00:00:58 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:01:07 boily: Oh :/ 00:01:43 I had an idea while walking home 00:03:44 what was the idea? 00:04:47 <\oren\> hi boily! 00:05:19 \helloren\! 00:05:31 <\oren\> i'm on my phone! 00:05:40 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45138 * Hppavilion1 * (+238) 32 bit machines 00:05:59 boily: TOPL. Train-Oriented Programming Language. 00:06:17 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45139&oldid=45138 * Hppavilion1 * (+95) Signed 00:06:54 \oren\: that's slereah's schtick, to be on a phone. 00:06:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:07:02 `? slereah 00:07:03 slereah? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:07:16 huh. I thought I had something phony about him... 00:07:42 hppavilion[1]: what kind of train? diesel, electric, maglev? 00:07:50 he's french, is that phony enough? 00:07:51 boily: Doesn't matter. Abstract trains, really. 00:08:01 (hoily) 00:08:09 I'm not a train fanatic, but suddenly I am in love with this idea 00:08:25 I'm quasifrench. maybe téléphonesque? 00:08:28 (hellœrjan) 00:08:29 It's a declarative language that executes on a sort-of-directed graph 00:08:39 <\oren\> im sshing to my computer 00:08:50 (Or maybe imperative. Somewhere in between) 00:08:59 semimperative. 00:09:15 boily: Basically 00:09:17 the Wisdom PDF has “He's on a phone!” about Slereah. 00:09:32 `culprits wisdom/slereah 00:09:34 No output. 00:09:43 seems to never have existed 00:10:03 It's kind of like Stare, where imperative instructions are executed upon declarative conditions 00:10:17 `rm test 00:10:18 rm: cannot remove `test': No such file or directory 00:10:21 <\oren\> how do you screenshot on android again? 00:10:22 I might also add Telegraph to it 00:10:22 `culprits test 00:10:24 int-e oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Lyrissa mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ Hjulle oerjan oerjan elliott oerjan blotter blotter blotter oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Roujo oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan shachaf elliott FreeFull oer 00:11:15 `test 00:11:15 No output. 00:11:16 `` ls wisdom/*lere* 00:11:18 ls: cannot access wisdom/*lere*: No such file or directory 00:11:19 `? test 00:11:20 test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. 00:11:46 mroman_mroman_mroman_mroman 00:12:36 \oren\: hold down power and home at the same time. or volume down and power. or volume down and home. 00:13:09 `learn Slereah est sur un téléphone 00:13:12 Learned 'slereah': Slereah est sur un téléphone 00:13:16 blotter? 00:13:51 En effet. D'ailleurs, parlant de Slereah, y'est rendu où? 00:15:02 * oerjan ran that through GT and still doesn't know what boily is asking 00:15:53 “Indeed. Moreover, speaking about Slereah, where is he?” 00:16:13 not so bad. GT is improving! 00:16:18 argh stupid tunes doesn't reload when i revisit the tab 00:17:38 boily: he used to be in france... 00:18:08 he's on the network 00:20:22 I enjoy giving partial explanations <-- in the interest of discouraging partiality, why didn't you eat it yet twh 00:20:58 hm he might be asleep 00:22:00 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/androidscreenshot.png 00:23:43 \oren\, remove the last line of your homepage imho 00:24:03 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45140&oldid=45139 * SuperJedi224 * (+147) 00:24:16 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45141&oldid=45140 * SuperJedi224 * (-1) 00:26:19 <\oren\> Phantom_Hoover: why ? 00:26:35 @ask Taneb are you asleep? 00:26:35 Consider it noted. 00:26:41 because it's pointless, who cares what you made your website to look good on 00:26:58 ok sorry i don't want to be an asshole about it 00:27:15 but the rest of the page is fine and it's obvious what you were going for with the design 00:27:53 <\oren\> good point if you can see the text then... 00:28:45 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45142&oldid=42222 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+435) /* Page removal request */ new section 00:28:59 \oren\: you should add a gopher version of you website. 00:31:05 <\oren\> lol sure why not 00:32:04 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45143&oldid=45142 * Hppavilion1 * (+254) Advised on question 00:36:20 I made up a gopher server software with C in case you need it and/or want to make improvement of it 00:36:41 according to Wikipédia, gophers are: «... une famille de rongeurs appelés géomys, gaufres à poche, rats à poche...» 00:37:00 «gaufres à poche», also known as “pocketed waffles”. 00:38:41 [wiki] [[TOPL]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45144 * Hppavilion1 * (+554) Created Page, figuring out what I'm doing 00:39:07 boily, I am not asleep, just a little distracted 00:39:13 oerjan, I have eaten it now 00:39:18 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45145&oldid=45141 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+579) 00:39:57 [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[User:-Dark-Phantom-/DStack]]": Author request: content was: "'''DStack''' is a stack-based esoteric language created by [[User:-Dark-Phantom-|-Dark-Phantom-]] on November, 2015. The language uses two stacks, a..." (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/-Dark-Phantom-|-Dark-Phantom-]]") 00:40:52 -!- adu has joined. 00:42:13 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45146&oldid=45143 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+218) /* Page removal request */ 00:48:02 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45147&oldid=45146 * Oerjan * (+288) /* Page removal request */ Done 00:48:30 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45148&oldid=45147 * Oerjan * (-1) /* Page removal request */ indentation 00:50:00 What weird things should I do with the EsOS? 00:50:11 Maybe an intercallian command line? 00:50:15 Do you like all of various new Magic: the Gathering cards that I have made up? There is even a few more recently. 