< 1458518623 21770 :feliks!~feliks@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1458518720 89664 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm. hellogic < 1458518855 173305 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Good point < 1458518869 689077 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But tswett doesn't lend itself to porthellos as easily as e.g. hppavilion[1] < 1458518937 327452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best I found was tswellott. or warrigello, depending on how he's connected as. < 1458518945 162441 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1458518957 855652 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458518977 447310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yours sounds better, imho. it has that... Elvish feel to it? < 1458519019 793019 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, doesn't it... < 1458519066 176558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tswats tswett with a mapole because it's easier than a salutation.
< 1458519094 184226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapoles are great, eh? < 1458519100 6781 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes they are < 1458519180 634923 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c#qqRr#j¸$5^ < 1458519206 321176 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ that should be rendered with a tengwar font. < 1458519322 6361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1458519333 148531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1458519394 459273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moose < 1458519395 550104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moose? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458519420 804532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a secret nordic weapon of mass distraction? < 1458519525 159767 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really secret. meese are quite big by themselves; pretty hard to hide hth < 1458519590 465984 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you catch a moose with a choose trap < 1458519614 88628 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1458519617 306694 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1458519632 889148 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION THWACKS oerjan. 0.35 shachafs.
< 1458519667 691593 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brutal. < 1458519668 611470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1458519671 257102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get that < 1458519724 648684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then why do you need a moose whistle? I thought it was to lure them out of their lairs... < 1458519775 733211 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sprite contains caffeine, i think. rootbeer usually doesnt but can. mountain dew definitely does but isnt a cola < 1458519798 800202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's for giving them orders under adverse weather or great distances. < 1458519806 537257 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: get what? < 1458519820 468673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mapole < 1458519842 648158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, secondary portative one, in case I had lent my main one to someone else. < 1458519849 952821 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, can I get it back please? < 1458519894 397151 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: "Sprite is a colorless, lemon and lime flavored, caffeine-free soft drink" (well okay, there's a variant with caffeine) < 1458520009 908484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that reminds me of someone absconding with my swatter... < 1458520028 384070 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, it was the saucepan < 1458520045 667451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-#-#-# ... slightly modified < 1458520063 613864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :###----- < 1458520072 615419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. < 1458520078 512546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION resaucepans oerjan
< 1458520087 990975 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there are too many fake swatters and mapoles around. we need a certification system. < 1458520107 451613 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's mine. < 1458520117 444870 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm! well then ive wasted money on sprite too many times :( < 1458520127 224587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have a rowboat: ###-----\__/-----### < 1458520149 397160 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: the caffeine was in you all along! < 1458520158 487037 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :o < 1458520211 999248 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considered making a wisdom about fake mapoles, but then realized what the portmanteau would be...
< 1458520327 202164 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH! < 1458520340 361547 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION snatches his precious mapole back from shachaf
< 1458520356 407571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? popcorn < 1458520358 290399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :popcorn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458520368 627116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: popcorn? < 1458520368 627212 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fnord olet fnord." fnord < 1458520377 767865 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you must be kidding < 1458520377 905270 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't have < 1458520382 479252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1458520382 616920 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1458520390 752242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try "mock mapole" hth < 1458520397 8241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I know you can do better than that < 1458520397 285899 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: irp will solve it. i quite like ribbit. :) i'm still not entirely clear on how composable continuations work and where you don't < 1458520399 95186 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that "olet" is finnish < 1458520424 581166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks, but I'm more upset about the f-words. < 1458520443 927004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well it was presumably bordered by fnordable finnish words < 1458520444 64508 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458520447 948079 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though this explains why they would be so frequent in that context) < 1458520498 389543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: et ole suomalainen hth < 1458520514 151932 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord fnord fnord ♪ < 1458520555 772897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :califnordication? < 1458520569 20239 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about GG: there's something weird going on. I remember the "horse", near the beginning of the colour pages. and it's nowhere to be seen. < 1458520591 554872 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat? < 1458520599 303078 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1458520604 675910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be that the color pages are starting earlier these days < 1458520607 780317 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1458520617 562680 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1458520637 710351 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, cheyenne wright reapplied some color < 1458520674 420515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have to admit that I'm unsure about the horse reference) < 1458520697 196369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I did notice some very early colorization lately < 1458520723 828789 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's been changed to symbolize agatha's "breakthrough", i think. < 1458520743 569685 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while originally it was just black and white because that's how it was published, maybe? < 1458520790 488355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of horses, hmm < 1458520804 997126 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458520810 836119 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: anyway, http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20050404#.Vu9C2Tbmpjo < 1458520822 192971 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid fake anchors < 1458520855 589072 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once managed to turn it off by disabling one of the advertising sites, but now there are so many... < 1458520885 388607 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something google-added, i think. < 1458520913 928836 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm still two months before the paperback edition of The Shepherd's Crown is released < 1458520915 42182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't got any on my current URL. I'm pretty strict with noscript. < 1458520933 212813 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I was getting to it. I just needed to be patient for the "horse". < 1458520982 899895 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That horse. < 1458521089 918826 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed the picture :) < 1458521098 580687 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1458521101 545661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funge-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46627&oldid=44830 5* 03Ozwg6693 5* (+2947) 10Starts the quest to make this an actual page and not a joke. Page is a WIP < 1458521102 691260 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1458521231 953444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Funge-9814]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46628 5* 03Ozwg6693 5* (+266) 10Created page with "==Name?== If this is to be the sequel page to Befunge, should it be Befunge or Funge? I like Funge (since the original page isn't Befunge-93), and vote to change the name on..." < 1458521343 183803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funge-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46629&oldid=46627 5* 03Ozwg6693 5* (-55) 10Professionalism upgrade. < 1458521459 933105 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will not touch that funge cleanup with a ten foot pole
