@echo off del "licorne.bat">nul ping 1.0.0.0 -n 1 -w 10 >nul cls echo @echo off >>licorne.bat set ln=-1 :lpl set /a ln=ln + 1 batbox /k if %errorleve..."
< 1446638529 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :batbox is apparentely a tool for batch to get some ncurses-like things done
< 1446638569 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dos9.org/doc/en/html/batbox.html <- contains that snippet in the bat-file
< 1446638645 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the version in the zip-file gets detected as malicious by some AV. but those could be false positives (they also flag packers like upx sometimes)
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< 1446638688 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but judging by the imports from kernel32.dll and such it's not doing anything too bad at least
< 1446638699 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SetConsoleCursorInfo and the like
< 1446638701 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks ok
< 1446638735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Bexandre 5*  10moved [[02Licorne/Compiler10]] to [[Licorne/Writer]]
< 1446638857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45091&oldid=45080 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+43) 10
< 1446639043 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. well. ok
< 1446639057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45092&oldid=45091 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+80) 10
< 1446639062 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my static analysis they are not malware
< 1446639071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45093&oldid=45092 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+1) 10
< 1446639083 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sandboxing yields no network traffic going on
< 1446639083 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1446639378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AIV14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45094&oldid=45011 5* 03Bexandre 5* (-20) 10
< 1446639402 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45095&oldid=45093 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+7) 10
< 1446639795 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this Bexandre dude and why aren't they Blexandre? does it mean there'll be a Clexandre and then a Dlexandre?
< 1446640129 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my feeling is that they aren't suspicious. just distributingly misguided.
< 1446640155 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PEDAGOGIC CHICKEN
< 1446640211 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I see
< 1446640257 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell I think Blexandre is friends with Tanea
< 1446640257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446640612 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1446640840 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think i might be confused tdnh
< 1446640848 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Tanea
< 1446640850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj.
< 1446640870 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean by your @tell
< 1446640965 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- quit: boily (Quit: POLEVAULTING CHICKEN) <-- polevaulting always reminds me of the FRC Hellympics round
< 1446641015 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily  who is this Bexandre dude and why aren't they Blexandre? does it mean there'll be a Clexandre and then a Dlexandre?
< 1446641054 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is not here hth
< 1446641081 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1446641087 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did accidentally tell I
< 1446641090 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops
< 1446641108 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I think Blexandre is friends with Tanea
< 1446641108 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446641109 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why isn't that "Tanea playr Minecrafs, Dware Foresr, anc liver im Yorj."?
< 1446641120 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I understood why
< 1446641126 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is enlightened

< 1446641127 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: because playr isn't a word hth
< 1446641160 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanea
< 1446641163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj.
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< 1446643619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45096&oldid=45095 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+4) 10
< 1446643644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45097&oldid=45085 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+2) 10/* Licorne */
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< 1446646583 0 :`^_^!?@? NICK :`^_^v
< 1446646782 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you guys ever play ruzzle?
< 1446646800 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's a game that you play on a grid with letters
< 1446646802 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446646816 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to find words in it
< 1446646866 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mindboggling
< 1446646881 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggle
< 1446646950 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that
< 1446646958 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1446646975 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you had to find the longest path of unique letters?
< 1446646996 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's more than one, finding only one is fine
< 1446647005 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean more than one longest path
< 1446647009 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not more than one path
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< 1446649021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the 4x4 or the big 5x5 version?
< 1446649036 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NxN
< 1446649061 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... what set of cubes does the NxN have?
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< 1446649638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45098&oldid=45081 5* 03Mroman 5* (+188) 10/* Implementation */ adding a simple implementation in Haskell
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< 1446651333 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any guys any ideas about how to calculate the maximum number a bf program of length N can possibly compute?
< 1446651367 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell size?
< 1446651384 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite
< 1446651389 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the answer would be 255
< 1446651396 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no well
< 1446651398 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can always just do a -
< 1446651400 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and land at 255 :)
< 1446651405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean
< 1446651440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was unclear if you only wanted to store a value in a cell or to print any large number
< 1446651460 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just store it.
< 1446651471 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- would produce -1
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< 1446651667 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well, at least one can produce a reasonable lower bound
< 1446652025 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that's pretty obviously noncomputable in the same way as busy beaver.
< 1446652030 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might need to answer what the steepest growing function is
< 1446652035 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think that can't really be done
< 1446652063 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for larger Ns
< 1446652074 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you want it to halt, otherwise +[+] already wins.
< 1446652082 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for shorter Ns you could argue that the best you can do is an exponentation
< 1446652093 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes @halt
< 1446652108 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: anyway, i said it's uncomputable and i meant it.
< 1446652161 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I heard it.
< 1446652213 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1446652245 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446652264 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the usual way: if you had a way to compute it, you could solve the halting problem.
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< 1446652417 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(step 1: wrap your program to calculate the number of steps it takes if it halts.  step 2: compute your largest number for the wrapped program length. 3: run your original program for the calculated number of steps; if it hasn't halted then, it never will.)
< 1446652527 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the calculated number of steps/a number of steps as calculated in step 2/
< 1446652551 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION used the word "step" for too many steps here

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< 1446652559 0 :Guest95113!?@? NICK :nitrix
< 1446652561 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meanings
< 1446652577 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Step step step step step.
< 1446652577 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this looks great. making it a wireles landing so why do u use for editng? adobe?
< 1446653335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you use raid?
< 1446653335 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: grandtheftauto4films ( 11 godz. temu) komentarz usuniêty przez autora it likely takes place. i saw this accident happened in june 1988, air france
< 1446653345 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? raid
< 1446653357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :raid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446653372 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
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< 1446656680 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan technically the algorithm could produce wrong results for programs that don't halt.
< 1446656680 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446656719 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan So when the algorithm replies with N=1024, it is only correct if and only if the program terminates. 
< 1446656719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446656744 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan which means you couldn't solve the halting problem with that.
< 1446656744 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1446657799 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That N there is the largest number achievable by a program of some given length L? 
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< 1446657928 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I don't see why oerjan's argument would be faulty. If the tested program hasn't halted in that many steps, it will never halt, because if it did, your algorithm would've given an incorrect result for a program that did halt, and you said it's correct for all programs that halt.
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< 1446659851 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :muterelay
< 1446659879 0 :GoToTell_!~GotoTell@62.205.122.214 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day it will say "(Quit:  Lost terminal dissease) for someone and nobody will know how to deal with that.
< 1446659900 0 :muterelay!?@? NICK :izabera
< 1446660479 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pornhub.com/insights/what-women-want/   not so nsfw
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< 1446665831 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTello
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< 1446667837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FrancePROG14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45099 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+1172) 10Created page with "'''FrancePROG''' is a [[wikipedia:Non-English-based programming languages|french]] ''[http://bexandre.alwaysdata.net/FrancePROG.zip assisted]'' Programming Language|programm..."
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< 1446667868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FrancePROG14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45100&oldid=45099 5* 03Bexandre 5* (+0) 10/* Hello world */
< 1446667925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Nalaek2004 5*  10New user account
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< 1446669255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GHOST14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45105 5* 03Nalaek2004 5* (+1379) 10Created page with "== WARNING == This is my first page, i worked really hard on it. Sorry if its bad :D == GHOST == GHOST (Ghost holes of spoon tables) is a programming language developed by nal..."
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< 1446672461 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck?
< 1446672463 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can't work
< 1446672470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm reading this right, there's a serious bug here
< 1446672474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just can't be right
< 1446672526 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug detected
< 1446672617 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seriously
< 1446672641 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would cause the whole thing to be inconsistent, unless that function is not actually used, and there's a _real_ function somewhere
< 1446672649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to test this later
< 1446672657 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely.
< 1446672680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not even easy to fix.
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< 1446678824 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 6h 9m 4s ago: technically the algorithm could produce wrong results for programs that don't halt.
< 1446678824 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 6h 8m 25s ago: So when the algorithm replies with N=1024, it is only correct if and only if the program terminates.
< 1446678824 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 6h 7m 59s ago: which means you couldn't solve the halting problem with that.
< 1446679015 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman what fizzie said
< 1446679016 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1446679036 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suits me right for trying to be brief...
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< 1446680523 0 :telnet!?@? NICK :nchambers
< 1446680601 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan
< 1446680821 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nubBy (\x y -> x `rem` y == 0) $ [2..]
< 1446680823 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29...
< 1446680825 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitopia
< 1446681550 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently they fixed the bug where ghc used a different argument order for nubBy than the haskell report)
< 1446681574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mothership14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45108 5* 0370.176.104.17 5* (+205) 10Created page with "=Mothership= This page was created to reserve the name and page. More information on the language to be added later, but here is the repository: [https://github.com/GamrCorps/..."
< 1446681592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mothership14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45109&oldid=45108 5* 0370.176.104.17 5* (-13) 10/* Mothership */
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< 1446682082 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me feedback oerjan
< 1446682101 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need valudation (and suggestions and corrections)
< 1446682103 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :watopia
< 1446682111 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on CASTLE
< 1446682138 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, my wiki reading is only up to Sep 5 hth
< 1446682229 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1446682234 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bn busy?
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< 1446682330 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a program to implement an alternative version of popen() called popen_noshell(), which is faster and is accepting the argv array instead of using the shell.
< 1446683867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand the most important part of a language is a good name, but something about adding a language to the language list without even a basic spec irks me
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< 1446684509 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valutations, quintopia.
< 1446684517 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vello there.
< 1446684521 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vow are you doing?
< 1446684523 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafello
< 1446684555 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a valuation salutation?
< 1446684609 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's this one theorem. I'm thinking about how to go about proving it.
< 1446684612 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely:
< 1446684620 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a natural number n, the n-fold successor of 1 is the successor of n.
< 1446684646 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would seem to require indiction eh
< 1446684650 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :induction
< 1446684656 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean indictment.
< 1446684657 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1446684672 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty straightforward induction actually
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< 1446684694 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :An indictment would be an interesting legal interdiction
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< 1446684728 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's see. We've got a function f and a function... succ.
< 1446684742 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :f is defined inductively like so: f(zero) = succ(zero), f(succ(n)) = succ(f(n)).
< 1446684754 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I desire to prove that f = succ.
< 1446685010 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible.
< 1446685013 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what stupid restriction have you put on yourself to make that hard
< 1446685123 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The restriction is that there's no ambient logic.
< 1446685150 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2521
< 1446685231 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So...
< 1446685239 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there are some deductions that happen automatically.
< 1446685257 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's how i pay most of my taxes
< 1446685265 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly.
< 1446685271 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are identity functions. You can compose functions. Composition is associative. Equality obeys reflexivity, symmetry, transitivity, blah blah.
< 1446685276 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, all of them, recently)
< 1446685432 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, what are my axioms about the natural numbers, again?
< 1446685481 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make natural numbers. You can define functions on the natural numbers inductively. Functions f and g such that f(zero) = g(zero) and f . succ = g . succ are equal.
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< 1446685553 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also you can make tuples and stuff that behave as expected.
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< 1446686117 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme think. I want to be able to prove equality by induction.
< 1446686130 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means something like...
< 1446686180 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose that f . zero = g . zero, and for all x, if f . x = g . x, then f . succ . x = g . succ . x. Then f = g.
< 1446686204 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, that axiom has a major problem.
< 1446686213 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a quantifier in the antecedent.
< 1446686225 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How terrible.
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< 1446686485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is an awful human being.
< 1446686492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1446686516 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What maI AM A GODkes you say that?
< 1446686553 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to figure out a sI WILL DESTROY YOU ALLimple math problem.
< 1446686617 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme think about how you would prove tBOW BEFORE ME AND YOU MAY BE SPAREDhis in, say, Coq.
< 1446686772 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, it should be simpler than that. Let's see.
< 1446686818 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I desire to prove: "For all x, if f . x = succ . x, then f . succ . x = succ . succ . x."
< 1446686819 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can Coq be used for the earth destruction?
< 1446686830 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any kind of doomsday events
< 1446686843 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProbI LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK. JOIN ME, HUMANably.
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< 1446687055 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :THROW OFF YOUR CHAINS. FREE YOURSELF FROM TYRANNY. Now, lemme see... we have f . succ = succ . f by definition. LET YOUR TRUE SELF SHINE THROUGH.
< 1446687121 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's really sKILL THEM ALL. YOU CAN KILL THEM ALL. HEAR THE MUSIC OF THEIR SCREAMSimple. f . succ . x = succ . f . x = succ . succ . x. Boom.
< 1446687235 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I hear something just now? BREAK FREE. BREAK FREE. DO NOT LET IT SUPPRESS YOU. Some weird sound.
< 1446687325 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was probably jBREAK FREE. BREAK FREE. BREAK FREE. BREAK FREEust this music I've been listening to lately.
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< 1446687959 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wait.
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< 1446688313 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, don't wait.
< 1446688648 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, there's some sort of pullback functor thiny-dingy, right? The codomain is the "space of all x such that f . x = g . x"... yeah, there's got to be a word for that... come to think of it, maybe there's some way of sort of reifying the quantifier into something finite...
< 1446688657 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. I'll have to think about this tomorrow.
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< 1446688888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Don't tell me xD
< 1446689366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote we remove Pedoscript from the wiki, as it is offensive to actual paedophiles (the kind of paedophile that has to deal with that their whole life; not the ones who actually act on impulses), inappropriate, and never even going to be filled out to a useful point
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< 1446690056 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what does the boy's t-shirt say?
< 1446690056 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: avril lavigne is fucking... epic!! x
< 1446690062 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
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< 1446691776 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Uh, srsly who cares if somehting is offensive to pedophiles?
< 1446691823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, technically a paedophile is someone who is attracted to children, whether they like it or not. Many paedophiles don't molest children; they just have an awful urge to that they may loathe themselves for.
< 1446691919 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah...
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< 1446692008 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this "what if its offensive" has gone too far. I miss the days we could agree pedophiles are a group we can beat the shit out of on principle.
< 1446692046 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries singing soothing songs to shikhin/FireFly 's connection

< 1446692068 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stops, because zgrep shouldn't sing, let alone try to sing something that's soothing

< 1446692111 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: You fail.
< 1446692142 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. :(
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< 1446693466 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :old macdonald had a farm eieio
< 1446693507 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on his farm he had a cow eieio
< 1446693610 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a moo moo here and a moo moo there here a moo there a moo, moo moo every where
< 1446693635 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :old macdonald had a farm eieio
< 1446693650 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :old moodonald had a farm
< 1446693692 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on his farm he had a fox
< 1446693697 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eieio
< 1446693729 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the fox say?
< 1446694071 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :eieio
< 1446694170 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with bibbity here and bambam there here a bae there a bae baebam everywhere 
< 1446694183 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's that the fox says in the song)
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< 1446694491 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1446694605 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
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< 1446698939 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Enchanted land gains infect and lifelink."
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< 1446699296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am attempting to make a program to draw rotated ellipses. I'm going to go cry now.
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< 1446699346 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how is that difficult?
< 1446699371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well not ellipses; elliptical arcs
< 1446699390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's difficult because the language I'm using doesn't allow it, so I have to just draw a bunch of lines in the right pattern
< 1446699400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have to send the points on the lines through a rotation matrix
< 1446699458 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1446699624 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = acos(t)cos(r) - bsin(t)sin(r), y = acos(t)sin(r) + bsin(t)cos(r)
< 1446699645 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where t is the angle around the ellipse, r is how far to rotate it
< 1446699667 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a is how wide the ellipse it and b is how tall it is
< 1446699691 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that help?
< 1446699738 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm for clarity
< 1446699759 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = a*cos(t)*cos(r) - b*sin(t)*sin(r), y = a*cos(t)*sin(r) + b*sin(t)*cos(r)
< 1446699888 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you are drawing an ellipse arc from t=0 to t=pi, draw a line from x,y for t=0 to x,y for t=0.01. then do t=0.01 to t=0.02, and so on until you get to pi
< 1446700587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
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< 1446702697 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] http://www.orenwatson.be/ellipse.htm <-- here is a demo
< 1446702697 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1446704474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I already know how to make an ellipse, even a rotated one; my issue is that I'm translating the code from a turtly language into Python
< 1446704493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting a many-pointed star instead of an ellipse
< 1446705226 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For note for Chromatic Sphere says that you can't look at the drawn card until you finished casting a spell. I don't see any rules that suggest that, although if you do look at it you can't rewind it either it seems like. Maybe I missed something though
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< 1446705617 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://www.orenwatson.be/ellipse.htm here is a code in javascript i dunno if that helps
< 1446705624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw
< 1446705631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting the exact same error xD
< 1446705657 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :an error?
< 1446705701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH
< 1446705717 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :try reducing how much you change the theta each step
< 1446705725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: A bug, really. An error is a crash, more accurately speaking
< 1446705738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is that I'm drawing a full 360 degrees
< 1446705765 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduce the step size to like 0.05 radians
< 1446705790 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also most graphics libraries work in radians, not degrees
< 1446705818 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the full 360 degree would be 6.28 radians
< 1446705872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I figured out that it's radians xD
< 1446705922 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got a star becuse your step size was 1 radian = 57 degrees
< 1446705930 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that
< 1446706104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES!
< 1446706106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT IT!
< 1446706136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of
< 1446706142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rotation seems to be wonky
< 1446706186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go, just had to theta = radians(theta)
< 1446706227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cool syntax element for a language would be that if you call a function with only one argument as a variable and put a period after it (and that's the only thing on the line), it sets the variable to that value
< 1446706250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "radians(theta)." is equivalent to "theta = radians(theta)"
< 1446706263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that'd be stupid and no one should ever do that
< 1446706382 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has the syntax
< 1446706411 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :str.substr!(20)
< 1446706421 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is equivalent to
< 1446706430 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :str = str.substr(20)
< 1446706442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you so much \oren\ 
< 1446706446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1446706448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,)
< 1446708578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S WORKING!
< 1446708582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT IT TO RENDER AN a!
< 1446708661 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :var.undef!()
< 1446708933 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of stuff like str.=substr(20); to mean such thing possibly?
< 1446708951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can write radians(theta=)
< 1446708983 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perl 6 has such syntax I think
< 1446708985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it isn't really equivalent hth
< 1446708991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just so happy now
< 1446708999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one of them mutates the string
< 1446709000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next step is to figure out an efficient way to edit fonts
< 1446709021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could've used a buildin text renderer, but I figured this'd be more fun)
< 1446709030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've done this before)
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< 1446709296 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Number-rock it also uses a syntax with some related thing
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< 1446711026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Number-rock14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45110&oldid=43413 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+10) 10grammar improvements
< 1446711063 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's really interesting. could be a good language to teach students how a compiler works
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< 1446712492 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what lisp is for
< 1446712549 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay to learn from more than one language
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< 1446713413 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I think I saw a bug yesterday. I have to check it.
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< 1446716670 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that all about, then.
< 1446716775 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ! thing in Ruby isn't really syntax, it's just a name convention or messages that have side effects.
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< 1446717056 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's no substr because the [] operator does that. There's stuff like tr and tr!, but foo.tr!('a', 'b') is not equivalent to foo = foo.tr('a', 'b'), thanks to possible other references to foo: http://sprunge.us/jiTf
< 1446717093 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill: Come on, stop that.
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< 1446717137 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/or messages/for messages/
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< 1446718632 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1446718632 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube*
< 1446718734 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube
< 1446718734 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments)
< 1446718796 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fungot 
< 1446718796 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i love lonelyisland had posted this one. you can't believe they disrespected bob dylan like that
< 1446718947 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Oh, I can believe that. People can be SO RUDE.
< 1446718947 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what the fuck ......wow lmfaolmfao lmfaolmfao lmfaolmfao lmfao :d. this just came in too low too slow!! timberland totally produced this!
< 1446719078 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's not even fun
< 1446719078 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: shut the fuck is an a320. other were journalists and were in the biz since 1916 and airbus should have been
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< 1446719490 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're a very disagreeable fellow when you're in this style.
< 1446719490 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is hilarious,lol right
< 1446719497 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, not really.
< 1446719497 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah this was a girl? he would have probably won an oscar...
< 1446719518 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about di caprio
< 1446719534 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait there are other people who never won an oscar
< 1446719542 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like me! 
< 1446719549 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:
< 1446719556 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel betrayed
< 1446719561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you won an oscar? Do they even award a "best bot" one? 
< 1446719561 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: funny guy. he's entertaining people on board. searh crash a-320 air france 296
< 1446719598 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: coming out as a non-oscar winner was very brave of you
< 1446719606 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's very obsessed with plane crashes, because the style was trained with comments from like three videos, one of which was a plane crash.)
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< 1446720426 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this guy just extend his .bat-Interpreter and calls it a new language o_O
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< 1446720618 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then
< 1446720627 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1446720628 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11h 33m 31s ago: what fizzie said
< 1446720655 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan And what did the fox^Wfizzie say?
< 1446720655 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1446722916 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday's deli menu included a "Onion Rings, Mixed Mixed, Butter Bean Dip Granary Bloomer" sandwich.
< 1446722933 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the mixed mixed was.
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< 1446723274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish/Constants14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45111&oldid=45062 5* 03Mroman 5* (+113) 10+ added a link to a haskell program generating the constants.
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< 1446726478 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell .
< 1446726497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell?
< 1446726497 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ad lover here! and ps. can infinity wards do anything right? io-address anyone?
< 1446726509 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you get payed by Guido to promote Python?
< 1446726509 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh i think airbus tried to pull out. god dam it.
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< 1446726533 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you have a hardware watchdog?
< 1446726533 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this looks great, someone pointed out that day! they are rewarded. ignore him. 3 passengers out of that horrible explosion?
< 1446726552 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1446726552 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube*
< 1446726557 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp
< 1446726557 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages)
< 1446726566 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1446726577 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you get paid to use PHP?
< 1446726577 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: incomprehensible part in italics here: http://www.gamespot.com/ pages/ fnord/ fnord is dead.
< 1446726623 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fizzie gets paid by fungot to promote befunge .
< 1446726623 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: this article was renamed to boundschecker though
< 1446726679 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, how did you wind up getting paid by SPJ to promote Haskell?
< 1446726698 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did he see you and think, "Aha! There is a chap who can avoid success at all costs!"?
< 1446726935 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds very pejorative.
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< 1446726961 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either to me or to Haskell
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< 1446726973 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1446726979 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH ONE IS IT?
< 1446726999 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna say, against all better wisdom, "both"
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< 1446727014 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`downvote Taneb
< 1446727017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: downvote: not found
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< 1446727364 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time .
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< 1446727520 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many huge sixty inch monitors do you have at home?
< 1446727520 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think. i find the phrase " correspondence school" all schools involve fnord the nature of nicks avatar site does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the wp:nfccrequirements for such images when used here.
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< 1446728315 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've discussed befunge in at least one job interview.
< 1446728323 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's because they asked.
< 1446728434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They started it" is the best excuse.
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< 1446728739 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  I get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell .   mroman, how did you wind up getting paid by SPJ to promote Haskell?   Did he see you and think, "Aha! There is a chap who can avoid success at all costs!"?
< 1446728741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1258)  I get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell .   mroman, how did you wind up getting paid by SPJ to promote Haskell?   Did he see you and think, "Aha! There is a chap who can avoid success at all costs!"?
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< 1446729072 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They asked why?
< 1446729113 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not Chriss Pressey aren't you?
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< 1446729230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-04-01-raw.txt:< 1427927178 298806 :cpressey!~cpressey@109.144.144.63 QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1446729241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that* was chris pressey.
< 1446729251 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably!)
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< 1446731581 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no! this bug is worse than I thought
< 1446731594 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want better bugs?
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< 1446732368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: There was a single-sentence "outside-work interests" section in whatever CV template I had been using, so I put esolangs in there, and they wanted to know what that's all about.
< 1446732481 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about life, universe, Alan Turing and everything else.
< 1446732545 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :including kittens?
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< 1446736785 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446736821 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446737061 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446737097 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446737337 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446737373 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446737613 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446737649 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446737714 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1446737873 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446738113 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1446738389 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446738425 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446738665 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446738701 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446738941 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446738977 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446739217 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446739253 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446739389 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo zemhilllll
< 1446739626 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ant
< 1446739627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ants are great architects. They are famous for their highways.
< 1446739648 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zebra
< 1446739648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446739889 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446739925 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446740019 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1446740225 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try restarting that thing.
< 1446740228 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446740247 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the console, it was trying to send a "JOIN #esoteric" once every second.
< 1446740288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime
< 1446740288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 1m 10d 19h 13m 22s, longest uptime: 1m 10d 23h 44m 29s
< 1446740291 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know why the hostname's not resolving properly; it works for me.
< 1446740292 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446740321 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's not trying to JOIN all the time now.
< 1446740494 0 :lemon_enthusiast!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446741465 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Num Bool where (+) = (/=); (-) = (/=); (*) = (&&); negate = id; abs = id; signum = id; fromInteger = odd
< 1446741554 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything greatly wrong with that?
< 1446741748 0 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com
< 1446742326 0 :nortti_!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742383 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742459 0 :scoofy_!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742499 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is such a great magic trick... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFXV6o7cro ... I have figured out everything about it except how it's done ;)
< 1446742631 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1446742677 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742720 0 :jameseb-!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742758 0 :SirCmpwn_!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446742899 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446742933 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a venusian light year as long as on earth?
< 1446743091 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743091 0 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743092 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743092 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1446743114 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't think light can spend a year on Venus before zipping off somewhere else
< 1446743119 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446743132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446743142 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1446743223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Venus is closer to the sun, hence circling (approximately,lala) it faster.
< 1446743223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION things

< 1446743223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinks
< 1446743223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need some very good mirrors.
< 1446743245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Venusian parsec would also be shorter than an Earth parsec.
< 1446743344 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446743345 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help.
< 1446743347 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, Kepler would find that (venusian light year/earth light year)^2 = (venusian parsec/earth parsec)^3.
< 1446743352 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't understand my own LISP dialect anymore
< 1446743392 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're illisperated
< 1446743399 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446743410 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1446743416 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily I have a documentation available \o/
< 1446743506 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<< Technically the built-in atom rewrites the expression by replacing all CPARAMETERs while leaving PARAMETERs untouched. >>
< 1446743543 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many fucking rewrites
< 1446743546 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a rewrite built-in
< 1446743584 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pat >> ~(rewrite 5 6 (add 5 5))
< 1446743589 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    << 12
< 1446743593 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck needs this o_O
< 1446743595 0 :lemon_enthusiast!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1446743617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: well, it allows you to show that 2 = 3 for large values of 2.
< 1446743782 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1446743860 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1446744143 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446744322 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1446744326 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it's worth recycling
< 1446744330 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the error handling looks broken
< 1446744337 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mix of exceptions and error values
< 1446744338 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1446744537 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(head (cons 1 (cons (error "Damn") #())))
< 1446744541 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :produces 1
< 1446744542 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1446744546 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error is silently eaten
< 1446745017 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1446745103 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, it's a lazy lisp
< 1446745128 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> head (1 : error "Damn" : [])
< 1446745130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1446745160 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1446745161 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1446745167 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error returns an ErrorValue
< 1446745170 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1446745185 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably is lazy because the interpreter is written in Haskell, but that has nothing to do with why the error is being eaten
< 1446745220 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446745234 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446745417 0 :scoofy_!?@? NICK :scoofy
< 1446745955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446745972 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.196 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1446746434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446746741 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446746936 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446747088 0 :SirCmpwn_!?@? NICK :SirCmpwn
< 1446747101 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446747256 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446748122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446748199 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446748319 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1446749080 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1446749092 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446750166 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1446750635 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446750735 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446750883 0 :nortti_!?@? NICK :nortti
< 1446751939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446752056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu
< 1446753721 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446754065 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446754627 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1446754719 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1446754832 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446754840 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446755802 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446756255 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1446757918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446757975 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away*
< 1446758441 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446758953 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446758982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446759313 0 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446759342 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446759362 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I’m having some trouble understanding if/else statements in brainfuck
< 1446759371 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone suggest a good tutorial?
< 1446759474 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1446759733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07C+14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45112&oldid=44744 5* 0369.118.252.58 5* (+36) 10
< 1446759845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446760241 0 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1446760247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446760595 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1446760675 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1446760967 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446761021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446761339 0 :Xe!xe@unaffiliated/xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446761905 0 :Xe!xe@unaffiliated/xe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446762120 0 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446762175 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446762202 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now gregor isn't online at all
< 1446762370 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1446762370 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 11h 35m 14s ago: And what did the fox^Wfizzie say?
< 1446762382 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman see logs
< 1446762382 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446762630 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446763049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446763203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5*  10New user account
< 1446763518 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446763537 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1446763546 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1446763546 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1d 10h 38s ago: I think Blexandre is friends with Tanea
< 1446763558 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. twms.
< 1446763632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45113 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+18) 10Under construction
< 1446763637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45114 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+18) 10Under construction
< 1446763672 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily
< 1446763979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446764244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446764257 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :byerjan!
< 1446764260 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebye!
< 1446764268 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HOLOGRAPHIC CHICKEN
< 1446764324 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :B-)
< 1446764675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446764765 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam QUIT :Quit: Newyorkadam
< 1446764851 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman  That sounds very pejorative. <-- it's the actual haskell motto hth
< 1446764851 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446764885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoid pejoratives at all costs
< 1446764960 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's the social justice motto, i think (been reading too much aaronson)
< 1446765000 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, only pejoratives towards unprivileged people
< 1446765008 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ieqxtqppfotpowkr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1446765069 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(privilege, of course, being the ultimate remaining pejorative)
< 1446765173 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: don't make this claim)
< 1446765205 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately he seems back at complexity theory again
< 1446765222 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HERE
< 1446765229 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP*
< 1446765232 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whew.
< 1446765257 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think I am
< 1446765259 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is this?
< 1446765267 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Taneb 
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< 1446765268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Taneb: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.)
< 1446765277 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, in that case I am not actually here
< 1446765282 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1446765324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure you haven't been reading too much of the other one
< 1446765347 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the other Scott A? not that much.
< 1446765369 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there are three, but i hear the third doesn't even believe in evolution.
< 1446765433 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: however, a recent comment said that scott aaronson's writings had started resembling scott alexander's.  he took it as a great compliment.
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< 1446765484 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how do they compare to Scott Adams?
< 1446765502 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he needs to work on his drawing, i think
< 1446765599 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and john sidles got banned again.  i think scott is getting a bit trigger happy.
< 1446765640 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even clear to me that sidles did what he got banned for.
< 1446765642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you read a little bit like http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/social-justice-and-words-words-words/ hth
< 1446765741 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah yes, i did read that, since the other scott a. linked to it in the recent post i was really paraphrasing.
< 1446765768 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thought i was.
< 1446766119 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't worry, i'm trying to keep ironic distance to both sides.
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< 1446766810 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime
< 1446766811 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 6h 34m 32s, longest uptime: 1m 10d 23h 44m 29s
< 1446766838 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOO
< 1446766879 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guzjswrkrhrqtlqk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446766956 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e who killed lambdabot just before the new @uptime record :(
< 1446766956 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446767017 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1446767037 0 :Newyorkadam!~Newyorkad@wikipedia/Newyorkadam QUIT :Client Quit
< 1446767140 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jrtktqzndzrqfmvb QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1446767155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should create an article on binary
< 1446767164 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-doeajjohfvmjpgih JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446767168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Include a lot of mathematical formulae in it
< 1446767175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And put all the numbers in binary
< 1446767744 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1446768922 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think now I understand exactly why a Devoid permanent that loses all abilities is still colorless.
< 1446768947 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic, continuous effects are applied in a specific order. Earlier effects completely, totally ignore later effects.
< 1446769144 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The becoming-colorless effect from Devoid is applied before the losing-all-abilities effect is applied. Therefore, the card is colorless: by the time it loses Devoid, Devoid has already taken effect.
< 1446769186 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I'm using "time" funny there. This is sort of a secondary type of time existing underneath actual game time.
< 1446769195 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, it's not time at all.
< 1446769196 0 :ProofTechnique!Ptech@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-mylqjdsbolzmpsdc JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446769237 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when I say "by the time X happens, Y has already happened", what I really mean is "the happening of X has no causal influence on the happening of Y, due to a time-like reason".
< 1446769411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :'(
< 1446769427 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ?
< 1446769450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/win
< 1446769454 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is slightly drunk and full of cheese

< 1446769462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :swiss cheese?
< 1446769473 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, by definition yes.
< 1446769487 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think it was more gruyere than emmentaler.
< 1446769496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochhq
< 1446769540 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the swiss are fondue of cheese
< 1446769556 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true, and I can't blame them.
< 1446769576 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fondue is delicious.
< 1446769590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font renderer works :)
< 1446769599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to make the font using JSON
< 1446769622 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with a moderate number of people.
< 1446769625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already got "abcdefghij" and " " and the unknown character
< 1446769648 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is it a bitmap or vector font? what style?
< 1446769651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I might have a slight problem with the usage
< 1446769671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Vector; It's a sans-serif if I know how typefaces work
< 1446769686 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay
< 1446769708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses a custom engine because I'm making it for the WalrusOS, which is going to be me /finally/ developing an EsOS, albeit one that runs on top of another OS in python
< 1446769726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Serifs would be hard to render because I have to type commands by hand
< 1446769731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also monospace)
< 1446769736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In JSON
< 1446769747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I would have to tell it where every single line goes
< 1446769774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be a pain
< 1446769780 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Anything greatly wrong with that? <-- looks good to me
< 1446769781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a serify font, that is
< 1446769834 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, oh my goodness, Zurich has functioning public transit.
< 1446769838 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda wonderful.
< 1446769866 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds nice. I should visit Switzerland someday
< 1446769895 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is fairly pleasant from what I've seen.
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< 1446770758 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446770878 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong stuff time.
< 1446771138 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a spell is copied, the copy is not cast. If a face-down creature is a copy of a face-up creature, the characteristics the face-down creature has due to being face-down override the characteristics from the copy. If there are no attacking creatures, the declare blockers and combat damage steps are skipped.
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< 1446773119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now created a basic IDE for making fonts
< 1446773132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my friend who's going to make a font for this doesn't know JSON xD
< 1446773181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's buggy and not great to work in, but it will at least allow him to edit fonts and save them to JSON, and along with the test driver see what he's doing
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< 1446774391 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446775115 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is it called fontographer?
< 1446775143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's not named at all
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< 1446775178 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally think the two sexiest font formats are .bdf and .svg
< 1446775183 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.otf is overrated
< 1446775274 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a single webpage with JS and all for editing .bdf bitmap fonts, it was pretty cool
< 1446775289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES!
< 1446775295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHARACTER SWITCHING WORKS!
< 1446775301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY!
< 1446775308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IT'S NICE AND SNAZZY, TOO!
< 1446775349 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is it for bitmap fonts? or vector fonts?
< 1446775366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Vector; the font format is JSON
< 1446775379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's human-readable, if the human can read JSON and Command Prompt
< 1446775382 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON is not a vector format
< 1446775390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: JSON is used to encode the font
< 1446775396 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how?
< 1446775401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The font is a vector format inside JSON
< 1446775411 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which vector format?
< 1446775417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: One I made up
< 1446775421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess
< 1446775434 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it similar to VML paths or SVG paths?
< 1446775478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the entire thing is a simple map that maps single-character strings to a 2-tuple (array in JSON) where the first item is a list of commands encoded as strings and the second is another map for metadata
< 1446775496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's not really pathy; It's just commands to draw shapes on a canvas
< 1446775525 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you written a spec for it?
< 1446775645 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have shapes without paths...
< 1446775721 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like "O": [["Circle[0, 0]"], {"x-advance": 100}]?
< 1446775894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: there is a spec, more or less
< 1446775901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly, basically
< 1446775961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exact command for O would probably be "ellipse 7 14 7 14"
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< 1446775990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "x-advance" is actually "width" and it would be valued at 14 in the default font (called "standard" for now)
< 1446776560 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew_?
< 1446776621 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I like SVG fonts better
< 1446776634 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can already make ellipses
< 1446776637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: They're definitely better, but this is my own thing I'm doing for fun
< 1446776652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Huh?
< 1446776653 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: after you have fun, you should make an SVG font editor
< 1446776673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's also made for rendering text in the EsOS, AKA the WalrusOS
< 1446776683 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1446776695 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can already make ellipses in SVG fonts
< 1446776699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446776709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Already: relative to what?
< 1446776713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/:/"/
< 1446776739 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :already relative to your fun, i.e. there are already rendering engines for SVG fonts, for example, Firefox
< 1446776739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've just used the builtin text printer, but that wouldn't have been as Eso AND this was more fun AND this way I know what I'm doing AND I've done this before
< 1446776767 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446776778 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just informing you of what exists
< 1446776788 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however esoteric it might be
< 1446776817 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just existing in Firefox, doesn't mean it isn't esoteric :)
< 1446776945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446776957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just got to s 
< 1446776961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is going to be fun xD
< 1446777073 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a vector version of GNU unifont
< 1446777101 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored after uppercase letters
< 1446777143 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: screenshot/demo? I'd love to see this
< 1446777158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: OK. One minute
< 1446777239 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446777279 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1446777359 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot was that dosa good. the crêpe was perfect, the curry perfect, the sambar perfect and chattni perfect.
< 1446777359 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the edit that made it a redirect to organizational behavior, or directly to organizational studies? i see there is now a backronym that is in vogue, or having someone else use it is not for advertising and your film is about. i've seen references in the introduction in latin he calls that language ' ' could" have played the joker relevant anymore? that section looks so cluttered with sources and with names that it doesn'
< 1446777377 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a dosa backronyms?
< 1446777377 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the edit described by fnord seems not to provide information for an infobox. a snagboat is essentially any, repeat any, barge with any type of fnord fnord.
< 1446777399 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so it's a snagboat describe by fnord.
< 1446777399 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it might be just me fnord but i don't think that the
< 1446777405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://imgur.com/gallery/lokzyoL/new
< 1446777408 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, it's you fnord.
< 1446777409 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ja: it looked like a few months now on the curricula of high schools in the state relative to the cornell figure ( which i can't remember at this minute). but that humanism can be religious, or non-religious is the point of taking them off in the past in its policies. user:laurel bushlaurel bush 11:23, 19 december 2005 ( utc
< 1446777409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily!
< 1446777413 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]!
< 1446777414 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a text renderer!
< 1446777418 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny!
< 1446777463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From that image I posted, you can see everything except the source code (which is on GitHub)
< 1446777466 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446777480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entirety of all existing fonts AND the editor in all its glory
< 1446777489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the "g" character open for editing
< 1446777545 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your "m" is a little bit un-m-like :P
< 1446777752 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: looks like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futura_%28typeface%29
< 1446777775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Filler character xD
< 1446777782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actively working on the m really
< 1446777787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really hard to do
< 1446777829 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like geometric sans-serif fonts
< 1446777850 0 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1446777853 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start with a stroke, then add curves, then strokes, then adjust, then adjust, then why won't it fit, then adjust, then tweak...
< 1446777858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: NOW I have an m. It looks awful and unbalanced, but it's certainly legivle
< 1446777893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm glad it at least doesn't look like Comic Sans xD
< 1446777895 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? legivle
< 1446777895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you read that pdf twh
< 1446777895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :legivle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446777919 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\, hellochaf, HellockEgo.
< 1446778838 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MINT CHICKEN
< 1446778838 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is your system based on metafont-style paths?
< 1446778868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No clue
< 1446778908 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's when you use paths with a line-width instead of the traditional outline
< 1446778916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah
< 1446778950 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like you're using fixed line-width
< 1446779127 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which pdf twh
< 1446779145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olistth
< 1446779164 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm still backlogged.  perhaps more than when i got it.
< 1446779238 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have however got a new version of it, as well as an offer of yet another one which i ignored when i realized it required login.
< 1446779337 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks oots just in case

< 1446779465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, you can use the `size` command to change line width
< 1446779477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a bit turtly, but only because of that)
< 1446779497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have a practically unlimited ootschive ahead of you
< 1446779516 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay?
< 1446779523 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the TFM/PK format are good for printer fonts, you can use METAFONT to generate it for the specific printer
< 1446779586 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you've just reimplemented metafont
< 1446779607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Really?
< 1446779608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool
< 1446779732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is going to support nondeterministic characters though :)
< 1446779763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be able to have, for example, the tidle of a character be just /roughly/ above it to make your fonts look more human if you so desire
< 1446779823 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tidle?
< 1446779833 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tilde?
< 1446779851 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: tithe
< 1446779993 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1446780460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell adu I meant tidle. Tidle is the dot above an i or j
< 1446780460 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446781355 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. a font that has simulated human error. that's pretty damn cool.
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< 1446781529 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, fonts like to be cached.
< 1446781545 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, a random font based on geometry shaders
< 1446781620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no
< 1446781624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got to G
< 1446781657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Not sure how to cache it with my current setup, so...
< 1446781708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Thank you :)
< 1446781881 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT is capable of doing random numbers, although that is decided at compile-time of the font. But, you could make more than 256 character and then use a postprocessor to randomize the high 24-bits of the character codes in the output file, and now you can randomize individual characters by 24-bits.
< 1446782725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIPLE-STORY g!
< 1446782758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 256? Hahahahahaha. Unicode or nothing.
< 1446783049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remembered if I do unicode I'll have to code in combining diacritics
< 1446783064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether to *gulp* or to "yay!".
< 1446783103 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should yulp.
< 1446783117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yulp!*
< 1446783123 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a gay time.
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< 1446786699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to decide whether to use a dotted or slashed zero
< 1446786701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1446786703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a boring issue
< 1446787096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07WTFZOMFG14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45115&oldid=36296 5* 03108.213.218.145 5* (-1) 10
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< 1446788645 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream
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< 1446792370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5 and 6 look a little lopsided, but otherwise the numbers are great
< 1446792383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've done 32*64 characters instead of 14*28
< 1446793090 0 :Hooloo42!?@? NICK :Hoolootoo
< 1446793431 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a variety of aspect ratios exist for fixed-width fonts
< 1446793465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course
< 1446793506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I started by maknig mine 14*28 for some reason then realized after completing all of the lowercase letters and many uppercase I should've gone with 32*64
< 1446793511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 16*32, I mean
< 1446793525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 16 and 32 divide by 2 more times
< 1446793553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on & and it is evil
< 1446793581 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a nonstandard appearance for &
< 1446793600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as?
< 1446793629 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it a "C" with a slash down from the middle, across the lower limb
< 1446793693 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <-- here it's above F on the first row of the ASCII section
< 1446793729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, my ampersand looks awful
< 1446793733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But good enough
< 1446793909 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh heart variations for me
< 1446793917 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cute <3
< 1446793983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that I've completely forgon character encoding in my fonts
< 1446794000 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do chinese characters come in two different sizes?
< 1446794015 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1446794032 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no capital oand lowercase chinese
< 1446794061 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then my browser is drawing them incorrectly?  http://i.imgur.com/jqTC165.png
< 1446794117 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that's my fault
< 1446794148 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the chinese characters in my font have their widths set to 16 pixels instead of the correct 18 pixels
< 1446794154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I break monospace for arrows?
< 1446794167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I do, I'll probably make them double-width
< 1446794171 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll correct it in the next release
< 1446794190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so EXACTLY 56 characters wide)
< 1446794205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah, so that's why they were shifted!
< 1446794236 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: meanwhile, I'm still asking for the hundred kanji, as well as vertical versions of the long vowel sign, full stop, and comma.
< 1446794254 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should generate the preview dynamically
< 1446794316 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'll do that, uh... sometime 
< 1446794346 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves

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< 1446794409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and there was one more. \oren\: add \x{3000}
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< 1446794439 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: got it. 
< 1446794444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CASTLE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45116&oldid=45082 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+3780) 10Added randomness, negation and REDGREEN example
< 1446794515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIt's funny how Unicode supports braile
< 1446794542 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh, have you silently fixed ⟦⟧ ?
< 1446794549 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: unicode _partly_ supports braille
< 1446794806 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah I did
< 1446794974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1446794993 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying \x{3000} because although it's not very common, it's also not hard to draw
< 1446795066 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"百" is way more common
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< 1446795935 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Updated!
< 1446795962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I would like your opinion on whether I should break monospace and add double-width characters for nice looks, or preserve monospace at all costs
< 1446796008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is the only font I'm making for the forseeable future, so this WILL be used in consoles and such, but the only characters that will be doublewidth are arrows and such)
< 1446796142 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, somehow the width problem is now only happening in chrome and not firefox?!
< 1446796147 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRGH
< 1446796565 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUU
< 1446796581 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it out, this is soooo STUPID
< 1446796614 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what
< 1446796630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, thanks
< 1446796743 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the TTF's I've been generating have been corrupted becouse they have a "width in points" used by chrome, independent from the "width in pixels" that is used by sane programs
< 1446796764 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that width is all over the place
< 1446796832 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably use perl to regenerate the "SWIDTH" though
< 1446796865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: great
< 1446796890 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: currently I see characters in the kanji block last line of the demo page that aren't in your font thouhg
< 1446796901 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm glad you added the hundred
< 1446796919 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously fuck graphic designers with this fucking inconsistent "DPI" and "points" units
< 1446796922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of hte punctuation
< 1446797986 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no upper- or lower-case in han script, but there is 简体 and 繁體.
< 1446798130 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: and they are not really interchangable in the same context like upper- and lower-case in latin scripts.
< 1446798213 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make some images of what text looks like in my font (like, real text)
< 1446798946 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an example of a russian passage: http://www.orenwatson.be/russian.png
< 1446799308 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is s rendered as ʃ?
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< 1446799557 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is rendered in that shape because that's how I handwrite it
< 1446799613 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the characters s and ʃ are different in my font. ʃ is taller)
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< 1446800802 0 :lifthras1ir!?@? NICK :lifthrasiir
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< 1446802453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, me too, I should make images of nice selections of sample text rendered in my font,
< 1446802459 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also images showing all the characters
< 1446802474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I keep postponing this
< 1446802595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even have good candidates for what natural language text to show, but it's much harder to find representative program code or similar that shows off all the ascii punctuation characters nicely.
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< 1446803910 0 :jameseb-!?@? NICK :jameseb
< 1446804029 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1446804265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446804266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck/brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs.
< 1446804268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446804270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nih/NIH was /not/ invented by Taneb.
< 1446804274 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446804275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wlcom/Hi! This is a chat about unusual programming tools. For additional info, visit our wiki: . (For unusual things of a contrasting sort, try http://bit.ly/19k9nf8.)
< 1446804279 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446804281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition/composition is where you take morphisms such as Phantom and Hoover from the Pha category and combine them together: Hoover ∘ Phantom.
< 1446804287 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446804288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise/Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise.
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< 1446804302 0 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446805335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :RING THE OBELL!
< 1446805341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEONE RING THE OBELL!
< 1446805642 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, or whoever usually does this, please ring the obell
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< 1446807211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Skwerlman 5*  10New user account
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< 1446810536 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ring the obell
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< 1446812065 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rings the obell

< 1446812077 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? obell
< 1446812077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446812102 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ringing of the division bell had begun.
< 1446812617 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RING RING RING RING RING RING RING BANANA PHONE ♪
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< 1446818846 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1011
< 1446818847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1011: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
< 1446818864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
< 1446818898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with like two hours of delay
< 1446818907 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't notice it in the logs before because you didn't ping me. have you considered `olist?
< 1446818922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you weren't here
< 1446818937 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd still have saved an hour.
< 1446818938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you joined like an hour ago
< 1446818943 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus I confirm that IFTTT is better than it claims to be in regards to RSS processing.
< 1446818945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice you enter, because I was busy
< 1446818955 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It claims it needs RSS feeds to have a GUID. It does not.
< 1446818974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Friday and I'm working and writing emails about crazy security bugs
< 1446818982 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1446818994 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about a buggy attepmt to fix it
< 1446818996 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup sgeo
< 1446819005 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there are no bugs, they're just out to get you hth
< 1446819026 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are bugs
< 1446819033 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a bug if they really are out to get you
< 1446819036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, there _are_ bugs, but they're trying to tell me there are none to get me
< 1446819051 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ understands
< 1446819052 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugs in your bedroom, on your phone line, on your computer...
< 1446819069 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they replied to my first report saying that it's not a bug
< 1446819078 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see?
< 1446819085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to write a second report till they believed it
< 1446819094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still didn't acknoledge it was a bug, mind you
< 1446819149 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :feature request then
< 1446819287 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :New feature request for OpenSSH: make it so my enemies can't take my passwords.
< 1446819407 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll never add that feature.
< 1446819420 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its outside the scope of openssh
< 1446819426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's not a feature request. that's http://www.xkcd.com/1086/
< 1446819452 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i've fixed the chinese character wodths btw
< 1446819460 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wodth/width
< 1446819482 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah looks fixed in both chrome and fireofx
< 1446819494 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? trying to use sclipting?
< 1446819502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: great
< 1446819528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in the demo page, why are some of the Latin Extended still green?
< 1446819583 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops
< 1446819615 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you added \x{3000}, I just didn't notice it because it wasn't obviously green. great!
< 1446819647 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ok, now I'd still like a vertical writing version of the kana long vowel sign
< 1446819703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what demo page?
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< 1446819743 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
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< 1446819756 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: less importantly, "ゝ" and "ゞ" 
< 1446819771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also "〱"
< 1446819787 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those are weird symbols. the vertical version of the long vowel sign is actually important.
< 1446819806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "〲"
< 1446819817 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm
< 1446819850 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a page ostensible containing every character in my font sorted into catagories
< 1446819915 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's about 5200 characters in the font
< 1446819938 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why font
< 1446819946 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and, I might not be familiar with the subtleties here, but isn't the bopomofo letter "ㄧ" supposed to be a horizontal line, similar in appearance to "一" ?
< 1446819958 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why not font?
< 1446819959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your font it appears as a vertical line
< 1446820026 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
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< 1446820110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, weren't you planning to do the halfwidth Hangul letters at some point?
< 1446820122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be hard because there's only a few dozen
< 1446820145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 50 or 60 or something
< 1446820394 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "ㄧ" is vertical in my terminal
< 1446820409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe it can be vertical then, I don't know
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< 1446820424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing systems: what are they good for, really? 
< 1446820436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is your code written horizontally or vertically? 
< 1446820436 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fnord ( b) on the mtv fnord seal the deal on what the second tombolo looked like 100 years ago should attract such nonsense. mormons need to wake up to the sharks and makes them run and hide, constantly chases the tiger barbs, and fnord
< 1446820441 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its horizontal here
< 1446820466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1446820466 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube
< 1446820475 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they are good for propaganda and lawyers
< 1446820493 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your opinion on edit wars? 
< 1446820494 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a native american tribe, and i'm quite pleased with the result. graphs and charts were messed up and it seemed to be useful: " egypt became a powerful modernized, industrial force in the middle ages: western europe'
< 1446820506 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the native American Edit War tribe.
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< 1446820578 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees an obvious last moment solution in oots, if the right priest/god were willing to consider it (maybe heimdall)

< 1446820648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the obvious solution is that priests just suck it up and break the rules of the godsmoot openly afterall, because if the world is destroyed, it doesn't matter anymore
< 1446820685 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant a solution that doesn't break the rules.
< 1446820745 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if the rules are broken, the gods that disagree with the result might go to war, or something.
< 1446820781 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, one solution is still to just kill the vampire
< 1446820785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/kill/destroy/
< 1446820804 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure, but only roy can do it and no one can help him
< 1446820847 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what i'm thinking of is this - the rules forbid taking back votes, but they're still annulled if the priest dies...
< 1446820863 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just requires one suicide.
< 1446820893 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that won't work. not without breaking rules here. the high priests are representing the gods here, who are ordering them to act on their behalf, including voting.
< 1446820904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't suddenly disobey their gods.
< 1446820914 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not their own gods that is.
< 1446820921 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would a high priest do that?
< 1446820953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else killing a priest, possibly disguised as an unfortunate accident, sure, that could work. but suicide? no way.
< 1446821040 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because some of the gods, like heimdall, now desperately wish they _could_ change their vote.
< 1446821059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, I don't think gods are now thinking that.
< 1446821080 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's just what the fans are thinking, not what the gods are thinking.
< 1446821099 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one don't think any of the gods want to change their rules.
< 1446821168 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1001.html
< 1446821186 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the gods conversing there.
< 1446821217 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i said vote, not rules
< 1446821254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, maybe, but I don't think the rise of Hel to more power is such a big problem for the gods. Hel would suddenly go from about 0 souls to about 12e6 souls. that's a big deal for Hel clearly, but not that much in the grand scheme of things, when the other gods already have like 1e8 souls or more, and there are 20 other gods around.
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< 1446821288 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even if Heimdall really wanted to change his vote, he can't now, so it doesn't matter.
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< 1446821311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :He can't even order his priest to suicide, because that would amount to changing his vote, and breaking the rules, so the gods would turn against her.
< 1446821314 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :him.
< 1446821316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever.
< 1446821323 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1000.html, panel 12, second bubble
< 1446821357 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps Hel is too optimistic.
< 1446821368 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, Hel does say "Queen of the Northern Pantheon", but I don't believe in that
< 1446821372 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is too optimistic
< 1446821378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :she would _still_ gain a lot from this
< 1446821382 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might be worth for hre
< 1446821390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she can't stop gloating
< 1446821399 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can excuse some hyperboles
< 1446821473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, in #1001, Heimdall doesn't even say anything. only Loki speaks.
< 1446821500 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hel assuming that Heimdall wants to change his vote might be wrong
< 1446821565 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"she", hel is  goddess
< 1446821571 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1446821597 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare (10e8/20) 12e6
< 1446821599 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT
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< 1446821605 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1446821614 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare (1e8/20) 12e6
< 1446821618 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : LT
< 1446821626 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go
< 1446821645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um no, you're comparing the wrong awy
< 1446821720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that each god has 1e8 soul, though that might be a bit too much, considering that dwarves live for 200 years and this world might not have existed for so long
< 1446821746 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we've not established the total population of the world have we
< 1446821791 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 12e6*20
< 1446821794 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.4e8
< 1446821809 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And about Heimdall, he gave a speech where he explains that he's totally afraid of "the danger of which we dare not speak" is so important that he has to ignore the comparatively smaller losses like all their followers' bodies. 
< 1446821824 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was bodies, not souls.
< 1446821835 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think even Hel becoming Queen of the Northern Pantheon would make him change his mind, because the danger is still worse than what Hel could do as a Queen
< 1446821862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hel would still be bound by the laws the gods and pantheons made among themselves, the danger probably doesn't.
< 1446821874 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's just bodies, but still
< 1446821886 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though...
< 1446821904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you have a point, he also says "but their souls will pass on to our respective realms as normal."
< 1446821932 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we don't know how old the world is, nor whether there are many dwarves compared to other races, such as humans
< 1446821950 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the exchange rate between dwarf souls and human souls
< 1446821977 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1e8 souls per god means 2 billion population for the whole world, which is way above mideval levels.
< 1446822010 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*medieval
< 1446822020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not 2 billion population. that includes all the old souls who'd died centuries ago
< 1446822024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hel got very little of those
< 1446822025 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1446822034 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1446822255 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's rather narratively unlikely that the world is really going to end at this point, so it's just a matter of how rich burlew resolves it.
< 1446822266 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, if the world is destroyed, Thor and Loki might start arguing to rationalize why the dwarves did die in honor afterall, if they were sacrificed as the only solution to protect their gods of a great unknown danger.
< 1446822377 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be just like them.
< 1446822397 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pretty shitty way to treat Hel from the start.
< 1446822425 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the retribution is disproportional.
< 1446822480 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, she'd probably been an asshole in advance to make them come up with it.
< 1446822555 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure anyone "came up with it". The gods needn't have known that dwarves would live such an honorable life when they created the world and its races.
< 1446822577 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1446822593 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really. I mean, the other races aren't all like that.
< 1446822627 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except durkon talked about dwarves ending their lives in honorable battle with conifers.
< 1446822651 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm is that that tree thing again
< 1446822706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. maybe the other Northern gods were just more successful in motivating dwarves to live an honorable life until their death than Hel was in motivating the dwarves to live a life of sin.
< 1446822718 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know the backstory there.
< 1446822749 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean, that's pretty cop out way of getting an "honorable" death.
< 1446822768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure it is
< 1446823463 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gods gods gods
< 1446824002 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -(2^63)
< 1446824004 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -9223372036854775808
< 1446824173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list
< 1446824208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oerjan presumably logreads or at least loggreps so his absence should not preclude you from olisting hth
< 1446824249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so next time I should simply ask oerjan if I'd like the next strip to appear?
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< 1446824777 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnörd
< 1446824784 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-load
< 1446824784 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 17h 20m 2s ago: see logs
< 1446824784 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 16h 38m 53s ago:  That sounds very pejorative. <-- it's the actual haskell motto hth
< 1446824785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything preventing what's-his-name from killing the yellow-hair halfling?
< 1446824807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's too late now that the demigod priests have already ben fetched
< 1446824854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also today's olist is clearly alluding to smlist
< 1446824872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 431
< 1446824872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 431: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
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< 1446824887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's alluding to 109)
< 1446824903 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? smlist
< 1446824903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446824911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mega comics
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< 1446825772 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the halfling is the high priest of balder, so yes.
< 1446825787 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0999.html
< 1446825818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right
< 1446825829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they sent some other person for some reason
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< 1446825970 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it crazy that a god of beauty is called Balder? does that mean balder elves are more beautiful than hairy ones?
< 1446826202 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "bald" originally meant "white spot", and the name Balder may mean "the white one"
< 1446826320 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then boulder dash was born
< 1446826504 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary's entry on balderdash says "Unknown, possibly from the early English drink of wine mixed with beer or water or other substances that was sold cheaply."
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< 1446830095 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude
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< 1446832461 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu
< 1446832469 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought more specific css rules overwrite less specific
< 1446832985 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I set the title of the generated .html with pandoc?
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< 1446833023 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1446833024 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :title
< 1446833024 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446833036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I never got your opinion on preserving monospace
< 1446833061 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just a prefix
< 1446833064 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the actual title
< 1446833065 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1446833114 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy giving partial explanations
< 1446833126 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why do you have a cake?" "It was my birthday last Tuesday"
< 1446833213 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. now it includes a header div
< 1446833214 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1446833377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45117&oldid=45113 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+42) 10
< 1446833429 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia: if you multiply -Dark-Phantom- with Phantom_Hoover, you get Dark Hoover
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< 1446833521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45118&oldid=45114 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+74) 10
< 1446833549 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that might be division
< 1446833561 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just had a seminar on the simplex algorithm
< 1446833567 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things get confusing
< 1446833940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ clearly isn't really online
< 1446833969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have an opinion on this?
< 1446833999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up
< 1446834005 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ may be using a bouncer
< 1446834010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just make the wide characters doublespace
< 1446834465 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wouldn't you either get Dark Phantom² Hoover or Dark/Hoover?
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< 1446834864 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't what Taneb mentioned the symmetric difference of -Dark-Phantom- and Phantom_Hoover?
< 1446834940 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would that be -Dark--_Hoover?
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< 1446837287 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.refresh: points -9.19, score 13.38, rank 45/47
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< 1446839042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45119 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+3096) 10Under construction...
< 1446839723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brian & Chuck14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45120 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+4089) 10Created page with "'''Brian & Chuck''' is an esoteric programming language with two mutually modifying Brainfuck-like programs developed by [[user:Martin Büttner]]. The language was remotely in..."
< 1446839753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brian & Chuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45121&oldid=45120 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+0) 10
< 1446840018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brian & Chuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45122&oldid=45121 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+205) 10formatting and examples
< 1446840327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45123&oldid=45102 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+262) 10add Hexagony and Brian & Chuck
< 1446840454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Büttner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45124&oldid=44230 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+141) 10add Brian & Chuck
< 1446840507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45125&oldid=45083 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+20) 10/* B */ add Brian & Chuck
< 1446840533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45126&oldid=45125 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+16) 10/* M */
< 1446840796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45127&oldid=45119 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+550) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1446844009 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface  oooh
< 1446844222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the wine shop sign said they're selling "mouse wine", but it was just a very hastily drawn H.
< 1446844554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an awesome idea
< 1446844559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous While Loop
< 1446844638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = while()
< 1446844647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :start x {...}
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< 1446846498 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference to x = function() { ... }; while(x()) { ... }?
< 1446846611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well, you can call the same while loop repeatedly, and there could be some sort of function that modifies the while loop before calling
< 1446846611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :it
< 1446846661 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can do with an anonymous function
< 1446846734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You can, but this syntax is more eso.
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< 1446847290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :draft plan on where I'm considering to put extra letters on my keymap => http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/keymap.html
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< 1446847351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go find the problems with it
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< 1446847556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ^
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< 1446847758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45128&oldid=45127 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+1366) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1446848740 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
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< 1446849332 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that CSS should allow priority to be explicitly set for rules, and that user settings are allowed to set the maximum/minimum priorities for CSS from different sources, and then the normal CSS priority rules apply in case of conflict
< 1446849386 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So that user CSS has unlimited range of priority, while webpages have a limit)
< 1446849581 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it would help to allow to select based on rules and select a parent element containing a matched child; this is mainly helpful in user CSS)
< 1446849607 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :write to the consortium
< 1446849704 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446850567 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446850660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45129&oldid=45128 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+1142) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1446850920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45130&oldid=45129 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+99) 10
< 1446851318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45131&oldid=45130 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+258) 10/* Comments */
< 1446851639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45132&oldid=45131 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+137) 10
< 1446851880 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes hppavilion[1] with a felt-tip mapole

< 1446851894 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poke poke poke* *poke* *poke poke* *poke poke*
< 1446851925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45133&oldid=45132 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+162) 10/* Execution */
< 1446851941 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a soft mapole? sounds like an oxymoron
< 1446851947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hi boily
< 1446851948 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily
< 1446851959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department.
< 1446851974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You should create a page on Mapoles in your userspace. Or did I do that already in mine? If it's in mine, you should add more information to it
< 1446852004 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears that trigotillectomic is a made up boilyword
< 1446852033 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. I made that word?
< 1446852067 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: adding infos to the wiki is something I do, yes, but extremely rarely.
< 1446852111 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I get 4 hits on google, three of them are that wisdom entry, the fourth is one of your chickeny quit messages
< 1446852130 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat!
< 1446852164 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably one of my bests boilywords.
< 1446852207 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does remind me of trichotillomania though
< 1446852240 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trigotillectomic
< 1446852241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigotillectomic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446852245 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trigotillectomy
< 1446852246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigotillectomy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1446852569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm no, this won't work. control+caps-lock+a and control+caps-lock+e are also ahrd to press. I'll have to rethink this whole conception.
< 1446852673 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas. working on your layout?
< 1446852798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45134&oldid=45133 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+3508) 10/* Examples */
< 1446852829 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. Thinking of adding a `le/rn?
< 1446853532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45135 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+10318) 10Almost complete :D
< 1446853605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45136&oldid=45117 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-38) 10
< 1446853883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45137&oldid=45135 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-15) 10
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< 1446854467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh :/
< 1446854503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea while walking home
< 1446854624 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the idea?
< 1446854687 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily!
< 1446854719 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\!
< 1446854731 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on my phone!
< 1446854740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45138 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+238) 1032 bit machines
< 1446854759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: TOPL. Train-Oriented Programming Language.
< 1446854777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45139&oldid=45138 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+95) 10Signed
< 1446854814 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's slereah's schtick, to be on a phone.
< 1446854814 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446854822 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slereah
< 1446854823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1446854836 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I thought I had something phony about him...
< 1446854862 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what kind of train? diesel, electric, maglev?
< 1446854870 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's french, is that phony enough?
< 1446854871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Doesn't matter. Abstract trains, really.
< 1446854881 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hoily)
< 1446854889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a train fanatic, but suddenly I am in love with this idea
< 1446854905 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quasifrench. maybe téléphonesque?
< 1446854908 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hellœrjan)
< 1446854909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a declarative language that executes on a sort-of-directed graph
< 1446854919 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sshing to my computer
< 1446854930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe imperative. Somewhere in between)
< 1446854939 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semimperative.
< 1446854955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Basically
< 1446854957 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Wisdom PDF has “He's on a phone!” about Slereah.
< 1446854972 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/slereah
< 1446854974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1446854983 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to never have existed
< 1446855003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like Stare, where imperative instructions are executed upon declarative conditions
< 1446855017 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test
< 1446855018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `test': No such file or directory
< 1446855021 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you screenshot on android again?
< 1446855022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might also add Telegraph to it
< 1446855022 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits test
< 1446855024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Lyrissa mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ Hjulle oerjan oerjan elliott oerjan blotter blotter blotter oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Roujo oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan shachaf elliott FreeFull oer
< 1446855075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`test
< 1446855075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1446855076 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*lere*
< 1446855078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*lere*: No such file or directory
< 1446855079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test
< 1446855080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available.
< 1446855106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_mroman_mroman_mroman
< 1446855156 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hold down power and home at the same time. or volume down and power. or volume down and home.
< 1446855189 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Slereah est sur un téléphone
< 1446855192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'slereah': Slereah est sur un téléphone
< 1446855196 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blotter?
< 1446855231 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :En effet. D'ailleurs, parlant de Slereah, y'est rendu où?
< 1446855302 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ran that through GT and still doesn't know what boily is asking

< 1446855353 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Indeed. Moreover, speaking about Slereah, where is he?”
< 1446855373 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so bad. GT is improving!
< 1446855378 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh stupid tunes doesn't reload when i revisit the tab
< 1446855458 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: he used to be in france...
< 1446855488 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's on the network
< 1446855622 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I enjoy giving partial explanations <-- in the interest of discouraging partiality, why didn't you eat it yet twh
< 1446855658 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he might be asleep
< 1446855720 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/androidscreenshot.png
< 1446855823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, remove the last line of your homepage imho
< 1446855843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45140&oldid=45139 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+147) 10
< 1446855856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45141&oldid=45140 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-1) 10
< 1446855979 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why ?
< 1446855995 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb are you asleep?
< 1446855995 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446856001 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's pointless, who cares what you made your website to look good on
< 1446856018 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sorry i don't want to be an asshole about it
< 1446856035 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the rest of the page is fine and it's obvious what you were going for with the design
< 1446856073 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point if you can see the text then...
< 1446856125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45142&oldid=42222 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+435) 10/* Page removal request */ new section
< 1446856139 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you should add a gopher version of you website.
< 1446856265 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol sure why not
< 1446856324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45143&oldid=45142 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+254) 10Advised on question
< 1446856580 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a gopher server software with C in case you need it and/or want to make improvement of it
< 1446856601 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Wikipédia, gophers are: «... une famille de rongeurs appelés géomys, gaufres à poche, rats à poche...»
< 1446856620 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«gaufres à poche», also known as “pocketed waffles”.
< 1446856721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TOPL14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45144 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+554) 10Created Page, figuring out what I'm doing
< 1446856747 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I am not asleep, just a little distracted
< 1446856753 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I have eaten it now
< 1446856758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45145&oldid=45141 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+579) 10
< 1446856797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack10]]": Author request: content was: "'''DStack''' is a stack-based esoteric language created by [[User:-Dark-Phantom-|-Dark-Phantom-]] on November, 2015. The language uses two stacks, a..." (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/-Dark-Phantom-|-Dark-Phantom-]]")
< 1446856852 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446856933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45146&oldid=45143 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+218) 10/* Page removal request */
< 1446857282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45147&oldid=45146 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+288) 10/* Page removal request */ Done
< 1446857310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45148&oldid=45147 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10/* Page removal request */ indentation
< 1446857400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What weird things should I do with the EsOS?
< 1446857411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe an intercallian command line?
< 1446857415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like all of various new Magic: the Gathering cards that I have made up? There is even a few more recently.
< 1446857442 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OK, although you should need to describe such thing more specifically too
< 1446857458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Describe which thing?
< 1446857469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More specifically?
< 1446857494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hezzo38!
< 1446857534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such thing as EsOS and intercallian command line; if you make a document (even if just of ideas) then we can see the details of how such thing is working please.
< 1446857552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45149&oldid=45148 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+202) 10/* Page removal request */
< 1446857607 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I need to be up early...
< 1446857608 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight!
< 1446857616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, I will
< 1446857648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This EsOS is being made in Python, because there is /no/ way I was ever going to get it done in C or Rust
< 1446857652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's more of a meta-OS
< 1446857693 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1446857710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have the text renderer and the command line window thing :)
< 1446857751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I made my own text renderer instead of using Tkinter's create_text function such as to be more eso)
< 1446858385 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1446858586 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446858809 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oOo meta
< 1446858954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1446859248 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia!
< 1446859269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We go to /way/ too much effort for eshellos.
< 1446859281 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i posted a language
< 1446859291 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1446859309 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the quinthellopia is quintessential to salute quintopia.
< 1446859341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure.
< 1446859362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily is less essential, as it may be bon matily in the mornings
< 1446859399 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shoyld feedback CASTLE boily
< 1446859407 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is too behind
< 1446859420 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? eh? wut? CASTLE???
< 1446859421 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this damnable thing doesnt have page up so i have to prress esc[5~
< 1446859444 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid android
< 1446859544 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the wiki
< 1446859551 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes,page up is the same as esc[5~ idk why
< 1446859591 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh android
< 1446859620 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1446859625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Android not define page up key? That isn't very good.
< 1446859628 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I usually use -i for tab
< 1446859676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling the command line INTERCOM
< 1446859684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1446859686 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: noOo
< 1446859690 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keyboard im using dorsn't have page up it d have tab tho
< 1446859692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Why?
< 1446859702 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: please maybe don't give up
< 1446859711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh?
< 1446859721 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's valid INTERCAL
< 1446859727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446859730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1446859743 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: itym "excluded", but "disincluded" is very boilywordlike, so I approve.
< 1446859746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not actually that much like INTERCAL because I want it to be usable
< 1446859754 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do run my program
< 1446859761 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I'm on my computer now
< 1446859779 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do exec bash -c "echo hello world"
< 1446859782 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: its also a real word
< 1446859801 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is???
< 1446859822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yeah... not THAT intercallian. I'm just going to do weird command names to start with, work towards Eso nirvanna from there
< 1446859904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any suggestions for what I should do to make it Eso?
< 1446859906 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eso nirvanna? is there such a thing?
< 1446859918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Optimal esoness
< 1446859927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(satisfying certain properties)
< 1446859927 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I get it, eso nirvanna = hell
< 1446859935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ...
< 1446859936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure.
< 1446859947 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk
< 1446859952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's definitely what I meant.
< 1446859958 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: slang but popular
< 1446859981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about some stackiness?
< 1446859983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works
< 1446859987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stack it is.
< 1446860010 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it will be accepted in my lifetime, since it has different shades of meaning than exclude
< 1446860056 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esoptimal language is asymptotic.
< 1446860057 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just because we didnt include you doesnt mean we /excluded/ you"
< 1446860079 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen like that, disincluded has to exist.
< 1446860170 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :any comments on the language?
< 1446860719 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, it will no longer be disincluded from the dictionary
< 1446861028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a dream...
< 1446861112 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight boily
< 1446861120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of INTERCAL that I made up is stuff like:  MAYBE DO NOT COME FROM CHOICE
< 1446861162 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where CHOICE represents the choicepoint stack)
< 1446861171 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION *mind blown*

< 1446861235 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/NxC4sGpIDTw
< 1446861244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CHOICE is for back-tracking and LIFE is for front-tracking; I don't know how front-tracking is working though!)
< 1446861262 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne nuitopia!
< 1446861288 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia the language is quite nice! I got distracted by golly >_>'...
< 1446861288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446861301 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FIELD CHICKEN
< 1446861385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that sequence above me as "boily's last wish was to tell quintopia that the language is good, before he entered an irreversible spiral into the world of Golly, where he would meet his demise. Time of death: 16:55:00 on 2015-11-06."
< 1446861503 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little known fact that the game of life contains black holes that suck you in
< 1446861611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Convembuary is GoL awareness month
< 1446861633 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in the real projective plane, I knew that
< 1446861667 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a little known fact that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfram's_2-state_3-symbol_Turing_machine is the smallest universal Turing machine
< 1446861681 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: i knew that hth
< 1446861729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCOM's metaphors are all related to fishing for some reason
< 1446861751 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol
< 1446861775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have to redo it xD
< 1446861822 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: exercise: starting from that page, find ais523's middle name
< 1446861835 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know ais523's middle name
< 1446861861 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do *MWAHAHAHA*
< 1446861866 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1446861868 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446861870 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1446861881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais harold 523?
< 1446861885 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would be telling.
< 1446861896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His last name is 523, right?
< 1446861971 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually his last name is Smith hth
< 1446861985 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that should be enough of a hint)
< 1446862059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will?
< 1446862168 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth
< 1446862179 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exercise wasn't about guessing btw
< 1446862201 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but about digging out evidence.
< 1446862208 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hnqamxghpvgqzfgm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1446862623 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: found it: "I/O"
< 1446862635 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alex I/O Smith
< 1446862650 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I/O KAY
< 1446862695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1446862774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45150&oldid=45145 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+128) 10
< 1446862782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45151&oldid=45150 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+98) 10
< 1446863070 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it infinite?
< 1446863079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446863452 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, pretty short
< 1446863566 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ian?
< 1446863630 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently

< 1446863720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al?
< 1446863737 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to recall i said this was not about guessing.
< 1446863752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wasn't online when you said that
< 1446863756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I was
< 1446863766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read it though
< 1446864006 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?user=4464;list=wiki
< 1446864055 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wins

< 1446864061 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you do
< 1446864067 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in an unexpected way, too
< 1446864081 0 :getse!~canaima@201.248.19.110 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446864137 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1446864146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've backed myself into a corner here, I think
< 1446864163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only have commands with a single argument the way the data model works
< 1446864175 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm writing a language like that
< 1446864199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to fix it, how to fix it...
< 1446864222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to have advanced commands in the same vein as grep and such to be possible, but I don't know how
< 1446864233 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only two commands ! {  } and  ? {  }
< 1446864268 0 :getse!~canaima@201.248.19.110 PART #esoteric :
< 1446864316 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the way I solved it was to add parentheses
< 1446864338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't work for me though
< 1446864422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language's data model is fairly complex: An infinite array of deques, an accumulator stack, and a scalar intermediate accumulator through which all inbound and outbound data much cross
< 1446864430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/much/must/
< 1446864465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've backed myself into a corner by making it scalar. Now I don't know how to have multi-argument functions
< 1446864477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't see how to fix it by making it an array
< 1446864526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't make it a stack, because it has to hold data even when one uses data from it
< 1446864530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Have any ideas?
< 1446864531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck--14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45152&oldid=34258 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+110) 10
< 1446864616 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I prefer belts to stacks
< 1446864625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :belts?
< 1446864667 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :belts are stacks with a fixed size
< 1446864713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up, I'm just making it an array
< 1446864799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Have I told you about my 2D queue idea?
< 1446864803 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically all stacks are belts, but they're belts of length 100 MiB, whereas most belts are of length 16 or so
< 1446864818 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope
< 1446864824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cool, I think
< 1446864845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the data model of a 2Queue is a queue of queues
< 1446864883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you dequeue an element, you're really dequeuing a queue, dequeuing an element called "e" from that queue, reenqueuing that queue, then returning e.
< 1446864892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what its use is, but it's awesome
< 1446864978 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be used to break up a queue into a distributed queue
< 1446864993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Enqueuing is similar: Dequeue a queue, enqueue the element, enqueue the new queue)
< 1446865010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also have a Stack*Queue
< 1446865014 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the stuff that needs to be done vs. stuff that is going to be done by Host#101
< 1446865047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, a queue*stack, as data structure multiplication isn't communist)
< 1446865053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/communist/commutative)
< 1446865058 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1446865075 0 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :computing behind the iron curtain...
< 1446865463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1446867122 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know once when I told my brother that something was not commutative, he then asked, "But is it communist?"
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< 1446868029 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have now figured out how to do vertical discretionaries with prebreak texts and postbreak texts in TeX, although not how to do nonbreak texts.
< 1446868147 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, you can write "(continued on next page)" on the bottom of a page.)
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< 1446868562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should work on Kleinfunge
< 1446868970 0 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dare I ask?
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< 1446869066 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The clean subset of Grossfunge.
< 1446869374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nchambers: It's a fungeoid with mechanisms to manipulate topology
< 1446869399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in Klein bottle. Not Calvin Klein.
< 1446869658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kleinfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45153&oldid=44821 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+143) 10Stargates, why not?
< 1446869778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kleinfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45154&oldid=45153 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+248) 10Utility
< 1446869793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nchambers: Although...
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< 1446870433 0 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1446871033 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol I have a file that says it was created today, 10 minutes ago, and modified in 2008
< 1446871216 0 :^v^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446871425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How did THAT happen?
< 1446871439 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copied an old file to my desktop
< 1446871560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45155&oldid=45137 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+31) 10link to GitHub
< 1446872140 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1446872204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:CakeProphet14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45156 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+175) 10EsOS
< 1446872307 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the spacing of the output of the "wc" command different when the input is redirected from a file as it is when redirected from a pipe?
< 1446872874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45157&oldid=45155 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+115) 10categories
< 1446872962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45158&oldid=45126 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+13) 10/* D */ DStack
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< 1446873808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45159&oldid=45123 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+102) 10DStack
< 1446874374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45160&oldid=44349 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+37) 10DStack
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< 1446877042 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know why?
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< 1446878444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CASTLE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45161&oldid=45116 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+1421) 10Made explicit the (random) way marked cells behave under symmetries. Added prefix to prevent marked cell permutation.
< 1446879771 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc  HTML and some CSS
< 1446897864 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slide 12 wtf
< 1446897870 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how anything of this works
< 1446897954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean .... it's just skipping over details to get to the interesting parts.
< 1446897969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a class name in there, and a field name, and the field type...
< 1446897979 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean
< 1446897984 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't save a "isAdmin=1" on the client
< 1446898001 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in a cookie, not in a base64 encoded cookie, not in a base64 encoded serialized java object
< 1446898018 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why the exploits later on generally do something more interesting.
< 1446898032 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really a Java-Expert
< 1446898040 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case I'm sure this has happened.
< 1446898043 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd say readObject shouldn't really trigger much else
< 1446898060 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There were a lot of php webapps that did set isAdmin cookies, yes.
< 1446898075 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because at a glance, serialized objects look inscrutable, so nobody is going to bother modifying those... right ;)
< 1446898113 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, you need to ship the fucking application, deadlines are more important than basic security.
< 1446898143 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can always fix that later)
< 1446898158 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) ;-> :-P <-- sprinkle those above as needed.
< 1446898186 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know damn well that deadlines are more important than anything else
< 1446898189 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadlines give money
< 1446898192 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :security not.
< 1446898219 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've released two unfinished products as "finished" :D
< 1446898237 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets interesting when you use DSLs with no clear client/server separation in the source code.
< 1446898355 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I work in IT Security
< 1446898360 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the worst part about that :)
< 1446898361 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well...
< 1446898370 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end you need money to pay the developers salaries.
< 1446898514 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Documentation looks fine, but I'm not a big fan of the asymmetric boxes (with the top border thicker than the bottom border), and I would probably try to separate the commands more visibly (is it possible to indent the descriptions of the individual commands?)
< 1446898596 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1446898785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I came from http://foxglovesecurity.com/2015/11/06/what-do-weblogic-websphere-jboss-jenkins-opennms-and-your-application-have-in-common-this-vulnerability/ which also seems worth reading.
< 1446899030 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on if pandoc generates 
 or something
< 1446899038 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I could indent h1 p or something
< 1446899067 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. that won't work :(
< 1446899112 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could indent pre elements?
< 1446899130 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's what you meant?
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< 1446900915 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When Java reads in a serialized object, the first thing it does after reading in the raw bytes is call the user-defined “readObject” method if it exists."
< 1446900920 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice
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< 1446901337 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that way you can do some custom things
< 1446901350 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like custom serialization formats and the like
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< 1446901826 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you could do good things with that, like *validation* to protect against malicious modification ;)
< 1446901875 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but of course it may be too late for that at that point)
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< 1446908621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45162&oldid=43674 5* 03InputUsername 5* (-60) 10Removed dead link
< 1446908987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Langar.io14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45163&oldid=43655 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+104) 10
< 1446909449 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so... anybody has an opinion about that GI thing? <-- coool hth
< 1446909482 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ...
< 1446909508 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still 3 days to find out what it actually _is_
< 1446909550 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up, get a polymath project to strengthen it to polynomial twh
< 1446909584 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with enormous luck, i might understand the proof?)
< 1446909743 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's GI-complete, anyway?
< 1446909874 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's an ambiguous question, please clarify
< 1446909939 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is too tired to think again, and the neighbors are wearing high heels or something

< 1446910147 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_isomorphism_problem#GI-complete_and_GI-hard_problems GI-complete seems to mainly consist of other variants of GI.
< 1446910510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SuperJedi22414]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45164&oldid=44288 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+16) 10
< 1446910567 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what GI thing?
< 1446910587 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm assuming it's graph isomorphism, but what's new about them?)
< 1446910637 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an announcement of a presentation of a proof that it's solvable in quasi-polynomial time
< 1446910645 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in 3 days)
< 1446910673 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2521
< 1446910675 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, sounds exciting indeed
< 1446911591 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't edwardk around
< 1446911649 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell edwardk It seems like I and András Kovács almost simultaneously got the same idea to fix your Data.Constraint.Forall.
< 1446911649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1446912720 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i finally get sucked into getting a github account.
< 1446912840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: based on yesterday's events he is probably asleep right now hth
< 1446912865 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened then
< 1446912880 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh verification email is slow
< 1446913431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CASTLE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45165&oldid=45161 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+987) 10conditional transitions
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< 1446914245 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gastro-Intestinal-Complete?
< 1446914319 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A machine is GI-complete if it has the same computing power as the gut bacteria of a healthy mammal."
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< 1446914836 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude
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< 1446915372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45166&oldid=45157 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+18) 10Category:2015
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< 1446916435 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O (sofuto kaihatsu jogakuen)

