00:22:48 hello! 00:23:31 top of the night to you! 00:23:41 hi oerjan 00:24:02 oerjan: shocking prediction: hel's vote will be in the direction of a tie hth 00:24:10 *GASP* 00:24:28 it _would_ be rather useless to show up otherwise 00:24:41 stories have so much selection bias :'( 00:24:50 my far out prediction obviously failed 00:25:15 now we may wonder what happens with a tie. 00:25:37 given they were an odd number without Hel, it's probably not common. 00:26:10 presumably the twelve gods run into that more frequently 00:26:21 another thought: we haven't seen belkar's body, which means by ancient trope we cannot assume he's dead yet. 00:26:26 shachaf: tru dat 00:27:00 perhaps he shows up in the next comic to get blasted into atoms 00:27:14 or thaums 00:27:41 i guess there are atoms, given redcloak's chemisty knowledge 00:28:34 oots _does_ have pretty explicit narrative causality 00:28:57 so "selection bias" is not unexpected 00:31:08 shachaf: interestingly, they might have been in better shape if they _hadn't_ given veldrina a lift 00:31:34 because the western p. voted yes 00:32:09 that's an astute p. 00:32:38 although narrative causality would probably have messed up any attempt to make her get too late 00:33:15 -!- boily has joined. 00:33:21 @metar CYUL 00:33:21 CYUL 210000Z 15013KT 15SM BKN085 BKN150 28/19 A2983 RMK AC6AC1 SLP100 DENSITY ALT 1700FT 00:33:22 my far out prediction btw was that hel _wanted_ a no result and would swing it that way 00:33:41 because it had a better chance of _total_ disaster 00:34:01 oerjan: how does chemistry work in olistworld anyway twh 00:34:21 shachaf: well you have titanium elementals... 00:34:42 296 refers to an ideal gas 00:34:50 but maybe that's in the same spirit as "nuking from orbit" 00:34:56 presumably there's no orbit in oland? 00:34:58 and chlorine elementals 00:34:59 [wiki] [[Grocery List]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43835&oldid=37037 * Nooodl * (+201) add interpreter 00:35:36 i love implementing boring languages 00:35:41 shachaf: i'm not sure it's established the world is actually flat 00:36:34 in fact wasn't it shown as round in some of the snarl story 00:37:09 that's true 00:37:10 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0275.html 00:37:32 that's true 00:37:36 yay my laptop is on the way 00:37:38 and the world within the world was also round 00:39:31 actually the comment there about the snarl not grasping the plan could point to destroying the world again maybe being more dangerous if it's got smarter... 00:39:50 * oerjan wonders if that line is parseable by humans 00:40:26 hellørjan. speaking in tongues? harbouring the Spirit of Fungot? 00:40:32 @massages-loud 00:40:33 olsner said 3h 54m 6s ago: ah, the mother modem, that is swedish and hilariously wrong 00:40:50 *actually the comment there, about the snarl not grasping the plan, could mean that destroying the world _again_ could be more dangerous, if it's got smarter... 00:42:55 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:44:16 like the Old Chinese Proverb says, "oic". 00:51:09 http://nic.vodka/ 00:55:47 -!- bb010g has joined. 00:57:26 -!- staffehn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:00:36 izbellora. 01:00:48 there are vodka TLDs now? 01:00:52 apparently 01:01:10 and I always manage to typo your porthello some way or another. sorry. 01:01:39 it's fine boillory 01:11:55 -!- boily has quit (Quit: CROCODILE CHICKEN). 01:12:07 hizabera! 01:13:55 -!- |f`-`|f has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:14:26 -!- |f`-`|f has joined. 01:15:26 -!- Wallacoloo has joined. 01:16:00 [wiki] [[Talk:Sclipting]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43836 * 218.102.194.114 * (+40) Created page with "==Issues== What about Kana and Bopomofo?" 01:16:09 ooh, my new credit card is going to be black. who decides whcih colors are better anyway 01:16:49 They should make credit cards in FF00FF 01:19:19 Or transparent! yah. they should make semitransparent purple credit cards like the GBA 01:27:33 what does this piece of assembly do? test cl, cl jne label 01:28:36 does it ever jump? 01:34:53 challenge of the night: write a program that takes two strings and outputs a brainfuck program that replaces str1 with str2 01:42:29 jne means jump if ZF is 0 01:42:55 test sets ZF to 1 iff the two argumnets ANDed is 0 01:43:18 hence this would jump iff cl is zero 01:43:27 oooh 01:43:27 s/is/isn't/ 01:43:31 oooh 01:43:47 thank you, i didn't know the and part 02:04:11 http://i.imgur.com/lu9wz7i.png 02:04:16 how do i stop this 02:04:17 politely 02:05:37 stop watching mietek? 