< 1435882347 248658 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435882463 211925 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435882705 999084 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435883190 536781 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435883710 222795 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435883936 599385 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884120 320857 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435884218 970841 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884574 648070 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884993 778250 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435885428 977400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I mean, it can work in Windows and in Linux (and preferably also BSD and Mac OS X) < 1435885739 706342 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooo < 1435886898 398446 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee, guess that would use the C standard library. < 1435886904 913709 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I'm scrolled up. < 1435886912 636839 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1435886934 523285 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the thing I responded to is still the thing to be responded to. < 1435888210 694627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the C standard library actually contain a way to spawn a process besides system()? < 1435888215 316204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The document of popen says only reading or writing not both < 1435888376 219612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant something like the proc_open() function in PHP but in a C program instead. < 1435888690 275416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RECENT CHICKEN < 1435888827 978786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows I am using MinGW to compile it < 1435888943 17022 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks to me like system() is the only function in the C standard library that spawns a process, and that doesn't do what you want. < 1435888958 346838 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So presumably there is, in fact, a very portable way to do the thing you just said. < 1435888969 802861 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just not actually in the C standard library. < 1435889055 35056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I might have to use #ifdef but still should try to do in a good way that isn't very complicated < 1435889254 896034 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435889478 52145 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435889549 387596 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435890578 700030 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1435891798 723920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl look at that body < 1435891824 550858 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1435893088 247052 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1435893182 360021 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435893702 895606 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: I take it you've never heard the song "Sexy and I know it" by LMFAO? < 1435893726 264594 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of it < 1435893740 627069 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I dont listen to that music genre < 1435893939 130786 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435894448 109995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best name for "? < 1435894451 232465 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say bunny ears < 1435894516 563904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the official INTERCAL name < 1435894553 762378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no, rabbit ears < 1435895031 288192 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you might confuse the symbol for a TV antenna < 1435895104 819207 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, those were called both rabbit ears and bunny ears < 1435895250 617879 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :" is dubba kwot < 1435895301 227136 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is dubba dot < 1435895336 175198 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :w is of course the dubba yu < 1435896215 179536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is monkey < 1435896245 161617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And & is the ampersand < 1435896305 620817 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?? < 1435896325 317263 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast < 1435896409 887238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435896419 89319 :password2!~password@197.77.5.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435896448 509892 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit seems to be imploding for real < 1435896460 470711 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435896492 710835 :password2!~password@197.77.5.176 PART :#esoteric < 1435896494 778275 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright then. < 1435896521 847720 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that'll affect the non-major boards on it. < 1435896639 919476 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh the FPHers and their supports seem to be out in full force too < 1435896682 84398 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the subreddit blackout seems to be supported by subs I assume are sane, so < 1435896743 67062 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The subreddit blackout wasn't triggered by FPH-shit, mercifully. < 1435896749 801693 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: It has. < 1435896785 976435 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: As I understand, this was triggered by the firing of a reddit employee who was *vital* in the operation of AMAs that left r/IAMA high and dry. < 1435896804 108270 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said employee was also most mod's sole source of contact with reddit ordinarily. < 1435896821 975251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43398&oldid=42988 5* 0376.99.100.98 5* (+342) 10added ti-68k implementation < 1435896822 133426 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, thought it wasn't just that, but also lack of notification of such < 1435896826 312296 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was no indication she was being fired, and no indication of why, and no indication of what any mods are supposed to do. < 1435896863 163296 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the mods of a lot of subreddits were *already* pretty irritated at perceived lack of any sort of communication from reddit. < 1435896878 519205 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just, mostly in private) < 1435896896 383810 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "no indication of why" is probably normal I think, no need to embarrass the employee further, but yeah, some indication of what's going to happen and what to do next would be critical < 1435896951 975420 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree, I'm just saying that it left mods of some big reddits lost and confused with *no* information other than "she's fired". < 1435896952 224958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ This post explains everything < 1435896992 