< 1453507458 811257 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just miniaturize and make faster versions of cpu designs that have expired patents
< 1453507470 633494 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila: open source cpu
< 1453507557 60986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would intend the entire computer and not only the CPU (although, CPU is also part of it)
< 1453507595 414951 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISCV
< 1453508009 217005 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1453508466 172687 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAÁAAAH!
< 1453508811 22782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do tonight?
< 1453508857 562012 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a non-isolating programming language?
< 1453509007 29653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means what?
< 1453509050 137592 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You know what an isolating language is? In linguistics?
< 1453509099 229509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I do not know, but I can learn, I can try to look it up in Wikipedia
< 1453509105 78982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: OK
< 1453509211 61618 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yxrczgorgvnduuic JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453509706 420022 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: on my last few minutes for the day. what do you tonight tonight?
< 1453509874 626084 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of language does the world need? Not necessarily for valid usage; more like a J-like language
< 1453509888 620770 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking either UsefulFuck or Fueue#
< 1453510174 848791 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :horizontime!
< 1453510186 177594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: THIN CHICKEN
< 1453511348 593597 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you implying J doesn't have uses?
< 1453511367 428970 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It certainly has uses
< 1453511382 933836 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: But how often is it seriously used in business?
< 1453511479 913739 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1453511555 796131 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's pretty esoteric
< 1453511578 300934 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That's what I meant
< 1453511599 28945 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It's used for golfing more than for serious programming
< 1453511615 644566 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, not sure about that (though possibly)
< 1453511637 278221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about serious business golfing? 
< 1453511662 879958 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow the jsoftware.com mailing lists, but I'm pretty sure it's used seriously in actual businesses
< 1453511685 58382 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: No one does that anymore
< 1453511690 940433 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean fizzie 
< 1453511696 860751 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But we used to xD
< 1453511719 102026 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it was more compiler golfing than code golfing, but that's not the point
< 1453511997 992260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Stories -- "success stories" from businesseses.
< 1453512027 539649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if there's any J users at work.
< 1453512050 505849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting the work laptop out at 1:20am doesn't appeal enough to look for any.
< 1453512227 330823 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT :
< 1453512336 689625 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453512544 883147 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am definitely a J Convert.
< 1453512558 84228 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, apl/j/k still feels like a total cult when i read about it.
< 1453512579 961903 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :some really strange ideologies about programming in those communities :/
< 1453512619 909056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: hauris
< 1453512634 622894 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, shachaf!
< 1453512638 844906 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how arechaf
< 1453512662 303608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :amchaf mauchaf
< 1453512790 532147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: if you like J, you'll love Jelly!
< 1453512886 927870 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclaimer: i think they're both really cool, just inelegant and not something i'd seriously use for code i want anyone to see
< 1453512893 424196 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(outside the context of code golf...)
< 1453512911 970092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J is interesting but I can't imagine ever learning it well enough to be able to come back to code written some time ago and understand it without a refresher in J
< 1453512916 433797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the exception of simple stuff
< 1453512940 894588 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is mauchaf the new popular #esoteric slash pairing, titwties hth hand
< 1453512957 126317 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1453513022 680623 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think part of the J mentality -- or at least the one that's popular in its community -- is just that you treat reading code very differently
< 1453513035 981761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: that is the way that i extract sympathy?
< 1453513043 291936 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked a J user "how do you even piece apart all of the @: and & and [: stuff??"
< 1453513048 38108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been part of a slash pairing before
< 1453513063 550202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than the ever-present HackEgo/shachaf "hachaf", of course
< 1453513080 370449 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they replied "i just throw the tails into the J interpreter and see what they do to the input"
< 1453513113 984774 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :was going for: "that is the worst thing i've ever said"
< 1453513183 176424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go for a juicy maurjan piece
< 1453513304 728815 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sha523 is my OTP and also my favorite cryptographic hash function
< 1453513394 650027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't get a real OTP out of a cryptographic hash function hth
< 1453513420 1759 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an      amazing crypto joke
< 1453513430 164713 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god i just got it
< 1453513592 768756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is combining your name with someone else's name Taneb-approved
< 1453513611 701634 :ais523!~ais523@31.119.235.19 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453513616 630783 :ais523!~ais523@31.119.235.19 QUIT :Changing host
< 1453513616 697395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453513725 489448 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a new library to replace ncurses
< 1453513843 397982 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? because ncurses is too complicated
< 1453513882 822293 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always been sorta disappointed in the lack of a middle ground when it comes to terminal graphics libraries
< 1453513923 75562 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems as if you either work directly with ncurses, or you work with something that has Widgets and Layers and Fields and whatever
< 1453513933 92317 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, color support is way too complex for ncurses
< 1453513952 130069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: I wrote my own curses replacement a while back
< 1453513961 618791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it was meant to be very easy to port existing curses programs to it
< 1453513988 841015 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... yah that definitely won't be the case here
< 1453514176 195085 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, this library is much more directly attached to the ANSI escape codes that it outputs
< 1453514418 889550 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. instead of writing "\e[1;32;44m" you write oiocolor(1,LIME,NAVY);
< 1453514441 209080 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 1 is the file descriptor of the terminal
< 1453514529 955428 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Language of Syntactic Odds and Ends
< 1453514543 557820 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, 15 different kinds of comment.
< 1453514561 757892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misses the Factory ABCDEF language
< 1453514809 463434 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am more than half tempted to make a valiant effort towards implementing Compute/IO
< 1453514831 304967 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god
< 1453514859 400707 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if we train Fungot on the specifications for programming languages and ask her to make a programming language?
< 1453514944 23939 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still better than PHP </low-effort-jokes>
< 1453514972 930866 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Seriously, I think we should do that
< 1453514976 904425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: I wouldn't call something a curses replacement unless it does screen addressing
< 1453514977 703605 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make an Esolang-defining robot
< 1453515024 541168 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh it does do that
< 1453515049 373109 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't optimize your output with a refresh-cycle and double buffering
< 1453515065 438507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn ANSI escape codes
< 1453515072 657050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :character encoding handling?
< 1453515077 257539 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ansi.htm
< 1453515079 676235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they're not hard, /but/ they are inconsistent between terminals
< 1453515087 73297 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, you should memorize all of unicode
< 1453515088 381244 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it only supports utf-8 right now
< 1453515094 318149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a lot of experimentation to figure out which were the most stable
< 1453515097 230110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: what if the terminal doesn't support utf-8?
< 1453515106 258002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you at least sending codes to put the terminal into UTF-8 mode?
< 1453515107 559464 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but, um. crud. what does the world do then?
< 1453515123 562028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: typically handles things badly
< 1453515124 858570 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope :P
< 1453515147 457666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original plan was to use a database called termcap/terminfo that listed the appropriate codes for each terminal
< 1453515160 779523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't work in practice because almost every terminal claims to be xterm
< 1453515183 198415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't they claim to be xterm then implement exactly xterm's escapes?
< 1453515220 82135 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm has too many
< 1453515252 443744 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ludicrous. the ones on my page are afaict the lowest common denominator 
< 1453515304 56156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: apparently the xterm devs bitch about this
< 1453515316 721615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complaining that so many emulators don't implement all the codes they're supposed to
< 1453515325 92167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, it's a case of stopping development when things seem to be working
< 1453515355 296159 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don'
< 1453515375 866355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't they not claim to be xterm then? Or is it a Mozilla UA fiasco again where everything only works with "xterm"?
< 1453515469 570703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1453515595 675093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/48.0.2564.82 Safari/537.36"
< 1453515601 493721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much of that is complete nonsense.
< 1453515654 558852 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF make up your mind as to what you are?!
< 1453515661 96366 :EasyAsShlt!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1453515722 101130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they dont want to deploy their own termcap databases
< 1453515771 718128 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453515786 5881 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who in their right mind would?!!?
< 1453515796 128817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: Well, Microsoft Edge on desktop sends "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; <64-bit tags>) AppleWebKit/<WebKit Rev> (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/<Chrome Rev> Safari/<WebKit Rev> Edge/<EdgeHTML Rev>.<Windows Build>".
< 1453515808 896370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the same lies as Chrome + Edge/X tagged on the end.
< 1453515858 606535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Chrome uses a (fork of) WebKit, unlike Edge.
< 1453515937 30894 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see.
