< 1445212806 778280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose it is possible that j. edgar had more influence _outside_ america. < 1445212810 753864 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i can try! < 1445212879 617367 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sigh*. I've just potentially fixed a massive plague threatening our people and no one can hear me. Woe is me. < 1445212881 693429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm actually half serious about that idea. <-- hm, i've idly thought that at times < 1445212907 821951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Thought about that iea or thought that exact sentence? < 1445212911 753253 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idea < 1445212919 442716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that idea < 1445212920 479599 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Our people" xD) < 1445212929 67265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well why not try implementing it? < 1445212936 520072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, ok, where the fuck is derek smart from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJjOGaIRaw < 1445212957 951759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i've also been thinking that it doesn't help that we've had brainfuck featured for over a year (is it over two years, now?) < 1445213009 900552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. I wasn't around two years ago. I just became active on IRC last summer. < 1445213020 925189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps that's the source of all the derivatives. < 1445213033 273065 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd stumbled across the site before a few times though; it almost seems it was calling to me. < 1445213044 290459 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like the word "Utopia" keeps popping up in my life and it's creepy < 1445213055 558043 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mostly american, but with a hint of something else < 1445213093 288989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :any guess as to the something else? < 1445213108 238509 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that he's from south florida, i'm going to guess cuban spanish < 1445213112 641755 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a friend who made an anime called "Utopia". Another unrelated friend who started making a gaming company called "UtopiaGaming". I was walking home one day and I saw a license plate that said "Utopia" on it. I'm beginning to get freaked out.) < 1445213144 208418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: welcome to the channel of synchronicity hth < 1445213153 871501 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1445213167 579431 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synchronicity? What does that mean in this context? < 1445213232 672044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky the same thing it means in every context < 1445213232 891347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zort! < 1445213236 791449 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@wn-res-nat-129-97-125-247.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445213275 410926 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually heard the word "Synchronicity" and can't derive a valid meaning in that sentence from its greko-latin roots < 1445213292 998071 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Was that a Pinky and the Brain reference?) < 1445213314 60768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a term defined as basically the thing you've been experiencing < 1445213360 426622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when things seem connected despite there being no plausible physical cause < 1445213398 821221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky the same thing we do every night, pinky < 1445213399 3884 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think so Brain, but what if we stick to the seat covers? < 1445213456 511652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is probably it. Maybe the word "Utopia" is just more popular than I realize < 1445213460 595546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and too often to be a coincidence < 1445213482 494474 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: could also be influenced by haitian creole since we have a large haitian population here as well. hard to tell, since he has very little trace of whatever it is < 1445213599 156342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445213791 893928 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What command should BF⁂ use to call the function referenced by the value of the current cell? < 1445213806 295951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What character, that is) < 1445213810 214854 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! perhaps? < 1445213848 677196 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to avoid using characters that match /[a-zA-Z0-9]/ < 1445213864 92699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the purposes of brainfuckier appearence < 1445213908 248170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you have functions you've already given up on that. < 1445214034 532543 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's actually very strange system, possibly similar to omnifuck (or maybe I just misunderstood omnifuck) < 1445214111 656127 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You define a function with `={code}`, which takes the value in the current cell, interprets it as an integer, and maps that integer to the code between the {}s. Then to call it, you set the current cell to the correct key and use a certain command < 1445214140 662501 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of a 0-argument procedure than a function < 1445214143 373456 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But close enough < 1445214454 914116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck⁂14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44796&oldid=44752 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+282) 10Fucntion Commands started (unfinished) < 1445214465 342368 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see an esolang where all lines are of this form: < 1445214495 242903 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :line = NAME, SPECIALCHAR, NAME, ";"; < 1445214546 546485 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NAME is /[a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_]*/ and SPECIALCHAR is /[^;]/, evaluated after NAME) < 1445214555 974803 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All commands should be logical. < 1445214567 713488 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go start on that < 1445214597 964164 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There would be a few special built-in names.) < 1445214750 614027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it'd be a bit more complicated than that, but... < 1445214769 482796 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call the language? < 1445214839 942036 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps an even more simple language of the form line = SPECIALCHAR, NAME ";"; < 1445216460 711826 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Got a lexer/parser/AST working. Now I just need an executer < 1445216524 316003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three types of instructions: Prefix, postfix, and infix < 1445216557 365617 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'll add one more type: Nofix < 1445216979 451861 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how about Padfix? One variable, two sides < 1445217126 19977 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in general, given F is one or more fixed tokens and _ is a subexpression, we have F_ (prefix), _F (postfix), _F_ (infix), F ("nofix" or atomic token), F_F ("padfix" or parentheses-like), _F_F (subscription- or indexing-like), F_F_ (prefixed indexing-like) and so on < 1445217170 123662 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also generalized infix like _(F_)* (examples include Python's comparison operators) < 1445217194 841373 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good one on the indexers. < 1445217197 106813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wontfix < 1445217226 627082 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :padfix might be a problem though; I don't know how to make it line up with my rule that every operator should have a meaning in any context < 1445217240 167056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with the indexing-like ones. < 1445217242 524190 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the hotfix < 1445217295 478407 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should I just make it so that in padfix notation, both operators must be the same? < 1445217306 225772 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a weird type of language where you can't nest instructions < 1445217319 412717 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~s/instructions/expressions/ < 1445217352 659866 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't love that, because then you can't do x[y]; < 1445217371 880982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's better than having to define exponentially more operators for each combination < 1445217432 910318 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANOTHER IDEA: language where all code must be an arithmetic expression < 1445217437 836175 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harder to parse, but fun < 1445217652 672889 :Carl_Miller!~Carl_Mill@unaffiliated/carl-miller/x-4159925 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445217671 703825 :Carl_Miller!