< 1449792316 304892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ESON14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45831 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2568) 10Created Page (incomplete < 1449792379 340157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ESON14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45832&oldid=45831 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+15) 10Forgot to cover floats < 1449792531 397095 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, /"[^\s]*/ is referring to render as code < 1449792539 505105 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you have any clue why, oerjan? < 1449792544 676847 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*refusing < 1449792587 253696 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tag actually renders (but not the closing tag) and the box (but only that box) renders as unformatted text < 1449792603 861592 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ... < 1449792613 162982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1449792647 489058 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nope < 1449792714 297038 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449792731 41935 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that one, weirdly < 1449792745 187703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be the " for some weird reason < 1449792804 551233 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. Replaced it with " and I get the same error. < 1449792846 146072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ESON14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45833&oldid=45832 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+5) 10/* Commands */ Tried to fix formatting. Gave up. < 1449793406 974352 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh heh < 1449793464 375987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ESON14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45834&oldid=45833 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+2) 10The error was somewhere completely different < 1449793565 143970 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i replaced almost everything by &entities;, it didn't help, and i tried removing to see if the entities where being recognized at all. then i saw the error move to the next row... < 1449793571 381648 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449793579 57476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only then did i think to look at the previous one. < 1449793727 207365 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird how that didn't affect the intermediate cell at all... < 1449793786 180591 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449793837 219957 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in the html it's all escaped, except that the missing is probably autoinserted by the < 1449793887 128270 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my guess is that the wiki somehow handles detection and table formatting independently, causing a crazy confusion when a tag is missing. < 1449793915 476751 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449793930 821315 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But there isn't a tag missing < 1449793939 736878 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there was < 1449793940 903260 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used , but it doesn't render. < 1449793954 822695 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the on the _previous_ row was missing < 1449793959 660088 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! < 1449794079 501234 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which probably caused the wiki to think the next was inside a , so it escaped it. < 1449794106 60925 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow this happened independently of the table formatting < 1449794153 605081 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and html (at least in my browser) is flexible enough to auto-close/ignore the erroneous and tags remaining < 1449794228 612007 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449794252 900951 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? KRF < 1449794260 314232 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449794270 171359 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other words, mediawiki parsing is insane, piecemeal, and ad hoc. < 1449794280 511868 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan! < 1449794287 185664 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily! < 1449794308 975457 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRF is mediawiki's parsing? < 1449794312 908547 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn KRF is the Norwegian Christian Democratic Party. < 1449794317 633580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'krf': KRF is the Norwegian Christian Democratic Party. < 1449794341 5650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: actually it's ... i've forgotten it already but it's hppavilion[1]'s latest idea. < 1449794367 172867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something format < 1449794401 184395 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION preserves the mystery by not checking his backscroll < 1449794404 11409 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and YLE is the Finnish Broadcasting Company. < 1449794415 91234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thing doesn't need to be known to be known hth < 1449794425 304074 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1449794531 479547 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm progressing through the Advent of Code. I used the loeb combinator to solve day 7! < 1449794625 924688 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes that this is something that would cause his webreading catchup to go backwards if he allowed himself to get sucked in. < 1449794690 397563 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think esolangs.org is sliding to the point where i'm giving up on it < 1449794698 972075 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh :( < 1449794710 956638 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(somewhere around September 15 iirc) < 1449794781 395861 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449794810 304532 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do that, i might be able to get r/reddit caught up to the beginning of november soon. < 1449794813 987201 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1449794816 957280 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*r/haskell < 1449794856 591629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knorwegian? < 1449794878 910942 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Kristelig FolkeParti, technically. < 1449794891 342888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you feel about your completionist tendencies < 1449794906 360463 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: despair hth < 1449794919 234005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also since when do you .-terminate your irc sentences < 1449794934 765248 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm afraid i might need glasses at some close point in the future. < 1449794974 865355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with mugs < 1449795002 368317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not very transparent. < 1449795066 914178 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i dunno about the .s but at least i'm not consistent about it. < 1449795156 411579 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449795158 799288 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1449795207 463524 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew < 1449795215 90402 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iksrygavncykekxv JOIN :#esoteric < 1449795235 191911 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1449795489 601856 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1449795491 553213 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloily < 1449795512 982226 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESON is the KRF referred to in the topic < 1449795521 905242 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like JSON or XML, but esoer < 1449796168 249632 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha! < 1449796237 783606 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\コレンバンハ\! < 1449796274 446559 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449796338 268292 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: shouldn't it be konboilywa < 1449796388 435690 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloppro! it depends on the romanization scheme hth < 1449796402 900729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but yours is definitely wrong < 1449796405 751192 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1449796421 180864 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I katakanaed it because reasons. < 1449796436 5480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't the last kana change, then? < 1449796438 785336 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually is こんばんは, with the infamous は. < 1449796442 328804 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't actually know < 1449796462 353344 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to ワ < 1449796468 228584 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. I'm not an expert in historical kana usage, which I guess would dictate which one to use. < 1449796500 604692 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the `bienvenido command *does* say that most people here don't speak Spanish. < 1449796506 896050 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick research indicates that yeah, katakana is always phonetic < 1449796521 416518 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't use ハ for wa ever < 1449796558 794752 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doink, you already got @told that. < 1449796575 769988 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it seems that it was actually the reverse, i.e. the final ha is spelt ha and pronunced wa (then later standardized to phonetic values except for postpositions) < 1449796637 939504 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh. < 1449796652 204913 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ハ/ワ/ < 1449796659 181628 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that the topic marker particle は was always written "wa" rather than "ha", in, like, every romanization scheme. < 1449796686 878367 