< 1453515952 565339 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wait why do I have an underscore
< 1453515958 128771 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca NICK :\oren\
< 1453515982 437975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone actually read user agents any more?
< 1453515994 38457 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who in their right mind would?!!?
< 1453516022 732245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they still do, at least for old-IE workarounds.
< 1453516023 238163 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're nothing but a pack of lies anyway
< 1453516031 767703 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good point
< 1453516035 102670 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.>
< 1453516042 231832 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<
< 1453516057 208244 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^.^
< 1453516061 306631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/
< 1453516079 575818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that's old, it's gotten worse
< 1453516082 647280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could do with a paragraph about Edge.
< 1453516088 928986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I know
< 1453516093 143568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have a newer page about it
< 1453516100 850470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a funny and amusing enough summary as it is
< 1453516129 117048 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE11 pretends not to be MSIE but can be instructed by Microsoft to act like IE9. It can also be instructed to send the IE9 UA but apparently this isn't guaranteed, at least in one case.
< 1453516172 527024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's some sort of nominal WebKit/Blink version correspondence mapping that Chrome uses to set the WebKit revision in the UA it advertises.
< 1453516209 786035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what rendering engine does Opera use nowadays?
< 1453516210 237330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least both my Chrome/47.0.2526.80 and Chrome/48.0.2564.82 say AppleWebKit/537.36.
< 1453516222 722025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have seen this happen.
< 1453516255 490502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Opera's now built on top of Chromium.
< 1453516265 742067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Blink.
< 1453516328 439906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.52 Safari/537.36 OPR/15.0.1147.100"
< 1453516342 167545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As seen there for Opera 15.
< 1453516385 138275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course crawler-bots tend to be "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; <crawler version goes here>)".
< 1453516419 698658 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a Mozilla or Firefox reference in the HTML5 spec somewhere
< 1453516437 786726 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I've now added oiomovexy, which is a macro for oiomoveyx
< 1453516453 556439 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also called oiomove
< 1453516465 18391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My access.log has 4 visits with the user agent "null".
< 1453516474 438277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: does it swap the arguments?
< 1453516475 492222 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/NavigatorID/appCodeName
< 1453516483 434869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah
< 1453516499 581612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/NavigatorID/appName
< 1453516523 339356 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's removed from the standards but still in every browser, I guess
< 1453516574 409286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and 24 requests where the user agent is a perl script that tries to download something that's almost certainly malware.
< 1453516583 321346 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: Do not rely on this property to return a real product name. All browsers return "Mozilla" as the value of this property.
< 1453516594 722540 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF 
< 1453516644 126106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/dMGV <- nice user agent.
< 1453516652 248485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally I get browsers that try to load URLs that are on an entirely different site
< 1453516660 242458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the part that starts "() ...".)
< 1453516660 630444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably in the hope that my web server has been configured as a proxy for some reason
< 1453516669 29323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have http:// and everything
< 1453516695 500117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that reminds me a ton of the Shellshock exploit 
< 1453516721 510598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1453516729 413336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's hoping to hit a CGI-generated page
< 1453516734 636554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :old-fashioned CGI that is
< 1453516744 605412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then have the resulting page run an old verson of bash
< 1453516787 414490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also one hit from "Cloud mapping experiment. Contact [email address in pdrlabs.net]".
< 1453516873 859523 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why all my cgi is sed or C
< 1453516883 247626 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, sed)
< 1453516886 92936 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1453516887 270622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably one of the experiments that contacts every IPv4 IP to see what happens
< 1453516898 587125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it can still happen with C CGI, if the C happens to run system() (which goes via bash)
< 1453516902 34246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, their web page says they're mapping the Internet.
< 1453516926 681201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of IPv4, our home ISP started offering native IPv6 the other day. Feels very futuristic.
< 1453516952 901159 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453517026 394630 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1453517062 120648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is the download dangerous or just executing the download?
< 1453517068 83699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's in the image
< 1453517219 677248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder. I don't see anything obvious about trying to execute it or anything, just the download bit.
< 1453517249 393715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But possibly they wait for a "XSUCCESS!" reply and then send a second request that tries to run it.
< 1453517310 235823 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453517451 41639 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A programming language where the code is a matrix?
< 1453517553 647584 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A nested matrix, no less
< 1453517903 876979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quiney14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46254&oldid=39066 5* 0350.161.94.113 5* (-3) 10..Why is there a reference to parenthesis in a sea of brackets?
< 1453518047 641009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, they're probably testing to see which systems are vulnerable, in the hope of exploiting them later
< 1453518165 35583 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm those image url's don't seem to load
< 1453518241 412824 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :204.232.209.188 doesn't seem to exist
< 1453518542 57819 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, whatever
< 1453519578 781788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
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< 1453522716 774903 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453522795 922620 :iformas!bf72e384@gateway/web/freenode/ip.191.114.227.132 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1453523987 916315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if efficient byte arrays can be implemented in a JavaScript code (with any of the common implementations)?
< 1453524110 676079 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :EasyAsShlt
< 1453524264 71140 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone 'round these parts know what technique fungot uses to generate sentences?
< 1453524264 502074 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ( if x x disjunct2)) disjunct1) consequent alternative) if condition, then going back and watching old classes
< 1453524271 446113 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How /do/ you generate sentences?
< 1453524271 837243 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what annoys me is that i can't use if as a function
< 1453524295 662173 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it doesn't use IF at all, at least not as a function...
< 1453524320 481853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The back cover of this issue of 2600 includes a picture of a Japanese food container labeled "unix ware" on top of a TV set labeled "Color Television TH-2600XE"
< 1453524481 345393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fizzie knows hth (it's called "n-grams" with variable n, iirc, which is somewhat like markov chains but keeping track of n (-1?) previous words.
< 1453524486 837749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1453524527 437206 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What I want to do is take some of the rather well-written Esolangs articles and feed them to a random sentence generator xD
< 1453524529 22268 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there are pregenerated tables of probabilities for each word in a style
< 1453524530 427101 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See what happens
< 1453524565 75126 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh.  you need a rather large "corpus".  you'd probably want the _whole_ wiki as one input.
< 1453524569 822592 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it'd produce anything /usable/
< 1453524571 817067 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah
< 1453524604 439207 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are some pointers in fungot's github
< 1453524604 644520 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ( how the fuck is " data" does? i'm not following with all these rxrs... isn't scheme fnord bloated?
< 1453524607 617512 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source
< 1453524607 684234 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98
< 1453524626 158689 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd also like to feed it some REAL language specs
< 1453524634 872827 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(snip everything from blob, i guess)
< 1453524666 731201 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: note, it doesn't actually works with specs.  it works with a corpus of examples.  and it doesn't split up words.
< 1453524670 712807 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s
< 1453524696 465766 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you mean exactly? Why wouldn't it work with specs?
< 1453524724 243676 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's essentially a probabilistic FSA, so it cannot handle everything context-free (like, why fungot cannot match brackets)
< 1453524724 485457 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pass the variable's name to the argument tuple ( list a)) ( define ( fnord conn nick) language? i didn't do
< 1453524777 855312 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the model generator programs work with examples.  i guess you could try to make a model in another way.  but it would _still_ be FSA-ish.
< 1453524805 337158 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True, true
< 1453524805 533909 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: thank you for the demonstration
< 1453524805 665192 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: will follow the standard idiom won't work with any libc you want to do it. thanks
< 1453524823 334002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't want to generate a formal language; I just want it to spit out commands xD
< 1453524841 41484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's basically just a bit more advanced than the "obvious" markov generators.
< 1453525071 258912 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: btw the model is not itself in befunge, it's a separate file (or two?) that fungot does lookups in.
< 1453525071 386178 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i mean, i think) is just ( define void ( if f f)) if i'm not using zsh, you can use
< 1453525148 690701 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think fizzie had a perl version of the lookup program, or something.  one that also matched brackets, or something.
< 1453525204 364488 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for the wiki, there's also the problem of splitting things nicely into sentences for analysis.  that's the reason fungot's wikipedia style uses talk pages instead of actual articles.
< 1453525257 167855 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that some other styles have abrupt endings
< 1453525261 2934 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Tell me more about OR
< 1453525261 293381 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: would look nice anyways
< 1453525293 394252 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Huh? How is that related to OR
< 1453525293 812358 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: various :) the one that comes to mind), then i removed the first to
< 1453525328 140636 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. fungot doesn't respond to private messages.