~Carl_Mill@unaffiliated/carl-miller/x-4159925 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1445217891 508070 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I recognize that guy. < 1445217937 266828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he just showed up in both the channels i'm in < 1445217943 736310 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I do "Backreferences" in BNF? < 1445217951 761287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1445217957 74435 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or EBNF (though I'm told that they're equivalent) < 1445217964 686069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not context-free < 1445217979 848037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1445217985 237672 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it was < 1445217990 714153 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suspected it wasn't < 1445218008 655280 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! I made a language that surpasses context-freeness! < 1445218019 481550 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that's a good thing, at least in small doses! < 1445218033 811969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1445218039 183510 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike Is it true that you are System Eight? < 1445218039 366250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1445218055 677558 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carl_Miller is my fault, by the way. < 1445218137 786412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is still around for /msg, but I'm not sure lambdabot messages will get very far. < 1445218211 403312 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that perl isn't context sensitive, if backreferences work that way. < 1445218227 590226 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to design a somewhat context-sensitive dialect of EBNF to describe my language xD < 1445218312 458068 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1445218394 429187 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445218469 558847 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1445218598 482169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: context-sensitive can do backreferences. but perl parsing is TC. < 1445218625 685686 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course it is xD. Why wouldn't it be? < 1445218652 285313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have been sane instead hth < 1445218686 68988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :context-sensitive is basically equivalent to "can be parsed with linear memory" < 1445218740 446843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. O(n) < 1445218776 371062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, linear memory isn't linear in the sense that you can only move things around in memory, rather than delete or duplicate? < 1445218816 517230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well no but that may very well also be equivalent in this case < 1445218855 752483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no promises, though < 1445218938 894592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not quite sure how this sort of linear memory would work, though i'd be interested in finding out twh < 1445219163 142424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1445219204 70270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the whole machine isn't reversible, you can simulate an ordinary memory by doubling the memory and using 01 and 10 to encode bits < 1445219254 508968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wasn't there some kind of RAM or the like that made sure to balance off and on bits internally < 1445219267 387283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for electronics reasons < 1445220027 82137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i'm not the only person to have started out programming by doing BASIC by hand http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/3431.html < 1445220411 987443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's what I have so far for Unilang: https://github.com/ZodiacWorkingGroup/UniLang < 1445220527 300176 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1445220782 760386 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1445221720 521366 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA 凝 <- how the heck am i supposed to draw that? < 1445221759 865606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://www.visualmandarin.com/tools/chinese-stroke-order/8657 hth < 1445221798 308683 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :凝凝that actually helps < 1445221812 249338 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shatchaf < 1445221813 985333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shatchaf. Thatchaf. < 1445221824 826262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1445221837 791813 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shakhaf < 1445221839 166018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shakhaf. Thakhaf. < 1445221872 11963 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :better? < 1445221889 696533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the previous one hilighted me < 1445221930 656123 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? it did? bazzar < 1445221957 396314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I match on /chaf\b/ < 1445222066 609701 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks シャッハフ < 1445222070 281352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, シャッハフ. Tャッハフ. < 1445222079 217148 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that did not work < 1445222102 912503 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445222107 113176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it used to work even worse < 1445222150 693189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's standard behavior when you have no vowels hth < 1445222173 31699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hebrew < 1445222173 905634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hebrew. Thebrew. < 1445222178 568055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work hth < 1445222230 245670 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks אבגדהו < 1445222231 57070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, אבגדהו. Tבגדהו. < 1445222308 418725 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shchf! < 1445222318 537922 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently א isn't a vowel < 1445222319 613185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq_ < 1445222374 892816 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait we had a discussion about that, where א actually wasn't < 1445222399 448298 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks αβγδεζ < 1445222400 354097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, αβγδεζ. Tβγδεζ. < 1445222624 681790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Hebrew alphabets do not include vowels? < 1445222694 302251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: They have a system of vowel marking, but it's only in common use on the Torah. < 1445222745 76586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more than that < 1445222764 666962 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the context I know of. < 1445222779 851107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not from Israel, or even Jewish, so whaddo I know? :) < 1445222828 677362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, children's books will have vowel marks, for instance. and in some contexts unfamiliar words and so on < 1445222835 101345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some letters do serve as vowels some of the time < 1445222848 115983 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. So broadly similar to furigana in Japanese. < 1445222929 256450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be a good comparison. I'm not sure which contexts furigana is used in, though. < 1445222979 598519 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For teaching, for works aimed at children/new learners, and for obscure kanji < 1445222999 566977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://katiewr.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/the-joy-of-reading-without-vowels/ makes that comparison. < 1445223087 875224 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall reading of some language where all the inflections are done by changing the vowels. Can't remember what it is though < 1445223090 737820 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also used in certain genres to provide a novel reading for some kanji. < 1445223108 505490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most commonly something along the lines of putting kanji that explain a term in Japanese, with an English reading. < 1445223156 793079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Could be Hebrew. < 1445223171 405003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other Semitic language. < 1445223213 61620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not really related < 1445223218 84514 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but russian pluralization is bizarre < 1445223311 697176 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445223318 789673 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a numeral, the noun is singular if the number ends in one (including 21, 31, etc.), *genitive* singular if it ends in 2, 3, or 4, or genitive plural if it ends in 11, 12, 13, 14, or isn't covered by the other ones < 1445223333 363265 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some nouns also do this irregularly < 1445223377 397209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the first and second cases don't cover things that end in 11, 12, 13, 14? < 1445224500 434512 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1445224559 519511 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how about a programming language where the entire program is a single, massive multi-typed binary-operator-only expression? < 1445224641 691441 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in the realm where "imperative" and "declarative" aren't even defined (because the expression is evaluated outwards, but it's really just a declared expression) < 1445224696 406124 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how control