< 1448668804 100707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frotz < 1448668804 913301 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frotz? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1448669021 751733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inquisition < 1448669022 524492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inquisition? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1448669079 703424 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `le/rn inquisition/The Spanish Inquisition? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ ) < 1448669271 578880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448669389 478155 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1448669454 473628 :Gracco!~Gracco@162-229-33-75.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448669480 361417 :Gracco!~Gracco@162-229-33-75.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric < 1448670151 30707 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evenint-e < 1448670250 814761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but is it really good? < 1448670311 47938 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448670328 864139 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What elements should I use in Stack Magic? I want them to be real elements, and I want 12. I have 4: Hydrogen, Iron, Lead, and Gold < 1448670347 363070 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uranium and maybe plutonium, likely < 1448670370 869236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you even going to distinguish those two < 1448670395 911483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distance from Earth? Also, planethood. < 1448670401 818663 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tin, zinc, < 1448670425 286501 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copper, nickel, silver, mercury < 1448670462 688528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :potassium < 1448670473 243126 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sulphur, aluminium, carbon, < 1448670489 22566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just because I can never recall the english name of that element.) < 1448670489 783321 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I've decided on some. < 1448670512 985589 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of copper, I used silicon. Silicon will be used for control or something. < 1448670543 841738 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: the question mark thing < 1448670546 227904 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll replace Plutonium with Sulphur, and Osmium with Arsenic < 1448670558 757823 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I didn't include osmium < 1448670559 434241 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably use it for sentences like this? < 1448670585 970630 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any noble gases? < 1448670626 902048 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Argon < 1448670636 667208 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :argon, neon, krypton, xenon radon < 1448670638 721573 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's used for neutralization or something < 1448670652 373275 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i'm missing one < 1448670674 466263 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I bump it up to 16? < 1448670700 267304 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram is a good element < 1448670701 46613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, Helium < 1448670718 139683 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1448670719 440665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the English call it Tungsten < 1448670723 932207 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxygen, I suppose < 1448670741 176233 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but then the symbol W doesn't make sense < 1448670743 313242 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think it's called Tungsten here too, formerly Wolfram < 1448670749 630576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: W was for Wolfram < 1448670828 796576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use Tin or Copper? < 1448670888 122290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :copper could be useful for fighting crime < 1448670897 968101 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: How? < 1448670937 928517 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ChIv8ZjIY35WsQleHyLcmt-q5buNlPFTg_iAvmj7b_k/edit?usp=sharing < 1448670945 607797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Copper, British or Australian slang for a Police officer, hence the North American 'cop'" < 1448670971 750418 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448670988 337855 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448670989 577091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe it derives from copper helmets that the british police officers used to wear, but didn't verify.) < 1448671002 130108 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But should I use copper or should I use tin? < 1448671014 66121 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I replace some other element with copper? < 1448671055 708755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tin sounds kind of boring < 1448671060 197741 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1448671094 280725 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have 16 elements (4 bits), 8 forms (3 bits) < 1448671102 659736 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can represent a single element with an ASCII Character < 1448671105 271681 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a single item < 1448671108 437998 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of a base element < 1448671190 578584 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could bump it up to 32 I suppose < 1448671195 448956 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What do you think? < 1448671213 185102 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm calling Tungsten Wolfram because it sounds cooler < 1448671249 291232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though really, I'm likely going to wind up storing in strings, so to be fair it doesn't really matter < 1448671259 247761 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I use characters for save files < 1448671331 423724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think you need some sort of semantics :P < 1448671358 733897 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably xD < 1448671374 396442 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But should I bump it up to 32 elements? < 1448671392 590422 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what should the manifestations be? Currently I just have the 5 states of matter < 1448671483 869758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I'll bump it up to 32 < 1448671759 63348 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more slot < 1448671941 480237 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, 32 elements. Not going any higher than that. < 1448672164 429654 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Next, to figure out what's done with these materials. < 1448672584 908144 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Do you have any sense of realistic quantities? I'm making recipies, and need help figuring out the material cost of recipies; e.g. how much bronze is required to make armour < 1448672815 551106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448672816 251097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness < 1448672820 892537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bdsmreclist < 1448672821 595704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ YOU are out of order. < 1448672850 285694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-( < 1448672850 908571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☹ < 1448672862 823255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat index.html?dl=1812 < 1448672863 560107 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>>>++++++++++<<[->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<]>>[-]>>>++++++++++<[->-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<]>[-] < 1448672877 538649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1448672971 483923 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover! < 1448673101 882771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could be an ordinal which would you be < 1448673219 281268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: As in the type of number? That's a tough question... < 1448673220 122089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just refuse to be well-ordered. < 1448673234 257753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :constructivist scum! < 1448673295 244402 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so currently the design spec says you can make armour by making a mold for that type of armour (somehow) then having it on the stack above at least enough of the materials used, then mold furnacing it (by having the mold furnace be the selected tool) < 1448673333 429492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://countyoursheep.keenspot.com/d/20030611.html seems relevant (good night) < 1448673342 973092 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make an obsidian knife by hitting a piece of obsidian with a hammer then having stack: obsidian shard, string, hilt and using the "hands" tool < 1448673366 741825 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all text-based, mind you, and you have to juggle a stack to play < 1448673391 112319 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There'll also be a few Alchemical tools used for constructing magical items < 1448673471 616211 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention that all commands entered are sent through a semi-thue system. Yeah. < 1448673491 676501 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -n +1 dog < 1448673492 405253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1448673502 70105 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...What is that? < 1448673510 272529 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -n +1 cat < 1448673510 870690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ >^.^< < 1448673519 908266 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat faith < 1448673520 692900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448673525 240445 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat fu < 1448673525 991239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᶠᶸᶜᵏ♥ᵧₒᵤ < 1448673527 970729 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file faith < 1448673528 691226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith: empty < 1448673537 521292 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file madness < 1448673538 456009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness: data < 1448673542 533160 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat madness < 1448673543 111175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4,9S9,4T4,9O9,4P4,9 9,4T4,9H9,4E4,9 9,4M4,9A9,4D4,9N9,4E4,9S9,4S < 1448673547 923385 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1448673685 875533 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone, look at this file I created. < 1448673686 810498 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448673687 720060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 01,08yellow \ 113500 \ a \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort < 1448673701 335459 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what I'm doing xD < 1448673755 920691 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file 01,08yellow < 1448673756 530575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​01,08yellow: empty < 1448673784 581385 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what to put in the file! < 1448673789 47697 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unos momentos por favor. < 1448673838 236600 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 01,08yellow < 1448673839 113935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​01,09Just kidding! Green! < 1448673900 947576 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so mature and whatnot. < 1448674040 49201 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes. You are. < 1448674058 454404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make a small text game based on stacks and semi-thue systems. But I don't know what I'm doing xD < 1448674070 263914 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll move to a new doc < 1448674118 954789 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need exactly 6 elements < 1448674173 386052 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe some other nice number < 1448674214 790539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about... Earth, Fire, Water, Air, Wood, Metal, Void < 1448674228 204816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Does that look like a good combination of elements? < 1448674277 714378 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can answer that. But I *like* that combination of elements. < 1448674388 936979 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great! < 1448674477 499119 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think I should probably add one more so I can associate every element with an opposition < 1448674489 797187 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1448674526 513240 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth and air seem to kind of be considered opposites, and likewise fire and water. < 1448674536 787026 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wood and metal are kind of "opposite-like". < 1448674548 54125 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Organic versus inorganic. < 1448674554 102675 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What should be the inverse of void then? Light? < 1448674560 938775 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1448674565 693709 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what do you mean by "void"? < 1448674589 918449 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Nothingness; the complete absence of anything, including possibly spacetime itself. < 1448674639 812820 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, oooh, you start with a semi-randomized amount of each element and have to work from there < 1448674641 587542 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If void is the absence of spacetime, then maybe the opposite of that is the presence of spacetime. < 1448674649 844324 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fabric of spacetime", so to speak. < 1448674654 278566 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm kind of making up BS here. < 1448674665 291939 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: True, but that doesn't seem particularly useful xD. < 1448674669 194135 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light seems to be OK. < 1448674682 689668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get more fire, you must burn wood. To get more wood, you must plant trees. < 1448674684 50006 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think that thinking of space itself as being made of something is kind of a cool thought. < 1448674729 219781 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have only a bit of wood and need more fire NOW, you might just have to sacrifice future usage of wood in alchemy in order to survive in the short-term < 1448674784 364777 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you have to plant wood in earth xD < 1448674814 494405 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what use is void? < 1448674886 156052 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Well, if you inverse combine air and void (just making up possible mechanics here), for example, you could possibly suck the air out of the atmosphere. < 1448674889 873060 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1448675029 444455 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Do you think you could be any help with creating combinations for spells? < 1448675709 448699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~ATH14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45685&oldid=45684 5* 03162.231.140.49 5* (+7) 10 < 1448676487 535544 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's tough to get people to collaborate with you, isn't it? < 1448676498 671714 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes. Very much so. < 1448676499 422600 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1448676532 697756 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've... I wouldn't say I've given up getting people to collaborate with me. < 1448676539 972832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Seed14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45686&oldid=17635 5* 03162.231.140.49 5* (+254) 10 < 1448676579 519998 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I usually assume that if I want some project to get done, I'll probably have to do at least, like, 85% of the work or whatever. < 1448676617 50261 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448676663 448479 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can also count on being able to get the occasional bit of advice. < 1448676678 331234 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for helping create combinations for spells... < 1448676695 508168 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know the context here. I'd have to learn more about your ideas. < 1448676721 593803 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, you do have a lot of interesting ideas. < 1448676833 257661 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that *I* remember finding most interesting is the language where the syntax forms a graph instead of just a tree. < 1448677180 74952 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bdsmreclist < 1448677180 699983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ YOU are out of order. < 1448677496 269167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, there are 3 ways of storing data: The inventory stack, the accumulator, and the satchel, together called the Stacchel < 1448677536 241617 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can manipulate a stack normally (though $ for drop actually puts something in your satchel and : for dup takes something out of your satchel based on the ToS) < 1448677551 653763 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to combine items, you must ^ (accumulate) into an already-filled accumulator < 1448677806 45769 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448677885 49803 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448679198 99107 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448679315 740492 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two new elements I'm considering adding: Information and Obfuscation < 1448679325 33468 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does tswett think? < 1448679533 418898 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 commands. \()^_$:!%@. < 1448679549 599829 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you can also do verbose commands if it suits you better, which it probably does < 1448679727 27321 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448679906 48080 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448679973 135643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448680269 320933 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448680292 648934 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448680804 550339 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448681052 480155 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You active? < 1448681525 307219 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1448681526 154439 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1448682228 160146 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1448682257 494369 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what documentation do you have so far? < 1448683031 837625 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have a document specifying the elements, an overview of the gameplay, a list of commands, and am just now starting on the recipes. < 1448683050 421617 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a quite simple game for now, but it might get more advanced < 1448683102 573948 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448683108 922781 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a game or a language? < 1448683269 779133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it both? < 1448683574 42674 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:4c9c:faa2:583:7e1f JOIN :#esoteric < 1448683603 46813 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: zzo38: It's a game that works on a stack-based language, though one of the beautiful things is that it need not be typed by hand: One can engineer a client that does it for you < 1448683706 921308 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:4c9c:faa2:583:7e1f PART :#esoteric < 1448683724 901036 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you still need to understand stacks ;) < 1448683741 741883 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless it's a REALLY high-level client, in which case it's no longer a fun game) < 1448684083 99984 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks NICK :Hoolootwo < 1448684142 373367 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it indeed turns out to be a fun game in the first place) < 1448684358 307911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Gathering uses stack too < 1448684485 550168 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about magic the gathering card deck of programming language? < 1448685383 816296 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDeam < 1448685670 120518 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448685695 582908 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448686277 713198 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448686305 658087 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448686470 689523 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1448686558 485090 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1448686558 647262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett said 5h 41m 15s ago: So can you give a counterexample to my assertion that if a function is differentiable at a point, then it's also differentiable on a disc surrounding that point? < 1448686569 326864 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448686595 927660 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448686650 313851 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett i already did, and mauris repeated it when you saw it. < 1448686650 514444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448688791 600581 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448688824 299313 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448688926 574924 :MC8_!~zuzak@wikimedia/microchip08 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448688992 140047 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448689005 64139 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689048 553742 :MC8!~zuzak@wikimedia/microchip08 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448689048 754033 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448689078 370806 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689178 257975 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett I don't think that works. I think in the complex numbers, that's not differentiable at 0. <-- it works if the original function is bounded hth < 1448689178 420271 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448689214 20356 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689285 112281 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett in fact then you don't even need a continuous function to start with < 1448689285 274229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448689324 332969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689324 936916 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689325 98815 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689325 260854 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689382 158553 :j-bot!