< 1453525328 626117 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so generic-room serves no purpose other than to the prototype-based oo of ecma-script
< 1453525331 150040 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame.
< 1453525606 213282 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1453525617 485026 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fungot's commands do, but not the babble.
< 1453525617 714938 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you keep asking me stuff like that... manifest meaning having been made much easier by the assertion), rather than just define it
< 1453525636 415850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah
< 1453525659 755209 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I'll make a random generator for EF
< 1453525664 137401 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Formerly EBNF)
< 1453525673 890450 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh hm no, i checked, it does respond.
< 1453525686 463642 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Seems like an easier place to start
< 1453525716 272642 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may, however, have hit fungot's babble limit.
< 1453525716 375794 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: obviously i had drunk too much coffee or 2) they're too conservative. :)
< 1453525729 998852 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yeah, generic-room is practically useless
< 1453525730 419987 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i had fnord. the guile manual just mentions the idea of
< 1453525904 677420 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6_>2_+7:_(>3-*,
< 1453526061 659894 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that?
< 1453526107 922872 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream
< 1453526203 66938 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you're always talking about making things...where do you keep all the code?
< 1453526222 454930 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: On my computer, githubbing the good stuff
< 1453526231 35624 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I start too many projects, really
< 1453526265 835795 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing can ever keep my attention for too long; I've started hundreds of little and large projects.
< 1453526274 69029 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unfortunate :/.
< 1453526310 752145 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest xkcd doesn't seem to reach his usual standards of destruction
< 1453526346 323579 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1453526351 137790 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*xkcd what-if
< 1453526696 22924 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUUUUUUUUUNRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEE
< 1453526696 763520 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I
< 1453526697 845430 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM
< 1453526703 671134 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISAPPOINT
< 1453526707 336114 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.<
< 1453526784 81780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, what does he mean by letting most of humanity survive like that
< 1453526826 244404 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, it's the second week in a row.  maybe he's reducing standards to increas volume.
< 1453526842 646420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+e
< 1453526854 8370 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True
< 1453526858 988451 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks suspiciously at his keyboard.
< 1453526869 787871 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I submitted what I think was a pretty good question a while ago
< 1453526880 927626 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better than cars reentering the atmosphere
< 1453526895 865990 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it was a bit advanced though; not something one can just work out on a sheet of paper.
< 1453528685 698570 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain to me why this sed command isn't matching anything in the file, even though regex tester confirms the regex matches at least one line?
< 1453528704 391027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric : sed -n '/^[a-zA-Z]+\s.*/p'
< 1453528923 93634 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I'm at a loss.
< 1453528956 907151 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm not sure what elese I should put in oio.h
< 1453529003 955122 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ncurses has a lot of helpers for drawing various graphics, I guess I can add some of that
< 1453529079 447691 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using ▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█ to graph an array of integers
< 1453529106 638485 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that doesn't require any ncurses like stuff anyway
< 1453529140 768410 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, s/integers/numbers/
< 1453529215 466388 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wrong regexp style, you want at least \+
< 1453529287 477726 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, sed takes *basic* regexes!
< 1453529300 878633 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX basic regexes don't include \+.
< 1453529305 68440 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or +
< 1453529317 178028 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do include \{1,\} though.
< 1453529326 867276 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um \+ worked fine for me.
< 1453529336 491009 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i only tested that, not the rest)
< 1453529352 628087 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's a GNU extension.
< 1453529364 900582 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayhaps.
< 1453529368 507619 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which POSIX *permits* but doesn't specify.
< 1453529444 37827 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX also doesn't specify \s, the POSIXly correct version would be: sed -n '/^[a-zA-Z]\{1,\}[[:space:]].*/p'
< 1453529466 742058 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, sed -n '/^[[:alpha:]]\{1,\}[[:space:]].*/p'
< 1453529597 605053 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: adding -r might help instead
< 1453529625 668370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION honestly has no clue about the variations among non-perlish regexps
< 1453529625 759231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is -r
< 1453529632 700370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: extended regexps
< 1453529644 406263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix is so verbose
< 1453529668 921751 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's not POSIX. (sadly)
< 1453529681 19514 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't even know why, POSIX *specifies* extended regexps!)
< 1453529692 496790 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Basic is the weird one, basically.
< 1453529698 186234 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1453529732 804744 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACK
< 1453529762 523056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sed understands \s at least. the \+ worked
< 1453529774 538899 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Both are GNU extensions, not POSIX. :)
< 1453529804 393728 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, lots of stuff relies on them.
< 1453530171 676745 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :centrifᵫtal force
< 1453530180 526786 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ᵫ?
< 1453530725 961979 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm pretty sure that's unethical hth
< 1453530755 521071 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?'
< 1453530789 515098 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Go tromp! | The international hub for magic gathering and deployment. | Eﬃ's ﬁneﬆ ﬂuﬀy waﬄes | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | This part of the topic was mungled in 2016
< 1453530833 217685 :EasyAsShlt!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :Vodkode
< 1453530850 551801 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: slinging fᵫtuses around is not generally accepted behavior
< 1453530879 195220 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1453530888 905397 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear in parts of america it may get you killed hth
< 1453530890 460786 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in my day...
< 1453530901 428509 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Especially if you're black.
< 1453530974 256708 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Go tromp et al.! | The international hub for magic gathering and deployment. | Eﬃ's ﬁneﬆ ﬂuﬀy waﬄes | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ | This part of the topic was mungled in 2016
< 1453530995 482929 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was a team effort
< 1453531085 877352 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What did tromp do exactly?
< 1453531098 625881 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tromp.github.io/go/legal.html
< 1453531151 863563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh right, that
< 1453531211 515023 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, is tromp_'s last name actually tromp?
< 1453531270 147217 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make computer Go great again
< 1453531270 381909 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth
< 1453531286 700213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "John Tromp" if the WHOIS command is used
< 1453531290 74992 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1453531290 836278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I would think so
< 1453531291 552154 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. That is a truly awesome last name.
< 1453531302 236254 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tromps most other names
< 1453531307 444660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1453531314 655521 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSI screech.
< 1453531344 562472 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may have got a new favorite pun victim.
< 1453531379 430510 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep
< 1453531417 580491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would now want reviews for Magic: the Puzzling: Codex.
< 1453531507 41937 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god.
< 1453531514 372283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J has the whilst control structure.
< 1453531646 469138 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shutting down the channel now, we're through here.
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< 1453532405 308157 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what I graphed!
< 1453532407 429806 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :     █     ▅█▂█
< 1453532407 531805 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ▂ ▅█ █▅ ▅████
< 1453532408 11947 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█▂█▂██▅████████
< 1453532430 248121 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with strange square boxes in
< 1453532434 394746 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: randrange(0, 9)?
< 1453532452 5879 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, its the first 15 digits of pi!
< 1453532492 135471 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your font supports the block characters properly that is!
< 1453532498 56128 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, i would have recognized that if i could actually see all chars properly </snotty>
< 1453532647 522804 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why only 15?
< 1453532654 7320 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think lambdabot had some graphing function but i have no idea how to find it.
< 1453532670 351945 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/701168
< 1453532695 99026 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it may have been something someone temporarily coded up, anyway.
< 1453532715 168784 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list-modules
< 1453532715 351459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where
< 1453532754 682521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably in L.hs somewhere.  i just don't remember where to browse that.
< 1453532768 115686 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help pretty
< 1453532768 438084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty <expr>. Display haskell code in a pretty-printed manner
< 1453532773 978699 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :     █     ▅█▂█   ▅       ▅  ▂█
< 1453532774 45831 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ▂ ▅█ █▅ ▅████   █▂█ █▂  █  ██▅
< 1453532774 45919 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█▂█▂██▅█████████▅████▅██████▅███
< 1453532778 534204 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :more digits
< 1453532791 363424 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pretty pi*r^2
< 1453532791 591825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : pi * r ^ 2
< 1453532800 236965 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1453532919 837485 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/grph.htm
< 1453533023 759230 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the program I used
< 1453533295 96079 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :▇▇▇▇▆▆▅▄▄▃▁                                       ▁▃▄▄▅▆▆▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▆▆▅▄▄▃▁
< 1453533298 94123 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████▇▆▅▃▂▁                         ▁▂▃▅▆▇███████████████████████▇▆▅▃▂▁
< 1453533302 116433 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :███████████████████▇▆▄▃▃▂▁▁       ▁▁▂▃▃▄▆▇█████████████████████████████████████▇
< 1453533306 104612 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosine
< 1453533439 190653 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm unison font supports these pretty well too
< 1453533461 264220 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what backward font are you using?