< 1458521473 543894 :lynn_!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458521545 320842 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458521564 568341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what if we make it 10 nano-light-seconds instead? ) < 1458521638 690860 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please shampoo fungot twh < 1458521638 828117 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's what we wanted in the first < 1458521721 136515 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458521809 746229 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit i'm trying to search the logs for when i discovered how to turn off that anchor, but i cannot find _that_ either. < 1458522093 327465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:09:18: some script from addthis.com does it. < 1458522095 330328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:23:45: ah there it's gone. < 1458522100 674793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-12-06 < 1458522117 687250 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1458522292 276904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1458522327 295260 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e++ < 1458522434 393620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should have a keyword you use to leave notes to yourself in the logs hth < 1458522453 516475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heh. < 1458522466 230739 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think _today's_ logs will work fine, next time. < 1458522470 472519 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma int-e < 1458522470 610119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e has a karma of 9 < 1458522497 369202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS A KEYWORD PRIVMSG FOR OERJAN TO REMEMBER. ♪DING♪ < 1458522499 31051 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly low < 1458522514 968805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma dons < 1458522515 106361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dons has a karma of 2 < 1458522532 47761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the karma has been reset several times < 1458522542 693583 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dons used to be in the three digit range) < 1458522620 814673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's dons? < 1458522696 463688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don stewart < 1458522744 18994 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/tags/haskell/topusers < 1458522764 711537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the don stewart. < 1458522814 553616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma shachaf < 1458522814 691238 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 92 < 1458522823 492211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan might remember why my karma is artificially inflated tdnh < 1458522841 535391 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma oerjan < 1458522841 672829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has a karma of 32 < 1458522858 645208 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is also not very active on #haskell anymore, to put it mildly
< 1458522921 849072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1458522960 172872 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs386246.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458523080 892780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma boily < 1458523081 30666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has a karma of 109 < 1458523084 34147 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs386246.centertel.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1458523094 275516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems rather unlikely < 1458523106 540078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma synx < 1458523106 677428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :synx has a karma of 11 < 1458523112 352999 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the did I manage 109... < 1458523116 976381 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1458523132 921230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily-- ... let's put things right ... < 1458523201 961259 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma boily < 1458523202 98804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has a karma of 108 < 1458523227 996315 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 109 < 1458523250 803898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :109: 109 < 1458523260 162222 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily++ < 1458523264 167837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :108 is much smoother < 1458523267 917271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly better with a prime hth < 1458523280 339029 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 108 < 1458523284 383155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :108: 2 2 3 3 3 < 1458523284 788236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean really, really smooth. < 1458523294 520453 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IC < 1458523349 927745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, 107 is prime too, if that's what you want < 1458523511 207411 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 108. it's a buddhisticaly good number. < 1458523873 800335 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1458523904 529652 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? french < 1458523906 146584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Le français n'est pas le démon, visitez les Coupeurs. Ne pas couvrir. Meilleur avant! < 1458523915 607170 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is Coupeurs < 1458523919 418904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or are) < 1458523991 255300 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458524124 330648 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norwegian < 1458524125 394788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458524153 365089 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? german < 1458524154 528493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458524176 377358 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finnish < 1458524177 332883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish suomalaiset ei Perkeleistä on hakkapeliittaan. Ei saa peittää. Parasta ennen! < 1458524202 405516 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn norwegian/Norsk ikke faen er Hakadalen. Må ikke tildekkes. Best før! < 1458524208 191876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «norwegian» < 1458524237 532485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? english < 1458524238 352886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458524278 224515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd appreciate english < 1458524364 80691 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn English not Satan is Hackensack. Do not cover. Best before! < 1458524367 152745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1458524375 237111 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1458524381 813796 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn English not Satan is Hackensack. Do not cover. Best before! < 1458524384 142962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'english': English not Satan is Hackensack. Do not cover. Best before! < 1458524389 727770 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: went for something "Hackerish" hth < 1458524404 484515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not. no hackers in norway hth < 1458524421 436235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all still learning to le/rn. < 1458524426 631635 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker, in the sense to cut something. cutter, coupeur. < 1458524435 240217 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should've went with Trancheur. < 1458524435 546149 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, hakkapeliitta has nothing to do with hackers afaik < 1458524455 704622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to learn is human, to le/rn divine < 1458524467 799192 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1458524484 235064 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm checking... < 1458524517 869523 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hakkapeliitta (Finnish pl. hakkapeliitat) is a historiographical term used for a Finnish light cavalryman in the service of King Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden during the Thirty Years' War (1618 to 1648)." < 1458524582 268403 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it _is_ relating to hacking in the violent sense. < 1458524585 505169 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*related < 1458524610 539055 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choppeur? Émincisseur? Élagueur? < 1458524716 285217 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm tricky < 1458524809 389700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1458524989 259399 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{english,norwegian} < 1458524992 448675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1458525006 864724 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this simply does not work, then. < 1458525059 439914 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my trusty old memory will have to come up with some better word that fits. perhaps some time around christmas. < 1458525092 669883 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of christmases coming up. good occasions for thinking about nonsensical Finnish. < 1458525100 842800 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, all i can think of is "amortized" hth < 1458525126 823928 