00:00:00 ➩➪ 00:00:03 `u8tbl 0x31f0 0x31ff 00:00:03 ㇰㇱㇲㇳㇴㇵㇶㇷㇸㇹㇺㇻㇼㇽㇾㇿ 00:00:07 there 00:00:50 i still don't get why you read all the backlogs <-- ALSO TRADITION (sometimes i give up though) 00:01:20 <\oren\> `u8tbl 0x2395 00:01:21 back in these days with more bots than active users? 00:01:23 /hackenv/bin/u8tbl: line 1: 293 Segmentation fault u8tbl.exe $@ 00:01:29 <\oren\> `u8tbl 0x2395 0x2395 00:01:30 ⎕ 00:01:31 -!- lynn_ has joined. 00:02:00 oerjan: how much time do you spend with that? 00:02:33 shachaf: it might get canceled out by the `olist hth 00:03:32 -!- lynn_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:03:35 myname: DON'T ASK 00:03:45 i already did 00:04:15 -!- lynn_ has joined. 00:04:39 -!- lynn has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:05:07 if it's long i generally multitask while doing it, so it's hard to measure. 00:06:28 -!- lynn_ has changed nick to lynn. 00:07:51 <\oren\> speaking of which, how do i make orenwatson.be redirect to www.orenwatson.be? <-- i'm pretty sure there are people championing the opposite convention hth 00:08:33 <\oren\> well right now neither one reditrects, they jsut both go to the same ip 00:08:54 right, which is a bit awkward because you get parallel urls 00:09:11 (same if you have both http and https) 00:13:55 <\oren\> I don't see why browsers don't cache based on ip instead of domain name 00:15:18 -!- glitchmatick has joined. 00:15:33 -!- lynn has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:16:14 What do IPs have to do with anything? 00:17:08 -!- lynn has joined. 00:18:30 <\oren\> shachaf: well my server has an ip 00:18:50 \oren\: there are a lot of webhosts providing several entirely different websites from one ip 00:19:26 presumably as domain names are much less scarce than ipv4 00:19:32 oerjan: actually doing that is apparently now mandatory 00:19:43 i.e. if you run two websites from one physical server, they both have to be from the same IP 00:19:57 ais523: huh? 00:19:58 in an attempt to reduce IPv4s being exhausted for stupid reasons 00:20:02 (this doesn't apply to IPv6) 00:20:04 aha 00:20:09 oerjan: you don't get the IP being allocated otherwise 00:24:31 * oerjan notes that www.google.no and www.google.se are the same ip, although www.google.com is different. 00:25:00 <\oren\> 52.2.213.98 is the ip of my server 00:25:49 \oren\: the point is, anyway, that the ip is not enough to tell whether two urls with only hostname different give the same result 00:25:52 <\oren\> so theoretically, the browser could note that both www.orenwatson.be and orenwatson.be are 52.2.213.98:80 00:26:00 err, I should say same virtual serer 00:26:02 *server 00:26:04 rather than physical 00:26:24 \oren\: yes but they might have different content 00:26:47 the recommendation from http://no-www.org is to have the www. version redirect to the non-www. version 00:26:48 <\oren\> hmm, then should I redirect www to plain or vice versa? 00:26:50 although they are obviously biased 00:29:10 i recall there's an opposing site but i think that one is mainly a joke 00:29:32 the competing site is http://www.yes-www.org/ 00:29:37 …I should have guessed that 00:31:45 "I’ve even seen a few pathological cases where, given a URL, they will type www.google.com or another search engine into the address bar, and then type the URL they actually want to go to into Google’s search field!" 00:32:13 which is axtually quite common 00:32:21 i guess it's not a joke after all 00:33:02 well, most people put it into the google startpage 00:34:05 I've heard reports of people entering "google" into Google's search field, then searching their actual query from the resulting page 00:40:09 <\oren\> the first lady of the united states is not allowed to be hot! <-- oh so _that_ is the real reason why they killed jfk! 00:41:11 -!- p34k has quit. 00:42:42 hmm, when I see <\oren\> posted like that, it looks a bit like an HTML tag 00:43:01 let's not get into another of those comment tag closing threads though 00:43:09 from an alternative universe, perhaps 00:43:56 * oerjan doesn't have < before nicks in irssi, anyway. 