< 1455321617 848435 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery brainfuck < 1455321618 860201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created to make the smallest possible compiler for a Turing-complete language. To do this, it was designed to be extremely minimalistic- which it accomplishes, with a total of eight (8) zero-argument procedural instructions. It is what introduces many people to esolangs, spawning a vast number of deriva < 1455321627 55295 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FALE < 1455321648 292402 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1455322130 608630 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455322138 377652 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Quit: LexiciScriptor < 1455322243 23281 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455322354 719857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to golf the description a bit < 1455322363 445456 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455322977 603250 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455323402 901196 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: NUUUUUUUUUUU < 1455323408 792326 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, probably < 1455323456 993602 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mislearn brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created to make the smallest possible compiler for a Turing-complete language. It is what introduces many people to esolangs, spawning a vast number of derivatives that we pretty much all despise. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1455323459 716563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was lied to about 'brainfuck': brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created to make the smallest possible compiler for a Turing-complete language. It is what introduces many people to esolangs, spawning a vast number of derivatives that we pretty much all despise. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1455323466 94626 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery brainfuck < 1455323467 73980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created to make the smallest possible compiler for a Turing-complete language. It is what introduces many people to esolangs, spawning a vast number of derivatives that we pretty much all despise. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1455323477 623207 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There, cut out a sentence < 1455323889 684690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the next question is, how many #esoteric denizens don't know what brainfuck is? < 1455323955 340863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently hppavilion[1] didn't until recently. < 1455323977 891327 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that was hth < 1455323985 725357 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's more for newbies < 1455323991 457859 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455323992 433445 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, for consistency < 1455323994 572952 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1455323995 851832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. < 1455324007 8021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking that it might be useful for new people < 1455324008 807462 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455324017 912845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then, many people come here from the wiki < 1455324030 948971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't really read the wiki for long without stumbling across a BF derivative < 1455324041 990707 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, I figured as much < 1455324042 561543 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can confirm < 1455324043 660181 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1455324048 452815 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: Hi! < 1455324051 845179 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got here from the wiki, it's a lot of bf < 1455324058 301521 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome < 1455324061 27368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1455324063 419184 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome slackerSnail < 1455324065 320328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02slackerSnail: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1455324070 577373 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go :) < 1455324076 997061 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah so I just wrote a 3var-to-SmileBASIC compiler < 1455324084 588968 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a compiler < 1455324090 621929 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool! < 1455324101 864249 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: I've been working towards making a compiler for a while now. < 1455324133 352124 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if any of you have SmileBASIC (which is unlikely let's be honest) https://smilebasicsource.com/page?pid=299 < 1455324147 402914 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't just come here to advertise lol < 1455324149 539464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I was confusing 3var with something else < 1455324158 588889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how compatible is SmileBASIC with other basics? < 1455324177 416562 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to describe it to people as a "modern spin on BASIC" < 1455324181 680449 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not entirely compatible < 1455324182 857248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are you using unbounded integers or just normal integers? languages like 3var rely on the integers being unbounded to run anything but trivial prgorams < 1455324186 177828 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather game-centric < 1455324197 785927 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. sint32, what SB supports < 1455324217 200824 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be doubles but it seemed like everyone else used integer division < 1455324217 343212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a normal bounded integer < 1455324222 513996 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: Ah, not very useful then < 1455324224 810394 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still cool < 1455324233 918892 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Godel numbering is generally a good thing) < 1455324244 809377 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even figure out fibonacci sequence on it :P < 1455324245 394351 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Generally.) < 1455324251 353091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubles are also bounded; the bounds are much larger than with an integer, /but/ if you go too far out of the integer range, they start becoming inaccurate < 1455324258 180422 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I figured < 1455324261 354784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and using approximations < 1455324276 714791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is actually what "floating-point" means (that the accuracy changes along with the number) < 1455324276 857185 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could construct some kind of unbounded integer implementation in SB with strings and VAL < 1455324280 509653 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm trying to figure out a joke for when Godel Numbering is bad xD < 1455324281 575814 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1455324293 980724 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you shouldn't use Godel Numbering to add? Maybe? < 1455324318 763483 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SmileBASIC is a 3DS app if you don't know so yeah < 1455324319 880487 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: It's preferable to do something with the carry flag if it's available to you < 1455324325 130203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: I noticed xD < 1455324328 916532 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot of people know about it < 1455324341 33079 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came out October 15th last year < 1455324350 407895 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :small Japanese production < 1455324363 538121 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course Japan got it nearly a year before :) < 1455324370 203909 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: I'm attempting to make a game console (emulated) :) < 1455324384 603020 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, sounds neat < 1455324410 637167 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SB chat (which I'm usually in) is so dead rn < 1455324420 361776 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought I'd pop in here because boredom < 1455324461 68890 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but enough about me < 1455324496 342449 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: A RISCy move coming here. < 1455324511 156974 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun < 1455324516 611340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that pun became stale a while back < 1455324525 927539 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, yes it did. < 1455324538 831084 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Feel free to change the topic if you have any better ideas < 1455324561 496896 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (also, slackerSnail hasn't seen it yet, so it isn't stale for them) < 1455324566 879477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could always go back to the "the international hub…" topic < 1455324576 652080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the standard in this channel for years < 1455324583 18492 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: True, true < 1455324590 270945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -R 'international hub' . < 1455324616 899171 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you killed HackEgo. < 1455324622 579782 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mourn HackEgo < 1455324627 319881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455324628 685492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, poor HackEgo, I knew him well! < 1455324630 974476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, -r and -R are technically different < 1455324639 418490 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, that command actually works < 1455324642 836152 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that xD < 1455324653 394118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, in retrospect my command seemed likely to hit timeout < 1455324655 584583 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, IIRC one only does colour escapes and the other all escapes or something? < 1455324664 460164 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always go with -R, which I think is the one that interprets more sequences < 1455324668 356771 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1455324677 247733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... >.> I was thinkig of less -r -R < 1455324692 496952 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455324694 600112 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: So how do you like esolangs so far? < 1455324710 972318 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, looked it up for grep. That's interesting < 1455324723 943040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1455324768 683154 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: That's just zzo38, one of our resident bots < 1455324774 73805 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455324793 856317 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote like a Befunge interpreter for Petit Computer (SB's predecessor) like a year ago < 1455324799 106869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 isn't a bot < 1455324800 691930 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1455324803 26547 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Shush < 1455324806 852125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I don't think so < 1455324816 495835 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never finished it; PTC was very much un-modern BASIC so the code was virtually un-maintainable < 1455324819 488113 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: I've always liked befunge :) < 1455324820 80298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] also isn't a bot, but is somewhat overenthusiastic < 1455324827 314327 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1455324833 194798 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's to hide my constant agony < 1455324834 352633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: show off < 1455324835 117587 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, i do wish to make one final comment to make on amendments nos 3, 12, 14, 23, 25, 27 and 31, which we have had the subsequent incidents involving the expulsion, or attempted expulsion, of illegal immigrants based on the gas directive. it seems to me to go away. for a very long history, deals with the specific participation of young farmers. < 1455324845 92011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is written in Funge-98 < 1455324845 425950 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i shall make two points: patent protection and homeopathic medicinal products. before i go on to make the whole system. thirdly, starch potato producers have had to debate this serious issue. < 1455324851 706283 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to introduce the Funge-98 features but the code was so much spaghetti < 1455324868 915866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pretty much have to restart from scratch to write a Funge-98 interpreter starting with a Funge-93 interpreter < 1455324874 747795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language requires the internals to be much more general < 1455324881 979684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mycology < 1455324883 59533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1455324911 695049 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We should probably move that to `tomfoolery < 1455324928 971965 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`misle/rn mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1455324931 691457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was lied to about «mycology is a befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https:» < 1455324932 627005 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1455324936 874622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot the slash :-P < 1455324942 134436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1455324943 86967 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mislearn mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1455324950 615630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1455324953 430235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was lied to about 'mycology': mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1455325047 499547 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: Does SmileBASIC use goto's or logical control flow? Or both, perhaps? < 1455325053 