~j-bot@45.79.186.84 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689384 641052 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448689410 377676 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com NICK :trn < 1448689454 827315 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to finish learning discussions before sending @tells < 1448689462 120671 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reading < 1448689651 977167 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689652 178265 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689653 983920 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689686 30161 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448689954 550507 :puck1pedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690165 841342 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448690166 3363 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448690167 933442 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :*.net 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:digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690257 376923 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splætt < 1448690370 905479 :kline_!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690529 237092 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690531 573207 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690532 630648 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1448690532 793642 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690571 134265 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448690576 171408 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1448690622 614966 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448691008 255527 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448691771 678515 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1448691893 185609 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks NICK :Hoolootwo < 1448692533 31964 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448692582 465612 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448693643 215790 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Perhaps I should add foriegn-language commands to MSM < 1448694171 455166 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net QUIT : < 1448694210 622542 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448694553 577320 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448694736 133432 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448694822 966969 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448695318 691972 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695319 403221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 01,08yellow \ 113500 \ a \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort < 1448695327 948523 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file 0 < 1448695328 666015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0: ASCII text < 1448695331 522396 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 0 < 1448695332 295127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo code injection < 1448695336 184273 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm 0 < 1448695337 925279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695345 296857 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file 113500 < 1448695346 127443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :113500: ASCII text, with very long lines, with CRLF line terminators < 1448695351 619005 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 113500 < 1448695352 199783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--[------->++<]>-.[->+++<]>.+++++.-----------.+++++++++.+++++++++.+[->+++<]>++.+.--[--->+<]>-.--[->++<]>.--[->++<]>-.+.++[->+++<]>++.+++++.++++++.[->+++++<]>+++.+[--->+<]>+++.++[->+++<]>.>++++++++++.-[->++++<]>-.[->+++<]>.+++++.-----------.+++++++++.+++++++++.+[->+++<]>++.+.--[--->+<]>-.--[->++<]>.--[->++<]>-.+.++[->+++<]>++.+++++.+++++.++++++.[ < 1448695358 751676 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm 113500 < 1448695360 557172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695362 994737 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file a < 1448695363 580215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a: ASCII text < 1448695365 502529 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat a < 1448695366 189972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah//c < 1448695371 524365 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm a < 1448695373 560753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695375 327476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695376 206535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness < 1448695380 356460 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm a.out < 1448695382 483239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695384 990924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file a.o < 1448695385 626206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped < 1448695390 339723 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm a.o < 1448695392 486072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695396 530033 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat argv.py < 1448695397 172113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :import sys \ print(sys.argv) < 1448695401 393766 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm argv.py < 1448695404 93151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695410 697940 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat blah < 1448695411 287830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1448695414 155882 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm blah < 1448695415 918757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695424 331574 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls blah* < 1448695425 224023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access blah*: No such file or directory < 1448695433 252458 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695434 92724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness \ MaFV \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ pas < 1448695456 200714 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls *la* < 1448695456 977556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access *la*: No such file or directory < 1448695470 730410 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls blah* < 1448695471 502112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah < 1448695479 537676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1448695484 178420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat blah \ blah < 1448695484 853984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1448695485 328718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :morn, oerjan < 1448695488 864030 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm blah \ blah < 1448695490 794220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695495 465780 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning FireFly < 1448695504 573587 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat blah \ blah \ blah < 1448695505 198394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695512 510798 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm blah \ blah \ blah < 1448695514 306810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695525 689261 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file dc < 1448695526 354218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc: ASCII text < 1448695529 45701 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dc < 1448695529 664530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! ls -e a < 1448695534 734502 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm dc < 1448695536 370204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695555 948616 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat error.log < 1448695556 779676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I 5053 pci_id: con ing! \ I 4681 ehci 0xf43d000:15: regista14: [0xbffff 0xfed nosabled 00-02] Zonseres: brips byted nored) \ W 3654 e8] PGTT ASF! 00f00000003.2: 0x000 - 0000: 00009dbfffec00000: Pround/f1743colled \ I 4076 verse.' \ I 4764 He trusts to you to set them free, \ I 858 your pocket?' he went on, turning to Alice. \ I 898 would be offende < 1448695567 675525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file error.log < 1448695568 437048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error.log: ASCII text, with very long lines < 1448695574 381710 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits error.log < 1448695575 964092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1448695579 888945 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm error.log < 1448695581 916165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695588 155536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file etc < 1448695588 784613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc: directory < 1448695594 250906 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls etc < 1448695595 767549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luarocks < 1448695602 991987 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file etc/* < 1448695603 657816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc/*: ERROR: cannot open `etc/*' (No such file or directory) < 1448695608 429797 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file etc/* < 1448695609 180572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc/luarocks: directory < 1448695616 144585 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find etc < 1448695616 856930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc \ etc/luarocks \ etc/luarocks/config.lua < 1448695638 262496 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep luarocks bin/* < 1448695639 717655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/luarocks:local command_line = require("luarocks.command_line") \ bin/luarocks:program_name = "luarocks" \ bin/luarocks:commands.help = require("luarocks.help") \ bin/luarocks:commands.pack = require("luarocks.pack") \ bin/luarocks:commands.unpack = require("luarocks.unpack") \ bin/luarocks:commands.build = require("luarocks.build") \ bin/luaroc < 1448695665 689184 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695666 625645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness \ MaFV \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quo < 1448695676 761641 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file factor < 1448695677 590039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: directory < 1448695684 315572 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find factor < 1448695685 10389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor \ factor/factor.image < 1448695695 893473 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep factor bin/* < 1448695696 737335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file bin/units matches < 1448695715 549357 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep factor.image bin/* < 1448695716 420973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695717 268708 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file factor/factor.image < 1448695717 938497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor/factor.image: data < 1448695725 446874 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hexdump -C factor/factor.image < 1448695726 146947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexdump: invalid option -- ' ' \ usage: hexdump [-bcCdovx] [-e fmt] [-f fmt_file] [-n length] \ [-s skip] [file ...] \ hd [-bcdovx] [-e fmt] [-f fmt_file] [-n length] \ [-s skip] [file ...] < 1448695729 564631 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448695732 481471 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hexdump -C factor/factor.image < 1448695733 233972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 0c 0d 0e 0f 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| \ 00000010 00 00 5c 2c e1 7f 00 00 e0 fb bb 05 00 00 00 00 |..\,............| \ 00000020 00 f0 11 28 e1 7f 00 00 20 56 f5 00 00 00 00 00 |...(.... V......| \ 00000030 2c f3 65 2c e1 7f 00 00 05 00 5c 2c e1 7f 00 00 |,.e,......\,....| \ 00000040 25 00 5c 2c e1 7 < 1448695749 733623 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits factor/factor.image < 1448695751 501599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull sgeo < 1448695758 945958 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1448695772 725441 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 111 < 1448695773 348212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :111: 3 37 < 1448695776 603299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably best to keep it for now < 1448695780 707068 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1448695781 964292 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695782 798783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ good \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness \ MaFV \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quo < 1448695788 315824 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file faith < 1448695788 996108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith: empty < 1448695792 667232 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm faith < 1448695794 643529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695797 306310 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file fu < 1448695798 4132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fu: UTF-8 Unicode text < 1448695801 498981 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat fu < 1448695802 200901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᶠᶸᶜᵏ♥ᵧₒᵤ < 1448695806 227858 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm fu < 1448695808 110245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695812 889798 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file head < 1448695813 594779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: empty < 1448695816 320017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm head < 1448695818 88582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695820 803112 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file hello < 1448695821 414248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0x3db23553f95ba53719226a2c73a0ad9d79e975ab, not stripped < 1448695828 400797 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hello < 1448695830 25895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695835 7934 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file hello.c < 1448695835 688927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.c: ASCII text < 1448695839 230341 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hello.c < 1448695839 803165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const char main[] = "AXAYAZA[A\\ATX-pppp-0```- ///P^VTXH10XP4>40PZ414>P_\x0f\x05XATASARAQAP\xc3Hello, world!\n"; < 1448695844 979992 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1448695845 794308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ ul.emm < 1448695856 946109 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv hello.c src < 1448695859 33828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695863 849218 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695864 621757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness \ MaFV \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.p < 1448695869 923946 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hi < 1448695870 574072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1448695872 656184 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hi < 1448695874 471880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695876 680093 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hours < 1448695877 302170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695880 733456 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hours < 1448695882 594087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695889 604689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm index* < 1448695890 222934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `index*': No such file or directory < 1448695893 571953 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm index* < 1448695895 830100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695899 16744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le < 1448695899 590943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: le: Is a directory < 1448695903 260796 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1448695908 858036 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat letersort < 1448695909 513568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int compare(char *s,char *c){return*c-*s;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while( \ 1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c \ ==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}} < 1448695929 460869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*sor* < 1448695930 397166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*sor*: No such file or directory < 1448695937 237217 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm letersort < 1448695939 216639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695940 513901 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448695941 596080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ madness \ MaFV \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.ppy \ script.py \ selflink \ share \ src \ temp < 1448695947 233348 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat madness < 1448695947 958391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4,9S9,4T4,9O9,4P4,9 9,4T4,9H9,4E4,9 9,4M4,9A9,4D4,9N9,4E4,9S9,4S < 1448695951 437279 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm madness < 1448695953 533936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448695956 142913 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file lib < 1448695956 707905 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib: directory < 1448695962 94531 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find lib < 1448695962 872475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib \ lib/frink \ lib/c++decl \ lib/interp \ lib/dcc \ lib/frink.jar \ lib/cdecl \ lib/karma < 1448695969 272490 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file MaFV < 1448695970 129235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MaFV: C source, ASCII text < 1448695973 957939 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat MaFV < 1448695974 587676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ \ int c; \ \ void s() \ { \ unsigned int m = 0xFFFF; \ #define F(m,n,v,c,b) \ \ for (int v = 0; v < 16; v++) { \ \ if ((m & (1 << v)) && (c)) { \ \ unsigned int n = m - (1 << v); \ \ b \ \ < 1448695990 947220 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url MaFV < 1448695991 750823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/MaFV < 1448696021 237418 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/Ma* < 1448696022 165518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/Ma*: No such file or directory < 1448696030 193250 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits MaFV < 1448696032 61580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1448696036 899099 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm MaFV < 1448696038 771481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696040 223988 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696040 927324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ nwzouew \ oerjan \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.ppy \ script.py \ selflink \ share \ src \ temp.o \ test \ test2 < 1448696052 254825 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat nwzouew < 1448696052 892875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: nwzouew: Is a directory < 1448696056 952463 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1448696063 357066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find nwzouew < 1448696063 917720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nwzouew < 1448696076 905926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l nw* < 1448696077 723970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 < 1448696087 438325 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir nwzouew < 1448696098 836822 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir nwzouew < 1448696099 479420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696104 14771 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat oerjan < 1448696104 800214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: oerjan: Is a directory < 1448696110 786418 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find oerjan < 1448696111 391375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1448696117 246749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir oerjan < 1448696117 941303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696127 685996 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat people.py < 1448696128 323530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696132 875648 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm people.py < 1448696134 748347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696138 72850 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat pref < 1448696138 644053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1256 ++++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>----.>-.<<++++.>>>++++.<+.++.<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+.+++.<++++.>>-------------.<<-----.>>-------------------------------------------.>.<<---.<++.-------.>+.<+.+++++.>>>.<<---------.>>++++++++++++.------------.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++++++.<<++ < 1448696143 309519 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm pref < 1448696145 960079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696148 307306 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat prefs < 1448696148 932919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1110 ++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>++++++++>++++++++<<<<-]>----.>>>-.<++++.<++++.>>+.++.<<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+.>>>---------.<++++.>----.<-----.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------------.>>+.<++.-------.>+.<+.+++++.<.<--------.>++++++++++++.------------.>--------------------------------------------.>------.++.++++++++.<---.