02:06:03 is that polite? 02:06:29 what will he think? x.x 02:21:17 -!- lleu has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 02:21:43 -!- lleu has joined. 02:27:08 -!- lleu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:27:25 -!- lleu has joined. 02:36:29 -!- _256Q has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:36:33 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 02:42:19 I found some webpage that tries to analyze your writing style and tell you what author you are writing like but it isn't very consistent and keep telling different answer. How would you classify my writing styles though? 02:42:46 (I pasted in several chapters from level20.tex and got many different answers.) 02:43:11 same input same output, at least? 02:44:53 Yes, if the same input is given several times, it does give the same output each time too. 02:45:28 are you a native english speaker? 02:45:58 Yes, but it is Canadian English 03:06:02 zzo38: lots of your sentences are subtly ungrammatical, so your writing style is very recognizable to me. 03:08:23 for example, in that line of yours, i think most english speakers would write: "tell you" -> "tells you", "keep telling different answer" -> "keeps telling different answers"; and consider your versions incorrect 03:11:57 i assumed that zzo38 was a second-generation immigrant, e.g. taught english by non-native speakers 03:14:53 how is mine? 03:15:48 No I was born in British Columbia and lived here all of my lifetime so far (although I have occasionally been to a few other places). Apparently they spoke to me in other languages too but now I forgot, and I speak and write English instead. 03:17:23 i don't think zzo38's grammar was wrong in that line; the "tries to" can scope over all the verbs, which means they can be infinitives 03:17:52 hm wait 03:18:07 oerjan, either way "*different answer" needs either an article or a plural though 03:18:08 the "tell" works, but not the "keep" 03:18:17 but yeah, the "tell" does work! 03:18:43 Right, but your parents are from another country correct? You have a "residual accent". 03:19:41 My grandparents are from other countries 03:22:28 hmm, I haven't heard of an accent goig down three generations before. interesting 03:24:36 you tend to skip plurals and verb agreement basically 03:24:46 i don't think zzo38's manner of writing is an ESL-related thing! 03:25:21 i don't want to assume too much 03:26:39 One of my friends' parents are from russia and because of that he has verb agreement and plurals, but he never puts in any articles when he talks 03:27:38 however, i've seen some evidence that zzo38's writing used to be a _lot_ weirder, years ago (before he came to this channel) 03:28:00 so basically zzo38 has a residue from a language with articles (or at least a similar distinction), but no verb agreement or plural? 03:28:47 his spelling used to be weird too, not any more 03:31:01 zzo38: do you remember why you used to spell the way you did? 03:32:00 mauris: I don't know. But what I do know is that much of that stuff (whether or not it is spelled properly) is full of imposters or confusing someone with someone else, but not all of it is (some is authentic) and I do not know why; sorry. 03:32:41 yeah, i always wondered if it was in error, or if you were advocating some kind of phonetic spelling of English 03:33:11 Well, sorry I just do not know! Although it is true that English has not very good spelling compared to other languages 03:33:22 If you have read my level20.tex and other stuff then how would it be called as the writing style I write with, compare to other author's writing, etc? 03:35:21 zzo38: could you render the current level20.tex to pdf and upload it somewhere? i don't have a TeX renderer on hand, and reading raw .tex code is confusing sometimes :( 03:37:13 I could; I think this computer has dvi to pdf converter (it comes with TeX), so I will just put it in the same directory as the .tex and .dvi files I suppose. 