< 1457740934 509042 :jaboja64!~jaboja@emf122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1457741193 837937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With game such as chess and Go and so on it would be theoretically possible that a sufficiently powerful computer should solve the game and always win, but with some games such case is more unclear, and in the case of Snakes&Ladders, nobody can make any decision to have any kind of advantage (although a calculation may be possible to determine how much advantage the first player has) < 1457741311 222936 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1272 < 1457741321 825496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1272) b_jonas: Most esolangs I've seen have more comprehensive docs than make < 1457741368 543250 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '1272s/^/ (make is an esoteric language) /' quotes < 1457741376 206587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1457741379 50127 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1272 < 1457741381 348837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1272) (make is an esoteric language) b_jonas: Most esolangs I've seen have more comprehensive docs than make < 1457741441 447277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is make GNU make? I find info documentation quite useful and indeed comprehensive... < 1457741463 208127 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1457741473 818041 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he mispled comprehensible < 1457741476 277487 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to simulate a universe. < 1457741484 954500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1457741494 997587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: any opinions? < 1457741498 830618 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we're already doing that hth < 1457741506 224237 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just happen to be inside < 1457741521 968371 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, we didn't leave enough resources to recurse. < 1457741522 353023 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i have this data Foo = A | B | C deriving (Eq, Show) and i need to make something optional < 1457741558 225716 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i am soing data Bar = Optional Foo (Foo -> Bool) | Forced Foo < 1457741560 598888 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nigh-Impossible Challenge: Computer that can play Nomic < 1457741568 546634 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also your schemes seem to be escalating in a singularity < 1457741571 329500 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the optional wouöd breal both eq and show < 1457741577 966348 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would break < 1457741587 647914 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there any recourse in that situation? (there must be a better way to use this pun...) < 1457741604 869980 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to not use that "Forced" constrictor wi < 1457741615 232517 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without breaking eq/show? < 1457741629 66171 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, what the fuck. < 1457741636 486500 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the purpose of quantum physics? < 1457741646 157812 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1457741655 285228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: create a black hole before the world ends < 1457741660 849716 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even #esoteric justifies quantum physics. < 1457741661 319863 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's part of how that simulation saves resources hth < 1457741713 97599 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd is deeply disturbing < 1457741731 333499 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1457741744 608020 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the last line reminded me of the "twitch installs arch linux" episode < 1457741911 736578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what happened: some botnet took control, downloaded a Gentoo iso image, wrote it to /dev/sda and booted it... end of story) < 1457741949 651326 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same way docker wants to be installed < 1457741954 999277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because even with the bots it was hard to type long commands, they put the commands into a pastebin, then executed them < 1457741964 230044 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1457742032 211918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they ran the job in the background... because the first attempts were interrupted by ^C :-) ) < 1457742232 612529 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, stupid cloudflare. "Install and run [email protected]!" <-- I suspect this is SETI@home < 1457742298 298279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: http://twitchintheshell.com/ ... I have javascript disabled) < 1457742337 657390 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell prooftechnique If we do create one, I vote for måke as the name <-- only shachaf can make that one hth < 1457742337 796952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1457742389 910927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help < 1457742427 458528 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2016-03-11#172303prooftechnique < 1457742441 47583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing a pun < 1457742443 821333 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1457742468 395037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1457742477 474135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares to be antiswatted
< 1457742542 897097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on tdnh hth < 1457742551 401675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that i've been awake since 5 < 1457742555 466968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1457742640 249497 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/sketch/ < 1457742643 311315 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i recommend google translate < 1457742657 41893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1457742735 62682 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make a page for GNU Make? < 1457742740 289225 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the first version is < 1457742752 236523 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1457742923 625900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION antiswats shachaf. -----### a giant explosion occurs.
< 1457742968 319199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes supernovae
< 1457743092 698847 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess this was just an antimatter swatter < 1457743108 647711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly harmless < 1457743354 402931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the pun in måke again? < 1457743411 389601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily what does it mean to "expand int-e"? < 1457743411 568584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1457743444 740042 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: he meant the wisdom entry < 1457743477 188993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently boily's afraid of mixing languages. < 1457743512 570904 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1457743516 646163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. < 1457743539 843454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1457743540 963317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1457743611 89982 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor Gregor Gregor < 1457743611 229583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot seems to be dead/not-here < 1457743611 229685 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's here, but resting? < 1457743643 445091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what about you? < 1457743643 820007 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: os 9? that's, um, ' elucidating'? don't you find this amusing. who needs a desktop when you have 52 different fnord competing for the same thing. < 1457743645 361375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1457743645 500683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1457743656 412598 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... uh. < 1457743665 47746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsmack < 1457743665 186983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1457743725 880478 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457743743 967733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1457743859 250602 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's the pun in måke again? <-- you need to translate to hebrew hth < 1457743901 821064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nap time goodbye resting sleep mode activated... < 1457744081 747578 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, it's a norwegian/hebrew/#esoteric/make pun < 1457744154 426588 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, your chainlance repo is a mess. :( < 1457744653 269124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aware of that. < 1457744653 527841 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457744723 449068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anything in particular?) < 1457744808 106685 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1457744809 136987 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1457744836 799536 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uhm < 1457744841 205023 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand it < 1457744846 663156 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The web part needs Ruby? < 1457744863 366825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why would anyone be interested in the web part? It's horrible. < 1457744896 729019 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The visualization. < 1457744935 665860 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa JOIN :#esoteric < 1457744980 437141 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely this can be rewritten into static HTML < 1457744998 182700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what exactly you mean. < 1457745015 17790 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/bfjoust/vis/ < 1457745016 10701 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This part. < 1457745023 944643 