< 1461456098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IAM what IAM < 1461456203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^echo Fill in this: Echo, ______, _____. <-- wait did he break ^echo < 1461456207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi < 1461456207 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1461456237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46813 5* 03IAM 5* (+129) 10Created page with "Hello there! I'm planning to make a programming language called "Character For You." I'll link to it once I make the page for it." < 1461456263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1461456263 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2 8ball rreree rerere botsnack bf < 1461456266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show echo < 1461456267 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] < 1461456274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^reverb hm < 1461456274 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhmm < 1461456382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def echo bf ,[.>,]<[<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[.>] < 1461456382 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1461456387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo test < 1461456387 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test test < 1461456578 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1461456602 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake/The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1461456647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, cake < 1461456947 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1461456970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( pho cake ) < 1461457051 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4456686320_df32d86479_o.jpg ? < 1461457076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they make comments like /* ... */ in C? Now it interferes with dividing by the value read by pointer (although you can easily work-around). C++ style does not have that problem. < 1461457388 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: C++ style also has a problem < 1461457433 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it interferes with trying to put a comment (a normal one like the prophets K&R intended, not one of the new style minus-minus or percent sign ones) after a division. < 1461457591 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, did they change the appearance of drones in Prismata? < 1461457593 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it has that, although you will usually want to add at least one space before the comment in such case, or to put whatever you want to divide by immediately afterward on the same line anyways < 1461457603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Since when? < 1461457612 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since whatever I'm used to < 1461457619 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are there skins or something? < 1461457629 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game I'm watching eems to have Canadian drones < 1461457631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can get your own drone appearance or something. < 1461457646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: We should jam. < 1461457655 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do this new tutorial thing < 1461457667 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a native client these days? I should grab it < 1461457678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all Flash. < 1461457691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it won't let me challenge you because you're in a game. < 1461457742 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, unless what I wanted to put in a comment was the real number I'm supposed to be dividing with, but I changed it to a different number for a quick debugging test. < 1461457806 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for the Windows client
< 1461457810 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm convinced it exists < 1461457815 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :earenndil < 1461457820 0 :earenndil!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1461457851 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes there is that case. < 1461457869 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case you can also work-around by putting the comment afterward instead of before. < 1461457878 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, much more interested in doing the tutorial campaign than being defeated by you for a millionth time < 1461457878 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.prismata.net/2016/03/10/catch-an-early-preview-of-the-prismata-desktop-build/ < 1461457923 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~canaima@181.17.65.167 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461457956 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FAQ has a link to the Windows client < 1461457962 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.prismata.net/2016/03/14/prismata-alpha-faq/ < 1461458352 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yostjyoscvbsepwr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1461458390 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eww it uses Adobe AIR < 1461458506 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google login is only available in the web version of Prismata < 1461458539 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1461458583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46814&oldid=46813 5* 03IAM 5* (-117) 10Replaced content with "Hello there!" < 1461458682 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I'm able to add a password to my account, and that lets me log in < 1461459241 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUHUHAHAHAHAH! I have ANNIHILATED the ants once and for all! < 1461459307 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461460490 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE\\OREN\! MWAH AH AH AH AH! < 1461461269 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461461336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461461386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great war, which we have waged with the formican menace since time immemorial, has finally been won! < 1461461482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461461670 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ant problems in your apartment/house/place of residence? < 1461461800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1461461863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UC1H (United Committee of 1337 H4x0r5, which is actually programmers with a facetious name) or something should get world governments to legally define "Free Software" < 1461461869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Open Source" < 1461461887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I just stumbled across this fucking bullshit: http://www.aptana.com/ < 1461461911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which looks good, but I was suspicious. So I did some digging and found this: http://www.aptana.com/legal/apl.html < 1461461931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr, it claims to be FOSS, but you aren't allowed to redistribute it < 1461461970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it's also under the GPL < 1461462011 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes so it is dual-licensed < 1461462012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I'm confused < 1461462019 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461462029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does that mean BOTH licenses apply or that one or the other applies, depending on what you choose? < 1461462042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aptana.com/legal.html is making things confusing < 1461462053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's called the "GPL-Aptana exception" < 1461462065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which implies that it's the GPL EXCEPT for their special exception < 1461462109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is that you can just GPL it if you like < 1461462116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fucking bullshitness revoked < 1461462165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a GPL Section 7 Exception, which means it is still GPL < 1461462209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I really want in a license is the ability to do whatever the hell I want with software, except for selling the code itself and passing it off as my own or changing the license to one that permits such a thing, or that permits switching to a license that permits such a thing, etc.. < 1461462264 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just to make software as public domain, do whatever you want < 1461462281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But that allows people to sell your code as if it was theirs, does it not < 1461462284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-? < 1461462320 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does < 1461462336 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people want to sell copies that is fine with me < 1461462336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, corollary, I want to be able to include the software as a portion of proprietary software if I so desire, as long as it does not form the primary bulk of the software. < 1461462341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: OK then. < 1461462435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, great. I settled on Aptana, and now it won't install because of some dependency regarding nodejs < 1461462440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I already have installed < 1461462460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst kind of dependency error is one that you already have fulfilled that the software doesn't check for < 1461462504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modal Logic Programming seems like a useful part of AI < 1461462511 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is the wrong version of Node.js? < 1461462513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite AI modal operator is "learn" < 1461462561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#learn fact ::- #need (#knows self (fact | ~fact)) < 1461462597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where need is from the "want-need fulfillment logic" and #knows is from epistemic logic. Also, the open world assumption is used. < 1461462632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it might be more like #learn fact ::- #need (#knows self fact | #knows self ~fact) < 1461462694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that makes hppavilion[1] happy: Trying a !bang that he has never used before or seen referenced with duck duck go and having it work immediately < 1461462697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, !sep < 1461462707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) < 1461463857 0 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1461463899 0 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Client Quit < 1461465177 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461465546 0 :fyp!