106214 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1435897134 353488 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :TLDR: the only thing that we know for sure is a bunch of people aren't happy. < 1435897159 288428 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit admins claimed they have people to take her responsibilities, but... they should have communicated to the mods < 1435897162 794702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc < 1435897172 139979 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1435897204 74112 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was (pretty clearly) the straw that broke the camel's back. < 1435897299 691469 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fired by the GestaPao." of course the "we don't like the no harassment rule" crowd is taking advantage < 1435897323 880326 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well *yeah*. < 1435897395 576162 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a glorious opportunity to go "look, see, see, SHES TERRIBLE!" < 1435897423 757044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43399 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+910) 10New concept < 1435897442 460722 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more people can't read and say it's "Reddit CEO Ellen Pao fired Victoria for unknown reasons, and tons of major subs are going private (probably temporarily) in protest." < 1435897447 289124 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/casualiama/comments/3bxje2/ama_request_victoria_former_reddit_employee_for/ < 1435897481 759251 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not supporting Reddit's failure to communicate < 1435897538 569343 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well at most, mods can only keep anything private as long as the admin team doesn't replace them. < 1435897552 748404 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: That would *kill* reddit. < 1435897561 825362 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yeah. < 1435897571 459263 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It's a clusterfuck. < 1435897599 688340 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't visit Reddit, so no idea how much the general traffic would care about a big mod turnover. < 1435897625 227909 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lynching. < 1435897658 675785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the more powerful conceits in the culture is that each subreddit is self-regulated. < 1435897694 283364 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/netsec is down. I need it. < 1435897696 487388 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, that'd make reddit the new digg. < 1435897737 792771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: I wonder how much luck the admin team would have moderating a large subreddit where all the mods have left < 1435897764 418283 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. There's a lot of large subreddits and those were previously run by volunteers. < 1435897825 373146 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I knew they were moderated independently, but no idea how things usually go over there. < 1435897836 396821 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll just wait and find out. < 1435897853 362921 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flames and hostility. /r/subredditdrama is a good collection < 1435897874 825903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43400&oldid=43399 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+45) 10typos < 1435897877 419945 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, reddit has a lot of drama. < 1435897890 482375 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to ignore it, but there's a *lot* of drama around there. < 1435897898 747013 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly just curious if JanusVR's going to keep its board on Reggit or not. < 1435897925 962389 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with other projects that figured "Well, I use Reddit, why *not* make the main board there?" < 1435897945 421546 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JanusVR still insecure afaict, news at 11 < 1435897949 524057 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I should check again < 1435897955 86160 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1435897963 625957 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it ever a security application? < 1435897967 859052 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the "reddit alternatives" are going down because of the inrush of people < 1435897981 350003 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies from web surfaces do not have the domain stored. So a.com can read b.com's cookies < 1435897997 220781 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1435898025 116111 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies were never a well designed thing to begin with, though that is worse. < 1435898122 450481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript wasn't either < 1435898163 186471 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers tend to presume a website designer's control over user experience is a higher priority than user control of the machine. < 1435898166 112098 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure this is a great time to watch reddit with a bag of popcorn. < 1435898200 321027 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Operating systems too, at times. < 1435898299 496506 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream, how many users have the faintest idea how to control their machine? < 1435898314 678669 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would screw something up then blame the website? < 1435898400 8982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if the web were better designed with sane semantic syntax and webdevs it would work out < 1435898603 390265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: That and other reasons is why I had idea we needed to define the new browser < 1435898760 172336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new design would involve many thing including some CSS doesn't work, JavaScripts doesn't work, HSTS doesn't work, and in some cases some CSS specifications can be ignored, such as if you specify background color but not foreground or vice-versa, or if the text and background color is defined for the entire document but not defined for parts of the document, then the color specification is ignored. < 1435898815 322717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also each tab has its own user settings too, normally inheriting the one that opened it < 1435899162 463385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it would treat URLs that the user enters to navigate to as relative, have no toolbar/menubar/icons/etc, and to warn the user when a redirection or link goes to a IP address that is only for local/loopback or a domain name that resolves to such an address (these settings can be overridden) < 1435899358 265495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound like it'd be very usable for me < 1435899399 463335 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the danger in local redirects? < 1435899436 796773 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no one uses URLs these days, everyone googles the URL then clicks the first result < 1435899454 264802 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably not the modern experience but I assume many users have equally insane flows) < 1435899463 516616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use URLs though < 1435899481 46143 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but you're not computer illiterate < 1435899495 135866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also define your own shortcuts that start with a colon though < 1435899496 802904 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose we move everything to gopher < 1435899513 833116 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435899520 838233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would not be made for computer-illiterate people (who shouldn't try to use a computer anyways) < 1435899565 361108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: You can put many thing on gopher but some things isn't, and some things won't work very well with it (although, some things might work better with SSH, telnet, command-line, whatever, too) < 1435899611 564142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would also need the function you can use the interactive controls to try to make a command-line version of a website that works without the web-browser < 1435899675 262055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can server html + css + js over gopher < 1435899686 968368 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a channel is trying to become the biggest on Freenode by filling up with thousands of versions of the same bot < 1435899945 894189 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1435899959 617117 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1435899973 344749 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its all from an amazon isp < 1435899993 157842 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mercifully burned out on internet drama back when I was on a forum in 2004. < 1435900019 706610 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohmai < 1435900036 351049 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I'm not in any way involved with any of the shit going down on Tumblr, Reddit, Youtube etc < 1435900049 982449 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435900069 540187 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's goin on with you oren? < 1435900096 468185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes you can, but you don't need to often plain text work just fine < 1435900098 298043 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I got a new job last week and it's going well < 1435900108 246696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'm just sitting and watching, personally. < 1435900109 974787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Many of my own files I make as just as plain text) < 1435900512 420846 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if /r/OutOfTheLoop shuts down < 1435900521 574377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then madness. < 1435900536 559641 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mods have decided, BTW, they won't shut down even if they're the last sub open. < 1435900589 404070 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1435900604 277977 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they didn't ask to be in the position of the best source of information < 1435900634 127977 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are all the sub reddits collapsing < 1435900677 873067 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ < 1435900813 875504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do put many things on gopher and plain text, but not everything does < 1435901048 265987 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very simple method of file sharing is to make a cloud server, put your files on it owned by root with only read perms, and tell people to log in as user: guest pass: guest < 1435901120 968986 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435901127 514103 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no one has time for that < 1435901435 838291 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3by2nk/a_message_to_our_users/ < 1435901440 829145 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the science in every comment < 1435901768 116262 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww yes, photos of Pluto < 1435903237 679796 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1435904117 197075 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "The admins literally made a decision so fucking stupid that SRS and KotakuInAction are in agreement on something." < 1435904206 186446 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, o.O < 1435904227 424241 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty telling. < 1435904438 451532 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435904459 415176 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, link to that comment? < 1435904738 411256 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already closed tab. It was just someone talking about the subject. < 1435904840 890245 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435905109 163920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435905372 305233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbqAMEwtOE < 1435905880 391147 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435906358 222985 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435906563 370677 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435906822 684913 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435906827 433646 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Use the POSIX C Library? < 1435906842 261542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers like MinGW provide a POSIX layer. < 1435907019 692883 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :using fork/pipe/exec* you might be able to do that. < 1435907038 116143 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and redirect stdin/stdout to the pipes < 1435907120 13400 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907120 258074 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435907120 311778 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907174 468908 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907276 52027 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907301 647366 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907313 572109 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 171120 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 311677 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 469755 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907320 251709 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907356 661911 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908566 956119 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908657 877619 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzyyyknkwwpkeapc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435908662 167003 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1435908662 220956 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxxtqyftpkuxuxks JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908685 61770 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxxtqyftpkuxuxks NICK :glowcoil < 1435909830 953788 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435909944 154777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435911482 608353 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435912037 258670 