flow would work, though < 1445224726 986651 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445224849 409806 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my browser has a tengwar script (conscript unicode registry, not proposed standard) font installed < 1445224852 469960 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1445225125 32649 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1445225144 509590 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1445225153 978716 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :people and language make no sens < 1445225155 496006 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sense < 1445225193 31586 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, if someone asks you whether you know about something, the more emphatically you say no, the more interested you are taken to be < 1445225370 670328 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :tengwar is awesome < 1445225470 239867 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1445225543 378460 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you'd need to have functions... < 1445225584 199164 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And attributes, preferably < 1445225600 360290 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that could be interpreted as an operator < 1445225631 462722 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1445225676 934958 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :import('sys').stdout <- "Hello, world!" < 1445225794 668286 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445225827 940505 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps unary operators would work instead of functions < 1445226131 152745 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /|\ < 1445226133 347352 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1445226135 880265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1445226138 620686 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1445226843 833345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen kanji with an English reading once in one manga book < 1445227232 174304 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could argue that any language is that < 1445227240 430685 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take the AST and make it binary < 1445227244 508200 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: One could. < 1445227612 459871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I just learned that Tarsiers are real. I feel dumb. < 1445227680 829328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Usually they don't shoot lasers, though. < 1445227748 807102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How about a quick spot of the Prismata? < 1445227768 914084 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, one day when I don't totally suck at Prismata < 1445227790 137805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not great at it either. I usually lose to the AI these days. < 1445227809 281078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway if you don't play you're not likely to improve. < 1445227821 811272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should at least do the campaign though < 1445227821 988575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://slbkbs.org/kj-volunteers.txt < 1445227827 81610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do the campaign. < 1445227830 28473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I did a bit of it. < 1445228706 805348 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1445228730 85581 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tarsiers are real, eh? < 1445228846 626606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: do you also play prismata? < 1445228945 931282 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played it. < 1445228950 213302 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Prismata username is Wg. < 1445228973 497047 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, it was last I checked. < 1445229032 135839 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. I'm talking to an idiot who I told I was going to make a social network centred around gaming and we could discuss terms with him, then he ended up deciding to make his own. Using Xenforo. I should never of told him about that idea. < 1445229087 429463 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445229118 321659 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445229139 156135 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445229143 386937 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1445229428 377724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah a learning experience < 1445229442 417222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind, remains to be seen. < 1445229680 601470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea of the Backtracking INTERCAL variant where the choicepoint stack is a register that can study and can be ignored, reinstated, stashed, retrieved, enslaved, etc and can also be used with NEXT and COME FROM commands. < 1445229749 502509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: we should play a spot < 1445229763 941076 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1445229767 913046 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this upcoming weekend. < 1445229769 641152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you online? < 1445229771 198174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1445230433 941605 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445231039 447473 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445231603 528735 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRpepYYUAAIkV07.jpg < 1445231607 476612 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us discuss the implications of this < 1445231965 781262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo early girl genius < 1445232014 10262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: a clear case of fibonaccitis < 1445232142 258964 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :後新鉛筆曜果物零傲僅克刷券傷債傾像僕充冒 < 1445232142 493630 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :冠冥冶凍僚儀償優凄准刹刺刻則削剖卍卐卑卒 < 1445232143 259805 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :卓卜召呈命問囲困学尺尻尼局屋曲書曹爪片牙 < 1445232534 927995 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combinatory Markup Language is still a neat idea < 1445232589 623782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Markup Λanguage14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44797&oldid=44784 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+4) 10Fixed some formatting, added "the" < 1445232682 473797 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445232697 430898 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it's no coincidence that the fibonacci spiral and tiling touch edges of objects in the image. This has far reaching implications about the universe and astrology. < 1445232739 615553 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1445232849 367412 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the image was selected at random < 1445232922 899793 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you took 1000 images and looked for one that fit the spiral best, then you could produce many crazy coincedences < 1445233403 288539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is no important implication of such a thing. < 1445233472 37498 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.111.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445233759 949645 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honeys bee are actually higher dimensional beings < 1445233767 170543 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that communicate through entanglement and quantum coherence < 1445233793 85962 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not disappear they are simply shifting into dimensions out of our plane of existence. < 1445233824 216087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, that doesn't make much sense < 1445233994 793693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, some things are not known about higher physical dimensions (such as which mathematical models of higher dimensions match the physical model), so it isn't really known. Still, what you specify doesn't seem very meanful or sensible. < 1445234144 538117 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know of a TC model of computation that doesn't have an esolang yet? < 1445234153 313421 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just off the top of their heads < 1445234392 75656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I don't know < 1445234904 313236 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Post's model of computation? < 1445234908 832558 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a Post-Turing machine? < 1445235029 909514 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wang B-Machine? < 1445235391 942120 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I'm going for more declarative things, like Semi-Thue Grammars (the things that drive Thue) < 1445235746 549715 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that a language need not be TC to be useful... < 1445235772 239204 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And every Formal Grammar can be converted to a push-down automaton fairly easily... < 1445235847 654936 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/useful/eso. < 1445235855 189960 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/./\// < 1445235891 213994 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.111.166 QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference < 1445238258 694972 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a lot of time for esolang design, but one idea I've taken interest in and would like to explore further is languages that essentially act as different models of computation on the same source input < 1445238273 328886 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a set of rules that determines when context switches from one language to another. < 1445238337 475356 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to