183350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should feel proud about that canary.orig error message < 1455325076 259459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it's the only time anyone's actually pierced HackEgo's sandbox < 1455325076 938869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it was unintentoinal < 1455325083 884742 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it has labels but also structures like WHILE/FOR/DEF < 1455325100 302114 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :labels are really only useful for DATA < 1455325109 177726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: Ah. I'd recommend you avoid goto as much as possible, if you didn't know to already. < 1455325120 577015 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm a bit of a hobby coder :) < 1455325125 786352 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use comefrom instead xD < 1455325139 739904 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455325143 521113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: come from is normally about as readable as goto < 1455325145 425911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, unconditional come from < 1455325150 800151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usual to write a comment at the jump source < 1455325153 1436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having messed a bit with Petit Computer.. yes, not a very pretty dialect of BASIC < 1455325157 224868 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PTC only had IF/ELSE/GOTO/GOSUB/FOR < 1455325185 792361 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but yes, in retrospect my command seemed likely to hit timeout <-- especially since the entire hg repository is mounted in ./.hg or thereabouts < 1455325188 625373 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SmileBASIC has IF/ELSEIF/ELSE/WHILE/FOR/GOTO/GOSUB/DEF/REPEAT and I'm sure I'm missing something < 1455325202 754175 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm < 1455325203 443282 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEF basically creates commands/functions < 1455325205 887089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode . < 1455325206 930872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002E FULL STOP] < 1455325210 687849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1455325215 707347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does . have to come so early in asciibetical order < 1455325220 20436 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now want to make a new BASIC and distribute it to the masses < 1455325234 760650 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SmileBASIC is pretty good for what it is, I would recommend it to hobby people < 1455325242 595060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there enough basics already? < 1455325246 375946 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$9.99 is US land < 1455325251 135308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a new logo and distribute it to the masses < 1455325265 199707 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To see if I can get the world of computer users programming again < 1455325269 622023 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, probably that instead < 1455325273 332713 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Baso. < 1455325274 895806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logo's a) actually pretty powerful, b) normally thought of as being used by schoolchildren (thus adding a powerful library to it will surprise people) < 1455325290 985346 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if I still have my ptc funge source code around somewhere < 1455325293 617846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, write a website in logo, that would be pretty eso < 1455325355 756005 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe yeah, here it is < 1455325389 867562 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, 2014? this is older than I remember < 1455325449 646795 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455325520 685484 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, Logo would be better < 1455325549 83444 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmflry/myc* < 1455325551 825602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmflry/mycology < 1455325557 363933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have programmed in GWBASIC and QBASIC but I have not used SmileBASIC (I have heard of it though) < 1455325574 854866 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty good < 1455325587 521741 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since program sharing is over a server there's a lot of stuff to play with < 1455325610 359932 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What would be a good syntax for an educational language? < 1455325647 186294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure, most places seem to use Java or Python < 1455325658 382959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the university where I used to teach (and still works), first years were taught on Java and OCaml simultaneously < 1455325666 681786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with other languages coming in in later years < 1455325670 841293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Prolog < 1455325671 129166 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, maybe... < 1455325671 725671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :884) What I learned on the Prolog course is that it's a good language if you need a thing that can say "No" a lot. \ 946) Phantom_Hoover: my department teaches prolog, to second years I think some people choose it because it isn't ocaml, and then are disappointed to find it has lists \ 1203) oerjan: the origina < 1455325722 841668 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for something that... is good for new learners, and perhaps that hasn't been done frequently < 1455325726 621750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog definitely should count as eso by most definitions, the problem is that a) it was intended seriously when created, and b) there are very specific problem domains it's actually good at < 1455325729 135345 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l -d .hg < 1455325730 459115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 4 5000 5000 4096 Feb 13 00:55 .hg < 1455325758 56179 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LISP doesn't seem ideal, and BASICs have been done before < 1455325766 525338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you're trying to get the size of the directory recursively, you can only do that by iterating over it with a command like du < 1455325767 111988 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Haskell might actually be good < 1455325785 104581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you understand monads? < 1455325803 570573 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, and neither does anybody else < 1455325816 698832 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not a PURE haskell, just something with functional capabilities < 1455325836 737922 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, with the partial application and stuff. That'd be good for an educational language, IMLIO < 1455325855 389923 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :We get to learn the basics of Prolog and some other languages in the second year here < 1455325857 191301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("In My Likely-Incorrect Opinion") < 1455325858 183370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: `revert does not always work for file creations. although it seemed to work in that case. < 1455325876 333349 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog was pretty fun, but it certainly felt a bit unusual to work with < 1455325881 987671 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shells probably aren't a good idea for an educational language either... < 1455325891 497157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why not use OCaml? it's like Haskell but with a more intuitive evaluation order < 1455325913 104636 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Use an OCaml-like syntax you mean? < 1455325913 428413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that said, in my current project at work I'm using Ocaml but someone seems to have defined a >>= operator; I'm scared to see what it does) < 1455325924 683501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: an ocaml-like semantics < 1455325928 7265 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1455325929 349476 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this discussion really does seem esoteric to me (bad joke) < 1455325940 927724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: it's more ontopic than we normally are, which is a good thing < 1455325944 939479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when the channel's ontopic < 1455325945 626472 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was actually just checking if .hg was a symbolic link or not < 1455325956 652791 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and so would have been excluded by -r) < 1455325970 504033 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm looking for something easy for a newbie to learn xD < 1455325970 646250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv .hg .hg_old < 1455325971 549564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move `.hg' to `.hg_old': Device or resource busy < 1455325978 322813 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional programming is not very good for newbies, LTIC < 1455325985 25234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I was wondering what happened if I tried to rename it, given that it's updated magically < 1455325986 668670 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just confusing < 1455325993 119307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the exact error I got, I'm guessing it's a mount point < 1455325995 223830 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried learning Haskell < 1455325995 950166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount < 1455325996 782638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1455326000 233963 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't learn haskell < 1455326005 458186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount | grep -v none < 1455326006 544043 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,relatime) \ proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime) \ sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime) < 1455326034 347351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, "hostfs" < 1455326040 268033 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: No, and neither does anybody else <-- bah, i understand monads (in haskell, for CT ask shachaf) < 1455326041 867393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's mirroring something from the host < 1455326084 177349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think up an approach to monad tutorials that I don't think I've seen done well before < 1455326084 886571 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What parts of programming are underrepresented in educational languages? < 1455326085 525069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is the CT expert here < 1455326090 459757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he even moved there < 1455326098 647653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I haven't actually written a monad tutorial, because I don't want to become a meme < 1455326121 997138 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How- wha- a meme? < 1455326130 593901 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a classical meme? < 1455326133 770892 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a modern meme? < 1455326156 928879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: monad tutorials are something of a meme < 1455326164 977745 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1455326238 172889 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df .hg < 1455326238 906479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 40573996 9361756 29155208 25% /hackenv/.hg < 1455326244 342331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of terrible ones, and even most of the ones that help at least one person are totally confusing to most other people < 1455326254 480745 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1455326257 835485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bah why did I not come to the logical conclusion there < 1455326261 917393 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something I could teach my peers with < 1455326264 987458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the pieces were right in front of me < 1455326279 385578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I've seen someone use Ook! as a teaching language < 1455326287 225843 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No. < 1455326288 800216 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just no. < 1455326323 858110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: Ook! is one of the few BF derivatives that we don't hate, on the basis that it was the first and thus the idea of being a BF derivative hadn't become discredited yet) < 1455326335 47164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1455326351 822842 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a good set of basic semantic and syntactic features for teaching clueless highschoolers how to code? < 1455326358 498395 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say non-console IO < 1455326389 630139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most commonly I see people do either: very simple imperative languages (think BASIC); Logo derivatives; or flowchart-based languages with a GUI editor < 1455326407 206544 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not the last one < 1455326413 997382 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my compsci class we learn Java so there's that < 1455326421 741808 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackerSnail: Not Java. < 1455326432 403827 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a common teaching language < 1455326452 72808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is totally a common teaching languages, although normally at the undergraduate level < 1455326470 28187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the reason is that plausibly being able to claim that you know Java almost guarantees you'll be able to get a job < 1455326479 84304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it does wonders for the department's graduate employment statistics < 1455326482 489382 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455326492 765870 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1455326523 656056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome RedPhoenix_ < 1455326525 179168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1455326526 734071 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` df .hg 2>/dev/null < 1455326527 849520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 40573996 9362416 29154548 25% /hackenv/.hg < 1455326551 614660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9362416 kilobytes? that's a lot of space < 1455326560 511065 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: Oh, you came