00:50:42 hppavilion[1]: OK, although you should need to describe such thing more specifically too 00:50:58 zzo38: Describe which thing? 00:51:09 More specifically? 00:51:34 Also, hezzo38! 00:52:14 Such thing as EsOS and intercallian command line; if you make a document (even if just of ideas) then we can see the details of how such thing is working please. 00:52:32 [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45149&oldid=45148 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+202) /* Page removal request */ 00:53:27 As I need to be up early... 00:53:28 Goodnight! 00:53:36 zzo38: Yes, I will 00:54:08 zzo38: This EsOS is being made in Python, because there is /no/ way I was ever going to get it done in C or Rust 00:54:12 So it's more of a meta-OS 00:54:53 OK 00:55:10 I already have the text renderer and the command line window thing :) 00:55:51 (I made my own text renderer instead of using Tkinter's create_text function such as to be more eso) 01:06:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:09:46 -!- Frooxius has joined. 01:13:29 hppavilion[1]: oOo meta 01:15:54 helloily 01:20:48 quinthellopia! 01:21:09 We go to /way/ too much effort for eshellos. 01:21:21 boily: i posted a language 01:21:31 ! 01:21:49 hppavilion[1]: the quinthellopia is quintessential to salute quintopia. 01:22:21 Sure. 01:22:42 helloily is less essential, as it may be bon matily in the mornings 01:23:19 you shoyld feedback CASTLE boily 01:23:27 oerjan is too behind 01:23:40 huh? eh? wut? CASTLE??? 01:23:41 <\oren\> this damnable thing doesnt have page up so i have to prress esc[5~ 01:24:04 <\oren\> stupid android 01:25:44 on the wiki 01:25:51 <\oren\> yes,page up is the same as esc[5~ idk why 01:26:31 \oren\: oh android 01:27:00 oh. 01:27:05 Does Android not define page up key? That isn't very good. 01:27:08 \oren\: I usually use -i for tab 01:27:56 I'm calling the command line INTERCOM 01:28:04 OK 01:28:06 hppavilion[1]: noOo 01:28:10 <\oren\> the keyboard im using dorsn't have page up it d have tab tho 01:28:12 adu: Why? 01:28:22 hppavilion[1]: please maybe don't give up 01:28:31 Huh? 01:28:41 hppavilion[1]: that's valid INTERCAL 01:28:47 Ah 01:28:50 xD 01:29:03 quintopia: itym "excluded", but "disincluded" is very boilywordlike, so I approve. 01:29:06 It's not actually that much like INTERCAL because I want it to be usable 01:29:14 please do run my program 01:29:21 <\oren\> ok I'm on my computer now 01:29:39 please do exec bash -c "echo hello world" 01:29:42 boily: its also a real word 01:30:01 it is??? 01:30:22 adu: Yeah... not THAT intercallian. I'm just going to do weird command names to start with, work towards Eso nirvanna from there 01:31:44 Anyone have any suggestions for what I should do to make it Eso? 01:31:46 Eso nirvanna? is there such a thing? 01:31:58 adu: Optimal esoness 01:32:07 (satisfying certain properties) 01:32:07 oh, I get it, eso nirvanna = hell 01:32:15 adu: ... 01:32:16 Sure. 01:32:27 jk 01:32:32 That's definitely what I meant. 01:32:38 boily: slang but popular 01:33:01 How about some stackiness? 01:33:03 That works 01:33:07 Stack it is. 01:33:30 i think it will be accepted in my lifetime, since it has different shades of meaning than exclude 01:34:16 An esoptimal language is asymptotic. 01:34:17 "just because we didnt include you doesnt mean we /excluded/ you" 01:34:39 seen like that, disincluded has to exist. 01:36:10 any comments on the language? 01:45:19 some day, it will no longer be disincluded from the dictionary 01:50:28 oerjan: I have a dream... 01:51:52 gnight boily 01:52:00 Another kind of INTERCAL that I made up is stuff like: MAYBE DO NOT COME FROM CHOICE 01:52:42 (where CHOICE represents the choicepoint stack) 01:52:51 * adu *mind blown* 01:53:55 https://youtu.be/NxC4sGpIDTw 01:54:04 (CHOICE is for back-tracking and LIFE is for front-tracking; I don't know how front-tracking is working though!) 01:54:22 bonne nuitopia! 01:54:48 @tell quintopia the language is quite nice! I got distracted by golly >_>'... 01:54:48 Consider it noted. 01:55:01 -!- boily has quit (Quit: FIELD CHICKEN). 01:56:25 I see that sequence above me as "boily's last wish was to tell quintopia that the language is good, before he entered an irreversible spiral into the world of Golly, where he would meet his demise. Time of death: 16:55:00 on 2015-11-06." 01:58:23 it's a little known fact that the game of life contains black holes that suck you in 02:00:11 oerjan: Convembuary is GoL awareness month 02:00:33 oerjan: in the real projective plane, I knew that 02:01:07 oerjan: it's a little known fact that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfram's_2-state_3-symbol_Turing_machine is the smallest universal Turing machine 02:01:21 adu: i knew that hth 02:02:09 INTERCOM's metaphors are all related to fishing for some reason 02:02:31 lolol 02:02:55 I might have to redo it xD 02:03:42 adu: exercise: starting from that page, find ais523's middle name 02:03:55 I don't know ais523's middle name 02:04:21 well i do *MWAHAHAHA* 02:04:26 lol 02:04:28 ok 02:04:30 so? 02:04:41 ais harold 523? 02:04:45 well that would be telling. 02:04:56 His last name is 523, right? 02:06:11 actually his last name is Smith hth 02:06:25 (that should be enough of a hint) 02:07:39 Will? 02:09:28 no hth 02:09:39 the exercise wasn't about guessing btw 02:10:01 but about digging out evidence. 02:10:08 -!- bb010g has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 02:17:03 oerjan: found it: "I/O" 02:17:15 Alex I/O Smith 02:17:30 I/O KAY 02:18:15 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:19:34 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45150&oldid=45145 * SuperJedi224 * (+128) 02:19:42 [wiki] [[Talk:DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45151&oldid=45150 * SuperJedi224 * (+98) 02:24:30 oerjan: is it infinite? 