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not every. Wapuro romaji doesn't. :) < 1449796761 900768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you sometimes get syo/sho, si/shi, ha/wa, wo/o... < 1449796782 600510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another good argument to conflagrate Norwegian and Japanese together. < 1449796807 665365 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like wapuro romaji < 1449796830 852092 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's WYSIWYG? < 1449796834 700978 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wapuro is particularly helpful in that it actually can encode some kana use that other schemes don't. < 1449796850 412088 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's not WYS (what you speak)) < 1449796852 590459 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yah. < 1449796896 468943 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, like you can distinguish onee from onei < 1449796934 960100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1449796949 845880 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oo (big) from ou (king) < 1449796972 406867 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can actually write "ti" (as opposed to "chi") < 1449796995 782751 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that be texi or teli? < 1449796999 407056 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be texi < 1449797048 252762 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah, yeah. < 1449797065 857763 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ti" is more informal Hepburn-esque romanization. < 1449797071 3167 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like dexizuni- (disney) < 1449797133 309333 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dexizuni-. < 1449797142 889012 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1449797162 371021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( are there any conlangs/transcriptions that explicitely encode weird keystrokes like that? ) < 1449797188 816842 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "t`exis`uni-" if you use pikhq romaji. < 1449797260 353613 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1449797265 723858 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahah < 1449797281 35413 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1449797294 488816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :` representing dakuten? what do you do for the ° in 'p*'? < 1449797295 480619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1449797296 390771 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke oren. brorenke. < 1449797299 340183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1449797301 172380 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ^ < 1449797320 891181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, literally. I thought it was a pointer to a previous message first < 1449797323 753097 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1449797328 509893 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449797328 610752 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm better now < 1449797340 104053 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Basically all I wanted was a trivial mapping from kana to ASCII, for... Honestly, shits and giggles. < 1449797352 10588 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :As good a reason as any < 1449797414 455 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only advantage is it can represent really unusual kana use, as in Ainu. < 1449797443 558713 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what language family that was in, but it was something entirely non-japanese, wasn't it? < 1449797446 547956 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"axinu itaxku", for instance. < 1449797453 922135 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yep. Language isolate. < 1449797463 173564 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1449797474 356754 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of language isolates around there, huh < 1449797502 329340 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite plausibly the isolates are "just" so distantly related it's hard to demonstrate a connection. < 1449797507 364780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps some day in the Far Future we'll be set about all these languages... < 1449797519 125363 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... But, then, if they're related they're so distantly related we can't tell. :) < 1449797626 141887 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449797677 556353 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start figuring out how to generate hangul. I think I'll be generating them in BDF format < 1449797930 469835 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.86.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449798491 426095 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp. I relapsed into drug abuse. < 1449798496 226419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely minecraft.) < 1449798693 553262 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, phew. You had me worried for a second xD < 1449798833 503062 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My grapher looks REALLY cool when you enter "x sin abs; x cos abs; 0 x sin abs -; 0 x cos abs -;" < 1449798860 319020 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one thing I'm physically addicted to: coffee. < 1449798860 431853 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's RPN if you spend too long trying to figure out what monstrosity I created where you can treat - as a number) < 1449798870 759026 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Everyone is addicted to coffee < 1449798874 247779 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except me < 1449798877 441470 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And most mormons. < 1449798943 471600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you mostly mormon? < 1449798947 198110 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jsut entered "x tan abs" and now tangent makes sense to me. < 1449798949 206781 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No. < 1449798977 486334 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statistically, yes, given that alaska seems to have a higher-than-average concentration of mormons, but I'm not a mormon personally. < 1449799059 17617 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x sin x 5 / sin x 5 * sin + < 1449799059 270159 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is cool < 1449799088 682799 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, x sin x 5 / sin x 5 * sin + + < 1449799114 840533 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll implement my grapher into W'' < 1449799152 806869 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like "\x GRPHVAR := GRAPH" should do < 1449799241 669925 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that isn't quite right. Probably... < 1449799284 414114 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[| |] GRAPH perhaps? The x is pushed onto the stack before evaluating the block the result is popped off? < 1449799289 891627 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds good. I'll do that. < 1449799435 200516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x sin x 5 / sin x 5 * sin x 10 / sin x 10 * sin + + + + abs < 1449799454 71788 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make any trigonometric equation look cooler by adding "abs" to the end, unless it's always > 0 < 1449799533 98940 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Postfix? < 1449799546 305855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes. < 1449799548 640909 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right < 1449799556 776432 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot that I'm exclusively using RPN right now xD < 1449799583 452442 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really used a postfix calculator or language a lot, so I guess it's just not part of my mental model < 1449799594 118904 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegant as it is < 1449799651 637535 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'm making a whole language intended for use in Postfix < 1449799722 425953 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a concatenative language then < 1449799837 187295 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I suppose < 1449799867 79664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of that blog post, "why concatenative languages matter". it's a good read < 1449799879 320889 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost 100% postfix instructions; the only parsing done after lexing (other than comments) is blocking code < 1449799895 705187 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes, haskell feels very concatenative. especially when using arrows. < 1449799900 718509 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, turing [| |] into a block < 1449799904 568137 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turning < 1449799932 307857 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried making it in C++ < 1449799939 691430 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got hung up implementing a linked list xD < 1449799945 66541 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moved to python for now < 1449799946 479325 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ... why < 1449799950 115226 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::list < 1449799959 339633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Tried that. < 1449799983 515384 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to be able to easily access elements like I can in python, else I can't wrap my head around it xD < 1449799989 692404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK for a bit < 1449800022 133644 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you *actually* want out of your data structure? std::list doesn't support random access out-of-the-box because it's an O(n) operation < 1449800066 185646 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::next can do it with a bit more work < 1449800095 461659 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STRUCK CHICKEN < 1449800212 548198 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1449800548 365591 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@67-2-11-107.slkc.qwest.net NICK :Todpunk < 1449800566 901123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :copprello < 1449800613 48324 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the most concatenative