+ < 1448696151 961989 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm prefs < 1448696154 355699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696156 457568 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696157 196812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.ppy \ script.py \ selflink \ share \ src \ temp.o \ test \ test2 \ testbegin \ testend \ twolines \ Virgolang < 1448696163 725926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat py.py < 1448696164 380725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696167 170033 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm py.py < 1448696169 15385 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696172 902372 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file quines < 1448696173 702064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines: directory < 1448696180 517282 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat random_elliott < 1448696181 312799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott \ a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1448696187 991089 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm random_elliott < 1448696189 677075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696193 235122 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat real < 1448696193 873211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: real: No such file or directory < 1448696202 330468 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls real* < 1448696203 218696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real < 1448696212 594331 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat real* < 1448696213 253526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: real: No such file or directory < 1448696224 911612 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1448696230 200065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evil < 1448696233 836926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1448696238 429157 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rev real < 1448696239 190248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rev: real: open failed: No such file or directory < 1448696243 933766 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1448696247 44585 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1448696252 535830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file real < 1448696253 171410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real: broken symbolic link to `wisdom/{the reals}' < 1448696259 213910 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1448696262 173982 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm real < 1448696264 521026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696267 551435 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696268 322816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ script.ppy \ script.py \ selflink \ share \ src \ temp.o \ test \ test2 \ testbegin \ testend \ twolines \ Virgolang \ VirgoLang \ Wierd \ wisdom \ w < 1448696279 399664 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.ppy < 1448696279 958441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x in users: \ print(t+x) < 1448696284 294252 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm script.ppy < 1448696286 242664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696291 528123 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1448696292 183734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :users = ['hppavilion1', 'Not ZombieCheney'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file (If you did it, you are hardcore):' \ for x in users: \ print(x+', ') < 1448696303 511770 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm script.py < 1448696305 135377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696311 746339 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l seflink < 1448696312 539612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access seflink: No such file or directory < 1448696315 901233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l selflink < 1448696316 672082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 3 Jun 12 03:18 selflink < 1448696323 362121 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm selflink < 1448696325 472356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696332 973440 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm temp.o < 1448696334 728441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696337 614219 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1448696338 284258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0110010000110001100010011001100011110000011100 < 1448696340 751465 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1448696342 786659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696343 554327 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test2 < 1448696344 149657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1448696347 511776 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test2 < 1448696349 139747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696352 586738 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testbegin < 1448696353 264330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​たとえばこのメセージ < 1448696359 207343 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm testbegin < 1448696360 916326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696362 366221 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696363 61200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ testend \ twolines \ Virgolang \ VirgoLang \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1448696367 91813 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testend < 1448696367 741435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1448696370 712815 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm testend < 1448696372 320296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696375 812867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat twolines < 1448696376 474509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first \ second < 1448696381 273853 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm twolines < 1448696383 197172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696389 189514 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Virgolang < 1448696389 885572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: Virgolang: Is a directory < 1448696394 985666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls Virgolang < 1448696395 777091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696401 333615 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir Virgolang < 1448696401 982807 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696407 37768 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir VirgoLang < 1448696407 680648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696414 761520 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir Wierd < 1448696415 309945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `Wierd': Not a directory < 1448696419 355758 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Wierd < 1448696419 977581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ Wierd - Esolang \ \ \ \ 40PZ414>P_\x0f\x05XATASARAQAP\xc3Hello, world!\n"; < 1448696553 101514 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff {share,src}/hello < 1448696553 735458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff: src/hello: No such file or directory < 1448696554 447517 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` paste share/radio* < 1448696555 309088 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/share/radio.php%3Fout%3Dinline%26shuffle%3D1%26limit%3D1%26filter%3D%2AMitamineLab%2A < 1448696563 231437 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/hello < 1448696564 121321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>......@.....@..................@.8..@....................@.......@.....:.......:......... ...................@......@.....$.......$..............Qtd...........................................................GNU.ﲜ@+Sˆ < 1448696607 325119 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: share/ is often where i put things from . that i don't want to delete < 1448696615 566019 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1448696616 435758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ hello.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ ul.emm < 1448696618 85746 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448696630 928255 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a point in keeping radio* though < 1448696651 952274 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv src/hello.c share/hello2.c < 1448696654 252212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696671 466996 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*radio* < 1448696672 327435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*radio*: No such file or directory < 1448696684 123197 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep radio bin/* < 1448696685 106393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696714 666031 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: anyway, i'm not usually cleaning out other than the top. < 1448696721 231109 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696721 973677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1448696730 889651 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense, it's mostly /hackenv that matters anyway < 1448696740 514741 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep autowel bin/* < 1448696741 272313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/autowelcome:[ "$1" == "on" ] && echo enabled > autowelcome_status; [ "$1" == "off" ] && echo disabled > autowelcome_status; echo "Autowelcome $(cat autowelcome_status)." < 1448696751 164863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1448696760 204544 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there a problem? < 1448696773 672142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is autowelcome writing a state file? < 1448696775 988902 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits autowelcome_* < 1448696777 773157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett tswett < 1448696782 215403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That defeats the whole spirit. < 1448696783 605894 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask tswett < 1448696817 224406 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the spirit? < 1448696843 6922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter now that it's defeated. < 1448696859 181918 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv autowelcome_status share; sed -i 's!autow!share/autow!' bin/autowelcome < 1448696861 198793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696866 653791 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome < 1448696867 431714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: autowelcome_status: No such file or directory \ Autowelcome . < 1448696871 257098 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448696878 318363 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1448696885 445424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1448696896 375251 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat autowelcome_status < 1448696897 131968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabled < 1448696924 505619 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/autowelcome < 1448696925 176681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[ "$1" == "on" ] && echo enabled > autowelcome_status; [ "$1" == "off" ] && echo disabled > autowelcome_status; echo "Autowelcome $(cat autowelcome_status)." < 1448696938 801397 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try !g? < 1448696950 450214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!autow!share/autow!`g' bin/autowelcome < 1448696951 78901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 21: unknown option to `s' < 1448696954 736567 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1448696959 562303 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!autow!share/autow!g' bin/autowelcome < 1448696961 351294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696965 198875 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome < 1448696965 818328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: share/autowelcome_status: No such file or directory \ Autowelcome . < 1448696972 817468 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1448696972 999687 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448696978 975005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1448696985 112110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv autowelcome_status share < 1448696987 57922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448696988 859157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome < 1448696989 530402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autowelcome disabled. < 1448696991 534351 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1448696995 124948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448696995 839664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1448697034 780240 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :short enough. not sure about wisdom.pdf, i doubt it's up to date anyway < 1448697034 942223 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat :-( :-D cat dog canary < 1448697035 738631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `cat :-( :-D cat dog canary ' < 1448697046 15289 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448697050 63906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat :-\( :-D cat dog canary < 1448697050 727555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☹ \ ☺ \ Meow~~ >^.^< \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ \ Spjætt! < 1448697055 179970 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary is essential. the others are jokes. < 1448697061 638149 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1448697072 932542 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, canary doesn't say 'chirp chirp' anymore < 1448697077 599088 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits canary < 1448697079 220216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan ais523 shachaf ais523 oerjan oerjan ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 ais523 shachaf int-e oerjan elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull c00kiemon5ter Phantom_Hoover elliott oerjan shachaf elliott ais523 elliott < 1448697080 218267 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been changes a lot < 1448697082 541389 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*d < 1448697091 686979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I expected anything else < 1448697201 201873 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's even been a directory, which is why `revert now gives a (harmless) error message... < 1448697231 991948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately changing it back didn't fix it, the error applies when it has _ever_ been a directory... < 1448697238 5842 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1448697241 866130 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what'd be cool? < 1448697247 399129 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has been supposed to fix it for a long time. < 1448697247 759166 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A videogame about telling a story. < 1448697286 676435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'fix' as in purge the history of it ever being a directory, essentially? < 1448697315 908417 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: not necessarily. he (or Gregor`) could also fix the actual script, i assume... < 1448697341 396608 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it'd just break again the next time someone does it... < 1448697363 186827 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that's true < 1448697433 974339 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complaints < 1448697434 709527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: complaints: No such file or directory < 1448697440 15331 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints < 1448697440 717771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints file lacks file extension making it look like a directory. Which is confusing < 1448697449 603116 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls Complaints < 1448697450 271532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints < 1448697454 884295 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :``ls Complaints < 1448697455 495956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ls: not found < 1448697461 697936 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls Complaints < 1448697462 692528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints < 1448697468 518467 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, how do I linux? < 1448697484 293986 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: that's not an error message, it's an actual complaint that it looks like a directory hth < 1448697494 364029 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i believe zzo38 made it) < 1448697496 345355 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Really? < 1448697505 354005 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1448697510 847229 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1448697511 735372 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits Complaints < 1448697512 549313 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confusing. < 1448697513 313892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] int-e mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ < 1448697521 461017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe not him < 1448697521 888001 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should file a complaint about it being confusing. < 1448697531 398540 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do that. < 1448697534 216271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1448697534 923726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" >> Complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1448697537 130144 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bi/*comp* < 1448697537 889763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bi/*comp*: No such file or directory < 1448697538 817874 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448697544 125005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps to not typo < 1448697545 693199 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, I think I did that, didn't I xD < 1448697589 937201 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That complaint was filed by me < 1448697594 526920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log Complaints | grep summary: < 1448697595 627255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: complain Complaints file lacks file extension making it look like a directory. Which is confusing \ summary: ` true > Complaints \ summary: echo > Complaints \ summary: complain Bye \ summary: echo Hi >> Complaints < 1448697606 731830 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1448697617 190094 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain The above complaint looks like an error message, but it's actually a complaint < 1448697619 14859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1448697629 624084 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints < 1448697630 899815 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints file lacks file extension making it look like a directory. Which is confusing \ The above complaint looks like an error message, but it's actually a complaint < 1448697649 628821 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*compl* < 1448697650 388179 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/complain \ bin/complaints < 1448697653 868116 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1448697654 30032 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did I just ruin it? xD < 1448697654 587974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 Complaints < 1448697664 732214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing we cannot fix < 1448697670 352314 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complaints < 1448697670 932298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -l Complaints < 1448697676 305153 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1448697689 992150 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cute < 1448697699 948383 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does wc do again? xD < 1448697701 300465 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better not move the database < 1448697701 982872 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dc < 1448697702 700594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l Complaint bin < 1448697703 795690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/complaints \ bin/complain < 1448697722 809998 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man dc < 1448697724 867392 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: word count (or line count, in this case) < 1448697725 188157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1448697727 881658 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448697732 615638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448697749 53392 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ke < 1448697749 642575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ke: not found < 1448697772 128462 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I would think any two-letter combination would be a linux command that does exactly what you expect < 1448697776 996391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Complaints Complaints.mp3; sed -i 's!Complaints!Complaints.mp3!' bin/complain < 1448697779 132736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448697790 707475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that should fix all the outstanding complaints hth < 1448697807 107916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you forgot to fix bin/complaints hth < 1448697812 322650 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooooooooooow < 1448697812 598263 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448697815 95771 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448697815 818046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 01,08yellow \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ ibin \ interps \ le \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1448697828 855125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!Complaints!Complaints.mp3!' bin/complaints < 1448697830 750177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448697856 163591 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints.mp3 < 1448697856 936806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints file lacks file extension making it look like a directory. Which is confusing \ The above complaint looks like an error message, but it's actually a complaint < 1448697859 776995 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain now the former complaints make no sense because the complaints file was moved < 1448697861 718764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1448697867 84477 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complaints < 1448697867 760690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: complaints: No such file or directory < 1448697881 270215 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints.mp3 < 1448697881 885382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints file lacks file extension making it look like a directory. Which is confusing \ The above complaint looks like an error message, but it's actually a complaint \ now the former complaints make no sense because the complaints file was moved < 1448697895 253963 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a very complainy human being < 1448697905 269286 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1448697917 225736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why would you have a directory called Complaints.mp3 tmns < 1448697977 572145 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain The complaints above are not using periods properly. < 1448697979 481050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1448698018 325317 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1448698019 41873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 Complaints.mp3 < 1448698027 755450 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1448698030 976311 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes it lose its charm < 1448698031 910920 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that might be a problem. < 1448698089 430580 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: What does? < 1448698116 531045 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think `complaints is supposed to number the Complaints, not the Complaints.mp3 < 1448698210 627290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i ln -s Complaints.mp3 Complaints && wc -l Complaints && rm Complaints < 1448698242 31362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i mv Complaints 'Complaints filed' < 1448698275 666170 :teo_anarcho!~georg_ana@193.96.224.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448698275 828201 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448698276 467411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1448698283 478574 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teo_anarcho: YOU SAW NOTHING < 1448698307 924628 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1448698308 517127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1448698313 704865 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1448698314 503736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :313 < 1448698316 325826 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good idea < 1448698322 777627 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I still don't know how to linux < 1448698323 359131 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? I,I < 1448698324 150341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1448698351 802506 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file evil < 1448698352 390950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil: directory < 1448698354 460302 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file evil/313 < 1448698355 291800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil/313: ASCII text < 1448698358 519365 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448698359 706557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil/313 < 1448698360 394726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill a puppy every day. < 1448698368 947796 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1448698369 842745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1448698409 218992 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fortune < 1448698410 368416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Spock, did you see the looks on their faces?" \ "Yes, Captain, a sort of vacant contentment." < 1448698411 260019 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we make something to counteract `evil? < 1448698417 934601 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is that what `fortune is? < 1448698439 863214 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1448698445 365004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448698446 217443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes strength to admit your own weaknesses. < 1448698447 270005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what set of fortunes HackEgo has < 1448698467 731705 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/good < 1448698468 291792 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find good -type f | shuf -n1)" < 1448698468 633934 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: tswett already did, he got a bout of bad conscience < 1448698469 201998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hi,hi < 1448698489 891107 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( find "$0" -type f ) < 1448698495 635822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, how about a `sin command that randomly selects a deadly sin from a directory? Sort of like evil, but we really just dump things we hate people doing. You know what? Nevermind. < 1448698504 323106 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sin < 1448698504 981372 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/sin: No such file or directory < 1448698514 164758 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: `evil doesn't work the same < 1448698528 159079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, there's the uppercase too < 1448698541 474329 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too bad < 1448698562 752756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'echo "$0"' > bin/dollarzero; chmod +x bin/dollarzero; dollarzero; rm bin/dollarzero < 1448698563 447317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/dollarzero < 1448698575 791546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've used mkx < 1448698593 549967 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dollarzero < 1448698594 124123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dollarzero: not found < 1448698595 322106 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mkx < 1448698595 889749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" && chmod +x "$key" < 1448698598 660506 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1448698599 272703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1448698604 885939 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right, slashes < 1448698639 180956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx 'bin/dollarzero//echo "$0"'; dollarzero; rm bin/dollarzero < 1448698639 853244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dollarzero \ /hackenv/bin/dollarzero < 1448698647 494667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1448698653 480471 :teo_anarcho!