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statically rendered into .html files with no dependency on Ruby < 1457745048 787998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, everything else than the json data files, sure. < 1457745072 749580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wasn't expecing anyone else to want to take the website, so I didn't feel any reason not to try out this nanoc thing. < 1457745106 297154 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need some kind of visualizer. :P < 1457745114 728457 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a perfect good one right there. < 1457745162 304164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. In theory, you can just take the "prerendered" one from the web, and replace the json files to change the contents. < 1457745174 219397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's anything dynamic baked in the generated HTML. < 1457745221 607500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that's not "perfectly good", it's very incomplete (if a lot flashier) compared to the old egostats stuff. < 1457745257 695269 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello my friends, how are you? < 1457745265 654267 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it missing? < 1457745291 996170 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1457745311 126436 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1457745312 903979 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just some analysis < 1457745317 223638 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose I can work on fixing that. < 1457745332 143632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the clustering stuff, at least. < 1457745350 496819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those used to be kind of interesting. < 1457745355 634407 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello my friends, how are you? you do? < 1457745387 234150 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman < 1457745462 428003 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido Lilly_Goodman < 1457745465 235525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1457745495 30411 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll work on it myself. :P < 1457745499 586761 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And PR at you < 1457745587 302161 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457745673 695232 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i had an idea the other day why so many people with canaima find their way here, and that maybe it's not really a mistake in their channel list after all < 1457745767 593584 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if canaima presents channels in a long alphabetical menu, then it's quite likely that #esoteric is, entirely naturally, the last entry just before the #espana / #espanol ones... < 1457745814 6122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it could just people searching for the latter, and then seeing us just above the first search hit < 1457745817 888271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just be < 1457746085 880238 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan you do? < 1457746106 614742 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: i wonder how you found us < 1457746115 745052 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people with canaima do, somehow < 1457746133 739860 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if we are not a spanish chat < 1457746151 520110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm waiting for the big Go game < 1457746155 814683 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1457746231 489676 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm < 1457746242 277288 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if i don't understand Go much either, but some here do < 1457746242 429423 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nop . < 1457746243 34856 :zemhill!~cinch@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nop: points -32.14, score 2.98, rank 47/47 < 1457746270 97720 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest parityscan (>)*9 ([(.)*-1]>>)*-1 < 1457746270 551628 :zemhill!~cinch@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.parityscan: points -34.00, score 2.25, rank 47/47 < 1457746290 828302 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad. < 1457746295 17024 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest parityscan (>)*8 ([(.)*-1]>>)*-1 < 1457746295 505348 :zemhill!~cinch@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.parityscan: points -34.14, score 2.28, rank 47/47 < 1457746315 715394 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :~2 point loss... < 1457746322 820267 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :In exchange for a super-fast poke < 1457746323 322254 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1457746330 714047 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest parityscan (>)*4 (+)*10 (>)*4 ([(.)*-1]>>)*-1 < 1457746331 271919 :zemhill!~cinch@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.parityscan: points -36.67, score 1.55, rank 47/47 < 1457746344 462674 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nop (>)*4 (+)*10 (>)*4 < 1457746344 908767 :zemhill!~cinch@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nop: points -33.90, score 2.33, rank 47/47 < 1457746349 247131 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if the game has been mentioned outside nerd forums, he tried the two top norwegian newspaper web pages yesterday and it wasn't mentioned on their front pages
< 1457746380 56928 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks bbc news
< 1457746402 973004 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Damn you! < 1457746479 647962 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, you were talking about Go < 1457746481 799903 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn me! < 1457746523 687655 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: as i said the other day, "the only way to win the Game is not to care" hth < 1457746531 415318 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paraphrased) < 1457746546 597157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which perhaps some nerds find unreasonably hard < 1457746552 660208 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@185.1.229.198.in-addr.arpa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1457746605 309013 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really a nerd sniping game, isn't it < 1457746622 36994 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fair enough < 1457746650 77537 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing on front page, checking tech... < 1457746679 446646 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It'll probably be some bullshit about AI < 1457746683 935023 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it is < 1457746709 745468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering a lot more situations are possible, including the only way to win the game is to concede!!! < 1457746718 355344 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect slightly better than average from bbc < 1457746744 629072 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Any ideas for GUTs for an esoverse off the top of your head? < 1457746791 208179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: No < 1457746845 265821 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How about off the bottom? Heads work like a deque, remember < 1457746855 961500 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'On Thursday, the Korea Times reported that locals had started calling AlphaGo "AI sabum" - or "master AI".' < 1457746880 592338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that either < 1457746887 217071 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1457747334 266923 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1457747433 616957 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457747570 992575 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ooh, details? (On conceding to win_ < 1457747571 633862 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1457747617 400130 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1457747626 365371 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1457747662 464954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.5 < 1457747737 704730 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1457747738 636888 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1457747758 528910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you're on a team with someone else, and [I didn't actually read the cards] there's a situation where conceding prevents you from having to do something that hurts a teammate? < 1457747764 240384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Lilly_Goodman < 1457747770 756782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1457747815 182767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, look for the text of the relevant cards (they aren't many), and see if it is of help to you < 1457747928 512642 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo and HackEgo thanks of the welcome < 1457748208 524254 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457748761 291120 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1457748847 777800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The "Finnish BBC" (Yle) had an article. < 1457748888 321550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this has been copyedited to be broken, possibly while updating it. < 1457748915 260423 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: this channel is sometimes silent < 1457748935 719760 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next game in 1:15 hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUAmTYHEyM8 < 1457748945 683235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a sentence that says (translated): "Alpha Go's advantage is that it never tires or gets worried, Hassabis." < 1457748957 185057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's supposed to be "-- Hassabis said/says". < 1457748980 643008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone keeps repeating the number-of-atoms-in-the-universe thing. < 1457749000 905873 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hassabisilla < 1457749026 251152 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: humans are bad with exponential growth mkay < 1457749084 882282 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( no please < 1457749093 370281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hassabis is the second, improved version of Hassa. (Compare the V.32, V.32bis modem standards.) < 1457749109 61326 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1457749195 241903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in the game of Pokemon card, a deck consisting of 1x Bulbasaur [Lv15] and 59 basic energy cards is guaranteed to win against a deck consisting of 1x Mewtwo [Lv53] and 59 basic energy cards. < 1457749251 665210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though the first deck in general is pretty bad, and in most cases the second deck is better.) < 1457749357 625320 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1457749390 473854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(An alternative to Bulbasaur [Lv.15] would be Weedle [Lv.15] and that works too.) < 1457749805 612146 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1457750102 773793 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457750265 880991 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1457750866 945025 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Yes? < 1457750910 784437 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chirp* < 1457750958 33394 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: :-/? < 1457751039 529495 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION calls an exterminator to eliminate our cricket problem