~fyp@202.198.15.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461465802 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome fyp < 1461465846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04fyp: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1461466627 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know about condut0r? < 1461466627 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ihope is that guy that's *really* useless. still, i'm much faster at most things < 1461466722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( fungot-tswett death match ) < 1461466722 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was on the wrong trail. the actual global instruction requires three bytes, i believe, which i don't < 1461466873 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, why tswett? < 1461467138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ihope127 is his old nick < 1461467446 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1461467687 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1461467708 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In general, absorb is the strongest, most busted mechanic in the game, and you want to be taking advantage of it as often as possible." - Will Ma, Lunarch Studios Founder < 1461467757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absorb is pretty good. < 1461467775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But pure-green strategies can be effective too. < 1461467868 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you spend more resources on getting a unit that can absorb X than your opponent needs to spend to generate X damage per turn, then presumably you're worse off. < 1461467915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By resources I'm including time, of course. Time is the main resource, really. < 1461468024 0 :fyp!~fyp@202.198.15.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461468505 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461469105 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1461469860 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VIOLET CHICKEN < 1461471636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46815&oldid=46362 5* 03104.163.150.67 5* (+29) 10bf.vim < 1461472191 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461472329 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461472363 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461474022 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461474031 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The New Black {B} Instant ;; Target black spell or black permanent is now black. < 1461474099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If a spell or permanent is owned or controlled by someone whose last name is Black, does it count as black? < 1461474136 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The name of the players is irrelevant. < 1461474152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't it a Black permanent if it's owned by Black? < 1461474161 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As far as the game is concerned players have no names as far as I know.) < 1461474192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think players only have names starting with the letters A and N. < 1461474200 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think not; players can have no names, subtypes, etc < 1461474401 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A name is something only an object has, in Magic: the Gathering. < 1461474462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are players not objects? < 1461474479 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Players are not objects. < 1461474494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can attach an enchantment to a player. < 1461474495 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And therefore players don't belong in any zone. < 1461474508 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; permanents can be attached to players or objects. < 1461474514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Targets can be players, objects, or zones. < 1461474568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1461476159 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card "The New Black" that I described is nearly worthless, but does have some uses. < 1461476204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as to affect an object that temporarily changed color, or to affect a multicolor object. < 1461476247 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or with "heroic" abilities. < 1461476881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461477004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461477250 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461477517 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461477561 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461479432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1461479440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when we cross The Grid with an OS? < 1461479520 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What grid is that? < 1461479553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thegrid.io < 1461479786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... I wonder if I could hook a neural network together with a parser to make a smartparser? < 1461479865 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean to try to parse things that won't parse? < 1461479870 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1461479899 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to parse the output of the neural network? That might also not parse, so same problem either way. < 1461479925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you want to, if it doesn't parse, try the neural network until it does parse? < 1461479936 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean exactly. < 1461479951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, I mean making a parser with a neural network. You feed the network characters and it produces an AST... somehow... I guess? < 1461479973 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about neural networks, so I cannot answer that question. < 1461480010 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you can figure out how to make something out of that, then you can try! < 1461480010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't either < 1461480034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The basics are you give it data and it spits out more data (usually all data is floats/double/whatever) < 1461480061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And you can tell it that these inputs should spit out these outputs, and it will adjust itself accordingly < 1461480185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try something, possibly < 1461481156 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461481431 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461482130 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1461482226 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461482504 0 :andrew_!~andrew@58.251.146.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461482583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1461483036 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1461485034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's a basic feedforward neural network < 1461485042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes < 1461485052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I was explaining the basics based on what I know < 1461485177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my neural networks course I used convolutional and recurrent neural networks < 1461485804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461485835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461485844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1461485860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: So what do you think about merging the principles of The Grid with an OS? < 1461486666 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461487573 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24df:35ee:2301:2ac9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461488354 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461488613 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461490557 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1461490989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/int-e/box256/master/universal/loc_0x08 ... note the double purpose "mov" :) < 1461491155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461491741 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1461491749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dual purpose... < 1461492039 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461492303 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461492304 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: it's a bit sad that linear shift registers (modulo 256) would have a too low period with fewer than 255 bytes... < 1461492354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, make that 2041 bytes. < 1461493140 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461493201 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461498325 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461498533 0 :MDream!