~georg_ana@193.96.224.4 PART :#esoteric < 1448698685 135355 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448698685 796312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes strength to admit your own weaknesses. < 1448698689 298122 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448698689 460024 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf for not remembering how his own command works -----### < 1448698689 994050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a way out. Finding it will be difficult. It may be the hardest thing you've ever done. Find it anyway. < 1448698729 394291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls good < 1448698730 167003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :295 \ 503 \ 544 \ 755 \ 786 < 1448698742 432850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`neutral < 1448698743 89110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: neutral: not found < 1448698756 424402 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well clearly we need a `neutral < 1448698768 849536 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1448698778 567122 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEEES < 1448698779 131519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits good < 1448698780 787492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett < 1448698781 659683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits evil < 1448698783 523991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett tswett < 1448698790 55679 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see the balance htere < 1448698797 403196 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was already sick of both `evil and `good, just from reading the logs when tswett added them :( < 1448698803 602080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not collaborative enough hth < 1448698824 345396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo decisions shouldn't be made by fiat < 1448698828 128415 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett Where's "`neutral"? < 1448698828 290548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448698828 565470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it's oerjan < 1448698838 121627 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN RIGHT < 1448699452 826686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think Fiat's in the HackEgo business < 1448699758 807563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should work on my I Ching language < 1448700145 449939 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, 1-valued logic < 1448700146 463316 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1448700152 269495 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or sqrt(2) valued logic < 1448700959 691775 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448701003 549118 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448701151 561308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQRT(2) VALUED LOGIC < 1448701200 849153 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're drunk, go home < 1448701331 722954 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some mathematicians have been drunk before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_with_one_element < 1448701386 508275 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha Fun < 1448701893 418269 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22one-valued+logic%22 < 1448702021 171546 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqrt(2) valued logic, on the other hand... < 1448702095 19778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :F_{un}, eh < 1448702101 981135 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a fun field < 1448702110 493219 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: written in word < 1448702129 609086 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ? < 1448702149 898954 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you refering to one of the results? < 1448702154 498312 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one < 1448702200 218374 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do agree that any mathematician who can't use LaTeX or TeX or ConTeXt or anything like that isn't a real mathematician < 1448702229 67062 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I was reading this one though: http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/2218364.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents < 1448702299 192440 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't read more than the the first page < 1448702326 861144 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Oh. Didn't notice that < 1448702327 790116 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1448702331 7476 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1448702339 677067 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if you produce a PDF that doesn't have grainy text then you aren't a real mathematician. I'm completely serious. Not kidding. At all. < 1448702413 996504 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Though, it appears it was published in a philosophy paper, so maybe I am drunk < 1448702429 284514 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the "logic of ejaculations" is and i'm not even sure i want to know it < 1448702505 986718 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: How aobut 2+2i valued logic? < 1448702509 220793 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I went there. < 1448702536 928618 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense is not really interesting < 1448702537 896818 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho < 1448702567 710977 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1448702578 279068 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's interesting to try to come up with bullshit. < 1448702597 957383 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange-valued logics are the domain of toposes, i think, but i've never made the effort to actually learn those. < 1448702601 576839 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and assign meaning to it) < 1448702607 167109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1448702608 593442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :toposes? < 1448702620 423899 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or topoi, if you prefer < 1448702623 59825 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What I think I mean is complex boolean logic < 1448702667 384693 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A four-valued logic where everything is either FG, FU, GG, or GU. < 1448702689 568554 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall that each topos has an object that corresponds to its "booleans" (was it discriminator?) < 1448702705 900475 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, 0+0i, 0+1i, 1+0i, or 1+1i < 1448702713 995590 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I screwed up on the last two < 1448702720 222530 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definitely screwed up < 1448702772 959269 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it'd be easier to represent them as FF, FT, TF, and TT < 1448702809 582942 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should sleep now. It's 00:30 here. < 1448702822 212306 :impomatic_!~digital_w@122.189.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448702823 630294 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guhni. < 1448703070 575703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448703490 524451 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1182 characters so far. < 1448703528 586142 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously considering to add a triangular/pentagonal pixel with 1:2 or 2:1 slope < 1448703875 637707 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: what are you working on? < 1448703894 108431 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: a scalable pan-Unicode bitmap font (just like /oren/'s, but also scalable). < 1448703900 675551 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/sample < 1448703929 577326 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice! < 1448703933 764299 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your lambda is a bit weird < 1448703946 602399 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, trying to fix that :( < 1448703969 670264 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current scheme has a fundamental restriction on the triangle slope (1:1 only) < 1448704106 293997 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: the lower-case lambda should be a bit better. for the upper-case lambda, uh, no idea. < 1448704131 360035 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the current shape is essentially an A without a horiz. line) < 1448704411 214773 :andrew!~andrew@116.30.106.96 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448706022 117729 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448707114 970436 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448708965 310718 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1448710610 26265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448710752 964691 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448711599 584816 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448711611 811423 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fERz9RtEnkvf7JYmk < 1448711619 763663 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can it be? < 1448711631 110324 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type of esolang? Thanks! < 1448711660 172795 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit too short for a bitcoin address ;) < 1448711676 860240 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1448711688 27134 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0Hdd6lTePiSGz2j4E1Px < 1448711695 4555 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyQq55KwpLnj8Ts5vJxzW0I < 1448711709 971878 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody can help < 1448711711 725352 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :T.T < 1448711717 581209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not without context < 1448711759 355936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo no | shachaf1sum < 1448711760 95268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :49qqqo3o048p671676o4519855q137r37ps71sqp - < 1448711765 209143 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name of the proble: Go fishing! < 1448711772 653218 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: 1. Esolang < 1448711865 791027 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :base64 the esolang < 1448711933 913370 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any link < 1448711944 827088 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's look like base64 but I cant decode < 1448711985 232763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45687&oldid=45568 5* 03213.162.68.131 5* (+15) 10/* D */ add Deadfish < 1448712044 933937 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see this list but I cant find the type of esolang of this problem < 1448712720 946495 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448712722 782371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was looking for esolangs with "fish" in their name... but none of them look right. Malbolge would be another guess, but it tends to use non-alphanumeric characters. So I don't know what that is. < 1448712993 357681 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1448713215 386626 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgcxyptcwxfgppmv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1448713575 86526 :adsd!abe9cc6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.171.233.204.110 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1448714466 309222 :kline_!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :kline < 1448714801 13890 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448714941 642273 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1448714941 804339 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Pong alone cannot stop! < 1448714952 777035 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1448714952 978277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1448714982 497 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1448714984 183411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐/🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1448715008 544842 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448715036 879399 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1448715127 391090 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1448715145 629512 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1448715147 357759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird/bird bird bird bird < 1448715190 536263 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1448716777 518534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bird? < 1448716777 680844 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there is no store. crappy does not fnord. he fnord the development just fnord. < 1448716790 846855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1448716791 8717 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1448717203 565502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1448717204 619532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1448718777 626325 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bird is the word < 1448718836 689161 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? worm < 1448718837 488160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1448718853 429472 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poor birds will starve < 1448718933 536116 :MDeam!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1448719336 557807 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448720520 722353 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448720657 903504 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what characters should I add today < 1448720712 408507 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I promised someone I'd add Thai, maybe i'll do that < 1448721121 625163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. do you have 泰? < 1448721164 178989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1448721196 479805 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 泰 < 1448721197 398021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+6CF0 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6CF0] < 1448722178 985106 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit hahahahahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YZ1lceoxk < 1448722300 385338 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love russian mad scientists < 1448722425 510244 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical, got stuck on the brand name... < 1448722564 980332 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yotube sucks tese days < 1448722633 265306 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually download the video and themn play it < 1448722710 731177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not youtube's fault < 1448722746 194864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you think of not paying extortion money as a fault) < 1448722766 219651 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is their fault. varius other streaming sites (nsfw ones) seems to stream a lot faster. < 1448722815 274912 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that youtube keeps switching its quality and re-downloading the same part over and over < 1448722888 864327 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem started happening when they stopped using flash < 1448722993 109668 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it downloads 0:00-0:40 at 480p, then stops, downloads 0:30-0:60 at 360p, then stops, upgrades to 720 and redownloads < 1448723049 280398 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes it completely freezes until I refresh the page < 1448723087 193890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, great fun < 1448723097 743366 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only solution I've found is to use vlc or another program to download and play the whole thing at one quality < 1448723200 511213 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which chooses the highest quality, and streams fast ANYWAY, so it is obviously their clint software throttling it and fucking it up < 1448723290 922702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, but nothing is ever obvious. < 1448723328 767244 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well tbf it could also be firefox's terrible JS interpreter < 1448723361 738126 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but regardless the prblem is happening at my end, not the server < 1448723369 30236 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or my net connection < 1448723735 367569 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1448723771 525735 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there voodoo dolls for programs? can you tickle a fungot figurine? < 1448723771 755782 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know of, but i heard a discussion on commenting source code. < 1448723790 546835 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448723897 401703 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1448723911 603178 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448724094 510907 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1222 characters so far, lots of currency characters. < 1448724121 479729 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frankly speaking they are really hard to fit in 8x16 box < 1448724157 197270 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you have to wdge < 1448724179 191732 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm quite proud that I've managed to make U+20B7 good < 1448724215 3807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+20B7 < 1448724215 686972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​₷ < 1448724223 436111 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode U+20B7 < 1448724224 193720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] [U+0037 DIGIT SEVEN] < 1448724229 428660 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wdge < 1448724230 349755 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wdge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1448724246 202312 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I've finally implemented 2:1 and 1:2 slopes, they are so useful for complex characters < 1448724251 229164 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode U+20B7) < 1448724252 124176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+20B7 SPESMILO SIGN] < 1448724260 367328 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. /d or b\ < 1448724339 886199 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1448724395 787091 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets a pin and stabs a figurine marked "the magical force that allows LLVM to change their IR for seemingly random reasons, in particular adding redundant type annotations" < 1448724465 70806 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example: getelementptr inbounds %struct.room, %struct.room* %this, i32 0, i32 0) < 1448724478 336832 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically the first %struct.room) < 1448724597 194219 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448724678 283581 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget 'http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c' < 1448724694 22117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2015-11-28 15:30:45-- http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received. \ Retrying. \ \ --2015-11-28 15:30:46-- (try: 2) http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. < 1448724695 444645 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirurgical voodoo dolling, with titanium plated precision tools. < 1448724725 910202 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget 'http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c' < 1448724729 707938 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh, yay, UTF-8! < 1448724741 595610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2015-11-28 15:31:32-- http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received. \ Retrying. \ \ --2015-11-28 15:31:34-- (try: 2) http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. < 1448724744 636401 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.htm < 1448724800 111812 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1448724800 273870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1448724820 198511 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c < 1448724821 695116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-11-28 15:33:07 URL:http://www.orenwatson.be/u8tbl.c [987/987] -> "u8tbl.c" [1] < 1448724829 918016 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, why on earth did HackEgo go through a proxy... < 1448724841 211666 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc u8tbl.c -o u8tbl < 1448724844 629421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:6: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘.’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1448724917 241649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cc u8tbl.c -o u8tbl < 1448724918 127334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:6: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘.’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1448724955 292287 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` head -n 2 u8tbl.c < 1448724956 249896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include "stdio.h" \ #include "stdlib.h" < 1448725018 720749 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :いったい何だ悪い?!? < 1448725054 902579 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc u8tbl.c -o u8tbl < 1448725055 738588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:6: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘.’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1448725095 476796 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc -Wall u8tbl.c -o u8tbl < 1448725096 383117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘-’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1448725117 840711 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1448725120 835790 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc u8tbl.c -o u8tbl < 1448725125 294552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448725133 200233 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's just weird < 1448725140 971657 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would gcc make any difference < 1448725142 799730 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cc isn't a C compiler? WTFFFFFFF < 1448725155 323513 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, cc looks like a c compiler < 1448725155 522163 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls cc < 1448725156 336737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access cc: No such file or directory < 1448725159 624597 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not a sane c compiler < 1448725164 398740 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc --help < 1448725165 348525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘--’ token \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1448725167 650828 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1448725193 395936 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc 'int main(){printf("hello world");}' < 1448725194 590026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1448725195 317804 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc void main() {puts("What the fuck");} < 1448725195 943084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `cc void main() {puts("What the fuck");}' < 1448725201 776549 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1448725210 243142 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc 'void main() {puts("What the fuck");}' < 1448725211 400974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck < 1448725246 158343 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` u8tbl 0x20b7 0x20b7 < 1448725246 954021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: u8tbl: command not found < 1448725248 622745 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc 'void main() {puts("Hey, my name`s HackEgo, and you`re listening to `What the Fuck`.");usleep(100000);puts("Our contestants today...");}' < 1448725249 818651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, my name`s HackEgo, and you`re listening to `What the Fuck`. \ Our contestants today... < 1448725257 30178 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x20b7 0x20b7 < 1448725257 722413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​₷ < 1448725264 694922 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x2000 0x20b7 < 1448725265 294376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​           ​‌‍‎‏ \ ‐‑‒–—―‖‗‘’‚‛“”„‟ \ †‡•‣․‥…‧