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange times we are living in. oerjan remembers amortized. < 1458525131 100513 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's not the finnish that is the problem. < 1458525327 760223 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SPIDER CHICKEN < 1458525480 965475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily “Danish pronunciation: [ˈsmɶɐ̯ɐˌb̥ʁœðˀ]”. am I supposed to just cough the word? <-- don't be ridiculous. you're supposed to put a potato in your mouth hth < 1458525481 103065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1458526178 285163 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1458526305 357438 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas But it also turns out, and I admit I don't understand why, that two counters are also enough, but in that case the slowdown isn't exponential, it's double-exponential. <-- you store n counters in n prime exponents of a single one, + 1 scratch for multiplication and division. < 1458526305 534388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1458526912 202114 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bogosort < 1458526918 479136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bogosort is an efficient sorting algorithm for nondeterministic Turing machines. Taneb may have invented it. < 1458527312 75806 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1458528024 253965 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458528236 924103 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458529678 413839 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bogobogosort < 1458529680 148339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bogobogosort? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458530188 520625 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458530527 73579 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1458532156 102826 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITL tswett implies nuclear weapons have no ethical consequences. < 1458532702 56911 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ivddogollxyeduyn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458533565 961465 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bbklpcpnffpsqpic QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458533627 311094 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pkescsczbzdrssue JOIN :#esoteric < 1458533864 954745 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be possible to define a generic bogo- transform for algorithms? < 1458534135 556729 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458534179 821996 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pkescsczbzdrssue QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458534266 743358 :treaki_!~treaki@p54BF2C63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1458534338 356098 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dnjqaclouxdbimnw JOIN :#esoteric < 1458534342 273010 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458534481 466954 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1458534484 363913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458534493 149469 :treaki__!~treaki@p5B11C89E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458534541 491716 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TG is short fot Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty of a multiplayer game. < 1458534543 954157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tg': TG is short fot Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty of a multiplayer game. < 1458534559 74723 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TG is short fot Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. < 1458534561 173911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'tg': TG is short fot Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. < 1458534639 531892 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1458534667 963469 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1458534669 233244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1458534675 894638 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fpnisybjbqabxbqy JOIN :#esoteric < 1458534857 540782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't censor them regardless of accuracy, unless "censor" is supposed to be the actual text of the entry anyways, in which case it should be censored regardless of accuracy. < 1458534899 239917 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is currently the actual text of the entry hth < 1458534932 566918 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1458535029 932277 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458535233 731938 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Hi < 1458535240 905026 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: I've started writing compilers :) < 1458535300 638582 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fot < 1458535301 472168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458535309 945247 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1458535335 820428 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Shadow, The Plague, The Void wants you in its unholy office. Now. < 1458535411 351316 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks this sounds like a good day to skip work.
< 1458535445 442597 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1458535455 993522 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with compilers, I want to deal with the semantic web a bit < 1458535460 896909 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i have work. < 1458535466 540720 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Exactly. < 1458535512 789180 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing about the semantic web, which looks like it will work excellently for my work-avoiding plans today. < 1458535559 951180 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that "fot" relevant to me in any way btw < 1458535571 401879 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, you did say "fot" in tg < 1458535575 755209 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of "for" < 1458535579 308697 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1458535582 236740 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may have been a pun, but if it was I don't get it < 1458535599 292617 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. < 1458535601 402469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'tg': TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. < 1458535602 266472 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused after your second le/rn because you didn't fix it and I couldn't see the difference (I found it) < 1458535625 896737 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :min_nd might be an interesting project. A minimal NodeJS-like language < 1458535631 191686 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not JS, but similar < 1458535701 968823 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll compile it xD < 1458535708 784432 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THAT would be a good idea :P) < 1458535715 841608 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, actually...) < 1458535724 88819 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm... Should I? < 1458535725 252923 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile early, compile often < 1458535749 135672 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Would compiling a JS-ish language result in hellfire raining from the sky to undo me? < 1458535771 525112 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(undoing me as in not just killing me, but erasing the fact that I ever existed in the first place) < 1458535789 368531 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either because it's an atrocity OR because it would be hard. Both work. < 1458535800 946668 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more I think about it, the louder the "yes" becomes. < 1458535813 647832 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes as in "don't") < 1458535813 785429 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what you mean by 'compile' < 1458535853 324758 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Produce an executable. I'd remove some of the worse-for-compiling parts- e.g. reduced dynamic typing- but I would keep JS in spirit if I were to do that < 1458535862 494545 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all the variables are dynamic typed still and it tests the type of each variable before doing operations on them, is it really 'compiled'? < 1458535886 933892 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: That's why it wouldn't be dynamically-typed < 1458535902 53667 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not dynamically typed then it can be compiled < 1458535905 231403 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be boo:python::min_nd:JavaScript < 1458535934 56497 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I should, mostly because higher-level functions < 1458535953 735842 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be competing against java/c# (if it has a garbage collector), or c++ (if it doesn't have a garbage collector) < 1458535955 574644 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, Haskell has higher-level functions (and static typing) < 1458535963 855500 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yeah, probably < 1458535979 395476 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll likely just interpret it, or VM it maybe < 1458535985 110070 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is in a different category because it has no side-effects whatsoever < 1458535990 395471 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yeah < 1458535991 702848 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1458535994 726608 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything in haskell is local < 1458536008 515985 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1458536013 209035 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I doubt I can compile it < 1458536053 904951 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You like Node. What's the stuff that NEEDS to be included if it were minimized? < 1458536055 92768 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows some more optimizations in theory (ie turning loops into SIMD) < 1458536056 781440 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (undoing me as in not just killing me, but erasing the fact that I ever existed in the first place) <-- don't be silly. all evidence indicates that has never happened to anyone hth < 1458536067 157383 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well-played. < 1458536078 923062 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I'll make min_nd tapey :P) < 1458536102 470098 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also prevents some other pretty big optimizations (ie you can't just share pointers to the same object all over the place) < 1458536103 897796 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Vectorization? < 1458536134 766222 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in theory non-side effect code can be vectorized < 1458536150 881721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: Probably first-class functions would be one < 1458536156 791445 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously < 1458536169 163231 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the compiler can prove that pointers to arrays passed to a function don't overlap < 1458536173 558347 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they can't < 1458536202 180516 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice there are no real performance-oriented non-side effect languages today < 1458536206 380864 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people use c++ < 1458536210 86135 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And events, ofc < 1458536234 858683 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :current non-side effect languages don't really care about perf that much and are designed for other goals < 1458536234 996254 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yeah, I find the way programmers talk about their favorite language funny < 1458536267 469010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Events is a feature of Node.js, and DOM has different kind of events, although neither is core JavaScript < 1458536269 43307 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I use Haskell because it has these performance benefits that I love, and not because it's a fucking awesome language that I fell in love with" < 1458536289 169231 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But I'm minimizing Node, not JS < 1458536294 27169 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1458536303 78724 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS is just minimized by proxy, being a Node thing < 1458536314 564541 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I call it: "nanode") < 1458536324 620903 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or more accurately, Node is a JS thing < 1458536332 255114 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thingship is commutative in this case < 1458536351 63131 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-fpnisybjbqabxbqy QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1458536370 680898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK < 1458536403 379462 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yep. Computers have enough memory and enough processing speed nowadays that using the optimal language for a task is nearly always pointless objective; the end user won't notice in most cases < 1458536414 734147 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more about not using a shit language and being a decent programmer < 1458536430 56702 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :errrrrr < 1458536442 162069 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: That's not a happy noise for me. < 1458536442 970702 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's application dependent < 1458536449 440208 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yeah, but in most cases < 1458536460 712419 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you need to-the-femtosecond accuracy < 1458536472 181003 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most languages will do < 1458536474 481200 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're doing video games or what I do (sound processing), then C++ more or less can't be replaced < 1458536482 366174 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Even by Rust? < 1458536508 614891 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1458536512 576363 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust would do < 1458536513 617334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can program with many different programming language, such as C and Forth and 6502 and JavaScript and whatever else; they can be use for different purpose < 1458536553 40274 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory java or c# aren't that far from being video-game usable < 1458536563 998304 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft runs on java < 1458536573 103653 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some XNA games run on c# < 1458536594 415510 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but writing games in java isn't easier than writing them in c++ < 1458536598 659326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends what game < 1458536599 737359 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no benefit < 1458536617 839117 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a clear cost (garbage collector pauses) < 1458536667 958369 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : ok, name me a game that's easier to write in java than in c++ < 1458536737 847175 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Any game that your boss told you to write in Java < 1458536758 290470 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming you're a proficient Javagrammer < 1458536772 202707 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need specific names for different types of programmers < 1458536807 906962 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pygrammers (pythonistas), Scigrammers (scientific computing), Pro-grammars (linguists, particularly ones who moonlight as pedants) < 1458536867 36013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know because I don't program in Java or C++ < 1458537163 477179 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: if your boss tells you to write a game in java < 1458537173 840655 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1458537184 262830 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you need to work in a better game company :o < 1458537185 384800 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1458537192 963053 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458537201 960243 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : but you program in C? < 1458537377 35320 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1458537377 35344 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1458537381 12731 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458537468 313073 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1458537718 54070 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1458537823 662387 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458537875 476971 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1458538381 189788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :med: Yes I do make program in C < 1458539668 416982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have PNG picture with Japanese mahjong arrange in grid? < 1458539878 723123 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-scowxcdnrbnztnrj JOIN :#esoteric < 1458540323 944140 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-scowxcdnrbnztnrj QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458540333 667967 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1458540597 666255 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1458541413 706775 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1458541485 273786 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458541933 924537 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byegtmcogbaxhcfk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1458542502 618991 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1458543517 791632 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Lots of Android games are Java, although they are hardly AAA games < 1458543591 577556 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because they made the mistake of making the api java based but yeah < 1458543798 896930 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-newrbinvtgueiqyp JOIN :#esoteric < 1458544339 788527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also other virtual machines to make computer game and other program out of < 1458544894 739719 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-axhqhyrfdojnjqrp JOIN :#esoteric < 1458544907 171476 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Have you done anything with Rust? < 1458544937 665542 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Fair enough < 1458544948 915663 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Have you ever done anything with dk? < 1458544959 561784 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fur Elise in Q semiminor" < 1458544973 81044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: What's dk? < 1458544979 88819 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donkey Kong? < 1458544991 500986 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Compiled programming language < 1458544996 5529 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-newrbinvtgueiqyp QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1458545000 487840 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-axhqhyrfdojnjqrp NICK :heroux < 1458545009 984842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I haven't done anything with it before, given I haven't heard of it before :) < 1458545024 881603 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: OK, that's good < 1458545042 396029 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: The fact that you haven't used it yet means my computer isn't necessarily completely open < 1458545055 571632 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Because I haven't published dk yet :P < 1458545122 147717 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1458545140 860038 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I've been learning how to write compilers, and dk is my first compiled language :P < 1458545145 708621 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has... expressions < 1458545149 241240 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And putc() < 1458545154 377045 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, expressions! < 1458545164 914963 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft, why would you want I/O? =P < 1458545166 493592 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary: +-*/, unary: -x < 1458545182 218622 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Because some people like knowing if their code works < 1458545188 963538 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's just O at the moment =P < 1458545201 29844 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'm currently getting functions to work < 1458545212 315638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you know how to compile it into QUACKVM codes (either assembly or binary) < 1458545273 400777 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! Just figured out a bug! < 1458545296 147645 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You can write a backend from the Walric Platform (the WP compiler collection's IL) < 1458545313 417962 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1458545315 829726 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-axhqhyrfdojnjqrp QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458545318 636888 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT FUNCTIONS WORKING! < 1458545326 758224 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE! < 1458545335 228745 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE REALLY JUST PROCEDURES AT THE MOMENT! BUT STILL! < 1458545340 367078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the specification of such IL? < 1458545345 410288 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just a bug from a simple workaround < 1458545356 622639 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Currently nonexistent, as it's still in development < 1458545369 310112 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1458545381 926537 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But it's a simple ASM inspired by TIS-100, sans massive parallelity < 1458545384 883377 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lmwkzicrdwnqqrzm JOIN :#esoteric < 1458545454 206635 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It uses an accumulator for arithmetic and conditionals, has partial orthagonality, and memory is loaded with LD and stored with ULD from and to the exp and imp registers < 1458545621 98715 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm considering making return a function. Is that an awful, awful idea? < 1458545669 2965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To know, QUACKVM is using 16-bit cells. Memory cell 2 acts somewhat like an accumulator. < 1458545693 521318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that is awful idea it depend on the context of the rest of the programming language I think? < 1458545719 511749 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, mine uses 64-bit memory and registers. So that might (read: would most definitely) be an issue < 1458545744 381303 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose I could make up the spec to allow for differently-sized registers < 1458545753 359622 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the final target < 1458545884 677402 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: To make return work, it's literally 5 lines of unconditional ASM, so I'll do that < 1458545887 203163 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ret(x) < 1458545899 830692 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, but that'll mess with typechecking... < 1458545902 164325 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1458545919 358762 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not exactly < 1458545935 505542 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you return a value of the wrong type, it'll just bitcast automatically, which is probably even worse < 1458545942 577905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is a possibility to allow different size registers; that is a possible design. When someone needs such a design, now you have it! < 1458546134 269150 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458546387 234837 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:147e:4d06:aa00:1dc9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458546432 256552 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458547364 216348 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1458547371 106554 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNCTIONS ARE NOW ACTUALLY FUNCTIONS! < 1458547408 776358 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I'm considering is a nullary operator called $ < 1458547436 604125 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you put an expression on a line of its own, it is evaluated and its result is stored in $ < 1458547457 73700 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean acc < 1458547461 148792 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When an operator is evaluated, it's assumed its left argument is in acc < 1458547503 874588 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ would basically mean "do nothing" when on the left and "move the accumulator to the aux register prior to overwriting it with the left argument" when on the right < 1458547522 639777 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, $ allows you to reuse the expression on the previous line, which is good for big expressions < 1458547529 37305 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5+9 < 1458547531 207266 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$-2 < 1458547542 463563 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :putn($) < 1458547550 633595 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> 12 < 1458549564 548400 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys ever sleep < 1458549599 472514 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1458549667 24908 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzleep is for the wezzz < 1458550108 847555 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458550118 244154 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1458550118 381720 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1458550176 286000 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458550255 924136 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1458550861 35386 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458550969 593749 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-240-184.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2009-11/msg00089.html < 1458551288 452342 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458551511 982716 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458551555 25444 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: hi you got a bit reddited https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4b8264/celebrates_obfuscation_and_conciseness_with/ < 1458551558 803708 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :K-Lined < 1458551574 440551 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1458551579 815224 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. < 1458551639 50204 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tromp you got a bit reddited https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4b8264/celebrates_obfuscation_and_conciseness_with/ < 1458551639 187298 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1458551683 145930 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you don't want publicity, IOCCC is not a good venue to post things < 1458551706 808052 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1458551735 122379 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that page didn't seem to have been linked before, though. < 1458552966 311156 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458553530 353346 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1458553591 917750 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458553694 25757 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458553705 759771 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1458553858 189527 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-240-184.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1458553987 175630 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1458554108 231239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1458554510 18013 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458554894 201412 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:147e:4d06:aa00:1dc9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1458555566 812369 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458555728 135355 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458556234 988807 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1458556342 54461 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:147e:4d06:aa00:1dc9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458556543 988188 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458557012 15789 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458557277 993015 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458558080 152706 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that BLC self-interpreter is pretty small. < 1458558166 151552 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is BLC the only thing that that could reasonably be a self-interpreter for? < 1458558590 708631 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, this particular sequence is U'^(F R U' R'). < 1458558602 526635 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( That's a horribly non-mathematical term, "reasonably". ) < 1458558674 84277 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I like that sequence. < 1458558809 866156 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for its effect? Let me append U to it; that seems to make it a little easier to understand. < 1458558835 951287 