make the context switching rules as non-uniform as possible, with each language having its own entering/exiting semantics. < 1445238402 697366 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1445238507 218254 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the idea I have floating around in my head right now currently has 3 different languages, but will likely have several more. as well as a mediator that determines what context the program starts in, and how the program terminates. < 1445238567 769443 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is a simple 2D language that switches to another language context when it encounters specific symbols, and otherwise has some basic instructions for moving around. < 1445238588 297372 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another language takes the format of haikus, somewhat like haifu < 1445238614 506613 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think instead of terminating when you lose a balance of Yin Yang you instead terminate if you stay too balanced for too many steps. < 1445238724 532765 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first letter of each line determines the instruction, then the inputs for the instructions are derived from the properties of the "words", like evenness of the lengths of the words and number of vowels vs consonants etc < 1445238803 310106 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no syllable knowledge it's just word-based. lines of 3 words, 5 words, 3 words < 1445238837 535438 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far as long as everything determines their own termination rules it becomes easy to maintain consistency < 1445238861 105235 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm interested in throwing in languages that instead of specifying only how they terminate also specify when they take over execution. < 1445238916 476544 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the idea is to make each of the languages non-turing complete < 1445238939 340779 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to see if it's possible to emulate a turing machine through manipulation of the conditional context switching < 1445239552 149920 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man and then another language could be entirely nothing but exception handling and BASIC-like instructions with no conditionals/looping < 1445239595 888011 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you fall into whenever another language throws an "error", with the starting location of execution being based on which language threw the error < 1445239615 96335 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a massive UML diagram of like 20 different useless exceptions in a hierarchy < 1445239629 819710 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIMEISMONEY language < 1445239658 639843 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's like, the spatially closest exception handling block < 1445239678 653536 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since everything is vaguely 2 dimensional < 1445239699 740003 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haiku language for exmaple remembers the column it started on, and all subsequent lines have to be indented to that level < 1445239712 723919 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it maintains a block-like layout < 1445239902 849800 :kallisti!4b750530@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.117.5.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things get weird as you add on these cross-language semantics < 1445240025 747515 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445240221 731191 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445240262 323588 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1445240270 88434 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi adu < 1445240361 279206 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's new < 1445240376 938308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothin' < 1445240547 129180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1445240852 297192 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445241053 539870 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1445241119 525168 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found out mtv does fandom awards. I am not pleased. < 1445241551 334806 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@rn-nat-129-97-131-0.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1445241874 940616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445242593 544249 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1445242806 421674 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1445243067 575658 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445244089 613768 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445244296 589619 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445244359 573872 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445245142 348205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is the 12th anniversary of death of Ken Iverson. < 1445245817 371828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1445245887 432959 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445245926 200593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi. I had a crazy idea about a M:tG card last night. you might have seen it in the channel logs. < 1445245981 38739 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, tonight's magic night < 1445246000 175143 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1445246005 780391 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1445246019 722064 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :At my university, it is < 1445246027 119008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have a good deck built < 1445246028 777338 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also computer science paper reading group night < 1445246037 67484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: me neither, I generally borrow one < 1445246045 172520 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to never spend actual money on magic < 1445246062 748440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? it's great? < 1445246071 367346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what better to spend money on than the hobbies that make me happy? < 1445246096 939329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I can do it for essentially free, with some constraints < 1445246118 847320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only had to pay a few cents on the mountaintop boatmaker once, and I can look at it any time and smile at it. < 1445246133 947816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lots of other nice cards. < 1445246228 357304 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lecturer just said "Who else can't spell so they went into mathematics" after slowly writing complementary on the board < 1445246459 639903 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445246464 9494 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnärd < 1445247128 410233 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445248873 19820 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445249284 209056 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/kanaka/mal < 1445249295 934071 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you guys think about it? < 1445249470 567395 :TieSleep!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1445249703 509524 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think most of you already know it) < 1445249808 203360 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: is that just a lisp implemented in 40 languages? < 1445249873 127639 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes but it's more of a learning path < 1445251231 92384 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445251317 586264 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:fc35:f8bf:4b6f:6169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445251317 801546 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:fc35:f8bf:4b6f:6169 QUIT :Changing host < 1445251317 801616 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445251943 515491 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445252066 600217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445253670 643136 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445253864 264043 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445253886 583959 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445254263 253177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1445254263 632335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191100Z 23006KT 15SM FEW240 M04/M07 A3041 RMK CI1 CI TR SLP298 < 1445254282 112376 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M04. fungot that, I'm outta here. < 1445254282 289281 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 100 for x=1 to 10) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 < 1445254304 815890 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: for x = -4°C to fungot knows what. < 1445254304 992890 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it sets up a sprite is a negative edge sensitive input which can occur in areas that are beside the program again and hit return or shift+return, and passing arguments and results to and read like ordinary memory locations used to set the indirect address < 1445254337 947202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HYPERBOREAL CHICKEN < 1445254340 625639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That all seems so complicated. Isn't there a point-and-click tool to do this? < 1445254340 802737 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: register 25 ( 19) is located higher in memory. < 1445255216 983637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1445255217 197529 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1445255374 248555 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445256542 623653 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445256735 565698 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445257823 