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461498539 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDream < 1461499372 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is sound irrelevant in Doom? (looking at http://vizdoom.cs.put.edu.pl/competition-cig-2016) < 1461499454 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's fair, of course, because no player gets to listen... but it's still a question that nags me) < 1461500493 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-87-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461500611 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46816&oldid=46814 5* 0399.236.51.46 5* (+39) 10 < 1461500722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46820&oldid=46816 5* 03IAM 5* (+138) 10 < 1461500829 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461500857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46821&oldid=46820 5* 03IAM 5* (+13) 10Well, that wasn’t correct wiki markup! < 1461500937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46822&oldid=46821 5* 03IAM 5* (+33) 10Why is there two programming languages called Gibberish? < 1461500986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46823&oldid=46822 5* 03IAM 5* (+0) 10Put them in the wrong order. < 1461501305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46824&oldid=46823 5* 03IAM 5* (+59) 10Added note about my username. < 1461501345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46825&oldid=46824 5* 03IAM 5* (+13) 10Clarified who wrote the Gibberish code. < 1461501508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46826&oldid=46825 5* 03IAM 5* (+173) 10I’m planning to design a language! < 1461502267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainFunge214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46827&oldid=31850 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-7) 10formatting < 1461502305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainFunge214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46828&oldid=46827 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+17) 10more formatting < 1461502337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainFunge214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46829&oldid=46828 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-11) 10*facepalm* < 1461502386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainFunge214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46830&oldid=46829 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+17) 10*double facepalm* < 1461502534 0 :andrew_!~andrew@58.251.146.253 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461502849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quine (programming language)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46831 5* 03IAM 5* (+169) 10Well, this is a silly language. < 1461502936 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461503033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46832&oldid=46796 5* 03IAM 5* (+88) 10Well, it's easy to write a quine in this language! < 1461503193 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461503280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quine (programming language)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46833&oldid=46831 5* 03IAM 5* (+116) 10Somebody did basically the same thing already. < 1461503639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07XS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46834&oldid=16506 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ < 1461503671 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:IAM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46835&oldid=46826 5* 03IAM 5* (+70) 10 < 1461504410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Vriskanon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46836&oldid=42220 5* 03IAM 5* (+106) 10/* jeo */ new section < 1461504429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Vriskanon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46837&oldid=46836 5* 03IAM 5* (+69) 10/* jeo */ < 1461506753 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461507267 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461507981 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1461507981 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 241300Z 36007KT 350V050 30SM SKC 02/M13 A3019 RMK SLP227 < 1461509741 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461509805 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody treats Type 7 as specified in the RFC anymore... except ELinks, in that it won't accept blank lines. Cue "Input Blank Line (workaround for elinks type 7 support)" < 1461509907 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. what is type 7? < 1461509970 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :type '7' or "search engine query", but Gopher's only other options for interactivity are terminal sessions and basic "do something on get" links, so it's more or less the Gopher version of a form submission. < 1461509979 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461510076 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher is fun! < 1461510117 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you visited gopher://zzo38computer.org/ yet? < 1461510126 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. And linked to it. < 1461510126 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1461510126 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 241300Z 13005KT 090V160 15SM FEW110 BKN140 07/M08 A3016 RMK AC1AC6 AC TR SLP221 < 1461510131 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hezzo38. your server died? content was lost? :( < 1461510148 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. you have no right being warmer than me! < 1461510172 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you have your own page on the gopherspace? neat! < 1461510510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, great, and apparently elinks does caching, too < 1461510520 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher has links? < 1461510534 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, elinks caches everything, regardless if it should < 1461510543 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you often have to reload < 1461510556 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: which means that "perform action on get" will not work < 1461510570 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it will, if you press control-R after it < 1461510588 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, normally you should write servers so you perform actions on POST < 1461510598 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: gopher doesn't have post < 1461510611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It has search engine queries but you need to enter something in for those < 1461510626 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm literally going to have a link that says this: < 1461510636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Input Blank Line (Enter any text, it will be ignored)" < 1461510658 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then enter "a" < 1461510671 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but it's still awful < 1461510722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it awful? IRC insists on entering four parameters on USER too, and the first one has to be alphanumeric (or something like that), and two of them are ignored. I just enter USER a a a a or USER x x x x usually < 1461510777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but clients obscure that < 1461510800 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this, it's a user-facing useless text field < 1461510819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well, my solution for gopher is to use HTTP < 1461510820 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.1+deb1 - http://znc.in < 1461510841 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so your solution for gopher is not to use gopher? < 1461510844 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1461510849 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also my solution for FTP < 1461510868 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your solution for ? < 1461510952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, brilliant. It caches duplicate searches. < 1461510969 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, and duplicate HTTP posts too < 1461510974 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461510979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to press control-R < 1461510995 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ELinks: It's More Efficient This Way" < 1461511033 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it caches WHAT? that's insane! < 1461511052 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a POST changes state on the server. you can't cache that! AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1461511072 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. I'm going to be busy adding a whole new subsystem on my gopher server just to work around elinks < 1461511100 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, your solution for FTP is to not use gopher? < 1461511145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...boily: Actually, nvm, if it's caching EVERYTHING it'll cache the executive job list < 1461511158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...boily: which means users using elinks will never be able to use the thing in the first place < 1461511191 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they try to create an instance, they'll never see the console page... < 1461511209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in other news, ELinks is stupid < 1461511215 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the sky is still blue < 1461511219 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461511226 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, it's gr(e/a)y < 1461511304 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sky is graaay ♪ < 1461511323 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome jefrite < 1461511359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13jefrite: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1461511437 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461511796 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RENTAL CHICKEN < 1461512297 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461512520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You mean there are other networks than freenode? Impossible! < 1461513015 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1461513553 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, there's like a dozen others < 1461513930 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qfvokfqdmyhbmsyk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1461514003 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gszsnsicqeriruse JOIN :#esoteric < 1461514185 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I have a plan for bypassing the elinks cache. Sort of. If you press "back" you go back into cache-land... < 1461514198 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I'm going to stick a number on the end of links. < 1461514223 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely worthless number, but the elinks cache won't ignore it. < 1461514547 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461514879 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1461515221 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was some way of identifying ELinks in particular... < 1461515683 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-87-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1461515712 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461516193 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461516416 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461516614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how did I miss that recent x86 got