< 1453533523 374041 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :courier new
< 1453533558 973028 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see. poor oerjan
< 1453533560 418378 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the default.
< 1453533576 399980 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a font-maniac like the rest of this channel hth
< 1453533635 753269 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although for the last one the bigger problem is that irssi wraps.
< 1453534437 9710 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do it in binary and it might actually mean something.
< 1453534440 206073 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, though.
< 1453534465 87852 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, maybe it'll help towards discovering new pimes.
< 1453534525 697339 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would, of course, contribute towards discovering new primes
< 1453535113 323874 :Moose!1816a563@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.22.165.99 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1453535513 883411 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█████▇▇▇▇▆▆▅▅▄▄▃▂▂▁                                                               ▁▂▂▃▄▄▅▅▆▆▇▇▇▇████ 1.000000
< 1453535517 841210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█████████████████████▇▆▆▅▄▃▂▂▁                                         ▁▂▂▃▄▅▆▆▇████████████████████
< 1453535521 864984 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████▇▆▆▅▄▄▃▃▂▂▁▁▁▁         ▁▁▁▁▂▂▃▃▄▄▅▆▆▇███████████████████████████████ -1.000000
< 1453535527 153723 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I modified it to add a scale to the side
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< 1453535598 931381 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ▃ ▅█ █▅ ▅████   █▃█ █▃  █  ██▅
< 1453535599 367467 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█▃█▃██▅█████████▅████▅██████▅███  0.000000
< 1453536085 263146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07THRAT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46255&oldid=46252 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3) 10Undo revision 46252 by [[Special:Contributions/50.152.193.163|50.152.193.163]] ([[User talk:50.152.193.163|talk]]) I find no evidence of this claim.
< 1453536157 176666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: discovering new primes is easy.  the hard part is finding _all_ of them.
< 1453536180 757761 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that was the point
< 1453536213 350816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a language called Sea of Brackets
< 1453536690 682366 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1453536864 120758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Minebit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46256&oldid=46253 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+47) 10unsigned begone
< 1453536871 427437 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
< 1453537016 997519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<hppavilion[1]> How about a non-isolating programming language? <-- see Perligata
< 1453537117 352445 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If it can note that you should sign your comments with ~~~~, why can't it just autosign your comments with ~~~~?
< 1453537168 542732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because your edit might not be a complete comment
< 1453537184 364379 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh right??
< 1453537194 70749 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?\?/\?/
< 1453537210 796568 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ask whoever made mediawiki. i'm sure they could have handled it better.
< 1453537214 201396 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can detect if you didn't sign your edit with ~~~~ when you should have
< 1453537250 276216 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a plugin for it.
< 1453537317 810806 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask fizzie to enable it hth
< 1453539277 177561 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.190 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453539495 797953 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CombinatorOS?
< 1453539500 75985 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKOS
< 1453539640 229632 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1453540027 473980 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can clearly tell I don't understand OSes
< 1453540052 986741 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, /maybe/ it makes sense as a format for executables?
< 1453540271 159500 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use vi or emacs?
< 1453540274 726906 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>:))
< 1453540297 741610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use what you prefer
< 1453540301 338164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use vi
< 1453540356 524382 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1453540357 464660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit
< 1453540978 184559 :Celeritas!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453541170 13338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Celerition 5*  10New user account
< 1453541236 324956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BadScript14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46257 5* 03Celerition 5* (+15) 10Created page with "This is a stub."
< 1453541300 576188 :Celeritas!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 NICK :Celerition
< 1453542193 15180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BadScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46258&oldid=46257 5* 03Celerition 5* (+104) 10
< 1453542216 669255 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing an esoteric language
< 1453542226 575847 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I add?
< 1453542351 200724 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make an IRC bot with it.
< 1453542686 16887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BadScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46259&oldid=46258 5* 03Celerition 5* (+152) 10
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< 1453543946 94660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BadScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46261&oldid=46260 5* 03Celerition 5* (+711) 10
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< 1453544033 554686 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help
< 1453544033 657566 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celerition: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information.
< 1453544033 724198 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help <command>.
< 1453544055 328450 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen hello
< 1453544059 31528 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​56 ++++++++[>+++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>.---.+++++++..+++.>++. [228]
< 1453544075 93547 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>+++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>.---.+++++++..+++.>++.
< 1453544075 348674 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1453544279 964424 :Celerition!b2f01b23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.240.27.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf -[--->+<]>-----.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.-[------>+<]>-.-[----->++<]>-.+[-->+<]>++.---[->+++<]>+.[->+++++<]>-.++[->+++<]>+.++++++++.------.+++++.-------.-[--->+<]>--.+++++[->+++<]>.---------..-[->+++<]>-.>++++++++++.++[++++>---<]>+.+++++.------.+++++.++[----->++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>.++++++++++++.------
< 1453544280 171132 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric:I'm going off. \ JOIN #fr
< 1453545361 524706 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
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< 1453545991 582364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BadScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46262&oldid=46261 5* 03Celerition 5* (-35) 10
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< 1453547489 438640 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Phantom_Hoovorning.
< 1453548017 809338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily
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< 1453554473 348332 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw firefox you gotta be fucking kidding me :(
< 1453554496 854808 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parent element has font-size 18px
< 1453554505 234326 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code { font-size: inherit; }
< 1453554519 175940 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but firefox manages to compute that code should be displayed in 12px font
< 1453554525 776885 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is insane
< 1453554530 129950 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like basic stuff :(
< 1453554671 680633 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :font-size: 1em; doesn't work either
< 1453554818 811847 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does font-size: 1em make sense?
< 1453554915 44693 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sometimes works as a hack
< 1453554923 809066 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but font-size: 100%; works neither
< 1453554943 406572 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's some weird settings on this machine
< 1453554984 660043 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work in a different context?
< 1453554994 827935 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in IE :D
< 1453555001 792759 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess i'll just switch to using IE
< 1453555211 421188 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/bCAMGni.png
< 1453555222 993995 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- main (parent of pre) has computed font-size 18px
< 1453555238 543187 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre (child of main) has font-size: 100%; but computed font-size is 12px 
< 1453555630 701502 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see if I can reproduce this in a simple html file :)
< 1453555784 486206 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/vrSs25pC
< 1453555791 916990 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can any of you guys reproduce that?
< 1453555805 525630 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at the computed sizes for body and pre
< 1453555818 117679 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computed sizes of pre should be the same as those for body since pre should inherit the size from body
< 1453555824 408165 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't inherit it properly on my firefox
< 1453555957 538837 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :16px and 13px :/
< 1453555970 11419 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :on firefox
< 1453556713 339634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the height is mismatched, but <pre style="font-size: 1em"> produces the same font size
< 1453556761 311883 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does font-size: 1em  mean anyway...
< 1453556816 931561 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a problem of courier
< 1453556827 265861 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-2-34-206-122.cust.vodafonedsl.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you change the font, the font-size is the same
< 1453557204 301457 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1453557534 78848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: check edit -> preferences -> fonts and colors -> advanced  and note that "monospace" has a smaller default size than the other fonts (16 vs 12); that corresponds to your observed difference
< 1453557789 920146 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I don't know *why* that default size is smaller... if you find a reference for that I'd be interested, but not interested enough to search for it myself)
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< 1453559526 657503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked up a couple of source code references, but none of them have seen fit to put in comments as to why it's like that.
< 1453559599 359750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The basic argument goes that your prefrerred serif font can be relatively larger to your preferred sans-serif font for example."  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84398
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< 1453560084 802127 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude
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< 1453563735 182689 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but I can't set font-sizes for specific fonts through CSS?
< 1453563759 785557 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... shouldn't the font-size apply to whatever font currently is used?
< 1453564102 724528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, there's just a "thing".
< 1453564140 11416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do "font-family: monospace,monospace;" on at least Chrome (I think also on Firefox) you'll get the logical sort of behavior.
