< 1452729772 720226 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1452734146 346824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1452734692 241966 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dy < 1452734699 270296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452734713 139522 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn dy/dx = y < 1452734717 289723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «dy» < 1452734719 713526 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dy < 1452734723 576740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dx = y < 1452734732 263697 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah whatever. < 1452734775 84902 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very generally true. < 1452734859 121626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only moderately generally true? < 1452734936 603101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's true for a small, but important set of functions. < 1452734985 795504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please explain and expand twh < 1452735004 270626 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = C*exp(x) hth < 1452735013 451878 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :th < 1452735035 174588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1452735074 752650 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn hth is short for "hang that heretic". < 1452735075 468532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm glad we have an expert here to explicate an express answer < 1452735097 62959 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is quite the exponent of mathematics. < 1452735099 571787 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hey don't reveal my secrets tdnh < 1452735152 385379 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math**math = oerjan < 1452735153 779421 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION trying to remember the elegant proof of that fact he learned in differential equations class (maybe) < 1452735165 758203 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh = "that wicked heretic!" < 1452735177 372558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is such an expert that e, to the xth degree, explodes with these expressions < 1452735194 486900 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh = "that demonic, nasty heretic!" < 1452735299 152274 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`foolishness < 1452735301 507626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: foolishness: not found < 1452735305 598198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: come on, not even a poke from the flypoker? < 1452735306 920713 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1452735321 761989 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452735335 996931 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1452735393 378376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu u du < 1452735492 291276 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: bth < 1452735516 151530 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh = that dirty heretic? < 1452735518 560790 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obvious what "btw" stands for. < 1452735571 234567 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: rofl < 1452735592 622652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: omgroflmao < 1452735606 199336 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(exp(-x) * y)/dx = exp(-x) * dy/dx - exp(-x) * y = 0 => exp(-x) * y = C < 1452735615 552640 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that. < 1452735752 205655 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i consider those alliterations, not puns. no poke, hth < 1452735849 142060 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's obvious what "btw" stands for. <-- obviously. btw do you happen to weigh more or less than a duck twh < 1452735867 196485 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? btw < 1452735869 298168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452735897 682226 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn btw is short for "burn the witch". < 1452735900 844367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'btw': btw is short for "burn the witch". < 1452735988 907647 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls his mother couldn't visit swimming pools because she sank like a stone. so i guess she wasn't a witch, despite all the divinations. < 1452736040 156952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WRONG < 1452736041 724933 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, something like that. < 1452736049 87131 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn btw is short for "bury the weasel" < 1452736051 339737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'btw': btw is short for "bury the weasel" < 1452736051 772085 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh. < 1452736072 895134 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: excuse me, you are ruining tswett's joke tdnh < 1452736103 170803 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aamof, tdh a yjct < 1452736106 807960 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :byd < 1452736128 445824 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you thought that when omgroflmaoing, i'm wondering about your sense of humor. < 1452736142 179469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("as a matter of fact, that did help and you just can't tell") < 1452736164 118015 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i was just getting to the a < 1452736180 656752 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: When I said "omgroflmao", I wanted him to decrypt it xD < 1452736193 637536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1452736280 904713 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma make a programming language entirely like all known programming languages < 1452736291 170239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1452736296 141241 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the anti-intercal < 1452736318 558305 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Including INTERCAL < 1452736324 772552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, thought I said "including INTERCAL" < 1452736340 498736 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I started the message with a slash forgetting that that commands it < 1452736361 362891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1452736425 602349 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: A language following the philosophy of intercal, but that includes INTERCAL in what it wants to avoid < 1452736445 136893 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, it has some modern languages (e.g. PROLOG and Haskell and Python) in mind in its design < 1452736457 594233 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So it's derived from taking that and not being like it < 1452736461 421901 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that makes any sense < 1452736474 47802 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it: INTERCAL 2.sqrt(5) < 1452736551 39275 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um in that case i think you mistyped your original sentence because it clearly says "like" hth < 1452736569 421361 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "unlike" < 1452736570 574756 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1452736572 757814 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1452736585 691465 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was more interesting with "like" somehow < 1452736586 479813 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But "entirely like" is also a good idea for a language < 