383126 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1445258011 28256 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that http://esolangs.org/wiki/%3F%3F%3F is categorized correctly < 1445258017 652420 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not quite brainfuck-equivalent < 1445258023 949620 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445258033 576441 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loop semantics are different < 1445258789 978296 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445259625 294803 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445260835 829849 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445260838 522244 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1445261747 608374 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445261989 624444 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445262010 918756 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1445263244 611371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* Is this code valid C++? Gcc claims it's not, clang claims it is. */ union s { int x; const float y; } t; < 1445263269 80863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445263343 612955 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445263580 642942 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445263760 639250 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445263902 5755 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Treehugger14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44798&oldid=43112 5* 03B jonas 5* (+35) 10 < 1445263954 105138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07V14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44799&oldid=35262 5* 03B jonas 5* (+35) 10 < 1445264258 110354 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445264288 563379 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 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you http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-10-18.2326.html#d.2015-10-18.2326 < 1445273413 557641 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly thought-provoking to me at least < 1445273418 224831 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445273418 401935 :llue!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1445273418 401990 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445273496 802499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1445273530 592977 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445274284 234877 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445275560 554937 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1445275610 616528 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445275677 227392 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1445276825 627435 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445277701 437912 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445277770 864184 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1445277906 835716 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445277917 631974 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445277948 337173 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1445278083 576009 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445278145 110668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445280699 593118 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1445281006 975863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this declaration (at the top level) valid C++? union s { int x; const float y; } t; < 1445281023 823196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's definitely valid C, unsure about C++ though < 1445281033 28717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked about a very similar union in C a while back < 1445281033 803943 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep running into crazy language features that seem to depend on the compiler. < 1445281054 349623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was unclear whether it was permissible to write to the non-const value and then read the const value or not, though < 1445281059 416150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For this one, it seems gcc thinks it's an error in C++ and clang thinks it's fine, at least in some conditions. < 1445281069 187240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be similar in C++, it could be that the union's legal but you can never legally read from y < 1445281095 200057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? why couldn't you read from y if you can create this union? < 1445281114 991282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you create it with a value in y? < 1445281141 340517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because you're not supposed to read from elements other than the one you most recently assigned < 1445281152 840829 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445281155 252921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually, yes, and then y would be readable until such time as you changed x < 1445281155 429868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gcc complains about it because y is a const member but you don't give an initializer for it, and there's no user-defined constructor to initialize it. That rule makes sense for structs, but not much for a union. < 1445281191 636102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is it possible to multi-inherit a union from two different classes in C++? < 1445281205 903620 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know. I don't think you can inherit from a union at all. < 1445281209 282716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you create it with a value in y? < 1445281240 959775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: union s sy {.y = 5.23}; < 1445281249 436613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that syntax is legal in C++, but it's legal in C < 1445281306 992417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: union s { char x[4]; const float y; } t; still can't be constructed according to gcc, and it doesn't have the problem you mention about not being able to read y < 1445281317 635542 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so this is a different problem that I have < 1445281318 565015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes it does < 1445281326 608221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the only 100% legal way to do type punning is via memcpy < 1445281342 741702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way! < 1445281348 444486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, memcpy is recommended < 1445281356 747500 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but memcpy is also defined as copying unsigned chars < 1445281371 900391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc mentions somewhere that as an extension, it supports type-punning via unions in cases where it's obvious what the programmer meant, IIRC < 1445281380 221089 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I dunno < 1445281387 15790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these rules are ugly and complicated < 1445281396 280434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, union s sy = ...; < 1445281396 583234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know people can't agree about what they mean < 1445281437 355618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but if this is never supposed to work with a union, then maybe that's why you can't have an uninitialized const member in a union < 1445281444 473337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so maybe the two problems are connected < 1445281450 199668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can you write union s sy = {.y = 5.23}; union s sz = {.y = 6.23}; sy = sz; ? < 1445281465 723060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooh, clever < 1445281470 623645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I admit I don't understand how union construction works in C++, nor much of the aliasing rules < 1445281470 800566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1445281511 79427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It compiles in this version of clang, at least. < 1445281553 702934 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in C, probably. and in C++ too, you can do something similar by adding either a default initializer, or a user-defined constructor to the union. < 1445281845 907074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wrote an implementation of unaligned integer load/store with unions, to which schmorp asked why I didn't implement it with malloc instead. I'll have to test both the union solution and the malloc solution because I want to see whether the compilers can optimize them sanely, but I haven't done it yet because it comes out to an ugly combination of 256 cases where I'll have to manually inspect the assembly output, so I'll probably take some shortc < 1445281877 129962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual problem why I need this is a bit complicated and involves a bit more ugliness than just unaligned integer load/store sadly. < 1445283737 686531 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PART :#esoteric < 1445283853 283293 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1445283929 999690 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445285194 273154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, new OOTS < 1445285197 25343 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone go read it! < 1445285306 560832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do you want to be on olist? < 1445285316 132270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:14 whoa whoa whoa, quite the oots < 1445285367 466963 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445285404 509336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what does the olist do exactly? < 1445285430 179496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I read it already, and the olist pings people who are interested in OOTS; it is only meant to be used when a new comic is released < 1445285435 782985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it