< 1457751047 309208 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, there should not be crickets indoors. < 1457751056 691669 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not indoors < 1457751068 123343 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just so silent we can hear through the walls < 1457751222 786744 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1457751307 33038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why are there no functional-logic languages that can run on bare metal? xD < 1457751318 85372 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because THAT would be practical, of course) < 1457752328 693622 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1457752341 92791 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I speak Spanish and English as I do not understand because I feel lonely and I do not have friends < 1457752643 775913 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181.34.28.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457752990 740919 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was interesting. < 1457753009 423588 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1457753035 862720 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1457753113 46790 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :I speak Spanish and English as I do not understand because I feel lonely and I do not have friends < 1457753585 129229 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1457753829 600271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i left the youtube channel open so i'd hear when it started but now they've got this annoying waiting music < 1457753924 475394 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ruins the whole point < 1457753943 657824 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have to turn it off < 1457754251 496145 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1457754265 614731 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now it'll start < 1457754278 964929 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUAmTYHEyM8 the go match < 1457754313 586140 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :man vs. machine < 1457754321 111680 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has begun < 1457754324 483013 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ok < 1457754326 65878 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1457754385 433399 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: most of us here are geeks, when we talk we talk about geeky stuff < 1457754552 923507 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :I speak spanish... < 1457754583 256334 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of us here do not speak spanish < 1457754666 916070 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :I no entiendo English < 1457754836 157075 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1457754846 989324 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Would you happen to be Venezuelan? If so, you've got the wrong channel < 1457754964 700129 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Venezuela speak spanish, no Engish < 1457754979 319852 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: In Venezuela speak spanish, no Engish < 1457754983 886537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: I saw < 1457754992 640800 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Um, let me try google translate < 1457755068 234843 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Este es un canal de programación informática para surrealistas, básicamente. Si estabas buscando algún otro tipo de elementos esotéricos, recomiendo probar #esoteric en DALnet. < 1457755074 612591 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no entiendo ney < 1457755107 988487 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we have a spanish translation already, you know < 1457755112 509802 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1457755120 469042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1457755123 585008 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, but I couldn't remember the command xD < 1457755140 576599 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we need `welcome_spanish? < 1457755159 556941 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: donde hablan español?? < 1457755168 12168 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego is a bot < 1457755172 906657 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: donde hablan español < 1457755175 947075 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: lo que no entiendes? < 1457755179 389308 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: No < 1457755188 404384 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: https://translate.google.com < 1457755212 221883 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to hand it to them on one point < 1457755215 38076 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been prompt every time < 1457755248 152993 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: y nadie habla español en esta pagina? < 1457755272 892595 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: Si < 1457755277 813893 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only spanish I know) < 1457755320 705091 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: y si yo hablo español y ustedes lo traducen a ingles, pueden? < 1457755335 513915 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lo que pasa es q estoy sola y sin amigos y nadie me quiere :-( < 1457755407 385474 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilly_Goodman: < 1457755407 667909 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parece que usted puede tener una depresión. Simplemente no han encontrado su gente, sin embargo, probablemente < 1457755427 341519 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No estoy capacitado para dar ayuda mental) < 1457755511 78234 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no quiero ayuda de depresion solo quiero saber si puede ser mi amigo? < 1457755565 655286 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bemvindo < 1457755567 813444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bemvindo: not found < 1457755575 605268 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lo q pasa es que me expulsaron de el #canaimasocial < 1457755576 836645 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no bemvindo? Shocking < 1457755591 16321 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pt < 1457755592 442826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.pt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1457755604 630019 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lo q pasa es que me expulsaron de el #canaima-social por decir perdon, que le parece eso? < 1457755627 329180 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome < 1457755628 558800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ） < 1457755700 381696 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :que es eso? < 1457756065 473243 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaima parece tranquilo. Usted debe tratar de senderismo. Usted puede hacer un montón de amigos durante una excursión. < 1457756091 5599 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :q fino gracias < 1457756756 693595 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :porque tan callados? < 1457757007 172222 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fines de semana son a menudo tranquilo aquí < 1457757155 709220 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ok entiendo y cuando es mas divertido aqui? < 1457757273 111217 :treaki__!~treaki@p54BF2DBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1457757509 106706 :treaki_!~treaki@p54BF2CC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1457757523 655545 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ok entiendo y cuando es mas divertido aqui? < 1457757815 415678 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1457758194 657729 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1457758473 467134 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1457758789 423954 :Lilly_Goodman!~canaima@181-17-32-129.