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: uhm? < 1435912051 356189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you need to set ulimits and what not. < 1435912061 211999 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise guests will just spawn fork bombs and whatever < 1435912126 583705 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use a small webserver? < 1435912132 661368 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that provides a directory listing < 1435912243 299201 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl. < 1435912249 420890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA takes requests really seriously < 1435912587 981863 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good, I guess. < 1435912738 87907 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl PART :#esoteric < 1435912746 978934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435913978 290722 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435914340 865398 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Port registrations are free, right? < 1435914496 1324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read the forms and RFCs and couldn't find anything mentioning that it costs money < 1435914511 75072 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my fucking anxiety "disorder" keeps giving me shivers that I run into hidden costs < 1435914697 528806 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435915295 538778 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435915411 802470 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435916988 754754 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1435916998 97005 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1435917216 512042 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435917482 25526 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435918824 635054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should switch fungot to some other freenode server, it seems more prone to dropping off than usual. < 1435918971 731993 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435918973 171928 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435919105 663459 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435919432 87783 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got fun? < 1435919432 550992 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can just stick in a or v in a code clause. they know how to deal with < 1435919449 691974 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't tell me what to do with my a or v. < 1435919450 166571 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: decrement a register until it's zero and you have an idea how long she's going to evolve them? escape the space? prints just fine. < 1435919607 689297 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435920032 849902 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435921314 927995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, can you move my coordinate a little bit further east? < 1435921497 829381 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1435921511 492574 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much eastness would you like me to add? < 1435921517 57974 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a tda < 1435921518 587706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tad < 1435921525 674845 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am afraid I must disappear to lunch now, though < 1435921552 341585 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very East, if you're having lunch. < 1435921794 184827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have lunch at 10:30am every day, back at the university in Finland. < 1435921811 348049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's when the campus restaurants generally open.) < 1435922112 767935 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were a student. it's a perfectly natural phenomenon. < 1435922134 947736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INNATE CHICKEN < 1435922631 619164 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular lunch time is 11:40am < 1435922636 743908 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is plain crazy < 1435922643 51744 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: When do you eat lunch? < 1435922643 157724 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: a fourth begin to fit inside that lambda? < 1435922653 742686 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. fungot uses lambda time. < 1435922654 165830 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: possibly fnord ogel for the position. i wonder what would happen if i decrement the pointer, i'll have to reconstruct my generic stream-based zipper code to convince you, theoretically. < 1435924115 809412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a perfectly sensible time to have lunch < 1435924334 417171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just after 12, it was < 1435924556 118703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I should use mailing lists more (or usenet) or something, for when I want to ask complicated questions about computers that are tricky to ask on IRC, especially at less busy times when nobody is listening. < 1435924604 477644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am foiled by the fact that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING HELP < 1435924607 811117 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435924621 585226 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924621 749427 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1435924621 803303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924622 24123 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435924652 968372 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924653 81929 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1435924653 135642 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1435925093 657067 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java has some weird rules when dead-code is considered to be an error or just a warning < 1435925118 660678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1435925119 134124 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1435925126 119801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it distinguishes between dead-code and unreachable-code < 1435925167 916069 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the difference? < 1435925197 145930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's just eclipse. < 1435925258 814689 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object obj = null; if(obj == null) return; foobar(); < 1435925264 753673 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the call to foobar() will be marked as dead-code < 1435925272 740252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object obj = null; return; foobar(); < 1435925277 805674 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then foobar() will be marked as unreachable-code < 1435925331 85298 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead-code is when code depends on some conditional < 1435925338 504091 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1435925356 474008 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(true) return; foobar(); < 1435925360 74576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :will actually just trigger dead code < 1435925390 834886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the