00:45:45 suddenly my logreading slips away to a tatham puzzle 00:46:27 (currently being "Range") 00:47:16 i am puzzling that new one a lot 00:47:25 palisade 00:47:32 it's fairly easy, though 00:47:38 yeah 00:48:23 i actually enjoy that zombie/vampire/ghost one 00:48:26 i tend to cycle alphabetically, so that was a short while ago. 00:48:30 myname: me too! 00:49:25 <\oren\> since www.orenwatson.be is long, I'm going to use the no-www convention 00:52:53 -!- idris-bot has quit (Quit: Terminated). 00:53:12 -!- idris-bot has joined. 00:56:58 does anybody know the game "quattropoli"? (at least that's the name i know it under) 00:57:48 myname: I haven't heard of it. What's it like? 00:58:30 ypu have a 4x4 game board and 16 different cards 00:58:51 each card has 4 properties: outer form, inner form, outer color, inner color 00:59:13 with form being circle or square and color.being black and white 00:59:46 what you have to achieve is make a row of 4 cards which share at least one property 00:59:52 but there's a catch 01:00:03 you always choose the card your opponent has to play 01:01:53 does each player play to their own board? 01:02:00 no 01:02:13 there is one shared board and one shared set of 16 cards 01:02:15 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:02:17 so shared board, and you're aiming to be the first to complete a line 01:02:23 yes 01:02:23 Do diagonal lines count? 01:02:27 yes 01:02:27 but one person chooses which card is played, the other chooses where 01:02:34 exactly 01:02:48 16**16 = 2**64 01:02:56 this game seems brute-forceable to me when pruned properly 01:03:08 certainly 01:03:09 Quick, someone teach it to a neural net. 01:03:34 i just liked the twist of not being able to choose what to play 01:03:48 the youthful me liked it a lot 01:04:42 (it may be useful to know that without the twist there's an easy non-losing strategy for the second player) 01:05:45 destroy any row that can be dangerous? 01:06:36 none of the standard second-player exploits obviously work 01:06:43 so this must be a new or unusual one 01:07:06 Win if you can; otherwise mirror your opponent's move. 01:07:20 oh, I see 01:07:28 that's a clever variant on the normal mirroring situation 01:07:52 <\oren\> there should be a list of characters that look lik there was an error 01:11:21 <\oren\> 〿⎕〾〼◌□ 01:12:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:13:18 <\oren\> 〾 in particular looks like something has gone horribly wrong 01:14:10 <\oren\> it looks like a character lookup error that isn't the normal one 01:17:46 <\oren\> Oh no the reactor 〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾〾 01:21:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:26:07 `unidecode 〾 01:26:22 [U+303E IDEOGRAPHIC VARIATION INDICATOR] 01:26:53 tswett: Do you know anything about low-level GUI programming? 01:27:04 Tiny bits. 01:27:48 tswett: I'm trying to make my own. 01:27:58 I know some things of GUI programming with Xlib and with VB6 01:28:12 hppavilion[1]: using what sort of library or whatever? 01:28:21 tswett: Any standard libraries necessary 01:28:28 zzo38: Oh, right, you made Xlib bindings for JS 01:29:00 tswett: My own GUI library that is; got phrased wrong 01:29:11 Is SDL still current? 01:29:21 tswett: SDL? 01:29:35 That library for doing graphics and audio and so forth. 01:29:53 tswett: Ah. 01:33:01 tswett: yes but it's inefficient :-( 01:33:02 -!- lynn_ has joined. 01:33:09 -!- lynn has quit (Disconnected by services). 01:33:11 -!- lynn_ has changed nick to lynn. 01:52:01 * oerjan concludes that the 2nd player non-losing depends on there being an even number of cells in the shortest direction 01:52:54 hm wait 01:53:40 maybe both must be 01:54:36 oerjan: are you talking about the game of life hth 01:54:39 you need a mirroring that fixes no odd-length line 01:54:53 shachaf: no, myname's game 01:56:23 hm things get a bit fishy when not quadratic. 01:56:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:57:12 (what's a diagonal) 01:58:22 or rather, int-e's simplification 01:59:28 hm with odd size, does the first player have an easy win by starting in the center 01:59:50 and from then doing a mirroring of the second player 02:00:21 *non-loss 02:02:49 mirroring around the center, that is, not a line 02:03:36 * oerjan thinks so 02:06:34 how do you mirror selecting if each card is unique? 