‪‫‬‭‮  \ ‰‱′″‴‵‶‷‸‹›※‼‽‾‿ \ ⁀⁁⁂⁃⁄⁅⁆⁇⁈⁉⁊⁋⁌⁍⁎⁏ \ ⁐⁑⁒⁓⁔⁕⁖⁗⁘⁙⁚⁛⁜⁝⁞  \ ⁠⁡⁢⁣⁤⁥⁦⁧⁨⁩ < 1448725288 559830 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x20 0x50 < 1448725289 229168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./ \ 0123456789:;<=>? \ @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO \ P < 1448725294 29789 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now we know that works < 1448725306 713750 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x20 0x30 < 1448725307 487666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./ \ 0 < 1448725310 699952 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x30 0x40 < 1448725311 327461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0123456789:;<=>? \ @ < 1448725312 40309 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, it's part of my toolsuite for making my font < 1448725318 186793 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x30 0x38 < 1448725319 3934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :012345678 < 1448725339 128094 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x34 0x34 0x32 0x32 < 1448725339 819934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1448725340 848952 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1448725345 541645 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 32 48 < 1448725346 138864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./ \ 0 < 1448725375 435989 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time there was a bot which might understand 42 < 1448725381 301634 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0100 0107 < 1448725381 929159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ABCDEFG < 1448725429 993822 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :strtol with 0,0 has useful beehiveior < 1448725469 158618 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses prefix 0x for hex and 0 for octal < 1448725519 709603 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like strtol is great for converting strings to numbers and back. < 1448725551 716620 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0100 0127 < 1448725552 442853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO \ PQRSTUVW < 1448725563 900806 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0200 0227 < 1448725564 637334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ \ ‘’“”•–— < 1448725581 139920 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo < 1448725613 743584 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0xFF00 0xFF37 < 1448725614 418765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​＀!"#$%&'()*+,-./ \ 0123456789:;<=>? \ @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO \ PQRSTUVW < 1448725656 581701 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how wide ascii is at ascii +_ 0xff00 < 1448725784 558713 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably intentional... < 1448725797 692179 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's all sorts of "coincidences" like that in charsets < 1448725810 471581 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x30 0x3A < 1448725811 125928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0123456789: < 1448725825 956510 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1448725836 17807 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:f5b6:f2b6:5136:5a87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448725876 366395 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: space is at 0x20, the capital letters start at 0x41 or something... < 1448725911 808127 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just ASCII. < 1448726082 519206 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:f5b6:f2b6:5136:5a87 PART :#esoteric < 1448726185 855807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurray for technology? "Continuous and lengthy discussions, technical meetings and negotiations eventually led us to the point where we were allowed to run our own node.js-server on the inflight servers of the aircraft." < 1448726198 708934 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is this? < 1448726204 31907 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUCKCKCCKCKCKCKCKC < 1448726228 784460 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why the fuck did it require "Continuous and length discussions, technical meetings and negotiations"? < 1448726235 177313 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna be in a fiery crash because some asshole wanted to write things in JS?!!? < 1448726238 983116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reaktor.com/blog/aircraft-customer-experience-on-a-new-level/ < 1448726245 93079 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds as if an aircraft is a war zone or something < 1448726265 251323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They want us to think that it's just the entertainment system... < 1448726334 358263 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Separation of concerns on something like this would dictate they would be separate systems. < 1448726363 42711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think so < 1448726381 793306 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you say that... < 1448726389 288767 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you saying they aren't? < 1448726403 183383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what to make of this story http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-commandeered-plane/ < 1448726415 337835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were really separate networks then that shouldn't be possible. < 1448726423 256833 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well remem ber that truck that got hacked thru the entertainment system? < 1448726561 221473 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, even if they're on the same network, it doesn't matter as long as the actual flight control systems are still locked up normally. < 1448726586 238923 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as flight control hasn't been taken over by Node.JS, everything's relatively fine. < 1448726599 978537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true, once you can flood the network with meaningless packets < 1448726603 908777 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They shouldn't be on the same network, but if they are, that's a separate (but still bad) issue < 1448726627 973919 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448726638 115387 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides last time I checked JS didn't have an error handling system capable of handling OOM gracefully < 1448726660 898111 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that Node.JS would get put into the flight control systems. < 1448726749 147118 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it doesn't, it could bring the sytem to a crawl by taking up all memory < 1448726791 606721 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not on the same machine, that doesn't matter. < 1448726827 1095 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448726970 666051 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we'd better hope for sane engineers who don't let some JS jockeys onto the main flight computers < 1448727043 974095 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well, to be fair, many dynamic allocation schemes cannot easily deal with OOM. < 1448727144 903694 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but JS is particularly prone to filling all memory with "reachable" variables < 1448727164 493846 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in my experience < 1448727198 257021 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably every dynamic language has the same characteristic < 1448727349 643198 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe any dynamic language with global-by-default variables, lambdas that carry the context in which they were defined, and a library using large trees of objects as its main principle < 1448727496 370588 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it becomes very easy to silently leak megabytes < 1448728058 534658 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the lambdas carry all the context in which they were defined, or just the variables they use? < 1448728095 980525 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if they carry all the context in which they were defined, there is something seriously wrong with whoever had that idea. < 1448728166 376038 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, technically without finalizers there's no way to verify if it carries it or not... so if it's supposed to keep all the context, you can ignore that and only keep the things with finalizers and what the lambda uses. < 1448728194 308181 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still sounds like a mess though. < 1448728492 337978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript has an eval function... < 1448728605 615067 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION moves far enough away from the screen that they can't tell the difference between some letters < 1448728621 453972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil function? < 1448728652 168989 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448728661 406070 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1448729122 338022 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohi < 1448729128 368739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hello, < 1448729239 639056 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in your font, the cyrillic capital letters "ЅІЈ" look too much like the latin letters. I think you should fix that. < 1448729266 147516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj closures in javascript carry all their context < 1448729311 206808 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: not all of them are exactly the same, but they're quite confusing < 1448729388 2173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see you're using tricky different letter forms to distinguish the cyrillic letters from the latin, and lower height to distinguish the greek capitals from the latin < 1448729413 822144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only implemented the basic greek letters without accents, but I use small dots in the confusable ones. < 1448729434 198166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like how I use dots in some accented letters that would otherwise be too similar to each other < 1448729499 112768 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is there any general solution? for that matters, I have three copies of latin A -- greek Alpha -- cyrillic A which are identical right now. < 1448729500 119584 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: All? Including what isn't used...? *notes down "Javascript is nuts"* < 1448729514 889183 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very hard to make alternative glyphs for me < 1448729589 69541 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448729636 106321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: "A" isn't really the worst because it's easy to make very different versions of it: different shaped tops or different height for the bar < 1448729655 538021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: but try to make lots of different "T" or "O" that look nice < 1448729672 859181 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that is painful. < 1448729692 179147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: anyway, I think it's less of a problem if I confuse the greek with the cyrillic, because I rarely read text in those, the main point is to notice accidental non-latin characters among latin text < 1448729737 183725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: but cyrillic is different because there are way more similar letters to latin in first place, even in lower case < 1448729743 729014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hard to do anything with the lower case letters < 1448729755 956205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, sort of. rather, they are considered to maintain exactly what scope they are declared in. which means at least any reference uses must be maintained as reachable < 1448729781 813915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: one thing you could try to do is to make the cyrillic have thin lines, but that could look ugly < 1448729792 177983 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like to do so. < 1448729792 820384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe thick horizontal lines, I dunno < 1448729816 594062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really tried to implement them yet < 1448729841 92388 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a very few latin and punctuation characters on my near term todo, but not cyrillic < 1448729894 948206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: where's your font these days? I think you saw some page that didn't work for me < 1448729904 338151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/saw/showed/ < 1448729955 879465 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/sample should be stable for now. < 1448730002 311700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I don't see anything. is that trying to use some fancy modern javascript thingy? < 1448730016 979391 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see "1237 characters, 578 intermediate glyphs so far"? < 1448730021 396961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I see that < 1448730026 49726 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the glyphs are rendered via SVG < 1448730031 166626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an input box for "sample text" < 1448730033 733359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, SVG < 1448730058 432348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see, is it a static SVG? if so, I could render that separately < 1448730059 419209 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Describing what it is time!: "Techno-style looking glyphs, not out-of-place in a cyberpunk movie." < 1448730070 350773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there a PDF or postscript version of the page? < 1448730078 234861 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it lacks xmlns but it is not hard to add them. < 1448730094 10994 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Including braille glyphs in case you want to add useless dot patterns." < 1448730097 866661 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, not yet. probably I need to make an image out of them later. < 1448730113 126781 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: good way to boost the number of supported glyphs < 1448730113 736469 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: pdf would be the most convenient I think < 1448730124 9903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, static images can't hurt too as a quick preview < 1448730136 33355 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't complain, I still haven't made a good page demonstrating my font either < 1448730148 967655 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to make an OTF file out of that. < 1448730166 87174 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I'm pretty sure the braille glyphs have a grand total of two uses, ever: < 1448730169 654413 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Looking cool < 1448730173 806227 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. Braille < 1448730178 88985 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. bitmap < 1448730188 466433 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: 1 < 1448730192 419816 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1448730213 598738 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a system to render bitmaps into UTF-8 text < 1448730224 721655 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for use in forum signatures < 1448730237 895056 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have they gotten the reverse eight point braille (with two dots above the grid of six) into unicode yet? < 1448731009 72579 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I fixed ЅІЈ SIJ < 1448731102 990296 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ok < 1448731244 636438 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm adding Thai < 1448731350 561348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1448731402 93834 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: will you do APL symbols? I can get you a list if you need. there's a hundred or two (though you already have a few that aren't only APL symbols) and they're generally easy to draw. < 1448731426 705056 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(few hundred total, not used all together in any one APL dialect) < 1448731458 966152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, although I see you already have some of them < 1448731517 676655 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you seem to have a lot of them, < 1448731541 360317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a few I can't find by eye. let me check how they're supposed to be encoded < 1448731575 923963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there they are < 1448731584 438015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might actually have all < 1448731624 756333 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: could you please add U+1F414? < 1448731651 334456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pine, upside down pine, tee with small circle, bottom with small circle were the ones I didn't see < 1448731665 177805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where's the quad with prime < 1448731671 141243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it is next to the lightbulb < 1448731692 978581 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x1f414 0x1f414 < 1448731693 704317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐔 < 1448731709 865205 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x1f414 0x1f420 < 1448731710 528217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐔🐕🐖🐗🐘🐙🐚🐛🐜🐝🐞🐟 \ 🐠 < 1448731949 152989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do the emoji eventually, but only as wide characters < 1448732057 552312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: meh, you already have the basic cp437 smiling face, you don't need more than that < 1448732257 780375 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done Thai, is that enought for this batch or should I add more < 1448732296 635520 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll add more kyoiku kanji < 1448732398 423737 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for UTF-8! Sadly, not in an esoteric language: http://pastebin.com/jjkR9ErN < 1448733033 335619 :MC8_!~zuzak@wikimedia/microchip08 NICK :MC8 < 1448733546 950081 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448733803 829165 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: to which extent do you plan supporting indic scripts? < 1448733879 242677 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cknirsclmszjsaaz JOIN :#esoteric < 1448733944 151457 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to whatever extent is possible in 9x16 pixels? < 1448733947 161643 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? < 1448734132 168866 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I reach 6000 characters I'll update the version number < 1448734166 128333 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now it's 8 as you can see in ΍ < 1448734168 901600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant specifically consonant conjuncts. they are many and irregular. < 1448734213 629854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there's the physical limit of 2 ** (9 * 16) pixel combinations. < 1448734226 106494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ^ (9 * 16) < 1448734227 855502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 22300745198530623141535718272648361505980416 < 1448734333 537262 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, whatever, I draw each code point separately < 1448734339 844409 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ^ (4 * 4) < 1448734341 347200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 65536 < 1448734383 284791 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's small enough that it might be feasible to send random combinations to people and ask them what letter it looks like or "indeterminate" < 1448734422 820161 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only trouble is that 4x4 is an awfully small font < 1448734432 287280 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need one pixel more for space between letters < 1448734447 438889 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :4x4 is effectively 3x3 < 1448734450 23140 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :space is blank < 1448734499 134901 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ^ (8 * 15) < 1448734500 823293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1329227995784915872903807060280344576 < 1448734536 755459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe instead of adding characters, you should try to make different fonts? < 1448734553 883733 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4x4 would be the size of the glyphs, 5x5 would be "including spacing" < 1448734563 468072 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: one day, I'll add the math letters < 1448734583 275997 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1448734665 777443 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally the bitmap size is specified "without spacing"... < 1448734667 823441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I should add the 8+12+1+4 characters I have in my short-term todo < 1448734693 87776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8 line drawing or similar, 12 latin letters, 1 misc, 4 arrows with base) < 1448734858 615737 :AvinashSnl!~^^@unaffiliated/avinashsnl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448734868 877627 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I should make a demonstration page where I show sample texts and also a table of all characters as bitmap images < 1448734869 616408 :AvinashSnl!