1452736600 866633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I can see how that idea would be interesting. < 1452736601 43385 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, intercal is already done. < 1452736607 454425 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But not with modern languages < 1452736616 163851 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: INTERCAL is a period piece < 1452736670 880041 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like the Wishbone of esoprogramming- adapting a classic to those who grew up on more "modern" material < 1452737003 443649 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1452737728 302560 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea for INTERCAL 2.sqrt(5) < 1452737768 953264 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two new operators < 1452737772 177843 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Label and Delabel < 1452737796 729949 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Label is written ['labelname'] < 1452737816 657462 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delabel is written #'labelname' or something like that < 1452737839 7563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delabel JUMPs within the AST (so more complicated than an ASM jump) to the DELABEL < 1452737847 95707 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs the program from there until it GIVE UPs < 1452737904 230972 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, the exit code is produced from the earlier $'labelname' subexpression < 1452737916 146985 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something along those lines < 1452737975 466084 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1452737990 734165 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*#'labelname' < 1452738123 929001 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly, another kind of label that behaves like this: (5{'lab'}-1)+('lab'#0) < 1452738144 340799 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's equal to 5+4+3+2+1+0 = 15 < 1452738152 34002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In-expression label. < 1452738482 724305 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452738763 559174 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea for an Esolang < 1452738767 141278 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple languages < 1452738793 305156 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the languages use a persistent interpreter that uses previous languages to mess with newer languages < 1452738809 954341 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a language where every program is a polyglot < 1452738817 413253 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except function calls must be from one language to the other < 1452739974 866505 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1452740027 682823 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1452740484 110223 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452740793 538344 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1452741084 15296 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1452741448 803781 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452741520 636070 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1452741576 770352 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452741654 735813 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452741691 786385 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452742474 709334 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452743936 712328 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452744012 82163 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1452744072 774292 :rifter__!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452744312 774975 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1452744726 217030 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1452744779 759611 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1452744953 911263 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452746671 242095 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: are you familiar with call/cc? < 1452746744 424408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i call/cc-with-current-continuation < 1452747274 312362 :rifter__!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452747293 37400 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452747645 434152 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call/cc call/cc) < 1452747661 165821 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops did I just break everything? < 1452747762 37569 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: no, that's fine see https://esolangs.org/wiki/Subtle_cough < 1452747800 689952 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc)) you need to watch out for. < 1452749681 266548 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *mind blown* < 1452750353 303202 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BOOM* < 1452750589 123258 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slowly collects all the pieces of adu's mind and glues them back together, because somebody has to < 1452750615 461151 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god i was afraid i'd have to do it < 1452750632 951650 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got you covered... for now. < 1452750806 579182 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1452750834 751096 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1452750968 448634 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: thanks :) < 1452750981 708992 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels better, now < 1452751279 678811 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I've tried to be < 1452751328 703094 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Is that what I came up with? xD < 1452751337 544732 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]! < 1452751344 519680 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1452751350 88148 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1452751353 362345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Who? < 1452751361 252419 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's this hppavilion[2] you speak of? < 1452751362 571708 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anymore < 1452751367 702163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1452751378 132416 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say it's pretty close < 1452751381 447698 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm making a language entirely like all known languages, INCLUDING Intercal < 1452751384 712511 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(INTERCAL) < 1452751398 388849 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that wise? < 1452751398 958750 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Maybe it's like call/em? < 1452751414 78243 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Wisdom is not the #esoteric way! < 1452751419 78291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for `wisdom < 1452751429 807762 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about wise domes? < 1452751449 195777 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Ah, those should really be called "Wise Spheres" < 1452751466 994542 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, half of them are simply underground? < 1452751470 587247 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: They encircle the entirety of the area, really. Not just the top < 1452751472 588696 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've been learning boring Python < 1452751475 124006 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/andydude/tetration/blob/gh-pages/dl/superroot_3.ipynb < 1452751500 