notion of 'reachability' is defined by the JLS. I assume the dead code parts are some Eclipse static analysis thing. < 1435925401 141932 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think so, yes. < 1435925452 606412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Except for the special treatment of while, do, and for statements whose condition expression has the constant value true, the values of expressions are not taken into account in the flow analysis." < 1435925466 392872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(JLS) < 1435925506 673752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why if(true) return; foobar(); won't trigger unreachable code < 1435925521 834257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but while(true); foobar(); will trigger it < 1435925547 940474 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird. < 1435925552 606699 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they exclude if(true)? < 1435925570 264233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they had to decide where to draw the line < 1435925579 116676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just decided not to bother checking conditionals < 1435925587 600559 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but they check it in loops < 1435925593 698339 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in if < 1435925601 244320 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435925609 279297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435925617 629050 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(true) return; foobar(); compiles < 1435925621 615791 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(true); foobar(); won't < 1435925640 307837 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as fizzie quoted: while, do and for have a special handling for the constant value true < 1435925644 300444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if does not. < 1435925685 509373 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about while(true) return; foobar();? < 1435925700 904896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't compile, but it has nothing to do with the 'return'. < 1435925718 291457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(true) {return; foobar();}? < 1435925759 96604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would also have foobar(); as unreachable, but just based on the analysis within the block. < 1435926017 988653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rationale I saw for not special-casing conditionals mentioned the case of something like if (DBG) doSomethingSpecial(); -- per the language specification, if DBG is a final variable, special-casing of the form "if (false) X; means X is not executed" would make all those lines errors if DBG was set to false. < 1435926047 784520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(References to final variables count as constant expressions.) < 1435926289 124142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, closer to the "if (true) return;" example, you could imagine if (LEAN_AND_MEAN) return simpleApproximation(); return somethingVeryComplicated(); and a compile-time toggle to select what to use, which would have unreachable code no matter which way LEAN_AND_MEAN is defined. Not that that's perhaps very idiomatic Java; I'm sure the "proper" way would be something like having an interface ... < 1435926295 257517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and a dependency injection framework to select implementation classes, or whatever. < 1435926353 143331 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just exclude non-final variables < 1435926358 739149 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then boolean DBG = true; would work < 1435926399 389547 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use getters/setters < 1435926402 195657 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(isDebug()) < 1435926442 849243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would mean a whole new definition of what "constant expression" is, for possibly very little benefit, since the cases where there's *actually* a literal 'true' or 'false' in a conditional are probably pretty contrived. < 1435926461 109341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the rationale's actually right at the end of the reachability chapter, and it's exactly the conditional-compilation thing. < 1435926527 502291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without final it's hard to make dead code elimination < 1435926536 828764 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the if condition would be always checked at runtime < 1435926541 810581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a slight performance impact < 1435926549 259090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess having if as a special case really makes sense < 1435926564 696507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This approach [of special-casing true/false] would be consistent with the treatment of other control structures. However, in order to allow the if statement to be used conveniently for "conditional compilation" purposes, the actual rules differ. As an example, the following statement results in a compile-time error: while (false) { x=3; } because the statement x=3; is not reachable; but the ... < 1435926570 695368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... superficially similar case: if (false) { x=3; } does not result in a compile-time error. An optimizing compiler may realize that the statement x=3; will never be executed and may choose to omit the code for that statement from the generated class file, but the statement x=3; is not regarded as "unreachable" in the technical sense specified here. The rationale for this differing treatment ... < 1435926576 797346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is to allow programmers to define "flag variables" such as: static final boolean DEBUG = false; and then write code such as: if (DEBUG) { x=3; } The idea is that it should be possible to change the value of DEBUG from false to true or from true to false and then compile the code correctly with no other changes to the program text. This ability to "conditionally compile" has no ... < 1435926582 740083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... relationship to binary compatibility (§13 (Binary Compatibility)). If a set of classes that use such a "flag" variable are compiled and conditional code is omitted, it does not suffice later to distribute just a new version of the class or interface that contains the definition of the flag. The classes that use the flag will not see its new value, so their behavior may be surprising, but ... < 1435926588 759351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... no LinkageError will occur. A change to the value of a flag is, therefore, binary compatible with pre-existing binaries, but not behaviorally compatible." < 1435926591 718450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably not very readable. < 1435926645 570304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435926697 51988 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead code elimination would break binary compatibility < 1435926700 145894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1435926704 67605 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cases of it < 1435926736 978040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing about allowing -- actually, I think it might even be required -- the