03:39:39 OK, I have done that 03:40:09 cool! can you link the file? 03:41:33 http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex the .dvi and .pdf are also in the same directory (if you want the source files, you also need dungeonsrecording.tex in the same directory) 03:43:40 (There is also level20.trope in the same directory, although it may not be very good; it and the corresponding All The Tropes article could both be improved; actually level20.tex itself could even be improved too) 03:44:10 i can't help but wonder how to pronounce Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe 03:46:09 I don't know either, but I tried anyways and can do nearly approximately. (Note that this is mentioned in the tropes article/RDF too) 03:54:09 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 03:58:08 -!- Wallacoloo has left. 04:24:28 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 04:33:06 -!- Wright has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:33:24 -!- Wright has joined. 04:54:07 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:00:23 Is it possible to make blinking text with CSS animations? And then I could add a global CSS rule to fix the command? 05:09:03 This architecture has a 16-bit A (used for memory addresses and loading constants) register. The instruction set allows for setting A directly with 15-bit numbers (16-bit instruction set, MSB=0 means put the rest of the instruction into A), and memory chips in this have 14-bit addresses (I think) 05:10:51 Haven't actually assembled CPU so maybe they'll surprise me and use two RAM16Ks, but it would have been easier to build a RAM32K (which I'm not being asked to do) 05:12:54 What instruction set is that? 05:14:49 The Hack CPU defined by The Elements of Computing Systems, http://nand2tetris.org/chapters/chapter%2004.pdf 05:15:06 Start reading from 4.2.2 05:15:23 page 8 of the PDF 05:22:08 Oh probably for memory-mapped IO 05:37:00 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:38:39 -!- FreeFull has joined. 05:49:57 -!- aretecode has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:03:21 -!- tswett has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:25:33 `learn Soap is the main ingredient for the iridiscent visions that internet startups sell to investors. 06:25:54 -!- Walpurgisnacht has joined. 06:26:08 (it's cheap. see also: bubble -- but I have no good definition for the latter yet) 06:27:53 Hi int-e 06:28:19 `` sed -i s/iridiscent/iridescent/ wisdom/soap # *sigh* 06:29:00 wait. 06:29:11 -!- stalem has joined. 06:29:13 hackego is online, but not here... 06:29:16 Mm 06:29:34 Get em to join or do you not have the perm 06:32:40 -!- Deewiant has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:32:43 you guys know how often oerjan is around? 06:33:20 haven't been on in awhile so id say for myself he's on pretTy regularly 06:33:28 Unless he died then in which case rip 06:33:45 heh ok thanks 06:33:55 Every day, but he has a fairly unpredictable sleep schedule. 06:34:05 don't we all? 06:34:20 he was there 3 hours ago 06:34:23 I'm fixin mine up 06:34:52 3 hrs ago? is he a bat? 06:35:05 He's an esoteric meme 06:35:13 And I think he'd be on later 06:35:20 I did write "unpredictable sleep schedule" for a reason. 06:35:21 -!- Deewiant has joined. 06:36:16 true, it's just i live a time zone hour before him and being up at that time. not that i should be talking tho 06:36:57 mastering the 20 minute nap would be convenient however 06:38:08 Oh well, I used to follow an approximate 26 hour rhythm when I was a student... 06:38:49 stalem: afaik it is horrible if you delay one sleep time for even 15 minutes 06:39:37 I tried uberman for a month 06:39:38 that's pretty much what i do now and i don't seem to be able to get rid of it. it's like i'm pavloved into a noncircadian rhythm. how did you get out of it? 06:39:41 It was horrible 06:39:56 myname: yeah you wake up feeling all mushy 06:40:44 stalem: external pressure (i.e., a job). 06:41:45 int-e: in time then! maybe it's just me but i do find it somewhat a challenge even applying for jobs when you're not following a 24hr schedule 07:08:58 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:31:32 I fixed the command in the new version of Firefox by writing the userContent.css file to fix it. 07:32:39 blink { animation: __blink 1s infinite; } @keyframes __blink { from {} 50% {visibility: hidden;} to {visibility: hidden;} } 07:36:46 y u do dis ;-; 07:37:37 by fixed you meant disabled? 