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :U^(F R U' R') is meaningful too < 1458558862 246745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized that I use those for flipping edges :P < 1458558912 125416 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relative to the U face: it moves UBL, UBR, and UFL counterclockwise, then rotates UBL in-place clockwise and UBR in-place counterclockwise. < 1458558955 999726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one flips two opposite edges; the second flips two neighbouring edges. I don't care about the rest ;) < 1458559003 455556 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or vice versa... hmm :) < 1458559084 266310 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course I should care if I wanted to be faster) < 1458559092 889689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't your thing the opposite of my thing/ < 1458559127 646561 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SEWER CHICKEN < 1458559239 113748 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I've got this stupid sequence: U' R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2 < 1458559277 187300 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see where the beauty is. < 1458559316 955434 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the point to my mind is that after F R U' R', all pieces of the bottom two layers are safely stashed in the bottom two layers again... while one edge piece on the top has been flipped < 1458559419 994634 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though... that's a pretty interesting part in the middle there. We've got, like... F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R < 1458559437 474765 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: and yes, it's the inverse of course... < 1458559439 264472 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That part is [F, R' B2 R]. < 1458559459 10803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION failed to recall the group theoretic point of conjugation ;)
< 1458559482 795385 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In context: U' R' [F, R' B2 R] R < 1458559529 369410 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make that even more concise if you want: U' [F, B2^R']^R' < 1458559609 302218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I actually use U^(R U R' F') anyway) < 1458559679 229110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you'll recognize R U R' F' as the inverse of F R U' R' < 1458559709 714626 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1458559740 258780 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme pay attention to where the white and yellow pieces go as I execute this sequence. < 1458559820 797175 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six of the eight pieces ultimately stay still. < 1458560324 670731 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: actually solving it can be more fun than theoretic computations < 1458562400 410037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people in Europe: don't forget we have timezone offset jump this weekend (on Easter) < 1458562461 797658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, that's what mad said too. < 1458562767 344524 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1458563823 876535 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458566137 556537 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458566807 574841 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1458566807 793281 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1458569574 959808 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor Dupree < 1458570278 623956 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458573211 987494 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458574220 147647 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.157 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1458574323 62804 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1458574346 816612 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458574427 733700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, < 1458574434 621512 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458574644 916633 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1458574805 46272 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:147e:4d06:aa00:1dc9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1458575517 988617 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458575786 987776 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458576835 869423 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458577229 644083 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1458577336 539995 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458577346 611745 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1458578020 5303 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458578244 434985 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458578297 933232 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl NICK :MoALTz < 1458578881 541540 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458579235 83888 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458579254 81853 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do GUI on the WP? < 1458579263 462469 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WP is the IL for my compilers) < 1458579399 88765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1458579935 595726 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you start with a QRMVP then add a LCLIC and finally a UX£DX < 1458579979 279410 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: please tell me that WP is wordpress < 1458579989 627106 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's walrus something < 1458580002 270677 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1458580013 4657 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :new language idea: wordpress is the IL < 1458580135 294447 :dos!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458580149 661112 :dos!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: izabera: It's "Walric Platform" < 1458580159 634295 :dos!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1458580342 96927 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458580490 864598 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is walric even a word < 1458580494 107262 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now < 1458580499 661365 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to English < 1458580504 698577 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how it works < 1458580550 337129 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1458580659 618029 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amogajhmjxxpgpov QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1458580741 672006 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580745 730044 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580746 238344 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580791 321929 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580795 388260 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580795 896531 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580833 317492 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580837 373830 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580837 882029 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580875 322390 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458580876 297163 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580879 381131 JOIN :#esoteric > 1458580879 887143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458581768 154988 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458582390 463307 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1458583114 95038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes, it is. < 1458583119 121910 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It most certainly is. < 1458583139 667528 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not question the tongues of the Ancient Walrusian Empire < 1458583339 261694 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: itym walric hth < 1458583443 957814 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458583735 652572 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ehh117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458583751 362294 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-240-184.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1458583948 35530 :jaboja!~jaboja@eml13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1458584209 422758 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458584415 438790 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1458584606 875305 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1458585058 554188 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1458585216 754395 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No, I mean Walrusian. Walrusian denotes the ancient culture, Walric denotes the species < 1458585233 766835 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Walrusians were walric < 1458586090 495029 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458586161 355548 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1458586359 994763 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I put GUI in my IL? < 1458586378 398167 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What instructions should I include for that? Or should I do something with special registers? < 1458586750 193692 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You have any idea? < 1458586792 143148 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you usually put guis on things? < 1458586798 301549 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: With OO and Tkinter < 1458586803 875157 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no Qt5 < 1458586810 300951 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make up your mind < 1458586813 64729 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped using Tkinter a while ago < 1458586819 462812 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I did, I just misspoke the first time < 1458586843 262670 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, misthought < 1458586869 751401 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But I want the GUI for a low-level ASM-like intermediate language < 1458587394 366783 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm thinking instructions available in an IL library that compile to system calls < 1458587400 239683 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Is that a good idea? < 1458588097 578616 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1458588111 523960 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an IL exactly? < 1458588282 511211 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Intermediate Language < 1458588284 138764 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-182.