creates a new oots comic, I think < 1445285438 355501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are on the olist, then you will be included in the ping < 1445285445 261159 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wow < 1445285447 143410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What olsner said. < 1445285450 81202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in oots but not in the olist < 1445285457 422997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't abuse the power, please. < 1445285458 779539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that seems safe enough, I'll try to be on the olist < 1445285468 267689 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add me < 1445285469 719575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apart from a few failed attempts to invoke it in the past) < 1445285474 119245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo b_jonas >> bin/olist < 1445285477 76649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445285485 448061 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1445285500 832576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist < 1445285502 553292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html < 1445285509 565408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/r* < 1445285510 657517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rainbow \ bin/rainwords \ bin/randomanonlog \ bin/randquote \ bin/rawpy \ bin/raw-url \ bin/rec \ bin/relcome \ bin/reload \ bin/repeat \ bin/resume \ bin/rèsumè \ bin/rng \ bin/rnooodl \ bin/roll \ bin/rot0 \ bin/rot13 \ bin/rot256 \ bin/rot26 \ bin/rum \ bin/run \ bin/runc \ bin/runcpp \ bin/rwelcome < 1445285523 734978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/olist | rot13 < 1445285525 950369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ brewna \ Ftrb \ SverSyl \ obvyl \ abeggv \ o_wbanf < 1445285535 210888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the rot13 is to avoid pinging people, apart from possibly shachaf) < 1445285537 940968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1445285672 827396 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445285691 728605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. now Sunset can spend the entire movie trying to figure out why that strange recurring phenomenon in the last panel of OoTS 1009 sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't. and the fan readers will probably figure it out much easier. < 1445285714 546794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there are debates about it on the forum already (and were even before the strip came out) < 1445285721 500139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure < 1445285731 871317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, even I was wondering about it < 1445285771 76025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the new oots < 1445285771 994106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuCIGvsbMA&t=3m57s < 1445285792 479996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about how Magicbane swallows curses and if maybe that's what's protected Roy from falling unconscious from the Harm that's supposed to have almost killed him < 1445285821 173078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:33 I'm not quite sure I see the connection to 0963. < 1445285821 389468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:33 Maybe that means I'm a vampire. < 1445285840 508151 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445285845 430300 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem likely, because there's no visual indication for that, besides that the dwarf just HAPPENS TO touch the sword a lot of times when he makes his touch drain attack < 1445285894 482620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was the Harm supposed to have almost killed him? < 1445285925 876767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it drains so much HP that people on the forum figured he MUST be at 1 HP after Harm, and he got drained twice after that, which would bring him to -9 HP < 1445285963 479840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: two touch drains conveniently take away exactly 10 HP, besides problems that are less urgent right now < 1445285990 294110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's just not following the rules that closely? < 1445285995 696732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Harm is a very powerful spell if someone with a high spell level casts it in dnd3.5 apparently < 1445286028 256476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harm does have a damage cap, though < 1445286036 210802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to not being able to hurt people below 1 < 1445286055 2361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but people figured it still deals too much damage, and Roy can't possibly have enough HP to not go to 1 < 1445286055 415926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's not get into the union-based type punning, it's an unending source of arguments. < 1445286058 973600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people thought it had taken him to 1 because a) it caps at 1, and b) he looked very injured afterwards, so it was reasonable to conclude that the cap had been hit < 1445286073 532795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: union-based type punning, too controversial for #esoteric? :-D < 1445286083 150609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many HP to expect people to have. < 1445286095 404818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a (non-normative) footnote since C99 that makes it clear the committee's intention is to allow it, but there are huge arguments on whether they actually succeeded in doing that, and a good case for saying they didn't. < 1445286095 870292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what level to expect people to be. < 1445286103 859118 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "sed 's/\(.\)/\1\x0f/g'" > bin/noping && chmod +x bin/noping < 1445286106 650570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445286120 848122 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo mauris | noping # hopefully? < 1445286121 776819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris < 1445286126 940473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then people figured that there's a feat that could let Roy still be conscious at -9, but even in that case he'd be slowed down and couldn't take all the actions he seems to take. Because these are crazy DND rules people. < 1445286130 413313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's a thread on the forums in which people are trying to work this out < 1445286133 92986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo shachaf | noping < 1445286133 982330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1445286135 380130 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't work at all. ;-; < 1445286135 557212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ais523 | noping < 1445286136 356653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 < 1445286139 187188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for me < 1445286144 83757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seems to be inconsistent < 1445286144 260886 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, at least. maybe my client is too smart < 1445286155 541836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo shachaf | noping | xxd < 1445286156 445217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 730f 680f 610f 630f 680f 610f 660f 0a s.h.a.c.h.a.f.. < 1445286159 34035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems inefficient. < 1445286160 16296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does \x0f do in IRC? < 1445286173 592991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Footnote 95: "If the member used to read the contents of a union object is not the same as the member last used to store a value in the object, the appropriate part of the object representation of the value is reinterpreted as an object representation in the new type as described in 6.2.6 (a process sometimes called "type punning"). This might be a trap representation." < 1445286178 711632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do it culprits-style. < 1445286182 133283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1445286182 889965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1445286193 633712 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset to default colors, ais523 < 1445286204 170989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1445286205 708347 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reset formatting I think < 1445286207 747064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1445286217 668122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only colors, but also resets bold < 1445286313 801390 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh hey, you were briefly mentioned in my "automata & computability" class today :) < 1445286335 389006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: in which capacity? did it involve Turing machines with 2 states and 3 colors? :-) < 1445286337 884037 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (2,3)-TM and your proof came up as a little "wow" fact < 1445286341 755826 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try every invisible char in the book, then repeat them again just to reset the bold/italics/etc... < 1445286386 820465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't we have a nopingy thing that only added something between the first and second characters (and failed on someone's less picky highlight configuration)? Maybe I imagined that. < 1445286397 448000 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :culprits apparently < 1445286409 252986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1445286412 800363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, printed above. < 1445286427 513484 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1445286449 866538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/culprits | grep summary: | grep x0F < 1445286451 181380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` echo -E \'hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk \'\\\'\'{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}\'\\\'\' | sed "s/.