over here xD < 1455326565 800341 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome then < 1455326566 233625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind-of unbelievably large, actually < 1455326579 952245 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why I'm reading "erotic" instead of esoteric? o.O < 1455326597 416200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have any erotic esolangs yet? < 1455326612 136243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's brainfuck < 1455326630 508519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not erotic, it just has "fuck" in the name < 1455326634 627900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "brain" < 1455326641 250483 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, I came over here, hurra! < 1455326655 879492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you're not trying hard enough < 1455326713 150720 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome RedPhoenix_ < 1455326714 558434 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02RedPhoenix_: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1455326725 289363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh do I have to delete relcome again :-( < 1455326734 732536 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Hi, again .. < 1455326756 624310 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot? < 1455326783 790473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's a bot, hppavilion[1] isn't (just a bit overenthusiastic) < 1455326820 963189 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Huh? < 1455326832 909991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm replying to RedPhoenix_ < 1455326836 576162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were already welcomed once.. < 1455326840 457841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also getting annoyed at you re-welcoming someone just so that you could rainbow it < 1455326843 642355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, about deleting `relcome < 1455326845 749685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_, most people think it means the other kind of esoteric, 'erotic' is a new one < 1455326868 647830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because of people overwelcoming in an annoying way and with stupid welcome variants < 1455326869 794965 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Oh, I didn't notice because it wasn't colorful < 1455326882 191626 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a command output or something < 1455326886 819333 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit clueless. < 1455326900 120316 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it IS a command output, but...) < 1455326902 524293 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean.. it was command output :P < 1455326913 743687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's the stats for the whole root filesystem of the thing. < 1455326924 544993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm guessing a side effect on how umlbox mounts those things. < 1455326928 188181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah right < 1455326929 885528 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need sleep, 4 times or so I've read "#erotic" instead of "#esorotik" < 1455326935 137121 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn! < 1455326939 722074 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455326941 729720 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* "'esoteric" < 1455326942 875553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something I discovered recently: if you need sleep, then get it < 1455326944 860572 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1455326948 83210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sleeping just makes you tireder < 1455326962 576029 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should I take a different approach to teaching programming from scratch (well, not different at all) and use static typing? < 1455326964 80695 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The esorotic channel | Effi's finest fluffy waffles | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | 100% of cpus on the wall ♪ < 1455326970 826301 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* "#esoteric" < 1455326977 720651 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455326981 632372 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1455327025 445913 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1455327028 963594 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : FireFly: Oh, I didn't notice because it wasn't colorful <-- *MWAHAHAHA* i knew it < 1455327048 88870 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm inverse color blind, don't laugh at me :,( < 1455327074 516100 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] < 1455327077 962013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That said, the whole persistent directory does manage to take 527M of space; 220M excluding the .hg part. < 1455327078 279355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. < 1455327094 972991 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i may have been slightly laughing at ais523 too, there < 1455327095 316788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think that is usually called synesthesia < 1455327118 681972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what have I done that's worthy of being laughed at? < 1455327122 324305 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2003-01-18.txt :O < 1455327128 693173 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: No, the other inverse < 1455327157 846883 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you want people to use `welcome instead of the others, but it's so boring people miss that it's been used :P < 1455327174 860819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get _more_ over-welcoming that way. < 1455327175 563451 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why must be the ` there? < 1455327181 344702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well this channel shouldn't be /about/ welcomes < 1455327187 73879 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: it's HackEgo's command prefix < 1455327188 188212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: first character lets bots know which bot we're talking to < 1455327205 761536 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are multiple bots here? < 1455327211 233346 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo precisely! < 1455327211 375799 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely! precisely! < 1455327212 67803 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1455327213 514663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]. < 1455327213 814006 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455327221 871488 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 NICK :Bot_Hunter_2000 < 1455327222 301639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1455327222 576738 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1455327224 503307 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bots < 1455327224 977087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1455327225 119479 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1455327226 510694 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1455327227 476863 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "but of course!" < 1455327229 735577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "but of course!" < 1455327230 841172 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1455327230 983684 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1455327231 426736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1455327232 306859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1455327238 675019 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to hunt! < 1455327243 458438 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "lots of them!" < 1455327245 371439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to pick a command that quite a few bots know) < 1455327245 513763 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"lots of them!" : 12String < 1455327258 891622 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String? < 1455327260 532630 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'even this' < 1455327261 171399 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot fail? < 1455327261 313808 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: even this < 1455327269 575979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot_Hunter_2000: no, it just prints the type of the result < 1455327269 861203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot_Hunter_2000: "lots of them!" is a String < 1455327271 733070 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "test" < 1455327271 879746 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"test" : 12String < 1455327277 157768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 12 < 1455327278 59519 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "test" : hi < 1455327278 324150 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :0412 : 12Integer < 1455327278 466573 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1455327278 466643 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1455327278 466665 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1455327278 466684 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1455327279 251556 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1455327282 603029 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1455327286 258124 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ "one more" < 1455327286 925292 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error < 1455327287 67677 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | "one more" < 1455327289 294651 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1455327290 418950 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "test" : 1 < 1455327290 561426 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1455327290 703955 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1455327290 704045 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1455327290 704077 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1455327290 704106 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1455327297 125338 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "test" : j-bot < 1455327297 267577 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I showcased j-bot already :< < 1455327297 267672 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1455327297 410240 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1455327297 410340 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1455327297 849777 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i don't know J < 1455327298 248320 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1455327300 275949 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1455327308 706881 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :strings are single-quote only < 1455327310 447281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's an APL derivative < 1455327312 514945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't really help though < 1455327315 452292 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :double quotes have another meaning < 1455327320 664382 :Bot_Hunter_2000!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 NICK :RedPhoenix_ < 1455327328 565119 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "test" : "hi" < 1455327330 918138 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1455327331 60701 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1455327331 60813 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1455327331 60890 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1455327331 60925 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1455327350 69720 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455327352 39857 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate bots :/ < 1455327354 686500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (test)S < 1455327354 828873 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327355 443577 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot might be more useful if one already knows a bit of Idris < 1455327356 806749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i thought the .hg part was readonly from the sandbox, so not really part of the persistent directory < 1455327384 766083 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: Bots are our friends! < 1455327385 979244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do EgoBot/HackEgo know underload? < 1455327388 519906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ul (test)S < 1455327409 79981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, I think we taught EgoBot Underload via giving it an Underload impl written in brainfuck < 1455327412 670481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! ul (test)S < 1455327413 525645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/ul: not found < 1455327423 231325 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not mine! < 1455327423 544039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (test)S < 1455327423 686689 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327427 689971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (test)S < 1455327427 989853 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327434 310615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+haskell 2+2 < 1455327436 654531 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1455327446 278271 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Idea! An esolang, interpreted on a server, that uses neural networks to decide what to do < 1455327452 834983 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1455327453 659429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1455327454 931512 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Syntax etc looks like a new programming language: Bot++ < 1455327475 404651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thutubot < 1455327476 166231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thutubot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455327484 715750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1455327485 783641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1455327487 378598 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: On it. < 1455327491 931820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't have a help command < 1455327492 225337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (test)S < 1455327492 368026 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327493 648687 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1455327495 933667 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help < 1455327496 76079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1455327496 76163 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1455327497 986317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ul (test)S < 1455327498 818417 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1455327509 104580 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help list < 1455327509 246796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :list [module|command]. Show commands for [module] or the module providing [command]. < 1455327509 389109 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list [module|command]. Show commands for [module] or the module providing [command]. < 1455327513 855930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+list < 1455327519 236189 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A query would be better to prevent spam < 1455327519 808306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, /this/ is why we don't run thutubot all the time < 1455327538 95455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it repeats everything lambdabot says < 1455327549 394387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+quit < 1455327561 186518 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help < 1455327561 328947 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1455327561 471244 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1455327567 10587 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?prefix < 1455327567 152933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1455327567 295412 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1455327570 466142 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1455327570 608524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1455327570 750977 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1455327572 357636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess it thinks I'm not identified because Freenode changed its identification syntax < 1455327574 340491 :thutubot!