07:38:20 But "text-decoration: blink" still doesn't work. How do you make CSS selectors to select based on the styles that have been applied to an element? 07:39:04 myname: I mean I fixed it so that the text will blink if inside of ... 07:39:14 gross 07:40:15 Anyone who want to use also can easily customize the blinking speed, currently it is set to 1 second 07:47:58 -!- x10A94 has joined. 07:48:30 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:49:19 -!- heroux has joined. 07:55:56 -!- Walpurgisnacht has quit (Quit: Fuck me). 08:08:52 Good morning 08:34:46 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:56:35 -!- AnotherTest_ has joined. 08:56:35 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:56:36 -!- AnotherTest_ has changed nick to AnotherTest. 09:00:55 -!- shikhin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:05:14 -!- shikhin has joined. 09:14:25 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:34:03 [wiki] [[Pada]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43837&oldid=17354 * Martin Büttner * (-225) Minor language change after email conversation with the original author. Commands will no longer be pipelined through the system but processed one at a time. 09:37:15 [wiki] [[Pada]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43838&oldid=43837 * Martin Büttner * (-26) 09:39:46 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 09:40:22 -!- Patashu has joined. 09:45:29 -!- Patashu has quit (Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .). 09:46:10 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:46:26 -!- Patashu has joined. 10:25:53 -!- boily has joined. 11:17:09 int-e: int-ello! the soap is documented and online. 11:21:53 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ATTUNED CHICKEN). 11:52:31 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 11:54:26 -!- Patashu has joined. 12:07:53 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:10:05 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 12:15:16 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 12:39:21 -!- fowl has quit (*.net *.split). 12:39:21 -!- villasukka has quit (*.net *.split). 12:40:08 -!- fowl has joined. 12:49:28 -!- villasukka has joined. 12:56:21 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Undergroundmonorail * uploaded "[[File:Rainbow-pb.png]]": An example input/output of rainbow.pb. 13:00:14 [wiki] [[Pb]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43840 * Undergroundmonorail * (+5928) page created 13:03:30 [wiki] [[Language list]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43841&oldid=43828 * Undergroundmonorail * (+9) added pb 13:14:17 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 13:18:21 -!- `^_^v has joined. 13:30:11 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 13:31:34 [wiki] [[Pada]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43842&oldid=43838 * Martin Büttner * (+125) 13:47:40 -!- FireFly has quit (Changing host). 13:47:40 -!- FireFly has joined. 13:51:20 -!- aretecode has joined. 14:10:51 -!- FreeFull has joined. 14:11:49 -!- TieSoul has joined. 14:17:42 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 14:23:36 -!- Warrigal has joined. 14:24:26 -!- _256Q has joined. 14:24:31 -!- Warrigal has changed nick to tswett. 14:25:03 -!- tswett has quit (Changing host). 14:25:03 -!- tswett has joined. 14:43:41 -!- ProofTechnique has joined. 14:52:49 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:11:12 * oerjan snores in stalem's general direction 15:11:43 * stalem borks back at oerjan 15:12:07 stalem: i'm a little unsure exactly how you define quine 15:12:10 lemme just do the dishes and i'll be back in 10 15:14:07 -!- ProofTechnique has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:14:31 oh wait you mean never changes from step to step? 15:14:37 indeed 15:14:43 i was just about to write it :P 15:14:53 hm then the TC objection doesn't hold 15:15:06 that was more for, "returns back to the same eventually" 15:15:25 yeah that much i know it does, but iirc they were called oscillators 15:15:44 imho that would be a program that generates a program that eventually generates the original program (a cool idea btw) 15:16:23 iterated quines are a thing 15:16:59 i see. well in any case i meant a sequence that doesn't change from step to step. an unmodified yet modified sequence 15:17:56 by iterated quines, do you mean code that generates sources in other languages which eventually comes back or does just using one language count? 