< 1453564187 967991 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1453564190 395616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, also on Firefox (well, Iceweasel).
< 1453564192 203902 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this o_O
< 1453564200 647051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.stephenmorley.org/html-and-css/fixing-browsers-broken-monospace-font-handling/
< 1453564205 454825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just general stupidity.
< 1453564227 139148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can see how it looks "too big" (like, objectively) when you don't do the mangling.
< 1453564275 752715 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejh162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453564424 16077 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's wider than non-monospace font
< 1453564434 515080 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true.
< 1453564495 248118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my fonts, it's also taller for the lowercase letters, which is the main thing.
< 1453564509 281200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font-size-adjust
< 1453564535 731644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined in CSS 2.0, dropped in CSS 2.1, defined again in CSS 3 and implemented by almost nobody.
< 1453564578 445786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/fonts.html#propdef-font-size-adjust  has fancy sample images and all.
< 1453564667 540863 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1453564678 661505 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the parent element has it's font-size defined in px it behaves differently again
< 1453564684 549492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1453564784 476984 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that it somehow makes sense that browsers do this
< 1453564807 286508 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different fonts look different for different font-sizes
< 1453564826 91194 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so having a reference default font-size for different fonts kinda makes sense
< 1453564841 66312 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way a user can choose what default font-size pre should have
< 1453564888 245299 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fonts are bugging me at the moment :-(
< 1453564888 599055 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks a bit off if you use it inline :)
< 1453564905 9191 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then suddenly that thing in <code> is only half as high as the rest of the text
< 1453564943 645972 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll use tho double monospace hack for this then
< 1453564953 203838 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My main content and sidebar use the same font size.  The text renders the same size on Chrome for Windows, but the sidebar text is bigger than the main text on Chrome for Android :-( http://corewar.co.uk
< 1453564985 955689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAQy1NWEVHUURaVmM on my browser -- the 13px monospace looks much closer to the 16px proportional than the "same size" 16px monospace does. (The difference isn't quite as dramatic on whatever fonts and defaults Iceweasel happens to go with, where the monospace indeed looks a bit "too small".)
< 1453565060 746860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAeGQzbHduMG1CajQ -- yeah, on that thing it looks more than a bit too small.
< 1453565172 690536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does 16/12 by default (instead of Chrome's 16/13) and manages to have a much "larger-looking" proportional font.
< 1453565429 898545 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your monospace font isn't as wide as mine :)
< 1453565441 627034 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's a bit wider.
< 1453565560 623518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic_: That's weird.
< 1453565601 916556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also weird: Chrome's remote inspector window for a page in an Android device lacks the "computed" tab for styles.
< 1453566014 835086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, the sizes are identical (but the page overall doesn't look too good) if the sidebar is also position: absolute;.
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< 1453566151 662698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it will drop out of the body max-width and #content background in that case.)
< 1453566253 62475 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack overflow said I can fix it by putting "max-height: 999999px;" on everything :-)
< 1453566289 530678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds very elegant.
< 1453566412 344393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really do webdev; I'm sure there's some reasonable-looking CSS'es that would render nicely, but I don't know what they are. (Though having a @media-query rules that would just not use a sidebar at all on "narrow" devices might be worth it even if you can get the sidebar to work. It's a bit unwiedly as-is on a phone.)
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< 1453566752 746286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Quiney14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46263 5* 0350.161.94.113 5* (+100) 10/* Working on an interpreter. */ new section
< 1453567250 277236 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do webdev professionally
< 1453567256 194633 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'd suck at that.
< 1453567264 678337 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer very simple designs
< 1453567266 947724 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the CSS on my esolangs page recently
< 1453567281 131032 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/exps/1.html <- designs like that
< 1453567335 480033 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are some ingenious CSS hacks around there
< 1453567344 672951 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can completely reorder/rearrange tables with CSS
< 1453567466 157206 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's js on your esolangs page though
< 1453567499 215962 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that design looks nice and clean
< 1453567661 448799 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty crappy on a standard installation of IE though :D
< 1453567676 707175 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in my opinion
< 1453567687 835291 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's only because it has a sucky default font set
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< 1453567700 27203 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a very small font-size
< 1453567708 13017 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using 18px as my default font-size in Firefox
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< 1453567778 594736 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know but I'm having trouble reading font-sizes such as 12,13px on LCD screens
< 1453567812 188076 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IE's font rendering generally looks a bit smudged/blurry around the edges
< 1453567983 407412 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE has no font size setting o_O
< 1453567989 974765 :mroman!5c6ab8ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.184.255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably uses some windows setting then
< 1453568946 515079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Quiney14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46264&oldid=46263 5* 0350.161.94.113 5* (+2179) 10An interpreter!
< 1453569009 93628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Quiney14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46265&oldid=46264 5* 0350.161.94.113 5* (-15) 10
< 1453569303 222760 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llvm.moe/ because.
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< 1453570315 789253 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: lol, it's a moe compiler development book
< 1453570482 693834 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other kinds of graphs should my grph command support? 
< 1453570572 628654 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe labelled bar graphs?
< 1453570752 385411 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :horizontal graphs is probably a good idea
< 1453571191 119146 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOH! 2-dimensional scatterplots using the braille characters!
< 1453571799 272982 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, horizontal is kinda working, but I should add zebra striping
< 1453572049 489780 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of compiler books, anyone have some good suggestions for non-C books about building compilers.
< 1453572077 841924 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently oppressed by a mad plan, and it involves me being on the other side of knowing how to write one.
< 1453572249 158597 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the level, how about the dragon book?
< 1453572354 573034 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the dragon book was in C?
< 1453572385 740238 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "in C"?
< 1453572400 830684 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i know, it is not really bound to any language
< 1453572590 533209 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, there's a book I'm borrowing, which I've forgotten the name of, that I believe does it in C and Haskell
< 1453572607 46356 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I may've had a wrong impression then.
< 1453572709 813444 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Cool. I've been impressed thus far with the stuff I have read about language implementation in ML-family langs. I did at one point try to work through the first few chapters of Write Yourself a Scheme but I didn't have enough Haskell skills to get much out of it.
< 1453572783 755695 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really not that hard
< 1453572800 676004 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we wrote a compiler at university
< 1453572803 282390 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun
< 1453572925 430018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: 5-level 2D heatmaps with " ░▒▓█".
< 1453572942 381585 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I have to take a step back and realise that a) I'm implementing insertion sort, b) I'm doing it in Agda, and c) I've spent over an hour trying to prove that ¬ (A <= B) => B <= A
< 1453572974 157203 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :██████████ Trump
< 1453572974 301771 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :████▏      Kasich
< 1453572974 368356 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :███▌       Cruz
< 1453572974 368439 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :███▏       Rubio
< 1453572974 368472 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :██▋        Christie
< 1453572976 653204 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :██▌        Bush
< 1453572979 173424 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█▎         Paul
< 1453572981 649747 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :█▎         Fiorina
< 1453572984 200259 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :▊          Carson
< 1453572986 681280 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :▎          Huckabee
< 1453572989 217210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :▎          Santorum
< 1453573027 843958 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Hampshire polling data
< 1453573073 435351 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good idea, heatmaps
< 1453573144 870534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also do double-dense horizontal with the quadrants, though you couldn't have labels for them like that.
< 1453573172 964487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the horizontal resolution would be worse.
< 1453573177 220647 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, might be useful for comparing two sets of data
< 1453573207 918901 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: truth tables aren't THAT hard
< 1453573235 770516 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejh162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1453573239 77261 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, <= is less than or equals, not reverse implication
< 1453573243 817741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^31
< 1453573245 742070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2147483648
< 1453573252 605129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our compiler course used that book where the compiled language is called "MiniJava", and is really silly.
< 1453573254 889233 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1453573259 669634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: urgh
< 1453573262 480114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"System.out.println" is a single lexical token in it.
< 1453573285 581268 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe
< 1453573300 930603 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, in most languages it is called something like print
< 1453573328 748679 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION away
< 1453573348 464961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the MiniJava language wasn't really all that Java-like (no objects or anything), it just copied "surface forms" like that.
< 1453573352 816162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Compiler-Implementation-Andrew-Appel/dp/052182060X <- I think it's this one.
< 1453573473 112277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cambridge.org/us/features/052182060X/grammar.html -- hmm, that looks otherwise familiar, except it does have some sort of classes and inheritance.