of functional concatenatives? < 1449800820 454728 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinnichiwa < 1449801570 955680 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :qpdbqpdbqpdbqpdb < 1449801636 324481 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-200-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449802817 559936 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449802971 598942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6TQ44rigEc < 1449805246 214665 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449805949 685974 :nchambers!nchambers@2604:180:2:6f9::257d QUIT :Quit: compilerdev.net - Compilers made easy < 1449806492 180998 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chørp* < 1449806602 30137 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1449806604 80132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spjætt! < 1449806635 579118 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '*tsjørp*' >canary < 1449806639 685028 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1449807364 222917 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1449809446 177354 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-200-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449810991 454952 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449811119 626904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i thought last girl genius comic it looked a bit like her < 1449811268 402061 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449811657 883133 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm after this i wonder if my wild theory that higgs could be a jäger might be correct... < 1449811706 87803 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a what? < 1449811715 328865 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a jägermonster hth < 1449811729 684466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one that doesn't look like a monster < 1449811800 667246 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if jenka can look that human then someone else might look even more so. < 1449811874 387588 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if "many faces" means she's actually a shapeshifter < 1449811901 470448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, then she wouldn't have needed to hide her face before. < 1449812567 260605 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and here i had thought it was because it was particularly hideous...) < 1449812733 339785 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:306c:ea03:f638:6668 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449812750 557807 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:306c:ea03:f638:6668 QUIT :Changing host < 1449812750 611637 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449812760 868350 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1449812809 930743 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :woudl it be better to draw hangul in one stroke width only, or vary the stroke width depending on the complexity of the character? < 1449812984 412885 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for kanji, I did the latter : 人 has thicker strokes than 談 < 1449813016 113110 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter I think < 1449813150 183401 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I think hangul syllable is denser in y axis than in x axis, so I would prefer the former in terms of consistency < 1449813191 538959 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the dense ones first < 1449813198 363887 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then see how the sparse ones look < 1449813213 90484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe higgs is the spymaster. < 1449814064 24213 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Where are your backslashes? < 1449814230 712816 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca NICK :\oren\ < 1449814233 363656 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1449814302 584444 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now working on a program in C to generate hangul as a BDF fragment. Then, I'll manually put the fragment into the BDF for my font < 1449815271 452150 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449815529 389599 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449815959 902510 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAARGH < 1449816059 28385 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you accidentally an rm < 1449816134 527206 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but my hangul are, uh, not working < 1449816179 689119 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be messing up my BDF somehow < 1449816180 731723 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x tan abs; 0 x cot abs - < 1449816180 917972 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is cool < 1449816190 337381 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, forgot to stripi a newline < 1449817899 41226 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1449818718 581079 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1449819162 532115 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1449819214 515950 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1449820712 80478 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iksrygavncykekxv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1449821448 611406 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449821870 429460 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449822148 405694 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449824117 319804 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1449824851 331093 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.86.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449825072 470828 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.86.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449825995 466651 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-199-116.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1449826432 445511 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-199-116.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449826522 472688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you're working on hangul too? great! < 1449826962 193405 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1449827686 161246 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449827722 162247 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449827723 490961 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1449828528 229219 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Claire's hair strange, or is it just drawn strange, in today's http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3110 < 1449829398 339323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just a new hairstyle. It was a bit like that two days ago too. Though the first panel looks weirder. < 1449829823 477346 :jaboja!~jaboja@176.221.125.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449830971 301300 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get how "bubble pumps" work < 1449831000 898528 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is cold water heavier than warm water? < 1449831150 882647 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably less dense at least < 1449831192 909618 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you heat up the water which creates vapor in it < 1449831197 4769 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that decreases the density < 1449831218 428737 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the pressure from the cold water is thus more forcing the hot water/water vapor mix up the tube? < 1449833730 939837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The density isn't monotonic with temperature, even when you're in liquid phase. < 1449833753 612899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall the densest point is something like 4 degrees. < 1449833767 242859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://linkingweatherandclimate.com/ocean/waterdensity.php random graph < 1449833783 31776 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449833806 739700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Above that point you'll have cold water denser than warm water. < 1449833862 989557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know anything about bubble pumps, this was just a comment on the density.) < 1449834023 102238 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you are my density ) < 1449834043 896554 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1449834056 920630 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically under swiss laws my blog post about GOT would be illegal :( < 1449834062 337805 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1449834085 16851 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :publicicly disclosing security vulnerabilites would be illegal as well. < 1449834117 792803 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is shitty < 1449834230 324414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile in the UK, we've (I'm not sure I can already call it "we", I don't feel very UK-ian) got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_Communications_Data_Bill coming. < 1449834306 224229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_Investigatory_Powers_Bill rather. < 1449834341 814281 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, what's GOT? < 1449834351 280016 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :game of thrones? < 1449834365 351600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Global Offset Table. < 1449834369 857179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm presuming. < 1449834371 846736 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, darn it. < 1449834380 808396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw chatter on it on-channel. < 1449834380 966604 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I thought this was some offtopic channel < 1449834390 162885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not far wrong there. < 1449835548 337965 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bellonder|. have I asked you your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1449836407 418519 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449836953 605305 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EKRANOPLAN CHICKEN < 1449837369 420207 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449837663 465456 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.86.43 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1449838078 466533 