INTERCAL support instructions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_Manipulation_Instruction_Sets#Parallel_bit_deposit_and_extract < 1461516644 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1461516707 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would the speed of bit manipulation need improving? < 1461516768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1461516788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby/Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1461516837 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well the parallel bit extraction (INTERCAL: "select") is notoriously difficult to perform... so is the interleave operation which can be performed by two parallel deposits... < 1461516983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what precise usecases they envisioned... S-boxes in cryptography? verious search algorithms? bitfield extraction? < 1461517005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bitfield manipulation is actually quite a strong usecase for those operations) < 1461517022 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461517281 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461517607 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461517684 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461518146 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461518388 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461518753 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461519267 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does GCC have builtins for these yet? < 1461519335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes < 1461519339 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we discussed the INTERCAL-suitability of pdep/pext on-channel once. < 1461519390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in gcc, you get builtins for basically every useful non-privilaged cpu operation, unless you're using an old gcc, or unless you're on ARM and you're using gcc before gcc 5 < 1461519439 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, gcc's inline assembly is powerful that it can serve as a worse fallback in case you don't yet have a builtin < 1461519693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-11.txt:07:24:45: Fiora: I'm sure pdep and pext will be well-received by the thousands (if not millions) INTERCAL implementers, for implementing SELECT and MINGLE. < 1461519860 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1461519887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was before my return to this channel. < 1461519935 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (brb, completely revamping my half-working 6502 emulator) < 1461519959 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I would if I wasn't working on my font right now < 1461520062 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once knew an oren who worked on a font to revamp the half-working 6502 emulator to build the Commodore 64 to operate the solenoids to close the trap to catch the fly... < 1461520110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you support decimal mode and set the carry flag correctly when it's enabled? < 1461520166 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's what I was using bit oprtaitons for, yes. It doesn't really work because the code is too complex to debug < 1461520204 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because my emulator tries to work on a clock-cycle-correct level < 1461520209 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what other cool processor extensions could I have missed, hmm < 1461520246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: great < 1461520267 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen the transactional memory ones... too many SSE versions... < 1461520307 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you support the crazy nondeterministic undocumented opcode whose behaviour depends on how exactly the memory chip works? < 1461520311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: my font started as a font for a game I never finished, and then I made a ttf version so I could use it in a terminal, and then I realized I wanted IPA and dwarf fortess support < 1461520330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...when's the TeX version coming? < 1461520385 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I can probably export the font to metafont... < 1461520394 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm joking...) < 1461520428 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK." < 1461520432 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, you missed the BrFu x86 extension, whose sole purpose is to find matched parenthesis in string buffers bordered by 0 bytes on either side. < 1461520434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha, we got that leaflet after all. < 1461520446 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though they're not going to let us vote.) < 1461520499 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There's also the Mobius extension, which treats interleaved bytes as two contiguous spaces of memory... < 1461520535 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hopefully it's clear I'm telling lies. < 1461520787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Given this channel's devotion to factual accuracy, I was completely mislead by your claims. < 1461520817 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I need to get a time machine. Then I can go back to the first day of April. < 1461520826 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1461520837 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1461520842 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom wisdom < 1461520860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nothing happens* < 1461520893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to restore the vm image from deep storage.. probably some sort of tape library < 1461520896 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that takes time < 1461520922 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my theory, at least. < 1461520929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1461520930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1461520931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1461520943 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1461520945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1461520949 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1461520952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1461520965 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1461520967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitive/Infinitives are atomic verbs. They were first split in the 1940s, and the world hasn't looked back since. < 1461520973 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1461520975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1461520977 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461520989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? purr < 1461520990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :purr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461520996 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo zU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ < 1461520998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ < 1461521008 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1461521009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious < 1461521021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is zU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ < 1461521025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is zU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ < 1461521028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? it's not < 1461521034 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now < 1461521064 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461521099 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidociouszU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ (There. Compromise.) < 1461521102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidociouszU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ (There. Compromise.) < 1461521110 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1461522036 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461522049 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/ø* < 1461522054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ø \ wisdom/øl \ wisdom/ørjan < 1461522066 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/ø* < 1461522068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. \ Øl, øl og mere øl. \ Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1461522303 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461522980 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Quit: earendel < 1461524031 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461524123 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461524245 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1461524346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461524867 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1461525154 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461525224 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the PDEP/PEXT it is the things I have wanted to be able to use < 1461525266 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to detect which of these features my computer supports? < 1461525618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: at low level, the intel and amd manuals tell which bits in which cpuinfo words you have to examine. on a higher level, you can use the gcc builtins, or /proc/cpuinfo as a convenience interface, or the library http://www.agner.org/optimize/#asmlib < 1461525619 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are CPUID bits. Linux would expose them in /proc/cpuinfo -- I would think PDEP and PEXT correspond to the "bmi2" flag. < 1461525685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in a real program, you'd call the actual cpuinfo instruction (but only once per program and cache the info, it's an expensive instruction), whether directly or through the msvc wrapper or a library, or the higher-level gcc builtin that already does the caching and tests for a single named feature. < 1461525752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: on x86_32 if you want to support old cpus, you first have to test if the cpuinfo instruction itself is supported, for which there's another instruction sequence. on x86_64 you can skip that. < 1461525778 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have to do #if or #ifdef to check if it is available and to write my own implementation if not, so that it can work on non-x86 computers < 1461525814 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, in the case of some operations there are already higher level libraries wrapping some