~thutubot@213.205.252.15 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455327574 642692 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat prefixes ... < 1455327583 287056 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1455327585 410795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1455327589 178749 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1455327605 588279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1455327605 730702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1455327618 321840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1455327626 415813 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1455327626 595270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1455327628 168069 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i know _that_, i just don't really know its operators < 1455327630 187109 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@say heyho! < 1455327630 329359 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: src slap faq < 1455327635 508560 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?version < 1455327635 651101 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot 5.0.3 < 1455327635 651228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clone https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot < 1455327638 500670 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faw < 1455327638 643008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ < 1455327644 179820 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap int-e < 1455327644 322342 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop telling me what to do < 1455327647 291075 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1455327649 438934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's an APL derivative, thus you can't know them < 1455327653 939193 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap int-e < 1455327654 81654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smacks int-e about with a large trout
< 1455327658 165571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without memorizing them individually < 1455327664 702828 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src < 1455327664 845310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :src . Display the implementation of a standard function < 1455327668 724018 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src 1 < 1455327668 866287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. You speak an infinite deal of nothing. < 1455327690 650169 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faw < 1455327690 792669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ < 1455327694 23014 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faq < 1455327694 165492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ < 1455327698 30968 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: i suspect the syntax error in ( "test" : ... is on the : so it doesn't matter what you put after it. < 1455327707 838127 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( hi < 1455327707 980423 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable hi < 1455327710 621077 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "hi" < 1455327710 763482 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"hi" : 12String < 1455327720 211219 :slackerSnail!43952a19@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.149.42.25 QUIT : < 1455327724 816020 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "line1","line2" < 1455327725 18468 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1455327725 160749 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1455327725 160825 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1455327725 160888 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1455327725 160907 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-010-250.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1455327747 303026 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many bots are here? < 1455327762 285071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is N+1 < 1455327770 690112 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!underload (test)S < 1455327771 19557 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327776 726016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel was about 10% bots once < 1455327777 260994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1455327778 832050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! underload (test)S < 1455327779 866187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1455327787 45995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like we do have an underload interprer < 1455327791 3998 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suicides herself
< 1455327798 245613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!underload (::^)::^ < 1455327800 829021 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Out of memory < 1455327802 904543 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : come to think of it, I think we taught EgoBot Underload via giving it an Underload impl written in brainfuck <-- no that was fungot and it was later replaced by a funge-98 one. < 1455327803 788160 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the council is of the greatest importance. we have seen entire local action programmes on equal opportunities policy for africa, asia and south america, for example, with the promise accompanying monetary unification that a new draft directive greater pressure would be brought into line with those of the who in some cases as sick people, but every time there was a real turning point in space activities, then of course t < 1455327811 240479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (::^)::^ < 1455327811 697984 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...too much stack! < 1455327828 951642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedPhoenix_: it's only natural that when you have a channel about programming langauges < 1455327832 973880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you add some way to run the languages in-channel < 1455327836 939655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the bots did originally < 1455327838 808260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wow, that's deep < 1455327839 289670 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, the european commission, were that fact properly to emerge, the three reports before parliament today. i am particularly happy to have got his way and has signed a voluntary commitment concerning the sustainable development of the european council will give impetus to the process moving forward, and i am thinking, for example. < 1455327843 34820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it sort-of got took over by things like quotes and welcome < 1455327868 842921 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not a really programming freak, I'm doing a little bit funny, but nothing more :( < 1455327875 18822 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+for < 1455327911 722336 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455327958 778557 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we have a new topic < 1455327970 866060 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but shouldn't that c be a k? < 1455327994 609901 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh yeah baby... show me your brainfuck derivatives..." < 1455328011 674122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it repeats everything lambdabot says <-- you could make it only do that for private messages? < 1455328018 857998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was meant to < 1455328025 145780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixing it at this point means reading years-old thutu < 1455328060 83502 :RedPhoenix_!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 NICK :RedPhoenix_Away < 1455328179 952744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : dat prefixes ... <-- we cannot really put the prefixes command in lambdabot because it's a multi-channel bot. < 1455328213 790654 :RedPhoenix_Away!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1455328236 207359 :RedPhoenix_Away!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1455328366 419498 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : How many bots are here? <-- i sometimes like to check if the channel is up to 10% bots. it varies. < 1455328412 824712 :RedPhoenix_Away!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok ok, understood, thanks, I'm now away < 1455328430 659405 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455328461 556796 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing that theory about sleep, I guess... < 1455328465 382234 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: but shouldn't that c be a k? <-- i just copied what was said hth < 1455328534 453910 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally reaches the bottom of the channel
< 1455328549 424038 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to ruin it by making some food -> < 1455328574 369585 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you really didn't; you made up a new word. < 1455328860 753515 :RedPhoenix_Away!542e2b04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.46.43.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455328885 276688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i? < 1455328916 612714 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The esorotik channel | Effi's finest fluffy waffles | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | 100% of cpus on the wall ♪ < 1455328923 903719 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOCKING < 1455328934 135540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :very. < 1455329375 531308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455330138 906233 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: IMAGINARY CHICKEN < 1455331304 661319 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455331529 555334 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455331844 149568 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buenos tardis! < 1455333347 701815 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455333497 703039 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455333509 571814 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-108-216.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1455333768 883071 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1455333936 596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455333956 76918 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455334125 164812 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ahsgdepqpyeeeldp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1455335723 706561 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455335864 693312 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455335962 806081 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455338126 919655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a maximum size for a page on the esolang wiki? < 1455338321 494991 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455338360 817948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1455338418 612624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 kilobytes hth < 1455338449 693431 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1455338932 854966 :PinealGl1ndOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455339322 54524 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455339583 574005 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The way my irc client displayed the above, I thought you said that you were probably the maximum size of an esolang wiki page... < 1455339601 923632 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455339680 25337 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455340008 523503 :jaboja!~jaboja@aak224.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455340210 431212 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1455340717 176880 :PinealGl1ndOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1455340720 743701 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1455340898 832402 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: your client is weird hth < 1455341036 876182 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455341422 755458 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it looked like a CTCP ACTION, as if you were saying /me probably :P < 1455341928 30200 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unlikely