57860 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Good for keeping the wisdom sealed in and fresh < 1452751518 427952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Would you like me to offer my trign code? Good for negative hyperoperations < 1452751526 257599 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I thought you said no wisdom, only `wisdom? < 1452751535 17599 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure < 1452751546 795986 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Oh right < 1452751557 696747 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: To be clear, "trigns" are numbers with three signs < 1452751566 364982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Also, I haven't finished it yet xD < 1452751572 404273 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm... < 1452751592 326780 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wouldn't mind knowing how to figure out what "trign code that is good for negative hyperoperations" means... < 1452751611 825387 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It's code that implements the trigsn < 1452751614 60495 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trigns < 1452751614 624463 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperoperation < 1452751619 293389 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the trigns are good for hyperoperations < 1452751630 155847 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Negative ones especially) < 1452751648 328582 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it has two negatives) < 1452751692 868121 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think I made my point last time < 1452751693 437288 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What should the properties of the trigns be? < 1452751703 90864 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I think that the trigns are a good idea < 1452751722 255279 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: They make negative hyperoperations logical and complete < 1452751731 103302 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, they would have to be perpendicular with each other, obviously < 1452751734 458785 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Also, I don't remember your point from last time < 1452751743 818537 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, another axis? < 1452751745 348499 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! < 1452751754 202845 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all at 60 degrees from the others! < 1452751762 227528 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because confusingness! < 1452751783 293915 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(60 degrees /is/ perpendicular in Trign Geometry) < 1452751783 467236 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point was this: there are 3 sequences of binary operations: hyperN, hyperNlog, hyperNroot < 1452751792 682366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works too :,( < 1452751798 387493 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But trigns are more fun < 1452751813 509963 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we can just use a piecewise function that amalgamates those together < 1452751821 660510 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to try and make these 3 sequences into a single sequence indexed by esoteric numbers, is well, too esoteric for my tastes < 1452751845 539584 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Then you are not a TRUE Scotsman < 1452751853 535537 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Scotsman/Esolanger/ < 1452751878 472848 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's not much more eso than Imaginary Numbers, IMHO < 1452751883 601975 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall we consult ##math? < 1452751927 637021 :andrew!~andrew@116.25.144.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452751930 74841 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is with this 'flat earth' stuff being the new thing? < 1452751948 355573 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vodkode: It's not the "new" thing < 1452751952 637652 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452751958 363048 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, new trend < 1452751959 230319 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vodkode: It's been around for a while now < 1452751973 174658 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vodkode: That trend isn't too recent, at least in internet time < 1452752005 67544 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rocketed waaaay up in 2015 from what I can tell, tons upon tons of YT videos and people debating it (as if its a debate) < 1452752014 923332 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew? < 1452752020 571047 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-122-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what the catalyst is for this kind of nonsense < 1452752035 884801 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vodkode: It's probably eggshells < 1452752054 176576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could be some complex metaphor I don't know about < 1452752163 933930 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Out of curiosity, is there some logical way to do log the same way root(x, n) = x**(1/n)? < 1452752217 418481 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps log(x, n) = root(x, f(n))? < 1452752278 950283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is, then my "trign" idea could probably be justified by lining up the trigns' properties with the relationship between them < 1452752338 419831 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Perhaps we should turn attention away from the reals for a bit and look to the positive Gaussians < 1452752345 964306 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, log(x, n) = ln(x) / ln(n) < 1452752408 902702 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: But is there any relationship with root and pow? < 1452752487 102448 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really! you might be thinking: root/pow form a pair the way exp/log do < 1452752510 746531 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but while root is really a special case of pow (where the exponent is a fraction like you mentioned) that isn't true for exp/log. < 1452752521 522467 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there isn't a way to write one in terms of the other < 1452752739 397811 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: What's the difference between exp and pow < 1452752822 623802 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's a matter of perspective < 1452752824 640860 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :root-like functions are inverses of f(x) = x^n for some n < 1452752830 45286 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :log-like functions are inverses of f(x) = n^x for some n < 1452752881 289570 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "to do log the same way"? < 1452752987 70923 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The same way root is exponentiation to the reciprocal < 1452752991 743905 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the index < 1452753291 764514 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452753378 198222 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any other kinds of call/ besides call/cc and call/em? < 1452753425 907163 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: theres the power series < 1452753432 886734 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: wut. < 1452753438 697763 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1452753447 752215 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You weren't referring to that question, where you xD < 1452753478 134020 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log(x) = sum((-1)^(n + 1)*(x - 1)^n/n, n=1..infinity) < 1452753603 583235 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, my favorite, -log(1 - x) = sum(x^n/n, n=1..infinity) < 1452753722 433845 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres also the indefinite integral < 1452753785 457876 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log(x) = ∫dx/x < 1452755046 106730 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there somewhere online I can find a massive database of the curry-howard correspondence? < 1452757032 748949 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452757578 644335 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452757658 631927 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1452757684 632696 :andrew!