$/\\x0F&/" | xargs\' > bin/culprits && chmod +x bin/culprits \ summary: ` sed -ri \'s,sed "[^"]*",sed "s/.$/\\\\x0F\\&/",\' bin/culprits \ summary: ` sed -i \'s/&[^/]*/\\&\\\\x0F/\' bin < 1445286456 648645 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead NICK :cnr < 1445286492 498108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it seems to have been at the end, not at the start. < 1445286506 219728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the nopingy thing that replaces aeiou with some similar non-ascii characters, but fails to noping nicks without vowels < 1445286511 200994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have hilight on /chaf\b/ < 1445286525 383429 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, and I have highlight on jonas < 1445286526 101236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1445286530 235751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` relcome | noping < 1445286530 942749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus also like four other words < 1445286531 392631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out  < 1445286560 329320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no I DON'T have a highlight on jonas < 1445286563 330620 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only on \bjonas\b < 1445286572 109408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so b_jonas wouldn't ping me < 1445286576 483533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more information, check out this branch. < 1445286584 529689 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have nine other strings I highlight < 1445286603 924837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them don't matter, mind you, because nobody would ever say them < 1445286610 466434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just there for completeness < 1445286689 735838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably worse for people who use lots of alternate nicks. I don't, yet. < 1445286827 588747 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSleep < 1445286915 744879 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.219 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445287126 870763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, he can't grow ears. that wouldn't work in this art style.) < 1445287332 943351 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445287353 758638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no, it can't _heal_ Roy from the energy it drains from an undead creature. that would have the wrong polarty of energy. < 1445287440 465028 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445287616 777374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in OotS 1009, panel 2 shows Roy remove the stopper of the bottle with his teeth. that definitely disproves the crazy idea that Roy is secretly a low-level wizard who has sworn he'd never use magic again after his brother's death. a true wizard would remove the stopper from the bottle using just one hand. you can't just forget habits like that. < 1445287645 654982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get to be a wizard at age 10? < 1445287703 535226 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445287731 740153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably no < 1445287738 173234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that whole theory didn't make sense anyway < 1445288197 333586 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1445288833 660480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday, from the bus, I saw a building that somehow seemed very zeerusty. < 1445288844 921354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://goo.gl/maps/UakPjyKpQb82 this one < 1445288852 824164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The photo doesn't really do it justice. < 1445289002 592056 :Madison_!32a14cec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.161.76.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445289039 122073 :Madison_!32a14cec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.161.76.236 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1445289046 22556 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1445289072 851690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1445289076 722790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Madison_ < 1445289077 871580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madison_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1445289255 728029 :Madison_!32a14cec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.161.76.236 QUIT :Client Quit < 1445289284 787030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1445289303 563809 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-218-244.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445289347 420184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1445289348 435546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1445289356 525583 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1445289360 716382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `welcome < 1445289361 535378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`welcome? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445289400 844453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn `welcome is a weapon of mass destruction. ) < 1445289433 627278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1445289454 32394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we lose so many people to `welcome ;) < 1445289608 820938 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1445290462 282009 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-218-244.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445291017 456825 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445291188 512611 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445291247 976855 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1445292191 738731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1445292201 81611 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445292856 981261 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1445292865 237210 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445292992 725832 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445292996 148222 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445293079 534610 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445293421 331098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: tmux update < 1445293442 92936 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445293481 561776 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I voted! < 1445293827 306597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :voto ergo sum < 1445293941 475436 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-50df7d-171.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445294020 345087 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445294293 736048 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-50df7d-171.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445294876 395220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, roy < 1445294970 779047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is the connection to 0963 twh < 1445295076 391758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, that the demon doesn't understand hum^Wdwarf nature and so didn't see that roy would _know_ the real durkon wouldn't have been thinking that < 1445295157 836547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with connecting two memories < 1445295205 206870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the demon didn't understand why the memories would be connected, for the same reason < 1445295228 648899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps more subtly, the demon doesn't understand the concept of a moral lesson < 1445296390 918609 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1445296407 704594 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-50df7d-171.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445296551 676556 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since we had autowelcome turned on. < 1445296555 157213 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was pretty hilarious. < 1445296565 917980 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp. With no further ado... < 1445296567 959138 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome on < 1445296568 266370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1445296568 641287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autowelcome enabled. < 1445296604 102443 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. Most wonderful. < 1445296804 534572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No way, that's so spammy. < 1445296805 912443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome off < 1445296806 563703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autowelcome disabled. < 1445296873 992518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: hambdabot < 1445296923 645654 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I think we'd better get rid of autowelcome entirely. < 1445296925 957920 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/autowelcome < 1445296928 166428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445296932 807107 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome on < 1445296933 464840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: autowelcome: not found < 1445296936 445632 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good riddance. < 1445296937 561539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's going a bit far < 1445296953 824485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1445296958 218219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1445296965 903447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1445296971 455877 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome status < 1445296972 