15:18:14 i think one language counts, although polyglots are cooler... 15:18:55 [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43843&oldid=43785 * Stalem * (+19) clarification 15:21:26 i must say i agree. by any chance would you mind taking a look at my thoughts on the 2 2 ... 2 sequences? 15:21:28 > let f n s=var$s++show(succ n`mod`3)++show s in f"let f n s=var$s++show(succ n`mod`3)++show s in f"0 15:21:30 No instance for (Integral [Char]) arising from a use of ‘f’ 15:21:30 In the expression: 15:21:30 f "let f n s=var$s++show(succ n`mod`3)++show s in f" 0 15:21:33 darn 15:21:41 oops wrong order 15:22:50 > let f s n=var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3) in f"let f s n=var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3) in f"0 15:22:52 let f s n=var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3) in f"let f s n=var$s++show s++sh... 15:22:59 neat 15:23:04 oh come on lambdabot 15:23:42 i'll leave you two to it while i fetch some food :P 15:24:20 damn i cannot use lambda because string escape 15:24:28 or wait 15:24:55 > (\s n->var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3))"(\\s n->var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3))"0 15:24:57 (\s n->var$s++show s++show(succ n`mod`3))"(\\s n->var$s++show s++show(succ n... 15:25:33 int-e: lambdabot is far too succinct these days 15:29:00 owell, i think i got your point anyway :P 15:31:28 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 15:41:59 [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43844&oldid=43843 * Quintopia * (-187) The rest of this section has been treating the all-twos period 1 oscillator as a known and obvious fact. 15:44:50 -!- stalem has quit (Quit: Page closed). 15:45:04 aww 15:45:11 @tell stalem aww 15:45:11 Consider it noted. 15:46:25 quintopia: harsh man 15:47:09 [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43845&oldid=43844 * Quintopia * (+135) 15:48:09 oerjan: i just read the proof and it actually proves these are the only period 1 oscillators. Which is interesting. i'm leaving the link., 15:48:21 @tell stalem the interesting part is that those are the only ones 15:48:21 Consider it noted. 15:53:17 -!- Melvar` has joined. 15:53:25 i'm not quite sure skipping the 0 \/ part is _quite_ that easy to justify 15:53:32 but it's probably right, anyway 15:55:50 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:02:35 -!- x10A94 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:04:39 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 16:05:17 -!- Wright has joined. 16:06:07 [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43846&oldid=43845 * Stalem * (-97) dead link 16:07:00 * oerjan swats Stalem in absentia for overreacting -----### 16:23:15 -!- mauris has changed nick to krauris. 16:33:26 [wiki] [[Pada]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43847&oldid=43842 * Martin Büttner * (+5) Add newline to Hello World 16:58:22 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Etc.). 17:47:01 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:47:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:59:13 -!- Typical has joined. 17:59:20 hello 18:00:11 hello? 18:01:14 Hello, what do you want please? 18:01:35 i just wanted to check the channel 18:01:47 O, OK 18:02:14 ok i lied 18:02:31 i have idea of esoteric programming language 18:02:37 OK. What idea is it? 18:03:29 to have only one symbol, count symbols, convert from unary to binary and do something like chicken 18:03:38 but i saw this page um wait 18:03:47 this http://esolangs.org/wiki/OISC 18:04:11 but it was unclear for me and i dont know if its the same or not 18:04:58 could you 18:05:10 tell me if you know 18:06:16 I think it is not the same 18:06:32 thanks 18:06:46 OISC is a instruction set with one instruction (usually with one or more operands), but what you describe is different 18:07:42 thanks, so i will try to write what i described 18:19:24 -!- lunadelsiglo has joined. 18:19:27 -!- lunadelsiglo has left. 18:22:46 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Typical Username * New user account 18:23:41 i made this account 18:24:17 to prevent stealing my probably not that awesome idea 18:24:21 Please do not write a clone of Unary. Or Ook. Or AAAAAAA!!! or whatever. Make yours stand out somehow. 