02:24:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 02:30:52 no, pretty short 02:32:46 Ian? 02:33:50 * oerjan whistles innocently 02:35:20 Al? 02:35:37 i seem to recall i said this was not about guessing. 02:35:52 oerjan: I wasn't online when you said that 02:35:56 Oh wait, I was 02:36:06 I didn't read it though 02:40:06 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?user=4464;list=wiki 02:40:55 * adu wins 02:41:01 so you do 02:41:07 and in an unexpected way, too 02:41:21 -!- getse has joined. 02:42:17 Hm... 02:42:26 I've backed myself into a corner here, I think 02:42:43 I can only have commands with a single argument the way the data model works 02:42:55 hppavilion[1]: I'm writing a language like that 02:43:19 How to fix it, how to fix it... 02:43:42 I want to have advanced commands in the same vein as grep and such to be possible, but I don't know how 02:43:53 there are only two commands ! { } and ? { } 02:44:28 -!- getse has left. 02:45:16 and the way I solved it was to add parentheses 02:45:38 That won't work for me though 02:47:02 The language's data model is fairly complex: An infinite array of deques, an accumulator stack, and a scalar intermediate accumulator through which all inbound and outbound data much cross 02:47:10 s/much/must/ 02:47:45 And I've backed myself into a corner by making it scalar. Now I don't know how to have multi-argument functions 02:47:57 And I don't see how to fix it by making it an array 02:48:46 And I can't make it a stack, because it has to hold data even when one uses data from it 02:48:50 adu: Have any ideas? 02:48:51 [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck--]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45152&oldid=34258 * SuperJedi224 * (+110) 02:50:16 hppavilion[1]: I prefer belts to stacks 02:50:25 belts? 02:51:07 belts are stacks with a fixed size 02:51:53 I give up, I'm just making it an array 02:53:19 adu: Have I told you about my 2D queue idea? 02:53:23 technically all stacks are belts, but they're belts of length 100 MiB, whereas most belts are of length 16 or so 02:53:38 hppavilion[1]: nope 02:53:44 It's cool, I think 02:54:05 Basically, the data model of a 2Queue is a queue of queues 02:54:43 When you dequeue an element, you're really dequeuing a queue, dequeuing an element called "e" from that queue, reenqueuing that queue, then returning e. 02:54:52 Not sure what its use is, but it's awesome 02:56:18 could be used to break up a queue into a distributed queue 02:56:33 (Enqueuing is similar: Dequeue a queue, enqueue the element, enqueue the new queue) 02:56:50 You could also have a Stack*Queue 02:56:54 like the stuff that needs to be done vs. stuff that is going to be done by Host#101 02:57:27 (well, a queue*stack, as data structure multiplication isn't communist) 02:57:33 (s/communist/commutative) 02:57:38 lol 02:57:55 computing behind the iron curtain... 03:04:23 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 03:08:56 -!- andrew_ has joined. 03:11:28 -!- lleu has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 03:28:42 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 03:32:02 I know once when I told my brother that something was not commutative, he then asked, "But is it communist?" 03:37:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:47:09 I think I have now figured out how to do vertical discretionaries with prebreak texts and postbreak texts in TeX, although not how to do nonbreak texts. 03:49:07 (For example, you can write "(continued on next page)" on the bottom of a page.) 03:52:57 -!- shikhin has joined. 03:56:02 I should work on Kleinfunge 04:02:50 dare I ask? 04:03:06 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 04:04:26 The clean subset of Grossfunge. 04:09:34 nchambers: It's a fungeoid with mechanisms to manipulate topology 04:09:59 As in Klein bottle. Not Calvin Klein. 04:14:18 [wiki] [[Kleinfunge]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45153&oldid=44821 * Hppavilion1 * (+143) Stargates, why not? 04:16:18 [wiki] [[Kleinfunge]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45154&oldid=45153 * Hppavilion1 * (+248) Utility 04:16:33 nchambers: Although... 04:18:26 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:27:13 :D 04:37:13 lol I have a file that says it was created today, 10 minutes ago, and modified in 2008 04:40:16 -!- ^v^v has joined. 04:43:45 Sgeo: How did THAT happen? 04:43:59 Copied an old file to my desktop 04:46:00 [wiki] [[DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45155&oldid=45137 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+31) link to GitHub 04:55:40 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 04:56:44 [wiki] [[User talk:CakeProphet]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45156 * Hppavilion1 * (+175) EsOS 04:58:27 Why is the spacing of the output of the "wc" command different when the input is redirected from a file as it is when redirected from a pipe? 05:07:54 [wiki] [[DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45157&oldid=45155 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+115) categories 05:09:22 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45158&oldid=45126 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+13) /* D */ DStack 05:21:44 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 05:23:28 [wiki] [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45159&oldid=45123 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+102) DStack 05:32:54 [wiki] [[Truth-machine]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45160&oldid=44349 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+37) DStack 05:39:19 -!