< 1463445258 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463445713 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: tswett < 1463445905 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463445981 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1463446293 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463446649 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A TODO is like a check you write yourself for a million dollars. It'd be great if it went through one day, but they tend to just bounce until you lose hope and start writing Java < 1463447636 0 :Mike_!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463447660 0 :Mike_!?@? NICK :Guest60822 < 1463447674 0 :Guest60822!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, I had a few questions about the few questions about thue < 1463447739 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How meta. < 1463447936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just go ahead and ask, although I don't think resident Thue experts are present at the moment.) < 1463447964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawyerth? < 1463448319 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1463448319 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstring/strtok/ < 1463448325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an actual function in C < 1463448342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone thought this was a good way of implementing a string split < 1463448381 0 :Guest60822!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463448468 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's traditional. < 1463448490 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling strtok on a string literal is one of the constantly recurring ##c topics. < 1463448597 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runc #include \n int main(void) { strtok("foo bar", " "); } < 1463448607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/runc: line 3: 300 Segmentation fault $t < 1463448613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I worked on a program that used strtok to parse argv. < 1463448613 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463448637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty confusing to look at it in the process list. < 1463448679 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That rings a bell, probably seen it happen as well. < 1463448701 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick. < 1463448722 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463448734 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463448764 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463448790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :strtok ought to use self-modifying code. < 1463448832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instead of strtok_r, you should be required to copy the code of strtok into a new writable executable buffer. < 1463448846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can keep the same API. < 1463448979 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C99 rationale says strsep was rejected because "it's easy enough for a user to provide this functionality, and it is unclear that an implementor can do a substantially better job; so, there was not sufficient support for adding this feature." < 1463448991 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strsep also modifies the string, but at least it uses a strtok_r-style scheme for keeping the state in the caller.) < 1463449064 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, arguably even a more reasonable one, since it avoids that nonsense about passing NULL as the first argument.) < 1463449506 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463449741 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463449891 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450900 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450913 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is "polynomial time" named as such in computer science? < 1463450969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the time used is bounded by a polynomial in the input size. < 1463451027 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463451236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but why isn't it called "monomial time" < 1463451236 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and NP being when there is no final halting of the computations? < 1463451289 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish that when C11 hit they also added the POSIX-only thread safe versions of functions (such as strtok_r). < 1463451293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: no, the N in NP is for "nondeterministic" < 1463451321 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok. thank you < 1463451333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i which means it's bounded by a nondeterministic polynomial < 1463451340 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nooo, they only added something with the same functionality as strerror_r, only more painful to use. < 1463451344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1463451347 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strerror_s :() < 1463451444 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: strtok_s is in C11, right? < 1463451453 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, optionally. < 1463451479 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, they did add that too. < 1463451507 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still basically strtok_r only less convenient. < 1463451542 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, the *_s functions. Functions only implemented (in a non-conformant way) by a vendor that can't be bothered to implement C99, but managed to push features in C11 anyways. < 1463451578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, C99 is 9 times as hard to implement as C11. < 1463451620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463452366 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: NP is the class of decision problems which are solvable in an amount of time bounded by a polynomial in the input size, on a nondeterministic Turing machine -- which is like an ordinary Turing machine, except that you can have multiple transitions for the same initial condition, and the machine takes both paths simultaneously (which means that you can have an exponential blowup in the number of states that the machine/tap < 1463452366 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is presently in). < 1463452407 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically Turing machines with unbounded parallel forking < 1463452434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people take nondeterministic machines as a primitive? < 1463452461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't exactly have anything against them, but they seem like a bit of an odd and arbitrary construction. < 1463452517 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: thank you < 1463452558 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? np < 1463452578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463452628 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: At this point it's got to be mainly that there are interesting difficult problems to be solved. < 1463452652 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :P vs. NP is almost motivation enough :) < 1463452663 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nondet. machine seems to mean a machine with unlimited power of computation < 1463452682 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1463452696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should think of it as "always taking the right path" rather than "taking all paths". < 1463452700 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do the exactly same kind of computation, only the performance differs < 1463452724 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(exponentially) < 1463452741 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: step by step algorithms? < 1463452746 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463452758 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Another way to look at it is that NP is the class of decision problems for which a polynomial-length certificate can be constructed such that given that