18:25:23 i have to check what is unary 18:26:57 nooooooo, its i as i guessed before before 18:28:40 someone invented my idea before 18:28:48 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:29:24 thanks @quintopia , at least i didnt not waste my time 18:30:33 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 18:32:39 you could hang around 18:32:50 spend some time wiki walking 18:33:02 not everything has been done before 18:34:10 i really did 18:36:52 not everything has been done before but most of the things that i can and want have 18:38:03 did you look at the list of ideas? none of them interest you? 18:38:16 people 18:38:30 are you a good programmer at all? 18:49:25 im not good programmer 18:49:34 could you tell me where i can find this list? 18:52:24 there is a link on the wiki's front page 18:55:23 yay i found it, thanks 19:04:30 [wiki] [[User:Undergroundmonorail]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43848&oldid=43834 * Undergroundmonorail * (+63) 19:05:38 [wiki] [[Pb]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43849&oldid=43840 * Undergroundmonorail * (+14) lowercase title 19:12:43 -!- nycs has joined. 19:14:10 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:49:01 -!- Flonk has quit (Quit: Page closed). 19:57:57 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:22:43 -!- krauris has changed nick to mauris. 20:28:24 -!- Melvar` has changed nick to Melvar. 20:28:34 -!- atrapado has joined. 20:28:44 -!- TieSoul has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:33:35 -!- carado has joined. 20:33:36 How to make a break signal with xterm? 20:33:38 greetings ! 20:34:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:34:28 zzo38: I'm not convinced that a pseudoterminal, which is how xterm implements its terminal, has a break signal 20:34:39 the ioctl says that it only works on a serial terminal 20:34:56 however, by default the terminal settings are set up so that a break sends SIGINT and control-C also sends SIGINT 20:35:10 so if the terminal configuration is at its default, pressing control-C will do the same thing as a break 20:37:05 I am using a program that I have to change it though 20:45:19 [wiki] [[Talk:Pb]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43850 * Rdebath * (+328) /* Visibility as it's running. */ new section 20:46:47 Actually I fixed my program now 20:47:08 But still why it shouldn't be allow with pseudoterminals? 20:48:13 zzo38: it's because a break is basically the name for mis-encoded data on a serial wire 20:48:24 so according to the ioctl docs, it only works on serial terminals 20:48:41 it doesn't work on the ctrl-alt-f1 terminal or pseudoterminals, because those aren't using serial communications internally, and so can't have misencoded data 20:56:03 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 20:56:50 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:04:51 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:05:33 -!- Typical has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 21:05:56 It looks to me that all features of Z-machine other than sounds and joystick can be implemented using xterm and termios functions; even some of the functions of xterm would help much with it; but many of these are newer features of xterm than had existed in Infocom's times (did xterm even exist at all in their time?) 21:12:08 xterm: "Initial release: 1984; 31 years ago"; Infocom: "Founded: MIT (June 22, 1979); Defunct: May 5, 1989". 21:12:13 Some overlap there. 21:20:57 [wiki] [[Talk:Pb]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43851&oldid=43850 * Undergroundmonorail * (+347) 21:35:29 -!- idris-bot has joined. 21:44:32 [wiki] [[Talk:Pb]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43852&oldid=43851 * Undergroundmonorail * (+313) 21:46:45 [wiki] [[Talk:Pb]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43853&oldid=43852 * Undergroundmonorail * (+0) 21:59:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:13:08 -!- bb010g has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 22:22:49 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:34:29 [wiki] [[Pb]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43854&oldid=43849 * Undergroundmonorail * (+6) formatting 22:36:40 -!- oerjan has joined. 