- copumpkin has joined. 05:43:29 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:59:10 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 06:12:03 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 06:17:22 Do you know why? 06:32:25 -!- JesseH has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:36:20 -!- ^v^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:40:44 [wiki] [[CASTLE]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45161&oldid=45116 * Quintopia * (+1421) Made explicit the (random) way marked cells behave under symmetries. Added prefix to prevent marked cell permutation. 07:02:51 `` wc 1 1 9 \ 1 1 9 07:03:13 `` wc canary 07:03:14 1 1 9 canary 07:03:32 `` wc <(cat canary) 07:03:33 1 1 9 /dev/fd/63 07:04:03 Interesting. 07:08:20 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 07:39:25 `` hexdump -C canary 07:39:26 00000000 53 70 6a c3 a6 74 74 21 0a |Spj..tt!.| \ 00000009 08:14:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 08:28:26 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 08:32:43 -!- shikhin has joined. 08:41:49 -!- mroman has joined. 08:42:11 Why isn't it ##esoteric btw? 09:04:32 Hysterical raisins. 09:05:08 There was some talk of moving at some point, but nobody seemed to be that interested. 09:08:34 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 09:11:15 so... anybody has an opinion about that GI thing? 09:15:56 -!- andrew_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:16:38 -!- andrew_ has joined. 09:50:38 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:56:45 -!- andrew_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:16:18 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:10:11 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:10:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection timed out). 11:11:19 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:12:38 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:17:16 mroman: yeah... we don't want to move. I'm running #jsoftware too, which totally should be double-flatted, 11:18:52 If someone seriously comes up and convinces freenode that he needs the single-sharped channel, then we'll move, but that's unlikely 11:30:20 -!- mroman has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:30:50 -!- mroman has joined. 11:31:50 fnárd 11:32:24 git add *.* && git commit -m "fnord" && git push -u origin master --tags 11:33:30 Oh. 11:33:31 Nice. 11:33:35 This is the right channel. 11:41:49 Codegolf.Stackxechange should stop calling itself codegolf. 11:42:07 People downvote code because they 'think' it does not work 11:45:20 can't you downvote those people... ;) 11:54:10 this is nice... class Foo implements Serializable { private final Runnable initHook; public void readObject(ObjectInputStream ois) { ois.defaultReadObject(); initHook.run(); } } ... what could possibly go wrong? 12:00:10 nothing. 12:00:19 where is that from? 12:02:50 http://www.slideshare.net/frohoff1/appseccali-2015-marshalling-pickles 12:02:57 http://mroman.ch/burlesque/docs/BLSQ.html 12:03:05 ^- Does that look decent as a documentation format? 12:03:19 I'm using pandoc MD -> HTML and some CSS 12:04:24 slide 12 wtf 12:04:30 That's not how anything of this works 12:05:54 what do you mean .... it's just skipping over details to get to the interesting parts. 12:06:09 there's a class name in there, and a field name, and the field type... 12:06:19 I mean 12:06:24 you don't save a "isAdmin=1" on the client 12:06:41 not in a cookie, not in a base64 encoded cookie, not in a base64 encoded serialized java object 12:06:58 which is why the exploits later on generally do something more interesting. 12:07:12 I'm not really a Java-Expert 12:07:20 In any case I'm sure this has happened. 12:07:23 but I'd say readObject shouldn't really trigger much else 12:07:40 int-e: There were a lot of php webapps that did set isAdmin cookies, yes. 12:07:55 Because at a glance, serialized objects look inscrutable, so nobody is going to bother modifying those... right ;) 12:08:33 And also, you need to ship the fucking application, deadlines are more important than basic security. 12:09:03 (you can always fix that later) 12:09:18 ;-) ;-> :-P <-- sprinkle those above as needed. 12:09:46 I know damn well that deadlines are more important than anything else 12:09:49 deadlines give money 12:09:52 security not. 12:10:19 We've released two unfinished products as "finished" :D 12:10:37 and it gets interesting when you use DSLs with no clear client/server separation in the source code. 12:12:35 and I work in IT Security 12:12:40 that's the worst part about that :) 12:12:41 but well... 12:12:50 in the end you need money to pay the developers salaries. 12:15:14 Documentation looks fine, but I'm not a big fan of the asymmetric boxes (with the top border thicker than the bottom border), and I would probably try to separate the commands more visibly (is it possible to indent the descriptions of the individual commands?) 12:16:36 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:19:45 oh I came from http://foxglovesecurity.com/2015/11/06/what-do-weblogic-websphere-jboss-jenkins-opennms-and-your-application-have-in-common-this-vulnerability/ which also seems worth reading. 12:23:50 Depends on if pandoc generates

