00:08:07 [wiki] [[User:InputUsername]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43556&oldid=43396 * InputUsername * (+227) Added GScript, implementation of GolfScript 00:09:32 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:12:11 [wiki] [[User:InputUsername]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43557&oldid=43556 * InputUsername * (+61) 00:12:36 [wiki] [[User:InputUsername]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43558&oldid=43557 * InputUsername * (+6) Added break 00:18:17 oren: you should extend these regexpes à la perl, with an "e" switch. 00:38:52 -!- SopaXT has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:48:39 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:03:35 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:05:24 -!- Wallacoloo has joined. 01:05:26 -!- Wallacoloo has quit (Client Quit). 01:09:31 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 01:10:33 An initial review of working at Google: this is the most exhausting tech job. 01:11:54 Oh, it's like 6:15 in California right now, you just got off work? 01:12:32 Been off a little bit. 01:14:12 really.. my work starts at 10 and ends at 6 (so that there's more overlap with the california people) 01:15:43 some of the poeple in the toronto office work from 11-7 or 12-8 even. crazy 01:16:17 12-8 would I think be the same as california 9-5 01:17:20 G told me i should write more java 01:22:45 -!- pikhq has quit (Quit: Switching systems). 01:23:38 -!- pikhq has joined. 01:28:57 -!- mauris has joined. 01:31:21 -!- _256Q has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:32:24 8:30-5:00 is the best, even earlier if possible. 01:32:58 quiet and fresh mornings without too much traffic, nice bike rides... 01:35:52 -!- boily has quit (Quit: GRENADE CHICKEN). 01:59:29 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 02:12:45 how do you get rid of ants 02:13:53 Pour sugar water on the ground 02:14:01 They cant stand the stuff 02:14:29 That's what I did to get the ants 02:14:44 Now I need to get wird of them tdnh 02:16:01 I'm going to try boiling water 02:16:33 hmm it's killing them... 02:17:49 hopefully these ants having been boiled alive will send a message to the ant queen that her progeny are not wlcome in my home 02:35:34 -!- Wallacoloo has joined. 03:00:58 -!- Wallacoloo has left. 04:02:48 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 04:44:11 -!- Wright has joined. 04:44:11 -!- Wright_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:50:32 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:57:45 Are some people on today? 04:58:14 Yes. 04:58:20 O, OK 04:59:33 I still do not know how long it take until my HTTP and gopher services are available again. However one thing to be concern about is possibly the HTTP service will be changed into case-sensitive, so please take that into account in case something doesn't work 04:59:53 I have digital music in my VCR 05:00:30 It says I have a lot of digital channels, but most of them don't work, and most of them that do work have no picture. Do you know why? 05:01:48 I can tell you one idea I had, to make up a "second-level VM" for implementing Z-machine 05:02:38 So there is one main program, but the stuff of differences of ZIP, EZIP, XZIP, YZIP, and possibly even DIP and Inform, in other file it loads and then also load story file 05:09:06 My ideas there are two address spaces but the code and data are stored in the same address space instead of in different one. 05:09:45 It is sort of like a microcode system I suppose, one address space is like the microcode (except that it isn't, but it is kind of like a similar idea) 05:11:34 Also I looked at TempleOS a bit recently; one thing it has that I like is the #exe command. 05:14:11 HolyC and Red Sea Filesystem lol 05:14:43 zzo38 you should see his YouTube videos, specifically his replies to replies to his YouTube videos, hilarious 05:14:50 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 05:18:25 What VM is use for the purpose mainly to run a class of other VM? 05:20:12 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: zzo38). 05:27:25 -!