baking of final values into classes that use them is I think also rationalized by the conditional-compliation-and-efficiency arguments. < 1435926853 315307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing unused members certainly can break stuff :) < 1435926894 286704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If a field is a constant variable (§4.12.4), and moreover is static, then deleting the keyword final or changing its value will not break compatibility with pre-existing binaries by causing them not to run, but they will not see any new value for a usage of the field unless they are recompiled. This result is a side-effect of the decision to support conditional compilation (§14.21). (One ... < 1435926900 394461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... might suppose that the new value is not seen if the usage occurs in a constant expression (§15.28) but is seen otherwise. This is not so; pre-existing binaries do not see the new value at all.)" < 1435926911 819193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Proguard is quite capable of breaking stuff, too. < 1435926937 189921 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1435926943 686805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It messes up things that relies on reflection < 1435926959 657278 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like runtime injection and the like < 1435926977 839095 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it probably also renames method names in beans < 1435926982 270018 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which breaks a shitload of stuff < 1435927122 289300 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you use Proguard? < 1435927510 470652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not technically allowed to go into details about any work stuff, and I haven't used Proguard for anything I've done for fun. < 1435927589 485242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think it's relatively well-known that big Android apps tend to benefit from Proguarding w.r.t. dex method limits and such. I see it's even one of the official recommendations of things to try: https://developer.android.com/tools/building/multidex.html < 1435927645 59552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you have built an Android app and received this error, then congratulations, you have a lot of code!" So whimsical. < 1435927848 794567 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : You could've been rich. -- My mother, proguard < 1435927849 701053 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1435927855 142004 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck it open software! < 1435929378 775717 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435930737 109970 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435930874 986709 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. come on < 1435930878 320130 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitbucket has a referer check < 1435931212 388971 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435931730 771116 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435931929 97489 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435931940 729574 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1435932051 466198 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435932364 20866 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzuvtonyytownuxv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435932522 579939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435933090 307254 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@85.133.27.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435934407 381388 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1435934994 282748 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@85.133.27.55 QUIT :Quit: A IRC Client Of Some Form. Not Sure Though - Might Be Turkey Sandwich. < 1435935432 327300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435935570 930101 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here I go, training yet another neural net on the #esoteric logs. < 1435935661 8429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you want your babble model to be reinterpreted as some sort of a deep recurrent neural network? < 1435935661 366726 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's about fnord. i'm trying to transform the cases it can't refer to information, how can you have an exe lying around somewhere if you're interested < 1435935681 458357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's a yes or a no, but I'm not about to implement it either way. < 1435935739 374316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435935764 670362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still haven't even fixed the use of the backoff weights in the n-gram sampling Funge code.) < 1435935771 58163 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :53:27:50: you bors inf mite darpikh in asce are ult hapaatud tor arypo leatet thas) < 1435935775 449307 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty accurate. < 1435935796 144754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how late in the day that is, it seems quite reasonable. < 1435935850 69445 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435935863 789555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 20 < 1435935864 781144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shake qwert recurscript minius channah *w wilson puzzlank fractal oozlybub brain minius 2iota gecha smation ozone9000 noobare f murphy godscraffic < 1435935955 59691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be nice of `words had a filter that'd reject words originally in the training set. Although maybe it's part of the fun to actually occasionally get real words when it comes to natural languages. < 1435935958 993952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 20 < 1435935960 24949 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laavistä nopeimpaa epäisemilleni hakintohisti agitaimat paansa kuuttavallesi teräisellisimmiksi syväjännerotteelli vaamme rahtuvaltoivalmi koistisempii heimaksikirkkää vaksenne ahkeämpää kohduttamili myyvillaajen taisenne neuvottamme harmaltisempi < 1435935992 768241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --english 10 < 1435935993 601233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1435936000 572152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1435936001 353942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1435936005 707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435936007 88596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 'eng1m' or something. < 1435936008 755605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1435936009 643366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1435936015 941774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, eng-1M. And eng-all. < 1435936019 894161 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10 < 1435936021 590893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunizinai mult leituilla casie emblack vlevallm rashman kate reer voten < 1435936033 403185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --italian 10 < 1435936034 159072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rifina dentavano speteste attridiassi accatastionifica univamo tuggi dall'inte convulghi anghinia < 1435936068 530052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vlevallm" seems like a totally legit English word, yes. < 1435936093 593562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-gb 10 # talk like a British lord < 1435936097 839372 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :domum aca circu inde eque tberg wilh str uvrena probach < 1435936119 492577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more impressed by --esolangs and --finnish than the English outputs, honestly. < 1435936168 969458 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomly generated esolang name: Tistribtikive < 1435936259 695565 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the low-temperature setting, this thing likes to produce *extremely* long bfjoust commands. < 1435936283 430630 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure each one is something like a thousand characters long. < 1435937041 299077 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435937057 65126 :supay_!