or something 12:23:58 then I could indent h1 p or something 12:24:27 nah. that won't work :( 12:25:12 I could indent pre elements? 12:25:30 If that's what you meant? 12:45:03 -!- TieSoul has joined. 12:49:42 -!- TieSoul has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:54:30 -!- jix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:55:15 "When Java reads in a serialized object, the first thing it does after reading in the raw bytes is call the user-defined “readObject” method if it exists." 12:55:20 That's nice 12:55:35 -!- TieSoul has joined. 13:02:17 yeah, that way you can do some custom things 13:02:30 like custom serialization formats and the like 13:06:12 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:10:26 Jafet: you could do good things with that, like *validation* to protect against malicious modification ;) 13:11:15 (but of course it may be too late for that at that point) 13:36:12 -!- mroman has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 13:46:29 -!- mauris has joined. 13:58:24 -!- Frooxius has joined. 14:22:04 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:01:04 -!- lleu has joined. 15:03:41 [wiki] [[User:InputUsername]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45162&oldid=43674 * InputUsername * (-60) Removed dead link 15:09:47 [wiki] [[Langar.io]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45163&oldid=43655 * InputUsername * (+104) 15:17:29 so... anybody has an opinion about that GI thing? <-- coool hth 15:18:02 well ... 15:18:28 still 3 days to find out what it actually _is_ 15:19:10 next up, get a polymath project to strengthen it to polynomial twh 15:19:44 (with enormous luck, i might understand the proof?) 15:22:23 What's GI-complete, anyway? 15:24:34 Jafet: that's an ambiguous question, please clarify 15:25:39 * oerjan is too tired to think again, and the neighbors are wearing high heels or something 15:29:07 According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_isomorphism_problem#GI-complete_and_GI-hard_problems GI-complete seems to mainly consist of other variants of GI. 15:35:10 [wiki] [[User:SuperJedi224]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45164&oldid=44288 * SuperJedi224 * (+16) 15:36:07 what GI thing? 15:36:27 (I'm assuming it's graph isomorphism, but what's new about them?) 15:37:17 there's an announcement of a presentation of a proof that it's solvable in quasi-polynomial time 15:37:25 (in 3 days) 15:37:53 http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2521 15:37:55 ah, sounds exciting indeed 15:53:11 why isn't edwardk around 15:54:09 @tell edwardk It seems like I and András Kovács almost simultaneously got the same idea to fix your Data.Constraint.Forall. 15:54:09 Consider it noted. 16:12:00 and i finally get sucked into getting a github account. 16:14:00 oerjan: based on yesterday's events he is probably asleep right now hth 16:14:25 what happened then 16:14:40 argh verification email is slow 16:23:51 [wiki] [[CASTLE]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45165&oldid=45161 * Quintopia * (+987) conditional transitions 16:27:19 -!- mauris_ has joined. 16:29:12 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:37:25 <\oren\> Gastro-Intestinal-Complete? 16:38:39 <\oren\> "A machine is GI-complete if it has the same computing power as the gut bacteria of a healthy mammal." 16:40:57 -!- JesseH has joined. 16:41:11 -!- zadock has joined. 16:42:08 -!- Wright has joined. 16:47:16 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 16:54:34 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:56:12 [wiki] [[DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45166&oldid=45157 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+18) Category:2015 16:57:13 -!- MDude has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:06:11 -!- lleu has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 17:06:19 -!- lleu has joined. 17:13:55 * \oren\ . o O (sofuto kaihatsu jogakuen) 17:21:23 \helloren\ 17:21:40 ah yes, what oerjan says 17:22:19 \oren\: I have a preliminary plan about how to extend my keyboard layout, adding more letters, but now I have doubts about it 17:22:32 \oren\: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/keymap 17:22:48 \oren\: perhaps you want to comment 17:24:19 hmm, I should add a very few punctuation signs, namely × and ° 17:27:23 <\oren\> you may wish to have a shift for greek letters. (I just shift into jp and then　アルファ ⇒ α) 17:29:36 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:30:09 \oren\: I don't think I ever type greek letters 17:30:47 \alpha \beta \gamma \delta... 17:31:25 <\oren\> arufa be-ta ganma deruta 17:32:12 ganma? really? 17:32:29 <\oren\> yeah 17:32:37 ok 17:32:37 <\oren\> がんま 17:33:24 <\oren\> ramuda -> ラムダ -> λ 17:33:31 ok, those are easy. how do you write theta and phi? 17:34:07 <\oren\> テータ　ファイ 17:34:17 <\oren\> te-ta fai 17:34:23 (do they say "mega" of omega in greek or Japanese?) 17:35:03 <\oren\> looks like it's omega in japanese 17:35:11 <\oren\> I hadn't used that one 17:35:30 heh, I thought you knew the complete set 17:35:56 <\oren\> nah, I ha to look up lambda, I had only used a few of them 17:36:07 ok 17:36:11 <\oren\> I thought it would be lamubuda 17:36:29 <\oren\> or ramubuda 17:37:06 <\oren\> but no, la -> small a 17:37:27 <\oren\> https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9B 17:37:51 <\oren\> the sidebar has all of them 17:38:22 I see 17:40:24 <\oren\> japanese IME's can also type weird things like enu -> Н 17:40:28 \oren\: yes, and the table https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A2%E6%96%87%E5%AD%97#.E6.96.87.E5.AD.97 gives multiple names 17:40:42 <\oren\> that's a cyrillic en 17:41:05 yes it i9s 17:41:14 although it looks like a H 17:41:36 <\oren\> basicaly, if it exists in the JIS encoding, an IME can type it 17:43:54 <\oren\> jis includes greek and cyrillic, but in JIS they are treated as unusual kanji (double width) 17:45:19 <\oren\> α has the reading: あるふぁ 17:46:35 \oren\: and do you also have a way to find out how to type any such characters in an IME? 17:46:51 <\oren\> not really 17:48:24 <\oren\> but typically you can find it by copypasting into the search box of japanese wikiedia 17:53:15 -!- mroman has joined. 18:05:46 ooh cool 18:06:11 andraskovacs found a workaround for the bug 18:13:02 -!