of this stuff < 1461525897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are three reasons why (at low level) you have to do a cpuinfo instruction to test for (almost any) cpu feature, rather than just try the feature and see if it works: (1) for compatibility with a virtualized cpu with live migration, in which case the set of features that actually work can change and be larger than the ones actually supported to work always, < 1461525973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) because some features require OS support to handle saving the registers at task switch correctly (although these days cpus just have those features off by default and let the OS enable it), and (3) because some features aren't deterministically testable. < 1461526002 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see bmi2 on my computer < 1461526004 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to ship binary packages would by my number 1... < 1461526056 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461526099 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fairly new, Intel added it in Haswell processors; AMD caught up last year with the Bulldozer architecture... < 1461526110 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes PDEP/PEXT would be useful to compute Morton numbering, as mentioned above. < 1461526145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh my work laptop actually has them... < 1461526208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They would also allow INTERCAL programs to run faster, also as mentioned above. < 1461526339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a (unused) specification that you can write attributes before a declaration like ["something"(a,b,1)] or whatever that if the compiler understands it can do stuff such as replace the function if the CPU instruction set already has that function or to optimize code surrounding a call to that function or whatever, so you can avoid needing #ifdef and CPUID and so on to check if it supports it. < 1461526481 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a *sane*, better option than having a function pointer to an architecture-dependent implementation of a function to make such tricks portable (within x86_64, say)? < 1461526509 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the insane ideas range from patching call addresses to actual runtime code generation) < 1461526514 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461526555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, half-way inbetween, abusing the dynamic linker for this job. < 1461526572 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own idea was that the compiler will do all of that stuff for you. < 1461526614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I didn't define the problem: Have a single binary that will run and use a processor feature if present, but also run and not use it if the feature is absent. < 1461526673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, the compiler should do it for you, and I might think code patching might do? < 1461526700 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I specified such thing as ["implements"("bitselect",x,y)] unsigned int bitselect(unsigned int x,unsigned int y); < 1461526913 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh funky. the documentation has an example using something called an "ifunc resolver" http://sprunge.us/AcbG ... an ELF feature. < 1461526917 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be fun. < 1461526937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instruction sets I have designed in past already included what is called PDEP and PEXT in x86, although I used different names for them. < 1461527133 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461527688 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1461527847 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like this instructions: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Muxcomp < 1461527927 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea for a company: sell Brainfuck As A Service solutions. < 1461528154 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm already providing a free offering, but only accessible via Gopher. Mwuhahaha.) < 1461528161 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1461528749 0 :deepblu!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1461529031 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: gtg < 1461529235 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461529251 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? darknet < 1461529254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darknet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461529270 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? anarchy < 1461529273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarchy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461529277 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gopher < 1461529279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first. < 1461529281 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1461529283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1461529289 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461529290 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The darknet is a world-encompassing network of underground gopher services. < 1461529293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'darknet': The darknet is a world-encompassing network of underground gopher services. < 1461529320 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Underground gopher services? So Brainfuck-as-a-service is considered "underground" now? < 1461529328 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(slight redundancy there... where would a gopher be if not underground) < 1461529347 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe on top of the ground?) < 1461529350 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, it's a play on the animal meaning of the word < 1461529414 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The darknet is a world-encompassing network of underground gopher services. Said services are paid for in plant roots and earthworms. < 1461529418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'darknet': The darknet is a world-encompassing network of underground gopher services. Said services are paid for in plant roots and earthworms. < 1461529491 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. It'll either confuse the hell out of people with the first sentence, or if they understand the first, confuse the hell out of people with the second sentence. They'll either understand one or the other, but probably not both... < 1461529495 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461529550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: You've now confused me with your claims of confusion... to me the two sentences seem consistent. < 1461529565 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Mwuhahaha! My meta-plan worked! < 1461529608 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking that they'd interpret it as Gopher (protocol) and wonder why people would pay in plant roots and earthworms, or interpret it as Gopher (animal) and wonder how animals provide services. < 1461530043 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Doublethink is the ability of holding the right belief. (If you think that you disagree with this definition, think again.) < 1461530048 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'doublethink': Doublethink is the ability of holding the right belief. (If you think that you disagree with this definition, think again.) < 1461530069 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461530148 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my system for uploading files to Gopher servers might be a bit messed up. < 1461530172 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it burrow? < 1461530195 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, there's a search-engine endpoint on the server which accepts a Brainfuck program. < 1461530212 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wrote a Lua script which takes a file, removes newlines/etc. (everything that isn't needed), < 1461530224 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepends "executive/createBf" and a tab, < 1461530230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and postpends a CRLF. < 1461530238 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pipe to netcat... < 1461530242 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...file on server. < 1461530283 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory. < 1461530284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh... "Someone just tried to sign in to your Google Account from an app that doesn't meet modern security standards." < 1461530415 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think I should support compressed base64 code upload... < 1461530525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First of all, I didn't "sign in"... I sent an e-mail from my usual mail client... secondly, could you please be more specific what you mean by not meeting modern security standards?) < 1461530534 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll shut up about it :/ < 1461530703 0 :deepblu!