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449838472 138346 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: from reading the Wikipedia article about bubble pumps, I don't see anything about heating. < 1449838579 114718 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what are bellonder|'s approximate geographical coordinates and body ewight < 1449838579 410340 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what the hell was that? my, that is a smart mouth you have. it plays a role in the outcome of the kids' game session. < 1449838597 34566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: with peanut butter? < 1449838597 345156 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you have a great appreciation for the fine arts. you use the hammer and nails. they will come a day < 1449838701 266044 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ah, I just watched this one about how a coffee maker works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4Q_YBRJEI < 1449838821 523802 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in that video, the pressure from the cold water reservoir is irrelevant because the valve is closed when water is spewing out of the pump... at least, some of the time. < 1449838870 992079 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best guess is that what's happening is that the heating element boils some of the water at the bottom, which causes it to expand greatly, and this expansion pushes water out of the top of the pump. < 1449838966 161708 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449841144 427464 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449841154 427600 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449841705 911160 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fiukloavikvhgpni QUIT :Changing host < 1449841705 965060 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449841706 300117 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1449841706 353988 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fiukloavikvhgpni JOIN :#esoteric < 1449841813 92245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Soothing Balm a white instant that gains life with art depicting two humans, rather than a red creature with an ability to bite? < 1449842338 23288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get it < 1449842350 427102 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449842548 462691 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449842652 225776 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_percolator#/media/File:Coffee_Percolator_Cutaway_Diagram.svg < 1449842655 257787 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- there's also this < 1449842664 92658 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't seem to have a valve that blocks in one direction? < 1449842925 131541 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449843468 426156 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449843500 466066 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449844010 422725 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449845083 465780 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449845319 138258 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD JOB! ★ < 1449845353 398741 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emily is a great computer scientist < 1449845370 448513 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449845400 776109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? balm < 1449845410 102906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :balm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449845417 191649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sable < 1449845418 493463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sable? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449845439 97620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emily < 1449845441 259514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emily? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449845500 782035 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I am referring to todays QC < 1449845546 372785 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1449845639 641210 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Emily and Tai are done great, it's Claire's hair that seems unusual to me. Is it messed up, or drawn bad, or what? < 1449845728 466396 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the artist changed his method of drawing hair to a more mangaesque style. Look at Penelope's hair in recent comics < 1449845890 700034 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, wavy hair is not common in manga, given that pretty much all japanese people have straight black hair. so it makes sense that wavy hiar draw in such a style would look weird < 1449845939 779989 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's possible. thanks for the explanation. < 1449845979 244028 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could also explain why Tai's hair looks strange in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3108 < 1449846002 214034 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the change started at about 3104 < 1449846051 949084 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, now I look at it, Hannelore's hair looks unusual as well in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3106 , only I didn't notice it because Hannelore is very easy to recognize even without her hair shape < 1449846098 288037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow many of the characters of QC don't look distinct enough to me. < 1449846110 11948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it's just that there are too many of them. < 1449846128 716760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distinct in appearance that is. < 1449846136 20164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do have consistent and distinct personalities. < 1449846174 41923 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe there's also that they've changed in style a lot since the comic started, because Jeph learnt to draw well. < 1449846240 870860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/comic/millie/comic?n=20080616 is a great illustration about that, although Dana's style didn't change as much as Jeph's < 1449846474 408355 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449846814 808672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DUCK14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45835&oldid=45828 5* 03Hurricane996 5* (+5) 10 < 1449847665 493434 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449848209 101545 :jaboja!~jaboja@176.221.125.46 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1449848969 304810 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-199-116.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1449850069 429418 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449850096 425945 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-199-116.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449850334 402799 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1449850358 689331 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode � < 1449850360 995326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER \ UTF-8: ef bf bd UTF-16BE: fffd Decimal: � \ � \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1449851270 164210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45836&oldid=45653 5* 03205.236.81.253 5* (-20) 10/* Extensions */ < 1449851705 725316 :^v^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449852828 738827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Spoon14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45837&oldid=31336 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+60) 10/* External resources */ www.bluedust.dontexist.com dontexist < 1449853270 939165 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.198 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1449854434 363199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1449854653 11227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Retina14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45838&oldid=44563 5* 03Mbomb007 5* (+54) 10online interpreter < 1449854809 669204 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqdgsshjjdnshaio JOIN :#esoteric < 1449856245 455227 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449856405 437035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh a new online interpreter for retina < 1449856982 931653 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1449856986 767185 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :retina, was that the .NET regex thing? < 1449857024 8404 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I apparently somehow glossed over the HackEgo link < 1449857261 426349 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1449857321 431418 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449857446 508670 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449857597 331633 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1449858872 614218 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1449859416 558200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449860696 519703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1449861196 448302 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449861199 569753 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449861398 158676 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1449861470 104273 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye! < 1449861646 498603 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1449862264 600641 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449862362 418293 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449862861 244445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1449864863 101430 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1449864891 467954 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1449864971 810314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, zzo38 < 1449865535 368291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :W'' is going nicely < 1449865552 638811 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: You didn't eshello. < 1449866245 452148 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449866313 243993 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqdgsshjjdnshaio QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1449866624 242336 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo! < 1449866627 978027 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@74.210.154.