- mauris__ has joined. 18:16:02 -!- mauris_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:19:38 -!- mauris_ has joined. 18:19:57 Data.Constraint.Forall might be repaired 18:22:31 -!- mauris_ has changed nick to mauris. 18:22:31 -!- mauris__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:37:02 oh, that's not the same bug then 18:37:22 have you seen ais523 these days? 18:37:30 I think he hasn't been in for a week 18:38:00 > (14/22.0)*400 18:38:02 254.54545454545453 18:38:05 alright 18:38:23 by that estimate the Burlesque documentation will span 254 pages 18:39:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:39:14 b_jonas: oops 18:39:25 hm 18:39:42 nickserv agrees 18:49:22 <\oren\> hippavilion[1]! 18:51:29 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Latèr). 18:54:59 -!- mroman has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 19:13:07 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:18:20 -!- variable has joined. 19:30:01 Heeo\ren\ 19:30:43 He\\oren\ looks better, actually 19:32:49 why is he always backslashed? 19:33:54 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:33:58 quintopia: to look different from the other two o-guys who are frequently here 19:34:09 i thought as much 19:34:24 but it is awfully channel-centric 19:34:37 like #esoteric is actually important or something 19:35:37 quintopia: indeed, I generally don't choose nicknames for just one channel, and when I do, I rather log in with a separate connection for just that channel, temporarily, rather than change my main nick 19:36:52 b_jonas: Who's the other o-? 19:37:18 oerjan is one, but who's the third? 19:37:33 I'm not sure, maybe oerjan is the only one, plus the olist 19:41:00 b_jonas: olsner! That's the other one 19:42:14 http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3919 19:57:03 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 20:03:36 [wiki] [[Poop]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45167&oldid=39419 * 93.198.139.110 * (+502) Added "poopOut" 20:05:20 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: [). 20:11:36 -!- ^v has joined. 20:13:45 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 20:21:20 -!- variable has quit (Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero). 20:21:54 -!- variable has joined. 20:26:17 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:43:31 hppavilion[1]: don't forget okplopol 20:43:37 *oklopoop 20:48:52 I call them just "ok-star", it's easier that way. 20:54:02 -!- hjulle has joined. 21:03:54 -!- mauris_ has joined. 21:06:24 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:06:50 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 21:08:35 -!- JesseH has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:09:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 21:10:05 -!- hjulle has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:15:34 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:17:39 -!- mauris_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:19:52 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 21:30:53 -!- cnr has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:31:00 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 21:31:18 -!- conehead has joined. 21:42:30 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 21:45:51 -!- TieSoul has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:50:57 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:52:15 My font now supports the Germanic alphabet (minus e with umlaut, which someone says is used but is not listed on Wiki, as well as a capital sharp S because of rare usage) and the Norwegian is in progress 21:52:38 -!- mauris has joined. 21:54:29 hppavilion[1]: what font? where? 21:54:45 b_jonas: The one for WalrusOS, which is the first WalrusOS 21:54:52 *the first EsOS 21:55:02 (By far not the first WalrusOS) 21:55:05 um… sure? and? 21:55:13 b_jonas: And what? 21:55:15 where can I see a sample for this font? 21:56:22 b_jonas: I have an imgur post somewhere that has an old version that supported I think the full english alphabet, at least lowercase 21:56:36 Would you like to see that, or should I take a new screenshot and upload it for you? 21:57:06 probably a new screenshot 21:57:23 (and I should make samples for my font too) 21:57:25 (OR you could download the software; It's not a font you can use normally, you need to use the custom renderer. I thought it'd be more fun and easier for me that way) 21:57:33 OK. Screenshotting 21:59:13 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 22:00:14 b_jonas: http://i.imgur.com/VqGxJfz.png 22:01:51 hppavilion[1]: thanks 22:02:51 You're welcome 22:03:15 hppavilion[1]: is this a monospaced font? is it scalable? how is it described? I mean the way TTF fonts are glyph outlines made of quadratic Bézier curves plus some hinting, and kerning tables. 22:03:45 b_jonas: It's described in a command prompt-like vector language encoded into JSON. It's vector. 22:03:58 It is monospace, though some characters are twice as wide as the standard 22:03:58 I see 22:04:20 Normal characters are 14*28; lowercase only takes up half height. 22:04:33 it looks a bit strange, but some of that might be deliberate 22:04:41 (I realized a bit after finishing the lowercase english alphabet I should've done 16*32) 22:04:49 b_jonas: What looks strange? 22:05:01 I mean, it's for the EsOS, so that's good, but I'm curious 22:05:45 hppavilion[1]: the letters have a strangely varying height and depth. "s" is too deep and maybe also too high, "m" is less high than others, 22:05:56 Yeah, s I'm going to fix 22:06:22 the "@" is small and has a strange shape, the "&" has a somewhat strange shape, 22:06:27 The m is actually the same height in the code, iirc, it just looks strange because the humps are so thin 22:06:45 The @ had to be small for monospace and the & is INCREDIBLY difficult 22:07:02 (I'm encoding this in a vector language by hand, remember) 22:07:12 the "6" doesn't look high enough, the "5" has a shape that I don't really like, namely where the vertical part and the arc meets it goes too low, and as a result the arc is too closed and too small. 