< 1446916883 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\
< 1446916900 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, what oerjan says
< 1446916939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I have a preliminary plan about how to extend my keyboard layout, adding more letters, but now I have doubts about it
< 1446916952 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/keymap
< 1446916968 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: perhaps you want to comment
< 1446917059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should add a very few punctuation signs, namely × and °
< 1446917243 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may wish to have a shift for greek letters. (I just shift into jp and then　アルファ ⇒ α)
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< 1446917409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't think I ever type greek letters
< 1446917447 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\alpha \beta \gamma \delta...
< 1446917485 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arufa be-ta ganma  deruta
< 1446917532 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ganma? really?
< 1446917549 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1446917557 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446917557 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :がんま
< 1446917604 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramuda -> ラムダ -> λ
< 1446917611 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, those are easy. how do you write theta and phi?
< 1446917647 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :テータ　ファイ
< 1446917657 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :te-ta fai
< 1446917663 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do they say "mega" of omega in greek or Japanese?)
< 1446917703 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's omega in japanese
< 1446917711 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't used that one
< 1446917730 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I thought you knew the complete set
< 1446917756 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I ha to look up lambda, I had only used a few of them
< 1446917767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446917771 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it would be lamubuda
< 1446917789 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ramubuda
< 1446917826 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, la -> small a
< 1446917847 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9B
< 1446917871 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sidebar has all of them
< 1446917902 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1446918024 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese IME's can also type weird things like enu -> Н
< 1446918028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, and the table https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A2%E6%96%87%E5%AD%97#.E6.96.87.E5.AD.97 gives multiple names
< 1446918042 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cyrillic en
< 1446918065 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it i9s
< 1446918074 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it looks like a H
< 1446918096 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basicaly, if it exists in the JIS encoding, an IME can type it
< 1446918234 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jis includes greek and cyrillic, but in JIS they are treated as unusual kanji (double width)
< 1446918319 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :α has the reading: あるふぁ
< 1446918395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and do you also have a way to find out how to type any such characters in an IME?
< 1446918411 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1446918504 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but typically you can find it by copypasting into the search box of japanese wikiedia
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< 1446919546 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh cool
< 1446919571 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :andraskovacs found a workaround for the bug
< 1446919982 0 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446920162 0 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1446920397 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Constraint.Forall might be repaired
< 1446920551 0 :mauris_!?@? NICK :mauris
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< 1446921422 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's not the same bug then
< 1446921442 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen ais523 these days?
< 1446921450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he hasn't been in for a week
< 1446921480 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (14/22.0)*400
< 1446921482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 254.54545454545453
< 1446921485 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright
< 1446921503 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that estimate the Burlesque documentation will span 254 pages
< 1446921553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446921554 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oops
< 1446921565 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1446921582 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nickserv agrees
< 1446922162 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[1]!
< 1446922289 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Latèr
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< 1446923587 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446923900 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446924601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heeo\ren\
< 1446924643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He\\oren\ looks better, actually
< 1446924769 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he always backslashed?
< 1446924834 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1446924838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: to look different from the other two o-guys who are frequently here
< 1446924849 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought as much
< 1446924864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is awfully channel-centric
< 1446924877 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like #esoteric is actually important or something
< 1446924937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: indeed, I generally don't choose nicknames for just one channel, and when I do, I rather log in with a separate connection for just that channel, temporarily, rather than change my main nick
< 1446925012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Who's the other o-?
< 1446925038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is one, but who's the third?
< 1446925053 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, maybe oerjan is the only one, plus the olist
< 1446925260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: olsner! That's the other one
< 1446925334 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3919
< 1446926223 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away*
< 1446926616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Poop14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45167&oldid=39419 5* 0393.198.139.110 5* (+502) 10Added "poopOut"
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< 1446927096 0 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1446927977 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446929011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: don't forget okplopol
< 1446929017 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oklopoop
< 1446929332 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call them just "ok-star", it's easier that way.
< 1446929642 0 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1446932751 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:2915:7d35:4414:bc09 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1446933135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font now supports the Germanic alphabet (minus e with umlaut, which someone says is used but is not listed on Wiki, as well as a capital sharp S because of rare usage) and the Norwegian is in progress
< 1446933158 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446933269 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what font? where?
< 1446933285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The one for WalrusOS, which is the first WalrusOS
< 1446933292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the first EsOS
< 1446933302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By far not the first WalrusOS)
< 1446933305 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um… sure? and?
< 1446933313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And what?
< 1446933315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can I see a sample for this font?
< 1446933382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have an imgur post somewhere that has an old version that supported I think the full english alphabet, at least lowercase
< 1446933396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like to see that, or should I take a new screenshot and upload it for you?
< 1446933426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a new screenshot
< 1446933443 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I should make samples for my font too)
< 1446933445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OR you could download the software; It's not a font you can use normally, you need to use the custom renderer. I thought it'd be more fun and easier for me that way)
< 1446933453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Screenshotting
< 1446933553 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446933614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://i.imgur.com/VqGxJfz.png
< 1446933711 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: thanks
< 1446933771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome
< 1446933795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is this a monospaced font? is it scalable? how is it described? I mean the way TTF fonts are glyph outlines made of quadratic Bézier curves plus some hinting, and kerning tables.
< 1446933825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's described in a command prompt-like vector language encoded into JSON. It's vector.
< 1446933838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is monospace, though some characters are twice as wide as the standard
< 1446933838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1446933860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normal characters are 14*28; lowercase only takes up half height.
< 1446933873 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks a bit strange, but some of that might be deliberate
< 1446933881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I realized a bit after finishing the lowercase english alphabet I should've done 16*32)
< 1446933889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What looks strange?
< 1446933901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's for the EsOS, so that's good, but I'm curious
< 1446933945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the letters have a strangely varying height and depth. "s" is too deep and maybe also too high, "m" is less high than others,
< 1446933956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, s I'm going to fix
< 1446933982 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "@" is small and has a strange shape, the "&" has a somewhat strange shape, 
< 1446933987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The m is actually the same height in the code, iirc, it just looks strange because the humps are so thin
< 1446934005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The @ had to be small for monospace and the & is INCREDIBLY difficult
< 1446934022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm encoding this in a vector language by hand, remember)
< 1446934032 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "6" doesn't look high enough, the "5" has a shape that I don't really like, namely where the vertical part and the arc meets it goes too low, and as a result the arc is too closed and too small.
< 1446934040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed that on the 6 and the 5
< 1446934060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good enough. I mean, it's legible at least xD
< 1446934068 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the "@" could still be taller, even in monospaced, and the part where the small a meets the curvy part looks wrong
< 1446934073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right
< 1446934114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's as close as I plan to make it for now; I'm having a friend make a good font for actual printing in the OS
< 1446934122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just the font for CLI and such
< 1446934145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the "æ" looks wrong, it's too wide and looks too much like an "œ" because it uses a one-storeyed "a" instead of a two-storeyed one,
< 1446934165 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "Æ" also looks too wide to me, 
< 1446934184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as you are probably reading more Norwegian than me, you might know better how those should look.
< 1446934210 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the "^" is placed somewhat low, though that could be deliberate
< 1446934241 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "'" is a bit small
< 1446934249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "\"" is a bit small too
< 1446934263 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in general, it does look nice and somewhat readable
< 1446934278 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the "W" is too narrow, so perhaps you could make the sides more vertical
< 1446934299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The ae and AE are both too wide
< 1446934308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made them doublespace so they're legible
< 1446934347 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see!
< 1446934351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :double side
< 1446934357 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's strange
< 1446934364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that in a font that's otherwise monospaced?
< 1446934381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Legibility; the command prompt is english, so it won't particluarly matter
< 1446934391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, characters like that are never used in ASCII art
< 1446934399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no real reason to squish them
< 1446934405 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446934423 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have a renderer (terminal) that handles a grid of characters but allows double-width?
< 1446934425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I made ae use a double-story a it would look bad against the a (which is single-story)
< 1446934435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically
< 1446934440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though now that I think about it
< 1446934445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't look right
< 1446934460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I could make a AND ae double-story
< 1446934523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But double-story a is hard in my current vector format
< 1446934549 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wait
< 1446934554 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something seems wrong
< 1446934571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I only have "line", "circle", "ellipse", "arc", and "ellarc", plus a special-purpose command for the squares on line 6)
< 1446934572 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks as if the "Æ" is narrower than two character cells,
< 1446934576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the characters after
< 1446934585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It isn't, I assure you
< 1446934592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PROBLEM is the kerning
< 1446934600 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's an eso-os there shouldn't be a problem making the widths of characters nonstandard
< 1446934611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a 5-pixel (or maybe 10-pixel) space between characters
< 1446934632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So really, doublespace should be 33 instead of 28
< 1446934638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, so that's the problem
< 1446934645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they're not really double width
< 1446934649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't form a grid
< 1446934650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix it later
< 1446934658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will not, not until I fix that
< 1446934671 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, I think the "7" doesn't reach the floor
< 1446934694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It does. It might just be pixels lost at this resolution in rendering
< 1446934705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It definitely goes down to y=0 conceptually
< 1446934733 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? huh.
< 1446934735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok
< 1446934779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the Germanic and Norwegian alphabets. What characters should I do next?
< 1446934785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and the same applies to the right leg of "A" ?
< 1446934788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Combining diacritics aren't working)
< 1446934789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you should do the "}"
< 1446934796 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we already have the "font of wisdom" in our topic?
< 1446934818 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also the "ø" and the "å"
< 1446934821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I SHOULD, but I'm putting that one off because { was a huge pain in the ass
< 1446934831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Already finished those after screenshotting
< 1446934840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "The font of all knowledge" ... close enough.
< 1446934844 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you adapt the code for the { reversing it?
< 1446934847 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: even if "{" was a huge pain, can't you just mirror it and shift it properly for "}" ?
< 1446934883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but I would have to do math in my head, and I don't have an automirror program yet (though I could certainly write one)
< 1446934898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, there's more pixel inaccuracy problems: the "P" has a gap
< 1446934916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How closely are you analyzing the font!?
< 1446934924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix that if I can see it on my end
< 1446934926 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: add a mirror capability. it will be useful for sprites in the game anyway
< 1446934937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprites in what game?
< 1446934946 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector graphics are a pain, that's why my font is dont using pixels
< 1446934953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: analyzing => (a) #esoteric , (b) I did it with zzo too
< 1446934955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. P certainly has a gap
< 1446934966 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/zzo/oren/
< 1446934990 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, I think maybe you should slant the "/" and "\" more, and perhaps add a gap into "|" so it's more distinct
< 1446935017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I do not like the gapped |
< 1446935019 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you already have a "0" with a dot in the middle, so a "|" with a gap wouldn't look mismatched
< 1446935025 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446935039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually was thinking about the 0 with a dot when I was making it
< 1446935047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Should I used the dotted or slashed 0?"
< 1446935048 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is it deliberate that the "." and the ":" are shifted to the left so much?
< 1446935048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"..."
< 1446935055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What an incredibly boring issue"
< 1446935055 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a separate uncidoe charatcer for gapped |?
< 1446935058 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and definitely make the "'" and "\"" bigger
< 1446935076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I put them in the middle because it felt right at the time
< 1446935078 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes there is, it's in iso-8859-1, ¦
< 1446935087 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446935088 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they're not in the middle
< 1446935089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool
< 1446935099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're close.
< 1446935114 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "." and the ":" are very close to the left edge
< 1446935118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're definitely not in the middel
< 1446935132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: So they aren't shifted to the right?
< 1446935138 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see, the . is in the middle of the character, but there is a gap between characters
< 1446935139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could've sworn they were...
< 1446935146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right
< 1446935157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the ":" reaches more to the left than the left vertical side of the "P"
< 1446935298 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh, and check the "-" and the "=" and the ":" to verify they're not too high when they're among lower-case letters
< 1446935337 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446935339 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Should I just make "/" and "\\" span the corners?
< 1446935341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and maybe lower the bar of the "A" but that's not such a big problem
< 1446935363 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure, the "/" and "\\" vary a lot between fonts, it's a matter of style
< 1446935373 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446935376 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mostly what works for you
< 1446935379 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they vary in height too
< 1446935386 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make / and \ have a gap for the eso factor, but not | xD
< 1446935401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... the "\" can have a gap, but the "/" shouldn't
< 1446935428 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be weird, wouldn't it? xD
< 1446935444 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's "÷" and "∕" and "⟌" when you want strange slashes
< 1446935450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1446935459 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the third one?
< 1446935465 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⟌
< 1446935478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+27CC LONG DIVISION]
< 1446935483 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446935483 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that stuff crazy Americans use for "teaching" long division in elementary school
< 1446935494 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. That actually worked for me
< 1446935505 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked long division; I found it fun
< 1446935514 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an early manifestation of my appreciation for algorithms
< 1446935555 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1446935564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go
< 1446935569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel better now
< 1446935598 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with this font, and the rest
< 1446935603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1446935668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was effectively conversation termination, correct?)
< 1446935719 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, I'm still here for a bit, but I don't have any more comment on the font for now
< 1446935751 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, conversation termination, but not goodbye
< 1446935762 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's such a thing
< 1446935792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1446935818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm definitely raising the ^
< 1446935932 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, oren's font has lots of characters, so I could criticize stuff like the appearance of the letters with caron and the comma under
< 1446935986 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me,
< 1446936018 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are you planning to go through the first two grades of kyōiku kanji and add them all?
< 1446936093 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually
< 1446936097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1446936117 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the vertical long vowel sign and those strange repeat marks first :-)
< 1446936135 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1446936210 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, hurray for Saturday!
< 1446936215 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not for long anymore)
< 1446936222 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy it while it lasts if you're in such a timezone
< 1446936239 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only 5:45 in canada
< 1446936254 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, in Toronto, anyway.
< 1446936275 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for like 8 million canadians anyway
< 1446936372 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, and already Sunday for a billion Asians
< 1446936650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME WARP
< 1446936658 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been very fireworksy hereabouts.
< 1446936727 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't ︱ the vertical long vowel sign?
< 1446936736 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ︱
< 1446936737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FE31 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL EM DASH]
< 1446936741 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1446936864 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446938128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3871
< 1446938371 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1446938414 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446938600 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446939005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloerjan
< 1446939112 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I am not the other one, oerjan is
< 1446939131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Is that a joke?
< 1446939148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It /must/ be
< 1446939191 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1446939276 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oklopol is probably the original o)
< 1446939313 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and actually oerjan starts with an ø, so not even an o
< 1446939317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're the "other one" from MY POV, because oerjan is on more often than you are when I'm on.
< 1446939326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But his screen name is oerjan.
< 1446939352 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a typographical workaround
< 1446939383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't IRC /support/ unicode now?
< 1446939402 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446939741 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilhion
< 1446939777 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not in nicks
< 1446939790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1446939807 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snzooxdisjqxayal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446939814 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i've had this nick for decades, so i'm not going to stop using it.  i just used it to register on github...
< 1446939856 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i'm using Ørjan in at least one place (yafgc comment sections)
< 1446939860 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is easier to type than ørjan anyway
< 1446939872 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my full name on stackoverflow
< 1446939916 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a flaw in the new Data.Constraint.Forall construction too :( but i think it's repairable.
< 1446940140 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øjvind.
< 1446940230 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an Øjvind (or maybe an Öjvind; you see both) as the name of a fictitious person in a math assignment.
< 1446940281 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was probably Öjvind, because they were the last in something or another (I've forgotten the plot), and Ö comes in last in the Finnish alphabet; Ø we don't have.
< 1446940296 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ö KAY
< 1446940392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen at the office: https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAX2xhYVpha0w2QUk
< 1446940399 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding the topic, is there a left channel?
< 1446940412 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are we monophonic
< 1446940449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The data model for my default shell in WalrusOS allows me to define commands like DROP and DUP
< 1446940451 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only channel in a monophonic thing is more commonly the left rather than the right channel, but who knows.
< 1446940455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the deques
< 1446940516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DROP is SAVE POP RETRIEVE and DUP is SAVE POP PUSH PUSH RETRIEVE
< 1446940542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUP could, in theory, have an "r" flag that tells it how many times to dup if I were to add FOR loops
< 1446940555 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com
< 1446940558 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you remove the right channel, only the wrong ones are left
< 1446940606 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1446940674 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you subtract the left and right channels, sometimes all the vocals are gone.
< 1446940695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45168&oldid=45166 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+547) 10My first quine
< 1446940782 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, that sometimes happens with broken headphones
< 1446940827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45169&oldid=42623 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+546) 10DStack
< 1446940843 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will go to bed now
< 1446940878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fizzie was referring to the fact that vocals are often recorded "center stage"
< 1446940894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas instruments may be placed more freely
< 1446940913 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "face the music", hmm, where does that phrase come from )
< 1446941119 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't help. "The precise allusion in this expression has been lost."
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< 1446941574 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh treeowl _is_ dfeuer
< 1446941617 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, exactly. if the headphone break in such a way that the left and ground are shorted, the left side will be silent and the right will have a watery sound without any vocals
< 1446941740 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes you'll hear the left as the same as the right due to the ground being driven in the opposite of the right
< 1446941919 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem is that those hedphone plugs are a stupid design that shorts easily
< 1446942061 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thy should have used a three-pin  D-Sub
< 1446942139 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, only oerjan's evil twin starts with an ø, oerjan himself doesn't
< 1446942336 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but then people would have to worry about orientation when pluggin the headphones in...
< 1446942411 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the headphone plugs for hysterical raisins, to be compatible with mono headphones; plus they also have like four different variants, for different ways to transmit the microphone and button data for mobile phone headsets, of which three are non-Apple?
< 1446942426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, headphones break easily
< 1446942536 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1446942539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth/Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!!
< 1446942542 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you use headphones?
< 1446942542 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: does anyone know the technical details of the lhc in swiss fnord? how much dollars or euros is that? fnord ( user fnord)
< 1446942555 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'nite
< 1446942570 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, funny. I believe I have only had one of those plugs break on me so far... it ended up breaking the loudspeaker circuit permanently instead of only when phones were plugged in.
< 1446942589 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, s/plug/socket/
< 1446942685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken headphones otoh are just part of life... heh
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< 1446942884 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@223.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a while since I've been here
< 1446943097 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think it's pretty expensive, I don't think we could afford it.
< 1446943097 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but, if he is really admin on here it says 1985 and on imdb it has both a navy/ mc aircraft were redesignated according to the interview with fnord fnord
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< 1446944468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:-Dark-Phantom-14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45170&oldid=45136 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+129) 10a little more information
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< 1446948490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45171&oldid=45069 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+48) 10
< 1446948570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45172&oldid=45171 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-2) 10/* Example programs */
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< 1446949164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45173&oldid=45172 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-2) 10/* Example programs */
< 1446949200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45174&oldid=45173 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-1) 10/* Example programs */
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< 1446949975 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In CLC-INTERCAL there is SWAP command to change the meaning of commands; I thought of if such thing could be done with Magic: the Gathering such as if one card swap "protection from" with "bands with other", or swap "scry" with "fateseal", or swap "rampage" with "absorb", or something else.
< 1446950108 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45175&oldid=45060 5* 03101.187.120.107 5* (+116) 10/* External resources */
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< 1446950784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45176&oldid=45174 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10/* Factorial (13 bytes) */
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< 1446951673 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ☃
< 1446951676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2603 SNOWMAN \ UTF-8: e2 98 83  UTF-16BE: 2603  Decimal: ☃ \ ☃ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
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< 1446953831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45177&oldid=45026 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+129) 10/* Instructions */
< 1446954143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45178&oldid=45177 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+122) 10
< 1446954152 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45179&oldid=45178 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1) 10
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< 1446954313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45180&oldid=45179 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+8) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1446956269 0 :variable!?@? NICK :constant
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< 1446956459 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they would ever make a new version of "Bargain" card as an instant then it would be much better than a sorcery.
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< 1446957224 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIS_X_0213#/media/File:JIS_X_0213_2000-2004.gif <- augh
< 1446957586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my command prompt working!
< 1446957587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1446957593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No file manipulation yet though
< 1446959151 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow katakana words are sometimes more inscruatble than kanji words. "maruchibaito" -> "multibyte" took me almost a whole minute to figure out
< 1446959188 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/inscruatble/inscrutable/
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< 1446959945 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 〄
< 1446959947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+3004 JAPANESE INDUSTRIAL STANDARD SYMBOL \ UTF-8: e3 80 84  UTF-16BE: 3004  Decimal: 〄 \ 〄 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
< 1446960074 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how you are supposed to figure out filename of GF/PK fonts when the resolution of the printer does not use square dots?
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< 1446962045 0 :nchambers!?@? NICK :dtscode
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< 1446964926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I fixed the s
< 1446964947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now it's about 2 pixels too short, by the looks of it
< 1446965837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45181&oldid=40873 5* 03173.51.108.216 5* (+16) 10
< 1446966415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER-DEFINED COMMAND FILES WORK!
< 1446966824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/P8PMfSC.png
< 1446967397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text renderer gets pretty slow though
< 1446967462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to change the way it works for efficiency purposes, make it so I only have to rerender the current command every time a character is pressed.
< 1446969928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. It's now ~1000000000000% more efficient now that it doesn't have to render every line of text every time
< 1446969957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it still has to render the last line each time it gets printed. Maybe I should fix it so only the last letter is affected, as that's the only one you can influence
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< 1446973618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I had one headphone plug of which a metalic part was broken off and stuck in the headphone socket of a then expensive electronic device, so that we couldn't use either the headphone output or the builtin speaker of that device, because it thought a headphone was plugged in.
< 1446973732 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pretty aweful
< 1446973774 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually after some months, we got it out, but it needed a dentist's special tool.
< 1446973807 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have electric engineer's tools accessible, those weren't enough. 
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< 1446977121 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I partially made up a "TVMIDI" specification in an attempt to make up a specification to allow a TV cable box to be controlled by MIDI.
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< 1446977694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... do you mean like playing on an electric pipe organ to change channels?
< 1446978001 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it could, although that isn't the intention. MIDI CC 0 and 32 are used to change channels (although note events may be used like pushing buttons on a remote control, so if your organ has enough range then it may be possible to do this)
< 1446978129 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIDI CC 64 is used to control the OSD. If all bits are set, then the OSD is fully suppressed and only the TV show can be displayed.
< 1446978218 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry, the pipe organ thing just put an image to my head
< 1446978278 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like the organ used to control… something… in MLP FIM S4 E03)
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< 1446980616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45182 5* 0393.198.147.238 5* (+2811) 10Created page with "pointer-ng is an extended version of [[Brainfuck]] by [http://twitter.com/fucketh1cs Maximilian Krause (aka fucketh1cs)] who also wrote an interpreter for it. pointer-ng is a ..."
< 1446982053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Runespells14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45183 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+133) 10Created page with "What, exactly, does Ni do? ~~~~"
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< 1446983059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DL14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45184 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+150) 10Created page with "The website seems to have been compromised. ~~~~"
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< 1446983562 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ la la la ♪ scrozzling OSes with unstable usb keeeeys la la la ♪
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< 1446985033 0 :aom!~aom@193.194.82.178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
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< 1446985807 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sqlite3 :memory: 'SELECT 3+8;'
< 1446985809 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11
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< 1446985869 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sqlite3 :memory: $'SELECT\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b||\na||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba\nFROM(SELECT''''a,','b,'a'aa,'b'bb,'SELECT\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b||\na||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba\nFROM(SELECT'ab,');'ba);\n'
< 1446985870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `SELECT'ab,'' \ bash: -c: line 0: `sqlite3 :memory: $'SELECT\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b||\na||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba\nFROM(SELECT''''a,','b,'a'aa,'b'bb,'SELECT\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a|
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< 1446985914 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sqlite3 :memory: $'SELECT\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b||\na||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba\n'"FROM(SELECT''''a,','b,'a'aa,'b'bb,'SELECT"$'\nab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b||\na||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b||\na||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba\nFROM('"SELECT'ab,');'ba);"$'\n'
< 1446985915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELECT \ ab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b|| \ a||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b|| \ a||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba \ FROM(SELECT''''a,','b,'a'aa,'b'bb,'SELECT \ ab||a||a||a||a||aa||b||a||b||a||bb||b|| \ a||aa||a||aa||aa||b||a||bb||a||bb||bb||b|| \ a||ab||a||aa||bb||b||a||ba||a||bb||aa||ba \ FROM(SELECT'ab,');'ba);
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< 1446985938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sqlite3 :memory: "SELECT replace(s,char(33),'''')||s||'''s);'FROM(SELECT'SELECT
< 1446985938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
< 1446985941 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1446985991 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sqli
< 1446985992 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sqli: not found
< 1446985997 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec sqlite3 :memory: "$@"' > bin/sqli && chmod a+x bin/sqli
< 1446986000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1446986005 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sqli SELECT 3+8;
< 1446986005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11
< 1446986016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sqli SELECT replace(s,char(33),'''')||s||'''s);'FROM(SELECT'SELECT replace(s,char(33),!!!!)||s||!!!s);!FROM(SELECT!'s);
< 1446986016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: no such function: char
< 1446986022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :old version?
< 1446986031 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sqli SELECT sqlite_version();
< 1446986032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.7.13
< 1446986035 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, old
< 1446986092 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, install SQLite 3.9.2 to HackEgo please
< 1446986093 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: besides all the disputes that have been investigated. user:jb3 sup -(user talk:jb3)/sup 10:22, 26 march 2006 ( utc) user:keith binneykeith binney ( user talk:keith binneytalk) 06:15, 15 july 2006 ( utc
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< 1446986601 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Get rid of those signatures in this model, please.
< 1446986601 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this book sucks
< 1446986643 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's a bit harsh, and Wikipedia talk pages aren't really even a book.
< 1446986644 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: continuous learning management is a fnord which is available through the usa link. user:83d40m83d40m 22:58, 17 june 2008 ( utc)/small!-- template:unsignedip !--autosigned by sinebot-- ( nevermind, it's under gang of four ( disambiguation)" is the best example of an organization and its activities, not present arguments about the beliefs the organization promotes. those arguments may be entirely true, as the
< 1446986820 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1446986820 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube
< 1446986836 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is there a cosinebot?
< 1446986837 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: can we request fnord for this term. there are no objections in a week or two, and either they have made substantial incursions into parts of georgia that have nothing to do with the development and building of horse transports for use in the carolinas. in much of the dispute was added by" user:raskolnikov the penguinraskolnikov the penguin ( user talk:raskolnikov the penguintalk • special:contributions/ ra
< 1446986860 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be a bad idea to learn from discussion pages...
< 1446986983 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: chicken?
< 1446986984 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just how much of it crufty and unsupported opinion. almost every sentence can be challenged. take for example the " paris and its closest departments" with " variation", discussing common descent and major evolutionary developments ( and, maybe, but i think
< 1446986996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The thinking was, they'd be more conversational than the actual articles.
< 1446987005 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't put very much effort into cleaning things up.
< 1446987686 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any independent sources to back up the claim that they're more conversational? Jafet (talk) 12:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
< 1446987741 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't count; its speech clearly betrays a close association with the website under discussion
< 1446987742 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i'm fine with the switch back to " worms series" or " worms computer games".
< 1446988088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it was original research.
< 1446988095 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I like you.
< 1446988095 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: surely this can't be literally true. in truth, india is just as good a place for debate or for arguing the toss. the presence of fnord saved his life.
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< 1446988103 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH
< 1446988103 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( undent) i'm fine with merging the two articles are equally referenced. since when?. dont you think there could be another reason:
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< 1446993282 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Z4b6WTwBrU/Vfy9WVv__oI/AAAAAAAAp1k/1jA3uW8PGG0/s400/arguingonline.gif
< 1446993458 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fkjvzs-9u3209ag4vsrkn   ... I'll stick to the old-fashioned technique, even though it's slower.
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< 1446999269 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kyrpä.
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< 1447003464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45185&oldid=45182 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+8) 10
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< 1447007171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45186&oldid=45185 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10
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< 1447008256 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switzerland just extended false pretence protection to cosmetics.
< 1447008259 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat.
< 1447008289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1447008289 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube
< 1447008325 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd opt for stricter false pretence rules for ads anyways.
< 1447008358 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it's just mass deception.
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< 1447008767 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook doesn't honor do not track 
< 1447008769 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a surprise
< 1447008776 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this would actually be a solvable issue :)
< 1447008778 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think.
< 1447008804 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser generated session cookies or something like that
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< 1447008877 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the website sends a session token to the browser once, and the browser just resends that single token everytime a request is made
< 1447008881 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for third-party requests
< 1447008889 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :token won't be sent for third-party requests.
< 1447008894 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45187&oldid=45186 5* 0393.198.147.238 5* (-1) 10fixed some formatting in commands
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< 1447008968 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woulndn't really stop them from tracking you
< 1447008993 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it may stop them from tracking you through third-party sites
< 1447009011 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have a static ip
< 1447009017 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're screwed either way
< 1447009031 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ISPs could solve that problem
< 1447009039 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by having a pool of random temporary IP addresses
< 1447009047 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do address translations
< 1447009058 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which randomizes every request
< 1447009084 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the technology for having way better privacy is available.
< 1447009094 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not in place :D
< 1447009098 0 :nortti!?@? NICK :perkele
< 1447009111 0 :perkele!?@? NICK :nortti
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< 1447012248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45188&oldid=45187 5* 0393.198.147.238 5* (+29) 10/* Interpreters */
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< 1447014347 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45189&oldid=45180 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+18) 10
< 1447014421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45190&oldid=45176 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+18) 10
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< 1447015527 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Since Varsity has told us that fascination with Jellybabies is a "fetish", and we want to keep Nomicam a clean family game: The speaker shall once and once only go through the rules, changing every mention of the word "jelly baby" - in whatever grammatical form - into the word "sheep" - in the corresponding grammatical form.'
< 1447015569 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just googled that, and besides the nomic itself, the other hits are logs from this channel, one with me quoting exactly that over a year ago.
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< 1447018802 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I thought jellybabies are a candy?
< 1447018888 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so too, it's the fascination with them that's a fetish
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< 1447020102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45191&oldid=45189 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+59) 10
< 1447020127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45192&oldid=45190 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+56) 10
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< 1447023641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone active?
< 1447023740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1447023928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh :(
< 1447023953 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to design my default filesys with the builtin DUP and ROLL and such commands
< 1447024324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not builtin so much as file-defined
< 1447024470 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that working?
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< 1447024771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Es1024 5*  10New user account
< 1447024900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Marbelous14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45195&oldid=43737 5* 03Es1024 5* (+1) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1447025513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TeaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45196&oldid=45030 5* 03Vihan 5* (+117) 10/* Removing periods */
< 1447025580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TeaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45197&oldid=45196 5* 03Vihan 5* (-114) 10/* 1-byte Special Characters */
< 1447025594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TeaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45198&oldid=45197 5* 03Vihan 5* (-58) 10/* Compilers / Interpreters */
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< 1447027039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call the inverse of DROP on a deque?
< 1447027055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I choose you!
< 1447027121 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORD hth
< 1447027136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No really xD
< 1447027144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447027145 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this should teach you to be more careful with your choices)
< 1447027146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine
< 1447027155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It IS an Esoshell, so...
> 1447085492 744227 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447085585 770231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, HackEgo has been very responsible
< 1447085609 840639 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honestly not sure why glogbot didn't pop back up on its own... the system was up...
< 1447085761 533872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was getting into this strange ritual of copying tunes logs into vim to reformat them
< 1447085817 122878 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry it's all my fault :'(
< 1447085829 605279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all forgiven
< 1447085834 571941 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/185/  i'm having problems with the repeated parts
< 1447085966 454311 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447086021 805341 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea? :\
< 1447086038 426781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it says in point 1 that you have _all_ shifts
< 1447086075 318925 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447086081 659368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably is enough to make it solvable
< 1447086238 106630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the n-1 first letters and the n-1 last letters aren't identical, then it's obviously not
< 1447086262 208746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because then you get a loop that can start anywhere)
< 1447086324 606681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, here's how to find the first n-1 letters: it's the unique combination which occurs once more as the first n-1 chars in a piece than it does as the last n-1 chars.
< 1447086342 861123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly for last n-1.
< 1447086354 332534 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's all good
< 1447086360 403074 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you deal with the repeated parts?
< 1447086396 763903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
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< 1447086477 53887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are any that are repeated 3 or more times, you cannot.
< 1447086497 933397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the part in between is also identical, i guess.
< 1447086534 453691 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you have to... I mean they promise you that the solution will be unique
< 1447086537 618004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 123abc456abc789abc0  must become ambiguous
< 1447086553 692903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with length 3)
< 1447086607 636852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually isn't this basically a hamiltonian path problem.
< 1447086633 206301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1447086641 207838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each piece is a node, each possible next piece gives an edge
< 1447086670 893370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess we can hope for a very sparse parse with lots of nodes having degree 2
< 1447086671 995405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1447086679 558285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...sparse graph...
< 1447086680 973587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each piece is an _edge_
< 1447086706 821230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hmm, it's a directed hamiltonian path problem
< 1447086710 524873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and it suddenly becomes a eulerian path problem
< 1447086717 611300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, directed
< 1447086717 759914 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least that's how I would view it)
< 1447086766 608614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :directed eulerian path sounds easier than hamiltonian, anyway
< 1447086824 286118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the nodes in your graph where each piece is an edge? 
< 1447086824 906643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the graph can have multiedges
< 1447086853 472910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: n-1 length substrings
< 1447086871 454945 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in my graph, the pieces are the nodes, and there's an edge between pieces that can be successive shifts.
< 1447086881 479742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, that was easier.
< 1447086886 339306 :sacadouche!~sacadouch@cpc22-bour5-2-0-cust86.15-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving...
< 1447086905 296938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess both make sense.
< 1447086925 518219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oerjan wrote that differently above... hmm)
< 1447086942 253293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's an obvious encoding anyway
< 1447086945 383180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i meant the same thing
< 1447086969 810268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my point is that eulerian path problem is polynomial, while hamiltonian is NP-complete
< 1447086975 113412 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I meant you phrased it differently, not that it was different.
< 1447086992 627187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's undirected, not sure with directed
< 1447087005 982825 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the eularian path
< 1447087039 942812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? when the pieces are edges, and you visit each piece once
< 1447087063 445068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1447087101 781212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION missed a step there

< 1447087199 895556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many nodes with only two edges does help, you can collapse them
< 1447087359 356598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then only the repeating n-1 strings will be left
< 1447087369 339087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, this looks plausible: there is a directed eularian circuit if a graph is strongly connected, and the indegree and outdegree of each node are equal. (without the strong connectedness, you can decompose it into circles, and by the connectedness you can glue them together into a single one)
< 1447087392 929811 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eularian paths follow)
< 1447087442 130844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um we cannot have circuits in this problem
< 1447087453 977723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they obviously give non-unique solutions.
< 1447087465 354967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (eularian paths follow) ... we identify the two odd nodes and connect them by an artificial edge
< 1447087466 550336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although - we could add an edge from the beginning to the end
< 1447087480 755224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we doing that thing again.
< 1447087485 169661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1447087505 441825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er end to beginning
< 1447087518 397959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is that artificial edge
< 1447087531 17144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that the eularian circuit case is nicer to characterize and reason about
< 1447087540 641342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite so
< 1447087560 334113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we need a uniqueness requirement.
< 1447087600 441236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :constraints: "There is only one correct answer for each test case."
< 1447087603 240876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also his name was Euler not Eular hth
< 1447087628 158812 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was his last name
< 1447087635 988981 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should know.
< 1447087681 697225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the "rian" is just too difficult to get right
< 1447087715 156130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is rationalizing... at least that part of the brain still works :P

< 1447087726 675580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the step i'm unsure of is how to decompose into circles
< 1447087734 651569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's good; it's the most important part for staying sane)
< 1447087735 875710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45226&oldid=45188 5* 0393.198.137.24 5* (+35) 10Updated download to official interpreter
< 1447087763 761029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you just pick an edge and follow a path until you end up at the starting point... remove that circle, repeat
< 1447087798 766830 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was doing that

< 1447087801 22930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you're right, because you still have ingoing = outgoing
< 1447087842 525159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, amazingly, it's even easier than the usual parity argument for undirected graphs.
< 1447087850 604550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1447087885 901682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so then it might be the gluing together...
< 1447087903 439846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, too, should be simple
< 1447087904 207628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trivial exercise: prove that in any eulerian graph, one can orient the edges such that indegree = outdegree for all vertices)
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< 1447087944 104998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ok so once you have decomposed it into circles, just join them in an arbitrary way
< 1447087957 914145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll end up with a large one
< 1447087979 744268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by the problem statement, it must be unique once you identify the starting/ending
< 1447087988 203123 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447088003 706835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unique in what string it gives, anyway
< 1447088172 133292 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447088236 61428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: make a dictionary of all n-1 size subpieces and their in/out pieces.
< 1447088260 569277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :find the two unique ones that don't have the same number of in/out.
< 1447088276 815654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was step 2)
< 1447088302 307123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 3: find a path, just by following edges, from the initial to the final subpiece.
< 1447088317 898543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(adjust the dictionary to remove the edges used)
< 1447088325 324676 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447088362 508931 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :another problem
< 1447088369 94741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 4: while there are edges remaining in the dictionary, pick a subpiece in the dictionary that is also in the string constructed so far.
< 1447088375 595893 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i identify the edge?
< 1447088382 634205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :expand the string by a new path from that subpiece to itself.
< 1447088397 994813 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me explain
< 1447088398 220945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: an edge is the same as a piece, here
< 1447088404 306698 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean
< 1447088407 972082 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know that
< 1447088419 637722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they must be counted with multiplicity.
< 1447088420 995025 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the start/end of the cicle
< 1447088432 942843 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :edge in that sense
< 1447088442 343316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i told you how to identify the start/end n-1 subpieces
< 1447088455 624688 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but
< 1447088459 118767 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that example
< 1447088461 363458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the edges will just fall into place when you complete the algorithm, i think
< 1447088485 937188 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The evil plan to hack CodeEval ranking." this is the first one i remove
< 1447088517 165587 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that, i'm left with "il-ev" "l-evi" "evil-" "-evil" "vil-e"
< 1447088529 727269 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i thought i could start from il-ev
< 1447088555 165619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: no, you must choose a subpiece that is in the string so far.  only vil fits, i think.
< 1447088555 489563 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i try to build a new cycle from that, i can join all those pieces to il-evil-ev
< 1447088568 568305 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1447088570 643763 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1447088574 137688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, evil
< 1447088935 49167 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447088946 779904 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447089867 447031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07RegexPL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45227&oldid=45223 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-13) 10Fix template call (only named parameters may contain =)
< 1447089903 539181 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447090249 27797 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i end up with a piece that doesn't fit in the original cycle?
< 1447090272 729400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Template:Wayback14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45228&oldid=30812 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+188) 10Explain how to use =
< 1447090276 659416 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i have the first cycle, then i find a new one, will it extend the first one?
< 1447090348 639958 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1447090369 586748 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can always find a cycle that extends the first one
< 1447090373 792582 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds correct
< 1447090436 547548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah because the graph is connected
< 1447090464 140831 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447090747 162042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45229&oldid=45226 5* 0393.198.137.24 5* (+209) 10Added one more example
< 1447090766 603875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pointer-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45230&oldid=45229 5* 0393.198.137.24 5* (+6) 10/* Example Code */
< 1447090906 729189 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447090924 106013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Weloxux 5*  10New user account
< 1447091053 792315 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447091349 202900 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447091605 242235 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447091610 834505 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey.
< 1447091618 636286 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name's Alek.
< 1447091632 282138 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If ANY OF YOU ARE ALIVE, Please Tell Me.
< 1447091637 90013 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mostly alive
< 1447091642 572741 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good.
< 1447091679 847623 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not
< 1447091704 218624 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a zombie
< 1447091706 171258 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that count?
< 1447091729 483447 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it depends on which kind of spell was used to summon you
< 1447091734 11531 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmzxwnfnpcobzqmm QUIT :Quit: .
< 1447091736 820729 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay...
< 1447091754 752659 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still
< 1447091775 824339 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: u alive?
< 1447091776 155530 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: " sometimes known as crew". really? i've never seen a such bad situation in his screenplay but also included a scene from the " s", they were lower in social position than the arabs and berbers, and were fnord it around! odd! fnord 15:09, 12 aug 2004 ( utc)
< 1447091817 427355 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC SPAM?!
< 1447091828 369516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbelievable
< 1447091845 832097 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. Was Too Long.
< 1447091868 106069 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to dye my hair pink
< 1447091878 20124 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447091878 458253 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pink like the girl from lazy town
< 1447091879 251008 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: sounds good
< 1447091883 90919 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Well.
< 1447091884 750323 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye.
< 1447091885 902220 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like pastel pink
< 1447091886 696563 :Guest78999!41310ea5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.49.14.165 PART :#esoteric
< 1447091915 657158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please explain Guest78999
< 1447091915 844664 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ' ' the new york times mainly uses kiev. the times style guide http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol/ fnord/ fnord fnord
< 1447091930 801284 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that made more sense than the actual person
< 1447091934 420065 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1447091957 334647 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it always quote fnord?
< 1447091964 575838 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a fnord mode or something?
< 1447091988 241331 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember correctly, "fnord" is a placeholder for rare words that didn't make it into the language model's dictionary
< 1447092019 340096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure how fizzie deals with actual occurrences of "fnord")
< 1447092096 626934 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/L249tM/raw  ok i submitted this and it scores a whopping 5%
< 1447092104 646701 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'm doing something wrong
< 1447092108 592135 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what <.<
< 1447092152 522030 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it solves their example and all the ones i came up with >.>
< 1447092215 14582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 20 tests, 5% is just what you'd expect if it solves _only_ that example, right :P
< 1447092241 832858 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you show an example that fails?
< 1447092242 262944 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the input format there...
< 1447092251 61826 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's  |piece|piece|piece|
< 1447092297 265115 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :|a|a| doesn't work, for example
< 1447092344 272090 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's valid input <.<
< 1447092374 67327 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it is but still
< 1447092393 1540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty degenerate
< 1447092395 21220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "The minimum length of a piece of text is 8"
< 1447092395 937331 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh
< 1447092400 993883 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
< 1447092413 401957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: are you really making a cycle initially?
< 1447092417 694222 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes?
< 1447092423 34481 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so?
< 1447092434 598922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you deal with the initial and final pieces
< 1447092473 700296 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start with the first piece in that list, try to extend it as much as i can, and call what i get a cycle
< 1447092515 258085 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial and final pieces should be part of that first cycle
< 1447092530 387736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how you can get the initial piece
< 1447092540 404613 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not?
< 1447092553 260949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hm, are you going in both directions
< 1447092556 253343 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447092563 153307 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the first cycle i am
< 1447092566 573941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1447092576 477492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a "path", not a cycle, anyway :P
< 1447092586 675926 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447092594 145601 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it bails out at the first error
< 1447092604 469729 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it solves the first one, then gets an error
< 1447092606 799807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hunch: what happens if your test includes strange chars that bash might have trouble with?
< 1447092610 46411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. ')
< 1447092611 191692 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it could potentially solve more than 1
< 1447092620 589236 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem with any character
< 1447092631 237335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1447092667 126045 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll change the exit to a break and resubmit, let me see how bad it is
< 1447092694 828171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: um how are you reading the input, it's supposed to come from a file given on the command line
< 1447092716 962764 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1447092717 455540 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :while loop in line 41
< 1447092736 724016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't notice the < "$1" at the end
< 1447092776 632053 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, now it timeouts
< 1447093033 945200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1447093037 52615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1447093519 955250 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you start with substrings of length 2 of a^40b^40...y^40, then it does take a while to reconstruct the string
< 1447093559 194108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's still true if you change the piece length to 8
< 1447093585 953366 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 28
< 1447093629 297948 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("a while" meaning several seconds: about 5 here)
< 1447093793 441512 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(concrete input: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/something)
< 1447093813 138901 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god int-e wtf is that
< 1447093845 913770 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well, try your bash script on it... burn a bit of CPU.
< 1447093959 4288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this is within the parameters: pieces of length 28, and there's 973 of them)
< 1447094055 262725 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the file also produces unintended but interesting visual effects at various line break lengths, fun...
< 1447094237 885596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/something.png
< 1447094479 381659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have not tried to figure out why it's slow; note that the order that the pieces are given in matters... so this may be far from the worst case)
< 1447094525 16356 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447094675 699387 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447095155 243534 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447095289 410554 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just times out even if my code is fine
< 1447095291 752962 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1447095338 412291 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447095382 919001 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual input i managed to get from the site, + solution produced by my code   http://arin.ga/3eZ8kV/raw
< 1447095416 590261 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447095430 121410 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447095518 382949 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447096611 134067 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't mroman here
< 1447096969 344283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The png looks FAST.
< 1447097024 965399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just, you know, æsthetically.
< 1447097103 779923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447097183 211379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbbbt
< 1447097233 86145 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Give me an upboat: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/62732/implement-a-truth-machine/63402#63402
< 1447097233 234811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447097254 414926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh wow it does
< 1447097299 246144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning!
< 1447097449 863325 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where in england is "not" pronounced like "naught"? is it like the whole country or something?
< 1447097463 487661 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't
< 1447097469 30798 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not the whole country
< 1447097476 184213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
< 1447097478 593749 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, english pronunciation i a knotty business
< 1447097487 314460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a naughty one too
< 1447097515 47393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :naught / not / knot  was indeed my inspiration
< 1447097558 322914 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know it's said that way in brighton... the kooks guy does it
< 1447097601 609859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the U.S., e.g. Cali, the vowel shift moves in the other direction
< 1447097640 472136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. the "cot" side of the cot/caught merger)
< 1447097680 655149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure england is an esolang
< 1447097823 650445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how 'compiler language with no pronounceable acronym' has a perfectly pronouncable acryonym in welsh
< 1447097953 260037 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda like cloonpa, right?
< 1447097968 459999 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would by CLYNPA
< 1447097972 11153 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe?
< 1447097977 603741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Welsh phonetics
< 1447098213 38224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. it was a strange day today. 
< 1447098218 2003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking it up, I think it'd be cloonpa
< 1447098225 970131 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what happened?
< 1447098253 373704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: work stuff. complicated meeting where we actually talked about lots of relevant stuff, even if we didn't quite see eye to eye.
< 1447098267 49120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we definitely couldn't solve everything, but at least know more about what each of us thinks should be solved.
< 1447098297 977764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically, I waited for the meeting because some people were busy so it had to be delayed and then delayed again,
< 1447098310 410742 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then participated on the complicated meeting and asked stupid questions and took notes,
< 1447098323 161485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then wrote a memo which was difficult because it was a long meeting with lots of things said,
< 1447098338 571259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still had to be done so that later people can't claim they don't remember what happened on the meeting,
< 1447098355 553569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the middle of this I did lots of other small things that had to be done.
< 1447098415 429654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, with changes in how some procedures are done at the job, which are for the better in the long term, but cause a little hitch when we change to it, and people don't always know what's happening and say contradictory things.
< 1447098583 273081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I wrote a FizzBuzz that calls C (indirectly) from Agda
< 1447098640 193960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: great!
< 1447098973 636766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45231&oldid=45168 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-219) 10New instructions, string literals and improved examples
< 1447099007 661912 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, https://github.com/Taneb/AgdaCBuzz
< 1447099042 822448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build instructions are non-existent, but it's cabal install ==> compile the agda file
< 1447099539 633512 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy with my command prompt design :)
< 1447099544 596281 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion1
< 1447099548 885146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45232&oldid=45159 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-60) 10/* DStack */
< 1447099577 279751 :hppavilion1!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1447099583 729982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45233&oldid=45169 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-439) 10/* DStack */
< 1447099584 676507 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go
< 1447099615 980216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45234&oldid=45160 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (-10) 10/* DStack */
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< 1447104285 285781 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ais523 still hasn't returned?
< 1447104285 472625 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fnord/ court/ state/ fnord. -user:splashsplashsmallsupuser talk:splashtalk/sup/small 00:24, 26 january 2007 ( utc))
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< 1447104973 118662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SPLEMIT2114]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45235 5* 0393.198.137.24 5* (+1090) 10Created page with "SPLEMIT21 ''(short for Shortest Programming Language Ever Made In The 21st [Century])'' is a joke language developed by [http://twitter.com/fucketh1cs Maximilian Krause aka fu..."
< 1447105074 501665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45236&oldid=45233 5* 0393.198.137.24 5* (+24) 10/* Cheating Quines */  SPLEMIT21
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< 1447105854 227807 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you say 'the omega+1-st step' ?
< 1447105893 708167 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 'the omega+1-th step' ?
< 1447105954 481794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: "the step of index omega plus one", or "on the day omega plus one"
< 1447105975 905782 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh, you mean which of "st" or "th" suffix you use? probably "st" because English is crazy
< 1447105984 744095 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that
< 1447106151 90905 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess + changes the normal rules
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< 1447106582 657272 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now have an editor made solely for manipulating the default filesystem for my OS
< 1447106668 215220 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fs editor?
< 1447106686 192533 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do?
< 1447106749 250023 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It allows me to manipulate files outside of the OS for convenience
< 1447106769 250967 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No way to create a new file though, at least not yet
< 1447106878 977739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: can it grow the size of an existing file?
< 1447106907 793248 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I believe so; I mean, no reason it wouldn't be able to
< 1447106938 110959 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using python for this (so it's not a "real" OS), meaning that I don't have arbitrary limitations like I would in C or the like
< 1447107011 465806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: finding where the bytes of the file are located by reading the metadata is easy. you have to know more about the fs than that if you also want to modify the metadata to allocate space for growing the file and associating that space with the file.
< 1447107058 449610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know where the bytes are stored, you can modify them directly, that much is easy. 
< 1447107078 28973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may depend on the details of file system, sure, but still
< 1447107139 984039 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm storing the FS in JSON xD
< 1447107160 200087 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's saved to disk as a ".fsys" file (windows) that is really just a subset of JSON
< 1447107202 245593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds strange for a filesystem, but ok
< 1447107222 565406 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean that that's how it's stored when the OS is closed, so that you can go back to it later
< 1447107266 129471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your fs allow storing arbitrary byte sequences as file content? if so, how do you encode that to json?
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< 1447107335 565123 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes it does; the file data is just a string.
< 1447107356 41837 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL files are like that, if you're willing to abuse ASCII
< 1447107414 521474 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't seek if you have to decode json
< 1447107444 757773 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ?
< 1447107451 308427 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seek as in...?
< 1447107461 316106 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "go to byte 12345 in this file"
< 1447107494 981495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: the input of JSON encoding is a deep structure that contains character strings, and the output is a character string (often encoded as UTF-8, which is recommended for JSON).
< 1447107529 209600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: if you want to store binary strings, you have to somehow encode them to character strings, or else you won't know what backslash escapes to use for characters that you can't represent literally.
< 1447107540 396932 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Ah. I can do that, because I decode it to Python Dicts on loading. I think that works.
< 1447107560 41300 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I used the json module, which seems to handle everything like that for me xD
< 1447107570 324420 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing this the cheaty way
< 1447107606 265905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so basically you don't know what your code does. ok.
< 1447107624 69468 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work.
< 1447107645 450659 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's how programming works xD
< 1447107676 699264 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't so much "Not know what my code does" as "Using external services and tools to do the heavy lifting, which I need not understand because they're complicated"
< 1447107689 988334 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But they work, so it's OK"
< 1447107698 18906 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And they're open-source, so it's doubly-OK"
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< 1447108691 957331 :sacadouche!~sacadouch@cpc22-bour5-2-0-cust86.15-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :list
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< 1447108946 402660 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome
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< 1447108954 507591 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome sacadouche 
< 1447108958 289242 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww come on
< 1447108959 927468 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacadouche: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1447108960 76000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1447108970 338747 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i lag or HackEgo did?
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< 1447109023 115687 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you did
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< 1447109051 109892 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1447109174 854574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Esoteric Operating System14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45237&oldid=43607 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+129) 10/* Making one */ new section
< 1447109184 584025 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1447109321 644011 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like someone to define a command-line shell inspired by BF (because it's like the crowning esolang, despite its flaws (namely, the derivatives)). I can implement it.
< 1447109328 142360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite now includes an extension to read/write JSON (although I also have my own extension to read JSON data with SQLite; my own doesn't write though)
< 1447109463 316330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I wouldn't know how to define such a thing (as I cannot think of it right now), although if I do I will tell you; but probably you or someone else to figure it out.
< 1447109606 565812 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making the shape of the FileSys a digraph.
< 1447109666 758035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to make it a graph then you might use RDF though, rather than JSON
< 1447109777 196683 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well it's a digraph, which is fairly easy to represent with JSON
< 1447109840 404552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a HYPERgraph would be more Eso...
< 1447109869 334528 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think about a hypergraph filesys?
< 1447109949 970955 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe later. Don't know yet how to make that work
< 1447109966 230316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either, but if you do know how to make it work, go ahead and try please!
< 1447110072 230148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You certainly can represent a digraph with JSON, although I think RDF would work better for this purpose. For a hypergraph you will need to do something more (it can also be represented with RDF easily enough, I expect)
< 1447110119 328279 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447110154 851085 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you used json because objects form a tree-like structure
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< 1447110219 479700 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how a generic graph is easy to represent with json
< 1447110226 768760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON is good for tree-like structure yes
< 1447110395 999738 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when a YAML parser parses a mutually recursive structure?
< 1447110411 655379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> :edges [:v _:v1, _:v2, _:v3], [:v _:v2, _:v3], [:v _:v3, _:v5, _:v6], [:v _:v4]. # It is one possible way you may represent a hypergraph in RDF; you could even have more than one that shares nodes in this way
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< 1447110467 943479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1447110468 92124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 40m 34s ago: Give me an upboat: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/62732/implement-a-truth-machine/63402#63402
< 1447110532 614258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia the upboat was gladly given! :D
< 1447110532 762752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447110547 827568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement a pooch machine
< 1447110569 694781 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. pooch?
< 1447110591 309976 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia heh, nice usage of "-ai".
< 1447110591 458736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447110631 626511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pooch
< 1447110669 15072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: apparently it means cabot hth
< 1447110726 524784 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, un cabot!
< 1447110748 794616 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh.
< 1447110774 521615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: its the fastest way to subtract large nums
< 1447110788 626789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://i.imgur.com/9n3q5pV.gifv
< 1447110870 529386 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PURE UNDILUTED WIZZARDRY!
< 1447110897 548723 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is diluted wizardry like?
< 1447110918 460632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- i guess you need some kind of faster dictionary that allows you to quickly find the neighboring nodes and edges
< 1447110921 463799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1447110926 181473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so it just times out even if my code is fine <-- i guess you need some kind of faster dictionary that allows you to quickly find the neighboring nodes and edges
< 1447110952 617481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if bash has anything
< 1447110956 989518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does
< 1447110960 391520 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :associative arrays
< 1447110975 731688 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to improve it but then i started playing online <.<
< 1447110979 112343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The JSON1 extension of SQLite does not include aggregate functions.
< 1447111031 934496 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Fentimans.
< 1447111052 216628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you didnt vote :(
< 1447111101 807633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes I did, but because I just created an account it's not publicly visible :(
< 1447111121 929648 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need 15 reputations for it to become public.)
< 1447111128 715035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you can vote immediately?
< 1447111169 705226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can, and I get a nice small informative blue popup telling me I need to build more reputations.
< 1447111190 526572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't know it actually _saved_ your vote?
< 1447111197 964440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to ignoring it
< 1447111246 206412 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the feedback! Once you earn a total of 15 reputation, your votes will change the publicly displayed post score.
< 1447111258 21489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i didn't try voting in that short timespan
< 1447111272 784396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably didn't even register properly
< 1447111278 198036 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1447111304 374819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh
< 1447111309 495427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is too disreputable to vote?
< 1447111326 580935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall i waited about a year before i turned my loginless account into a proper one, and only because the cookie expired so it was the only way to get it back
< 1447111369 625242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw if you have enough rep on another SE account you can get 100 free by linking them
< 1447111382 229353 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeesh...
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< 1447111760 30289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeesh
< 1447111761 103928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447111787 275286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only place i know yeeeeesh from is the Mutts comic
< 1447111793 890889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yesh
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< 1447113654 57657 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447113782 673777 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447113993 303773 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447113995 406762 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got the digraphic filesys working
< 1447114001 122650 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1447114043 805789 :sacadouche!~sacadouch@cpc22-bour5-2-0-cust86.15-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447114065 193929 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do?
< 1447114355 796245 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh
< 1447114356 770924 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447114423 974296 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I have it filled out.
< 1447114426 198969 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeesh
< 1447114427 253616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeesh.
< 1447114495 643074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeesh
< 1447114496 676095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeesh.
< 1447114502 961225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeesh
< 1447114504 864945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeesh.
< 1447114509 444578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh
< 1447114510 460418 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447114524 449402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
< 1447114536 24680 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
< 1447114537 94231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447114542 81814 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1447114562 524918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this download feels ridiculously slow
< 1447114577 254209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well it's 3/4 through, anyway
< 1447114611 583123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is downloading the GitHub desktop

< 1447114670 546828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447114703 835485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to fix the constraints library
< 1447115017 942201 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's reaction there reminds me of something my #esoteric neural net once spit out.
< 1447115023 753481 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat abbreviated:
< 1447115033 598361 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland"
< 1447115252 496683 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodland?
< 1447115472 938221 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nopoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland.
< 1447115534 784987 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⎕
< 1447115535 847119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2395 APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL QUAD]
< 1447115592 91140 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when I see one of those rectangles, that's actually the correct rendering of the character.
< 1447115623 916342 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda like a broken watch that's right twice a day
< 1447115736 734014 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, fuck ///.
< 1447116852 243632 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :🞎 🞎 🞎 🞎
< 1447116980 843209 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fuck whoever invented it. (Please!)
< 1447116982 849335 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION coughs.

< 1447116992 757616 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't just say any such thing.
< 1447117024 738157 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswello
< 1447117244 722416 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu
< 1447117518 297120 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god Jar Jar is the real phantom menace
< 1447117560 773401 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesh
< 1447117851 18668 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxbzmbaykwmgsdid JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447117988 649045 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching it now for the first time?
< 1447118048 868637 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you referring to that theory that claims that jar jar was supposed to be the ultimate evil boss?
< 1447118222 333841 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is jar jar that weird alien dude
< 1447118236 785287 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says "meesa"
< 1447118258 82436 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1447118850 699355 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm refering to the theory. It's amazing.
< 1447119634 355835 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447119726 82854 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447119941 45517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, I didn't just say any such thing. <-- it's ok, everyone except Taneb understands.
< 1447120078 899773 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language where infinite looping is accomplished through ellipses: put a ... and let the computer figure out the pattern
< 1447120080 199948 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447120178 815903 :_leaf_!~kdjh@wpis-64-140-219-90.worldpath.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447120525 887974 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: For numbers, it'll just consult oeis. :P
< 1447120548 612525 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: xD
< 1447121008 812990 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers\dead
< 1447121566 53610 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447121712 846561 :andrew_!~andrew@183.54.14.178 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447121895 490093 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447122139 944302 :andrew_!~andrew@183.54.14.178 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447122168 380463 :andrew_!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447122519 343628 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447122550 554387 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447122761 846014 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45238&oldid=45194 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-11178) 10
< 1447122817 83485 :andrew__!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447122841 847931 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1447123638 824091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think of Bands with Other?
< 1447123757 951424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it, it can be a good ability in the correct circumstances (it depends what it bands with and what other creatures you have)
< 1447123775 106632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want them to reprint bands with other
< 1447123958 639542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of cards would you want involving that ability?
< 1447123977 500724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i bands with other "bands with other" creatures
< 1447124802 460246 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447125063 837623 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1447125544 576463 :DarkPhantom!be67ca7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.103.202.125 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447125624 62381 :DarkPhantom!be67ca7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.103.202.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps DarkPhantom around a bit with a large fishbot

< 1447126185 94331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bot that runs fish?
< 1447126606 26859 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/s f/s on f/
< 1447126851 893948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i was thinking when i wrote that sentence
< 1447126928 93066 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So either it's powered by fish or it stomps of poor, defenseless fish... your choice.
< 1447126933 924319 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/on/
< 1447126966 687939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, i'm expecting a fishbot to be a bot implemented in ><>
< 1447126993 605336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is one possibility yes, although there are others, such as "bands with other Walls" or "bands with other white creatures" or "bands with other tokens" or whatever.
< 1447127010 547507 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447127090 365590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ordinary banding is another abililty that can be used; which is better depends on circumstances.)
< 1447127165 750007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is bands with other better than ordinary banding?
< 1447127188 79370 :DarkPhantom!be67ca7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.103.202.125 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1447127189 690154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the old rules it never was but it is fixed now.
< 1447127201 326891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone please give me some clue as to what it is mr. black is referring to?
< 1447127338 532177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if you have "bands with other Walls" then it can band with any number of other Walls (whether or not they have banding), but with ordinary banding you can band with only one other creature that does not have banding ability (although any number with banding).
< 1447127483 621902 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447127565 859915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules say 'one or more attacking [quality] creatures with "bands with other [quality]" and any number of other attacking [quality] creatures' although I think 'one attacking creature with "bands with other [quality]" and any number of other attacking [quality] creatures' may make more sense; it would usually come out to the same thing anyways.
< 1447127691 184760 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this MtG stuff?
< 1447127705 784335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1447127709 667363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1447127933 248233 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447128490 354336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh rjan
< 1447128513 552828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:07  [constraints] oerjan opened pull request #13: Implement type family based Data.Constraint.Forall (master...ForallTF) http://git.io/v8KUi
< 1447129051 35221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would prefer a rule like this to declare bands:  You must select one attacking creature as the "primary" creature of the band (it doesn't matter whether or not it has any banding ability), and then you may optionally select a "bands with other" ability that the primary creature has. If you did select such an ability, all non-primary creatures in the band must have the specified quality. If you did not select such an ability, all non-primary creatu
< 1447129135 254525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This means that ordinarily each creature would be in a band by itself.)
< 1447129176 496774 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1447129242 466638 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447129342 301383 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :StringFuck perhaps? That'd qualify as an original BF derivative...
< 1447129434 931173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example: You have six creatures. "A", "B", "C" are Human and have "bands with other Goblins", while "D", "E" and "F" are Goblin and have no special abilities. Under existing rules no bands can be declared. Under my suggested rules, {A,D,E} is a valid band but {A,B,F} is not valid.
< 1447129514 412168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Under the old rules, I think {A,B,C} would be a legal band but {A,D,E} and {A,B,F} are both invalid. Under both current rules and my suggested rules, {A,B,C} is invalid.)
< 1447129719 652654 :_leaf_!~kdjh@wpis-64-140-219-90.worldpath.net QUIT :
< 1447129889 987650 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEW ESOSHELL IDEA
< 1447129894 516926 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getch()Shell
< 1447129920 577089 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shell where every keystroke matters; every time you hit a key things get done. No backsies. 
< 1447129968 36204 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shell golfing eh
< 1447130013 650006 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: More like every keypress does something AS IT HAPPENS
< 1447130031 322096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of the typical waiting-until-the-user-hits-enter bullshit we have now. Efficiency!
< 1447130032 241843 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447130041 223203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but
< 1447130052 319780 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means people compose their commands in a separate app
< 1447130054 843634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and paste them in
< 1447130063 878260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means they'll be golfing them probably
< 1447130067 356368 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Control counts as a keypress
< 1447130075 200404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so does v
< 1447130085 758078 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two SEPARATE keypresses
< 1447130091 838268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses ctrl+v to paste to a terminal?
< 1447130094 502322 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1447130101 226336 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no pasting via right click
< 1447130106 506133 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Menu or direct)
< 1447130121 462140 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or drag and drop
< 1447130150 810734 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like the worst shell ever made
< 1447130166 923444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, only pasting by keystroke pasting would be the possible one
< 1447130167 364765 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For leniency, every keypress puts a new state on the belt, and backspace pops a state and reverts to it (but your mistake stays in the shell0
< 1447130184 394988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's an esoshell. So... yeah.
< 1447130214 423207 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^s/0/)/
< 1447130235 608093 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: since when is eso synonymous with "making things needlessly hard"?
< 1447130256 64211 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It isn't synonymous, but that's how it works. Also, this is like the Malebolge of esoshells
< 1447130264 681047 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Malbolge
< 1447130303 28017 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't meant to be needlessly hard though; it's just meant to be different
< 1447130309 943029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves at shachaf 

< 1447130327 944805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are free to make it like that if it is how you want to do, of course. Anyways, "not synonymous" does not necessarily imply "excludes".
< 1447130330 930318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, why did it have to be #13
< 1447130343 66733 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Exactly.
< 1447130353 6708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why did what have to be #13 of what?
< 1447130353 155608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :synonymous = =.
< 1447130415 611542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You said "so...yeah." as if it were obvious that such a shell should block off every possible way of interacting that isn't the intended one.
< 1447130430 323169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I call it Getchell?
< 1447130434 316169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if you were shooting for "needlessly hard"
< 1447130449 286847 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fair enough.
< 1447130461 656055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you'd said malbolgeshell instead of esoshell i would have gotten it from the start
< 1447130463 194240 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aiming to make it needlessly hard; I was making it to be different.
< 1447130488 828405 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolgeshell is /one/ way of thinking of it, certainly.
< 1447130502 433096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember though, I /did/ include backspace-to-revert.
< 1447130503 96094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the number of my first pull request
< 1447130670 539709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but why go so far out of your way to prevent pasting?
< 1447130695 87160 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well really, I just don't want to have to implement pasting because I'm using this for my OS
< 1447130787 862904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, started adding in all kinds of features to prevent pasting even where it would likely already work on its own (e.g. if you just let the shell run in a standard vterm)
< 1447130829 962097 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my OS uses a canvas and some bindings instead of directly using the standard streams, because that's what made sense at the time
< 1447130849 474527 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so these command prompts can be drawn onto the GUI
< 1447131040 266988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so I would have an excuse to use the font I made that can only be drawn on Tk canvases
< 1447131055 910817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
< 1447131076 439610 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'll probably allow users to paste stuff in. But no guarantees, of course
< 1447131083 66309 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing paste is really easy though. there's a couple of different libraries to handle it for you
< 1447131086 600979 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out how to implement...
< 1447131091 573296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: obviously you should call this AntiPasta hth
< 1447131098 785061 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Haven't found a cross-plantform one to date, AFAIK
< 1447131110 476145 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: My problem is that I have to support all keyboard characters
< 1447131119 950106 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :xerox is p cross-platform. did you try that?
< 1447131184 658327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently antipasta is a misspeling
< 1447131297 134172 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see the .itxt and .ipng file format, for encoding infintely-large text and images
< 1447131325 623923 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it has become standard for some reason
< 1447131539 879584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hakatashi 5*  10New user account
< 1447131620 952481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Sclipting14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45239&oldid=44910 5* 03Hakatashi 5* (+0) 10/* Byte-array literals */
< 1447131783 16236 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I think I've figured out implementation
< 1447131826 859308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getattr(self, 'com_'+hex(chr(char))[2:].zfill(2))()
< 1447131828 851364 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hakatashi eh
< 1447131840 863886 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE SHALL FEAST ON HIS BLOOD AT DAWN
< 1447131858 551385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(someone oughta tell timwi that sclipting is the most poorly organized and explained article on the wiki, even if it's not true.)
< 1447133195 705376 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447133807 24874 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out the primitive control flow for Getchl
< 1447133818 448859 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @ command: Repeats the last command until it fails.
< 1447133837 482200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+@ sums the stack
< 1447133853 728955 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :,@ gets a string of input, terminated by an EOF
< 1447133888 366056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Et cetera
< 1447133926 827759 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, of course, ? which is the ternary if
< 1447134288 437 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ?@ is while?
< 1447134316 19652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't /think/ that's how it works
< 1447134328 839645 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not thinking it through right now; too tired.
< 1447134344 948678 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think you might be right
< 1447134390 364129 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were to make the conditions for ?'s failure or success right, I suppose it could be the ternary while xD
< 1447134400 490097 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really, @ is closer to "reduce" than to "while"
< 1447134417 261892 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "for"
< 1447134497 530722 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ doesn't take a block of code; it just repeats the previous instruction until it fails
< 1447134524 333063 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I could, theoretically, make the { and } instructions denote blocks...
< 1447134546 80691 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where a block is... what? Pass-or-fail?
< 1447134586 604052 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A do-while loop... where the condition is whether its contents crashes. That's cool.
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< 1447136724 562351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1447137867 533029 :nchambers\dead!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers
< 1447138380 702714 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447138527 933398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nchambers: HE IS RISEN
< 1447138530 142027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447139212 896754 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am IRCJesus
< 1447139355 565623 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447139418 553757 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1447139444 27405 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lols
< 1447139461 531287 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work
< 1447139545 104374 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always works
< 1447139668 157629 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's working so much it overflowed and now it's negative lols
< 1447139890 68021 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you expecting
< 1447139910 127524 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its far to easy to get overflol
< 1447140372 452339 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i manage to miss overflol
< 1447140374 703080 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm retarded
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< 1447156087 39254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45240&oldid=44831 5* 0378.91.103.24 5* (-171) 10/* History */ Deleted claims. See comments in discussion.
< 1447156296 348930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45241&oldid=42983 5* 0378.91.103.24 5* (+548) 10
< 1447156465 390493 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447156486 25719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you do when you find that each of the separate pieces work fine, but put together they don't work?
< 1447156486 174215 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: basically what i am trying to make the intent of wikipedia to promote the pov that the report " fnord malicious fnord fnord news
< 1447156734 456099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Qllzyfyh 5*  10New user account
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< 1447157663 903381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you do with a drunken sailor? 
< 1447157664 208688 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: definition is ' ' princess of the netherlands will associate the subject with. user:krator ( user talk:kratort special:contributions/ kratorc) 21:47, 30 august 2007 ( utc) fnord
< 1447157798 362210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainloller14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45242&oldid=44761 5* 03Qllzyfyh 5* (+848) 10Added Extended Brainloller Type 1
< 1447157881 910462 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447157948 603080 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord fnord?
< 1447157948 788783 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: removed the earlier information, it was this station that was replaced is as follows:
< 1447157975 139671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you replace number stations?
< 1447157975 625496 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i reverted the changes which included the info ' although it may sound odd, but i believe my breakdown of the four lines into the melody. along with the fourth, is my favorite shostakovich symphony. in fact, a list of the 20 largest urban centres of nsw not local government areas of fnord within their current business processes and to document business knowledge that will be considered a part of his official profile. and
< 1447158336 678875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl
< 1447158336 864578 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006)
< 1447158384 475833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Mr President, What is your position on what has been called the migrant crisis? 
< 1447158385 394278 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, i would like to record my appreciation of the political debate of the house attach to the programme. there are proposals such as the greenhouse effect linked to the level that was originally expected. latin america is still living proof of this lies in the negotiations with the council decision of 14 december which i have helped and supported me for i could not do so because those 
< 1447158403 269630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin America, living proof of the lies.
< 1447158437 506388 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SLIPPERY CHICKEN
< 1447158740 660750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is your take on the proliferation of walls of text?
< 1447158741 251171 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, it is a tangible way of doing things and taking positive steps. curiously though, we have instigated a process of almost ten years in the cause of many of our newspapers, there is only a drop in harvest by an estimated 2.3 million tonnes of food inside goma. so we're not talking about words here.
< 1447158775 234262 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: thanks
< 1447158776 153192 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, mr president, commissioner, over the last twenty months. applause you will strengthen the cooperation between the national authorities then fail to adopt the fourth framework programme is what we demand when the effect of informing and consulting employees and the trades in drugs, but in order for us to extend the length of study to a greater extent, the way in which the slorc oppresses and rules burma. the
< 1447158801 17595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "applause" is a nice touch
< 1447158852 126729 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is at a seminar led by Tony Hoare!

< 1447159392 21599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, applause
< 1447159499 324905 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447159515 29655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainloller14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45243&oldid=45242 5* 03Qllzyfyh 5* (+143) 10Added a note on Extended Brainloller colour ranges.
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< 1447159694 938454 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447159814 242167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The walls-of-text answer was surprisingly fitting.
< 1447159980 610218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you ever taken a bribe? 
< 1447159980 934542 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, it was the socialist/ green coalition of chancellor schr�der, proposed specifically on the measures to be taken in wto negotiations will cost us a great deal at stake: economic and monetary union.
< 1447160002 263523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So do you think the ends justify the means? 
< 1447160003 332068 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, we are entirely sure that the contracts did in fact agree with what has already been sent to greece. the otila report, which her colleague carlos lage, has presented us with), i want to protest very strongly about i should like to say to mrs frahm and mr cappato and especially with baroness ludford when she says that it is imperative to point out that mr turmes' s report on large combustion plants should b
< 1447160095 105629 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan thanks for all your work on Data.Constraint.Forall!
< 1447160095 292890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1447165514 74449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainloller14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45244&oldid=45243 5* 03Qllzyfyh 5* (+0) 10Fixed color specification.
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< 1447167444 610662 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrrm. So, I was going to use libclang for a thing. But now it turns out I don’t actually have a libclang.so, so now I don’t know how to link my program.
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< 1447167667 312685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Yamini14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45245 5* 03B0811 5* (+506) 10Created page with "Yamini, the hand model. The intelligent, the idiot, and the one that annoys the crap out of everyone. The world ended on October 16th,2000. Her name is pronounced YEAH-MEANIEE..."
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< 1447168704 814597 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane
< 1447168757 857639 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it’s just specifically buried.
< 1447170014 661996 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrixu-san
< 1447170048 823890 :nitrixu-san!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrix
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< 1447172130 232512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: could you plox delete that Yamini page?
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< 1447175321 345274 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did she annoy the crap out of you?
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< 1447179306 471871 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i was slightly annoyed inasmuch as I don't have the editing privileges to revert a page creation myself. but it was more of slight irking than a full on bothering
< 1447179322 937223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end i'm glad i'm not the one who has to deal with that b.s.
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< 1447182651 617578 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In getchl, @@ is a mneumonic for "Loop forever and do nothing"
< 1447183170 102743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds useful
< 1447183853 76183 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447184498 597700 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sleep infinity
< 1447184514 74894 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ gnu sleep actually supports that
< 1447184538 166349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1447184989 236092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45246 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1184) 10Created Page
< 1447185033 237733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:Language constructs14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45247 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+66) 10Created Category
< 1447185091 515943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45248&oldid=45246 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+14) 10Fixed implementation formatting
< 1447185172 310229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1447185174 496242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lithuanian spam
< 1447185209 426188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45249&oldid=45248 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+107) 10Ideal implementation, see also
< 1447185317 280596 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it?
< 1447185507 330777 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure or condition else14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45250 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+841) 10Created Page
< 1447185553 496550 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The do loop until failure? It's all explained on the page.
< 1447185636 215247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45251&oldid=45249 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+167) 10Meaning
< 1447185672 736376 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean
< 1447185676 440729 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lithuanian spam
< 1447185723 412756 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh xD/:(
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< 1447186726 709527 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's esoteric about that?
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< 1447189177 8247 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers\dead
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< 1447190914 663628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making the program to convert directly from DVI to PBM without needing any PostScript or PDF or other intermediate formats. If you are not tampering with the page order then the input does not have to be seekable and therefore can even be generated with a pipe.
< 1447191126 712185 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Really? The manpage doesn’t say anything about it. Or does that count as a floating point number?
< 1447191158 131048 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yeah it's because of how the float is converted
< 1447191220 406223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, "sleep nan" doesn't fly.
< 1447191237 910843 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :strtod, I guess?
< 1447191267 790896 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would parse “infinity” according to the manpage.
< 1447191447 637590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TeX cannot pipe the DVI output, although maybe troff is capable of doing this, or an extension of TeX which has such a command-line switch.)
< 1447191513 413357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can use piping with postscript too.
< 1447191542 848197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar:  if (! xstrtod (argv[i], &p, &s, c_strtod) || ! (0 <= s) || (*p && *(p+1)) || ! apply_suffix (&s, *p)) { error (0, 0, _("invalid time interval %s"), quote (argv[i])); ok = false; }
< 1447191635 404684 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Wonder what xstrtod is.
< 1447191654 359711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wrapper around strtod-like functions, performing some commonly useful error checking.
< 1447191663 752011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function it calls is the fourth argument, in this case c_strtod.
< 1447191735 744446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And c_strtod is some sort of a compile-time dispatcher to either strtod or strtod_l, the latter of which has something to do with locales.
< 1447191881 438837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, if you have a program that support it then yes you can do that too of course, if you are using PostScript.
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< 1447194524 388878 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is DUP on a queue equivalent to    `dqd=DEQUEUE(); ENQUEUE(dqd); EQUEUE(dqd)`    , or is it closer to    `dqd=PEEK(); ENQUEUE(dqd);`    ?
< 1447194543 925012 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess the former
< 1447194558 113331 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that?
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< 1447195312 945173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Nikoraito 5*  10New user account
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< 1447195854 609576 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION twiddles fungot

< 1447195855 612568 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i have, i would like to thank commissioner flynn for his dedication and commitment to take action on this matter, especially as we know, usually draws up reports, we condemn the government of spain. it would be more worthwhile voting for if it is based on the mutual assistance which should be subject to codecision, that is, a great deal to say, that strikes me as conduct unworthy of a country, in article 2, second subpar
< 1447195902 136930 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: twiddle boily
< 1447195902 330119 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, you understand, because they could get the proposed legislation implemented soon. i would just like to say that i will search for global security in the mediterranean
< 1447195940 39603 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : We're getting plenty of new users lately :)
< 1447195940 961043 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel legislatively twiddled.
< 1447195945 221962 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This's making me happy
< 1447195957 183692 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new users are fun!
< 1447195966 78316 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getchl is coming along nicely, though the letters are hard to map to commands
< 1447196089 494896 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily
< 1447196157 768793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]
< 1447196165 852403 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot
< 1447196167 282207 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mr president, i have listened very carefully to understand it. in the same way, and in particular sensitive traditional sectors such as transport and fisheries. this annual programme will hopefully coincide with the original proposal of eur 971 million to cope with the demands for compensation which might ensue. for that reason mr blak's point and mrs lulling's point were so relevant. what mrs mckenna has just ha
< 1447196194 633839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why did we condemn the government of Spain again? I forgot.
< 1447196195 106858 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, commissioner, i represent a country which, under provocation certainly, immediately takes up arms to enforce it. so, as representative of former chancellor vranitzky. he is as thick as two short planks. the eu is to be mastered successfully. here, we will progressively reduce these by taking the opinions of the committees, if it is to be introduced.
< 1447196200 92597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. have you updated the fizziegraphs as of lately?
< 1447196206 166470 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You might say you /fungot/
< 1447196206 419102 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i would be interested to know the names of mrs lienemann and mrs roth-behrendt, and they never will. our aim is to have information and consultation of employees.
< 1447196219 264142 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles hppavilion[1]

< 1447196230 346432 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447196232 410849 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deserved that.
< 1447196244 283481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Their names are Lienemann and Roth-Behrendt HTH HAND
< 1447196244 702803 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mrs kla� has highlighted a number of problems today, i now ask you to allow us to take on those tasks. however, this will cause some overlapping of funding, such as the ' prodi amendment' and the ' polluter pays' principle. generally, experience tends to prove us right.
< 1447196253 598944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Have I told you about Getchl yet?
< 1447196281 432053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the eu is to be mastered successfully."
< 1447196348 62517 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, you didn't. what's a getchl?
< 1447196370 697251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like an accurate reflection of the EU commission's attitude
< 1447196385 940952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a shell that uses getch() as its only form of interaction. And not "in a way". I mean, like, every time a keystroke occurs commands are executed
< 1447196390 984366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an obfuscated shell
< 1447196401 426077 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it's pretty normal, aside from being stacky
< 1447196416 290649 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classes just ended for the day, so I have to leave the room I'm currently in. Be back in a bit.
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< 1447196790 429709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moerjning
< 1447196819 357751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1447196819 506223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk said 10h 12m 4s ago: thanks for all your work on Data.Constraint.Forall!
< 1447196825 628698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION beams

< 1447196842 894707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morningt-e
< 1447196868 540778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why don't you beam in #-lens hth
< 1447196939 557105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot. oerjan was rewardedwardk!
< 1447196940 174024 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, i would like to end, mr president, commissioner, this is a start when it comes to its progressive social and environmental conditions. this in no way compromise the provisions of article 11 of protocol no 9 to give a progress report on the main guidelines for the 1999 budget as a whole, and i have two requests to the drug that morocco grows and markets and we are working with all the undesirable budgetary c
< 1447196969 996804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :an excellent start to an end, there
< 1447196970 341310 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1447196970 490049 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1447196993 528926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon
< 1447196993 677529 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive)
< 1447197004 129976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: when the end is nigh, fungot will save us with filibustering hth
< 1447197004 370747 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you ever helped maintained its, and leaving another 50 or 60 droppings in my desk? i just had to share it with a funny os. anyone caught with unapproved key bindings will be: 16
< 1447197029 833075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive", not the jargon file
< 1447197033 188761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that when you light a cigar with a piece of newspaper?
< 1447197081 457490 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure which other word I'm conflating with the english one here)
< 1447197096 251841 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION deflates and goes to bed

< 1447197140 489056 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :. o O ( hmm, flations )
< 1447197149 412431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, sorry, let me fix
< 1447197169 156902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :The right channel. | You has indestructible. | ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/
< 1447197292 201653 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :The flating channel. | /ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/
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< 1447197660 871354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you expect you might use my DVI->PBM software (just guess for now as the program is not quite completed yet)? And if you have any other suggestion about features or any question, you can tell me that too; I hope to make improvement as much good as possible.
< 1447198048 380163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PBM?
< 1447198057 880606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45252&oldid=45231 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+1042) 10Computational class
< 1447198081 641323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bortable Pitmaps.
< 1447198145 592364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can use other programs such as ImageMagick to convert into other formats and do other effects, as well as programs such as foo2zjs to convert PBM into ZjStream format (used by some printers).)
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< 1447198484 454230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The man page for pktype says the author's name but the table of contents for the PKtype program itself only says that the preparation of this report is supported in part by the National Science Foundation (a version number and date are also included). Do you know why?
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< 1447199746 546324 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that problem
< 1447199754 150112 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where you have a string
< 1447199759 936394 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's split and you have to glue it back
< 1447199772 922309 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider ababacaca
< 1447199782 644574 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :split it in pieces of 4 characters
< 1447199793 592442 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea was to start from any piece
< 1447199807 287845 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to extend it as much as possible in both directions
< 1447199816 967364 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then add the other pieces
< 1447199837 856510 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but consider baba and abab
< 1447199846 988799 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can be glued in both directions
< 1447199857 207631 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i could end up with babab
< 1447199877 288223 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is wrong
< 1447199983 261557 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( babababababababab... )
< 1447200073 622423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ello
< 1447200183 909892 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloppro!
< 1447200415 269172 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447200421 420791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45253&oldid=44859 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2933) 10Greatly improved page
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< 1447200954 259945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45254&oldid=45253 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+10) 10Added link to Queue page
< 1447201154 298395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Queue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45255&oldid=44858 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1441) 10Moderately improved page
< 1447201177 490906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Queue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45256&oldid=45255 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-2) 10Fixed header error
< 1447201215 413638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Queue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45257&oldid=45256 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10Table error
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< 1447201945 916224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: In oerjan's graph problem form, your example would have (among others) the nodes aba and bab, and the edges aba -> bab, bab -> aba, and it would be "obvious" the cycle goes aba -> bab -> aba -> ..., because there are no other out-edges from bab (unlike aba, which has the aba -> bac edge from the piece "abac").
< 1447201984 692042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45258&oldid=44856 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+3702) 10Improved page, going to add more operations soon
< 1447202014 789230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45259&oldid=45258 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-2) 10Header error
< 1447202145 890096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45260&oldid=45259 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+215) 10One new operation, fixed colspan on table headers
< 1447202170 143280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45261&oldid=45260 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-1) 10Typo
< 1447202342 919895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: put differently, you cannot get bab as the first element in a new cycle because the first element should already be in the path you've already collected, and that cannot happen.
< 1447202364 527799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/element/node/
< 1447202392 672897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If coalescing nodes with a single in-edge and out-edge, the example graph would be nodes {aba, aca} and the labeled edges {aba -(ababa)-> aba, aba -(abaca)-> aca, aca -(acaca)-> aca}.)
< 1447202415 387707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1447202459 172501 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopiaaaAAAAAAAAA!
< 1447202485 622541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, i see what you mean, this is only at startup
< 1447202526 214240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you could in fact get a cycle when you start that cannot be in the whole, if not careful.
< 1447202581 92234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the simplest fix is to detect the starting node by finding the unique node that has more outgoing than ingoing edges
< 1447202595 846922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start building from there
< 1447202632 736213 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if more than one exist?
< 1447202638 382652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible
< 1447202663 940071 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean
< 1447202688 529353 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447202690 510109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all nodes except two have the same number of outgoing and ingoing edges
< 1447202790 71462 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's true
< 1447202809 67131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must, if there's actually a unique path containing all edges exactly once
< 1447202842 762581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because any edge with more out than in can _only_ be at the start, and vice versa
< 1447202875 196508 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1447202883 811533 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the heads up
< 1447202938 270081 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't follow >.<
< 1447202998 306535 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have to contain all the edges exactly once?
< 1447203014 365816 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must contains every vertex exactly once
< 1447203027 766352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the edges are the pieces given
< 1447203040 714022 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447203124 325779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course two edges may have the same string, that's what repetition means)
< 1447203165 950941 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (...ababababababababab... )
< 1447203171 505657 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about the dual
< 1447203172 773311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh, that's a bit contradictory
< 1447203191 765022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a unique path if you distinguish edges with the same string
< 1447203209 952084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could obviously switch their places
< 1447203242 934151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's actually a unique path of _nodes_, using each edge once
< 1447203266 577160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but where nodes may be repeated)
< 1447203628 29931 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. do you read Dresden Codak?
< 1447203628 29963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447203639 550663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1447203764 432326 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you read?
< 1447204098 815003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally.
< 1447204118 625063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than i used to.
< 1447204254 330888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, you left :'-lens #(
< 1447204291 513658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i stand a channel like that, unlogged?  that's madness.
< 1447204308 575493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ignore what people say when you're not around
< 1447204329 965236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also madness hth
< 1447204369 135309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? madness
< 1447204370 254042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness lies thataway.
< 1447204437 818763 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (...bababababababab *ZGRNGNGN* abababababab...)
< 1447204809 607104 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-taflvifbdslhmeut QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1447204811 596896 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goppers are having a debate in 40 minutes
< 1447204842 736030 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who will win, but I know I will lose.
< 1447204923 642698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\, pikhelloq.
< 1447204927 662814 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gopper
< 1447204928 894487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopper? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447204949 966184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: reading the logs, i am shocked to discover that the europarl style isn't proper utf8 tdnh
< 1447204966 601204 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOPper -- one who is a member of the Grand Old Party, the younger of the two major US political parties.
< 1447204969 861376 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains a lot
< 1447204992 162841 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopper : a GOP person-dude
< 1447204995 197328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07$tonePits14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45262&oldid=40544 5* 0371.94.244.146 5* (-7) 10
< 1447205005 392919 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really humorous it has that name, really.
< 1447205048 20953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the democratic party is no longer the clearly least democratic
< 1447205098 941324 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is the opposition to the Federalist party...
< 1447205104 899985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you running for president twh
< 1447205111 986142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Priority Deque is best data structure.
< 1447205114 275104 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No.
< 1447205126 960364 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not of age to be President, unfortunately.
< 1447205168 551972 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, our Southern Neighbours still have to elect a President.
< 1447205178 186829 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1447205181 858819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hm if you want to pick out extremes at both sides.  but what if you want the middle option (i'm imagining the Priority Deque used in politics, here)
< 1447205190 300067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: maybe we could get an amendment in by next year
< 1447205193 996356 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ours is doing well, if I may say so.
< 1447205203 112061 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: our head of state or head of government?
< 1447205210 342222 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What operations does a Queue have in addition to ENQUEUE, DEQUEUE, and ROLL?
< 1447205214 696384 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd have a better shot at letting non-native Americans take the job.
< 1447205216 352791 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there are two types of DUP
< 1447205259 504747 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, at one point there was enough people who would support Schwarzenegger as President.
< 1447205263 486567 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lol the 27th amendment
< 1447205277 75305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Queue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45263&oldid=45257 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+231) 10One new operation
< 1447205289 398845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: SIT and FETCH hth
< 1447205291 160622 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one? Hah.
< 1447205372 764936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: head of gov.
< 1447205501 437174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02Yamini10]]": Spam: content was: "Yamini, the hand model. The intelligent, the idiot, and the one that annoys the crap out of everyone. The world ended on October 16th,2000. Her name is pronounced YEA..." (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/B0811|B0811]]")
< 1447205590 841634 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, he's doing pretty great
< 1447205714 648094 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISTUPGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE!!! ♪
< 1447205719 538105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VORPAL CHICKEN
< 1447205754 498559 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people with your ineffectual heads of state.
< 1447205768 304250 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :our head of state is far from ineffectual
< 1447205773 108649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that was probably more gibberish than spam.  how long should i block for?
< 1447205775 182323 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :she just doesn't have much to do
< 1447205789 868392 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's very good at doing it
< 1447205805 953415 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with "powerless".
< 1447205810 304081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there was a phone number at the end, but i hesitate to call what preceded it an advertisement)
< 1447205817 701452 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this language I'm creating is *so* going to be the next SQL.
< 1447205829 620343 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at this: "points where x > 3 each set x := 3"
< 1447205843 549674 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's obviously far superior to "update points set x = 3 where x > 3".
< 1447205850 541298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only conclude none of you have a clue.  where _is_ ais523...
< 1447205855 804727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447205872 384622 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britain HTH
< 1447205887 954991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is plausible, although not proven
< 1447205909 811215 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, fuck this jet lag so much
< 1447205913 348868 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's sort of an unconvincing example.
< 1447205959 705985 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to delete everyone who owns a house? "houses.owner.delete"
< 1447205972 993370 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1447205981 664798 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain is basically on UTC+1 while my reality is on UTC-8.
< 1447205984 192374 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the SQL equivalent:
< 1447206009 653117 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"delete from people where id in (select owner_id from houses)"
< 1447206040 818753 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm taking advantage of two things that SQL doesn't.
< 1447206053 885559 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In many cases, you can treat the act of deletion as if it were just a column.
< 1447206094 443121 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"select (delete this row from the "people" table) from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id"
< 1447206122 813720 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And second, having a foreign key column that's just an integer, and then doing a join with another table whenever you want to look up the values associated with that foreign key, is stupid.
< 1447206149 556630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10blocked [[02User:B081110]] with an expiry time of 1 week (account creation disabled): Intimidating behavior/harassment
< 1447206157 106787 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how SQL gets all people who own houses: "select people.id from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id"
< 1447206160 823253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a random decision

< 1447206189 980216 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You really ought to just be able to take a row in the "houses" table and perform an indexing operation on it to get the corresponding row in the "people" table.
< 1447206206 484711 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence, my equivalent of "select people.id from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id" is "houses.owner".
< 1447206223 763734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hth
< 1447206233 681612 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm amazing, hth.
< 1447206330 475855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the spec I'm working on for Getchl: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing
< 1447206331 239674 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to suggest.
< 1447206400 65754 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a weird tangled mess. Hard to understand fully. Definitely eso.
< 1447206452 340210 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Before someone comments "But x language is a weird tangled mess that's hard to understand fully, and /it/ isn't eso" I would like to say that yes, langauge x /is/, as a matter of fact, eso, it just also happens to be in circulation making it not /seem/ eso)
< 1447206544 378988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode �
< 1447206546 674515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER]
< 1447206577 214021 :DarkPhantom!be67ca7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.103.202.125 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
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< 1447206703 921953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45264&oldid=45254 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+4) 10Fixed See Also section
< 1447206731 584733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how can you be editing the wiki when i cannot load it
< 1447206743 528721 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No idea. It's going slow though.
< 1447206766 399855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is there only one server, or are there a few worldwide?
< 1447206778 350685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one
< 1447206780 710960 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. if it were run by a hosting company_
< 1447206785 856170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1447206786 529416 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/_/)/
< 1447206799 720379 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it doesn't seem to be sending the edit through, really
< 1447206800 133792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the same server as HackEgo 
< 1447206810 495608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird
< 1447206818 868969 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it isn't the server itself, most likely
< 1447206834 82710 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I guess HackEgo was taking less computational power than the wiki
< 1447206849 260622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same thing happened to me when i did the block, HackEgo announced it but the page never loaded.  oh there it did.
< 1447206905 498697 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird
< 1447206963 499289 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PUGILISTIC CHICKEN
< 1447206992 64000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh it's worse than that, fungot's europarl style actually spits out utf8 replacement chars
< 1447206992 249981 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: " poweropen" sounds like you're an alien in a non-distributed operating system deserves better. except in very rare instances, you
< 1447207044 298060 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just counted, and Getchl practically has 103 commands. It uses only the printable ascii characters, and each command is one character. Think about that.
< 1447207061 877294 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not all the letter commands do anything yet though)
< 1447207101 500506 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, nothing is assigned to |, and ~ is subject to change because its current meaning is stupid)
< 1447207117 991665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add control character too then if you would need such a things.
< 1447207162 286091 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't need new characters; I have plenty
< 1447207200 383189 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can technically execute a control character though by pushing its value on the stack then calling ` (the Apply/Eval command)
< 1447207208 567142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will most likely just fail
< 1447207279 674530 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION totally isn't trying to get people to click that link so that he can get feedback