certificate, the solution to the problem can be checked in polynomial time. < 1463452770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1463452772 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: as "kind of computation" < 1463452798 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think I cannot understand what does it mean < 1463452966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: That's fine, but then people start asking about the "N". < 1463453703 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463453908 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: I'm not even angry now < 1463454006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463454189 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463454210 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463454820 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463456973 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463457065 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463457237 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463457336 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463457372 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463458452 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463459943 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463460179 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463462593 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463463123 0 :Cale_!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:6081:c285:93ff:a06c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463463207 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1463463260 0 :Cale_!?@? 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NICK :MDream < 1463468537 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f9b2:77bb:81be:3a44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463468623 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463469335 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ergxnuhsrzzlyhax QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463472070 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-meqgxiqllahrelcs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463473429 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463473642 0 :J_Arcane__!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463473702 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463473739 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463473742 0 :J_Arcane__!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1463477110 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463477199 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card nightmare < 1463477290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellgorger Barbarian \ 3R \ Creature -- Human Nightmare Barbarian \ 3/1 \ When Spellgorger Barbarian enters the battlefield, discard a card at random. \ When Spellgorger Barbarian leaves the battlefield, draw a card. \ JUD-C < 1463477291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Why do people take nondeterministic machines as a primitive?" => probably at the influence of Chomsky? or did it start before him? < 1463477409 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463477944 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 QUIT : < 1463480973 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463481069 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463482600 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463482646 0 :moon_!~Moon___@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463483336 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463483378 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463483468 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1463483477 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463484381 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463484655 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463485009 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you moon ranges? do you even have buttocks to moon ranges with? < 1463485009 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so this is the same. trolls think fashion is stupid. stop doing nothing but wondering what could it be the same but different too m4ny h1ghly just1f1abl3 4nd w3ll d3s3rv3d punch3s w1ll b3 thrown 1n du3 t1m3 < 1463485031 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't punch me. it's uncouth hth < 1463485031 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in a good way though you are not really sure that we will meet again! not even a gulli8le dope like you. < 1463485060 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eille. < 1463485060 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but that jackass won't shut up and stop the thief in the throes of an unraveling alibi. " the massacre of syrs gnelph was not as written a message you got, my brother, and we just keep the safe or tub handy or the other, to function as the better half. the two partners in a strong pale relationship will serve to balance and complement each other's, since there is no quadrant which naturally conceals two licorice scotty d < 1463485072 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles the fungot
< 1463485072 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds?. perhaps to leave that crap in the shitty scifi novels where his favorite movies. he would just go on and on about it. < 1463485403 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463485741 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486117 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463486365 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486808 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463486840 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486997 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463487097 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: *You* just go on and on about it. < 1463487097 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for a while it was frustrating. wasn't nothin but misfortune... < 1463487100 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1463487737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463487740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463487745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1463487802 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f9b2:77bb:81be:3a44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463487833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he chilline for one out of the apple mashed. \ Sprinkle the parsley and flour and set aside. Fry the chops to a \ boil, and simmer for about 30 minutes, or until the mixture is \ coated and all the beef dispalles are done. \ \ 2. In a large bowl mix beans, and salt in skillet over medium high heat, inchen and \ until soft comes out. Reduce t < 1463487840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463487846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463487857 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463487859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1463487869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chopped onions; chopped \ 1 ts Salt and pepper \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/3 c Water \ 3/4 c Confectioners shortening \ 2 tb Chopped fresh cilantro \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/4 ts Ground cumin \ 1/2 ts Dijon; softened \ \ Mix ingredients in a large cookie sheet, about 3 minutes. Sprinkle \ peaches and parsley. \ \ Per serving: 207 mg chol cooled, 15 grams < 1463487869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patriarch's Desire \ 3B \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature gets +2/-2. \ Threshold -- Enchanted creature gets an additional +2/-2 as long as seven or more cards are in your graveyard. \ OD-C < 1463487930 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LEG CHICKEN < 1463489747 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463490145 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463490599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491595 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491826 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491863 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463492396 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463493208 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463493212 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463493519 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1463493693 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463494525 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: int-e: Just to keep you up to date on current news, we've migratated the domain over, and it's been renewed for a year as well. < 1463494532 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463494609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1463494809 0 :carado-!