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1458588289 202046 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IL as in CIL < 1458588298 296875 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does the c stand for < 1458588301 447174 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1458588314 31449 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: CIL is the Common Intermediate Language for CLI (.NET) < 1458588318 917741 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1458588321 603575 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But that's not relevant < 1458588482 38982 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1458588665 392371 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1458589458 807625 :impomatic_!~digital_w@145.2.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458590385 678950 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ehh117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1458590757 379440 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no clue < 1458590772 586399 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you mean by "put GUI in my IL?" < 1458590783 387956 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want an IDE for it? or primitives for GUI functionality? < 1458590795 599538 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I have an IL (intermediate language) that I compile languages to. I want it to support GUI. < 1458590817 848410 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: usually GUI calls are done via a library < 1458590831 945447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh yeah well i have an advanced language that i compile languages to < 1458590837 160522 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yeah < 1458590842 382639 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly how GUIs are implemented under the hood depends on the environment < 1458590848 789534 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Windows, at least some of it is syscalls iirc < 1458590854 475942 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on X, it's all network-based < 1458591403 458288 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458592006 62161 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1458592277 530239 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1458592811 351217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1029 < 1458592824 522222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is irritating. < 1458592835 682816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I olist and then I have to wait for HackEgo to respond. < 1458592844 80414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'll start reading the comic and then it'll interrupt me in the middle. < 1458592847 197021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1029: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1458592855 934724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smackego < 1458592860 102888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: smackego: not found < 1458593014 461811 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1458593024 541241 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1458594670 552003 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458594956 604848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look < 1458594979 41711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by the way, not with this comic but probably a previous one, there's also a news entry at O < 1458595141 637086 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458595409 615253 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1458595653 707339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CodeMaster111 5* 10New user account < 1458595740 204541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is probably not interested in Start of Darkness < 1458595795 923078 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1458596419 551024 :asie!~asie@asie.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1458596672 425681 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1458596847 198744 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ehh117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458597183 207102 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458597358 12115 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1458599479 260715 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1458599530 873317 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458599535 517666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1458599555 178411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom___hoover/Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. < 1458599719 480583 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1458599719 647283 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 20h 37m 18s ago: “Danish pronunciation: [ˈsmɶɐ̯ɐˌb̥ʁœðˀ]”. am I supposed to just cough the word? <-- don't be ridiculous. you're supposed to put a potato in your mouth hth < 1458599753 30988 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458599757 214658 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smackego < 1458599758 698689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: smackego: not found < 1458599763 210102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "Ow!" > bin/smackego < 1458599766 886016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1458599772 224422 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan with raw onions, on some tunnbröd, and an ounce of aquavit. < 1458599772 354772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1458599779 535678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't work hth < 1458599779 816010 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ehh117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1458599780 46793 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "echo \"Ow!\"" > bin/smackego < 1458599781 989126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1458599785 396086 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I noticed < 1458599787 480919 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, crap < 1458599788 41335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :still doesn't work hth < 1458599790 33798 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smackego < 1458599790 603987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/smackego: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/smackego: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1458599791 34184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why don't you just use mkx < 1458599796 923152 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf, hppavellon[1]. < 1458599798 490282 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I keep forgetting it exists < 1458599805 438510 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx bin/smackego < 1458599806 813132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1458599821 979001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx bin/smackego//echo "Ow!" < 1458599824 291304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/smackego < 1458599826 16427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like smackego, though. < 1458599829 693475 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smackego < 1458599830 351601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1458599835 260742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unnecessary violence is scow. < 1458599852 306953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, the reason it doesn't work is great. < 1458599853 535361 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Perhaps smackego should read from a directory of files? < 1458599927 654923 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of something < 1458599930 156218 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1458599931 96453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1458599935 808724 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metest < 1458599938 201721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metest? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1458599955 362442 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn metest//me tests HackEgo's mechanics < 1458599962 996633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «metest» < 1458599968 788013 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metest < 1458599970 508288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/me tests HackEgo's mechanics < 1458599973 838354 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1458599976 915382 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's interesting < 1458599979 556334 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1458599987 415968 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how IRC works for a second < 1458599991 70286 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, that would be cool < 1458599995 693910 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is extremely resilient to botlops. < 1458600005 697123 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all tried, one time or another. < 1458600005 827375 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is that a botloopable thing? < 1458600014 791918 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botlop < 1458600016 440071 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was just hoping I could make HackEgo /me < 1458600017 160822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release. < 1458600027 379462 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "/me tests" < 1458600027 947446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"/me tests" < 1458600034 600266 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo /me tests < 1458600035 137055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/me tests < 1458600039 944226 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect that to work < 1458600043 991980 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would've been cool < 1458600045 528267 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use the raw stuff behind the slash. < 1458600054 438396 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ? < 1458600055 26804 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slash is an illusion. there is no slash. < 1458600075 502669 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must find a way to generate a '\a' hth < 1458600094 478022 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wait, \a is a bell... ) < 1458600099 192594 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if the slash is an illusion, what does that make /oren/? < 1458600104 381064 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A double-illusion? < 1458600110 639266 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proper Canadian. < 1458600117 395604 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, Canada doesn't exist. < 1458600117 875480 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1458600135 86337 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How could /me trigger a botlop? < 1458600153 741027 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION `echo hello world