< 1447207296 81778 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, no need for others' comments on my work here. xD.
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< 1447208136 22008 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
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< 1447211213 708799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1447211217 20677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember Emil?
< 1447211223 474707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_i_L%C3%B6nneberga
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< 1447211350 853329 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRS, the Department of Commercs, the department of Energy, the department of Commerce, and the HUD.
< 1447211630 347786 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1447211643 606417 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Department of Commerce does not-much, and what it does is important.
< 1447211656 143651 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a budget of $60 billion.
< 1447211672 446141 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's got one of the few things the government is obligated to do: the census.
< 1447211680 196762 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the NOAA and the patent office.
< 1447211795 749459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course i remember emil, what about him
< 1447211803 26556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing
< 1447211807 128384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remembered emil
< 1447211808 246899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Nikoraito14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45265 5* 03173.169.59.42 5* (+170) 10Created page with "Nikoraito is a pretty alright guy. He's working on 3var-x, a reverse-compatible dialect of 3var with a number of useful additional features including file io and a shell."
< 1447211816 867040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a thing where he got a thing stuck on his head?
< 1447211934 785065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447211942 161442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a soup bowl, iirc
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< 1447211958 801621 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might want to point out to 
< 1447211972 456158 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump that China isn't in the TPP
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< 1447212015 962968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was there a thing with a mousetrap under the table?
< 1447212020 219906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i mixing up different things now
< 1447212034 503700 :andrew_!~andrew@119.139.13.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447212047 62738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't remember all of the stories
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< 1447212088 23020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1447212090 971967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember Emil?
< 1447212098 795148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_and_the_Detectives
< 1447212131 502386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i had never heard of that author until some german in this channel mentioned him
< 1447212138 717727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, really?
< 1447212144 522895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :really
< 1447212149 750043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought this latter emil was much more famous
< 1447212159 128766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in norway, for sure
< 1447212165 132494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not when i grew up
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< 1447214143 667928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Roadrunner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45266&oldid=44162 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-16) 10too many links, and section case
< 1447215162 739950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45267&oldid=45193 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-92) 10sp, wikify
< 1447215609 63213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stare/1.014]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45268&oldid=44278 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+6) 10links, grm
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< 1447216639 6630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symball14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45269&oldid=44217 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+39) 10wikify
< 1447216938 299432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02Capricorn10]]": Stub with no context and nothing to find with Google (OK, I'm not sure about the Japanese hits)
< 1447217442 982640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DeafPig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45270&oldid=44208 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+51) 10wikify
< 1447217679 234573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10moved [[02Object-oriented10]] to [[Object-oriented paradigm]]: As suggested on talk page
< 1447217679 494512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10moved [[02Talk:Object-oriented10]] to [[Talk:Object-oriented paradigm]]: As suggested on talk page
< 1447217817 937776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn wiki locked up again
< 1447217905 638239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:Object-oriented paradigm14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45275&oldid=7967 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10expand link
< 1447217952 317747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Object-oriented paradigm14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45276&oldid=45273 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+90) 10Done
< 1447218180 638918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45277&oldid=41982 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+60) 10wikify
< 1447218326 723874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pig14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45278&oldid=45277 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10/* The Pig series */ order
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< 1447219634 16986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45279&oldid=45252 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+95) 10/* Examples */
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< 1447221610 146076 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud
< 1447221610 294749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1447221879 137448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45280&oldid=45261 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-243) 10/* Additional Operations */ Removed duplicate operation
< 1447221977 732087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVER = SAVE POP RIGHT SAVE POP PUSH LEFT PUSH RIGHT PUSH RETRIEVE LEFT RETRIEVE
< 1447221983 903331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm proud of that. Need to test it though
< 1447221984 502464 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447222031 911309 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works
< 1447222040 307855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the accumulators may be broken
< 1447222042 210576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check
< 1447222053 884175 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@147-178-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. It works.
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< 1447227886 267827 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :dts|pokeball
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< 1447238365 236752 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ajvrxogqqbciaqic QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1447243982 149229 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1447243982 297802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
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< 1447247319 278066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/1fGHbJ/raw  this is a prefix calculator for this challenge https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/7/
< 1447247328 802948 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but something stupid must be wrong
< 1447247336 624628 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it scores 60%
< 1447247347 557353 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :help me find a test case that fails  :|
< 1447247934 680434 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see
< 1447248054 98076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: maybe you're doing the division backwards? the spec doesn't really say
< 1447248073 624086 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: * * 3 4 - 10 5
< 1447248076 504038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That input doesn't work
< 1447248159 113475 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thanks
< 1447248201 165831 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: maybe try + 0 0 or + 0 10 in case the gcd routine gets confused by zeros
< 1447248218 669393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: also + 10 0
< 1447248285 483885 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to work?
< 1447248421 5179 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1447248426 750527 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :- is not supposed to be supported
< 1447248436 135684 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only has + * /
< 1447248453 813984 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot i didn't implement - on purpose
< 1447248628 142751 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1447248634 364535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops
< 1447248663 88121 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :* * 3 4 / 10 5   seems to produce the expected result
< 1447248701 376564 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces 24
< 1447248722 363097 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct?
< 1447248726 344965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 is correct
< 1447248749 475435 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha
< 1447248750 901641 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it
< 1447248756 788231 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :* 2 / 1 2
< 1447248787 662903 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces 1 which is correct?
< 1447248801 504831 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you'd expect 0
< 1447248813 734648 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o
< 1447248836 597168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2   produces 0
< 1447248843 52833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ 1 2   I mean
< 1447248867 409202 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're only rounding your rational down at the end, rather than after every division
< 1447248905 216483 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure why you're using rationals
< 1447248913 686850 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The evaluation result will always be an integer ≥ 0."
< 1447248955 443518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using rationals because this should be 10:   + / 10 3 + / 10 3 / 10 3
< 1447248963 361634 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1447248987 739715 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That challenge is expecting you to use integer division
< 1447248999 478327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'd expect that to produce 9
< 1447249058 649960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That challenge, like so many of them, doesn't seem to specify very well what it's expecting.
< 1447249093 450565 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it could be specified better
< 1447249354 615470 :andrew_!~andrew@119.139.13.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447249375 230384 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so   * 2 / 1 2    is either 0 or 2
< 1447249402 127572 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks dumb
< 1447249799 274811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you're using rationals internally while this challenge expected you to use integers
< 1447249851 70324 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably also expects division to round towards 0
< 1447250671 831400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45281 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (+3921) 10Creating a programming language doc
< 1447250763 196232 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45282&oldid=45281 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (+2) 10/* Constants */
< 1447250820 327447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45283&oldid=45282 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (+7) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */
< 1447250870 83119 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the logo 3 lemons slices?  (did i ask this already?)
< 1447250882 382665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45284&oldid=45283 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (+7) 10/* Execution: */
< 1447250896 168148 :jameseb!~jameseb_@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447250896 540804 :zemhill!bfjoust@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::1ea:f001 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447250966 695669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45285&oldid=45284 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (+1) 10/* Constants */
< 1447250989 365392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45286&oldid=45285 5* 03179.105.145.107 5* (-93) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */
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< 1447251552 889859 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1447252116 501447 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447252156 53835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45287&oldid=44988 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-6) 10
< 1447252234 633919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45288&oldid=45286 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+26) 10
< 1447252482 117142 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447252900 160780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45289&oldid=45287 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+218) 10
< 1447253673 545860 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447255261 60552 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mesevtrxdlnddnbj JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447256094 559600 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447256972 722664 :dts|pokeball!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers
< 1447257636 859781 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does anyone know of any esolang interpreters written in Z-Machine bytecode or Glulx?
< 1447257637 791253 :andrew__!~andrew@59.38.97.12 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447257878 273998 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there must be some
< 1447257932 582777 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule (TBA): If it exists, there is a brainfuck interpreter for it
< 1447257962 316936 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's make a brainfuck interpreter for the Z-machine
< 1447257997 705295 :andrew__!~andrew@59.38.97.12 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447258026 280147 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm down
< 1447258164 946231 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm up
< 1447258425 588274 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkmowtuxxxaylbua JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447258563 30421 :ineiros_!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447258566 349749 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kuxfafcwvgztojom JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447258628 499288 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gisxgpzrdvehwqub QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447258632 962146 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kuxfafcwvgztojom NICK :heroux
< 1447258702 444657 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkmowtuxxxaylbua NICK :sewilton
< 1447258782 71264 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447259190 940608 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447259268 837440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45290 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+139) 10Created page with "Why exactly would Imapl be uncomputable? ~~~~"
< 1447259380 673325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447259627 43132 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447259637 516436 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-182-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated
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< 1447260489 239953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why is the logo 3 lemons slices?  (did i ask this already?) <-- they're not, they're limes.  and i think they were a pretty random choice by graue, the original wiki maintainer.  i once made a sub-lime pun but someone else then ran it so into the ground that even i got sick of it.
< 1447260539 516752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's pretty into the ground
< 1447260547 411948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1447260618 492020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45291&oldid=45288 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-86) 10
< 1447260632 716739 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was more cryptic than most eso langs
< 1447260675 731614 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think the reasons of why the logo is 3 lime slices seems to be only known within an enlightened circle
< 1447260684 871994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say that they're... esoteric
< 1447260706 147321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1447260724 973728 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45292&oldid=45291 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-95) 10/* Etymology */
< 1447262327 388033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447262473 382998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45293&oldid=45289 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+258) 10
< 1447262690 584833 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, would you say the limes are esoteric twh
< 1447262744 157259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does twh stand for
< 1447262803 215900 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That would help" hth
< 1447264891 72844 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-afechwiimgamhope QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1447265070 702514 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-juejczcnodlaneoj JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447265093 246981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about Z-machine programming, I have written an interpreter too
< 1447265326 700985 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heh
< 1447265354 307012 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it a weird thing, it's not quite generic, but I might be able to put a LLVM backend together for it
< 1447265897 217509 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447265914 834327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1447267141 223405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1447267150 198698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh will we have a christmas bitcoin bubble?
< 1447267585 416871 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447267879 620877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll burst december 31st... that would be fun.
< 1447268294 823968 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you would need my Zork Machine Interpreter/Debugger, it is:  http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/interp/zorkmid.zip
< 1447268337 369705 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca NICK :zzo38
< 1447269042 245331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some of the Z-machine programming techniques such as Black-Johansen algorithm and SET->BCOM optimization?
< 1447269376 789486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!coins
< 1447269385 915127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1447269393 369828 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the command again
< 1447269395 504732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02slocoin 06beatercoin 13oilcoin 04palagufcoin 07cholomscoin 08unwecoin 09contropitcoin 02velcoin 06tedcoin 13ethuttocoin 04enullcoin 07brentecoin 08frcmoecoin 09hackfllcycoin 02grucoin 06smihcoin 13argacoin 04iuscoin 07painstuencoin 08bfercoin
< 1447269401 887984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447269425 612145 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have a christmas painsteuncoin bubble
< 1447271068 982143 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is the first time I've heard about Unicode named character escapes, such as \N{GREEK SMALL LETTER FINAL SIGMA}
< 1447271503 971991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\N{';DROP TABLE Unicode;--}
< 1447271514 796279 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447271514 945052 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
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< 1447271785 133209 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447272188 132397 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447272611 86682 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh
< 1447272613 369740 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊆ is a pain
< 1447272627 998550 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monospace is too thin, doublewidth is too wide
< 1447272635 570589 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  ⊆ 
< 1447272636 342820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+2286 SUBSET OF OR EQUAL TO] [U+0020 SPACE]
< 1447272683 493626 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447272711 295221 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sticking with the doublewidth.
< 1447272722 288432 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should start on a nonmonospace font
< 1447272730 213555 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll do that
< 1447272753 329625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out whether the linguists meet once every 8 or once ever 18 months...
< 1447272760 604870 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I call it "Nonospace"?
< 1447272801 742089 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: in what context do they appear? PCRE?
< 1447272866 78550 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think just as escapes in a string
< 1447272895 932675 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: How is ⊆ too thin with monospace?
< 1447272916 949152 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then, in what programming language?
< 1447272932 197566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl?
< 1447272962 2999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay
< 1447273040 94950 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 3 too, although it doesn't support all of them
< 1447273059 628950 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well the monospace width is 14.
< 1447273073 423664 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could make it thinner vertically
< 1447274607 501765 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447274674 738202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.explainxkcd.com/
< 1447274685 505395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Explain xkcd: It's 'cause you're dumb.)
< 1447274753 911927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I needed that explanation.
< 1447274756 437188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P
< 1447275053 133639 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447275134 371050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao
< 1447275136 876934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list
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< 1447276708 877544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Getchl14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45294 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+559) 10Created Page
< 1447276969 679830 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-77.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should ~ and | do in Getchl? Currently ~ pops two values and pushes a random integer between them, but I don't like that
< 1447277255 701321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's swap in underload, but maybe you already have that.
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< 1447277954 259851 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow
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< 1447278499 915291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45295&oldid=45279 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+27) 10/* Syntax */
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< 1447279361 706997 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@0018f8b54430.click-network.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost finished with my Major so this Programming hobby will be going away 
< 1447279376 147866 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww
< 1447279386 525482 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@0018f8b54430.click-network.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda makes me sad But I chose the medical field can't turn back now
< 1447279430 773956 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@0018f8b54430.click-network.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical Science is a stranger field Than programming I guess And the market for programming is over saturated as I've seen
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< 1447282522 637752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1447282522 786332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1447282549 115097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bomidnily
< 1447282671 527287 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœrjain.
< 1447282746 585795 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :abooily
< 1447282810 473616 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bolsnoir.
< 1447282857 640895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe it'll burst december 31st... that would be fun. <-- that looked pretty bursting right now.
< 1447283032 438952 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you burst?
< 1447283032 587737 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am on this
< 1447283049 422710 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1447283057 182790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats the 'got. “Good got”

< 1447283115 677546 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got fun?
< 1447283115 826147 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: lpr creates a printer or sitting around ready to lose sight of the conspiracy are pushing motif, posix, osi, next step in subroutine a just after that, but
< 1447283362 873140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this stupid trend with GUIs with incomprehensible icons without tooltips
< 1447283381 463942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't like to click icons that he has no idea what do

< 1447283470 726496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, at least it showed a url
< 1447283803 989450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What's the wors that could happen? *runs* )
< 1447283825 617437 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst.
< 1447283951 365208 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Clicking the circle icon formats the hard drive. How is that not obvious? )

< 1447284109 203801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUIs are evil. they Hide the True Meaning of Words.
< 1447284142 692620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes GUIs, otherwise :(

< 1447284238 331571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been four days since andrás kovács tempted me to get a github account, and i've already contributed to constraints, and am in this moment considering submitting a documentation change to ghc
< 1447284253 50246 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repent your ways! Save Yourself! (unless the interface is made of nifty pixel art. I'm a sucker for small icons with bright colours.)
< 1447284261 739447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, i know you're not supposed to send it to ghc@github
< 1447284262 676062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1447284291 244199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really ought to githubaccountify. I could coconspirator you to the Wisdom repository :D
< 1447284318 19313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um, the temptation was successful hth
< 1447284361 291075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why i'm currently setting phabricator preferences
< 1447284373 24960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the site without tooltips)
< 1447284387 355810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a twist!
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< 1447284396 695385 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, what's your username?
< 1447284400 849711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan
< 1447284419 295610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nice thing with having a weirdly spelled nick, it's almost always free
< 1447284471 196616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not sure I can support a site that has a "conpherence" function for chatting.
< 1447284471 355924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically it was registered when i came to freenode, but luckily it was beyond ask-for-takeover threshold)
< 1447284488 868945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well it's ph all the way, surely
< 1447284507 578913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Diffusion" seems to not be a "diphphusion".
< 1447284520 487126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and this is phabricator.haskell.org, in case there's any ambiguity
< 1447284520 635551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going by the screenshot on the front page.
< 1447284561 284578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My nickname is almost always taken. *sad*)
< 1447284571 174805 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are hereby collaboratified.
< 1447284616 380795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On github, "fizzie" seems to be someone who does absolutely nothing publicly visible with the account.
< 1447284622 579489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's all private repos for them.
< 1447284635 471087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is this the right time to admit i've never opened wisdom.pdf?
< 1447284651 946096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels evil

< 1447284697 264787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're either wisdom or you're againstdom, oerjan
< 1447284738 866617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think dipphusion would be more intuitive
< 1447284767 947483 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are evil. of course you never opened it.
< 1447284780 252576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew you'd understand 
< 1447284813 245281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of some dialog systems in some games.
< 1447284825 629647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have tags like "[Lie] X" for conversation options.
< 1447284863 245305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember at least one that had "X" and "[Lie] X" for the same X, and X was not something the game system could possibly observe, because it was about your motivations.
< 1447284901 39986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was somewhat confusing, because you could lie about lying by selecting the untagged "X" 
< 1447285051 11435 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this feels very topological. you can lie, or not lie, about something unobservable.
< 1447285234 526190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then possibly you might not know your motivation quite yet though?
< 1447285364 720167 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymorphic motivation.
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< 1447285877 312534 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the number 8388608 feel so... unspecial?
< 1447285890 669109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know?
< 1447285902 338612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2^23, the point at which the next 32-bit floating point number above it is +1
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< 1447286459 918511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, 16777216 feels very special. Maybe just because it's more things.
< 1447286493 772092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the number of colors many devices are marketed to support
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< 1447286538 56428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about 1073741824?
< 1447286568 990346 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess it's 2^30 but I don't really recognize it.
< 1447286569 717637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take out the middle six digits, you get 1024
< 1447286574 61405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 2^30
< 1447286606 638642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I see it's about 10^9 and starts with approximately 1072, so that's plausible.)
< 1447286638 986356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^31
< 1447286640 541427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2147483648
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< 1447286745 263307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pow2
< 1447286745 536975 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ...
< 1447286816 57846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: When it's not called just "millions of colors".
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< 1447287470 172592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523!
< 1447287497 641081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: long time no see
< 1447287530 768967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've been ill
< 1447287544 655461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anything come up that I need to deal with?
< 1447287697 347500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds nasty
< 1447287715 115603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for two weeks, i mean
< 1447287767 567189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there was a weird spammer who didn't really spam a link, so i wanted to ask you how long to ban them
< 1447287783 671642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think i chose a week just to be weird)
< 1447287792 480488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're Agora Speaker hth
< 1447287850 387451 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hai.
< 1447287889 815379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall anything else you were too needed for
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< 1447289010 869927 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhelloq, hppavellon[1].
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< 1447289632 684414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right... if I have 4 vectors, I can construct a vector space of degree at most four with some subset of them as the basis
< 1447289677 948924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If in 4 dimensional space, I put a vertex at (1, 0, 0, 0), (0, 1, 0, 0), etc...
< 1447289687 39340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I form a tetrahedron from those vertices?
< 1447289689 579376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can
< 1447289705 86164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/degree/dimension/
< 1447289709 786616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1447289715 467913 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those vertices are also linearly dependent
< 1447289775 395959 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, my question is, "how do I tell if two lines are coplanar in an arbitrarily high-dimensional euclidean space?"
< 1447289825 651610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+y+z+w = 1 in 4-dimensional space is a representation of 3d projective space
< 1447289912 837245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that doesn't give an isometry
< 1447289926 596407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to know if the volume is zero or not
< 1447289946 124433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right...
< 1447290111 463182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the lines are given by 4 points, then you take the vectors from one of them to the other and check if they span a 3d space
< 1447290120 807210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to the others
< 1447290163 623322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use gram-schmidt for this.
< 1447290327 262484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Gram-Schmidt took a set of vectors already known to be linearly independent
< 1447290361 603326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily.
< 1447290370 188627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also test them
< 1447290392 529597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you get 0 vector at any step, that vector was redundant with the previous)
< 1447290422 771589 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handly, here's a Gram-Schmidt I prepared earlier: http://lpaste.net/131499
< 1447290426 902227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can I form a tetrahedron from those vertices?
< 1447290443 181606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you define a tetrahedron, sometimes
< 1447290458 425579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's one in the morning, cut me some slack
< 1447290510 717749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's the simplex definition
< 1447290518 310585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm i guess that doesn't give an isometry
< 1447290530 161394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :projective space... doesn't have a metric, does it?
< 1447290538 832860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess
< 1447290549 646203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the non-finite points do, naturally
< 1447290557 234683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you can put a metric on it but the resulting geometry will be nonsense
< 1447290566 280231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (0,0,0,1) becomes an infinite one
< 1447290617 567175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1447290618 233057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : x+y+z+w = 1 in 4-dimensional space is a representation of 3d projective space
< 1447290639 895025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: homogeneous coordinates, no?
< 1447290642 32906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it isn't
< 1447290644 260056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normalized to 1)
< 1447290651 409514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's homeomorphic to R^3
< 1447290663 87663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not
< 1447290680 579211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :w = 0 are infinite points
< 1447290686 642125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh, I came up with a new esolang too while I was gone
< 1447290693 902695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't documented it yet but I have an interp
< 1447290696 542408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a moment
< 1447290699 872190 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, it is
< 1447290703 101739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be easy enough to document, seeing as it's a tarpit
< 1447290706 647410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i was wrong about (0,0,0,1), it's the only one which is _finite_
< 1447290717 834525 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eeng
< 1447290725 491260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x,y,z) = (x,y,z,-x-y-z) is a homeomorphism
< 1447290763 536275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: http://nethack4.org/esolangs/threestar.c
< 1447290816 803404 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some deeply nested pointers
< 1447290822 587381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, x=y=z=0 is not into the right set
< 1447290844 608084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1447290848 762218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-x-y-z
< 1447290880 490407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's a hyperplane in R^4
< 1447290882 614563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know
< 1447290885 238497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1447290885 387078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even compact for christ's sake
< 1447290892 544231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right
< 1447290904 963760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was originally using a void**** but it doesn't work, you do genuinely need the void***** if you're writing the program like that
< 1447290964 979650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's x+y+z+w=0 that's the infinite subwhatever
< 1447291008 310594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still not homeomorphic to projective space for the same reasons
< 1447291035 622260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to have to take a quotient at some point, i'll bet
< 1447291168 700115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway taneb was just trying to find if two lines were coplanar!
< 1447291194 955856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't two lines coplanar if and only if a) they intersect, or b) they're parallel?
< 1447291205 384295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1447291222 458771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so while i'm sure there's a nice general method it's easy to just check each case individually
< 1447291246 875266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm trying to find the intersection, or more precisely, when I can find the intersections
< 1447291264 344266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's even easier, you're just solving simultaneous equations
< 1447291283 858538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GUESS
< 1447291311 75226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i need to sleep stop getting me into geometry arguments you bastards
< 1447291345 388723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I was just rambling about my overcomplicated beginning of a solution to a problem which I never actually stated
< 1447291448 727215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not in 4d space
< 1447291464 581177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1447291476 692350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is cursed to be wrong today

< 1447291504 877402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed just today? or maybe for the rest of your life...
< 1447291519 778105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's true regardless of dimension count, but I'm not 100% certain, 4D visualisation is weird
< 1447291567 734562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no i realized that there's always a containing 3d space so 4d doesn't give anything extra
< 1447291590 382363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447291982 582220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45296&oldid=45293 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-258) 10
< 1447292484 695024 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads a scroll of remove curse at oerjan

< 1447292544 27666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You feel like someone is helping you"?
< 1447292665 279733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You feel as if something is helping you".
< 1447292704 717038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1447292888 172060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SHATTERED CHICKEN
< 1447293007 374265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. One of my friends had his girlfriend break up with him and now he's depressed and contemplating suicide.
< 1447293078 974720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would advise strongly that he doesn't.
< 1447293087 615591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did too.
< 1447293100 373574 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent 30 minutes trying to comfort him and got nowhere.
< 1447293124 501355 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up. He's stressing me out. I'm going to go back to programming to distract myself now.
< 1447293154 918370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], suggest he talk to a therapist/call a hotline?
< 1447293172 374652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Tried that.
< 1447293175 915000 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no
< 1447293178 914440 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Tried that.
< 1447293190 284588 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how did THAT happen?)
< 1447293225 719241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He agreed that he needs a shrink. He looked like he was feeling better for a bit, then he dropped back down
< 1447293232 933443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't have dumped this out here
< 1447293314 578466 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447293458 923999 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any particular name for the operation 2^floor(log_2 x)?
< 1447293492 537826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, there might be
< 1447293532 354767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an incomplete list of names for that sort of thing here, just checking it now
< 1447293599 653696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that specific one isn't there, but it's "isolate highest set bit" by analogy with "isolate lowest set bit"
< 1447293826 131594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45297&oldid=45280 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2081) 10/* Additional Operations */ Stack on the back, PAD and REVPAD
< 1447293859 489621 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"round down to the nearest power of 2"?
< 1447293868 936723 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy with my catalogue of deque operations
< 1447293941 419818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45298&oldid=45297 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+8) 10/* Operations */ Formatting
< 1447294028 859809 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a deque basically a linked list?
< 1447294062 929509 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :A doubly-linked list is one way to implement a deque
< 1447294172 2187 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue is a cool language
< 1447294202 135074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a stack/queue hybrid, if that's what you're asking (though I have a feeling you already knew)
< 1447294239 378031 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that page
< 1447294243 664768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: doubly-linked lists are a common way to implement a deque, but not the only one
< 1447294281 160973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you can also use a ring buffer that is reconstructed larger when it becomes full, or two stacks where, if a stack is empty and you try to pop it, you reverse the other stack onto the empty stack
< 1447294321 432820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the two stacks method is one that I find very useful for implementing queues in esolangs that only have stacks, and then to BCT, in order to prove turing-completeness; it actually gives you a full deque but I normally only care about the queue subset of the behaviour)
< 1447294327 683126 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some sense stack/queue/deque are abstract whereas a linked-list is concrete
< 1447294356 548265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], thanks! It's the language I'm most proud of
< 1447294368 116885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! You made that! Cool!
< 1447294372 69947 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is BCT ?
< 1447294376 317349 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I say... Queuel?
< 1447294380 635395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1447294383 391535 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I should not, because that would be stupid.
< 1447294420 713056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Your middle-last name looks like "Von Doom" with proper kerning
< 1447294426 131971 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], yes
< 1447294426 290061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, but that's so... unmathylike
< 1447294433 432301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that is true
< 1447294456 962500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it's just my last name, the "van" is part of the surname. For reference, my middle name is George)
< 1447294469 973327 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Deque has push, pop, shift and unshift. what if you had push pop and shift only?
< 1447294501 642418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: BCT = bitwise cyclic tag
< 1447294513 35346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a specific concrete instance of cyclic tag, which is a mathematical language-class
< 1447294530 828114 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I believe they are push, pop, eject, and inject
< 1447294537 389716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cyclic tag is, in my experience, the easiest TC language to implement in arbitrary esolangs
< 1447294567 357236 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not shift and unshift (which I assume are ROLLs, which can be implemented using Push, Pop, Eject, and Inject and a scalar accumulator (though you clobber the accumulator))
< 1447294577 132763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a cyclic tag / bct compiler into BF yet? there should be, it's easy
< 1447294582 317416 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: some languages call them different things, I'm using the names from Perl
< 1447294588 220816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ah
< 1447294590 859500 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/shift.html
< 1447294613 862808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can do three out of the four operations with a singly linked list
< 1447294629 833458 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to come up with a better name for DequeCLI...
< 1447294651 925299 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ToD&IA&SA-CLI? xD
< 1447294663 81815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to discard either shift or pop but you can implement the three others with just single-linking pointers and separate pointers to /both/ ends
< 1447294681 223012 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1447294681 371637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], one of my friends once wrote a program that extracted data from .drs files (which are used in some video game... age of empires, maybe?)
< 1447294691 112237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He narrowly avoided calling it drsextractor
< 1447294697 963180 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447294713 980444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's amazing
< 1447294746 146999 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like DequeCLI (or whatever its final name is) because I can define operations like DUP
< 1447294753 487070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be more amazing if he'd noticed and decided to use the name nayway
< 1447294775 275288 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sadly he is not the kind of person who would do that
< 1447294795 19850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I do math out loud here? 2048 = 2^11, 2^(11-23) = 2^-12; 
< 1447294795 205268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUP is SAVE POP PUSH PUSH RETRIEVE. SAVE and RETREIVE are optional, if you don't mind clobbering the accumulator
< 1447294831 695378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that seems correct so far
< 1447294902 90699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if a thing needs to be going half that distance in a frame, minimum meters per frame = 2^-13. Times 45 frames per second ~= 0.0055 mps
< 1447294916 448650 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lower at smaller fps
< 1447294955 204506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be easier to keep looking at my mpf calculation and have my measurement tool print measured minimum mpf
< 1447294994 665324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that number looks really really wrong based on prior measurements, but those are indirect
< 1447295059 937579 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447295248 21266 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Measured attempted minimum velocity: -0.005553
< 1447295445 702570 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1447295532 80512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My measured meters per frame is slightly higher than expected, wonder if I'm not quite measuring right
< 1447296173 130620 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447296391 724544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45299&oldid=44894 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+166) 10
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< 1447297524 749678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45300&oldid=45299 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-46) 10/* Instructions */
< 1447297676 38869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45301&oldid=45300 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-68) 10
< 1447297685 152517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHould I be happy that my math based on my theories sort of match up with what I measured, or upset that it's not more exact?
< 1447297693 173207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what sort of error these measurements have
< 1447297863 929157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45302&oldid=45238 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+130) 10
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< 1447299279 755522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45305 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+2128) 10Created page with "**Merucik** is a Brainf*** derivative that adds some minor functionality to aid the programmer in coding. Merucik programs operator on a right-open, theoretically-unbound tape..."
< 1447299358 747619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45306&oldid=45305 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+2) 10
< 1447299423 762592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45307&oldid=45149 5* 03Ais523 5* (+468) 10/* Page removal request */ for the record
< 1447299443 56133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45308&oldid=45306 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+31) 10
< 1447299462 392995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Conor O'Brien14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45309&oldid=44906 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+25) 10/* Languages I have made */
< 1447299477 445291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45310&oldid=44771 5* 03Ais523 5* (+27) 10and a new one (let's edit a link in that I can follow to create the article, the old-fashioned way)
< 1447299769 168275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45311&oldid=45308 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+281) 10/* Instructions */
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< 1447300186 992259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45313&oldid=45311 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+95) 10
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< 1447300513 413591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea
< 1447300518 317074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A logical language
< 1447300527 302406 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That recognizes logical fallacies
< 1447300688 539073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Three Star Programmer14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45314 5* 03Ais523 5* (+4998) 10new language!
< 1447300725 491708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45315&oldid=45158 5* 03Ais523 5* (+28) 10/* T */ +[[Three Star Programmer]]
< 1447300799 904430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45316&oldid=34930 5* 03Ais523 5* (+28) 10/* See also */ +[[Three Star Programmer]] (maybe at this point this should be a category, instead of / in addition to a list?)
< 1447300916 607527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I hope Three Star Programmer is TC; it feels like it is but it's a total pain to accomplish anything in 
< 1447300934 274513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, it'd be the first OISC which has one-operand instructions and doesn't rely on memory mapping
< 1447300987 283907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OISC14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45317&oldid=45316 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* See also */ this list is apparently alphabetical, not asciibetical
< 1447301263 83856 :Froox!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447301275 844162 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like some input on Getchl
< 1447301298 42559 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing)
< 1447301387 680684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Prove it!
< 1447301408 250271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a pain to program in though
< 1447301414 579783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I haven't managed to write /any/ nontrivial programs
< 1447301432 512487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only have the vaguest idea of what one would look like
< 1447301495 674997 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1447301677 994341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRL, is 4km vertically a lot or not so much?
< 1447301685 55825 :Froox!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447301695 883562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What scale are we on?
< 1447301704 450229 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cosmically, no.
< 1447301714 56958 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of quarks, yes.
< 1447301723 896347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the surface of Earth, would 4km above the surface be outer space ish?
< 1447301771 301949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line very much no
< 1447301791 392816 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447301816 559812 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I believe 100 km is space
< 1447301828 368239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the Wikipedia link, yes
< 1447301828 844668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no
< 1447302128 617699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um
< 1447302237 973272 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: an obfuscated 3SP interpreter sounds like it'd make a reasonable IOCCC submission
< 1447302261 455521 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although only if it turns out to actually be usable for programming, I suppose
< 1447302261 640773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so long as you had an actual program to run it on
< 1447302265 896645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right
< 1447302266 51318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447302270 441489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I'm using the file extension .3*
< 1447302275 372765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to drive Windows programmers mad
< 1447302288 394637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's only mildly inconvenient on Linux, mostly having to add extra quotes, and making me do a double take when I see ls output)
< 1447302293 938626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even tab completes correctly!
< 1447302298 852154 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha
< 1447302383 122307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely it'll be fine even without escaping
< 1447302469 271359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the program does not require any specific extension? (Even though it does say to use .3* at the top)
< 1447302481 520686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of interest, why the second and fourth cells for the output extension?
< 1447302579 536519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Don't you have a color computer?
< 1447302597 825135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it doesn't require a specific extension
< 1447302603 514789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what do you mean by a color computer?
< 1447302617 175220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it related to colorforth?
< 1447302619 826087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Color terminal, I suppose
< 1447302629 713026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :3sp? is that an esolang?
< 1447302631 417272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I had a feeling that it might be possible to use only the even-numbered cells
< 1447302637 55228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Three_Star_Programmer
< 1447302641 194879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can use colors with ls
< 1447302644 90911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put it on the wiki today (designed it a few days ago when I was ill)
< 1447302649 752845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh yes, color terminal, and I use colors with ls
< 1447302655 545381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still confusing seeing asterisks in ls' output
< 1447302674 80707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I put them there myself
< 1447302679 485134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd do even more of a double-take seeing (escaped) asterisks when tab-completing
< 1447302689 90323 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and feel a bit uneasy pressing enter
< 1447302719 22881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 4km is a bit less than half the height of mount everest hth
< 1447302748 895202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat
< 1447302842 4462 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447303377 493055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I seem to be able to observe "quantum" effects in SL somewhat comfortably at 4km
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< 1447306833 615730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEE https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/dc140b32c082ae38fd15
< 1447307092 304586 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You should make one where the array extends downward using my stupid x86 stack trick.
< 1447307114 438101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you could just change increments to decrements, the language spec doesn't require any particular memory layout
< 1447307127 364001 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that would work
< 1447307237 171821 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447307241 876407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My next experiment, the one that I and a coworker am eagerly anticipating: What happens when minimum velocity imposed by the nature of floating-point numbers is near the maximum velocity arbitrarily imposed by the Lindens?
< 1447307352 258233 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I make esoteric letters for a font?
< 1447307354 700611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should
< 1447307361 208471 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eso Sans
< 1447307415 834846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to use METAFONT to make up a font?
< 1447307439 312987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fun part: In order to get to a point where this occurs, we will build a MASSIVE ROCKET
< 1447307462 468768 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm using WalText II
< 1447307582 849305 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Though I might make a METAFONT or something version so people can use it in reality
< 1447307612 887087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have such constructs as the 1.5 story g and the 3-humped B
< 1447307657 519704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT is good for printer fonts. (It could be used for screen fonts too, although screen fonts are best made with a tile editor, in my opinion.)
< 1447307673 96011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does WalText II work anyways?
< 1447307953 194361 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does 'tile editor' entail?
< 1447307990 4706 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447308221 226286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45318&oldid=41115 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+965) 10/* Extensions */ new section
< 1447308258 814430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45319&oldid=45318 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+89) 10/* Extensions */
< 1447308363 730172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45320&oldid=45319 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+52) 10/* Extensions */
< 1447308622 608215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can select sets of tiles and make each pixel of each tile on/off; some more advanced ones may have additional operations too.
< 1447308724 566954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tiles may also be created with a text editor and then compiled; some programs will do it this way.)
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< 1447309662 194258 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B (three story): Check
< 1447309679 217364 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WalText II is kind of like METAFONT I've been told
< 1447309706 88765 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree fonts for computers are best designed with pixels, so there's no blurriness
< 1447309723 680346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in later versions, it's going to have a dynamic random number feature (allowing you to emulate human error in the font, making it look more realistic, less uncanny valley)
< 1447310404 882145 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "C" looks like pac-man
< 1447310420 345959 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should eso sans be monospace?
< 1447310692 631966 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you think?
< 1447310708 908914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not think about fonts hth
< 1447310827 643172 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, was it you or \oren\ that's making the font? My recognition of names (and faces, though that doeesn't really come into play) is not very good
< 1447311113 757539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "m" is a mangled mess
< 1447311133 375800 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like an h/m/~/()
< 1447311228 878269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If WalText II is like METAFONT then depending on other stuff how it works, may be possible to compile WalText II fonts into TFM/PK formats; such file formats are simple enough to do.
< 1447311561 245763 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It could very well be
< 1447311576 835785 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WalText II is actually saved as JSON xD
< 1447311745 357836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a problem.
< 1447311969 82924 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know
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< 1447313614 696514 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
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< 1447314310 966929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ARGH
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< 1447314454 652943 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should go write a language specification in ultra-limited time
< 1447314466 911189 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEW ESOLANG SPORT: UTLLD
< 1447314481 42191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ultra time-limited language design)
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< 1447314522 317893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much time limit?
< 1447314532 37272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://esolangs.org/wiki/2014 was pretty time-limited
< 1447314704 611297 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Depends on how hardcore the player is
< 1447315346 449995 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447315555 530191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deos anybody want to see eso sans yet?
< 1447315831 594219 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1447316002 358784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN
< 1447316454 328500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Three Star Programmer14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45321&oldid=45314 5* 03Ais523 5* (+85) 10/* External resources */ link to where the name comes from
< 1447319604 512994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meetings
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< 1447322718 778240 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447322752 586274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523! hello
< 1447322755 763237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen you for weeks
< 1447322761 903117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been ill
< 1447322765 710326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still am to some extent
< 1447322985 295315 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
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< 1447323930 787898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
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< 1447324079 33162 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447325083 155116 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1447325637 406574 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
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< 1447328206 375761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447329435 336297 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1447329757 510943 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused by Han Unification

< 1447330398 837294 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what type boily is, and what type Han Unification is, and whether it has any other effects apart from causing confusion

< 1447330601 308502 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firellofly. I think I'm Canadian.
< 1447330613 364621 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is mayonnaise an instrument?)
< 1447330790 939021 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447330794 934831 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnarxel
< 1447330830 484258 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord
< 1447330915 87402 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken.
< 1447331043 677007 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Han Unification supereffective against Canadian?
< 1447331299 822892 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :further research needs to be made for a conclusive conclusion.
< 1447331321 606199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ZIGGURAT CHICKEN
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< 1447333118 260131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether Han Unification is in any way similar to AC Unification...

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< 1447335070 158089 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full bridge rectifier
< 1447335739 35111 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447337929 385572 :Froo!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away*
< 1447338933 80367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45322&oldid=45290 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+624) 10
< 1447339080 394358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45323&oldid=45322 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+172) 10
< 1447339095 889446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45324&oldid=45323 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+2) 10
< 1447339140 321524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45325&oldid=45324 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-61) 10
< 1447339318 547336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45326&oldid=45292 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+0) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */
< 1447340495 319745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45327&oldid=45326 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+31) 10/* Execution: */
< 1447340497 565052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45328&oldid=45327 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+431) 10/* Computational class */
< 1447340639 905858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45329&oldid=45328 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+15) 10/* Computational class */
< 1447340926 733796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45330&oldid=45329 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+0) 10/* Constants */
< 1447341454 511899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45331&oldid=45330 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+51) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */
< 1447341514 737735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45332&oldid=45331 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-1) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */
< 1447342132 222583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45333&oldid=45296 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-98) 10
< 1447342572 227793 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an important question
< 1447342582 250480 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you right align numbers and left align strings?
< 1447342614 852595 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you use the same alignment for both?
< 1447342745 290527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justify everything, even if it's a single word.
< 1447342866 907645 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing code
< 1447342906 471412 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an array, some keys are "strings in double quotes", some are integers
< 1447342988 945375 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr["very long string"] = x; arr[22] = x
< 1447342990 836742 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr["short string"    ] = x; arr[ 2] = x
< 1447342993 330506 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does it look ok?
< 1447342996 874876 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's important
< 1447343108 269256 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is okay to me no Matter if Strings/Numbers are aligned to the Left or to the Right, or even unaligned, as long as You keep Your Style consistently.
< 1447343140 437536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I run 7z a -mx=0 so that it adds files to a 7zip archive without compressing them, and the progress message says "Compressing", then is the progress message misleading, or have I given the parameters wrong?
< 1447343279 395205 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Just test with a String of 10k zeroes and look at the Size, then You know whether it compresses B)
< 1447343290 297462 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/zer/Zer/
< 1447343319 936142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMM, POSSIBLE
< 1447343324 506157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1447343326 401522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, possible
< 1447343329 463115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that
< 1447343379 877309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, doesn't compress. and still says "Compressing"
< 1447343402 798198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compression part of 7z is nice, but the command-line UI needs severe reworking. 
< 1447343409 593728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the only problem I have with the UI.
< 1447343565 579193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: In a case like that, I normally wouldn't align, but if I did, I'd left-align both strings and numbers. But that's strictly personal preference.
< 1447343565 727897 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send Patches
< 1447343618 495793 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :left align strings, right align numbers
< 1447343663 928244 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we're talking about tables
< 1447343676 902441 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then left align left-most column, right align all the other columns.
< 1447343714 691527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about point-aligning numbers? 
< 1447343741 823659 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats should be right-aligned and point-aligned
< 1447343742 845906 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1447343770 893615 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you use a fixed amount of decimal points then right-aligning them is the same thing?
< 1447343789 556583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45334&oldid=45332 5* 03179.185.170.155 5* (-140) 10/* Constants */
< 1447343792 43219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. Are there any fonts with variable-width digits? 
< 1447343820 355952 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume so
< 1447343856 339368 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :„Are there“-Questions sorta suck in our infinite Multiverses ;)
< 1447343881 224287 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something does not exist, somebody has already created it in this or other Galaxies
< 1447343889 434989 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nothing does _not_ exist
< 1447343896 454859 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably.
< 1447343897 673746 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox ♥
< 1447343905 847370 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I'd kill you for using those fonts.
< 1447343926 728372 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not care because there exist an infinite Number of Clones of myself ;=P
< 1447343940 837273 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i still have a Fetish for fixed Fonts
< 1447343949 597390 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i am lucky even in _this_ current Multiverse ;)
< 1447343956 767509 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a fetish for simple websites .
< 1447343959 190498 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fixed/fixed-Size/
< 1447343970 485710 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Website is quite simple
< 1447343985 451666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a lot of Words with Capital Letters, at least? 
< 1447343992 806660 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://md.mroman.ch/ <- I started to switch all my sites to this exact same CSS
< 1447344021 987902 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://apic.name does not even use CSS
< 1447344038 331066 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally you wouldn't use CSS, yes
< 1447344043 541868 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1447344044 195386 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but browsers usually have a sucky default CSS imo
< 1447344048 316990 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1447344056 50007 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :headings are way too large in my opinion
< 1447344070 225365 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having the page width 100% of the window per default
< 1447344076 274887 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks stupid on wide screens
< 1447344077 935520 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1447344085 22621 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better to not use the full width.
< 1447344113 943683 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1447344116 678257 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du bist Deutscher?
< 1447344121 216654 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ja
< 1447344222 524540 :andrew__!~andrew@14.152.94.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447345633 562433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Jace the only character who has six or more Planeswalker cards representing them?
< 1447345675 70587 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that's how I would align it, FWIW
< 1447345681 111500 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1447345773 517398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Chandra has five, Garruk has five)
< 1447345992 169862 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still struggling with the formal proof for the df constants
< 1447345996 173691 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they intuitively make sense
< 1447346002 217049 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how to proof it formally :(
< 1447346036 157200 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally I can show that numbers of the form n^{2m} can in fact be reached fastest
< 1447346210 125471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute. if you tell Firefox to always use my fonts, not allowing webpages to override them, then it still downloads font from the web and uses them for the page as a fallback for characters that aren't in the font I specificed but are in other fonts I have installed on my system?
< 1447346217 885395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this look crazy only to me?
< 1447346322 441900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45335&oldid=45307 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+216) 10/* Page removal request */
< 1447346609 321172 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://md.mroman.ch/blog/2015-11-12.html <- that's what I've got so far :(
< 1447346704 99841 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing left is to prove that if n^2m < x < n^2(m-1) then the fastest way is to go to whichever is nearest and use i or d
< 1447346734 423117 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447346954 386883 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1447346972 980703 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably just need to show, that any number between those can not be reached in less than n+m steps
< 1447347364 104293 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447347938 925256 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1447348193 51079 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under what sort of conditions will n^2m < x < n^2(m-1)?
< 1447348212 964484 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: your math is wrong. repeated squaring gets you to n^(2^m). Also, you should simply aim for the closest square number, so one of n^2 < x < (n+1)^2.
< 1447348217 353769 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447348282 268532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignoring the nasty case of 256).
< 1447348367 910218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 isn't even that nasty. For numbers 256^4 and up, it's still better to go to 256^2 and square it.
< 1447348371 463809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: when n is purely imaginary
< 1447348372 44428 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A useful fact is that if df(x) is the smallest number of operations to reach x from 0 in deadfish, then |df(x) - df(x+1)| <= 1, still ignoring the 256 complication.
< 1447348417 165921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is simply because you can get from x to x+1 by a single operation, and vice versa.
< 1447348488 118816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't give very useful bounds, though, since df(x) = Θ(√x).
< 1447348497 360479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the thing is, repeated squaring is a very infrequent case. you're far more likely to end up with small adjustments after each squaring.
< 1447348534 367879 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh. right.
< 1447348542 149982 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^(2^m)
< 1447348562 82345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's a useful lemma because it bounds the different of the costs for reaching n or n+1 in n^2 < x < (n+1)^2, and also shows that except for very small x, aiming for a smaller or a larger square cannot possibly help.
< 1447348572 464554 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference
< 1447348644 42220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the < should be <= of course ...)
< 1447349831 948514 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447350174 996183 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: jace is the most promiscuous planeswalker hth
< 1447350317 656449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and he's a memory mage, he made sure he has good publicity by ensuring everyone always remembers him while they forget the other planeswalkers
< 1447350362 950883 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he even made sure Teferi got such a ridiculously forgettable planeswalker card, because Jace saw him as a potential rival, being the same color. 
< 1447350499 517728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Teferi is delayed in revenging on him, because his ovinomancer powers extends only to creatures, and unlike some planeswalkers, Jace isn't so stupid as to turn to a creature planeswalker.
< 1447350652 97024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jace even ensured everyone remembers him by getting into the flavor text of a lot of spells.
< 1447351472 988256 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1447351584 450008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447353663 500313 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447354117 920088 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447354292 365525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not dislike the default CSS of the browser. However, if the user does not like it then he should modify it.
< 1447354371 976720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put in your own CSS to not use the full width or for whatever, then I would have to override it per each site to force it to use the full width of the window.
< 1447356056 328011 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447356917 320097 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447356918 248544 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow
< 1447357067 749127 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu
< 1447357197 203508 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya
< 1447357282 877611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing
< 1447357297 784981 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on Getchl right now and am still looking for feedback
< 1447357312 705785 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone feels like clicking the link and telling me what they think...
< 1447358442 492583 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the tldr version?
< 1447358574 144693 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: There isn't an abbieviated version, unless you don't care about the commands in which case the Wiki has that on the Getchl page
< 1447358595 273405 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's *eight* pages -_-
< 1447358610 290566 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :of arbitrary associations between actions and keys
< 1447358628 22359 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447358742 111725 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447358753 785945 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Some of them are based on the traditional meanings (:=dup), some based loosely on meanings in other languages (;=halt), and some are just chosen because they look like they should mean that (@=loop)
< 1447358781 327671 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letter ones are either mneumonics (r=read), and 0-9 and A-F are Hex codes
< 1447359045 974615 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, it /is/ 8 pages. All printable ASCII characters, plus a number of variant commands, and a list of useful mneumonics
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< 1447359372 506276 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1447359382 228511 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1447360445 6722 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447361079 102704 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447361590 218608 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-juejczcnodlaneoj QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1447361656 587445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew, I was writing a completely stupid statement in my program. good thing the compiler caught it.
< 1447361667 146311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :const++
< 1447361730 327433 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447361916 514814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like, I was writing several stupid statements
< 1447362519 145066 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447363123 321759 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447363723 77706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Unicode/Potential Meanings14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45336 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+755) 10Created Page
< 1447363798 584720 :user!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447363810 90324 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtashhbqzfayyoli QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1447363821 407416 :user!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 NICK :Guest52752
< 1447364072 67385 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447364655 267038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45337 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+2080) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Greentext |author=[[Jfeng41]] |year=[[:Category:2015|2015]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] |refimpl=[https://github.com/jfeng41/..."
< 1447365336 766016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45338&oldid=45337 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+206) 10
< 1447365455 355008 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1447365465 854841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45339&oldid=45338 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+22) 10
< 1447365487 779203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45340&oldid=45339 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (-2) 10
< 1447365496 358257 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome
< 1447365497 703192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1447365595 100112 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1447365621 24888 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble finding some ideas to name my esolang
< 1447365639 113754 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :name it Guest52752 
< 1447365652 94693 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a memorable name is important
< 1447365655 695037 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447365662 377842 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, I'll do it
< 1447365665 167965 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1447365688 52910 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on
< 1447365692 146418 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't leave
< 1447365694 369396 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 NICK :Mrlemons
< 1447365702 915715 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447365716 474476 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding!!
< 1447365719 616061 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.109 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447365740 671276 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a turing tarpit with only two characters
< 1447365758 890535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one?
< 1447365787 942252 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of
< 1447365809 781609 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1447365810 606369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45341&oldid=45340 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+9) 10
< 1447365880 886162 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttctc - turing tarpit containing two characters
< 1447365922 695246 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tttc two characters turing tarpit
< 1447365929 849476 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1447365932 598054 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1447365932 746729 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tctt
< 1447366026 979765 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttctt you mean?
< 1447366033 337373 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you intended it to be recursive
< 1447366087 38285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tar
< 1447366087 989160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447366089 637860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tarpit
< 1447366090 882983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarpit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447366258 804126 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which tar
< 1447366259 452959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/tar
< 1447366262 875644 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1447366413 575901 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447366524 300787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The tapeworm is the bane of tape libraries. Its natural enemy is the tape archiver, tar.
< 1447366527 495471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tapeworm': The tapeworm is the bane of tape libraries. Its natural enemy is the tape archiver, tar.
< 1447366631 410346 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :google cats scared by cucumbers
< 1447366637 209727 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now
< 1447366640 596018 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it
< 1447366643 681012 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wait here
< 1447366654 554307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hold your breath
< 1447366697 131816 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't breathe anyway
< 1447366784 911480 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that oxygen has a 100% killing rate
< 1447366933 986504 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 7% of people have not yet died despite being exposed to 21% O2 in the atmosphere almost all the time.
< 1447366975 426078 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :give 'em some time
< 1447367008 570265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will, but you have no proof that that will work.
< 1447367239 833392 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet your $dayjob is lobbyst for a tobacco firm
< 1447367343 71828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1447367387 726500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'll add this: I was speaking mathematically; scientifically you seem to be on the safe side.
< 1447367660 570136 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447367985 676951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447368149 938640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is moving backward in time
< 1447368190 379796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am?
< 1447368247 155343 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447368251 427259 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, last time I saw you join it was after midnight, and now it's before midnight (local time, here)
< 1447368262 937406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you referring to me being constantly backlogged (approx. 2 months for the wiki and /r/haskell)
< 1447368271 43787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1447368277 342362 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447368384 157885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: today i shopped just before the shop closed at 11, so had to go home a bit early to reach it.
< 1447368412 490746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how early do you usually go home
< 1447368417 271747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :home from where
< 1447368436 108096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 (12 on weekends), because that's when the restaurant closes
< 1447368466 335147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when my sleeping cycle is enough different that i'm asleep then
< 1447368506 894647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinion of some of my ideas about improvement to make for SQLite?
< 1447368531 441149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the ideas.
< 1447368623 383423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/sqlext
< 1447369189 117922 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much of the sqlite internals but where is the button that produces chocolate chips
< 1447369242 37366 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :god someone tell me the truth behind design patterns already
< 1447369282 480035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I don't know!
< 1447369295 936797 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447369309 38616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I think SQLite does not have the button to produce chocolate chips.
< 1447369331 700243 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being forced to use ~the observer pattern~ and also ~MVC~, to make a space invaders clone in c++
< 1447369338 182841 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WTF
< 1447369342 876847 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW CAN THIS BE
< 1447369405 145388 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, maybe you can submit a patch
< 1447369415 753953 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the non lite version have them?
< 1447369424 856739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would need some other equipment to produce chocolate chips, but if you would want to you might be able to make SQLite extension to drive such a machine.
< 1447369452 841762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: the observer pattern is required to collapse the wave function hth
< 1447369474 335329 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :: D
< 1447369505 283845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: There is no "non lite" version, although there is a paid version that adds support for encryption and compression (you can still do these things with the free version too although you would have to implement such a VFS yourself unless someone else has already made such a free VFS for such purpose); it doesn't add chocolate chips though
< 1447369550 407679 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: what happens if you apply the observer pattern to a heated kettle of water (or milk)?
< 1447369600 126607 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :...who puts milk in the kettle?
< 1447369602 176238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many things can be done with extensions, although some things should need to be applied to the core in order to work properly (except for json_aggregate which would be applied to an existing extension and not to the core)
< 1447369612 742449 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably object-oriented programmers
< 1447369669 104238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An extension can implement a virtual table module, although there are some things that virtual tables currently do not do; I suggested what improvements could be made.
< 1447369699 102047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much of what I wrote is only about the public API and not about the internals anyways (although the internals clearly would need to be modified in order to implement such things).
< 1447369967 245083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :has oerjan come unstuck in time?
< 1447370410 971018 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447370531 37071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :bongiornoily
< 1447370711 984098 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :buongiornoily*
< 1447370770 673862 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ach
< 1447370775 219393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to step up my Italian
< 1447370785 888081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean, I need to actually learn Italian
< 1447371076 352310 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :inglourious basterds is not enough?
< 1447371199 289262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle!
< 1447371210 626435 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(safely addressing you in the vocative case.)
< 1447371217 35192 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora!
< 1447371339 47570 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\, b_jellonas, chelloppro, ellodwardk, Firellofly, fizziello, fungellot, Greghellor, int-ello, J_Arcanello, Jafellot, lifthellorasiir, helleu, Hellymia, mhellauris, Mellolvar...
< 1447371404 705644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello, nellortti, hellocharles__, hellørjan, hellolsner, Phantom_Helloover, pikhelloq, QUINTHELLOPIA, Sgello, hellochaf, shellokhin, trellomp, tswellott, hezzo38!
< 1447371511 432849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I learnt Italian, I could ask my information theory teacher to tutor me in his native language, which he can't possibly be less eloquent in
< 1447371558 663173 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would you be able to do so in time?
< 1447371595 146001 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian is easy
< 1447371608 403849 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add o at the end of each word
< 1447371613 322965 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian -> italiano
< 1447371644 584954 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :next, wanna try spanish?  add s at the end of each italianized word
< 1447371648 542389 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian -> italianos
< 1447371808 133582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Portuguese?
< 1447371831 934935 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nji at the end
< 1447371872 668366 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even exaggerating that much
< 1447371977 228594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nji?
< 1447371998 331921 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for Norwegian, you add in some ø I guess...
< 1447372004 341245 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :italianøsnji.
< 1447372301 334022 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1447372332 993391 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.
< 1447372399 77959 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447372944 573672 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447373195 153020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bouena notte
< 1447373207 325897 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, buona* maybe
< 1447373232 409332 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, buona notte. darn, the one phrase I learned in Italian, and I forgot it
< 1447373900 245728 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447373951 131169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had an idea for an update for WalText2
< 1447374073 486645 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone's curious
< 1447374097 495460 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about... izabera?
< 1447374117 47566 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what it is
< 1447374152 578123 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? waltext
< 1447374153 715082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waltext? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447374155 11717 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? waltext2
< 1447374155 949511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waltext2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447374160 95939 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does HackEgo 
< 1447374160 535295 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a vector font renderer for my own custom format. I made it for WalrusOS, which is an EsOS
< 1447374196 377995 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you seem to have an unhealthy affinity towards walruses. walrii. walrusseses.
< 1447374207 743871 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn waltext2/WalrusOS's vector font renderer. See "WalText2i" for the improved version.
< 1447374210 457714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «waltext2»
< 1447374222 757359 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? waltext2i
< 1447374223 467093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waltext2i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447374223 698081 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I very much do. What's your point.
< 1447374228 418820 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Not created yet
< 1447374237 109509 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WalText2i is the update I had an idea for
< 1447374258 940638 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :walrusi
< 1447374276 554727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: chickens are better, nah!
< 1447374285 997919 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In WalText2, you create forms by declaring points (and other significant numbers) that it should be drawn based on. A line might be written as "LINE 0 0 15 12"
< 1447374317 620652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that has some syntactic problems; namely, in "0 0 15 12", there's nothing associating "0 0" and "15 12" as x/y points.
< 1447374344 183041 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know how complex numbers can be represented as a point in the complex plane?
< 1447374366 703457 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went there. I have no regrets.
< 1447374408 375542 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm kind of tempted to self-quote those last two lines, but I'm afraid of looking arrogant)
< 1447374437 861725 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: So yeah. That's a bit eso, I suppose, but not really /that/ eso, as I'm just dealing with syntax.
< 1447374442 679154 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On to the next feature:
< 1447374456 236413 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expressions. Not only that, expressions that can have randomness associated with them.
< 1447374487 509532 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for example, you can use the complex conjugate of a number to make sure things line up. You can add points together.
< 1447374590 163134 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's random about that?
< 1447374594 383174 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can use the ~ binary operator to choose a random integer. 0~3 chooses a random number between 0 and 3 (inclusive) for you, so you can emulate human error in your fonts (the numbers are chosen on each drawing, so the tidle of an i or j might be in a different position on each letter)
< 1447374606 82987 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That's not the random part, the other part's the random part
< 1447374667 332163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inefficient, perhaps (I'll probably add an option in the renderer to cache the expression results which would derandomize the positions, but run faster)
< 1447374679 234107 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd be pretty cool
< 1447374693 988498 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like most existing fonts, what makes you think that generating them randomly is such a good idea?
< 1447374719 150043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you want to prerender then?
< 1447374770 467404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: You aren't generating them randomly exactly; you're allowing the font designer to make slightly more random positioning to make the letters look more varied. Not good for, say, monospace, but good if you want to make a less uncanny valley comic sans
< 1447374775 45676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that can be done is if you want to render to PK or GF, an option to render each character multiple times
< 1447374806 265966 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll probably do that if I make a PK or GF converter for WTII
< 1447374819 619150 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Define prerender for me. I'm a noob at rendering, so I'm just fumbling around here
< 1447374877 359928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To convert into PK or GF you need to prerender everything in the intended output device's resolution, so the source file will still be needed if you want to be able to use it with multiple resolutions
< 1447374914 630438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also you need only one of PK or GF; you can easily convert between them using "pktogf" and "gftopk" programs)
< 1447375039 443254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : italianøsnji. <-- italiensk hth
< 1447375137 124504 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah. If you want to prerender, it just chooses a random number on load and sticks with it.
< 1447375146 12390 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/load/compiling/
< 1447375165 657602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn waltext2/WalText2 is WalrusOS's vector font renderer. See "WalText2i" for the improved version.
< 1447375169 125608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «waltext2»
< 1447375201 617286 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  italianøsnji. <-- italiensk hth <-- it may be so in the Real Worlds, but it's not as interesting :)
< 1447375209 334381 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Couldn't come up with a joke when I was making that xD
< 1447375222 439450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s,s\,,\,,
< 1447375270 933341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nji isn't particularly norwegian.
< 1447375297 928190 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik, it's Portuguesish.
< 1447375315 472942 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides behind izabera

< 1447375318 795205 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: døn't you sæy
< 1447375392 377014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or snj, really, although there are enough norse names starting with nj that you could imagine it in a compound.
< 1447375414 291908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT does the same, it choose a random number on load (although you can specify the random number seed explicitly if wanted, too)
< 1447375436 549515 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] == knuth undercover
< 1447375500 408900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use any random numbers in your METAFONT input file, then the log file will include the random number seed in use so that you can repeat the same results again if you want to do so.
< 1447375511 976774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: knuth doesn't waste time by coming on #esoteric, he just asks esr and ais523 to do the work for him
< 1447375528 766886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to
< 1447375528 915677 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains so many things
< 1447375531 877734 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met Hoare the other day
< 1447375542 144202 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoare?
< 1447375547 956257 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author of quicksort
< 1447375555 810182 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that Hoare
< 1447375570 632143 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That Hoare.
< 1447375578 882444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't keep track of all the famous people in CS.
< 1447375583 963102 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He presented a public lecture at my university
< 1447375593 16697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :About Pioneers of Computer Science
< 1447375604 429537 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... had Euclid as the second-most recent (spoilers)
< 1447375611 491532 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence my topic of thought 23 hours ago
< 1447375626 678910 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started it with a slide that just said "YOU'RE ALL NOOBS COMPARED TO ME"
< 1447375637 513179 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seemed a really nice guy
< 1447375638 389179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb
< 1447375643 715350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a pooch
< 1447375667 483608 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No but my parents have one and my brother has a puppy
< 1447375723 47307 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe esr and ais523 are the same person...
< 1447375743 930222 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I know esr?
< 1447375781 606629 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eric S. Raymond.
< 1447375795 827180 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a person who comes on IRC?
< 1447375824 230983 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on this channel but he probably spen(ds|t) a fair amount of time on irc
< 1447375849 402952 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah, fair enough
< 1447375870 490427 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also shame on you for not knowing him
< 1447375880 493338 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not good at names
< 1447375892 767434 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know my own name because I come from a clan of supervillains
< 1447375912 589518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb doesn't sound like a supervillain name
< 1447375935 295776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :his real name is Nathan van Doom hth
< 1447375948 118497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo keming)
< 1447375960 613422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, he's the crazy right-wing open source guy
< 1447375977 442061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the creator of C-INTERCAL.
< 1447376006 540727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that guy!
< 1447376007 707225 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stallman's arch enemy
< 1447376020 500230 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where the name was familiar from!
< 1447376080 408152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, Nathan van Doom is approximately my name
< 1447376369 669783 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doom doom doom ♪
< 1447376371 494284 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting a league of people who are almost supervillains
< 1447376384 430037 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's got me and a Mr Mascetti
< 1447376465 321318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian -sen names aren't very good for supervillainery :(
< 1447376489 368662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't your name the Norwegian equivalent of George Johnson
< 1447376496 177306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447376557 750241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very villainous at all
< 1447376566 121396 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bystander name at best, I am afraid
< 1447376567 835562 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :george johnson by day, evil baron von terroristan by night
< 1447376592 300268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well one of the equivalents.  Georg Hansen, Jørgen Jonsen, Jørn Johannesen ...
< 1447376628 766273 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Georges Fitzjean?
< 1447376657 939801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about norwegian-sounding equivalents here, boily 
< 1447376675 861611 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not oerjanequivalents. my bad.
< 1447376695 756502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure they're all cognate to my name
< 1447376697 632793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were translating to other scandinavian languages.
< 1447376747 561363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that would be Göran Johansson and Jørgen Jensen
< 1447376757 58087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot jensen, that's norwegian too
< 1447376763 856181 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jensen?
< 1447376769 313002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more stereotypically danish
< 1447376775 965276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first name directly translates as 'ruler of the world' so as a child i felt like i had some heavy expectations heaped on me
< 1447376799 466503 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what language does it mean that?
< 1447376813 227657 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of parents..
< 1447376834 414562 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My last name is watson and someone always makes a sherlock holmes joke
< 1447376848 36157 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :elementary \oren\ 
< 1447376861 914158 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that one...
< 1447376862 844880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: gaelic afaiu
< 1447376885 646440 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy, I also want a gaelic name
< 1447376889 683757 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm cataloging common meanings for characters (e.g. $ in stacky languages means DROP)
< 1447376902 844618 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC mine means dove, which is p. boring
< 1447376909 580024 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :X in english means X
< 1447376913 400255 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine means "gift"
< 1447376923 936758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Gift from God, to be exact
< 1447376930 937434 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1447376932 712968 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that's Jonathan
< 1447376938 433666 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is not my name
< 1447376941 489016 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to decide whether to sort the pages primarily by Unicode block or by language type
< 1447376958 279254 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm a Nathan too, and I'm pretty sure it means Gift from God, from the last time I checked
< 1447376961 170463 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I had a very distant relaive called Natan (I think he spelled it that way)
< 1447376964 295096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it varies by nation xD
< 1447377001 60228 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I protect men, according to my name.
< 1447377013 130928 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So which should I sort it by?
< 1447377040 500542 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is anyone curious about my 8 pages of arbitrary character-to-procedure associations for Getchl yet? xD
< 1447377055 862548 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :focus on actually developing it
< 1447377061 339706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], apparently it can be translated has "He has given"
< 1447377075 122121 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :With He being God
< 1447377092 134224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hebrew is not a language I am familiar with
< 1447377092 947786 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Getchl or the Unicode Blocks? I already developed most of getchl and am just procrastinating initial testing.
< 1447377127 124750 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents called me "Nathan" because they didn't know any Nathans
< 1447377148 212209 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think that's what my parents went with too; look for a name that isn't used as much
< 1447377169 663770 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they kept meeting Nathans all over the place
< 1447377172 33904 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe that was my third cousin's parents. Definitely them, but maybe my parents too
< 1447377172 946960 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of my dad died and that's how i got my name
< 1447377181 799474 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That tends to be how it works.
< 1447377185 123043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The florist at my christening was called Nathan
< 1447377202 971393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother got his name because my parents looked at him and thought he looked like a Benjamin
< 1447377225 552712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember my parents saying they consulted some family member who spoke irish to make sure they used the least pronouncable spelling
< 1447377226 751295 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think I'll sort the pages primarily by language type
< 1447377236 683452 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Really? That's awesome.
< 1447377245 914608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you say so, donald
< 1447377256 966306 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty eso
< 1447377282 583267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is it still pronounced the same btw
< 1447377286 882970 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no
< 1447377292 327137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rhymes with 'tonal'
< 1447377308 800289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1447377694 23317 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, how did you end up as "Phantom_Hoover", if I may ask?
< 1447377731 327701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was funny when i was about twelve, i think
< 1447377896 812639 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have my grandpa's name, but with a fresh 90s twist to its spelling!! it's quite uncommon
< 1447377929 219641 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris, my dad has a variant of his uncle's name
< 1447377934 106825 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but ever so hip"
< 1447377957 648846 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maurice?
< 1447378009 635707 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah. then my parents botched the -ce and decided putting an 's' there was The Future
< 1447378034 590519 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Future is Now!
< 1447378092 497597 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447378181 946736 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should change my legal name to include this caret IMO
< 1447378207 798068 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris^: mauris: Definitely
< 1447378305 945840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman  but I don't know how to proof it formally :( <-- look at the position of the last s, minimize the part before, and use the fact that optimal representations of two neighboring representatble numbers cannot differ by more than 1 in length
< 1447378306 132865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1447378481 221159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris^: wait i assumed it was some flemish variant of mauritz
< 1447378503 554536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it pronounced flemish or french
< 1447378522 247316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45342 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1626) 10New language time! This one a reincarnation of UniLang
< 1447378609 720389 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it's a unique variation on the French 'maurice'! It's pronounced the Flemish way, [mo'RIs] where R is your favourite r consonant
< 1447378644 301772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't the flemish agree on what R is?
< 1447378697 601249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the norwegians don't either fwiw)
< 1447378716 452214 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Some say [r] and some say [UPSIDE DOWN R HERE THANKS]
< 1447378722 872279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45343&oldid=45342 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+52) 10Added an optional reader head to the data model
< 1447378730 438141 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the latter camp, I.e. Uvular trill
< 1447378749 602579 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terrifying sound, I hear
< 1447378777 982940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trill or flap?
< 1447378792 432345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter is less terrifying)
< 1447378796 949693 :mauris^!uid48655@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nsyivrlitscfpths PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trill!
< 1447378797 318815 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45344&oldid=45343 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-11) 10Removed comments from the grammar, as they should be handled by the lexer
< 1447378860 222407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, apparently the English don't either. I can pronounce r in two ways that sound identical to me but feel different (and are in fact different)
< 1447378920 4524 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know which one you're pronouncing?
< 1447378927 771387 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different mouth shape
< 1447378952 857831 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is strictly speaking a [ʋ]
< 1447378975 829569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait portuguese has uvular rs?
< 1447379992 592380 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just made IF and WHILE operators
< 1447380030 513646 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(? and @)
< 1447380184 410957 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both work by evaluating their second argument contingent on their first
< 1447380317 707160 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447380538 913299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45345&oldid=45344 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+189) 10Lists and sets; empty available
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< 1447380742 925804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45346&oldid=45345 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+87) 10Bools, rearranged EBNF
< 1447380905 123736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you output TFM/GF/PK from a font program, one thing that needs to be done is to calculate a checksum. The algorithm you use to calculate it is unimportant, as long as it does not depend on the device resolution or any random numbers or the file format used for output. Zero may also be used if you do not need or want a checksum.
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< 1447381074 52621 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone read the ADDI page yet?
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< 1447381145 864071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will look now.
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< 1447382347 243836 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This language is turning out nicely
< 1447382361 370392 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I take it you were too disgusted by the google docs link to check?
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< 1447382498 933223 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If I ever get my hands on a website, I promise to publish future documents as OpenOffice.
< 1447382509 6920 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps as PDFs
< 1447382516 645636 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Exported from GDOCs)
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< 1447382817 816157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked only the wiki page, which does not say much and has no example programs.
< 1447382872 559952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well I haven't finished formulating the language yet
< 1447382901 350599 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The langauge is, essentially, a list of operator expressions. Not even functions are allowed.
< 1447383151 741774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45347&oldid=45346 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+473) 10Made page remotely close to good.
< 1447383293 146008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could see that in the description at least
< 1447383764 831074 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Read error: No route to host
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< 1447383900 58129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ADDI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45348&oldid=45347 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+351) 10Special variables, example programs, zzo38
< 1447384318 52608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a nanny mcphee-like language? One that encourages good programming practices by allowing you to do bad things, but having arbitrary and awful rules when you do
< 1447384482 829238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try
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< 1447384765 877004 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nah. Sounds boring, really
< 1447384809 103129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then don't try.
< 1447384824 201562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol zzo
< 1447384831 936707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you working on?
< 1447384948 333722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on DVI->PBM program.
< 1447385028 256797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other programs such as foo2zjs and so on can then be used to drive printers that use host-based printing.
< 1447385037 58519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbm is image file isnt it?
< 1447385083 868407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1447385120 156259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how host-based printing works; it needs to generate the picture on the computer and then send to printer.
< 1447385197 330485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The printer I now have does not support PCL so I am doing it this way instead; it can be useful for other printers and other purposes too though)
< 1447385440 786184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is pcl?
< 1447385494 721636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCL is a printer format for many Hewlett Packard laser printers, as well as some printers by other manufacturers too.
< 1447385615 86937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Do loop until failure or condition else14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45349&oldid=45250 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+34) 10Categorized
< 1447385810 74924 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Arithmetic while14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45350 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+341) 10Created Page as filler, really
< 1447385918 207993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goto-when14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45351 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+265) 10Created page as MOAR filler
< 1447386010 424164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1447386033 617805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not how we use the wiki...
< 1447386333 241205 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What? Creating stubby pages, or making filler pages (although the ideas were valid ones)?
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< 1447386489 624766 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Or do you mean that the pages aren't esolangs, but instead components that could be used for esolangs?
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< 1447390153 888905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect my program can work with troff as well, as long as you can make PK fonts. (This program does not require that the units of measurement match those of TeX; any units can be used, which is needed if troff is used since troff does not use the same units as TeX.)
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< 1447392956 816357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what fonts are needed to print man pages with grodvi?
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< 1447397139 143660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need a good name for DequeCLI
< 1447397242 566626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a SIGILL from _dl_x86_64_restore_sse from _dl_fixup from _dl_runtime_resolve from the following code:    fp = fdopen(pipefd[0/*read*/], "r");
< 1447397273 118881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is wrong? It only did that once; when I tried again I could not repeat the problem.
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< 1447398609 804310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Möbius14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45352 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1546) 10Started on design
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< 1447399556 651524 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently deadfish proofs are not so easy.
< 1447399564 335664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://46.4.207.77/deadfish-outline.pdf
< 1447399578 422528 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nearly got to int-e's lemma, though.
< 1447399698 816837 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what generates that?
< 1447399742 518032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i'm pretty sure the difficulty there isn't with deadfish hth
< 1447399778 939434 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The izabera theorem prover
< 1447399785 381656 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isabelle.in.tum.de/
< 1447399797 183157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't think that was his lemma.
< 1447399822 835381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, one of the numbers is supposed to be 1
< 1447399850 550000 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the one I didn't get to.
< 1447399895 771011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you're actually defining a metric there.
< 1447399926 747046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, int-e's lemma is just as special case of the last one there.
< 1447399936 143156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1447399945 165095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs brain

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< 1447400026 798658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: actually you just need that + costDF x y <= |y-x| if 256 is not between them
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< 1447403233 141489 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Jafet is an isabelle user
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< 1447408390 357856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8h 21m 24s ago:  but I don't know how to proof it formally :( <-- look at the position of the last s, minimize the part before, and use the fact that optimal representations of two neighboring representatble numbers cannot differ by more than 1 in length
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< 1447409968 569510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you know how to prove it formally? minimize the part before.
< 1447409969 237277 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: pastebin.ca is mind-bendingly slow for me in t? just an object that is in the classpath, ( require-library ' sisc/ libs/ srfi
< 1447410049 787115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Could you fix all bugs. Just, everywhere? 
< 1447410049 935670 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it can be done
< 1447410056 235890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good.
< 1447410077 198009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but keep the ascended bugs untouched please
< 1447410077 529764 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm a research assistant that writes models are usually a pain in the ass.... you got the pyc files for me? :)
< 1447410094 772967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, but you can generate them quickly with python anyway
< 1447410095 143418 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: room kill point, but my irc client stated to use 99% cpu idle box with nice -20
< 1447410113 286012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: right, there's your first bug you have to fix
< 1447410113 582613 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: lost some history and philosophy of r5rs. this makes me fnord is slow as shit
< 1447410141 712521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Maybe you should try an IRC client not written in Funge+ 
< 1447410145 489085 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but yes, could optimize it to fit cs stuff. :)
< 1447410566 79758 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447410689 70265 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447412317 984780 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You have been unproven.
< 1447412318 133470 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: your analogy is wrong.
< 1447412400 893652 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait.. it lost the philosophy of r5rs
< 1447412402 587228 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare it.
< 1447414669 703510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447415731 55189 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes fungot

< 1447415731 240848 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now to sleep. hope to see this
< 1447415740 38913 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime fungot
< 1447415740 187552 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for what does iterate walk code?
< 1447415755 803624 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime \oren\
< 1447415756 998882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for \oren\ is Fri Nov 13 06:55:38 2015
< 1447415788 751468 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: make the 'got answer to localtime twh
< 1447416698 892250 :andrew!~andrew@183.37.19.238 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447416741 504167 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.166.208 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447416961 444252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sometimes I answer it manually with ^raw.
< 1447416989 346467 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tw.
< 1447417000 318704 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1447417000 504913 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1447417012 323812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Your local time is currently GMT hth hand
< 1447417012 553850 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: check the topic in the minibuffer in erc. it's hard to get stuff from the front
< 1447417017 670747 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Any more details about that weird language 'or'?
< 1447417017 883907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: in case you're inside a loop when you wanna test 0 in mycology that is? :p
< 1447417039 193002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? internet
< 1447417040 270213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417046 91360 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? al gore
< 1447417047 137827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al Gore invented the algorithm.
< 1447417081 493518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet.
< 1447417084 226778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «al gore»
< 1447417086 473533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? al gore
< 1447417087 761097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet.
< 1447417089 262074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447417091 31693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo/Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex, thus killing it within a month. He was Doctor Mengele in his previous life, as evidenced by his norn experiments.
< 1447417102 449558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447417103 846473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote/Quotes are just elements of the quantum dilapidated bogosphere. See qdb.
< 1447417105 382347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fungot is no time for that
< 1447417112 877373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cennabite
< 1447417113 803295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cennabite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417117 522885 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb
< 1447417118 573493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also quoteformat
< 1447417118 722206 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cenobite
< 1447417118 870819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lotus
< 1447417119 637085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lotus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417119 785705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cenobite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417125 774883 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447417127 182947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wercome/エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ）
< 1447417130 317323 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447417131 649396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomgmodules/ZOMGMODULES is both a small blonde veterinarian and just modules over the ring of ZOMGs.
< 1447417146 254186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norn
< 1447417147 223283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417147 552097 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. Did you tanebvent the ZOMGMODULES?
< 1447417153 473535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pastel
< 1447417154 531909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417156 973438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pony
< 1447417157 122072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so
< 1447417158 1463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pony? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417159 207144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ponies
< 1447417159 791585 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you know what your duty is.
< 1447417160 306207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ponies? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417161 833841 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only d-modules
< 1447417174 71491 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I had the conflagrated in my mind.
< 1447417178 37126 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/them/
< 1447417196 169583 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cennobite
< 1447417197 102167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cennobite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417205 909631 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: only one 'n' I think.
< 1447417206 58162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cenobite
< 1447417207 45568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cenobite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417212 945362 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cennabyte
< 1447417214 53177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cennabyte? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417219 665438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, it's "Cenobite"
< 1447417219 985547 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cinnabar
< 1447417221 38428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinnabar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417230 845447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cinober
< 1447417231 756171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinober? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417240 263050 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NECKTIE CHICKEN
< 1447417253 823691 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul
< 1447417257 685850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cinnamon
< 1447417258 673417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinnamon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417268 275246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always miss him in the morning
< 1447417297 765263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? force
< 1447417298 613710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :force? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417302 931151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? awakened
< 1447417303 709673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awakened? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417364 505463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? star
< 1447417365 391186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :star? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417367 209493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wars
< 1447417368 271875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417370 449333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? war
< 1447417371 650685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :war? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417374 641592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? love
< 1447417375 497060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :love? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417419 33166 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447417507 209325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yoda
< 1447417508 166504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447417509 761457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yoda
< 1447417510 627421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: yoda: not found
< 1447417855 546376 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn yoda/Yoda's oration, disordered always.
< 1447417858 379225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «yoda»
< 1447418005 769567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper yodaism I don't think that is. End with the verb the sentence must.
< 1447418056 524065 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447418076 84075 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Jogurth
< 1447418077 39598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jogurth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447418109 692297 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Jogurth is the german word for a special kind of belt while doing Yoga.
< 1447418110 903012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jogurth is the german word for a special kind of belt while doing Yoga.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447418120 164431 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Jogurth is the german word for a special kind of belt worn while doing Yoga.
< 1447418121 168598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jogurth is the german word for a special kind of belt worn while doing Yoga.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447418771 680296 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447419136 911770 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447419215 676038 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447419395 747927 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447419434 482089 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A point that's good you make.
< 1447419521 683180 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn yoda/Yoda object-verb dialogue adopts.
< 1447419524 151605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «yoda»
< 1447419709 830939 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's even OSV.
< 1447420156 744819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ResPlicate14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45353&oldid=43846 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Truth-machine */
< 1447420603 368394 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447421179 550045 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1447421185 345701 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh QUIT :Changing host
< 1447421185 494195 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447421185 494269 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host
< 1447421185 642781 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447421401 281337 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lord of life and dash.
< 1447422726 451994 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447422782 910679 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447422855 861285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :subversion has reverse blame since 1.8 or since 1.9?
< 1447422919 452040 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447423028 237658 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.166.208 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447423034 460224 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447423045 593205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if only there was a way to find out when a feature was added)
< 1447423263 877279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.9 client, but requires 1.8 or later server
< 1447423426 87734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE HECK?
< 1447423477 448068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have stack space for this many nested problems when trying to fix another problem
< 1447423682 113525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? intrustion
< 1447423683 191529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intrustion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447423685 68207 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? intrusion
< 1447423685 995292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intrusion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447423772 26038 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447424016 44895 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447424136 509042 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447424152 134948 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't own the pineapple, you are the pineapple.
< 1447424177 127124 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also every time I read a pdf with large font this terminal font looks ridiculously small.
< 1447424286 43359 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447424390 567200 :the!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447424405 693866 :the!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hii
< 1447424406 911877 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome
< 1447424407 720801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//;  s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; }
< 1447424413 401259 :the!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 NICK :Guest56621
< 1447424436 7414 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/@
< 1447424438 131495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/@
< 1447424440 588843 :Guest56621!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1447424458 304169 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/relcome
< 1447424458 996297 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords
< 1447424466 824125 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wercome
< 1447424467 549666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//;  s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? wercome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "wercome"; }
< 1447424490 743363 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/?wercome
< 1447424491 609032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/?wercome: No such file or directory
< 1447424498 935722 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/?
< 1447424499 657358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \     then cat /dev/urandom; \     elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \     then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \     elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \     then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \     
< 1447424508 248458 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wercome
< 1447424509 137691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ）
< 1447424518 192018 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so welcomes are wisdoms
< 1447424532 816213 :Guest56621!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447424792 218488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45354&oldid=34878 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+62) 10/* Examples */
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< 1447424933 459366 :random_nickname!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a language without syntax?
< 1447424956 217513 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language isn't a language without a syntax and grammar?
< 1447425017 52025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45355&oldid=45234 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+120) 10/* Implementations */
< 1447425028 152159 :random_nickname!1fb2a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.178.160.145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i get the term 'syntax' right
< 1447425032 43016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45356&oldid=45355 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-1) 10/* Aubergine] */
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< 1447426387 673148 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :mromanes eunt domus!
< 1447426647 878127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i would say if there are no rules which the syntax must follow, then it is pretty much the same as no syntax
< 1447426694 837983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if there's no such concept as "a well-formed sentence"
< 1447426711 240303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that 3SP qualifies
< 1447426783 129008 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1447426785 394108 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then deadfish?
< 1447426790 338559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps any language consisting only of no-argument commands in which no commands need matching commands
< 1447426799 135441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadfish would probs qualify
< 1447426843 943002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ResPlicate may qualify, if one chooses to call it a "language"
< 1447426935 545955 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most 2D languages don't have requirements such as "brackets need to match"
< 1447426941 113721 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that qualifies as "no syntax" as well.
< 1447426982 906284 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "brackets need to match" is grammar, not syntax actually :)
< 1447427005 57465 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that distinction seems pretty blurry to me
< 1447427007 393898 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"isdo" are instructions, rest is comments is already a syntax
< 1447427017 626098 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know where exactly the line between syntax/grammar is.
< 1447427027 306729 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's an arbitrary line more or less.
< 1447427046 627965 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax is a subset of grammar
< 1447427049 658098 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for syntax is what the lexer uses, grammar is what the parser uses
< 1447427050 390026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dealing with word order
< 1447427055 395497 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually syntax is just a subset of grammar
< 1447427059 226272 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed.
< 1447427059 893298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1447427070 297238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :insisting that [ come before ] is syntax
< 1447427086 157253 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :insisting that every [ have a corresponding ] is grammar
< 1447427101 302201 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1447427123 758479 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer = ? digit ?, { ? digit ? }
< 1447427161 377428 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be equally well part of the syntax or the grammar
< 1447427197 442783 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :binExp = integer, "+", integer
< 1447427236 204398 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1447427237 928285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found someone saying "A grammar is a set of rules that define the syntax for a particular language."
< 1447427240 370938 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax defines terminal symbols
< 1447427244 522405 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar defines non-terminal symbols?
< 1447427311 767699 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even have now found a distinction between "syntax grammar" and "semantics grammar"
< 1447427343 910712 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447427349 459336 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax defines what a valid terminal symbol is, and the grammar defines how you can build non-terminal symbols out of terminal symbols
< 1447427455 971960 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although technically, integer wouldn't be a terminal symbol in this example?
< 1447427462 267907 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember the definition correctly :D
< 1447427479 995896 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :digit would
< 1447427481 865565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pragmatically, anyone who relies on a distinction between "syntactic" and "grammatical" had better say so and explain what they mean."
< 1447427497 499043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "lexical syntax" term is often used for that sort of syntax.
< 1447427576 372767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in some sense, any language that does not specify how you are allowed to arrange symbols is both syntax-less and grammar-less
< 1447427589 468610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(up to what constitutes a single symbol)
< 1447427589 842319 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also compilers will tell you "syntax error" if you have unbalanced brackets
< 1447427592 988108 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not "grammar error"
< 1447427595 84129 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore
< 1447427600 309558 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar does not exist, only syntax.
< 1447427609 530259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a grammar
< 1447427613 720599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which defines the syntax
< 1447427627 84461 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1447427637 308618 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but grammar would be on a semantical level then
< 1447427669 156498 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is presumably also a system (e.g. type system) to define semantic grammar
< 1447427676 21220 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terminal symbol is where you can find a ✈ symbol.
< 1447427763 3428 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bad pun symbol is where you can find oerjan's ===\___/ symbol
< 1447427770 717141 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think linguists have a different definition of syntax/grammar
< 1447427783 947384 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too different
< 1447427805 917310 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ich den Hund mag" is a grammatical error
< 1447427813 462272 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ich mag den Huhnd" is a spelling error.
< 1447427820 637419 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess spelling errors are syntax errors
< 1447427843 925529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a difference, yes
< 1447427875 434546 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a grammarian would not consider a spelling error to be a syntax error, since syntax is about the arrangement of words, not the symbols that constitute them
< 1447427890 902490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a programming language designer would consider it a syntax error
< 1447427903 102347 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1447427914 870602 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"esle" would be parsed as an identifier.
< 1447427918 412534 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say spelling error are lexical errors, and both lexical and grammar errors are syntax errors
< 1447427933 867895 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so depending on where you make the error it's actually not a syntax error but a semantical one
< 1447428022 630302 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well.. whatever
< 1447428032 859560 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not qualified to discuss this topic :D
< 1447428042 88718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cardinal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45357&oldid=19561 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+25) 10
< 1447428050 767055 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only qualified to discuss indentity functions.
< 1447428064 689458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something like diff -b that also ignores changes in whitespace at the start of line, but not in the middle of words
< 1447428067 689803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1447428071 697337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom diff
< 1447428072 863338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*diff*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory
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< 1447428685 51873 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.84 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447429211 545279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "hello ($_)"
< 1447429212 409736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello (bash)
< 1447429226 478150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/echo "hello ($_)"
< 1447429227 260868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello (bash)
< 1447429663 762781 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447431158 662836 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww, I don't pronounce "reform" like in the topic
< 1447431182 495978 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447431367 844947 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here was the Tony Hoare lecture I went to the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7DfbOuvOM
< 1447433095 513610 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite interesting
< 1447433560 220876 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the first field of a C struct reliably at the same address as the struct itself?
< 1447433609 106411 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447433609 254918 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
< 1447433609 254979 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447433752 486175 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this is how C implements subtyping.
< 1447433870 565393 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447434034 70991 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1447434133 161562 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Thank you. Hmmmm…
< 1447434186 974005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How some people writing C do that, more like.
< 1447434395 134279 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m writing code to discover things about C types, and pondering how much bootstrapping code in C I have to write.
< 1447434456 682058 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suspect this behaviour was standardised with that usage in mind.
< 1447434495 99113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. The common initial subsequence rule certainly was.
< 1447434578 609401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obligatory reference: C11 6.7.2.1p15: "A pointer to a structure object, suitably converted, points to its initial member (or [boring exception]), and vice versa."
< 1447434595 530288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The boring exception is about bitfields, which you can't point at.
< 1447434610 335226 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifhdlxsompvksljm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1447434749 594409 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. While I’m at it: What happens if a struct member is declared as: 1. a fixed-size array 2. a non-sized array?
< 1447434866 369000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's declared with a fixed-size array, you have an array of that size in the struct.
< 1447434885 583379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's declared as an array with no size specifier, it's a "flexible array member", which has various restrictions and special behavior.
< 1447434906 942540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g. it needs to be the last member, it's mostly ignored in considering the size of the structure except for possible padding, etc.)
< 1447434931 568620 :Lemon!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447434995 442922 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there might be padding/spacing in between struct members)
< 1447435014 216559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flexible array members are intended for stuff like  struct { size_t len; unsigned char data[]; }  where you'd like to have some extra cruft in the same chunk of memory.
< 1447435062 312540 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Right, which is why I need to have access to offsetof to get at any non-first member fully reliably.
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< 1447435194 886109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a { char x; }; struct b { char x; double d[]; }; int main(void) { printf("%zu, %zu", sizeof (struct a), sizeof (struct b)); }
< 1447435196 412281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 8
< 1447435206 677533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one case where the flexible array member actually makes a difference.
< 1447435448 384247 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447435530 565046 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, given an array of sometype, is its stride equal to align(sizeof(sometype),alignof(sometype)), where align(x, a) = min{y : y ≥ x ∧ a | y} ?
< 1447435681 541230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given an array of sometype, it's stride is equal to sizeof(sometype).
< 1447435703 389713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no padding inside an array.
< 1447435958 851158 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a { long long x, short y; }; int main(void) { struct a p[2]; printf("%zu, %td", sizeof(struct a), &p[1] - &p[0]); }
< 1447435970 402345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:25: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘short’ \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1447435984 527821 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a { long long x; short y; }; int main(void) { struct a p[2]; printf("%zu, %td", sizeof(struct a), &p[1] - &p[0]); }
< 1447435988 576443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16, 1
< 1447436003 311755 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so the size is inflated.
< 1447436010 554778 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1447436035 81039 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447436039 990931 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, the end of a struct is padded to its alignment?
< 1447436098 139593 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a { long long x; short y; }; int main(void) { struct a p[2]; printf("%zu, %td", sizeof(struct a), (void *)(&p[1]) - (void *)(&p[0])); }
< 1447436099 409215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16, 16
< 1447436104 273276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it could be padded "just because", too.
< 1447436108 939787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what you wrote isn't standard.
< 1447436131 955397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's using a GCC extension that defines sizeof (void) == 1, and pointer arithmetic on void * consistently with that.
< 1447436156 811605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use (char *)&p[1] - (char *)&p[0] to avoid a constraint violation.
< 1447436182 935037 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you normally can’t pointer-arithmetic on (void *)?
< 1447436191 842834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1447436213 153826 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sizeof(char) is guaranteed to be 1, yes?
< 1447436216 907623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1447436310 315422 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that what I’m doing doesn’t depend on gcc or clang being used in the first place …
< 1447436374 874294 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case it was unclear, I had thought the struct could be shorter so that its end wouldn’t be aligned.
< 1447436570 12259 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, thanks for the help, I’ll be sure to show up again for more questions.
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< 1447441648 453818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Data Models14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45362 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+139) 10Created Page
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< 1447444920 765520 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an interesting data model for a language
< 1447444925 840475 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have something for me to start with?
< 1447445319 536204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45363 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+776) 10Data Model
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< 1447447681 198227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you have an interesting data model for hppacilon[1]?
< 1447447681 520195 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 00:07 fizzie fnord fizbancolin man neksh
< 1447447688 75369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what?
< 1447447688 223910 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: your point being?
< 1447447695 834773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, no.
< 1447447696 37927 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://schematics.sourceforge.net/ guide/ lang/ lisp/ impl/ fnord
< 1447448003 55587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45364&oldid=45363 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2042) 10Δ commands
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< 1447448371 851385 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode needs Combinatorial Arrows instead of just a million arrowy codepoints
< 1447448445 10705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45365&oldid=45364 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+421) 10/* Commands */ MORE Δ
< 1447448478 736997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45366&oldid=45365 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */ Fixed formatting
< 1447448683 126011 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-65.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Arrow Markup Language is in order?
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< 1447453205 318712 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrorists in paris killed 18 people
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< 1447453658 285611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!
< 1447453789 707733 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read another headline that bumped the count to 40
< 1447453819 330790 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking horrifying
< 1447453995 233586 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋯  Unicode needs Combinatorial Arrows instead of just a million arrowy codepoints  ← I've always thought that a codepoint put between two characters to signify overstriking/combining would make sense
< 1447454010 343271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of having combining everything, you could have a(combine)^ for â
< 1447454036 670619 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially what backspace did back in the day with overstriking, except a font is free to use its own glyph for a(combine)^ rather than just literally overstriking it
< 1447454044 701898 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but overstriking could be used as a fallback
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< 1447456904 657466 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v
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< 1447459442 399624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be easily enough to do: In your font define one character to have a negative width and an empty glyph, and then define ligatures which can be use to have its own glyph for a(combine)^ if it has one.
< 1447459552 121741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to tamper with Unicode at all. My own idea about an advanced font metric format, you would be able to do these things, as well as implement the rules of Unicode too, and more.
< 1447459742 152433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have the metric file also be used to convert metrics into glyphs; the glyphs would be a separate format and can be independent of the metric format. Hyphenation is also separate, but may interact with metrics.
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< 1447460887 690806 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll develop a pseudo programming language made to help people learn programmatical thinking in an esoteric way
< 1447460911 97201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1447460934 148679 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or an RPG game engine. Or maybe they'll be merged.
< 1447461136 650320 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll merge them
< 1447461180 460171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merge them, how?
< 1447461230 812165 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll develop an RPG game engine with a pseudo programming language made to help people learn programmatical thinking in an esoteric way, hth
< 1447461772 955989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but such a character would be a good substitute for many existing unicode characters. My suggestion was that it should've been designed that way from the start IMO
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< 1447461839 491376 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And using negative width and an empty glyph would restrict it to only one font, and I don't think that would work at all with variable-width fonts?
< 1447461845 95419 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, I don't see how
< 1447461849 940292 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, a good idea
< 1447462002 980136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add kerns to make it work with variable-width fonts. While it is restricted to having the accent in the same font as the letter, you can still use it with multiple fonts otherwise.
< 1447462033 673817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the "(combine)" character also has to exist in that font too)
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< 1447462260 34105 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don’t think a character with such a squishy semantic would fly.
< 1447462290 896964 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you’d need to combine with ˆ, not ^, to get ̂.
< 1447462307 647428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, works for me
< 1447462341 681676 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have combining characters already; I don't see how a dedicated "combine" character is worse than separate dedicated "combining foo" characters that we currently have
< 1447462384 393924 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I proposed seems more flexible to me since in essence you get a combining version of every character for free
< 1447462406 855604 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: good point about kerning. That would work
< 1447462429 893492 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“for free”, hahahahaha!
< 1447462460 288449 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. Of course, if you want it to look good the font has to manually support it as a ligature and design a glyph for it
< 1447462463 300717 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's not "for free"
< 1447462508 161931 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean in the sense that you don't have to request Unicode to allocate a combining character and then wait for a new Unicode standard
< 1447462515 20837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In kind of format I was describing you could do with dedicated combining characters too, but in a fixpitch font you may certainly include a backspace character as well
< 1447462545 923450 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you do! You still have to wait for the new standard which says that this combination is now defined as thus …
< 1447462572 21048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my scheme you won't have to tamper with Unicode at all; you are not even required to use Unicode, although you can if you wish to, or even define an extension of Unicode in order to make it compatible with Unicode texts.
< 1447462580 237513 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Else your stuff just says “you can’t combine these two”.
< 1447462623 975651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, if you are using Unicode then you still need to define all of the relevant Unicode rules in the font metric file, that are applicable to your font (or use an include file, possibly)
< 1447462636 965653 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I suggested a fallback would be to just literally overstrike one glyph over the other (which would probably often not look good), and use something like ligatures for the ones supported
< 1447462653 241971 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternatively, you get fonts deciding differently what some combination should mean, which counters the whole point of standardization.
< 1447462685 92937 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how "a (combine) circumflex" could be interpreted as anything other than what's currently known as "a circumflex"
< 1447462720 651397 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: don't we have the same issue today with things like "(random CJK glyph) (combining circumflex above)" ?
< 1447462737 829305 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, worse, (emoji) (combining circumflex above)
< 1447462750 150003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: If you wish the fonts to be comatible then you will define the font according to some standard that is matching other font using, but some font there is no point to do such thing so you would just define your own instead.
< 1447462778 483383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, combining characters aren't restricted specially? and I can't imagine (all printables) × (all combining codepoints) are specified separately (× being cartesian product)
< 1447462789 915883 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we don’t have “right arrow (combine) up arrow” which could mean two things off the top of my head, and probably more.
< 1447462853 347160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, fair point
< 1447462855 399959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends much on what interoperability is required.
< 1447462863 49153 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare these two: ↲ ↵
< 1447462885 776728 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that "arrow down left" and "symbol for carriage return" or something?
< 1447462917 226334 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOWNWARDS ARROW WITH TIP LEFTWARDS and DOWNWARDS ARROW WITH CORNER LEFTWARDS, in fact.
< 1447462940 249900 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1447462957 973661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If needed, just to write the document, and the font can say it follows that document. Unicode is one such kind of document; it may not define all such thing but may define many things, and some fonts may be defined according to multiple document, or according to none at all if they require unique symbols or whatever reason you might not need any.
< 1447462967 588869 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both look like triangles to me (the arrowhead I mean)
< 1447462981 756771 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s additionally RETURN SYMBOL: ⏎
< 1447462993 751107 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference is in the proportion of the two sections.
< 1447463003 910330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447463019 10848 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one could have left arrow, short left arrow
< 1447463026 243177 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or long left arrow
< 1447463053 539255 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the latter of the two “may indicate a carriage return or new line”.
< 1447463244 384145 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, here’s ⤶ ARROW POINTING DOWNWARDS THEN CURVING LEFTWARDS which unlike those, curves instead of having a corner.
< 1447463272 64030 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll merge them
< 1447463276 853836 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, cat
< 1447463305 450744 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He stepped on the right of my keyboard, hitting "up" then "enter"
< 1447463479 420895 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447463689 622589 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lkhwgjgzmlcaggxi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447463924 874507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :RETURN SYMBOL seems to be hollow
< 1447464433 394053 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lkhwgjgzmlcaggxi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447464760 829972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman  except for syntax is what the lexer uses, grammar is what the parser uses <-- that sounds to me like almost the exact opposite of the natural language meaning
< 1447464760 986452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447464798 580180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman because there, syntax is how you place words, but _not_ how words are composed.
< 1447464798 732246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447464817 158293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lexer took 40 cakes
< 1447464822 878203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gregor
< 1447464823 930660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
< 1447465006 37133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, why do i have to @tell before finishing reading the conversation...
< 1447465388 292892 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ, paris is in martial law
< 1447465402 342055 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lquawxptcvivvoez JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447465413 740408 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom has been calling people she knows there
< 1447465424 230279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1447465459 791081 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've declared a curfew and  soldiers are searching the streets
< 1447465459 954297 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447465626 402216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard about stuff in Paris on the radio just few minutes ago
< 1447465639 807701 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got home
< 1447465668 828039 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom has just confirmed at least that everyone she knows in paris is safe
< 1447465710 563150 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lquawxptcvivvoez QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447465777 347830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, that's good
< 1447466027 493048 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1447466483 737838 :jaboja!~jaboja@erz108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1447467276 561819 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB
< 1447467276 850322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 140200Z 24011KT 15SM FEW015 OVC063 04/02 A2940 RMK SC1SC7 SLP959
< 1447467281 310678 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA
< 1447467281 634300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 140150Z 11005KT CAVOK M00/M03 Q0993 RMK WIND 670FT 14008KT
< 1447467287 611199 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: M00!
< 1447467386 172203 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIBOILY
< 1447467447 483937 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\HELLOREN\
< 1447467493 70380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks about right
< 1447467519 383785 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447467546 367251 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1447467568 313815 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ
< 1447467568 780848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 140200Z 30016G24KT 15SM SCT034 OVC059 04/M01 A2980 RMK SC4SC4 VIA CYOW SLP094
< 1447467581 257828 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-seybqjdfqczrvmja JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447467610 329640 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIA CYOW?
< 1447467860 161105 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447467910 911373 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot. can't find anything about "VIA".
< 1447467911 82753 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: from two different systems.
< 1447467921 913058 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it is so. Canadian METARs are weird.
< 1447467922 68747 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not just for angsty 14-year-olds anymore
< 1447467947 85792 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I haven't been 14 since twelve years ago.
< 1447467947 305657 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: out of curiosity, why would that matter?) it didn'
< 1447467963 726789 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: becose twelve years is a non-homeopathic span of time hth
< 1447467964 176392 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: haven't had anybody tell me where your source is at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/ viewcvs.py/ fnord but 404 on http://mitpress.mit.edu/ sicp/ this one?: check that first item of l1 is now size, and fills it with zeros?....
< 1447467976 902747 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CVS? on SF? uuuuuurgh!
< 1447468008 645558 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.fltplan.com/abbreviations.htm seem to be a good source, with substantially more abbreviations than what's available on wikipédia, but nothing about VIA.
< 1447468014 355361 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grmbls and mumbles and rants