02:12:22 liie, i start by selecting black outer square black inner square 02:12:35 you put it somewhere and want to mirror that 02:12:41 how do you do it? 02:13:11 black outer square white inner square? black outer squeare black inner circle? 02:15:11 -!- Guest96610 has joined. 02:15:16 o/ 02:16:02 I found your channel in an old log of IRC 02:16:22 It's about esotic language, right ? 02:16:24 -!- glitchmatick has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:16:29 Is there somebody? :) 02:16:29 <\oren\> yup 02:16:30 also, there are 16! possible boards, being around 2.1 * 10^14 02:16:58 <\oren\> we also discuss esoteric board games, and fonts, etc... 02:17:07 and mtg 02:17:10 I'm looking for an specific esoteric language 02:17:17 using POINTING TRIANGLE 02:17:29 using 😀 02:18:05 is there any way you point me on some direction with theses informations? ^^ 02:19:21 I may have a code (I guess it's code), I would need to know what does this code do 02:19:22 define pointing triangle. like, the symbol? 02:19:26 Yep 02:19:27 🐇 🐼 🍇 🐇🐖 🏁 ➡️ 🚂 🍇 🍮 s 0 🍮 i 0 🔁 ◀️ i 3427 🍇 🍊 ▶️ i 3418 🍇 🍳 s 🍉 🍓 🍇 🍫 s 🍉 🍫 i 🍉 😀 🔷🔡🚂 s 10 🍮 a 0 🍮 i 0 🔁 ◀️ i 1239 🍇🍊 ▶️ i 1229 🍇🍳 a🍉🍓 🍇🍫 a🍉🍫 i🍉😀 🔷🔡🚂 a 10🍎 0🍉🍉 02:20:04 doesn't look like any code i know 02:20:05 <\oren\> hmm there are various emoji language 02:20:14 yeah 02:20:23 damnit 02:20:32 but they either are fare more lisp like or less wordy 02:21:50 hmm.. do you know where I can find what I'm looking for? I tried an esolang list, didn't recognize anything 02:23:17 <\oren\> is it heartforth? 02:24:48 I'm gonna check 02:25:31 how do you mirror selecting if each card is unique? <-- curses, foiled again 02:27:08 <\oren\> https://github.com/nasser/Emojinal 02:27:15 <\oren\> it could also be this 02:27:37 <\oren\> which does appear to use those emoji 02:27:39 I'll check it too then ! :D 02:27:45 (thank you :) ) 02:28:31 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:29:31 myname: actually, choosing the card with all properties opposite might work for the even case 02:30:07 for the odd there'll be trouble choosing the initial center 02:30:58 so, white outer circle white inner circle 02:31:33 myname: oh and this was all assuming without choosing your opponent's cards. 02:32:18 having odd numbers would imply a property having more than 2 ways 02:32:43 in which case there is no direct opposite 02:33:43 well i was assuming nothing about what cards would be with other board sizes 02:34:46 maybe you can manage something with a more complicated permutation of cards 02:35:25 -!- glitchmatick has joined. 02:38:29 i need to talk somebody into writing an app for that 02:56:57 -!- me2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:57:38 -!- me2 has joined. 02:57:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:03:44 -!- bender| has joined. 03:09:31 -!- Guest96610 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:24:39 is there a word that means "not on fire"? 03:28:06 Extinguished can mean "previously but not currently on fire". 03:28:56 Though it can also mean twarted, or dead. Snuffed carries the same meaning. 03:31:10 hmm, yes 03:31:12 thanks 03:34:06 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:34:20 -!- ent0nces has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:35:52 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:36:30 -!- ent0nces has quit (Client Quit). 03:37:41 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:38:42 -!- ent0nces has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:39:12 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:39:36 -!- XorSwap has joined. 03:43:03 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:43:35 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:46:17 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:47:00 -!- ent0nces has joined. 03:50:35 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:51:41 -!- ent0nces has joined. 04:03:55 bender|: Hi 04:18:54 hello 04:19:00 (sorry, was away) 04:28:29 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:29:25 -!- ent0nces has joined. 04:34:11 -!- XorSwap has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:36:04 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:37:22 -!