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf JOIN :#esoteric < 1435937265 141255 :supay_!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf NICK :supay < 1435938597 145280 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435938695 879853 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlkibmfiruybbztz QUIT : < 1435939049 717158 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435939231 45675 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjmuswzkwfetkvby JOIN :#esoteric < 1435940029 907503 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --dutch < 1435940031 6629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: dutch < 1435940034 432312 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1435940068 193633 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german < 1435940069 932509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :versen < 1435940078 720834 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 20 < 1435940080 288357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erhältnik grilhasen wegungsnachtsgleie modenstenuz gedankflussenhärtyre infuhr zonensbezoge diskomentöfset flußzahngriftsv beystem urschler wolksamiith motischen bedria stempel födelsordichtmus wiedlereisen phaservermäß perren vierenz < 1435940090 941886 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoses are very german < 1435941429 522770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you show me the codes to redirect this pipes/fork/exec two-ways with MinGW? I read somewhere that on Windows the popen function doesn't work with GUI programs (so presumably doesn't work with Glk) < 1435941589 189537 :supay!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf QUIT : < 1435942002 578290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1435942022 816130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942071 535902 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435942184 914222 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942783 894141 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942794 518322 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435942840 130026 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435943415 267462 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfpkgirtsanmfuxq QUIT : < 1435943429 56651 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhxjkbgdyvyxjhr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435943625 129821 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435945869 932659 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435945870 26134 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435945870 26200 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435946064 79498 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435946498 199535 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjmuswzkwfetkvby QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435946558 112395 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435946966 291227 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1435946981 520504 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435947524 446614 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is wegungsnachtgleie < 1435947741 801904 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435947761 25970 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435948686 965899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43401&oldid=43400 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (-955) 10withdrawn by author < 1435948928 932113 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435948943 738810 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435949082 736502 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435949990 261854 :japh!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435949997 84065 :japh!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 NICK :jayCampbell < 1435950057 126021 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435950092 582823 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1435950094 711143 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm abstracting in javascript for bf derivatives < 1435950108 209947 :lawspeaker!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435950149 700564 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric : var machine = new TapeMachine({ '+' : 'm.tape[this.pc]++;' , '-' : 'm.tape[this.pc]--;' , '>' : 'm.pc++;' , '<' : 'm.pc--;' , ',' : 'm.tape[m.pc]=m.input();' , '.' : 'm.output( m.tape[m.pc] );' , '[' : 'while( m.tape[m.pc] !=0 ) {' , ']' : 'if( m.tape[m.pc]==0 ) break; }' }, 100); < 1435950181 161549 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine.run( "++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++."); < 1435951445 565865 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1435952317 959116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GolfScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43402&oldid=35741 5* 0398.144.6.77 5* (+42) 10/* External resources */ Changed Golfscript homepage link to latest working one from the Wayback Machine < 1435952331 675787 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :any regexp wizards present? < 1435952414 111526 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435952475 151809 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the question, i guess < 1435952585 112920 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a big text file, with a bunch of date stamps that look like this: 2014-09-15T23:22:25 < 1435952598 90535 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to lop off the T and everything after it, leaving only the date. < 1435953198 397644 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435953217 257569 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :T\d\d:\d\d:\d\d < 1435953350 367968 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You fucking assholes downvoted it for no other reason than "lol fuck Ellen Pao" after screaming that she needs to come in and say something. You fucking people are unbelievable." < 1435953390 650725 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, enough downvotes in the sub in question apparently triggered automoderator to hide her post, which people then assumed was her deleting it < 1435953561 554967 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435953704 57444 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yes, I hear reddit's finally descended into complete anarchy these days. < 1435955259 104687 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What's the post? < 1435955430 217744 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3byaei/reddit_alternatives_other_subs_going_private_to/csr0by6 < 1435955870 