- aretecode has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:46:41 [wiki] [[Hanoi Love]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43559&oldid=43473 * Rdebath * (-27) Smaller Hello world example 07:02:11 -!- Walpurgisnacht has joined. 07:02:48 Sut oedd eich int-e dydd? 07:02:52 I mean 07:02:56 How was your day 07:03:01 Nvm I can't speak today 07:05:23 @metar LOWI 07:05:24 LOWI 180650Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW080 18/15 Q1023 NOSIG 07:13:58 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 07:45:57 `` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done 07:46:28 No output. 07:46:47 That's not right 07:54:59 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:57:27 `` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | tr -cd a-zA-z | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done 07:57:58 bin/! 08:01:59 oh 08:02:14 `` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done | tr -cd \[:print:] 08:02:31 Isn't it too late to tr after the grep? 08:02:46 oh, never mind 08:02:50 No output. 08:03:22 perhaps our low-tech hero ireFl can help here 08:03:34 Though I'm guessing that maybe it's just a timeout. 08:04:45 a-zA-z ? 08:06:12 Oddly enough, that works here. 08:06:15 I wanted to be different, just in case. 08:06:21 -.- 08:12:23 I still don't grok Erlang/Elixir OTP 08:12:53 Like, do most applications used named processes? Wouldn't this mean that two applications could end up conflicting if internal process names conflict? 08:13:11 Aren't named processes a form of global state? 08:31:57 `` hg log --stat bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs 08:31:59 sed: -e expression #1, char 37: missing command 08:32:05 `` hg log --stat bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs 08:32:06 No output. 08:37:59 Oh 08:38:09 `` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs 08:38:50 No output. 08:39:03 `` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' xargs -n 1 08:39:20 grep: xargs: No such file or directory \ grep: 1: No such file or directory 08:40:08 `` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 08:40:33 bin/döts \ bin/wisdöm \ bin/döts \ bin/döts \ bin/döts \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/coins \ bin/r13elcome \ bin/runcpp \ bin/runcpp \ bin/runcpp \ bin/ls \ bin/olist \ bin/olist \ bin/welcome \ bin/it \ bin/pastelog \ bin/! \ bin/! 08:41:02 `r13elcome FireFly 08:41:03 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: r13elcome: not found 08:45:35 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:47:23 -!- heroux has joined. 08:54:12 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:04:36 -!- SopaXT has joined. 09:23:26 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:41:37 -!- Walpurgisnacht has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:06:50 `` ls bin/*13* 10:06:51 bin/rot13 10:22:26 `` echo $'#!python\ns=set()\ntry:\n while True:\n l=raw_input()\n if l not in s:\n s.add(l)\n print(l)\nexcept IOError:\n pass' > bin/uniqs && chmod +x bin/uniqs 10:22:28 No output. 10:22:43 `` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs 10:23:11 bash: /hackenv/bin/uniqs: python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory \ \ xargs: /bin/echo: terminated by signal 13 10:23:40 `` sed -i -e 's,python,/usr/bin/python,' bin/uniqs 10:23:43 No output. 10:24:10 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 10:24:13 `` culprits bin/culprits | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs 10:24:15 Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/uniqs", line 5, in \ l=raw_input() \ EOFError: EOF when reading a line \ Jafet tswett shachaf FireFly 10:24:35 Badger mushrooms 10:24:45 `` sed -i -e 's,IOError,EOFError,' bin/uniqs 10:24:47 No output. 10:24:59 `` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs 10:25:25 bin/döts bin/wisdöm bin/culprits bin/wlcm bin/wlcmr bin/coins bin/r13elcome bin/runcpp bin/ls bin/olist bin/welcome bin/it bin/pastelog bin/! 11:05:15 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 11:05:39 `döts is this thing on? 11:05:40 ​ïs ẗḧïs ẗḧïng ön? 11:06:41 -!- heroux has joined. 11:11:11 what's uniqs? 11:11:25 -!- SopaXT has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:11:33 oh i see 11:14:03 `? unix 11:14:03 unix? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 11:16:41 -!- Slereah__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:16:50 -!- Slereah has joined. 11:40:12 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:40:37 -!- heroux has joined. 11:45:26 -!- ais523 has joined. 11:45:38 -!- ais523 has quit (Changing host). 11:45:38 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:06:34 -!- FreeFull has joined. 12:12:20 `wisdöm 12:12:21 zzö38/zzö38 ïs nöẗ äcẗüällÿ ẗḧë nëẍẗ vërsïön öf füngöẗ, mücḧ äs ïẗ mäÿ sëëm. 12:14:33 the IOCCC has started, btw 12:14:41 they decided to announce that it had started some time after it actually started 12:14:45 which is interesting 12:22:46 We had a heated (fsvo) discussion about that on-channel soon after the announcement. 12:23:26 The end of getting a funny timestamp justifies the means, I guess. 12:27:51 -!- jayCampbell has joined. 12:45:23 wow, the latest version of GNU yes is over 60 times faster than the previous version 12:45:50 I'm surprised that a) there was such scope for optimization, and b) that optimizing yes is something that people actually cared about 12:49:48 it matters if you're using yes to fill up a file 12:50:02 now that disk is fast 12:50:13 yes was actually a bottleneck 12:50:50 i'm making this up based on the fact i've only used yes to fill free space on partitions 12:51:59 they claimed it might matter if using yes to generate source data as part of a testsuite 12:52:24 also, why did you want to exhaust all free space on the partition? 12:52:42 Perhaps /dev/full was broken. 12:53:34 The only time you should use `yes' for test data is when running the test suite for `yes'... 12:54:15 Perhaps there should be a /dev/pseudorandom. 12:54:27 A "repeat source" mode for dd might make sense. It already has quite a few options/conversions. 12:54:40 fizzie: I don't think you can /read/ from /dev/full… 12:54:48 ais523: You can, but you only read zeros. 12:54:53 ah right, that makes sense 12:55:09 come to think of it, this implies that /dev/zero could sensibly be removed 12:55:25 because it reads like /dev/full and writes like /dev/null, so both halves of its functionality are available elsewhere 12:55:47 (/dev/null reads as a zero-length file, right?) 12:56:14 Yes. At least as far as plain reads are concerned. 12:56:21 I'm not sure whether it seeks like a zero-length file. 12:57:07 ais523: poor man's disk scrubber for server customers 12:57:23 jayCampbell: you know of shred, right? 12:57:30 admittedly it doesn't work properly on SSDs 12:57:38 you know they had servers back in the 90s right 12:57:46 but then, overwriting with alternate "y" and "\n" doesn't work with SSDs either 12:58:01 shread's been around for ages, I think 12:58:04 *shred 12:58:17 yes is cross platform and already there 12:58:20 would be surprised if it wasn't around in the 90s 12:58:41 same reason i still use vi everywhere 12:59:15 I assumed that shred was part of POSIX 12:59:18 perhaps it isn't though 12:59:43 its documentation cites the algo as being based on a paper published in 1996, so it perhaps hasn't been around as long as I thought 12:59:45 /dev/pseudorandom is a one-liner with fuse 13:00:00 You use `yes' to scrub disks, not dd (disk destroyer)? 13:00:24 there was other valid data still on the disk 13:00:48 or do you mean dd as input source 13:00:51 yes, i've used that 13:00:53 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 13:02:48 Yes yes, it's clear that you've used yes. 13:04:50 -!- mauris has joined. 13:05:41 The shred info manual doesn't seem to mention flash storage anywhere 13:06:02 yes 01234567890123456789 |head -n 40 > grid.txt 13:06:35 flash is tricky because there's a raid-like controller between you and the disk 13:06:37 -!- rdococ has joined. 