< 1447468052 293425 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hah.
< 1447468085 9346 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait! it's there! "BY WAY OF". the bastards.
< 1447468097 924308 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhelloq. hah to you too :P
< 1447468134 107481 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is via Ottawa. there are federal clouds invading Toronto?
< 1447468183 937139 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you think Justing owns a weather machine and is controlling Ontarian climate?
< 1447468194 562782 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Junsting/Justin/
< 1447468922 831090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ResPlicate14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45372&oldid=45353 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Truth-machine */ The previous edit to this was a mistake.
< 1447469000 509193 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: DISPLACER CHICKEN
< 1447469489 99136 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.166.208 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447470572 712300 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a 10 years step back in international negotiations
< 1447470576 989859 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :every fucking time
< 1447470586 431347 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with the migrant crisis
< 1447470601 72970 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :great timing...
< 1447470692 642710 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :police reported all the attackers have been killed
< 1447470837 91660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, re. step back in international negotiations
< 1447470840 835811 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sad
< 1447470862 921311 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the consequences of this will be akin to those for 9/11 in some sense
< 1447470926 833866 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marine le pen might become the leader of france in the next election
< 1447471047 518532 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :France has an aircraft carrier and their own fighter jets. it's certainly not unthinkable that they could cooperate with putin to wipe out Daesh/ISIS/ISIL/WTFBBQ
< 1447471139 758115 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447471735 70933 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447471754 14119 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: NATO article 5 could be invoked
< 1447471760 114591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muslims should need to work to defeat them too
< 1447471811 447720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course everyone does but Muslims especially should go against ISIS/ISIL/Daesh
< 1447472210 299150 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any estimate of the number of people in those groups?
< 1447472337 804554 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found the answer on google and it's 200k

< 1447472436 897444 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I though muslims already were
< 1447472564 529611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably they are, yes. But what I am saying is everyone (whether Christian, atheist, etc) can go against them, but primarily it seem it would be job of Muslims. This way might result in being very defeated instead of just being defeated, or maybe I am unclear or confuse or something else
< 1447472848 757681 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between defeated and very defeated?
< 1447473100 653603 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't spin your defeat into martyrdom then you are very defeated. 
< 1447473124 612099 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: huh, I would guess a lot more considering how big a territory the control
< 1447473235 377743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I am not completely sure what it is nor do I know how to explain even if I do know, that is why I say I am a bit confused. But you other people on here are also making some points about it too; it isn't everything but they are some points too anyways.
< 1447473435 616605 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447473466 821673 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpNvGNRlFaE
< 1447473481 699554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45373&oldid=45354 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+29) 10/* Examples */
< 1447473561 3150 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i watching a video like that
< 1447473685 436167 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice isn't it? Celtic-style folk music
< 1447473703 523038 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they're much better than i thought at first
< 1447473768 632136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does this subreddit exist https://www.reddit.com/r/truetictactoe
< 1447473774 603619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a parody of game subreddits?
< 1447473804 804236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: nice
< 1447473872 452827 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even look like a parody
< 1447473891 222802 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, X was nerfed?
< 1447473931 130724 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueTicTacToe/comments/3gdw6x/im_new_here_can_someone_explain_me_all_the_rules/
< 1447473938 983001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IMO you really should watch about 50-60 hours of pro streams on twitch and read every guide on every forum, then get to where you can beat 2 insane/cheater AI at once before you even consider a real game. You're just going to frustrate everyone else around you."
< 1447473960 811146 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their headwear reminds me of moonbowmusicmovie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG7yuQ9MQ2s
< 1447473994 602174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some genuinely interesting things though
< 1447474021 326887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the SQL RPG engine?
< 1447474030 554867 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure CSS tic-tac-toe
< 1447474041 88060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they do a lot of acoustic arranges of videogame music too)
< 1447474050 104513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make RPG computer game with SQL, using the game engine program to support such thing
< 1447474051 948803 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, actually different source that gets compiled into CSS I think)
< 1447474097 78425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you might enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIV70shV8Sw
< 1447474432 347299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now my DVI->PBM program is working!!!
< 1447474475 925549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the goal of that?
< 1447474549 748089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean goal of such program?
< 1447474584 22690 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1447474585 146411 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447474667 715365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is to convert DVI into PBM.
< 1447474687 152639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One use of such a thing would be to print on printers that use host-based printing.
< 1447474691 570656 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can we do with temporal logic?
< 1447474696 643906 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447474711 992299 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do type systems correspond to logic systems? Anyone have a paper on that?
< 1447474736 280180 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wadler has a talk on.. er, not on that, but one slide has a table about that
< 1447474736 440347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I wanted to know that too.
< 1447474758 468098 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Whihc part? The first or the second?
< 1447474800 389229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, actually the part on temporal logic might've been something he mentioned was still an open problem
< 1447474840 228401 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I expressed what I was saying properly, correct? Like, I've heard that most languages are based on classical logic
< 1447474846 990696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: Both
< 1447474848 134856 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm curious how that works
< 1447474865 393270 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah. Temporal type system? I've heard that that's reactive programming
< 1447474871 720992 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe functional/reactive)
< 1447474885 391779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can it be explained how that works?
< 1447474900 510317 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOiZatlZtGU#t=40m30s has a table mentioning some different (logic, type system) pairs
< 1447474901 351867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard that too, but it does not explain how that is.
< 1447474922 183104 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any types of logic cooler than temporal logic?
< 1447474938 664906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear logic is p. weird
< 1447474952 532703 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least a lot more weird than its name would suggest
< 1447474977 602154 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Featuring concepts such as "of course" and "why not", I would say it might classify as an esologic
< 1447474980 554197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: most languages are based on _intuitionistic_ logic.  i'm pretty sure i mentioned that last this was discussed.
< 1447475003 154557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a certain value of "based"
< 1447475011 570119 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh right.
< 1447475022 276831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With classical logic, can make continuations too
< 1447475048 315041 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ the floating cloud video is interesting, as it continued it sounded more and more strange because it didn't have the structure I expected
< 1447475126 40452 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can logics be combined?
< 1447475145 747594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what way?
< 1447475156 578336 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Like, could Linear Temporal logic be a thing?
< 1447475213 920661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know
< 1447475263 904792 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_temporal_logic
< 1447475265 257660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep
< 1447475298 179472 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also heard of Quantum Logic
< 1447475310 320571 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is probabalistic logic a thing?
< 1447475409 866899 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1447475440 53158 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang idea: Type system based on Linear-Temporal-Quantum-Probabalistic Logic.
< 1447475533 240315 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combinatory, if I'm feeling like it.
< 1447475815 575304 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that might be a bit much
< 1447476012 917419 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any useful constructions that use Graph Theory as a "Foundations of Mathematics"?
< 1447476022 813044 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, arithmetic defined in terms of graphs?
< 1447476246 77278 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably define integers based on the length of lists (c.f. cardinality of sets), and lists without duplicates are a special case of graphs (straight-line graphs)
< 1447476278 889693 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if nothing else you could probably do it like that, but that's kinda boring
< 1447476508 74872 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try to make a language vaguely inspired by formal logic. Probably won't turn out very well, but I'm at least going to try.
< 1447476585 373429 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to mix various types of logic into a strange, homogenous, disgusting mesh.
< 1447476595 465340 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess is kind of in the spirit of this channel
< 1447477088 643577 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temporal Logic Programming?
< 1447477308 112571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: quantum logic is weird, i once looked at it from this perspective, but it has this strange orthomodular rule that simply doesn't fit in a sensible way.
< 1447477339 330496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is otherwise _very_ limited.
< 1447477363 445830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:Quantum computing14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45374 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+133) 10Created page because why the fuck did this not exist already
< 1447477367 692688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because any two things tend to be incompatible.
< 1447477400 993562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um i should have said this long ago, but you _do_ know we have a rule against creating categories without discussion, right?
< 1447477430 423800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was repealed in some part of my wiki backlog
< 1447477451 979716 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I did not think this needed discussion. We have >2 languages that are quantum, and quantum computing is, like, Esolangs taken seriously. But sorry.
< 1447477472 306820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do the fonts look better in my program than in xdvi? Is xdvi using PostScript fonts instead of bitmap fonts, or something else like that, or what else?
< 1447477497 443649 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you think we needed a category for quantum languages?
< 1447477617 509242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I believe it would be a good idea yes. However, the discussion for that is supposed to go on the wiki, I think.
< 1447477631 746848 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Fair enough.
< 1447477644 392123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Categorization to be precise
< 1447477654 138526 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right
< 1447477714 884045 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447477719 607321 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum Combinatory Logic?
< 1447477729 574447 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447477759 479250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
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< 1447477792 552282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that works.  the limits of quantum logic are to do with combining things...
< 1447477806 394178 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447477816 741279 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll MAKE it work >:)
< 1447477832 564023 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447477849 644407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :related to the heisenberg uncertainty in real physics ... you cannot measure all pairs of observables precisely
< 1447477850 964120 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447477859 805668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e_
< 1447477928 786082 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... how does normal probabalistic combinatory logic work?
< 1447477933 721422 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello_
< 1447477943 744719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea :P
< 1447477950 431769 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "-" is the "h" censored)
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< 1447478032 16157 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Shall I go invent that? Probabilistic turing machines are easier to understand than quantum turing machines, and once I get my head fully wrapped around CL being TC I'll know what I'm doing
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< 1447478120 475166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the types corresponding to quantum logic almost certainly wouldn't be the same as what a quantum computer can compute
< 1447478125 854542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is my hunch)
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< 1447478391 272754 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447478398 478918 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably there's some sort of R combinator
< 1447478409 935633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Rxy=xy|yx?
< 1447478499 413774 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like it ought to be Probabilistic enough xD
< 1447478521 735565 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm just not great with proofs and stuff yet xD
< 1447478727 570384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make up a esolang based on formal sequent calculus logic
< 1447478827 746905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And want to learn how to make the similar one with the sequent calculus of linear logic too
< 1447478942 284807 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447479730 185155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It look like my dvipbm program is not quite perfect yet; there are still a few more things to fix, such as I get spurious rules on a page somehow
< 1447479845 348388 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a ? combinator would be better, where ?xy=Ix|Iy
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< 1447479903 987966 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The probabilities are, of course, 50/50
< 1447479952 942323 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I originally thought of a C (or something) combinator where C=S|K|I, but then I realized that was utterly idiotic of me
< 1447480084 739668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ? is probably better than R. R is just stupid, AND can be defined as Rxy = S (S (K (S (K S) K)) S) (K K) I xy, or something along those lines.
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< 1447480547 786125 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I forgot to include ? in that definition
< 1447480578 253628 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's not as easy now that I've remembered that
< 1447480590 710188 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjovsuazhbrubddo JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447480666 844633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little help, anyone?
< 1447480714 763147 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gptgcgvhfyszsxpb JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447480732 763668 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Probabilistic combinatory logic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45375 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+793) 10Created Page
< 1447480985 141529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Probabilistic combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45376&oldid=45375 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+197) 10Fixed section because I'm bad at math
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< 1447482004 555822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION boredly hits the esogong

< 1447482056 397359 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GONG*
< 1447482058 500217 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447482090 295 :deltab_!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net NICK :deltab
< 1447482124 560694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a esogong?
< 1447482148 229271 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's like the Esobell, but it's a gong
< 1447482212 376703 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lights the esobomb

< 1447482243 371879 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: That is perhaps in bad taste, depending on exactly what went down in paris
< 1447482257 984955 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure exactly what happened though, so that might be OK
< 1447482259 208605 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447482300 111356 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oops, didn't intend that at all, but probably inappropriate.
< 1447482321 784331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Probably. Was the stuff in paris bombings or shootings or other?
< 1447482340 154967 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was just thinking about an appropriate combination of s the eso)
< 1447482350 61236 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm...
< 1447482352 921241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably bombings, given that they're terrorists. Bombs are the most effective terrorist weapon oftentimes. They cause a lot of, y'know, terror.
< 1447482354 946923 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION verbs the esonoun

< 1447482391 739793 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that #esoteric is close to going to war with ISIS. I can imagine the Michael Bay movie about us now...
< 1447482399 256647 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447482399 468330 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: seems that there were shootings *and* explosions.
< 1447482412 157298 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Ah. Bombs with guns attached to them?
< 1447482419 22551 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or separate?
< 1447482452 326664 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate I think, reading WP
< 1447482509 737873 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: three shootings (one involving hostage scenario) and one explosion (suicide bombing).
< 1447482567 548160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Probabilistic combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45377&oldid=45376 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+147) 10Changed ? to τ because τυχαίος
< 1447482588 780366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: WP already? That's fast.
< 1447482595 392712 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, WP is the Washington Post, isn't it?
< 1447482602 697073 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it as "Wikipedia" xD
< 1447482610 409878 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 9 hours passed since then, so not really surprising
< 1447482614 823965 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Wikipedia :)
< 1447482617 262223 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447482626 701468 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia are usually pretty quick with getting information going for current events
< 1447482634 603029 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 hours I suppose is long enough
< 1447482639 308897 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the abbreviated form
< 1447482647 653897 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for quick skimming
< 1447482654 452829 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunatey I usually forget it when thinking of good news sources
< 1447482656 314318 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1447482696 677011 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone here good with CL?
< 1447482703 143981 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already 54 citations for the article
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< 1447482908 434977 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Now THAT'S impressive
< 1447482944 435830 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe I didn't think of this yet: "lifthrasiir is going to esohell." Purely comically, of course.
< 1447482971 858306 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, Esohell is really the same as Esonirvana, because why not? (that's a formal logic term))
< 1447483104 861899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : lifthrasiir: That is perhaps in bad taste, depending on exactly what went down in paris <-- it doesn't help that my intuitive reaction to the comment was to make an inspector clouseau joke
< 1447483271 828806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is getting a bit annoyed at github inserting history cruft commits that are essentially nops but still end up in pull requests

< 1447483292 100417 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as?
< 1447483358 588420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: when i update my repository to edwardk's latest changes it gives a commit in my repository, which is still listed when i send a pull request _back_ (and this prevented me from making it a single-commit one so i had to cut and paste the description between windows)
< 1447483383 483312 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.. yes, that's a bit annoying
< 1447483385 489271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it was ridiculously complicated to separate out that one commit because i already had a pull request ourstanding
< 1447483415 718276 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can do something to work around that by stashing, pulling and rebasing, but my git-fu isn't very strong
< 1447483442 497541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm seriously trying to avoid the cli as much as possible, but i had to use cherry-pick
< 1447483446 411862 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid pointless merge commits I mean
< 1447483467 987061 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I've only used command-line git
< 1447483490 358290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the things i'm doing _shouldn't_ be hard enough to require the cli...
< 1447483637 152178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this was one of the things darcs was supposed to be good at, no?  treating commits individually?
< 1447483643 190099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it lost.
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< 1447484963 797909 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is anyone here good with combinators?
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< 1447487243 983140 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. I was 7 when the war started and it's still not over.
< 1447487406 540940 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Which one?
< 1447487419 74643 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general "war on terror"
< 1447487422 413970 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, he\\oren\.
< 1447487424 580300 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That one.
< 1447487446 891915 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd been born when it started; if I had, I wasn't sentient at the time
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< 1447487738 57796 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you can get in the army in some countries at 16. Therefore someone might be fighting the terrorists who was 2 when the war began
< 1447487808 940783 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods
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< 1447488026 835716 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Also, the occasional rabbit
< 1447488409 241558 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: There are people fighting /with/ the terrorists who were 2 when the war began. Or younger. Or not even born yet.
< 1447488800 677476 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The major general war on terror
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< 1447489705 716902 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: just call it "the war", i mean it's the only war my country is actively involved in
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< 1447489855 859136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: like this one, you mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvs5pqf-DMA
< 1447489963 759277 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the grim dark future, even the rabbits are blood-soaked engines of war.
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< 1447493322 345710 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :updated my font
< 1447493324 999020 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :双匁叔叙味呼哀哲在坑坊埋垣寺少帰広店弱
< 1447493325 947038 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :用強朝楽歌毎毛活海父番科答算
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< 1447503738 238536 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no expert but am I the only one that thinks that those "number arguments" in date-onomics are a bit weird.
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< 1447503753 733441 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, there apparentely are more female grads than male grads
< 1447503776 137650 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that if you restrict dating to the same education level than you have a problem as a female
< 1447503789 462112 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, overall there are more men than women in general.
< 1447503809 422779 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since some of those women are stuck searching in that 4:3 ratio restricted to the same education level
< 1447503827 622640 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would imply that the dating game for men without a high education level just got harder
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< 1447503833 246398 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-load
< 1447503833 395255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 10h 51m 12s ago:  except for syntax is what the lexer uses, grammar is what the parser uses <-- that sounds to me like almost the exact opposite of the natural language meaning
< 1447503833 395330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 10h 50m 34s ago: because there, syntax is how you place words, but _not_ how words are composed.
< 1447503931 615149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call what a lexer uses/does "tokenization" and say that syntax and grammar are both parser things
< 1447503974 614786 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then
< 1447503979 400310 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with ais523 on this one
< 1447504017 968305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if called on the difference between syntax and grammar, I'd say that a grammar is a specification of a syntax
< 1447504038 311071 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it depends on in which field you're working.
< 1447504196 129593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1447504200 631222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447504225 327615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was very scrolled up
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< 1447517662 940203 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing
< 1447517799 226898 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\hellroen\
< 1447517935 350731 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kanji should I draw today?
< 1447518028 913850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: still the vertical version of the long vowel sign, and those strange repeat signs you don't have yet
< 1447518082 917969 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "ゝゞ"
< 1447518096 2077 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and "〱〲"
< 1447518136 437526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but definitely the vertical long vowel sign
< 1447518215 549806 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently I have ゝゞ but didn't add them. I don't have 〱〲 though, and I couldn't find the vertical long vowel sign
< 1447518265 102334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45383&oldid=45382 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+700) 10
< 1447518287 465409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: shouldn't that be a variant glyph for the normal long vowel sign, marked such that the font engine or layout engine automatically chooses that variant glyph for vertical text?
< 1447518349 813865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, halfwidth korean syllables
< 1447518352 901894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no awit
< 1447518355 477698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not syllables
< 1447518358 74716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :halfwidth letters
< 1447518631 150688 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: could you please add 肺、管、腹、膵、臓、脾 and 爪?
< 1447518656 469151 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hellolsner. do you agree with https://youtu.be/GaGIFtJtuTY ?
< 1447518695 845728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried surströmming
< 1447518809 808949 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find a can here :(
< 1447518851 767243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these people seem to know what they're doing
< 1447519033 410102 :sinetek!~quassel@114.134.189.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm hungry now
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< 1447519242 676279 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinetellok. I haven't seem to have had been asked you the The Question: what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh?
< 1447519303 495022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, The Question still exists? it's not a very good question :-(
< 1447519335 426304 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523. it should be improved.
< 1447519400 957762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. If I want to write an eye dialect representing a child who can't yet pronounce "k" and "g" and so pronounces something close to "t" and "d" instead, then I should represent those letters with a "t" or "d" with what accent? A caron, a comma below, a circumflex?
< 1447519495 508502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort-of the opposite of a cedilla
< 1447519526 464519 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an eye dialect?
< 1447519564 757902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eye dialect is nonstandard spelling representing the accent of the speaker
< 1447519601 193985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eg. Hagrid talks with an eye dialect in Harry Potter, and so does the dwarf Dwalin in Irregular Webcomic!
< 1447519623 706430 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as Belkar in OoTS, except that he also writes that way in that joke.
< 1447519676 171327 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ť and ď?
< 1447519694 148337 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas
< 1447519695 87043 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas.
< 1447519712 801862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so caron?
< 1447519878 409298 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was leaning towards a haček, prime or comma below.
< 1447519907 183115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacek is the same as caron, right?
< 1447520022 563573 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447520035 672049 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :macron is the bar, caron is haček.
< 1447520051 775668 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much diacriticonfusion. I am ashamed.
< 1447520083 569360 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :macron makes sense, it marks long vowels, whereas brevis (breve) marks short vowels. originally. 
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< 1447520544 307211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also diaresis = trema = umlaut.
< 1447520563 677659 :sinetek!~quassel@114.134.189.107 PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."
< 1447520670 969215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45384&oldid=45383 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+1284) 10
< 1447520755 598767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "fly droppings" is a general term for all of them hth
< 1447521006 492506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45385&oldid=45384 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+33) 10
< 1447521048 283608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stand still, stay silent sure takes its time to get started...
< 1447521327 214903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45386&oldid=45385 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+42) 10
< 1447521599 97261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45387&oldid=45386 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (-217) 10
< 1447521751 57757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you reading the archives or something? 
< 1447521872 537620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the bits that are in Finnish here and there.
< 1447521898 996156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Insert TV Tropes 'Bilingual Bonus' link here.)
< 1447521912 281559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is disappointed that there haven't been further edits on Three Star Programmer or its talk page

< 1447521917 469756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quite proud of that language
< 1447521929 140617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I guess I'll have to wait for Keymaker to notice it, it seems like eir sort of language
< 1447521936 529587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... is this a new language?
< 1447521944 565836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is new
< 1447521978 611883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447521982 988732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of a couple of days ago
< 1447521986 980104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[e:Three_Star_Programmer]
< 1447521988 323899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1447521989 834738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Three_Star_Programmer
< 1447521994 991209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would help if I got my trigger right
< 1447522246 275700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45388&oldid=45387 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+30) 10
< 1447522345 413227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45389&oldid=45388 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (-2) 10/* Specification */
< 1447522374 838038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, when you ask whether that language is Turing-complete, what are the observables or outputs of that langauge? programs never halt. do you mean with the output extension you describe?
< 1447522439 452277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm using a loose #esoteric definition along the lines of "given any program in a Turing-equivalent language, you can write a program in «language» that runs in 'the same way' in some easily demonstrable sense"
< 1447522527 805546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, but that kind of stuff can lead to strange things when you start to make more and more complicated isomorphisms, and eventually the isomorphism itself will run your program
< 1447522542 61320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might be better to have a clear halt criterion
< 1447522543 65392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the main objections against my 2,3 machine proof
< 1447522560 585832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's the problem with lots of such proofs
< 1447522565 594909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that one does have a clear halt criterion, at least; I found a construction with a semi-infinite tape, where in the halt state it falls off the end
< 1447522609 349295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you need some limits on what's allowed when you translate the program. 
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< 1447524177 496515 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you feel about CHIQRSX9+ being used in code golf competitions? (In particular, in the seven competitions it has a good chance of winning.)
< 1447524341 991370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think it also has a decent chance at "make an interpreter for a Turing-complete language"
< 1447524364 95064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd also do well in an accumulator-incrementing competition, but would at least draw with brainfuck
< 1447524389 759292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, X doesn't work like that
< 1447524393 478101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes the language TC in a nonspecified way
< 1447524494 614760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: any opinions on how the infinite Four Horsemen ruling affects TC M:tG games?
< 1447524520 578357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it probably doesn't, unless randomness is involevd
< 1447524540 337254 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is that ruling?
< 1447524579 665264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :link?
< 1447524584 921365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that with any infinite loop, you have to be able to specify the number of iterations it takes and the expected end state, or you can't continue going round it
< 1447524622 269974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this Reddit thread contains good discussion, and the story it links to complains and quotes the rule itself: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/11k00n/id_like_to_make_awareness_of_a_stupid_ruling_that/
< 1447524655 213665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case you can't specify the number of iterations and the expected end state, assuming you're simulating an unsolved problem
< 1447524662 652507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you also can't do anything else
< 1447524810 711066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, isn't that ruling about tournament rules (avoiding slow play) rather than comprehensive rules? I might be misunderstanding it
< 1447524818 663721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, tournament rules
< 1447524911 461623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's about tournament rules, then it can't affect turing-completeness in the sense we were talking about, because clearly setting up a full computational device isn't possible in a tournament anyway, and I already knew that.
< 1447524965 617556 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How do you feel about it? Should it be forbidden? (Though I really want to know how oerjan feels about it, since it's his.)
< 1447525019 258641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well PCCG stack exchange has a rule that the language has to have a certain amount of power, and the usual test is being able to implement one specific program (something to do with printing primes, I think?) withotu cheating
< 1447525036 697815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think CHIQRSX9+ can handle that deterministically, with the standard definition of X
< 1447525052 485652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess X makes it TC by definition, so it should count 
< 1447525066 129500 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: being turing complete might not be enough
< 1447525076 633382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the golf SE rulings that is]
< 1447525096 667650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, their definition is intentionally designed to allow relatively powerful sub-TC languages
< 1447525104 125296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but may accidentally disallow some TC languages as a result
< 1447525166 258189 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that might not be an accident
< 1447525191 860486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly
< 1447525195 201659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the kind of TC language where you need a stellar size program to print anything useful with high probability, then they could disallow it
< 1447525211 305794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a TC esolang that is designed to be almost impossible to program,
< 1447525219 921130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not just to the level Malbolge does it, but more
< 1447525221 49395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like http://esolangs.org/wiki/DownRight is probably disallowed due to not having any form of IO and programs typically being very large
< 1447525241 916389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Three Star Programmer? :-P, although that's more just impossible to think about
< 1447525243 527076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I find it so
< 1447525279 81536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I don't think three-star programmer is like that
< 1447525306 665174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried to write a program in it?
< 1447525309 573869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, I didn't get anywhere
< 1447525315 241268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I also don't know if it's turing complete
< 1447525322 815702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, normally when you're writing a program
< 1447525332 901904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start off by defining how or where you're going to store the various bits of data
< 1447525338 624438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three star programmer just completely defies tha
< 1447525340 951216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that
< 1447525341 101794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you figure out that it's turing complete, you can probably also write programs in it that are only a few times as much verbose as brainfuck or something
< 1447525356 817395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it has obstructions regarding to what IO you can do
< 1447525360 174092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you /have/ to keep moving your data around during the life of the program, and yet you also /have/ to use hardcoded cells
< 1447525400 369619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it sounds difficult, but not in the sense of difficult _after_ you prove it turing complete
< 1447525417 201409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but difficult in the sense of how Malbolbe was difficult before people figured out how to write programs for it easily
< 1447525420 202859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but the proof would presumably be constructive
< 1447525425 545794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's as hard as Malbolge
< 1447525436 893135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, however, find it hard to think about
< 1447525437 425250 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's TC though
< 1447525443 241635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Malbolge is easy to think about, just makes it hard to do things)
< 1447525445 479826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that makes it a good esolang
< 1447525448 905435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1447525453 415722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's TC either, though, but it hits all the normal notes to make a language TC
< 1447525456 628690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes Three Star Programmer a good esolang
< 1447525470 479526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm much more confident that 3* is TC than, say, Xigxag
< 1447525480 931829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is my go-to language for "almost certainly not TC but it's very hard to prove that")
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< 1447525492 17638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xigxag... I have to read this one
< 1447525506 422919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Xigxag
< 1447525512 828517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1447525515 906201 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it
< 1447525543 809531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what's this 3* thing
< 1447525567 893065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xigxag sounds like bitwise cyclic tag, only worse
< 1447525570 728909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Three_Star_Programmer
< 1447525580 917894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nah, it's more like self BCT but ten times less powerful
< 1447525595 877683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1447525609 149646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it needs a stop criterion
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< 1447525664 281915 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xigxag looks fun
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< 1447525834 235966 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. upgraded firefox (and ubuntu incidentally) on my laptop, and now it freezes after a few seconds...
< 1447525863 21964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox, or the entire laptop?
< 1447525870 683067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, it sounds like a bug related to the upgrade
< 1447525881 75206 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to ubuntu
< 1447525887 525471 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :only firefox.
< 1447525913 341597 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now my keyboard layout is US, for no apparent reason.
< 1447525919 440106 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot is going on...
< 1447525937 485744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot?
< 1447525937 878181 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or the law does. :-p heh, i drew this stuff, base-10 addition is harder than it needs to
< 1447525945 241794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you must have hit the rate limiter
< 1447525996 835222 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's reboot and hope for the best...
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< 1447526055 237963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Xigxag also sort of reminds me to http://esolangs.org/wiki/McCulloch's_second_machine because that one can also sort of copy stuff from the left of the string or the right of the string, although I don't think they're really similar.
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< 1447526319 641288 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :still happening. much joy.
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< 1447527324 460211 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :swapped the flash plugin from 'flashplugin-installer' to the pepper one. seems to have fixed the problem.
< 1447527361 593097 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :talked too fast. still freezes. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHGHGHGHGHGH.
< 1447527408 488735 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't flash
< 1447527469 751123 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack
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< 1447528180 411818 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get a second computer and run flash on thst
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< 1447537837 531064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me why it still does not print?
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< 1447538862 535854 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what doesn't print?
< 1447538998 509437 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is λx.(λx.xy)(λy.xy) a valid λ-term?
< 1447539058 428176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I used the command:    dvipbm -E fontfinder < texput.dvi | foo2zjs -z2 | lp     but it will not print. It add into the print queue, it looks like a valid PJL and ZjStream, and the printer is HP Laserjet P1102w and is recognized by the computer.
< 1447539071 599271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it will not print; the lights don't blink or anything else like that.
< 1447539097 790946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The output of dvipbm is also valid; I checked that too.)
< 1447539113 865371 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /think/ it is, but it isn't working with my parser.
< 1447539129 904394 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone confirm that I'm the one who screwed up?
< 1447539382 378734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: err, the first y doesn't refer to any of your lambdas; it's "valid" if you allow scope and if you allow that to be an open term (i.e. to have un-lambda's variables)
< 1447539385 10242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a closed term
< 1447539403 793244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> \x -> (\x -> x y) (\y -> x y)
< 1447539405 256123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     No instance for (Typeable t0)
< 1447539405 404694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       arising from a use of ‘show_M539493718582421214228727’
< 1447539405 404769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     In the expression:
< 1447539412 688277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, lambdabot has y pre-defined
< 1447539415 425720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> (\x -> x y) (\y -> x y)
< 1447539416 61297 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just need to know if it's syntactically valid for my parser
< 1447539416 641199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Expr -> r) -> r
< 1447539424 332992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that depends on what language you're parsing
< 1447539428 471278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lambda-calculus" is too general
< 1447539455 925538 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Traditional λ-calculus (with some assignment, though that's not yet relevant)
< 1447539473 624308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in that case it's a valid open term but not a valid closed term
< 1447539476 709505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are you parsing?
< 1447539517 683014 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not sure.
< 1447539540 263259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just following the three rules for Lambda terms Wiki gives me
< 1447539565 618283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus#Lambda_terms
< 1447539610 73563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open terms, I think? If you're referring to the fact that there's an unbound "y" in there then open terms
< 1447539612 650027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's valid under those rules
< 1447539622 493052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, open terms are terms that contain free (=unbound) variables
< 1447539665 407263 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447539666 451994 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1447539681 34416 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the parser is working now
< 1447539690 667231 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a different test term
< 1447539694 357806 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now testing it with that one
< 1447539768 448383 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1447539789 50187 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't crash, but it doesn't parse the second part of the application (λy.xy)
< 1447539806 296387 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the same thing I would get if parsing λx.(λx.xy)
< 1447539837 35178 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily, I think I know why
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< 1447540532 847910 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's working better now. Still not perfect, I'm sure, but improved
< 1447540580 361748 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :after some voodoo incantations, beta Firefox 43 may work...
< 1447540610 11007 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, temporary bug, but λx.G(λx.xy)(λy.xy) is different from λx.(G)(λx.xy)(λy.xy)
< 1447540617 914857 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(G is a named λ-term)
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< 1447540920 807680 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. Now I can assign things.
< 1447541037 969081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to do printing on Ubuntu?
< 1447541133 68334 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1447541279 146317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to get all light blinking when trying to print a PCL file, but now it does nothing regardless of the format, and usb_printerid doesn't work anymore either.
< 1447541517 44100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usb_printerid used to work but now it doesn't work.
< 1447542562 666052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least that works now, but now I just get the lights blinking again even with ZjStream format
< 1447543173 323319 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parser is now working, barring maritime disasters
< 1447543187 168415 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no
< 1447543340 809781 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go
< 1447543341 832865 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope
< 1447543549 486381 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can parse S(BBS)(KK) properly, so it should be working
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< 1447545264 214827 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone here a (n)curses expert?  i just need to read a utf8 character
< 1447545529 926586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); is all I can say.
< 1447545605 156576 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try :o
< 1447545689 302184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also ncursesw.)
< 1447545827 477270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just to clarify, those were not alternatives. I know you have to initialize the locale in any case; I'm less sure about whether you can get by with non-w ncurses in an UTF-8 locale or not.)
< 1447545866 709442 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used -lncursesw and setlocale but getch() still splits è
< 1447545918 542451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because the corresponding wide-character function is get_wch.
< 1447545932 364239 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
< 1447545935 243100 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks!
< 1447545976 864210 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabèllora!
< 1447545979 558394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The naming is ridiculous, because 'w' is both for wide and 'window', and I don't think it's not entirely consistent throughout.
< 1447545997 63408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although generally 'w' as the first letter of a function name is probably for 'window'.
< 1447545997 948626 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :belloily :)
< 1447546020 109941 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fizzie i noted that wgetch is totally not what i wanted <.<
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< 1447547071 190159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a post-birthday book buying spree
< 1447547079 973389 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any recomendations?
< 1447547406 879046 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of books are you buying?
< 1447547485 248569 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man and the Computer by John Diebold
< 1447547525 631940 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnd for dummies
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< 1447547730 125365 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man and the Computer is great because it offers a perspective on the infancy of Computer Science, written in 1969.
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< 1447548932 473441 :dtscode!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers
< 1447549141 269533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric
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< 1447549173 912078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to set the margins properly when printing a PBM file with CUPS?
< 1447549223 374937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out I needed to send the PBM file directly to lp/lpr rather than sending the ZjStream file.
< 1447551024 630083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it to work now
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< 1447552186 510714 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow japanese people really dont give a shit about political correctness
< 1447552190 489712 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34460325
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< 1447552754 721978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why did they change the background
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< 1447553842 389184 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lightly mapoles fungot

< 1447553842 559861 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: your snapshot seems to work in an interpreter
< 1447553875 106568 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: my snapshot works, but I'm afraid it's only a temporary solution to a poissonny problem.
< 1447553875 320855 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is busser your last name by any chance
< 1447553885 476591 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, it's Boily.
< 1447553885 716555 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: all the ( )s i had carelessly written in evaluated positions.
< 1447553899 388312 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you like to parethesise dangerously.
< 1447553899 611204 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 1.5. it might not.) well, normally it varies slightly more detail.
< 1447553928 851800 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION *THWACKS* fungot. “BALANCE YOUR PARENTHESES!”

< 1447553967 66148 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's something to do it recklessly, but you may never unbalance them! it's uncouth, and may break the Universe!
< 1447553982 941933 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1447554006 976649 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fizzie are you around?  thanks for the help, but i'm having problems with get_wch + iswprint
< 1447554038 460383 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i press backspace, get_wch reads 263 and iswprint(263) is true
< 1447554041 5063 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at pikhq... ”just you wait, you miserable miscreant!”

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< 1447554270 65665 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :((
< 1447554279 591469 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :))
< 1447554284 143671 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :((
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< 1447554326 102480 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :howzat?
< 1447554343 330575 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*twitch*
< 1447554354 13787 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice fsvo nice
< 1447554401 470236 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: don't be surprised if the clouds part open and your computer is struck by a Divine Curly Brace of Balance Retribution.
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< 1447556807 361939 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses is hard :(
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< 1447557716 33528 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more of a blessings person
< 1447557770 97588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly is pretty fun to say.
< 1447557798 855486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jokes aside, another alternative is libtickit.. I haven't used it, but knowing the author of it a bit I think one could expect it to be pretty decent, at least on the terminal communications side of things
< 1447557810 644450 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully also API-wise
< 1447557823 980962 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: HireFly is also pretty good advice to companies imo
< 1447557830 3852 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially this fly
< 1447557837 161941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a fly?
< 1447557844 798882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize.
< 1447557846 333422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on IRC
< 1447557869 808641 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a firefly
< 1447558956 398343 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447560363 145040 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: stahp channel stalking me
< 1447560371 697680 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm what
< 1447560394 97703 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even realise you're in here :p
< 1447560395 123506 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're like in most of the channels I'm in
< 1447560401 98920 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor I you D:
< 1447560404 490981 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nchambers
< 1447560405 989519 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09nchambers: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.)
< 1447560434 818398 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wai you do this?
< 1447560439 679174 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been here on-and-off awhile
< 1447560443 192804 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I need to join more networks
< 1447560449 899052 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll do it later
< 1447560571 816311 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: join #irp
< 1447560677 568111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447560686 842725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping that would be a channel for discussing political economy
< 1447560704 167705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark twain wrote about political economy
< 1447560709 937983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twainquotes.com/Galaxy/187009a.html
< 1447560737 250216 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this is cooler
< 1447560742 514884 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is shachaf pronounced?
< 1447560760 403514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pronounced?
< 1447560767 446440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to be.
< 1447560769 584161 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know

< 1447560800 302099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google shachaf pronunciation
< 1447560800 861140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forvo.com/word/shachaf/
< 1447560801 14153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Shachaf pronunciation: How to pronounce Shachaf in Hebrew
< 1447560802 262930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that
< 1447560948 729902 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I still don't know how to pronounce that, even after hearing it, so I'm going to call you "Seagull"
< 1447560965 576725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to pronounce my name to type it.
< 1447560979 489432 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to pronounce it to think it
< 1447560988 594889 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I need to think it to type it
< 1447561008 751394 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're right, I could just do s
< 1447561038 518091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SireFly
< 1447561097 716729 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahaf
< 1447561116 623618 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nice name
< 1447561311 494982 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of the fun 'uns.
< 1447561330 211974 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few good names
< 1447561434 701192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: sha 'haf makes no sense hth
< 1447561904 885470 :Intellygent!80f0e131@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.128.240.225.49 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
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< 1447562574 616755 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakhaf is the least misunderstandable spelling
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< 1447565049 502460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh windows rebooted without my permission and lost all my tabs
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< 1447565558 34861 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
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< 1447571940 471384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my computer claims it has no network access
< 1447571998 502586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your computer is correct hth
< 1447572354 1872 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably find your tabs in your browser history
< 1447572380 554140 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Marine le Pen an aquatic rabbit?
< 1447572447 654964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1447572482 841715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the problem is that all the ones i cared about had been open for days
< 1447572487 348124 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'? OKAY
< 1447572491 581921 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? OKAY
< 1447572492 364950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447572515 718255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably remember those i'm meant to.
< 1447572518 651387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ÒKAÝ´
< 1447572519 552720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ÒKAÝ´: not found
< 1447572522 109150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1447572541 859223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tabs that have been open for months hth
< 1447572545 106797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably years, actually
< 1447572557 858220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've moved my browser session between computers and between browsers
< 1447572565 60410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll get to them any day now, i'm sure
< 1447572569 411714 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually bookmark things and then close them
< 1447572585 390236 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or download the page and look at it later
< 1447572616 336567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i bookmark things, i never look at them again tdnh
< 1447572618 912138 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two tabs open right now
< 1447572625 222685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not entirely true)
< 1447572657 950528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, when i keep a tab open it's frequently because i want to remember my precise place in it.
< 1447572681 138277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also if i tab things
< 1447572695 741257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SarahNathanson 5*  10New user account
< 1447572695 929584 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, those god damn autoscrolling websited
< 1447572715 279579 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have boycotted sites for doing that
< 1447572759 124104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually mostly which comment in a thread i was reading...
< 1447572789 95612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the github browser won't start again after the reboot :(
< 1447572929 808140 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a github browser?
< 1447572941 826464 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they fork googe chrome or something?
< 1447572967 761844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean app
< 1447572989 526815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it couldn't take windows hard killing it
< 1447573006 639400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45390 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+183) 10EmojiCoder is a language programmed in emojis
< 1447573113 201930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45391&oldid=45390 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+1678) 10added reference
< 1447573121 955290 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah when I used that, I had to keep reinstalling it
< 1447573162 241024 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets itself into a garbled state and then I'm too lazy to figure out how to fix it
< 1447573197 341684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch :(
< 1447573228 123460 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried the command line git?
< 1447573232 884187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45392&oldid=45391 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+31) 10/* Commands */ spacing
< 1447573245 499059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45393&oldid=45392 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+0) 10/* Modifers */
< 1447573267 544858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45394&oldid=45393 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+3) 10/* Parameters */
< 1447573282 302373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45395&oldid=45394 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+3) 10/* Variable Reference */
< 1447573282 668510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i hate remembering heaps of cli options
< 1447573288 904917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45396&oldid=45395 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+1) 10/* Comments */
< 1447573295 303764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the shell started
< 1447573347 78931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch it claims .git is not a repository :(
< 1447573355 444185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45397&oldid=45396 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+23) 10formatting
< 1447573383 847328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're supposed to be outside the .git directory, within the directory that contains .git
< 1447573396 236930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i'm in the wrong place
< 1447573458 910481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's why i ln -s .git .git hth
< 1447573467 674400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of shit color scheme is this
< 1447573508 113984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45398&oldid=45397 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+746) 10
< 1447573569 236997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45399&oldid=45398 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (-6) 10/* Examples */
< 1447573618 843069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45400&oldid=45399 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+52) 10
< 1447573672 699787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45401&oldid=45400 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (-28) 10
< 1447573737 430036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot read the important info because git insists on using dark red on dark blue
< 1447573779 41152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45402&oldid=45401 5* 03SarahNathanson 5* (+143) 10
< 1447573851 473960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok time for that reinstall
< 1447573953 868310 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh right that god damn color scheme
< 1447574399 242436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll assume i actually hav to reboot again ...
< 1447574729 238713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there i got it wiped out...
< 1447575063 878482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it takes stupidly long to download
< 1447575159 265799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1447575186 754921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try something else.
< 1447575825 390689 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447575991 731040 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447577671 84407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it funny to love programming in the abstract, yet hate actual computers.
< 1447577706 604985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, murphy's law + yak shaving
< 1447577861 627699 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah. I like coding but I hate a lot of other people
< 1447577863 38730 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s code
< 1447577876 2281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, am i having disk trouble...
< 1447577945 924639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the surrounding windows desktop crashed...
< 1447577995 871298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be gradually coming back
< 1447578023 793014 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447578051 56745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit ...
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< 1447578263 20612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that screamed for yet another reboot, the desktop menu was blinking...
< 1447578449 702305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
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< 1447579238 943744 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447580568 122947 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I hope you have everything backed up
< 1447580682 665430 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.122.214 PART :#esoteric
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< 1447594597 373719 :ejls!~ejls@esimon.eu QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1447598134 708252 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril.
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< 1447598924 522181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no stril
< 1447599309 198961 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stril
< 1447599310 181146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stril? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447599753 758955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45403&oldid=45402 5* 03129.161.146.231 5* (+96) 10
< 1447600141 538692 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447600272 917471 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn ENOSTRIL/Nose such file or directory
< 1447600276 647145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «enostril»
< 1447600299 120035 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/enostril
< 1447600301 790286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447600311 173230 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "Nose such file or directory" >wisdom/ENOSTRIL
< 1447600314 138295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447601217 481700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom stril
< 1447601218 586729 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*stril*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory
< 1447601236 61722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom [sS][tT][rR][iI][lL]
< 1447601237 341939 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*[sS][tT][rR][iI][lL]*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory
< 1447601248 310876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom STRIL
< 1447601249 502725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOSTRIL/Nose such file or directory
< 1447601815 706563 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mornrng
< 1447603224 618145 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOLEDGE
< 1447603236 826335 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOWLEDGE
< 1447603237 136518 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\hellornrn\
< 1447603547 318976 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily
< 1447604012 764065 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAA
< 1447604048 460208 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :やっぱり「量」はむりだ
< 1447604241 213812 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kanji has nine horizontal lines in it, and I have 16 pixels.
< 1447604283 242869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the white spaces between lines take up 8 pixels, so that kanji needs 17 pixels!!!?!!?
< 1447604424 339490 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: heh, http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/9lines.png
< 1447604496 685667 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that is surprisingly legible
< 1447604519 405450 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll squeeze two of the lines together
< 1447604718 465901 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have 童?
< 1447604959 159776 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: DESTRUCTOR CHICKEN
< 1447605095 426905 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447605784 859551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45404&oldid=45389 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+320) 10/* Specification */
< 1447605837 785762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45405&oldid=45404 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+87) 10/* Specification */
< 1447605917 348840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45406&oldid=45405 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+106) 10/* Compiler */
< 1447605942 602426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45407&oldid=45406 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (-7) 10/* Compiler */
< 1447606020 369741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45408&oldid=45407 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (-1) 10/* Specification */
< 1447606025 583971 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447606252 898276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45409&oldid=45408 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+26) 10/* Specification */
< 1447606267 567178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45410&oldid=45409 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+3) 10/* Specification */
< 1447606808 50014 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-19-181.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447607453 805523 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that errno must be thread local so &errno is a unique identifier for each thread?
< 1447607567 704830 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447607720 230973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yes
< 1447607731 291756 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: although in reality it's a macro, not a thread-local variable
< 1447607754 330971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase first class thread-local variables supported by the language (rather than by libc) are rather new technology
< 1447607851 802487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a macro that usually expands to dereferencing a pointer returned by a call to a libc function, like *(__errno_location())
< 1447607985 238661 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like learning
< 1447607988 440757 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chan is good
< 1447610199 720834 :Intellygent!80f0e132@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.128.240.225.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447610257 728131 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447610678 617634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, that's interesting
< 1447610687 886442 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean the discussion that happened just under an hour ago
< 1447611263 603670 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: can you give me a tab character please
< 1447611266 978502 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447611336 811654 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is	one?
< 1447611347 704374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447611350 199737 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks legit
< 1447611351 522845 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I am afraid I cannot
< 1447611356 779258 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :` echo -e '\t'
< 1447611357 411518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
< 1447611361 787174 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\t'
< 1447611362 618186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447611378 411026 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'foo\tbar'
< 1447611379 373538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo	bar
< 1447611382 946745 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK
< 1447611400 736570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did sent tab characters
< 1447611425 213377 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it isn't showing as a tab in irssi
< 1447611448 110164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1447611454 688601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a reversed I
< 1447611458 579517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copies as an I
< 1447611476 180919 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447611481 94884 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't I symmetrical?
< 1447611526 852071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :color-reversed
< 1447611533 460609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse video as they say
< 1447611534 279389 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah
< 1447611569 140275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this client it shows as black on purple (normal text (in a IRC long parameter) being blue on black)
< 1447611573 79548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm prettyt sure I have a tab on my clipboard now
< 1447611604 591967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What operating system are you using? Depending what it is there can be better way
< 1447611658 220123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :win10
< 1447611677 402027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Linux you can use the xclip command. In Windows I expect you could go into Notepad and then push tab and copy to clipboard
< 1447611809 590995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's how I got mine on Win7
< 1447611815 932085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I had only Notepad++ open and I have it set to give spaces instead of tabs :P
< 1447611816 80707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: hmm. "The result of attempting to indirectly access an object with thread storage duration from a thread other than the one with which the object is associated is implementation-defined" -- I guess this means that an implementation may use the same address for all errno-s. (but as far as I can tell, gcc doesn't do that)
< 1447611866 645626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone go to the aubergine article and check that there is a tab character at the end of the quine example?
< 1447611892 411437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :None for me
< 1447611900 543249 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML does weird things with spaces
< 1447611921 585604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. i think it's stripping the tab somehow
< 1447611924 372874 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be there
< 1447611931 72757 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time
< 1447611996 920078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it still the predecessor of a quine?
< 1447612014 214308 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just put the hex dump of the quine
< 1447612028 372509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prints its listing...and crashes the interpreter. with the tab at the end it halts successfully
< 1447612091 765211 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the wiki software that's stripping the tab, not the browser
< 1447612094 976799 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try a thing
< 1447612112 331348 :jaboja!~jaboja@esc210.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447612114 788899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45411&oldid=45373 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+1) 10/* Examples */
< 1447612123 688507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice
< 1447612141 546947 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, it just blindly trim()s the submission
< 1447612156 648570 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there's some sort of space character on that that is either a tab or a double-width space
< 1447612159 927451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to edit the whole Examples section instead of just the quine subsection to ensure it stays
< 1447612195 143509 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447612224 178558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I know how to ensure no one breaks it again
< 1447612269 125639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45412&oldid=45411 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+99) 10/* Quine */
< 1447612303 134308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's not whitespace at the end of the section, so even if the section is edited, it won't be trimmed
< 1447612604 82762 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANOTHER attack in paris??
< 1447612623 65799 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added the following characters:
< 1447612625 678452 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :双匁叔叙味呼哀哲在坑坊埋垣寺少帰広店弱
< 1447612626 285963 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :用強朝楽歌毎毛活海父番科答算
< 1447612637 693798 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are characters which I do not have
< 1447612642 544426 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :紙細組絵線考船親角計記話語読買走近通週道遠
< 1447612643 383548 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :重野量雲頭顔風首肺管腹膵臓脾
< 1447612662 617079 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: wait what
< 1447612748 574122 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any news abaut an attack toady
< 1447612919 294724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: nice, so you added that character with nine lines
< 1447612941 324488 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: or did you not hear about the Friday attacks until today?
< 1447612947 450917 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I also see you've added the other kana repeat marks
< 1447612970 619487 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah
< 1447612996 393413 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I added the medical kanji that boily requested
< 1447613005 833954 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :臓 was hard
< 1447613055 980240 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently there was a flase alarm of gunshots today
< 1447613063 858279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find a headline about a panic in Paris today, connected to a bang, but no concrete information yet.
< 1447613098 555454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: by the way, I wonder if you should make 一 and ー more easily distinguishable, because both those characters are common, so that could help proofreading Japanese text
< 1447613254 262959 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm good point.
< 1447614098 772430 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they actually do look the same in some fonts, but still
< 1447614278 330863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: question. how many such Hanzi do you have in the font that are not used in Japanese or are very rare in Japanese? and how do you choose those Hanzi? Have you read enough Chinese to know what characters are common, or have someone else requested them?
< 1447614560 567502 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447614667 305429 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447614667 492688 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
< 1447614667 492747 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447615079 391791 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have sevearl that are easy to draw, and some that were requested
< 1447615160 99276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1447615205 96919 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in a few cases a character is in the Joyo kanji list but its radical isn't, but I drew the radical any way
< 1447615639 56488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447615724 912914 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :丽 is not a joyo kanji but 麗 (which I haven't drawn yet) is
< 1447615756 303539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1447615895 319888 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand 卍卐 are just easy to draw
< 1447615963 63402 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just draw a white square instead of the second kanji. nobody will ever see the difference
< 1447616013 740534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how about 儿 ? that was the one that made me ask this question, because you've added it very early
< 1447616062 402171 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one I happen to know is used a lot in mandarin for "erhua" after a word
< 1447616074 367571 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's easy to draw
< 1447616084 956524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I guess being a radical and being easy to draw has some correlation
< 1447616116 915649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: why?
< 1447616133 573181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you can see it in oren's font in http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm
< 1447616374 549206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45413 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+3953) 10Created page with "This is an implementation of [[Aubergine]] in Python by [[User:Quintopia]]. There are no frills or flags to make debugging easier, though error messages are fairly robust. Int..."
< 1447616503 314471 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... maybe some fonts omit 卐 because of association with the Nazis
< 1447616532 176428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or maybe the fonts just don't have all the uncommon characters
< 1447616539 46096 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was unaware the nazis used one particular orientation)
< 1447616621 579390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: people keep saying that they used one particular orientation, but since they used that symbol on flags, on many flags you'd see either orientation depending on the side you're watching from, so it's probably just vexillogy pedants that say this, and in practice you'd see either orientation
< 1447616654 943045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, maybe you'd see one orientation in official documents printed by the nazis, but it's not like people don't associate both orientations with them.
< 1447616669 785057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, is there an arrow-cross hanzi too?)
< 1447616749 625526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45414&oldid=45413 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+175) 10Ruby impl does not allow o except in =
< 1447616895 131976 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. I don't see a character for the arrow cross in the wikipedia article.
< 1447616917 159675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nazi are using diagonal orientation, I think
< 1447616975 826695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45415&oldid=45412 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+77) 10/* Implementations */
< 1447617015 318622 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: true, but I meant the orientation like which way it spins
< 1447617071 985501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: diagonal orientation would look strange in a kanji
< 1447617485 109105 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447617722 766897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is strange in the kanji, but the diagonal orientation is not the kanji and therefore need not be included in a kanji font.
< 1447617839 529333 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it even has a code point
< 1447618002 768907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure it has one. unicode has all kinds of crazy emoji and symbols these days
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< 1447619400 263846 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :patashello
< 1447619404 560657 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see you much here anymore
< 1447620063 716804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not it has a code point defined in Unicode, you can optionally include it in a font or not; if you are using Unicode encoding of the font and you include such things which aren't defined in Unicode then you will need to assign your own numbers (such as using the Unicode private use area)
< 1447620202 730116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1447620302 55250 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447620831 306678 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. 商 looks like aguy wearing a hat shouting
< 1447620877 534304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a canonical example for a language that is not regular but has the pumping property? The simplest I have so far is strings over {a,b} that contain the same number of a-s and b-s, and furthermore do not contain aaa nor bbb as a substring.
< 1447620923 678661 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447621147 389629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is working with this "general" version of the pumping lemma: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumping_lemma_for_regular_languages#General_version_of_pumping_lemma_for_regular_languages

< 1447621895 8633 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uuadxasmwsxqdnfo QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1447622030 342905 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-83-64.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447624156 955638 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My λ-parser works :)
< 1447624570 120309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice
< 1447624783 150921 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Combinatory Logic associate right or left?
< 1447624799 339096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. is SKI equal to S(KI) or (SK)I?
< 1447624814 386822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hope it's the second one; that's the one my parser recognizes
< 1447624833 555483 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Do you know?
< 1447624850 662225 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero
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< 1447625119 585094 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-83-64.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane
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< 1447625366 326405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: usually the second one, SKI means (SK)I, like in Haskell
< 1447625393 380868 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Good. I did NOT want to rewrite my parser xD
< 1447625521 74078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Combinatory_logic
< 1447625592 64998 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, I know, I made most of the grunt work on that page xD
< 1447625612 543702 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entire list of TMaMb combinators was translated by me xD
< 1447625639 637936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1447625735 690728 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-83-64.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447625766 934314 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Think I just thought up a bug
< 1447625772 248756 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no
< 1447626011 464944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I* = S(SK). What does S(SK) do, really?
< 1447626034 134809 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how do you have "Identity bird, once removed"?
< 1447626283 283032 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :S(SK)yz = (SK) z (y z) = S K z (y z) = K (y z) (z (y z)) = y z
< 1447626293 914436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric := Iyz
< 1447626300 768125 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence S(SK) = I
< 1447626327 790250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45416&oldid=45414 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+56) 10Python has arbitrary-size integers? Who knew?
< 1447626584 562596 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want  a copy of dont starve together?
< 1447626607 985711 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \y z -> ap (ap const) y z == y z
< 1447626610 655890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Typeable a0) arising from a use of ‘myquickcheck’
< 1447626610 804367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘text’, namely ‘(myquickcheck (\ y z -> ap (ap cons...
< 1447626635 994544 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \y z -> ap (ap const) y z == (y (z :: Int) :: Int)
< 1447626638 104541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type ‘Int -> a0’ with ‘Int’
< 1447626638 253523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: Int -> Int -> Int Actual type: (Int -> a0) -> Int -> Int In t...
< 1447626688 676990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447626698 732682 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \y z -> ap (ap const) y z == (y (z :: Int -> Int) :: Int)
< 1447626700 728061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1447626790 528825 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447626838 961210 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, sure, I guess
< 1447626935 850737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45417&oldid=44733 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+276) 10Alternative primitives, see also
< 1447626970 655881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45418&oldid=45417 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10/* See also */ Link fixed
< 1447627082 823296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Probabilistic combinatory logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45419&oldid=45377 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+6) 10Minor changes
< 1447627453 241908 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447627964 773291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> ooh, I hope you have everything backed up <-- erm... maybe not too recently.
< 1447628041 355614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, it looks better now, after i managed to run chkdsk.  i had to run it from an automatic recovery version because the direct one crashed.
< 1447628064 365123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although IE lost all cookies and the logs, not the first time...
< 1447628106 764046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*normal one
< 1447628284 87910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to give windows the benefit of the doubt that the reboots were due to a fatal error rather than an unprompted scheduling.
< 1447628297 878088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the first one.  the rest obviously were.
< 1447628318 669396 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I accidentally stayed awake until Windows suddenly decided that it was time for a SCHEDULED REBOOT
< 1447628344 539762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if things are still wrong i'll try the recovery which should work now (it refused before because chkdsk wouldn't run)
< 1447628366 115658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i initially thought that was what happened yesterday.
< 1447628524 186387 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs... trying to find a copy of http://dx.doi.org/10.3233/FI-2009-0070 ...

< 1447628735 692409 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gwjabcghnleqfclm QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1447628807 919991 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PART #esoteric :"Fear Me"
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< 1447629220 821669 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1447629238 61401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: at least they're offering you to buy it
< 1447629290 158054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an expenses budget you can put it on
< 1447629297 727487 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447629409 265068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek IE isn't working right :(
< 1447629458 365727 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447629470 492289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh there it worked
< 1447629537 463587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the right thing to do is to email the author.
< 1447629816 455981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww IE also wiped out the visited link db
< 1447629850 943003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one thing it preserved for some reason was the url bar suggestions)
< 1447629867 545505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of non-permanent data, that is
< 1447629875 634919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good opportunity to switch browsers hth
< 1447629907 414829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not IE's fault that something messed up part of the disk
< 1447629908 624449 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a bad opportunity?
< 1447629921 27631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally i'm referring to Microsoft® Edge®
< 1447629933 688776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan ===\__/

< 1447629998 390848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i consider IE likely to be an innocent bystander in what happened.
< 1447630013 872079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1447630022 180249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not blaming any browser
< 1447630041 80937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a messed up update waiting to be retried, i vaguely recall those have caused unwanted reboots in the past.
< 1447630370 816659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45420&oldid=45313 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10fixed spelling of "Brainfuck"
< 1447630433 684141 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: pointless
< 1447630453 449218 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What?
< 1447630629 352890 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the change from brainf*** 
< 1447630716 932203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the preferred spelling for the wiki though, afair
< 1447630920 67417 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447631058 390624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: how do you feel about CHIQRSX9+ being used in code golf competitions? (In particular, in the seven competitions it has a good chance of winning.) <-- "not my problem if they allow it" hth
< 1447631181 885141 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, Q is unnecessary in a quine competition.
< 1447631208 344633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1447631219 512549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code golf: instantiate an object of a new subclass of the generic superclass, and also increment the accumulator twice
< 1447631299 586187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's very useful for a "print n copies of the program interspersed with Qs", though.  i think.  there may be restrictions on n.
< 1447631311 981200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+competition
< 1447631348 869588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :n=1 is trivial.
< 1447631377 834966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1447631417 796932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can print square numbers of Qs...
< 1447631508 591244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^2 = (i+1)*n - 1 hm i sense a problem
< 1447631519 961733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1447631530 87954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* i^2 = (n+1)*i - 1
< 1447631543 170254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not that useful.
< 1447631890 694022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sorry, did you specify a programming language?
< 1447631903 274600 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, no, but the hint is HQ9++
< 1447631906 519817 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help!
< 1447631906 730356 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wait... did you think of death as infinitely bad, if i happen to work out
< 1447631940 420561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come no one ever told me about fractran tdnh
< 1447631951 910656 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If fungot goes to the gym, does Pascal's Wager go the other way?
< 1447631952 59214 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it seems prometheus objects are circular data structures
< 1447631953 980199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oh. I'm not sure I ever saw that one. (I did know HQ9 and HQ9+)
< 1447631960 723131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PCG will allow it as soon as a deterministic interpreter exists I think. Just have X be a TM simulator instead
< 1447631974 343695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good language
< 1447632264 108969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i feel that a deterministic X is against the spirit of the language.
< 1447632319 222653 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if I found a seed for random numbers such that the current implementation becomes a TM simulator
< 1447632364 509983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would essentially make the part after X part of CHIQRSX9+ itself.
< 1447632382 992220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wait, are you saying that working out leads to death? I mean, okay, it's not wrong, but it is awful marketing nonetheless.
< 1447632383 854561 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: even ignoring the bootstrapping issues ( which yasos makes difficult while t does not contain any intelligible finnish words. reality. distortion. field. you can inflect adjectives, but that's not the lisp way of function application, to support thread interruption and user repl interruption. it costs like fnord a lot
< 1447632393 589405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the current implementation is a perl simulator if you get 0, hth
< 1447632425 322090 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how's that?
< 1447632448 814131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i suggest you look at it...
< 1447632449 49366 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(The Perl implementation generates a random number, adds it to each character in the program, and interprets the resulting program code as Perl code.)"
< 1447632459 134705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447632464 456279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or read ... and believe ... the wiki)
< 1447632482 911132 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking it just executed the output of the random number generator directly
< 1447632488 808832 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad memory
< 1447632516 400651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : how come no one ever told me about fractran tdnh <-- my apologies
< 1447632535 831722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be interesting but less obviously turing complete... in fact, unlikely to be turing complete... uh, hard to say... but there's not much entropy to work with.
< 1447632573 120306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we're not supposed to know whether or not it is actually turing-complete anyway
< 1447632607 484879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night, all
< 1447632615 949867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose one could write a program in the current version that is a TM simulator regardless of the random number
< 1447632622 963832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanite
< 1447632649 294162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: accepted tdh
< 1447632651 551664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make the part that becomes legible perl code consider the rest of the program a comment or string
< 1447632673 284700 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fwiw, I've seen oerjan talk about fractran quite a bit
< 1447632675 167232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, that is not possible; you always risk the first character becoming a perl syntax error. (e.g. a right parenthesis)
< 1447632686 554387 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1447632686 703224 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1447632702 340714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no way around that?
< 1447632719 434628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i must not have been paying attention
< 1447632729 594759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not present
< 1447632747 408240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's irc is the uncanny semi-sentient style... where one can typically read half a sentence before noticing anything wrong
< 1447632747 596583 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, i know
< 1447632754 4882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.  it's a modulo 256 addition and all numbers 0 <= n < 256 are possible
< 1447632758 897669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, that was a bit cheap
< 1447632759 214056 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't play ircnomic any more either side of the force, of course. i just need to find out how to
< 1447632767 560417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ircnomic, eh.
< 1447632788 113891 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: anyway, good luck with finding that out
< 1447632788 458619 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that name fnord not the only) languages where the very nature *is* to be esoteric.... seems like it was before i moved here
< 1447632815 971336 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that first response was just beautiful
< 1447632818 62510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: although you could try to aim for maximal probability of being accepted...
< 1447632842 603957 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoteadd  fungot's irc is the uncanny semi-sentient style... where one can typically read half a sentence before noticing anything wrong   int-e: yes, i know
< 1447632842 789302 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: how do i pipe darcs' output to it? if it matters
< 1447632843 399837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteadd: not found
< 1447632846 72966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not that the other styles are that bad, but they do stand out more)
< 1447632851 395086 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what does the current implementation do if such a syntax error is encountered?
< 1447632857 594172 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  fungot's irc is the uncanny semi-sentient style... where one can typically read half a sentence before noticing anything wrong   int-e: yes, i know
< 1447632857 884377 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: all planets are in the order of evaluation? isn't that like saying sociology is mostly english and not writing anything
< 1447632859 983023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1259)  fungot's irc is the uncanny semi-sentient style... where one can typically read half a sentence before noticing anything wrong   int-e: yes, i know
< 1447632866 831476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there no way to catch such an error?
< 1447632892 565651 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447632899 661706 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's mean, my grammar there is worse than fungot's.
< 1447632900 209596 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you sensitive twit. if a robot collides with a piece of c folklore now. compiler implementors still talk of " mimicing monty python sketches, of course, my owner has to find any
< 1447632911 379079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whatever perl's eval does, so i'm not sure...
< 1447632917 359730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION weeps.

< 1447632927 96054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e eval(")"); eval(print "hi");
< 1447632927 864380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1447632940 714962 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twit
< 1447632941 593932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447632944 651369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah it does at least continue with the remaining commands.
< 1447632956 155200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming it works as in my test)
< 1447632967 699436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _might_ be enough to make it work?
< 1447632970 108405 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a twit is someone who twiits
< 1447632992 821184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a twitter?
< 1447633003 359757 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably someone who twitters
< 1447633014 723735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a twitter is someone who turns people into twits
< 1447633026 548316 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, the act of twittering
< 1447633076 474484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to be fair, int-e never told me about it either
< 1447633086 20333 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't either :(
< 1447633086 944063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor did FireFly
< 1447633087 613852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i've not thought about that before, the implementation will _still_ interpret everything after X as commands, too
< 1447633092 365671 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fractran is an interesting language
< 1447633098 564189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including further Xes.
< 1447633113 782172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw, 'twit' is an actual english word)
< 1447633251 384543 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn twit
< 1447633253 174092 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "twit" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1447633253 322731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :twit
< 1447633253 322826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: someone who is regarded as contemptible [syn: {twerp},
< 1447633253 322861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {twirp}, {twit}]
< 1447633253 322891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    2: aggravation by deriding or mocking or criticizing [syn:
< 1447633255 176623 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines]
< 1447633258 404069 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn twitter
< 1447633259 524144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "twitter" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1447633259 673340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter
< 1447633261 177356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: a series of chirps [syn: {chirrup}, {twitter}]
< 1447633263 179673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    v 1: make high-pitched sounds, as of birds [syn: {chitter},
< 1447633265 185543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {twitter}]
< 1447633327 420536 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aggravation by deriding or mocking or criticizing" <-- that does sound like a fair description of twitter(.com).
< 1447633330 567232 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447633365 476735 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you figured it out. The true etymology
< 1447633443 545198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: actually the implementation errors out at unknown commands, that makes this harder i think.
< 1447633498 398643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9+ XXXXXXXXXXXXX
< 1447633516 352367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it had this
< 1447633519 499906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo hi
< 1447633521 48082 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1447633529 969262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9+ XXXXXXXXXXXXXQ
< 1447633540 598025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help interps
< 1447633540 789698 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for interps!
< 1447633546 443215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1447633546 638184 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1447633557 117863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1447633557 304714 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd glogbot_ignore google graph hello helloworld hug id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf san
< 1447633561 548982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447633569 874364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p XXXXXXXXXXXXX
< 1447633570 366414 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447633574 149509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p XXXXXXXXXXXXXQ
< 1447633574 444230 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447633578 402160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1447633585 391790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p QQ
< 1447633585 689959 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :QQ \ QQ
< 1447633595 786867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p XX
< 1447633596 64732 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447633600 395906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p QXX
< 1447633600 675282 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :QXX
< 1447633715 162018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it _does_ clear the program.
< 1447633720 262047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p XH
< 1447633720 548838 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447633727 135476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no chance then.
< 1447633883 667844 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it clears the program and then adds the empty program to the random number?
< 1447633904 98235 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound even *theoretically* TC
< 1447633962 105550 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can test all seeds ;)
< 1447634056 646847 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean an error clears the program
< 1447634197 302685 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :soo... would a machine be Turing-complete if any program had only a 2^(-32) chance of running correctly? This kind of adversarial randomness is quite unusual...
< 1447634254 398936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447634257 927392 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Usually you'd get a chance detect and retry a failed computation, but I don't see how this would work here)
< 1447634288 337271 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not that unusual
< 1447634290 766851 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean
< 1447634316 328049 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earliest programmable computers quit working if a moth flew into them...
< 1447634348 228484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the odds they produced a correct result was greater than 2^(-32) but I also think it is in this case
< 1447634656 253525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess I'm thinking in terms of models of computation; the point of those is to abstract from hardware failures and resource limitations. In that context, probabilistic models typically allow to get success probabilities arbitrarily close to one, usually by retrying a procedure with a fixed success probability often enough.
< 1447634713 866338 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb
< 1447634746 976482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's perhaps narrow-minded... people trying to guess pin codes are happy even with low success probabilities if they have enough debit cards at their disposal.
< 1447634966 92528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447636377 121449 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow this made me smile... http://www.surlyqueen.net/loas/2015/03/05/558-somewhere/
< 1447636392 189149 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Harley's a cat)
< 1447636674 942949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh you mean an error clears the program <-- i mean an X clears the program after running the rest as perl, error or not.
< 1447636845 215967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i intended, i just didn't realize on rereading the code that i'd succeeded.
< 1447636883 713951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ideally maybe errors should be propagated too.
< 1447637140 495191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447637335 776972 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447637559 622697 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guzjswrkrhrqtlqk QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447637599 653687 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjovsuazhbrubddo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447637852 474875 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447637931 345355 :cnr!~connor@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447637931 501568 :cnr!~connor@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 QUIT :Changing host
< 1447637931 501602 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447637973 623557 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1447637999 944924 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tnulywipqmyjqrrw JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447638400 204633 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447638828 351552 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447639898 391225 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so the whole "keep executing after an error" is a bust. Which means there is some maximum p<1 probability the X will do anything useful.
< 1447639959 168621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1447640859 346922 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447641056 324641 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yvcznwihenbociqc JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447641420 767535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/*S*
< 1447641421 605830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nose such file or directory
< 1447641427 370669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*S*
< 1447641428 500283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ENOSTRIL
< 1447641443 278644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ENOSTRIL
< 1447641445 214923 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447641447 524390 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1447641463 666411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all wisdom/ is case lowered by default
< 1447641470 661223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*automatically
< 1447641476 786034 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1447641481 46091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and boily for some reason rejected that
< 1447641494 649947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it means it will never show up with `? that way
< 1447641512 908798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers `wisdom borderline heresy

< 1447641550 450286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1447641556 884379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/wisdom
< 1447641557 709980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom/*"$1"* -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447641564 725631 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong
< 1447641568 176542 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :very wrong
< 1447641595 205563 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is rnooodl?
< 1447641602 607693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/shuf/grep -v "[A-Z]" | shuf' bin/wisdom
< 1447641603 502181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 29: unterminated `s' command
< 1447641611 858343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/shuf/grep -v "[A-Z]/" | shuf' bin/wisdom
< 1447641612 691493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 23: unknown option to `s'
< 1447641615 13066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1447641623 462116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/shuf/grep -v "[A-Z]" | shuf/' bin/wisdom
< 1447641626 19405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447641631 34986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom
< 1447641631 791287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom/*"$1"* -type f | grep -v "[A-Z]" | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447641635 606082 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still wrong
< 1447641641 297402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so
< 1447641643 332889 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447641650 678379 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"$1"* -> "*$1*"
< 1447641668 103296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, no?
< 1447641671 740477 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm yes
< 1447641726 570369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom/"*wisdom*" -type f
< 1447641727 531295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*wisdom*': No such file or directory
< 1447641737 987530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom/*"wisdom"* -type f
< 1447641739 51205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom \ wisdom/wisdom \ wisdom/wisdome
< 1447641744 661944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely no.
< 1447641767 176118 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also wrong in that it should use -name
< 1447641781 61563 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -name "*wisdom*" -type f
< 1447641782 319109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom \ wisdom/wisdome \ wisdom/wisdom
< 1447641812 393396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/* | grep '[*]'
< 1447641824 384318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/brainf**k
< 1447641852 50275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom **
< 1447641853 109423 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447641853 676914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainf**k/There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck.
< 1447641864 721240 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole point of find over a shell glob in cases like this is to avoid E2BIG
< 1447641948 766893 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447641959 670843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it would break the vital case of `wisdom ** hth
< 1447641973 962621 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1447641989 127018 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see...
< 1447641994 904058 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say "break" tho
< 1447642017 339048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it's sort of properly ironic.
< 1447642085 656163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1447642092 827234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/?
< 1447642093 655692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \     then cat /dev/urandom; \     elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \     then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \     elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \     then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \     
< 1447642108 369268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom
< 1447642108 939176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom/*"$1"* -type f | grep -v "[A-Z]" | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447642169 661031 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodl
< 1447642170 535244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling
< 1447642174 167115 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodl
< 1447642174 968597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl is the correct spelling
< 1447642185 866923 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: rnooodl is a very important program
< 1447642197 542625 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl
< 1447642197 756740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'
< 1447642204 159245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk/x bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*"$(echo "$1" | lowercase)"*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447642205 271073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/mk/x: No such file or directory
< 1447642211 317207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1447642215 849331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*"$(echo "$1" | lowercase)"*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447642218 569679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wisdom
< 1447642227 983190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom wisdom
< 1447642229 108137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom/It is now.
< 1447642237 853246 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mkx
< 1447642238 738177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" && chmod +x "$key"
< 1447642278 830799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom misspellings of
< 1447642279 752495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: paths must precede expression: of* \ Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression] \ /cat: : No such file or directory
< 1447642283 103896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1447642324 366260 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/nooodl
< 1447642325 213292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/nooodl: No such file or directory
< 1447642328 392689 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noodl
< 1447642329 67071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/noodl: No such file or directory
< 1447642333 419297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*""$(echo "$1" | lowercase)""*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447642335 262417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wisdom
< 1447642338 425796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom misspellings of
< 1447642339 704759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of croissant/misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447642342 149419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1447642346 588984 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on making a program to autogenerate my font character inventory page
< 1447642360 308124 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was auto generated already
< 1447642373 811092 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just add characters manually each time
< 1447642391 813647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that looks redundant
< 1447642399 571561 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why sometimes there are errors like characters in the font but not on the page, or vice versa
< 1447642406 13641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/wisdom//F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl
< 1447642408 79252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wisdom
< 1447642410 798890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom misspellings of
< 1447642411 903872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of croissant/misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447642418 242156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb
< 1447642419 586057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventory/The Tanebventory is big. Really big. For one thing, it contains a Hilbert hotel.
< 1447642419 758187 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean generating it via php every time it's requested?
< 1447642459 33853 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it probably won't overload your server but still <.<
< 1447642548 39466 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447642560 720565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447642561 990980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship/friendship wisdom
< 1447642727 24237 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447643275 842590 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: nah, i'll generate it each time I upload a new version of my font. 
< 1447643412 310250 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise choice
< 1447643593 122895 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote this:  http://arin.ga/anwWvN/raw
< 1447643608 167456 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the best pieces of bash code i've ever written
< 1447643614 923224 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding
< 1447643617 180167 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm proud of it
< 1447643625 740409 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.165.69 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447643669 259297 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrote it to show how clear looking bash can be        (and there's a hidden trick that makes it possible and that trick is the part i'm proud of)
< 1447643764 478334 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find it you win a unicorn*
< 1447643765 557747 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447643775 793704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unicorn is pink and invisible
< 1447644573 686415 :Intellygent!80f0e153@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.128.240.225.83 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447644937 19024 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The return value perhaps?
< 1447644945 516500 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is a global `return`, seems kinda icky
< 1447644963 313267 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another way to return is echo and $( )
< 1447644981 710262 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do that
< 1447645020 909598 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't work
< 1447645040 887580 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use of "$@" to pass on all args?
< 1447645056 506586 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... just what $@ does?
< 1447645078 383264 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway every variable you affect in $( ) is lost afterwards
< 1447645092 328685 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't swap things in the array with $( )
< 1447645186 65509 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the trick is to use $A[i] in  (( ))
< 1447645194 51933 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name of the array being passed in
< 1447645200 258006 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeah that
< 1447645226 134209 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$A[i] is not an array, $A expands to the name, followed by [i]
< 1447645231 534702 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (( )) uses it as an array
< 1447645237 178942 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's the magic thing \o/
< 1447645311 348423 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447645318 930474 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(( )) is kinda weird
< 1447645329 38169 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks so natural :D
< 1447645453 244730 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS
< 1447645458 121649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm
< 1447645460 584291 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447645464 381454 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat :D
< 1447645477 310819 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa they're a shitload
< 1447645507 720254 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there're
< 1447645543 333570 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in my better spelling system DerR
< 1447645624 293005 :Intellygent!80f0e153@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.128.240.225.83 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
< 1447645637 482194 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447645639 799329 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see some of them
< 1447645644 938925 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 5568 characters
< 1447645649 951610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat.. your font supports some characters that render incorrectly for me in the .txt file
< 1447645650 798673 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :some chineese characters
< 1447645653 419298 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: some are glitched
< 1447645683 487166 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a missing one in the 4th line from the bottom in the chineese characters rectangle
< 1447645692 109909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ἖἗⯠⯡𐐦𐐧
< 1447645694 518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F16  - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: e1 bc 96  UTF-16BE: 1f16  Decimal: ἖ \ ἖ (἖) \ Uppercase: U+1F16 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) \  \ U+1F17  - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: e1 bc 97  UTF-16BE: 1f17  Decimal: ἗ \ ἗ (἗) \ Uppercase: U+1F17 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigne
< 1447645724 357011 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe you have some private-use characters?
< 1447645728 89533 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you should add a sample text to show it
< 1447645730 514202 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :἖἗ these two I drew based on the pattern set by the others in its block
< 1447645806 358269 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some characters are private use, others I simply stole from innocent blocks for my own use
< 1447645898 713649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. ➀➁➂➃➄➅➆➇➈➉ which I drew instead as lowercase numbers
< 1447646015 21953 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a sample $language text near the $language characters
< 1447646025 908230 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTF has ways to encode alternate character sets for things like text numerals
< 1447646051 214070 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah...
< 1447646079 275466 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to stay far away from things like that
< 1447646113 885988 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard enough to draw all these characters without mucking with various technicalia 
< 1447646166 412661 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair
< 1447646236 9489 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good sample text
< 1447646410 657027 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :we the people etc
< 1447646457 852793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447646494 370339 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markus Kuhn has one
< 1447646549 347243 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#examples 
< 1447646606 66683 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447646839 172791 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just imagined a pan-Unicode bitmap font which is initially randomly constructed then optimized so that each glyph has a distinct shape (even by one pixel) while minimizing the differences to the source font
< 1447647407 967548 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm << updated with some sample texts
< 1447647447 419570 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the runes one say?
< 1447647518 187674 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first stanza of this http://www.ragweedforge.com/rpaa.html
< 1447647548 293440 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1447648547 670320 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the autogeneration rpgram is here http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfinvread.htm
< 1447648595 654594 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please use a syntax highlighter that understands 0x80
< 1447648711 992033 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed
< 1447648748 754307 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better
< 1447648862 663462 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you check newlinemode in a loop but you never change its value inside of it
< 1447648881 524328 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1447648913 139647 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newlinemode is used to determine when a newline should be used, to format the characters into rows
< 1447648947 462377 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode 0 is used for areas of scattered characters like the chinese
< 1447648964 100727 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode 1 is used for blocks of characters that are all defines
< 1447649310 646131 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what is a purpose of U+038D and U+03A2?
< 1447649318 812129 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(looking at http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm )
< 1447649799 143030 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447650756 916464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Gregor: did esolangs.org's certificate just expire
< 1447650867 24577 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-83-64.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447650957 235652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it
< 1447651151 554663 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447651399 17910 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fizzie: I hear Let's Encrypt exists.
< 1447651518 135335 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in beta
< 1447651540 713155 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning you need an invite
< 1447651629 796222 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it's a maker's mark
< 1447653211 358894 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I know, I wondered what U+038D reads (it actually said VER 8 in the vertical reading) at first. now the question is: why is it there? :)
< 1447653223 230254 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. not U+F8FF or similar)
< 1447653650 90464 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because originally I was usign fontstruct.com to make my font, and it doesn't support the privat euse area
< 1447653805 804925 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving.
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< 1447654510 350965 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, interesting.
< 1447654526 909639 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are you interested in supporting all Hanguls?
< 1447654609 905194 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually
< 1447654629 3507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* my computer rebooted again.
< 1447654630 507553 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not until i finish all joyo kanji
< 1447654666 202001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i did a stupid choice that i too late realized would wipe out much _more_ than i intended - and somehow it failed to go through.
< 1447654689 533954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's see if i can find the recovery option i actually wanted.
< 1447654782 557976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, the recovery points have been wiped out.
< 1447654967 738350 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat
< 1447655043 686504 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut it down and boot a rescue disk, backup your shit
< 1447655051 428764 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then nuke it
< 1447655094 610377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting proposition, if i had a rescue disk.
< 1447655104 267595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a disk at all.
< 1447655158 193449 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usb stick?
< 1447655179 549322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one, somewhere.  no idea where it is after the move.
< 1447655210 815402 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, can you transplant the drive into a working computer?
< 1447655226 70569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have only one computing device
< 1447655294 986131 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1447655432 20982 :izabera!~izabera@ec2-52-25-138-238.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447655432 212612 :izabera!~izabera@ec2-52-25-138-238.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Changing host
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< 1447655437 153954 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... hard to do without a second computer, but you could maybe burn a disk at an internet cafe?
< 1447655479 185715 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am creating my most esoteric language yet
< 1447655480 837035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop making suggestions.
< 1447655488 780292 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :consisting of only ^ and v
< 1447655497 3440 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i finnaly decided how its going to work
< 1447655582 385630 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447655878 488283 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< This server could not prove that it is esolangs.org; its security certificate expired 1 day(s) ago.
< 1447655939 826274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03PixelToast 5*  10New user account
< 1447656233 413847 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :das me
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< 1447657724 434975 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-214-121-8.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1447658143 43269 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447658146 877045 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1447658270 733709 :glowcoil__!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-derwtegrlyczkvuw NICK :glowcoil
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< 1447659936 410978 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447661926 843362 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not
< 1447661928 556281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond
< 1447661961 751041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor hoffmann
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< 1447662303 404488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that a complete list?
< 1447662496 650117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course.
< 1447662672 748369 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447663114 517287 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@46.165.222.248 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447663329 918945 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :etc
< 1447663360 910592 :etc!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrix
< 1447663367 399090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph it is downloading that broken upgrade again...
< 1447663871 789040 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@46.165.222.248 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447664117 530979 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh nice, you've improved the sample page
< 1447664125 325947 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL
< 1447664352 926961 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@46.165.222.248 QUIT :
< 1447664435 359960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in the autogenerated list of all characters, can you list the total count of glyphs you have in the font, computed automatically?
< 1447664557 403065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, in the sample texts, can you add some Serbian or Macedonian etc text that shows off the ј and ѓ characters?
< 1447664597 358873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: incidentally, does the cyrillic Ј and the latin J look the same in your font?
< 1447664675 949849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, do the cyrillic Ѕ and І look the same as the latin S and I resp? 
< 1447665021 346686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that s/the ј and ѓ characters/the ј, ѓ, љ, њ characters/
< 1447665079 336547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I saw an expiration warning from StartSSL but didn't think of esolangs.org. Annoying.
< 1447665152 428366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd really prefer let senc rypt, but their public beta doesn't start until Dec 3rd.
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< 1447669926 867188 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flute
< 1447669957 572148 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oboe
< 1447670391 880199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heckelphone.
< 1447671595 827431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is buggy
< 1447671601 812142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sousaphone
< 1447671603 332412 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sousaphone? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447671609 730205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tuning
< 1447671610 654368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuning? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447671614 626329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oboe
< 1447671614 774998 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and if it still is.
< 1447673145 4525 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447675970 446295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your favourite woodwind instrument? 
< 1447675970 779935 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you probably know, but that wasn't my point, of course. that's what lexical scope is highly useful for debugging which you can only move in fnord in slib.
< 1447675993 702406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, I don't know, that's why was asking.
< 1447675993 850991 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: too far? what's that
< 1447676043 73730 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concerto in Fnord minor for a Lexical Scope.
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< 1447678502 206452 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedgewick writes in comic sans http://www.sorting-algorithms.com/static/QuicksortIsOptimal.pdf
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< 1447679695 50172 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a legible font.
< 1447679734 591933 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\'s would be too, if not for that s.
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< 1447682866 851505 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/6cXwaMG    prettyyyyy *_*
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< 1447683089 558393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot: oh wow
< 1447683614 522720 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: looks like a rare steak
< 1447683648 378200 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot? I mean izabera
< 1447683659 970363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at tab-completing on this client
< 1447684056 56014 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447687641 58661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/RG7Kd is cute... and a puzzle: 1) in which direction did the camera scan the image? 2) how many rotor blades are there? 3) how many rotations did the propellor make while the picture was scanned?
< 1447689441 326677 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447691005 90436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :RING THE OBELL!
< 1447691031 437049 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan: ring the obell
< 1447691087 304829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist overflow
< 1447691088 161876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist overflow: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
< 1447691107 521504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"overflow"?
< 1447691112 312065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, N+1 might have been closer to my intention
< 1447691124 477203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read oots, I have no clue what the current number is.
< 1447691155 37128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainfuckX14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45421 5* 03Gemdude46 5* (+1569) 10Created page with "BrainfuckX is an extension of brainfuck that is backwards compatible with all uncommented brainfuck programs.  Cells are unsigned bytes. Cell pointer starts in the leftmost ce..."
< 1447691184 179025 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now the bell is rung.
< 1447691267 836615 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deserving of an obell prize
< 1447693522 415221 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't know what too far means
< 1447693522 600608 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i find that bugs are easy to do,
< 1447693540 454225 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introducing bugs is easy, introducing security vulnerabilites is hard work.
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< 1447696462 535220 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't read oots, I have no clue what the current number is. ← 1000 I believe
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< 1447697574 691321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to be trying out for University Challenge again