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449866632 859500 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got Map ("|->") working in W''! < 1449866920 453471 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@74.210.154.193 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1449866945 510786 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@154-193.sh.cgocable.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1449866956 830693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making many more Magic: the Gathering cards in the computer; I have written them on the paper and now I will put them into the computer. That is generally how I do, when I am not near the computer. < 1449867038 149449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: great < 1449867160 548493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by the way, have you looked at ais523's thesis? http://etheses.bham.ac.uk/6120/1/Smith15PhD.pdf < 1449867190 301839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses! < 1449867200 506081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that work for nothing. < 1449867206 97904 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@154-193.sh.cgocable.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1449867209 286194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should apologize to ais523. < 1449867212 754982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1449867232 499168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I will look < 1449867245 746636 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[| 3 * |] 1 [] :: 2 \ :: 3 \ :: |-> gets [3, 6, 9] < 1449867326 940601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: he's explained that it looks so bad mostly because of some stupid formatting requirements by the university. so I asked whether he will later make a version that looks better but doesn't try to conform those requirements. < 1449867349 354490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, have you looked at oren's and lifthr*'s font? < 1449867351 325733 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It creates a block (anonymous function) that pushes 3 and multiplies the top 2 items on the stack when called, then pushes 1, pushes an empty list, concatenates, repeats < 1449867374 274909 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1449867387 672589 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I add some syntactic sugar so lists can be written more easily? [ 1, 2, 3 ] equivalent to 1 [] :: 2 \ :: 3 \ :: ? < 1449867437 748944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd a be a bit of a pain, but it might be worth it < 1449867459 971372 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you're wondering why :: is cons instead of :, it's because : is laconic DUP) < 1449867503 17169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why would I wonder? standard ML has : and :: backwards compared to Haskell < 1449867523 322905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. in haskell : is cons and :: is type restriction, whereas in standard ML, :: is cons and : is type restriction < 1449867532 879891 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1449867543 144781 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well in W'' :: is cons < 1449867549 127918 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and : is DUP < 1449867563 818815 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it isn't even backwards, it's entirely unrelated < 1449867584 136656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the lowercase Greek alphabets slanted to left? < 1449867607 883109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: slanted to the left? what? < 1449867618 514772 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: So should I add [ ... ] syntactic sugar? < 1449867642 220807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thoguht they were ordinary italic greek letters, only taken from computer modern which slightly clashes with the latin letters in the formulas which are from Times < 1449867654 515367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I've no idea, because I don't know what your language is like < 1449867664 395014 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now that I think about it, it'd be kind of difficult to implement with nesting lists) < 1449867679 619074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Fair point. I'll publish some docs soon. < 1449867692 834906 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my language has too many builtins so far < 1449867694 792862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they might look like slanted to the left compared to the italic latin letters < 1449867714 827491 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go through the docs and decide which ones I can make lightweight < 1449867725 395678 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, more of a reference than docs) < 1449867746 288685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I was more bothered that they're wider, and have bigger serifs, that's how cm always looks next to times to me < 1449867768 489811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they are slanted to the left compared with straight letters and punctuation < 1449867788 304519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, are you talking about the lower case or the upper case greek letters? < 1449867793 849429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lowercase < 1449867803 988818 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which page and which letter in particular? < 1449867809 757175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them < 1449867809 912595 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't see them that way < 1449867839 172086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you need to use Computer Modern fonts together with Times you could program a new Computer Modern font with parameters design to be compatible with it < 1449867878 925008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but the difficulty with that is that it's processed with the ordinary TeX engine so you need a TeX font metric for it < 1449867888 556985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would look nice, but I admit it's not trivial to do < 1449867920 66661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theta and gamma in the formulas definitely look to me like they're slanted to the right < 1449867928 864489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like italic letters in formulas should < 1449867942 992483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just slanted a bit less than the italic latin letters < 1449867951 292665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer all of the lowercase Greek letters in that document (and only the lowercase Greek letters) are slanted to the left. < 1449867970 352593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's strange. are you looking at the pdf version? < 1449867973 919020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1449867981 357530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the version you linked, isn't it? < 1449867994 708649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I linked a html page from which you can download that < 1449868002 777693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am using Firefox to view it and not Adobe < 1449868028 689516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you linked http://etheses.bham.ac.uk/6120/1/Smith15PhD.pdf it is the PDF < 1449868029 260609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it with okular, which uses a modified xpdf engine < 1449868032 850481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1449868033 624946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1449868053 714962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try to look at it with adobe or firefox or chrome yet < 1449868108 845974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't even have Adobe on this computer; the only other program I have to view PDF is Ghostscript and I have not tried that one yet) < 1449868119 48066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this sounds strange. You'll have ot bring it up with ais523 I think. < 1449868127 288211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1449868158 220642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I can render to images to show what I'm seeing, but that won't help you debug this. < 1449868163 523815 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just entered x sin x cos / into my grapher < 1449868165 746471 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dear god < 1449868169 632027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recognize that form < 1449868198 700465 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's exactly identical to x tan < 1449868207 377795 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trigonometry is fun < 1449868259 317955 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1449868260 721757 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x tan x cos / < 1449868260 950041 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is fun < 1449868270 77049 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is all RPN, if you haven't noticed xD) < 1449868302 830540 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x tan x sec / = x sin < 1449868320 925199 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, in rpn that should be x tan x sec / x sin = < 1449868375 200359 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x tan x cot / < 1449868375 538003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is just a bunch of parabolae or something < 1449868488 807125 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x x * 150 / x sin + < 1449868492 408296 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wavy Parabola < 1449868514 173595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may also write a SQL program to convert my cards.txt file into a SQL database (but keeping the text version too and using the text version as the main version to edit); and then even such thing can be done with the SQL version including user comments, random selected, etc < 1449868514 626293 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x x * 150 / x sin + x 10 * sin + extra wavy parabola < 1449868586 167350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: does it do parameteric plots? plot an archimedean spiral, then animated Lissajous curves with the angle offset varying by time! < 1449868591 444533 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@154-193.sh.cgocable.