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1457758920 882944 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to evaluate who's winning < 1457759240 23236 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you tell who's winning in a go match? < 1457759247 278765 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's a Hard Problem. < 1457759310 752181 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, that's why i asked a human instead of one of our bots < 1457759323 296564 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the commenters at the alphago challenge is a 9 dan professional player and the best he could do is to roughly guesstimate the score < 1457759481 484977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't know? < 1457759500 235203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could calculate the score from the current position but if the game is not finished it won't tell you who is winning. < 1457759549 152754 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluating the strength of a position in Go is not just hard for computers, it's hard in general. < 1457759799 218782 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1457759818 101778 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually, that's good < 1457760015 388626 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somewhat annoying for the spectator < 1457760086 120490 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you tell who's winning in chess? < 1457760546 37085 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think yoyu count how many pieces they have left and which kinds < 1457760586 565508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can do that in chess at least, which provides some more easily estimate I suppose < 1457760725 971933 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1457760815 671741 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1457760866 256984 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoren < 1457760893 584066 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching α碁? < 1457760920 76906 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1457761041 364126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why did it take the computer a minute and a half at the beginning of the game to respond to what seems like a very obvious opening move that you could precompute the response to? < 1457761137 814179 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ran /bin/alphago --suspense=7 < 1457761175 646476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iiuc the computer doesn't have any opening book < 1457761182 816143 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1457762542 335145 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? iiuc < 1457762548 893790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1457762699 249907 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn iiuc i understand iiuc correctly < 1457762703 426631 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn iiuc i understand iiuc correctly. < 1457762706 227618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'iiuc': iiuc i understand iiuc correctly < 1457762708 989052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'iiuc': iiuc i understand iiuc correctly. < 1457762955 251907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1457762956 505254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing can only do so much. < 1457762969 498280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Testing can do so much < 1457762974 14357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'testing': Testing can do so much < 1457762982 987365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/$/./ < 1457762991 6088 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1457763003 145065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe it should cat lastfiles too. < 1457763007 41113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1457763008 360263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing can do so much. < 1457763021 624744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFINTELYI < 1457763214 854273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1457763215 509770 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -i "$1" "$(lastfiles)" < 1457763223 618035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastfiles < 1457763224 444912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log -l 1 --template "{files}\n" < 1457763229 833953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1457763240 236730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorcery and witchcraft < 1457763796 403234 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457763802 566214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does alphago manage time anyway? is it always taking 1:30 minutes (decreasing slowly) per move or is it "taking time to think" sometimes, playing obvious moves more quickly? < 1457763806 894758 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's safe now < 1457763891 247896 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, after an exciting fight starting in the top left corner, it looks like alphago stands quite a bit better already. too bad. < 1457763901 696827 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: :P < 1457763905 866934 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1457763927 606890 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had some idea earlier I'm now trying to remember xD < 1457764136 488364 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@131.104.23.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457764160 39549 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@131.104.23.7 NICK :Guest55048 < 1457764196 375587 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language based on nothing but arrows and brackets (asciicized) < 1457764245 5612 :Guest55048!~sprocklem@131.104.23.7 QUIT :Changing host < 1457764245 144925 :Guest55048!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1457764317 265134 :Guest55048!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1457764324 274553 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1457765991 972205 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1457766209 66460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... final fight < 1457767304 157620 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lee on overtime again < 1457767355 118228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, last ditch effort, a fight he cannot hope to win < 1457767372 435245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's admirably fighting spirit though... and a great show for spectators < 1457767396 100108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, if that group at the bottom lives, then that would turn the game around < 1457767407 379636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't see it. < 1457767483 788423 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit I'm really weak at Go strategy, but I agree. < 1457767679 592342 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@131.104.23.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457767703 47465 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@131.104.23.11 NICK :Guest91351 < 1457767714 448457 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1457767859 591958 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1457768243 936697 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1457768784 825436 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a fast move by alphago < 1457769457 872245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many kos on board... I guess we get to find out whether alphago has inherited the monte carlo bot's weaknesses in that area < 1457769463 70495 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err bots' < 1457769480 534723 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1457770081 276536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haiku < 1457770092 300784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀨や⛄ < 1457770098 676651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote HIRAGANA < 1457770100 625191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1260) MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN / HIRAGANA LETTER YA / SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1457770422 446476 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :over < 1457770472 910934 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🀨や⛄ < 1457770474 348697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F028 MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN] [U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] < 1457770724 715335 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode -– < 1457770725 494935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] [U+2013 EN DASH] < 1457772068 275133 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1457772073 149464 :yorick__!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1457772241 627229 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1457772693 724924 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1457772798 68438 :yorick__!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457773954 980036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1457775906 983973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It definitely played some "forced" moves very quickly. < 1457775919 281022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "very" -- not as quickly as a human, but noticeably faster than others. < 1457775962 320234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure someone's already plotted the timing. < 1457776026 721542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/22zZDSZ.png < 1457776041 24322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks, r/dataisbeautiful.) < 1457776065 992625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for the first match, but it's clearly different from the human. < 1457776084 568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for turn 52. < 1457776189 517669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intro-to-AI course tournament I keep mentioning every now and then allocated 1 hour of (single-thread) CPU time to each participant, and watching how they manage time was kind of interesting. < 1457776251 117893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For each bot, my result page plots included a graph of turn/cumulative time used, with one line for each game they played, and colored according to win/tie/loss. < 1457776259 379698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The results were nicely distinctive. < 1457776345 548382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/ai2012/img/cpu_ajeeb.png <- there's one example, where the bot clearly has three separate strategies depending on how much time it has left. < 1457776398 413358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess the first turning point could also depend on how many moves it has made -- the games are so grouped initially, it's hard to tell. < 1457776537 454059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's an obvious "start going fast when you have only 100 seconds left" mode, and also a faster-than-midgame opening mode, which might last either for the first 300 seconds or 40 moves. And those changes are so abrupt, it's clearly a programmed-in feature. < 1457776556 372395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whereas the general sloping rightwards is probably just a consequence of positions getting simpler.) < 1457776576 462256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/ai2012/details.xhtml has same plots for all the 2012 participants. < 1457776679 149353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I haven't worked for the ICS department for the last three years, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to clean my personal web directory.) < 