22:07:20 I noticed that on the 6 and the 5 22:07:40 It's good enough. I mean, it's legible at least xD 22:07:48 hppavilion[1]: the "@" could still be taller, even in monospaced, and the part where the small a meets the curvy part looks wrong 22:07:53 Right, right 22:08:34 It's as close as I plan to make it for now; I'm having a friend make a good font for actual printing in the OS 22:08:42 This is just the font for CLI and such 22:09:05 also, the "æ" looks wrong, it's too wide and looks too much like an "œ" because it uses a one-storeyed "a" instead of a two-storeyed one, 22:09:25 and the "Æ" also looks too wide to me, 22:09:44 but as you are probably reading more Norwegian than me, you might know better how those should look. 22:10:10 also the "^" is placed somewhat low, though that could be deliberate 22:10:41 and the "'" is a bit small 22:10:49 the "\"" is a bit small too 22:11:03 but in general, it does look nice and somewhat readable 22:11:18 oh, and the "W" is too narrow, so perhaps you could make the sides more vertical 22:11:39 b_jonas: The ae and AE are both too wide 22:11:48 I made them doublespace so they're legible 22:12:27 oh I see! 22:12:31 double side 22:12:37 now that's strange 22:12:44 why would you do that in a font that's otherwise monospaced? 22:13:01 b_jonas: Legibility; the command prompt is english, so it won't particluarly matter 22:13:11 Also, characters like that are never used in ASCII art 22:13:19 So there's no real reason to squish them 22:13:25 ok 22:13:43 and you have a renderer (terminal) that handles a grid of characters but allows double-width? 22:13:45 And if I made ae use a double-story a it would look bad against the a (which is single-story) 22:13:55 Basically 22:14:00 Though now that I think about it 22:14:05 That won't look right 22:14:20 Of course, I could make a AND ae double-story 22:15:23 But double-story a is hard in my current vector format 22:15:49 but wait 22:15:54 something seems wrong 22:16:11 (I only have "line", "circle", "ellipse", "arc", and "ellarc", plus a special-purpose command for the squares on line 6) 22:16:12 it looks as if the "Æ" is narrower than two character cells, 22:16:16 from the characters after 22:16:25 b_jonas: It isn't, I assure you 22:16:32 The PROBLEM is the kerning 22:16:40 <\oren\> if it's an eso-os there shouldn't be a problem making the widths of characters nonstandard 22:16:51 There's a 5-pixel (or maybe 10-pixel) space between characters 22:17:12 So really, doublespace should be 33 instead of 28 22:17:18 hppavilion[1]: oh, so that's the problem 22:17:25 then they're not really double width 22:17:29 they won't form a grid 22:17:30 I'll fix it later 22:17:38 They will not, not until I fix that 22:17:51 hppavilion[1]: also, I think the "7" doesn't reach the floor 22:18:14 b_jonas: It does. It might just be pixels lost at this resolution in rendering 22:18:25 It definitely goes down to y=0 conceptually 22:18:53 <\oren\> really? huh. 22:18:55 hppavilion[1]: ok 22:19:39 I have the Germanic and Norwegian alphabets. What characters should I do next? 22:19:45 hppavilion[1]: and the same applies to the right leg of "A" ? 22:19:48 (Combining diacritics aren't working) 22:19:49 hppavilion[1]: you should do the "}" 22:19:56 did we already have the "font of wisdom" in our topic? 22:20:18 hppavilion[1]: also the "ø" and the "å" 22:20:21 b_jonas: I SHOULD, but I'm putting that one off because { was a huge pain in the ass 22:20:31 b_jonas: Already finished those after screenshotting 22:20:40 Ah, "The font of all knowledge" ... close enough. 22:20:44 <\oren\> can't you adapt the code for the { reversing it? 22:20:47 hppavilion[1]: even if "{" was a huge pain, can't you just mirror it and shift it properly for "}" ? 22:21:23 b_jonas: Yes, but I would have to do math in my head, and I don't have an automirror program yet (though I could certainly write one) 22:21:38 hppavilion[1]: oh, there's more pixel inaccuracy problems: the "P" has a gap 22:21:56 b_jonas: How closely are you analyzing the font!? 22:22:04 I'll fix that if I can see it on my end 22:22:06 hppavilion[1]: add a mirror capability. it will be useful for sprites in the game anyway 22:22:17 Sprites in what game? 22:22:26 <\oren\> vector graphics are a pain, that's why my font is dont using pixels 22:22:33 hppavilion[1]: analyzing => (a) #esoteric , (b) I did it with zzo too 22:22:35 Yep. P certainly has a gap 22:22:46 s/zzo/oren/ 22:23:10 hppavilion[1]: also, I think maybe you should slant the "/" and "\" more, and perhaps add a gap into "|" so it's more distinct 22:23:37 b_jonas: I do not like the gapped | 22:23:39 I mean, you already have a "0" with a dot in the middle, so a "|" with a gap wouldn't look mismatched 22:23:45 ok 22:23:59 I actually was thinking about the 0 with a dot when I was making it 22:24:07 "Should I used the dotted or slashed 0?" 22:24:08 hppavilion[1]: is it deliberate that the "." and the ":" are shifted to the left so much? 22:24:08 "..." 22:24:15 "What an incredibly boring issue" 22:24:15 <\oren\> isn't there a separate uncidoe charatcer for gapped |? 22:24:18 hppavilion[1]: and definitely make the "'" and "\"" bigger 22:24:36 b_jonas: I put them in the middle because it felt right at the time 22:24:38 \oren\: yes there is, it's in iso-8859-1, ¦ 22:24:47 -!- Patashu has joined. 22:24:48 hppavilion[1]: they're not in the middle 22:24:49 Cool 22:24:59 They're close. 22:25:14 the "." and the ":" are very close to the left edge 22:25:18 they're definitely not in the middel 22:25:32 b_jonas: So they aren't shifted to the right? 