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463494845 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463494875 0 :carado-!?@? NICK :carado < 1463495205 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463495265 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you have a system that keeps "data" alive by just re-transmitting it < 1463495270 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never storing the whole data < 1463495301 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like delay line memory? < 1463495309 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nodes in the internet, these nodes connect to other nodes. Everything a node receives, it just broadcasts it to the other nodes < 1463495337 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read like I don't know 4MB chunks of data or something like that < 1463495346 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then re-transmit it to other nodes < 1463495353 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not storing what you have transmitted so far. < 1463495402 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting how much data you can store on the "line" < 1463495412 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes some time for data to arrive at the other endpoint. < 1463495430 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably work with just two nodes < 1463495437 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you send data, the other one sends it back < 1463495461 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of data you can send before you receive the first byte back should be the amount of bytes you can store "in the interweb" < 1463495591 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you find what you're looking for? < 1463495622 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's another issue :D < 1463495639 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could tag streams somehow < 1463495641 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463495650 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the first few bytes are the id of the datastream < 1463495660 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just listen on the network until you find what you need then start logging the traffic < 1463495674 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can hardly delete anything. < 1463495735 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy < 1463495762 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go offline < 1463495801 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you broadcast to n-nodes each < 1463495806 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that won't do the trick :) < 1463495844 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't broadcast to more nodes < 1463495851 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1463495857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run out of space < 1463495874 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1463495940 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can tag streams you can prevent that you re-broadcast the same thing more than once at the same time < 1463495965 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're already broadcasting stream N, and some node connects to you and broadcasts stream N you can deny that request < 1463496018 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be cases where you receive more than you can broadcast < 1463496046 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should give congestion signals back to the nodes somehow < 1463496055 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing them to send less data < 1463496070 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way if all the protocols work correctly together there should be an equilibrium of some sort? < 1463496977 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497057 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like what you get when you're designing a normal distributed file system, but flip a minus sign for the "minimize bandwidth use" term in the cost function your design is trying to optimize. < 1463497264 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you could really make things work so smoothly that you'd have all the data in "the wire" without being ready to either buffer it at the nodes or lose it, because the "storage capacity" of the connection will clearly fluctuate a lot. < 1463497340 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1463497365 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically as soon as you have more data than you can send before receiving the first thing you've sent again you need to buffer it somewhere < 1463497374 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It all sounds vaguely familiar, but I seem to be finding only boring reasonable pages when looking up what I'm vaguely recalling. < 1463497404 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea as that some of the data is buffered by routers and network equipment of ISPs < 1463497411 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :On cloud storage and organizing cables on your desk and such. < 1463497435 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, once they notice what you're doing they'll pretty much cancel your subscription :D < 1463497468 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i'll probably write some 1h hackish software and experiment with that < 1463497500 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would hardly require more than a bit socket code to get a first prototype working < 1463497524 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and test computers < 1463497724 0 :spiette_!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497880 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463498160 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rouphsggylgpadso JOIN :#esoteric < 1463498292 0 :spiette_!?@? NICK :spiette < 1463498773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1463499274 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463499543 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463499898 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463500107 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463500666 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1463500954 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463501486 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463502625 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463502986 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:6081:c285:93ff:a06c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463503298 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503546 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503678 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1463503717 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503752 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463504252 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1463504446 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463505539 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463506476 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463506742 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463508662 0 :MartinS!~monstre@217.118.81.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463508758 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463508950 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1463508951 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1463508951 0 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1463509018 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463509266 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463509416 0 :MartinS!~monstre@217.118.81.25 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463510160 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463510452 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463512807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good time to set an alarm for a 9AM exam < 1463512815 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463512872 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 and every half hour between 7 and 9 < 1463512910 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't fully wake up until he's in a rage from 2 hours of alarms going off