1457776826 753162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/ai2012/img/cpu_justice.png and this one on the other hand clearly has some sort of a gradually decreasing time-per-turn thing. < 1457776855 86744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The occasional flat horizontal lines are probably because the game in question has some situations where there's only one legal move.) < 1457776893 475544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy monologue, Batman. < 1457777411 162849 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:2916:9c5e:848f:a840 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457779129 321144 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1457780434 12217 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:2916:9c5e:848f:a840 QUIT :Quit: lel wait a sec < 1457782332 363800 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1457782339 647214 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457782586 582550 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b9c6:933d:745e:b708 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457783435 552600 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuh < 1457783445 295800 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can you paste your test/reference.out < 1457783463 532568 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the chainlance repo. < 1457783471 619315 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure something's wrong with my nodejs < 1457783476 936333 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm getting lines like ">>><<<<<<<<< "eulav$" ohce ;"denraeL"=brev || "denraeleR"=brev && ] "yek$/modsiw" e- [ ;"}pes$*#1{$"=eulav ;")esacrewol | "}*pes$%%1{$" ohce($"=yek ;1 tixe || ]] *"pes$"*? == "1$" [[ ;"//"=pes && ]] *//* == "0$" [[ ;"/"=pes < 1457783786 99830 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ reverses a file < 1457786794 408364 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: interesting tournament, thanks; what game is that? < 1457786858 896485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"World Journal of Research and Review", yay, sounds legitimate < 1457787054 588932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few days ago one of these spams promised a "blind peer review" within 4 days; I found that refreshingly honest. < 1457787096 117868 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1457787117 382999 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that one really looks like a paper" < 1457787133 308088 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: no looking, just feel it! < 1457787156 703412 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only a matter of time before you can publish scigen stuff in nature < 1457787590 355777 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they playing 5 games anyway even if lee already lost 3? < 1457788471 979161 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yes < 1457788495 324347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: and lee can still earn a bonus if he wins ($20k or so?) < 1457788839 95464 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i've just read it on wikipedia < 1457788842 373690 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :20k per win < 1457788854 421353 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ 150k if he plays all 5 games < 1457789352 495131 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b9c6:933d:745e:b708 QUIT :Quit: [reboot] < 1457790568 790926 :jaboja!~jaboja@emf122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457791109 742764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize that Moody has lost an eye, a leg, and much of his nose and doesn't have them back. However, given the above I think that's probably because he lost them to Dark Magic, being an Auror who fought Death Eaters. < 1457791122 551687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, sorry, mispaste < 1457791130 583076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1457791139 146634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory/To be theory is to be like a theorem, but inferior. < 1457791636 966290 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457791843 809560 :jaboja!~jaboja@emf122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457791921 930907 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1457792174 967921 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1457792334 333479 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1457792844 312929 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457792917 622128 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:ac88:f162:c2af:741e JOIN :#esoteric < 1457793347 332698 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1457793663 333697 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457793795 358208 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1457794629 341788 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457795329 184002 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-114-166.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1457796568 939492 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1457796569 110547 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1457796605 94455 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-008-107.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1457796643 837142 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457797484 237249 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-114-166.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1457797944 974316 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457798015 793128 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now crunching a 9000x9000 BF Joust hill. < 1457798025 131497 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope my laptop doesn't overheat. < 1457798457 874881 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457798889 260339 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.7G ./run/evaluation_tmp < 1457798890 100541 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy < 1457798903 806419 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think wrenchlance would use so much disk space. < 1457799026 242246 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799110 48183 :jameseb-!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799138 653399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 43584 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 177197 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tsswuvdhbntvxenf QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 177295 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 394530 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 528093 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799139 661665 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1457799142 277409 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799144 243831 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799152 539786 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1457799152 673247 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxhlmzcmtbyurkwl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799191 602281 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799207 451688 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799207 622684 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me QUIT :Changing host < 1457799207 622748 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1457799982 533753 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457800833 863420 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-107.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1457802065 807696 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-148.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1457802358 329671 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a new code editor < 1457802393 460537 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will use advanced Unicode characters to have a cool interface < 1457802546 578087 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using ▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█ to make a scrollbar showing where you are in the file < 1457802843 963403 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1457803169 814013 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457803312 386348 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1457803338 135506 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python's multiprocessing library is a little arbitary sometimes. ^.^; < 1457803365 918697 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of syntax, semantics, API? < 1457803469 345 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i thought about something similar, too, but i am too comfortable using vim < 1457803478 328150 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1457803836 367784 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :However it distributes work. < 1457803841 788480 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's letting cores go inactive for minutes at a time. < 1457803865 368052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1457803943 683304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :prevents overheating :P < 1457804028 201373 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :~800/9000 done. \o/ < 1457804041 139552 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound so bad < 1457804056 180000 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 minutes so far? < 1457804071 436098 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 1 and a half hour, yeah. < 1457804077 208788 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'll get faster near the end. < 1457804082 224996 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there's less matchups left per program < 1457804123 919921 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory usage's wtf though. < 1457804262 171532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1457804423 303701 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:ac88:f162:c2af:741e QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1457804456 235646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1457804456 369081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1457804489 337789 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1457804778 738856 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: reference.out: http://sprunge.us/ZdCL < 1457804820 840802 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it already < 1457804837 491997 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Lymia/chainlance/commit/0316061c60ffbe577131805ea92199eac9e488b7 < 1457804889 355700 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't