< 1455343742 960100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I missed a lot of stuff here < 1455343907 601193 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455344029 358265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I did post two Node.js packages (sorry no document yet) < 1455344065 29862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do JavaScript programming then maybe you might be able to use it < 1455344666 356542 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455344926 59189 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455345233 358658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to add graph isomorphism function into my "parse-rdf" package < 1455345325 415411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also made up the functions of "monadic generators" in JavaScript; do you like this? < 1455347096 518537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the biconditional CHI to? < 1455347225 143103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is < 1455347278 222762 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which part? < 1455347286 292671 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI = Curry-Howard Correspondence < 1455347306 624137 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correspondence = Isomorphism < 1455347402 493460 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455347497 528886 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455347575 25647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I can understand that part now < 1455347591 310518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do not quite understand your question though < 1455347679 757076 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm trying to figure out if there's a simple meaning for p <-> q under the curry-howard isomorphism < 1455347723 602486 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like how | is Either and & forms tuples < 1455347765 391599 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, one can treat p <-> q as (p -> q) & (q -> p), but that's the type that I'm starting with < 1455347778 613072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455347790 302560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hais523 der < 1455347801 96818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I can understand you now < 1455347808 914276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't! < 1455347849 639654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the isomorphism between the types I expect? < 1455347875 386854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While the factorial would be the isomorphism between itself, I expect? < 1455347925 439392 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't think there is a simpler meaning. < 1455347931 426206 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh :/ < 1455347961 867829 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm trying to figure out what Biconditional Introduction corresponds to < 1455347976 650752 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's biconditional introduction < 1455348017 840119 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ((P -> Q) & (Q -> P)) -> Q <-> P hth < 1455348028 847918 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1455348067 340429 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Though I'm beginning to think it programs to a style (like double negation elimination corresponds to CPS) more than a type system feature < 1455348107 550067 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well <-> is what you need for equational reasoning about propositions, i guess < 1455348141 574784 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i still don't think there's a CH equivalence different from that of (P -> Q) & (Q -> P) < 1455348208 834347 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that's what I said (I think), it's probably more a style like CPS than a thing builtin to the langauge < 1455348335 272893 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455349904 668645 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455350489 918038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki article about #esoteric stack mentions my Z-machine implementation, but which one do you mean? Do you mean ZORKMID, or JSZM, or Famizork? < 1455350561 456296 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455350840 761190 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455351064 263826 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1455351499 76275 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-222-233.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1455351521 628386 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-222-233.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455352415 569834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455353282 937086 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wlpiqdjkglnytueo NICK :incomprehensibly < 1455353937 738361 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455353946 781948 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravitational waves somehow make sense < 1455353962 490140 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not the ones I'm thinking of < 1455353980 24793 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object pulls in another object < 1455354003 605660 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that object wiggles back and forth < 1455354021 499924 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the grav force applied to the other object would wiggle too :D < 1455354033 511162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46396&oldid=40842 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+544) 10/* Examples */ < 1455354071 285285 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's probably not the grav waves scientists are talking about. < 1455354140 842598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like, if you make a really really large change to a gravitational field suddenly, the force it applies to other objects doesn't change immediately and when it does it oscillates into position < 1455354200 911089 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so gravitity travels at light speed? < 1455354217 794370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1455354437 596509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT./99 bottles14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46397 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+322515) 10Created < 1455354477 965724 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You just explained that better than anything I've read. < 1455354593 166090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT./99 bottles14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46398&oldid=46397 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-11937) 10remove excess space < 1455354717 244738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46399&oldid=46396 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+136) 10/* Sample programs */ < 1455354840 837129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: does that program even contain a loop? I saw the "322515", thought "that's big for a language", realised it was a 99bob program, and wondered just how verbose the program was < 1455354849 178193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I looked at the page itself and saw it was /compressed/ < 1455354929 790085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1455354938 675296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455355108 356855 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46400&oldid=46399 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+2) 10/* Integer division and integer modulus */ < 1455355317 656297 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1455355322 762361 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you blow up a planet < 1455355332 234391 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's sucking you in < 1455355337 883450 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that planet is one light year away < 1455355360 633152 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be a year before your planet stops getting sucktion from that planet you just blew up < 1455355382 473650 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455355424 460450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1455355444 25495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :science fiction makes a lightyear seem so small < 1455355448 438846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really teally big < 1455355451 518837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really really < 1455355460 673182 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455355463 847804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things out there are so far away, that you can't do anything to affect them in less than a year < 1455355544 125880 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455355806 88449 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455359988 265580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone `olisted 1023 yet? < 1455360003 337508 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1023 < 1455360029 883557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1023: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1455360127 978317 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455361809 978361 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455361929 987693 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455362425 798230 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455363307 519193 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455363434 563431 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455363842 505736 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-222-233.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455363858 328790 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-207-242.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455363863 140110 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-207-242.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1455364192 568462 :bender|_!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d4a4:de5e:a16f:39a8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455364224 32736 :bender|_!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d4a4:de5e:a16f:39a8 QUIT :Changing host < 1455364224 175088 :bender|_!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455364236 26584 :bender|_!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 NICK :bender < 1455364269 334226 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455364389 186590 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455364863 742849 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455365523 309200 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455365559 555676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1455365985 367508 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455366216 757747 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455366579 361783 :gremlins2!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455366596 365824 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455367112 740035 :gremlins2!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455367151 331853 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455367359 331017 :gremlins2!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455367436 300854 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455368006 990590 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1455369588 540878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455369914 105571 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455370429 698679 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455370543 503525 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455370545 460248 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1455370545 880029 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 131300Z 25017G22KT 15SM DRSN FEW015 SCT045 SCT240 M23/M28 A3002 RMK SF1SC4CI1 SF TR CI TR SLP172 < 1455370796 909100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cold day < 1455370846 963281 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1455370847 218875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 131320Z 27008KT 9999 FEW070 BKN120 07/00 Q0991 NOSIG < 1455371685 330593 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-234-108-216.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1455371867 345029 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hungry and haven't groceried in way too long. ain't even got moldy bread to look all shifty at me. < 1455371886 174874 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to brave the cold to go grab a pho. < 1455371899 680176 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then grocery. but first pho. priorities.) < 1455372240 137209 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455372426 874833 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-108-216.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: later chat < 1455372536 368152 :gremlins2!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455372795 346551 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455373501 990971 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455375450 106513 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/republican-voters-bomb-agrabah-disney-aladdin-donald-trump murrica < 1455376100 375877 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455376241 102133 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455376674 72538 :bender!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Quit: Ping Pong Fuckout < 1455377180 134884 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... I'm trying to implement AES for revision purposes < 1455377194 594163 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've accidentally reimplemented mutliplication < 1455377206 70022 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good start < 1455377207 155162 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty hard stuff! < 1455377229 384299 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you better did not used predefined addition for this < 1455377239 810809 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I did not < 1455377250 948386 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1455377253 949019 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shifts, ands, xors, and the occasional increment < 1455377279 902876 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like that russian multiplikation thingie < 1455377365 127409 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455377761 629698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COWLICK CHICKEN < 1455378438 38554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I was wrong, I hadn't implemented multiplication < 1455378492 769751 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455379048 541170 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455379312 995521 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455379356 702473 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455379574 622726 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455379611 249555 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I have for breakfast? < 1455379642 218415 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cereal, maybe? < 1455380291 413262 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455380378 516448 :gremlins!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net NICK :Reece` < 1455380433 850342 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was much better than just having coffee like i usually do < 1455380435 290273 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1455380461 93661 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455380463 222306 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also apparently corn flakes in coffee milk is vary good < 1455380481 741330 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fan of coffee, personally < 1455380681 389767 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know you can now buy pre-mixed coffee milk in Canada? it used to only be in Japan afaik < 1455381407 707652 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455381486 360904 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455381571 771091 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455381864 380173 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, that's very strange < 1455382230 511224 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lactantia.ca/food-product-category/iced-coffee/ < 1455382703 700084 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455382946 297591 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455383290 573547 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-207-242.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455383749 208653 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455383955 213935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course it loops. It's only 7MB with the comments and whitespace removed. I estimate a minified non-looping 99bob in SELECT. would run to ~250MB < 1455384016 763720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he maybe doesnt logread much < 1455384058 267866 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 of course it loops. It's only 7MB with the comments and whitespace removed. I estimate a minified non-looping 99bob in SELECT. would run to ~250MB < 1455384058 447281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455384105 994168 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455384265 201534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That was a redundant olist and you were around for the first olist. :-( < 1455384372 546606 :Reece`!