~^^@unaffiliated/avinashsnl QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1448734908 569668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well supported are elements in HTML these days? Are there still browsers that don't know them? < 1448734955 715033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean among browsers that can render images. < 1448734974 64440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :From tags < 1448735043 885444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: by the way, are you planning to add cirth? < 1448735058 965112 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448735081 548417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how easy it is to fit them in this grid < 1448735103 312140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably not harder than what you've already managed with some scripts. < 1448735244 816794 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, *googling cirth* < 1448735284 861207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: cirth is one of the two constructed scripts by Tolkien himself < 1448735295 301292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :used in the LotR universe < 1448735324 518711 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's considered to be merges with the Runic block. < 1448735330 409816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cirth are runes, used for carving into stone, whereas the other script, tengwa, is for writing with a pen or similar. < 1448735354 260408 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448735371 173368 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x16f1 0x16f43 < 1448735371 837510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛱᛲᛳᛴ < 1448735375 921906 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get these blocks with a dynamic ip http://i.imgur.com/7wDIbPo.png < 1448735387 831742 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x16f1 0x163 < 1448735388 479806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448735391 672777 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x16f1 0x16f3 < 1448735392 338137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛱᛲᛳ < 1448735407 397070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be merged? Futhark runes (which have tons of variants), cirth, and old Hungarian runes are three totally non-overlapping set of runes. < 1448735462 298868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although cirth does look similar to futhark, in the way that Lat-Cyr-Greek looks similar to Georgian and Armenian scripts in its features and typography, but they are three non-overlapping sets. < 1448735498 235978 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lat-Cyr-Greek is at least three related scripts which have letters related in origin, even if they are distinct scripts now < 1448735517 948969 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those three runes I'm missign were added baecause they are in cirth but not futhark < 1448735529 941440 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in unicode 7.0 < 1448735583 236267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It consists of old Phoenician, Greek, Latin, the two Cyrillics, Coptic, and more, in a way that it's not entirely clear how to count the number of scripts, and the number changes by which decade you ask. < 1448735591 297799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's definitely at least three scripts. < 1448735661 813505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, they also share some of the origins with futhark, braille, hebrew, and arabic, because phoenician and greek and latin are so popular that it influenced everyone. < 1448735692 177783 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew is a direct descendant of phonician < 1448735693 439618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hebrew and arabic and braille have typography very different from them. < 1448735704 280858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, that is very likelyi < 1448735722 466101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the alphabetic order and the names of letters are certainly related, and probably the letter shapes too. < 1448735764 720137 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well anyway they already rejected klingon so... < 1448735791 617108 :meme1!~lil@106.216.172.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448735798 673071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: they rejected tengwa once too. they did add it later < 1448735826 331250 :nortti!~juhani@5.9.253.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they've added tengwar in unicode? < 1448735832 858261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: although I for one think that adding reverse eight point braille would be more useful, and it's EASY because there's a definite and closed list of characters, unlike in many scripts. < 1448735837 344649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: iirc they have < 1448735878 936966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I remember wrong < 1448735887 722075 :nortti!~juhani@5.9.253.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only aware of the PUA one < 1448735895 510077 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look this up < 1448735899 809593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have misremembered < 1448735915 936657 :nortti!~juhani@5.9.253.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems there is a range reserved for them in unicode, but no encoding yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar#Unicode < 1448735930 834002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the Klingon script being rejected is I think a good decision. < 1448735956 679515 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very few people use the Klingon script, and most of the people who speak klingon use the latin script encoding instead, so it's basically reserved for ceremonial use. < 1448735979 178284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you guys are right, it seems tengwa and cirth aren't in unicode yet. < 1448736049 370754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, for some strange reason they've added the Phaistos Disc symbols, which is totally idiotic, given that they're used on that one disk and nowhere else, and we don't even know which pairs are supposed to be the same symbol or different ones. < 1448736070 285948 :meme1!~lil@106.216.172.121 PART :#esoteric < 1448736078 915775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those kinds of scripts (if it is even a script) like the Voynich manuscript script shouldn't be added until we find out more about how it's used. < 1448736119 369057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does unicode even have a circular text flow marker... < 1448736147 949863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does it even have a boustrophedon text flow marker? < 1448736199 869479 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at the GNU unifont right now, and I see a problem with their crowd-sourced approach in that characters which are related are in inconsistent styles < 1448736275 947898 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I've put an image render, http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/sample.png < 1448736292 110636 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope it helps < 1448736314 922197 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm you i and j have no tittles < 1448736328 721569 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1448736333 695974 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still has a problem with subglyphs < 1448736335 845075 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a min... < 1448736407 932528 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why have you drawn ▂▃▄▅▆▇█▉▊▋▌▍▎▏▐░▒▓ as wide < 1448736410 934471 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1448736459 960549 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be consistent with other block drawings < 1448736500 18508 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, subglyphs should render fine < 1448736513 202082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need to use those scripts in a text that is otherwise Unicode, you could use CSUR encoding < 1448736529 678297 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1448736623 463947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know of any extension to Unicode that has boustrophedon marker and so on < 1448736637 936979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may make up your own encoding if needed, whether or not it is an extension of Unicode < 1448736712 166317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't like that б. < 1448736795 468493 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1448737005 338236 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode б < 1448737006 202645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0431 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER BE] < 1448737059 730536 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough Cyrillic to determine which glyph is better looking < 1448737059 942271 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that one's tall, when it's not supposed to be. fixing < 1448737075 652650 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: he meant in my font I think < 1448737086 723571 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestion would be appreciated (of course, not every suggestion is accepted) < 1448737089 697916 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1448737131 396770 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wit, maybe it is supposed to be tall < 1448737198 373469 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what did you mean? < 1448737227 742306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you are trying to include Klingon and Tengwar and Cirth scripts in a otherwise Unicode font, you could use CSUR extensions to encode them < 1448737231 672629 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: well your б isn't tall < 1448737366 47471 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448737374 776233 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I added thai and 必念急息悲想意愛感 < 1448737415 4804 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scripts should be in unicode only if we know enough about it to write new texts with it. < 1448737429 160762 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can now fall in 愛 with my font < 1448737465 117821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps exceptions could be made if it's used enough in a well-studied corpus, like the Bible. < 1448737474 966216 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bird < 1448737476 41479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird bird bird bird < 1448737483 511362 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bird < 1448737485 529069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull Phantom_Hoover nortti Phantom_Hoover < 1448737488 737608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: thanks < 1448737491 235298 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1448737511 592968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: wait, that'sa bitmap font. why would you need SVG for it? < 1448737518 184878 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/bird | grep ummary < 1448737519 287002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: learn bird bird bird bird \ summary: learn bird is a dinosaur \ summary: learn bird bird bird bird < 1448737540 337146 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/bird | grep ummary | tac < 1448737541 452919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn bird bird bird bird \ summary: learn bird is a dinosaur \ summary: learn bird bird bird bird \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: revert < 1448737543 722700 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's hybrid bitmap-vector font, the font consists of pixels that have vector counterparts < 1448737563 138855 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if Phantom_Hoover thinks so it must be correct. < 1448737574 489376 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe running that command back then was a mistake < 1448737621 250500 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont make mistakes < 1448737621 450194 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the sample.html looks like this: http://cosmic.mearie.org/img/20151129-unison-sample.png < 1448737669 944163 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: do you have a pcf version of this? or perhaps an opentype font version? < 1448737675 867955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I meant my command < 1448737680 556766 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :planned but haven't tried. < 1448737688 303190 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTF is my primary goal < 1448737693 213892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, so there's a big vector version < 1448737707 553856 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: pcf is easy to create. I can help in that. OTF is difficult. < 1448737737 407649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to have a nice clean look, I like it < 1448737781 516161 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: in http://cosmic.mearie.org/2015/11/font/sample.png, what does it mean when a hex number heading on the left is gray? < 1448737798 335872 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is certainly a better 8x16 font than GNU unifont < 1448737815 650246 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's a dual-width font (or triple- or quadruple- for some glyphs, haven't seriously decided on that though) < 1448737824 335986 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some rows have less than 32 characters there < 1448737844 336280 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grayed U+xxxx are continuations for prior rows < 1448737872 759414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. So it's not strictly usable as a terminal font. This is an interesting concept. < 1448737932 747508 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the dual-width font problematic for terminals? I thought it is necessary for CJK fonts anyway. < 1448737970 969069 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminals usually only allow CJK characters to be wide < 1448737971 185202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yes, but terminals assume that the character width are the usual, which is 1 cell for most of the latin letters and arrows < 1448738005 821689 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: there's a sort of informal "standard" width for each character, 0 or 1 or 2, which is not really regulated by unicode, < 1448738028 905941 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: and this is important because the programs that use the terminal have to know how many cells the text they print takes up < 1448738033 2353 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they are technically Ambiguous in the East Asian Width standard (a part of Unicode) < 1448738058 145292 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if some terminal doesn't like them I may try to adjust that < 1448738059 609963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a libc call to tell the width of a character, and some support in curses-like libraries for it. < 1448738088 787255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: also, if your left arrow and right arrow characters are double width, then suddenly supposedly monospaced APL or smalltalk code will look very strange indeed < 1448738101 122948 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcwidth, right? probably I should look at that. < 1448738127 333986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some variant of) smalltalk uses the left arrow as the assingment operator, this comes from back when ascii was more flexible and _ was a left arrow and ^ an up arrow < 1448738203 433942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my terminal has a switch for ambiguous as wide vs narror < 1448738216 924078 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience was that there are some applications expecting narrow arrows and some other applications expecting wide arrows < 1448738240 711378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yes, wcwidth. it gives -1 for some non-printable characters (control characters like line feed), 0 for combining accents and similar zero width stuff, 1 for western characters and lots of others, and 2 for kanji and stuff like that. < 1448738244 414077 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. typically japanese made prgrams want wide < 1448738265 524457 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like w3m < 1448738279 57337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1448738295 814574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aren't there at least separate code points representing wide left arrow, up arrow, and right arrow? < 1448738309 1761 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narrow arrows plus custom kerning with other wide characters may work... < 1448738311 871724 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not < 1448738321 668922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno then < 1448738339 62164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use kanjis, and my font only has characters that are 1 cell wide < 1448738342 903701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, almst < 1448738359 275974 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it has glyphs for control characters, unused in terminals. < 1448738389 702562 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.dequis.org/notes/emoji/ heh, Linux's wcwidth is not up-to-date til very recent so you cannot use (wide) Emoji correctly < 1448738389 864630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, unused in most terminals. < 1448738415 533370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: well sure, that's because these days it's VERY difficult to upgrade libc, because it's hard to build. < 1448738431 869739 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcwidth is a kind of mistake I claim :p < 1448738473 922809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I don't think so. NOT having the widths specified by unicode is a mistake. If it was specified, then unicode support libraries like ICU would give the width, and there was a clear standard made up sanely. < 1448738476 488513 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When making a terminal program usually just check for specific ranges and everything else is narrow < 1448738485 482204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know, mostly sanely. Because unicode and committees and stuff. < 1448738502 290300 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: as I've said, there *is* a standard (UAX #11). < 1448738514 201716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: is there? what's this UAX #11 ? < 1448738515 884811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be better to make it the bit of the character code to specify the width for use with fixpitch display < 1448738520 849643 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr11/ < 1448738532 512551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode doesn't do that, so you have to not use Unicode in the terminal. < 1448738547 466545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: does that give a width of each unicode character? < 1448738556 317547 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some specifications updates more quickly than the core Unicode standard (the Book, til it went digital only) so they are provided as a TR < 1448738561 533173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is there an interface in ICU to access this? < 1448738609 414267 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there are seven classes and I think there is. < 1448738659 270966 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most problematic class is A (Ambiguous) which is used in both EA context and non-EA context and its width may depend on the usage < 1448738669 486325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: that sounds good. < 1448738672 802756 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrows are, for example, Ambiguous < 1448738676 933734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1448738744 87458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's one of several ambiguities that have to be resolved with font variants and formatting to access them, I presume. Like the two different cyrillic script styles (which IMO should have been two different non-overlapping scripts in first place, but got messed up for political reasons, and too late to change now), or the capital I stuff, or some ligatures in some scripts. < 1448738760 469423 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ and too late to change now), or the capital I stuff, or some ligatures in some scripts. < 1448738802 527808 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah: the ranges I used were 0x2e80,0xA63f, 0xac00,0xd7ff, 0xf900,0xfaff, 0xff00,0xff60, 0xffe0,0xffe7 < 1448738816 141060 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else narrow < 1448738827 679666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hehe, "0xA63f" with mixed case < 1448738828 889749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1448738844 591929 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ligatures my preference is to make it a concatenation of individual glyphs, but that was a bit ugly in Roman numerals < 1448738856 336022 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wcwidth(0x2190) is (as I've expected) -1 (ambiguous) :) < 1448738868 300181 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's really up to the terminal softwares < 1448738871 196999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: the roman numerals are compatibility characters anyway, like the angstrom signs, and shouldn't be used in new texts. < 1448738877 970784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't care about them. < 1448738920 712808 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it messes up with terminals (e.g. failed to detect mostly-dual-width fonts) it is a problem < 1448738944 662440 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned widthranges[] = {0x2e80,0xA63f, 0xac00,0xd7ff, 0xf900,0xfaff, 0xff00,0xff60, 0xffe0,0xffe7}; < 1448738951 349971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yes, and with the latin letters, I do care about them < 1448738955 213417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/them/that/ < 1448738974 746438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you have support for some cyrillic and greek letters < 1448739016 610195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fewer latin letters so far than what I have in my font < 1448739040 773631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no őŐűŰ in particular < 1448739059 893945 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've worked on cyrillic and greek letters first to check problems from multiple different (but similar) scripts < 1448739069 694273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: sure, makes sense < 1448739092 466736 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't thoroughly drawn all characters :) < 1448739096 911105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like the font is final anyway. I haven't started with all characters ready either, I've added them in many passes, and occasionally corrected some existing characters < 1448739138 329099 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did so, combining characters are so painful to get it right < 1448739164 863028 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the extra-cute o and u are from ungarian, I see < 1448739173 123176 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I and T are common offenders < 1448739186 571871 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to their even widths) < 1448739192 819401 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ungar/hungar/ < 1448739204 173640 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel hungar < 1448739230 127141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one seems already quite usable to render text in some languages, and looks nice and clean. < 1448739293 905695 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what timeframe do we have to a bdf or ttf version? < 1448739324 828892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: are you planning to eventually add more latin letters, and the lowercase serbian letters? < 1448739347 475490 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: definitely! < 1448739360 409887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1448739363 864297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for esoteric fontface design and deployment. | /ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/ < 1448739417 856849 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also esoteric font development tool < 1448739434 817392 