even know/notice it had something like that. < 1457804912 469773 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I've never had it trip. < 1457804916 821676 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie NICK :fizzie < 1457804961 139632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The game's called "Hierarchy" (Hierarkia); it was made by a Finnish chess I-don't-know-which-title, who originally wanted to make it an actual board game, but that never went anywhere; he then donated it for the course. < 1457804987 83742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: We used it to make it a bit less probable people just submitted code they copy-pasted from someone's chess program. < 1457805012 660574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also got a little bit higher branching factor, but it's no Go. < 1457805027 777400 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457805067 990529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rule page has 404d. < 1457805243 411723 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop's CPU doesn't have the greatest clock speed, so. < 1457805305 97215 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the greatest single-threaded preformance. < 1457805499 702539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, what the: someone's made a copy of the page. < 1457805528 635098 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1457805565 183948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.cs.hut.fi/~framling/hierarkia/ here you go. (The Scheme stuff was no longer in use when I was running the thing.) < 1457805572 300434 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Lymia/chainlance/blob/master/wrenchlance-stub.c < 1457805573 509249 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1457805581 997623 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I'm doing right now, and it seems to work pretty well. < 1457805715 697888 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-008-148.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1457805879 554936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1457805906 538135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made by this guy: http://www.chessgames.com/player/jyrki_parkkinen.html < 1457807061 715450 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1457807096 942684 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm turning down the split size for the parmap next time. < 1457807103 841186 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it doesn't end up putting 3 cores idle < 1457807390 58632 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The things I do for neural nets. < 1457807416 128977 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently CUDA doesn't actually support Debian or something. Ubuntu, but not Debian. < 1457807428 897946 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, of course, running Debian. < 1457807436 919486 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1457807441 85271 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there nothing running < 1457807455 406652 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1457807481 154147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457807487 751620 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have 4 cores, should you not tell it to have 4 threads? < 1457807507 34102 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... this is a little tricky to do. CUDA wants packages that don't exist on Debian. < 1457807514 766385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, threads, unlike processes, use shared-memory concurrency < 1457807525 728604 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that just my instinct < 1457807550 100198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a lot of the sharing is actually used, it might be inefficient to run the threads on different processors due to all the synchronization that has to take place between the processors < 1457807571 433898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH if the threads are mostly independent then you could run 4 with no problems, and might or might not benefit from more depending on the properties of the scheduler < 1457807572 297075 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did tell it to use 4 threads. < 1457807576 48788 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not. < 1457807576 225845 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the number of cores is the limit of actual concurrency that you can do, right? < 1457807612 165278 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have literally 0 dependence between cores. < 1457807631 924506 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why not use an actual fork instead of threads < 1457807656 647245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can get more concurrency if the threads are using completely different parts of the computer < 1457807677 110625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if one thread is using the memory bus, it can reasonably act in pseudo-parallel with another thread on the same CPU that's just doing arithmetic < 1457807701 158254 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh? < 1457807702 726902 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should I < 1457807737 311720 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I rather deal with distributing work between multiple independent processes when it's already hard enough when that's done with shared memory and threads. < 1457807742 967458 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :What benefit do I derive from that. < 1457807778 358199 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the processes will actually run on separeate cpus? < 1457807824 592424 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you should stop being so presumptuous about what the problem is. :/ < 1457807851 6139 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i thought the problem was that on;ly one cpu core was bing used? < 1457807851 315239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the problem is, but I think my advice is reasonable so far < 1457807868 775060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the threads are completely independent, then the correct number to use will be comparable to the number of CPUs, possibly a little more < 1457807900 112617 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your advice is thoroughly off base? How many wrong things did you assume. Let's see. < 1457807949 398063 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :First of all, Python already uses multiple processes because it has that dumb global interpreter lock. < 1457807981 411191 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second of all, even if I wasn't, the threads would only be spinning off external processes anyway then doing a little parsing on the output. I'm only using its multiprocessing library at all because it splits the workload for me. < 1457808014 32880 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third of all, the problem isn't even that, for some reason, I have 4 threads that decided to run on one core. That doesn't even make much sense on Linux, where threads are much like processes to the scheduler anyway in the first place. < 1457808015 179875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: This must be about something like a more modern version of CUDA? Because there are CUDA packages right there in the Debian repository. < 1457808034 478690 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that for some reason multiprocessing's work distribution is not running and letting threads in the thread pool sit idle for minutes at a time. < 1457808036 627685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got nvidia-cuda-dev 6.5.19-3 installed. < 1457808053 31215 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457808166 160480 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uhhh, you have? Lemme see that. < 1457808184 162365 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ideal solution would really be to wait asynchronously in one thread in the Python code. < 1457808192 484957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://packages.debian.org/jessie/nvidia-cuda-dev < 1457808197 676760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's non-free, of course. < 1457808201 223671 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no library code for that, and I'd need to write it out on my on. < 1457808202 386852 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :own* < 1457808210 483834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that's 6.0.37-5 because jessie.) < 1457808276 335190 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have nvidia-alternative installed? < 1457808290 334466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, I think "nvidia-cuda-toolkit" is maybe the more topper-level package.) < 1457808298 942264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1457808317 237635 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What version? I'm trying to install 340.96-1 and it says it can't find it. < 1457808362 358963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 352.79-1, but this is also something like stretch or sid, I forget what exactly. < 1457808399 613306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :stretch has a higher-priority pin, so technically that, I guess. < 1457808584 114412 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see if doing random things with aptitude will fix the problem. < 1457808590 431224 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without also creating even worse problems. < 1457808651 777284 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like aptitude keeps saying "I can't install that thing you asked me to install, but I can uninstall a whole bunch of other stuff instead." < 1457808835 798519 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457808840 911938 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes if you uninstall everything (for a given value of "everything") and reinstall, it fixes the dependency tree < 1457808888 199032 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it looks like it actually did manage to install it. < 1457808958 196731 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457809002 650041 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptitude is annoyingly intolerant of badly written packages < 1457809109 264101 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally, it shouldn't be possible for a package with wrong dependencies to screw up other, correctly made packages, but that doesn't seem to be the case < 1457809359 716872 