- ent0nces has joined. 04:38:59 -!- ent0nces has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:39:50 -!- ent0nces has joined. 04:40:24 bender|: I'm writing a C-like language compiler targeting "TargetFuck" 04:40:29 *"TargetBF" 04:42:58 lol 04:43:15 I remember seeing a C->BF compiler 04:54:21 -!- glitchmatick has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:59:10 bender|: I know 04:59:46 -!- ent0nces has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:05:25 -!- lynn has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:15:12 <\oren\> the king of jordan says turkey is behind isis 05:17:12 has the old guy turned senile now 05:17:20 wait, he's not that old is he 05:17:55 <\oren\> well yeah that was my first reaction it sounds like something my crazy greatuncle would say 05:18:16 <\oren\> (sorry uncle bruce) 05:20:59 <\oren\> he's 54 05:39:34 \oren\: are you oren in the online-go.com chat? 05:44:16 <\oren\> no 05:44:29 ok 05:44:36 <\oren\> right now I'm playing ksp 06:25:46 Has anyone ever tried compiling to Thue? 06:26:21 I have written a document with some ideas about a new version of X protocol. If there is something you believe is currently wrong with X then I might add those too, in case you also have some ideas related to such thing. 06:30:55 what about wayland? 06:31:24 zzo38: What if I think X should be more like NeWS? 06:32:12 shachaf: What are the differences of NeWS? 06:33:04 NeWS used Postscript. 06:33:08 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS 06:33:40 izabera: Wayland also has several problems though. 06:33:53 newsham: Do you like NeWS? 06:33:54 care to explain? 06:33:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT3mCybbhf0 06:35:49 I think there are problems with NeWS as well. X seems the best designed system so far (although many of its extensions are badly designed), although it has some problems too. 06:36:47 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 06:36:56 X is too slow over slow networks. 06:37:28 get a faster network 06:38:18 can't do anything about the speed of light tdnh 06:39:34 Changes to the protocol could be made to improve speed; the server might also implement compressed connections if needed (which is really a network feature and would not be a part of the protocol) 06:45:05 That doesn't help with latency. 06:47:07 Some changes could possibly to improve latency too but not if it makes it complicated 06:49:51 Do you like PostScript? 06:51:55 It may be suitable as a standalone programming language for printing but it should not be the protocol (some printers use it as a protocol and I consider that a bad idea) 06:53:54 What language would you use for NeWS? 06:54:27 JavaScript? 06:55:02 I do not believe the protocol should use anything like that 06:55:59 Do you like web applications? 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17:27:08 http://esolangs.org/wiki/C2BF looks like a good starting Point. 17:27:20 it's pretty hard to do such a thing 17:28:42 -!- Froox has joined. 17:29:11 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 17:31:15 -!- Froo has joined. 17:31:33 myname: True. 17:31:34 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:31:53 All the easy Things are done in our infinite Multiverses ;) 17:34:22 -!- Froox has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:48:45 -!- XorSwap has joined. 17:51:13 -!- earendel has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:54:45 -!- p34k has joined. 17:59:04 -!- MoALTz has joined. 18:02:01 [wiki] [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46651&oldid=46496 * Captainpicard98 * (+118) Added the TIBrain implementation 18:02:52 -!- XorSwap has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:03:02 -!- XorSwap has joined. 18:13:12 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:14:57 -!- XorSwap has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:31:30 -!- jaboja has joined. 18:35:12 -!- gde33 has quit. 18:35:56 -!- nooga has joined. 18:51:42 -!- earendel has joined. 19:01:05 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:09:58 -!- ais523 has joined. 19:19:44 -!