~nothing@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455384392 668878 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455384978 510344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no such thing as a redundant olist if it doesn't mention you! < 1455385752 181293 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Quit: LexiciScriptor < 1455385864 399111 :jaboja!~jaboja@emh138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455386497 850591 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to have ghc output C code? < 1455386536 722868 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in such a way so that I can call it from C < 1455387046 417053 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, the answer's "no, but it can output a header which you can include in C" < 1455387053 383994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm fuzzy on the details < 1455387123 157336 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I don't live in CT anymore :( < 1455387131 740979 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455387134 229911 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja TOPIC #esoteric :The esoerotic channel | Effi's finest fluffy waffles | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | 100% of cpus on the wall ♪ < 1455387139 495145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Oh, you moved *from* there, right. < 1455387207 979268 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :( < 1455387394 809523 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455387876 754899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Not happy with VA? < 1455387954 129821 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03FlamingObsidian 5* 10New user account < 1455388892 865877 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no I actually like it < 1455389175 991090 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1455389540 371548 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455389666 330340 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455389802 43400 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455389926 423605 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455390031 372378 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⴱⴺⵃⵠⵒⵍ < 1455390054 551496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2D31 TIFINAGH LETTER YAB] [U+2D3A TIFINAGH LETTER YADDH] [U+2D43 TIFINAGH LETTER YAHH] [U+2D60 TIFINAGH LETTER YAV] [U+2D52 TIFINAGH LETTER YAP] [U+2D4D TIFINAGH LETTER YAL] < 1455390480 717491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hieroglyphic14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46401 5* 03FlamingObsidian 5* (+884) 10Created page with "== Syntax == Hieroglyphic uses hieroglyphics to symbolize its code. Here are the symbols and their meanings. I - Increment current number - M17 B - Decrement current number..." < 1455390639 763980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ (note: Ook! is one of the few BF derivatives that we don't hate, on the basis that it was the first and thus the idea of being a BF derivative hadn't become discredited yet)” <= I agree < 1455390674 838456 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ook is pretty lame, though < 1455390686 198113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ What would be a good set of basic semantic and syntactic features for teaching clueless highschoolers how to code?” <= I have my own guess at this, I can tell if you're interested < 1455390697 373630 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had to choose a bf derivate, i'd choose bf2d < 1455390742 803499 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would teach them robozzle < 1455390743 608630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm totally not convinced it's right, since I want to teach imperative programming with side effects first, whereas there are pretty good arguments on teaching functional programming without side-effects first < 1455390825 762031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ I don't think we have any erotic esolangs yet?” <= partly because what turns people on varies a lot, so a language might easily be erotic to someone but not erotic to someone else < 1455390841 898738 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Continue < 1455390875 139082 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the first part, not the erotic esolangs part < 1455390889 983791 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what you teach really depends on the skills at hand and the skills that need to be there at the end < 1455390911 43257 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes. I'm designing this to start with the clueless. < 1455390915 663041 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the sandwich making approach to give people a first impression on what algorithms are < 1455390934 878367 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperative programming is a lot more intuitive for people who don't have a huge grounding in abstract math < 1455390948 994379 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. grade schoolers < 1455390980 547923 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455390997 646888 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is what you do: grab a bag of toast, a knife, some stuff to make sandwiches (depending on your likings, bpb&j, butter and ham, whatever) < 1455391015 977284 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do zexactly_ what they say < 1455391047 94007 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455391047 867113 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they want you to butter the toast, take the butter and put it on the bag of toast < 1455391154 740442 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't think toast comes in bags hth < 1455391159 448767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ has anyone `olisted 1023 yet?” => yes, shachaf did < 1455391201 316942 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever these are called < 1455391215 602274 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455391232 352110 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nick hppavilion[1] < 1455391237 420669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nick: not found < 1455391243 629588 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make a sandwich: go to the store, buy mortadella and bread, cut the bread with a knife, put the mortadella inside the bread < 1455391255 174847 :hppavilion[2]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1455391255 736323 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :expected behaviour: wait forever at the store < 1455391308 715440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ hppavilion[1]: what you teach really depends on the skills at hand and the skills that need to be there at the end” <= yes, but at a higher level. at the lower level where we decided the goal was to give first year mathematician students an introduction to programming such that it helps especially those who aren't otherwise interested in programming, < 1455391359 934479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in such a way that I want to help those who won't program in the future, such that they can at least tell better what is possible to teach to a computer and what isn't and how to work together with people who do program. < 1455391383 287085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at that point, I don't think there's too much other we had to fix, so I could just choose a reasonable set of syntax on what to teach. < 1455391417 127232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I did choose a very small subset of python to teach them for this purpose on a course. < 1455391428 943696 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for maths people i'd go straight to haskell < 1455391436 55049 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The course notes are http://wiki.math.bme.hu/view/Informatika1-2010 but partly broken. < 1455391441 252429 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: they're not maths people YET < 1455391456 237535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they need to get an introduction to algorithms and what computers can do to become maths people < 1455391460 652235 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not start with c < 1455391478 520928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LexiciScriptor: because we don't want them to get all segfaulted and have to learn memory managed < 1455391479 227341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LexiciScriptor: what for? < 1455391488 708786 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :our goal isn't that they should program, or that they know python < 1455391498 932161 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want to teach people how a cpu works, i'd use assembly < 1455391505 16605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to know the basics of what a computer can do, in abstract, < 1455391512 652024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in a low level < 1455391518 510464 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want to teach them how imperative öanguageork, i'd use something that sucks less than c doess < 1455391522 296602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on a level where you ignore all the constant factors < 1455391526 932637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: < 1455391550 449607 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is one of the worst starting languages i can imagine < 1455391556 753238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/info1/info1-prog-osszefoglalo.html demonstrates most of the features, but I'll enumerate them here < 1455391560 930268 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started with c :P < 1455391586 222406 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what age and with what previous knowledge? < 1455391629 234019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. integer literals and arithmetic operators on integers and real numbers: add, subtract, multiply, divide, integer divide, reminder, power, six comparison operators < 1455391629 959093 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 18, first year uni with only pascal :O < 1455391640 76501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. boolean operators: and, or, not < 1455391653 630521 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you already know imperative programming < 1455391663 789627 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't start with c then < 1455391664 565489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. creating and reassigning variables with the = operator < 1455391675 650373 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455391696 884640 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. print statements, to print values for debugging or output < 1455391698 417822 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was 14 when i learned pascal, and most people in the class were computer illiterate < 1455391710 27897 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1455391714 181311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with printing string literals and numerical expressions in a line < 1455391736 28215 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, c-like sintax is common in other languages useful for math < 1455391740 672554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. if and if-else conditionals < 1455391755 240229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :6. chains of elsif < 1455391756 140593 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LexiciScriptor: sytax doesn't matter < 1455391771 624538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. while conditionals < 1455391780 320536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. how to interrupt the interpreter in case of an infinite loop < 1455391809 498870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. creating an array with an array constructor (bracket), 10. indexing an array < 1455391821 61254 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you know any imperative language, you can learn another one in a week or two to the point of anything you'd probably need in any uni course < 1455391850 701304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :11. modifying an array in place with indexed assignment and the .append method, and how arrays are stored by reference < 1455391936 501668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :12. for loops to loop on arrays and 13. the range function (12 and 13 are extra, I don't think I actually use them in my sample code, but they're convenient) < 1455391978 941154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :14. tuples, which are non-writable arrays, and creating them from an array with the tuple function, to help avoid mistakenly modifying an array < 1455391987 81568 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455391993 787032 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will be a course next semester called "computational metaphysics" < 1455391998 409059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :15. tuple constructors (you don't really need them, but they help interpret the debug output when you print) < 1455392010 325463 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure wetger or not to go there < 1455392050 739021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :16. defining and calling functions with def and return and parenthesis (this will be important, one of the most important concepts I want to teach later is using a user-defined function as a building block you can re-use for multiple tasks) < 1455392054 208669 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what? < 1455392070 898526 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what what? < 1455392095 561582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the end of the list, these are all the syntactic concepts I taught for the programming introduction; < 1455392100 844885 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is computational metaphysics? < 1455392119 494485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though note that in this class we also give an introduction to symbolic computer algebra, which needs some more syntax stuff. < 1455392126 440546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: does this make sense/ < 1455392148 494876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The important part is of course not the particular syntax elements I teach, but the lessons I want to teach about programming with their help. < 1455392218 869623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently there's one more. I also mentioned strings being first class values and concatenating strings. I dunno why. < 1455392252 310753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, I didn't < 1455392265 200470 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was on the course our co-teacher held < 1455392305 310450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have time, I should eventually try to make a