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What shortcut should be "save"? < 1457809367 503310 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking control-S < 1457809378 942665 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nano uses control-O < 1457809394 32246 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for some reason < 1457809479 908523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :F2 < 1457809506 314146 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-Q and C-S are occasionally used for XON and XOFF, right? < 1457809521 455087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1457809528 814785 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's a good idea, since it's one keypress < 1457809652 474649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ctrl-S is vulnerable to potentially really major terminal misparses < 1457809656 615162 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning on having a "hint bar" like nano < 1457809680 486869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want to use it as a keybinding in a terminal-based program, you'd better be really confident in your ability to configure the terminal correctly < 1457809691 718243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nano mocks you for pressing Ctrl-S for this reason (in cases where it's parsed correctly) < 1457809699 664765 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the F keys generally safe? < 1457809744 990145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F1-F5 are vulnerable to ambiguities < 1457809747 357393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the others are safe < 1457809785 144507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is because F1-F5 aren't sent to the application at all on an actual VT100, so people had to invent codes for them; some of the invented codes are used for other keys that actually did exist on a VT100 but not on a PC keyboard, but in an inconsistent way) < 1457809837 66789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem here being that the question when things like xterm were originally ported to PC-like keyboard layouts was not "how do I tell the program what keys on a PC keyboard are being pressed", but "how do I allow the user to use this program, which was designed for a VT100, on a PC keyboard" < 1457809878 783053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example, in practice there are two codes you're likely to see for F1, one is unambiguously F1, the other is ambiguous with Num Lock < 1457809972 724903 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptitude's suggestions can seem kinda cheeky sometimes. < 1457809990 447240 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey aptitude, I want you to install this package, version 6.5." "All right, how about if I don't install it instead?" < 1457810006 17825 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, you need to actually install it." "All right, how about if I install version 6.0 instead?" < 1457810030 791980 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, it needs to be version 6.5." "Oh, why didn't you say so?" < 1457810126 214768 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1457810522 999716 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457810583 440356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I have had problem like that but found out ways to resolve it by manually specifying version of packages in different orders and then it won't say there is a conflict < 1457810625 382279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1457810635 61647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457811616 983252 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 NICK :digitalcold < 1457811851 715236 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to reboot and see if X still works! < 1457811880 851623 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1457811976 174671 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1457812002 272461 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1457812007 696978 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reading 347M of data every round < 1457812017 119467 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine that being good for efficiency < 1457812152 93856 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on the other hand < 1457812159 924545 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't want to give a shot at concurrency in c < 1457812281 674324 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they make SATA power extension cables? < 1457812284 465922 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to finish my string and array libraries before I can implement this < 1457812307 603664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I was trying to work out if it'd be possible to run this sort of thing on a GPU < 1457812311 831387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the answer is "not efficiently" < 1457812315 314085 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like they certainly do. < 1457812327 665430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see any way to make BF Joust data-parallel across warps < 1457812339 142530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is needed or you're only using about 1/32 of the GPU's power < 1457812405 523961 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer is no, X does not still work. < 1457812412 58534 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: do you have a giant computer case or something? < 1457812459 369365 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but... < 1457812473 830960 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to hook up five SATA devices: four hard drives and one optical drive. < 1457812489 297315 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My PSU, as far as I can see, has two SATA power cables, one with two connectors and one with three connectors. < 1457812537 792503 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1457812541 699705 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the optical drive is too far away from the hard drives for a single SATA power cable to supply both drives. < 1457812592 358250 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, would it just be stupid to put ahard disk in one of the optical drive bays? < 1457812607 253664 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you have more than one < 1457812630 714865 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got three or four optical drive bays. But those are bigger. < 1457812638 784534 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1457812676 552065 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And presumably I could get some sort of adapter so I can fit a hard drive in an optical bay, but that sounds harder than just getting an extension cable. < 1457812677 255272 :jaboja64!~jaboja@ejp122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457812687 281557 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are you afraid of leaving something not securely screwed into a bay? < 1457812868 711206 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had an extra psu jammedinto an optical bay on his old computer
< 1457812991 116402 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you have your computer mounted in gimbals? < 1457813039 168886 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. this was the computer that I left open with a cardboard manifold connecting it to a big room fan < 1457813065 925884 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus pressurizing the case, sort of < 1457813112 729013 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what of you actually kept the air pressure higher inside a computer? < 1457813196 43520 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1457813328 846884 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think theoretically, it woudl increase the rate at which temperature exchages with the air < 1457813355 416191 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was thinking about running multiple instructions at onec. < 1457813356 678315 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :once* < 1457813371 808378 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many conditions in BF Joust when the two opposing programs are "non-interacting", so to speak. < 1457813385 214634 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, let me try to get X working again. < 1457813386 885416 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, when they're on different cells entirely, or the cell they're both on is 128 < 1457813397 751813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: good point < 1457813415 885028 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has definitely happened to me before. < 1457813416 180895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually one thing you could to is check the number of cycles before a program goes past the fifth cell < 1457813420 653861 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a torquelance style compilation with serious optimization involved. < 1457813433 412592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just start at that location < 1457813484 39395 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1457813607 269614 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also detect when both programs are doing [+] (with various numbers of +'s) on the same cell, and make a lookup table of the outcomes? < 1457813665 587188 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's too many possibilities.... < 1457813826 929572 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The approach I was thinking would be splitting every part of the program into two "segments", kinda. < 1457813860 632128 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many cycles I can run in one/few instructions in a row" < 1457813871 926425 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Execute x cycles, which may be the previous value, or less than such" < 1457813999 730229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, at any moment both programs are in an inner loop < 1457814010 989647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably do some sort of optimization on it < 1457814018 93282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via calculating the outcome in advance < 1457814035 166290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help a lot because [-] loops are very common < 1457814546 989822 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, the nouveau module is not loaded. So I just need to make it so that the other module is loaded? And what module would that be, exactly? < 1457814774 675384 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I