< 1453573489 926499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm remembering that part wrong.
< 1453573526 129770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have the System.out.println thing, and the other thing where it's still "public static void main" even though public, static and void have no independent meaning.
< 1453573671 816942 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453573797 190526 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is basically C that looks like java?
< 1453574229 527184 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION back
< 1453574303 950589 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, the book is called "Implementing Programming Languages"
< 1453574574 840731 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, I think the ML version of that book is one of the ones I was looking at.
< 1453576746 873447 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1453578683 339747 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :██████████ Clinton
< 1453578683 339840 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :███████▍   Sanders
< 1453578683 606216 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.000000 ▕ 51.200001
< 1453578770 915514 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this program doesn't do labeling, I did that with paste.
< 1453578818 707706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FISHQ9+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46266 5* 03Erinius 5* (+4402) 10Created page with "'''FISHQ9+''' is a simple interpreted language created by combining the functionality of [[Deadfish]] and [[HQ9+]].  FISHQ9+ has complete backwards compatibility with deadfish..."
< 1453578879 849173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FISHQ9+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46267&oldid=46266 5* 03Erinius 5* (+0) 10Fixed categories
< 1453578933 351975 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with these "i mix up useless languages and call it a day" people?
< 1453578934 529966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46268&oldid=46241 5* 03Erinius 5* (+14) 10/* F */
< 1453579045 775924 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes, basically C tha looks like Java.
< 1453579080 957078 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :We used the same language (with some minor changes) for the compiler course I took
< 1453579112 685206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46269&oldid=46246 5* 03Erinius 5* (+14) 10
< 1453579264 667887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46270&oldid=46269 5* 03Erinius 5* (+58) 10/* General languages */
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< 1453579339 793612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it doesn't even increment the accumulator :-(
< 1453579345 244463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it does
< 1453579353 5958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does + do in that language?
< 1453579354 371289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks
< 1453579381 855531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, + is just an alias for i
< 1453579389 829632 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the most useless one is a mixup of brainfuck and hq9+ where the + operator of hq9+ is not present
< 1453579390 51618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means it's not useless, which misses half the point of HQ9+
< 1453579402 150796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not useless, it embeds bf
< 1453579422 241123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless, rather than useless
< 1453579430 470770 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it still is more hq9 and bf rather than hq9+ and bf
< 1453579458 99293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me think about how I'd mix HQ9+ and BF if I wanted to do it properly
< 1453579486 462546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd try to move in the golfing language direction
< 1453579497 745158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use BF's 8 characters, encoded as octal digits
< 1453579515 604559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then have hello-worldy, quiny, etc. behaviour on invalid programs
< 1453579521 233967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as < or [[+]
< 1453579542 823352 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejh162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453579610 994088 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wouldn't always mess up the wiki syntax for talk pages, i'd complain there
< 1453579642 494936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again, he probably wouldnkt even read that
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< 1453580511 182029 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1234567890-=][oiytrewqasdfghjkl;'/.,mnbvcxz
< 1453580525 137700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/1234567890-=][oiytrewqasdfghjkl;'/.,mnbvcxz: No such file or directory
< 1453580532 313454 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree
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< 1453582730 538317 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?
< 1453582732 265222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1453582734 121942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``
< 1453582735 159785 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1453582737 773910 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``help
< 1453582738 356103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `help: not found
< 1453582740 681274 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1453582740 795502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1453582776 73824 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.orenwatson.be/grph.c
< 1453582778 315974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-01-23 20:59:37 URL:http://www.orenwatson.be/grph.c [1835/1835] -> "grph.c" [1]
< 1453582796 978364 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``gcc grph.c -o grph
< 1453582797 898180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `gcc: not found
< 1453582801 809413 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``cc grph.c -o grph
< 1453582802 468562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `cc: not found
< 1453582809 32541 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc grph.c -o grph
< 1453582809 105999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want "`` gcc"
< 1453582811 972129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<stdin>:1:5: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘.’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1453582814 288566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cc, for that matter.
< 1453582829 255547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also remember you won't get multiple lines of output.
< 1453582835 151338 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc grph.c -o grph
< 1453582858 105691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1453582877 210885 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./grph <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453582879 126540 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​   ▂█ \   ▄██ \  ▆███
< 1453582889 894599 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./grph -h 1 <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453582890 591546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  \ ▎ \ ▌ \ ▊ \ █
< 1453582900 699572 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./grph 1 <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453582901 443034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ▂▄▆█
< 1453582926 201608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/int h = 3/int h = 1/' grph.c
< 1453582928 897646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1453582942 900965 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453582943 875705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc grph.c -o bin/grph
< 1453582947 228705 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea
< 1453582947 636205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1453582979 618467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although for even more HackEgo compatibility, you might make it (or a wrapper script) take inputs from the command line.
< 1453583000 178961 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./grph -z 1 <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453583000 931840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[32m [31m▂[32m▄[31m▆[32m█[0m
< 1453583007 613175 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./grph -zc <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453583008 406021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[44m[32m [31m [32m [31m▂[32m█[0m \ [44m[32m [31m [32m▄[31m█[32m█[0m \ [44m[32m [31m▆[32m█[31m█[32m█[0m
< 1453583017 57854 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grph -zc <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453583017 770225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[44m[32m [31m▂[32m▄[31m▆[32m█[0m
< 1453583052 307383 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grph -c <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453583053 381754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[44m ▂▄▆█[0m
< 1453583060 16227 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grph -cl <<<"0 1 2 3 4"
< 1453583060 871207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[44m ▂▄▆█[0m 4.000000 0.000000
< 1453583074 144021 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :options seem to work ok
< 1453583094 174499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The colors might be more portable with mIRC-style ^c escapes.
< 1453583196 393333 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know those
< 1453583232 106529 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blue color is mainly to show where the top and bottom of the graph is
< 1453583252 585080 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the red and green show the bounda between values
< 1453583315 857902 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejh162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1453583319 846069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's very festive.
< 1453583325 413174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the holiday season is already over.
< 1453583555 132489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'they \x033,2go \x035like \x033this\x03 -- that is to say, byte 03 followed by decimal "F" or "F,B" for foreground or foreground/background colors, with a somewhat different color palette, and a plain \\x03 without digits to reset.'
< 1453583555 935654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they 3,2go 5like 3this -- that is to say, byte 03 followed by decimal "F" or "F,B" for foreground or foreground/background colors, with a somewhat different color palette, and a plain \x03 without digits to reset.
< 1453583626 826124 :dcentral!~IGLC@2601:680:c400:e360:ac1f:187d:eaa1:61bf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1453583637 214721 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also worth mentioning that the control bytes are mnemonic: ^Color, ^Original, etc
< 1453583662 760600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. (So ^o also resets the color, among other formatting.)
< 1453583763 729795 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : but it appears that hackego alread translates ANSI to mIRC colors
< 1453583810 622000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't.
< 1453583825 554662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else along the way from HackEgo might, but HackEgo doesn't.
< 1453583852 616097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're ANSI escapes in my client logs.
< 1453583857 5616 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, irssi jsut lets ANSI sequences through?!?!
< 1453583875 954203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall it has a whitelist.
< 1453583896 340638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "safe" escapes.
< 1453583945 630832 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf '\e[Afoo\e[Bbar'
< 1453583946 360253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[Afoo[Bbar
< 1453583980 721988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly even, instead of passing them through, it might've parsed them into some intermediate form, and then back again to ANSI escapes by the text frontend.
< 1453583986 675349 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, I believe irssi accepts both mIRC and ANSI escape sequences
< 1453583994 732994 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks very messy for me in weechat FWIW
< 1453584011 506815 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[Dbar'
< 1453584012 292641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[Dbar
< 1453584013 600642 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xen.firefly.nu/up/2016-01-23_222003.png
< 1453584044 188056 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[38,126mbar'
< 1453584044 888507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[38,126mbar
< 1453584054 10432 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\x33[38,126mbar'
< 1453584055 6177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo3[38,126mbar
< 1453584062 162765 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you want a semicolon rather than comma?
< 1453584068 370892 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[38;126mbar'
< 1453584069 373922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[38;126mbar
< 1453584070 117965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the strip_codes function just parses them into a thing.
< 1453584079 264038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has a 24-bit truecolor escape code, which I didn't know about.