13:07:03 the bits you overwrite may not actually be overwritten 13:08:00 so you can't overwrite the flash drive of a laptop with medical records on it reliably 13:08:28 hijacking the controller gives you access to the raw reassigned bits 13:08:56 It's probably cheaper at that point to (physically) shred it 13:09:15 ssd is getting cheeeeeap 13:09:29 Some neural net-generated METAR: EGGW 231420Z 10000KT 9999 FEW009 09/04 Q1004 NOSIG 13:09:35 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 13:09:46 dies are going to 9 and 10 mm 13:09:52 moore goes strong 13:10:03 mm? nm 13:10:39 @google ITAO EGGW 13:10:40 http://italodeli.co.uk/ 13:10:40 Title: italo delicatessen 13:10:48 9mm dies would result in stadium-sized chips 13:11:05 tswett: i can believe that's the weather in luton 13:11:51 @google ICAO EGGW 13:11:51 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_Airport 13:11:56 hth 13:12:50 So that's apparently the London Luton airport. It's 14:20 UTC on the 23rd. The wind is coming from 100 degrees and has a speed of 0 knots. 13:12:58 knots? 13:13:17 Knots. 13:13:29 nots. 13:13:43 nuts! 13:14:50 Prevailing visibility is 9999 meters. FEW009 is probably a cloud layer; I'll come back to that one. The temperature is 9 C and the dewpoint is 4 C. 13:15:32 Altimeter setting is 1004 hPa. No significant changes expected in the next two hours. 13:18:54 All right. There are a few clouds, with the base of the cloud layer at 900 feet. 13:20:32 @metar KGRR 13:20:33 KGRR 181253Z 19005KT 10SM BKN200 BKN250 24/21 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP111 T02390211 13:28:12 @metar tisx 13:28:14 TISX 181253Z 11010KT 10SM SCT021 29/21 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP178 T02890211 13:30:27 http://www.wunderground.com/metarFAQ.asp 13:34:42 so at what point does the neural net actually start predicting the weather accurately? 13:35:39 does it have access to a modeling system or does it have to figure that out itself 13:39:00 It's psychic. 13:39:10 @metar NZIR 13:39:10 No result. 13:40:15 @metar NZWD 13:40:16 No result. 13:40:57 -!- tromp__ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:41:40 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:41:43 @metar CYYZ 13:41:44 CYYZ 181300Z 31004KT 260V320 9SM BKN005 22/20 A2988 RMK SF6 SLP116 DENSITY ALT 1600FT 13:43:23 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 13:57:32 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 13:58:16 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:06:22 -!- tromp has joined. 14:21:57 -!- MoALTz has joined. 15:00:58 xoff ignored mumble mumble 15:28:37 -!- password2 has joined. 15:29:34 @metar lowi 15:29:34 LOWI 181520Z 08008KT 050V120 9999 SCT070 FEW070CB BKN140 30/15 Q1017 TEMPO FM1600 27015G25KT 15:39:00 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 15:40:59 -!- augur has joined. 15:41:33 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 15:43:29 -!- password2 has joined. 15:46:16 It sucks to apparently have scoliosis. 15:48:38 pikhq, :/// 15:48:52 I hope it turns out it's something less scary 15:49:01 Scoliosis isn't that scary. 15:49:08 You might be thinking sclerosis. 15:49:18 Scoliosis is the disorder where your spine is curved wrong. 15:50:40 Scoliosis, except when profoundly severe, mostly just means that you hurt and might have issues with certain physical movements. 15:51:02 It *sucks*, but in terms of long-term prognosis or anything that's mostly it. 15:51:13 I might be thinking of sciatica 15:51:29 Scoliosis is just a consequence of the human back being shit. :) 15:51:38 Oh, that's a relief 15:51:55 Something like 3% of the population has it to some degree. 15:52:59 Don't make me worry like that! :( 15:53:00 :P 15:53:06 I have scoliosis 15:53:13 But yeah. Recently noticed that I have a noticably curved back, along with my freaking right scapula jutting out. (that HURTS) 15:53:16 but it's very minor and not an issue to me 15:53:27 pikhq: ouch 15:53:27 And then found out I've got a family history of it. 15:53:48 and you're somewhere where it's not cheap to get it fixed... 15:54:03 The scapula jutting out is not a new observation, FWIW 15:54:09 coppro: Yes, but I work for Google. 15:54:18 -!- idris-bot has quit (Quit: Terminated). 15:54:43 -!- Melvar has quit (Quit: Expanding / partition). 15:55:00 Which is almost like living in a civilized country. 15:55:54 pikhq: ah yeah, that'll help :) 15:59:23 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:06:56 my mom has a steel rod holding her back straight 16:10:39 maybe you can get one? 16:10:59 that's the common way to solve a scoliosis 16:11:13 Depends. They might not recommend surgery though. 