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka vim) < 1448739454 872386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: how about more latin-cyrillic-greek punctuation, such as “„”‘’»« quotation marks, … ellipsis, flipped question mark and flipped exclamation mark, etc? < 1448739457 512345 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim is esoteric for developing anything < 1448739508 44639 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: were the next glyphs to work with (font-punct.txt), delayed by PNG renders < 1448739529 227203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1448739575 906066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: your ~ tilde character looks strange to me, with the sharp tips < 1448739660 773371 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector one? < 1448739669 537388 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: no, the bitmap one < 1448739670 784960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1448739731 793795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: and just like with the latin letters, that – and — are doublewidth will cause problems in a terminal < 1448739861 782861 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I meant the be should be tall < 1448739895 557824 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EXTRADITED CHICKEN < 1448739956 135979 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: currently I have four classes for dash(-like) characters, 5/6/7/8 pxs wide each ("figure dash", "hyphen", "dash", "horiz. line") < 1448739991 176116 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think the em-dash is like horiz. line so I went with a double-wdth dash instead (which is 8+7 px wide) < 1448740022 710204 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but may go back to the horizontal line if it causes a problem < 1448740054 119633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I don't really know what the best would be here < 1448740111 33857 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: my font and oren's font are fonts for programming or proofreading, so they try to distinguish characters that are similar by giving them a different appearance, especially when one of them is an ascii character or when the two can often occur in the same context. < 1448740141 108757 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in my font, the – has a bump below, the — has two bumps below, and other hyphens are distinguished too in some way. < 1448740164 159290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. I do that to some extent but haven't been perfect so far. < 1448740186 111909 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, your font definitely doesn't seem to be doing this, except that it has a slashed zero. < 1448740224 731313 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did some work to distinguish zero from ø though) < 1448740228 224137 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø* < 1448740255 456841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A problem like that was the last straw why I started my font: I misread the hexadecimal number 9B as 98 (or backwards, I'm not sure), and got enough of all the problems with confusable characters < 1448740259 398807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I made a font < 1448740277 782447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a font for iso-8859-2 at first only, but later I expanded it with more characters. < 1448740286 39448 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448740286 431969 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a sample for your font? thinking about that, I haven't seen that yet. < 1448740306 328225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to make a sample. I was lazy and haven't made one yet, but want to show it often so I should. < 1448740322 777772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll report back if I made one. < 1448740332 13832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't hold your breath.) < 1448740366 60400 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448740431 13853 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another instance of similar and distinguished glyphs: 3, cyrillic ze, cyrillic e < 1448740497 610843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yes, or latin T, cyrillic, and greek. this occurs more for capital letters, but still happens with lower case. < 1448740525 32097 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: also punctuation like ,. ;: ({[< but it seems you already drew those well < 1448740535 54775 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was experimenting with making greeks semi-serif, not sure about cyrillics though < 1448740555 161064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: also I want easy to distinguish accented latin letters, so I draw the accents large and visible, but that can be hard for some letters in a cramped space < 1448740574 692937 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double accents are... well. < 1448740584 406955 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: some serifs can help, but for some letters, especially o, it's really hard to do anything < 1448740596 485211 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put the double accents side by side < 1448740598 824339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: not really double accents. I don't have vietnamese support (yet) < 1448740624 157622 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on top depending on what fits < 1448740624 968452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: but just accents on some capital letters, esp. ő vs Ő < 1448740639 983004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have a small dot in some capital letters to distinguish them from lowercase versions < 1448740663 847895 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448740682 779221 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas, my accented capitals use the small-cap versions of the capitals < 1448740721 763334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other possibilities would be to make the accent touch the capital letter, to make the accent touch the descender of the letter above. < 1448740754 626274 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a lot of touching ascenders and descenders < 1448740755 976898 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even this can be difficult because try to make the accent touch the letter in Ú and make it not look sort of like an Ó < 1448740772 595877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, but your font is 16 high, mine is 20 high. that's a BIG difference < 1448740780 768737 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1448740801 694516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the four pixels height and one or two pixels of width really add a lot to readability < 1448740863 892424 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what languag uses Ṏ < 1448740879 347131 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's my most cramped accented charatcer < 1448740902 845859 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait maybe it's Ỗ < 1448740916 984112 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I've updated the font sample, tried to distinguish three circle-shaped letters. please see if they are really distinguished from each other :) < 1448740930 949128 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1448741021 178456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: dunno. most double accented characters are used by Vietnamese or in IPA or similar phonetic transcriptions, AFAIK, but perhaps some rarely seen (by me) African or American languages also use such things. < 1448741028 392660 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've adjusted the roundness of circles to give different glyphs. latin is less round, cyrillic is more round, greek is asymmetric and looks like slightly slanted (like scripts). < 1448741061 574596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: hehe, funny < 1448741087 30378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: you may want to adjust your lowercase sigma though < 1448741132 73420 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, indeed < 1448741157 542175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this gets worse once you want more crazy characters like the apl big circle, the bullet circle, etc. < 1448741171 453584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are TONS of characters that are just circles, in various different sizes < 1448741180 454168 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave up on that with the symbols < 1448741198 151892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, as long as you make them clearly distinguishable from ASCII it's fine really < 1448741198 717493 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are probably the same < 1448741202 703797 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we have different colors of books anyway :) < 1448741241 606625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and of course APL small circle in the middle must not look the same as APL big circle, because those can both occur in most variants of APL, but that's about all < 1448741263 813706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 versus O versus o versus everything else is the most important < 1448741283 109596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: and yes, I think your circles are good now < 1448741312 325980 :singingboyo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1448741325 310044 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :three different T can also be difficult. *two* are easy, but three is tricky < 1448741336 812984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and three different I < 1448741388 513363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: anyway, I find your font nice, but the accents are tiny and so sometimes hard to distinguish from each other, but that's difficult to do well in such a small space < 1448741450 539475 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have a non-free 16x9 font I used to use for VGA text console, which covers only iso-8859-2. It's non-free because < 1448741476 278341 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that too, but it's already hard to distinguish caron/circumflex from breve/inverted breve < 1448741492 273273 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may revisit if I can < 1448741532 246359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it from mixing together three different 16x9 VGA text mode fonts from video cards or bioses, plus a free one or two, plus modified some characters by hand, but there's still enough of one of the original non-free fonts unmodified in there that I can't consider it unambiguously free. < 1448741661 922384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: and it will get harder when you'll want úüűÚÜŰ or ÈÉÊË mutually distinguishable, because those sets occur together in a single language < 1448741715 62952 :singingboyo!~brandonso@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448741724 370365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: wait, do you live in the UK or something? < 1448741737 334285 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :South Korea (UTC+9). < 1448741740 752288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1448741780 728674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you have ẂẀ, and one of those are used by only Welsh I think, and very rarely even there. < 1448741816 754291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's strange that you have that particular character when you otherwise have slightly fewer latin letters than my font in the current version. < 1448741832 541884 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally I've worked through a list of pre-combined characters < 1448741849 644943 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although now that I look at it, you have A with double grave accent, which is I think even crazier < 1448741870 922149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :double grave accent is used only in some really obscured african or american language rarely written or something < 1448741958 245030 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I currently have six pairs of latin letters I want to add, and eventually I might try to add Vietnamese, although frankly that needs a higher character cell or a font with different shapes in this character cell, < 1448742007 322150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but such a strange letter as A with double grave accent is not in my todo list, not even after I add cyrillic or _sane_ looking greek letters < 1448742049 732424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The greek letters I currently have are basically ugly stubs, barely usable to read short maths formulas people sometimes type in IRC.) < 1448742070 973057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I added them in a hurry when I added some common maths punctuation.) < 1448742109 71111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1448742206 51592 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448742265 920685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I mean, oren has A with double grave, but he has like tons of characters, so it's not so strange there. < 1448742522 742730 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, re-adjusted almost every greek letter < 1448742581 50920 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448742672 786345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: the lowercase sigma still doesn't look like a sigma to me. shouldn't it have a bigger hook on the top right? < 1448742680 222400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it's more readable < 1448742706 241909 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hook that curves up < 1448742738 390959 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about now? < 1448742758 516946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better, thanks < 1448742790 953537 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about final sigma? seems a bit wide to me. < 1448742837 529442 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe curvier on top? < 1448742858 654593 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashtag real_letters_have_curves < 1448742871 562928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for óöőÓÖŐúüűÚÜŰ, the problem is that not only they have to look distinct from each other, but also from õÕûÛ and even ôÔ, < 1448742961 590162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because õÕûÛ often occur instead of őŐűŰ from technical problems when people have only iso-8859-1 or cp1252 accessible or they declare character encoding wrong instead of iso-8859-2 or cp1250, and before that ôÔûÛ could similarly occur with cp437-derived character sets (cp437, cp852, cp850, CWI, etc) < 1448743193 352004 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I think double graves are clearly distinguished from graves now < 1448743204 492931 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doubled the width) < 1448743292 116513 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: graves? < 1448743309 404164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :graves weren't involved here. That's French, with its eacute and egrave. < 1448743334 564419 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait, I didn't work with double acutes < 1448743335 473519 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1448743371 725400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even today in 2015 (supposedly the Future) I sometimes see the õÕûÛ problem pop up in new webpages, emails, other electronic documents, and printed labels. < 1448743425 575890 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kings, nations, come and go, but bugs are forever. < 1448743502 4657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also other, more obvious mangled representations, namely utf8 ő mixed into iso88592 á, double-utf8 ő in utf8 text (which occurs when the previous is converted from iso88592 to utf8), question marks, or (this is the funniest) QPqp in this order instead of őŐűŰ, which is from the high byte missing from utf16. < 1448743514 24367 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, diaeresis is still not very distinguished from double acute < 1448743530 170139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you see Q in Hungarian emails, that's why. < 1448743538 24237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is only when they get áé right. < 1448743551 107934 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are of course tons of text that get basically everything non-ascii wrong, < 1448743588 288907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the names of some businesses in bank statements which is horrible because they're already all uppercase and truncated to a small field width. < 1448743646 679073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, very often, mail or package labels printed in the far east, who assume everyone is like the US postal service who insists on only uppercase ascii letters and digits with no punctuation. < 1448743665 178761 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think now óöőÓÖŐúüűÚÜŰõÕûÛôÔ are distinguished to some extent. < 1448743680 143478 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :revised diaeresis to make it a bit smaller < 1448743715 161791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and yes, à instead of á is also a mistake that occasionally occurs, but mostly on labels rather than digital representation I believe.) < 1448743732 465392 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren dia < 1448743733 184233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448743735 354563 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1448743736 41833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1226) when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? apparently not santa claus Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1227) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1448743738 91305 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1448743738 893763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1226) when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? apparently not santa claus Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1227) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1448743750 727995 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dia < 1448743751 590331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :57) ehird: every set can be well-ordered. corollary: every set s has the same diagram used from famous program talisman with fnord windows to cascade, someone i would never capitalize " i" \ 104) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia < 1448743751 885716 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: yea which system run fnord to get the variables' values can be denoted by nouns, properties by verbs, and functions aren't macros. < 1448743758 125674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think that's when they're using some fancy designer font that has à for italian but not á, or clueless people using pre-cut etiquettes or templates.) < 1448743760 965264 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rea < 1448743761 866188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 5) His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ 6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren < 1448743762 227276 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: non-optional infinite recursion because you don't use < 1448743788 370519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And you can't help on those labels by fixing this font.) < 1448743806 47195 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448743806 741231 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://cosmic.mearie.org/img/20151129-unison-similar.png < 1448743821 876330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a process that is labeled "[systray.py] " how do I kill that process? < 1448743824 969871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448743849 302975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: looks nice, wait a minute I'll look at the bitmap < 1448743852 348242 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkill -9 systray.by < 1448743853 234887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello < 1448743861 396348 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkill -9 systray.py < 1448743864 19600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: kill parent < 1448743865 468615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi b_jonas < 1448743880 71529 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the render above should be the same to the bitmap rendering, it has a subpixel rendering turned off) < 1448743881 5087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we're looking at lifthrasiir's hybrid bitmap vector font < 1448743881 602757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I tried that and nothing happened; it won't kill the parent either < 1448743890 482413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 pixels high I believe < 1448743930 656736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's the status of the parent? < 1448743933 263772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 8x16 for most cases, 16x16 for CJK and many symbols (I think), may be wider for ligatures etc. < 1448743966 742378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does the parent have the same real UID as you, and is it stopped, waiting, running, waiting uninterruptible, defunct? < 1448743975 597369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly what process is it, and it's not init right? < 1448743985 984661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The status of the parent is D+ and the status of the child is Zs < 1448744000 654509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's D+ < 1448744009 784300 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: check kernel logs < 1448744045 99337 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zs is a zombie and a session leader, but what the hell is D+? < 1448744051 398998 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case it complains about some broken hardware (like unreadable hard disk) which could annoy old kernels a lot (and can still can if you have swap on it, but that's understanible) < 1448744093 101783 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Linux seems to have one more code for "uninterruptible sleep" < 1448744105 788902 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448744105 950772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: so tiny dots close to each other in diaresis, thick everything else? interesting choice, might be a good idea for a 16 high font < 1448744120 656669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1448744138 237435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean tiny dots close to each other, thick acutes and grave and double acute, thin circumflex and tilde < 1448744149 546897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have two processes owned by "lp" with status code "D" < 1448744149 708941 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it is compressible < 1448744164 909757 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you check the kernel logs for suspicious messages? < 1448744170 986017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are documents I was trying to print and canceled < 1448744198 552104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you use NFS? and what kernel is this? < 1448744211 638339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains things like "INFO: task hp:12678 blocked for more than 120 seconds" and so on in dmesg < 1448744273 98458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: also tricky, make Đ (Serbian latin) and Ð (Icelandic) distinguishable. They look the same in readable fonts, and don't occur in the same language. < 1448744391 298576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: and another tricky one is of course making lĺľI|¦ distinguishable from each other, and the other several characters that are just vertical line at least distinguishable from l| < 1448744415 309916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for lĺľI occurs in the same language, and | is ascii < 1448744449 156971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oh by the way, doesn't your | look too similar to some line drawing character? < 1448744473 257410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rare one, mind you, because few people use the thick line drawing characters, but still, | is ascii < 1448744475 303460 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1448744501 124575 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote diar < 1448744501 