~andrew@116.25.144.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1452757719 986576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we roll Set Theory into Curry/Howard/Lambek on the grounds that a set can be represented as a bitstring where each bit corresponds to an item's presence in said set relative to the "universe", and since bitstrings support logical connectives naturally? < 1452758030 690569 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452758032 190464 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard < 1452758412 632115 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1452759128 970201 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esa208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452759512 856862 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1452763098 975790 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452763146 506929 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1452763160 104812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1452763162 624443 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452763215 843803 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452763273 708068 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1452763923 290431 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the style change on aaronson's blog was something stupid wordpress did < 1452764274 206932 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452764335 119475 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1452764353 785239 :rifter__!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452764591 6913 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452764597 267228 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1452764630 815872 :rifter__!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452765362 750140 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452766138 711722 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a style? < 1452766182 153645 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1452766186 579497 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm. < 1452766188 794228 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nvm < 1452766353 450996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you back? < 1452766353 732028 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: also sure you won't do concurrent befunge? fizzie has managed to make a stack based imperative one, 1 pushes 1, 2 < 1452766367 862137 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, dunno < 1452767510 979248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Galois Theory: why the shape of the football makes solving polynomials harder < 1452767629 195726 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1452768277 794715 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrbdbkgofmjqxqxi JOIN :#esoteric < 1452768279 400940 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrbdbkgofmjqxqxi NICK :Guest11957 < 1452768315 457488 :Guest11957!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrbdbkgofmjqxqxi QUIT :Changing host < 1452768315 723365 :Guest11957!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1452768323 349121 :Guest11957!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles NICK :ocharles_ < 1452768397 825916 :andrew!~andrew@116.25.144.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452769140 848065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452770995 443431 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452771005 621249 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1452771018 707835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsm/BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1452771075 456609 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452771219 151672 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bdsm < 1452771222 774425 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan elliott Taneb Taneb < 1452771450 883655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote BDSM < 1452771452 67859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1452771488 540706 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : `learn BDSM is just a kind of LARP I knew that. c.c Please do not say that I invented it < 1452771839 413058 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. < 1452771852 188354 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. mwah ah ah. < 1452772040 476421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have tried to send you this email as HTML (pictures and words) but it wasn’t possible. In order for you to see what we had hoped to show you please click here to view online in your browser: --" < 1452772049 755914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's one way to convert your text/html emails to text/plain. < 1452772077 893105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn HTML is just pictures and words. < 1452772081 526420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'html': HTML is just pictures and words. < 1452772164 12700 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esa208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1452772241 814444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1452772261 842396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452772331 593021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? link < 1452772333 865307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452772336 160520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? links < 1452772337 410311 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :links? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452772478 779518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn links are one of the very few HTML renderers that don't try to store a full document tree with heavyweight objects for each node just in case javascript wants to modify it later, so it's the only engine that can render those HTMLs that are automatically converted from a PDF and put each letter to a separate element. < 1452772481 439192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'link': links are one of the very few HTML renderers that don't try to store a full document tree with heavyweight objects for each node just in case javascript wants to modify it later, so it's the only engine that can render those HTMLs that are automatically converted from a PDF and put each letter to a separate element. < 1452772486 532142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! you fool < 1452772500 874424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv -i wisdom/link{,s} < 1452772505 45034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1452772506 64152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? links < 1452772507 176094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :links are one of the very few HTML renderers that don't try to store a full document tree with heavyweight objects for each node just in case javascript wants to modify it later, so it's the only engine that can render those HTMLs that are automatically converted from a PDF and put each letter to a separate element. < 1452773301 443364 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is such a thing as... aaargh. ow. no. a PDF converter that put individual letters into tens of tens of thousands of millions of elements? < 1452773309 534065 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for something that involves PDFs, that's low! < 1452773312 864868 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeew. < 1452773409 601951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, mostly they just put every word into an element, or each part of the word separated by kerns, so basically they put an element anywhere TeX emits a glue to the DVI < 1452773426 748234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting every letter to a separate element is much rarer. < 1452773649 776106 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-208-170.