< 1463512926 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long will it take you to get there < 1463512946 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to have breakfast < 1463512983 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, fifteen or twenty minutes, and I'd like ten minutes for breakfast < 1463513001 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go every fifteen minutes from 7 to 8:30 < 1463513006 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those were my criteria... with the answer to the latter question being no... I just aimed to be there 10 minutes before the exam starts) < 1463513025 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although knowing me I'm gonna be so worked up about it I'll wake up at five < 1463513173 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh I'd plan for taking a shower < 1463513202 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 7 exams in 7 days, I'm afraid hygiene is not my highest priority < 1463513250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's good for relaxation < 1463513255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a shower will also help you think better < 1463513595 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463514155 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463514393 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463514567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463514761 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463515449 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1463516136 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463516979 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463517539 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463517554 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463518290 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-098-064.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463519476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebraic Chess < 1463519570 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, "algebraic chess notation" is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463519864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463519873 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that sounds wise < 1463519880 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463519888 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algebraic chess notation < 1463519923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't < 1463519950 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn algebraic chess notation/ algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463519970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​αλτγρ+γ//αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1463519970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebraic chess notation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463519979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «algebraic chess notation» < 1463520023 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oerjan < 1463520035 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll feel compelled to remove the inital space and add a period at the end < 1463520081 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he'll ramble about how he's retired < 1463520085 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`algebraic chess notation < 1463520087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: algebraic: not found < 1463520092 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?algebraic chess notation < 1463520093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?algebraic: not found < 1463520097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :space < 1463520097 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algebraic chess notation < 1463520099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463520104 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiine < 1463520111 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn algebraic chess notation/algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess. < 1463520116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «algebraic chess notation» < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :548) I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1167) And neutrinos aren't small neutrons! They are small and neutral, though. So is Switzerland < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :696) fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :93) pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...] < 1463520227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :320) And if they wanted to go for "true" security, they'd just do "Warning: your computer has not been turned into a plasma. This may cause some of your personal data to be stolen. Click here to turn your computer into a ball of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace." < 1463520351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what if you just `sedlast s/.// < 1463520355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1463520358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1463520481 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that wouldn't have handled the leading space. though I guess I could have done two expressions? < 1463520495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it? < 1463520509 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your expression only fixes one of the two errors < 1463520681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't notice that part. < 1463520721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/.//;s/$/./ < 1463520730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1463520766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not confusing enough. < 1463520813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedlast s;.;;;s $ . < 1463520814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1463520850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ' blah blah' | sed 's; ;;;s $ . ' < 1463520854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah. < 1463521289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai < 1463521522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I didn't even know you could use space. < 1463522398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463522399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Space is not used; it's occupied. For example: "What's your occupation?" - "About 80 liters." ) < 1463522434 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463522806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463522961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463523412 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Happy Norway something-or-another day. < 1463523436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what day it is, but the SIXT car rental company emailed me an ad about it. < 1463523473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's constitution day, aka our national day. < 1463523487 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Norwegians get happier and we are celebrating our country's birthday on May 17th. The streets will be filled with people wearing their national dress." < 1463523492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 10% of all car rentals. < 1463523548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(celebrating the signing of the constitution in 1814. although i vaguely recall claims it's a day off.) < 1463523585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't dress up, national or otherwise, although i did eat a better dinner. < 1463523697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1463523707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: were there fireworks? < 1463523708 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1463524064 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :molum < 1463524156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, that's only a new