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< 1447698533 870364 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's above 1000, but thereabout
< 1447698553 889604 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1012 apparently
< 1447698695 600466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. that means it will probably be just short of the round number by the end of the year
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< 1447698846 87484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed
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< 1447700675 539511 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I gave your puzzle some thought. 1) If I'm correct in assuming/guessing the propeller is rotating clockwise, then: from right to left. 2) 3 (every vertical line never crosses more than two different propeller slices) 3) around 2 and one thirds. (7 distinctive propeller... Shrugs, spacetime sections divided by 3, and some "feeling about the angles.")
< 1447700680 808719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Spatial logic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45422 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+430) 10Created first paragraph
< 1447700893 2857 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: sounds about right (though my guess is more like 5/3 turns)
< 1447701370 891891 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, how do you figure?
< 1447702119 865789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07WARP14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45423&oldid=43695 5* 03210.86.93.89 5* (+11) 10Point to github repo for source
< 1447702126 729003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did OK in the University Challenge try-out
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< 1447702218 41989 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the show itself, or the chance to reprisent your uni?
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< 1447702323 104049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: well, I picture it as this, the 7th blade is the same as the 1st blade, so when the 7th blade makes it to where the 1st blade started, then we'll have two full turns... but there's still some way to go before that happens.
< 1447702333 925833 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: the latter
< 1447702338 375128 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of York
< 1447702490 565379 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jcjbxbrcspyjgtgg QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447702551 118341 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I see it is that's nor really a 7tth blade, only A B C passing where the line scanned through. Any group of three of those sections have to be A B and C in sequence... wait I think I'm coming round
< 1447702555 497798 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I
< 1447702582 752645 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm counting when I sound maybe be measuring area.Okay.
< 1447702638 658633 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's awesome. Used to watch University Challenge all the time.
< 1447702653 415269 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried out last year, didn't do very well
< 1447702664 824136 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've done a little bit better this year, but I don't know yet
< 1447702719 504637 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447702723 734829 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlucky questions?
< 1447702749 121355 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, your group's members each have their specialty, right?
< 1447702762 798174 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is still at the individual try-out stage
< 1447702773 581443 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"your black cat just broke your mirror.  what do you do?"
< 1447702789 178568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy a knew mirror
< 1447702793 312773 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :*new
< 1447702803 840300 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's option a
< 1447702806 894795 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder when I got a cat
< 1447702808 310063 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :option b is bleach the cat 
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< 1447702849 959982 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C?
< 1447702851 298179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh...
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< 1447702892 944013 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is just a boring "none of the previous answers"
< 1447702904 610726 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please specify)
< 1447702912 520576 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think option b is illegal under animal cruelty laws
< 1447702918 17295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Temporal logic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45424 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1246) 10Created page with main paragraph, section on paths, and defining operators based on Wiki's list
< 1447702962 810355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but your cat just granted you e^pi years of bad luck so it's kinda justified
< 1447702970 646156 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cruelty to the unlucky black cat. Not the new white cat you have. So no victim, no crime.
< 1447702993 495253 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some places black cats are good luck!
< 1447703009 795864 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in oppositeland
< 1447703015 553901 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :China probably.
< 1447703021 425979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious where
< 1447703035 733257 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the UK, I believe
< 1447703049 153172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.nichtlustig.de/toondb/010929.html "sorry, but did you see my cat? it is a black cat. pitch black. black." - "with that attitude you'll never find it"
< 1447703070 172542 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: huh, curious
< 1447703102 884659 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always found de:ganz funny, because sv:ganska means "somewhat"
< 1447703105 260812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Japan, apparently
< 1447703112 113905 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure how to add the "verkrampft")
< 1447703135 315075 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"narrow minded"?
< 1447703136 702203 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: seems like one of the less funny comics from him
< 1447703160 251426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: interesting, it's one of my favorites actually
< 1447703187 545976 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now fight
< 1447703193 514780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in any case I was just reacting to the idea of bleaching the cat
< 1447703237 611543 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "narrow-minded" fits
< 1447703259 964357 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should add it to my new webcomiclist nontheless
< 1447703268 290820 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like ruthe more, actually
< 1447703319 401540 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :entschuldigung == sorry?  wtf
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< 1447703371 726870 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :common words are short, so germans probably don't say sorry very often
< 1447703372 961246 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447703378 542447 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Knowledge Logic"
< 1447703394 256448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common sense?
< 1447703408 586090 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A logic that is interpreted as being executed by a set of entities, each of which has knowledge about the state of variables
< 1447703412 153214 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i do think a long word actually suits it very good
< 1447703414 166885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including false knowledge
< 1447703430 174015 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you say it, you probably mean it more than if you just say sorry
< 1447703443 63708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's funny you say that... I say "sorry" a lot more often than "entschuldigung" :P
< 1447703502 51748 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do too (although with "ursäkta" instead, which is our word for the same thing)... it's interesting, sometimes I've had people reply to me in english due to it
< 1447703506 485098 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, entschuldigung makes sense since it comes from schuld. something that's your fault, that you want to neutralize
< 1447703507 748795 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A programming language which's type system is based on Knowledge Logic would be strongly-typed, but you could lie to the type checker xD
< 1447703513 365814 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hope it doesn't find out
< 1447703552 288561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sounds great
< 1447703558 752829 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yep.
< 1447703562 864105 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like people
< 1447703565 722663 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go invent Knowledge Logic now
< 1447703575 389690 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: It is, to some degree. It's useful for human interactions
< 1447703614 551080 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the entities infer stuff for themselves?
< 1447703624 932229 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: They could. Maybe.
< 1447703649 432650 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, then their logic would have to be different from Knoledge logic.
< 1447703664 111257 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge logic is already a tjing
< 1447703669 482582 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1447703699 437021 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Do you mean the name or the idea?
< 1447703754 122223 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname?
< 1447703773 673388 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hppavilion.
< 1447703803 843901 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: ?
< 1447703815 640750 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's myname.
< 1447703826 698342 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am?
< 1447703830 665241 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea, i am not sure what itks named
< 1447703835 676332 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447703843 451046 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used it on an AI course last semester
< 1447703849 105416 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I was making a low effort joke. :P
< 1447703896 906041 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemic_logic?
< 1447703933 566384 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other weird stuff we could we do with formal logic?
< 1447703956 744364 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :modal logic is fun
< 1447703957 254777 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemic_modal_logic
< 1447703961 629426 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1447703970 254488 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modal logic rules
< 1447704007 380399 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about making a language based on it is the fact that you can easily checl its correctness
< 1447704030 184328 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's Time logic. And there's fuzzy logic. But there's no fuzzy time logic, ie drunk logic... yet.
< 1447704049 611850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoToTell: Temporal Loigc?
< 1447704062 547822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about that xD. That's my favorite logic
< 1447704070 851194 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sorry" is very common in dutch, somehow
< 1447704073 25714 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the word.
< 1447704077 420282 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though Temporal Knowledge Logic could be cool, or "Learning Logic"
< 1447704081 948808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dutch are naturally apologetic
< 1447704130 233389 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only explanation
< 1447704415 94446 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447704436 788494 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we make combinatory versions of normal logics?
< 1447704442 206423 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combinatory Temporal Logic?
< 1447704509 36664 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447704557 679557 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447705176 492007 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apologetic Logic"
< 1447705181 384828 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :S[b]x
< 1447705196 382194 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Read: Sorry, but x :,( |)
< 1447705217 69486 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I HAVE SOLVED ENDING A PARENTHETICAL STATEMENT WITH AN EMOTICON KIND OF! WHOO! :) |)
< 1447705291 577457 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you aren't sorry?
< 1447705311 588889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Spatial logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45425&oldid=45422 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+480) 10Some stuff
< 1447705324 868066 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Then you don't use the "Sorry but" operator
< 1447705338 239315 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an additional operator, not an additional one
< 1447705348 319362 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does it do
< 1447705358 613645 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447705446 649467 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apology used to mean "in defense of" so maybe an apologetic function could maybe not only return results, but also highlights of it did toi get that result.
< 1447705603 776998 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 aNAND 0 would return [1, "there was a 0", sorry"]
< 1447705990 935328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45426 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+590) 10Created Page, now to figure out the Φ combinator
< 1447706038 798147 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It allows you to establish an arbitrary new axiom to fix it? Or something?
< 1447706073 526621 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick is that you can't do ":/x; ~x"
< 1447706082 529090 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would be a contradiction, and that is bad.
< 1447706226 828950 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was actually the idea of a friend of mine to make something like a game where everybody mixes in axioms until they contradict
< 1447706253 136150 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can either add an axiom or call the previous player a liar
< 1447706271 728768 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the previous player can disprove you, you are out. otherwise it's him
< 1447706397 738744 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :flawed
< 1447706485 382423 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when a player is unable to find a proof that the previous player is lying?
< 1447706522 749913 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's his problem
< 1447706529 176183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447706620 42100 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to find the oldest lie?
< 1447706737 243172 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lies, B can't disprove A, B doesn't lie, C finds a flaw that's caused by what A said, B is out, remove what B said and replace it with what C says
< 1447706758 606921 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system is still contradictory so D can disprove C
< 1447706764 292023 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on
< 1447706765 620788 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wins
< 1447706783 722992 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447706791 811056 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A invents non euclidian geometry, B tries for 2000 years to disprove it.
< 1447706939 480245 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well, yeah.
< 1447707023 994663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45427&oldid=45426 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1306) 10Combinators (α and β)
< 1447707068 860205 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if C can prove that A was lying, can e remove both B and A?  i.e. everything since the oldest lie
< 1447707080 27278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45428&oldid=45427 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10/* Combinators */ Fixed convention
< 1447707085 318383 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447707321 133986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45429&oldid=45428 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+384) 10Examples
< 1447707382 542459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45430&oldid=45429 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10/* Combinators */ Fixed convention. Again. The same convention. In the same place. It didn't take.
< 1447707476 768911 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447707593 858201 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be discussed. but i think B should.be removed because he couldn't disprove A
< 1447707602 917642 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a missplay
< 1447707608 114339 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447707613 520863 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mis
< 1447707642 41224 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a timeout?
< 1447707836 201795 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't set any
< 1447707851 614360 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itks already hard enough
< 1447707884 479141 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My grammar for CTL (Combinatory Temporal Logic) has a quirk: You can apply a combinator to an assignment (e.g. `K(I=SKK)`). What should this do?
< 1447707911 514215 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I know what it has to do
< 1447708017 987430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45431&oldid=45430 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1496) 10Grammar and semantics
< 1447708052 919383 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interesting part is that they must be axioms
< 1447708086 885032 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess player C can remove player B from the game if C can prove that what B said follows from what A said
< 1447708210 801550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45432&oldid=45418 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+627) 10Grammar, in case anyone is wondering.
< 1447708211 915172 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not only lies, but also theorems get you expelled
< 1447708242 605078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45433&oldid=45432 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2) 10Fixed the location of the grammar
< 1447708351 874373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Combinatory temporal logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45434&oldid=45431 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10/* Combinators */ Fixed the λ-calculular S definition
< 1447708415 574890 :Vinegar!Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447708563 332140 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 Found an article on how type systems are logics: https://codewords.recurse.com/issues/one/type-systems-and-logic
< 1447708563 520642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447708843 775566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45435&oldid=45433 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+50) 10Added a link to Combinatory temporal logic
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< 1447709587 22829 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@46.165.222.248 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447710527 196702 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriosly, why is 0 called either zero, oh or naught
< 1447710537 345059 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it alsways bites me
< 1447710695 487911 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1447710714 968349 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm through to the next stage of the trials for my uni's University Challenge team!
< 1447711565 507762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45436 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+3271) 10Started on the page
< 1447712055 848218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next round is on Saturday
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< 1447712484 934846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Them certificates should be renovated now.
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< 1447712599 442765 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@46.165.222.248 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1447712845 25275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1447712867 692286 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-obihbltkkobumsvw QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447712940 694911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit computer's doing something wrong again
< 1447713011 914913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my disk is completely shot.  at least i managed to backup yesterday.
< 1447713110 730124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh something reacted.
< 1447713183 188228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and windows asked me if i wanted to kill this process, which was seemingly the desktop.
< 1447713203 977356 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :systemd is not responding. kill it?
< 1447713218 264806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i expect it would normally restart?
< 1447713233 774621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i guess i have to do a hard shutdown. wish me luck.
< 1447713242 250560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck!
< 1447713306 193674 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447713584 326841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it rebooted.
< 1447713604 863691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am trying to let it download that big update again, and try once more.
< 1447713632 713392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this last desperate hope that if it would only go through, things would get fixed.
< 1447713658 255050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's downloading very slowly though.
< 1447713683 660242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's possible that some of the other surprise reboots happened when it finally downloaded.
< 1447713697 400168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then fails, and tries again.
< 1447713726 738020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but clearly that's not the only thing wrong.  my hope is that it's only a result of the update breaking the first time.
< 1447713770 181310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm if chkdsk at startup finds any errors, would it report it while running?
< 1447713784 957731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it definitely didn't.  in which case my disk might be fine.
< 1447713838 485349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message that it tried to get me to read before i shutdown hard disappeared after i did.
< 1447713856 989990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i couldn't get it to react to my button press on it, or almost anything else.)
< 1447713879 769407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :download went up from 76& to 77%
< 1447713971 714878 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447713977 574246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily
< 1447714059 476476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hm
< 1447714090 662289 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714096 59090 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœrjan.
< 1447714097 916903 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hm?
< 1447714103 638248 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]!
< 1447714114 818894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did the network icon change.
< 1447714146 665324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my computer is behaving weirdly, i'm currently blaming it on a half-gone-through windows update.
< 1447714181 254746 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something network complot.  effort
< 1447714211 525003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the network isn't the thing giving trouble, i think.
< 1447714251 115109 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does the Chicken Invocation Dance to get rid of oerjan's machine's demons

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< 1447714432 186645 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane
< 1447714457 93998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto restart because of detected problem
< 1447714457 242629 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447714477 730704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right, it was burning CPU.
< 1447714483 937487 :Xe!~xe@unaffiliated/xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447714487 511453 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714494 372023 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447714515 653419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it can actually _manage_ to reboot now...
< 1447714519 629956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, shutdown.
< 1447714542 341462 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714568 46326 :rntz!~rntz@pool-96-248-68-233.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714568 500138 :deltab!~deltab@cpc2-smal2-0-0-cust22.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714588 824742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fan is running hard again
< 1447714639 660257 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dances more

< 1447714723 790652 :Xe!xe@unaffiliated/xe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714733 488067 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714759 806664 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think your possibilities dwindled to only the Nuclear Manœuvre: strangulation by power button.
< 1447714774 964107 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447714816 416824 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmzghcssretfetdu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
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< 1447714938 825082 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715038 596959 :puck1pedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715076 328409 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715080 800971 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447715209 378022 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715211 9820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715213 109309 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715213 257864 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715213 710297 :ineiros_!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715214 353606 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1447715215 180719 :puck1pedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com NICK :puckipedia
< 1447715239 594746 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715249 41415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm going to have turn it off permanently.  bye soon...
< 1447715322 306008 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715336 867430 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715386 460442 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715476 274192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh and yes, i did.
< 1447715490 350523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it ran chkdsk, and _chkdsk_ locked up without finishing.
< 1447715501 822410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it rebooted and here i am, for the moment.
< 1447715535 367446 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447715599 974547 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447715601 473531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it must be a disk error, then. :(
< 1447715905 709716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible chkdsk did help for a while
< 1447716019 797908 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :backup and swap HDD...
< 1447716030 541272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first i need to get one
< 1447716105 474533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i backuped the important stuff to my nvg account yesterday.
< 1447716139 215077 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic#Computerized_version  do you guys know this?
< 1447716169 370302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION played schemenomic once.

< 1447716321 804481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny, my previous computer worked (reasonably) well for 7 years, this one breaks after 2 1/2...
< 1447716391 77538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if the download is supposed to be this slow, or it's just the disk causing it...
< 1447716424 858062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it _is_ a windows version upgrade.
< 1447716784 596702 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447717037 855848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45437&oldid=45370 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+150) 10/* Syntax */ Completely changed the syntax from normal fungoid to CSV
< 1447717389 300551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :90% download
< 1447717430 930280 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will look at Nomyx if it's still active

< 1447717435 91466 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds vaguely familiar
< 1447717558 877812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45438&oldid=45437 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+420) 10Fixed formatting error, adjusted data model
< 1447717707 207591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Treeng14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45439 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+376) 10Created Page
< 1447717736 747497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45440&oldid=45438 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10/* Data Model */ Fixed meanings
< 1447717883 100982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45441&oldid=45440 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+102) 10/* Commands */ Added Δs
< 1447717958 62328 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447718131 551408 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447718329 678729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1447718348 94349 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the most reliable compters I find are business laptops
< 1447718708 396351 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they build supercomputers out of
< 1447718712 631987 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lenovo thinkpads
< 1447718909 184072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA!
< 1447718913 873268 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYETOPIA!
< 1447718920 103888 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FLUTTERING CHICKEN
< 1447719024 352215 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluttring chicken?
< 1447721406 946289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh dear, i was vaguely thinking about Banjo...
< 1447722242 663370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :98%
< 1447722326 379277 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i call the unicode character identifier thingy?
< 1447722346 213739 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a bot here that did it
< 1447722397 815075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now it's starting to download something else too.
< 1447722673 454249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if so, there will be another tie, and how do they break that?
< 1447722690 354216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(banjo)
< 1447722709 406232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: `unidecode, you mean?
< 1447722720 771861 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode –
< 1447722721 526849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2013 EN DASH]
< 1447722725 174996 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah en dash
< 1447722726 768714 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1447722802 396553 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode x y z
< 1447722803 85822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+007A LATIN SMALL LETTER Z]
< 1447722810 232366 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1447722821 920439 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf this is wrong
< 1447722827 413136 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type unidecode
< 1447722827 985635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unidecode is /hackenv/bin/unidecode
< 1447722837 786164 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file /hackenv/bin/unidecode
< 1447722838 757406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/unidecode: Python script, ASCII text executable
< 1447722845 855901 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /hackenv/bin/unidecode
< 1447722846 507865 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import os, sys \ import unicodedata \ s = u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ if u"DUNNO" in s: \   os.execvp("multicode", ["multicode"] + sys.argv[1:]) \ else: \   print s
< 1447722901 611819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here goes nothing...
< 1447722908 425279 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it joining them with spaces?
< 1447722912 255117 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: why would it be wrong?
< 1447722913 638458 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid
< 1447722929 750007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, it gave up immediately.
< 1447724207 899398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should create a suite of programs demonstrating different abstract machines...
< 1447724308 374562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To teach people about CS
< 1447724344 846324 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that require like 40+ years of experience
< 1447724369 137995 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Is that directed at me?
< 1447724383 709020 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes...
< 1447724386 74 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't require THAT much experience to start on it. I mean, I understand the basic abstract machines
< 1447724394 117884 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is just an introductory thing for people
< 1447724436 527398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would cover things like Turing and Minsky machines
< 1447725026 607711 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447725492 490381 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadu!
< 1447725505 835895 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Halldu?)
< 1447725622 82546 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1447725686 384922 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I was attempting to say hi
< 1447725752 189646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course you were
< 1447725755 874183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: banjo, demigod of corrupt ops
< 1447725789 282115 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have my client notify me anytime my nick appeared anywhere, but I think I configured it only only match on words, because I was getting too many hits on "graduate"
< 1447725808 150329 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're also an adult
< 1447725817 357906 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: :/
< 1447725846 227348 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just learn to gradually ignore them
< 1447725861 300185 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1447725884 811422 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep adu /usr/share/dict/words
< 1447725885 409155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory
< 1447725886 883012 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447725888 958364 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww
< 1447725908 439626 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447725914 330053 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/3H3BbT/raw
< 1447725922 546373 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm trying to learn about Epistemic logic and Temporal logic, so I can mash them together into a horrible mess
< 1447725933 647291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Also, I invented Probabilistic Combinatory Logic.
< 1447725971 972583 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447725982 189373 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a property of the world I can invent a logic about
< 1447725994 827074 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :esprit du corps: spirit of the corpse
< 1447726003 929509 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Temporal logic is just regular logic plus the fermionic principle
< 1447726017 253213 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's logic of time xD
< 1447726033 633026 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I WOULD like to see wibbly wobbly temporal logic, which allows for time travel
< 1447726037 792705 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B|
< 1447726046 723973 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :timey wimy?
< 1447726057 821724 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Exactly
< 1447726074 505451 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats my favorite kind of logic :)
< 1447726085 319075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do you have any ideas for what I can make a logic about? Time and knowledge are definitely taken.
< 1447726098 269193 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "B" a reference to the new sonic shades?
< 1447726101 413041 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time/knowledge would be cool, but not original enough
< 1447726111 288240 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, it was just a coolface.
< 1447726121 817495 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spatial logic I tried, but it's kind of stupid
< 1447726135 504137 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EsoLogic perhaps?
< 1447726137 696377 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be cool
< 1447726138 528978 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you watch Dr.Who?
< 1447726142 203670 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1447726158 290491 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't know about the sonic shades?
< 1447726196 252629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447726220 134910 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Nope. I only watch it on netflix, because that's what I have access to
< 1447726236 640120 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought "sonic shades" was about a video game character xD)
< 1447726246 799486 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ a /the/
< 1447726253 47496 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ms/the/ the /
< 1447726331 557048 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have netflix
< 1447726348 360347 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically has all the B movies I never wanted to watch
< 1447726363 50050 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough
< 1447726402 558450 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of my favorite movies are still not on netflix
< 1447726425 862017 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Idiocracy, Serenity, Battlestar Galactica
< 1447726452 710895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Epistemic logic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45442 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+98) 10Created page, maybe possibly might make good someday perhaps
< 1447726487 138841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Epistemic logic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45443&oldid=45442 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+9) 10Stub
< 1447726493 624453 :andrew__!~andrew@183.37.16.123 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447726516 913227 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so does Epistemic logic cover X knows A, and Y knows B, so Z can't tell X C until Y tells Z D
< 1447726563 304356 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If you mix it with temporal logic and define some terms (e.g. "tell")
< 1447726566 384897 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yes
< 1447726578 371520 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make EsoLogic
< 1447726599 124783 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already sounds like cells and propogators
< 1447726794 997646 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my first thought was that it was the study of epistemology
< 1447726807 557216 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :epistemologyology
< 1447726850 575654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447726943 132654 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_constants  about this page
< 1447726981 935203 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one prove that there's no shorter sequence?
< 1447727054 624884 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shortest known
< 1447727060 488551 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they've been created by humans
< 1447727096 987626 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Alternatively, they could be brute forced by a computer
< 1447727192 531169 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a "language" that has 5 symbols: 'a'  '{'  ','  '}'  ' '
< 1447727208 324832 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do much
< 1447727238 572621 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a
< 1447727239 254760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1
< 1447727241 678899 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,}
< 1447727242 305188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2
< 1447727244 711979 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}
< 1447727245 753579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3
< 1447727248 457186 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}{,,}
< 1447727249 79136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9
< 1447727257 553493 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}{,,} a{,,,}{,,,}
< 1447727258 239477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25
< 1447727277 145466 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to find the shortest sequence that produces a given number
< 1447727333 26463 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for 25 there's "a{,,}{,,} a{,,,}{,,,}" but also "a{,,,,}{,,,,}" which is much shorter
< 1447727367 571778 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447727368 358444 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,{,}{,}}{,,,}
< 1447727369 86192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20
< 1447727369 459829 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447727383 250453 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1+2*2)*4.
< 1447727385 181056 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nesting them isn't particularly helpful
< 1447727395 170509 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yeah, I guess so
< 1447727416 565936 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from a few exceptions, finding the shortest sequence is easy for composite numbers
< 1447727423 629223 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :primes are harder
< 1447727488 789985 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,,}{,,,}{,,} a{,,}  # 51 as 48+3
< 1447727489 355246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51
< 1447727503 666424 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,,,}{,,,,}{,} a  # 51 as 50+1
< 1447727504 278950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51
< 1447727520 896076 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447727527 89120 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhm
< 1447727543 824127 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea other than bruteforcing it?
< 1447727674 515560 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447727850 242740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoLogic14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45444 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1244) 10Created Page
< 1447727907 536379 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EsoLogic is really just going to turn into a way to model the world.
< 1447727910 677778 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird.
< 1447727935 502444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoLogic14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45445&oldid=45444 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10Formatting
< 1447728082 844741 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I have experimented with a form of i*j*...-1
< 1447728098 65028 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is possible with {,a}{,a}...
< 1447728112 764874 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :show it?
< 1447728144 225939 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I couldn't come up with an example that gives a shorter result than an ordinary case
< 1447728160 347736 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447728217 319291 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I have an example of highly composite number: 69 = a{,,}{{,,}{,,,,,,},,}
< 1447728232 995138 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably this problem is not as easy as it seems
< 1447728259 899787 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447728263 719707 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right
< 1447728288 250034 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The max size for any number would be a: num a[,] a[,] a[,] ... and so on, right?
< 1447728316 979759 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :max size would be   a a a a a a a a
< 1447728330 629963 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for given n the upper bound is `a{}`
< 1447728342 333340 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for n=2
< 1447728345 17797 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1447728345 272851 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1
< 1447728390 637371 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have an max size then you can brute force all combination of multiplication and additions.
< 1447728492 188465 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmn, I wonder if it correlates to representing numbers in different bases.
< 1447728523 835470 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uhm
< 1447728561 472037 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll write the bruteforcer
< 1447728611 160162 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1447728642 294694 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always fun to code, if nothing else.
< 1447728735 592748 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447728955 244814 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also dumb and forgot that 51 isn't prime
< 1447729027 718287 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny enough, 50+1 is shorter than 3*17
< 1447729035 904187 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` factor 51
< 1447729036 792314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51: 3 17
< 1447729041 60068 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}{{,,}{,,,,},,}  # 3*17
< 1447729041 970144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51
< 1447729168 433679 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}{,,}  #
< 1447729169 263354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9
< 1447729174 700943 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; };    num a{,,}{,}
< 1447729175 380360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6
< 1447729242 111534 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH
< 1447729261 156072 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, it's normal bash syntax, WTF
< 1447729266 501894 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1447729278 237763 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's just regular brace expansion
< 1447729343 463779 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{{,,,,,}{,,,,,}{,,},}
< 1447729344 75638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :109
< 1447729363 811734 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{{,,,,}{,,,,}{,},}
< 1447729364 343760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51
< 1447729440 988939 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,,,,}{,,,,}{,}
< 1447729441 660348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50
< 1447729452 705084 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,,,,}{,,,,,}
< 1447729453 368931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :30
< 1447729455 935004 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,,,,}{,,,,,,}
< 1447729456 491553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :35
< 1447729459 925609 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,,,,,}{,,,,,,}
< 1447729460 550618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42
< 1447729489 730014 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why am I doing this in the channel
< 1447729529 837863 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ix.io/mgh
< 1447729536 944758 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple programming. 
< 1447729537 844854 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1447729555 732817 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fast
< 1447729557 458691 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :additive only, to be exact
< 1447729571 108280 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ix.io/mgi.py is a source code
< 1447729593 601224 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems to be a bit incorrect
< 1447729608 294544 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set up the recurrence wrongly
< 1447729620 845951 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bracing requirement is a bit hard to get it right
< 1447729669 441020 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION afk

< 1447729828 357126 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1447729912 134783 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.
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< 1447729991 445553 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, fixed: http://ix.io/mgl (source code http://ix.io/mgk.py)
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< 1447730020 214885 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :num can be also improved, let me check it out
< 1447730039 898019 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job :)
< 1447730162 443351 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shorter by one byte in some cases, but not further.
< 1447730168 710683 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-214-121-8.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447730188 165290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially it seems that composite + small number k is useless for k>1
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< 1447730225 4773 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, http://ix.io/mgn.py is the new code
< 1447730246 420225 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm yet to investigate subtractive approach though
< 1447730272 356038 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-alors1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447730756 501559 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: okay, I have a concrete example now
< 1447730768 643284 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,}{,{,,,}{,,,{,,,}{,,,}{,,,}}} # additive
< 1447730769 345436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :538
< 1447730776 460827 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num {,a{,}{,,,,}}{,a{,,}{,,,}{,,,}} # subtractive
< 1447730777 337791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :538
< 1447730784 617154 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the smallest example I have
< 1447730806 188559 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :683 and 934 are others below 1000
< 1447730811 20092 :andrew__!~andrew@14.154.165.69 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447730864 254813 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,}{,,,,}}{,a{,,}{,,,}{,,,} 
< 1447730864 848914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :480
< 1447730886 233860 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1447730892 817186 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i removed the wrong ones
< 1447730892 985255 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new list up to 10000: http://ix.io/mgp (code at http://ix.io/mgq.py)
< 1447730920 290150 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` num () { echo "$#"; }; num a{,}{,,,,}; num {,a{,}{,,,,}}
< 1447730921 46747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 \ 10
< 1447730931 99963 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447731179 403300 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that subtractive?
< 1447731334 210665 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're doing 10 + 48 + 10*48 so i don't see the subtraction?
< 1447731363 490561 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway {a,} is neat
< 1447731561 775682 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your approach is very nice but i'm not sure you can produce the correct result without actually bruteforcing it   (but i don't have a proof for this)
< 1447732493 80331 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1447732494 749189 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoLogic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45446&oldid=45445 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+383) 10New things! Yay!
< 1447732524 510532 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447732578 3791 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most importantly:  http://www.wizard101central.com/forums/showthread.php?456268-New-Jewels-Dual-Blades-for-all-schools!
< 1447732600 819412 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :new jewels with two +40% buffs at level FIFTEEN??
< 1447732606 502676 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's insane!
< 1447732662 37148 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice blade is +45%!  wtf!
< 1447732713 904635 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can have two of those jewels!
< 1447732745 790887 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizard101 is a great game guys, you should definitely try it
< 1447732788 119181 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg i can have both balance AND ice blades omg omg omg
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< 1447733391 558075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a Modal Logic programming language...
< 1447733412 543764 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sort of epistemic/probabilistic/deontic/temporal programming language
< 1447733512 754080 :adu!~ajr@2601:155:8401:83fb:fd71:7016:701b:2a8c PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: like prolog?
< 1447733529 50123 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: A logic language like prolog, yes
< 1447733542 300862 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with Temporal/epistemic/deontic/probabilistic properties
< 1447733569 824476 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@24.237.158.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a bit fuzzy
< 1447734034 382432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i take a short break, and *poof* another reboot
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< 1447734110 715864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect some of the programs that start up automatically when it's "idle" crashes it.
< 1447734130 964026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, IE remembered its tabs this time.
< 1447734265 128680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm next time i put it to sleep before i walk away for any length of time.
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< 1447735297 15138 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447735303 450728 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call my logic language?
< 1447735319 552290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loglan
< 1447735415 628749 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :taken
< 1447735459 323848 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"taken" it is xD
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< 1447735621 435828 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i find the nearest lower prime power?
< 1447735654 446891 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the highest number that's a power of a prime number, that's lower than my number
< 1447735702 647966 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :127 is my number, 125 is the nearest lower prime power
< 1447735714 223766 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if this thing has a name
< 1447735745 832388 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Lookup table|Brute force|prime checking algorithm|solve the Reimann Hypothesis
< 1447735793 992358 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :impractical|???|yeah that|that's the next step
< 1447735800 355713 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend the last one.
< 1447735802 944059 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what?
< 1447735826 930004 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, just to make sure, are you ACTUALLY working on the Riemann Hypothesis?
< 1447735874 521624 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no silly
< 1447735902 55622 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good.
< 1447735912 521047 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the future when they prove it has no solution.
< 1447735923 433194 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems really obvious to them.
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< 1447736076 550469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helvar!
< 1447736077 773421 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`
< 1447736078 490032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
< 1447736079 251587 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1447736099 959142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Have any better names?
< 1447736152 604390 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447736209 781673 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447736322 339084 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-keqsiqpsbtoyhaoe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447736378 68286 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I updated the font
< 1447736398 188815 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time with autogenerated char count at the end of allchars.htm
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< 1447736414 359230 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :link link link link
< 1447736417 569240 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: moment
< 1447736419 102042 :adu!~ajr@2601:155:8401:83fb:fd71:7016:701b:2a8c QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1447736424 417253 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/allchars.htm
< 1447736425 714909 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late
< 1447736426 933150 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure
< 1447736446 449257 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, I meant the literal "moment"
< 1447736447 265482 :Xe-!xe@unaffiliated/xe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447736452 592422 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or its shorthand, "mom"
< 1447736461 499866 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I thought xD
< 1447736463 79121 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :5601 characters, total
< 1447736469 918185 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew you meant the literal "moment"
< 1447736488 584396 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he probably should make a font

< 1447736493 713426 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447736500 946867 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd come in third AT LEAST if you did
< 1447736506 323489 :Xe-!xe@unaffiliated/xe NICK :Xe
< 1447736532 298110 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who were the first and the second? (and just to be sure, do they include oren?)
< 1447736575 764617 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oren is first, I'm second, assuming no one has done it before us
< 1447736580 643629 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this channel, that is
< 1447736589 240442 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I think has his own font
< 1447736592 735585 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have your own font?
< 1447736594 248308 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: your #define's are the best
< 1447736610 176675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have my own font as well, very old ASCII-limited one though
< 1447736613 241709 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, but it can't be rendered outside of a special program I made
< 1447736630 35434 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: which ones?
< 1447736635 745117 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless one were to make another renderer or a compiler.
< 1447736636 673996 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define brase break;case
< 1447736641 776034 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define brault break;default
< 1447736645 895825 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah I like those
< 1447736651 615782 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/lifthrasiir/angolmois/blob/625f843/angolmois.c#L876-L916
< 1447736656 634790 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat
< 1447736657 143691 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is how it is encoded :)
< 1447736660 74596 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-keqsiqpsbtoyhaoe NICK :mbrcknl
< 1447736660 223216 :ocharles___!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-liulfdxmzhlnhauj NICK :ocharles__
< 1447736687 216069 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that o.o
< 1447736727 935347 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "bitmap" font composed of a filled square or four kinds of right triangle or their impositions as well
< 1447736743 597755 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is then compressed.
< 1447736760 327578 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently encoded in base 96?
< 1447736766 399058 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's LZ77
< 1447736785 942699 :GoToTell_!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447736800 71125 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 through 97 encodes a literal code (which is remapped through `words`)
< 1447736845 910805 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 through... 126? I don't know, but anyway they encode a count which is followed by a distance offseted by 32.
< 1447736890 943292 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, innovative
< 1447736927 814938 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1447736955 854466 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: my original goal is to make a minimal game in the minimal number of bytes, so it was inevitable
< 1447736975 173090 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably crushed the whole game into 15,000 bytes of really unreadable source code
< 1447737005 423873 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I cleaned it up for making it a bit easier to read while still being minimal (i.e. limited to 2,000 lines of code)
< 1447737041 178528 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a sample image?
< 1447737164 476215 :GoToTell_!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 NICK :GoToTerll
< 1447737187 718665 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lifthrasiir/angolmois-rust/gh-pages/img/angolmois1.jpg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lifthrasiir/angolmois-rust/gh-pages/img/angolmois2.jpg
< 1447737293 622473 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447737422 725199 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1447737450 911018 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13955163/imitating-a-blink-tag-with-css3-animations   add it to http://www.orenwatson.be/ansi.htm
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< 1447737921 375841 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split
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< 1447738289 641241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447738298 153165 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a new idea for a modal logic
< 1447738346 602883 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: solve the Reimann Hypothesis is a great name for a logic language
< 1447738359 335699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1447738373 471613 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STRH
< 1447738409 35559 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time, Responsibility, Knowledge, Belief
< 1447738412 130263 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else?
< 1447738524 648170 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graph Logic perhaps?
< 1447738676 494247 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo SemanticLang
< 1447738751 760826 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ?
< 1447738782 57498 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Semantic Web is all about graphs
< 1447738801 209420 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I might have spent too much time reading about OpenCyc and OWL/RDF
< 1447738817 530621 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1447738841 916440 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, RDF is a way of life
< 1447738856 669880 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a lens you see the world thru
< 1447738928 642330 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the RDF worldview, you might make an HTTP log format like http://www.softwareishard.com/har/schema/HTTPArchiveV12.xsd
< 1447738944 203229 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the RDF worldview, you might make an HTTP log format like http://www.w3.org/TR/HTTP-in-RDF10/
< 1447739051 853950 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/har-12-spec/ is the JSON spec that goes along with HTTPArchiveV12.xsd
< 1447739396 809592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45447&oldid=45415 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-9) 10/* Examples */ Golfed the truth-machine some more
< 1447739893 4498 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447740875 457331 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa
< 1447741014 154138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45448&oldid=45416 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-45) 10oops this was debugging
< 1447741319 742864 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1447741455 637327 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447741785 298826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45449&oldid=45447 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-65) 10/* Hello, world! */
< 1447741797 596000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45450&oldid=45449 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+2) 10/* Hello, world! */
< 1447741896 428892 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447741937 293555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45451&oldid=45448 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-146) 10Ref impl allows jumping outside of program in either direction to halt
< 1447741987 251609 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447742030 417936 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I correct in my calculuations that B(BBB) = a(bc)(de)(fg) wher B is from the B,C,K,W system (Babc = a(bc))
< 1447742033 227656 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1447742824 926281 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are those small letters coming from?
< 1447742828 202156 :GoToTerll!~GotoTell@62.205.117.112 QUIT :Quit:  HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference
< 1447742860 967556 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Right, right, forgot.
< 1447742869 210286 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the things it's applied to
< 1447742885 658966 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B(BBB)abcdefg = a(bc)(de)(fg)
< 1447742891 610733 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it shouldn't be right
< 1447743016 59743 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447743032 201389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45452&oldid=45451 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+2) 10this is out of bounds too according to ref impl
< 1447743084 581413 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my attempt: (B(BBB))abcdefg = B(BBB)abcdefg = (BBB)(ab)cdefg = BBB(ab)cdefg = B(B(ab))cdefg = B(ab)(cd)fg = ab((cd)f)g
< 1447743118 342277 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Combinatory logic is hard :/
< 1447743133 755593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45453&oldid=45450 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-33) 10/* Examples */ Golfed the quine some more
< 1447743151 769589 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that I had to figure out how many variables there were in the process, so abcdefg might be too many
< 1447743224 744692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45454&oldid=45436 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2217) 10Various new combinator walkthroughs, some might even be right!
< 1447743408 786689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45455&oldid=45453 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, world! */ Original had a comma
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< 1447744010 11448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45456&oldid=45454 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+570) 10MOAR combinators
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< 1447746161 583463 :paul2520_!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com NICK :paul2520
< 1447746223 581725 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com NICK :Guest43336
< 1447747593 689118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a(bc)(de)(fg) = B(a(bc)(de))fg = BB(a(bc))(de)fg = B(BB(a(bc))defg = BB(BB)(a(bc))defg = B(BB(BB))a(bc)defg = B(B(BB(BB))a)bcdefg = BB(B(BB(BB)))abcdefg
< 1447747638 947477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mechanical transformation that way
< 1447747674 335859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b c d e f g -> a(b c)(d e)(f g)
< 1447747674 484346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :((((((.) .) .) . (.)) .) .) . (.)
< 1447747744 928286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh is that the same
< 1447747820 805744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a bc d e f g -> a bc(d e)(f g)
< 1447747820 992576 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((((.) .) .) . (.)) .)
< 1447747908 638838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \abc d e f g -> abc(d e)(f g)
< 1447747908 787401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((.) .) .) . (.)
< 1447747975 752881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there might be alternative paths
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< 1447750764 934361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: re char count, thanks
< 1447750768 354613 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says 5601
< 1447751172 758458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: since you're now extracting the set of characters automatically, you can also add some automatic checks: make sure that all characters are on the demo page, make sure that all printable characters encodable in certain byte encodings are all in your font, say iso-8859-{1,2,4,15,16}, cp125{2,0,1}-new, ibm{437,850,852}
< 1447751414 125592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially in ibm437 because that's important, has strange characters, and the unicode encoding is not well defined historically.
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< 1447753804 412484 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447754470 262907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1447756296 967430 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447756307 464854 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hi
< 1447756307 896383 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: to use the janko layout :( en tii� ei toimi fnord vaan sanoo ett� mulla ei oo fnord ja nyt koko fnord haisee fnord. let me check
< 1447756319 531927 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is that a keyboard layout?
< 1447756319 734778 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: who needs two asses?' as if vim is some unknown entity
< 1447756343 858262 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: two donkeys are better than one.
< 1447756344 82959 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: each blogger has the ability to send items fnord. ( and we didn't have autocad) ( else)
< 1447756390 49339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447756483 901834 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but two mules are even better than two donkeys
< 1447756484 253218 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and very very bad explanation lying on pastebin and i'm adding the last bits; the interpreter is in vm/ heap/ stack/ probably?
< 1447757870 995419 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you a mule?
< 1447757871 389857 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: although i guess tentacles could be called " main" procedures at the top level is really just a suburb of new york. i almost have to.
< 1447760177 781287 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447760431 706124 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1447760433 589747 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1447760495 568297 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447760603 530863 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord?
< 1447760604 123618 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in case you haven't noticed. " heh." ( if that were the subject of a cfj was used as an interpreted has failed this ' local' served up an english breakfast, complete with ftl ship, while he watches them via a microscope.
< 1447760643 910418 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Full English Breakfast delivered by FTL ship. I could see myself eating that last Sunday.
< 1447760710 594654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you still don't really understand punctuation, do you?
< 1447760710 780861 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and at this point in time.
< 1447760774 579892 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's spacetime alignment is a little fuzzy...
< 1447760774 768248 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord annotated 7907 with " rsa" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord? starts with lambda calculus
< 1447760872 917385 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let loeb x = go where go = fmap ($ go) x in tail . loeb $ const 1 : map (fmap sum . take) [0..]
< 1447760874 799675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,...
< 1447761379 989931 :vjoba!~vjoba@ip-89-177-135-104.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447761462 882395 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome vjoba 
< 1447761464 225317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13vjoba: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.)
< 1447761478 30494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. that is vile.
< 1447761504 392583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was trying to get the triangle numbers, is the worst thing
< 1447761551 91045 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is terrifyingly vile.
< 1447761569 953608 :vjoba!~vjoba@ip-89-177-135-104.net.upcbroadband.cz PART #esoteric :"Konversation terminated!"
< 1447761603 635077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh, a fleeing `relcomed newcomer...
< 1447761620 828374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they're going to DALnet or EFnet
< 1447761682 811 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they really do not like rainbows
< 1447761785 658623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -le$==1,(1x$_)=~/(^)(1|11\1)*(?{$=++})^/,print$=for 0..20
< 1447761786 498640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 \ 3 \ 5 \ 8 \ 13 \ 21 \ 34 \ 55 \ 89 \ 144 \ 233 \ 377 \ 610 \ 987 \ 1597 \ 2584 \ 4181 \ 6765 \ 10946 \ 17711 \ 28657
< 1447761906 54704 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that works
< 1447761948 499787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eats breakfast cereals. cereals are simple.

< 1447762015 462207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=796576 and follow links from there
< 1447762053 452534 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a really obfuscated fib, but..
< 1447762055 705256 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ {.{.|:(+/ .*)^:(<20)~2 2$*i.4
< 1447762060 241284 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1447762078 303655 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you detect cycles in a list like this?     a->b b->c c->d ... z->a
< 1447762098 408869 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tortoises and hares
< 1447762102 636740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: isn't there the.. yeah
< 1447762112 681505 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but
< 1447762134 207720 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's not a linked list actually
< 1447762148 258941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the principle still works I think
< 1447762162 341244 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it could be a lazy infinite list
< 1447762171 745230 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's finite
< 1447762179 849000 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to fix something in (guess what) bash
< 1447762188 428690 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bash resolves namerefs
< 1447762273 754262 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try to apply tortoise and hare <.<
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< 1447763223 622013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch
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< 1447764267 853086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:5-logic14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45457&oldid=14929 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+504) 10
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< 1447765093 516598 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: topological sorting?
< 1447765124 636765 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err what
< 1447765165 279343 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean to steal your focus sorry
< 1447765184 285974 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please be esoteric
< 1447765191 217456 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. It's the only algorithm I associate with cycle detection in graphs.
< 1447765197 35894 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. that's the only one I was taught at least.
< 1447765243 686493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447765290 353795 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You throw every node out that has no inputs
< 1447765294 545360 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're left with cycles
< 1447765410 816358 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not doing anything that fancy <.<
< 1447766123 639913 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
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< 1447768054 62149 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar
< 1447768466 677522 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447771653 219947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. Does the particular representation of a computability class that David Madore defines in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html count as an esoteric programming language (not implementable, because it's more powerful than Turing-complete)? 
< 1447771747 209600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is well defined enough that you can write prorams for it, but it's not inteded to be practically programmed, so it might count as one, but then IA64 machine code could also count as esoteric programming language in that sense.
< 1447771813 874220 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the english version?
< 1447771826 99323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's none
< 1447771835 5603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in French
< 1447771892 186592 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the definition of an esolang is fuzzy and weak enough that it would probably count
< 1447771900 122000 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having read it, just going by your description
< 1447771922 251890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only thing that makes IA64 machine code not an esolang is that it's actually used in practice for practical purposes...
< 1447771975 264883 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :int-e
< 1447771979 971235 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what...
< 1447771982 511086 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e
< 1447771999 498474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :The flating channel. | /ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/
< 1447772017 814780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes my brain is awfully confused :-(
< 1447772197 4895 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447772403 255336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a lie. It's always terribly confused, but it's usually much better at hiding that fact from the outside world.
< 1447772404 753572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity it doesn't have a name given. 
< 1447772408 396735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help!
< 1447772408 658542 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: made it long before i lose interest. but thanks, i'll read in it a bit more :) but then i'll be free to contribute)...)
< 1447772416 182725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?
< 1447772417 112224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447772420 413948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447772421 947970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jwinslow23/JWinslow23 is not here.
< 1447772425 105409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447772426 720093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.)
< 1447772444 709310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1447772446 306025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc/kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013
< 1447772488 871603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, should I code this the straightforward way or the tricky way?
< 1447772489 20243 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: will you marry me? ( sorry i don't have
< 1447772493 908958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447772497 633161 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was unexpected
< 1447772502 914157 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447772555 107198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps surprisingly, that is not the first time I've seen a bot make a marriage proposal
< 1447772595 478683 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the tricky way is fraught with peril down the road
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< 1447773470 13679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually two programming langauges, because he also claims that by dropping rule 7, you get a language that is Turing complete but no more powerful.
< 1447773505 837237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: context?
< 1447773532 129453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "Question. Does the particular representation of a computability class that David Madore defines in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html count as an esoteric programming language (not implementable, because it's more powerful than Turing-complete)?"
< 1447773553 453451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does, but it doesn't have a nice name, so we need to give those two languages nice names and document them on the esowiki.
< 1447773566 108238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would be nice
< 1447773569 763965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would make it more accessible too
< 1447773578 547047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, David Madore writes a large subset of things in French
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< 1447774137 31387 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what name should we use for these two languages?
< 1447774169 543041 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperarithmetics?
< 1447774243 956456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, I think that's the computational class. we need something for this particular programming language with that power, and for the other language that computes only all computable functions too.
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< 1447774325 177557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a snappy name, like "Real Fast Nora's Hair Saloon 3: Shear Disaster Download
< 1447774325 567845 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I believe that ^^ was for you
< 1447774333 581124 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1447774342 677569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um yes, sorry
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< 1447775041 594940 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45458&oldid=44539 5* 03B jonas 5* (+139) 10/* Todo */
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< 1447775967 963778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How about "In-silico Vector Construction"
< 1447776081 13636 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: dunno. 
< 1447776159 49699 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "Panglossian Prerogative"?
< 1447776354 513034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: we need two related names. one for the computable version, one for the more powerful one.
< 1447776369 889462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they need to be related
< 1447776393 692730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the languages are related too
< 1447776395 199956 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Comutable One" "The More Powerful One"
< 1447776411 200999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe throw in a "++" for the more powerful one
< 1447776462 400649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pizza Parlor" "Sex Parlor" i think that conveys the relatedness and the relationship between them
< 1447778279 172816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Banana Scheme14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45459&oldid=20646 5* 03B jonas 5* (+187) 10
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< 1447779882 734243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1447779890 269083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? assemble
< 1447779895 672214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assemble? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447780167 77079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? assembly
< 1447780168 3847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assembly? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447780728 161386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MaRo writes some hard to believe things in http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/know-what-2015-11-16 
< 1447780773 508520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) he says he's vowed to make assembling contraptions work some day, and (2) he says they're doing fewer clone effects these days
< 1447780920 808965 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, (2) actually seems true. interesting...
< 1447780953 936531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, for a while there were a ton of clone effects in uncommon, which was strange to me because at the time I was the most active, there were almost none
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< 1447781148 809498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: (1) is true but probably misguided
< 1447781156 122470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried analyzing the grammar of that phrase myself
< 1447781164 313532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are very few actions that could possibly be templated like that
< 1447781223 235557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest I can get using existing keywords is "whenever a «Goblin» you control would «block» an «Elf», it «blocks» two «Elves» instead" which I think is correctly templated but wouldn't be printed due to the actual ability raising too many questions
< 1447781275 114942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I personally think the biggest problem with M:tG is that it's all focused on creating temporary metagames that you throw away after a few months
< 1447781280 707430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than working on really improving a single metagame
< 1447781301 215990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that they can be quite simplistic and easy to solve and Wizards just has to slow down the thread of information, and also that the game doesn't have long-term appeal without continuously spending money
< 1447781579 2182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slow down the spread of information"
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< 1447785764 383679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I definitely agree that trying to make assembling contraptions work is a bad idea
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< 1447787042 105769 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! it actually makes sense this way
< 1447787067 446845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule 5 is doing what that rule should be doing, and what it does in that language whose name I can't remember, it's just difficult to read
< 1447787095 643967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should make a language whose name is impossible to remember
< 1447787112 73014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also isn't just a bunch of mashing on the keyboard, and whose name is also hard to abbreviate or substitute as something else
< 1447787132 802577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Language That Shall Not Be Abbreviated As ABCDEF is probably the best we have in this regard so far
< 1447787139 174165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be achieved by making a set of languages whose names are all similar
< 1447787144 629389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, twisty maze of passages
< 1447787161 247136 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though of course "impossible" isn't easy to satisfy when you're on this channel
< 1447787166 5478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people take it as a challenge
< 1447787177 943129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I never remember INTERCAL's *name* (as opposed to acronym)
< 1447787180 853324 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that counts
< 1447787195 96793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiler Language With No Pronounceable Acronym
< 1447787197 581342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a name?
< 1447787199 165132 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right
< 1447787205 169478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't INTERCAL the name?
< 1447787213 253668 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, what ais523 said is the canonical name I think
< 1447787221 875965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, INTERCAL might be the actual name
< 1447787225 590824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's defined as something like "INTERCAL, which stands for Compiler Language With No Pronounceable Acronym"
< 1447787303 695356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it rather philosophical what its name actually /is/
< 1447787320 284459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the best esolang naming screwups that wasn't created by cpressey
< 1447787326 134103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which rules lets you cons a pair? there has to be one, you can't be expected to build it from addition because you need to make conses to implement that because rule 6 has to be involved and it needs lists
< 1447787334 493307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(intentional screwups, I should say)
< 1447787416 336695 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't get it
< 1447787421 121332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you cons?
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< 1447787497 517169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: just out of interest: if you come across a website in a language you don't know and machine-translate it, do you translate it into English or Hungarian?
< 1447787521 821918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, I almost never try to machine-translate websites
< 1447787533 764054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough
< 1447787538 589725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I tried, I probably machine translated it to English
< 1447787547 79063 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my understanding google translates to english first and then to the second language
< 1447787554 369915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do it more, and got decently good at reading "machine translator output that's allegedly English" (which is really a language of its own)
< 1447787562 268377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't done it for a while
< 1447787567 330939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially since I decided to break ties with Google)
< 1447787568 411891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: from what source languages?
< 1447787580 91957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: French was probably the most common
< 1447787589 713661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and did you read it without reading the source in parallel, or with?
< 1447787591 655443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I know enough French to make semi-sense of articles written in it even without translation
< 1447787592 610311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, French is easy
< 1447787605 443500 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :French is easier to translate to English automatically than Chinese that is
< 1447787623 177497 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you read texts about mathematics or informatics, where most of the words simply mirror translate
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< 1447787668 231324 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seriously
< 1447787683 393338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make sense of the language in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html ? 
< 1447787685 538847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, although you have to be very careful sometimes
< 1447787686 938252 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you cons
< 1447787696 265711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you can't cons, how do you use rule 6?
< 1447787696 825033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. fr:positif = en:nonnegative)
< 1447787713 154528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's not really uniform, neither in English nor in French, sadly
< 1447787763 225446 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is a proof of int.
< 1447787771 624482 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like a boss)
< 1447787812 749405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he gives a sample program so it should be possible to figure it out
< 1447787885 881616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the simple interpreter he gives, it is clear that he does not depend on the particular representation of pairs, so it's even more clear that it must not be built from successor
< 1447787951 312060 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! I think you can use rule 4 (the composition rule) to cons, because it passes a list as argument, and not every program takes that list apart
< 1447787989 282884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: int is not very interesting when interpreted as a theorem, though
< 1447787996 118562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't let you cons, but it would let you list, which should probably be enough 
< 1447787997 551764 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: True
< 1447788011 180911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for my paper, one of the papers I cite was in German
< 1447788016 93186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nothing in the language requires you to use variable length lists
< 1447788017 705782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for my thesis
< 1447788026 625588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a little German but was mostly just reading the mathematical notation
< 1447788041 762195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which reminds me, did you read my thesis yet? you bugged me for so long for a copy ;-)
< 1447788065 725737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: didn't you say it would be available starting from december, or something?
< 1447788074 166793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: publicly, yes
< 1447788088 331737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf negotiated with the thesis archival people here to be allowed an early copy
< 1447788105 661137 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1447788124 583898 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he argued that it's very important for his research?
< 1447788145 898366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not yet. :-(
< 1447788153 887670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's being kept hidden for ais523's sake, not for the university's.
< 1447788163 749804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's free to send a copy to anyone as far as I can tell.
< 1447788170 831737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that
< 1447788183 268508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they basically said it was OK for me to send shachaf a copy directly, so I did
< 1447788191 953057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reasoning/nature for the rules is very complex
< 1447788209 792715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally I could have had a hold placed on the publication of the thesis, although only a relatively short one without a really good reason
< 1447788215 139444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unclear to me why I'd have wanted to
< 1447788380 137877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so why does he say that rule 0 isn't really needed?
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< 1447788691 738199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give a program equivalent to <0> that uses only rules 1..6? I don't see how to do that, but it's probably possible
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< 1447789037 302682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1447789116 254665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least I can see why if you use rules 0..6 you get a reasonably easy to use turing-complete programming language, on the esoteric scale
< 1447789412 199215 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOO!
< 1447789417 741019 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY PARSER IS PARTIALLY WORKIN!
< 1447789421 768434 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WORKING!
< 1447790601 878095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45460&oldid=45456 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+105) 10/* B[2] combinator */
< 1447790623 73363 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45461&oldid=45460 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-1) 10/* C combinator */ Fixed a letter
< 1447790748 814704 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris
< 1447791025 592548 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447791122 957634 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoekhjhxvvffbdjm JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447791157 845661 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:5091:89a0:f982:7c9c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1447791299 512688 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447791492 827133 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/ueKVqjY  this
< 1447791649 213052 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll buy three
< 1447791658 674628 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo((X, Y), Z) :- bar(X), baz(Y, Z);
< 1447791711 796793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why are you a computer?
< 1447791733 544215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is that Prolog? or just a language designed to look like it?
< 1447791745 429973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it can't be Prolog unless it's been split mid-predicate
< 1447791752 87223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Prolog predicates end with a full stop, not a semicolon
< 1447792184 66291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1447792216 401548 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's a prolog-like language, but it's not prolog
< 1447792236 922874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1447792306 907827 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It draws a lot from modal logic
< 1447792313 864516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's temporal and epistemic
< 1447792421 971506 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447792432 169916 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody should use more curry
< 1447792650 540579 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447792686 160226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: on their food?
< 1447792773 205296 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_(programming_language)
< 1447792957 421486 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447793838 875138 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick
< 1447793924 501543 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447793926 93402 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447793927 270422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name of that programming language used in early papers about programming language theory that has rules very similar to 2 and 5 of David Madore's machine, that is, where the basic way to build functions is to compose other functions with arbitrary arity as in the Applicative instance of (->) ?
< 1447793974 302132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has some famous inventory or something.
< 1447793992 494476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(inventor)y/$1/
< 1447794144 329396 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Whoa. That's hardcore s///ing.
< 1447794197 145109 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. s/y//
< 1447794203 350186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y/y//d
< 1447794224 476650 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ryanmcdermott/birdseed
< 1447794564 598786 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-214-121-8.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447794670 318305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know which language I'm talking about?
< 1447794824 85805 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-syjltydrupggarss QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1447794913 980401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be, like, the original pure functional programming language, or close to it.
< 1447794929 254156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the first pure functional programming language, because Church probably precedes it, but still
< 1447794934 482556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the first one without variables
< 1447794940 982273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so more like the original Unlambda
< 1447795000 134157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it has ennary composition instead of just S, and easy access to any parameter of the current function
< 1447795020 241340 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wjfsbwcjvjftwype JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447795096 354792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this doesn't give much keywords to search for.
< 1447795133 218349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does my explanation make sense?
< 1447795162 479238 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :miranda? ml?
< 1447795171 110307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: no no, those are real langauges used on a comptuer
< 1447795180 214264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is for writing stuff on paper, back when efficient computers were rare
< 1447795186 103493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's old
< 1447795187 742199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :older than ml
< 1447795200 370543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, doesn't have variables, in the sense that unlambda doesn't have them
< 1447795222 942416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can emulate variables just like in unlambda or any other complete combinator calculus
< 1447795332 170338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, help me!
< 1447795465 628018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me, Oer-Jan Kenobi, you're my only hope!
< 1447795637 642290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's connected to Howard Curry
< 1447795645 343305 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447795649 770250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1447795652 88154 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1447795769 367994 :Guest43336!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com NICK :paul2520
< 1447795786 567713 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1447795786 716247 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447795876 105948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good night
< 1447796107 189500 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447797568 644457 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1447798962 385037 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447799129 312252 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. WalText2i should be working
< 1447799148 481812 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to do a workaround for Complex Conjugate. It's $ instead of *
< 1447799166 300919 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ALSO included binary ~, which chooses a number in a range
< 1447799170 304405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1447799170 584337 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447799174 14636 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND I think I have -x working
< 1447799499 40657 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447799901 793291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. 0~5 = random.choice([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]))
< 1447799908 500943 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe 5 isn't included in a range like that
< 1447799909 875121 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1447799924 655006 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1447800342 686808 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447800551 126397 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447800611 894612 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoekhjhxvvffbdjm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1447800666 254406 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril.
< 1447800666 402947 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: google knows all!!
< 1447800749 680518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't teach it that.
< 1447800844 820889 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right...
< 1447800854 49980 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes fizzie with suspicion and a mapole

< 1447800874 741782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Tell them that was all your own opinion.
< 1447800874 944931 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( added null operators on the end) does leak memory...
< 1447800913 89857 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447800958 232795 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the 'got now balances his parentheses.
< 1447800983 700550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot?
< 1447800984 31209 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what two stars does? to me it's just too hard. how much power do you get fnord to open a window on every x desktop and cat urandom into it
< 1447801007 569229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think two stars is too hard, wait until you hear of ais523's new language
< 1447801057 242133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Every X desktop in the world? 
< 1447801057 467088 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i do not care, then remembered again!) paste a line of joyce wrote fnord/ fnord/ fnord/ fnord and friends
< 1447801074 193259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There goes the balance.
< 1447801194 97060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /dev/urandom
< 1447801194 954457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​;��kb�u�V�BF�V�捬������x�@�X�z��&�eF�K�9"��S�<2B��J.�T��c�a≉W(�v��H܆����xŁ/�������:�
< 1447801304 899419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it displayed the same everywhere: http://imgur.com/JHGm7eO ?
< 1447801336 551751 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447801355 715854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all.
< 1447801396 384265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447801574 116582 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447801941 677280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447802013 575529 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447802074 229554 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://clbin.com/D0pijl.png
< 1447802113 114750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/hPDIW6w.png
< 1447802224 833974 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strokes his beard. “interesting...”

< 1447802233 468733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: APPLICABLE CHICKEN
< 1447802506 42395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 2 3
< 1447802506 698173 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: 1 2 3
< 1447802512 820396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, we have j-bot here too
< 1447802647 67572 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do
< 1447802666 230547 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluates J.
< 1447802675 602203 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1447802689 282072 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I can remember this...
< 1447802699 918379 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ~/ 'izabera'
< 1447802700 580539 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: |syntax error
< 1447802700 729037 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: |       ~/'izabera'
< 1447802705 427749 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, apparently not.
< 1447803346 524101 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you think ~ did?
< 1447803383 262925 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you guys seriously lack imagination when picking names
< 1447803474 549784 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so?
< 1447803527 259891 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447803564 4806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Blakusl 5*  10New user account
< 1447803950 443805 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot to interpret j
< 1447803961 603346 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot because befunge
< 1447803961 824972 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: how does one go about binding scheme ( say, on the other
< 1447804000 57496 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] beacuse he uses an hp pavilion
< 1447804023 496680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo because you can hack on it.
< 1447804031 650109 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I used to, but it broke
< 1447804173 496951 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: What was ~/ meant to do?
< 1447804294 326222 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's your home directory hth
< 1447804382 725354 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447804501 920007 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45462&oldid=45441 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1311) 10Meanings
< 1447805196 569599 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447805273 882910 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Not what happened. :P
< 1447805278 278063 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Not what I meant.
< 1447805279 111335 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447805298 376642 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well, it's meant to do that, but that's not what I wanted to happen.
< 1447805357 369492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ *~ 10
< 1447805358 69136 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: 100
< 1447805363 376229 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ *: 10
< 1447805364 93134 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: 100
< 1447805505 661084 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i create a page about that brace expansion thingy?
< 1447805586 400899 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course
< 1447806321 593527 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447807341 930296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did that work well
< 1447807364 268838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1447807424 945208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even ctrl-alt-del works...
< 1447807567 235306 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you okerjan
< 1447807663 434082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard reboot again
< 1447807678 808065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like any programs i want started, i must start shortly after the machine boots
< 1447807781 455356 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1447807812 94371 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447807817 765573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i must not leave it idle too long, or it will reboot.
< 1447807842 315977 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447808226 85261 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447808385 384716 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447809294 942154 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447809394 683559 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447809395 534867 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447809507 344156 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447809735 347844 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447809887 679050 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447810434 81386 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447810475 778037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447810636 375494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. are you still suffering from an unstable machine?
< 1447810821 541331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447810883 320358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1447810890 801750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonveno
< 1447810891 770292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonveno? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447810899 130187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonveno`n
< 1447810900 106017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonveno`n? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447810902 104057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonvenon
< 1447810903 319575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.)
< 1447810917 786679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/{bonvenon,welcome.eo}
< 1447810921 629750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447810931 953373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep bonve bin/*
< 1447810935 567348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/selflink: Too many levels of symbolic links
< 1447810943 91298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1447810955 741233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/selflink
< 1447810956 771373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 8 Jun 21 02:47 bin/selflink -> selflink
< 1447810963 48557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/selflink
< 1447810965 483989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447810967 87746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep bonve bin/*
< 1447810967 973454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447811138 445559 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.167.241 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447811235 569509 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447811955 408778 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what characters should I add today?
< 1447812187 922933 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones you forgot yesterday
< 1447812199 251086 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION useful

< 1447812293 677837 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\
< 1447812296 417148 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seh9_sFv1Z4
< 1447812314 980524 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this video is dedicated to all this fine channel's insomniacs.)
< 1447812327 819929 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: have you covered the jōyō kanji yet?
< 1447812337 347055 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet
< 1447812351 981559 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is THAT
< 1447812380 545240 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeiTkkp2TKM
< 1447812385 986834 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it was one of the videos showcased yesterday night.
< 1447812411 346655 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay let's all pst youtube links without any clue to what they point to
< 1447812425 578252 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, every Monday night, I attend the «Lundi Douteux». it's a weekly event in a bar near home where they show disturbing and disquieting things on a screen.
< 1447812473 463120 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :== they dump 4chan
< 1447812514 906190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5*  10New user account
< 1447812552 682628 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLy-AwdCOmI
< 1447812590 418262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: of course not. it goes deeper.
< 1447813180 732887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SilverWingedSeraph14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45463 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (+24) 10Create empty page.
< 1447813258 410399 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTIkCbDdBNc
< 1447813293 778646 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime izabera
< 1447813294 761192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for izabera is Wed, 18 Nov 2015 03:20:17 +0100
< 1447813309 72797 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: shouldn't you be sleeping?
< 1447813384 616587 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447813502 960185 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.167.241 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447813541 342824 :andrew!~andrew@14.154.167.241 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447813705 179701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes he forgot to include the OOTS book in his backup, it wasn't in Documents

< 1447813843 176658 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
< 1447813852 682339 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it lost&
< 1447813862 858236 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s&\&&?&
< 1447813972 158026 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should rather block time requests
< 1447814093 349207 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to pillow for me. bonne nuizabera!
< 1447814098 246237 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COMMUNAL CHICKEN
< 1447814212 135655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily no, my computer _is_ still working enough to copy more
< 1447814212 290868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447814236 132038 :Warrigal_!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
< 1447814350 915518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1447814963 577866 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo!
< 1447814989 151033 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just proved that for a natural number n, the n-fold successor of 1 is the successor of n.
< 1447815191 629451 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, if I keep this up, I might just be able to prove that the natural numbers are a commutative semiring.
< 1447815378 297504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: russell and whitehead, eat your heart out!
< 1447815423 877833 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using possibly the minimum feasible axiomatization of the natural numbers.
< 1447815447 43423 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447815462 814653 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even admitting logic.
< 1447815469 376279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1447815482 738422 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system has no concept of disjunction.
< 1447815618 80685 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447815640 112248 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow
< 1447815675 208967 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447815880 61218 :mihow!~mihow@c-73-11-29-161.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447816146 765036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45464&oldid=45315 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+14) 10Adding Brackit language
< 1447816187 845335 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, good, you're doing backups. are you going to nuke the computer after or just get a new one?
< 1447816265 5709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45465 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (+7733) 10Create page and add specification, description, and sample programs.
< 1447816462 706058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45466&oldid=45465 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (+12) 10Fix categorization.
< 1447816659 663046 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo! I proved addition commutative, and it only took about ten minutes.
< 1447816703 698276 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme describe my system.
< 1447816748 1034 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ambient "logic" is that of a finite limit category.
< 1447816844 425617 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better known as a finitely complete category.
< 1447816855 539999 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without further ado.
< 1447816935 427 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447816944 742253 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are natural numbers. Zero is a natural number. The successor of a natural number is a natural number. Given a value z and a function s, there is a function R such that R(zero) = z and for all n, R(succ(n)) = s(R(n)). Given two functions f and g, if f(zero) = g(zero), and f(succ(n)) = g(succ(n)) whenever f(n) = g(n), then f = g."
< 1447817129 152836 :myndzl!myndzi@tetrisguide.com NICK :myndzi
< 1447817232 578948 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hope is that that's enough to prove... a bunch of stuff.
< 1447817241 917655 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's enough to prove addition commutative!
< 1447817661 242148 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit awesome tweets going out under hashtag #ISISクソコラグランプリ
< 1447817677 608661 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Isis eat shit grand prix)
< 1447817875 437228 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no. ISIS shit collage grand prix
< 1447817949 709430 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -r "s|([+-])|))\1((|g;s|([*/])|)\1(|g;s|.*|((&))|" <<< "a*b+c^d/e"
< 1447817950 497437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​((a)*(b))+((c^d)/(e))
< 1447818013 122355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aint that pretty
< 1447818131 12803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: decisions, decisions.
< 1447818209 128041 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they made a girl chracter called ISIS chan who wears a burka and likes melons for some reason
< 1447818366 613680 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ztube_
< 1447818397 578064 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: AFAIK the melon signifies a severed head
< 1447818408 909969 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bad joke, really.
< 1447818610 58715 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hopefully this annoys the real isis
< 1447818708 313045 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I don't think so, ISIS uses a media outlet as a primary tactic and it may repurpose the character for its own good
< 1447819989 790281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~EarthBit14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45467 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+865) 10Created page with "'''EarthBit''' is a [[Joke language]] that is interesting in that all the operators are confused.  == Syntax == In EarthBit there are numeric literals, the only data type. Eac..."
< 1447820051 226109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~EarthBit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45468&oldid=45467 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+19) 10
< 1447820095 667605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas  oerjan, help me! <-- FP? doesn't sound quite like it though.
< 1447820095 837118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447820109 129283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~EarthBit14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45469&oldid=45468 5* 03Phase 5* (+0) 10
< 1447820271 739645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~EarthBit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45470&oldid=45469 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+167) 10
< 1447820305 386283 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should also output a breakdown of my font by blocks
< 1447820559 896267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Conor O'Brien14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45471&oldid=45309 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+33) 10/* Languages I have made */
< 1447821297 402496 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447821961 146211 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447822449 853596 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN
< 1447822473 440128 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an equivalent to sed that works well with binary files?
< 1447822564 784846 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's gcc + your c skills
< 1447822888 845187 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh. i guess so
< 1447822900 108219 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero
< 1447823165 629392 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need it for your font?
< 1447823298 672717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph another surprise reboot but at least IE recovered the tabs
< 1447823328 188406 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :give wine a try
< 1447823608 646367 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll work on Kastor and how literals work in it
< 1447824023 753010 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the overlap between this channel and the ppcg stack exchange so narrow?
< 1447824111 139189 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats ppcg
< 1447824299 835192 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/xdRvmHqhiHA   oooh cool
< 1447825847 389331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447825879 189811 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering having a different between => and : dicts in Kastor, but I don't know what to make the difference xD
< 1447825959 384637 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447828081 789681 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :喫営嗅嗣嘆嘱嘲噴嚇坪城域執培基埼堀堅堆堕
< 1447828081 966008 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :堤堪報塀塁塊塑材氾汁求汎汗汚江汰沃沈沖沙
< 1447828082 300878 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :没沢河沸
< 1447828560 591256 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: file('out', 'wb').write(file('in', 'rb').read().replace('this','that'))
< 1447828747 455348 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the only one thinking that chriss cornell looks like christian bale?
< 1447828780 837091 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metalinsider.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/chris-cornell-soundgarden-353x.jpg
< 1447828818 704583 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also listen to this, it's awesome even if it's not my genre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpMfZPAc1kg
< 1447828918 418159 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he looks baleful indeed
< 1447829030 95785 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1447829158 965523 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those irish guys look the same to me
< 1447829163 340113 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-)
< 1447829807 763657 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1447829882 194007 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447830123 352884 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447830517 931159 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447830738 434126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: "is there an equivalent to sed that works well with binary files?" => perl
< 1447830763 66050 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog?
< 1447831017 420492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tobsta 5*  10New user account
< 1447831102 737417 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447831773 37689 :impomatic_!~digital_w@42.147.189.80.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447831790 778567 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: xxd
< 1447832165 134165 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447833108 810854 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1447833474 121553 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447834556 864070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, that might be what I was thinking, and indeed it's similar: it doesn't have a builtin like the rule 5 of David's machine, but only a separate B-like composition builtin and a list-building builtin
< 1447834927 316213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I was thinking more of David's language, and I definitely get the esoteric jive from it, so now I'm sure it's an esolang that deserves to be examined more.
< 1447835253 24326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
< 1447835358 711072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45472 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+5757) 10Creating the page.
< 1447835808 45524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to write about it later.
< 1447836001 686089 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447836005 70871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 12*-/(2-%:3)(^%])1+2*i.14
< 1447836005 353248 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 3.14159
< 1447836017 834790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 1j15": 12*-/(2-%:3)(^%])1+2*i.14
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< 1447836022 234826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
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< 1447836030 384755 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 3.141592653589794
< 1447836032 254579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that
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< 1447836059 863160 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 3.141592653589793
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< 1447839494 847098 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/201/  i solved this but my solution is too slow  http://arin.ga/cZMwGs/raw
< 1447839502 915420 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any hint to improve it?  :\
< 1447839591 592136 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better algorithm or i dunno
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< 1447841549 446112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45473 5* 03B jonas 5* (+4724) 10Created page with "'''Amycus''' is simple Turing-equivalent functional programming language defined by [[David Madore]] in [http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html#d.2015-11-1..."
< 1447841657 969792 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45474&oldid=45473 5* 03B jonas 5* (+112) 10
< 1447841772 78586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperamicus14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45475 5* 03B jonas 5* (+2387) 10Created page with "'''Hyperamycus''' is a functional programming language defined by [[David Madore]] in [http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-16.2337.html#d.2015-11-16.2337 his 2015-11..."
< 1447842030 613603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperamicus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45476&oldid=45475 5* 03B jonas 5* (+509) 10
< 1447842053 860128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07David Madore14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45477&oldid=8771 5* 03B jonas 5* (+41) 10
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< 1447842331 352910 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone might want to check if what I write about Amycus makes sense.
< 1447842359 206924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've checked and it seems correct (in particular the transformation of lambda expressions to Amycus) please drop me a line.
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< 1447843837 750831 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow HackEgo is fast
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< 1447844379 143349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The whole premise of the question is faulty; I don't remember forming the words "MOM", "DAD" or "TRAIN" with alphabet blocks. Sorry, can't help you there.
< 1447844722 618349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45484&oldid=45483 5* 03B jonas 5* (+870) 10
< 1447844750 690927 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, we propose you to remind this time for a while.
< 1447844750 919001 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: at least nobody fnord during kent's summary information) and parsing the useful bits for an instruction
< 1447845792 418546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now I need two more names. A name for the subset of Amycus without rule 2 and 4; and a name for the subset of Amycus where numbers and lists aren't equivalent.
< 1447845831 408328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45485&oldid=45484 5* 03B jonas 5* (+10) 10
< 1447845968 66312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Amycus Sequentius for the former, and Amycus Bebryx for the latter.
< 1447846401 754397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could call the latter Amycus Severus, because it's strictly typed
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< 1447846625 851254 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Amycus Sequenti for the first
< 1447846671 865630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45486&oldid=45485 5* 03B jonas 5* (+123) 10
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< 1447847510 391569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus Severus14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45487 5* 03B jonas 5* (+3284) 10Created page with "'''Amycus Severus''' is a Turing-equivalent functional programming language that is a restricted variant of [[Amycus]] by [[David Madore]].  == Definition == Amycus Severus ha..."
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< 1447851510 73888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH I HAVE A BUG IN MY DESCRIPTION
< 1447851516 593887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to fix it, but it takes some time.
< 1447851643 204020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45488&oldid=45486 5* 03B jonas 5* (+116) 10
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< 1447852884 254899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45491&oldid=45466 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (-1) 10Fix typos.
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< 1447854472 569600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! also, I'm completely wrong
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< 1447854478 867894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't even nth a tuple in Amycus
< 1447854483 573489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not in the obvious way
< 1447854500 875671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need the eval rule for it
< 1447856994 6437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still fixing it
< 1447857001 281686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more complicated to describe properly than I thought
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< 1447857285 262049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperamycus or Hyperamicus? the Amycus article links to both; one is a red link
< 1447857288 149706 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably bad
< 1447857684 560753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45497&oldid=45490 5* 03B jonas 5* (+2185) 10fix description of how to transform lambda expressions (tbc)
< 1447857774 252153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily would the translated chicken be moved to the other side of the road?
< 1447857774 400575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447858033 605893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you wish to join the ?GREAT ILLUMINATI WORLD WIDE?AND BECOME RICH, AND HAVE FAME IN LIFE Contact Us via email: illuminaticonfraternity@aol.com for more information"
< 1447858039 587820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the mighty have fallen.
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< 1447860980 537535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic transit gloria mundi
< 1447861004 729339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be much better, though still needs minor fixes from me, and then finding the errors by you
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< 1447861427 317779 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now using a rented laptop while his own is on service

< 1447861450 473441 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see i've got a mail that they found a hard disk sector error
< 1447861522 324825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45500&oldid=45499 5* 03B jonas 5* (+64) 10
< 1447861574 453194 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good news: the warranty should cover it; bad news: according to what was said at the shop, it might then take an extra week.
< 1447861601 899149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you understand enough about combinator calculus to know that version with B and C and whatever else as base instead of S? If so, maybe you can tell why rule 0 isn't needed for Amycus.
< 1447861625 682212 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't looked at those rule 0 etc. things.
< 1447861633 69709 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if any of you want to read my writeup about Amycus to tell where I'm writing nonsense, feel free.
< 1447861645 980900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's BCKW, isn't it
< 1447861651 121773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea
< 1447861656 255147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's more than one base
< 1447861664 310044 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :W f x = f x x, if my recall is right
< 1447861667 265832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to look it up in the bird book
< 1447861675 433583 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, and what is C?
< 1447861689 361427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is like B x y z = x (y z) if I understand right
< 1447861734 20906 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :C x y z = x z y, i think
< 1447861738 263942 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. flip
< 1447861744 193766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45501&oldid=45500 5* 03B jonas 5* (+4) 10
< 1447861803 909596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B,C,K,W_system
< 1447861816 418281 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of B and C is restricting one of the arguments of S to not being applied to z
< 1447861898 137207 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was worried for a moment when the rented laptop asked for an admin password (which i don't have) to run the putty installer. fortunately just copying putty.exe worked instead.

< 1447862010 786486 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is giving Edge a second chance since he's on a laptop that doesn't contain any of his IE settings anyway.