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452773792 595363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have a PDF-to-other-formats converter, it genuinely does use an element per letter when converting to HTML < 1452773801 612614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to get the layout on the page exactly the same < 1452773804 928885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it mostly useless < 1452773917 665371 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-208-170.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1452773962 489210 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BDSM < 1452773963 565786 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1452774019 996829 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COCOCONUT CHICKEN < 1452774159 258222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a sorcery with the exact ability of Safe Passage costing {WW} be overpowered? < 1452774238 919125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the heavyweight elements is the main reason why I hate SVG used as a general vector format, as opposed to PDF. SVG basically _forces_ you to make vector drawings with tons of heavy objects. < 1452774334 445859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's canvas of course, which doesn't do that, but canvas is worse than postscript in that documents using it need a full interpreter of a general purpose language and the document can have lots of unintended side effects besides drawing that you have to be careful about. < 1452774450 153087 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452774500 131171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "need a full interpreter of a general purpose language" part doesn't sound that different from PostScript. < 1452774554 972692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Windows Metafiles to the rescue?) < 1452774631 201980 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esa208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452775029 221614 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452775439 285341 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esa208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1452775730 383652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1452775731 773365 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452775737 124085 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1452776392 972217 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language unlike all other programming languages, eh? < 1452776398 251565 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I tend to go for with my languages. < 1452776414 148014 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proce is the one that comes to mind. < 1452776479 896170 :andrew__!~andrew@116.25.144.78 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452776480 146034 :andrew!~andrew@116.25.144.78 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452776599 514299 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proce as currently defined might be broken, allowing you to take advantage of discretization artifacts. < 1452776861 72267 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452776926 746247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452776967 491622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the sandbox for postscript is better. canvas requires a full browser, with lots of information leaks and stuff. < 1452778146 917700 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it put each letter into a span or what? < 1452778156 76470 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the HTML file will be huge then :) < 1452778174 781616 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ "" < 1452778176 576243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13 < 1452778183 156887 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's at least 14 bytes per letter < 1452778204 973425 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much as terrible as my image to html converter < 1452778224 295012 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/output.html < 1452778227 210625 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it looks good :D < 1452778289 639670 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that one has RLE and color reduction turned on < 1452778296 866074 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not too bad as far as size goes < 1452778348 308084 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, could you get that down using a colour pallete and CSS? < 1452778380 979567 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1452778385 647447 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried that < 1452778390 639858 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be a nice step to take < 1452778419 160681 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good thing is that this way I can send dick pics to people without having them detected < 1452778440 43567 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also google image search will never index my pics < 1452778546 859972 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1452778556 157496 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that online version has no colour reduction apparentely < 1452778567 746965 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1452778572 679142 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look on my disc < 1452778733 674237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: hehe, I've seen images drawn with tables, but only smaller ones, up to 64x64 pixels or something. < 1452778812 839507 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: and the "14 bytes per letter" is missing the point. the bytes aren't the heavy cost, the in-memory heavy objects with tons of properties is. and they're not easy to avoid in current html renderers because javascript can modify anything after which the page has to be re-rendered. < 1452778840 151778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even without javascript, CSS can do some fancy things to change the page when you modify the width of the browser or you scroll or something. < 1452778867 942365 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1748859 / 1024 < 1452778869 830576 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1707.8701171875 < 1452778878 424186 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1748859 / 1024 / 1024 < 1452778880 294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.667841911315918 < 1452778892 853471 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that output.html is 1.6MB apparentely < 1452778910 738162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1748859%2^20 < 1452778911 164293 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 1.66784 < 1452778995 400373 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/output_reduced.html <- this is way smaller < 1452779002 879811 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the decrease in quality is noticable < 1452779022 126531 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't tested it with dick pics yet so ... < 1452779026 103878 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might still serve the purpose < 1452779139 429305 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is