16:11:20 It depends on the spinal curvature. 16:11:23 it's only used in major cases though 16:11:41 Bit more common is stuff like braces. 16:11:48 And physical therapy. 16:12:27 (you can to some extent effect it/reduce chance of progression with carefully designed exercise routines) 16:19:32 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 16:33:41 -!- jayCampbell has quit (Quit: Page closed). 16:39:24 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 16:41:34 -!- FreeFull has joined. 16:46:11 -!- aretecode has joined. 16:55:24 nerp 16:57:19 -!- x10A94 has joined. 16:59:30 -!- tromp has quit. 17:02:56 -!- _256Q has joined. 17:04:06 -!- Melvar has joined. 17:08:39 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:11:38 rdococ:herp derp 17:12:40 -!- idris-bot has joined. 17:15:44 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:16:01 merp 17:16:02 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:16:05 perp 17:16:51 I think it's a shame that Wacom doesn't have their website at wa.com. 17:17:21 If you have a TLD (a real one, not one of these newfangled ones) at the end of your name anyway, you should take advantage of it. 17:18:37 I was disappointed to find that there isn't .on 17:18:56 <_256Q> really? 17:19:02 So I got orenwatson.be because belgian domains are cheap 17:19:07 Admittedly wa.com's been there since 1988, so maybe they'd have to have been very quick in adopting all this e-commerce stuff. But currently wa.com seems to be an empty website with only the text "WA.com" on it, registered by "XXI Ventures Limited", and that looks like a waste. 17:19:11 <_256Q> I was under the impreson you could have .anything at this point 17:19:41 only if you pay a lot I think 17:20:00 Yes, and I'm not sure they allow two-letter names for the new TLDs. 17:20:17 Just so that if ISO assigns a new alpha-2 country code at some point, it won't conflict. 17:20:43 ontario should secede ao that I can have a .on 17:20:59 There's a handy table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table -- there's actually quite a few gaps. 17:21:19 oren: They'd give it .zq or something out of pique. 17:22:09 <_256Q> whats .io's deal? (honestly know very little about it, just gleaned that genraly it relates to something) 17:22:45 .io is very expensive (somehtin like $40). it is used for api's and new javascript b ullshit 17:23:19 toronto should have .yz 17:23:29 <_256Q> fair enugh 17:23:53 I think it's basically demand that determines it 17:24:06 It's officially "British Indian Ocean Territory". 17:24:27 "-- an overseas territory of the United Kingdom situated in the Indian Ocean halfway between Tanzania and Indonesia." 17:25:01 Good old British empire, I'd say, if I wasn't just a filthy immigrant here in UK. 17:25:15 fizzie: you can admire the British empire despite being an immigrant 17:25:17 I mean, someone has to 17:25:23 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:26:05 I like the british empire but only some parts like the queeen 17:27:39 .ai is available but it costs 100$ a year 17:28:38 <_256Q> wow 17:29:14 I had misremembered that the sun was now setting on the empire, but apparently it doesn't quite yet. 17:29:58 "Every night, around midnight GMT, the Sun sets on the Cayman Islands, and doesn't rise over the British Indian Ocean Territory until after 1:00 AM. For that hour, the little Pitcairn Islands in the South Pacific are the only British territory in the Sun. The Pitcairn Islands have a population of a few dozen people, the descendants of the mutineers from the HMS Bounty. The islands became ... 17:30:04 ... notorious in 2004 when a third of the adult male population, including the mayor, were convicted of child sexual abuse." (xkcd what-if) 17:30:05 technically it never does, especially if you count the antarctic britsh territory and the northernmost part of canasa 17:31:08 Wait that's the commonwealth 17:31:57 -!- password2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:32:01 Canada claims a pie-slice reaching up to the pole 17:32:26 Yes, apparently only the territories count for this. 17:41:38 -!- variable has joined. 17:48:04 wubwubwubwubwubwub 17:57:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imR1SZs_Ek 17:57:58 are youtube video ids base64 numbers? 