need to install nvidia-driver. < 1457814869 288349 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go, now it's working. < 1457814892 870218 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see if I can train a neural net of size SIXTEEN FUCKING HUNDRED. < 1457814898 508538 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: PROBABLY FUCKING NOT.) < 1457814928 866002 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1457815072 361176 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can do one of size 1300. Wow. < 1457815156 597453 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can even do one of size 1500. I wasn't expecting that. < 1457816842 814370 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Minebit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46588&oldid=46256 5* 03Erinius 5* (+34) 10 < 1457817713 75271 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh, my computer's graphics aren't working too hot. < 1457817883 485567 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why are you running X at the same time as this? < 1457817950 385334 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what graphics card? < 1457817951 69679 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good question. < 1457817971 401209 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a GT 430. < 1457818018 620436 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm okay, probably better than any of mine < 1457818019 152598 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1457818048 171928 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I tried to do anything on a GPU, my cpus were faster by about an order of magnitude :/ < 1457818135 141089 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. Released in 2010 at $79. 40 nanometer fab. 1 GB memory. 269 gigaflops. < 1457818185 796228 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme compare that to something a little more modern. < 1457818248 298057 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GTX 950. Released in 2015 at $159. 28 nanometer fab. 4 GB memory. 1573 gigaflops. < 1457818258 813537 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot floppier. < 1457818550 290441 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :very floppy, though not as much as some of my 8 inch wangs :P < 1457818553 322117 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://siarchives.si.edu/wp3/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/newwang.jpg < 1457818593 147128 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1457818900 413198 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :1600? < 1457818903 63335 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, like, tiny < 1457819111 7239 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :double density... expensive stuff < 1457819275 990218 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are floppy disks good for anything nowadays < 1457819332 700303 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect there's legacy hardware in the industry that still uses them < 1457819407 203583 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been using them a bit to get a 286 onto the internet, but for practical purposes no < 1457819521 634326 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1457819614 55766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457819739 538614 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457820348 675348 :hydraz!~demhydraz@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :thetypo < 1457820353 398090 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe NICK :norrti < 1457820364 530011 :norrti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe NICK :nortti < 1457820379 983811 :thetypo!~demhydraz@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :hidraz < 1457820423 358269 :hidraz!~demhydraz@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :hydraz < 1457820519 397980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When playing causal constructed Magic: the Gathering with friends, if I offer the people sweets like bonbons or assorted wafers or jelly beans, is it usually considered bad form to offer a selection with more than four copies of any one type of bonbon or wafer or jelly bean? < 1457820671 145012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457820671 366794 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't those be counters... < 1457820699 182901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, they'd make the cards dirty. < 1457820713 778036 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, ais523 < 1457820714 803386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Player counters, of course. < 1457820720 323488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1457820722 754007 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heh, that might work < 1457820726 766996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully you don't offer poison counters, though. < 1457820739 912334 :hydraz!~demhydraz@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :thetypo < 1457820744 86109 :thetypo!~demhydraz@unaffiliated/demhydraz NICK :hydraz < 1457820750 982017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, how many other named player counters are there even? < 1457820951 698299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: about that machine that only accesses a limited set of stacks, I think it's actually possible to do symbol table translation too efficiently, only you have to do it on the whole file and all symbols together, rather than incrementally < 1457820965 86870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I guess I don't know of any others < 1457820973 166580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, it's definitely a different syle of programming < 1457820992 302981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw programs written in this style might work more efficiently even on regular CPUs < 1457820997 908482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: however, you brought up this machine because it would get rid of all aliasing problems, but you don't really need just stacks for that < 1457821010 586468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not just aliasing, cacheing too < 1457821017 899712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was originally invented to get rid of cache stalls < 1457821028 255650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also to satisfy hppavilion[1]-like thinking of "let's be different for the sake of it" < 1457821120 682456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I see. I like the model of a pointer machine (with a fixed finite size of registers) that accesses trees with *immutable* nodes and can create new nodes, decide whether a node is null, and access the children of nodes, and its core is finite state. < 1457821164 917716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this garbage-collected? < 1457821197 275699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: presumably anything that's not accessible from the root anymore would be collected. < 1457821209 85090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean hardware-wise < 1457821262 750713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, it's not really a specific hardware thing, just a theoretical model. hardware implementations typically have more complicated rules to be optimized, which are useful for real world programming, such as built-in fixed integer arithmetic. < 1457822638 428581 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xenon is overpowered < 1457822730 489116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1457822739 553692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1457822859 143973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I found out about two cards in older sets that seem to be in the wrong color if you apply the modern color pie. There's an instant for {W} and an instant for {G} that untaps a target permanent, and the latter even has more options than that. < 1457822911 895154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days that's exclusively blue, with Dream's Grip doing this. < 1457822966 724003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :White can untap creatures, green can untap lands or specific creatures that have a self-untap ability, and then there's Magewright Stone. < 1457822989 727301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ight S/ight's S/ < 1457823952 87134 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1457824042 659135 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-008-148.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1457824050 214615 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-004-081-022.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1457824099 846573 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-148.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1457824740 300229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that with standard cards a player might have poison counters and experience counters; with a custom card I made up it is possible for a player to have any kind of counter. < 1457825056 245764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know of others but you can tell me if there is; maybe I forgot some?) < 1457825190 704560 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1457825955 597693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to shorten the kitchen sink picture posted here yesterday because it was previously too long and it should be maximum 16x16 like the standard X cursor font is < 1457825965 935497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did fix it though.) < 1457826337 824656 :asie!~asie@asie.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1457826339 562423 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi < 1457826345 58992 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, font design? < 1457826367 338538 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1457826385 706655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes some people on here have designed other fonts < 1457826427 713935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I also did a supplementary X cursor font and a new character encoding too (which requires new font to go with it though) < 1457826666 909713 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :esofont < 1457826690 342150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie: the 1×5 font is pretty eso < 1457826703 688480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses subpixel antialiasing; it's actually readable if you get really close to the screen < 1457826706 244333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if oddly coloured