allowed? < 1452779172 487053 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1452779192 863426 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would shave off 60kb < 1452779245 591375 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe background can be replaced with bg < 1452779247 26564 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1452779504 519484 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/mandel.html < 1452779505 355771 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1452779709 266553 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if there are repeated colors and/or widths, you could reduce stuff with classes instead of inline style I think. < 1452780770 40573 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452780936 695453 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using rle for width < 1452780945 104080 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :width:8px and such < 1452780977 757623 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a color is repeated I just increase the width < 1452781036 38463 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you mean like .f { background:#...; width:5px; }? < 1452781084 76686 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452781295 41810 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: possibly, but probably more like sepraate classes for background and width < 1452781387 686714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg and later < 1452781575 572759 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1452781618 599769 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 16*16*16 < 1452781620 486366 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4096 < 1452781628 472356 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 256 * 128 < 1452781630 728335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 32768 < 1452782275 709952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please my dear the entire supreme court Of Ecowas Benin Republic are here to make it clear to you that there was a case that was been handling in this Ecowas since January 5th 2015 concerning your funds because we got some reports that you did not received your funds since after every stories you heard regarding the funds and all type of payments you have be paid to receive the funds but none ... < 1452782281 753641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is received by you." < 1452782284 76783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, that's a long sentence. < 1452782426 860277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, Please my dear the entire supreme court Of Ecowas Benin Republic are here to make it clear to you that there was a case that was been handling your funds. < 1452782427 108032 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i haskell, i have some < 1452782526 869139 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: turn down for what? < 1452782527 66967 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i've already seen multiple in the block i live in connecticut. the hills were young." < 1452782536 422778 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: seen what? < 1452782536 606335 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: so a good alternative name for the procedure < 1452784187 318373 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can we implement a fungot module for that < 1452784187 501225 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ther smerdy startin again? it seems to dtrt. i'm going to < 1452784244 334160 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why are you? < 1452784244 556092 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: if my memory serves me well enough to do it < 1452784252 387871 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it doesn't. < 1452784750 772167 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452784841 740696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, great, OGW prints a Turn to Frog variant for just {U} < 1452785803 619704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what, spam? < 1452786631 510993 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452787002 554086 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, more for creatures with annoying abilities < 1452787019 478146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially static ones. < 1452787767 917687 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xkjfhotqpuqemwew QUIT :Excess Flood < 1452787926 719973 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aybnsnnuqelkavdh JOIN :#esoteric < 1452788456 579431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iwn,dddw! < 1452788473 824641 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1452790113 799109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1452790338 327148 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1452790381 951782 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452790508 96132 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452790817 820674 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-208-170.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452791520 759038 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my lecturers just used the term "quadrupleton set" < 1452791640 872247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Me and lambda have a history" < 1452791670 521136 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambda < 1452791673 401371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452791683 774551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lamda < 1452791685 14758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452791692 7469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambda calculus < 1452791692 849067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452791948 598889 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452792015 504987 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1452792112 466270 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1452792120 155405 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know Effi's did waffle < 1452792120 857945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1452792132 972467 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume that's referring to the pizza takeaway in York? < 1452792229 125919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it does now < 1452792234 405722 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs384830.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452792240 333419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was just looking for a name with "ffi". < 1452792259 433208 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ir ffi < 1452792329 313810 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I thought of Effi Briest for some reason... perhaps I should read the book to see what it's about.) < 1452792369 771959 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suspect that waffles don't feature prominently in that story. < 1452792981 724050 :AlexR42!~textual@145.255.21.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452793856 254866 :AlexR42!