< 1453584091 351937 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[3mbar'
< 1453584092 43037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[3mbar
< 1453584111 187036 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[7mbar'
< 1453584111 994647 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[7mbar
< 1453584123 440526 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated
< 1453584130 66136 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[7;1;42mbar'
< 1453584130 873512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[7;1;42mbar
< 1453584140 186246 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[7;1;42;30mbar'
< 1453584140 891319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[7;1;42;30mbar
< 1453584149 98770 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[7;1;32;40mbar'
< 1453584149 989093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[7;1;32;40mbar
< 1453584162 806436 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[7;32;40mbar'
< 1453584163 736737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[7;32;40mbar
< 1453584173 177244 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, the 24-bit one is from Konsole I believe, but has become rather popular nowadays
< 1453584193 763233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453584231 729987 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-004-099.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453584326 376963 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm building a GCC cross-compiler with cygwin
< 1453584328 122830 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[38;2;0;191;255mbar'
< 1453584328 998110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[38;2;0;191;255mbar
< 1453584329 869798 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have touched grace
< 1453584348 269527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I mean, yes, terminals have that, but irssi also has an irssi-specific format for that, \x04#<something>.
< 1453584369 685053 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :either irssi or my teminal doesn't have the ansi 24 bit sequence
< 1453584383 205378 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh. huh.
< 1453584388 231981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it supports the escape sequence form.
< 1453584399 445758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I didn't read get_ansi_color that closely.
< 1453584424 235211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The custom one is only compiled in if TERM_TRUECOLOR is set, which seems to need a not-on-by-default --enable-true-color to configure.
< 1453584426 762012 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[38;5;88mbar'
< 1453584427 456578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[38;5;88mbar
< 1453584446 547535 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[48;5;88mbar'
< 1453584447 158886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[48;5;88mbar
< 1453584470 356083 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[5mbar'
< 1453584470 988338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[5mbar
< 1453584474 923975 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1453584482 161672 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'foo\e[6mbar'
< 1453584482 710222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[6mbar
< 1453584487 130927 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddammitalltohell, I hate when I do that. Always bookmark a link you want to see again.
< 1453584512 776757 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always bookmark or download
< 1453584525 393383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does support the escape form too, but that also needs the TERM_TRUECOLOR flag on.
< 1453584535 499884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The blinking works fine for me, incidentally.
< 1453584541 334311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "fine" is maybe not the right word.
< 1453584544 282917 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a book on writing compilers in F# the other night, and now I can't find it again.
< 1453584556 329434 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss full-text history searching. :(
< 1453584568 913393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all decomposed to irssi's own flags (GUI_PRINT_FLAG_BLINK and so on), so it's not just passing escape codes through.
< 1453584605 17284 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: If you do find it, could you send me the linky?
< 1453584611 532463 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happily.
< 1453584625 709555 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1453584637 946008 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I need to do now is learn F# xD
< 1453584749 870577 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! Found it. Retracing my steps found this: http://www.itu.dk/~sestoft/plc/
< 1453584914 616478 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also discovered the full text of Bornat's "Understanding and Writing Compilers: A do-it-yourself guide" from 1977. It's in BCPL!
< 1453584952 160209 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay bcpl!
< 1453585022 801708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. It's supposed to read 24-bit colors in all cases and interpolate (with quite a lot of code, in fact) back to the 256-color format. But I can't make that work.
< 1453585084 734075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. I'm using this rxvt-unicode anyway, and it does the 88-color thing, which always confuses everything.
< 1453585128 389216 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCPL is officially 50 years old this year.
< 1453585139 701870 :impomatic_!~digital_w@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk
< 1453585153 843791 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before c's parent language
< 1453585276 111283 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-67-218.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://projects.exeter.ac.uk/BCPL/WindowsBCPL.htm
< 1453585335 633921 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the neighbors are partying about twice a week.
< 1453585445 564828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls
< 1453585448 104067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops.
< 1453585481 477804 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are no files in the channel.  unless someone smuggled one in with a cake.
< 1453585529 419601 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ----###
< 1453585563 950245 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that file looks suspiciously like a swatter
< 1453585576 806596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1453585710 56339 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Ugh
< 1453585710 884392 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/mvJa36Sa
< 1453585723 668744 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't get binutils to compile with make
< 1453585728 843591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the correct thing to say would be
< 1453585739 624301 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I type make and it spits out the above error
< 1453585748 33917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not aware of any terminal emulator but Konsole that does 24-bit color
< 1453585754 857686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually renders it as such
< 1453585862 428476 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejh162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1453585917 870439 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I won a tournamant in angry birds
< 1453585980 427861 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d -> text [" ▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█" !! (round ((x - m) / (maximum d - m) * 8)) | let m = minimum d, x <- d]) $ map (cos.(/2)) [0..32]
< 1453585982 559014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ██▆▄▂▁  ▁▃▅▇██▇▅▃▂  ▁▂▄▆▇██▆▅▃▁
< 1453586012 912224 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d -> text [" ▁▂▃▄▅▆▇█" !! (round ((x - m) / (maximum d - m) * 8)) | let m = minimum d, x <- d]) $ map (^2) [0..32]
< 1453586014 987565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :          ▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▂▃▃▃▃▄▄▄▅▅▆▆▇▇██
< 1453586041 219903 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn int-e is probably not here
< 1453586118 837558 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok so my terminal only supports the 38;5;Nm sequence 
< 1453586123 914107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728#now-supporting-truecolour lists 8 + everything on libvte since 0.36.
< 1453586139 286338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1453586167 893329 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e does lambdabot have a permanent function for single line function graphs or was that just something someone made on the fly
< 1453586168 375379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1453586192 614347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can verify that at least 'st' does; don't know of the rest.
< 1453586205 4291 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :liars! mintty doens't support 38;2;R;G;B!
< 1453586230 964537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of considered switching to st, but it's got that "recompile it to configure" thing, and I'd rather install it from the Debian package.
< 1453586231 284486 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not on windows
< 1453586256 33068 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I like pietty
< 1453586281 840172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it doesn't support at all the "make 'bold' stuff just bright, don't switch to a bold font" option, which I've already gotten quite used to.
< 1453586314 149437 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that sucks
< 1453586322 688824 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :even putty supports that iirc
< 1453586342 57283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :rxvt-unicode "supports" it by letting you explicitly define the font used for bold.
< 1453586360 45666 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :comic sans
< 1453586391 272456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if fontconfig can do per-program rules. It's complicated enough to make that a possibility.
< 1453586463 481066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's the FONTCONFIG_FILE envvar.
< 1453586468 380377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gets a bit complicated that way.
< 1453586529 108285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the "light gray" color is too bright, and they don't believe in resources, just in a config.h.
< 1453586637 672724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truecolor in a terminal looks weird anyway. Like if you had a black-and-white comic and then some parts were in color.
< 1453586693 198571 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really common though
< 1453586712 102922 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :most comics have a color part in the first few pages
< 1453586743 121991 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes just the first page
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< 1453586785 229773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant more like within an otherwise black-and-white panel.
< 1453586796 689714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, these colors look so garish.
< 1453586815 282502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: xkcd does that sometimes, it doesn't look too bad
< 1453586859 126007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the block-drawing characters don't form solid surfaces, there are thin lines showing the character cells.
< 1453586871 985444 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh
< 1453586888 750590 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's partially dependent on your font
< 1453586899 166381 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi graue!
< 1453586908 316664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the same font works just fine in rxvt-unicode.
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< 1453587007 859227 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. sounds like they haven't done much UAT
< 1453587095 891027 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :<fizzie> ais523: https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728#now-supporting-truecolour lists 8 + everything on libvte since 0.36.  ← also anything based on libvterm (which is basically pangoterm and neovim's built-in terminal, AFAIK), and ToaruOS's terminal emulator
< 1453587125 457693 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ＡＢＣＤＥＦ
< 1453587138 487957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about PuTTY? thats a big one
< 1453587152 271147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, it doesn't
< 1453587157 104163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a list of terminals that don't too
< 1453587172 641934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAWnRpMTBfV0JEUE0
< 1453587174 28120 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. although pietty supports the 38;5;Nm
< 1453587210 878514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that looked like self-contained code to me, fwiw
< 1453587239 375224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I assume there's no way to write a truecolor code that will be ignored by all commonly used terminals that don't support it?