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461531241 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Google Account, it has all of those problems and much more < 1461531280 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: non-encryoted < 1461531290 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*p < 1461531315 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: nope, using STARTTLS. I checked. < 1461531339 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en isn't helpful either. < 1461531414 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not perfect, since the server certificate isn't actually checked, so MITM is possible... but I don't see how Google could detect that.) < 1461531421 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1461531465 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well it's helpful insofar as it points me to the option of disabling the feature. but it doesn't tell me anything about what those "enhanced security standards" are exactly. < 1461531467 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypting the message itself would be better anyways I think; only the intended recipient would be able to read it. < 1461531468 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1461531494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTTLS and so on should not be needed. < 1461531508 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm... < 1461531514 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's solving a different problem. < 1461531544 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is for submission, and secured (password) authentication with a mail server. < 1461531563 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461531814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461532165 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's the password of the day? < 1461532165 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: in tail context i mean.) < 1461532185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah, in tail context < 1461532185 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i was thinking: depending on the jury) for each of these components will be usable in isolation. < 1461532691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What happens when we combine the technology behind fungot with a programming language? < 1461532691 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that helps hmm. i wonder what the default compiler policy is, if programmers can fork without some kind of front-end instruction decoder. < 1461532714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, make a language that is nothing more than a series of words < 1461532725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some words can read or write further words < 1461532808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1461532825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does fungot's response in any way depend on what you say to fnem? < 1461532826 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: alists then. this is what i happen to wish at given times, perhaps? < 1461532834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fnerm < 1461532848 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? {-} Conspiracy ;; Hidden agenda ;; When ~ is faced up, you may pay {1(2/U)(2/U)}. If you do, or if target spell's name is the chosen name, counter that spell. < 1461532877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nested programming language? < 1461532886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, matrioshka is already a thing < 1461532898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFINITE matrioshka language? < 1461532958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or self-referential matrioshka language? < 1461532969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fun, now I've botched the headers of that email... stupid. But I'll blame Google for it :-P < 1461532972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea of ASG is stil intriguing < 1461532997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ASG = Abstract Syntax Graph, as opposed to AST = Abstract Syntax Tree) < 1461533015 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an interpreter can interpret an interpreter that can run the first interpreter, then you can stack infinitely. < 1461533029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes, but if you use compilers it can be done in finite space < 1461533050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: AKA Bootstrapping < 1461533061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Have you seen The Grid yet? < 1461533065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thegrid.io) < 1461533067 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1461533093 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha. very funny. < 1461533103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: What's very funny? < 1461533113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I made no jokes < 1461533152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Unless you mean that the basic idea of The Grid is absurd, which is true /for now/ < 1461533158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they got some neural network or something to choose one of some templates. < 1461533164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Not quite < 1461533207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It actually designs the site in some capacity; it doesn't make the basic layout AFAICT, but it's more than just a neural network choosing a shell and sticking stuff in it < 1461533219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It actually does things like crop images via face recognition and such < 1461533352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's obviously not on par with a web designer in terms of outputspace, but it's good enough for most applications. Luckily, it's not going to catch on any time soon. < 1461533356 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically... fill in text, maybe try and work out which images go where, crop images using some external module... < 1461533374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's made by an ex-Google employee (head of department, IIRC) < 1461533385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AdSense head?) < 1461533416 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riight. < 1461533441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry if I seem cynical, but really, it's easy to imitate most web designers anyway - < 1461533450 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the time it's just vertical layout, toolbar at the top, < 1461533466 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct CSS, and some of those "scroll and stuff happens" animations. < 1461533486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly that's a lot more difficult to actually set up, but if it's a matter of the design? < 1461533539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Well yeah < 1461533558 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thegrid.io and ethereum.org: Here's what they have in common. < 1461533564 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a set of "pages". < 1461533576 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actually pages, but "pages": you scroll and it's divided into sections. < 1461533592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But, y'know, for most people a generic website that doesn't look generic to them (because they aren't web designers) is enough < 1461533629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: To their customers, it isn't a matter of whether it's groundbreaking art; they just don't want it to suck < 1461533686 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it works, it works. Not saying otherwise. I'm just noting that, given the structure, it's not covering much new ground. It is a novel application, though. < 1461533716 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many magnetic tapes can you write in parallel? < 1461533716 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: then of course the committee changes its mind again.... fnord < 1461533739 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah, damned committees. they've denied my request for hardware extension too. < 1461533740 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: slatex? what is the definition of scheme's syntax ( well, !aux) parameters and set!s. python-docutils rest, ie basically the parens and still get the whole thing < 1461533774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1461533783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like I need to restart my computer to get DOcker working < 1461533911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It appears that that's 363395873720940750532734673602455723122168259061554666207396343789667696668977026601159705068345305749588980027357341259349766026061334997034300004 magnetic tapes, expressed in base 256 < 1461533948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x7468656e206f6620636f757273652074686520636f6d6d6974746565206368616e67657320697473206d696e6420616761696e2e2e2e2e20666e6f7264 for hexnerds < 1461533995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: OH MY GOD < 1461533995 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: as for dependencies... i wonder whether i should watch some demos tomorrow. fnord in hacking pain!!! < 1461534006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: SCHEMEY TeX IS A THING!? < 1461534006 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: java is made of iron, and sits next to kirby superstar as the exceptions to my platformer rule < 1461534018 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: So, if it's 363etc... in base 256... then where's the NULs? The 0-9 chars? < 1461534033 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction: the a-z chars? < 1461534045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's base256 as ASCII < 1461534060 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461534076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I didn't use a weird order; I just used ord(c) < 1461534104 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :decimal is base 10 < 1461534108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes < 1461534114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so the above is decimal. < 1461534120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes < 1461534127 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1461534145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why on earth does this have "2e2e2e2e": 0x7468656e206f6620636f757273652074686520636f6d6d6974746565206368616e67657320697473206d696e6420616761696e2e2e2e2e20666e6f7264 < 1461534146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: our great fungey master said "then of course the committee changes its mind again.... fnord" < 1461534149 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461534165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: And I treated that sentence as being a number expressed in base 256 < 1461534171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: And I translated it to base 10 < 1461534174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. < 1461534178 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it makes sense. < 1461534184 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, wait, could we do that to any data? < 1461534189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes < 1461534201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Any fixed-size charset can be treated as a number < 1461534214 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like if I were to express, say, the entirety of as a base-256 number... < 1461534218 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate to base 10... < 1461534227 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and print into a book... < 1461534232 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc <<<16i7468656E206F6620636F757273652074686520636F6D6D6974746565206368616E67657320697473206D696E6420616761696E2E2E2E2E20666E6F7264P < 1461534233 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone be able to stop me? < 1461534267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then of course the committee changes its mind again.... fnord < 1461534285 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well, it would be a very big book < 1461534288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: For example, ascii-godel of gamemanj = 7449355541041737322 < 1461534298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: All the better for crushing people with. < 1461534318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: They could stop you in that you are distributing the necessary data to reconstruct a movie without paying for it < 1461534334 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but it's just one big number. < 1461534339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Even if you weren't actually distributing it, and no matter how impractical it is < 1461534344 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it would also be a copyright infringement. < 1461534345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act < 1461534354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: One big copyright infringement < 1461534376 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: actually this kind of idea is old... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime < 1461534400 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so, what length of number is considered "copyrighted"? How far does this nonsense go? < 1461534406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: You can also encode the number as an image, or as text, or as anything < 1461534412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Well, it's complicated < 1461534418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: The number itself isn't copyrighted < 1461534427 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if a 2048-bit prime just happens to match a small bit of copyrighted Brainfuck, < 1461534444 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then does that prime just become unusable? < 1461534457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Not necessarily < 1461534461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: In the general case, no < 1461534473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But if you distribute the number with the purpose/information that it represents that BF, then it's a violation < 1461534482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's weird and complicated and pretty stupid < 1461534560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It gets more complicated if you don't provide information on /how/ to decode it < 1461534565 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said anything about distributing the massive book with purpose? < 1461534586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: For example, this IRC message can be decoded into a .tar.gz of all the copyrighted data in existence < 1461534607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But I won't tell you what algorithm to decode it with, so am I really violating anything? < 1461534621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Actually copyright is kind of nice in that you cannot accidently violate it. If you pick a random number, and that represents the entire works of Rowling, that is not a copyright infringement. You'll have a lot of trouble proving that you picked that number at random though. < 1461534657 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you didn't, but derived it from Rowling's work... well then that is a copyright infringement.) < 1461534696 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basically, copyright law also keeps in mind how you arrived at the data, and chances are pretty good that in practice nobody will believe it a coincidence. < 1461534725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 88006156602275967014932877753568725 can represent the entire works of rowling if you decode it properly, and I generated it knowing full well that that's the case. < 1461534742 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a program that prints a normal real number is allowed... while the output does, in principle, contain all copyrighted works, you need about as much information to encode where to find the works in that output as you need to represent the work itself in a mor straightforward way. < 1461534776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 101001000100001000001... < 1461534790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Does that contain all copyrighted works under a normal decoding algorithm? < 1461534799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, put a "0." at the beginning) < 1461534837 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It -- abstractly speaking -- contains them, but it isn't derived from them. So it's fine. < 1461534847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: God this is weird xD < 1461534872 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Pi has an infinite number of digits... < 1461534883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: HOW DARE YOU MENTION THAT ILLEGAL NUMBER < 1461534886 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then, thus, it contains an infinite number of copyrighted works. < 1461534892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Not really < 1461534900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: There are a finite number of copyrighted works < 1461534903 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461534903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: So... < 1461534915 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It includes all copyrighted works that will be, too. < 1461534924 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but they all appear infinitely often, assuming pi is a normal number (which we do not know) < 1461534925 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it approaches infinite over time. < 1461534957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should make a universe where pi=3.184452094630565 < 1461534963 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, just because you own a haystack that doesn't make you an owner of a needle. < 1461534970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Humans will only be around for a finite time < 1461535013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: And unless copyright law (and physics) changes so you can own a non-finite number of discrete works (discrete means "not variants on each other), then it will still be finite < 1461535026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)/")/ < 1461535117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(318.4452094630565 points to anyone who decodes 3.184452094630565) < 1461535145 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: No. There's a Perl script that can take fungot binary model files and use them as the initial context (essentially, do a "continue from this prefix" thing), but the befunge code can't do it. (It doesn't load the model in memory, and the files are very much not designed for going text -> token indices, just the other way around). < 1461535146 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so you've met a few phil. majors who are arrogant and ignorant. big deal < 1461535175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah < 1461535203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW that was coherent < 1461535223 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a verbatim quote. < 1461535239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait, fungot does that? < 1461535239 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: will add together the contents of varname for the shell that uses your ffi to cause it to be accessible to high school students < 1461535266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You are now pi% less impressive < 1461535266 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just out of the stack. right now i am going to provide a choice of either never letting the public have it right here on my issue. thanks anyway :) this'll be fun... < 1461535317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AARGH I HATE ORBITAL MANEUVERING < 1461535373 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "deliberately", but of course it can, since (almost by definition) any sentence existing in the training data is a high-likelihood one. < 1461535376 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1461535387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, true < 1461535470 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thrust backward to go into a lower orbit, and therefore move forward relative to your previous orbit < 1461535487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAA < 1461535542 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also one "bug"/misfeature that can make verbatim quotes more likely than they should be -- a consequence from using variable-length n-grams and ignoring the backoff weights.) < 1461535626 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461535744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, if the model is saying that for the context "foo bar", the next word is 20% baz, 20% quux and 60% "something else, do backoff to using just 'bar' as the context", fungot will instead treat it as 50% baz or 50% quux as the only possibilities.) < 1461535744 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: regarding string comparison: http://www.ffconsultancy.com/ free/ fnord is a recursive acronym < 1461535857 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, this is helpful, and plausible. "There may be an update, it is being hotly debated. as the "modern security standard" Google are trying to force feed everyone is a web standard not a mail standard. To work properly the application must act as a browser. [...] The truth is there is not a mail client on the planet other than Google web apps in a browser or on a mobile device that meet their... < 1461535863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...standard." < 1461535911 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1461536823 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461536860 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@76.164.234.