17:58:36 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:58:54 hmm... apparently not 18:05:53 -!- Walpurgisnacht has joined. 18:07:08 Beth mae erchyll y bore! v_v 18:07:37 I'm so tired I frel like I'm gonna melt But I can't go to sleep cuz its day and that unproductive 18:11:22 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:11:55 trying to do something useful while tired is also typically unproductive 18:14:16 then have a tetraspresso 18:15:35 (a form of coffee I invented. four espresso shots + maple syrup, milk and whipped cream) 18:16:02 it is served in a giant tall glass 18:17:59 if you don't have espresso, you can use instant coffee, just triple the amount it says to use on the label 18:18:38 -!- _256Q has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:20:22 I prefer the prefix tetra to quad 18:24:21 -!- _256Q has joined. 18:24:22 -!- _256Q has quit (Changing host). 18:24:22 -!- _256Q has joined. 18:27:23 -!- tromp has joined. 18:51:24 Is there a list of numeric prefixes 18:51:40 fowl: basically just Latin and Greek numbers 18:52:08 Una, duo, tri, quadra, penta, septa, ?? 18:52:31 octa? 18:52:47 Whats 7 18:53:26 eka- dvi- tri- chatur- pancha- 18:53:28 hept- or sept- 18:53:34 (for 7) 18:54:01 guess what language that was 18:54:08 Eh whats six then 18:54:18 oren indian? 18:54:18 sex 18:54:28 sanscrit, yeah 18:54:45 used by mendeleev for his predicted elements 18:55:04 I start counting at 0 though 18:55:33 6 is sex- or hex- 18:55:49 or sometimes seg-, because an x can become a g in some contexts in Latin 18:56:09 Sexsexsex 18:56:44 Bagatelle! 18:57:20 If you bird-brains learned to count from 1 instead, you could count one higher. 18:58:07 e.g. germanium was called eka-silicon and rhenium dvi-manganese 18:58:27 -!- _256Q has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:58:31 so the original element is the zeroth 19:03:17 Therefore, Flerovium could be called eka-Lead, dvi-Tin, tri-Germanium, chatur-Silicon, or pancha-Carbon 19:08:14 -!- _256Q has joined. 19:08:14 -!- _256Q has quit (Changing host). 19:08:14 -!- _256Q has joined. 19:08:25 If \00 is 1 then 1-1 overflows? 19:14:22 -!- x10A94 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:20:15 -!- Wright has joined. 19:33:23 -!- FireFly has joined. 19:35:59 -!- Inri_Cristo has joined. 19:38:23 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:58:52 -!- mauris has joined. 20:07:31 -!- Walpurgisnacht has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:09:59 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: going home). 20:14:31 -!- FireFly has quit (Changing host). 20:14:31 -!- FireFly has joined. 20:15:39 -!- mauris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:15:53 -!- _256Q has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 20:18:53 -!- _256Q has joined. 20:18:53 -!- _256Q has quit (Changing host). 20:18:53 -!- _256Q has joined. 20:45:48 Does your font pass the Dwarf Fortress test? 20:45:50 http://www.orenwatson.be/dffonttest.utf8 20:47:26 Sounds like a test that can end only in failure. 20:50:36 GNU Unifont passes the test, as do my Dwarf-Fortress specific fonts, but most of my other fonts fail 20:50:57 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:53:28 helloerjan! 20:53:32 @tell Gregor glogbot could still do with a proper time setting, now it's 3-4 minutes late 20:53:32 Consider it noted. 20:53:55 good evorening 20:54:07 -!- _256Q has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 20:54:18 Is there a way to control which fonts my system falls back to? 20:55:39 I could use a lot of other fonts if I could make them fall back to GNU Unifont 20:59:28 -!- atrapado has joined. 21:09:35 -!- Inri_Cristo has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:12:53 -!- _256Q has joined. 21:12:53 -!- _256Q has quit (Changing host). 21:12:53 -!- _256Q has joined. 21:20:42 Even UTF-8 is easier in octal! why is everything easier in octal! 21:22:41 You don't need thumbs for them. 21:23:38 -!- copumpkin has joined. 21:23:39 I think a scandinavian king tried to promote octal 21:25:03 Really! Well he was ahead of his time 21:25:16 Too far ahead, it seems. 