standalone programming tutorial based on what I tried to teach there. < 1455392328 201572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :With exactly the syntax elements I mentioned, and the same goals of what I wanted to teach, and much of the same example code and exercises. < 1455392351 694536 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455392579 798156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the lessons I tried to teach and should try to teach in such a tutorial are: printf-debugging; re-using functions for a different but related task; basics of runtime complexity of algorithms, by demonstrating the cubic and quadratic solutions to the last task in http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/info1/info1-ea5.html and telling that there is a linear time solution < 1455392613 635568 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :; how to use loops (this one is probably before the complexity one) < 1455392696 659524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The start of http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/info1/info1-gy4.html tells about manually stopping a program that loops infinitely, and about printf debugging < 1455392803 699859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :These syntactic elements certainly aren't enough for practical programming, and I don't want to claim that either, I designed them to introduce people to what programming is about. < 1455392890 189715 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :booleans as first class values you can assign to a variable is sort of a lesson, but I don't really emphasize it in this course < 1455392913 756980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do demonstrate passing arrays (which are also first class values) to functions though < 1455392951 115685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :passing arrays to functions is also a really good reason not to twach < 1455392957 642260 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach c as first language < 1455393030 705328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just having to allocate memory to arrays, of which you might not know the size at start, is already a good enough reason. < 1455393035 896457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you don't pass them anywhere. < 1455393036 365398 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1455393047 720735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a good reason for not using classical BASIC by the way. < 1455393077 260212 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1455393085 626950 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, both passing arrays to functions and growing arrays dynamically are good reasons against BASIC. < 1455393093 143463 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :returning arrays is even more fun < 1455393098 768563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also BASIC won't print an array easily in a print statement. < 1455393098 910957 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455393102 948361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I do return arrays < 1455393116 383372 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in c? < 1455393152 421514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: in python, in that course. see http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/info1/info1-ea5.html < 1455393171 219942 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's easy in python < 1455393173 411393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the function forditott returns an array < 1455393176 203989 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1455393178 834773 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it plain sucks in c < 1455393193 898142 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vecause you have to know all sorts of c specific shit < 1455393685 991266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think that C and BASIC is OK < 1455393740 604148 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455393902 631407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it depends on the goal really < 1455393917 520539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't help the particular lessons I wanted to teach < 1455393930 312799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might help if you wanted a longer introduction with more programming < 1455393965 744649 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for c you wouöd need much time explaining why things work in a way you may not expect < 1455393967 62185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you want a more low-level introduction teaching how the native execution model (C's) works < 1455393987 482715 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful for some people, but not for those that will never program in a low-level language, which is like half of our students. < 1455394006 640465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's details the programmers will manage for those people. < 1455394234 163269 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455394308 397345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For those who will learn to program, they'll learn from other sources, my goal in that short course wasn't really that. < 1455394524 479090 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455394539 728956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a question about git that I'll try to ask here. < 1455394632 474865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to apply the difference between two commits (call them t1 and t2) to the current state (both index and checked out files, error if their difference conflicts with the changes applied). < 1455394645 870960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two commits are related but it's possible that neither is an ancestor of the other. < 1455394704 849540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should take into account the history, in that it traverses the commits from t1 to the common ancestor of t1 and t2 then to t2, and preferable also take into account the history between the commits and the commit currently checked out. < 1455394763 266378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The index together with the checked out files may already have modifications, and applying the differences may conflict with these, or there can simply be a conflict between HEAD and those changes, in which case I want proper conflict markers as with a normal merge. < 1455394799 805235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know the best way to do this. What I think might work is this: ( git revert t2..t1 && git cherry-pick t1..t2 ) < 1455394845 12957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that combination of two commands do what I want? Whether or not, what's the best way to do this, rather than that command? < 1455394862 203672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're git people, please help. < 1455395051 569448 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try asking it in #git < 1455395064 148385 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I had tried, but I might try re-asking later. < 1455395109 297105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I come from the svn world, and I still think subversion is much better in the sense that I understand how its model works, find it easier to know how to do anything I want in it, and like its model. < 1455395132 140803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless, I want to learn git, partly because I have to work with it, and partly because there's some things it does better. < 1455395154 936137 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have learned a few things about git, but I don't really understand it. < 1455395193 385415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking here because I think some people here, especially ais523, might be able to explain the intuition behind git better, even if #git helps in the specific commands. < 1455395227 884822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think there's a regular besides ais523 who understands git, but I'm not sure who it is. < 1455395260 824327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can try to answer Apache Subversion questions in return if it helps.) < 1455395461 611874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, unrelated question. What's that other library that tries to be source-compatible with MPFR? < 1455395595 623596 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never pour boiling fat onto ice < 1455395605 765083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why? < 1455395621 767325 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it splatters all over and burns you < 1455395646 394324 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shouldn't be allowed to do science experiments < 1455395666 924264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what if you pour it from very far, like defending a castle in the winter by pouring hot oil on the intruders from the high castle wall? < 1455395687 260724 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily it wasn't that hot once it flew through the air. but still < 1455395790 78987 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also is a waste of good ice < 1455396013 391780 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tying to build a SSTS (single stage into the sun) vehicle < 1455396052 849885 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can get readings from the sun's atmosphere < 1455396288 792787 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is i'll launch it at middaya nd fly straight up into the sun < 1455396348 700060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What... why are you launching things into the usn < 1455396350 885871 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun < 1455396375 924242 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get science data from the sun < 1455396469 99359 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who has authorized you to do this < 1455396528 373009 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... i dunno < 1455396597 75035 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um, flying into the Sun is very difficult, for it requires lots of energy. < 1455396754 83594 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🂿 < 1455396765 819776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F0BF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9f 82 bf UTF-16BE: d83cdcbf Decimal: 🂿 \ 🂿 (🂿) \ Uppercase: U+1F0BF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1455396773 740011 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? as long as I escape Kerbin flying straight at it < 1455396784 983083 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, KSP < 1455396976 712560 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if i'm off a little then I'll be in a highly elliptical solar orbit, but a little shift with rcs at apohelion should fix that < 1455397051 894393 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to, using Qt, use a completely custom character encoding? < 1455397782 123532 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455397823 161276 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455397975 667834 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arghh you're right! < 1455397991 242532 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't believe so < 1455398003 551623 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Damn :/ < 1455398004 138217 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to escape kerbin more like at a 30 degree angle to account for kerbin's orbit < 1455398055 682790 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmm actually it might be possible to replace its font rendere < 1455398057 329600 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*renderer < 1455398064 807268 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Perhaps < 1455398100 522268 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: The issue is that Unicode doesn't have a character for XNOR, and I'd kind of like to experiment with making my own encoding anyway < 1455398112 824911 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you use Chuck Moore's huffman code based one < 1455398126 738953 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], why not private use characters/ < 1455398132 86508 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Possibly < 1455398145 247502 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Which is weird, because it has AND, OR, XOR, NAND, and NOR < 1455398156 366455 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455398183 616686 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], fax the consortium! < 1455398191 17966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∧ ∨ ⊻ ⊼ ⊽ < 1455398199 142202 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just do XOR with combining line above? < 1455398199 875521 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yeah just use private use area < 1455398201 225733 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Shall I encode the fax in EBDIC? < 1455398215 13327 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I could do that too, but making my own would be more fun xD < 1455398225 632128 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it would for the first hour < 1455398230 588212 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Fair point < 1455398247 179184 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Pffffffft. I can't concentrate on a task for a WHOLE HOUR. < 1455398273 39946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even on the copious amounts of medication I've been put on) < 1455398305 709164 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Pretty sure I'm on the maximum recommended dose of dextroamphetamine for my BMI) < 1455398324 253768 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1455398337 256157 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to help me write Mage Knight in Haskell? < 1455398342 649480 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Me? < 1455398352 280617 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly IS Mage Knight? < 1455398380 447553 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a classic game you're reimplementing, or just something that is back in the logs < 1455398380 614342 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, potentially < 1455398388 637702 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: !classic game < 1455398396 114726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1455398396 636829 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I should push what I have so far to GitHub < 1455398398 331233 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a ton < 1455398404 146120 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm qualified < 1455398409 937352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to write up my spec for COMPLEX < 1455398416 32770 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And publish my implementation < 1455398419 659124 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My haskell isn't very good; when I close the tutorial, I always forget about it for a month < 1455398430 169088 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: currently annoyed at naming record constructors :P < 1455398441 67325 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a humanitarian project called LIME Classroom < 1455398455 707273 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an