~textual@145.255.21.177 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1452794040 12854 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452794229 140785 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ don't forget about the RS-20 < 1452794229 461633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1452794355 849362 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :alan rickman died of cancer < 1452794447 726401 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea who that is < 1452794497 530048 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :snape < 1452794513 773053 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. he was a great actor < 1452794771 979015 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many mange readers are in here < 1452794844 954341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manga even < 1452794897 232287 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read manga. < 1452794941 938955 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have recommendations that aren't kinda obvious? < 1452795052 496080 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what genre < 1452795110 881123 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferibly slice of life/character developing. just read bitter virgin and am reading aku no hana right now < 1452795401 243797 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs384830.centertel.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452795490 709042 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. The ones i've read that aren't all that popular afaik are the manga of ARIA (Kozue Amano). < 1452795640 74480 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Kimi ni todoke < 1452795967 815211 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will have a look < 1452796586 169581 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, it's a bad week to be a 69-year old with cancer < 1452796593 203129 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1452796648 327955 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.132.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452797615 812418 :oren!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1452799374 756591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1452799928 96742 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.132.66 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1452800116 824248 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does negation Curry-Howard correspond to? < 1452800129 223694 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is a type, so what's ~p? < 1452800174 621380 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :p -> Void < 1452800186 237988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: Oh < 1452800196 823688 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(functions from p to a type that contains *no values at all*) < 1452800237 586334 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: My god... < 1452800262 398415 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: And &? Wiki gives me the product type, so tuples < 1452800266 870570 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if p is empty (false), the type is inhabited (by the empty function that maps nothing to nothing), but as soon as p is inhabited (true), we need to map from some p value to something in codomain, but there's no way to pick anything, so p -> Void can't be inhabited. < 1452800278 799863 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I tried that with Modus Ponens < 1452800284 54627 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It made no sense to me < 1452800292 477409 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(P & (P -> Q) -> Q < 1452800295 629308 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'd you try? < 1452800315 713247 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is, in haskell if that's correct, (P, (P -> Q)) -> Q < 1452800321 588525 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the APPLY function? < 1452800328 281275 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (p, p -> q) -> q < 1452800328 562957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (a, b) = b a < 1452800330 515669 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But which accepts a tuple? < 1452800335 599053 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1452800364 501517 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. How does that even work? < 1452800380 103184 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @djinn command? ~magic~ < 1452800386 30383 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but modus ponens is basically application, yeah! < 1452800402 382417 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: No, how does (p, p -> q) -> q become that? < 1452800427 269443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I know that modus ponens if application; wiki said so, so I was using that as practice < 1452800459 864208 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @djinn command takes a type and... by some complicated process, thinks up a value that has that type < 1452800484 915942 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: Ah. But how does f (a, b) = b a even have that... OH! < 1452800510 78758 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "f (p, g) = g p" is clearer? < 1452800560 172859 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: Yes, I figured it out xD < 1452800567 230012 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the "OH!" < 1452800571 6385 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you give @djinn simple curry-howard thingies, it can do "proofs" (because a function inhabiting some type ≈ a proof that some logic predicate holds) < 1452800683 836601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn () -> Void < 1452800684 154314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1452800686 799003 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can handle some pretty cool things < 1452800689 589487 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Either a b, Either a c) -> Either a (b, c) < 1452800689 772387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (a, b) = < 1452800689 955313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1452800689 955397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left c -> Left c < 1452800689 955428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right d -> case b of < 1452800689 955458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left e -> Left e < 1452800691 779790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right f -> Right (d, f) < 1452800711 632386 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: So... what's modus tollens? < 1452800742 151409 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either ((F, (P -> F)) -> F) ((T, (P -> T)) -> T) is what I got from it < 1452800748 433763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (a, (b, c)) -> (c, (b, a)) < 1452800748 616931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (a, (b, c)) = (c, (b, a)) < 1452800754 165903 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the assumption ~Void = Unit < 1452800759 453773 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Void = F, Unit = True < 1452800810 308136 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Is it K? No, that can't be right... < 1452800831 977279 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says modus tollens is just: P -> Q and NOT Q ==> NOT P right? < 1452800844 509220 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: That's what I got < 1452800852 425858 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (p -> q, q -> Void) -> (p -> Void) < 1452800852 746975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (a, b) c = b (a c) < 1452800866 186404 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((p -> q), (q -> Void)) -> (p -> Void) -- parens for clarity < 1452800866 467519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1452800872 283193 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1452800895 