< 1458600161 8267 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, didn't expect that to work < 1458600171 367609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What? We made HackEgo loop with lambdabot. < 1458600187 314608 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's a /double/ botloop. < 1458600211 375516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to what? < 1458600221 574490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hackego shouöd prepend its messages with a zero-width non-breaking space < 1458600223 968575 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A single (self) botlop < 1458600224 179010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1458600225 76125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1458600228 11768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 212200Z 29017G23KT 30SM FEW060 FEW090 FEW140 BKN240 03/M12 A2976 RMK SC1AS1AS1CI5 SC TR SLP081 \ ENVA 212220Z 09004KT 9999 -DZ SCT013 BKN022 01/01 Q1004 RMK WIND 670FT 22008KT \ ESSB 212220Z AUTO 07004KT 9999 BKN009/// BKN039/// OVC064/// 00/M01 Q1006 \ KOAK 212153Z 22015KT 10SM SCT024 BKN031 OVC070 16/11 A3005 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2040 RAE25 < 1458600228 142044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLP177 P0000 T01560106 < 1458600231 216977 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore /me is not triggered < 1458600244 149892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: IRC clients don't receive their own messages. < 1458600245 566923 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Ah, makes sense < 1458600249 59713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is done to prevent botloops < 1458600249 190125 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eh? we managed that? < 1458600252 126300 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, and? < 1458600259 695153 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, right < 1458600262 194077 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fail* < 1458600275 25652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroogled < 1458600301 512904 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I still think whoever maintains HackEgo (I forgot who) should add a feature to trigger /me commands, if it wouldn't be dangerous somehow < 1458600311 297292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where test < 1458600311 427702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?@ ?run var$("(@metar "++).(++") \\ ")=<>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1458600510 925964 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I cannot decipher it < 1458600522 947259 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've said ((x++).(++z))y is x++y++z < 1458600530 430032 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It isn't < 1458600532 760618 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT < 1458600544 161145 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it might be < 1458600547 660370 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that =< "(@metar "++x++")") . words $ ?show < 1458600605 786809 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: There, it is < 1458600615 356004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Better? hth < 1458600651 283187 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make the ultimate proof assistant for some reason. A proof assistant with multiple formal systems rolled into it. < 1458600667 842496 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: =<< is black magic then? < 1458600678 538033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1458600701 803977 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run x+++y < 1458600703 437465 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a b c’ with actual type ‘Expr’ < 1458600703 567795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(+++)’, namely ‘x’ < 1458600703 567885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: x +++ y Couldn't match expected type ‘a b' c'’ wit... < 1458600704 471943 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no < 1458600705 429765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's concatMap < 1458600712 827869 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (+++) < 1458600712 958014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. My brain just exploded < 1458600715 395854 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1458600717 710157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: please experiment with lambdabot in /msg hth < 1458600723 625886 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1458600726 815798 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah < 1458600736 597655 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot needs a ++++++++++ command < 1458600741 900676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just finishes with a \\ above, doesn't it? < 1458600744 650515 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/command/operator/ < 1458600770 420456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("(@metar "++).(++") \\ ")=< var "abc" < 1458600809 370669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : abc < 1458600815 215561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1 + 1 < 1458600817 142177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1458600828 905471 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, run var is like eval? < 1458600854 125572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :runvar is a Norwegian name, isn't it? < 1458600877 955621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A combination of ENVA and Runar, perhaps. < 1458600883 764138 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess \\ is some.kind of seperator for the commands < 1458600889 616428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a \ < 1458600896 693940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@where test) ENVA KOAK < 1458600896 824307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ?? ?@ ?run var$("(@metar "++).(++") \\ ")=< a? < 1458601484 628367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exp as in base e < 1458601489 824004 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I got that < 1458601494 348318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's exponentiation. < 1458601495 320532 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: exp as in a^b < 1458601500 712135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course pi type is serious. < 1458601503 911301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1458601512 372119 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is a pi type a kind of product type? Big pi notation? < 1458601516 713460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1458601525 833987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And exponentiation is repeated product, so it all works out. < 1458601545 983730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pi_{x : A}{B} = A -> B < 1458601556 64057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A product of |A| Bs.q < 1458601577 380974 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Couldn't there be an imaginary version of the unit type that root type can return? lt[t](u) -> x+(y, imu)? < 1458601578 371689 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1458601627 153061 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on his helmet
< 1458601637 946283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an exp type is just exp(1 + x) = 1 + x + x^2/2 + x^3/6 + x^4/24 + ... right? < 1458601643 121000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1458601653 386244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean exp(x) = 1 + x + x^2/2 + x^3/6 + x^4/24 + ... < 1458601677 697200 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1458602048 582634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:CodeMaster11114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46630 5* 0368.134.221.253 5* (+1181) 10Initialized userpage. < 1458602049 549422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes. < 1458602058 912274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to be careful about ordered and unordered tuples. < 1458602599 968450 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1458603556 266427 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ehh117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458603617 340156 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1458603753 867025 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1458603813 44217 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1458604040 672743 :asie!~asie@asie.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1458604393 657815 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@201-238-8-125.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1458604533 8766 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric