< 1461283581 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461283691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461283704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an solang for mad scientific computing yet? < 1461283707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Esolang < 1461283972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, no google results for mad scientific computing in the first place < 1461284032 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mad scientists are being persecuted < 1461284046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1461284054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust no one, keep your death ray handy < 1461284107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :madthematica < 1461284118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or madple < 1461284154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps those < 1461284164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :steer away from madlab, it's crap < 1461284170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But I think it needs to be an esolang to qualify as a mad scientific computing language < 1461284188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What about Octavaporizer? < 1461284205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the former message, the "mad" biassociates with both "scientific" and "language") < 1461284217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think we both failed to find a suitable pun for that one hth < 1461284222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah. < 1461284225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Agreed. < 1461284247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's weird how normal scientific computing yields itself so easily to mad science puns. < 1461284267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MadPL < 1461284290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like APL, but more Zalgo < 1461284294 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1461284315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra dimensions leaking everywhere < 1461284337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, probably < 1461284429 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461284498 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461284834 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1461284853 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1461284891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1461284914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1461284918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 👨❤️👨 < 1461284923 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F468 MAN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 a8 UTF-16BE: d83ddc68 Decimal: 👨 \ 👨 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+2764 HEAVY BLACK HEART \ UTF-8: e2 9d a4 UTF-16BE: 2764 Decimal: ❤ \ ❤ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16 \ UTF-8: ef b8 8f UTF-16BE: < 1461284925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1461284926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1461284932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^^^ < 1461284991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ❤️👨 < 1461284993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2764 HEAVY BLACK HEART \ UTF-8: e2 9d a4 UTF-16BE: 2764 Decimal: ❤ \ ❤ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16 \ UTF-8: ef b8 8f UTF-16BE: fe0f Decimal: ️ \ ️ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ \ U+1F468 MAN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 a8 UTF-16BE: < 1461285022 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461285030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ❤👨 < 1461285038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2764 HEAVY BLACK HEART \ UTF-8: e2 9d a4 UTF-16BE: 2764 Decimal: ❤ \ ❤ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F468 MAN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 a8 UTF-16BE: d83ddc68 Decimal: 👨 \ 👨 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1461285924 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461286333 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Zoroaster < 1461286340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Zoroaster: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1461286393 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sorry, it's just a backup name. I might've pinged out and auto-logged in with this < 1461286413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen it before < 1461286414 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who might you be usually? < 1461286425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1461286455 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I think my phone is the culprit < 1461286466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recognizes the username but cannot remember the nick < 1461286483 0 :Kaynato!uid109926@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-friiwxwiqyblcsuq QUIT : < 1461286487 0 :Zoroaster!?@? NICK :Kaynato < 1461286489 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1461286500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was you < 1461287289 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Kaynato < 1461287294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Kaynato: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1461287300 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1461287677 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461288154 0 :mad!~madbrain@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461288543 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/blaeg wisdom/blæg < 1461288548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1461289172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blæg < 1461289202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blaeg is a color that cannot exist under the current understanding of physics. It is used on the #esoteric flag, along with ultraviolet and whatever is convenient. It is a nullary color, meaning that it can be mixed with itself to produce the primary colors. < 1461289645 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461289952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, blaeg is spelled like that. Well, technically, it has letters in it that make you go insane from looking at them, which I left out, but... < 1461289974 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1461289992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❤ is now my favoritely-named Unicode character < 1461290128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMHO, blackboard bold should be its own font < 1461290355 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: more genders, more or less? < 1461290444 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461290614 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ DING ♪ PDF update! < 1461290627 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with ~5% less overfull hboxen! < 1461290871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But I like my hboxen to be overflow... < 1461290880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it gives a certain kick to the flavor < 1461290959 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that a study found that overflowing hboxen are the leading cause of lines suffering from Acute Page Cropping Syndrome? < 1461291109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Five Boxing Wizards Jumped Quickly < 1461291125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: LIES. SHOW ME YOUR CITATIONS. < 1461291161 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461291233 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE NO PROOF I HAVE NO CITATIONS LA LA LA LA LA LA LA! < 1461291271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is stupid! < 1461291579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461291869 0 :adu!~ajr@118.sub-70-192-204.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461293303 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blög < 1461293321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blög? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461293329 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo took a while to respond there < 1461293369 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FrelloFull! that was abnormally fast for HackEgo. < 1461293423 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461293461 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CRICKET CHICKEN < 1461293487 0 :adu!~ajr@118.sub-70-192-204.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: adu < 1461294247 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461296497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1461296880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461296948 0 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1461297056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given only the generators repeat(x), chain(x...), and cycle(listOfValues), and some other generator that you pretty much need to have that I didn't think of, construct something that isn't boring. < 1461297101 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's chain do? < 1461297835 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461298956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2227 < 1461298965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: It concatenates the sequences, bascially < 1461299223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461299727 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1461300001 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461300821 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Ellbereth < 1461300841 0 :Ellbereth!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1461302439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :attack of the girl genius poster interruption < 1461302830 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461302926 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-225.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1461302949 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-225.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461303411 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yostjyoscvbsepwr JOIN :#esoteric < 1461303760 0 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-225.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461303829 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-225.rentec.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461305732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1461307191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461307356 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461308271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461308602 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1461309039 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461309139 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rlhkvsjtnpqypqfm JOIN :#esoteric < 1461309204 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1461309561 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461311807 0 :mad!~madbrain@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1461313190 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461313444 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461315336 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:bce2:7861:fc:c2fd JOIN :#esoteric < 1461317524 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461318596 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461320428 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461320615 0 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461320673 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461322985 0 :fizzie!?@? NICK :dr_fizzie < 1461323013 0 :elephanter!~elephante@crona.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1461323785 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@84.51.143.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461324942 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461326156 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1461326156 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 221026Z 13008KT 10SM -RA FEW008 BKN012 OVC050 12/11 A2982 RMK SF1SF5SC2 SLP101 < 1461326652 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1461326653 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 221050Z VRB02KT 9999 -SHRA FEW010 SCT025CB BKN050 04/01 Q1003 NOSIG < 1461326677 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds more than -SHRA from where I am. < 1461326730 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr_fizziello. you're a doctor now? < 1461326957 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of yesterday, but I only got the email today. < 1461326973 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And won't get the fancy-looking papers until June. < 1461327104 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus our university doesn't have the traditional sword, unlike the neighbours. :/ < 1461327157 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! :D < 1461327168 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctor in mathematics? < 1461327291 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a "D.Sc. (Tech)", from the Department of Signal Processing and Acoustics, but it's really just more speech recognition stuff. < 1461327396 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very math-light, really. < 1461327742 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. < 1461327777 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SPORTIVE CHICKEN < 1461328441 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1461328477 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1461328644 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461328938 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1461329345 0 :elephanter!~elephante@crona.ru PART #esoteric : < 1461329795 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461331089 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-46.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461332205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Recommended by doctors! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Kaliningrad (not Königsberg) < 1461332269 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(congrats fizzie) < 1461332281 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461332523 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1461332625 0 :adu!~ajr@118.sub-70-192-204.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1461332649 0 :adu!~ajr@118.sub-70-192-204.myvzw.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1461332865 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461333142 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations, dr_fizzie < 1461333152 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait 5 or so years for me to catch up, please < 1461334252 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@84.51.143.223 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1461334920 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1461334931 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461335099 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1461335442 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461336035 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461337895 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461338307 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1461338428 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461338927 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461339010 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461339969 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461340479 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461340669 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461340783 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461341019 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461341044 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461341145 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, but what exactly should I not do while waiting? < 1461341152 0 :dr_fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And thanks.) < 1461341852 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main thing to not do is make fun of me for not having a doctorate < 1461341860 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's my medium term plan) < 1461342634 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461345407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1034 < 1461345448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1034: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1461346003 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks < 1461346122 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461346360 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461346803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`idontknowlist < 1461346805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: idontknowlist: not found < 1461347647 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion about my farbfeld utilities? < 1461348393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of your farbfeld utilities. < 1461348543 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A webpage is available at http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/ < 1461348562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also direct download by http://zzo38computer.org/prog/farbfeld.zip < 1461348639 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461348834 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461349095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's some pretty fancy JavaScript UI. < 1461349128 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461349151 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461349158 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I put some of the JavaScript codes in because it was impossible to edit the HTML directly < 1461349167 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461349203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still works fine without JavaScript, although some of the accesskeys are not available, and the diagram for branches is not available. < 1461350742 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461351248 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use Do-Not-Track with Apache? < 1461351322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461351409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Recommended by pi out of 5 doctors! | The international hub of esoteric programming | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Kaliningrad (not Königsberg) < 1461351808 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461352505 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461352554 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461354161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1461354774 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461355301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461355479 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461355750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461355878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461356440 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1461356503 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1461356507 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bull < 1461356514 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test < 1461356575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461356593 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more characters there are in a film, the less you value each character < 1461356605 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, the more of anything there is in anything, the less you value each thing < 1461356635 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice there's no exact test that defines bias. But at least people can try to avoid bias, surely? < 1461356667 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is, with any specific test, it's too easy to write to the letter but not the spirit. < 1461356668 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with bias? a film is a film - if it's only about men then it's not hurting anyone < 1461356742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is fine whatever they want to make the movie about, although you shouldn't make all of them the same thing! < 1461356748 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's about males fighting or competing for a female, then it's actually discriminating against the males. < 1461356779 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if a lot of different people make movies, then there will be a lot of different movies and therefore will be less problem. < 1461356804 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory stands that males are valued less due to their more common appearance, like inflation in economics < 1461356823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461356835 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nature - males compete for female attention < 1461356842 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like as if they have to prove something < 1461356861 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sickens me to the very core < 1461356907 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :most villains are male, male villains get less sympathy than female ones, male heroes are more common, promoting the idea that males are stronger than females, even though that's not necessarily true < 1461356968 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :males in general get less sympathy < 1461356980 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys still there? < 1461357010 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a complete mess. < 1461357015 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general. On both sides. < 1461357035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best solution is to stay away from those kinds of arguments. < 1461357052 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, in some films, females are portrayed as rewards or trophies, but that only glorifies them < 1461357093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care, but I would hope that many different people can many many different kind of movie; you should not make them all same way otherwise it isn't worth as much < 1461357123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: what if you found another channel for this < 1461357135 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, do you have any suggestions? < 1461357154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that i'm not in < 1461357176 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're only in one channel < 1461357785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees three channels that shachaf is in < 1461357815 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that ist is incomplete) < 1461357827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ist < 1461357841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461357846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An ist is an incomplete list. < 1461357858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ist': An ist is an incomplete list. < 1461357886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dol um ber ist < 1461358020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So people on the streets of our beautiful city usually just throw their cigarette butts and other trash on the street, even if there's a trashcan very close to them. I wonder if they just believe a pure garbage collection approach is more efficient in the end than the pure reference counting approach I prefer, in which I keep track of which items I need for what and if I no longer need one I throw it to the trash immediately. < 1461358070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: create_object 1 ; create_object 2 ; link_object 1 2 ; link_object 2 1 < 1461358139 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, I do sometimes have objects that get stuck forever in a referenced state despite that I never use them < 1461358169 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461358204 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure reference counting is fine given immutable objects. < 1461358251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yeah, but the objects are not immutable: some objects in my fridge go rotten without me touching them, so I don't notice that they're no longer useful until too late. < 1461358470 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For mutable objects, it's still possible to use refcounts, as long as a circular reference never occurs. < 1461358663 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: perhaps by the time the city becomes uninhabitable, people will have moved on to the next one... < 1461358681 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's how I picture a copying garbage collector in this analogy. < 1461358722 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461358741 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest, I'd prefer a system which is managed enough to keep track of references, but asks the program to GC them. < 1461358757 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what would Baker's treadmill look like? < 1461358891 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A city, continuously reshaping, restructuring... < 1461358935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Area being created where there was none before, areas being thrown about, swapped, restructured, yet the participants act as this is normal... < 1461358942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would that be called? < 1461358954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( A city. ) < 1461358990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Hey, words go into these? ) < 1461359001 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not throw your cigarettes end on the floor the cockroaches will have cancer < 1461359043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, good news! I don't smoke. And I intend to keep things that way. < 1461359068 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not smoke and do not want to smoke < 1461359182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461359185 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, I'm sure there's much more productive ways of giving cockroaches cancer. < 1461359844 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oregano < 1461359846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregano? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1461359868 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it's supposed to be a thought bubble... I use it for shaky ideas that I wouldn't know how to defend properly but still find cute enough to share < 1461359889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, a copying garbage collector worked well for me: when I moved to this apartment, there were a lot of items that I just didn't bring here. < 1461360075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1461360450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that metallic n = (n+sqrt (n^2+4))/2, find the n such that metallic n = pi < 1461360577 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1461360985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2*sinh(log(atan(1))+log(4)) < 1461361916 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1461362284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461362316 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1461362779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1461362844 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@84.51.143.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461362882 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@84.51.143.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, does anyone know why the logs on codu are down? :-/ < 1461362952 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@84.51.143.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for any BOX-256 fans (int-e / phantom_hoover?) I've written a Forth interpreter! http://corewar.co.uk/box256/pandora.htm :-) < 1461363198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I don't know why, but I know that the tunes logs are up. < 1461364362 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:bce2:7861:fc:c2fd QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1461364392 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1461364859 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1461366220 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/marcan/347faf7fa09802016d0c253699132539 < 1461366317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1461366743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1461367111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: hmm, are the two @3C in U< correct? IIUC, they should be @34 < 1461367423 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1461367629 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461367863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1461368056 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-46.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1461368481 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1461368557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1461368558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be forming an idea as to how to make an artificial intelligence < 1461368569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on modal logic programming < 1461368856 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might also want to invent a time machine that goes to the early 60s < 1461368869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's the AI's job < 1461368903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You combine Alethic Logic (necessary/possible), Deontic Logic (may/should), Temporal logic (time), and a logic I'm making called Want-Need Fulfillment (it's right there in the name), as well as limited forms of Epistemic (knowledge) and (maybe) Doxastic Logic (belief) < 1461368943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has a concept of actor possession (A owns i) and action (A performs a) < 1461369017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you realize Phantom_Hoover was being sarcastic? (also, i was trying hard not to make a similar comment, but dropped it because i wasn't sure exactly _which_ previous decade of ai failure you were reinventing.) < 1461369025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1461369043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Probably the 60s. < 1461369078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It includes machine learning features (induction results in beliefs under the Doxastic logic) < 1461369079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm contradicting myself < 1461369087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disappears in a puff of logic < 1461369171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The idea is more for a management AI than for a sentient AI, at least for now < 1461369227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the 60s would have loved an AI with an a priori possession concept for fighting the communists < 1461369240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I thought of that xD < 1461369241 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1461369256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not about possession so much as about "has" < 1461369264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "Bob has food" < 1461369295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: make it the 50s and you can include a priori race theory hth < 1461369296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also "Donald Trump has a shitton of money" < 1461369304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sure, why not < 1461369350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "limits" on the Doxastic and Epistemic logics are that the only actor that it can analyze the knowledge/beliefs of is itself, at least in certain applications < 1461369357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because otherwise things probably wouldn't go well < 1461369394 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The purpose of this is it's more about making a thing that you put in control of resource distribution than it is about making a thing that is alive < 1461369421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, I'm pretty sure we still had race theory in the 60s in 'murica < 1461369435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for some of it. < 1461369494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think MLKj was the 60s, and he didn't magically fix everything immediately, so... < 1461369570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course people didn't all change at once. < 1461369583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's when the laws were changed.