154732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autowelcome disabled. < 1445296978 354837 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, it's back. < 1445296982 124737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/autowelcome < 1445296983 171073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/autowelcome < 1445297023 217824 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really just the feedback part. autowelcome continues working even if you delete the executable that tells you whether it's turned on or not. < 1445297742 661639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mk and mkx are TG < 1445297840 770588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/dontaskdonttelllist < 1445297841 897931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/dontaskdonttelllist < 1445297880 145001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dontaskdonttelllist | xxd < 1445297881 78843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 646f 6e74 6173 6b64 6f6e 7474 656c 6c6c dontaskdonttelll \ 0000010: 6973 743a 2071 e280 8b75 e280 8b69 e280 ist: q...u...i.. \ 0000020: 8b6e e280 8b74 e280 8b6f e280 8b70 e280 .n...t...o...p.. \ 0000030: 8b69 e280 8b61 e280 8b20 63e2 808b 6fe2 .i...a... c...o. \ 0000040: 808b 70e2 808b 70e2 808b 72e2 808b 6fe2 ..p...p...r...o. \ 00000 < 1445297947 645094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid IE has changed in such a way that i'm sometimes _unable_ to choose utf-8 as the right encoding for a page, like that one :( < 1445297976 663094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nazi-on < 1445297976 840096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi engaged. < 1445297985 209413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: can you correct my speling < 1445297999 184725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! you're going to let me misspel words? < 1445298026 888144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nazi-off < 1445298027 64948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged. < 1445298086 659650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noping < 1445298087 321254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed 's/\(.\)/\1\x0f/g' < 1445298096 819502 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode & < 1445298097 651872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0026 AMPERSAND] < 1445298128 235564 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode &​/ < 1445298129 49192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0026 AMPERSAND] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+002F SOLIDUS] < 1445298133 704251 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1445298142 992717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidus? do they even know us? < 1445298191 196122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/noping//sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g' < 1445298193 374945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/noping < 1445298203 422745 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not obvious to me what dontaskdonttelllist does. < 1445298210 289637 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only one thing to do. < 1445298216 3471 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist tswett < 1445298216 768659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist tswett: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1445298221 234648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | bin/noping | xxd < 1445298221 993784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 7465 e280 8b73 74e2 808b 0a te...st.... < 1445298234 301288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | bin/noping < 1445298235 35509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :te​st​ < 1445298240 746013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work < 1445298251 513161 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`noping tswett < 1445298266 487317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1445298268 937360 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sits and waits patiently. < 1445298282 345553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445298354 248988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/noping//print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g' < 1445298356 55213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/noping < 1445298361 324604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`noping tswett < 1445298362 149028 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ts​we​tt​ < 1445298368 835231 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it worked. < 1445298440 597931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445298445 258027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it every second character, anyone with a 2-character nick has only themselves to blame < 1445298517 109601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spaces?? < 1445298524 483949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with the culprits approach < 1445298527 583676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/noping < 1445298529 266454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan mauris < 1445298634 559172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that certain people's highlighting ignores ^O < 1445298645 73330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including mauris_ iiuc < 1445298664 164225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was weechat that was the issue < 1445298668 496419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris_ is using hexchat < 1445298671 58467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ais523 | noping < 1445298672 98993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai​s5​23​ < 1445298678 521766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still works < 1445298681 858831 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1445298683 667084 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/noping < 1445298685 387822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan mauris < 1445298689 516909 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that pings me < 1445298692 206857 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looks very silly! < 1445298692 477067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we added a zero-width non-breaking space < 1445298701 615936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`noping mauris < 1445298702 321261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ma​ur​is​ < 1445298707 108265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: and that works? < 1445298713 294880 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1445298717 725183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is that a space? < 1445298722 765651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a non-breaking space or something else? < 1445298730 183415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` noping mauris | xxd < 1445298731 114226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 6d61 e280 8b75 72e2 808b 6973 e280 8b0a ma...ur...is.... < 1445298736 142688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1445298739 461620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a non-breaking space, same as HackEgo uses for prefix < 1445298740 438551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just really messes up my terminal. < 1445298753 242124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, there had to be a reason you hated it < 1445298754 259135 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/kQsHs/fb36a60fdd.png < 1445298760 331013 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it looks like fyi. < 1445298783 305629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1445298784 833051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1445298785 610585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do HackEgo's responses that use it automatically also mess it up? < 1445298793 22765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not sure. < 1445298799 526500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel does tend to mess up my terminal more than most. < 1445298801 606537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1445298802 436185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :870) i can only hope that the 55 year old nuclear reactor 2 blocks away from my house is too old to have SCADA < 1445298810 341028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that won't have it < 1445298817 564896 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445298817 848696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But also it only happens on this computer and not on my home computer.) < 1445298829 525727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head quotes < 1445298830 166406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKennethR: he should be < 1445298836 441180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does that mess it up < 1445298846 386672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1445298848 945844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a bit. < 1445298857 381866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nonsense < 1445298858 128902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445298862 884390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1445298868 75630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That also messes it up. < 1445298871 397186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's terrible. < 1445298888 440207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can fix the latter messup by resizing, though. < 1445298977 933181 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprit < 1445298978 730285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1445299069 115323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there's also the drawback that a ZWNS takes 3 bytes < 1445299112 428799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think that may be hard to avoid with anything better than ^O < 1445299169 153311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1445299197 257493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you had a chance to read my thesis yet, btw?