21:30:23 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 21:38:50 king Octo the Great 21:39:28 The Gr8? 21:39:51 sadly his reign was cut short by the evil witch Hexa 21:41:16 and after that the people were so fed up that they decimated their remaining followers. 21:42:54 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 21:43:39 read all about this in the famous Áttatal epic 21:48:08 "It's nice to be / an astral squirrel / nothing to worry / everything's so easy", like the song goes. 21:48:18 I'm not sure how I got from octal to there. 21:49:00 i guess you went astra(ll)y 21:49:35 It rhymes better in Finnish, in case anyone was wondering. 21:50:23 aha 21:50:50 are there many astral squirrels in finland 21:51:17 "On kiva olla / astraaliorava / ei huolet paina / kaikki on niin helppoa." Okay, maybe it's not all that.. rhymirric? 21:51:24 There are those glidey ones. 21:51:52 Apparently it's just "flying squirrel" in English. 21:53:19 `unicode SQUIRREL 21:53:33 U+A754 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ UTF-8: ea 9d 94 UTF-16BE: a754 Decimal: Ꝕ \ Ꝕ (ꝕ) \ Lowercase: U+A755 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+A755 LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ UTF-8: ea 9d 95 UTF-16BE: a755 Decimal: ꝕ \ ꝕ (Ꝕ) \ Uppercase: U+A754 \ Category: Ll (Le 21:54:04 `` unicode SQUIRREL | grep SQUIRREL 21:54:05 U+A754 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ U+A755 LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL 21:54:13 doesn't look good 21:54:26 are those at least astral characters 21:54:31 No. 21:54:34 Too few digits. 21:54:34 darn 21:54:45 Is that pronounced as "squippel"? 21:55:00 Which, I think, has something to do with the legal term 'estoppel'. 21:57:24 Idea: UTF-24 21:58:01 I think that was proposed, with the obvious semantics. 21:58:44 Nobody seems to want the odd number of bytes. 21:59:32 Possibly because it would be more wasteful (or at least no better) than UTF-8 for the vast majority of scripts for storage/transfer, and it's awkward wrt. alignment for in-memory use. 22:01:17 Well maybe we should assign some code points to U10000000 and tell the people who use UTF-16 to go fuck themselves 22:01:17 It would be most efficient for emoji, though 22:01:41 There is no U10000000, though. 22:01:52 not yet 22:02:05 but UTF-8 could encode it 22:02:19 That's really arguable, and per my definition, no, it couldn't. 22:02:28 The obvious extension of UTF-8 could. 22:02:39 right. 22:03:57 (And old versions of.) 22:07:15 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 22:10:11 ` xxd -rp <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' 22:10:11 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found 22:10:19 `` xxd -rp <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' 22:10:20 No output. 22:10:55 `` xxd -v 22:10:56 xxd V1.10 27oct98 by Juergen Weigert 22:12:45 `` xxd -r -p <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' 22:12:45 ​ 22:13:09 well that did not do what it does on my computer 22:13:50 My client just fell back to [U+00E2 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CIRCUMFLEX] [U+20AC EURO SIGN] [U+2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK] [U+00F9 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH GRAVE] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] for it. 22:14:21 I got a � 22:14:25 Actually, that's not a simple fallback (I was looking at the B0's), it's something more complicated. 22:14:43 `` xxd -r -p <<<'f90a' 22:14:44 ​ 22:14:49 WTF 22:15:33 Maybe it has something to do with HackEgo's output processing. 22:15:54 It's not quite a full pass-through, although I think it was reasonably "raw". 22:16:27 `` xxd -r -p <<<'C00a' 22:16:28 ​ 22:16:47 `` xxd -r -p <<<'ff0a' 22:16:48 ​ 22:17:13 `` xxd -r -p <<<'C2A00a' 22:17:14 ​  22:17:18 Oh, of course: it's probably something related to the prefixing of the zero-width whitespace when the output starts with something that could be a command character. 22:17:19 `` xxd -r -p <<<'C2A50a' 22:17:20 ​¥ 22:17:39 ok so it does modern utf-8 correctly 22:18:11 It does those other things "correctly" too, I think; it's just that it puts in front a UTF-8 thing. 