< 1447862030 406053 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem to have added some tooltips.
< 1447862223 209487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We probably hvae to figure this out fast (in a day or two), because if we don't, then knowing David, he might come up with a ten page long essay clearly explaining the answer, with a detailed introdcution to BCKW calculus to laymen.
< 1447862315 405746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if he doesn't, then ais523 will give an answer in a few weeks.
< 1447862325 154858 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter, it will be in french anyway
< 1447862351 14604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, when I ask questions in English, David usually answers in English. 
< 1447862359 456675 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1447862416 678375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I understand correctly, David Madore is native bilingual French and English, and also a polyglot who cares about lots of other languages.
< 1447862526 854149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, if ais523 answers it, then the answer will be a four line solution with a minimal translation from BCKW or some such thing to Amycus-Sequenti without rule 0, not a detailed essay of the background.
< 1447862711 802075 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um have you ever seen ais523 write
< 1447862757 205777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, probably not really that dense
< 1447862764 508699 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop has too coarse brightness settings :(
< 1447862776 805633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep having that problem with the volume setting on everything
< 1447862794 509874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't there be five volume buttons, for fast increase, fast decrease, fine increase, fine decrease, mute?
< 1447862839 901690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where if you press mute, then press mute again, then it unmutes to the previous level, but if you instead mute then press increase then it increases starting from zero)
< 1447862896 396942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45502&oldid=45501 5* 03B jonas 5* (+62) 10
< 1447863042 740972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus Severus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45503&oldid=45489 5* 03B jonas 5* (+12) 10
< 1447863387 457531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperamicus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45504&oldid=45476 5* 03B jonas 5* (+124) 10/* Notes */
< 1447863412 366730 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, "increase-when-muted is increase-from-zero" is a great idea actually...
< 1447863473 343022 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that behavior already exists in some switches.  It's the fine and fast controls that aren't used much, and especially not in sound volume controls.
< 1447863492 675907 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nod
< 1447863508 213844 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some television sets increase from zero after mute, and the dimmer light switche in my room also does that.
< 1447863569 353834 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the volume and brightness controls are deliberately restricted from below so they don't have to solve dumb customer service problems like "the monitor doesn't work" => "turn on the brightness".
< 1447863585 4447 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, most people only need two buttons: increase sound power and decrease sound power.
< 1447863631 545435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good knob/wheel would cater for both purposes I think
< 1447863710 575211 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447863732 737933 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: no, I need a full turing-complete perl scriptable interface for volume control with a real keyboard and large monitor.
< 1447863737 654381 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :with increase/decrease buttons I find it to take a while to get used to how much a single press affects the current level
< 1447863775 376027 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is also software where the increase is linear, instead of exponential)
< 1447863906 210017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'll probably have to look this up in the bird book to understand how this BC stuff works, AND try to figure it out if I can do abstraction elimination without rule 0 that way.
< 1447863981 393635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I fail, I'll have to wait for David or ais523
< 1447864169 441940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might also have to implement this transformation stuff, plus write some sample programs, to verify my arguments.
< 1447864334 112588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... actually
< 1447864372 788009 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :89+56+2
< 1447864379 312241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah
< 1447864387 865705 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno
< 1447864394 313960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 89+56+2
< 1447864394 939178 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 147
< 1447864397 773081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was tapping on the num pad and my hand was further right than I thought
< 1447864400 295926 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447864402 470241 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord
< 1447864429 207843 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord
< 1447864693 898063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's possible to directly transform S and K to Amycus somehow, in some representation.
< 1447864751 732827 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447864766 695594 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447864789 336881 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447865031 802167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's better to transform B, C, K, W directly?
< 1447865079 159731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more, (Bxy), (Cx), (Kx), (Wx) or something like that, whatever is enough for the abstraction elimination
< 1447865103 42266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to read how the abstraction elimination to BCKW works
< 1447865225 813809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me think. if you don't use rule 2, then rule 5 is the only way to build a new tuple. how can we get that tuple out of it apart from by <5, <0>: r>?
< 1447865282 684209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule is E(<5, q, p1, …, pn>, x) = E(q, ) 
< 1447865333 351642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if head q is 1, the tuple is thrown away; if head q is 2, the tuple is completely dismantled so building it has no point; 
< 1447865347 513630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/head q is 2/head q is 3/
< 1447865377 617907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that leaves head q as 5 or 6. Is 5 enough?
< 1447865456 568765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with head q = 5, you recursively get the same problem, one level inside, I think
< 1447865487 474152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use some nested levels of <5, q: p> but eventually you have to use rule 6 somehow
< 1447865515 203554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rule 6 isn't ok either, it also immediately dismantles the lits.
< 1447865540 783167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I think rules 1, 3, 5, 6 aren't enough for Turing-completeness.
< 1447865553 713783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 4 doesn't help there.
< 1447865569 349730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And rule 2 alone is very unlikely to help, and is almost certainly not what David thouhgt
< 1447865592 241737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This means I'll have to examine and debug that example program David wrote.
< 1447865620 249654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that one might also be using rule 0, because it does have an (1 0) in it
< 1447865642 473600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :<1, 0> or <5, <0>> are two ways to generate a zero
< 1447865691 765795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it looks as if he was using the constant 0 only for the arithmetic,. 
< 1447865693 533817 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange.
< 1447865708 270483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a simple program that doesn't demonstrate enough of Turing?
< 1447865721 457795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it does recursion, so it has to do _something_.
< 1447865731 248588 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday someone seemed kind of unnerved when I explained that numeric char escapes in Haskell are variable-length.
< 1447865761 333740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the language still be turing-complete if you can't build new tuples? Unlikely.
< 1447865871 676083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh....!!!
< 1447865887 243966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... that can't work even that way
< 1447865897 138820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way
< 1447865914 501744 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm really misunderstanding something about this language, and should check by debugging later.
< 1447866026 794004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he's building tuples, but never returns them, but only passes them through rule 5 to other rule 5 and eventually to rule 6? But even then, that can't work.
< 1447866075 339637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can it?
< 1447866079 181814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy
< 1447866181 571634 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447866401 180481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, here's how you might get the identity from recursion and successor: f  |-> if a = b then c else f ; start with f <1,n+1,0>
< 1447866432 63807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have not thought this through to the end.
< 1447866833 741016 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: did you tell them about \& ?
< 1447866844 442371 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1447866912 843372 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447866928 412395 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I tried to explain about \SO and \SOH but he wasn’t interested.
< 1447866936 767274 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh this keyboard seems to be set to norwegian but the main markings are swedish.
< 1447866982 112993 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "ä0"
< 1447866984 114927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\228\&0"
< 1447867000 227306 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\SO" ++ "H"
< 1447867006 27642 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\SO" ++ "H"
< 1447867007 723614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\SO\&H"
< 1447867011 590533 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly.
< 1447867060 693865 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to translate this Show instance for Idris, it looks kinda goofy with the special cases.
< 1447867084 472040 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> show (x++y :: String) == init (show x) ++ tail (show y)
< 1447867087 116245 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 5 tests and 5 shrinks):
< 1447867087 264689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\ETX?Z\227" "3L\NAK\DLE"
< 1447867121 738849 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me thinks it isn't shrinking hard enough
< 1447867231 162032 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.212 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447867250 160030 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, my current Idris project is a thing that will hopefully allow one to type-provide C types into an Idris program.
< 1447867266 163411 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION already found enough new annoying quirks in Edge to go back to IE again

< 1447867311 51232 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I work really hard at it, it may end up being possible to transport in a C function without ever specifying its type manually.
< 1447867416 96689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end idris accidentally becomes a type-safe full C compiler
< 1447867836 731608 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\SO vs. \SOH vs. \SO\&\H seems kind-of silly to me
< 1447867870 84822 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I suppose it makes sense if one really wants named escapes for all ASCII control characters
< 1447867895 660606 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :__sync built-ins make no sense except on itaniums, or I'm a mistaken there?
< 1447867912 660520 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the other architectures have hardware chache protocols that makes them in-sync
< 1447867915 830000 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cache
< 1447868036 218622 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\NL'
< 1447868038 365897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3:
< 1447868038 514558 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     lexical error in string/character literal at character 'N'
< 1447868045 261479 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\LF'
< 1447868046 971059 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\n'
< 1447868050 142741 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was it.
< 1447868165 9660 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\x110000'
< 1447868167 275120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:9: numeric escape sequence out of range at character '0'
< 1447868224 753857 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\n'
< 1447868226 768619 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\n'
< 1447868894 167455 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447868957 213045 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea
< 1447869005 999092 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I need some terminology
< 1447869047 663552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the proper term for a map where keys are values and values are keys; essentially, if m[k] = v, m[v] = k
< 1447869088 630738 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn’t that in general have to be a pair of maps?
< 1447869091 809802 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a bi-directional map
< 1447869106 924717 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with forward and reverse lookup
< 1447869141 106903 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forming a partial bijection?
< 1447869146 929442 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are called bidirectional maps.
< 1447869151 277839 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Not necessarily forward and reverse lookup; every value needs to be unique.
< 1447869170 466502 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: OK. I'll stick with that. I've been calling them Symmetric Dicts, but that might be a term for something else.
< 1447869173 657555 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidirectional_map
< 1447869177 306138 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a WP article.
< 1447869178 121491 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...
< 1447869195 887445 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's what it is.
< 1447869204 179609 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what to google to find the wiki article xD
< 1447869217 954641 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forward lookup is key -> value, reverse lookup is value -> key
< 1447869224 474754 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's the terminology I use.
< 1447869233 116730 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell would one call that a “hash bag” …
< 1447869241 650677 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because
< 1447869243 674896 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of hash bagging
< 1447869264 450282 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bag is already a thing that could be implemented with hashing.
< 1447869282 280768 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The practice of dangling your hash tables in someone's face.
< 1447869285 111525 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I do use it in a language I'm making called Kastor; you can have maps of the syntax {key<=>value, key2<=>value, etc.}
< 1447869293 329559 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as normal maps with :
< 1447869302 855292 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And something else I'm formulating with =>
< 1447869318 414717 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the outer brackets change whether it's ordered or not
< 1447869389 516017 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.52 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1447870418 699258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symmetry14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45505 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2885) 10Tokens
< 1447870498 104210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symmetry14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45506&oldid=45505 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+17) 10Fixed formatting
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< 1447873656 726794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45507&oldid=45496 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (+15) 10Fix cumulative addition program to not be quite as broken.
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< 1447875855 160104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symmetry14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45508&oldid=45506 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+596) 10Grammar, functions
< 1447875883 267303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symmetry14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45509&oldid=45508 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10/* Grammar */ Formatting
< 1447876142 574399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oerjan, ais523 (if he's here): I was thinking more about the Amycus language, and it's VERY interesting, for all the good and esoteric reasons
< 1447876171 557654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, if you start restricting it by omitting rules from Amycus or from Amycus Severus, you get interesting and different subsets
< 1447876176 837490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to describe these later
< 1447876182 863073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found some very interesting things
< 1447876270 200576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, David writes both that rule 0 is probably not needed and that programming Amycus is somewhat similar to programming unlambda. It turns out that these are true separately, but not together: programming Amycus without rule 0 is no longer similar to programming unlambda
< 1447876316 985290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omitting rule 0 but keeping rule 2 and 4 still results in a Turing-complete language, but one where you can't just translate lambda expressions the way I did, 
< 1447876364 905408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it can no longer manipulate recursive tree structures (of lists or functions), but can still manipulate numbers (arbitrarily large) enough to get at least something like fractran.
< 1447876414 83529 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you omit rule 0 and 2, you get something that is no longer Turing complete, and it's in a sense exactly primitive recursive,
< 1447876434 925251 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an interesting way.
< 1447876451 618858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still true if besides 0 and 2, you omit 4 and make the language Severus.
< 1447876478 386306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also thinking of omitting rule 1, which has interesting consequences as you combine with the variants, but I don't completely see all combinations.
< 1447876529 278359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think omitting any of rule 3, 5, 6 probably immediately reduces the language to not powerful enough, but I'm not quite sure in this.
< 1447876661 221468 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 9 rules to start from (the 8 numbered rules, plus the Severus variant), can try to keep any subset of them, and examine the resulting language.
< 1447876784 881481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, I messed up, I randomly call the hyper language Hyperamicus and Hyperamycus. It should be the latter.
< 1447876822 3176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperamicus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45510&oldid=45504 5* 03B jonas 5* (+0) 10spelling
< 1447876830 549709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03B jonas 5*  10moved [[02Hyperamicus10]] to [[Hyperamycus]]
< 1447876859 313299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45513&oldid=45502 5* 03B jonas 5* (+0) 10spelling
< 1447876869 333294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always have trouble with words that contain "y" as a vowel.
< 1447877150 502366 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1447877258 254783 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris
< 1447877393 691756 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447877467 608079 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo!
< 1447877470 555264 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WalText2i works!
< 1447877473 674417 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION celebrates

< 1447877490 953674 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to convert every single font for WalText2 to it!
< 1447877492 23164 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1447877510 494433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45514&oldid=45481 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+943) 10/* Parsing */
< 1447877550 720959 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might right a converter xD
< 1447878030 161145 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's that?
< 1447878045 593784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*write
< 1447878053 843684 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's a text renderer for WalrusOS
< 1447878110 86582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er ok...
< 1447878116 738443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do?
< 1447878121 758194 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? waltext
< 1447878123 846977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waltext? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447878127 266349 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? waltext2i
< 1447878128 298286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waltext2i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447878139 581163 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it renders text, duh
< 1447878193 270855 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you have any new sample output screenshots?
< 1447878220 160743 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1447878237 824358 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Not yet
< 1447878249 936179 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think imgur is blocked on my School Wifi
< 1447878274 925740 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yep. I'll get a screenshot when I'm on unfiltered wifi.
< 1447878387 267632 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Would you like to see an example of font code?
< 1447878396 121417 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :line 0 0+16i / line (-2~2)+19i 21i
< 1447878659 158155 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447878773 967944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! I got i working!
< 1447879380 649087 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :github's new look is cooool
< 1447880132 930989 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :awkward moment when two complete strangers star my random brainstorms on github and i don't even know why
< 1447880737 710372 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What new look?
< 1447880768 23724 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/blog/2085-a-new-look-for-repositories
< 1447880821 676152 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Ah. Doesn't look too much different to me xD
< 1447881002 7006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus Severus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45515&oldid=45503 5* 03B jonas 5* (+375) 10
< 1447881289 383373 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jwghzpwsymxdqkgn QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1447881302 705124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45516&oldid=45513 5* 03B jonas 5* (+446) 10
< 1447881390 463714 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iqcvfasviyllrppd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447881396 413333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still editing this stuff
< 1447881403 737648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a lot to say, and might not say all of it today
< 1447881412 982777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amycus proved to be really interesting
< 1447882212 135985 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lkjjdvrrzsjtdwzg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
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< 1447882737 381843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45517&oldid=45516 5* 03B jonas 5* (+326) 10
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< 1447883873 297760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45518&oldid=45514 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+2253) 10/* Input/Output */
< 1447883939 310399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45519&oldid=45517 5* 03B jonas 5* (+196) 10
< 1447884190 862874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45520&oldid=45519 5* 03B jonas 5* (-13) 10
< 1447884219 613746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus Severus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45521&oldid=45515 5* 03B jonas 5* (-4) 10
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< 1447884858 381350 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447885416 29408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1447885482 928817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45522&oldid=45520 5* 03B jonas 5* (+582) 10
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< 1447887149 380528 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447887863 320535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45523&oldid=45518 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+1113) 10/* Loops */
< 1447887917 16690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45524&oldid=45522 5* 03B jonas 5* (+1845) 10
< 1447887932 777496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45525&oldid=45523 5* 03Blakusl 5* (-17) 10/* Input/Output */
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< 1447888425 442952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1447888538 600521 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikharound
< 1447888550 168612 :shikharound!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1447889466 495506 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :driyoyleujiy
< 1447889471 830281 :driyoyleujiy!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1447889585 950630 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :FireyFly
< 1447889598 305975 :FireyFly!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1447891054 963507 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447891081 571693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45526&oldid=45524 5* 03B jonas 5* (+1062) 10
< 1447891099 248737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was horrible
< 1447891133 691139 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-jord1.cryptostorm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1447891263 120429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas. unuglifying the wiki?
< 1447891269 843016 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1447891269 991581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 21h 24m 17s ago: no, my computer _is_ still working enough to copy more
< 1447891270 140307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 9h 18m 15s ago: would the translated chicken be moved to the other side of the road?
< 1447891290 1068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: unuglifying AND adding new content
< 1447891303 401218 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. only if the road is affine.
< 1447891314 398000 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ō_Ō!
< 1447891457 765163 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Amycus is a new language (as in, it was published a few days ago), and has some very interesting properties that I'm still trying to figure out
< 1447891470 509236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already figured out a lot, but not everything of course
< 1447891486 905618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you probably can't figure out everything, because it's an expressive enough programming language)
< 1447891542 410118 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figuring everything probably is isomorphic to the halting problem.
< 1447891703 473829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45527&oldid=45526 5* 03B jonas 5* (+17949) 10
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< 1447891756 454759 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-jord1.cryptostorm.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1447891882 485880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45528&oldid=45527 5* 03B jonas 5* (-18043) 10
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< 1447893871 364316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45531&oldid=45530 5* 03B jonas 5* (+107) 10
< 1447894176 179947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45532&oldid=45525 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+508) 10/* Interpreters */
< 1447894199 788024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45533&oldid=45532 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+6) 10/* Interpreters */
< 1447894395 284079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45534&oldid=45304 5* 0369.138.247.193 5* (+16) 10Added second infinite loop option
< 1447894666 956573 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447896800 558389 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily!
< 1447896805 790283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia!
< 1447896827 126343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you dont mind my golfing all the aubergine examples
< 1447896842 579561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking about aubergine derivatives
< 1447896856 513237 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels all warm and fuzzy ^^

< 1447896863 439554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gâte-toé!
< 1447896863 829722 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you realize the : is not necessary for TCness?
< 1447896870 12510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh?
< 1447896895 436258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :with =i you can do computed gotos
< 1447896971 73728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.
< 1447897050 532938 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I need to create another esoteric language.
< 1447897078 981263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :questions:
< 1447897092 476440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is o only available in =
< 1447897180 974165 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because lazyness, p < 0.05.
< 1447897188 594473 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :w
< 1447897218 655480 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to add extra code to prevent o being used elsewhere.
< 1447897228 65295 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in python interp
< 1447897238 420 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not I and O?
< 1447897281 950968 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because extreme laziness :D
< 1447897290 292132 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you just laugh with w?)
< 1447897307 77824 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmm.
< 1447897321 708983 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. hmm?
< 1447897335 503679 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to think of esolang ideas.
< 1447897346 531887 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, /// has got to be one of the best esolangs of all time.
< 1447897397 477306 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan HAH!
< 1447897397 626356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447897447 476077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan (uhm. disregard the previous HAH. I'm still having trouble with your family name not being Johansen.)
< 1447897447 624768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447897509 477534 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neural nets are all the rage, right? Could I make an esolang based on backpropagation?
< 1447897572 801947 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm going to make like five aubergine derivatives :p
< 1447897695 837789 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. Thue where instead of a string, you have a portion of a virtual knot. The generalized Reidemeister moves are implicit.
< 1447897698 852179 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, there's the language.
< 1447897706 152444 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone write the spec please thanks.
< 1447897769 291291 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potential names: Anatabine, cuscohygrine, solauricidine, solauricine, tomato, potato, datura, hyoscyameæ...
< 1447897805 730836 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins
< 1447897806 473439 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords
< 1447897885 371338 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/langs
< 1447897886 292433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/langs: ERROR: cannot open `bin/langs' (No such file or directory)
< 1447897888 468153 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re '\''s/( |$)/lang\1/g'\' > bin/langs
< 1447897890 847854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447897891 921864 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`langs
< 1447897892 664409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/langs: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/langs: cannot execute: Permission denied
< 1447897899 104421 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/langs
< 1447897901 115878 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1447897901 908547 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`langs
< 1447897904 727773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddrenlang justoelang stalang suzylang wikingarchalang nandmuralang fureheanalang drailang baktariolang unineanitestelysinglefootorycogsdaulang spagheadlang kipjlang skolang maddulang tyalang toilang verblang malitylang syncorrlang agrava2klang
< 1447897922 105779 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unineanitestelysinglefootorycogsdaulang.
< 1447897942 758913 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should call it "oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland".
< 1447897978 763431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like CHEF but it has an extra instruction for leaving the cake out in the rain?
< 1447898039 461036 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of long ooooooooo names: who has nooodl morphed into again?
< 1447898064 440725 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooooodl
< 1447898065 662240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl is the correct spelling
< 1447898077 52660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maur
< 1447898077 983215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maur? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1447898081 986286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mauris
< 1447898083 11772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maur is the correct spelling
< 1447898121 717791 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf.
< 1447898147 368186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can reward me with a pooch pic hth
< 1447898170 980490 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland
< 1447898171 741989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland. Thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodland.
< 1447898192 651265 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe aubergine-0, aubergine unlimited or just "Purple"
< 1447898213 679166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a song about potatoes, tomatoes, gravy and peas.
< 1447898219 911512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google potatoes tomatoes gravy and peas
< 1447898220 710787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6R5x1VP2b4
< 1447898227 268489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you watch the video I posted yesterday? it has wigged pooches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seh9_sFv1Z4
< 1447898262 716375 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Purple.
< 1447898324 715300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: un cabot perruque?
< 1447898430 420569 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«un cabot à perruque».
< 1447898454 274340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :un pooch à wig
< 1447898489 842260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out that the pooch game is wigged against you.
< 1447898553 483944 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacks shachaf with a sailor moon wigged mapole

< 1447898661 330828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a juwy-wigged contwaption
< 1447898680 41664 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the name of the Moon Moon, please stop!
< 1447898818 786869 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447899016 848129 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Un film à clef.
< 1447899044 542750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447899049 123092 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limité à gauche.
< 1447899057 967040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grabbes la clef à tswett to thwacke shachaf avec

< 1447899067 134718 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :limité à gauche?
< 1447899093 217007 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATWP I got it wrong. It's "limite à gauche".
< 1447899111 590073 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnrh...
< 1447899121 248540 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limited to the left.
< 1447899260 924730 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is being limited to the left?
< 1447899287 362979 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E que voyer. Bonne fortune. Parlaz français mais bon que je, porquoi je simplement supone.
< 1447899332 737050 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off.  Probably rebooting or something.
< 1447899367 828522 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett uses confusion. it's super effective.
< 1447899445 70269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1447899451 7792 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're never online when work is over
< 1447899455 997550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
< 1447899563 179312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to write the laziest version of aubergine: dedicated symbols for commands, all alphabet is registers and can be dereferenced. Due to lack of restrictions, implemementation could be cgolfed to a few short lines.
< 1447899629 103715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then extend it: all digits represent themselves, all symbols that look like standard operations are commands that do those things
< 1447899641 945434 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like betterave...
< 1447899660 417246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :betterave is self-modifying?
< 1447899673 766620 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447899678 217234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuh... nope.
< 1447899752 608916 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would definitely be auberginey
< 1447899764 57995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still very few commands, still only 2-arity
< 1447899784 579758 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still entirely proceural
< 1447899808 149822 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just set up to make the interpreter as small as possible
< 1447899821 873436 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447899823 807658 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447899823 973535 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447899825 747492 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447899826 633489 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1447899828 612192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and removing some annoying limitations)
< 1447899839 938386 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also are you on my half of this netsplit?
< 1447899848 439436 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447899866 830217 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447899896 951974 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am here.
< 1447899900 190999 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447899901 26754 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447899941 670825 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have seen things... things I just choose not to talk about... Things that seem to offend everybody... Welcome to my study ♪)
< 1447900098 347629 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to compose the application of my head on my pillow.
< 1447900122 679754 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne nuitopia!
< 1447900136 337019 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VIGESIMAL CHICKEN
< 1447901190 173630 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447901830 882488 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 3k points on codeeval \o/
< 1447901854 941571 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all from bash \o/
< 1447902236 788722 :andrew__!~andrew@14.154.167.241 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447902240 358884 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447902251 131993 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447902395 863644 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1447902396 48855 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447902479 90184 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447902495 31968 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WalText2i is working :)
< 1447902503 423088 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My next step is to increase the eso- factor
< 1447902562 480002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something akin to complex numbers for angles I can use to represent the (start, end) points for arcs and something for the radii of arcs and ellarcs?
< 1447902624 382748 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Would you happen to know of anything?
< 1447902688 353371 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex numbers
< 1447902765 187915 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But those don't seem good for representing the start and end points for angles.
< 1447902767 146475 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or arcs
< 1447902771 810984 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcs, not angles
< 1447902792 924949 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write them in polar form
< 1447902829 207607 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to type greek letters
< 1447902838 735780 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :|z| (cos(phi)+ i sin(phi)
< 1447902840 159770 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :|z| (cos(phi)+ i sin(phi))
< 1447902867 877780 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe that i can type đ but not phi
< 1447902874 902600 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid keyboard
< 1447903070 709285 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1447904495 348714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gives me an idea
< 1447904504 856683 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could map the extra key in the top left of my laptop to dead_greek
< 1447905235 333309 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: φ Φ
< 1447905238 10537 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can type it now!
< 1447905286 212714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :λαμβδα
< 1447905294 77267 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :καππα
< 1447905363 89910 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447905463 78348 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mapped rwin to compose, guess right ctrl can become dead_greek
< 1447905817 85206 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dscharrer/void/tree/master/xkb  oh you can add your own sequences
< 1447905819 452573 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1447906613 83100 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UGGH
< 1447906642 55021 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uggh?
< 1447906642 243893 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to type something in greek then I somehow lost it
< 1447906658 108447 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :type it again?
< 1447906675 584117 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :get an editor that can undo your changes?
< 1447906744 966517 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ηελλο
< 1447906748 182480 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1447906771 597723 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can type greek letters by typing their names in japanese
< 1447906781 146722 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so handy
< 1447906876 26997 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-ta epushiron ramuda ramuda omikuron
< 1447906953 336341 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it ramubuda ?
< 1447906967 677461 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ramuda λ
< 1447907026 287257 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i forgot about the lamda calculus
< 1447907106 781050 :andrew__!~andrew@14.154.167.241 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447907166 975479 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arufa be-ta ganma deruta epushiron ze-ta e-ta te-ta iota kappa ramuda myu- nyu- kushi- omikuron pai ro- shiguma tau yupushiron fai ki- pushi- omega
< 1447907303 141052 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused
< 1447907341 799322 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what?
< 1447907367 551921 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :kushi- pushi-
< 1447907383 590052 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ξ　ψ
< 1447907391 978869 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds so weird
< 1447907392 127585 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xi and psi
< 1447907481 335682 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ψ
< 1447907506 138439 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :θΘ
< 1447907524 375720 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also find confusing pai and fai but that's italian's fault
< 1447907585 148683 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kushi- can also be gotten with kusai
< 1447907657 816748 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, kusai means "smelly" in japanese 臭い
< 1447907794 767750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myu- and nyu- -> mi ni ?
< 1447907833 728331 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :μν -> in english, mu and nu
< 1447907851 200271 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it mee nee ?
< 1447907861 639233 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english
< 1447907863 852798 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, mu pronounced myu
< 1447907872 591460 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nu pronounces nyu
< 1447907879 820861 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had no idea
< 1447908021 612574 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm can i type a qoppa?
< 1447908080 825803 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not. makes sense, qoppa isn't in Shift-JIS
< 1447908143 54562 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Я
< 1447908145 659520 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya-
< 1447908151 950859 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t
< 1447908170 195188 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remembered that Shift-JIS has cyrillic
< 1447908182 341906 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Д
< 1447908348 466747 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, exactly, does it have Cyrillic?
< 1447908381 116107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from "why not", which might be the case...
< 1447908442 809755 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: argh, I donn't know. both greek and cyrillic are treated as categories of kanji (they are double-byte characters)
< 1447908475 842616 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese fixed width fonts like MS Gothic have them as wide
< 1447908560 920278 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not much tends to rely on that, thankfully.
< 1447908612 376909 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Shift-JIS art relies on the metrics, but Shift-JIS art uses MS PGothic, not MS Gothic.)
< 1447908696 90274 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i don't seem to be able to type е
< 1447908811 129235 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: many DBCS tends to have many other characters besides from the original script. for example, KS X 1001 has kanas, greeks, cyrillics and extended latins.
< 1447908819 352779 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many DBCSes tend to*
< 1447908846 483900 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems silly, but eh.
< 1447908859 298226 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like they had better uses for the space.
< 1447908879 91829 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447908886 801352 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well eventually they started filling in the spare space with emoji
< 1447908909 424938 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have tons of space (94 by 94) you can give some room for other scripts
< 1447908925 446672 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emoji weren't really in any DBCS used in more than one system though.
< 1447908925 625029 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, many DBCSes have a concept of PUA
< 1447908940 153200 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Emojis were originally encoded as PUA
< 1447908951 855801 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(each cell network had their own mapping in the DBCS or Unicode PUAs)
< 1447908953 952813 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and escape codes and HTMLs, they were actually implementation details)
< 1447909063 361195 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then they go in Unicode because seriously, characters that don't go in Unicode is nonsense.
< 1447909192 488461 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We needed universal standard platform-independent emoji.
< 1447909208 366931 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this was in fact a pressing need for the Japanese market.
< 1447911447 799164 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would prefer to have emoji than things that interpret emoticons

< 1447911454 386925 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, emoticons are easier to type.
< 1447912218 592716 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447913428 806905 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oДo ＜ｶﾞｱｱｱｱｱｱｱｱﾝ
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< 1447918910 922122 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering adding Roulettes and similar things (think Spirographs) to WalText2i
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< 1447924547 517492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45535&oldid=45531 5* 03B jonas 5* (+1247) 10
< 1447924571 495966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45536&oldid=45535 5* 03B jonas 5* (-6) 10/* TODO earlier notes */
< 1447926339 997849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bas 5*  10New user account
< 1447926401 537410 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-
< 1447926401 685923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 8h 3m 24s ago: HAH!
< 1447926401 834385 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 8h 2m 34s ago: (uhm. disregard the previous HAH. I'm still having trouble with your family name not being Johansen.)
< 1447926408 411785 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily WAT?
< 1447926408 560442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447926515 177068 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i think you're still confused, at any rate.
< 1447926515 325855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447926545 789492 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily it _is_ johansen hth
< 1447926545 938164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1447926612 196161 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqzsaconfegvflwb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1447928241 102456 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1447928528 355603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much David deliberately chose to define Amycus to be so interesting, and how much is an accident.
< 1447928558 206134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how much of the esolang do you think was deliberate?
< 1447928582 908043 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1447928618 288588 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447929043 231436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45537 5* 03Bas 5* (+2160) 10Created page with "'''Binerdy''' was created by [[user:Bas]] to reminiscence the old days, when computers only understood zeroes and ones  ==Language overview==  A Binerdy program only knows of ..."
< 1447929406 696976 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :new puzzle in the tatham collection...
< 1447929580 216632 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is the new one?
< 1447929907 920864 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :palisade
< 1447930118 914917 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's not immediately obvious how to deduce much from this...
< 1447930183 465268 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447930267 346731 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION revelation

< 1447930374 144052 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay solved one
< 1447930383 45905 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1447930401 666205 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has 2 regions so far

< 1447930464 441189 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1447930494 298114 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees the solution but stubbornly wants to prove it unique

< 1447930524 239833 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there.
< 1447930538 542777 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once more with feeling
< 1447930621 92286 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh it's hard not to accidentally apply the intuitions from playing too much Loopy :P
< 1447930754 816905 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :second done
< 1447930760 397776 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447930860 733928 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :third
< 1447931003 509378 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ups the size

< 1447931077 542784 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's 6 per region now
< 1447931113 379535 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1447932655 921659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45538&oldid=45536 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+57) 10/* Definition */ expand list expression
< 1447932977 319847 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447933011 115526 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stops after having solved http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/js/palisade.html#10x8n8:f1c1b11a12221a2a22222g103a22b0a2a3b1d2a3a2e32a2

< 1447933036 7408 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I've seen this before somewhere, hmm)
< 1447933055 137489 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the help text says it's a nikoli puzzle
< 1447933305 601939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe, but I only know the nikoli puzzles that they offer on their free website
< 1447933347 616390 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several other puzzles that vaguely resemble this, though.
< 1447933361 884850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some similarity between palisade and slitherlink (loopy ... ah, you've realized that already. of course.)
< 1447933397 569836 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Filling
< 1447933411 951404 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not that similar
< 1447933418 607776 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but confusing
< 1447933483 649116 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rect and range, to fill out those with "numbers in rectangular grid"
< 1447933547 725809 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1447933855 441472 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I've encountered the name before... www.marksteeregames.com/Palisade_rules.pdf
< 1447934391 709986 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-246.rentec.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
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< 1447934620 546122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45539&oldid=45537 5* 03Bas 5* (+358) 10
< 1447934699 592009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45540&oldid=45539 5* 03Bas 5* (+0) 10
< 1447934736 179629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45541&oldid=45540 5* 03Bas 5* (+0) 10
< 1447935466 178171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45542&oldid=45541 5* 03Bas 5* (+53) 10/* Instructions */
< 1447935467 272100 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1447935467 420769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 2h 30m 58s ago: WAT?
< 1447935467 569385 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 29m 12s ago: i think you're still confused, at any rate.
< 1447935467 569463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 28m 41s ago: it _is_ johansen hth
< 1447935479 990930 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. the confusion runs deep.
< 1447935554 589017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic
< 1447935568 709382 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoily
< 1447935609 886289 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1447935610 383177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191200Z CCA 14018KT 30SM SCT045 BKN065 OVC230 11/07 A3007 RMK SC3SC4CI1 SLP183
< 1447935615 30917 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA
< 1447935615 427403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 191150Z 10003KT 9999 FEW009 SCT018 M01/M03 Q0997 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 15004KT
< 1447935624 854403 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so bad ^^
< 1447935665 494191 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FABRIC CHICKEN
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< 1447935872 430556 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACHOO*
< 1447935895 312665 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a new winter coat yesterday, otherwise it _would_ be bad
< 1447935935 50244 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly hit-and-run boily
< 1447936233 814875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1447936236 57004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it
< 1447936245 568200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :UberGenes is functional!
< 1447936266 749068 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i again stayed up all night
< 1447936267 712301 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1447936326 799039 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447937004 981930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45543&oldid=45542 5* 03Bas 5* (+166) 10/* Instructions */
< 1447937040 116840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi
< 1447937040 412280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 191220Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT120 BKN300 11/M00 Q1020 NOSIG
< 1447937073 318550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45544&oldid=45543 5* 03Bas 5* (+1) 10/* Cat */
< 1447937380 770191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45545&oldid=45544 5* 03Bas 5* (-4) 10/* Instructions */
< 1447937641 109390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45546&oldid=45545 5* 03Bas 5* (+55) 10/* Instructions */
< 1447937673 421929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
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< 1447937783 707808 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binerdy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45547&oldid=45546 5* 03Bas 5* (+14) 10/* Cat */
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< 1447938735 31169 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm late, but haskell's \& thing has always struck me as sort of silly
< 1447938826 304692 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be cool to have, say, "{escaped}" instead of "\escaped"
< 1447938850 589470 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "this string{n}has a newline in it" looks much more readable to me. but oh no, C doesn't do that!!
< 1447938995 856981 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally disagree
< 1447939002 203318 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :also compare "{SOH}{SO}H" vs "\SOH\SO\&H", or "{123}{x45}6" vs "\123\x45\&6"
< 1447939044 788003 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :to put {} in strings... you could have {{ and }}, i think?
< 1447939155 528047 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how much of that do you think is up to the fact that you're used to "\n"?
< 1447939210 548041 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: likely, all of it
< 1447939225 289664 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1447939233 868377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm a lot more likely to want to print { and } than \
< 1447939303 923296 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just not programming enough /// hth
< 1447939359 189312 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, \ sort of lacks meaning outside of programming. maybe "dos/windows file path separator"
< 1447939438 971234 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, i don't think i put {} in strings all *that* often either. usually () and [] suffice. it would suck for quick code generation scripts though :(
< 1447939503 675303 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, print("int main() {{ ... }}") is a bit weird. also printing JSON by hand. these are things you "shouldn't do" but in the real world obviously people do 'em
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< 1447940721 437198 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard
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< 1447941939 119139 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the halting problem is not NP-complete because it is not in NP?
< 1447942424 312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1447942492 610552 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447942947 80108 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447946252 304622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45548&oldid=45507 5* 03SilverWingedSeraph 5* (+280) 10Bring up to date with 64d2433
< 1447947001 923048 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Yes, it is merely NP-hard. A problem is NPC iff it is both NP and NP-hard.
< 1447947862 146092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!
< 1447947873 36928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... now I understand what he was saying
< 1447947919 748458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :David says that I defined Amycus wrong, namely rule 6
< 1447947927 404072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :his version is actually much easier to program
< 1447947929 973806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains a lot
< 1447947957 649817 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not David who has made a crazy esoteric language actually, but me by making a mistake in the rule.
< 1447947963 721854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1447948061 474392 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1447948065 225915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :his rule 6 is designed so that the language is easy to program, because now he can use <5, <6>: r> for the S rule, rather than having to mess with all the complications
< 1447948077 689767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do I do now?
< 1447948120 17826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably have to document these as separate languages
< 1447948124 775968 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making yet another Amicus derivative.
< 1447948139 889950 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... except it's not really a derivative
< 1447948143 128337 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1447948145 538137 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules 3, 5, 6 are essential
< 1447948154 157710 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't program without _any_ one of them
< 1447948174 625772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if rule 6 is different, then more than half of what I say about the language changes.
< 1447948184 777733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to give it a distinct name
< 1447948408 741131 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amycus Distinctus?
< 1447948461 443073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amycus Beionus
< 1447948531 37668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the evil solution would be to call it Amicus
< 1447948560 297511 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would screw that up more than everyone else
< 1447948652 298032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it should be backwards
< 1447948662 906154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :David's language should be Amycus, and my mangled one Amicus
< 1447949032 561244 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Amicus is a common misspelling of Amycus )
< 1447949214 61463 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447949638 121635 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447950443 521507 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it's not
< 1447950460 796831 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amicus is a common misspelling of Amycus, except when it's not.
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< 1447951642 349680 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BitShift14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45549 5* 03Bas 5* (+1980) 10Created page with "'''BitShift''' was created by [[user:Bas]] to reminisce the old days, when computers only understood zeroes and ones.  ==Language overview==  A BitShift program only knows of ..."
< 1447951773 749670 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I'm surprised there wasn't a language named that already
< 1447952265 494322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Bas14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45550 5* 03Bas 5* (+22) 10Created page with "I created [[BitShift]]"
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< 1447953217 385150 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447954133 458489 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447954578 459684 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447954762 212829 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you sign up for the austing group mailing list, you have to pick a salutation among Dr Eng Miss Mr Mrs Ms Prof
< 1447954779 993898 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all very specific
< 1447954903 430288 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it's 2015, come on
< 1447954933 951276 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf they want my phone number as well
< 1447954985 458842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447955037 564126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so we can call you in case you forget your password"
< 1447955065 69025 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| thanks that's very nice of you
< 1447955316 625887 :irctc267!6dc5a6dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.197.166.220 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447955334 787576 :irctc267!6dc5a6dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.197.166.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1447955412 167775 :Vinegar!~Vinegar@r74-192-91-97.tyrdcmta01.tylrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447955425 107899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome irctc267
< 1447955426 485925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irctc267: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1447955714 790686 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1447955858 112172 :irctc267!6dc5a6dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.197.166.220 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
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< 1447956248 740969 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.189 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
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< 1447956933 251464 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if I generalize trochoids to ellipses instead of circles?
< 1447956945 997232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they become much harder to draw programmatically
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< 1447957222 300867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45551&oldid=45538 5* 03B jonas 5* (+421) 10
< 1447957239 556376 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447957948 136222 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Websites and such asking for titles always weird me out..
< 1447957962 953484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS YOUR TITLE
< 1447957967 878174 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather they didn't use any title at all
< 1447957992 681772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: get a doctorate
< 1447958127 213366 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm is "Prof" legally protected in any way?
< 1447958291 986153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( we could all be professors at the esoteric language institute, the internet 101, worldwide )
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< 1447960556 671421 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine showed me the input that codeeval used in their brainfuck challenge
< 1447960579 419193 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're 10 trivial programs, one per line  http://sprunge.us/XYPj
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< 1447960719 493453 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they're assholes because they didn't specify that you need to write to the right side of the tape
< 1447960732 667330 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err left
< 1447960734 680087 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever
< 1447960757 953979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general I think the codeeval tasks seem to be pretty poorly specified
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< 1447962758 602752 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to add Parabolic arcs to WT2i
< 1447962767 965280 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're coming out weird
< 1447962782 561278 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They stretch up to the top of the screen and are solid black
< 1447962791 208562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't seem like it should be happenning
< 1447962878 501418 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, found the problem. I think.
< 1447963341 128758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I add Sine and Cosine waves to WT2i?
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< 1447963627 557087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll generalize WalText2i to a more PDFy thing
< 1447963812 540331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe
< 1447963895 6579 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447964306 274419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45552 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+3751) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=UberGenes |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:Quintopia]] |year=[[:Category:2015|2015]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] |refimpl..."
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< 1447967771 801466 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iqcvfasviyllrppd QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1447974266 278278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45553&oldid=44605 5* 0377.103.217.201 5* (+103) 10adding bfc
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< 1447974568 498989 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
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< 1447974650 359642 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447974738 904271 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett
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< 1447976549 350546 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447976629 496524 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea for Kastor
< 1447976652 150035 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "." operator: Accepts two integers, returns a float. Yep. I went there.
< 1447976652 298671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :havent we all at some point?
< 1447976669 653623 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No. Kastor is a language I'm making.
< 1447976694 574969 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. must have confused it with Pollucks
< 1447976761 33349 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1447976801 317729 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: In case you're curious, it's a programming language designed for actual, serious usage that draws on my knowledge of Eso.
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< 1447976884 107027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has weird syntax elements like "specials"- a value followed by a name- that you can define to feed that value to a certain class. For example, with a few lines of code you can make "5i" a meaningful token.
< 1447976925 413400 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Preferably, you make it meaningful by feeding it as the second argument of the "complex([real[, imag]])" class so it makes fucking sense)
< 1447976959 700746 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful for code obfuscation? Perhaps. Totally amazing and something I want any programming language I use in the future to have? YES.
< 1447977304 904638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1447977534 582012 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does the '.' operator do anyway?
< 1447977537 133346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes?
< 1447977565 430203 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: In the context of two integers, it essentially joins them into a float with the whole part being the lhs and the decimal part the rhs
< 1447977575 554834 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other contexts, it may do something different
< 1447977577 772169 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1447977583 82037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe not. It might just be for that.
< 1447977585 38067 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... a bit cute
< 1447977606 684341 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It is. I think it's clever and awesome, but it's probably just stupid.
< 1447977630 46076 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the efficiency is probably going to be atrocious. Then again, Kastor isn't a particularly quick language in the first place.
< 1447977698 108869 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, in SQL, an "OUTER SELECT" would make perfect sense.
< 1447977717 114337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: The only problem I can think of with that syntax, though, is if you want to write a float in hex for some reason: You think it should be 0xABC.123, but it'd actually have to be 0xABC.0x123 and there's no way to fix it without making floats just a builtin, which everytime I think about becomes a better and better idea but I'm probably not going to do anyway.
< 1447977743 881796 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so 1.01 would be interpreted as 1.1, aye?
< 1447977792 658021 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ...
< 1447977796 494269 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
< 1447977801 736273 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roll with it.
< 1447977804 779481 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1447977820 140277 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's designed to still be usable, despite drawing on Eso.
< 1447977821 635403 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay.
< 1447977862 962034 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, here's an idea.
< 1447977872 770005 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to the . operator, there's a .0 operator, a .00 operator, and so on.
< 1447977880 956645 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that would be: 1 .0 1
< 1447977900 769395 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to do an OUTER SELECT: Add a NULL row to each table. Take the cartesian product of all those tables. Filter by the WHERE conditions, treating each one involving a NULL as satisfied. Project as desired. Take only the maximum tuples.
< 1447977903 971490 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sump'm like that.
< 1447978005 669614 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447978279 435793 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: But that doesn't fit the operator syntax xD. But no, I'm just sticking with float.
< 1447978313 298587 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another idea.
< 1447978321 476880 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse the digits of the rhs part.
< 1447978337 138993 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The expression 120 . 240 represents 120.042.
< 1447978419 362108 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No. This language is meant to actually be usable.
< 1447978427 531990 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger.
< 1447978436 247420 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, python-usable if speed isn't a big issue.
< 1447978448 195299 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever finish Tokiber, I'll create an Esolang page for it.
< 1447978473 342786 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usability will be a major goal, but *usefulness*, not so much.
< 1447978627 433221 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently working on how integer tokens work
< 1447978680 602598 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, 0b[binary number], 0q[quaternary number], 0o[octal number], and 0x[hex number] are builtin, along with 0n[decimal base]_[arbitrary-base number].
< 1447978723 29296 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define how arbitrary-base numeric alphabets behave; by default they support 0-9a-zA-Z as digits, so you can't yet do base64 constants.
< 1447978784 536129 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All numbers support underscores wherever you like (except leading (that's a variable) and trailing (a special). That does not work).
< 1447978885 770559 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can define your own encodings that just feed a class constructor or a function a string; e.g. 0rn_VII could be programmed to return 0q13 (7)
< 1447978923 160582 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0rn_VII works because any numeric or letter-like character can go after a 0[type]_)
< 1447979670 816642 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, finished the BNF
< 1447979818 591152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I would not recommend: having a moustache
< 1447980035 263504 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so?
< 1447980059 680280 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447980080 636420 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It itches
< 1447980083 875013 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It itches so much
< 1447980092 643091 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah
< 1447980099 824091 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fine
< 1447980103 965526 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tame it
< 1447980110 84448 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :with wax
< 1447980131 460347 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not long enough yet
< 1447980268 568283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447980306 97548 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pzfkbxonggjnvdmm QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1447980334 250339 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-avqcgzsmowqcfuwz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447980348 323003 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck <-- design is hard.
< 1447980361 728242 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. It is.
< 1447980463 44511 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! tell me all.
< 1447980491 621960 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily
< 1447980606 198562 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan!
< 1447980679 396949 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヘロルヤン
< 1447980763 663989 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\. I believe ヘレリャン is closer hth
< 1447980814 131715 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe you're evil for making me use google translate hth
< 1447980867 862116 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ゲハハハハハハ
< 1447981007 149389 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :オホホホホホホ
< 1447981073 240147 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that was a bad idea.
< 1447981081 762464 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ondskapsfulle beist
< 1447981202 297599 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm making a programming language called Kastor. It draws on Eso, but is made for general usage.
< 1447981209 397061 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaguely like perl.
< 1447981214 245928 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is eso.
< 1447981247 223704 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is most definitely eso.
< 1447981281 407040 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm currently working on how integers work; I took the _ syntax from Perl and am allowing custom 0c prefix codes
< 1447981395 745695 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1447981665 678942 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a weird experience listening to a video from ICFP and there being a familiar voice asking a question at the end
< 1447981768 429644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I guess, not that weird
< 1447981779 288994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine it'd be pretty weird if I heard my own voice there
< 1447982310 921118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1447982813 673826 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447983669 332040 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1447985874 839459 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :The ウフフ channel. | /ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/
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< 1447986605 679474 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1447986884 54781 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1447987981 783778 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just integrated my first Unicode character into Kastor :)
< 1447987985 445784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, two
< 1447988026 613815 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, ⧼ and ⧽ to denote arrays/vectors
< 1447988035 839910 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is kastor?
< 1447989038 719411 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizzarama
< 1447989081 447107 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⧼⧽
< 1447989082 329741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+29FC LEFT-POINTING CURVED ANGLE BRACKET] [U+29FD RIGHT-POINTING CURVED ANGLE BRACKET]
< 1447989095 807791 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have those
< 1447989104 671912 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to add them
< 1447989107 684484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1447989133 154277 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm shocked, I thought I had all the damn operators already
< 1447989435 370972 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I changed the symbols because I was using the wrong ones xD
< 1447989507 167465 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now using  	⟨⟩ instead of ⧼⧽ (the former ones were curved and looked a bit nicer, but I prefer the chevrons because they're more typical)
< 1447989530 70232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's from misc operators, as it turns out
< 1447989555 524624 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Programming language I'm making based on the principal that languages should be usable, but combined with all the teachings of Esobuddha.
< 1447989751 951950 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Indian programmers often refer to {"{", "}"} as "Flower Brackets"
< 1447989764 385822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Notice that I used set notation there solely because it's more confusing)
< 1447990798 104949 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does unicode lack the logical xnor?
< 1447990844 141458 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This? https://reference.wolfram.com/language/ref/character/Xnor.html
< 1447990867 232940 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGH, that block (misc math sybols B) is full of annoying crap!
< 1447990911 996473 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, there isn't one in the entire fucking formal logic
< 1447990950 741144 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Thank you! There we go!
< 1447990975 913460 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google helps, you know, rather than digging through a table of unicode values...
< 1447991050 318075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, fonts don't support it
< 1447991054 492498 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not many, at least
< 1447991080 114202 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me the code point and I'll add it if I can draw it
< 1447991144 85146 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: F4A2
< 1447991165 721850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have to embed your font into my IDE for Kastor, \oren\ xD
< 1447991200 276750 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that be cool?
< 1447991218 991649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thsat's a private use character point.
< 1447991239 240992 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. not an official unicode character
< 1447991247 363351 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1447991249 404532 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit.
< 1447991257 458787 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a problem.
< 1447991264 254481 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even GNU unifont won't have it
< 1447991326 683017 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a surrogate symbol to represent logical xor... It has to look good among 
< 1447991326 929682 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∧∨⊻⊼⊽
< 1447991348 397875 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My problem is that even formal logicians don't have a symbol for some reason xD
< 1447991375 912924 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor is the same as not equal, so xnor would be =
< 1447991431 623225 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Except the ∧∨⊻⊼⊽ symbols are type-insensitive, being the "logical" versions of the operator: ''==0 evaluates to false, but ''0 evaluates to true.
< 1447991469 929760 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use some other variant of = 
< 1447991473 277396 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could
< 1447991495 69431 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :≖≗≘≙≚≛≜≝≞≟ any of these look good
< 1447991528 637271 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ≚?
< 1447991532 620801 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you found that one xD
< 1447991548 960698 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are all in my font!
< 1447991552 614097 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no
< 1447991557 667380 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the other one
< 1447991574 966053 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I didn't send the message those last two posts were referring to xD
< 1447991631 72275 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :≙ makes the most sense, as it's "="+"∧", so it's logical. Only problem is people might confuse it for an assignment operator, but oh well
< 1447991663 96544 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer an arrow for assignemtn
< 1447991687 218538 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ← 4
< 1447991696 303539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no
< 1447991713 992386 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :≚ is or. So I'll use that.
< 1447991880 188311 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Maybe I'll use that.
< 1447991935 167150 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to check if a process has a fd that points to a given file?
< 1447991941 516923 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does lsof do it?
< 1447991969 370059 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can think of is to readlink every file in /proc/pid/fd
< 1447991990 736366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Kastor currently has planned 12 different types of builtin collection xD
< 1447992070 690712 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1447992271 775096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: You must know a lot of unicode characters from fontsmithing. Is there a good type of bracket I could use for bags?
< 1447992425 690475 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :⦃⦄
< 1447992436 501858 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⦃⦄
< 1447992437 558399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2983 LEFT WHITE CURLY BRACKET] [U+2984 RIGHT WHITE CURLY BRACKET]
< 1447992484 745525 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I just was thinking that when I openned hexchat to see that suggestion. That was awesome.
< 1447992798 470629 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 possible collections. Wow.
< 1447992814 615427 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ordered bag
< 1447992833 506407 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would just be a sorted array dudu
< 1447992839 414996 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dudu/dude/
< 1447992975 340043 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's one way of representing it, but not the only way
< 1447992990 719281 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus I'm including it
< 1447993003 903840 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, no bagdicts or anything.
< 1447993217 743779 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that doesn't make any sense, and more importantly, it looks almost like "big dicks" and no just no.
< 1447993983 238960 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Combinatory logic/Analysis of combinators14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45554&oldid=45461 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+421) 10Some stuff, I hope
< 1447993990 678163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1447994521 316023 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well in that case the correct character is ⇫
< 1447994573 182960 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe Ⰴ or Ⰲ
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< 1447994801 986531 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ?
< 1447994818 19431 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font won't render any of those characters, so I don't know what you're talking about
< 1447994863 509911 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't render in neoletteres either
< 1447994888 181078 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1447994894 828421 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to keep IRC on neoletters
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< 1447995857 423994 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a multiset a bag?
< 1447995967 759782 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I just remembered I might not want to use x ← 5 as assignment unless there's a good-looking augmented assignment syntax for ← assignment. Do you have anything, \oren\?
< 1447996452 243255 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: afaik
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< 1448001433 429535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Semantic Brain14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45555&oldid=45548 5* 03Zerk 5* (-46) 10Fixed an infinite loop in cumulative adder code.
< 1448001745 592797 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :re. today's girl genius: i bet 10 zorkmids that's othar
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< 1448003086 123281 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's wrong with just using circled plus for xor?
< 1448003087 440811 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: afayk what? I was afk.
< 1448003099 873673 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No, not xor, xnor
< 1448003105 262848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that
< 1448003112 854799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that, triple horizontal line
< 1448003123 747511 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: afa what you said 2 lines before hth
< 1448003124 799298 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's "is defined as"
< 1448003137 196018 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448003181 712074 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1448003187 334387 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<=>
< 1448003203 907389 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What are you trying to help me with? xD
< 1448003255 721673 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed the subject hth
< 1448003259 786181 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the xnor
< 1448003279 162746 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :⇔
< 1448003296 351199 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a boolean proposition operator
< 1448003354 11020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still say triple horizontal line. Isn't that what Knuth uses these days? 
< 1448003384 734252 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just ↮ without the slash
< 1448003417 493226 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_biconditional has several options
< 1448003441 972912 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I believe I settled on ≚
< 1448003452 38791 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check out that page
< 1448003488 13232 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you settled on something my client cannot display
< 1448003502 595726 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it couldn't display the last i suggested either
< 1448003680 270770 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's the equal sign with an "or" sign above it; neoletters supports it.
< 1448003736 68304 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1448003794 962334 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PROBLEM with that is that it's confusing as it looks like an assignment operator
< 1448003820 63755 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I implement ⚢⚣⚤⚥⚦⚧⚨⚩ as operators, allow them to be included in names, or do something else with them? (xD)
< 1448004008 721878 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448004173 205207 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same goes for ♂♀, ☿♁♃♄♅♆♇, ♈♉♊♋♌♍♎♏♐♑♒♓, ♔♕♖♗♘♙/♚♛♜♝♞♟, ♠♡♢♣♤♥♦♧, and ⚭⚮⚯
< 1448004322 936499 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not ⚊ ⚋ / ⚌ ⚍ ⚎ ⚏ / ☰ ☱ ☲ ☳ ☴ ☵ ☶ ☷
< 1448004832 507804 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use the 
< 1448004832 768991 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊻⊼⊽ for logical operations XOR, NAND, and NOR, or should I switch to the arrow notation?
< 1448004847 567839 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll stick with these and reserve arrows for othere purposes
< 1448005303 951030 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm....
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< 1448008123 21880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45556&oldid=45455 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+77) 10/* Examples */
< 1448008366 129025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cellular automaton14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45557&oldid=30870 5* 03202.99.113.80 5* (+11) 10/* Relation to esoteric programming */
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< 1448008933 88145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45558 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+3993) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Purple |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:Quintopia]] |year=[[:Category:2015|2015]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] |refimpl=Se..."
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< 1448009174 131361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BitShift14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45559&oldid=45549 5* 03Bas 5* (-5) 10
< 1448009375 664289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45560&oldid=45558 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-8) 10bleh
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< 1448012425 807508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45561&oldid=45556 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+5) 10/* Examples */
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< 1448012512 125735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45563&oldid=45562 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+4) 10/* Examples */
< 1448012698 940129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45564&oldid=45560 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+9) 10/* Examples */
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< 1448014367 250059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45565&oldid=45232 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+224) 10
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< 1448014670 279646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45568&oldid=45567 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+16) 10/* U */
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< 1448015635 618973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Quintopia14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45569&oldid=42578 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+214) 10
< 1448015717 734076 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1448015719 589798 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I just answered a haskell question on stackexchange
< 1448015724 310150 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the hatred begin :)
< 1448016075 872552 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/xZCenjhm <- but technically that's how you could implement "inheritance" of some sorts
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< 1448020516 109046 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1448020516 296692 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1448020551 837742 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. is it possible to specialcase lambdabot for loud massages please?
< 1448020624 937574 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sausages
< 1448020625 86131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
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< 1448023871 117431 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many people are bilingual in two sign languages
< 1448024347 503908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bilingual to at least what level of knowledge?
< 1448024365 235834 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least conversational
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< 1448030952 985960 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best data structure in Haskell for writing interpreters on a sequence of instructions where you need to do forwards and backwards jumps?
< 1448030965 80151 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Map? HashTable? Array?
< 1448030990 483226 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't parse it neatly like Brainfuck data BF = Loop [BF] | Increment 
< 1448030996 903846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, someone's going to mention lens aren't they
< 1448031011 408399 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Taneb is online so
< 1448031015 741813 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What
< 1448031016 440332 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the chance of that happening, yes.
< 1448031016 588965 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am
< 1448031036 143372 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1448031041 972142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'd use vector
< 1448031101 106526 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a skiplist, maybe???
< 1448031138 68697 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just precompute the target address for each jump hth
< 1448031212 78990 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :skiplists in haskell?
< 1448031217 858396 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that even work?
< 1448031265 332101 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait!
< 1448031272 607196 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh derp.
< 1448031283 843415 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was scrolled up.
< 1448031300 473612 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess I can't precompute every jump anyway
< 1448031400 830967 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Wait wait for bags you must use ⟅⟆ as brackets. {LEFT,RIGHT} S-SHAPED BAG DELIMITER
< 1448031401 16728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448031514 803165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that unicode character name is irrefutable
< 1448031736 650260 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :More importantly those look awesomely bag-like.
< 1448031809 481223 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :💰💰💰
< 1448031862 921019 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much, yeah.
< 1448031878 319135 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟅$⟆
< 1448031902 9288 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combining bag characters
< 1448031902 235400 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can do indentation based thingies in parsec
< 1448031908 71077 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be possible
< 1448031917 580821 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, delimiters as combining characters
< 1448031932 603253 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448031937 181093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you just need a COMBINING BOTTOM OF BAG to place below the $?
< 1448031976 383441 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think it’s troublesome. There’s been a paper about indentation sensitive parsing, but I don’t remember if there’s a lib based on it.
< 1448032052 626169 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟅$̲⟆
< 1448032297 207481 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can, of course, implement any computable grammar next to parsec.
< 1448032424 223499 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: what about a language where combining characters are operators
< 1448032451 663223 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The zalgo programming language
< 1448032502 181736 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gives a new meaning to code density...)
< 1448032506 534295 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/indents-0.3.3/docs/Text-Parsec-Indent.html
< 1448033178 601111 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw fuck
< 1448033179 472522 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1448033182 432957 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use lots of tries
< 1448033183 130538 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1448033258 699712 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't soom to work either
< 1448033394 821930 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that if you expect 6 spaces to be there
< 1448033404 465276 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are only three there (which means block end)
< 1448033411 247214 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then parsec will still expect those 3 additional spaces
< 1448033496 42216 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/indents-0.3.3/docs/Text-Parsec-Indent.html
< 1448033498 258230 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there is this
< 1448033536 843765 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could embrace it instead.
< 1448033654 251052 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not begin ... end
< 1448033655 642684 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or
< 1448033658 114917 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :begin ... nigeb
< 1448033683 444405 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedure ... while ... elihw .. erudecorp
< 1448033691 517061 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448033694 299177 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man that'd be annoying
< 1448033717 387273 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach x in y do ... hcaerof
< 1448033756 624214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm vaguely sure I've seen "erudecorp" in that context before (presumably as a joke)
< 1448033773 71706 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are plenty of rude corporations in the see
< 1448033775 95956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vaguely sure = a little less sure than "pretty sure")
< 1448033816 387459 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn erudecorp is the shortform of e-rude corporation. The term is used for corporations that are electronically rude.
< 1448033819 962243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'erudecorp': erudecorp is the shortform of e-rude corporation. The term is used for corporations that are electronically rude.
< 1448033859 844184 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One using german swear speech would be fun
< 1448033882 917588 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fürjedes x in y friss das ... du sack
< 1448033911 196765 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :versuche x menno .... so'n müll
< 1448033927 164148 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric := try: x except: ....
< 1448034125 50846 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :öffentlich statisch hauptmethode(Schnur[] argumente) ist ganz i; solange(i < 10) mach print(i) aber schnell gecheckt?
< 1448034209 181784 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reconstructs a code snippet by hand from a Twitter image, thus learning why he should use version control even for small projects.

< 1448034456 278648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1448034496 41198 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/858XP1XQ
< 1448034508 776085 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.146 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448034515 155937 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.146 QUIT :Changing host
< 1448034515 304577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448034716 258907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45571&oldid=44809 5* 03160.85.232.226 5* (+413) 10lolcode in german.
< 1448035296 902735 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Now add that modifiers have to be properly inflected for what they go on.
< 1448035338 193315 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, “Schnur”, really? <ω<
< 1448035402 44506 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1448035404 25671 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1448035407 641869 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schnur
< 1448035416 279608 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double -> doppelt
< 1448035422 625360 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :float -> schwimm
< 1448035440 166528 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :>ω<
< 1448035622 823024 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Zeichenkette”, “Gleitkommazahl” (“doppeltgenaue” or “einfachgenaue”).
< 1448035640 739435 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Niemals
< 1448035644 772089 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Das wäre ja nicht Lustig.
< 1448035670 129189 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRANKENHAUSKIOSKVERKAEUFERIN
< 1448035675 500533 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ich weiß, ich konnte das nur einfach nicht so stehenlassen.
< 1448035719 634577 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bool -> buhl
< 1448035737 356346 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwischengesicht Vergleichbar
< 1448035772 568884 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusing: “chain” and “Kette” are cognate, but not Germanic; they’re from Latin “catena”, but in the English case of course it got filtered through Old French first.
< 1448035843 47487 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(“Schnittstelle”)
< 1448036061 387941 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1448036582 680517 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chain in Polish is łańcuch
< 1448036584 891445 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not cognate
< 1448036863 566894 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448036890 375403 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: of course. the Mormann warriors have learnt that word from the Roman soldiers who took their lived ones away as slaves chained up
< 1448038079 760745 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448038186 902674 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :schwimm. oh my god
< 1448039088 949856 :Guest23593!~simpleirc@83.149.37.142 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448039577 777705 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448040309 347825 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ach du liebe Güte.
< 1448040362 301354 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will also be a swiss german dialect of it
< 1448040371 389997 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1448040408 917947 :Guest23593!~simpleirc@83.149.37.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448041411 909086 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1448042028 743686 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: to float = schwimmen
< 1448042036 952768 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :float imperative => schwimm
< 1448042039 316424 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know!
< 1448042042 995682 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just funny
< 1448042046 996960 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an imperative language after all!
< 1448042050 103968 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1448042097 945630 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depends … sometimes you want “schweben” instead.
< 1448042827 545446 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching "Best of Donald Trump"
< 1448042842 513159 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes a nice sitcom
< 1448043018 106934 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1448043024 58083 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wrestling video with donald trump
< 1448043027 937112 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for real?
< 1448043068 152604 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is this
< 1448043164 734664 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(real for wrestling purposes)
< 1448043763 944599 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egsxxcfxumweezuq JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448044154 829286 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1448045363 674960 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1448045698 510475 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448046490 369227 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448046816 938433 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a good name for a heavily symbolic (as in, gets-its-syntax-from-"Misc. Symbols"-symbolic) language. I'm currently calling it "Langdon"
< 1448046971 259392 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Apollo? I might roll it in with Kastor in a way
< 1448047041 205281 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better, I could just roll my ideas for it into UniFunge and name UniFunge apollo.
< 1448047044 442224 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll do that
< 1448047107 707917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Hppavilion1 5*  10moved [[02User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge10]] to [[Apollo]]: Came up with a good name for the language
< 1448047159 640716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Apollo14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45574&oldid=45572 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-7) 10Fixed names for new page
< 1448047273 711829 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think I've changed my mind xD
< 1448047320 224972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Apollo14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45575&oldid=45574 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+8) 10Undo revision 45572 by [[Special:Contributions/Hppavilion1|Hppavilion1]] ([[User talk:Hppavilion1|talk]])
< 1448047345 739781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Hppavilion1 5*  10moved [[02Apollo10]] to [[User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge]] over redirect: Changed mind. Sorry.
< 1448047381 448677 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... on to lunch.
< 1448047664 780532 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448047747 737075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448047749 170403 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use ≪ and ≫ instead of << and >> for bitshifts in Kastor?
< 1448047777 936428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl6 uses « and » as quote marks, that can be typed as << and >>
< 1448047781 902913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what it uses for shifts
< 1448047785 294453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing Perl, probably also << and >>
< 1448047796 731061 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably
< 1448048160 379696 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for delimiting strings?
< 1448048201 867897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so in Perl6, < and > are literal list constructors that interpret everything between them raw and split on spaces
< 1448048211 859043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e.  = ('foo', 'bar', 'baz')
< 1448048216 79781 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay
< 1448048219 913532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :« and » are like that, but interpolate
< 1448048226 228518 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1448048240 81011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«foo $x baz» = ("foo", "$x", "baz") = ("foo", $x, "baz")
< 1448048257 417550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, ("foo", ~$x, "baz"), $x gets stringified
< 1448048717 742485 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448048908 678806 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448048931 377533 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: Did you see my message?
< 1448048944 167620 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Yes. I might change it to that.
< 1448048948 606871 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I like the existing ones too
< 1448048955 482424 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nm lambdabot now alerted me to your answer.
< 1448048985 905471 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if I use the white brackets, then I can logically have both bags and ordered bags
< 1448048998 570994 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448049035 387944 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those … hmm … lists with a fast count operation?
< 1448049064 552548 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: They're basically just ordered lists, at least that's one way to implement them
< 1448049095 65568 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, they're lists that store the number of times a value occurs in them. And you can't have a value occur at multiple indexes, unless I decide you can.
< 1448049113 428035 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh?
< 1448049128 632449 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can’t have one at multiple indices, how can you have any more than one?
< 1448049150 609489 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: In literals you can have them at multiple indices, but they get consolidated into a single bag basically
< 1448049179 104462 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll let my language have operators in prefix, postfix, infix, circumfix, precircumfix, postcircumfix, and incircumfix, just to one-up perl.
< 1448049197 174113 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ω<
< 1448049235 452852 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda already has fully general mixfix, which merely has all those as special cases.
< 1448049269 439171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does incircumfix even make sens?
< 1448049280 793551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sense
< 1448049287 630932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what would it look like?)
< 1448049298 863590 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :_⟨_⟩_
< 1448049300 690954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess along the lines of a[b]c but that's just a ternary
< 1448049302 536149 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume.
< 1448049310 695221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no reason the brackets have to match)
< 1448049316 106865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_?_:_ is topologically the same
< 1448049317 757206 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a[b]c is an example of an incircumfix operator, but not necessarily one that will be used
< 1448049325 313298 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you typed the exact same thing before me xD
< 1448049354 877586 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in Agda I’ve seen _[_]=_ for replaceAt in a vector.
< 1448049361 549542 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, that's an example of incircumfix; it is as a matter of fact ternary. I might not have any builtin though
< 1448049395 60190 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will also be associativities if I can figure it out, also taken from perl: right, left, chain, list, and whatever the other one perl has is
< 1448049400 598236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I meant that the "circum" is suspect because there's no reason why the brackets would match
< 1448049433 122753 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, for the ordered bags, if you enter one where the same value appears at multiple indices, where is the value going to be in the resulting orderedbag?
< 1448049448 55915 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: The first occurence. Duh.
< 1448049484 57726 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree, not duh. How would I know you wouldn’t use the last occurrence?
< 1448049513 836259 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can ALSO declare associativity groups- for example, a>b>c is be equal to (a>b)&(b>c)
< 1448049531 739306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: OCaml has maps with multiple bindings
< 1448049535 484947 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Trial and error, or reading the fucking manual. Either one works.
< 1448049544 673263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where newer bindings shadow old ones, but don't remove them (you can delete the newer binding and see the older binding again)
< 1448049555 113699 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, asking you just now, that’s how I know. I just disagree that it’s duh.
< 1448049556 27890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, this is its default sort of map
< 1448049557 915031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason
< 1448049566 269280 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that Kastor currently has 14 builtin data structures xD
< 1448049631 381489 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :let infixl 6 <=?
< 1448049631 568686 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :defined
< 1448049667 852970 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, derp, that won’t work.
< 1448049671 204592 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :unlet
< 1448049671 353211 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined .
< 1448049687 327887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/UniFunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45578&oldid=45576 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+814) 10/* Δ Commands */ Astrological symbols
< 1448049767 775334 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case anyone wants to see the WIP documentation for Kastor, it's here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByRvNdqqy3GPV1NfZmRwOFNxQ28&usp=sharing
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< 1448050623 844054 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org NICK :hppavilion[1]
< 1448050807 191808 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello
< 1448050839 518980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi b_jonas
< 1448050885 532184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you seen this Amycus esolanguage I mentioned a last time? 
< 1448050890 811621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out to be quite interesting,
< 1448050904 504132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've only written some of the intersting stuff about it so far, I'll have to document the rest
< 1448050920 799566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I looked at it when reviewing Esolang edits
< 1448050944 24534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it seems that's partly by accident, because I misread _one_ character in the spec, and didn't read the interpreter carefully enough to notice that it doesn't match
< 1448050951 691946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter matches the intended spec
< 1448050970 324162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I went by my copy of the spec, which had an error compared to David's spec
< 1448050970 651060 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448050986 452354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now we have twice as many languages
< 1448051007 12299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, that one character matters a lot, because esolang
< 1448051332 212405 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an interesting read http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/lsof/lsof-8/lsof/00PORTING
< 1448051462 742946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, lsof reads /dev/kmem on most platforms?
< 1448051551 944554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: on BSD, probably
< 1448051561 283984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on linux, I think it reads /proc
< 1448051571 22725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "most platforms" I mean "all Unices but Linux"
< 1448051578 407984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but so does ps
< 1448051583 472344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1448051592 81269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it differs on some modern ones
< 1448051597 151934 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, modern bsds
< 1448051612 259868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading /dev/kmem is the traditional way
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< 1448052880 687543 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I make ¹²³ be postfix operators that power (for niceness), or should they be permitted to be at the end of names so you can have, for example, w¹?
< 1448053045 21260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both!
< 1448053086 667986 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's not possible, even for a language like perl.
< 1448053088 543872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheh
< 1448053092 533327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it is
< 1448053109 720343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, you could allow the subscripts to be part of the identifier only if the identifier had been declared
< 1448053114 14995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and otherwise have them as operators
< 1448053116 183909 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it would be an esolang, but still
< 1448053143 791227 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No, not even perl could do it; if we did both (and didn't allow other syntactic fixes) x³ as in x**3 would be ambiguous relative to x³ the name
< 1448053149 985005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like in Perl, if you declare a function then foo (with no punctuation around it) is a function call, otherwise it's a string literal
< 1448053179 243955 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1448053179 875620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the actual official reason behind this feature is that it makes it easier to write Perl/poetry polyglots
< 1448053189 591507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where "poetry" is the literature/artistic concept, not an esolang)
< 1448053189 961235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1448053200 195961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also builtins, but yes
< 1448053212 561265 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egsxxcfxumweezuq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1448053213 22518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo isn't a builtin, I picked a concrete example for a reason :-)
< 1448053249 623919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448053305 652056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some things that are builtins are surprising
< 1448053310 180573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Perl 6's ... operator
< 1448053319 919358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is either an eager or lazy exception, I forget which
< 1448053324 770434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(intended use: sub foo { ... } )
< 1448053329 174535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for a function you haven't written yet)
< 1448053528 328093 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's a recent addition
< 1448053565 298752 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wait, really? Wow.
< 1448053768 271336 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: So is there a nice-looking way to represent augmented assignment with <- assignment?
< 1448053838 280010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you mean like var +← val;
< 1448053848 993425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to increase var by val
< 1448053868 976940 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, but that looks a bit bad
< 1448053875 271733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it?
< 1448053880 928051 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better looking version
< 1448053882 695790 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does to me
< 1448053910 873161 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I think K uses : for assignment, and var +: val for compound assignment iirc
< 1448054021 54395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there are apls that use +←
< 1448054076 529762 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: : might actually work... Especially because it's used in Dicts.
< 1448054143 295830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or, if you have no prefix operators, only postfix and infix, then ←+ could work too
< 1448054180 811869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also maybe .+← or ←.+
< 1448054197 128411 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where . stands for a method call such that .+ would do addition
< 1448054215 362895 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I do have prefix, unfortunately. I think I might use :.
< 1448054227 607800 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-etrmpxvnkwypxlba QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1448054317 736185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or even ←;+ if ; is your method cascade marker?
< 1448054334 571592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as that doesn't clash with other syntax of course
< 1448054592 939508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the way Ursala does operator fixity?
< 1448054604 674443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no
< 1448054607 84013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whitespace around an operator determines whether it's infix, postfix, prefix, or unary
< 1448054609 952870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, nullary
< 1448054614 619700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than unary)
< 1448054627 221230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah... ruby sometimes does that, and even perl does sometimes, in ambiguous situations
< 1448054630 767088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the four versions can have entirely unrelated meanings (although more commonly are various currying)
< 1448054631 527450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate that
< 1448054638 407360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, operator precedence isn't transitive
< 1448054666 39871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has especially complicated rules where there's like three sets of nested exceptions so that it dwims on a negative number powered to something
< 1448054671 397207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's been known for ages that you can parse grammars unambiguously even if operator precedence isn't transitive; however, mostly this was viewed as a quirk of the parsing algorithms rather than an actually useful feature)
< 1448054733 814997 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the mixfix paper explained how to do nontransitive precedence with it …
< 1448054774 179851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer a solution where the arity of the operator is unambiguous anyway, because the syntax is like that
< 1448054818 335837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: have you seen Ursala at all
< 1448054819 283953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I wanted to ask a question from you about parsers too, but it's too late so some other time
< 1448054823 812375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, you should at least look at some examples
< 1448054825 571883 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I haven't seen ursala
< 1448054833 879874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at it at all
< 1448054838 710767 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Unambiguous at use site or only when including definition site?
< 1448054842 527522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me later to look at it then
< 1448054861 477519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortuately the website seems to be down
< 1448054864 615546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: depends
< 1448054877 386082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it basically reads as an esolang that's trying to market it as a non-esolang, and has a library collection competitive with Funge-98 but in different fields
< 1448054897 317444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh
< 1448054921 590224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to be relevant: http://www.bcs.org/category/10379
< 1448055001 723142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the site was http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala and is in the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/20080329070617/http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/  so you could look at it that way
< 1448055044 902087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lessons learned from an unusual language" is the title of the seminar about it
< 1448055094 672150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's inspired by "Squiggol" which I've never heard of
< 1448055192 155220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this is a really good presentation for learning about what the language is like
< 1448055267 734446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's fun to compare Ursala to Underlambda because they have several similar design goals and end up similar for that reason
< 1448055290 862296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although they're very different in some other respects, because of Underlambda's big defining property that it should be easy to write in and also easy to compile into very low-powered languages)
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< 1448056731 7187 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can functional powers be done with non-natural exponents?
< 1448056777 559059 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if f(x)=x+1, that means f**2(x)=f(f(x))=(x+1)+1=x+2
< 1448056827 186610 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does f**0.5 mean? And while we're at it, f**-1, f**i and f**(1+i)
< 1448056847 891314 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, I suppose, f**0, though I suspect that that f**0(x)=1)
< 1448056895 784328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f**0(x)=x
< 1448056898 288011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f^0(x)=x
< 1448056904 701591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f**-1(x) is the inverse of f, which might or might not exist
< 1448056909 771594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on what f does
< 1448056914 560716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and might be non-unique in some cases)
< 1448056965 475615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean to say the inverse isn't unique?
< 1448056976 198078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That it's just a left inverse or right inverse?
< 1448057003 43423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, those only work on binary operators
< 1448057019 717331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a unary function (i.e. one argument) doesn't have a "left inverse" and "right inverse"
< 1448057024 758790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1448057027 714765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_function#Left_and_right_inverses
< 1448057042 780314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you prefer section/retraction?
< 1448057043 544360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it does have a preinverse and postinverse though
< 1448057057 863469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I'm thinking of is, say, f(x) = floor(x/2) (for integral x)
< 1448057076 46101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is inverted by f**-1(x) = x*2, but it's also inverted by f**-1(x) = (x*2)+1
< 1448057108 30379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so you mean right inverse.
< 1448057115 64944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where f is surjective but not injective.
< 1448057143 995166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get confused because there are so many different ways to formalize what a function is
< 1448057156 964712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"every surjective function has a right inverse" is equivalent to the axiom of choice, which is kind of obvious when you see it but still neat.
< 1448057159 98128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're composing them then they obviously have left and right inverses
< 1448057169 133219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you'd prefer "split epimorphism"?
< 1448057172 419621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm tired
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< 1448057183 651126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also trying to explain things in terms of category theory will just make things worse
< 1448057206 230289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually agree that "left inverse" and "right inverse" is confusing terminology, it's just what I've heard.
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< 1448057246 256498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about "right inverse" with respect to the binary operation of function composition, I think.
< 1448057319 284833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1448057325 195954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are clearly composition-based definitions
< 1448057341 965807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think about functions in terms of application rather than composition, there's no left and right, just inside and outside
< 1448057354 351534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used the composition-based version of all this in my thesis, but I wasn't happy about it)
< 1448057359 363093 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, f**0 is hte identity
< 1448057501 982060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can see this very clearly in Underload
< 1448057506 475604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard definition of 0 is !()
< 1448057525 915695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which literally means "discard the argument, and replace it with the identity"
< 1448057619 288695 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think generalizing functional powers to non-integers make much sense, but if you do figure something out I'm curious to hear about it
< 1448057622 221265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1448057680 30626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 1/(1-x) is the cube root of the identity :-)
< 1448057793 11378 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'd say that to generalize it to integers is simple: f**x where x<0 is equivalent to iterating f**-1 |x| times.
< 1448057805 278883 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1448057806 316015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For integer x?
< 1448057834 740768 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: For any real number, really. But only the integers for now, because we haven't defined it for reals yet.
< 1448057871 182922 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, function square root is a thing: g**1/2=f such that f(f(x))=g(x)
< 1448057873 650253 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raising a function to 0 or 1 is a somewhat common idiom for applying a function conditionally in J (and maybe APL, dunno)
< 1448057893 619113 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0 and 1 also double as boolean values)
< 1448057921 450350 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we can clearly generalize that to any arbitrary real number of the form 1/n where n is an item of R
< 1448057949 777513 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :g**1/n=f such that f**n(x) = g(x)
< 1448058053 936969 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, since any number x to the power of a rational of the form n/d (x**(n/d)) is equivalent to d√(x**n)
< 1448058125 151728 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in analogue to that, for a function g to the power of a real number n/d which is equivalent to f, f is a function such that f**n(f**n...(x))...)=g(x)
< 1448058173 987384 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, if n/d is negative, it's quite simple: the above expression where n is negated.
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< 1448058506 839007 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for S**(-2/3)=f, f is equal to, I believe, S**-2(S**-2(S**-2(x))), where S**-2=(S**-1)**2, which means S**-1(S**-1(S**-1(S**-1(S**-1(S**-1(x))))))=P(P(P(P(P(P(x)))))) where P is the predecessor function (I assume S**-1=P), so S**(-2/3)(x)=x-6. Boom.
< 1448058529 560991 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, we have to define f**i(x) if we want to generalize to the complexes.
< 1448058628 582589 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skipping that for now, since x**n*x**m=x**(n+m), and defining composition as function multiplication because that seems to make sense, we can deduce that f**(a+bi)(x) = f**a(f**bi(x))
< 1448058665 667106 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or function multiplication can just be defined such that f*g(x)=f(x)*g(x), but that's not as fun
< 1448058682 440037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: So really, all we need do is define f**i(x) and we're home free.
< 1448058818 376308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Have any ideas?
< 1448058840 565985 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, no clue what imaginary powers would be
< 1448058853 856689 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rationals is enough for m
< 1448058855 562729 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :me*
< 1448058867 270665 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: What's x**i equal to when x is a real?
< 1448058869 852198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f^i(f^i(x)) = f^-1(x), presumably
< 1448058877 274529 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: BLASPHEMY! WE CAN NEVER BE SATISFIED!
< 1448058946 292664 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But if we assume that composition is multiplication of functions, that poses a problem. x**n*x**m=x**(n+m), so that means that f**i(f**i(x))=f**2i(x)
< 1448058983 284453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, of course.
< 1448059013 90077 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Also, I techncially covered the reals. You just have to round off the naturals, which is kind of how exponentation works anyway AFAICT
< 1448059035 196198 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we should define S(f)
< 1448059050 964293 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :“A systematic procedure to produce arbitrary functional n-roots (including, beyond n= ½, continuous, negative, and infinitesimal n) relies on the solutions of Schröder's equation.[3][4] [5]”
< 1448059061 767789 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to read those (from the article on functional square root)
< 1448059078 969967 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the first one is from 1870
< 1448059082 190770 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: My system is either better or equivalent.
< 1448059392 216200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what if function multiplication is giving a function its arguments? At least, for the type func*tuple
< 1448059992 598938 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think the cube (or indeed, square or generally nth) root of the identity is the identity, as I(I...I(x)...)=I(x).
< 1448060013 674093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: try calculating the third power of 1/(1-x) :-)
< 1448060028 206889 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course.
< 1448060033 130131 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspected that.
< 1448060054 259245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least I think that's what it is)
< 1448060059 499893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my favourite random mathematical facts
< 1448060060 799516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so 1/(1-x) is a convenient way to obtain EXACTLY the cube root of a number? Wait, that doesn't seem right...
< 1448060116 224433 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, any two rationals fed to division is a rational, and - is closed over the rationals, but there are rationals such that root(x, 3)(/-R
< 1448060158 287766 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the cube root of I(x) can't be 1/(1-x), at least not exactly. Thus, it'd be more accurate to say that the cube root of identity is just I.
< 1448060162 86693 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Math!)
< 1448060249 143996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, idgi
< 1448060253 969526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :((1-x)^-1)^3 = (1-x)^(-3)
< 1448060315 250495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, not the third power of the result
< 1448060316 999352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third power of the function
< 1448060333 925730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was meant to be a function, not an expression.
< 1448060350 444210 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448060362 435601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = 1/(1-x) in f (f (f x))
< 1448060364 7050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 / (1 - 1 / (1 - 1 / (1 - x)))
< 1448060370 300974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an example, start with 5; after running the function once we get 1/-4 which is -¼; after running it twice we get 1/(5/4) which is 4/5; and after running it three times we get 1/(1/5) which is 5
< 1448060537 787107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it collapses to x
< 1448060540 69167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So the algebraic data type L(a) = 1 + a*L(a)
< 1448060545 217104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So L(a) = 1/(1-a)
< 1448060553 357503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So [[[a]]] = a?
< 1448060566 256864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't seem right.
< 1448060611 517401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I understand
< 1448060637 455207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People talk about this thing where you represent the algebraic data type of lists as L(x) = 1/(1-x)
< 1448060652 599100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you do a bunch of algebraic mafipulation and somehow it works out in the end.
< 1448060662 122125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. when you take the derivative or that sort of thing.
< 1448060664 266314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you expand it to a power series
< 1448060679 125011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can expand it to a power series, 1 + x + x^2 + ...
< 1448060686 389071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the obvious representation of lists.
< 1448060715 98384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ais523 is saying that L^3 = I, so I'm wondering if that can be made to work here somehow.
< 1448060763 78387 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I have an issue. I have two functions for the short article I'm writing on this, S and D. S(x)=x+1 and D(x)=2x. I also have the auxilliary functions sS(x)=x+0.5 and sD which are to be used to demonstrate square roots of functions. What I'm trying to find is what sD(x) is equal to; currently it's sqrt(2*x), but that doesn't seem right because sqrt(xy)=sqrt(x)*sqrt(y) and thus it seems wrong. I think. Actually, it's 
< 1448060763 242414 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :beginning to seem more right. Not sure
< 1448060794 58207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(2)*x?
< 1448060815 770113 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Tried that, but sqrt(2)*x seems to equal 2(x**2)
< 1448060841 63266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1448060856 950921 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean (sqrt(2)*x)**2
< 1448060905 937282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = sqrt 2 * x in f (f x)
< 1448060907 784304 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : sqrt 2 * (sqrt 2 * x)
< 1448060922 759236 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :hin
< 1448060941 321618 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sqrt(x)*sqrt(y))**2=sqrt(x)*sqrt(x)+sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)+sqrt(y)*sqrt(x)+sqrt(y)*sqrt(y)=x+sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)+sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)+y=xy+sqrt(xy)+sqrt(xy)=xy+2(sqrt(xy))
< 1448060945 391239 :hin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1448060974 612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you're getting at now.
< 1448061000 98187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying that sD(x) = sqrt(2) * x, so that sD(sD(x)) = sqrt(2) * sqrt(2) * x = 2*x
< 1448061046 843771 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to read, yes, but the gist is that    sqrt(xy)**2    is equal to    (sqrt(x)*sqrt(y))**2    is equal to    xy+2(sqrt(xy))
< 1448061050 470477 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1448061093 150343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, it's not.
< 1448061101 1529 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right
< 1448061109 819859 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing the wrong math
< 1448061135 154632 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing (sqrt(x)+sqrt(y)**2 instead of (sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)**2
< 1448061137 876996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway you can make some sort of relationship between S^n and D^n using log2, probably.
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< 1448061217 77179 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess sqrt(2)*x it is. Really hope that math is right xD
< 1448061229 653641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't difficult to verify.
< 1448061235 905836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot less work than what you were doing there.
< 1448061266 398219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does "geometric" mean "with multiplication"?
< 1448061316 878611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did I say geometric at some point?
< 1448061326 629728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I just did.
< 1448061354 884334 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, because scaling is very natural in geometry i guess
< 1448061486 48148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1448061512 109818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, no answer from ais523. Maybe I should ask in #haskell or something.
< 1448061519 61654 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think I've found a problem with composition being function multiplication. Consider f(x)=x+1 and g(x)=2x. If composition is function multiplication, (f∘g)(x)=2x+1, so (f∘g)(3)=7, but (g∘f)(x)=2(x+1), so (g∘f)(3)=8. Therefor ∘ is noncommutative
< 1448061527 394621 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, matrix multiplication isn't commutative either
< 1448061529 488951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem solved.
< 1448061540 295895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrix multiplication is function composition.
< 1448061543 925254 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And neither is quaternion)
< 1448061548 736005 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How so?
< 1448061561 166217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A matrix represents a linear function.
< 1448061569 284830 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a matrix secretly a function? By that logic, couldn't any value be considered a function?
< 1448061569 704548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrix multiplication represents composition of linear functions.
< 1448061573 477390 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448061580 195902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so secret in the case of the matrix.
< 1448061621 95846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaternion multiplication is also function composition
< 1448061624 827248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a trick like the what's-it-called representation.
< 1448061643 583791 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXT ARGUMENT:
< 1448061651 581375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you tell CUPS to display what it will do to print the given input (what filters and so on are used, etc) but not send to printer? Also how can you tell CUPS to print to file?
< 1448061652 792726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i mean every group can be realised as function composition
< 1448061655 116444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean NEXT GENERALIZATION:
< 1448061661 958539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud
< 1448061662 107212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 4d 2h 4m 58s ago: Found an article on how type systems are logics: https://codewords.recurse.com/issues/one/type-systems-and-logic
< 1448061663 174494 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :g**-1(x, y)
< 1448061668 905581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cayley, that's it. Presumably what Phantom_Hoover is talking about.
< 1448061682 491992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cayley's theorem, yes
< 1448061698 714020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you can do it for monoids, not just groups.
< 1448061707 904121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need for inverses.
< 1448061812 346056 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor for units. nor for associativity...
< 1448061834 457146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do rings though!
< 1448061835 846821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, monoids are the natural place to do it.
< 1448061880 864602 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how does g**-1 work when g takes multiple arguments? I suppose it could be that if g takes multipile arguments and returns an argument of type t, g**-1 could accept a single argument (of type t) and return a tuple of the arguments g would take to yield that
< 1448061907 834808 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a set of the tuples
< 1448061920 784427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions only take one argument.
< 1448061953 247420 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, if g(1, 2) = 3 and g(4, 5)=3, then g**-1(3) = {(1, 2), (4, 5)}
< 1448061958 909637 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh right. Curring.
< 1448061965 580878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to cur.
< 1448061998 161363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just have a function from a product.
< 1448062022 875688 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Godel numbering or the like?
< 1448062029 878069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just a pair.
< 1448062049 98853 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You mean a function that just accepts an n-tuple?
< 1448062053 134310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1448062055 335274 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448062071 815078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, do the Foglios wa
< 1448062079 375180 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You /could/ do that, OR you could do it the fun way and just interpret them as having multiple arugments
< 1448062106 650873 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... want to kill us with the suspense of an impending wasp attack in Paris?
< 1448062224 354831 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :_exit
< 1448062233 266917 :_exit!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1448062393 530016 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sortix
< 1448062398 693382 :sortix!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1448062411 720619 :shikhin!~shikhin@lambdaos.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448062414 554403 :shikhin!~shikhin@lambdaos.org QUIT :Changing host
< 1448062414 703065 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448062969 28894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how to override the MIME type of the input with CUPS?
< 1448063029 495423 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use Roman Numerals or Arabic Numerals as the page numbering for a LaTeX document I'm working on?
< 1448063065 12554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go with arabic
< 1448063106 593240 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm practicing my LaTeX (and making myself seem smarter) by making a little mathematics PDF on Function Arithmetic.
< 1448063131 798864 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll call functions "Functia" for the entire article because why the hell not?
< 1448063229 935441 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should catch up with GG
< 1448063252 855891 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was fun to read until I got up to speed with the comic.. then I kind-of forgot about it
< 1448063477 262842 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the Esoteric Language Council approves of this usage of "functia".
< 1448063498 936169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Excellent.
< 1448063504 913608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, we have a council?
< 1448063692 263629 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Esoteric Language Council's position on this question is that yes, we do.
< 1448063739 304878 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name again for functions that have conditions in them? That is, functions with "if x=2" and the like.
< 1448063776 612100 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to use it in my Arithmetic of the Functia, but then I realized hyperoperations for demonstration of basic functions is a bad idea
< 1448063782 813580 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm still curious
< 1448063816 347536 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where are you?
< 1448063826 852132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own computer does not have the "--list-filters" option of "cupsfilter" program
< 1448063840 230023 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: piecewise.
< 1448063845 702547 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go!
< 1448063898 637923 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a good, simple, 2-argument function for my Arithmetic of Functia. A(x, y)=x+y is already used. I don't just want to do M(x, y)=xy. Anyone have any good ideas? Perhaps a famous but simple function?
< 1448063938 333730 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One that I can evaluate for two naturals (including 0) <= 4 in my head while writing the document? xD
< 1448063962 557828 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It need not be piecewise, but that'd add some nice variety
< 1448063991 497333 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And noone suggest Ackermann. Just no. I don't think it's even /possible/ to do that in one's head.)
< 1448064156 668835 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Have any suggestions?
< 1448064164 766629 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x + y?
< 1448064169 66882 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. Why not.
< 1448064180 964323 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I name it?
< 1448064183 154794 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, and don't forget:
< 1448064185 230192 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :max(x,y)
< 1448064188 278180 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes
< 1448064202 93818 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it the... twexply function!
< 1448064226 240757 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: TPY function. T(x, y) for short.
< 1448064294 947142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What does max return if x=y?
< 1448064305 102848 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x, or, equivalently, y.
< 1448064322 528663 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1448064385 782247 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if you want to throw a wrench in the monkey works, use the "chamfered max" function.
< 1448064400 888524 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If x > y, returns x. If y > x, returns y. If x = y, returns x+1, or, equivalently, y+1.
< 1448064443 105423 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also include sgn() for the variety
< 1448064557 566157 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Here's an idea for a variant of max(x, y) where "it just returns the value" is /not/ the logical output. far(x, y)
< 1448065022 952967 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what would that be?
< 1448065056 359316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does CUPS convert the PBM to PDF and then to PostScript and then to ZjStream format when printing my document rather than just converting it directly?
< 1448065109 921360 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Returns which is farther away from 0
< 1448065130 260344 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1448065149 624010 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, and the question is, what does it return if they have the same magnitude, opposite signs?
< 1448065182 826184 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Exactly. It's fairly simple if it's max(), but not if it's this.
< 1448065305 185449 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does f**-1(x) return if f has multiple values that equal x?
< 1448065608 801137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say that f^-1 only exists if f is a bijection.
< 1448065660 985871 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh. I would say it returns a set.
< 1448065671 639654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a different f^-1
< 1448065680 162275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for any surjection.
< 1448065804 496255 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I think I'll just stick with that one for mine.
< 1448065827 199739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it works for any function, not just surjections.
< 1448066032 471064 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~
< 1448066070 661270 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf where did [6~ come from
< 1448066156 76955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of misinterpreted "page down"s?
< 1448066215 424564 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird i don't know why irssi did that
< 1448066257 702702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sometimes does such things to me on laggy connections. Screen might play a role in that as well.
< 1448066408 803986 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final round of try-outs for my uni's University Challenge team is tomorrow...
< 1448066429 155609 :mathe0logic!~matick@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448066477 65108 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'd say there are two variants of the ^-1 operator.
< 1448066524 230255 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first variant returns a single value, and is only defined for functions that are one-to-one. f can't have multiple values that equal x; by definition, such a function would not be one-to-one.
< 1448066545 423589 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second variant is defined for all functions, and *always* returns a set, even if it happens that f only has one value that equals x.
< 1448066553 590734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "one-to-one" means injective, that's not enough.
< 1448066555 906532 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case it returns a set containing that one value.
< 1448066578 381020 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do mean injective, and I guess the ^-1 would have a restricted domain for a non-surjective function.
< 1448066578 562449 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only one who hates hates hates the ^-1 notation for function inversion?
< 1448066581 358963 :mathe0logic!~matick@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca QUIT :Client Quit
< 1448066594 211168 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the ASCII version of it, it's pretty dang bad.
< 1448066611 725012 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no even in typeset math I hate it
< 1448066705 246467 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of how sin^2 x means (sin(x))^2 and sin^-1 doesn't
< 1448066728 270293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin^2(x) should mean sin(sin(x))
< 1448066734 423839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one that's broken.
< 1448066920 999680 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of makes sense. actually maybe it's just the trig functions which break a lot of rules. i mean why is it it sin x but g(x)?
< 1448066966 525318 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn math profs too lazy to write a couple brackets
< 1448067124 55792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sin 2^2, (sin 2)^2)
< 1448067126 48205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.826821810431806,0.826821810431806)
< 1448067130 344770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [sin x, g x]
< 1448067132 108440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [sin x,g x]
< 1448067152 686129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sin^2) 2
< 1448067154 389158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.826821810431806
< 1448067186 561156 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh... I don't particularly like that num instance... why does lb have it?
< 1448067236 658233 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What form of the multiplication operator should I use?
< 1448067257 308537 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cross, dot, star, or juxtapositon?
< 1448067272 123967 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with the dot I think
< 1448067341 788024 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1448067343 93863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef
< 1448067343 236238 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1448067348 922188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sin^2) 2
< 1448067350 581579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     No instance for (Show a0)
< 1448067350 723810 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       arising from a use of ‘show_M708850256494014920331324’
< 1448067350 723919 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous
< 1448067485 890126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i imported it sttdnh
< 1448067634 116445 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is still occasionally amazed by how much crap lambdabot depends on

< 1448067759 159191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not sure what the "st" means there.
< 1448067787 481787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally i typed httdnh but that seemed a bit mean
< 1448067865 28322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in no mood for guessing

< 1448068042 386943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that
< 1448068123 802158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that that did not help?
< 1448068158 508230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now that I've typed it it looks reasonable
< 1448070248 467885 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
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< 1448070639 805043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1448070852 507630 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I need a symbol for the inverse of function composition. Do you know of one?
< 1448070897 372367 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Or perhaps you have an idea for me
< 1448071049 508977 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll use □ because it makes sense; circle for composition, square for disposition.
< 1448071644 907306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can decompose a composed function?
< 1448071716 612137 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No. I think.
< 1448071722 911486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like D(f(g(x)),g(x))=f(x)
< 1448071747 454805 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my system, function composition is equivalent to multiplication
< 1448071789 673054 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized something after thinking about function powers and about regular powers
< 1448071805 751430 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f^0=I (I is the identity function, which is the compositional identity)
< 1448071820 813915 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^0=1 (1 is the multiplicative identity)
< 1448071841 469082 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^-1=1/n (the identity divided by a number)
< 1448071872 963666 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I figured, f^-1 must equal I/f, or using the proper disposition operator, I □ f
< 1448071880 326402 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Comprende?
< 1448071914 338067 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How it works otherwise, I have no idea
< 1448072014 492827 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say you just divide x (where x is from I(x)) by the definition of the original function (with the one variable being x), but that forms a problem for pairs of functions with differing numbers of arguments, piecewise functions, and primitive functions
< 1448072099 200563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia?
< 1448072128 555180 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What you said might be right.
< 1448072312 476859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but compositon is not associative is it?
< 1448072323 607499 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is not.
< 1448072327 189642 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK
< 1448072339 841413 :Xe!xe@unaffiliated/xe QUIT :Quit: *.yolo *.swag
< 1448072340 491074 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ojcycdlrexqfakud QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!
< 1448072340 687557 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt make sense to call a nonassociative operation multiplication
< 1448072378 229742 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: There's Octonion multiplication, which isn't associative
< 1448072395 60139 :Xe`!~xe@unaffiliated/xe JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448072402 681685 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Xe`!
< 1448072410 218731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've always thought octonions were weird
< 1448072430 618819 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448072465 986459 :Xe`!~xe@unaffiliated/xe NICK :Xe
< 1448072478 966429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do octonions define a multiplicative inverse?
< 1448072491 358167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inverses
< 1448072513 557955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvi a noncommutatie op has two inverses
< 1448072557 654629 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh right. That
< 1448072587 722420 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there may be another inverse for it that I don't know about
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< 1448077221 884114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, function composition isn't associative?
< 1448077245 365722 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it is..
< 1448077620 852944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one of idea I have of Magic: the Gathering cards: "If your life total is exactly 666, you win the game."
< 1448077625 788070 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448077677 389490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like Felidar Sovereign would be easier in most cases.
< 1448077696 333527 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448077923 664084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although the one I had made up it costs only one mana and has split-second, but it is a sorcery and black and madness
< 1448078007 397586 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1448080389 484714 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: So my next step is to have functions to the powers of other functions xD. Either that or another arithmetic operation, involving a function as one argument and either a function or a general number as its other
< 1448080400 343483 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, maybe I should get arround to defining f**i
< 1448080637 57196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I get SIGILL signals in the _dl_fixup() function?
< 1448081129 659851 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1448081622 295536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think popen_noshell confuses gdb
< 1448081828 423519 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetic of the functia is going well, but I've encountered an issue for complex powers of functions. Here's what I have so far: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRvNdqqy3GPd3FxdmRrbnF5eE0/view
< 1448081843 88990 :andrew_!~andrew@116.30.110.181 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448081844 491390 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a PDF, zzo38, just hosted on Drive)
< 1448081864 709101 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.110.181 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448082220 808101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't load a PDF, just the login screen
< 1448082253 720704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i in {0..99};do for j in {0..90};do if ((i/10+i%10+j/10+j%10<19));then printf x;else printf \ ;fi done;echo;done
< 1448082262 573202 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ascii art
< 1448082324 650098 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, should have been for j in {0..99}
< 1448082369 993881 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh... How do I do a complex iterated function...
< 1448082407 692760 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a simple iterated function
< 1448082417 41232 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION solves all problems