22:57:52 -!- boily has joined. 23:00:34 boihly 23:00:47 bœrjansoir! 23:01:56 hi boily 23:02:00 hellochaf! 23:02:04 when's the new olist coming out 23:02:11 new olist? 23:02:25 as in, the list itself is changing? 23:03:02 shachaf: did you get 999 twh 23:03:57 Get? 23:04:00 `run perl -MData::Dumper -e 'print Dumper([ "" =~ /()|()/g ]);' # it makes perfect sense, but somehow I wasn't expecting it 23:04:10 become aware of 23:04:28 ... 23:04:37 fizzie: annoying, isn't it? 23:04:40 Yes. 23:05:03 oerjan: have you forgotten my shocking prediction 23:05:13 which one 23:05:21 about the tie 23:05:25 fizziello. what does that perl do? 23:06:13 fizzie: what you need to do is implement a command so anyone can make HackEgo rejoin twh 23:06:30 -!- HackEgo has joined. 23:06:47 what you need to do is implement a command so anyone can run arbitrary code as root on the machine HackEgo is running on twh 23:07:01 `run perl -MData::Dumper -e 'print Dumper([ "" =~ /()|()/g ]);' 23:07:05 ​$VAR1 = [ \ '', \ undef \ ]; 23:07:19 I mean, it couldn't be anything else. But I still somehow expected both to be ''. 23:07:21 -!- _256Q has left ("Leaving"). 23:07:55 I don't know enough Perl to know the meaning here. 23:08:30 more shocking prediction: the tie causes all the gods to start fighting, creating a new rift that swallows belkar hth 23:10:14 most shocking prediction: rich burlew ends oots next strip. 23:10:29 "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T EXPECT IT" 23:11:06 "I GOT THE IDEA FROM MY FRIEND TAILSTEAK" 23:11:20 shachaf: It's just saying that matching ()|() to an empty string and then asking for the captured groups gives an empty string for the first group, and an undef for the second. 23:11:47 oerjan: DANGER 23:11:48 http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/svc/view?design=a9643add-8fab-453e-b62d-7a38397bd220&max_dim=512 23:12:22 yep, that's clearly the kind of tie being gone for here 23:13:13 fizzie: OK, so that's like matchin "a" with /^(a)|(a)$/ ? 23:13:15 g 23:13:33 Or is it only surprising with empty strings? 23:14:25 /!\ DANGER /!\ 23:15:05 oerjan: well, we already got a happy ending 23:15:24 oerjan: so at this point olist is superfluous 23:15:44 * oerjan suddenly realizes two of the webcomics he follows are drawn by richs 23:15:47 not merely fluous like it was before 887 23:16:08 -!- Patashu has joined. 23:16:18 shachaf: are there any oracle predictions not fulfilled yet... 23:16:38 oerjan: but how many of them got >$1e7 for their comics 23:16:56 oops, 1e6 23:16:56 ooh 23:17:11 PROBABLY AT MOST ONE 23:18:20 shachaf: It only surprised me with empty strings, because I was expecting the unmatched groups to return empty strings. 23:25:21 does the place they're in now count as durkon's dwarven homelands? if not, that part hasn't been fulfilled. 23:25:41 he's posthumous, but in the wrong place. 23:28:14 oerjan: there was also that other prophecy 23:28:53 shachaf: the one about belkar 23:29:03 hasn't been fulfilled on-camera yet 23:29:12 and elan's happy ending cannot happen until the end, by definition 23:29:25 ais523: We've already had a happy ending. 23:29:35 shachaf: I don't think that one counts 23:29:46 ais523: It's titled "Happy Ending" 23:29:58 Anyway, I was talking about the prophecy where Durkon "would bring death and destruction upon his people" 23:30:02 shachaf: that one definitely doesn't count, because (spoilers) it didn't actually happen 23:30:14 shachaf: that one wasn't an oracle prophecy 23:30:18 ais523: It happened from Elan's perspective. 23:30:32 no it didn't, in fact Elan realised it wasn't real 23:30:33 ais523: Oh, right, oerjan did specify "oracle". 23:30:41 [wiki] [[User:Vioz-]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43855 * Vioz- * (+111) Created page with "I'm a guy who enjoys code golfing. [http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/38417/vioz Here's my PPCG profile]." 23:30:49 None of this comic strip is real. 23:30:56 wasn't canon, then 23:31:07 i.e. wasn't real from an in-story perspective 23:31:31 It was real from the perspective of Elan. Later he realized that it wasn't "real" from outside the phantasm, but he still experienced it. 23:31:42 He got everything he wanted. 23:32:10 I don't really buy the whole "real" and "not real" business. 23:33:23 Smullyan talks about this in one of his books. I think _5000 B.C._