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1449868607 881919 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Haven't implemented parametric things yet, not sure if I can < 1449868611 609920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 1 x / sin, the topologist's sine. < 1449868614 719065 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try though < 1449868638 431435 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x x sin + < 1449868638 751308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the wavy line. < 1449868661 713119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do it! Lissajous curves are funny, eg. http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=621188 < 1449868666 750573 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other functions should I mess with? Anything fun outside Trig? < 1449868667 182970 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@154-193.sh.cgocable.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1449868676 144975 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should implement the Hyperbolic Trigonometric Functions? < 1449868743 529713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: implement everything. it shouldn't be hard, if you're not writing the implementation, just using existing functions from a C or C++ library that work on machine doubles, right? < 1449868780 653291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 5 %; x 10 %; x 15 %; x 20 %; x 25 %; x 30 %; x 35 %; x 40 %; x 45 %; x 50 % < 1449868804 897637 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Python's math library < 1449868835 848133 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1449868928 233514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, { + - * / < == <= != min max floor ceil rint trunc sqrt sin cos atan exp log frexp ldexp } are IMO the most important, but it doesn't cost much to add other numeric functions, right? < 1449868946 735071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a sqrt builtin, right? < 1449868972 360986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conditionals < 1449868984 567677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a useful language should have those < 1449868992 321522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of variables also help < 1449868992 476550 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1449869018 145588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since I don't know your current state of your language, or your goals, it's hard to say anything. < 1449869132 508395 :v^!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449869196 131707 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1449869275 568792 :^v^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449869565 487022 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, the grapher is a different program (for now) that also happens to be stack based < 1449869572 377278 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have most of those < 1449869602 115167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :min, max, floor, and ceil are the only ones I don't have, plus the relationals because it's for graphing and relationals usually are boolean < 1449869856 993586 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the vertical log? Like how Parabolas are the vertical sqrt? < 1449869889 136954 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :exp. < 1449869965 617457 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Ah < 1449870033 181590 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x => log (exp x) = x < 1449870033 374395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .hs: 1: 4:Parse error: => < 1449870041 303201 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> log (exp x) = x < 1449870041 513010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .hs: 1: 19:Parse error: = < 1449870046 312009 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> log (exp x) == x < 1449870048 322227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 5 tests and 1074 shrinks): < 1449870048 492323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.9605634343007796 < 1449870066 312716 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floats. <ω< < 1449870157 469937 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1449870183 189331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty bad. Which is why I prefer to store all data in reducible algebraic objects. < 1449870199 56831 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> (log (exp x) - x) / x > 0.00001 < 1449870200 996938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test): < 1449870201 163483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1449870204 891544 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log(exp(x))==x because log(exp(x)) reduces to x < 1449870250 447216 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(Nonzero x) -> (log (exp x) - x) / x > 0.00001 < 1449870252 418444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘Nonzero’ < 1449870252 472222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘NonZero’ (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Tru... < 1449870270 721275 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t NonZero < 1449870272 225064 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> NonZero a < 1449870280 299180 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(NonZero x) -> (log (exp x) - x) / x > 0.00001 < 1449870282 203379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 1084 shrinks): < 1449870282 371781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonZero {getNonZero = -0.8879352820856286} < 1449870328 430878 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man I am just derping around here. < 1449870352 764710 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(NonZero x) -> abs ((log (exp x) - x) / x) < 0.00001 < 1449870354 702678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 41 tests and 11 shrinks): < 1449870354 871962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonZero {getNonZero = -7963.282355550385} < 1449870386 542189 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(NonZero x) -> abs ((log (exp x) - x) / x) < 0.0001 < 1449870388 250487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 28 tests and 8 shrinks): < 1449870388 380747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonZero {getNonZero = -907.4096946139496} < 1449871034 205147 :glitchomatic!~glitchoma@154-193.sh.cgocable.ca QUIT : < 1449871146 789777 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449871578 675585 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9.9 < 1449871594 986743 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9 < 1449871596 376167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monacle < 1449871806 228946 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1449871821 449581 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1449872066 81111 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1449872507 333239 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1449873666 788643 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1449873923 396132 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1449874014 911544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1449874028 162454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8/Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1449874036 166055 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`footnote < 1449874037 513212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: footnote: not found < 1449874044 293310 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 1 < 1449874045 850556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449874052 839613 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1449874054 334842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1449874058 20226 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 7 < 1449874059 499621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 7? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449874065 488699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting... < 1449874067 647482 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`footnote < 1449874068 905445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: footnote: not found < 1449874074 322938 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote < 1449874075 951768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449874082 660481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/footnote//cat "wisdom/footnote $1" < 1449874082 914259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 2 < 1449874092 159821 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/footnote < 1449874092 279982 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. Spoiler: it's the only remaining footnote, last of its line hth < 1449874094 357675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449874095 636677 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: THankn you < 1449874113 205145 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`footnote 1000 < 1449874114 545339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/footnote 1000: No such file or directory < 1449874117 956111 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. thachaf. < 1449874125 3141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time HackEgo writes that message it messes up my terminal. < 1449874138 397260 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Weird < 1449874145 260925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's kind of annoying to write commands that you know are going to fail in a public channel. < 1449874154 173920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least a bunch of them in a row. < 1449874171 411055 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Excellent >:) < 1449874227 617687 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: THe second `footnote was because I forgot I'd sent hte first `footnote, and I was checking if there were any other ones hidden < 1449874260 924765 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn headnote 1/Headnotes are boring. Let's go fly kites! < 1449874266 385493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «headnote 1» < 1449874281 892608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I should've made that #8, or possibly -8) < 1449874283 663725 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1449874285 76117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1449874293 972158 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1449874295 174872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1449874301 117651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1449874309 362479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1449874316 30027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I