22:25:38 <\oren\> oh, i see, the . is in the middle of the character, but there is a gap between characters 22:25:39 Could've sworn they were... 22:25:46 Right, right 22:25:57 hppavilion[1]: the ":" reaches more to the left than the left vertical side of the "P" 22:28:18 hppavilion[1]: oh, and check the "-" and the "=" and the ":" to verify they're not too high when they're among lower-case letters 22:28:57 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 22:28:59 b_jonas: Should I just make "/" and "\\" span the corners? 22:29:01 hppavilion[1]: and maybe lower the bar of the "A" but that's not such a big problem 22:29:23 hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure, the "/" and "\\" vary a lot between fonts, it's a matter of style 22:29:33 Ah 22:29:36 so mostly what works for you 22:29:39 they vary in height too 22:29:46 Maybe I should make / and \ have a gap for the eso factor, but not | xD 22:30:01 uh... the "\" can have a gap, but the "/" shouldn't 22:30:28 But that would be weird, wouldn't it? xD 22:30:44 there's "÷" and "∕" and "⟌" when you want strange slashes 22:30:50 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:30:59 What's the third one? 22:31:05 `unidecode ⟌ 22:31:18 [U+27CC LONG DIVISION] 22:31:23 Ah 22:31:23 that stuff crazy Americans use for "teaching" long division in elementary school 22:31:34 Oh right. That actually worked for me 22:31:45 I liked long division; I found it fun 22:31:54 It was an early manifestation of my appreciation for algorithms 22:32:35 -!- hppavilion[2] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 22:32:44 There we go 22:32:49 I feel better now 22:33:18 good luck with this font, and the rest 22:33:23 OK 22:34:28 (That was effectively conversation termination, correct?) 22:35:19 not really, I'm still here for a bit, but I don't have any more comment on the font for now 22:35:51 so yes, conversation termination, but not goodbye 22:36:02 if there's such a thing 22:36:32 OK 22:36:58 Yeah, I'm definitely raising the ^ 22:38:52 I mean, oren's font has lots of characters, so I could criticize stuff like the appearance of the letters with caron and the comma under 22:39:46 that reminds me, 22:40:18 \oren\: are you planning to go through the first two grades of kyōiku kanji and add them all? 22:41:33 <\oren\> eventually 22:41:37 ok 22:41:57 do the vertical long vowel sign and those strange repeat marks first :-) 22:42:15 <\oren\> k 22:43:30 meanwhile, hurray for Saturday! 22:43:35 (not for long anymore) 22:43:42 enjoy it while it lasts if you're in such a timezone 22:43:59 <\oren\> it's only 5:45 in canada 22:44:14 <\oren\> er, in Toronto, anyway. 22:44:35 <\oren\> so for like 8 million canadians anyway 22:46:12 sure, and already Sunday for a billion Asians 22:50:50 TIME WARP 22:50:58 It's been very fireworksy hereabouts. 22:52:07 <\oren\> wait, isn't ︱ the vertical long vowel sign? 22:52:16 <\oren\> `unidecode ︱ 22:52:17 [U+FE31 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL EM DASH] 22:52:21 <\oren\> oh 22:54:24 -!- shikhin has joined. 23:15:28 http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3871 23:19:31 -!- mauris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:20:14 -!- mauris has joined. 23:23:20 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:30:05 Helloerjan 23:31:52 hppavilion[1]: I am not the other one, oerjan is 23:32:11 olsner: Is that a joke? 23:32:28 It /must/ be 23:33:11 nope 23:34:36 (oklopol is probably the original o) 23:35:13 oh, and actually oerjan starts with an ø, so not even an o 23:35:17 You're the "other one" from MY POV, because oerjan is on more often than you are when I'm on. 23:35:26 But his screen name is oerjan. 23:35:52 that's just a typographical workaround 23:36:23 Doesn't IRC /support/ unicode now? 23:36:42 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:42:21 hppavilhion 23:42:57 hppavilion[1]: not in nicks 23:43:10 Ah 23:43:27 -!- bb010g has joined. 23:43:34 also, i've had this nick for decades, so i'm not going to stop using it. i just used it to register on github... 23:44:16 admittedly i'm using Ørjan in at least one place (yafgc comment sections) 23:44:20 oerjan is easier to type than ørjan anyway 23:44:32 and my full name on stackoverflow 23:45:16 i found a flaw in the new Data.Constraint.Forall construction too :( but i think it's repairable. 23:49:00 Øjvind. 23:50:30 There was an Øjvind (or maybe an Öjvind; you see both) as the name of a fictitious person in a math assignment. 23:51:21 It was probably Öjvind, because they were the last in something or another (I've forgotten the plot), and Ö comes in last in the Finnish alphabet; Ø we don't have. 23:51:36 Ö KAY 23:53:12 Seen at the office: https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAX2xhYVpha0w2QUk 23:53:19 Regarding the topic, is there a left channel? 23:53:32 Or are we monophonic 23:54:09 The data model for my default shell in WalrusOS allows me to define commands like DROP and DUP 23:54:11 The only channel in a monophonic thing is more commonly the left rather than the right channel, but who knows. 23:54:15 For the deques 23:55:16 DROP is SAVE POP RETRIEVE and DUP is SAVE POP PUSH PUSH RETRIEVE 23:55:42 DUP could, in theory, have an "r" flag that tells it how many times to dup if I were to add FOR loops 23:55:55 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 23:55:58 Taneb: if you remove the right channel, only the wrong ones are left 23:56:46 -!- copumpkin has joined. 23:57:54 If you subtract the left and right channels, sometimes all the vocals are gone. 23:58:15 [wiki] [[DStack]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45168&oldid=45166 * -Dark-Phantom- * (+547) My first quine 23:59:42 <\oren\> fizzie: yeah, that sometimes happens with broken headphones