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461536987 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://support.google.com/a/answer/6260879?hl=en "Applications that rely on plain username/password authentication to access an account programmatically are considered less secure than those using modern day security standards such as OAuth 2.0." < 1461537257 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use oauth out of laziness < 1461537291 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :laziness? < 1461537368 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too lazy to register, if I register I immediately forget the password < 1461537387 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1461537399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I keep authenticated websites to a minimum, and I don't want them linked. < 1461537474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it seems that none of this would've happened if I had be more active on haskell-cafe... < 1461537486 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/had be/had been/ < 1461537515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...there was a grace period of 90 days when they made this switch. < 1461537624 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@76.164.234.12 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461537676 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461537911 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461537947 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461538173 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461538217 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461538317 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461538370 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461538812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1461539435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1461539435 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 242150Z 13004KT 9999 FEW016 BKN050 M01/M02 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 14006KT < 1461539440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brrr < 1461539603 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461539667 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1461539667 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 242150Z AUTO 06004KT 040V100 9999 -SN FEW012 BKN016 02/00 Q1011 < 1461539690 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not warm either < 1461539701 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1461539701 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 242150Z AUTO 28006KT 9999 NCD 07/04 Q1019 NOSIG < 1461539727 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was snowing/sleeting when we left from Finland. < 1461539730 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1461539730 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 242150Z 09012KT 060V130 6000 RASN FEW006 SCT008 BKN012 05/04 Q0999 NOSIG < 1461539745 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :RASN probably means exactly that. < 1461539762 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainy snow? < 1461539797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka sleet. < 1461540210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION joins 12-step program anonymous to help his addiction to getting addicted to things then joining Anonymous to rid themself of that addiction
< 1461540222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also joins Meta Anonymous
< 1461540237 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? meta < 1461540267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta is about < 1461540356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I just read about what a 12-step program is and now I'm sad. < 1461540358 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is in really bad shape. < 1461540374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly because you can be forced into a 12-step program < 1461540388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 12-step programs have very religious bases < 1461540406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is great. < 1461540412 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah the christian evangelism is sickening. < 1461540412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1461540424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/doublethink//wisdom/doublethink: no such file in rev 1a4d19eed5e1 < 1461540465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? doublethink < 1461540467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doublethink is the ability of holding the right belief. (If you think that you disagree with this definition, think again.) < 1461540492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits $(lastfiles) < 1461540501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1461540512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's not strictly Christian, but it's still forced religion < 1461540534 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1461540541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Also, it advocates recognizing that you can't control that you're addicted; only some magical man in the sky can < 1461540714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, it's not /my/ fault that I spent all of our money on vodka" < 1461540729 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, maybe not exactly christian. Though the origin certainly is... < 1461540833 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461540853 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the worst idea to start with. Loss of control is one of the defining features of an addiction. But there's no need to bring a greater power into it. < 1461540865 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1461540953 0 :deepblu!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1461540981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah < 1461541282 0 :deepblu!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461541342 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461541376 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1461541379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :choily < 1461541379 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24df:35ee:2301:2ac9 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1461541384 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you showed up exactly when i did < 1461541419 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am in starbucks, next to the guy who has an entire widescreen imac set up for the second day in a row < 1461541433 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's always someone tutoring someone in math in here < 1461541453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is that good or bad ) < 1461541504 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you decide what the implications are of someone (like me) spending way too much time in starbucks < 1461541542 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1461541545 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :choily? < 1461541549 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1461541566 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fungot are you in a starbucks of all places? < 1461541567 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: which state that there must be 4 strings you can access files on that other host. 15 mb space, no ads, for sure, that's easy < 1461541573 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a coffee hipster snob
< 1461541576 0 :deepblu!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1461541581 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome deepblu < 1461541584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02deepblu: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1461541610 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I prefer no strings attaches for hosting without ads. < 1461541611 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: umm.... no? objects have some tags so returned value of the current administration has had so much practice. < 1461541693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, string attaché < 1461541714 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. I also prefer detached strings :P < 1461541726 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know almost everyone behind the bar here. bunch of really cool folks. (also it is the only coffee shop out here in the burbs) < 1461541808 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are you doing here? < 1461541838 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here? < 1461541969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i thought i should pass to the next logical step after ahoily and bhoily hth < 1461542007 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: makes sense tdh < 1461542008 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn zhoily is the last step ) < 1461542024 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's exactly what they want you to believe. fnord. < 1461542037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: deepblu is earendel (is it a bot?) < 1461542056 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to be more clear why did you happen to get on irc at that exact moment and not before? < 1461542066 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -----### boily
< 1461542106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fword < 1461542110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fword? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461542128 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a bot.. i'd like to introduce it to you like in a few hours..you may like it or drop it. but im not entirely done. cool? < 1461542141 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, I got home from mahjong club. mahjong tends to disturb my anti-quintopian-schedule. < 1461542163 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel PRIVMSG #esoteric :can make it until then. it < 1461542178 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earendel: hearendello. it's a bot, therefore it's welcome. unless it antagonises fungot. < 1461542179 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no idea. what's the intention for it? just businessmen? < 1461542196 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot, deepblu. deepblu, fungot. < 1461542196 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: call-external-value ist undefined atm, i'm just being foolish... should be fnord right?) takes at least five minutes < 1461542201 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you win < 1461542221 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel PRIVMSG #esoteric :must just patch some huge gaps you would try to attack first .. you would ..by right :) < 1461542230 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I had a few good hands, but I was a tad too experimental with others ^^ < 1461542256 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we, attack bot weaknesses? who do you thing we are? < 1461542261 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1461542278 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you any good at tichu? < 1461542306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all bots are welcome as long as they're not too annoying < 1461542313 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I taught him once < 1461542332 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tichu is a pretty fantastic game < 1461542334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do you live nearby? < 1461542337 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no < 1461542347 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just randomly visited? < 1461542358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although being esolang-related helps) < 1461542373 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1461542391 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does earendel do any esolangery?