create "morallyambiguous"? < 1449874342 596622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1449874348 480699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1449874360 76941 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PULL THE TROLLEY LEVER" < 1449874368 861944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STEAL BREAD TO FEED YOUR STARVING FAMILY" < 1449874425 855888 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GLARE AT A PANDA" < 1449874433 433573 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TURN AN UNWILLING MAN INTO A WEAPONIZED CYBORG IN ORDER TO WIN A CIVIL WAR THAT HAS BEEN RAGING FOR YEARS" < 1449874441 617075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B| < 1449874459 937899 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#reference) < 1449874465 532571 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1449874470 931749 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitter-oriented programming language < 1449874494 661212 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashtags, @ replies, etc. < 1449874688 991722 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a Cyborg Neural Net < 1449874721 172870 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A neural net with special CS related nodes (e.g. a queue node instead of any normal node) < 1449874894 72167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like stacky langs because you can just join two programs with a space and essentially combine them into a new program bourne of both < 1449874898 996660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1449874910 776128 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps stack-based languages would be good for Evolutionary Programming because of that < 1449874998 671585 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1449875002 287101 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION probably just discovered something that's been studied for the last 15 billion years (note the age of the universe in comparison) < 1449875101 249043 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Push Down Automatons? < 1449875117 259670 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Universe is big. there are multiple things in it. < 1449875157 212542 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is this trying to be an essentially stack-based language that tries to hide that by some syntactic sugar, like Slang? < 1449875175 782882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Slang => http://www.jedsoft.org/slang/ < 1449875199 16790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by stack-based, I mean something between postscript and forth < 1449875225 424726 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It is not; the [ ... ] syntactic sugar is because making a list via consing and swapping is incredibly hard to read. < 1449875274 256131 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, it is stack (or more accurately, deque)-based. Very much so. < 1449875416 364065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in that case, why don't you just add a ] operator like in postscript, which isn't syntactic sugar? < 1449875444 638361 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What does it do? < 1449875463 537437 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, ] is taken for the basic rot) < 1449875499 60492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :postscript has a stack with synamically typed entries, the [ operator pushes a special value called a mark, and the ] operator finds the topmost mark value on the stack and makes an array from everything up to that, popping those values and the mark < 1449875533 77460 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current way you make a list (consitently) is "[] \ :: \ :: \ :: ... \ ::", which builds a list in the order of the items < 1449875535 843043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :midn you, postscript also has curly braces which are special syntax (not ordinary operators you could define) and make a literal array, sort of like quote in scheme/lisp < 1449875547 188357 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1449875573 404417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well sure, you want multiple array functions, ] isn't the only function that builds an array < 1449875586 304207 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forty < 1449875589 336571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1449875596 510486 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to think about what symbol to use though < 1449875615 628991 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :postscript also has mutable arrays with fixed size, like scheme, so you can make an array of a particular size and later modify entries by index < 1449875617 924889 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brackets [, ], [|, and |] are all taken, and I want something typable < 1449875629 578648 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[ ]> perhaps? < 1449875643 79382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mark and array ? < 1449875647 720971 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I believe that is wrong; wouldn't that be fortily? < 1449875651 474708 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have to be puncutation? < 1449875688 203297 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Pretty much. [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_] names just get pushed and you have to call them with ` < 1449875697 662766 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[ ]> sounds nice < 1449875701 976693 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, looks < 1449875743 310824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :postscript has some strange brackets too. ( ) makes string literals, [ and ] are operators, but there's also iirc < > << >> [[ ]] and more < 1449875769 926907 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1449875780 233607 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< >> < > are shifts and comparisons, respectively in my langauge < 1449875783 119389 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language < 1449875845 242129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: PDF definitely has <<>>. weird things happen in PDFs. < 1449875851 809075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :< > makes string from hex encoding, <~ ~> makes string from base85 encoding (postscript files often encode font data and other data this way, although late enough versions of postscript can technically also have binary stuff in it) < 1449875877 56350 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how dare you doubt the correctness of the wisdom, eh? < 1449875880 657076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ } makes quoted arrays < 1449875898 797211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< >> construct dictionaries from the stack the same way as [ and ] construct arrays < 1449875929 311003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's not actually that many strange brackets < 1449875932 632382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some languages have more < 1449875950 701053 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Mine uses [| and |] to delimit code blocks. < 1449875977 772841 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, nobody seems to use 【】. < 1449876019 377895 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willomy < 1449876021 96612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :willomy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876024 282375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sqornshellous < 1449876025 569984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqornshellous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876027 176147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maximegalno < 1449876028 702099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximegalno? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876028 810952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[| : `even \ 3 % 0 = | |] |-? filters out numbers divisible by either 2 or 3 < 1449876031 942928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maximegalon < 1449876033 398341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximegalon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876055 424970 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brontosaurus < 1449876056 947741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brontosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876066 532651 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pendelhaven < 1449876068 61153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pendelhaven? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876068 949711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth has [ and ] as normal (well, mostly normal) words too, though they don't do anything to the stack -- [ enters interpretation state, and ] enters compilation state, so that you can stick in literals in your compiled word -- like the definitions : foo 2 2 + ; and : foo' [ 2 2 + ] literal ; quite similar, but for the latter there'll be a literal 4 in the definition of foo'. < 1449876086 712355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqornshellous? a nut with a tough shell that can't be cracked by squirrels? < 1449876097 506200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn Brontosaurus/A brontosaurus is an ancient mythological creature. They were well known for having mapoles for teeth. < 1449876101 441855 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «brontosaurus» < 1449876117 424968 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spelled that wrong, didn't I? < 1449876119 200853 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1449876119 468148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no. it's a planet mentioned in HHGG or something like that < 1449876138 556625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nacatl < 1449876139 889369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nacatl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876141 918237 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk. < 1449876149 964699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zero < 1449876151 541500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876154 196906 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? magnet < 1449876155 599061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magnet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876158 217403 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? armpit < 1449876159 193867 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i < 1449876159 798470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :armpit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876160 758035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love monoids < 1449876162 926674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? x-man < 1449876165 516024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-man? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876166 642179 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superhero < 1449876168 290162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superhero? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876171 912903 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imaginary unit < 1449876173 402304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imaginary unit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876178 336481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? j < 1449876179 728096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876185 906732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? big six < 1449876187 403778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big six? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876188 590599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? big five < 1449876189 729867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big five? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876195 168869 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn imaginary unit/The imaginary unit is what you get when you take the square root of love < 1449876199 61334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «imaginary unit» < 1449876218 469142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1449876219 977319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876226 165834 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1449876227 749789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876239 544246 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876241 148012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1449876243 603785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, grep says the mattresses come from Squornshellous Zeta < 1449876272 479924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forth : foo 2 2 + ; : foo' [ 2 2 + ]L ; foo . foo' . see foo see foo' < 1449876273 651690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 4 \ : foo \ 2 2 + ; \ : foo' \ 4 ; < 1449876276 983768 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a game where you are a God < 1449876288 28076 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is controlling the universe via command line. < 1449876290 392178 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess Squ. is actually a star. < 1449876347 623918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45839&oldid=45815 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+2) 10/* Compiler */ < 1449876351 813154 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you weren't thinking very clearly when you created the universe and you drained most of your power doing so. Now, you're stuck with some CMD bullshit, and not even a Unix CMD. < 1449876375 988225 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, I just sounded stupid, didn't I?) < 1449876425 819129 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CMD makes me think of cmd.exe which is terrible < 1449876430 100233 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\> BEEP < 1449876442 976429 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yep < 1449876471 688454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly Windows 10's cmd is decent, haven't switched to 10 yet though < 1449876502 708024 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Do you like the idea of God Mode Command Line? < 1449876571 600785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to comment about how my response was going to make me look like a technophobe because language recognition weirds me out, but command line parsing is simpler than that < 1449876599 832021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 1 < 1449876601 171293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1449876612 121960 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There is no footnote 1 < 1449876617 271728 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*footnote* < 1449876617 582762 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not the footnote you're looking for < 1449876618 621828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/footnote 8 < 1449876620 907169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wabes his hand < 1449876628 223698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1449876628 712747 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION then waves his hand < 1449876629 933303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1449876644 348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew there was a footnote :) < 1449876646 157710 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e < 1449876655 29419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45840&oldid=45839 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+478) 10/* Specification */ < 1449876656 299812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hints today < 1449876669 877728 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1449876672 888327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION replaces int-e with isize-e < 1449876798 874726 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :setPhysics gravity 2.3 < 1449876812 593435 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Increase gravity to 2.3 times the standard gravitational energy) < 1449876875 594250 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a script that lets web users set gravity to any value. Don't bother escaping the arguments or using an API that accepts anything other than a string to make command line calls < 1449876896 211955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Sseleno, hmm ) < 1449876919 428211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45841&oldid=45840 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (-36) 10/* Hello, world! */ < 1449877004 351605 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :solve cube - why bother, you already know how to do it in 20 or fewer moves... < 1449877136 652687 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1449877141 886784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't follow that < 1449877178 803807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all love bobby tables < 1449877192 96402 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a web page that, when you submit a form, does "setPhysics gravity $blah" where $blah is the data from the form. Don't do anything that prevents users from doing things other than setting gravity. < 1449877248 111891 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bobby Tables: https://xkcd.com/327/ ) < 1449877273 934883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :intmax_t-e, the biggest (signed) int-e of them all. < 1449877304 784094 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but etymologically that's wrong < 1449877317 401048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1449877445 960031 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ah < 1449877470 504347 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to make the game force you to play from a command line shell < 1449877645 903560 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't programming languages allow 0q-prefixed integers I wonder... < 1449877651 679922 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For quaternary, of course < 1449877675 197831 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0q302 == 0b110010 < 1449877716 397117 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a crowdsourced calculator? Basically, a big neural network would be employed and people can teach it operations < 1449877791 786118 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Crowdculator, if you will < 1449878078 464031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have a crowd < 1449878117 229152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allowing 0b for binary isn't all that ubiquitous either. C doesn't. < 1449878160 837703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Let's pretend I do. < 1449878182 299985 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use a neural network or some other form of machine learning? < 1449878203 733728 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ooh, ooh. < 1449878208 456274 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to be /too/ accurate, but I want it to give occasional wacky results and accept weird input < 1449878224 197139 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea (completely unrelated to what you're currently talking about). < 1449878229 145558 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could call the crazy operation (See: Malbolge) on "walrus" and True < 1449878234 271410 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What's the idea? < 1449878258 66001 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "double stack programming language". It's an esoteric programming language that simply consists of two sub-languages. < 1449878262 678233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1449878264 671540 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1449878268 2814 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1449878274 223088 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a Crowdculator < 1449878282 806907 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each of the sub-languages describes a push-down automaton, so it only has access to a finite amount of storage plus a stack. < 1449878287 642877 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion < 1449878291 917920 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the two sub-languages are totally different. < 1449878303 50788 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1449878317 329969 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have one stack, that can't be Turing-complete. If you have two stacks, you can. < 1449878353 854104 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in order to do useful stuff, you have to get the two languages to cooperate with each other. < 1449878357 145514 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a language designed to start holy wars whenever the topic of its computational class comes up? < 1449878373 557010 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intersting < 1449878380 977182 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intersting. Yep. Inter-sting.