57866 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can use currying nicely here! do you know about that? < 1452800941 575905 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you don't *need* it, but that's what lambdabot did there) < 1452800953 402405 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I know what currying is < 1452800970 74178 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1452801053 94464 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, essentially p → q and q → Void are your two steps to a contradiction < 1452801109 577547 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my recommendation: you should play http://incredible.pm/ if you enjoy this and want it gamified. it's lots of fun! < 1452801152 38113 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :solving the problems on there is a lot like writing a function like @djinn does < 1452801182 251592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible proof, mauris < 1452801200 70751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amazing mauris and his educated rodents < 1452801291 168791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main thing I remember from that book is the word "cooperate". < 1452801317 425803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I pronounced as "coop-erate" since I didn't know how it was pronounced. < 1452801365 803382 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronouncing words wrong cause you've only ever read them is great < 1452801379 64334 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was i supposed to guess "colonel"?? < 1452801420 479493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't call torvals "the linux colonel" for nothing < 1452801435 591936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lds < 1452801521 244632 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((p -> q) -> p) -> q < 1452801521 525725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1452801534 431685 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1452801538 592859 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((p -> q) -> p) -> p < 1452801538 878282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1452801545 405928 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1452801556 995783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-add type Cont r a = (a -> r) -> r < 1452801560 215961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((p -> Cont r q) -> Cont r p) -> Cont r p < 1452801560 497017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = a (\ c _ -> b c) b < 1452803451 473822 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452803548 658113 :TodPunk!~Tod@67-2-45-172.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452803918 949958 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrdjnzrjcswzopde QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1452804104 133897 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1452804107 798304 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1452804176 748227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1452804187 247783 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452804256 627218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1452804407 55038 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452804491 950140 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452804507 240845 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1452805085 670157 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452805982 145248 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-208-170.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1452806894 778943 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452806966 450221 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1452807003 878451 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452807289 827700 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452807300 87618 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1452807336 634537 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1452807597 484380 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452807603 315595 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1452808190 132367 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Quit: Who turned this off?! D:< < 1452808500 706185 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1452809511 474292 :Mossa_Mossa!~Mossa_Mos@c83-254-168-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1452809523 198623 :Mossa_Mossa!~Mossa_Mos@c83-254-168-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not the esolang community! < 1452809527 195493 :Mossa_Mossa!~Mossa_Mos@c83-254-168-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fugg Internet is dense. < 1452809528 334539 :Mossa_Mossa!~Mossa_Mos@c83-254-168-181.bredband.comhem.se PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1452809545 279040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1452810191 852674 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they took a wrong turn and ended up here < 1452810513 836102 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/VerbalExpressions/JSVerbalExpressions < 1452810570 200914 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because regex is hard < 1452812110 265900 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-1-122.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452813083 967705 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1452813317 795677 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452813344 951466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1452814091 550507 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1452814175 149319 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boheily < 1452814590 943833 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452814904 955217 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452815147 273667 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1452815162 570780 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Edu1 < 1452815166 269169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edu1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1452815305 980025 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soy de venzuela < 1452815346 232662 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome.es Edu1 < 1452815346 965803 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you also speak english? <.< < 1452815347 145435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome.es: not found < 1452815359 717027 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh. what was the spanish version again? < 1452815365 542130 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido Edu1 < 1452815366 729345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edu1: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1452815384 596461 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/wecome* < 1452815385 377901 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edu1: ¿hablá usted inglés? < 1452815385 557563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wecome < 1452815389 359208 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/welcome* < 1452815390 415986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome wisdom/welcome.bork wisdom/welcome.eo wisdom/welcome.es wisdom/welcome.fi wisdom/welcome.fr wisdom/welcome.nl wisdom/welcome.sv < 1452815395 929387 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1452815418 505720 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hablo ingles < 1452815589 58220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿conoces brainfuck? está el más popular de los lenguajes esotéricos: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1452815928 174683 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola Edu1. < 1452815976 968209 :Edu1!~canaima@190.200.225.84 PART :#esoteric