online classroom for mathematics and computer science < 1455398466 799490 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(LIME = LIME Integrated Mathematical Environment) < 1455398532 922990 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a total computable acronym that is /not/ primitive recursive < 1455398541 694918 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Basically, the Ackerman of GNUs) < 1455398611 411508 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455398615 154643 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: https://github.com/scshunt/mage-knight < 1455398679 714959 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, my Lenovo lags a lot when plugged in on High Performance mode < 1455398687 724526 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455398690 793736 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is mage knight? < 1455398698 396020 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I only put it on Power Saver (which is less laggy) when plugged in < 1455398780 909398 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a board game < 1455398783 720117 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :very puzzle-like < 1455398915 674547 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled that much. can you recommend reading or watching something that will help me get an idea of it? < 1455398927 956431 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a good way to make a Fractran extension? < 1455398932 193034 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have enough of those < 1455398936 470520 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455398967 454541 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaternions < 1455398982 666942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Perhaps, though I was thinking something more like polynomials < 1455398983 565793 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1455399003 83388 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a hyperfractran? Fractran using root/log/exp/pow instead of mul/div? < 1455399004 633892 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: hmm < 1455399036 542037 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq6eft_XpI is from a well-reputed youtuber < 1455399054 433165 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rulebooks are http://wizkidsgames.com/wp-content/uploads/mage/MK_rulebook_ENG_searchable-mar2012.pdf (base) and http://wizkidsgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mk-lost-legion-rulebook-en.pdf (expansion) < 1455399064 160803 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a startup guide book but I don't have a link handy < 1455399672 486873 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1455399672 720501 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we are entirely opposed to any form of discrimination. against this background, the european union. < 1455399866 422883 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What would be a good way to implement IO in fractran I wonder... < 1455399915 723477 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So you're fine with discrimination against persons with a non-EU background? < 1455399916 562881 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mr president, i would remind you that we had in austria. this measure will be subject to thorough control on the sale of potentially infected susceptible animals, and stepping up monitoring at all levels business, political and cultural integration of the environment is to be quantifiable, and governments need to obtain the consumer's explicit consent to receive a loan in the amount we had requested. it is the po < 1455399982 19029 :groteworld!~textual@c-68-50-46-3.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455400128 805032 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fractions with particular (prime) denominators have certain effects when invoked < 1455400141 96841 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Perhaps that'll work < 1455400172 392590 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: A more simple way, of course, would be to get batch input at program initialization, but that would also be less fun < 1455400195 277441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1455400309 857975 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1455400373 835961 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm building a Canadian snack pack. a snacanapack. < 1455400447 366165 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Something I thought of was to use complex numbers and make the imaginary coefficient the "specialty flag" < 1455400492 716204 :groteworld!~textual@c-68-50-46-3.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Big gulps? Well see you later! < 1455400500 443080 :jaboja!~jaboja@emh138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455400700 513658 :jaboja!~jaboja@emh138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455400978 95270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh? time to have another snackswap? < 1455401007 822708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme know. g2g. < 1455401030 794310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup! I got exclusive limited edition stuff! < 1455401055 147813 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455401309 33587 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455402038 460110 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1455402523 439786 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ohh < 1455402530 936839 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I participate. I'll just send maple cookies < 1455402597 404263 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maple cookies are quintessential. quintopessentia. < 1455403139 669901 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1455403195 355398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1455403215 673424 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hellolsner. what's that Swedish February Pastry Day again? < 1455403227 274750 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boheily < 1455404025 635342 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 it's more like, [...] <-- even your explanation is oversimplified. the thing about gravitational waves is that unlike electromagnetic ones they _themselves_ have the "charge" they act upon (energy/momentum), so they interact with _themselves_. < 1455404025 815577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455404121 993856 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455404166 575830 :jaboja!~jaboja@emh138.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455404176 786579 :heroux!bel3atar@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455404938 790686 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves Newton. it's wrong, but it provides a conforting illusion of understanding what the fungot is going on.
< 1455404940 78280 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the council has finally agreed to things which have been taking place produce results within the union over the next two or three chapters will remain for the danish presidency once again and quite forcefully, that energy is not a general and global nature and simply referring to a single species of cormorant and, on the contrary, it tries to fnord public opinion among israel’s civil population, which is also constantl < 1455404961 34816 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Newton? < 1455404968 315108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean Newtonian mechanics < 1455404977 638893 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: JUST DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN YOUR GPS STOPS WORKING HTH < 1455404988 948024 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY. < 1455405015 377769 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 or so some physicists hypothesize < 1455405015 520188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455405041 538774 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why I seem to have an anti-GPS aura... they always break when I'm around. < 1455405049 712172 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1455405064 951430 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really. if you want to experience a sudden lack of signal, stick you GPS next to me. < 1455405070 445685 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you distantly related to wolfgang pauli < 1455405103 304086 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably very distantly, but the possibility isn't completely excluded. < 1455405477 271956 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455405492 777914 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the primary weapon used by the military of the esoerotic empire? < 1455405565 338424 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not sure what it is, but it's shape is obvious. < 1455405613 846615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bananery? < 1455405658 979705 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a hint of mushroom. < 1455405672 385627 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapole! < 1455405748 163849 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What actually happens if you base a type system on Fuzzy Logic? < 1455405901 299422 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It becomes fuzzy. < 1455405957 124270 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: And what does that mean? < 1455406060 686120 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It manifests itself in the real, logical world, and becomes fuzzy. Like kittens. < 1455406081 189192 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1455406148 719305 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type system = kitten. < 1455406184 498797 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Sure < 1455406195 589034 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sticks a cat ear headband on fungot
< 1455406196 371434 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, i would just point out that the question of the gas and electricity sectors. we should also remember that the council vote was unanimous. i was rushing out not to avoid double taxation of workers, we can see what happened no one is intending and the commissioner for his spontaneous reply and, of course, in part, 71, 72 and 73. 52 amendments are acceptable in principle, to market monitoring and the european < 1455406196 643851 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Maybe we should invent a cross-language type system called "kitten" < 1455406201 515271 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? type system < 1455406212 305137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type system? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455406218 658375 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: unfortunately the name kitten is taken my another programming language < 1455406231 675359 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By* < 1455406235 214702 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Ah < 1455406249 753793 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Maybe we should invent a cross-language type system /not/ called "kitten" < 1455406254 206321 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn type system/type system = kitten < 1455406264 895324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «type system» < 1455406305 834641 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: What would be good for a cross-language type system of that sort? < 1455406356 153736 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A name? < 1455406405 849849 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: KTS < 1455406417 742837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kitten Type System) < 1455406429 870650 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with the type system of the Kitten Programming Language < 1455406452 14212 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean... What were you asking me? < 1455406466 538702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww. I hate cross-language type systems. < 1455406468 772038 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... "Kitten Typesetting System"... < 1455406475 245884 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Wait, that's already a thing? xD < 1455406528 892895 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What's the problem with them? < 1455406640 476219 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :The kitten typesetting channel | Effi's finest fluffy waffles | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | 100% of cpus on the wall ♪ < 1455406798 515129 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we change it back to contain “The international hub of esoteric programming languages and font design” ? We can delete some of the other old stuff except for the logs links if you want to fit recent stuff in it. < 1455406843 942707 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ... < 1455406853 762623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of esoteric programming language and font design | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | The kitten typesetting channel < 1455406895 589173 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: So what's wrong with XL-TSes? < 1455406905 394804 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sorry < 1455406946 933869 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll rePDF the channel as soon as I update it. you can't silence me. MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1455406964 129402 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455407337 244015 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1455407337 619754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 132300Z 29013G25KT 15SM DRSN FEW035 FEW050 SCT110 SCT240 M24/M32 A3028 RMK SC2SC1AC1CI1 SC TR SLP260 DENSITY ALT MISG < 1455407364 563872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? is the Sun really only like 5000 K hot, rather than 6000 K ? < 1455407381 300461 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 5000. < 1455407421 736195 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SILVER CHICKEN < 1455407462 360084 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun says 5778 K < 1455407487 543238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so below the boiling point of Rhenium on standard air pressure < 1455407579 698494 :heroux!bel3atar@gateway.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1455407775 266189 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that imply? < 1455407794 165932 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-116-109-4.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Quit: LexiciScriptor < 1455407805 420900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: nothing, I just found it strange that http://what-if.xkcd.com/ said 5000 deg C < 1455407862 550108 :heroux!sandroco@gateway.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455407921 796549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that you couldn't boil the One Ring with sunlight concentrated by a lens, provided it's made of rhenium, but you might be able to melt it. < 1455407946 524470 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455407972 392638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the Company wouldn't have needed the supernaturally heated insides of Mount Doom, maybe concentrated sunlight with some lenses and mirrors would have been enough to melt the ring.