22:18:59 `` xxd -r -p <<<'D6A50a' 22:19:00 ​֥ 22:19:05 `` xxd -r -p <<<'D6650a' 22:19:06 ​e 22:19:20 `` xxd -r -p <<<'D6B50a' 22:19:21 ​ֵ 22:19:43 AHA 22:20:16 The output is a bit confusing in my client, because if it sees something it doesn't like as UTF-8, it decodes the zero-width space too as ISO-8859-15. But I'd wager the actual bytes would be "all right". 22:20:32 Basically, if anything in the line doesn't parse as UTF-8 it does something else 22:21:09 たとえばこのメセージ 22:21:17 No, I think it's your client doing that. 22:22:01 `` xxd -r -p <<<'D90a' >testend 22:22:04 No output. 22:22:14 In my raw(ish) logs, the last two HackEgo outputs are e2 80 8b d6 65 and e2 80 8b d6 b5, which is exactly what you asked for. 22:22:21 With the e2 80 8b prefix. 22:22:29 Uh, and not including that very newest one. 22:22:33 `` cat <<<'たとえばこのメセージ' >testbegin 22:22:35 No output. 22:22:41 now: 22:22:53 `` cat testbegin 22:22:53 ​たとえばこのメセージ 22:22:58 `` cat testbegin testend 22:23:00 ​たとえばこのメセージ \ 22:24:14 ok never mind, it is my client, and my client is super dumb 22:24:38 `` cat testend testbegin 22:24:39 ​ \ たとえばこのメセージ 22:25:43 well we all have irssi in this conversation. 22:26:04 irssi's configurable, though. 22:26:07 and mine has recode_fallback = cp1252 22:26:36 which i was recommended when i configured it to do utf-8 properly 22:26:52 I used to have something more custom, when recode was an external script and not built in, but I have that now too. 22:27:00 -!- Wallacoloo has joined. 22:27:32 well i don't know what irssi does by default, but that;s what I have 22:32:07 `` xxd -r -p <<<'E080b1' >testend 22:32:09 No output. 22:32:11 `` xxd -r -p <<<'E080b1' 22:32:12 ​ 22:32:36 Hmm overlong encodings are out too? Awww.... 22:34:03 I seem to recall that being arguably a security thing. 22:34:19 Although maybe it's kind of lame. 22:34:26 -!- Patashu has joined. 22:34:59 Maybe it's really more about having raw comparisons etc. work. 22:35:08 Well that was supposed to be a 1 that unnacceptably took 3 bytes 22:35:49 raw comparisons don't even close to work in unicdoe anyway 22:36:42 but they would be closer to working if every codepoint had only one encoding 22:37:01 It would allow you to write arbitrarily large twitter messages 22:37:06 That's what the normalization forms are for. 22:38:09 Jafet: Does twitter really count characters? 22:38:15 It does. 22:38:40 Anyway, if x and y are canonical equivalents, then their NFC and NFD forms have the exact same representations; if they are compatibility equivalents, then the same applies to NFKC and NFKD. 22:39:53 ☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼ 22:40:00 -!- Wallacoloo has left. 22:40:33 And anyway, every *codepoint* does have only one encoding, at least in all encoding schemes I know of. 22:40:43 I never found out what DF2 uses the musical notes for 22:41:06 Armor stands and cabinets 22:43:22 er, no. A cabinet is capital Pi 22:43:43 Apparently the single note is a ladle 22:45:15 Not that I have ever seen a ladle in DF 22:45:52 -!- Inri_Cristo has joined. 22:46:45 -!- copumpkin has joined. 22:47:19 -!- Inri_Cristo has quit (Client Quit). 22:47:49 -!- Inri_Cristo has joined. 22:48:03 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))). 22:48:03 -!- Inri_Cristo has changed nick to h0rsep0wer. 22:57:05 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 22:58:16 -!- h0rsep0wer has left ("Leaving"). 22:59:09 -!- heddwch has joined. 23:00:53 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 23:05:55 -!- hippopotamos has joined. 23:06:34 -!- FireFly has joined. 23:21:30 Would the combined encoding be called UTF-8-CP-1252? 23:22:17 or WTF-1252 23:23:20 http://www.orenwatson.be/utf8guide.utf8 23:24:58 WTF-16: encode all code points with surrogates 23:28:01 WTF-64: encode all code points with surrogates, then encode the surrogates with surrogates, and so on until evey code point has 64 bits 23:28:35 -!- hippopotamos has left. 23:28:59 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:34:13 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:36:13 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:48:21 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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