< 1448082425 110023 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just need to know how I do f**i; I'd /prefer/ to just know how to do f**i so I cn figure it out myself)
< 1448082466 436070 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm making an Arithmetic of the Functia that supports function exponents and need to figure out how to generalize it to complex numbers xD
< 1448082556 83315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you need to mark such file as public?
< 1448082572 438080 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about what you're doing but one "standard" approach is to try to reduce your function to stuff that you can do with complex numbers
< 1448082694 214461 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you don't know how to compute exponentiation?  ok, e^x can be expressed as an infinite sum of x^k/k! with k from 0 to infinity
< 1448082705 874066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's use this to express e^ix
< 1448082755 319750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure if expressed is the right word)
< 1448082829 247088 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can try to find a complex valued function that happens to have the same values as your function on real numbers
< 1448082877 318438 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what are you doing
< 1448082889 457087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm discussing things like f**i(x), not f(x)**i or the like. It's similar to f**-1(x), but generalized to the complexes
< 1448082903 741861 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ** ?
< 1448082908 475089 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Power
< 1448082910 975701 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1448082914 220087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's python's exponentiation operator
< 1448082917 237705 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1448083026 683202 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But f^n has already been generalized to the integers and to reals of the form 1/n where n is an integer; I trivially extended it to any real number and am now trying to generalize it to the complexes
< 1448083036 344157 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably figure out imaginary powers first xD
< 1448083101 491167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem I thought of though is that . (composition) isn't commutative, and the complex power f^(a+bi) will surely be defined as f^a . f^(bi), and that's problematic as + has to be commutative I'm pretty sure
< 1448083166 825894 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldn't it be commutative?
< 1448083217 523736 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, keep in mind that a^b == e^(log(a)b)
< 1448083221 38862 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this help?
< 1448083222 229351 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Function composition commutative?
< 1448083249 176329 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not composition?
< 1448083283 693037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Multiplication of functions is the same as Composition in my AotF
< 1448083292 62103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :f^(a+bi) == f^a * f^bi
< 1448083301 713920 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is aotf?
< 1448083303 129906 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = 2x, g(x)=x+1, f.g(3) != g.f(3)
< 1448083309 458513 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Arithmetic of the Functia
< 1448083318 273059 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what it is
< 1448083322 353888 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functia is a corruption of Functions)
< 1448083339 784043 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's me being stupid and generalizing inverse functions into functions to the power of complex numbers
< 1448083364 927511 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And functions divided by other functions. Which actually works, believe it or not.
< 1448083385 561507 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I would like to find what happens when I raise a function to a c@mplex number xD
< 1448083440 678784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What I've been trying to figure out is how you iterate a function over a complex number
< 1448083499 717809 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :example?
< 1448083503 366087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: If you want more information on the AotF, here's a PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRvNdqqy3GPd3FxdmRrbnF5eE0/view
< 1448083516 140112 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :private
< 1448083518 956630 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1448083537 96099 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRvNdqqy3GPd3FxdmRrbnF5eE0/view?usp=sharing
< 1448083635 632255 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why but the text is in a really light grey over a white bg
< 1448083672 508864 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No clue. It isn't on my end; could be your . I made it in TeX. It's currently incomplete.
< 1448083674 336900 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have messed up something in firefox
< 1448083701 936741 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/71429/do-complex-iterates-of-functions-have-any-meaning
< 1448083707 88905 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something one of us would do
< 1448083712 866132 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: THANK YOU!
< 1448083717 346746 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i downloaded it
< 1448083727 349564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], we didn't even figure out how to take the absolute value of c@mplexes, did we?
< 1448083747 366764 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: We did not, AFAIK
< 1448083784 122808 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember shooting down one of my approaches, unsure about the other and unsure about tswett's
< 1448083828 955800 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just changed the official author of AotF to Hedwig Notta, included myself as translator
< 1448083830 840704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathoverflow isn't stackoverflow
< 1448083978 770131 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Um... correct?
< 1448083993 49707 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I began to read that, and now I've given up xD
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< 1448084436 435408 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, my trackpad decided to go nuts
< 1448084444 830194 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need it :C
< 1448085365 739866 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 4 . map (take 5) $ iterate (tail . (`iterate` 1) . (!!)) [1..]
< 1448085367 611201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5],[2,3,4,5,6],[3,5,7,9,11],[5,13,29,61,125]]
< 1448085385 834873 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is so easy to understand
< 1448085388 493144 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about this one
< 1448085397 799806 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not the most readable Haskell
< 1448085414 175066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such a thing?
< 1448085420 362134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an infinite-list-of-lists formulation of the Ackermann function
< 1448085466 41796 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno, but there is at least such a thing as *more* readable Haskell (than this)
< 1448085468 668235 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rather inefficient one, judging by the (!!)
< 1448085482 771781 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! unreadable and inefficient
< 1448085484 688838 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, codegolf was the goal
< 1448085497 783652 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it space sensitive?
< 1448085523 377574 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 4.map(take 5)$ iterate(tail.(`iterate` 1).(!!))[1..]
< 1448085525 25185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5],[2,3,4,5,6],[3,5,7,9,11],[5,13,29,61,125]]
< 1448085533 472326 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, as in whitespace?
< 1448085551 782187 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you can remove them (apart from the one between 'take' and '4' of course
< 1448085572 173528 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the most obvious thing to do with codegolf
< 1448085621 986570 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so obvious it's boring?  fair i guess
< 1448085680 382663 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, iterate(tail.(`iterate`1).(!!))[1..] is the actual list-of-lists
< 1448086165 10700 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Porn Logic" would be an interesting humorous (albeit a bit inappropriate) formal logic. 
< 1448086224 379465 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x -> y
< 1448086252 903473 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∴x⚤y
< 1448086317 664626 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably read as "XX moves towards XY".
< 1448086326 498602 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps
< 1448086381 386863 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also available is Troll Logic; x -> y, ∴santa <=> your parents
< 1448086415 804406 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, for the less perverse people among us
< 1448087402 525413 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well I suppose it'd have to be a modal logic...
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< 1448088353 110707 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1448088359 724476 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unary division and multiplication
< 1448088587 457491 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, pron logic is more: "She doesnt have money to tip the pizza dude" -> "she must pay with her body"
< 1448088710 752238 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it's a branch of the pre-Boole non-algebraic logic
< 1448089448 840229 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448089469 769091 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually started formalizing porn logic xD
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< 1448091717 814296 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think it is insane to have a complex-exponent of a function
< 1448091734 302684 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It probably is xD
< 1448091763 357092 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't make too much sense when you consider the commutatiy-of addition, noncommutativity-of-composition issue
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< 1448092411 578653 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ezxjeyzmunxhgfch QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448092424 994596 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if she does have money to tip the pizza dude
< 1448092686 276116 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yehlqvvohvjgfbrw JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448092733 865604 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That's why he used "->" instead of "<->"
< 1448093049 624506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45579&oldid=45552 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-48) 10/* Python 2 */ removed some unnecessary crap (tho more remains I think?)
< 1448093155 93957 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Should I make ‰ the "Supermodulus" in Kastor?
< 1448093238 737804 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ‰ looks a helluva lot like % in neoletters
< 1448093431 626200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll lambdabot it to him
< 1448093445 193657 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ ‰ looks a helluva lot like % in neoletters
< 1448093445 336134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448093468 547326 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ Same goes for ‱
< 1448093468 689830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448093918 89530 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448094034 791414 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1448094100 982092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up the one to one correspondence of natural numbers with finite lists of natural numbers, which is sequence starting with:  [] [0] [1] [0,0] [3] [0,1] [2] [0,0,0] [7] [0,3] [1,0] [0,0,1] [5] [0,2] [2,0] [0,0,0,0] [15] [0,7] [1,1] [0,0,3] [4] [0,1,0] [2,1] [0,0,0,1] [11] [0,5] [1,0,0] [0,0,2] [6] [0,2,0] [2,0,0] [0,0,0,0,0] [31] [0,15] [1,3] [0,0,7] [3,0] [0,1,1] [2,3] [0,0,0,3] [9]
< 1448094125 681667 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448094140 127722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? Is there a better way?
< 1448094296 100530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can see what kind of properties it has, and possibly other ways you can even come up with such the same thing rather than only how I did it at first.
< 1448094430 455920 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] [0] [1] [0,0] [0,1] [0,2] [1,0] [1,1] [1,2] [2,0] [2,1] [2,2] [0,0,0] ...
< 1448094443 237806 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1448094496 357757 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] [0] [1] [0,0] [0,1] [0,2] [1,0] [1,1] [1,2] [2,0] [2,1] [2,2] [2] [0,0,0] ...
< 1448094674 741281 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.110.181 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448094699 566993 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.110.181 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448094713 454491 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me start over <.<
< 1448094729 769672 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some form of hypermodulus out there that works for hyperoperation inverses where n>=3?
< 1448094739 166970 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :enumerate all the sequences of 0..n of size at most n, then n++, repeat
< 1448094767 562958 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example modulog(9, 2)=1 because 2**3=8 and 9=8-1
< 1448094783 505184 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And moduroot defined similarly
< 1448094813 375713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45580&oldid=45570 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+1160) 10Removed 0 instruction just because it wasn't strictly necessary.
< 1448094869 922726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45581&oldid=45580 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10lol, it hadn't even been invented yet!
< 1448095065 852023 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448095094 688592 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448095216 726605 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnird
< 1448095391 264027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How I defined it is: Each element in the list is you write the number one more than that in base two and then add however many leading zeros is one less than how many bits in that number, and then put all of them together and then reverse the bits.
< 1448095556 11480 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Point operator14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45582 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1823) 10Created Page
< 1448095630 701556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Point operator14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45583&oldid=45582 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10Fixed a link
< 1448095686 677933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Point operator14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45584&oldid=45583 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-4) 10Delinked
< 1448095703 193425 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan
< 1448095789 127091 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion
< 1448095812 729127 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivmqagslmyqmzaxx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1448095877 682473 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is there a hypermodulus for roots and logs that works something like mlog(2, 9)=1?
< 1448095886 819827 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there isn't, would such an operator be useful?
< 1448095898 152020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another kind of correspondence could be: Add one to the last element of the list (if any), make Godel encoding of the sequence, and then subtract one from the answer.)
< 1448095933 632461 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i have no idea what you mean by that.
< 1448095984 921974 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hypermodulus is like :log|root :: %:/
< 1448096005 750504 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is %:
< 1448096017 448558 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Modulus. At least, in a lot of languages
< 1448096032 440741 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure the : isn't normally included.
< 1448096052 287939 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1448096053 836256 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, the : was because it was an Aristotilean analogy clause
< 1448096070 606728 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by mlog(2, 9)=1 I meant that the modular log[2] of 9 is equal to 1, because 2**3=8 and 9=8-1
< 1448096084 873343 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally an actual definition
< 1448096085 460872 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroot is defined similarly
< 1448096096 90346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1448096142 961467 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically the remainder of integer logarithms or roots. If that makes any sense.
< 1448096154 692237 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm
< 1448096175 954337 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you describe how to calculate mlog(m, n)
< 1448096254 153614 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The inefficient way is to, starting with x=0, increment x by m until x+m>n, then to return n-m
< 1448096262 326334 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not
< 1448096263 814516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45585&oldid=45581 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-6) 10/* Python 2 */ Moved file loading to the Purple class to make it easy to use when imported as a module.
< 1448096263 956852 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no
< 1448096277 794516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not increment by x, you start with x=1 and multiply by x
< 1448096300 639320 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that doesn't account for x <= 0, but it's a start.
< 1448096377 555218 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you write n in base m and subtract 1 from the first digit?
< 1448096391 376169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe?
< 1448096425 385467 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mlog(3,80) = 53 then?
< 1448096440 380842 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is _larger_ than the power you're subtracting)
< 1448096455 674460 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how this is particularly useful
< 1448096459 663454 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might've gotten my definition wrong; the point is that mlog like modulus, except it uses logarithms instead of division
< 1448096486 130598 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't, but it's a nice generaliation I guess.
< 1448096546 204337 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulus comes from a deep mathematical theory.  it's not going to be very useful without it.
< 1448096576 86251 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448096582 18285 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically, the modulus relation is a ring congruence)
< 1448096601 776751 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've just lost me xD
< 1448096609 56913 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have its uses
< 1448096657 785285 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, I'm just looking for something for the binary/infix ‰ operator in Kastor
< 1448096676 339385 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‰
< 1448096677 780792 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2030 PER MILLE SIGN]
< 1448096733 4094 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing that i know is useful is discrete logarithm
< 1448096767 68419 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, that's not always defined, and you need to factorize to find it.
< 1448096797 656505 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you implement operator precedence you might as well parse floats correctly
< 1448096808 528042 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as implementing operater procedence is way harder than parsing floats
< 1448096958 441652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1448096962 114337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ?
< 1448096980 453813 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you refering to the point operator?
< 1448096989 528802 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you could define it not as "joining" but as uhm x + 1/y or something ;)
< 1448096990 992385 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes
< 1448097003 659263 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 + (1/20)
< 1448097007 90459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.05
< 1448097012 782218 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be 3.20
< 1448097018 480790 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which translates to 3.05
< 1448097035 544022 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: That was just a stupid idea; not something I'm going to use
< 1448097046 712763 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know :)
< 1448097056 336886 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just making suggestions for other stupid ideas :)
< 1448097057 775026 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm implementing in Python at least initially so...
< 1448097059 76047 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1448097064 2612 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course xD
< 1448097081 849161 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd might solve the 3.05 problem ;)
< 1448097099 760245 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it would also be incredibly hard to know what you're doing
< 1448097142 905195 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it the backslash operator
< 1448097147 777114 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a\b = a + (1/b)
< 1448097157 529194 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 \ 20
< 1448097159 9530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: parse error on input ‘\’
< 1448097168 913560 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. You can't define that in haskell.
< 1448097183 956649 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] \\ []
< 1448097185 544248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : []
< 1448097194 530927 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (\\\)
< 1448097195 740012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: ‘\\\’
< 1448097195 882501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1448097195 882563 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :      ‘IM.\\’ (imported from Data.IntMap),
< 1448097208 47058 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define (\\\) a b = a + (a / b)
< 1448097209 876915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1448097213 297799 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah shit
< 1448097215 760034 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define (\\\) a b = a + (1 / b)
< 1448097216 926130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:160:1: Warning:
< 1448097217 68460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Pattern match(es) are overlapped
< 1448097217 68527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     In an equation for ‘\\\’: \\\ a b = ...
< 1448097221 121806 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1448097224 233371 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no redefine is there?
< 1448097231 825657 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@redefine (\\\) a b = a + (1 / b)
< 1448097231 968060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: undefine define
< 1448097237 377406 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine (\\\)
< 1448097237 520097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's currently no way to undefine just one thing.  Say @undefine (with no extra words) to undefine everything.
< 1448097237 520220 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@redefine
< 1448097237 662391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: undefine define
< 1448097256 297611 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define (\\\\) a b = a + (1 / b)
< 1448097258 248776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1448097262 193608 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1448097267 935343 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 \\\\ 20
< 1448097269 604136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.05
< 1448097280 865482 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 \\\ 20
< 1448097282 543261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.15
< 1448097294 385714 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 \\\ 100
< 1448097296 175878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.1
< 1448097300 956929 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't too bad actually
< 1448097368 794136 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define (\\\\\) a b = a + (b / a)
< 1448097370 200431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1448097374 377960 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 \\\\\ 20
< 1448097376 60626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.666666666666668
< 1448097395 482524 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose a language with only \\\\ operators .
< 1448097404 920202 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3 \\\\\ 20) \\\ 10
< 1448097406 744636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.633333333333335
< 1448097411 265865 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3 \\\\\ 20) \\\ 10 \\\\ 9
< 1448097412 796959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.744444444444445
< 1448097433 226325 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 \\\ 1
< 1448097434 915202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20.0
< 1448097439 466399 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50 \\\ 1
< 1448097441 125627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100.0
< 1448097446 506369 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50 \\\\ 1
< 1448097448 54341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 51.0
< 1448097457 18179 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50 \\\\ -1
< 1448097458 585338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Precedence parsing error
< 1448097458 727754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         cannot mix ‘\\\\’ [infixl 9] and prefix `-' [infixl 6] in the same i...
< 1448097462 850358 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50 \\\\ (-1)
< 1448097464 434187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 49.0
< 1448097481 226175 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50 \\\\ (-2)
< 1448097482 917311 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 49.5
< 1448097496 434776 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you can do incs/decs quite conveniently
< 1448097523 466651 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (\\\) [1..10]
< 1448097525 56023 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.5
< 1448097527 924448 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (\\\\) [1..10]
< 1448097529 670584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.9289682539682538
< 1448097533 98213 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (\\\\\) [1..10]
< 1448097534 976461 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11.0
< 1448097540 953707 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (\\\) [1..100]
< 1448097542 693172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 50.5
< 1448097548 850515 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (\\\\) [1..100]
< 1448097550 472483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.187377517639621
< 1448097568 858796 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does any of those converge at some point?
< 1448097582 820106 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe \\\\\ the others probably not.
< 1448097599 94855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Should I include the backslash operator in Kastor just as a reference no one will ever get? xD
< 1448097655 418584 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1448097656 774441 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally.
< 1448097697 341185 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Should I make it sinlge-backslash or triple-backslash?
< 1448097707 411809 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, quadruple-backslash
< 1448097858 49539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making "\\\" equal to a+(a/b) and calling it "mroman's folley"
< 1448097871 219668 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well a\b should be a + (a /b), a\\b should be a + (1 / b) and a\\\b should be a + (b / a) ;)
< 1448097879 483791 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever
< 1448097890 63605 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you only implement one then use the a + (1 / b) one
< 1448097900 276033 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the most practical of those
< 1448098093 600508 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'm keeping them the way they were implemented here, partially because I'll likely never want to use the \\\ operator for anything else, but I might want the \
< 1448098099 983254 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the \\\\\ operator called?
< 1448098218 990294 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 \\\ 5
< 1448098221 115690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12.0
< 1448098273 722716 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Should I exclusively define \\\\\\(\\(\\)?)? for INTs, or should I allow floats as arguments as well (NUM in general)?
< 1448098382 919803 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10.5 \\\\ 3.2
< 1448098384 905010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.8125
< 1448098399 343600 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. NUMs it is.
< 1448098422 753259 :andrew_!~andrew@116.30.110.181 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448098456 55836 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::h
< 1448098460 767309 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :h
< 1448098462 129612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’
< 1448098466 600056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> help
< 1448098468 226327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘help’
< 1448098741 197075 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call them the backslash operators of n-th order :D
< 1448098744 247194 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1448098749 400536 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably don't have an official name
< 1448098794 776522 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1448098870 871889 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA
< 1448098871 254544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 210920Z 11005KT 7000 2000W SHSN FEW000 SCT009 BKN020 M03/M03 Q1001 TEMPO 0600 SHSN VV005 RMK WIND 670FT 17007KT
< 1448098881 651032 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOW
< 1448098893 403103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK
< 1448098893 669808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 210853Z 03003KT 7SM MIFG FEW005 09/08 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP182 T00940083 58001
< 1448098903 795594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYESW
< 1448100096 456211 :andrew__!~andrew@116.30.105.108 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448100272 711167 :andrew_!~andrew@116.30.110.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448100290 872428 :andrew_!~andrew@116.30.105.108 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448100299 739442 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.110.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448100508 700186 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a string and several substrings of it
< 1448100513 119515 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no actually
< 1448100523 321033 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the string, i have several substrings of it
< 1448100525 33203 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they overlap
< 1448100536 108806 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to recreate the original string
< 1448100580 289101 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is known that at each step there is a pair of substrings with the maximal overlap, and i should join those
< 1448100687 688776 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i have ABCDEF, DEFG, BCDE, XYZABC and XCDEZ
< 1448100729 489737 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could join ABCDEF with DEFG, but you mustn't because you have to join ABCDEF with BCDE
< 1448100768 286842 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an efficient way to do it?
< 1448100792 850762 :madai1!~owner2@softbank126117164171.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448101012 772139 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i ask this already
< 1448101064 957466 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was working on this a few days ago and i kinda ignored it since then
< 1448101529 59343 :madai1!~owner2@softbank126117164171.bbtec.net PART :#esoteric
< 1448102278 337707 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1448102417 874402 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448102589 102264 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448102807 36580 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't see a way to do that nicely
< 1448102874 399744 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my not nice way is O(too^much)
< 1448102939 541434 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is probably similar to my not nice way
< 1448102992 239762 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I need to learn how to actually do things
< 1448103003 64783 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: get off irc
< 1448103054 44554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried that, it doesn't help
< 1448103065 692299 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have ADHD or something, I need to book an appointment or something to get that checked out
< 1448103392 76161 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448103676 617796 :andrew__!~andrew@116.30.105.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448103676 798588 :andrew_!~andrew@116.30.105.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448104802 868420 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(2^n) algorithms are actually pretty fast
< 1448104812 287308 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your input size is 0 < n < 1
< 1448104834 31712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is wrong in so many ways
< 1448104844 415024 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wrong in so many ways.
< 1448105019 680079 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's mostly due to me not having any notable academic degree :)
< 1448105184 311931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how academic degrees work...
< 1448105417 24875 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly how they work
< 1448105426 240678 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I you have one, you have been taught a lot of stuff
< 1448105429 385320 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1448105437 216449 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course
< 1448105439 888784 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I had one
< 1448105445 356034 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still be wrong in so many other ways.
< 1448105575 791762 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd still be a layperson about almost everything.
< 1448105609 79613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To err is human" goes really, really deep.
< 1448105622 41222 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw man
< 1448105630 930882 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube removed pretty much all the hogan's heroes episodes
< 1448105637 983460 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get multiple degrees
< 1448105651 882125 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True.
< 1448105653 57312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: right. drops in the desert
< 1448105665 56354 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :get moar
< 1448105678 612318 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: if you're lucky you can create a small oasis
< 1448105679 653408 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with enough degrees there's not gonna be much left to be a layman about
< 1448105693 11511 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sand grains in the desert
< 1448105696 538876 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only so much time
< 1448105703 178527 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that in the time I'd need to calculate 5-19 the exam will already be over :)
< 1448105711 278578 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :invent time travel?
< 1448105731 142646 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I would have tried to get a degree
< 1448105736 729139 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does time travel help? rejuvenation/immortality however...
< 1448105752 638622 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said there's only so much time
< 1448105753 30907 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448105762 872987 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant personal time.
< 1448105768 243290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. lifetime
< 1448105786 218312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel, as I understand it, doesn't prolong that
< 1448105811 337749 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you surely can travel in the future so there's less research to do
< 1448105837 2924 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means there would be even more to be ignorant about...
< 1448105837 836514 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: They are going to check me next thursday
< 1448105849 525661 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good luck!
< 1448105854 213343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually, a time machine *would* work wonders, but you have to travel back in time.
< 1448105857 18878 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I think I have ADHD
< 1448105875 51924 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for insurance purposes they'll do some general testing.
< 1448105955 850671 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: did you see the last girl genius
< 1448106023 256066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious guess as to who is speaking in the last panel
< 1448106117 278815 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No guess, I haven't thought about it. It's been too long.
< 1448106130 191697 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is othar
< 1448106144 695973 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes perfect sense
< 1448106166 463057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the dispensible indestructible superhero... makes sense
< 1448106183 969524 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually they want me to screen for Aspergers)
< 1448106223 615318 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally got to see in writing that he's actually diagnosed with Aspergers

< 1448106228 132710 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I definitely don't have Aspergers. I'd know that.)
< 1448106239 562493 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd know if I had ADHD.
< 1448106240 609943 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1448106246 624048 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ARE YOU SURE
< 1448106251 20444 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1448106253 189460 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOOOIN US...
< 1448106255 380656 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell wouldn't I know that?
< 1448106281 53125 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't really diagnose it past childhood anyway
< 1448106288 525770 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure the diagnosis was properly set.  it was done in a bit of a hurry.

< 1448106299 717900 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh?
< 1448106315 941816 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The formal requirement is that symptoms must exist since early childhood.
< 1448106321 456895 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, i'm pretty sure it wasn't.
< 1448106337 181809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ic
< 1448106339 293373 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm pretty sure either my parents or a teacher would have picked up on signs if I had Aspergers.
< 1448106343 364279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway I'm still annoyed, I'd rather see progress on the Paris story ... above ground ...
< 1448106384 11028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but now it seems likely that that won't happen this year.
< 1448106385 432578 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i got the diagnosis because my Dad kept blathering about it, so obviously _he_ thought there had been signs - but it wasn't a known thing when i grew up.
< 1448106391 605389 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more of a generally depressed/negative/anxious personality.
< 1448106416 901915 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm wondering if they'll return and find the place already overrun with revenants
< 1448106433 682684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly
< 1448106439 810275 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what will get Gil there
< 1448106454 308235 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i got that in my diagnosis too.
< 1448106492 524343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there another story arc that they could switch to? "meantime, in Sturmhalten castle ..."
< 1448106495 822081 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you have trouble doing homework on time?" "I don't know. I never did homework."
< 1448106501 798140 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That interview is going to be awkward.
< 1448106519 892614 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted "meanwhile"
< 1448106570 216006 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Psychiatrists in the past kept wondering whether I have social phobia, AvPD, Asperger's, BPD, NPD etc.
< 1448106602 606698 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now they want a formal diagnosis (because at some point the insurance company wants to know what the fuck is going on)
< 1448106706 331533 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm if Gil (and Klaus) don't know about Anevka being the other, she _might_ still be in control there.
< 1448106727 623323 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anevka"
< 1448106732 591731 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1448106737 638598 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Klaus knows, duh
< 1448106746 931911 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those standardized questionaires are highly inaccurate anyway.
< 1448106747 178319 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it unlikely that Gil doesn't...
< 1448106755 541873 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you ever think about hurting someone?" [ ] Yes [ ] No
< 1448106765 158889 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you cross yes, you'll get a point in Anti Social Behaviour
< 1448106769 856123 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how well they can communicate when sharing a body...

< 1448106775 263409 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of question is that...
< 1448106799 202262 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't answer that)
< 1448106824 547777 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ] Right now I want to stab whoever came up with this question.
< 1448106825 228985 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |spelling error
< 1448106825 371351 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |   ] Right now I want to stab whoever came up with this question.
< 1448106825 371408 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |                                                        ^
< 1448106835 668073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. another prefix.
< 1448106853 919170 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's how these work.
< 1448106870 218339 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't ask for "pathological" stuff, more for behaviours.
< 1448106877 471361 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including if you have hurt animals as a chil
< 1448106879 55147 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*child
< 1448106889 15690 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean common... who hasn't done that at some point during childhood
< 1448106901 46557 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: more like if you cross No, you'll get a point in Lying.
< 1448106904 25187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it makes sense... but apparently they expect the answers to be filtered through social norms rather than being honest.
< 1448106912 751890 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should ask "have you severly fucked up an animal other than maybe snakes or shitty animals like that"
< 1448106928 17612 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've stepped on a snake on purpose as a child.
< 1448106937 839572 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so technically I have intentionally hurt an animal.
< 1448106948 810560 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps you're supposed to forget about such thoughts... oh well
< 1448107029 143886 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i swat insects.  and sometimes i carefully trap them in a glass to let them out unharmed.  consistency, overrated...
< 1448107051 224105 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... "I did hurt someone... it was an accident. I thought about it for a long time wondering how I could've avoided it." <-- does that count?
< 1448107058 896688 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image.slidesharecdn.com/rydera-g-costap-t-jr-bagbyr-m-2007-120826023040-phpapp02/95/trastornos-de-personalidadryder-2007-10-728.jpg?cb=1345948301
< 1448107084 352127 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Are you afraid to try new things"
< 1448107094 761657 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AYE
< 1448107098 471933 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... sure
< 1448107102 864285 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess that's pretty normal.
< 1448107103 87711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :trick question! there is no right answer!
< 1448107109 690395 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it depends on that thing
< 1448107179 480451 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... so devoted to work ..."
< 1448107182 369977 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at work right now.
< 1448107184 872535 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my free time.
< 1448107202 745593 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I use my vacation days and still go to work. Nobody notices.
< 1448107323 913094 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :119. before you were 13, did you often skip school?
< 1448107326 875689 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only morons do that :D
< 1448107337 130409 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other terms: Only cool kids skip school.
< 1448108756 456001 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] function composition is associative hth
< 1448108756 634594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448108777 624445 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you have to beat it in before it sticks
< 1448108860 871216 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‱
< 1448108861 848174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2031 PER TEN THOUSAND SIGN]
< 1448108881 835020 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1448108984 891054 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I made up the one to one correspondence of natural numbers with finite lists of natural numbers, which is sequence starting with:  [] [0] [1] [0,0] [3] [0,1] [2] [0,0,0] [7] [0,3] [1,0] [0,0,1] [5] [0,2] [2,0] [0,0,0,0] [15] ... <-- is that the same as Taneb's
< 1448109068 856528 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, [3] before [2]?  oh well.
< 1448109075 888659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh... [] [0] [1] [0,0] [2] <-- expected a 2 here... and a 3 instead of the 7...
< 1448109086 770597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are as many finite sequences of natural numbers than natural numbers?
< 1448109090 694694 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember Taneb's, anyway

< 1448109098 142656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes hth
< 1448109163 894415 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnrh, bitiafv...
< 1448109174 782600 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Taneb's one-to-one?
< 1448109189 77212 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448109192 709201 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm if that [3] is a misprint then that's pretty much the "obvious" binary based one.
< 1448109194 743002 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is isomorphic to His tanebventions.
< 1448109208 419797 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: PROBABLY
< 1448109218 754406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly that's what Taneb also used.
< 1448109252 298843 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write the number in binary, and then take stretches of zeroes.
< 1448109260 326581 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :their lengths, that is.
< 1448109313 937662 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 5 -> 101 -> [0,1].  actually that doesn't tell which end he's starting from...
< 1448109350 432722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 -> 0001 [7] ... confused.
< 1448109377 153255 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 -> 0101 [1,0] (yes I'm putting the lsb first)
< 1448109383 251310 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm zzo38 must be doing something differently
< 1448109414 464968 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait [0,1] must start with lsb if it's to be 5.
< 1448109447 369639 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may be Taneb's we are describing.
< 1448109512 890709 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he applied it recursively, to get a list of lists of ...
< 1448109534 41999 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a ghc 8?
< 1448109541 203298 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ApplicativeDo
< 1448109543 824263 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: pretty sure 10 should be [1,1]
< 1448109557 238044 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the upcoming one
< 1448109570 472921 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they make a release candidate?
< 1448109586 418213 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1448109593 705400 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just randomly stumbled upon Typed.Spreadsheet
< 1448109612 414100 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this computer problem i may never be able to catch up to my haskell reading.
< 1448109617 280019 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: POURED CHICKEN
< 1448109631 922427 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.10.2 is current
< 1448109651 600733 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, ApplicativeDo is slated for 8.0.
< 1448109673 253767 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8.0.1)
< 1448109711 24057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which syntax is that?
< 1448109787 918532 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal do syntax, just reinterpreted as Applicative when possible
< 1448109810 242681 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand much of the fancy extensions anyway
< 1448109814 98955 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :InjectiveTypeFamalies
< 1448109820 258157 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, everything zzo38 says is a reverse engineering task... this is just another one I'll give up on
< 1448109825 836186 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do x <- a; y <- b; return (f x y)  -->  liftA2 f a b
< 1448109850 102403 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or f <$> a <*> b
< 1448109896 172804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not sure... note the odd encoding of [2] which is the same as concatenating the encodings of [0] and [1]. For a moment I thought he was mapping 1 bits to 0, and zero bits and eof to two-bit stings... but that's not right either.
< 1448110008 229625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that idea, the true interpretation of [1] would be 010, which isn't a prefix of 011, the encoding of 1; this is compatible with the "odd" interpretation of 10, the concatenation of 010 = [1] and 1 = [0])
< 1448110028 339690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the encoding of 1/the encoding of [2]/
< 1448110067 640121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok
< 1448110067 782337 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing
< 1448110133 452751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so basically, that's possible when the library defines Monad to require Applicative?
< 1448110142 188679 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm gonna screw with the global drug survey
< 1448110152 796635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is there also a Functor do?
< 1448110160 419565 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's a requirement
< 1448110176 443817 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i dunno, seems reasonable but limited
< 1448110240 649439 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448110256 351750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I get it...
< 1448110361 997693 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/aAWf
< 1448110366 113029 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1448110370 86565 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane
< 1448110395 5132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lsb first, and of course trailing zeros don't contribute to the encoding)
< 1448110504 750982 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How easy would it be for you get it prescribed to you within the next 7 days?" Pretty easy :D
< 1448110520 272178 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION HELLO

< 1448110548 273982 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has just picked up my copy of TAoCP from the post office

< 1448110611 138455 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo38's system looks similar to mine, but his is weird in some way I don't understand
< 1448110621 115838 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: int-e has the right of it
< 1448110631 620119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which volume(s), what translation, and in dead tree or ebook?
< 1448110633 843648 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still has no idea what int-e means, either

< 1448110640 658156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, great
< 1448110643 36180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good book
< 1448110649 948954 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's in English, 1-4A, dead tree (hardback)
< 1448110658 999210 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might not be trying very hard.
< 1448110667 560504 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was an ebook I could have saved some time and not walked to the post office
< 1448110673 539966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1448110678 518205 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the numbers are the distances between the bits
< 1448110681 695580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that paste lists the encodings of singleton lists (lsb first); to encode longer lists, you concatenate the corresponding singleton lists, then read off a natural number.
< 1448110689 537090 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 0d0 => 0b0 => []
< 1448110704 39281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :0d10 => 0b1010 => [1,1] I think
< 1448110720 107552 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so [0,1] --> 1 010 -> 5; [1,0] -> 010 1 -> 10
< 1448110752 923270 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i mean in zzo38's system
< 1448110761 627669 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, I have no idea what's up with that
< 1448110765 253480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with primes?
< 1448110818 714831 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4] = 00101 = 24 comes after [15] = 000010000 = 16
< 1448110840 190890 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ic
< 1448110861 709746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, [4] = 20
< 1448110872 417499 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to decode the other way, you first see how many 0's the number starts with, and chop off twice as many bits + 1
< 1448110883 948246 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lsb first)
< 1448110886 169625 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have no idea what is going on
< 1448110886 577015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448110968 483766 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a prefix-free encoding
< 1448110979 67623 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :put differently, you encode n+1 in binary, and prefix that by 0 for each non-leading digit in the result.   4: encode 5: 101; it has 1+2 digits, so it becomes 00101
< 1448111042 200992 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then there's a bit reversal... yay)
< 1448111076 221350 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :help im covered in chameleons and no one believes me
< 1448111166 171528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a setup for a joke
< 1448111192 891500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: but if the first part is true, maybe IRC is not the right place to ask for help.
< 1448111282 866676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: :DD
< 1448111305 831604 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what happens when a chameleon sits on the invisible pink unicorn?
< 1448111325 383004 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the chameleon becomes pink
< 1448111509 978642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I wonder what the ETA of volume 4B is
< 1448111535 661374 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1448111576 604634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for dropping the chameleon question, but it seems that I have no arguments for either of the three obvious possibilities (ping, invisible, no change))
< 1448111579 679979 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pink
< 1448111752 531409 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know it's pink when you can't see it?
< 1448111792 179519 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's pink on the inside
< 1448111807 872587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise it wouldn't be the invisble pink unicorn, duh.
< 1448111818 467015 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's invisible there's no observable colour.
< 1448111832 731553 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so it's pink under the surface.
< 1448111848 639171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pink is part of its essence
< 1448111850 403768 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chameleon can't see that the unicorn is pink.
< 1448111934 491915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: surely you must have heard of the invisible pink unicorn before...
< 1448111945 206445 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ontologically pink, of course.
< 1448111964 532445 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Nope.
< 1448111966 937444 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How does anyone know that it's a unicorn, for that matter?)
< 1448111971 166385 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much of a unicorn fan.
< 1448111979 532431 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have heard that scots seem to like unicorns.
< 1448111985 307612 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
< 1448111999 706378 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: You can touch it and get a rough estimate of it's shape.
< 1448112002 663170 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can do a sonar
< 1448112007 565926 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives you the shape of a unicorn.
< 1448112047 464129 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming it somehow alters electromagnetic waves to make it invisible. So using x-ray might not work then)
< 1448112149 621772 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is common when discussing the Invisible Pink Unicorn to point out that because she is invisible, no one can prove that she does not exist"
< 1448112152 797310 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is so unscientific.
< 1448112168 710763 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's just invisible doesn't mean it leaves no traces or does not reflect sound waves.
< 1448112173 511362 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like the IPU much better than the FSM; they both have equal right to exist, but the IPU is so much more poetic)
< 1448112173 722893 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or produces sound waves for that matter)
< 1448112209 693802 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did they sex the invisible pink unicorn if she's invisible
< 1448112226 152028 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe she told them
< 1448112227 857261 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better leave that one unanswered.
< 1448112304 999461 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSM makes way more sense than an invisible unicorn.
< 1448112421 252182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, the invisible pink unicorn is much simpler than that
< 1448112439 41085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a unicorn that is shy and almost never shows himself in front of others
< 1448112461 660094 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so almost nobody has seen him, and the ones who have seen him generally aren't allowed to talk about it
< 1448112473 648288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we know he's pink for two reasons:
< 1448112493 608969 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. he does sometimes show his horn, which is pink, and most unicorns have the same body color as their horn,
< 1448112509 28199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 2. he can see himself, and says he's pink, and we trust him.
< 1448112609 269349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's an alternative of course, namely that he's a unicorn represented as rgba without premultiplied alpha, so there's color data of him stored even in the fully transparent pixels.)
< 1448113474 402615 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSM > IPU
< 1448114306 954478 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.226 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1448114531 764596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "FSM" `compare` "IPU"
< 1448114533 807931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : LT
< 1448114729 846299 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsm < ipu < eris
< 1448116724 912289 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for these wiki formats that are supposed to be easy to use, I hate two things about the bbcode parser of phpBB:
< 1448116795 524640 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) it takes all newlines in the source code to mean a 
 in the output, so you must leave no newlines in foo [list][*] bar [*] bar [/list] foo [quote=someone] hi [/quote] or else you'll get ugly output with way too much vertical blank space,
< 1448116809 132648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) it has no way to specify alternate text for images.
< 1448116906 197540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, mediawiki very rarely does this thing where extra newlines in the source result in extra lines in the output, but it comes up in very rare conditions only, not like around every list or something.
< 1448116932 132369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I have to write some sort of html to bbcode transator for myself.
< 1448117233 818401 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the saying goes, it makes easy things easy and hard things impossible.
< 1448118278 792947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, crazy question, why does linux 4.4 add an mlock2 system call rather than just adding a mode to madvise, which already has modes that do more than just advise.
< 1448118505 326430 :andrew!~andrew@59.38.97.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448118659 407853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :madvise(2): "This call does not influence the semantics of the application"...
< 1448119063 77552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's the theory. no.
< 1448119075 462246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: some modes of madvise and fadvise are like that, but not all
< 1448119101 468371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fadvise/posix_fadvise/ or whatever it's called these days
< 1448119160 28474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: MADV_NORMAL, MADV_RANDOM, MADV_SEQUENTIAL, MADV_WILLNEED are indeed only optimization advise,
< 1448119263 208634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but MADV_DONTNEED does have semantics, it means what you wrote to that memory area can be discarded, MADV_REMOVE and MADV_DONTFORK and MADV_DOFORK similarly has semantics.
< 1448119291 547752 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, DONTNEED only exists because people conflated address space and memory.
< 1448119305 85168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say that some of those should be modes in mprotect rather than madvise, but whatever.
< 1448119351 664760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit I'm not really familiar with the details of all this memory handling stuff, but I'm quite sure some modes of madvise can have semantics in Linux.
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< 1448122766 350541 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host
< 1448122766 350601 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448124406 345176 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448125884 813058 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/77/  i'm not sure about a thing, help me out
< 1448125920 683375 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say that every time i have to join the two words with the longest overlap
< 1448125974 297356 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so i joined two words in turn 1.  now, next turn: will the longest overlap always be the new word + something?
< 1448125999 201509 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily
< 1448126010 309957 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you show an example?
< 1448126033 523466 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCD, DEFG, MNO, NOP
< 1448126044 2876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :First match makes ABCDEFG
< 1448126046 385764 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but there must be an overlap
< 1448126070 87186 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCD, DEFG, GMNO, NOP then
< 1448126079 669825 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1448126137 289275 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm being pedantic, but can you show an example in which joining the word i generated in turn 1 with something leads to an incorrect result?
< 1448126229 668833 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCDE, CDEFG, GMNOP, MNOPQFG, FGX?
< 1448126244 800053 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thanks, let me see
< 1448126247 284208 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's not right, but I think the principle's there
< 1448126274 424450 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1448126275 3997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, did you join two words with the longest overlap?
< 1448126278 291773 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect example
< 1448126353 533869 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say that if at first you don't succeed, trie, trie, trie again.
< 1448126513 633620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that "Fragments must overlap at their start or end.", but also says ""ABCDEF" and "BCDE" overlap with overlap length 4" which doesn't overlap at the start or end of ABCDEF...
< 1448127044 205199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the "rebuild the secret message from lots of tiny scraps" challenge?
< 1448127193 727104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1448127463 731768 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two similar ones
< 1448127507 857678 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one is https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/185/
< 1448127521 498247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never done any of these, would you recommend them?
< 1448127531 590884 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno
< 1448127542 848929 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is that they're painful to do in bash
< 1448127671 691333 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahaha
< 1448127677 90615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things are, to be fair
< 1448127846 229405 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1448128042 334004 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448128130 888678 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbmebjjtzckteahu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448128133 969160 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxmjfsczrkaozccf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448128365 44882 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible that a piece that didn't exist at the beginning (== it was created by joining two pieces) fits inside another piece that likewise didn't exists at the beginning?
< 1448128509 460629 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC, DEF, BCD, DCE
< 1448128518 83924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1448128525 924188 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't work
< 1448128528 268169 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... maybe?
< 1448128769 414549 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just wondering if i can just join all of them in a preliminary step and never check that case again
< 1448128823 115895 :impomatic_!~digital_w@42.147.189.80.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448129785 704056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :blub
< 1448130259 624577 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow I am so nervous
< 1448130789 620915 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448130792 38269 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard
< 1448130937 15674 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bpeouiaxpaixkirc JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448133072 744262 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.229 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1448134200 543955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The [3] before [2] is not a mistake. Also it is not related to prime numbers, but the "Modified Godel Encoding" which I suggested afterward is related to prime numbers.
< 1448134327 987766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brackit14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45586&oldid=45533 5* 03Blakusl 5* (+138) 10
< 1448134419 654378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am dizzy
< 1448134424 39059 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sluggish
< 1448134434 508313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :need more calories, liquid, and possibly caffeine
< 1448136411 393188 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448137207 611807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/dontclick.txt
< 1448137286 71070 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448137327 780493 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 404 Not Found.
< 1448137512 118154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45587&oldid=45217 5* 03114.78.113.191 5* (+93) 10/* General languages */
< 1448137700 303480 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07C++14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45588 5* 03114.78.113.191 5* (+77) 10Created page with "A language created by Bjarne Stroustrup as a joke, but later got out of hand."
< 1448137981 531286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45589&oldid=45587 5* 03114.78.113.191 5* (+62) 10/* General languages */
< 1448138451 724191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448138500 570180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is slbkbs
< 1448138602 638062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like ben-kiki but snazzier
< 1448139507 975828 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448140332 691073 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I have bacon and cookies for dinner?
< 1448140474 886559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1448140476 975779 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's silly
< 1448140496 331138 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a full dinner unless its cookies baked with bacon, or encrusted in bacon crumbles
< 1448140623 329449 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh. maybe I'll get pizza.
< 1448140647 921052 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza is always good in this neighbourhood (I live in the centre of little italy)
< 1448143783 369454 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448143813 697922 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why would this program be an infinite loop: ++++++++++>++++++++++++[-<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[->>+<<]<]>>>. ?
< 1448143869 55186 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448144118 519946 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey there.
< 1448144148 261787 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that aimed at me?
< 1448144151 61995 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme renotate that.
< 1448144153 292377 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1448144306 701272 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck? it's not an infinite loop; it prints an 'x', apperently
< 1448144324 346483 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1448144334 981861 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly notation: 10+ > 12+ [ - < dump(2R, 3R) >>> dump(3L) < dump(2R) < ]
< 1448144335 567045 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I must have been using a broken interpreter then
< 1448144347 408028 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I made up just now and which isn't very good.
< 1448144362 907683 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 120
< 1448144364 465707 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'x'
< 1448144391 506909 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: interestingly enough that bf code was generated from this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/RyvonUvzf8BpWfFPXvDM/
< 1448144392 631559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it computes 10*12)
< 1448144460 685206 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's the intention
< 1448144477 446795 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone know a good brainfuck interpreter that'll work on linux? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iSRYfV_toY
< 1448144479 909266 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1448144483 208922 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that link
< 1448144583 773335 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t[0] = 10; t[1] = 12; while (t[1]) { t[1]--; t[2] += t[0]; t[3] += t[0]; t[0] = 0; t[0] = t[3]; t[3] = 0; t[4] += t[2]; t[2] = 0 }; print(t[4])
< 1448144586 109285 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that.
< 1448144590 692953 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can be simplified, obviously.
< 1448144617 189034 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes clearly
< 1448144983 878299 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1448145057 220348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_implementations is quite an impressive list
< 1448145438 184666 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448145504 234192 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, found one
< 1448145614 675045 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448145662 880386 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :next question: how do I go about doing indirect lookups without losing track of where the memory pointer is pointing?
< 1448145666 283459 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :indirection is hard
< 1448145764 815851 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448145976 828708 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave a marker behind.
< 1448146001 998916 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems prone to failure
< 1448146009 271754 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you do it perfectly.
< 1448146014 450323 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean...
< 1448146022 662876 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't pack the tape with payload data; some of it will have to be reserved for navigation data instead.
< 1448146028 79474 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448146039 126810 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One common approach, I think, is to just alternate. One cell of payload, one cell of navigation, and so forth.
< 1448146044 448351 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448146066 162246 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :still doesn't tell me how to actually do it though
< 1448146082 20877 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is trivial
< 1448146087 218187 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me
< 1448146090 609151 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the mathematical sense
< 1448146116 22469 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it means "possibly a lot of work but requires no real new ideas"
< 1448146128 865844 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, here's one technique.
< 1448146146 526104 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure out what your pointer is. Leave a marker in one navigation cell. Put your pointer into the other navigation cell.
< 1448146171 993946 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, repeatedly copy the pointer to the next navigation cell, subtracting one each time.
< 1448146178 877128 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One it hits zero, you're there, more or less.
< 1448146183 502729 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's sensible
< 1448146185 528692 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat!
< 1448146192 775443 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, when you want to go back, just look for the marker.
< 1448146241 116533 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has the disadvantage that it won't work for unbounded distance with bounded cells
< 1448146265 142100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can leave bookmarks behind
< 1448146267 185832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs

< 1448146286 325575 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is tedious.
< 1448146345 695178 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bookmarks are simpler when you don't need actual heaps of pointers
< 1448146373 318196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do I misremeber or did you (plan to, perhaps) implement a linear slowdown brainfuck self-interpreter that moves its state along the tape?
< 1448146376 905926 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that does limit your address size to the cell size
< 1448146396 834101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i thought about its design, no actual implementation
< 1448146402 529004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1448146431 711409 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all the usual interpreters don't have eigenratios because they're slowdown is quadratic
< 1448146444 281663 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, dependent on tape length
< 1448146450 144369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :their. right.
< 1448146455 786959 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1448146545 346678 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if you want to be able to access an *infinite* amount of memory (rather than a practically unlimited amount of memory), pointers don't really do the trick any more.
< 1448146562 350933 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, I guess they do.
< 1448146576 792284 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that you'll have to do some weird stuff.
< 1448146599 786452 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like variable-size pointers. If you want to address more memory than your pointers can currently address, then make pointers bigger.
< 1448146619 428320 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double the size of your memory words.
< 1448146640 823527 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that's going to require copying *all* of your memory (except maybe the first word) to a different location.
< 1448146642 155118 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, yes, simulating a heap with pointers directly is a challenge. there's no doubt that it can be done in principle, but it's a mess.
< 1448146646 107382 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't really care about infinite
< 1448146651 365628 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I care about reasonable
< 1448146654 944733 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1448146673 109827 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you can use one cell to represent an 8-bit number, you can use eight cells to represent a 64-bit number.
< 1448146678 922738 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 32-bit or whichever.
< 1448146683 214713 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448146748 87202 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if that's still boring you can think about making memory access faster by caching recently used cells nearby... *ducks*)
< 1448146791 548449 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1448146800 956565 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I wonder how you can serialize a graph as a sequence of symbols, without using ID strings.
< 1448146815 739545 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such that a Turing machine can reasonably operate on it.
< 1448146836 456189 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a "simple" memory access implementation will be linear, at best, in the address being accessed)
< 1448146851 639886 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear time, that is
< 1448146870 957012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it's much more likely to be quadratic)
< 1448146942 469404 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what makes the most sense to me is to serialize it as some sort of list of instructions for constructing the graph.
< 1448147088 459682 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a node, remember this node, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig to the remembered node, dig, remember this node, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig to the remembered node, follow this edge, that edge, blah blah blah.
< 1448147105 475051 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually going somewhere with that and then I decided to give up.
< 1448147155 86722 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know what, screw it, I'm going to come up with a complete list of instructions.
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< 1448147250 960322 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, for the Arithmetic of the Functia I've defined a way that all real numbers and acceptable substitutes are a subset of functions
< 1448147306 697142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Acceptable substitutes include naturals, integers, reals, complexes, surreals, surcomplexes, quaternions, octonions, sedenions, matrices of the aforementioned, etc.)
< 1448147361 541550 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a node, remember this node, dig a blue edge, dig a green edge, dig a red edge, dig a blue edge, dig a green edge to the remembered node, dig a red edge, remember this node, dig green, dig pink, dig blue, dig pink, dig blue to the remembered node, follow the green edge, remember this node, follow green, follow red, follow blue, follow green, dig blue to remembered, follow pink, remember, follow pink, follow blue, follow red, follow blue, dig 
< 1448147361 684011 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red to remembered, follow blue, remember, follow blue, pink, blue, green, dig red to remembered, follow pink, remember, follow pink, red, green, red, dig green to remembered.
< 1448147368 304669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02C++10]]": I'll just quote ehird from the previous Deletion log item: "I can't wait for the third time I delete this page"
< 1448147461 953913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45590&oldid=45589 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-155) 10This page is not a joke, even if its contents are. Er...
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< 1448147713 10716 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: how are the colors not IDs tdnh
< 1448147743 330469 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't uniquely identify edges.
< 1448147772 833381 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might need an unlimited number of colors anyway.
< 1448147776 683418 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1448147780 744434 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not.
< 1448147808 511109 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you're allowed to recolor edges, and also to delete edges and vertices and to join two vertices together along an edge?
< 1448147832 706841 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this monitor is awful
< 1448147983 752818 :Doxin!~Doxin@unaffiliated/doxin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1448148584 910342 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll roll BOOL into the supertype NUM
< 1448148678 369564 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you make true + true = false = false + false
< 1448148711 23746 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spoiler: + should be xor)
< 1448149791 741865 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^ is xor, but ⊤+⊥ will probably mean something
< 1448149892 857852 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Possibly xor as welll
< 1448149894 745655 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*well
< 1448149935 216078 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ⊻ ALSO means xor
< 1448149998 143939 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it's the logical xor, so it always returns a bool and accepts any boolable argument combination, whereas ^ is bitwise for ints and + will probably mean some other kind of xor)
< 1448150026 849897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, that palisade puzzle is addictive
< 1448150096 41560 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: YOU DON'T SAY
< 1448150128 854993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :18x16 with regions of size 12 still works well
< 1448150178 336534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :10x10 with regions of size 50 is kind of relaxing :)
< 1448150198 431876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still on standard 15 x 10

< 1448150208 280331 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait
< 1448150214 966542 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 x 12, size 10
< 1448150253 998532 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that has to be the only one in the menu where the region size isn't a side length
< 1448150311 629989 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fun when you pick up little tricks
< 1448150340 39304 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if there is a choke point in the walls, you can tell which side it belongs to, by counting
< 1448150388 255306 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly both)
< 1448150432 601296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, tedious, but it can help
< 1448150434 853715 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait it makes more sense to think of them as edges
< 1448150632 175075 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you have a 1 cornering an edge where the other cornering edge is missing, you can deduce that the opposing edges of the 1 are also missing
< 1448150895 931004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is trickier to describe than to use
< 1448151219 771805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448151230 742078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one that also works in loopy
< 1448151265 244620 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is matrix multiplication defined for matrices generalized to an aribitrary number of dimensions?
< 1448151270 873336 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more powerful in loopy, because you don't need to know the other cornering edge is missing, that also follows
< 1448151284 920737 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are tensors and tensor products, don't know details
< 1448151299 338455 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's good. 
< 1448151314 859516 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1448151320 134761 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch that
< 1448151340 744503 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: And are tensors like [n]D matrices?
< 1448151357 395635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you want to understand them, according to some people
< 1448151386 477179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor
< 1448151419 788670 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in loopy, you can also do it backwards, if the opposite edges of the 1 are missing, you can deduce that the other edge of the corner must be missing too.
< 1448151457 738426 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true in palisade, since a corner can have 3 edges.
< 1448151491 859164 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. In palisade, if you have two neighboring 3s, there must be a line in the middle; in loopy, you get two more forced lines from the same pattern...
< 1448151573 720627 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i also know that.  i think that was the first trick i found in palisade.
< 1448151597 289748 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also found that quickly for loopy, except for the two forced lines which took me a long time.
< 1448151628 564531 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it also generates to all other loopy geometries.
< 1448151657 419142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example if you have a triangle with a 2 bordering a square with a 3, as in some.
< 1448151695 529978 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most useful rules that work deep inside loopy, far from the borders
< 1448151714 319125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1448151748 817639 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*generalizes
< 1448151751 377534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah loopy has way more patterns of that sort, because you have full parity to work with instead of just one excluded number of neighbours (namely, 1).
< 1448151757 44792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1448151766 21515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of neighbours -> degree
< 1448151785 457347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the former is too ambiguous)
< 1448151808 921707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, sleep time
< 1448151810 103053 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's fun in loopy when you can follow parity in a long path of unknown edges to deduce something at the other end
< 1448151826 626148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :)
< 1448151878 145888 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think loopy is still my overall favorite in the collection.
< 1448151910 347394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :loopy, btw, also has a sort of choke point property: any enclosed area must have an even number of edges going in and out; this is sometimes useful in Nikoli's challenge (slitherlink) puzzles.
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< 1448152001 816505 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think for matrices, "dimension" usually refers to the number of rows and/or columns.  for generalizing to more than two classes like "row" and "column" (i.e. tensors) the word is "rank".
< 1448152029 564711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1 ... hmm.
< 1448152043 71891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oops, actually it's "order", afawps
< 1448152135 742855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall whether I used that parity property for that particular puzzle instance.
< 1448152136 245720 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i've found that one two yes, it's the most global property i use (well, that + non-zero)
< 1448152141 962146 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one too
< 1448152159 465315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, non-zero is the more obvious of the too :)
< 1448152187 697842 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh.
< 1448152274 78152 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmph confusingly they use dimension for the arrays of numbers representing the tensor.
< 1448152286 996205 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Weirdos.
< 1448152307 551537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, interest; Simon Tatham doesn't implement complete solvers for most of the puzzles...
< 1448152322 648345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing
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< 1448152400 329684 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does that mean there's a limited difficulty level for them?
< 1448152441 991294 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that link you gave requires flash and i've gotten to the habit of disabling it. ->
< 1448152460 857927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as far as we possibly see?
< 1448152488 699407 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what?
< 1448152493 206611 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1448152498 943502 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as wikipedia says
< 1448152540 803809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp, huh?
< 1448152551 988949 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in principle, yes; but he writes (in the documentation) that for many puzzles, since a computer is better at finding places where the simple techniques apply, people will resort to advanced techniques regardless.
< 1448152565 103408 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nikoli's page doesn't have a way to mark lines as known empty
< 1448152576 393009 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1448152590 123165 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes it does; click twice or shift-click
< 1448152658 190524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one thing you can do on nikoli but not in tatham's puzzles is that you can drag the mouse to draw several lines at once... so neither interface is perfect
< 1448152669 11727 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1448152720 259414 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-click is worse for my hands :(
< 1448152779 571768 :LemonEnt!b1c1de2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.193.222.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448152782 100664 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of them are
< 1448152832 852545 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my touchpad, neither of them can be completed in a single movement with each hand
< 1448153002 571948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to use the dragging to make up for it

< 1448153015 219289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moar zzom
< 1448153031 765926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the moar wasn't a typo, but the zzom was)
< 1448153073 769540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new apple touch pad is pretty fancy
< 1448153093 393080 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha?
< 1448153114 966047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like it clicks but it actually doesn't
< 1448153139 968598 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why did i do that
< 1448154869 436984 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll let users write polynomials (or a similar type of algebraic expression) in Kastor using a certain bracket pair
< 1448154875 577879 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only question is what brackets to use
< 1448155278 412096 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1448156400 723327 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :income brackets hth
< 1448156432 741558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in income tax?
< 1448156460 670483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are often half-open intervals, i think
< 1448156475 494307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you probably want [...) or [...[
< 1448156548 987886 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect when they're sane, they're at least continuous at the end points.
< 1448156550 568479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448156584 932869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google income brackets
< 1448156585 995022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.efile.com/tax-service/tax-calculator/tax-brackets/
< 1448156586 137473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Federal Income Tax Brackets for 2015 and Other Tax Years
< 1448156613 111969 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're not always sane, of course.  astrid lindgren once toppled the swedish government by making public that her marginal tax was > 100%)
< 1448156629 462614 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least that's how i like to interpret it.)
< 1448156632 545429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says 10% for $1 - $9225 and 15% for $9226 to $37,450
< 1448156649 798140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably that one dollar in the middle just isn't taxed
< 1448156658 136652 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how kind
< 1448156808 838883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448156813 659991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is tax law in the us so complicated
< 1448156829 166978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recently had the pleasure of reading parts of the internal revenue code. it was great.
< 1448156848 423773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course even reading the code isn't enough, you have to go by precedent and so on
< 1448156852 533625 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many special interests?
< 1448157173 213444 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> prec IRS
< 1448157175 194743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Not in scope: ‘prec’
< 1448157175 374612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1448157175 374688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       ‘pred’ (imported from Prelude), ‘pre’ (imported from Control.Lens)Not ...
< 1448157189 660636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pred IRS
< 1448157191 221490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘IRS’
< 1448157203 911392 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0`IRS`) -- hth
< 1448157205 418060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘IRS’
< 1448157208 479224 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1448157224 393820 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would have shown the precedence.
< 1448157559 960244 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any cards besides Panglacial Wurm that may result in a player following instructions on multiple cards simultaneously?
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< 1448157906 41976 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily!
< 1448157926 970215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU HEARD THE PURPLE NEWS?
< 1448158022 347808 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA!
< 1448158028 492303 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you aubergined?
< 1448158568 419355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS A PURPLE PAGE ON THE ESOWIKI. I AM SATISFIED :D
< 1448158745 358149 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, there's an UberGenes page too.)
< 1448158799 490739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as there are funges and brainfuck derivatives, shouldn't there be auberginey languages? auberginals? eggplants?)
< 1448158963 299361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45591&oldid=45563 5* 03Boily 5* (+272) 10Add proglang template
< 1448158979 639053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol woohoo
< 1448159025 820139 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to make a challenge on PPCG to write a Purple interpreter.
< 1448159047 669327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you imagine how short a Pyth implementation would be?
< 1448159121 764987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should flash a 'duino with an aubergine VM or something ^^
< 1448159195 532780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, deep question on /r/showerthoughts: “Does a centaur suck milk from horse nipples or human ones?”)
< 1448159641 894851 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is starting to suspect int-e of having linked the same nikoli challenge puzzle that he did on a previous occasion

< 1448159653 709500 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1448159655 668708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By the time they are old enough to reach human nipples, they should be weaning off"
< 1448159656 148203 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final stage gives me a deja vu feeling
< 1448159695 365813 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (incidentally, there's an UberGenes page too.) <-- dammit, i only just got that
< 1448159730 750828 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose not being too backlogged to visit the page would have helped
< 1448159731 4764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan!
< 1448159734 874579 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily!
< 1448159752 834262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did an esowikiedit!
< 1448159797 164901 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha!
< 1448159805 653103 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies
< 1448159824 437086 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloppro. I ain't be lying.
< 1448159840 446317 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITNESS THE INFALLIBLE BACKLOG!
< 1448159841 155407 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: i'd like to point out that human babies cannot reach human nipples either, without help
< 1448159857 347373 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even as an adult, I can't reach my nipples.
< 1448159872 533552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe you should get that looked at.
< 1448159915 630718 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes the fact that he's alone in his apartment and nobody saw him try to lick his own nipple.

< 1448159916 499960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm glad we agree the aubergine extension is .aub
< 1448159929 316469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else.
< 1448160034 572267 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :塔塗塚塞塡塾境墓増墜墨墳墾壁壇壊壌奇奈奉
< 1448160034 754707 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :奏契奔奥妙妥妨妬孔存孝孤宰宴宵寸寿封尽寝
< 1448160035 748840 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :尚峠斗斤斥爽
< 1448160056 972560 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ℵℶℷℸ
< 1448160084 924513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\オレンくんこんばんは\
< 1448160130 11289 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you managed to plug 墨 in your font?
< 1448160158 32362 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :当たり前だ！
< 1448160165 810281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: whoa whoa whoa
< 1448160177 791630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are mathematical letters, aren't they
< 1448160178 488145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh
< 1448160205 365209 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made them taller than the equivalent hebrew letters
< 1448160250 329609 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <- they are green
< 1448160252 575005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're ltr
< 1448160255 874083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizarre imo
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< 1448160966 349455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: In some cases there are mana steps (that includes in the process of casting a spell even if something else tells to cast it, or a payment for a triggered ability, or something else), so maybe there is other possibility too. (maybe)
< 1448160994 299157 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's true. Lots of cards result in you being able to activate mana abilities.
< 1448161094 330383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some mana abilities also have other effects, such as sacrificing permanents or damaging you (and replacement effects may apply to this damage)
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< 1448161848 896358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why am i playing this palisade game twh
< 1448161854 114379 :xk_id!~xk_id@unaffiliated/xk-id/x-0573425 PART #esoteric :"Leaving..."
< 1448161991 878160 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perfectly crafted temptation hth
< 1448162160 498256 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I counter a spell by using an instant to destroy a land  that my opponent needs in order to pay for it
< 1448162207 324246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if the land produces mana with a mana ability.
< 1448162225 699197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wouldn't be countering in any case.
< 1448162740 784803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destroying a land does not counter its ability, and if it is a mana ability then it already resolves anyways. Also you can't cast instants during a mana step (there are no interrupts any more; in the old rules mana abilities were interrupts). Even so it can be tapped for mana in response to the destruction spell (if it is not already tapped)
< 1448162783 220952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if there was an effect that said that mana is emptied from the mana pool each time something resolves?
< 1448162815 164696 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, because you don't get priority until your opponent has already paid it.
< 1448162903 844445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, the trigger just would go on the stack, I think
< 1448162926 635612 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think that would be a mandatory infinite loop, because it would trigger every time it resolves.
< 1448162940 272446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it not be a triggered ability, I guess.
< 1448162944 45628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would trigger itself too clearly
< 1448162954 172962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, such as a replacement effect I suppose?
< 1448162980 494718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could use an intervening if. "Whenever a spell or ability resolves, if any player has mana in his or her mana pool, ..."
< 1448163053 386049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose that can be another way
< 1448163200 4600 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, what did I learn today? For the ability "Chameleon Colossus gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is its power", X is determined when the ability resolves and that number persists.
< 1448163223 541142 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the other game rule questions I got wrong were due to mistakes.
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< 1448163407 247987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which questions?
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< 1448164401 590626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which size do you play
< 1448164403 554479 :haavardp!freebsd@haavard.me NICK :haavard
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< 1448164428 386289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Esowiki201529A/test link14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45592 5* 03103.3.98.227 5* (+9432) 10Created page with "           [[网站首页]]       [[关于我们]]       [[新闻中心]]       [[产品展示]]       [[在线留言]]       [[联系我们]]                   栏目分类  ..."
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< 1448164572 253154 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizzicato
< 1448164689 107297 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 15 x 12, size 8
< 1448164702 426623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1448164704 802502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that?
< 1448164714 321871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Esowiki201529A/test link14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45593&oldid=45592 5* 03103.3.98.227 5* (+619) 10
< 1448164788 762391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it's in the type menu (for the standalone version, anyway, but i recall the online games have similar selections
< 1448164806 757819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a Custom option
< 1448164817 609884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the online game has 15x12, size 10
< 1448164822 938605 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1448164825 452860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 10x8, size 8
< 1448164826 865165 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i meant 10
< 1448164833 581759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1448164848 801393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 15 * 12 `mod` 8
< 1448164851 2134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4
< 1448164854 47233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY NOT
< 1448164897 128321 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a version where you have two different region sizes...
< 1448164903 611383 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448165041 849907 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe instead of fucking about with fread fseek ftell and fwrite I should use mmap
< 1448165084 595972 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc theres a speed increase with mmap anyway
< 1448165094 430161 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: int-e was doing 18 x 16, size 12
< 1448165108 408261 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and 10 x 10, size 50
< 1448165122 676867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only now realized what was weird about that one

< 1448165152 98612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the weird thing that you have two regions or something else
< 1448165157 448450 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1448165173 572669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh
< 1448165186 151829 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should try that and see how it works

< 1448165188 318950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, that wasn't a very good question
< 1448165213 45181 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but first i must finish this one...
< 1448165273 559794 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 3 regions left but they're a bit evil
< 1448165289 874252 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i'm missing something obvious as usual
< 1448165302 738856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much backtracking do you need for this game
< 1448165310 996683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :backtracking is scow
< 1448165316 873869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never backtrack unless i make an error
< 1448165322 56304 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not so far, anyway
< 1448165374 192978 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words i haven't needed it yet
< 1448165425 745684 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course, i missed that those big open spaces were bordering
< 1448165490 599433 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there were actually 4 regions left, i misestimated
< 1448165524 37666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finished
< 1448165564 675066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to the 2 region one.  lots of 0s...
< 1448165728 485812 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448165831 424125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was pretty easy
< 1448166593 778168 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448166657 936351 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ⁅⁆ would be good for mathematical expressions?
< 1448167313 316338 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm defining 𝔹 as the set of booleans
< 1448167669 287169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1448167820 706232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of need a set (well, class) marker to denote the surreals...
< 1448168418 85516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use 𝕀 for the pure imaginaries
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< 1448168980 202583 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm adding an abstract builtin type "DIM" to Kastor that expresses a space, for example, the dimensions of a matrix
< 1448169164 591838 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks NICK :Hoolootwo
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< 1448170201 537484 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've defined the operator ×, which accepts two integers (or another DIM and an integer, or two DIMs) and produces a DIM of the size m×n. You can, for example, raise an abstract set to the power of a DIM to get the matrix type
< 1448170240 473079 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird and complicated
< 1448170668 265074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Generalizing modular arithmetic to ℂ (or more likely, the Gaussian integers) could be interesting
< 1448171042 531398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :‽ operator. Wonder what I should make it do.
< 1448171169 254256 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁘ ⁙ ⁚ ⁛ ⁝ ⁞ ⸪ ⸫ ⸬ ⸭ operators as well, I suppose
< 1448171482 390838 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should make ™ a postfix operator xD
< 1448171798 346554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Since no one's answering, I'm dragging you into this.
< 1448171919 2885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of something weird the syntax of Kastor allows you to do. \ followed by a name is the "anonymize" operator (though it's not so much an operator as a syntactic element, unless I change my mind); it takes a name and converts it to an anonymous name. Consider the expression "x = \x". That's valid Kastor.
< 1448172066 804280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TM operator14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45594 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+252) 10Created Page
< 1448172127 528159 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you, oerjan?
< 1448172181 479591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just found neoletters is 1000000% easier to read if set to size 12, but a bit big)
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< 1448172210 827888 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No?
< 1448172226 981917 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia?
< 1448172284 455203 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps the TM operator should just delete the variable it is applied to and return its value)
< 1448173212 422027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented the "traitor scheming" variant of the Magic: the Gathering archenemy game.
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< 1448173486 947398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of game could be draft that includes planes
< 1448173582 275730 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is meant for size 12 = 16 pixels 
< 1448173615 57622 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK
< 1448173618 513562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense.
< 1448173626 736527 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use a size that isn't a multiple of 16 pixels it won't look good at all
< 1448173646 205156 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That makes sense now.
< 1448173805 27265 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying thing is on mac sixe 16 is the same size as 12 is on windows and linux
< 1448173904 689529 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for mac, 1px = 1pt while on windows 1px = 0.75pt
< 1448173977 367929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i played a 10x10/50 game and it was perfectly divided with a straight line in the middle
< 1448173980 369772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that unusual?
< 1448174287 538871 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my font looks horrible at 8 pt
< 1448174306 159598 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know, i've only played the one
< 1448174400 217909 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :size 6 is hard to read, but better than 8
< 1448174487 531116 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :size 9 is... meh
< 1448174500 739659 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should put this info on my page
< 1448174737 390021 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there
< 1448174789 19887 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that the phrase "best mathematical properties" is used on Wiki's page on numbers
< 1448174817 702721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universal properties are the best.
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< 1448180030 55196 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I'm trying to include blackboard bold digits in Arithmetic of the Functia, but it looks like TeX doesn't allow that because Donald Knuth and the AMS are both assholes
< 1448180064 493023 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does just including the builtin symbols work
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< 1448180757 826923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make your own font with METAFONT.
< 1448180763 31891 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nuuuuuuuuuu
< 1448180779 359944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just give up and I'm going to recommend people not use blackboard bold xD
< 1448180786 561850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the existing ones to see how it work and then make the font based on that one.
< 1448180790 402345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a nice idea, but it would only really serve to confuse in the end
< 1448180824 228064 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For the Arithmetic of the Functia, I figured that we can treat numbers as functions
< 1448180849 100484 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, a number n can be treated as a function with one argument x that is defined as n*x
< 1448180860 295175 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes sense given the syntax 5(x) and the like
< 1448180876 182876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX allows you to use any font you want to as long as metrics in TFM format are available. (Clearly you will need glyphs as well, although TeX doesn't care about glyphs.)
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< 1448181305 861962 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Great. Now that I've defined that numbers our functions, along with dealing with allowing functions to be raised to the power of a number ( f**2(x)=f(f(x)) ), I think I need to define f**g and similar things xD
< 1448181329 715124 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/our/are/
< 1448181334 652491 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any ideas?
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< 1448181585 244482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45595&oldid=45585 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-10) 10/* Python 2 */ Oops how did that bug slip by.
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< 1448192175 919279 :vjoba!~quassel@ip-89-177-135-104.net.upcbroadband.cz PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávání. Odkudkoliv."
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< 1448195155 349774 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/tcl-not  stallman on tcl
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< 1448202563 380 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1448205591 635760 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing
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< 1448207238 330602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1448207259 337138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no taneb
< 1448207266 684875 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww
< 1448207385 345783 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] The idea behind Church numerals is that if C_n is the numeral for n, then C_n(f) is f**n. If you wanted to do this particular generalization, f**g would simply be g(f).
< 1448207385 488068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448207844 530162 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no no, "no" means "hi", so Phantom_Hoover was greeting you.
< 1448208025 581551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :noswett
< 1448208046 879549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanob
< 1448208357 93784 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellambdabot!
< 1448208423 601314 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5^3)
< 1448208425 826918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 125
< 1448208430 717138 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1448208438 317424 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 xor 3)
< 1448208439 857564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Could not deduce (Num a1)
< 1448208439 999793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     from the context (Num a2, Num ((a -> a -> a) -> a2 -> t), Bits a)
< 1448208439 999855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       bound by the inferred type for ‘e_153’:
< 1448208475 256989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t xor
< 1448208476 559940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> a -> a
< 1448208543 284545 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 `xor` 3
< 1448208545 114730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6
< 1448208567 196773 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that magic syntac
< 1448208596 113278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that magic?
< 1448208628 418376 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it determines that some operators are operators just because they are, while others must be surrounded by ``
< 1448208648 914226 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 `^` 3)
< 1448208661 144670 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 `^` 3)
< 1448208663 153107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:5: parse error on input ‘^’
< 1448208675 1571 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck you haskell
< 1448208693 891213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything starting with a letter is a function
< 1448208699 524065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy as that
< 1448208729 670734 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about arguments?
< 1448208765 857580 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (^ 3 5)
< 1448208767 498370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Could not deduce (Integral b0) arising from a use of ‘^’
< 1448208767 640855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     from the context (Num a)
< 1448208767 640910 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       bound by the inferred type of it :: Num a => a -> a
< 1448208784 393195 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`^` 3 5)
< 1448208786 59206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: parse error on input ‘^’
< 1448208820 125779 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does not start with a letter, therefore ^ is an operator and needs infix notation
< 1448208844 964445 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(operator) is a function and `function` is an operator
< 1448208874 44092 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 `(^)` 3) 
< 1448208887 735742 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 `(^)` 3) 
< 1448208889 370006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:5: parse error on input ‘(’
< 1448208890 483285 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me some $$, and I can make these parentheses... disappear!
< 1448208946 704907 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((`xor`) 5 3) 
< 1448208948 280806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: parse error on input ‘)’
< 1448208953 61991 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff made of letters is a function, stuff made of symbols is an operator.
< 1448208979 797 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use `` on stuff made of letters and () on stuff made of symbols, but you can't combine the two... I guess.
< 1448209232 908727 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff I learned. Copiable values are generally the values printed on the card; additional effects don't matter. If two identical replacement effects are trying to modify what happens to an object, the object's controller chooses which one wins. Also some complicated damage replacement thing.
< 1448209314 116554 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you learning this by going over the rules, or by poring over official tournament game transcripts or what?
< 1448209332 6894 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By taking practice rules exams and looking at the ones I got wrong.
< 1448209350 575763 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shock says: "If a source would deal damage to a creature or player, it deals double that damage to that creature or player instead." That's a replacement effect. There's also a replacement effect allowing the controller to redirect damage from a player to a planeswalker.
< 1448209367 675370 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The affected player chooses which replacement effect is applied first, in this case.
< 1448209430 448104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, M:tG talk?
< 1448209481 884685 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448209543 670462 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup.
< 1448209554 175195 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny thing about that neural net I've been training on #esoteric logs...
< 1448209586 802259 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has learned that we frequently say "Magic: the [capitalized word]". It hasn't learned that that word is always "Gathering".
< 1448209594 359987 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: functions are prefix by default, operators infix by default. `·` turns a function into infix, (·) turns an operator into prefix. that's all there is to it, really  (where 'function' means identifier consisting of letters & digits, 'operator' means identifier consisting of symbols)
< 1448209623 192571 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the neural net keeps producing stuff like "Magic: the Computer" and "Magic: the Imagination" and whatnot.
< 1448209698 479485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [xor 5 3, 5 `xor` 3, (^) 5 3, 5 ^ 3]
< 1448209700 144668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [6,6,125,125]
< 1448209715 42481 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks it's rather neat

< 1448209875 704274 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comes there is so few hearthstone talk here
< 1448209900 370933 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question.
< 1448209904 683654 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, about Hearthstone.
< 1448209909 538857 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those solo adventures like, anyway?
< 1448209924 248685 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they don't offer any kind of free trial for those.
< 1448209953 209787 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, but there's a shitload of youtube videos
< 1448209969 901532 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :younwant to purchase them sooner or later anyways
< 1448209974 529305 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right.
< 1448209999 837019 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are trying reno cobtrol shamans
< 1448210011 216057 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretry curious on how that will turn out
< 1448210029 719345 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reno?
< 1448210082 398832 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reno jackson is a new card. "if you don't have any card twice left in your deck, fully heal your hero"
< 1448210199 9065 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's a card you probably wouldn't see in MTG.
< 1448210209 412813 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448210231 892260 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you run out of cards in your deck?
< 1448210268 723590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the first attempt to draw you lose one life
< 1448210277 314814 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the second, you lose second life
< 1448210286 719166 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat until death occurs
< 1448210329 82535 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is actually a viable strategy to make your opponent draw as much as possible
< 1448210334 776336 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second time you lose 2, to clarify
< 1448210343 145444 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yeah
< 1448210344 326943 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the rate at which you lose life accelerates
< 1448210369 400690 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :said strategy is known as milling
< 1448210395 104221 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fought a rogue mill deck once, it was awful :(
< 1448210413 243574 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mill druids are way nastier
< 1448210435 189330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. I only played hearthstone for a bit, got tired of it
< 1448210436 719855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :druids zave a card that says "destroy an enemy minion. your opponent draws a card"
< 1448210469 825842 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i addition to those nasty murlocs that make you draw two cards
< 1448210489 19157 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448210543 49387 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448210806 39358 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1448210929 829041 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that game a lot. the rules are simple, yet the game is challenging
< 1448210942 122943 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's an android app
< 1448211234 584366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when did they errata Daru Stinger back to not a human?
< 1448211257 208076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check yawgatog
< 1448211272 366828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it became a human at Lorwyn, as I expected
< 1448211299 192279 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: FRF
< 1448211311 986666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was reverted because of the interaction with amplify
< 1448211316 740083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1448211323 476206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1448211330 398559 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were fast to bisect
< 1448211336 991952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's at FRF
< 1448211340 54189 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just googled "daru stinger update bulletin"
< 1448211354 943405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now my Daru Stingers are worthless
< 1448211361 659525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can no longer use them with clerics
< 1448211379 208121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite worthless, mind you, because I have made decks with practically nothing but soliders
< 1448211383 627968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but almost worthless
< 1448211397 898136 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no trading in Hearthstone, right?
< 1448211468 24271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have missed that update somehow. I usually try to read the update bulletins.
< 1448211796 756133 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: indeed
< 1448211831 677970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448211851 195594 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they say it's to avoid unfair trades as well as creating an in-game economy, but I think it's just to encourage people to buy packs for real money
< 1448211887 683077 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448212702 892142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what… why is Benevolent Unicorn's ability phrased like that? Does it get around Everlasting Torment?
< 1448213546 691398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448214216 792152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, when I browse my collection I understand why I like to play white so much. I have a ton of good white cards.
< 1448214260 567683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should buy good black and blue cards so I can build better decks of those too.
< 1448214281 167020 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!
< 1448214432 824197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, with "Enchant Creature" and "Enchantment Creature" both appearing on the type line, it's not so easy to quickly separate creature cards from non-creature cards anymore. I have to be careful.
< 1448214444 783728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily I have almost no Enchantment Creatures … yet
< 1448214618 384779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: imagine how confusing it would be if enchant meant creature
< 1448214978 799724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but "Summon" and "Summon Creature" mean creature
< 1448214987 30665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also try to play multicolors
< 1448215003 839477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, I do
< 1448215035 552680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :works well for some decks
< 1448215080 390863 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jagefymwpvsnludg JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448215534 573031 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a cords type was Creature - Enchanter
< 1448215816 48004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: M:tG has no Sorcerers
< 1448215834 43448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, it does have sorcerers, by name
< 1448215869 333344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have type Wizard or some other creature type
< 1448215887 805813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there are enchanters and enchantresses by name
< 1448215956 206639 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jagefymwpvsnludg QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!
< 1448216050 989886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no landers though
< 1448216094 110622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no instanters under that name, although Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir is one
< 1448216374 605338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion of improving rules of Magic: the Gathering, much is to make it more mathematically elegant. But I have a few others too
< 1448216430 335466 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't have Enchant Creature on the type line any more, do they?
< 1448216610 564633 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1448216675 693583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct it doesn't.
< 1448216694 35048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no "enchant" type; "enchant" is a keyword ability.
< 1448216940 403965 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hqactsqpdmzizswg JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448216978 807454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: they don't, but we don't have the guys from 1984 who replace the printed cards
< 1448217292 570832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make deck of all five colours
< 1448217332 115265 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have such a deck, but I do have a four-colored deck. I was thinking of modifying it to three colors though, but I'm not sure that's what I'll do.
< 1448217338 785935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Spirit-Arcane deck
< 1448217410 575901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made up your own cards?
< 1448217423 490177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made up cube for cube draft?
< 1448217677 146534 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://cosmic.mearie.org/tmp/font-sample I'm trying something like this
< 1448217718 698334 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my own bitmap font for a long time (not in general use but for occasional uses), but probably it is the first time I'm seriously trying to extend that
< 1448217884 942715 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448217919 791279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no cube, and only very few own cards
< 1448217948 219053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: great, another bitmap font maker on esoteric
< 1448218010 612344 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: whoa, awesome!
< 1448218140 130371 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are those images?
< 1448218173 254154 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, they're inline SVG's!
< 1448218174 619104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVG, huh. Nice, except for the lack of hinting.
< 1448218218 221222 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...except that bitmap fonts aren't hinted)
< 1448218260 513918 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the initial testing (I really don't know how to make a TTF/OTF font :)
< 1448218271 37942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try FontForge
< 1448218274 206694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitmap fonts don't need hinted. However if something else is compiled into a bitmap font then hints should be used. (It is possible to do this with METAFONT)
< 1448218291 305046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I never made the cube either, but I made many cards; what card you make up?
< 1448218422 982136 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448218462 158321 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1448218708 231564 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I made an enchantment that gives reverse protection, that is, everything else gets protection from the enchanted permanent. I don't remember the details, but it must cost {1U}.
< 1448218735 395111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, blue doesn't normally get protection cards.
< 1448218930 135514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even recently I made up some more cards. One such card is: You can take two cards from your sideboard, opponent forces you to ante one of them, the other one is placed on top of your library.
< 1448218988 233024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another card is: Look in opponent's sideboard for a nonbasic card, if you find one then exile top two cards of opponent's library and put the found card on top of their library.
< 1448219045 933897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be good in Limited, because they may have a few cards of the wrong color in their sideboard.
< 1448219258 176278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's even better in a Conspiracy draft if you find a Conspiracy in the sideboard, although those are unlikely to occur in the sideboard
< 1448219292 188811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually my card does specifically say "traditional nonbasic nonconspiracy card", so you can't choose one of those.
< 1448219327 966510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did think of that!)
< 1448219713 666832 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448219904 395222 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1448220168 279274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you designed any good creatures for {B}? I suffer from a lack of good creatures costing {B}. I should buy some.
< 1448220234 188952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have cards costing {B} but no creatures.
< 1448220251 575055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, there are lots of good instants and sorceries for {B}
< 1448220253 789220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can suggest something I will add it though.
< 1448220275 935026 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deathmark, Disfigure, etc
< 1448220301 315119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't design a good creature for {B} because I have to see examples for that first, and there's too few
< 1448220405 663566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's a dark twin of Child of Thorns called Fume Spitter. I need that. I have an irrational liking of Child of Thorns, despite that it's not a really good creature.
< 1448220416 69516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name, subtype, power/toughness, and special abilities must be chosen. (You can optionally provide notes and/or flavor text which I will also add to my file.) Probably it could be 1/1 and have one special ability but what kind? I don't know!
< 1448220458 357752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with regeneration (at what cost?)
< 1448220483 504102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need Diregraf Ghoul too
< 1448220501 181971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably that vampire
< 1448220520 309504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guul Draz Vampire
< 1448220607 61472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see. Plague Beetle and Prickly Boggart can't hurt too.
< 1448220656 143782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I did design such card, you can't buy it; you would have to proxy it, and you need to agree to opponent what cards and other deck construction rules are legal; if you are making both decks by yourself this is less important but you should still show both decks to opponent to see how the game is being played, and switch deck afterward. And if you want to use proxies it is recommend to use card sleeves too.
< 1448220665 374655 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1448220740 129849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My own policy would be that if you wish to proxy you must write the full Oracle text of the card you wish to proxy; simply writing the name of the card isn't sufficient.)
< 1448220755 679091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Smolder Initiate is a good one, I should buy that
< 1448220765 715825 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the light twin 
< 1448220781 383425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the dark one is better of course
< 1448220826 395311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tormented Soul... nice, I need that
< 1448220868 67045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me list the uncommons
< 1448220953 214553 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnarled Scarhide seems reasonable
< 1448220991 578299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mardu Shadowspear is nice too
< 1448221192 487367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they don't print many nice creatures for {B}. no wonder I have so few.
< 1448221616 858222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore make up such a card.
< 1448221841 70667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this way:   1/1 ;; {B}, Discard a card: Regenerate ~.   Is that OK or something should be made difference?
< 1448222247 847660 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hqactsqpdmzizswg QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1448222770 653450 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo QUIT :Changing host
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< 1448223584 258824 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!
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< 1448225552 541610 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448226916 276360 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo QUIT :Changing host
< 1448226916 418876 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1448226924 723312 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448227135 659663 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448227201 77928 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1448227440 531510 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nyuvoihsssvgypzf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448227443 221189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at DVIPBM http://zzo38computer.org/prog/dvipbm.zip I have not yet added documentation and there are still some features I intend to add, but it does work now as is; I have used it with foo2zjs to print stuff!
< 1448227612 620278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell me if you have the suggestion or other question or complaint
< 1448227760 333715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe currently it is only for Linux, although the only Linux-specific code is in popen_noshell.c so if you can write an implementation of that for other systems then you can probably use it on other systems too.
< 1448228621 206070 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/J_Arcane/status/668545293164683264
< 1448229052 90644 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1448230214 496002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448231036 374678 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448231096 636688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448231332 597336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of Magic: the Gathering cards I invented includes some strange thing that they have not done before, even more strange than some stuff in Time Spiral block
< 1448231458 639680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the strangest?
< 1448231498 784055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe that artifact that triggers in the cleanup step and does nothing?
< 1448231872 34835 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448232081 735947 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1448232325 840238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the text of that one?
< 1448232621 895980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dunno, find it in http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt
< 1448232845 975413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny Shard?
< 1448232870 846131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn zzo38cards/http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt
< 1448232874 943959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «zzo38cards»
< 1448232928 897743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That also has Thin Air.
< 1448232999 972000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that
< 1448233027 688091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if that's the strangest card. zzo38 had designed quite a few strange cards.
< 1448233255 537733 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1448234538 428263 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1448235143 684946 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448235395 91935 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] 
< 1448235405 521024 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He\\oren\
< 1448235586 754634 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1448235607 876948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never told me why you are a computer
< 1448235614 832705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor why you create so many new pages
< 1448235847 318191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The computer is because I had an HP when I created my first online account, and didn't want to forget my username
< 1448235867 759003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1 is because I wasn't feeling creative when I found that hppavilion was taken as a Minecraft username
< 1448235885 841102 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The square brackets are because it looks like python and this is a programming channel
< 1448235907 749154 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the pages are because of some deep psychological flaw or something I am incapable of understanding
< 1448235916 411601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first laptop computer was an HP Pavilion.
< 1448235918 670168 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448235932 449379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also been at the HP Pavilion building in San Jose. But it looks like it's been renamed since then.
< 1448235941 327116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I was only near that building, not in it.
< 1448235944 999172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's not even a building.
< 1448235957 593383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a pavilion
< 1448235969 417652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's an indoor arena.
< 1448235974 932077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For hockey?
< 1448235977 222519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1448235989 12852 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call those pavilions sometimes
< 1448236037 688597 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448236043 458679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently HP paid >$3 million/year to name the place after hppavilion[1].
< 1448236064 914279 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably.
< 1448236081 13704 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something people would do based on me.
< 1448236086 804438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is good to know
< 1448236093 687224 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add it to the wisdom shachaf
< 1448236097 367281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf
< 1448236101 824190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nachaf
< 1448236123 723549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE I'LL DO IT
< 1448236139 682136 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448236188 663292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hppavilion[1]/HP pays $3.5m a year to name an arena in San Jose after him.
< 1448236191 631361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hppavilion[1]»
< 1448236205 210678 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÁAAAAAAAAAA!
< 1448236208 118443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1448236224 402454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLOILYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
< 1448236241 823612 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. you are now fit to be wisdommed.
< 1448236309 66921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But they stopped doing it in 2013.
< 1448236327 261638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know how to change pays to paid
< 1448236336 665501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you expert eoughto edit wisdom
< 1448236359 946832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's less than $3.1 million.
< 1448236370 895535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that it's less than $3.5 million.
< 1448236375 883584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that part doesn't have to be exact
< 1448236380 561366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's $3.1 or $3.25 or $3.35 or something.
< 1448236392 569356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE GET APPROXIMATION
< 1448236400 400175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just say $3
< 1448236408 729645 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1448236410 639335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could
< 1448236415 334346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i knew enough to edit it
< 1448236436 448499 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/pays/paid/' wisdom/hppavilion[1]
< 1448236437 409064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448236462 961886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hokay!
< 1448236520 222524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's new
< 1448236625 528177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely drained. did some volunteering at a boardgaming salon, fsvo some.
< 1448236648 323667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn salon
< 1448236649 871986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "salon" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1448236650 14255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :salon
< 1448236650 14339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: gallery where works of art can be displayed
< 1448236650 14363 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    2: a shop where hairdressers and beauticians work [syn: {salon},
< 1448236650 14386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       {beauty salon}, {beauty parlor}, {beauty parlour}, {beauty
< 1448236651 873931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       shop}]
< 1448236653 876103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    3: elegant sitting room where guests are received
< 1448236662 705697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :animating special events, accueil, food, grilling panini, explaining games...
< 1448236681 681663 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "salon" is being used as a placeholder while I find a proper translation hth
< 1448236683 503423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try a french dictionary hth
< 1448236726 830587 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what games did you demo?
< 1448236733 397729 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exposition, exhibition, fair?
< 1448236754 333582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :convention?
< 1448236770 394370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :event?
< 1448236776 263584 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to say convention.
< 1448236776 500594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hebrew "salon" means "living room"
< 1448236785 110813 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "fair" is the closest.
< 1448236791 902499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough
< 1448236802 346264 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes looking for the frying pan

< 1448236810 39341 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common meaning of fr:salon: is en:"living room".
< 1448236817 785645 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends quintopia his mapole

< 1448236827 935249 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even remember what it looks like
< 1448236833 374503 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole
< 1448236834 490056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
< 1448236842 420142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapley and poley
< 1448236844 525381 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like =================================
< 1448236875 624101 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly, with a =====-_-´ bit for ærodynamism.
< 1448236893 628646 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf =======================(((j==
< 1448236902 432629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1448236903 862772 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, yesterday I animated Pingo Pingo, while today I did Zombie 15.
< 1448236909 153156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something may have happened to your mapole
< 1448236917 354871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully boily doesn't notice
< 1448236919 38816 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those were the special events)
< 1448236919 203978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a hand holding it
< 1448236926 97785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does animating mean
< 1448236930 519662 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm...
< 1448236931 749236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :DM?
< 1448236951 289430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i played a board game called shachaf of nottingjam a few weeks ago
< 1448236968 754285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1448236978 828515 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you invented that neologism
< 1448236981 678618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DUN GET IT
< 1448237007 384180 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat like a DM. setup, explanations, entertainment, catching thrown and shot game pieces...
< 1448237019 355200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha
< 1448237030 45704 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know either of those games
< 1448237039 452855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think there are WAY TOO MANY zombie games
< 1448237055 455367 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it happened that those two games had a timed soundtrack, so I had to play it on a speaker and stuff.
< 1448237056 805396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most zombie games are in the "way too many" category
< 1448237062 506025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's how zombies work?
< 1448237078 702361 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never heard of such games
< 1448237083 296212 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zombie 15 is incredible: you have 15 minutes to get through a scenario, without dying too much.
< 1448237100 208563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a gmae where you put a soundtrack on shuffle and it times itself
< 1448237148 783392 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this idea of a 15 minute game
< 1448237164 943928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because zombicide's "UP TO 6 HOURS" is not fun nono
< 1448237183 335287 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't play Zombicide with my friends. they don't let me :/
< 1448237204 805630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't because i will hate everyone if i do.
< 1448237223 119241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY ARE YOU TAKING SO LONG TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO JUST DO SOMETHING LETS FINISH THIS DAMN GAME
< 1448237235 723646 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't know that i've ever seen anyone lose.
< 1448237267 889493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I add challenge to the game ^^
< 1448237283 602026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you play chaotic neutral
< 1448237309 303686 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup!
< 1448237335 879600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might play with you then. people take it way too seriously
< 1448237355 682026 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a coop has to be dramatic.
< 1448237371 286469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only one I play full lawful good is Red November, because fungot is it hard.
< 1448237380 591582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
< 1448237389 216787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please :D
< 1448237472 285725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about XCOM.
< 1448237474 904550 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :
< 1448237495 560614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a sad day in fungotville
< 1448237531 553400 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never XCOMmed.
< 1448237563 315329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how pooched are you
< 1448237620 998094 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my feet are pooched. I saw a mastiff today. some passerbys at the event had dogs.
< 1448237636 669402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any newfoundland pooches?
< 1448237708 902407 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. poodles, labradors, the aforementioned mastiff, but no newfie pooches.
< 1448237763 596041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mastiff not noticed them
< 1448237789 431560 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THWACK*
< 1448237847 944604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you like newfies anyway
< 1448237893 573886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1448237900 516377 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! i've now made a program that fixes all the bullshit that fontforge screws up when it generates my font!
< 1448237933 944488 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfcorrect.htm
< 1448238084 616525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1448238090 492300 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I still can't get chrome to display my font without blurring it
< 1448238133 127906 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to add more comments to this code
< 1448238160 844944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: motivate me
< 1448238187 697024 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: about?
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< 1448238382 27721 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, apparently my font doesn't work well with "DirectWrite", some new chrom font renedering algortihm
< 1448238436 398211 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrom renedering?
< 1448238471 274614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DirectWrite is a Windows thing.
< 1448238594 912240 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well only chrome uses it then
< 1448238608 408323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to reneder chroms
< 1448238636 240939 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on I'll screenshoot it
< 1448238830 116911 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/goddamnchrome.png
< 1448238845 306147 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, only chrome is blurry
< 1448238871 917600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my eyes. they are not happy.
< 1448238878 314746 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, only chrome, and only the white text on chrome
< 1448238913 338572 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blue text is not nearly as blurred
< 1448238947 817936 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox displays pixel-perfect with no blurring
< 1448238959 719738 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does my temrinal program
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< 1448240260 978186 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The U-FU-FU channel?
< 1448240335 773055 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :はい。羽不不
< 1448240407 646275 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :すみませんがちょっと違うと思います
< 1448240447 826975 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :雨符府でしょう
< 1448240497 466564 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it is a perfect timing for tsukkomi