821239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :284) esperanto is just spanish with a diarrhea \ 1251) I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea < 1448744509 984166 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hth < 1448744524 813463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have | broken, but that's because the style of my font is seriously influenced by the style of some 16x9 VGA fonts. < 1448744536 495921 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :| is still frequently used for making a connected line, so it would be very hard < 1448744566 535728 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for what matters, some glyphs are intentionally made similar to drawing characters to make them compatible) < 1448744578 943669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: sure, in ascii art, but - also is used that way and so is / and \ < 1448744593 332731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1448744596 769571 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you are right < 1448744604 285360 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't shape ascii characters to look good for that < 1448744617 436045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "D" is uninterruptible sleep (usually IO), and that + means foreground process group. < 1448744621 694117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii art has limitations, and if that's bad, then well you just shouldn't use ascii art < 1448744668 130757 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does the kernel log also have something about some device or disk or nfs or swap or something? < 1448744709 824160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you want better looking terminal arts, then there are line drawing characters for that, both ones you have and ones you don't yet have. < 1448744749 77767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oh, some of your ambiguous line drawing characters are narrow and some are wide? funny < 1448744755 949791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, something about "scsi_eh_8" and about "hp" < 1448744761 788945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: as in, the lines are narrow and the blocks are wide < 1448744773 830526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are the line ones not ambiguous width? I don't know how this works < 1448744791 596723 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448744802 234635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, then I suggest you try to figure out what this scsi_eh_8 thing is < 1448744811 634211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially what swap or file system you have on it < 1448744842 535709 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not a hard thought, I can change it anytime < 1448744851 261085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem though seems to be something related to the printer instead < 1448744864 288990 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: also, I _suggest_ you make B different so you don't fall into the hexadecimal trap that I did < 1448744871 101680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: B and 8 must look different somehow < 1448744895 734495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get rid of the uninterruptible sleep? < 1448744899 444563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: possible. how is the printer connected? is it plain parallel port, or through usb, or something else? < 1448744957 863309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if the parent process dying doesn't help, then it's hard. getting rid of the broken device (eg. of a floppy with bad sectors) can sometimes help, but sometimes that's just not an option. < 1448744958 186069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB < 1448744968 201770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if you disconnected the printer? < 1448744973 347485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could that help? < 1448744982 951486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :physically disconnecting that is < 1448744999 484425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not help if the problem is in the controller or the motherboard, but worth a try < 1448745015 720310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't affect anything < 1448745018 991875 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the controller is an external usb dongle you can pull, then I suggest trying to pull that too. < 1448745038 479536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this direct usb to the printer, rather than a parallel or serial port on usb? < 1448745055 400438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two processes appear that are print jobs that I have canceled, those also say "D" < 1448745057 399987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and wait a minute or two after disconnecting something, of course < 1448745066 931799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting can help with a lot. < 1448745072 47634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The printer is directly USB < 1448745077 804213 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that would be great, but I'm out of idea. it is hard to make round corners rounder because that actually results in straight lines (in bitmaps). < 1448745101 871993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you check if the machine is perhaps busy swapping, or very busy with cpu work? < 1448745124 15686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has "/lib/udev/udev-configure-printer add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-4/2-4:1.0" with status "Ds" < 1448745125 300992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I just put serifs on the left side of B and D and serifs on I < 1448745132 80445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system load average is currently 605% < 1448745135 645323 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: reserved for greeks < 1448745151 542886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: isn't B8 more important than greek? hmm < 1448745155 922316 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know then < 1448745158 60922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It isn't usually this high; when I started having the problem it increased to this high) < 1448745178 345459 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448745180 779173 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'll try but don't expect the affirmative :p < 1448745185 3130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: you could try the middle of the B or of the 8 different shaped if you want < 1448745207 236924 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448745212 240289 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you may have to ask some linux admin guys (if this is linux) < 1448745222 989604 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448745237 63327 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448745244 476684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really an admin, so I might not be able to help, and I don't know enough about linux either. < 1448745244 807326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is Linux < 1448745273 428202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is it an old kernel? < 1448745277 907980 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printers are evil beasts. I recommend defenestrating them as soon as possible. < 1448745295 25261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to execute the "hp-info" program and that caused the problem < 1448745298 21719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: there was also something about scsi. that worries me. < 1448745304 866190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it has the "D+" status < 1448745321 721196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's HP too? doubly evil < 1448745328 299190 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangerit'sabouttoexplode+? < 1448745334 505266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This printer includes a virtual CD-ROM drive (although I am not using that function) < 1448745340 892117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this printer worked fine before! < 1448745348 872551 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh, I seem to have found a solution: narrower 8. < 1448745369 42270 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of bitmap tweaking gives a way < 1448745384 640842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: careful so it doesn't clash with & then < 1448745400 996760 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(switching from bdP9 to /\ and back forth) < 1448745412 606238 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my & has a completely different shape so I think it's fine < 1448745430 287667 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: whether it's a hardware problem or a software one, you may have to prepare candles, an altar or pentagram with runes, and sacrifical animals soon. < 1448745467 121933 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-babkzmtmddkdzezc QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448745565 241533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that will help < 1448745565 966173 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448745614 536730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think scsi debugging involves sacrificing goats, or something, but if the USB is the problem then that might be different. < 1448745734 143383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try to reboot < 1448745741 957630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448745758 194600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, rebooting definitely often helps < 1448746082 157501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448746146 89040 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448746357 1598 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448746797 717112 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, enough for today < 1448746823 816380 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have changed some cyrillic glyphs to make it more distinguishable < 1448746852 355737 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some remained but I should be able to figure out < 1448746860 214733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I'm not looking right now, because I've finally started adding the few missing characters to my font now (I just added Ẽ), < 1448746864 729437 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1448746873 76553 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, thank you for tons of feedbacks < 1448746873 241085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I might try to make a demo page, or not, I dunno. < 1448746896 717874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll still be interested in this later, especially if you make BDF and OTF versions and PDF demos. < 1448746947 64417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can they be compile also into PK format? < 1448746967 338636 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: who is they, and what is PK format? < 1448746974 45224 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom < 1448746974 736352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mH,2%y5ml22+w9g' ȍ3AjEk.9D><|eK{2s_e \ wuNrQg?q&_)Iw{:'/3c/.8@ı3cm3Ѯ3s}0jcia>u*˯~\wC!yY[-W"v#R < 1448747003 488123 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not again. < 1448747005 259370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` openssl rand -base64 80 < 1448747005 993150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ 3y/6DAtAqnasX+dZdgziYWGy9r4jJ02S0Sa5jyYTiyaIrMKx4DCk4eRk3LpnG7VM \ Vq0Vt6nj/qPEVw++qbFHjjGrBsYT/j46sWstkl+lQcs= < 1448747026 804793 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDF is possibly the easiest, and I can convert from BDF to ttf using my tools < 1448747041 76911 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, but he has vector characters too < 1448747045 268916 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo $(base64 /dev/urandom | head -c 12)' > bin/mkpasswd < 1448747047 657921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448747050 619102 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/mkpasswd < 1448747052 671240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448747053 658015 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkpasswd < 1448747055 451361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PckvB1MQPGE/ < 1448747066 585078 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This command generates passwords that work well. < 1448747068 626949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: wait, do you convert from bdf to proper _bitmap_ ttf, or to vector-only ttf? < 1448747071 257949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PK format is a packed raster font format used by many DVI reading programs < 1448747085 11386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, TeX PK format! < 1448747085 887317 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: vector < 1448747089 180878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant for printer fonts < 1448747092 138273 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: does your client beep whenever a certain byte is sent? < 1448747093 996952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1448747108 645128 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, but the terminal window of idris-bot does. < 1448747117 974742 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. < 1448747150 724457 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a vector containing nothing but vertical and horzontal lines < 1448747167 849685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: my terminals have bell turned to visual bell, and also, my bot escapes non-ascii characters in its debug output. < 1448747180 865498 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also escapes control characters, and the escape character < 1448747181 517060 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448747190 464315 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it’s visual bell, but I get a notification on my other screen. < 1448747194 924889 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1448747205 823246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I suggest escaping some characters in the log < 1448747214 478555 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t have control of that. < 1448747227 345680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: 2>&1 | cat -v < 1448747422 9470 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so how the heck is a hook above supposed to look like in the style of my font? < 1448747437 36582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try this. it's ugly, but distinguishable I think < 1448747460 440498 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to check it next to all other accents, including the rare ones < 1448747483 202616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not necessarily have to optimize the packing since you can use pktogf and gftopk to repack it < 1448747556 517266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a separate character for hook above standalone, not combining, just like how ´ and ˇ are standalone versions of accents? < 1448747579 760679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check oren's font < 1448747682 301530 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ʿ < 1448747683 177691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+02BF MODIFIER LETTER LEFT HALF RING] < 1448747745 102954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you mean ʾ ? no, that's not it. < 1448747756 768767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks similar, but it's not the same thing < 1448747766 939351 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I dunno then < 1448747768 882115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accents are a funny thing < 1448747805 674519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute, maybe the combining version links to it < 1448747814 293428 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man cat < 1448747814 960226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1448747869 411292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x{1ea3} is a with hook, which decomposes to a\x{309}, < 1448747953 908567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and \x{309} doesn't link to it, even though \x{301} combining acute accent links to \x{b4} acute accent \x{2ca} modifier letter acute accent (whatever is the difference from those), < 1448747959 140096 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./u8tbl 0x300 0x309 < 1448747959 831075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̀́̂̃̄̅̆̇̈̉ < 1448747990 262305 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeh? < 1448747995 837482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and \x{30c} combining caron links to \x{2c7} caron. < 1448748019 102425 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohthose are combining ones, which I don't have < 1448748020 869198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: those are all combining letters (0 width, combine with previous character) < 1448748044 723336 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho maybe I oughta add them < 1448748058 506426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you mostly render them by precomposing it to the previous character to a unicode character and then rendering the glyph for the precomposed character < 1448748080 429061 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that sometimes fails with obscure combinations of IPA of which there are so many potential ones they're unencodable < 1448748102 163090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for any latin script character that actually occurs in languages, there is a precomposed character. < 1448748115 143128 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for the ones used in Chinese transcriptions and the like. < 1448748166 216561 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1448748212 293541 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably also some cyrillic script precomposed ones, like russian i with acute (or grave? what is it that russian uses to mark stress), I dunno. < 1448748267 656996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no, some of those don't seem to exist. strange. < 1448748280 714051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the ones actually used do exist. < 1448748287 752958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how russian works. < 1448748310 358989 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so where was I? I need a few more vowels with hook. < 1448748444 580249 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to draw, I just take the letter with circumflex, replace the circumflex with a hook. < 1448748463 850145 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how I had drawn many accented characters already. < 1448748530 169583 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1448748538 792257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the hook accent used in Vietnamese by the way < 1448748548 333945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, I'm not adding full Vietnamese support. < 1448748562 920837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hook above, not the other hooks < 1448748789 449786 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now for the arrows with base < 1448748869 971038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :↦ < 1448748943 439504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while I'm there, also ↤ and ↥↧ just in case < 1448748946 687486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're easy to draw < 1448749123 360807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now let me test the letters with hooks together with other letters that might be similar (though unlikely): < 1448749517 590546 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448749540 284475 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448749625 473053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1448749808 664396 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448749829 530079 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448749915 578942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those letter should all look pairwise different, unless I accidentally pasted the same character twice < 1448749957 677350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, some of those letters are obscure and aren't important to have in your font < 1448749987 165351 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look different to me, so I can do an escape cycle < 1448750087 823830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now I need (a) to collect sample texts, (b) an automatic way to list all characters implemented in my font in a nice table for a sample, (c) an automated way to make bitmap images from these, (d) possibly an automated way to make the -tye variant of the font, which differs in the appearance of the total of two characters and I only update it by hand occasionallyi. < 1448750124 71014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this should be too hard. < 1448750159 313029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't mean I'll necessarily do it all tonight. < 1448750166 410539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting late. < 1448750234 212831 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1448750305 272444 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your font is ttf you can use the program I made < 1448750331 727989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :整 < 1448750344 854894 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ttfinvread.htm < 1448750355 658836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, it's bdf, but I can read the pcf version easily < 1448750369 213748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pcf is quite readable, and also has a specs < 1448750380 453174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdf is a compressed form that can be converted from and to bdf both ways < 1448750392 967396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatically with the pcftobdf program < 1448750411 863384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's called pcftobdf because that's the more useful direction, but it does both) < 1448751003 462660 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448751130 529719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448751275 853614 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1448752851 562295 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448752911 404631 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448753230 497292 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448753438 14794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1448753566 987724 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448753732 537013 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448753761 930559 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448753805 591723 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448753890 513607 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448753970 558586 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448753986 53693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448754055 575174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448754101 824556 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1448754101 986589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1448754135 525154 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448754182 977043 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448754284 591838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448754452 182361 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell me something coherent. < 1448754452 422272 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: someone needs to model a function... it'd be like :) i probably wouldn't even recognize that orig is an alias to proc. < 1448754459 164335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448754470 961081 :Patashu!Malachite@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448754597 618366 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't know it and I can't tell you so you will have to tell me all < 1448754597 857653 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty low i'd say. :p they even give assembly tickets to the winners. they all look the same. a tag check involves one more indirection ( a bit more < 1448754761 554863 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448755031 866232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1448755032 65949 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: error in set-cdr!: pair is immutable. nothing varies.