- lleu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:27:54 -!- mihow has joined. 19:30:03 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:34:19 -!- mihow has quit (Quit: mihow). 19:47:15 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:55:02 -!- lynn has joined. 20:17:05 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 20:27:23 -!- nooga has joined. 20:35:17 -!- jaboja has joined. 20:46:12 -!- lynn has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:50:23 -!- bb010g has joined. 21:03:28 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 21:04:06 -!- ais523 has quit. 21:04:49 -!- lynn has joined. 21:04:50 -!- lynn_ has joined. 21:05:27 -!- lynn_ has quit (Client Quit). 21:31:33 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:47:08 [wiki] [[Brainfuck implementations]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46652&oldid=45553 * Rdebath * (+118) Moved from "Brainfuck" page 21:47:09 [wiki] [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46653&oldid=46651 * Rdebath * (-118) Interpreter not "Notabled", moved to "implementations" Undo revision 46651 by [[Special:Contributions/Captainpicard98|Captainpicard98]] ([[User talk:Captainpicard98|talk]]) 21:53:25 I assume I don't count as a hirable type theorist 21:53:37 Just because I like experimenting with types in Rust 21:57:20 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:04:51 fungot, are you a hirable type theorist? 22:04:51 b_jonas: s/ pee/ pea ofc the nature of the art is ' let john handle it, no 22:05:31 @djinn a -> Either a b {- lambdabot, are you a hirable type theorist? -} 22:05:31 Cannot parse command 22:05:40 @djinn a -> Either a b 22:05:41 f = Left 22:08:01 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:27:29 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 22:57:08 -!- asie has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:58:55 How much do you suppose people will be using CD-sized disks (including DVD and Bluray) say 12 years from now? I'm trying to tell if a DVD disk is a reasonable object for size comparison on a photo. 22:59:59 -!- asie has joined. 23:00:27 -!- lynn_ has joined. 23:01:05 -!- lynn has quit (Disconnected by services). 23:01:07 -!- lynn_ has changed nick to lynn. 23:01:32 Maybe pencils or rubik's cubes or other similar objects whose size is designed to be convenient to hold in human hands are better. 23:02:19 I think a DVD is better because pencil and cube may be different sizes. But, ensure the DVD is labeled as "DVD" to don't confuse with other discs of different sizes 23:02:57 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 23:03:02 However a ruler with inches and/or centimetres is another alternative 23:03:58 zzo38: are there disks with different sizes that look similar? A ruler is a good idea, yes. How familiar are Americans with centimiters these days? 23:04:45 Or with centimeter rulers, rather. 23:06:42 As long as it is labeled it should be OK. Many rulers have both though, so use one with both 23:08:44 Hmm… I think many rulers aren't labelled as centimeters, but you can tell because centimeter rulers are divided to 10 ticks between numbered large ticks, whereas inch rulers are divided to 16 usually. 23:12:23 -!- Froo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:12:54 zzo38: other possible choices for comparison objects are: pen, coin or banknote (I don't like that one because it works only if the expected audience is from the same country and time), credit card, floppy disk, matches, door key, keyboard (that's another of those designed to match human hands), thimble, drinking glass, human hand. 23:13:15 Oh, and tennis ball. 23:18:54 -!- nooga has joined. 23:19:44 -!- jaboja has joined. 23:20:12 AA battery, light bulb, ear plug, computer power socket or plug, VGA socket, toothbrush, … 23:28:02 -!- Frooxius has joined. 23:30:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:31:13 -!- p34k has quit. 23:31:39 How about a stylesheet language called MOAR? xD 23:41:16 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:58:28 I assume it's a strict subset of CSS 23:58:47 oerjanello 23:59:00 one hour before they steal 60 minutes from us 23:59:09 how does that make you feel?