< 1453587248 480424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colons version of the code might work for that I guess
< 1453587264 976058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but the colons version seems less supported as well.
< 1453587277 420906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, then it'd be the colon version I think
< 1453587279 501895 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not what mauris did, something i remember from earlier
< 1453587308 203480 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had lines not blocks
< 1453587311 868740 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: duuuude you have a ginormous monitor
< 1453587328 457117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 1920 by 1200, that's not big these days.
< 1453587361 285430 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, those look nice
< 1453587368 706330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're selling 3840x2160 ones now.
< 1453587371 967541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For $500.
< 1453587382 716265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a line-plot thingy in J using braille
< 1453587387 124496 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1453587398 73555 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it looks big on my 1366x768
< 1453587424 818407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't ring a bell
< 1453587429 771285 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot sin i:4j80  NB. does this work?
< 1453587430 478454 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: |value error: sin
< 1453587430 548990 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: |   plot     sin i:4j80
< 1453587436 475963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:4j80  NB. does this work?
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< 1453587441 272069 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat
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< 1453587461 861350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a bit sad that they went all 16:9 instead of 16:10, because 16:10 lets you have a full-width 16:9 video + some space left over for controls.
< 1453587506 591148 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :works
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< 1453587525 64241 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, good point
< 1453587569 901922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I guess the argument is that you won't keep the controls visible all the time anyway, because they'd be distracting, so if they need to be auto-hide anyway, they can just be on top.
< 1453587644 402018 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:4j80
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< 1453587671 603055 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:40j80
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< 1453587681 88436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :very high-frequency
< 1453587690 45708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still I think it would help to have a separate space for the OSD so that it does not overlap the movie picture
< 1453587691 361073 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ i:4j80
< 1453587692 178055 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: _4 _3.9 _3.8 _3.7 _3.6 _3.5 _3.4 _3.3 _3.2 _3.1 _3 _2.9 _2.8 _2.7 _2.6 _2.5 _2.4 _2.3 _2.2 _2.1 _2 _1.9 _1.8 _1.7 _1.6 _1.5 _1.4 _1.3 _1.2 _1.1 _1 _0.9 _0.8 _0.7 _0.6 _0.5 _0.4 _0.3 _0.2 _0.1 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 2 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9 3 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 3.8 3.9 4
< 1453587695 360595 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:1639j80
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< 1453587699 358288 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might help to see what's happening
< 1453587720 5733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aliasing! 
< 1453587720 496717 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i:4 is _4 _3 _2 _1 0 1 2 3 4
< 1453587755 102050 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit hacky, but if the parameter is complex then the imaginary part gives the #elements to use instead of the default amount
< 1453587757 449118 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what number do you have to choose so that it makes one phith of a full circle each time?
< 1453587785 387800 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:4j160
< 1453587786 113988 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ⠢⠤⠤⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⠤⠤⠔⠒⠒⠊⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠑⠒⠒⠢⠤⠤⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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< 1453587805 69558 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... that looks kind of interesting.
< 1453587813 237388 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:4j4
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< 1453587818 628704 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ plot 1&o. i:4j8
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< 1453587826 85881 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parfait
< 1453587827 153679 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see anything :(
< 1453587838 853340 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs to have vertical lines
< 1453587844 74809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's braille -- maybe try touching your screen? 
< 1453587854 709622 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: right.. never bothered with that :\
< 1453587870 677227 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This j-bot functionality should be perfect for people like mauris who can't see anything!
< 1453587879 198989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: try using a font that has braille
< 1453587972 13808 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ms gothic has braille
< 1453587985 397265 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... for some reason
< 1453587988 195695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which aspect ratios do you think I should need to be supported in Digi-RGB? At first I had only 4:3 and 16:9 but now I can think also to include 5:4 and 16:10 as well; do you expect that is sufficient?
< 1453588003 181839 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Digi-RGB?
< 1453588031 305741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A new kind of video interface connection
< 1453588032 605829 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, no wait, it's falling back. uh...
< 1453588105 309641 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is it meant for?
< 1453588118 886114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the design goals? it's hard to answer your question without knowing
< 1453588206 621162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The design goal is to be simple and one-way communications for digital RGB signal; the signal is four red, four green, four blue, one clock, one sync, and each pixel is two clock cycles. Electrical specification and physical specification are not yet written though, only the data is. It is meant to be alternative of VGA and HDMI and DisplayPort (because HDMI is stupid)
< 1453588323 947155 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, well it's probably good to include 5:4 and 16:10
< 1453588332 865826 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly realizes someone might think the channel topic refers to a misspelled candidate
< 1453588409 445075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also Digi-RGB-Plus which adds stereo analog audio and one reverse signal for commands, but it is a requirement that you can use a cable between Digi-RGB and Digi-RGB-Plus in both ways and that it is still guaranteed to work if the command signal is not used or if some commands are not implemented.
< 1453588429 826778 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, it doesn't say "Tromp for president!" ... yet!
< 1453588505 949808 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The depressing files were not so popular, I guess.
< 1453588523 213059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes but do you expect these four aspect ratios are sufficient?
< 1453588591 100917 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. At least, I can't think of any other common aspect ratio off the top of my head
< 1453588600 28459 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for desktop/laptop use
< 1453588617 112266 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :With portable game consoles/phones I imagine it could vary a bit more
< 1453588626 939811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be used with television as well as computer
< 1453589038 581409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DCI 2K/4K movie standards have an 256:135 aspect ratio (4096x2160 for the 4K variant), but I don't know if that's very relevant for monitors. I did some with that resolution for sale, though.
< 1453589098 153105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For simplicity I do not want to add too many aspect ratios, and anyways the picture could be letterboxed if necessary.
< 1453589169 325110 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use "end of row" and "end of frame" markers in order to support any aspect ratio!
< 1453589172 141497 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NB: may be a bad idea.
< 1453589181 366000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, some aspect ratios cannot be added, because it is necessary for each aspect ratio to have a different squarefree core.
< 1453589241 443991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "end of frame" marker already exist it is what I called the "sync" signal above
< 1453589492 934632 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of the perfect response to mauris.
< 1453589508 155589 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's Braille; I don't understand the problem."
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< 1453589549 260972 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha
< 1453590463 272441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you do Magic: the Puzzling? I hope you do, because I would need help with the codex
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< 1453591032 374629 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION briefly imagines trump vs. sanders
< 1453591329 714969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the possibility of that is definitely significantly nonzero
< 1453591334 891919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, *probability
< 1453591349 888536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, that doesn't mean it's all that high
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< 1453591669 482710 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump vs. sanders would be the most ideologically polarized election since like, i dunno... did Hitler even run against a communist?
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< 1453591690 430134 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/even/ever/
< 1453591717 281051 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Opal Titan as printed says it activates whenever an opponent "successfully casts a creature spell".
< 1453591731 818989 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which raises the obvious question of what "successfully casts" means.
< 1453591786 46674 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what does "successfully throw a ball at Tom's head" mean? Does it merely mean that you've succeeded in thrown the ball, or does it mean you've actually hit Tom's head?
< 1453591794 792267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "successfully cast" is the last step of casting a spell
< 1453591801 175678 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer, it turns out, is that "successfully casts" means "casts".
< 1453591854 366000 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it activates even if the played creature is immediately removed from the game?
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< 1453591889 982408 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It activates even if the opponent somehow loses the game immediately after casting the spell.
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< 1453591978 884309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we construct a circumstance in which casting a spell causes a player to lose the game?
< 1453591991 193608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's easy, you cast a spell where you pay life as an additional or alternative cost
< 1453592003 659964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay /all/ of it and then lose as an SBA just after it finishes casting
< 1453592009 142014 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, there you go.
< 1453592046 658848 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, state-based actions are faster than the enstacking of triggered abilities, right?
< 1453592067 91060 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or EoTA.)
< 1453592163 354457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're slower, but am not sure if there's ever a situation where it matters
< 1453592179 700079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have abilities that say "whenever a player casts a spell, as long as this ability is on the stack, players don't lost the game for having 0 or less life"
< 1453592201 218471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because most players wouldn't understand them
< 1453592459 244085 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I played Magic in middle school, we used a literal stack of instant cards
< 1453592702 650402 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and occasionally when a creature card's ability was played we pu that whole creature card on the stack
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