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07:08:31 No. 07:13:04 I am on, do you have any questions or complaints please? 07:13:41 hiya hppavilion[1] 07:13:54 Hellu 07:14:03 Unary * and / 07:14:09 someone needs to make that happen 07:14:17 that do? 07:14:24 would / be reciprocal or something? 07:14:53 IDK 07:15:05 Maybe they'd be for imaginary numbers? 07:17:24 Can I complain about Perl6's questionable decision to have truthy/falsey non-Bool items in 'when' and other implicitly smartmatched places to be likely to do the wrong thing? 07:19:25 You can 07:19:28 Do you want to? 07:19:36 perl6 as a whole is a questionable decision 07:19:52 Aearnus_, how so? 07:20:49 there's just no point 07:20:56 perl5 is a good enough language itself 07:21:12 it's like the transition from python2 -> python3 but without the incentive of moving to python3 07:21:40 I can't stand looking at Perl5 but Perl6 fascinates me 07:21:55 it's definitely nice as a standalone langauge 07:22:02 but it's no successor to perl5 07:22:10 No. It's a completely different language. 07:22:19 Well, "completely". 07:36:07 [wiki] [[Talk:ZOWIE]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43704&oldid=34572 * Rdebath * (+856) /* Turing completeness */ new section 07:46:00 [wiki] [[Brainfuck constants/Crunchfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43705&oldid=33103 * Rdebath * (+14307) Finalise. 08:02:01 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:03:31 -!- heroux has joined. 08:04:26 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:05:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:28:47 -!- Frooxius has joined. 09:40:15 -!- |f`-`|f has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:41:25 -!- nortti has joined. 09:48:23 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 09:50:26 -!- heroux has joined. 10:04:27 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: My microwave oven blew the fuse). 10:16:20 -!- Froox has joined. 10:17:30 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 10:19:45 -!- quietello has joined. 10:36:11 -!- boily has joined. 10:37:34 @tell oerjan ヘロリュアン 10:37:34 Consider it noted. 10:40:47 hmm... 10:47:37 b_jellonas. 10:48:06 I may not be exactly at maximum mental abilities. it will get worse during the day. 10:48:18 no alcohol is involved, only a convention. 10:48:39 http://www.otakuthon.com/2015/home/ 10:49:30 oh, there's an anime convention too? 10:49:41 I guess it's summer and convention session 10:50:18 in here the Sziget fesztivál is about to start, just when I leave for vacation 10:50:45 so I think I'll leave lots of people arriving on the airport when I'm leaving 10:50:50 there might be lots of chaos 10:51:41 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 10:53:33 -!- heroux has joined. 10:54:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:58:25 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:59:22 -!- heroux has joined. 11:03:39 This year I did not go to anime convention but maybe next year I might 11:04:29 there's also apparently a My Little Pony convention going on right now in US-MD 11:08:31 hezzo38. 11:15:50 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 11:26:13 -!- J_A_Work has quit (Quit: J_A_Work). 11:31:08 -!- heroux has joined. 11:42:13 zzo38: Are you going to ICFP? 11:45:03 -!- J_A_Work has joined. 11:46:32 `` culprits wisdom/maur 11:46:40 No output. 11:46:45 ...? 11:46:51 say what? 11:48:05 oh. missing two letters. nothing wrong here. 11:49:35 shachaf: I haven't registered; is that necessary? 11:57:31 zzo38: Yes, and there's a fee. 12:05:50 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:07:49 -!- heroux has joined. 12:14:16 -!- |f`-`|f has joined. 12:19:46 `wisdom idris 12:19:49 find: `wisdom/*idris*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory 12:20:00 `? idris 12:20:03 idris? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:20:13 (Whoops, got confused about the commands.) 12:20:44 -!- boily has quit (Quit: 怖い鶏). 12:28:08 [wiki] [[InDec]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43706&oldid=38237 * Rdebath * (-29) Language is not Turing complete as there is no way to add memory (eg: tape, stack, linked lists or arrays) 12:32:57 [wiki] [[ZeptoBasic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43707&oldid=35145 * Rdebath * (+29) Add TC category 12:35:11 -!- J_A_Work has quit (Quit: J_A_Work). 12:46:40 Oh, an important question, 12:46:57 can you point me to a good description of how to make and work with partial clones in git? 12:47:29 It's supposed to be possible, but the git high-level interfaces are crazy, and I have trouble with even simpler commands than this. 12:47:58 -!- J_A_Work has joined. 13:02:15 -!- Wright has joined. 13:13:36 -!- rg_ has joined. 13:17:10 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:36:34 Heveryllone. 13:37:22 -!- tromp has joined. 13:44:10 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:47:41 -!- rg_ has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…). 19:26:58 infixl 1 \\ -- required comment 19:27:09 is that only required because the module uses CPP? 19:27:29 and so the final \ might be confused with line continuation 19:28:29 -!- variable has joined. 19:28:37 http://hackage.haskell.org/package/constraints-0.4.1.3/docs/src/Data-Constraint.html#%5C%5C 19:32:06 CPP definitely triggers an error without it... 19:36:34 oerjan that is exactly why it is required =) 19:54:41 edwardk: why in the world did they make it so you can deduce () has the kind Constraint without doing the same for (,) ... 19:55:27 oerjan, because (,) :: Constraint -> Constraint -> Constraint! Not Constraint! :P 19:55:40 * oerjan swats Taneb -----### 19:56:02 I had that coming 19:56:07 yep 19:56:30 there's an obvious answer, but it's not a good one. 19:56:53 (there are no constraint arguments in (), so they couldn't use the same hack) 20:00:37 Yay now I have two websites I am not using 20:05:40 I wonder what lens-like stuff can be replicated in Perl6 and what can't 20:06:26 Perl 6 has Proxies which when bound to a variable can change the meaning of assignment to and reading from that variable. Currently it seems to be FETCH/STORE, so I don't think a Setter can be made 20:07:16 Perl 6 method call syntax does not rely on the invocant actually knowing about the called method, e.g. $foo.&say will call the say function that is in scope on $foo 20:07:36 (WHereas $foo.say would look up say in terms of what $foo can do, or something) 20:09:39 oerjan: sigh, i wish that person would stop interacting with me 20:10:22 * shachaf is in maximum grouch mode 20:31:10 /ignore ? 20:32:10 -!- Frooxius has joined. 20:32:51 -!- TieSoul has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:35:44 if only 20:39:00 -!- rg_ has joined. 20:42:56 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:45:42 -!- rg_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:45:48 -!- rg__ has joined. 20:46:40 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:47:48 @tell edwardk instance {-# OVERLAPPING #-} (f (Eq()) (Eq()) ~ (Eq(),Eq())) => Test f -- 20:47:48 Consider it noted. 20:47:56 oops 20:48:27 he narrowly avoided a hth there 20:48:29 -!- heroux has joined. 20:49:12 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:49:21 How lucky 20:49:58 that's the best way i've thought of to define an instance for it 20:50:18 i think it might even work, sort of 20:51:24 (well it worked in a trivial test) 20:52:33 @tell edwardk oops, * {-# OVERLAPPABLE #-} 20:52:33 Consider it noted. 20:57:17 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 20:58:20 -!- heroux has joined. 21:05:00 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:13:02 -!- heroux has joined. 21:35:18 -!- rg__ has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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