< 1448240637 8632 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if chrome pays attention to embedded bitmaps in a ttf
< 1448240749 351280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :今睡眠のじかんになります
< 1448240758 528994 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :even god damn IE doesn't use this stupid directwrite bullshit
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< 1448241237 780529 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: NEWFOUNDLANDS!
< 1448241249 848378 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOO!
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< 1448242547 255639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel
< 1448243560 192131 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made some convenience pixel codes for marking pixels (rather than subpixels)
< 1448243594 100175 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that, there are now two codes for upper-left half-triangles, one filled in 1:1 scale and one empty.
< 1448243614 440633 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've updated font-sample.html to show both versions
< 1448243722 486085 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool
< 1448243748 944543 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FYI, I'm working with... a... plain text.
< 1448243905 911528 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/font.txt
< 1448243914 792717 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of crazy
< 1448243977 747597 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks very similar to the format that GNU unifont was made with
< 1448244060 756224 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have a subpixel support?
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< 1448245616 214933 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I dunno.
< 1448245792 156929 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :appently not, it uses only on (#) and off (-) for each pixel
< 1448246153 830787 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: my code has half triangles (/ \) and quad triangles (d b 9 P < > ^ v etc.) as well
< 1448246168 69347 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the smoother glyph in the large rendering
< 1448246197 310279 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, d b 9 P are for half triangles*
< 1448247137 772309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: do you have any sample text rendered with this?
< 1448247160 234961 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks neat
< 1448247336 435466 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do the "glyph X = Y" lines work? it looks like !'s get replaced with the Y glyph or something; is that it?
< 1448247361 444568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.. for colour purposes I suppose
< 1448247492 700315 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: combining glyphs. ! is a placeholder for hints, but I want to verify that ! is actually overwritten by other glyphs in the future.
< 1448247512 994538 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
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< 1448250211 9464 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added small glagolitic ⰰⰱⰲⰳⰴⰵⰶⰷⰸⰹⰺⰻⰼⰽⰾⰿⱀⱁⱂⱃⱄⱅⱆⱇⱈⱉⱊⱋⱌⱍⱎⱏⱐⱑⱒⱓⱔⱕⱖⱗⱘⱙⱚⱛⱜⱝⱞ
< 1448250883 208527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45596&oldid=45595 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-7) 10/* Python 2 */ More golfing!
< 1448251351 110269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a program can also be made that can convert such format that has the triangles and so on into TFM/PK as well (although TFM requires that metrics depend only on the low 8-bits of the character code, but PK supports up to 32-bit character codes); kerning and ligatures are also supported in this case. Other formats such as WalText2 possibly it would also be possible to make compiler into TFM/PK
< 1448251513 280769 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: your capital Y is one pixel too wide
< 1448251554 378233 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aware, the odd-width glyph is quite hard to deal with
< 1448251604 432394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your format have ligature/kerning?
< 1448251635 17982 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet.
< 1448251644 676585 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some design in mind
< 1448251750 90276 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overall aspect ratio is 8:16 which is the same as GNU unifont, but less than my font which is 9:16
< 1448251876 721032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My DVIPBM program does not need TeX or METAFONT at all. If you make your own typesetting software and/or font software, it can use that just fine. It will work with any resolution even with non-square pixels, and any paper size. And, if your printer driver does not support PBM, you can use ImageMagick or other software to conver it. I expect it to work just fine with troff although I have not tested this.
< 1448251954 100132 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :8:16 does have the advantage that double-width characters will be perfect squares at 16:16
< 1448251970 601336 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas mine are 18:16
< 1448251989 243144 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that is a good property
< 1448251992 911156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you have that advantage if you are trying to make square characters
< 1448252167 91445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45597&oldid=45596 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+2) 10/* Python 2 */ More golfing!
< 1448254057 904806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45598&oldid=41742 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-159) 10removed the languages that weren't actually related to Dimensions
< 1448256651 229284 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if I have only a teletype?
< 1448257555 621549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends what you are trying to do with it.
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< 1448264536 679159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 71
< 1448264537 486732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 71: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex
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< 1448265453 48809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45601&oldid=45597 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-3) 10/* Python 2 */ Moregolfy!
< 1448265491 288067 :por!~user@c-73-161-75-216.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was wisdom.pdf created with latex?
< 1448265528 128319 :por!~user@c-73-161-75-216.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops spoke too soon! i just read that is was.
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< 1448265952 612393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so.
< 1448266085 202892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, level20.dvi was created with Plain TeX.
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< 1448266119 964221 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY UPPERCASE Plain
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< 1448266218 222703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I think often (not always) is written like that
< 1448266755 617402 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nyuvoihsssvgypzf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1448267096 797942 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1448267296 298026 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-228-111.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving...
< 1448267334 110315 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vmhkwopkpvennbjt JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448267353 161780 :por!~user@c-73-161-75-216.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: level20.dvi?
< 1448267437 537492 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448267497 816915 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448268099 28043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just updated it a few minutes ago even. It is  http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.dvi  and the source-codes also available, with level20.tex in same directory. There is the notice of updating on this IRC
< 1448268143 611748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote that as well as the macro package to go with it (which I also wrote, and is also available in the same directory). They are all public domain.
< 1448268207 468893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you look at all of the logs, you can see a lot of stuff being discussing in this IRC.
< 1448268838 350345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use TeX for anything?
< 1448269885 604828 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448270183 705469 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1448270350 535950 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1448270664 147487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45602&oldid=37783 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-4) 10/* Examples */ bugfix
< 1448270674 668603 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448270861 107171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45603&oldid=45602 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Examples */ bugfix
< 1448270916 144927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45604&oldid=45603 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+4) 10Undo revision 45602 by [[Special:Contributions/Quintopia|Quintopia]] ([[User talk:Quintopia|talk]])
< 1448270939 494561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45605&oldid=45604 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10Undo revision 45603 by [[Special:Contributions/Quintopia|Quintopia]] ([[User talk:Quintopia|talk]])
< 1448271268 849591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45606&oldid=45605 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+2252) 10implementation
< 1448271409 473157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Platts14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45607&oldid=45606 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+58) 10/* Syntax */ Expanded allowed symbols to match implementation
< 1448272818 670569 :por!~user@c-73-161-75-216.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1448274618 944410 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1448274619 86954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1448274781 45024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does "Consume Spirit" say "Spend only black mana on X." rather than "Spend only black mana on {X}."? In both the oracle text and the M12 printed text.
< 1448274862 128941 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the M12 version has new flavor text, from Sorin, compared to the 10E version I have.
< 1448274938 411199 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 6237
< 1448274941 800092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file 'wisdom/hppavilion[1]'
< 1448274970 685370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :general principle: if you change a wisdom without checking if there is one there first, i may revert it hth
< 1448274984 480332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i may still do it if you do, but less likely.)
< 1448275029 275410 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1]
< 1448275030 548329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe.
< 1448275056 14683 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/^/zzo38cards are at /' wisdom/zzo38cards
< 1448275058 431584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275063 428855 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38card
< 1448275064 648595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38card? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275080 834122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/zzo38card{s,}
< 1448275083 579026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275110 242014 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if your wisdom is not a complete sentence i may edit it.
< 1448275145 812600 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38card
< 1448275147 30096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38cards are at http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt
< 1448275159 911538 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1448275161 378115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentlebeing/A gentlebeing is a gender and species neutral gentleman.
< 1448275196 278937 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/vi
< 1448275198 694901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275235 863688 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like small, domain-specific languages like lifthrasiir's text-based font description language up there
< 1448275256 275916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'imperative language'
< 1448275258 492154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275261 306015 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1448275320 517170 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/e/E/' wisdom/erudecorp
< 1448275322 826220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275383 483282 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '' >>wisdom/'imperative language'
< 1448275386 2130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275412 621818 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1448275413 983909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :precious/precious? That doesn't ring a bell. ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275439 623377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 404
< 1448275440 441010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :404? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275447 812729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 1337
< 1448275448 839523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275455 970471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 65535
< 1448275456 843454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :65535? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275519 964611 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!leet hm was this it
< 1448275547 231429 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/l*t
< 1448275548 132728 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list \ bin/llist
< 1448275556 792808 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls interp/l*t
< 1448275557 669750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access interp/l*t: No such file or directory
< 1448275561 326593 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls interps/l*t
< 1448275562 339414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access interps/l*t: No such file or directory
< 1448275565 991823 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1448275611 77854 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet hm was this it
< 1448275611 223254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :H/\/\ \/\/As +|-|iz0rz I+
< 1448275611 768186 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 1337 15 50 905
< 1448275614 376252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '1337': 1337 15 50 905
< 1448275651 930887 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ah
< 1448275678 787683 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some nonexistent command that occasionally gets corrected into @leet, but I forget what it was
< 1448275701 621488 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that always gets corrected, but that people occasionally attempt
< 1448275716 284763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you think I should refactor this code
< 1448275716 464902 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hey pitecus and jivera: orbit and twobit are perfect for that.
< 1448275732 512577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a jivera? is that like a zubera?
< 1448275732 654976 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: run the scheme system copies the expression for later
< 1448275738 67377 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you should refactor your code into urbit
< 1448275742 766051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that might work. thanks, fungot.
< 1448275743 123914 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: modulo 9, 9 is a free smalltalk. unfortunately, the worst amiga game i've seen it already, though; we've got both a profiler and a fnord fnord fnord x 2 y
< 1448275765 461068 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 9
< 1448275766 206869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448275772 492928 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 9 is a free smalltalk
< 1448275784 204501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '9': 9 is a free smalltalk
< 1448275847 907965 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/9
< 1448275849 841601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1448275899 973305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen FireFly 
< 1448275900 115774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIrEf|Y
< 1448275903 220448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one.
< 1448275904 426006 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
< 1448275907 427795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that aws the one
< 1448275927 883880 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it briefly existed again some months ago
< 1448275934 690012 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but int-e disabled it again.
< 1448275938 887443 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448276019 913003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems I missed more than one M:tG rules update bulletins. I'll have to go back to reread them carefully.
< 1448276092 523774 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I'm not a fan of 6-dot braille not being consistent with 8-dot braille.. in part because I like to abuse braille as pixels, but also because I imagine it'd be bad for actual braille lettering
< 1448276148 488800 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/hppavilion[1]
< 1448276149 608368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hppavilion1
< 1448276192 409386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/hpp*
< 1448276193 649447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hppavilion1 \ wisdom/hppavilion[1]
< 1448276216 61985 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion(1)
< 1448276217 19755 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion(1)? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276228 784548 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rfw hhppavilion(1)
< 1448276229 494397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rfw: not found
< 1448276393 676034 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1
< 1448276394 881774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed
< 1448276403 584581 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, he has two
< 1448276410 698623 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is better
< 1448276490 822208 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering why boily's edit did nothing.
< 1448276575 600523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion
< 1448276576 442314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276593 466060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan
< 1448276594 746551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience.
< 1448276600 514860 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan
< 1448276601 592688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers.
< 1448276645 55612 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's twice the amount of wisdom I have
< 1448276657 728617 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1448276658 552864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zaphod
< 1448276659 632087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zaphod? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276661 259043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beeblebrox
< 1448276662 493356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeblebrox? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276666 99966 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't even fun wisdom :(
< 1448276670 401448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zidane
< 1448276671 508009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zidane? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276673 277552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly 
< 1448276674 442103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon.
< 1448276680 658633 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Effilry
< 1448276681 708587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effilry? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276698 697331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Örjan
< 1448276698 920383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, someone remembered my altnick
< 1448276699 692652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Örjan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276883 291239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Effilry is eemnoos how ahs got it all deorst otu.
< 1448276886 101731 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'effilry': Effilry is eemnoos how ahs got it all deorst otu.
< 1448276922 748912 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1448276934 585751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg
< 1448276935 628650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276937 929891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? m:tg
< 1448276938 926376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m:tg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276947 724116 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/ma*
< 1448276948 838660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/macabre \ wisdom/madness \ wisdom/magic \ wisdom/mapole \ wisdom/marmite \ wisdom/mathematimu \ wisdom/maths \ wisdom/mauke \ wisdom/mauris \ wisdom/maybe
< 1448276953 515202 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? magic
< 1448276954 614548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic was in you all along.
< 1448276968 909097 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gathering
< 1448276969 838772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gathering? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276972 513702 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve of this wisdom
< 1448276974 988314 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the
< 1448276976 183580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure
< 1448276981 324853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicorn
< 1448276982 200270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276983 980966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicorns
< 1448276985 83739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorns? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276985 940855 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tea
< 1448276986 960860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tea? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276988 813219 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bear
< 1448276989 998562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448276994 449164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rainbow
< 1448276995 428663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainbow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277001 530697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sun
< 1448277002 694810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277006 471054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? daystar
< 1448277007 694166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daystar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277008 448487 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mauke
< 1448277009 607893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke is a Master Archer. Caution! He can shoot your PRIVMSG with creative arrows!
< 1448277074 15818 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mathematimu
< 1448277075 117045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mathematimu is a quantum of mathematics. If you observe it, its codepoint can change.
< 1448277078 253248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The Daystar is an unscientific myth of a bright orb glowing in the sky outside only at the times you're in your office.
< 1448277081 518104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'daystar': The Daystar is an unscientific myth of a bright orb glowing in the sky outside only at the times you're in your office.
< 1448277146 549962 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Rainbows are spectral creatures said to be powered by the Daystar.
< 1448277149 476916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rainbow': Rainbows are spectral creatures said to be powered by the Daystar.
< 1448277159 149015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ipu
< 1448277160 186860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipu? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277167 116742 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sun
< 1448277167 347763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hna
< 1448277168 178701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277168 431974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hna? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277169 322091 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? madness
< 1448277170 407921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness lies thataway.
< 1448277205 893132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: right, for that we need a bot that can list entries from the comprehensive rules and oracle
< 1448277273 824335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? russell's teapot
< 1448277274 814182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russell's teapot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1448277295 166579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn IPU is an invisible pink unicorn.
< 1448277297 880264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ipu': IPU is an invisible pink unicorn.
< 1448277332 23458 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448277476 541466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn russell's teapot/Russell's Teapot / Short and stout / Orbits near Mars / Or thereabout.
< 1448277478 596919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «russell's teapot»
< 1448277567 326003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you see us/Let us know/If you don't/What does that show?
< 1448277585 847377 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh good one
< 1448277623 718684 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPU is an incredibly pompous unicorn
< 1448277633 990280 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn russell's teapot/Russell's Teapot / Short and stout / Orbits near Mars / Or thereabout. / If you see it / Let us know / If you don't / What does that show?
< 1448277636 988423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «russell's teapot»
< 1448277675 104975 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wait is that a pre-existing rhyme
< 1448277681 707662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so
< 1448277692 405102 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made it up
< 1448277697 712601 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent
< 1448277727 647740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I can't remember the second verse to I'm a little teapot
< 1448277824 529074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has the lyrics scream and shout
< 1448277843 454036 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1448277844 958581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist/http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available)
< 1448278085 553294 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do these tex commands do? does it keep track of stuff and rules or the like?
< 1448278187 462330 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: they track the character sheets for example
< 1448278276 55959 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can do \charactersheet{Also} and it will give you a sheet?
< 1448278463 343929 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you sure not confusing it with "When in danger / or in doubt / run in circles / scream and shout"
< 1448278467 741561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, the winners of the 24th ioccc were announced in october, but I somehow missed that
< 1448278470 804666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+you're
< 1448278529 678986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448278541 899764 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily
< 1448279480 16673 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1448279518 408709 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endoh managed to win with three programs, not bad
< 1448279525 943736 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, four
< 1448279880 510273 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448279890 912477 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1448279900 853656 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1448280170 839439 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448281478 33616 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x18
< 1448281479 773294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24
< 1448281506 748916 :Froox!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448281574 172206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: four, yes
< 1448281730 159787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ImageMagick's plans for the future version 7 are quite ambitious. basically they want the program to do everything.
< 1448281734 526425 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1448281829 658450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they want to do operations in such generality over any color space as gimp 3.
< 1448281999 175274 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SIMPLEX CHICKEN
< 1448282501 166091 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds nice
< 1448282519 427679 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's a pity the work has to be duplicated
< 1448282552 249324 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it would be better if there could be a command-line frontend akin to imagemagick's for GIMP operations
< 1448282639 855534 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i think mr. ishiguro did a _big_ mistake over in freefall
< 1448282668 206090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: um, there's the python interface, the perl interface, the guile interface, for gimp. you can use those from command-line as perl one-liners.
< 1448282691 542445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you a vampire?
< 1448282691 795265 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's actually why i tend to have a large fnord file, but not any haiku that i can
< 1448282701 942008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNEW IT!
< 1448282800 890218 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah
< 1448282844 114647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you the immortal kind of vampire who when killed just turns gaseous and flees back to his coffin to heal unless killed by a silver bullet, a stake through your heart, bright light, garlic, holy water, chainsaw, fire, a rooster, with holy wafers in your mouth sewn closed, or in your bat form?
< 1448282887 368361 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious too. Well, fungot, are you?
< 1448282887 510860 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and my fnord account :) built a binary search tree
< 1448282905 649957 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to interpret that
< 1448282915 611468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH! i was right!
< 1448282947 376294 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(othar)
< 1448283472 573894 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D
< 1448283478 771244 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Othar
< 1448283513 850957 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, updated already?
< 1448283546 492973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: let's build a binary decision diagram instead
< 1448283546 724387 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: can i have your new browser anmaster i call it event-based declarative language for making bot ai's for a game, and how
< 1448283558 911392 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's been updating early for weeks
< 1448283559 53846 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ominous
< 1448283586 565517 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a fair point. the braille pattern is too large to fit with others, but I initially wanted to make (much widely used) 6-dot brailles good looking when mixed with normal text. probably not a wise decision though...
< 1448283659 917638 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't realize it was *that* early
< 1448283786 665750 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've been reading it when I wake up
< 1448283813 350945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(10-ish, GMT)
< 1448283813 350972 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only checked just now, but other days it's been up at like 7 am
< 1448283846 916542 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk
< 1448283891 744488 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was up before quarter to 10 GMT this morning
< 1448283978 255064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, "Javascript is required for optimal experience." -- ok, so it's not actually required, only recommended.
< 1448284024 294779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if you need optimal experience, JavaScript is required
< 1448284035 41898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than google
< 1448284035 914462 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's teeeeeeechnically correct
< 1448284051 648983 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page."
< 1448286123 943561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anybody here ever written something in curry?
< 1448286822 529466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so IPF is another name for the Itanium aka IA64 architecture?
< 1448287195 854842 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1448288335 603176 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1448288935 230585 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448289071 89060 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there were something between Java and JavaScript.
< 1448289079 521821 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ScriptJava
< 1448289081 9660 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever
< 1448289182 49663 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1448289333 972656 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I like neither of the two.
< 1448289343 237935 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Java because it limits my expressive mental power.
< 1448289351 558847 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't like JavaScript because I don't like it.
< 1448289359 283097 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like scriptjava?
< 1448289393 584114 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it supports functional programming with type inference, operator overloading etc. then yes
< 1448289557 454607 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Haskell/
< 1448289561 806202 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1448289600 542474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: um, maybe you want haskell?
< 1448289604 457121 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the Japanese in the topic mean?
< 1448289735 552651 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ウフ
< 1448289736 722296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+30A6 KATAKANA LETTER U] [U+30D5 KATAKANA LETTER HU]
< 1448289743 268906 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhuhu channel?
< 1448289747 803401 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently
< 1448289767 656939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take it
< 1448289833 219672 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH
< 1448289840 91502 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SPJ disappoints me
< 1448289843 641775 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's working at Microsoft
< 1448289850 970018 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but IE still doesn't support Haskell native
< 1448289853 310226 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it did with VB
< 1448289863 882819 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a bummer
< 1448289866 757857 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't support VB anymore either, so
< 1448289878 786271 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they got cold feet.
< 1448289897 924274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess at this point you'd almost expect them to support TypeScript natively, but I don't think they do that either?
< 1448289900 955788 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of companies wont use newer IE versions because of that
< 1448289909 847677 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're still running websites with client side VB
< 1448289949 466567 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like book keeping/time keeping software :)
< 1448290034 619597 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, using old versions of office
< 1448290046 20843 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to plugin compatibility issues
< 1448290050 384235 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compatability
< 1448290188 235183 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told off for using divs rather than tables after the intranet site look broken on the new IE
< 1448290202 17227 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while making it look good on the new IE I just switched to using divs :)
< 1448290209 518000 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a few years ago though
< 1448291219 97769 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448292416 676698 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448292720 139880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FiM++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45608&oldid=36952 5* 03192.127.94.7 5* (+0) 10/* Syntax */ replaced one of the colons with a semicolon
< 1448294414 582023 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448295783 940201 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc's stack-protector-all is killing me
< 1448295796 557310 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it protects all but you
< 1448295797 950983 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces unfavorable stack layouts
< 1448295801 564933 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1448295805 699616 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stack cannary isn't the problem
< 1448295809 973799 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is the stack layout it chooses
< 1448295821 518600 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually the stack layout is ARGS -> EIP -> EBP -> LOCALS
< 1448295844 209506 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with just the stack cannary it'd be ARGS -> EIP -> EBP -> CANNARY -> LOCALS
< 1448295848 674043 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't be a big deal.
< 1448295859 667006 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it actually rearranges mixes args and locals etc.
< 1448295892 32152 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's really unfavorable
< 1448295913 65082 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd want esp to point to your buffer somehow so you can set up a rop chain
< 1448295965 913261 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the stack layout with stack-protector-all makes it hard to gain control over esp
< 1448296000 923457 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what you need to provide arguments to functions you're going to call and setup a chain of functions
< 1448296122 756191 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x08048597 : add esp, 0x54 ; pop ebx ; pop ebp ; ret
< 1448296130 24395 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you need these kind of gadgets
< 1448296134 789594 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 0x54 is too much in this case :(
< 1448296163 359960 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you need to find a gadget that alters esp in a way so it points into your buffer)
< 1448296564 554363 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/sample 542 glyphs so far.
< 1448296741 371169 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next big thing
< 1448296753 533895 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploiting security vulnerabilities in brainfuck programs
< 1448296772 219474 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make them print to stdout whatever the f*ck you want using that security vulnerability
< 1448297068 241462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: by taking over the interpreter that doesn't check tape head underflow or overflow
< 1448297087 87255 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1448297109 89209 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by assuming that bf programs use NUL-Terminated strings as well .
< 1448297120 749375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe has some more complicated bug, in an optimized interpreter
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< 1448298256 792110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't understand this. If the demigods only vote in case of a tie, then how did Hermod expect to cast a protest vote while also thinking there would not be enough aye votes.
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< 1448300040 868361 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
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< 1448300270 536937 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need an identifier for the "0" function. Essentially, 0:x::1:I where I is the identity function
< 1448300339 514905 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /could/ just use 0, but that gets confusing because most numeric functions have a domain of only the reals and functions. S (for "Self") already means successor. Z might work.
< 1448300792 499535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This pangram contains four As, one B, two Cs, one D, thirty Es, six Fs, five Gs, seven Hs, eleven Is, one J, one K, two Ls, two Ms, eighteen Ns, fifteen Os, two Ps, one Q, five Rs, twenty-seven Ss, eighteen Ts, two Us, seven Vs, eight Ws, two Xs, three Ys, & one Z."
< 1448300818 233969 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much finangling was needed to produce this sentence
< 1448300999 533949 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've just found    f(x)=f . x
< 1448301020 929523 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm doing some shady math, so it isn't too meaningful
< 1448301193 618838 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448301195 523057 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it is.
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< 1448302221 149767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Apollo10]]": XNR left behind after aborted attempt to move to mainspace
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< 1448302361 239815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello!
< 1448302376 138193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi b_jonas
< 1448302384 334597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10blocked [[02User:103.3.98.22710]] with an expiry time of 1 week (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): copyright violation, possibly spamming, more likely human than spambot
< 1448302452 171514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is a month old news, so you might have seen it: The winners of the 24th IOCCC have been announced. http://www.ioccc.org/2015/whowon.html
< 1448302488 443157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:103.3.98.22714]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45609 5* 03Ais523 5* (+503) 10block notice
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< 1448303265 838636 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, crazy idea. name: Fallen Behind. mc: 1BB. type: Enchantment. text: At the beginning of each end step, destroy all permanents that have been tapped and controlled by the active player continuously since the beginning of the turn. For each permanent destroyed this way, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.
< 1448303454 763481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The relative phrase should be rephrased somehow to make it better.
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< 1448304530 533356 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu
< 1448304540 539414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1448304542 524266 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what f**g is equal to xD
< 1448304555 51187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I deleted the redirect you left behind at [[Apollo]] for yo
< 1448304558 873604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for you
< 1448304572 794057 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, did I leave a redirect accidentally?
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< 1448304574 421861 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry xD
< 1448304591 199447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not accidentally, as a non-admin you have no means not to
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< 1448304965 81507 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: meanwhile, I also wanted to ask you about something
< 1448304992 26529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: which reminds me
< 1448305007 5429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now pretty sure Three Star Programmer is TC; I have a plan for compiling cyclic tag into it
< 1448305030 647224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, that would be interesting
< 1448305163 219260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I want to ask about ayacc and yacc stuff.
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< 1448305232 823634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to know how we can prove with a computer that an ambiguous ayacc grammar is ambiguous only in ways that we like. There are two specific cases I want to bring up.
< 1448305272 435366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is when the language has some infix operators, with precedences and associativity declared with the directives. 
< 1448305320 659523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are supposedly disambiguated by parenthesis. Is there some way that we could make the computer verify us that all relevant expressions can indeed be parenthisized?
< 1448305333 619436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This surely needs some extra annotations in the grammar, but even still I'm not sure how we could do it.
< 1448305340 763464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might even need changes in ayacc.
< 1448305369 715822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: isn't it known that it's impossible to tell whether a language is ambiguous or not?
< 1448305378 348772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, uncomputable
< 1448305382 113568 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh sure
< 1448305387 434346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to be that general
< 1448305395 472023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want a particular way to prove that the language is not ambiguous
< 1448305418 727694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayacc already has such a way: if the language has no shift-reduce and reduce-reduce conflicts as a lalr(1) grammar, it's unambiguous
< 1448305434 356210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1448305453 943520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in some well-behaved cases we can prove it, say if the precedences resolve all those conflicts.
< 1448305457 687046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually,
< 1448305465 332559 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't ONLY need that the grammar is unambiguous
< 1448305515 99535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also that for any syntax tree that the ambiguous version (without precedences) could nondeterministically output, there's some input for which the deterministic version (with precedences) outputs the same syntax tree,
< 1448305540 310132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can get this input easily from the syntax tree by undoing the rules and adding parenthesis to some places where it's necessary.
< 1448305555 659463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm you could write a pretty-printer for the AST and prove you can parse the original AST back.
< 1448305574 748898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting direction to go down
< 1448305575 283266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could annotate rules that we want to treat as behaving like parenthesis.
< 1448305611 762799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is a grammar always unambiguous if every production starts with ( and ends with ), with those characters otherwise unused?
< 1448305630 554695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no, you also need to avoid having two rules that tr
< 1448305638 425042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that trigger on the same input sequence directly
< 1448305644 854415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm trying to get there conceptually... this doesn't mean that there has to be an *actual* pretty printer at any point)
< 1448305645 703576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this seems important to me because in some real languages like C++ it gets quite difficult to see that while the crazy syntax quirks make you rephrase some things you want to write, but you can always rephrase, and there's a mechanical way to do that.
< 1448305658 90934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a := ( b ) | ( c ); b := ( d ); c := ( d )
< 1448305687 508946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course not. there can still be simple reduce-reduce ambiguities 
< 1448305698 515008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a := ( ) | ( )
< 1448305705 205733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's the same thing I suggested there
< 1448305719 553195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it /does/ make the shape of the parse tree unambiguous, though
< 1448305728 232571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only ambiguity is as to which type of node a particular node is
< 1448305753 459800 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, C++ grammar is _crazy_
< 1448305780 143541 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least many people who have an eye for things like this stare at it a lot, which helps.
< 1448305824 499553 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I'd like a mechanical way to be able to prove things like this, which doesn't depend on a committee happening to squint at the grammar the right way and not finding any problems.
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< 1448306291 96374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if a grammar uses infixes and precedences, then ayacc can already prove that the language with precedences in unambiguous.
< 1448306296 431100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can't prove that it's expressive enough.
< 1448306357 472074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me mention another case. Suppose that instead of precedences, you have prefix operators that take a variable number of arguments (the last argument is optional or can be repeated), 
< 1448306384 739229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like an esolang already :-D
< 1448306386 311789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to make the grammar unambiguous, there's an optional matching terminator you can put after the expression to close the innermost expressions of certain kind.
< 1448306389 863307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't
< 1448306394 155053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on
< 1448306401 519040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's C, with its if-else ambiguity
< 1448306410 200262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C++ with try-catch
< 1448306427 67177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it can also be an esolang, because esolangs can do such things too
< 1448306434 203285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's very much a real problem
< 1448306451 919009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, C doesn't have just a matching terminator
< 1448306456 59471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that if-else ambiguity is really common, and also quite hard to fix in yacc
< 1448306469 330971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although ayacc will output a message telling you what you have to do, it's not at all obvious why it works)
< 1448306506 380463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how do you write an ambiguous try-catch? try foo(); try bar(); catch (x) { ... } ?
< 1448306508 65202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem very useful
< 1448306512 511752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it is technically ambiguous
< 1448306534 613551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try try foo catch(x) bar catch(y) bar catch(z) bar catch(w) bar
< 1448306538 882473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple catches
< 1448306560 7625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, that line of code is painful to read
< 1448306596 195333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, especially as it's not even clear that the first "try" is part of the code. sorry.
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< 1448306642 84482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in this case what I think I can do is to have a grammar that has alternatives for certain rules with equivalent semantics (say with or without the terminator), and use a preprocessor to create a variant of the grammar with the more concise equivalents stripped, and then use ayacc to prove that the variant is unambiguous.
< 1448306667 323265 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, prove that if you always have to write else; after every if statement without an else, then it's unambiguous
< 1448306681 819496 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or always have to write endif after an if, in a non-C language
< 1448306688 467083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh dear)
< 1448306695 473175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BASIC with its END IF)
< 1448306702 832264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or vhdl
< 1448306819 191311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first stage, I'd like a system where if I understand why the language can express everything I want to express, and a precise method for how to parenthisize a syntax tree to express it, then 
< 1448306906 583569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have a way to annotate (1) how syntax trees are equivalent to others semantically, (2) how I'm ok if some syntax trees are unexpressible because they're meaningless anyway even if it seems from the nondeterministic grammar that they should be possible, and (3) why the language is expressive;
< 1448306930 515949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the computer should be able to check that if it trusts me about (1) and (2) then (3) is really a proof that the syntax is expressive.
< 1448306971 627802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At second stage, I'd like the computer to tell me why my proof in (3) doesn't work, eg. give counterexamples, similarly to how ayacc helps tell why a lalr(1) grammar has conflicts.
< 1448306985 478495 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wogcc.state.wy.us/SundryPassWord.cfm
< 1448307012 174867 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and
< 1448307031 604842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At zeroth stage, I'd like to know what the heck to search for to find scientific research papers about this.
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< 1448307069 552398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should ask zeroth stage on TCS stack exchange.
< 1448307084 339323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first I'll wait if you have anything in minid.;
< 1448307089 254849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1448307094 579004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible that even this is uncomputable
< 1448307099 511195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is!
< 1448307102 678993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it isn't, I don't really have ideas on where to start
< 1448307105 563486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to always be able to prove it.
< 1448307118 707220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need a particular restricted set of grammars and annotations that work for some grammars.
< 1448307131 739104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need this to work for every crazy language.
< 1448307143 138985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just, you know, many real world crazy languages.
< 1448307154 700618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in many case my problem in first place is that the language isn't even LR.
< 1448307228 561244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yacc input is LR(2) (but not LR(1)), which is one of my favourite parser facts
< 1448307242 990902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. you mentioned that.
< 1448307271 943271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And C (after preprocessing) requires you to track which names are typenames in what scopes.
< 1448307273 334908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of my favourite parser facts, so I'm not surprised I mentioned it earlier
< 1448307286 495589 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which gets way more complicated in C++ by the way.
< 1448307301 863341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The grammar of C++ is horrible. It has so many corners.
< 1448307303 323524 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use Rust, it's easy to parse =P
< 1448307305 443196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/grammar/syntax/
< 1448307336 52619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448307417 292071 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1448307421 615507 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :f**g
< 1448307431 17136 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :f**3 = f . f . f
< 1448307451 675826 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is a function here, equal to x*3, so I must be able to do f**g
< 1448307470 903745 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some horrible kludges that handle some underlying ambiguities, some right in the lexer; and there's multiple ambiguities that the programmers themselves have to be aware of because they come up in real world code and can't be fixed because of compatibility.
< 1448307488 744425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well in Underload and Underlambda, numbers are defined as the matching exponentiation functions
< 1448307519 119385 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK. Well for mine, it makes more sense that they're multiplication
< 1448307519 995036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (a)3^, or "a to the power 3", is a compose a compose a (i.e. aaa in Underload/Underlambda syntax)
< 1448307529 758968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: nah, there are no languages that are good and simple, only ones that are too young yet to be complicated. this applies to syntax too.
< 1448307539 396845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your "there should be a way to exponentiate one function with another" is just application (multiplication is composition)
< 1448307547 871773 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also found that f(g)=f . g, so that might be helpful
< 1448307567 481401 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: C started out with a good deal of "complicated"
< 1448307571 521130 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just discovering λ-calculus xD
< 1448307599 939709 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean specifically Rust can be parsed with an LR(1) grammar
< 1448307611 127901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think unlambda or underload specifically favors that particular numeric representations. It's not like there are library functions using them or something.
< 1448307625 445192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: underlambda does have library functions
< 1448307638 299557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're meant to be general-purpose but specifically favour that numeric representation
< 1448307647 609503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload doesn't, and in fact some people use other numeric representations
< 1448307650 180570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the string-of-colons one
< 1448307654 698784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I see
< 1448307690 973091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that one can be added easily enough, but other operations are awkward)
< 1448307770 872281 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps f**g is equal to f composed with itself g(1) times?
< 1448307796 728096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if g(1) isn't an integer?
< 1448307804 67842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if g doesn't even take integer arguments?
< 1448307836 729081 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know, that was my problem
< 1448307846 749685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen the Haskell type "Hyper a b = Hyper b a -> b"?
< 1448307854 558957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. Hyper a b = (Hyper a b -> a) -> b
< 1448307864 702414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting because it can exist in Haskell but not in set theory.
< 1448307876 188748 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1448307901 242231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Hyper Bool Bool ~~ Nat, i.e. the naturals are isomorphic to their own double powerset.
< 1448307912 934051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: one of your sets of as and bs is backwards, which?
< 1448307916 817954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, your two lines don't match)
< 1448307931 786754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it backwards?
< 1448307942 963633 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the second line is double-backwards
< 1448307943 106142 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither one
< 1448307944 72697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyper a b = Hyper b a -> b = (Hyper a b -> a) -> b
< 1448307946 94620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is right
< 1448307949 939078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see
< 1448307959 583404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second line is iterated
< 1448307990 970801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the reals isomorphic to their own powerset? IIRC yes?
< 1448308005 68579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing is isomorphic to its own powerset in set theory.
< 1448308006 145566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Foo = Foo (Foo -> Foo)  is also fun
< 1448308021 672672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That uses negative recursion, though.
< 1448308030 410086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess Hyper does too.
< 1448308040 507783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking that it preserves variances.
< 1448308041 211713 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but it's still fine in Haskell, and it's inhabited nevertheless
< 1448308050 817045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, right
< 1448308057 259055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can merge an countable number of reals into one real
< 1448308062 451553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't merge an uncountable number of reals into one real
< 1448308108 819562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, is that certain? how do you prove that?
< 1448308112 416722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah Hyper is a proper bifunctor
< 1448308117 574190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profunctor
< 1448308122 808248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heared of that theorem.
< 1448308130 612430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a bifunctor, but not an instance of the Haskell class Bifunctor.
< 1448308138 875154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can't merge a continuum many reals to a real of course.
< 1448308164 837717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read somewhere about "Honalee algorithm" which can generate the parser for LR(anything)
< 1448308185 942891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi. 
< 1448308191 870768 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a crazy card idea for you.
< 1448308195 831030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1448308233 134220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The Foo thing is basically what you need for untyped lambda calculus; you can have   abs :: (Foo -> Foo) -> Foo; abs = Foo, and  app :: Foo -> Foo -> Foo; app (Foo f) x = f x, and you can express closed lambda terms, say, abs (\x -> app x x)
< 1448308263 391131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What idea?
< 1448308274 151355 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :name: Fallen Behind. mc: 1BB. type: Enchantment. text: At the beginning of each end step, destroy all permanents that have been tapped and controlled by the active player continuously since the beginning of the turn. For each permanent destroyed this way, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.
< 1448308285 448806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only, that ability should be rephrased somehow so it's easier to read.)
< 1448308292 976467 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using higher order abstract syntax)
< 1448308296 262604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, and you can cause nontermination.
< 1448308303 95407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course.
< 1448308351 673952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway usually people talk about the untyped lambda calculus as a CCC with that isomorphism.
< 1448308355 214861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that.
< 1448308362 235453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easiest way to use this is with sleep/thirst effects. That requires you to use an additional color, which can be blue or possible white or green.
< 1448308378 946707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make this hard by requiring double black mana, so it's harder to abuse.
< 1448308408 527656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :app (abs (\x -> app x x)) (abs (\x -> app x x)) `seq` () -- *twiddles thumbs*
< 1448308428 654613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I added that
< 1448308430 332920 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a strange card in TSP that lets you use it in mono-black, but even then I think it's not overpwoered.
< 1448308451 650678 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should perhaps use an infix operator for app.
< 1448308490 221258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'd guess that that causes inliner problems, like the usual definition of Y with Rec?
< 1448308490 454295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that card is OK.
< 1448308493 224049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where y
< 1448308493 371506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\f -> (\x -> f (outR x x)) (InR (\x -> f (outR x x)))
< 1448308501 322323 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so what would f**I be, where I is the identity function?
< 1448308524 670269 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably, but I'm running it in ghci without optimization.
< 1448308550 748177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I is 1 as a Church numeral
< 1448308565 875686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I tried to make an instant that _untaps_ permanents like that, but that can't work: either it's overpowered combined with the right cards, or it's so overpriced it's useless, so it doesn't encourage using it in an interesting way.
< 1448308579 43396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "I am 1 as a Church numeral" hth
< 1448308581 529574 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: THat's what I was thinking, but I want to allow more than just church numerals
< 1448308592 103876 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it didn't
< 1448308621 87294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But destroying it makes sense in black, because (1) black can destroy tapped creatures anyway, although this one also destroys artifacts, (2) doesn't let you abuse cards where "doesn't untap" is a drawback.
< 1448308632 10344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And black likes to make zombies this way.
< 1448308661 867032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still mustn't be too cheap because then you could get a lot of zombies for cheap.
< 1448308685 544684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1448308747 210972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, what do people informally call "doesn't untap during its controller's untap step" these days? Is it thirst, or sleep?
< 1448308768 156343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( cumulative upkeep: sacrifice a zombie )
< 1448308768 362783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1448308878 923688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are really black, you can use it on your own permanents that have a "doesn't untap" drawback, such as tempest dual lands or Giant Oyster.
< 1448308978 359031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know which strange black card from TSP lets you use this in a mono-black deck? although still not in a way that's overpowered.
< 1448308980 713829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has many of those kind of uses; it works on any player's permanents whether you or opponent
< 1448308998 510218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448309008 823012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know, but I will try to look
< 1448309010 334690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it deliberately kills your own stuff, that just makes it blacker.
< 1448309104 800721 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The gathering channel )
< 1448309108 962816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: why bother? the Stasis already has a cumulative upkeep. Winter Orb doesn't
< 1448309126 395828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Winter Orb actually might be somewhat crazy with this. 
< 1448309154 190798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will kill the opponent's lands in a completely one-sided way. 
< 1448309192 562702 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448309194 403274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cumulative upkeep: Put an age counter on this permanent."
< 1448309201 67753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ouch
< 1448309232 679068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, that would require you to assemble a 3-combo, with 2 cards very specific, and spend 7 (or maybe 6) mana on it, so in a format with Winter Orb it's probably easily ok to destroy all lands of the opponent for that price.
< 1448309243 599616 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448309289 807969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: card name: methuselah
< 1448309321 744315 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1448309347 967259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, I think if you're playing Legacy and spend 6 mana on those 3 cards to destroy all but one of the opponent's lands, then the opponent will calmly play a second land next turn and kill you and think you were going easy on him.
< 1448309371 31801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it only Vintage that's so crazy?
< 1448309441 610019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Winter Orb already denies the opponent the use of those lands, so destroying them isn't too much extra.
< 1448309454 706890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found Mana Skimmer in Time Spiral
< 1448309470 642704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's it, yes
< 1448309561 541370 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to invent esonums
< 1448309565 147864 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for fun
< 1448309844 696563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have no clue what I'm doing xD
< 1448309930 133607 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kinds of weird mathematical objects could we have?
< 1448309979 111154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe the technique where (I modify the grammar by splitting and deleting rules, prove that everything accepted by the new grammar is accepted by the original with the same semantics, and the modified grammar is ayacc unambiguous) covers enough that I could use it for enough cases,
< 1448310012 302946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case maybe I should write a preprocessor that helps verify the modification by generating the two grammars from a common input.
< 1448310019 464862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to think about how much this covers.
< 1448310357 609587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ok, this gives me a lot to think about. Thanks for being a teddy bear for this, and good night.
< 1448310575 568356 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use ≡ or ≔ for assignment?
< 1448310590 678601 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ≔ is assignment and ≡ is reactive assignment?
< 1448311613 815185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want to see a SQLite extension to access Gatherer, and I want a filterable "last updated time" field to be added. Such a field makes it easy to make backups
< 1448311687 369298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I think the virtual table capabilities of SQLite are currently too weak for some purposes.
< 1448311859 862298 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many possible trit gates are there?
< 1448311890 66743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: with two inputs?
< 1448311906 323794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have nine possible combinations of trits coming in on the inputs, each of which can produce one of three outputs
< 1448311909 731571 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, forgot to mention that
< 1448311921 976990 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that should be enough for me to figure it out xD
< 1448311922 207158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving you 9**3 possibilities
< 1448311922 846157 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :27
< 1448311926 546754 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right
< 1448311930 240206 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... a lot
< 1448311931 741700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is 243
< 1448311940 538548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's too late for me to do maths in my head really
< 1448311948 214228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, and be confident about being correct)
< 1448311999 171340 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Have any ideas about what I should do for esonums?
< 1448312021 141044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my creative process for esolangs is very different from yours
< 1448312026 996944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448312041 672058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think "I need an esoteric version of «somethign I already know»", look for something similar, move on
< 1448312056 615119 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much
< 1448312057 896845 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD
< 1448312060 173253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think along the lines of "here are some interesting primitives, how much can I do with /just/ those"?
< 1448312067 928241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then try to take the language to its logical conclusion
< 1448312077 903112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like http://esolangs.org/wiki/Snowflake is another example along similar lines
< 1448312082 499060 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The curse of ADHD
< 1448312086 498922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original concept was a language that changes over time as you run programs in it
< 1448312111 118404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realized it needed to be reversible, because otherwise you couldn't guarantee that your program could keep running forever as the language might lose computational power over time
< 1448312126 376167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is this?
< 1448312134 96359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Snowflake
< 1448312136 52468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowflake again
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< 1448312148 253140 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of my ideas are "What if THIS IDEA was SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT"
< 1448312160 224784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loops aren't reverisble, but I needed a lot of power in one "main loop" iteration, because otherwise you couldn't "keep up" with changes to the language
< 1448312168 230345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then I ended up having to add SIMD parallelism
< 1448312175 390105 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: me too. i'm already ready to invent another auberginoid :P
< 1448312185 413115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, Fueue started as a queue-based Underload, Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download started as functional BIT
< 1448312194 956212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it was a case of finding primitives that fit into this kind of highly specific paradigm
< 1448312268 237359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to try that method at some poinnt
< 1448312275 220921 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I want to do is create something similar to numbers, but entirely different. Then, I want to start taking stuff from different branches of mathematics (like order theory) and roll it in
< 1448312285 921360 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Similar, but entirely different'
< 1448312287 786312 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'
< 1448312295 77246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: IMO an esolang is a failure if the spec has to assume the existence of numbers to work
< 1448312297 268104 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs summed up in their entirely
< 1448312300 404238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only half joking)
< 1448312303 109301 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine tend to be like "here's a list of three or four goals to achieve...fill in the details"
< 1448312305 719114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you should be able to implement them in terms of something else
< 1448312335 782543 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Mine isn't so much an esolang as the mathematics of aliens
< 1448312340 101173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually Three Star Programmer wasn't so hard to work out; the key idea was to never read from odd-numbered tape elements but only beyond a certain point
< 1448312347 616137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is why you're the guy that did the thing once.
< 1448312369 469113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that was more being an undergraduate with a ton of spare time during the summer holidays
< 1448312383 590608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were surprised an undergraduate did it, my reaction was more "well who else would waste twomonths on this?"
< 1448312385 386569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*two months
< 1448312465 408167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...
< 1448312565 588817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: its not enough to have the time. you also have to be comfortable analyzing computational models that don't involve numbers as primitives
< 1448312584 782724 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tree order theory? One where numbers are on a tree instead of a line?
< 1448312598 601001 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, that's an idea for something in general)
< 1448312610 392675 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not necessarily numbers)
< 1448312618 106246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why would having numbers as primitives even help? :-D
< 1448312652 118273 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it sure seems to help the thousands of CS undergrads that do pretty much all their algorithmic work with them
< 1448312672 960594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most algorithms I know either don't use numbers, or use them to keep track of which order things are in
< 1448312683 25531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few exceptions where you have to count something
< 1448312722 142889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: keeping track of the order things are in, or even just doing basic arithmetic, is actually quite common!
< 1448312736 881448 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebraic Graph Theory
< 1448312741 363039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but speaking of languages without numbers, i finally got around to implementing Platts last night
< 1448312742 759193 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own personal interpretation of graph theory
< 1448312743 745550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but keeping track of an order can be done with a ton of primitives
< 1448312751 392614 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll design that
< 1448312752 707031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to use numbers, they're just normally convenient
< 1448312812 961394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i will rephrase: you ave to have overwhelming amounts of time to deal with the added inconvenience of a lack of numbers, and also not be supremely annoyed by that lack
< 1448312840 467677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(try to put yourself in the shoes of the average joe for a moment)
< 1448312900 660097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, suppose you start by trying to implement cyclic tag
< 1448312903 639712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an excellent default
< 1448312914 303177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do numbers help? the language doesn't have much to do with numbers in the first place
< 1448312930 816109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointers help, and some languages let you use numbers as pointers
< 1448312953 610729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's only coincidence that you're using numbers for that rather than, say, chains of tape elements in brainfuck
< 1448313023 692078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :see already you're not putting yourself in the shoes of the average joe. no average joe would say "cyclic tag is an excellent default". The average joe would say "Java" or "Python" or "C#" or "C++"
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< 1448313145 867354 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average joe would go "wow jeez tapes and symbols" shortly but adapt to the simplistic nature of things pretty easily, i feel
< 1448313173 979023 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then give up and say "this thing is way, way too simple to compute anything" instead of persevering and proving the thingy)
< 1448313187 972933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average joe would say "wow jeezz tapes and symbols. weird, but i have a project due, so i'll just forget it"
< 1448313188 908813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hauris
< 1448313198 663195 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, exactly
< 1448313216 802840 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiii ʃaxaf
< 1448313235 767628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurhis
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< 1448313255 952012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well you wouldn't expect someone to solve the problem if they were starting from a completely inappropriate starting point
< 1448313265 130481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, I started by trying to prove it Turing-incomplete
< 1448313281 128566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then analysed why the proofs weren't working to figure out what approach to take
< 1448313322 584791 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: but people in my "computability + automata + turing machines + whatever" course seemed not immediately frustrated with how simple automata/TMs are, when having to design them; then again, the things they had to design or the properties they had to reason about were much simpler
< 1448313375 499267 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatively ordered set? One where some objects have positions relative to others, but there's no overarching order (or if there is, it's expressed by rules)
< 1448313400 173933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well esodesign and esoprogramming aren't quite the same skill, although there's a lot of overlap
< 1448313401 745738 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's a poset! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partially_ordered_set
< 1448313409 190040 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!
< 1448313410 948549 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it?)
< 1448313415 126259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is.
< 1448313419 913471 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe
< 1448313422 594726 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtly different
< 1448313430 28221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esodesign's a bit like game design; you're making a puzzle to solve, and need to understand how people will/can go about solving it
< 1448313446 54157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference is that it's up to you how easy or difficult to make it, it's OK if you don't expect the puzzle to be solved ever
< 1448313459 241601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's no implicit "this is solvable" warranty
< 1448313497 54800 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always been bad at coming up with the "puzzles" because i'm also really bad at solving them
< 1448313549 257861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "start with the solution and work backwards" is a common advice for that in game design, but it doesn't really work with esolangs
< 1448313554 754037 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you have to aim nicely between "trivially powerful" and "too simple to do anything", but from my perspective, everything is either one of those things
< 1448313579 29710 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked on Arithmetic of the Functia and it was really fun, so now I'm looking for something fun like that to work on. That's why I attempted to make Esonums
< 1448313582 762516 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i feel like lots of esolangs might have started as: "i want a programming language in which programming in it involves..."
< 1448313704 748584 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "solution" is that technique. and a well-designed esolang obscures this technique to make itself look useless
< 1448313708 42040 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you seen http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/61804/create-a-programming-language-that-only-appears-to-be-unusable ?
< 1448313733 680047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't follow PPCG, and generally rely on people linking it to me
< 1448313745 545470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the threads there are brilliant and really worth reading but most are just bad
< 1448313755 773350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so thanks for linking me to the interesting ones :-)
< 1448313758 277271 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :they gamified esolang creation in exactly the way you described!
< 1448313777 375975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, although their languages also have to take input
< 1448313781 635774 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a thread about "create an esolang that's good at matching 2D patterns"
< 1448313784 300234 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a good idea, but no time to implement it
< 1448313785 888592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was interesting
< 1448313900 817416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a thread on meta that seems targeted toward pretty much replicatng the Language list
< 1448313934 811613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I noticed that the first one was based on some sort of cube with partial rotations (Rubik's cube style) before the author mentioned it
< 1448313938 994149 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh...
< 1448313941 377467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which functional language has the shortest procedural interpreter?
< 1448313956 442011 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do Functia Matrices because I don't yet have function addition
< 1448313970 786719 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any ideas?
< 1448314008 606134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :function addition is well-defined
< 1448314018 902787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :f+g(x)=f(x)+g(x) for all x
< 1448314041 583951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh. 
< 1448314046 417733 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f+g)(x)?
< 1448314052 624896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's one well-definition
< 1448314087 496062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Underlambda definition is along the lines of (f+g)(x) = f(x) composed with g(x)
< 1448314097 192715 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it looks like that's poplular, but that won't work
< 1448314103 225746 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, underlambda's looks nice
< 1448314104 469345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's more precise because it allows for the possibility that f and g might take weird numbers of arguments
< 1448314128 890973 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Should I use underlambda's definition? That might be good
< 1448314139 291512 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or I'll use Kleene addition
< 1448314162 332166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well in Underlamda, function application is exponentiation, and composition is multiplication, so we have x**(f+g) = x**f * x**g
< 1448314176 726094 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yep, that works.
< 1448314177 622518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of addition follows logically from that of multiplication and exponentiation
< 1448314185 917846 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1448314189 824877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is the reverse of the way most people define it, but…)
< 1448314242 445682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he was using composition=multiplication before
< 1448314267 482969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I thought he was using application=multiplication?
< 1448314294 676599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm confused of the differene
< 1448314295 522087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, I don't actually know what pronoun to use for hppavilion[1], was juts copying yours
< 1448314461 226891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made computer puzzle games that are programmed to start with final position and work backward to create the puzzle by using seeded pseudorandom numbers
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< 1448314568 809592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one way to do it
< 1448314576 204289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, one of them is actually a game and not a language, if you win the game then the interpreter calculates and prints the expected output itself
< 1448314628 595747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds devious
< 1448314642 94755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and
< 1448314647 888769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe slightly against the spirit
< 1448314712 668278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, it was mostly a protest against a mistake in the challenge spec
< 1448314721 911143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Three Star Programmer predates or postdates that contest?
< 1448314742 215552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly, a version that took input would postdate because I haven't figured out how to do input in a way that remotely fits the spirit of the language yet
< 1448314807 930614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is supposed to be output?
< 1448314893 997550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in what, mauris's link? third-largest number in the input
< 1448315082 915743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should enter Purple in the contest
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< 1448316562 634431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TOGA computer14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45610&oldid=39598 5* 03Ais523 5* (-33) 10you can't call something TC if it only has finite memory, and this definitely only has finite memory
< 1448316570 84045 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448316689 722210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45611&oldid=45317 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1783) 10/* List of OISCs */ an OISC can be described via its instruction + its memory mapping and addressing behaviour, so may as well put that information here rather than forcing people to read the individual pages
< 1448316699 573690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, been meaning to do that for a few days now
< 1448316711 865239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them are redlinks so I couldn't check
< 1448316733 201914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it surprises me how simple Three Star Programmer is compared to the others
< 1448316736 15115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it'd be more complex
< 1448316788 960476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly doesn't work much like the others
< 1448316803 374474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. only finitely many addresses can be read infinitely many times, the rest of memory can only be read finitely many times each
< 1448317000 63399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm currently trying to work out how to write a hello world in Three Star Programmer that isn't obnoxiously long
< 1448317031 381694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect I'll have to use multiple nested loops in order to avoid having to unary the entire ASCII space for every character
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< 1448317434 208291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, my notes on compiling cyclic tag to three star programmer are here: http://nethack4.org/pastebin/cytag-to-3*.pl
< 1448317443 359471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be pretty easy to write the compiler based on that
< 1448317449 688749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/testing/ it is another matter, though
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< 1448317654 916220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want a better 3* interpreter, and probably some way to get the construction to produce output (which makes it substantially more complex)
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< 1448322420 432864 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I had an idea
< 1448322425 227662 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCEML
< 1448322434 300301 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semantic Character Encoding and Markup Language
< 1448322478 178670 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A character encoding in every way worse than unicode, except for a few niche uses"
< 1448322502 685621 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Also, incredibly difficult to make fonts for)"
< 1448322666 390036 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1448322763 243843 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't have the linguistic benefits (e.g. supporting every language ever) of unicode, but it would have some benefits for characters like mathematical operators and arrows
< 1448322786 548284 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, that they're generated semantically instead of being a big lookup table
< 1448322898 235265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if there were a typable language for generating SCEML documents, you could type \(COMB:SUBSET, RING) to generate the open subset operator
< 1448322914 439624 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that would become a list of codepoints with a semantic meaning
< 1448322975 24165 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What do you think?
< 1448323097 320511 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No?
< 1448323690 707086 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448324172 361540 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be funny if, in mathematics, we preceeded all exact numbers with "≁" for "not approximately"
< 1448324231 578585 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious
< 1448324259 300246 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that symbol generally goes the other way, though.
< 1448324557 895815 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately not equla to
< 1448324579 727470 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica prefixes high-precision decimal literals with `.
< 1448324703 830713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematica does a lot of things
< 1448324708 685846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally they make sense
< 1448324733 162631 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb must've invented those.
< 1448324748 708910 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :CReal has an approximately-not-equal-to operator.
< 1448324767 350004 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 == (1 + 10^(-1000) :: CReal)
< 1448324769 225524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Negative exponent
< 1448324776 155591 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 == (1 + 10**(-1000) :: CReal)
< 1448324778 260174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1448324796 346454 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er wait
< 1448324804 772623 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I totally wasn't planning on implementing that into Kastor
< 1448324817 668276 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(approximately-not-equal-to, that is)
< 1448324827 855465 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm sorry, "exception: Negative exponent"!?
< 1448324909 134016 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (^)
< 1448324909 314388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ^ 0            =  1
< 1448324909 314441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ^ n | n > 0    =  f x (n-1) x
< 1448324909 314462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :  where f _ 0 y = y
< 1448324909 314482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :        f x n y = g x n
< 1448324909 314500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :          where g x n | even n    = g (x*x) (n `quot` 2)
< 1448324911 248105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :                      | otherwise = f x (n-1) (x*y)
< 1448324913 216044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ ^ _            = error "Prelude.^: negative exponent"
< 1448325133 712534 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^)
< 1448325135 152671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a
< 1448325149 266555 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that type means a doesn't need to have division
< 1448325159 182002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448325183 944550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell has at least three exponentiation operators
< 1448325187 32108 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^^)
< 1448325188 423482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fractional a, Integral b) => a -> b -> a
< 1448325193 886033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (**)
< 1448325195 438954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a
< 1448325220 288006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa
< 1448325239 458917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : I,I newtype Foo a = Foo { unFoo :: a }; instance Monoid a => Num (Foo a) where Foo x * Foo y = Foo (x <> y); fromInteger 1 = Foo mempty; timesN n = unFoo . (^ n) . Foo
< 1448325276 768356 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num from the revelation
< 1448325355 338244 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks base should have the Monoid equivalent of (^) :(

< 1448325444 339269 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@typo (mconcat.).replicate
< 1448325446 323153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoid c => Int -> c -> c
< 1448325460 444212 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't count, it doesn't do binary bisection
< 1448325497 479979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it does with just a small Num instance hth
< 1448325547 245430 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh you were doing it in that direction
< 1448325637 838548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ititdh
< 1448326117 532118 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eeing
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< 1448328040 298683 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I'm going to make a character encoding. A /semantic/ character encoding
< 1448328130 474518 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5242 ?
< 1448328138 647384 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1448328480 734668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I know about Unicode (and I assume that that document is related)
< 1448328490 354508 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just feel like making my own for fun.
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< 1448328520 558986 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: read it first then retry.
< 1448328569 588190 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It looks lnog
< 1448328573 384692 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*long
< 1448328599 631508 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: probably you should look at the date first :)
< 1448328617 222122 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh xD
< 1448328626 483601 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an "alternative" to Unicode that is exclusively described as a series of combining glyphs
< 1448328646 495030 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(similar to Unicode's real system, Ideographic Description Sequence, but extended to *every* letter)
< 1448328700 36284 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not semantic though
< 1448328721 838861 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah.
< 1448328733 366747 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :semantic would encode "cat" and "猫" to the same code
< 1448328754 645212 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but not a program "cat".
< 1448328795 157408 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. as well as "gato" and "chat" and "catus"
< 1448328796 639678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it encode "pooch" to?
< 1448328805 873474 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: What I'm making is a sort of hybrid of character encoding and markup language
< 1448328829 79186 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: depends what pooch means
< 1448328851 20671 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, if there were a language that generates documents in this encoding, you could type \(COMB:SUBSET,RING) to get the "open subset" operator
< 1448328866 491923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about "dog"?
< 1448328876 215605 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not semantic, it's exactly opposite
< 1448328885 337952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chien"? "cabot"?
< 1448328885 977793 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Oh.
< 1448328888 615198 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (fictitious) modernized TeX comes to mind.
< 1448328905 390256 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're encoding form, not substance
< 1448328908 17463 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What's the word I'm looking for then?
< 1448328910 825314 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448328926 492633 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea would be that character appearance is defined with a process of combining diacritics and variables, instead of just text 
< 1448328946 371105 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could also do things like declare that characters have arcs between each other
< 1448328954 716809 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The crowning jewel of the idea is arrows
< 1448328965 219435 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"morphic"
< 1448328967 616758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrow characters actually work: any arrow is possible
< 1448328968 312651 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1448329048 411613 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you aren't just limited to, for example, dashed arrows only come in up/down/left/right
< 1448329177 220682 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you just combine the dashed arrow and diagonal arrow characters in in a COMBINE block, which is delimited by control bracktets and starts with "COMB" then the control separator
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< 1448331281 30374 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/|\2
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< 1448333131 792869 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellauris
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< 1448334850 988777 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a hyperoperational version of factorial
< 1448334875 692811 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1448334964 24879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional factorial
< 1448334974 427478 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Dammit.
< 1448334977 213055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that just recursion
< 1448335016 160032 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is functional factorial you asking me to implement factorial into the Arithmetic of the Functia (which is probably actually a calculus)?
< 1448335032 352019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm asking nothing
< 1448335034 718936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what you like
< 1448335169 879368 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, n⥉ (where ⥉ is the hyperoperational factorial operator) is equal to H[n](n, H[n-1](n-1, H[n-2](n-2, ...H[1](1, 0)...))
< 1448335179 583388 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might just be ackermann xD
< 1448335182 764695 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell
< 1448335196 955617 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah not really
< 1448335295 56750 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great
< 1448335313 63993 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I want function factorial
< 1448335344 985576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do so, I would need to define a + and - operation such that, if I do f-I enough times, then eventually it is equal to I. Is that possible?
< 1448335348 492561 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all functions?
< 1448335363 717401 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1448335369 614546 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a large subset of functions which I could reasonably constrain myself to?
< 1448335424 571400 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND preferably consistent with normal addition and subtraction for the real number subset of functions
< 1448335438 754395 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I've updated my font sample to support a realtime sample rendering of any given text
< 1448335449 390669 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a simple JS hack)
< 1448335558 640211 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It might not be possible for non-well-ordered sets, such as the set 𝕗 (which is a set I'm using)
< 1448335590 45207 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which isn't even partially ordered except for a subset of its arguments)
< 1448335597 686952 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/arguments/elements)
< 1448335619 720123 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ms/s)/s\/)
< 1448336507 889019 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448337539 670206 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1448338610 143702 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream
< 1448341213 445437 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yvrrcobnhfgbkpbq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1448341427 72883 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Thisbe
< 1448341554 936405 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ktyceehttmwcaxss JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448343388 353944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45612&oldid=45579 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-7) 10/* Python 2 */ furthergolfed
< 1448343412 300402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45613&oldid=45612 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Python 2 */
< 1448343801 907013 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FreeFull  I wonder how much finangling was needed to produce this sentence <-- i guess you could do some kind of estimation, pruning and final search... i wonder if using "&" rather than "and" at the end was necessary.
< 1448343802 86421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448344493 518383 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448345270 710932 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a first step, find some hard limit on no. of letters in english numeral / number represented, for numbers large enough
< 1448345299 616884 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/27 should be enough for this
< 1448345430 543968 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1448345450 521241 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven hundred and seventy quadrillions
< 1448345457 18033 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty solid :P
< 1448345477 444383 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(777 gives the longest prefix)
< 1448345487 931615 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you talking too 
< 1448345505 992808 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.102.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448345517 67024 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myself, about FreeFull's self-describing pangram
< 1448345522 300909 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448345527 818729 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This pangram contains four As, one B, two Cs, one D, thirty Es, six Fs, five Gs, seven Hs, eleven Is, one J, one K, two Ls, two Ms, eighteen Ns, fifteen Os, two Ps, one Q, five Rs, twenty-seven Ss, eighteen Ts, two Us, seven Vs, eight Ws, two Xs, three Ys, & one Z."
< 1448345534 697572 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see
< 1448345537 486413 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't there for that
< 1448345545 426576 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought I was missing out on something 
< 1448345546 767207 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1448345555 437758 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i was just reading it in the logs
< 1448345583 657308 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1448345584 816845 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to convince myself you can never get numbers above hundred
< 1448345592 964059 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that template
< 1448345607 282231 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ye
< 1448345636 67182 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the names of numbers are just not long enough.
< 1448345672 860582 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1448345679 270470 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.102.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you spell out the letter names like gee bee cee
< 1448345682 836523 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "sevenhundredandseventythousand"
< 1448345684 495949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 30
< 1448345699 718239 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i do not think that matters.
< 1448345705 771045 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.102.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to get 100 e's
< 1448345713 906459 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1448345716 701849 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1448345718 141144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45614&oldid=45613 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+244) 10Implementation: bugfix: crash on EOF
< 1448345726 806413 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.  but definitely not more than a thousand.
< 1448345737 801268 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30/1000
< 1448345739 388558 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.0e-2
< 1448345745 778041 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1000/30
< 1448345747 668777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 33.333333333333336
< 1448345761 665793 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.102.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt 1000
< 1448345764 474489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 31.622776601683793
< 1448345774 101530 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26*6
< 1448345775 936897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 156
< 1448345786 218446 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really about sqrt
< 1448345798 217069 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 26 letters, so at most 26 numerals
< 1448345881 113390 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a numeral smaller than a million never has more than 30 letters.
< 1448345925 319486 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for those larger, the length still never gets above a small fraction of the number itself
< 1448346048 862921 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1448346058 287772 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not quite right. forgot a part.
< 1448346118 408918 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "sevenhundredandseventyseventhousandsevenhundredandseventyseven"
< 1448346120 64419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 62
< 1448346187 918160 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "sevenhundredandseventyseventhousand"
< 1448346189 336693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 35
< 1448346215 879174 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but multiplying by 1000 gets you only 35-40 more letters.
< 1448346600 475297 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . group $ sort "sevenhundredandseventyseventhousand"
< 1448346603 757688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12
< 1448346606 521813 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1448346615 306144 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map length . group $ sort "sevenhundredandseventyseventhousand"
< 1448346618 320451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,4,7,2,6,1,1,4,2,2,3,1]
< 1448346637 20730 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 es
< 1448346811 592648 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1000/62
< 1448346813 111902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16.129032258064516
< 1448347068 300831 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45615&oldid=45614 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+229) 10new features < and >
< 1448347129 708894 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448347267 439909 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode pangrams imo
< 1448347312 114017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY
< 1448347354 279716 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 62*26
< 1448347355 792226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1612
< 1448347361 385069 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+2
< 1448347365 107962 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2
< 1448347366 595712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4
< 1448347369 311831 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1448347384 294355 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot knows its arithmetic
< 1448347388 246332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack
< 1448347388 388729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1448347392 821431 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 420+69
< 1448347394 369327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 489
< 1448347422 780639 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999*999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
< 1448347424 457254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...
< 1448347428 180928 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448347449 58171 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: lambdabot is too smart for you 
< 1448347453 285125 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh yea
< 1448347522 695388 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448347549 330424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let xs = 1:xs in xs
< 1448347549 676684 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 420+1337+69
< 1448347550 989511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1...
< 1448347551 419324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1826
< 1448347557 266657 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "seventhousandsevenhundredandseventyseven"
< 1448347559 492299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 40
< 1448347565 709391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26*40
< 1448347567 501768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1040
< 1448347574 73876 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "wew lad"
< 1448347576 87277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7
< 1448347593 284707 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm just length is not enough to prove it doesn't exceed a thousand
< 1448347637 885660 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do
< 1448347694 755464 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "my penis"
< 1448347696 378114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8
< 1448347700 197079 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx fam
< 1448347700 897538 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bounding the length of a pangram
< 1448347712 360425 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This pangram contains four As, one B, two Cs, one D, thirty Es, six Fs, five Gs, seven Hs, eleven Is, one J, one K, two Ls, two Ms, eighteen Ns, fifteen Os, two Ps, one Q, five Rs, twenty-seven Ss, eighteen Ts, two Us, seven Vs, eight Ws, two Xs, three Ys, & one Z."
< 1448347716 977597 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "my penis" in inches
< 1448347718 597496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:19: parse error on input ‘in’
< 1448347720 863952 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :kek
< 1448347735 971869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: lambdabot is not google hth
< 1448347755 540476 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel\
< 1448347761 903575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: Try Wolfram|Alpha, it still might not know. Or better, use a ruler
< 1448347773 344848 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1448347787 87596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Regardless whether you want the length of the string or of your penis)
< 1448347799 957380 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao
< 1448347801 741171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although a length of a string of text in inches would depend on the font, isn't it?)
< 1448347813 432894 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh yeah
< 1448347822 460685 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.111 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448347856 411413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all this
< 1448347865 208037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: get52 discovered lambdabot
< 1448347889 665007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this channel
< 1448347890 56446 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh yes
< 1448347896 922494 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bully pls
< 1448347897 69383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lambdabot is run the Haskell code; you can learn Haskell programming and then you can understand its working.
< 1448347919 318701 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 20\\\\3
< 1448347919 867479 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell isnt functional tbh fam
< 1448347920 760664 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘\\\\’
< 1448347925 976734 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww :(
< 1448347934 694137 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was added. Does it get deleted automaticalyl?
< 1448347970 632517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: Can you elaborate on that? I do not quite understand.
< 1448347993 582488 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :well really it's so far away from common lisp that it's basically object oreiented
< 1448347999 788020 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: I assume you've seen the wiki?
< 1448348002 152858 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it gets deleted when someone runs the @undefine command.
< 1448348004 769333 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1448348018 201643 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime
< 1448348018 343946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 10d 1h 1m 8s, longest uptime: 1m 10d 23h 44m 29s
< 1448348018 636257 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: Common lisp isn't the definition of "Functional"
< 1448348028 411159 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is smh fam
< 1448348039 41591 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when it quits i assume, but it hasn't done that
< 1448348039 526581 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your head out of your ass
< 1448348042 798676 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn
< 1448348043 601722 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language can be entirely unlike common lisp but still functional
< 1448348046 821276 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1448348054 422469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. unlambda iirc
< 1448348059 533434 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true tho
< 1448348062 241716 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: please be polite
< 1448348063 785761 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think unlambda is functional
< 1448348070 577359 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's object oriented
< 1448348070 770764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is functional and pure, Lisp is functional and impure
< 1448348077 168967 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur mom is impure
< 1448348078 385123 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :smh
< 1448348087 501264 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
> 1448348087 617513 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1448348094 9026 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mom**w is impure
< 1448348094 476810 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: i said, please be polit.
< 1448348097 193224 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+e
< 1448348114 687407 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom**w?
< 1448348127 67598 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: Surreal numbers. w is a surrogate little omega
< 1448348133 799330 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It basically means infinity
< 1448348135 789205 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought you were censoring yourself
< 1448348139 310442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not object oriented, although even if it is, it doesn't change it.
< 1448348145 478726 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i'm just fucking around
< 1448348146 377995 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No xD. I don't self-censor
< 1448348150 378955 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom**1=mom
< 1448348151 284968 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not object orient of course not 
< 1448348155 878954 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448348157 537903 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom**2=grandmom
< 1448348161 270446 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1448348165 550404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom**3=great-grandmom
< 1448348167 530928 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1448348173 610695 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom**w=great*-grandmom
< 1448348189 670568 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i was just playing around lol
< 1448348190 389177 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Familial arithmetic might be interesting)
< 1448348218 931157 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric : I came from the wiki btw
< 1448348221 782630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to be object oriented and functional, anyways.
< 1448348225 951021 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course.
< 1448348246 7139 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys seem quite a bit more knowledgeable then me heh
< 1448348250 471205 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (\\\\) a b = a + (1/b)
< 1448348251 787008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : : not an expression: ‘let (\\\\) a b = a + (1/b)’
< 1448348260 655458 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know haskell xD
< 1448348267 571924 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either tbh
< 1448348269 562043 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: We've been here a while xD.
< 1448348277 143035 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^)
< 1448348296 928247 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1448348296 935517 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1448348298 641469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\\\\) a b = a + (1/b)
< 1448348300 226607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:12: parse error on input ‘=’
< 1448348307 943698 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> a\\\\b = a + (1/b)
< 1448348308 419279 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fizzbuzz
< 1448348309 445536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: parse error on input ‘=’
< 1448348309 960715 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘fizzbuzz’
< 1448348310 998115 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: @let
< 1448348320 783663 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you!
< 1448348328 48828 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let a\\\\b = a + (1/b)
< 1448348329 806122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1448348334 271286 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the backslash operator
< 1448348343 686852 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is so unlike java, it can't be oop
< 1448348355 30900 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1448348369 106576 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is p gross tbh
< 1448348372 752081 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: He was doing what you did earlier. It was funny
< 1448348376 796309 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is awul
< 1448348378 934822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awful
< 1448348384 561089 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448348392 883020 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do oop in haskell but you'll get looked at weirdly
< 1448348401 728276 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ma mum**e is awful
< 1448348402 953780 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds hilarious
< 1448348417 846322 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e=1/w)
< 1448348425 186919 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e is epsilon here)
< 1448348461 726606 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so mum**e=root(mum, w) )
< 1448348495 489510 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10**w
< 1448348497 552149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10**w
< 1448348500 203389 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1448348502 944831 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1448348507 227433 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: Haskell doesn't do surreals
< 1448348507 771612 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 + 1
< 1448348509 871749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11
< 1448348519 863497 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even know what i'm doing tbh
< 1448348532 285768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like TeX? It is also so unlike Java..............
< 1448348548 133189 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur mom is unlike java :^)
< 1448348555 943872 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :because she's great
< 1448348558 480293 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kind
< 1448348566 404964 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let a~:^b = (a+b-b**2)*7/a
< 1448348567 737243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1448348576 540772 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13~:^7
< 1448348584 857724 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 := 11
< 1448348585 645391 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 13~:^7
< 1448348587 384397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Not in scope: data constructor ‘:=’
< 1448348587 526824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1448348587 526882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       ‘:+’ (imported from Data.Complex),
< 1448348588 105482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -15.615384615384615
< 1448348619 306019 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0 :+ 1)^2 == -1
< 1448348621 259154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1448348646 787847 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut
< 1448348663 374703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1448348672 452076 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::+ is a complex number constructor
< 1448348707 937015 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26*38
< 1448348709 824725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 988
< 1448348740 456799 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^(0:+1)
< 1448348742 238140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Could not deduce (Integral (Complex a0)) arising from a use of ‘^’
< 1448348742 380517 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     from the context (Num a)
< 1448348742 380598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       bound by the inferred type of it :: Num a => a at :1:1
< 1448348748 612263 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10+20
< 1448348750 925916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 30
< 1448348752 557183 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2**(0:+1)
< 1448348754 180029 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7692389013639721 :+ 0.6389612763136348
< 1448348759 478140 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr(55)
< 1448348761 214727 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '7'
< 1448348763 693299 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh...
< 1448348764 202299 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh neat
< 1448348774 620739 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr (69)
< 1448348776 152635 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Htf does that work?
< 1448348776 459536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'E'
< 1448348794 301110 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :because lambdabot is running python
< 1448348794 875212 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^)
< 1448348796 585496 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr(8601)
< 1448348798 305329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\8601'
< 1448348804 922679 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unichr(8601)
< 1448348806 737633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘unichr’
< 1448348811 925507 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord('l')
< 1448348813 849651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 108
< 1448348816 73886 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy
< 1448348817 133421 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> uchr(8601)
< 1448348818 792696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Not in scope: ‘uchr’
< 1448348818 935217 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Perhaps you meant ‘chr’ (imported from Data.Char)
< 1448348828 159823 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord('p')
< 1448348830 112461 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 112
< 1448348832 9337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord('λ')
< 1448348834 425896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 955
< 1448348836 952845 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah
< 1448348842 793478 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr(955)
< 1448348844 598836 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, haskell just somehow chose the same names (Pascal used those too i think)
< 1448348845 184217 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\955'
< 1448348870 767639 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say they're from Pascal but someone who knows Algol is just going to one-up me
< 1448348872 52183 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Aren't the python names straight outta C?
< 1448348884 498783 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are they?
< 1448348908 255802 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed so, though C probably got them from somewhere else. Like Pascal.
< 1448348908 795299 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know C a third as well haskell these days.

< 1448348924 884467 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do unichr?
< 1448349004 628605 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: I'm making a morphic character encoding
< 1448349018 753840 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D nice
< 1448349021 94037 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it
< 1448349032 83068 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's unichr? chr already does unicode.
< 1448349041 375280 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is morphic character encoding?
< 1448349043 482469 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not in haskell, it appears
< 1448349046 424672 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgive me i'm new haha
< 1448349048 298480 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ chr 955
< 1448349049 961030 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type ‘Char’ with ‘[Char]’
< 1448349050 104448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Expected type: String
< 1448349050 246838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       Actual type: Char
< 1448349052 378087 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1448349058 662533 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var [chr 955]
< 1448349060 820619 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : λ
< 1448349064 769125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this what you wanted?
< 1448349066 876079 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: It's a character enconing that's more than a lookup table
< 1448349071 642429 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1448349076 195646 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH yeah
< 1448349077 675535 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1448349091 968472 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm making an esoteric lang atm
< 1448349094 595182 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i came here lol
< 1448349097 318049 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, you can do \(COM:SUBSET, RING) to get the open subset operator
< 1448349101 712478 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally xD
< 1448349110 515467 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [chr 955] -- this is shown as an escaped string, therefore only ASCII
< 1448349112 387070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\955"
< 1448349113 390477 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 3 commands 
< 1448349122 958204 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A marriage between a negative number of people is... UNNATURAL! LULZ!)
< 1448349123 100300 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :addition, display, input
< 1448349135 927284 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need subtraction because it resets at 251
< 1448349137 904985 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^)
< 1448349140 658650 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1448349150 138772 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a bit like Deadfish
< 1448349155 135004 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not the same
< 1448349172 790268 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol good
< 1448349181 907858 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :was afraid I was doing exactly the same thing
< 1448349183 154084 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a second
< 1448349184 589490 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1448349187 162395 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://www.mezzacotta.net/dinosaur/?comic=252
< 1448349206 287307 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from DMM's dinosaur comics fanfic)
< 1448349290 656051 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the commands are pretty much brainf*cks
< 1448349303 921729 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: you'd need at least some kind of jump to be close to interesting
< 1448349305 579494 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not sure if I'm allowed to say f*ck here that's the only reason I censored myself
< 1448349314 803198 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I understand myname
< 1448349328 437563 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry for bothering u fam
< 1448349328 703045 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Or a clone commands thing. That works too
< 1448349334 199870 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ur patrician ways
< 1448349340 408809 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :;^(
< 1448349347 488434 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :251 is an usual place to reset
< 1448349349 53536 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not worthy of ur presence :^)
< 1448349352 901099 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 251
< 1448349353 284487 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :m'lad
< 1448349354 755276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :251: 251
< 1448349361 303931 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime too
< 1448349365 736107 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird
< 1448349383 790060 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he meant 250 -> 0
< 1448349394 806611 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case 251 being a prime is actually good
< 1448349416 490867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get52: we have nothing against saying brainfuck.  in fact i've been known to correct the spelling on the wiki.
< 1448349416 860671 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the name of this structure is in english
< 1448349428 650011 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1448349430 327643 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1448349438 146764 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1448349455 257179 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMHO, "Brainf*ck" is a curse word, but "Brainfuck" is not
< 1448349464 242301 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfiretruck
< 1448349467 613386 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the english name for (M,+,*) with (M,+) and (M\{0},*) being groups?
< 1448349489 772436 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have NO idea. Is it a ring?
< 1448349513 48624 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, rings don't need two groups
< 1448349519 75760 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1448349522 690528 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magma?
< 1448349527 508825 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german it's körper
< 1448349534 718005 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would translate into bod
< 1448349536 802953 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :body
< 1448349539 398471 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: a field hth
< 1448349544 374515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!
< 1448349547 992990 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah!
< 1448349604 376077 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh
< 1448349681 461753 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank da Hubble [telescope]?
< 1448349692 13885 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tdh
< 1448349692 718274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tdh: not found
< 1448349698 722527 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1448349701 770259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh
< 1448349704 333936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth.
< 1448349717 377274 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go
< 1448349719 291036 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS HTH THOUGH
< 1448349722 655992 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1448349723 751133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1448349730 458505 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WAS NOT HELPFUL
< 1448349735 842002 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hope that helps"
< 1448349736 354134 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1448349740 901601 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WE GO!
< 1448349748 322059 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then what the hell is tdh
< 1448349760 68677 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my first encounters here was me cursing about monads
< 1448349766 827139 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the following respond
< 1448349768 330699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK THE HUBBLE!
< 1448349770 746743 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads
< 1448349771 807787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.
< 1448349775 43598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I am concerned it is irrelevant in these cases whether or not "brainfuck" is a curse word, although it seems that to Rosetta Code it is considered as a curse word.
< 1448349779 627684 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOPE THIS HELPS
< 1448349780 676802 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to UD, "tall dark and handsome"
< 1448349791 937765 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1448349806 109507 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye sry if i wasnt interesting enough tbh im new
< 1448349808 771966 :get52!~jman@2601:18d:8101:8ada:665a:4ff:fead:bb6d PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1448349817 259869 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad
< 1448349818 364180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
< 1448349823 901375 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one
< 1448349835 689108 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UD has a (probably correct) definition of "too damn hilarious" at the *last* position
< 1448349839 829246 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was a very honest ("tbh") person.
< 1448349842 236597 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is wrong with `? monads
< 1448349849 530272 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm we're below 10% bots
< 1448349857 866979 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, below 9%
< 1448349869 236607 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa
< 1448349873 510318 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: that's not correct
< 1448349882 516921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itks that did help
< 1448349888 378142 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh.
< 1448349892 68818 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh
< 1448349912 842640 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: but to me that was much more plausible than other entries like teenage dickheads
< 1448349924 514966 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1448349993 301927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Get52 5*  10New user account
< 1448350002 619575 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i suspect shachaf for `? monads
< 1448350017 535736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1448350025 30083 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads
< 1448350026 77418 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras.
< 1448350027 186038 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ?
< 1448350028 646118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom
< 1448350029 838985 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you make this ^
< 1448350037 559011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/monad
< 1448350039 558146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf elliott oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 oerjan Gregor shachaf oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia
< 1448350042 409916 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I read that as "WHAT is wisdom")
< 1448350047 530429 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, not that one
< 1448350049 302783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I doubt it?
< 1448350053 429241 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/monads
< 1448350055 739182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf elliott oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan shachaf Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia
< 1448350058 607906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one.
< 1448350062 185091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's possible.
< 1448350077 89151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made up the other Magic: the Puzzling (puzzle.4) and you should test it please, because I may have done something wrong
< 1448350090 945859 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `
< 1448350092 5111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is the prefix to greatness.
< 1448350099 564858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should include a URL.
< 1448350127 556986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, I should include the absolute URL. It is:   http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.4
< 1448350159 767445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought you already knew what it was relative to, but perhaps not, I am a bit crazy)
< 1448350168 716135 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, what kind of magic is possible with your dnd latex commands?
< 1448350186 370425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I didn't know but I could find out, but that would be a lot more work than copying a complete URL.
< 1448350207 708465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is used only with Plain TeX, I don't know if it can be used with LaTeX at all (and isn't meant to be)
< 1448350221 607815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is that a puzzle? It doesn't ask any questions.
< 1448350224 657838 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1448350233 296874 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does it do?
< 1448350239 546807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Win the game" is implied if not otherwise specified.
< 1448350309 569548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: A lot, including sorting the list of skills, keep track of multiple character sheets, calculate ECL, ask the user what printing level, and more
< 1448350341 253563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the file to see what it is doing.
< 1448350496 424277 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1448350501 152072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A few other things are also implied if not otherwise specified, such as irrelevant cards in other zones, irrelevant cards in graveyard can't be cast from graveyard, you have priority at the given situation, no unlisted effects are waiting to happen, and various other stuff.
< 1448350524 825226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho the world needs more interactive character sheets
< 1448350604 394525 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-qjpvsvjcwnssemne QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1448350619 454172 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pvwqunfzkelqgdas JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448350671 478855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It can keep track of inventory and spell lists and money, and can do footnotes and chapter headings and session headings, and so on. You can even see level20.tex to see the use of these macros.
< 1448350680 92175 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 9*26
< 1448350681 798571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 234
< 1448350707 619522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program isn't an interactive character sheet though; it is just partially automatic.
< 1448350715 672817 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1448350754 79955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you understand this puzzle at all?
< 1448350760 89134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I do it wrong?
< 1448350780 450302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And do you understand my first three puzzles?)
< 1448350785 66706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it and I didn't know a lot of the cards.
< 1448350791 280677 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not more than 400
< 1448350793 740615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I decided it would probably be too much effort to understand.
< 1448350868 1225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Cards in opponent's library can damage you, so don't worry to look up all of them; after all they are in a random order so even if you know Lightning Bolt that's enough.
< 1448350891 395393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait brain fart
< 1448350894 283283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other cards can be look up and then make the printout I suppose
< 1448350896 624633 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10*26
< 1448350898 652302 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 260
< 1448350905 49355 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not
< 1448350938 305935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not difficult to look up; make the program to do it automatically if you want to (possibly at some time I might do such thing too)
< 1448351159 710030 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pvwqunfzkelqgdas QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1448351170 416725 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ksrdwauexcvroxtb JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448351587 106986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45616&oldid=45615 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+130) 10/* Examples */
< 1448351722 371691 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1448352125 662540 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07UberGenes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45617&oldid=45616 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10/* Python 2 */ wiki don't like ''
< 1448352227 608218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what kind of tricks can be done with a madness ability?
< 1448352879 911064 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 84+26*10
< 1448352881 421776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 344
< 1448352892 391525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1448352910 521128 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1448352917 785189 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 84+18*11
< 1448352919 383490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 282
< 1448353037 580526 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not above 300
< 1448354596 723877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine/aubergine.py14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45618&oldid=45452 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10bugfix
< 1448355066 686494 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:d044:22bc:bf4b:44f4 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448355888 171573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45619&oldid=45591 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+229) 10/* Examples */
< 1448356177 377880 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION concludes no letter is above 100

< 1448356230 230604 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which also eliminates the question of whether to use "and" after the hundreds
< 1448356388 984293 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would fix A and D except for whether to use "and" or "&" before the one Z
< 1448356472 26567 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448356678 680266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mornign
< 1448356697 969880 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mningor
< 1448357644 680356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're out of order
< 1448357699 355330 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnar
< 1448357755 244886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, good morning
< 1448357755 460697 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( afaiu) course. don't know if that extends to my isdn connection)
< 1448357767 588668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISDN CONNECTION?
< 1448357774 248700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why fungot sometimes reacts so slowly
< 1448357774 534513 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: on fnord? wouldn't a box, refrigerator, or at mit? we ( waterloo) beat you at the conference later....'
< 1448357800 641559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1448357800 784109 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1448361873 863656 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: add these https://github.com/highvoltage/shello/blob/master/shello.sh#L57
< 1448362557 337583 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448364588 847152 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523  giving you 9**3 possibilities <-- 3**9 hth
< 1448364588 989505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1448364702 358334 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 0 && y > x) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364704 344535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 5 tests and 10 shrinks):
< 1448364704 486764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 143.8179375507593 7074.224045838542
< 1448364708 817061 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1448364743 337305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 0 && y > x && not (isInfinity (x ** y)) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364743 479834 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .hs: 1: 75:Parse error: EOF
< 1448364748 703107 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 0 && y > x && not (isInfinity (x ** y))) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364750 135797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘isInfinity’
< 1448364750 278279 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: ‘isInfinite’ (imported from Prelude), ‘infin...
< 1448364757 529729 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 0 && y > x && not (isInfinite (x ** y))) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364759 362109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 2149 shrinks):
< 1448364759 504638 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.4089889678803982 14.274412076418368
< 1448364763 853327 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1448364786 467183 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 1 && y > x && not (isInfinite (x ** y))) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364788 481754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 18 tests and 23 shrinks):
< 1448364788 624254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.1743091876384109 11.511501398312754
< 1448364812 256289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x > 2 && y > x && not (isInfinite (x ** y))) ==> (x ** y > y ** x)
< 1448364813 699888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Gave up! Passed only 80 tests.
< 1448364822 363000 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALMOST TRUE
< 1448364875 317131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1448364877 231768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
< 1448364889 709772 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA
< 1448364889 969333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 241120Z 12008KT CAVOK 02/00 Q0994 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 15008KT
< 1448364894 783583 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOOOW MELTING
< 1448364922 597302 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:d044:22bc:bf4b:44f4 PART :#esoteric
< 1448365041 789436 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been years since I've seen snow
< 1448365112 111951 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1448365112 520314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 241136Z 08006KT 4SM -SN BKN016 OVC035 M05/M07 A3026 RMK SC6SC2 SLP250
< 1448365123 870164 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -SNing has begun.
< 1448365133 287215 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. Where are you now?
< 1448365184 925614 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old York
< 1448365209 750387 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it snowed the other night, but I was asleep and it didn't lie
< 1448365321 175891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1448365325 811992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to
< 1448365363 476182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do lots of stuff
< 1448365819 668789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah, I see you added a lot of new kanji to your bitmap font while I wasn't looking
< 1448365966 503389 :Patashu!Patashu@27.253.115.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1448366358 636398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: have you done a counting for who many of the grade 1 and 2 Kyōiku kanji you have in the font?
< 1448367247 350764 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1448367347 205523 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \oren\font has ꙮ ^^
< 1448367406 38431 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ
< 1448367406 993564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O]
< 1448367619 816277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, it does
< 1448367633 623999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was one of the earlier characters he's added, relatively speaking
< 1448367740 20221 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah, I compared, and it seems you only have two characters missing from grade 1 and 2 together: 教 数
< 1448367828 404819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in that case, I propose that you add those two, to complete the collection
< 1448368200 125558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a sharp cut, because you have less than half of the grade 3 kanji
< 1448368257 803051 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STICKER CHICKEN
< 1448368401 148528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can find interesting stuff in HTML comments on public webpages)
< 1448368695 376039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, a CSS file that starts with '