year custom. < 1463524208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, there are two parades and heaps of marching brass bands. < 1463524214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1463524231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :molum: WHy do you change nicks all the time? < 1463524258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably speeches. not that i went. < 1463524271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Oslo there'll also be waving royals. < 1463524295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: molybdenum mines (at least the one I know of) produce as byproduct lots of white(ish) sand. < 1463524296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: happy Napoleon crowned Emperor, 1804 day < 1463524316 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463524324 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hmm? I don't, AFAIK < 1463524332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you changed it just now. < 1463524337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you also changed to hive and back. < 1463524344 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I change to a nick, and then back, in which case it's probably a joke in another channel < 1463524348 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hive being one such one < 1463524368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 10% of all car rentals happen today? < 1463524432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're a few months off hth < 1463524448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :off what < 1463524456 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just 10% of all car rentals. No particular verb. < 1463524461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napoleon's crowning anniversary. < 1463524470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was 2nd December. < 1463524510 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAelk5ZHdwZHlwWWM <- molybdenum mine byproduct sand pit. Or so I've been told. < 1463524514 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463524520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, perhaps < 1463524554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, happy Nauru constitution day hth < 1463524602 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, interesting < 1463524616 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks quite pretty < 1463524629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Happy U.S. Department of Energy declassifies documents showing world's largest mercury pollution event in Oak Ridge, Tennessee (ultimately found to be 4.2 million pounds) day. < 1463524630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the _actual_ king involved was danish prince Christian Frederik, who only kept the throne for about 5 months. that part didn't stick. < 1463524663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he inherited denmark later, though.) < 1463524668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's happy about that < 1463524675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess declassifying documents is good < 1463524683 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it wasn't 5.2 million pounds. < 1463524813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty close, though. < 1463524838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1463524856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, napoleon's emperor thing started on may 18 anyway < 1463524867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the thing we are celebrating was an attempt at norwegian independence (but keeping the same royal dynasty), which failed. and then somehow became the basis for gradually getting actual independence, 91 years later. < 1463524869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could there be a quaternionic 4D mandelbrot set? One which, of course, you can slice and browse? < 1463524885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it odd how some countries don't have independence day < 1463524919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have an independence day, but it's not very much celebrated. < 1463524935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may be an official flag day. < 1463524974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, 7th June < 1463524993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, you were using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17 < 1463524995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinking < 1463525023 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which independence day? the one when Széchenyi suicided, or the one after the first world war? < 1463525090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the one when we left Sweden behind. the one after the second world war is liberation day, which is May 8, and is at least somewhat celebrated. < 1463525133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway stayed neutral in WWI. < 1463525144 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1463525204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one after WW2 isn't called independence day because presumably no one considered the nazi government to have been legal in the first place. < 1463525221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, no one who counts.) < 1463525338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 4.2 million pounds is over 6 million USD < 1463525351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it was a lot more at the time < 1463525664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : he'll feel compelled to remove the inital space and add a period at the end <-- you forgot the capital tdnh < 1463525731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s.A < 1463525733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/sedlast: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/sedlast: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1463525744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/sedlast < 1463525748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i can't use it anymore < 1463525751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463525754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was a clever prank < 1463525811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedsecondtolast hth < 1463525828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i made that program, i'd need sedthirdtolast tdnh < 1463525894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s.A wisdom/'algebraic chess notation' < 1463525900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463526031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good show < 1463526111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1463526117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multibrot set with complex powers? < 1463526141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot? < 1463526186 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463526192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emac//emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1463526195 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MVS < 1463526197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? VMS < 1463526203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VMS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MVC < 1463526206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVC? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1463526213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym MCV hth < 1463526215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1463526227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: careful, you're supposed to be retired < 1463526248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mandelbrot with a number other than 2 (Z=Z^2+c) < 1463526273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's a sense in which they all look pretty much like the usual one, up close. < 1463526281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1463526302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the same reason that the usual mandelbrot contains many almost copies of itself. < 1463526303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Specifically, for multibrot n, it's like n-1 mandelbrot sets squished together < 1463526307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, they creep me out < 1463526318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: MCV = Mobile Construction Vehicle hth < 1463526338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 2 is like 1 mandelbrot set squished together < 1463526349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, correct < 1463526358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean, I guess < 1463526409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wikipedia even talks about things like multibrot 2.3 (where that analogy breaks down), but there is no mention of multibrot i or 2+i < 1463526416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 1, though... < 1463526447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's just a circle or something < 1463526455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait... < 1463526460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z = Z^0+c... < 1463526470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: part of the problem is that once you use non-integers, everything becomes multivalued. < 1463526480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, nothing is in multibrot 1 < 1463526484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, gets ugly branch cuts. < 1463526518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Because n^0 = 1, and 1+1+1+1+...+1+c diverges for all c < 1463526525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels clever
< 1463526534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um that's multibrot 0. < 1463526567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, multibrot 0 has power -1 by my completely stupid definition < 1463526571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1463526575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Multibrot n has power n-1 < 1463526579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a bebrot then? < 1463526594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But yes, it would be 0 if you use a good definition (where mandelbrot is multibrot 2) < 1463526611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mandel=2*multi) < 1463526614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hm then i'm not sure whether shachaf got that or not. < 1463526624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait < 1463526627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hypermandelbrot < 1463526630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: got what < 1463526656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, i disagree with your analysis. multibrot 1 gives 1+c each step. < 1463526657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know mandelbrot is multibrot 2 < 1463526669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no added terms. < 1463526670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 1 diverges everywhere except 0 < 1463526672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all works < 1463526675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right, shit < 1463526680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Knew I was doing something wrong < 1463526682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it's multibrot 1. < 1463526692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above. < 1463526696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463526707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is in hyperbrot n if Z = Z[n]2+c diverges < 1463526708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not consistent with what hppavilion[1] said, isn't it < 1463526715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:05 oerjan: Specifically, for multibrot n, it's like n-1 mandelbrot sets squished together < 1463526719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n't// < 1463526728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or s/not /in/ < 1463526733 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off by one < 1463526734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off by 1 < 1463526743 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463526744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: YOU ARE INCONSISTENT < 1463526747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by one? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by 1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I AM < 1463526756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BUT ONLY ON WEEKDAYS < 1463526782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels clever again, but is more tentative this time
< 1463526812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mandelbrot for the split-complexes or the duals? < 1463526828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multibrot_set just says "multibrot with d = " < 1463526836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing about subtract 1 from the exponent < 1463526845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I know < 1463526848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing < 1463526859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I used a shitty definition of multibrot n that had a needless subtraction < 1463526881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also the talk page of that wikipedia page has a picture with a complex exponent hth < 1463526881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because it was convenient where multibrot n is n frankensteined mandelbrot sets < 1463526887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yay < 1463526897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok but you changed your definition in mid-conversation without telling anyone about it < 1463526905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought I did < 1463526909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Whoops < 1463526922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mandelbröt < 1463526925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandelbröt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463527010 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463527030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But hyperbrot? < 1463527032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: alas, i don't think there's an ö, even in german. < 1463527072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? almond bread < 1463527075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almond bread? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463527181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn almond bread/Almond bread is a delicacy made from fractal dough. < 1463527186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «almond bread» < 1463527381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's mandelbrøt < 1463527398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Modern Gender Theory, or the 'Mandelbrot Sex', is..." < 1463527751 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463528271 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swedish bread is bröd, if that's indeed what you were talking about. < 1463528352 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to BLABAR (aka BLÅBÄR for diacritic-deficient people) the other day, a "Nordic concept store and cafe" hereabouts. < 1463528354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463528361 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have the typical Swedish incorrect cinnamon buns. < 1463528387 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blabar.london/ < 1463528504 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463528568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a Swedish incorrect cinnamon bun? < 1463528728 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The one that the majority thinks is correct, actually. < 1463528742 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://krausnickitchen.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/img_4711.jpg < 1463528755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a correct cinnamon bun? < 1463528785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish variant, which is rolled the other way around. < 1463528786 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fazershop.com/globalassets/inriver/resources/722c8801-0252-4c3b-9ee6-92bf0e552aca3.jpg < 1463528799 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I want a cinnamon bun of either kind. :/ < 1463528887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463529065 0 :molum!?@? NICK :ybden