755380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435955916 282220 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: s/\([[:digit:]]\{4\}-[[:digit:]]\{2\}-[[:digit:]]\{2\}}\)T[[:digit:]]\{2\}:[[:digit:]]\{2\}:[[:digit:]]\{2\}/\1/g < 1435956883 792968 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1435957314 194042 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435958832 340085 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does my face itch so much < 1435959064 302197 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435959070 252372 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1435959070 306311 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435959079 25081 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1435960931 663486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435961138 205061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I am foiled by the fact that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING HELP <-- a common problem. < 1435961344 677651 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435962304 135687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently girl genius is doing art pages only because kaja foglio hurt her back... < 1435962450 498374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i whom did she hurt back? < 1435962473 424041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1435962487 138757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's what you wanted hth < 1435962508 446680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not specifically aiming for it < 1435962550 996886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do the aiming here hth < 1435963219 442082 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435964900 719977 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435964924 184539 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1435965075 894684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GolfScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43403&oldid=43402 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template < 1435965082 639142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that took a while < 1435965104 399515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ping fizzie that the link was broken again < 1435965108 106052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi!) < 1435965150 127140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask jayCampbell do you want Esomarklets deleted altogether? < 1435965150 230179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435965265 968770 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :When i was young i was interested in creating my own spoken language < 1435965304 576226 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now im doing the same thing but with computers. Its easier to convince a computer to speak your language than it is to convince a human < 1435965306 581027 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :言語を作る事難しいですね。 < 1435965337 511731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else keep getting sporadic TLS errors with reddit < 1435965348 103619 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't. < 1435965352 275917 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never do < 1435965356 927647 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again i dont reddit < 1435965382 851473 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435965386 94850 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1435965789 715289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes get sporadic TLS errors with Wikipedia < 1435965832 254323 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're seeing NSA TLS breaking attacks. < 1435965858 803445 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if 2D languages will ever be used commercially... < 1435965990 865105 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435966013 659566 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to _make_ a commercially-viable 2D lang... < 1435966058 522190 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt I could do it :P < 1435966158 306544 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435966225 676805 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1435966280 352222 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 http://staraban.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/unreal-engine-4-blueprint-editor.jpg < 1435966376 58380 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435966377 402361 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1435966389 667540 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a language called Generic 2D Brainfuck :P < 1435966554 764987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an ancient 2d language that _was_ used commercially < 1435966562 221633 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs arent generally commercially viable < 1435966577 817560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient as in '80s or thereabouts < 1435966600 199439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks the prehistory page
< 1435966715 12781 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435966755 286888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Biota < 1435966771 970934 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.keithschwarz.com/kleene/ The kleene program accepts as input a C++ program, then produces a new C++ file that includes a function kleene::MySource() that returns a copy of the program's source code. < 1435966850 594227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Biota, devised by Ward Cunningham, is an esoteric programming language in two dimensions and sold for a net profit in 1991 (predating Befunge)." < 1435966872 586940 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish i could sell something for a net profit < 1435966909 97656 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe my wife would respect me < 1435966985 197141 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435967098 384758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Generic 2D Brainfuck14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43404 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2659) 10Created Page < 1435967172 799508 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know biota < 1435967181 945624 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's never been used commercially as far as I know < 1435967323 572082 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435967341 635516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:2D BF14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43405&oldid=24985 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+259) 10Generic 2D Brainfuck < 1435967374 736814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:2D BF14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43406&oldid=43405 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-1) 10Whoops. Codified my sig. < 1435967498 471377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43407&oldid=43294 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+316) 10/* Peano */ new section < 1435967700 674575 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM TOP EDITOR OF THE DAY < 1435967706 283061 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEAR MY WRATH < 1435967710 653085 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435967826 825607 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435967953 40592 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooooo