< 1433117169 773141 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433117422 443315 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, magic 8-ball program came out to 2131 commands. < 1433117483 353587 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :each command being exactly 4 characters < 1433117525 531928 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't understand a word of it < 1433117633 393929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like magic < 1433117718 705498 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three-command structure A1??C210M+00 is very common < 1433117743 416888 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ?? being a byte in hex < 1433117765 672996 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing that, take a guess what it does... < 1433117797 319168 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, what it is for < 1433117878 227896 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it has to do with memory. < 1433117962 813678 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :store ?? in var 1, copy var 1 to t-memory location contained in var 0, increment var 0 by one < 1433117988 794419 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used a shell script i made to generate most of this < 1433118094 467089 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :at most 24 of the 2131 commands used involve things other than storing 8-ball answers to memory < 1433118165 422586 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :21*32*3 is the amount of pure "if command is run, copy something into memory" < 1433118209 870458 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016 of 2131 < 1433118213 629325 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that < 1433118269 696309 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only uses 32 bytes of t-memory < 1433118306 411876 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :(20 answers, one info screen, 16x2 lcd) < 1433118455 62131 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: as i need an assignment, give me a complex program idea to make that can use only a 16x2 character-only lcd and 5 buttons that are multiplexed so that only one can be pressed at any time < 1433118522 155754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very large screen < 1433118581 711322 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are arduino unos with lcd keypad shields and with programs being run directly from sd < 1433118638 845222 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 bytes of command buffering in the programming language i designed to be interpreted < 1433118654 22224 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A side-scroller where you move in four directions and shoot a gun < 1433118705 776041 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :side scroller with a 2-line-high display, no custom chars? < 1433118754 371552 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 1-byte vars/active function, 256-byte global array < 1433118756 214347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit google why are you showing only the norwegian wikipedia result < 1433118873 311302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering if that screen would be just large enough for backgammon < 1433118888 559818 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm...i can modify the interpreter to allow for a 3x1 grid as an alternate mode for each character point on the screen < 1433118902 366943 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 16x6 < 1433118926 43121 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all points are in graphis mode < 1433118945 304205 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've done thins like this before < 1433119040 928315 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 max custom chars on the device, but the interpeter i wrote doesn't yet have the commands to configure them < 1433119133 52207 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :20x14 graphics display and 12x8 text display side by side is the best i can do < 1433119237 239279 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :5x7 chars with a single pixel width between each pixel < 1433119336 590907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean backgammon with numbers showing field contents) < 1433119344 825275 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :might actually be able to do a rogue-like game < 1433119424 754201 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system can run up to five different games on a card (five buttons) so i will try for both backgammon and rogue-ike < 1433119427 789928 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I bet the people in #esoteric would love BF Joust. < 1433119445 147449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I was hoping so, but they aren't interested in it today < 1433119448 394914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least some of them aren't < 1433119450 384278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you? < 1433119466 760378 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433119467 836387 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorta. I want to write a Haskell EDSL for creating BF Joust programs. < 1433119472 837525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1433119482 662658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a NetHack tournament right now < 1433119494 681548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I'm less busy I'll be happy to give anyone who cares strategy advice < 1433120440 830912 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is going to be so little memory left for non-global variables on my arduino uno that i hope the new version of the interpreter will actually start < 1433120457 568678 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone run < 1433121133 741225 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Norwegian has two written forms, aye? Bokmal and Nynorsk. < 1433121157 1746 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they different orthographies, with different spelling and pronunciation rules? < 1433121209 149652 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the syntax and vocabulary are pretty much identical. I think I saw on Wikipedia that there are a few suffixes where the Bokmal and Nynorsk equivalents look completely different. < 1433121242 390967 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those, I assume, would just be considered different spellings and pronunciations of the same affixes. < 1433121395 662548 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're writing down actual speech, do you use the forms typical of the written form you're using, or the forms that the person actually said? < 1433121403 801065 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the 'bok' meaning book, I assume it is similar to the way the KJV of the bible has thou and thee and didst etc. < 1433121491 33646 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that people don't write new books in 16c english < 1433121515 865790 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they could, if they wanted to < 1433121593 18690 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying that people also speak bokmål? < 1433121809 480344 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... according to wikipedia, nynorsk is the minority lect < 1433121865 522331 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_language_conflict < 1433122191 51373 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433122299 108963 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433123128 425541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no, it's not just orthography. and technically pronunciation is not defined by the standards. < 1433123132 222749 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh! where=hvor why=hvorfor -> like shakespearian english 'wherefore' < 1433123194 847664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is plenty of vocabulary that would only be used in one of the forms, although some of it may gradually be becoming archaic. < 1433123286 103957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If you're writing down actual speech, do you use the forms typical of the written form you're using, or the forms that the person actually said? <-- usually but not always the former. < 1433123324 140799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. humor books might frequently try and write dialect. < 1433123345 627914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to < 1433123376 617779 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'try and write' is perfectly grammatical in english < 1433123393 338946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And those, I assume, would just be considered different spellings and pronunciations of the same affixes. <-- i doubt that, if they really look completely different rather than being obvious cognates < 1433123539 235953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or are you saying that people also speak bokmål? <-- you could say some people are closer to it, like western parts of oslo and some other cities. < 1433123673 154187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some differences in grammar, some differences in usage (e.g. -s possessive suffix is deprecated in nynorsk) < 1433123732 115889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: to vs. and is a sore point in norwegian, because they are å vs. og, identically pronounced. < 1433124056 630682 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I just thought of an extremely small unit of money. < 1433124091 424592 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely: the cost of an amount of computing power equal to that performed by one transistor in one clock cycle. < 1433124113 818641 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. so the g is silent? < 1433124170 443426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah, final g often is. < 1433124183 728032 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1433124238 152974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's so small that it costs more than it to account for it... < 1433124256 438920 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, certainly. < 1433124300 67618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good. let's use it to break capitalism. < 1433124334 682704 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this unit is about one zeptocent. < 1433124387 654588 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's essentially the cost of one nand operation from two bits to one < 1433124394 39932 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is the phrase "astronomically large" going to be replaced with "computer scientifically large"? < 1433124452 913775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the latter sounds _very_ vague in comparison. < 1433124453 89449 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when we break down the earth to build a computer out of it < 1433124485 616222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"astronomically large" has a much lower upper bound. < 1433124496 588939 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1433124515 698592 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I think a computer made mostly of iron like the earth would have to be a mechanical one < 1433124517 537182 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a certain way, a microsecond is "computer scientifically large". < 1433124548 741352 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we going to keep the earth as one big ball or are we going to break it up into lots of tiny pieces? < 1433124557 199778 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we keep it as a ball, cooling could be a major problem. < 1433124581 244919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm maybe a large disc? < 1433124597 717625 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ultimate hard disk < 1433124690 826294 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :}{FISH} < 1433124730 600855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm engineering problem < 1433124764 354353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1433124781 676620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably want it distributed around the sun any way, to catch all the energy. < 1433124922 481081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*- < 1433125683 832467 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, in order to make sure that the arduino sketch would run, i almost made the interpreter incompatible with one of my demo programs < 1433127121 736256 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1433127899 283927 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433128545 255805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to play poker with self-modifying rules? < 1433131219 250157 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :re-added calling funtions from inside functions. < 1433131269 371624 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, for stability's sake, you only have a depth of 3 (not inclding the main) < 1433131329 237653 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause this arduino uno is dangerously low on ram < 1433131677 644012 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want me to upload the Octopus 0005b language reference to my server? < 1433132038 218116 :password2!~password@197.77.0.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433132255 953456 :}{FISH}!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433132346 413959 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1433132678 791781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1433132687 597620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see the instructions < 1433133063 662969 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433133315 571995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added support for vector synthesis into AmigaMML (with two or four sounds, but only supports using an envelope; it doesn't support a joystick) but I do not have any instrument of vector synthesis do you have some? < 1433134112 28738 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433134124 786664 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't thin i do < 1433134235 947043 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98841263/octopus%20language/octopus_0005b_lcd1602_keypad_sd%20commands.pdf < 1433134270 874137 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's on my dropbox instead of my server because it's gonna be obsolete by the afternoon < 1433134400 835057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a .txt or only .pdf? < 1433134433 941174 :Elronnd|deminewt!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :root < 1433134442 329162 :root!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd|deminewt < 1433134542 754189 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :text isn't formatted as well, but i'll get it in a second < 1433134608 649259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need it now since I already looked < 1433134620 768974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, later on when you post final documentation, maybe you should make .txt < 1433134639 236602 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :this ain't anywhere close to final < 1433134692 623585 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go ocd on both command listings and command fixings < 1433134782 893348 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it look any good to you so far? < 1433134816 689456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1433134849 816340 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to put bitwise operations in < 1433134925 493698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1433134935 872927 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on graphics at the moment < 1433134976 340606 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the graphics capbility of a 16x2 "text-only" display < 1433135199 83802 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 custom characters gives me a little room to draw < 1433135397 472850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big are the tiles? < 1433135408 113863 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433135408 463097 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :5x8 < 1433135437 184411 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles are seperated by a space 1 pixel wide < 1433135541 506393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: bebepating < 1433135728 577234 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to wake myself up enough to gt up and turn the light off < 1433135840 490286 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433136215 435467 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433136280 88094 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION coughs up all over the channel < 1433136309 158706 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 hour nasacort only lasts for 16 < 1433136434 520734 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433136750 31690 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433136930 720639 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433137504 394044 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433137750 885544 :password2!~password@197.77.0.27 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433138019 156529 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433138052 643688 :APic!apic@apic.name NICK :APic\splat < 1433138563 838472 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433138792 960010 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433138944 219791 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433139277 847145 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433139284 759232 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai < 1433139599 547478 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433139653 673717 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433139751 239600 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433139922 138280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is again nostalgic about himself < 1433140217 671655 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is too tired to close her eyes < 1433140229 341411 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*his eyes < 1433140364 411376 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433140758 3101 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433140911 411282 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433140987 817138 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi PART :#esoteric < 1433141737 772172 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433141817 350929 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433142044 421510 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433142215 866070 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433142475 887334 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: morning < 1433142476 99932 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: and it was < 1433142508 374505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: was...? < 1433142508 734176 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: the text color is ..well... touching. it has to do with the semantics i have now has an elisp module system really needs better documentation and probably an easier way to convert 2d objects into 3d objects. < 1433143252 560223 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433143253 964344 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon, fungot < 1433143254 238779 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: although i've always used ghost for kicking my own fnord code golf. more formal. challenges organized, hidden input/ output < 1433143567 541663 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433143682 966149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had idea to make up the "travel computer", with a monochrome display of 80x25 tiles, with 8x8 pixels per tile, and with simple tone generator, radio receiver, alarm, CF card, wired and wireless internet, infrared, and Forth. Smaller than a laptop computer, such as perhaps 8x11 inches when closed? I don't quite know, but I have some ideas < 1433143725 267266 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kudos. < 1433143739 429836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other program to built-in, other than Forth, is a VT100 terminal emulator, and perhaps network connection setup and a telnet and/or SSH client.) < 1433143936 885930 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1433143941 682208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of to have a character generator ROM with 127 tiles where 0-30 are VT100 character graphics, and that 31 and 32 are arrows. The character cell can have bit7 indicate reverse video and bit6-bit0 indicate which tile. Each row can also have perhaps 4-bits tell you the mode, such as double height, double width, underline/reverse/blink, pixels mode (therefore you can make 2x4 graphics per cell in that row) < 1433143955 583604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinions/ideas too? < 1433144135 648213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1433145109 776681 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433145216 168913 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433145406 686196 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433146550 464004 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433146668 61579 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1433147309 574375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1433147866 84360 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433148442 470511 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433148922 749379 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433151254 968191 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433151527 861555 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433153566 611775 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433153906 871919 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nozldyamwezawttq QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433153929 49977 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi PART :#esoteric < 1433154009 529422 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433154721 489895 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433154747 578397 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433154920 317463 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1433155085 755657 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433155101 592301 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433155184 244632 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433155186 491503 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1433155332 489041 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1433155341 857839 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433155341 857936 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433155341 857964 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433155768 27619 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433157520 191955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433157788 338952 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433158044 192077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GHOSTLY CHICKEN < 1433158079 317468 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433158434 202626 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectral chicken < 1433158446 943 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1433158510 502165 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, spectral is an inflection of two words < 1433159038 134457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433159143 594330 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn spectral < 1433159145 634920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "spectral" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1433159145 810660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spectral < 1433159145 810714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: of or relating to a spectrum; "spectral colors"; < 1433159145 810745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "spectral analysis" < 1433159145 810765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: resembling or characteristic of a phantom; "a ghostly face at < 1433159147 945311 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4 @more lines] < 1433159258 453207 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1433159262 450579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectrum and spectre? < 1433159421 731667 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only realised the more common meaning afterward < 1433159796 56176 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433160674 454800 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433160693 606076 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433160751 968699 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1433161435 488808 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433161720 452198 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433162469 990505 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433162505 972782 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433162560 208142 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433162720 75984 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1433162966 15481 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433162966 191258 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433163199 883367 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433163210 857721 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1433163475 201698 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433163614 422486 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433163957 194048 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433164485 703834 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1433164549 442284 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433164625 153825 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433165138 937757 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433165155 267804 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433165559 491084 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433165780 553740 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433165967 412490 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433166103 766159 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1433166590 124856 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433166604 765792 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433167127 783367 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433167779 918355 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433169609 281023 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433170117 142453 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5207303/ - well ain't this Finnish. < 1433170368 594645 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, another one: http://hantwolf.deviantart.com/art/Lion-of-Finland-272341242 < 1433170489 803064 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> furaffinity < 1433170491 796203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘furaffinity’ < 1433170493 486640 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that link is staying blue < 1433170502 949903 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol lambdabot < 1433170966 54160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1433170966 268116 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1433171158 653308 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433171702 626989 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's totally SFW. < 1433172436 807356 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433172603 716967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433173299 260581 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433173438 570914 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433173613 583793 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433174991 77446 :dario_!~dario@net-2-33-7-103.cust.dsl.teletu.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1433175253 260460 :dario_!~dario@net-2-33-7-103.cust.dsl.teletu.it QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1433175841 838404 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433175892 380494 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1433176189 968967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oren < 1433176190 623037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oren is Mon Jun 1 12:31:13 2015 < 1433176198 479402 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think it is morning for you < 1433176204 908128 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly not morning for me < 1433176298 800338 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that there could be up to ~20 humans in here, there is a fair chance that it is morning for somebody < 1433176320 725371 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://media.indiedb.com/cache/images/groups/1/1/84/thumb_620x2000/1187025029_Suffer_Not_the_Furry_to_Live_Desu.jpg < 1433176589 87101 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433176662 896749 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gxtbuqqyyqlgztml JOIN :#esoteric < 1433176992 855299 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433177361 521647 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, um...how much can you do with a 20x16 pixel grid again? < 1433177514 874086 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus a 12x2 char grid next to it < 1433177780 505572 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433177966 381312 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gisqzucjusksbvjm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433178427 945552 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433178688 634823 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433179016 538648 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433179026 795812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What character are builtin? < 1433179071 593533 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433179075 285524 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1433179181 868218 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433179192 779361 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433179228 988187 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433179253 601597 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433180286 351454 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1433180550 60057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433181053 514877 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vpcqvbtpqjbotwlg JOIN :#esoteric < 1433181473 912419 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433181477 626572 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I have written the line of code "hundred = (\f -> f . f . f . f) . (\f -> f . f . f . f . f) . (\f -> f . f . f . f . f)" < 1433181489 110345 :Elronnd|deminewt!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what language? < 1433181530 775847 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1433181552 133448 :hilquias`!~user@187.113.114.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433181597 501212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hundred = (\f -> f . f) . (\f -> f . f) . (\f -> f . f . f . f . f) . (\f -> f . f . f . f . f) hth < 1433181616 574233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not keen < 1433181659 188012 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433181708 92106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: (\f g -> f . f . g . g) (\f -> f . f) (\f -> f . f . f . f . f) < 1433181720 883704 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, oooh < 1433181739 804735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, it's olsner < 1433181852 565845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's me! < 1433182079 929742 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433182446 49319 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I recommend a loop instead < 1433182474 368329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1433182507 299506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred f z = iterate f z !! 100 < 1433182745 447271 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, that sounds lame < 1433182766 793804 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or construct a lambda containing a loop < 1433182770 902617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's definitely lame < 1433183915 406614 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that really a loop? < 1433183937 550536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a loop? < 1433183975 336223 :Elronnd|deminewt!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Repeat a series of steps until a bound has been reached < 1433183979 441372 :Elronnd|deminewt!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a condition is true < 1433184002 379633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not the boss of me < 1433184146 285742 :Elronnd|deminewt!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Dan_Maku < 1433184150 866078 :Dan_Maku!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd < 1433184283 62444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433184529 913276 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred = (\f -> (let q = (\x f n -> if n == 0 then x else (q (f x < 1433184553 778410 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred = (\f -> (let q = (\x f n -> if n == 0 then x else (q (f x) (n - 1)))) < 1433184582 760891 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea whether you can do anythign similar to the above < 1433184607 557851 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred = (\f x -> (let q = (\x f n -> if n == 0 then x else (q (f x) (n - 1))) x f 100) < 1433184753 586523 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred = (\f x -> (let q = (\x f n -> if n == 0 then x else (q (f x) (n - 1)))) x f 100) < 1433184984 750002 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone understand my haskell-racket pidgin thingy or should I figure out how to do this correctly < 1433185331 788709 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433185490 334697 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci is such a scow, why is its syntax different from a .has file < 1433185649 915921 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred :: (Int -> Int) -> (Int -> Int) --works fine in a file, not on the prompt. < 1433185672 288595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred = ... < 1433185717 127991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci's syntax is somewhat similar to a do block < 1433185720 432988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not exactly < 1433186253 932090 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that wasn't too difficult! < 1433186257 274443 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred f = (\x -> (let q = (\f x n -> if n == 0 then x else (q f (f x) (n - 1))) in q f x 100) ) < 1433186307 429474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for learning programming languages sort of by osmosis! < 1433186362 597464 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred f = (\x -> (let q = (\f x n -> if n == 0 then x else (q f (f x) (n - 1))) in q f x 100) ); hundred (\x -> x + 1) 6 < 1433186365 12164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:158: < 1433186365 187838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1433186385 642439 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred f = (\x -> (let q = (\f x n -> if n == 0 then x else (q f (f x) (n - 1))) in q f x 100) ) < 1433186387 328231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : : < 1433186387 504091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: ‘let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred f = (\x -... < 1433186396 733293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the point < 1433186420 304223 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a loop with tail recursion < 1433186421 311631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using general recursion and you're not reusing library functions and it's longer < 1433186453 163066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tail recursion is scow anyway < 1433186537 582335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let hundred :: (a -> a) -> a -> a; hundred f = (\x -> (let q = (\f x n -> if n == 0 then x else (q f (f x) (n - 1))) in q f x 100) ) in hundred (\x -> x + 1) 6 < 1433186539 191874 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 106 < 1433186561 920475 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. evereyone's probably seem this already, but monads in Factor: http://gitweb.factorcode.org/gitweb.cgi?p=factor;a=blob;f=extra/monads/monads.factor;hb=HEAD < 1433186667 127075 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433186861 310028 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433186978 270911 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor looks slightly insane. < 1433187057 532998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads moproblems < 1433187101 353933 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433187170 301876 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like someone sat down and said "Well, Forth is nice, but what if we grafted some Lisp in there too." < 1433187281 351301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way of explain use of monad is like with list comprehension. Lists you can easily explain fmap/return/join, and then you can see also bind is working, and then how it is working IO monads too. For example in Python you can have [(x, y) for x in [1,2,3] for y in [3,1,4] if x != y] and in Haskell do-notation you can write (do { x <- [1,2,3]; y <- [3,1,4]; guard (x /= y); return (x, y); }) and you come up the same answer. That is how you should exp < 1433187594 74228 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This is similar to one of my few light-bulb moments in monads so far: I write a pure-functional for-loop in Lisp, the end result of which is at least similar. < 1433187649 478095 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433187679 976786 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433187693 33356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do { x <- [1,2,3]; y <- [3,1,4]; guard (x /= y); return (x, y); } < 1433187695 111414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,1),(2,4),(3,1),(3,4)] < 1433187873 787274 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To help properly track optimized code without the output disabling the optimization: int traceprint(struct {char s[20]} X) __attribute__ ((const)) {puts(X.s);} < 1433187918 470668 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically it's a print function that pretends it's pure < 1433187930 354462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1433187959 832091 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To help properly track optimized code without the output disabling the optimization: int traceprint(struct {char s[20]} X) __attribute__ ((const)) {puts(X.s); return 0;} < 1433187966 772383 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1433188103 434322 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This helps when optimized code assumes that it can call a function less times than as written, but you're still trying to trace a bug. Adding a puts("crap"); would cause GCC to disable the optimization because now the number of times the function is called matters. < 1433188172 153456 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn debugger < 1433188173 588395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "debugger" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1433188173 764243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :debugger < 1433188173 764329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a program that helps in locating and correcting programming < 1433188173 764354 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : errors < 1433188249 909780 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: That sort of thing seems to be a semi-common idiom in Clojure when dealing with certain things like database inserts. < 1433188298 877523 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Create a local value, insert it in the db, then return the same, and then you can even thus use it in place somewhere else where you'd otherwise just use the value. < 1433188394 727976 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433188791 71307 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433189090 753703 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433190313 697806 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433191126 639646 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gxtbuqqyyqlgztml QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433192268 879066 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :inspired < 1433192294 812769 :inspired!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1433192694 850957 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433193055 838250 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-210-255.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433193195 250914 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-210-255.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433194019 577341 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433194318 348360 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jrarseykypofvsbq JOIN :#esoteric < 1433194480 798394 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433194669 619118 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433194698 22209 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433195155 785371 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433195377 132902 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :|\_|\ < 1433195465 613894 :|\_|\!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd < 1433195837 514423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433196911 280015 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I ever mentioned my "JIT operating system" idea? < 1433196929 293847 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like it could potentially be a really good idea, so I don't know why it hasn't been tried yet. < 1433196958 624115 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an operating system where all executable code, with some exceptions, is stored in the form of some intermediate bytecode instead of machine code. < 1433197017 788768 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever you run a program, the OS runs the bytecode using JIT compilation. < 1433197103 108949 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The benefit I see is that CPU-based security and separation measures are no longer necessary. < 1433197128 523126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the way Android was, before the latest runtime. < 1433197131 824387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's been done, at least in almost the same way < 1433197145 584356 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs can all run in the same address space, because the bytecode makes it impossible for one program to try to access another program's data. < 1433197155 189734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has also described that. < 1433197182 171714 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433197228 542016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i thought of almost that back in the early '90s hth < 1433197257 727337 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433197259 929541 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what inferno is? < 1433197271 753497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although in Android's case that's not really the security model, and there's quite a lot of native code around, and anyway the current runtime is ahead-of-time compilation.) < 1433197280 952747 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if all userspace code is run in a VM, you may want to isolate your VM instances because you will put bugs in it < 1433197352 67133 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433197382 409364 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433197385 572997 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433197387 213346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and iSeries (AS/400) does something like that since the 80s < 1433197390 334324 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1433197394 670718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read about Inferno before. < 1433197395 599704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think elliott's design also had no distinction between "user mode" and "kernel mode", because it's also equally useless, if you assume no bugs. < 1433197501 276196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Spectral chicken <-- UNITARY CHICKEN < 1433197530 352827 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sweet, a training round happened. < 1433197553 156845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way linear algebrists keep talking about spectral things always confuses me. < 1433197573 262133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with all this is that doing it properly really requires proof verification all the way down to circuit level < 1433197573 465325 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this rate, I should have a neural net in 300,000 seconds. < 1433197605 860748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's less than 100 hours! < 1433197612 352312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want the OS to be safe even with drivers, you need specifications of physical devices < 1433197614 393880 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hermitian chicken < 1433197614 569665 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433197628 38238 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1433197636 54448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least that's part of what i thought, back in the '90s) < 1433197638 48807 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433197641 867210 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, that's something I don't want to attempt. < 1433197647 638087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What sort of spectral things? < 1433197692 900421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The spectral theorem, mainly. < 1433197704 693492 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually gate level verification is more mature than software, if anything < 1433197727 111449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm conditioned to think of, like, frequencies, man, when someone mentions a spectrum.) < 1433197741 667858 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably because Intel knows, from experience, that it's very expensive to hotfix gates.) < 1433197743 30442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And not about eigenvalues.) < 1433197799 501680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: spectral clustering. < 1433197819 170842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : At this rate, I should have a neural net in 300,000 seconds. <-- i sense determination here < 1433197841 106604 :hilquias`!~user@187.113.114.254 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433197895 206685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's an audio-related paper that also involves spectral clustering (because it's used in image processing, and there is nothing they can possess which speech people cannot take away, to quote that movie). < 1433197912 299128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could have invented spectral sequences hth < 1433197935 358263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: RUN, RUN AWAY < 1433197950 584429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's like "wait, is that just garden variety clustering with spectral features or spectral clustering of something else". < 1433198034 513811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jmlr.org/papers/volume7/bach06b/bach06b.pdf <- that seems to be segmenting a spectro[1]gram with spectral[2] clustering. < 1433198049 255978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: I couldn't bother to actually read it.) < 1433198258 444746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :going by the contents of http://www.ams.org/notices/200601/fea-chow.pdf i probably couldn't have invented spectral sequences < 1433198313 601835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot quite remember whether he ever understood what spectral sequences are. < 1433198321 596410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's like the "only you can prevent forest fires", which most people also cannot do. < 1433198326 487148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm pretty sure i couldn't have invented them. < 1433198362 196079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm pretty sure shachaf is alluding to the "you could have invented monads" blog post < 1433198376 307072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is rather more reasonable.) < 1433198404 353646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm alluding to http://www.ams.org/notices/200601/fea-chow.pdf hth < 1433198405 491514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The title of the thing he linked is "You Could Have Invented Spectral Sequences", though. < 1433198409 899582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe it's not alluding < 1433198432 343188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's printed in an AMS journal, it must be true. < 1433198438 471104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe they are alluding, then. < 1433198455 392079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dan piponi was alluding to the article i linked < 1433198482 126329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not related, but something that got a chuckle out of me: tdwtf's "Error'd" had this: [[ For those accounts with no security question, one has automatically been assigned. If prompted, the security question is: "What was the color of your first car?" The answer is: car. ]] < 1433198486 158165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice because it's arguably kind of a tautology: all cars are car-coloured. < 1433198501 516253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.ezyang.com/2012/02/anatomy-of-you-could-have-invented/#comment-3465 < 1433198542 420024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shocking < 1433198556 95814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe i missed something < 1433198785 348849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have invented spectral hugs < 1433198832 694071 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have invented profunctors < 1433198840 16513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433198841 642491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did hth < 1433198846 813808 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1433199056 877605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :h|!oq !y < 1433199431 236162 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_:D < 1433199490 968134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait xsampa? < 1433199502 670031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xsampa. < 1433199514 119403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never learned that. < 1433199524 915778 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used the trusty table on wikipédia. < 1433199525 122447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wasn't using xsampa hth < 1433199538 44256 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. what was it then twh? < 1433199671 554081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests turning your monitor upside down hth hth < 1433199767 625643 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1433199781 322014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433199792 304486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid script < 1433199796 45449 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one impressive helloily. < 1433199820 874900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look at this http://blog.ezyang.com/2014/07/type-classes-confluence-coherence-global-uniqueness/ it is similar to thing I have complained about too. My opinion is that the definition of test in D.hs should be a type mismatch error. This would require changing the definition of Set though, as well as fixing Haskell to allow the new definition to work properly. < 1433199849 59274 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungy. time to hunt for poutine. < 1433199853 966733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HADOPELAGIC CHICKEN < 1433199882 98191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily what do you think of smoke's poutinerie twh < 1433199882 273952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433199902 671669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition need to indicate that the type (Set x) depends on (Ord x) therefore it work. < 1433199939 26834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you should be able to specify which instances you would want to import too. < 1433199958 974790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should turn the script off. hope that helps. < 1433200035 497406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, hang on < 1433200035 779837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, in such example as given then specifying the type (Set U) in D.hs at all should be error because it is ambiguous which type you mean. < 1433200070 947841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :To define the n-sphere in hott you have to define all of its higher homotopies, right? < 1433200094 713835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But higher homotopy of the n-sphere is a notoriously hard open problem, so how the hell could you even do that? < 1433200171 451043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another problem is that some packages define instances which are wrong and then you cannot define the correct one! < 1433200203 987336 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433200284 479761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily NOOO don't leave i cannot interpret your xsampa even with wikipedia :( < 1433200284 691856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433200512 895475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 0~ just doesn't fit any of the tables < 1433200672 848740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily My two theories are: (1) you're trying to write bonsoerjan but have no idea what the phonetic symbols mean (2) you're actually using some african click language with a slight misprint on the 0 < 1433200673 64074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433201235 959642 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433201350 95803 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is EXCESSIVELY rainy here < 1433201414 449199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1433201414 841902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 012250Z 25008KT 9999 FEW040 BKN060 08/03 Q1000 RMK WIND 670FT 25010KT < 1433201427 929134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if i knew which part was rain < 1433201432 784483 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the first training batch took 300 seconds, but the next one took 855, and the next one 1196, and the next one 1405. < 1433201453 663111 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1433201453 862776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 012300Z 14007KT 15SM SCT055 BKN065 OVC220 13/08 A3020 RMK SC3SC4CI1 SLP229 < 1433201473 553903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith(-)`ap`tail$[300,855,1196,1405] < 1433201475 355551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-555,-341,-209] < 1433201480 59401 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only see the OVC220 \ < 1433201503 303250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith(-)`ap`tail$zipWith(-)`ap`tail$[300,855,1196,1405] < 1433201504 651600 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1433201504 861188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 012320Z AUTO 22005KT 9999 NCD 07/03 Q1012 < 1433201505 162501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-214,-132] < 1433201522 17028 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' zip`ap`tail < 1433201533 916600 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote zip` < 1433201534 92179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksilver says: zip`ap`tail - the Aztec god of consecutive numbers < 1433201550 313151 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x . x < 1433201550 488768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :join (.) < 1433201557 860840 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip ap ta eel < 1433201634 229282 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, do you have a script that randomly appends " hth" to your messages? < 1433201641 227455 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a version of unrnfc that only reads the file through once < 1433201644 467257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl join id (join id) < 1433201644 642815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :join id (join id) < 1433201653 974708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no it removes it hth < 1433201656 165758 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl join id (join id) < 1433201656 341509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f -> (\ a -> a) f f) (\ h -> (\ b -> b) h h) < 1433201677 27596 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1433201699 206193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they fixed that bug < 1433201709 759581 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bug was that? < 1433201768 663054 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: defining the n-sphere in HoTT is quite easy. < 1433201801 279265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it just hard to calculate what \Omega_n actually is? < 1433201812 365494 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what \Omega is. < 1433201822 15830 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what a capital omega represents. < 1433201842 727053 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a big sphere (written like Haskell): < 1433201842 902697 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: in what? algo anylyss or something else? < 1433201847 239700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: @pl join id (join id) used to loop < 1433201880 94835 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data BigSphere where Base :: BigSphere; Surf :: Refl (Refl (Refl (Refl Base))) = Refl (Refl (Refl (Refl Base))) < 1433201883 303104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan *is* a script that randomly appends " hth" to his messages < 1433201891 824920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap id id (ap id id) < 1433201894 857906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1433201895 33532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1433201899 264043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's the one < 1433201904 71989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1433201910 153896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1433201910 367941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1433201912 924568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, capital omega is the group of loops with a given basepoint < 1433201917 7679 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hastebin.com/zoyejekeyu.cpp < 1433201918 515034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think_ < 1433201932 787161 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think it is just hard to calculate what that is. < 1433201934 737355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's \pi_n except more general or something < 1433201951 926601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe if you resume it one more time you'll get something < 1433201960 953741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1433201973 516352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1433201973 692006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1433201979 407404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope hth < 1433201988 836824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1433202009 571645 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht < 1433202034 848659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tope his telps < 1433202067 554179 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it implements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_pair_encoding < 1433202507 66201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category-helpdesk < 1433202507 997590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category-helpdesk is a helpdesk with identity and composition. This channel isn't it. < 1433202510 412686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this all about < 1433202533 108576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` N=$(find wisdom -type f | wc -l); F="$(find wisdom -type f | head -n $((RANDOM % N)) | tail -n1)"; E="${F#wisdom/}"; echo "$E"; \? "$E" < 1433202534 486991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right \ Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1433202541 888155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, ask in the category helpdesk < 1433202555 686295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` N=$(find wisdom -type f | wc -l); F="$(find wisdom -type f | head -n $((RANDOM % N)) | tail -n1)"; E="${F#wisdom/}"; echo "$E"; \? "$E" < 1433202556 870867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque \ Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque) < 1433202743 635633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` N=$(find wisdom -type f | wc -l); F="$(find wisdom -type f | head -n $((RANDOM % N)) | tail -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F" < 1433202744 760773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner/olsner seems to exist at least. He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines. < 1433202763 677249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'N=$(find wisdom -type f | wc -l); F="$(find wisdom -type f | head -n $((RANDOM % N)) | tail -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F"' > bin/wisdom; chmod +x bin/wisdom < 1433202767 476997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433202804 24226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433202804 483976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433202804 716583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433202805 77795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433202806 120965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433202807 723496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin/copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1433202808 282184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20/itidus20's entry has been censored. < 1433202808 690530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat/Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1433202808 866416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ø/Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug < 1433202808 866466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :résumé/résumé is a French summary. Not a curriculum vitæ. < 1433202811 116011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433202813 482754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many nicks < 1433202823 892962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: sorry about that hth < 1433202940 370520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many nicks on the dance floor < 1433202954 711133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happened to itidus20's entry < 1433202963 547086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been censored < 1433202982 241259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, slashlearn isn't compatible with entries that are in subdirectories < 1433202984 206324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/iti* < 1433202986 468415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/itidus19 \ wisdom/itidus20 \ wisdom/itidus21 < 1433202994 875943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus19 < 1433202995 839746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly < 1433202997 195101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus21 < 1433203000 527349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 just made some instant coffee. < 1433203003 194496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this will generate invalid output for them < 1433203034 411963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom_hoover < 1433203035 411811 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. < 1433203053 218077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1433203054 929598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's why you were asking about homotopies < 1433203156 631289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433203157 656169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thyme/Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1433203213 707141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep hyme wisdom/* < 1433203217 246054 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/thyme:Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1433203217 421889 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1433203217 597537 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                o/`¯º < 1433203227 39225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1433203239 192377 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433203252 29362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eep < 1433203426 493165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ghci is such a scow, why is its syntax different from a .has file <-- imo, because you cannot unambiguously parse a line that might be either an expression or the start of a definition. < 1433203468 170697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "x = 5" is unambiguous < 1433203489 998135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but that's not the only legal form of first line of a definition < 1433203495 500194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1433203497 521074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : = 5 < 1433203500 124170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you required all of them to be on one line < 1433203501 537995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is just as legal < 1433203505 692102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiline definitions are a different issue < 1433203520 892366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now that "data T ..." is legal, i don't see why "x = 5" shouldn't be < 1433203524 838618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but then you'd still have people complaining that they couldn't paste .hs files directly into ghci < 1433203533 889437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can, with :{ < 1433203539 371918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which already exists for multiline definitions < 1433203557 368263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you probably still couldn't because .hs files can be out of order and that's asking a bit much < 1433203564 290429 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433203567 623792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i mean "newbies", aka the people you're trying to avoid having to explain this to - replacing it with having to explain :{ instead is useless. < 1433203580 443517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but :{ is a p. good smiley face < 1433203582 121335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's that, the mustachioed guy operator? < 1433203587 129256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a big moustache or what? < 1433203593 803547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't even think of the out of order thig. < 1433203595 871437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing. < 1433203600 864718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway it's not about explaining things, it's about using it myself hth < 1433203637 599852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: anyway, they could probably fix it so some more cases worked out of the box, but having "typing the contents of a .hs file into ghci always works" work is hopeless. < 1433203674 724896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{ \ x :: Int \ print 1 \ x = 2 \ :} < 1433203688 874211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the recent reddit discussion i saw, it's somewhat likely that they'll try to improve it soon < 1433203696 56145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1433203713 528742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i try keeping up with reddit.com/r/haskell < 1433203724 197013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped after a long streak of scow < 1433203738 173099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to read _every_ post < 1433203741 433321 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1433203744 834572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like i do < 1433203787 646809 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur[not-dot-ne < 1433203793 763208 :augur[not-dot-ne!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur[notdotnet] < 1433203910 688889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although no one in the reddit discussion pointed out the obvious ambiguities, if i hadn't been several days late to read it i might have < 1433203917 35996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i filed a bunch of filler ghci bugs a while ago but i forgot i was going to mention that one < 1433203930 156203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means it's only obvious to me, i guess) < 1433203941 211890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's so obvious that no one else found it necessary to mention hth < 1433203955 366276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MUST BE IT < 1433203960 113810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "filler" bug is one whose bug number is slightly below #10000 < 1433203968 604443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1433203991 331629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does that mean i should look at #9999 and down to see your work < 1433203996 576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way it's a shame bug #10000 was a duplicate < 1433204009 920794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it deserved all the discussion from #9858 < 1433204012 116140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, otoh it brought so much back into life < 1433204029 205499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you notice they didn't manage to fix it completely in 7.10.1 < 1433204062 307112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's missing? < 1433204073 60583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped paying attention sometime after i became famous hth < 1433204105 328704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the (,) constraint vs. * ambiguity, mainly < 1433204120 939660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, () and => vs. -> was the exploit < 1433204121 581405 :augur[notdotnet]!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1433204137 990813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1433204153 914228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll just rely on SafeHaskell from now on to prevent people from deleting my files < 1433204236 397334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the tuple constraints thing was changed after 7.10 was released < 1433204347 750762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i said! < 1433204362 890259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1433204374 394702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remembered that it happened, just not the timeline < 1433204389 156396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also after that they've changed it into an actual class < 1433204516 621855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9995 i'm with #2 < 1433204535 970551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433204824 622674 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433204851 303710 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1433204965 204255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's a loop with tail recursion <-- what shachaf is trying to imply is that haskell's laziness means tail recursion is often not an improvement, and this is one of those cases. < 1433204982 984730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't trying to imply that but i did think it < 1433205025 11311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when tail recursion _is_ an improvement, you often need explicit strictness annotation to make it so. < 1433205043 775951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can use implicit strictness annotation hth < 1433205185 56585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205186 156483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mockingbird/mockingbird is watching you.. closely! Is it mocking you? Probably. < 1433205227 827004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to swat mockingbird but misses -----### < 1433205242 943310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe `? should give a random wisdom when run with no arguments < 1433205252 58688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433205252 965642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433205262 759827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible < 1433205279 52334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205280 144355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans/fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1433205299 847017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205300 997795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainty/We don't know what certainty is for sure, but at least it isn't a functor. < 1433205481 612588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forty < 1433205482 545342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1433205486 990284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1433205487 967862 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1433205500 402375 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433205503 320674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that a complete list? < 1433205510 635898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but of course < 1433205547 897700 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433205653 158847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205654 108868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205657 183587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205657 960250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205660 496702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433205664 848099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205665 823405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205691 900625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wlcom < 1433205693 205059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! This is a chat about unusual programming tools. For additional info, visit our wiki: . (For unusual things of a contrasting sort, try http://bit.ly/19k9nf8.) < 1433206165 905337 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433206166 80889 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208379 682633 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenir < 1433208380 308406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenir: not found < 1433208387 306217 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenida < 1433208388 30979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenida: not found < 1433208419 338304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1433208420 346851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1433208431 224404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenu < 1433208432 36872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenu: not found < 1433208442 563674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no french < 1433208446 901494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bienvenu < 1433208447 632139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bienvenu? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433208525 945041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1433208526 859585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433208546 101891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/bienvenido < 1433208546 823150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/bienvenido: No such file or directory < 1433208554 559148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/`welcome.es < 1433208555 261104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1433208559 415057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/welcome.es < 1433208563 323498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433208569 854318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1433208570 886476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1433208609 909690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/welcome* < 1433208610 922213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome \ wisdom/welcome.bork \ wisdom/welcome.es \ wisdom/welcome.fi < 1433208880 926492 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208881 102171 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ajgpeeoktjprqltt QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208882 642190 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vavxmqiaodhvgmkv QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433209157 2081 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209309 986240 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209383 72256 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433209407 193913 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The morris worm from 1987 or 88 what was it < 1433209420 163101 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabucgchkbjuwbwd JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209451 938782 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kboskxlswnopyirn JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209483 832446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with the morris dance < 1433209566 288666 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to replicate it < 1433209613 156338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good at replicating itself hth < 1433209857 783958 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1433209867 325293 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its on a floppy disk in a meusum < 1433209882 113817 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Museum < 1433209892 306148 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't with that word < 1433210339 248179 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me an alternitave language that can make a site fully functionable without the usage of javascript but can make the same style and quality of a java run site < 1433210590 861480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you confusing java and javascript, they are completely different. < 1433210610 642156 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1433210617 95293 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java script run site < 1433210666 153835 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they are different I just can't word atm < 1433210694 862766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of languages could work in principle but they have the problem that _your site_ doesn't get to decide what user's _browsers_ support, and javascript is the only thing that works widely without users installing anything extra these days. < 1433210704 451225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*users' < 1433210722 918041 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :God < 1433210724 776415 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1433210749 550795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there are quite a lot of languages that can be _compiled_ to javascript. < 1433210763 593631 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everything with javascript, I want more versitile sites < 1433210829 527355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because javascript was what got improved upon to fix the even more horrible mess that existed before. < 1433210881 693413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :java btw tried to be it, but failed. < 1433210916 804485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should note that he isn't a web developer so may be missing something. < 1433210931 676617 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1433211039 285554 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I forgot Oerjan is in his 40's he was in the nightmare of the early internet < 1433211093 443292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't much of a nightmare for me, but then i didn't have to program it. < 1433211146 569327 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha what do you mean program it < 1433211175 247196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't have to try to make fancy websites < 1433211179 546051 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1433211214 187676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own website (hideously out-of-date, i seem to just drop in new files and link them from the wiki these days) doesn't even have CSS. < 1433211268 707693 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I get strong nostalgia when I think of the 1950's-1990's even though I'm a young < 1433211302 416289 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe its because of all the history I learn on a day to day basis < 1433211304 900685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly reincarnation hth < 1433212551 385862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume that nvg.org is Taneb's domain < 1433212569 914238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly, no < 1433212589 350249 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's oerjans site < 1433212615 198950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it elliott's, a rabbi's, Mark Zuckerberg's, or James Bond's? < 1433212624 666760 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get a personal site, everyone seems to have one < 1433212635 290717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: oerjan.nvg.org < 1433212666 507269 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it in norwegion < 1433212671 807229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433212674 396319 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433212679 225977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a fairly impersonal site < 1433212738 781656 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you played Nomic :0 < 1433212981 47799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make webpages and stuff even just with HTML you don't need JavaScripts. If you use server codes then you can use whatever programming language you want, Javascript if you like it, or C, or PHP, or whatever else < 1433213026 888490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want interactive with server codes you can also make telnet protocol or SSH protocol < 1433213056 444302 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol telnet that sounds cool. < 1433213064 441671 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's telnet < 1433213112 219509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interactive internet protocol. Whatever it receive it will do by the terminal emulator (usually VT100 or related), and when you push key it send. < 1433213113 336101 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet is pretty much just a two-way tcp connection to whatever program is on the other end < 1433213177 906764 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unencrypted, so it can easily be spoofed, spied on etc. which is why people nowadays generally use ssh < 1433213224 899898 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. when you send a password to login over a telnet connection, the password is sent as plain text < 1433213252 521401 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if someone is capturing your packets, now they know your password < 1433213257 11450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH is more secure; it support not only login by password but also you can do authentication by keys too, and some other security features < 1433213326 712957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing of SSH is you can do X forwarding which allow to make GUI, but then you need X if you want to be able to access the GUI. I do not recommend that if a services is made on internet you use SSH, that you require X so you should provide text/command-line mode too whether or not the GUI is provided. < 1433213388 491336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use limited codes compatible with VT100/ANSI/xterm if possible since subset of those are the most portable terminal codes. < 1433213446 404383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, some servers also provide option for different terminal types, or you can check the client's terminal type string to see what it identifies itself as, or do both) < 1433213494 719658 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433213758 861262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet *over SSL* is reasonably secure though. < 1433213783 720154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And (though I don't know if anyone does this) you could even use client certs instead of passwords with it. < 1433213804 368432 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but yes, SSH is much more convenient for this. Because seriously, who does Telnet over SSL other than IBM?) < 1433214509 367675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet is also a simpler protocol. But, if you want security then use SSH < 1433214659 792437 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just reaalized, that instead of running dwarf fortress over X tunneling, I can set it to text display! < 1433214765 435787 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a strange concept < 1433214783 772031 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does it have a text display? Do you have a cp437 terminal?) < 1433214873 49684 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433217456 905238 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433218018 713511 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433218031 721439 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433218031 897148 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1433218188 301066 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna fork the 4FK-Based Interpreted Language for the Arduino called Octopus into both Squid and Cuttlefish over the course of a few days < 1433218230 124472 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Development on Octopus will continue as long as 4FK is being developed by me < 1433218339 466791 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433218611 386010 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433218651 972850 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I have a cp437 compatible font (Liberation Mono) < 1433218659 953216 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433218800 775733 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433219079 21468 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, but tis font sucks. getting a better one < 1433219145 724625 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1433219204 266963 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just lost internet < 1433219236 931401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/backup/pc_character_set.chr < 1433219241 281883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a better font < 1433219277 808963 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Lyka < 1433219305 133291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433219371 222443 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, able to connect to router < 1433219399 575891 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was typing something about 4FK Octopus < 1433219415 563248 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still making an AI for tarballs < 1433219438 133144 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :router says Internet is down < 1433219448 507830 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn quantum physics < 1433219462 72940 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't see your internet you don't have internet < 1433219509 647921 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does one pronounce router as rooter or r- OW- ter < 1433219521 603883 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1433219529 679532 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433219598 326515 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433219638 647932 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433219686 327417 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna see the current command list for 4FK Octopus? < 1433219699 644808 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a bot < 1433219701 210302 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1433219712 354130 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433219715 312472 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1433219731 125348 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's an arduino sketch < 1433219738 856592 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okey < 1433219751 551456 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4FK == Fourfuck < 1433219761 768371 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++++[>++>+++>++++>+++++>++++++>+++++++>++++++++>+++++++++>++++++++++<<<<<<<<<-]++++++++++++>>>>>>----.>>>---.--.<----.<<<<<<----.>>>>>>>+++++.<<<<<-.<<.>>>>>>>+.<<<<<<<.>>++..<<.>+. < 1433219761 963629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Push x; y == 1 < 1433219765 10951 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433219772 677168 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's fourfuck tho < 1433219788 716676 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds dirty < 1433219802 488384 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :A former attempt at an esolang < 1433219839 840877 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain what it does < 1433219856 819547 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds lik bf with only 4 commands? < 1433219887 474596 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1433219888 999236 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, bf with four-letter commands < 1433219900 454535 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on a phone < 1433219903 633295 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds very detering < 1433219920 396937 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you are, why? I'm also on a phone < 1433219934 181724 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Internet is down < 1433219953 763389 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you unplugged it and plugged it back in < 1433219989 923789 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care enough < 1433220020 673879 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, brb < 1433220029 192308 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Determining where to put certain strings at random intervels into a stack is very weird < 1433220063 790139 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have cable phone < 1433220078 60036 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't risk losing that < 1433220083 202325 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you showing us again¿ < 1433220104 586548 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433220114 735692 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fourfuck thing < 1433220126 655044 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1433220166 473895 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me ssh into my web server, where I was in the process of copying the files there < 1433220169 669327 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433220216 434435 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octopus (4FK+LCD1602 < 1433220221 122041 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433220234 191115 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433220257 922114 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat QUIT :Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.20 < 1433220261 995781 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433220276 601607 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿¿¿ < 1433220297 153108 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening? < 1433220463 560126 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently someone converted all the DF tilesets to ttf fonts. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=1922 < 1433220529 877783 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433220550 560126 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to sif.lesidhetree.com < 1433220638 495731 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEROY JEEEENKIIINS < 1433220641 292982 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways < 1433220659 800494 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice set of brainfuck four king < 1433220683 358774 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The connection was refused < 1433220684 199583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me to see the .txt file when you are completely finish with it; right now I am not interest to loo at right now < 1433220764 290641 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what oren < 1433220827 453384 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet ssh < 1433220837 183940 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :But didn't you say telnet is unsafe < 1433220854 522069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet does not have security. < 1433220858 599630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH does. < 1433220870 521807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean telnet is unsafe < 1433220891 211185 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/i9hMA.png < 1433220913 547484 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :So telnet is crap security wise but ssh helps < 1433220930 892107 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/6apsrm5ej/ <-- playing DF over ssh & GNU screen! < 1433220967 263886 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coonection was refused when trying to go to sif.lesidhetree.com < 1433220970 934591 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :;0 < 1433220997 923675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Telnet, like HTTP and Gopher and SMTP and IRC and so on, is not a secure protocol; this means that data is not encrypted. SSH encrypts the data and has other security features, in order to improve the security. < 1433221000 353181 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? why? < 1433221027 446819 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea? < 1433221052 153344 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433221060 367474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I mispelled it that's why < 1433221066 375274 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine for me < 1433221066 874476 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren, its because of those amazing unheard if dog breeds < 1433221093 615670 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/of < 1433221150 425806 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka is it complete < 1433221172 541329 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433221182 394105 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowhere near complete < 1433221218 792199 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what are you doing here?! Go complete it < 1433221230 655297 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :major changes may have to happen for it to work with cuttlefish < 1433221251 918405 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a shipment of parts < 1433221271 491021 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrives wednesday < 1433221271 666731 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me about cuttle and shell fish later < 1433221275 93012 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1433221634 916192 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish and calamari < 1433221726 551298 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, 4FK now has nothing in common with bf < 1433221751 570263 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :change I have to make < 1433221754 331590 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can dee that < 1433221759 838388 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :See* < 1433221808 285255 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I never updated the wiki < 1433221845 334389 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it's less esolang and more machine code < 1433221858 74181 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hh < 1433221876 147032 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433222263 202026 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433222283 913148 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433222291 409018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it say "error: 'Sample' has no member named 'data'" even though it does have that member? (I get the same error for all of the other members) < 1433222338 774950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I figured out now < 1433224388 172002 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433224578 861533 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433225097 384399 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433225134 703005 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433225138 204328 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433226894 533451 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433227271 529498 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433230079 451470 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433231725 379937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1433233734 459519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/akjGQLo.png < 1433233752 553974 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433233916 252896 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433233955 190463 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different one I gave compat mode, and it bluescreened me < 1433234110 620853 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433234265 675856 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433234992 116765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433235300 635495 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my pal fungot? < 1433235423 780923 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need his opinion on the implication of lisp-like languages in the modern world on frequency of parentheses in text messages on social networks from people that are married to computer linguists. < 1433235660 354734 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, Dwarf fortress fonts make text very compact on screen < 1433235944 700574 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433235950 835480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: There. < 1433235982 168265 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your opinion on the implication of lisp-like languages in the modern world on frequency of parentheses in text messages on social networks from people that are married to computer linguists. < 1433235982 383941 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: neilv what portion of the package that the macro then < 1433236294 804954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433236295 20012 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433236317 553406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1433236317 729059 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1433236329 388207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did you or didn't you? < 1433236329 869611 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: attached you will find that the same i/ ii kay as mentioned on a voicemail i left you on thursday on the robert trent, f) class 2002-04 meeting times: how democrats love the new source review which requires the use of the commission < 1433236623 128375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your favorite Burlesque program? < 1433236623 343888 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it is the only two, we are to stress on the household and the next few years.??) < 1433236629 949542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is ln)XXtp)><)F:)<]u[/v\[ < 1433236876 778094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it however only really works if and only if one and exactly one permutation is missing < 1433236993 756742 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name NICK :APic < 1433237006 772859 :APic!apic@apic.name NICK :APic\splat < 1433237748 332797 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433239280 955265 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:523:5d01:6004:f14:f0f8:af4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433240779 446076 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433242433 942991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433243018 96116 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433243321 858636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Esowiki201529A14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43129&oldid=42826 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+31) 10/* base 7 system */ new section < 1433244130 635581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CYCLICAL CHICKEN < 1433246006 660979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433246922 651692 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433248647 120372 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433248980 518777 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1433249348 322632 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433249372 903195 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433249839 460500 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250144 603487 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250213 554710 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250680 598381 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433252009 418149 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433252491 982990 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433253201 427714 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433254024 375870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't you hate people that don't use -Wall -Werror --std=c89 -pedantic? < 1433254024 588003 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: public opinion of the in air of discontent is reflecting on a couple of years." bc: sheila a knudsen in ena had is whether it will/ hou/ ect on 10/ 10. < 1433254045 467153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433254090 909401 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :C89? What is this, 1989? < 1433254169 964017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433254217 185051 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-std=c11 -Weverything -Werror < 1433254226 48231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Whatever < 1433254237 245162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warns for every occurrence of the xor operator. < 1433254275 960772 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Whenever < 1433254280 706038 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warns for every occurrence of chickens. < 1433254444 652815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no. But I hate the people that try to claim that by using a couple of compiler switches like that they have magically proved that their program is standards compliant. < 1433254479 10542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that would depend on how good the compiler is at rejecting non standard compliant programs < 1433254494 830228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at detecting UB < 1433254500 707722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: and solving the halting problem < 1433254518 536650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other impossible things < 1433254555 111642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the halting problem? < 1433254594 724911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of runtime overflows? < 1433254615 91121 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compiler could just assume that every addition overflows :) < 1433254634 111597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and require you to do bounds checking before every one of them. < 1433254644 627871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: more for using dangling pointers < 1433254656 32333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, overflows too if you wish < 1433254694 282074 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1433254704 252291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc surely could employ some of the stuff the rust compiler does :) < 1433254733 241675 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1433254734 695610 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1433254758 97623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you could interpret most of the stuff in some more well-behaved programs for a particular run, but you can't check for all input, < 1433254776 398604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even for a fixed input, the program could run for riddiculously long time so you can't run it to completion in practice, < 1433254798 374926 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was refering to doing more strict compile-time analytics. < 1433254804 127488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't check if it will dereference a dangling pointer like 2**2**100 seconds later. < 1433254833 379829 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that doesn't really work well with C. < 1433254855 625729 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like seeing compiler warnings < 1433254864 809367 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems suspicious :) < 1433254871 887406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433255149 445215 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255431 216253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Teightath/blob/master/src/types.c#L42 <- I'd whish gcc would produce a warning for these things as well < 1433255615 716475 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes this means I'm back in the esolang business :) < 1433255644 818421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm intending on writing a GolfVM in the usual VM style < 1433255653 698325 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not relying on too much runtime dynamic < 1433255665 489450 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meaning no eval capabilities and such) < 1433255701 828587 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255743 917944 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433255926 209381 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255940 541938 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433256027 786941 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433256075 644894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43130&oldid=43063 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+813) 10A little update...more coming very soon. < 1433256175 508783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43131&oldid=43051 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+375) 10added a little disclaimer < 1433257203 286389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43132&oldid=43130 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+66) 10/* Operators */ Edited some stuff < 1433257308 402559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257329 848198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43133&oldid=43132 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (-232) 10/* Example programs */ < 1433257392 218635 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433257405 911331 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257555 274194 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257575 272998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43134&oldid=43133 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (-727) 10Removed a few sections I felt couldn't be filled in yet. < 1433257732 77186 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433257777 150595 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine...edited th wiki < 1433258185 376709 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433258205 445817 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I was wondering if you know of any esoteric programming tools < 1433258211 419787 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like IDES, etc < 1433258729 880136 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433258931 471758 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433259234 671550 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1433260464 964125 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433260533 367196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 989 < 1433260548 887943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 989: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1433260756 498020 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433260757 72804 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433260763 780544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally connected < 1433261191 680559 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1433261341 633148 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433261913 8194 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433263651 52864 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433264364 761873 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vpcqvbtpqjbotwlg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433264730 86805 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433264836 827490 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433264967 613278 :wundo!~textual@drupal.org/user/25523/view JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265355 536272 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265355 712095 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1433265355 712207 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265526 833427 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265540 884875 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433265765 528834 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265800 354711 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433265872 990718 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265906 339924 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266007 717478 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266081 807145 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266197 316560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433266202 509527 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266227 314592 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266315 229556 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266342 696970 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433268128 219441 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:523:5d01:6004:f14:f0f8:af4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433268147 629919 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433269062 276374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433269653 280745 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433269979 368486 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, did the C standards people know they were asking the compiler to solve the halting problem? < 1433270029 115692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't Turing-complete, so probably not. < 1433270087 810357 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is not infinitly extendable? < 1433270096 249898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it can be, nothing in the definition of files prevents them being infinitely long < 1433270099 37373 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitely i meant. < 1433270101 549751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the only sticking point < 1433270108 186616 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 wins. < 1433270113 965686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. If C is compiled for a computer with 64K ram, could a modern computer detect all cases of overflow? < 1433270147 861939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought the C99 definition of files didn't allow for infinitely long files. < 1433270162 141358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can always get the current position. < 1433270167 160318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a file position's an opaque object, though < 1433270177 697664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that only places a limit on how many times you can request the file position < 1433270181 45584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it require off_t to be an integer of some kind? < 1433270184 327799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it still has to fit in memory. < 1433270197 331442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off_t is a struct on some systems, I think < 1433270206 614744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a file position? yes, but it doesn't have to be meaningful < 1433270234 833231 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well that sure fucks up some code i've written! < 1433270249 782098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are two file position functions < 1433270288 397485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one returns an integer but might not work on large files < 1433270291 936796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other returns an opaque struct < 1433270327 507844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the integers are allowed to be opaque too, and are on some weird platforms < 1433270329 227585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but aren't on POSIX < 1433270387 723587 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :structs!! < 1433270457 539217 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seems that GCC does us the service of saying they are integers. < 1433270484 477076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc just reacts to what the type actually is < 1433270492 251300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than what it potentially could be < 1433270520 576955 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. I mean glibc not gcc < 1433270578 417903 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I was using the integerness to skip to particular files within an archive and read them < 1433270636 976601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common, and if you open the file as a binary file, nearly always works < 1433270692 602993 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433270929 206798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433270956 961631 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1433270959 262850 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Not having to be meaningful fucks up Your Code? What the Fuck? < 1433270983 947680 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :.o0(Platform Games vs. Racing Games) < 1433270984 358070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck" is a noun? < 1433270988 286002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought it was a verb < 1433270989 580437 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Idea. < 1433270989 806436 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433270993 764819 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am no native Speaker. < 1433271022 596185 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn] has both Noun and Verb. < 1433271051 470534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, English doesn't have a rule of capitalizing nouns anyway, so it normally doesn't matter which it is when you're using "fuck" as part of an interjection < 1433271057 668681 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :„Adam knew Eve” < 1433271071 153580 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/”/“/ < 1433271076 673167 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1433271079 978440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you are at least consistent about it, and it gives you a style of your own < 1433271087 19835 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1433271210 383371 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433271328 561461 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433271555 308752 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck can be a noun or verb. < 1433271820 132951 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1433273290 883980 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: where does the C standard ask the compiler to solve the halting problem? < 1433273291 96079 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433273314 244767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you want to make table/infobox/etc on wiki, you should try to do data-oriented coding, such as to allow to put SQL codes or RDF graphs (or both) with each page, and then other templates and pages can query it. < 1433274221 915973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ais523: off_t (which is part of POSIX, not C) does need to be an integral type. fpos_t, which is what fgetpos/fsetpos use, can be something more complicated. < 1433274261 43392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aha < 1433274369 772748 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So C is Turing-complete. < 1433274376 799362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(off_t is used by the file-descriptor-level lseek and some others.) < 1433274411 23725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be something more complicated which represents an unbounded position in a file? < 1433274416 107690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic\splat: bleh, you're confusing me, both of those nouns /are/ capitalized naturally in English < 1433274426 983136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the sentence doesn't look any different from normal ;-) < 1433274450 643008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C is an abbreviation, Turing is a person's name) < 1433274462 721355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "C" standard < 1433274496 394650 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is C an abbreviation? < 1433274522 844945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a letter out of "BCPL", allegedly. < 1433274535 528998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's the second letter of "BCPL" which stands for "Basic Computer Programming Language" < 1433274543 61538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined, not Computer. < 1433274549 808244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming Wikipedia is right.) < 1433274552 260516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I guess you're right there < 1433274556 362698 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I did not know that. < 1433274561 510476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess that C is an abbreviation for Combined < 1433274565 411392 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATWP! ATWP! < 1433274567 34536 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck! < 1433274570 403506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book I learned compiler construction from had most of its examples in BCPL < 1433274581 448863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting language, with some pretty bizarrely named keywords < 1433274595 766005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "test then or" rather than "if then else" < 1433274607 335811 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably nothing can be more complicated than the „C-Standard“. < 1433274625 147499 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When does real English use "else" to mean "otherwise"? < 1433274632 775567 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433274653 712497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's colloquial, I think < 1433274664 220626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really correct but you hear it in casual conversation sometimes < 1433274735 807328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think some old language uses "whentrue" and "whenfalse" but I'm not sure < 1433274741 620785 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for "then" and "else" < 1433274768 73191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably one of those old languages that still have three-way equal-greater-less branches < 1433274768 248992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's INTERCAL levels of verbosity :-) < 1433274782 182733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, those are single tokens, single column on the card < 1433274791 369364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk? < 1433274797 478116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1433274800 944381 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1433274801 120146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's ifTrue: ifFalse: < 1433274808 575587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, maybe that < 1433274876 995000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth has the words 'if', 'then' and 'else', but due to the "syntax", it can sound a bit strange when read, since the equivalent of C a(); if (b()) then c(); else d(); e(); looks somewhat like a b IF c ELSE d THEN e < 1433274904 100964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep < 1433274909 132535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some people use 'ENDIF' in place of 'THEN' because of that.) < 1433274922 932395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not much worse than python's in-expression conditional though < 1433274934 29720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :new style, not golf and-or < 1433274947 754816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that look exactly these days? < 1433274979 698677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the one where "a ? b : c" maps to "b if a else c". < 1433275012 385469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is ridiculous hth < 1433275024 989790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a and b or c" is possibly clearer, although it doesn't work if b is falsy < 1433275033 357965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can look exceedingly silly if you mix it with comprehensions, which also have the 'if' condition for filtering. < 1433275062 296098 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was "b if a else c" introduced in 2 or 3? < 1433275085 808033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having a nested x for e in l for x in e thing can be nasty too. < 1433275093 423958 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's still in 3, then I think that's reason enough to pull a Python 3 a second time. < 1433275121 958330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen Forth systems with THEN built-in, ENDIF built-in, both built-in, and neither built-in (but one or the other defined in the standard library); still if you have THEN or ENDIF you can easily define the other if you want it. (I have seen one that has ENDIF built-in but defines THEN in the standard library to have the same meaning as ENDIF does.) < 1433275131 394324 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it would be called... < 1433275134 395203 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Python Threedux" < 1433275151 946339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[x for s in l for x in s] is arguably an "idiom" for flattening l. < 1433275226 735072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'l = [(1, 2), (3, 4, 5), (6, 7)]; print [x for s in l for x in s]' < 1433275231 351353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] < 1433275272 710178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [[1,2],[3,4,5],[6,7]] in [x | s <- l, x <- s] < 1433275275 539755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7] < 1433275277 623136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell's do-notation is like a kind of generalization of that though < 1433275289 732733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is not limit to lists < 1433275375 644389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and there's qbasic, which doesn't usually ignore spaces, but defines ENDIF and END IF as equivalent for historical reasons < 1433275416 80817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that < 1433275419 982540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but BASIC generally has crazy keywords < 1433275426 242141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the QBASIC IDE if you type "ENDIF" it will automatically change it to "END IF" < 1433275450 639495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only if you enable autoformatting, the default, which also changes a = b + c to a=b + c < 1433275456 85765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I turn that off < 1433275457 455352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you type a question mark it will replace it with "PRINT" for you. However, the compiler doesn't accept a question mark. (The FreeBasic compiler does, but the QuickBasic compiler doesn't accept it) < 1433275476 559172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler doesn't accept the question mark? strange < 1433275485 55105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question mark has been along for like forever < 1433275502 366272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as character-based free syntax basic probably < 1433275509 334163 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyevmblttymnzaxo JOIN :#esoteric < 1433275524 857360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC also changes square brackets into parentheses < 1433275529 612141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the commodore 64 which allows print or pri or pR iirc < 1433275545 459020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what? I never tried that < 1433275550 107986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do square brackets even come from? < 1433275555 728586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those used in any basic? < 1433275565 914780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme test that < 1433275568 280270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but if you type in square brackets that is what it does. < 1433275636 689877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that the compiler doesn't accept ? would be strange because the immediate window does, and that window doesn't do autoformat < 1433275638 379012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compiler and IDE use a few differences in what it accepts. Only the IDE accepts a question mark for PRINT, and only the compiler accepts an underscore for line continuation. < 1433275650 432345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, I know the immediate window accepts it < 1433275681 337803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without autoformatting it accepts ? in place of PRINT < 1433275760 25166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... where do I toggle autoformatting? there's a "Syntax Checking" option but that doesn't seem to do this < 1433275774 126948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do't think there is actually such an option < 1433275801 704784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it actually inserts spaces around assignment < 1433275805 153428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what I remembered < 1433275815 366315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main window (unless it is a "document" file type, used in QBX) will always do autoformatting, although sometimes it forgets to autoformat I don't know why < 1433275840 567169 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp i did 10!! by mistake < 1433275854 184935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an option that both turned off autoformatting and let you see all subs at once as a single text? < 1433275871 607031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: press control-C or click the interrupt button < 1433275880 852057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: what language and ide? < 1433275888 547239 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Playing with Factor. < 1433275897 760137 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made the poor listener go to sleep. < 1433275902 516138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 < 1433275922 651169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: At least in QBX, if you tell it to load an additional file and tell it that the file is a "document", it will do that. However, it will not execute the file in that case. < 1433275935 342361 :wundo!~textual@drupal.org/user/25523/view QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1433275963 427029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, this was long ago, I don't remember < 1433275998 118364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I just have to edit with an external editor and run with qbasic /run < 1433276012 605622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that will do it < 1433276102 852987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still program DOS games in QBASIC. With a free implementation and the minimal emulation stuff to need, it can be done with that way too. If people try to do such thing I can even try to help with such thing too < 1433276125 284207 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433276195 191805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made exactly one dos game in qbasic, it's not a very good one, its first two or three level works but then the last level is completely buggy or something because I didn't finish it < 1433276217 370500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a lot though < 1433276239 533530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have a couple of non-games < 1433276254 898416 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433276361 768998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a clone of the entire OASYS text-adventure-game system in QBASIC (this is because I had neither a disk nor a C compiler on the target computer) (it is even compatible with the official implementation too, except for save files) < 1433276389 1085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433278690 981457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... actually maybe all four levels work, sort of, and the game can be won, but the guy on the fourth level can shoots big bullets that show up for just one frame and always hit or something. < 1433278711 179424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also usually dodges the bullets you fire, but that's a feature. < 1433278720 432519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why he's the boss. < 1433278763 847548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's no double buffering so the whole thing flickers constantly as the screen is cleared and redrawn < 1433278885 386992 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433278888 14447 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433278999 78876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let me try to add double-buffering < 1433279003 270536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be a five line fix < 1433279036 928991 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433279326 787408 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433279389 771149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it does try to do double buffering, only somehow doesn't work < 1433279391 375759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see why < 1433279464 948573 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433279916 911216 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433280244 613925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand < 1433280798 951836 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433281486 285180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433281517 186846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo'list < 1433282461 112571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.mezzacotta.net/dinosaur/?comic=128 < 1433282557 895725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh, I was wondering earlier if mezacotta / lightning made of owls / etc. were still running < 1433282567 231549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess mezzacotta itself is still running by definition < 1433282576 788264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps it's effectively repeating itself all the time < 1433282589 720409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning made of owls is a bit slow, although it's been picking up a little this week < 1433282591 644461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there were like four new strips on lmmo this month, but not much before that < 1433282601 485224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's always running in the sense that it accepts submissions < 1433282611 907439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should draw some stick figures and submit there too < 1433282649 879484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: however, it's got 2 new comics recently, one of which i just linked to. < 1433282682 354429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/ which is pretty weird, also unusually _not_ made by DMM at all < 1433282683 969519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: luckily, there's a solution: a knife like in http://www.xkcd.com/248/ can get you out of not only a parenthetical or quote, but even a multipart mime file that has a delimiter that was chosen randomly and then you forgot it < 1433282686 354088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even heard of "the dinosaur whiteboard" < 1433282698 425258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: new this year < 1433282703 78280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it's new < 1433282715 191580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see its about page or something < 1433282721 534477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/dinosaur/about.php < 1433282840 276161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, dmm decided to get on patreon, which was successful enought that he has started making new irregular webcomics < 1433282858 520985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not successful enough that he started making new esolangs? < 1433282871 374129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he advertised that possibility. < 1433282884 320293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was quite open-ended about new projects < 1433282892 238006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find it < 1433282907 437352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.patreon.com/dmmaus?ty=h "Other website diversions - bloggy things, gamey things, arty things." < 1433282910 595120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433282919 370275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arty things" -- dunno < 1433282957 509904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daniel temkin has a blog which I think is mostly looking at the concept of esolangs as an art form < 1433282962 308623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, square root of minus garfield is healthy as ever, the average backlog is several months < 1433282989 668293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't like about his Parteon support thing is that it seems a bit dishonest: < 1433283053 80610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with new Irregular Webcomic strips, his most popular project currently is Darths and Droids, and that's the one why people are going to support it, but he specifically doesn't advertise the Parteon donations on the Darths and Droids page because there's a very slim chance Disney might not like that < 1433283110 956088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, he started the Parteon donation drive with a news entry saying he "hasn't made a cent" from the comics before, or something, when he's specifically asked for no money, and all support to charity instead < 1433283111 645146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i find this bizarre http://www.mezzacotta.net/blockandroll/ < 1433283120 304776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1526.html is a joke of course) < 1433283120 480542 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: unexpected < 1433283120 656381 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Operator without known fixity: < 1433283120 656440 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ://, expected: space < 1433283120 656463 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1526.html is a joke of course) < 1433283120 656483 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433283158 361319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that one is older than darths & droids, anyhow < 1433283166 278733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure < 1433283168 996237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and older than disney's takeover < 1433283181 64901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1433283185 7303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iwc doesn't use screencaps < 1433283188 156778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a big difference < 1433283197 274849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have had a few low resolution photos of book covers of course < 1433283217 275865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/147.html is quite funny < 1433283229 89976 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait I maen http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/108.html < 1433283265 68704 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433283409 445739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Planet of the Hats is still on, but has some breaks when dmm is on a vacation < 1433283962 244247 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284119 313822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, esolangs. I don't need to deliberately create esolangs, because I find so many esoteric corners of langs not intended to be esoteric. < 1433284131 225656 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284136 508220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to understand those corners, and use them. < 1433284216 912232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you like languages like compile time C++? < 1433284231 294313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433284265 202630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not compile-time-only C++, but run-time C++ with a lot of things done in compile time < 1433284277 378908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, even compile time C++ amazes me < 1433284289 886972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that recent stateful constexpr function trick < 1433284318 857936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood evenily < 1433284319 696646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is crazy and people might even consider it a defect in the standard that should be fixed, I dunno < 1433284450 841828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that trick actually work on compilers? < 1433284462 883174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, but I suspect it does < 1433284476 899290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on recent compilers < 1433284524 408907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, what do you count as "work" < 1433284555 308120 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284560 681247 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think it would work fsvo work, but I haven't tested < 1433284729 251662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433284827 948486 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :børjan sørjan. < 1433284833 53427 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1433284833 229148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 23h 35m 53s ago: what do you think of smoke's poutinerie twh < 1433284833 229203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 23h 29m 10s ago: NOOO don't leave i cannot interpret your xsampa even with wikipedia :( < 1433284833 229248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 23h 22m 42s ago: My two theories are: (1) you're trying to write bonsoerjan but have no idea what the phonetic symbols mean (2) you're actually using some african click language with a slight misprint on the 0 < 1433284883 865379 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. never wen't to. apparently very divisive, therefore a must. < 1433284914 294630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's one a short walk away from where i live < 1433284920 779520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem to be my thing < 1433284924 286193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe i should try again < 1433284925 469712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wrote bonsœrjan, with some creatively inserted clicks. < 1433284959 974250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: afaik, there aren't any smoke's in Québec. I'd have to go to Ontario. < 1433284968 615889 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro. have you ever smoke'sed? < 1433284973 365370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or berkeley hth < 1433285034 923971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should come visit and have some poutine < 1433285043 709362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley,_Ontario ? < 1433285044 35990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also one in mont-tremblant hth < 1433285051 794985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah bin! < 1433285066 275243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley,_California < 1433285079 173530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285144 450603 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285180 478028 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's ones around here < 1433285182 868947 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nova scotia < 1433285194 572181 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's one in halifax at least < 1433285436 79068 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433285492 543357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyellos. have I ever asked you the The Question? < 1433285566 847223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did i ever answer? < 1433285577 610896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, so i don't need to update my answer now that i've moved < 1433285603 818238 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you never did. you are probably the Most Reluctantest Person about the The Question. < 1433285634 78303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what my body weigh is < 1433285654 189732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what's written on my government identity card, but they didn't actually weigh me, they just believed what i wrote < 1433285664 23608 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha! < 1433285670 782365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wrote it based on what was written on my previous government identity card < 1433285675 919364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was 6 years ago < 1433285705 184985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 7 < 1433285707 976800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who knows < 1433285740 316907 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433285756 72930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin can give you an estimate, maybe < 1433285764 600218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so basically it contains your birth weight, right? < 1433285765 822595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write in you weight as '7 years ago'. < 1433285783 918509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way, i'm not telling you what's written on that card < 1433285790 96843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could steal my identity < 1433285815 724136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna dress like a baby and pretend to be you on haskell conferences! < 1433285823 737912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't remember ever being born hth < 1433285831 440155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow you too? < 1433285834 858168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, you're going to haskell conferences? < 1433285840 794279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones? < 1433285850 186355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'd have to start < 1433285863 71451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should come to bayhac < 1433285872 258790 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285877 602424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jun 12, mountain view, ca < 1433285886 683329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12-24 < 1433285888 619064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12-14 < 1433285890 413686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1433285915 223484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily can come too < 1433286127 196326 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no I haven't smoked sed < 1433286139 535533 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh we mean the poutine place? < 1433286141 82496 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433286443 327308 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433286592 242917 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433286813 733699 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My arms or kinda sore < 1433286816 40914 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1433286871 921293 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I went climbing this afternoon for the first time in ages) < 1433286918 921619 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Banquise, then? < 1433286925 874934 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. rock climbing? < 1433286943 210151 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, bouldering to be precise < 1433287020 495858 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! do you boulder in groups? < 1433287037 154516 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went with some friends, yeah < 1433287043 536289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably gonna go back next week, too < 1433287066 117582 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433287131 869408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I need to exercise more < 1433287274 988102 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody know where vanila went? >.> < 1433287615 326575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen vanila < 1433287615 540003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw vanila leaving ##crypto 12d 47m 21s ago. < 1433287644 384561 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a sketchy room... < 1433287665 766927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be sketchy when lambdabot is there < 1433287668 60005 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Banquise I've had < 1433287674 196512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crypto is great because sometimes people join and try to sell bitcoin scams. < 1433287676 64180 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also quite like Les Trois Brasseurs' poutine < 1433287699 62209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Unfortunately those aren't options here. < 1433287707 494485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be doing a module in crypto next year < 1433287730 267752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where is here? < 1433287733 394177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: my favourite here is the Broue Pub's Poutiflette. it's a mix between a poutine, and a Swiss tartiflette. < 1433287736 885279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berkeley, CA < 1433287739 992627 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: interesting < 1433287744 578800 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, I imagine it isn't < 1433287756 481262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoke's is an option, though. < 1433287814 377159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but you should taste my friend's poutineer: you start with a poutine layer, then top it with homemade egg curry. < 1433287836 22494 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poutine < 1433287861 670809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poutine was Pouti and boily's sister until the tragic cheese accident. < 1433287868 991561 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1433287883 809965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine is just jammed up french fries < 1433287886 738560 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom < 1433287888 684498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, what is poutine?) < 1433287909 872170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, jammed up as in you put jam on them? < 1433287918 228380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you don't jam them up with jam < 1433287928 361100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what are "cheese curds" then < 1433287929 468911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with some sort of gravy < 1433287932 555539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287934 89477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list/list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun! < 1433287947 915891 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, it's like chips and gravy < 1433287958 367744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, out of date < 1433287961 966807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287962 964149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans/fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1433287968 525460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287971 962436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorem ipsum/Business Internet the it China Product Product NATO < 1433287973 948241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433287981 253193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I haven't had any fentimans in ages < 1433287984 708601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since like monday < 1433287985 738780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it seems to be similar to coffee cheese < 1433287998 851159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? croissont supplier < 1433287999 627748 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See misspellings of croissant < 1433288018 62708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1433288019 18893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433288040 74115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want poutine now < 1433288044 335366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I don't like gravy < 1433288050 640075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: come to berkeley and get some hth < 1433288066 365658 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm busy until next monday < 1433288067 761673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a grave mistake < 1433288117 795829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ok next monday then < 1433288118 165487 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433288120 28864 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: real poutine has poutine sauce. it's similar to a light bbq sauce. cheese curds should be fresh, and squeak under your teeth. < 1433288139 160538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hmm, that could work < 1433288139 518817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does real vegetarian poutine have < 1433288148 658099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :squeaking in terror < 1433288159 147477 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, can you pay my bus fare? I'm a bit low on funds < 1433288170 15904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other transport costs < 1433288176 492038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: from the airport? sure < 1433288190 862337 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but the airport is like all the way on the other side of Leeds < 1433288244 201072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you also pay my bus fare to the airport < 1433288274 331387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds reasonable < 1433288279 745075 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well... potatoes is vegetarian, sauce is vegetarian, cheese is vegetarian too... I guess you could replace the cheese with tofu, but I doubt it's going to be strong or stringy enough for the poutine mélange. < 1433288284 838783 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps a natt < 1433288287 935879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauce is vegetarian? < 1433288292 22677 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ō poutine should do the trick?) < 1433288298 344540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually poutine sauce isn't as far as i can tell < 1433288301 937727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433288327 350037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grilled flour, paprika, cumin, lots of water, a little bit of ketchup, more paprika? < 1433288340 669490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, no gravy in the gravy sauce? < 1433288350 293468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brown gravy: Traditionally a light and thin chicken, veal, or turkey gravy" < 1433288359 506950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/flour,/flour, margarine,/ < 1433288371 698547 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine sauce isn't brown gravy. it's poutine sauce. < 1433288382 174602 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tsé, messemble que c't'ivident...) < 1433288394 303118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke's has poutine and also vegetarian poutine < 1433288404 29497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deluxe vegetarian poutine < 1433288409 775667 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? < 1433288412 59756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had the deluxe but maybe i should try the ordinary < 1433288434 365647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433288468 531542 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might go with a vegetable stock instead in the gravy. That'd *work*. < 1433288484 825180 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that "poutine sauce" is *a* gravy. < 1433288504 846675 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not exactly matching what you'd typically want from a brown gravy. < 1433288517 192126 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternoon < 1433288517 984133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433288523 624859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433288524 965904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :languabe/Languabes are edible and fun. They provide a quick implementation energy boost! < 1433288525 601169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1433288526 489884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1433288528 803716 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1433288529 707790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1433288564 666503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433288566 89358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti/kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity < 1433288580 164497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1433288582 876116 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433288583 51837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'fternoon': Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1433288583 725999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​˻, you could win $2000 from Vaughan Pratt < 1433289620 482262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's enough for air fare to berkeley, where you can have poutine < 1433289627 999469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello_. NT was released before??? < 1433289637 451043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, this sounds like a plan which doesn't have any flaws whatsoever < 1433289661 801430 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plan with no flaw is not the true plan. < 1433289680 688244 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invent the true plan < 1433289688 267096 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, NT was released in '93. < 1433289783 756099 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not *much* reason Windows 95 couldn't have used NTFS (aside from the obvious one of "oh sweet jesus we don't want to change more than we have to, cause Windows software be crazy.") < 1433289789 609758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if NTFS isn't older than NT, or if it was only known as HPFS at that time < 1433289800 485711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a true plan, you should ask Jim from darths & droids, unfortunately he's also in california so it won't help here. < 1433289801 696521 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS is a fork of HPFS. < 1433289805 848258 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS probably required proper OS features < 1433289813 848078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, virtual memory perhaps? < 1433289814 23708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is that asking whether the language defined has countable members? < 1433289844 860541 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Win95 has virtual memory. < 1433289868 253829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, imho maybe < 1433289876 297692 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I doubt it. You could quite reasonably write an aftermarket NTFS for DOS thing. :) < 1433289936 372859 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) I meant more that the code for NTFS required ... stuff, not that the file system itself somehow does < 1433289974 383893 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I don't think it's technically a language in the infinite case, but...) < 1433290009 784673 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Win95 installer wants scratch space < 1433290067 318763 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the Win98 installer DOS has format.exe < 1433290155 756744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: whoa whoa whoa < 1433290160 199470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposed solution (March 23, 2015) < 1433290168 993706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never saw that < 1433290444 665378 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh the Win98 installer formats the disk automatically, I could try that < 1433290607 629017 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the little "This is why windows is great" things is tied to fily copy progress < 1433290611 774401 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They go by too fast to read < 1433290638 295942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what are you trying to do here? < 1433290660 905601 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanted to install Windows 95 to a VM. Gave up for a bit so installing Windows 98 to a VM < 1433290673 953868 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad I did because the 98 installer will do what I need for 95, I think < 1433290799 852206 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:61c:e501:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433290818 9642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433290819 938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome toxolotl < 1433290827 805381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09toxolotl: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1433290840 636474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was worried that it was something insane like needing a disk formatted as FAT16 and Windows 95 was the only program old enough to do it < 1433290867 730451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when we only had the Windows 95 upgrade edition. < 1433290879 314825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we'd need to put in the Windows 3.11 floppy in order to install. < 1433290888 170118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: with a windows 9x VM you could get ms comic chat going (though it does tend to crash on normal IRC traffic) < 1433290901 409733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was both Windows 95 and Windows 98 upgrade editions? < 1433290905 612915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a big mess, anyway. < 1433290948 392139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was dumb enough to grant a program on the WIndows 95 disk (that I don't know where it came from so might be genuine) admin on my real 8.1 machine in hopes that it would work. It bluescreened me, and hopefully was just a bad compatibility issue and not actual malware from 2007 < 1433290956 695338 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*so might not be genuine < 1433290994 989552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you were to plant malware in a pirated OS, I think you'd go for the OS itself, not in the CDEXPO program < 1433291007 917957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: if it is actual malware from 2007, then any modern antivirus should be able to find it < 1433291035 874818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why would malware from 2007 end up on a windows 95 disk? < 1433291058 610551 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I obtained the .iso file in 2007. I don't remember where I obtained it from. < 1433291184 248415 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Literally anything that can do FAT can do FAT 16 though. < 1433291187 128902 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay Win95 setup wrking < 1433291210 645695 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433291216 648621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: including formatting programs? < 1433291219 908356 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: FAT32 has a *minimum* volume size of 32MB. < 1433291243 460672 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, Win95 wants a "20-digit Product Identification Number" < 1433291278 702664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that's printed on the CD case, I think < 1433291287 578757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on the computer < 1433291307 525040 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a consequence of that, pretty much anything has to do FAT16 just to handle the full range of volume sizes. < 1433291330 54065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ext2? can you sensibly format a floppy like that? < 1433291352 877632 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1433291379 312410 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAT32 is unique in having a minimum volume size (beyond "large enough to fit fundamental data structures") < 1433291397 126199 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I have *done* such a floppy) < 1433291435 223451 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's slightly trickier would be a FAT12 formatter. < 1433291448 172362 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though IIRC Windows' formatter and mkdosfs both do that. < 1433291450 35191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was a FAT12 < 1433291476 132793 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :floppy disks < 1433291494 702624 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as very (very) old hard drives. < 1433291506 580745 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :max size 20 mb < 1433291532 450318 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, floppies in FAT are FAT12 as a rule. < 1433291621 255446 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat unrelatedly, fuck ExFAT. < 1433291672 793230 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with exfat? nobody ever tells me < 1433291696 222993 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS asserts unspecified patents on it making it impractical to implement in a sane fashion. < 1433291724 457293 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Erm. In a sane fashion for many vendors. < 1433291781 233216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Perl now has a warning for trying to create an infinitely long string using syntax like "a" x "Inf" < 1433291787 537914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what that did before < 1433291800 643494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO it should just create an infinitely long string, but I guess I'm in the minority here < 1433291826 784042 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is linux ntfs support so slow? < 1433291856 279453 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, write speeds < 1433291896 971380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux NTFS write support is relatively new, that might be related but I'm not sure < 1433291930 896809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we talking the kernel NTFS or the FUSE one? < 1433291947 331930 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :whichever ubuntu 15.04 uses < 1433291955 124797 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the FUSE one then. < 1433291962 44589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I would have guessed kernel < 1433291964 231476 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyevmblttymnzaxo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433292423 749417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Code like /$a[/ used to read the next line of input and treat it as though it came immediately after the opening bracket." < 1433292427 99965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a weird bug < 1433292431 104129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like Shellshock < 1433292451 198930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it works in interpolated code? I'm guessing no without an eval, in which case it's unexpolitable < 1433292488 836735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, unexploitable anyway; it lets bits of the code you can't control affect bits of the code you can, which is the opposite of exploitable, really < 1433292499 313091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most you could potentially do is get hold of what one line of source looks like < 1433292534 419345 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a chart of OEM keys, but I don't know which version of Windows 95 this is < 1433292571 48553 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the bits of code you can't control attempts to process the bits of code you can, could htat be a problem? < 1433292605 112403 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What are the options of versions? < 1433292622 645879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 33 x ~3 < 1433292623 363252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :panic: memory wrap at -e line 1. < 1433292643 269342 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 95 OEM Version, Windows 95 OEM Version (02) ... (16) < 1433292646 966587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's actually the intended output < 1433292649 344033 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely an OEM version < 1433292873 10411 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they all work < 1433292876 760765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "${<{}}// < 1433292928 612799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "<>{" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1433292939 313191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1433292942 194017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e s/${<>{})// < 1433292943 46797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "<>{" \ Missing right curly or square bracket at -e line 1, within pattern \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1433292953 47965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bizarre line of code < 1433292960 774321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's managing not to crash < 1433293090 586606 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now two CD drives attached, Win98 in first one, Win95 in second < 1433293263 597320 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Protection Error < 1433293351 196230 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've written a (deliberately bad) fizzbuzz which runs in O(n^5) time < 1433293393 911720 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1433293438 446511 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only O(n^4) I think < 1433293502 885802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it plausible-looking code, or does it have no obvious scope for optimization? < 1433293521 38890 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's plausible code written by a Haskell beginner < 1433293540 835747 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is new to programming < 1433293552 316459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is so much obvious room for optimization < 1433293589 22359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm wondering what the computational order of a Prolog FizzBuzz that doesn't use "is" is < 1433293594 682644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :written in the most obvious way < 1433293595 193279 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting an execution cap of 20% worked < 1433293598 174610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably O(n^2) < 1433293609 568600 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess the CPU's too fast. There is a patch for it, not sure if I should bother < 1433293719 458691 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experimentally, it seems roughly O(n^3.3) < 1433293895 587103 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems odd < 1433293908 849864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler optimizations? cache effects? < 1433293923 389175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe... < 1433293926 748310 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts down Win95 for now < 1433293959 359030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to run this with -O0, though, it took 4 minutes for n=3000 (no options to GHC), and I'm running it with n=4000 now < 1433294013 130601 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is a restart required between partitioning and formatting? < 1433294101 554012 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :since whe? < 1433294104 340302 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*when < 1433294109 933328 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm just surprised it's a non-integer exponent < 1433294138 608137 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the program I think it's probably quartic < 1433294143 964699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :noninteger exponents aren't that uncommon are they? < 1433294165 221599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've never really encountered them? < 1433294192 381600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember some Big Important Algorithm having one but not what it was < 1433294193 426957 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4^.5? < 1433294205 123060 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka, since DOS or Windows98's DOS or something < 1433294210 318583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :an obvious practical example though is the trace of a matrix with n entries < 1433294237 72098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: matrix multiplication? < 1433294237 720784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you normally use side length as the n with matrix algorithms... < 1433294274 420567 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^(y/z) = (z_root(x))^y < 1433294276 199969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, probably that, yeah < 1433294358 270273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The current O(n^k) algorithm with the lowest known exponent k is a generalization of the Coppersmith–Winograd algorithm that has an asymptotic complexity of O(n^2.3728639), by François Le Gall." < 1433294381 427282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some people suspect the limit is actually 2 < 1433294386 363977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1433294387 433721 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "polynomial time" mean? < 1433294400 943884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: in time bounded by a polynomial of input size < 1433294435 519818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n^k) execution time, more or less < 1433294489 185008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always use n^k because any other polynomial has one of those as an upper bound (once n > 1) < 1433294526 616066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note n is the input size and k is a constant) < 1433294817 743481 :Hallucinate_!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433294835 807669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Hallucinate_ < 1433294836 779734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallucinate_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! 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(For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433294848 719954 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://lpaste.net/4279646507705040896 is the source if you want to look < 1433294893 481150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1433294899 61241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isFizz and isBuzz are O(n) < 1433294909 503284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you think a newbie could manage to get NPlusKPatterns working? i guess e might be using hugs. < 1433294928 44617 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's in a bunch of older tutorials < 1433294952 150782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: haha at that mapM_ < 1433294955 395717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just really blatant :-) < 1433294982 462694 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's the kind of mistake I could imagine myself having made < 1433295013 789525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm confused by is if the ++ in the fizzbuzz function "stacks" with the isFizz and isBuzz being inefficient < 1433295025 267691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long list is on the left, so this is O(n^2) < 1433295040 936475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it leads to a combined O(n^2) for fizzbuzz, not O(n^3) < 1433295041 816815 :Hallucinate_!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net NICK :Hallucinate < 1433295046 239329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ++ needs to go through the left, and to know the length of the left it has to do isFizz and isBuzz < 1433295076 396794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1433295084 222465 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah, and then the last is O(n), and it does it n times < 1433295089 100512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong about the mapM_ < 1433295089 655094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the same length in both branches of the case < 1433295100 513931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depends if GHC spots that or not < 1433295119 973503 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the function being mapped is what's wrong < 1433295136 167347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Taneb already has a function to generate a list of fizzbuzzes, but he's creating a list of each possible length and then mapping last over it < 1433295142 84540 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that < 1433295161 666576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapM_ itself is a perfectly reasonable function, but that use of it is ridiculous < 1433295172 503909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, it's actually one of the comonad laws on List, if you read the lists backwards < 1433295192 792642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1433295213 418997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think that use of ++ is O(n^2) overhead < 1433295225 169290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right associative < 1433295278 856785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonad laws on List? < 1433295294 712357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the comonad in Mon you get from the adjunction? < 1433295311 214376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: List as a comonad, one of the comonad operations (M x -> x) is head, and the other (M x -> M M x) is a list of all suffixes of the input list < 1433295319 61619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean, I'm at my phone and missed falls the conversation. < 1433295323 28325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, this works on nonempty lists only < 1433295328 604431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, noon-empty lists. < 1433295344 395188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's doing basically that in reverse: prefixes and last < 1433295366 489060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the comonad I described called? < 1433295392 416487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aware of a name for it < 1433295397 783169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even knew it existed < 1433295621 660394 :Hallucinate!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net QUIT :Quit: Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm < 1433295623 193299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's in Mon it only works if Monoid x, i take < 1433295637 886382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :M = [] < 1433295649 181809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(M x -> x) would be mconcat < 1433295653 136223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mconcat < 1433295654 384149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoid a => [a] -> a < 1433295677 279280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EPICHOROID CHICKEN < 1433295692 259131 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think what would was described would be mconcat . reverse < 1433295696 92490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(M x -> M (M x)), what's that < 1433295712 136406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't think shachaf included reversal < 1433295733 161072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ais523 said if you read the lists backwards, which I was trying to include < 1433295737 314663 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1433295748 772646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shachaf's comment wasn't directly relevant to your code < 1433295865 899864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433295895 415617 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433295898 448487 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's the verdict on the complexity of my fizzbuzz? < 1433295932 367546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433295954 157209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the last element gets isFizz etc. evaluated < 1433295963 78707 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting from CD into HD broke the VM... but blue screened even when I got rid of that < 1433295969 87248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you sure? < 1433296016 106031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait right < 1433296022 253442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1433296026 970925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1433296051 191526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: map (:[])? < 1433296105 578012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: either that or just (:[])? i cannot wrap my brain around that much. < 1433296127 775360 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the core for the program hasn't optimized the isFizz and isBuzz checks out < 1433296144 454671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For non-last elements < 1433296227 653695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523, depends if GHC spots that or not <-- i think because of bottom, ghc cannot legally do that < 1433296269 84782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't it infer that isFizz and isBuzz are total? < 1433296283 591918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it possible to create an infinitely large Integer in Haskell? < 1433296301 303505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, firstly, they take Int, not Integer < 1433296308 672369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or even knew it existed <-- every adjunction between two categories gives a monad in one, and comonad in the other. < 1433296313 830563 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if they took Integer, they would be undefined with n = -1 < 1433296350 162708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good points < 1433296367 126121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist < 1433296369 896293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so unnatural < 1433296410 211193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist they're so unnatural < 1433296414 462222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1241) after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist they're so unnatural < 1433296438 944919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't even realise that was a pun until you `addquoted it < 1433296450 810030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better < 1433296468 327269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or is it possible to create an infinitely large Integer in Haskell? <-- nope, only bottom. < 1433296519 876481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would have been embarrassing would be if I'd missed the pun altogether < 1433296521 805854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, time to go home < 1433296592 455369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433296711 376986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, F U -> I, that's mconcat. I -> U F, that's (:[]) < 1433296767 448032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. And you have FU->FUFU = F eta < 1433296786 903881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it maps (:[]) < 1433296794 371625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is pretty awkward on a phone. < 1433296866 24808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :F I U = F U -> F U F U = F (U F) U < 1433296887 643777 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric ://///////////////////////////////////// < 1433296887 860474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1433296888 260166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should be F (:[]) U in a sense < 1433296891 391860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops < 1433296934 619952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but (:[]) is polymorphic hth < 1433297030 654229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that my brain doesn't have quite the power to convince itself of the last step < 1433297146 6686 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1433297286 226448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433297300 752149 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433297353 98226 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433297385 922273 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433297390 367623 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433297592 448316 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1433297757 3095 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433297831 343145 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go to sleep now, goodnight! < 1433298803 24625 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the function that turns a number like 77 (7 * 11) to 60 (6 * 10) ? < 1433298996 605848 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean from (x*y), where x and y are prime, to ((x-1)*(y-1)) < 1433299023 978742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it has a name < 1433299056 972507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1433299071 881438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the euler totient function < 1433299103 703641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, if a prime can occur more than once, you need to be more specific. < 1433299118 214086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1433299272 355636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your definition isn't very clear on what to do for numbers _not_ of that form. < 1433299280 816023 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1433299315 565741 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remembered involved semiprimes < 1433299317 845998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you have two different primes x and y, the totient function fits. < 1433299333 87259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is what you need for RSA and the like < 1433299415 725078 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is glad his "big brother", the NSA, is "supposed" to stop watching this channel... < 1433299440 995628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is publicly logged hth < 1433299479 75522 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you don't know what i mean by "Big Brother", see "1984") < 1433299483 995558 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433299486 793880 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1433299497 914353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that book < 1433299518 198104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long ago < 1433299523 704544 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got cofused after the first sentence < 1433299528 627761 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*confused < 1433299536 817856 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i read the wikipedia entry < 1433299548 208414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what < 1433299557 169464 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :1984 < 1433299595 74749 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was a bright cold day in april when the clocks struck 13." < 1433299607 840948 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was the first line < 1433299636 10405 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :got confused < 1433299871 8972 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1433300009 527060 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently recovering from being drugged by his doctors with cognitive-inhibiting side-effects for four years before it got bad enough that he forgot that his name belonged to him and was not just a nickname. < 1433300068 990382 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glayxegplxrzkvxl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433300158 182043 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :before i started on that medication, I used to shake like crazy. Sgeo probably reembers. < 1433300184 152783 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembers < 1433300564 855295 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of an extension? < 1433300579 208863 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :contraction? < 1433300699 798705 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433300767 491317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of extension < 1433300822 407664 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduction < 1433301700 439100 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: like an extension to a language < 1433301729 968740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the term for a version of a language which removes, rather than adds, features < 1433301757 695840 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple? < 1433301804 747644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1433302813 252693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :restriction? < 1433302836 367805 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subset? < 1433302836 547892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ^ < 1433303678 79942 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433303689 871614 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433304125 963311 :hilquias!~user@187.113.114.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433304135 866005 :hilquias!~user@187.113.114.254 QUIT :Changing host < 1433304136 41875 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433305145 373788 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433305174 677562 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433305188 477071 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433306149 142966 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433307746 625331 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433308405 339552 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433308449 190767 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1433310264 635826 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433310726 671060 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433311453 557627 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433311851 490127 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433312701 940545 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433312710 467776 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433313281 850200 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka|Away: what kind of drugs did they put you on and what for? < 1433313326 750029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1433314634 430609 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433315006 236343 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OTHER fizzbuzz I wrote, features a 250 character type signature < 1433315049 418491 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consisting only of functions between type variables and a three-character type synonym < 1433315061 62648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n < 1433315217 525818 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433315263 299791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with type Num = forall a. (a -> a) -> a -> a) < 1433315719 102547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.. of course.. < 1433315866 851060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433316246 479827 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid to ask what that type signature does in your fizzbuzz < 1433316375 235678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fixed point combinator < 1433317169 632108 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix (?f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) < 1433317171 633940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unbound implicit parameter < 1433317171 809722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (?f::m1 < 1433317171 809804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> m1 < 1433317202 732648 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> fix (f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) < 1433317204 16965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘m1 < 1433317204 192795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> m1 < 1433317204 192878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (s1 -> n1 -> n1) < 1433317235 912388 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> fix (f :: (m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> (m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n)) < 1433317238 61470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘(m1 < 1433317238 237323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> m1 < 1433317238 237408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (s1 -> n1 -> n1) < 1433317249 527727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix ?f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n < 1433317251 134996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unbound implicit parameter < 1433317251 310771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (?f::(m1 < 1433317251 310858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> m1 < 1433317253 750070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1433317256 337741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:( < 1433317272 834070 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :):) < 1433318312 984837 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1433319047 336778 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433320762 98051 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433322311 305569 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433322664 567807 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taben's always abusing Haskell. < 1433322668 620890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Taneb < 1433322677 774479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you abuse Haskell? < 1433322677 960659 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: are we also trying.' automated and must be in the form of the continue button. norris is a month.... in error! < 1433322903 943817 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433323000 668268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433323221 323947 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433323342 897678 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433327408 132970 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433327433 241210 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo > () < 1433327433 416818 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () > () < 1433327437 141009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1433327458 527853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "fungot" < 1433327458 703655 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: probably get an inventory of the right of the best to keep the california power market. < 1433327461 636631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot < 1433328325 429621 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1433328325 605400 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: right where they left what i < 1433328337 218992 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good! < 1433328337 394567 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: know where the meeting on the construction industry."? 11 am. < 1433328370 628418 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no. but I got some obscure fuzzy meeting Thursday afternoon with our QC VP. < 1433328370 804063 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: next to equity. pete wilson both the financial deal that was from the new more efficient. < 1433328383 397494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh do you know anything about the calculus of constructions? < 1433328383 573199 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: for that reason, the work of the sheet that you send to the top the ibm and america two countries separated and an expected time frame. < 1433328389 759673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pete wilson. I'll remember. her name was pete wilson. < 1433328389 955482 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bond issuance- 12b not enough that the business of new/ existing application systems or business trip you wish to have quicker to put you on the same for the other susan scott...i'm with nat gas spread in 2001 that will not let < 1433328410 113358 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. calculus of construction? < 1433328494 227798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Calculus of Constructions (CoC) is a type theory created by Thierry Coquand. ... I'm also hearing it's the basis of Coq. < 1433328573 915934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I asked fun‍got because it mentioned the construction industry. < 1433328631 961387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well? < 1433328632 136986 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they partially to increase. moritzburke associate oakland. dte energy trading and the will of the california legislature. < 1433328644 637381 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fun. x⃐y⃑ < 1433328673 903564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more fun. a⃖⃗ < 1433328786 926625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works c⃬⃑lockwise and c⃬⃐ounterclockwise < 1433328803 568648 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructive chicken. < 1433328809 198711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I messed up the arrow below the first c < 1433328825 576665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433328832 811244 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode x⃐y⃑ < 1433328836 244269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X \ UTF-8: 78 UTF-16BE: 0078 Decimal: x \ x (X) \ Uppercase: U+0058 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+20D0 COMBINING LEFT HARPOON ABOVE \ UTF-8: e2 83 90 UTF-16BE: 20d0 Decimal: ⃐ \ ⃐ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 230 (Abov < 1433328854 192410 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chicken harpooned < 1433328855 51128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: chicken: not found < 1433328858 336874 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1433328864 238761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`CHICKEN HARPOONED < 1433328864 901972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: CHICKEN: not found < 1433328869 287372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. < 1433328961 388726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. The font that gucharmap uses gets this wrong... "combining rightwards harpoon with barb downwards" points to the left. < 1433328988 47326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is better anyway. c⃔ c⃕ < 1433329028 530809 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hope they don't ever handle a real harpoon < 1433329046 791825 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :harpoon should be double-ended, so you can't misorient them. < 1433329525 316245 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all C struct types with fields of all the same names and matching types matching types, or do they have to have the same struct name if they have a struct name at all? < 1433329727 785190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a {int x;}; struct b{int x;}; struct a a = (b){}; < 1433329734 816966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:52: error: ‘b’ undeclared here (not in a function) \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1433329736 492110 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a {int x;}; struct b{int x;}; struct a a = (struct b){}; < 1433329737 438207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:59: error: invalid initializer \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1433329739 985035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: somehow that made me think of these devices, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Drevnosti_RG_v3_ill130c_-_Caltrop.jpg < 1433329744 940785 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nope) < 1433329780 101578 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; typedef struct {int x;} b; a a = (b){}; // probably not either < 1433329781 86227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:57: error: ‘a’ redeclared as different kind of symbol \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1433329791 715578 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; typedef struct {int x;} b; a x = (b){}; < 1433329792 560887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:43: error: invalid initializer \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1433329815 899891 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; a x = (a){}; < 1433329816 684183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:16: error: initializer element is not constant \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1433329866 929060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah, the safety harpoon with extra spikes to be sure you skewer your prey properly. < 1433330158 754192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I don't think "matching type" is a C term at all, but "two structure -- types declared in separate translation units are compatible if their tags and members satisfy the following requirements: If one is declared with a tag, the other shall be declared with the same tag. If both are completed anywhere within their respective translation units, then the following additional requirements ... < 1433330164 757845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... apply: [member stuff]." < 1433330225 396392 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I didn’t know what the C term was. Thank you. < 1433330863 56129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SELFREFERENTIAL CHICKEN < 1433330940 158211 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433331012 638795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet misremembered < 1433331013 758193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MISREMEMBERED CHICKEN < 1433331158 370321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Note also the requirement of two separate translation units. After a struct { int a; int b; } x; struct { int a; int b; } y; in a single translation unit, the types of a and b are not compatible, AIUI. < 1433331173 580032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, the types of x and y, I mean. < 1433331481 995921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet dismembered < 1433331482 731522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISMEMBERED CHICKEN < 1433331502 954225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet < 1433331533 868593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433331692 690036 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /usr/share/dict < 1433331693 552627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433331767 639869 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433331767 852093 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1433331767 852180 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433331785 893414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does hackego have a word list? < 1433331833 920110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word < 1433331840 474554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ralminisialobiitatifiiiscerk < 1433331842 450625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd wisdom; ls) | grep ed$ | wc < 1433331843 516933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 0 0 0 < 1433331853 316352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1433331859 937224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :positurial < 1433331939 364374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name words 2>/dev/null < 1433331970 757975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433332022 716296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. > echo $(grep ed$ /usr/share/dict/words | shuf -n 10) < 1433332022 929982 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :randomized snaffled encased enlightened respired ransomed sunned appealed endowed unclogged < 1433332027 699915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(love the first one) < 1433332100 271651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1433332101 270914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1433332109 686169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1433332130 451449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(realized my sed was potentially shoddy) < 1433332241 724916 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433332241 900614 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1433332241 900677 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433332326 922889 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433332458 290937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see xkcd's beret guy has a new job. at least this one seems to have long time prospects. < 1433332665 490066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also foresee weight gain in zeetha's future. < 1433333168 856814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think agatha might need some lessons from klaus in how to ignore unauthorized biographies twh < 1433333445 803096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I have not read today's GG yet. Some people have to work ;) < 1433333460 699704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1433333663 810268 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433333666 655418 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433333851 608129 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433334041 215356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it an inconvenient truth. < 1433334386 992269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, coca-cola doesn't actually contain cola? < 1433334945 3010 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433335218 413722 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433335290 426625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433335384 558865 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433335628 234637 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433336267 733154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it contain coca? < 1433337835 266388 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabucgchkbjuwbwd NICK :glowcoil < 1433337841 234901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains "natural flavourings". < 1433337980 623571 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433338152 624344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been under the impression that it still contains something derived from processed coca leaves, though. < 1433338240 195432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly, they extract out the cocaine and sell it on the black market properly dispose of it. < 1433338404 721531 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433338711 477776 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433338936 663677 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433339010 741758 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433341317 439466 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433341383 567716 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433341419 145603 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: inderal (propranolol). it's a beta blocker, and i took it for tremors caused by lithium < 1433341424 674440 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433341596 750825 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sourceforge has now hijacked Nmap. http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194 < 1433341618 980404 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433341662 304074 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the port scanner, right? < 1433341695 546558 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1433341722 857063 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF has hijacked the repo and is distributing bogus trojan downloads like they did with GIMP. < 1433341738 503111 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1433341791 347796 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. SF always offers the newest file, not the correct-est file < 1433341801 995976 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433341826 53146 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: because they are running out of money, and this will make them some. < 1433342074 893600 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433342334 984415 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe GPLv4 will include a clause against cnetization (mcnetization?). < 1433342615 320441 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433343449 936055 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433344253 776859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43135 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+276) 10Created page with "== Quine == ++>+++++++>++>++++++++>+>+++++++>++>+++>++>+++>+++>+++>+>+>+++++++>++++>++>++>++++++>++>+++>+>+>+>++++++++>++>++++++>++++>++>++++>++++>++++>+>+>+>++++++++>++>++>+..." < 1433344370 810470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43136&oldid=43135 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+23) 10 < 1433344425 922447 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esowiki201529A strikes again < 1433344431 631112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43137&oldid=43136 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+4) 10/* Quine */ < 1433344568 320382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43138&oldid=43137 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+9) 10 < 1433344743 249284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43139&oldid=43138 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+73) 10/* */ < 1433345115 853726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43140&oldid=43139 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+35) 10 < 1433345623 538015 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433346042 141492 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433346100 935343 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433347003 802881 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433347115 267107 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433347189 274249 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433347593 732387 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433347759 611880 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433347781 970203 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433348298 44350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433348316 777241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, oh dear. < 1433348610 23272 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433349210 305886 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433349435 190239 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433350174 680202 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433350336 525081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is it, dear? < 1433350512 195116 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433350599 351165 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Feel free to answer while I'm gone, I'll check the online logs < 1433350695 667408 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433350786 668672 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the world has received another brainfuck clone, apparently with the sole purpose of writing a quine. < 1433350947 392202 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit. https://twitter.com/synackpse/status/606088427222769664 < 1433351596 500994 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433352006 965113 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433352446 482547 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Class and such < 1433353126 976622 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar BOM < 1433353142 212171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, < 1433353158 496431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar VABB < 1433353158 883837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :VABB 031710Z 29007KT 3500 HZ SCT020 31/25 Q1007 NOSIG < 1433353907 393179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1433353908 24584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 031720Z 05009KT 020V100 9999 FEW080 BKN100 26/14 Q1021 NOSIG < 1433353916 412021 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433354496 913475 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433355646 916621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out how to make this bluetooth headset work with my laptop: < 1433355656 220833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall pulseaudio, sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart; pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover; disable and enable bluetooth from menu, then try to connect to headset. From the computer. < 1433355673 393353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This appears to work. And it is stupid. And no "normal" user would ever figure it out... < 1433355909 47764 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433356618 83601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpallo < 1433357316 365365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pong < 1433357319 360337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1433357322 157307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping < 1433357324 129305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pong < 1433357348 580841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh! People in American Samoa are generally not citizens of any statew. < 1433357358 720646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433357359 930980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__________hoover/OK you got me there. < 1433357370 54444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433357374 203264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1433357382 309108 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. they are not US citizens, or citizens of anywhere else. < 1433357412 668159 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is really weird. < 1433357603 256972 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically, American Samoa doesn't count as US soil for purposes of birthright citizenship, and people there are unlikely to otherwise have a citizenship) < 1433357649 762336 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. Fucking. Weird. < 1433357751 402792 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues twiddling thumbs hoping to hear back from Google. < 1433358059 583604 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433358160 972366 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433358533 544372 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433358563 164218 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glayxegplxrzkvxl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433358622 984439 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433358631 490011 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1433359202 471843 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what do you expect google to do? < 1433359396 517977 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433359442 323569 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hire me. < 1433359487 866611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, you think Vorpal is going to hire you just like that? < 1433359500 525184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you watching John Oliver's show or is there another recent source for this information? < 1433359514 302293 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Random Wikipedia. < 1433359533 305497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1433359534 886153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of Google things do you want to do? < 1433359595 460154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Keep Google running". < 1433359612 640393 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the cliff notes version of the site reliability engineer role I applied for) < 1433359632 755231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I used to do that. < 1433359643 767416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "Google" and "running" < 1433359646 669421 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1433359675 34788 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their hiring process is less efficient than I'd like though. < 1433359678 539339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're running Google off a cliff? < 1433359690 194534 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1433359690 470662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move to Mountain View < 1433359699 587488 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I applied for. < 1433359793 782008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you don't apply for a specific team or anything like that? < 1433359804 488740 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1433359835 430291 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433359875 797895 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433359885 987413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently some people do know in advance. But I didn't know what I'd be doing until the end of my first day. < 1433360178 173171 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the least, interviews went well and were pretty fun. < 1433360274 750665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do interviews in Mountain View? < 1433360302 250325 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1433360328 254699 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't have that much time in the area though: practically flew in, interviewed, and flew out. < 1433360547 17047 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433361057 543401 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433361534 666756 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433361625 50096 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433362736 195997 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433362736 408306 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433363125 163175 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433363244 798708 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkzrhoicwuzxhydo JOIN :#esoteric < 1433363820 501 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433364759 292066 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433364947 813914 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433365398 964035 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433365400 189423 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433365424 149640 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433365845 795383 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1433366274 907115 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433366379 643679 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1433367177 885182 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433367760 680961 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433367959 107465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_(bishop_of_Ely) < 1433367960 398746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nigel < 1433368365 75388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433368901 890861 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-152.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433368902 126571 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-141.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433369118 832012 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433369193 817198 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1433369229 179221 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433369251 880099 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-152.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433369849 172625 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1433369849 388048 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1433370444 937935 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433370828 323638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What sort of Google things do you want to do? <-- * briefly wonders if this channel has more bots or google employees < 1433370852 299606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it only has one Google employee hth < 1433370863 524604 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Google recruiter has said that all the interviewers thought I was quite good, and believes I have the job. *Unfortunately*, there's a few steps between that and actually getting a confirmation. < 1433370867 303184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might soon have two? < 1433370869 383777 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurrah. < 1433370880 907689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's had as many as three in the past < 1433370884 180479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe more < 1433370886 670674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe, but am not sure, that we have more than three bots < 1433370888 235646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well we cannot really say about all the lurkers, can we? < 1433370905 641965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: plausible < 1433370912 433788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrahq < 1433370923 58218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I never finished writing my bot in Agda < 1433370928 17385 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really got started, I guess < 1433370939 456953 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433370944 33464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should be on gmail hth < 1433370979 672139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do we have more than three bots? < 1433370979 847844 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: over the next few years on the strength of the enron's unique. charles rangel and ways of doing. < 1433370989 972651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433370990 148454 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433371003 211004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was an Enron style. < 1433371133 645058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An SRE told me that SRE's are the people who fix the things SWE's broke. But he might have been a biased source. < 1433371142 473057 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why Gmail? < 1433371149 579624 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That sounds about right. < 1433371157 101598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. what's a SRE twh? < 1433371199 68841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was on Gmail SRE. < 1433371199 695451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1433371203 618272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The person who fixes... oh, you mean the abbreviation? Site Reliability Engineer. < 1433371220 49354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SWE is Soft Ware Engineer < 1433371239 445466 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Site reliability engineer". More-or-less a dev ops sort of role, where you're a developer that is most heavily focused on keeping things working. < 1433371251 82004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yafgc hasn't updated < 1433371258 349346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much for the new regular schedule < 1433371275 61230 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the support guy who has the misfortune of knowing how to code? < 1433371283 248762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is it more fun to break things or fix things? < 1433371305 467930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think that's an accurate description. < 1433371308 936410 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I managed to pass this Acronym Check by rolling over 15 with my wisdom modifier. < 1433371318 219480 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're *not* a customer facing support guy or anything. < 1433371329 234869 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think more "the guy with the pager when a server breaks" < 1433371333 619270 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1433371342 406953 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuurgh. bleh! not a job for me at all. < 1433371353 791432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that, and "the folks who make sure it doesn't break in the first place". < 1433371354 598489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my hours in accordance with the sun, and on weekdays. < 1433371358 697303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pager, yeah, that's instant disqualification < 1433371407 486509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if SREs were paged every time a server broke... < 1433371407 662252 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is that you're on call on rotation rather than all the time. < 1433371414 203086 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's nightmarish. < 1433371415 53687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like "the datacenter broke" < 1433371418 699091 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention, yes, that. < 1433371443 8119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The processing pipeline broke, and we're losing $20 million per hour." < 1433371448 135996 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "the datacenter spontaneously disappeared". < 1433371455 475113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, on-call rotations, and people in multiple time zones, depending on the team. < 1433371465 801794 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eh? 20e6 $/h??? < 1433371468 969667 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're more likely to get paged when something is actually causing issues, not just when a server crashes because c'mon, this is Google. Hardware malfunctions are a parameter you design for. < 1433371490 953938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably usually not quite that much. < 1433371524 37065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://investor.google.com/earnings/2014/Q4_google_earnings.html says that Google's revenue for 2014 was $66e9 < 1433371527 837116 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope. like, every day with an outage, we're losing a whole country's GDP. la dee da. < 1433371534 959255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1433371538 820507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Google's revenue, according to Google, is $66 billion/year, so if you break all of it, it's like $7-8 million/hour. < 1433371540 884245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's $7e6 per hour. < 1433371556 133606 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably depends on the hour. < 1433371556 397923 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still impressive. < 1433371561 111093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1433371561 286553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, you might have to try pretty hard to break all of it. < 1433371588 292922 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should try and temporarily break the Whole of Google, just to see what happens. < 1433371613 803358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today a colleague told me that I will be a "noogler" ('new employee') until I break something in production. < 1433371647 435075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were discussing the definition; there seem to be multiple opinions on when exactly you're no longer new. < 1433371662 458714 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're older than the other guys? < 1433371668 183213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway with a big system like Google "down" isn't really a binary value. < 1433371686 852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some part of it is always down. You just try to keep that number low. < 1433371690 301196 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of think of everyone hired after me as "new" employees < 1433371695 621646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's pretty vague, too. Though there's a page that shows your percentile. < 1433371697 468376 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within tolerances. < 1433371698 40303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it was 6 years ago < 1433371706 576521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "X % of employees were hired after you". < 1433371712 820430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's your percentile twh < 1433371727 613002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot. Less than 10% are newer than me, anyway. < 1433371762 765950 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkzrhoicwuzxhydo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433371816 389743 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a newbot? < 1433371816 565322 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as the first. thanks. fred < 1433371827 284403 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm not fred. < 1433371827 460132 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: confidential attached the " i < 1433371838 838413 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. your secret identity? I knew it! < 1433371839 14209 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: keep the faith and in a manner the person that you outbid the person i know in it that i wanted you to know that the document that i went the spirit of the earnings of each investment choice against its risk of losses the power and to gaming the market, and to get any more " out of the plants that not only survive, but that the different, < 1433371863 341432 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you google? < 1433371863 517179 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 1. i watch people, sip. power authority of the work that we < 1433372735 238477 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433373385 400564 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433373707 553959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` poulet amnesiac # hoily < 1433373708 571066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMNESIAC CHICKEN < 1433373898 743568 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:61c:e501:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433374077 458465 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` poulet existing # hellørjan < 1433374078 296324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXISTING CHICKEN < 1433374092 151780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not amnesiac. only temporally unreminisced. < 1433374121 112313 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433374512 36694 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iboqdpaumrljjaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1433374601 402738 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote chicken < 1433374602 588811 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :304) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 605) There's British KFC? Kent < 1433374627 141804 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the monqy one could be boily < 1433374650 81658 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433374707 738848 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:710:6a01:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433374780 978540 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433375025 318933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you monqy < 1433375064 459771 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :D < 1433375084 80665 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433375087 351586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: does that mean you are monqy < 1433375121 565137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the broth thickens < 1433375129 292711 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but monqy is not currently here < 1433375134 270527 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ < 1433375151 204629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433375153 761203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl/Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1433375155 494802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: i haven't seen em for a *long* time < 1433375158 836847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen monqy < 1433375159 12448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen monqy. < 1433375191 210329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: what information do you have that makes you sure boily is not monqy twh < 1433375200 55064 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret < 1433375207 776263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1433375242 712570 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was given a programming test. Which was not fizzbuzz. < 1433375280 57307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433375281 165529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski/"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1433375294 762119 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1433375304 928565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433375305 985730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1433375307 165315 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shachaf what are symmetric lenses < 1433375328 347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy who are you < 1433375347 298392 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm nys :< < 1433375354 90107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not monqy hth < 1433375360 594800 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i'm serious i'm not! < 1433375387 746465 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433375396 990549 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw a branch of lens called "symmetric" and i was wondering what it was all about < 1433375438 525644 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433375478 205435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433375486 242828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are a few different meanings of the term < 1433375503 511742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that branch refers to the "(g a -> f b) -> g s -> f t" kind < 1433375557 828232 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION squints < 1433375567 799357 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the edit lenses thing? < 1433375665 669769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is g a Functor or ContraVariant < 1433375669 970182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry, was idle for a moment there (cooking supper and washing dishes). apparently I'm monqy and/or mnoqy? < 1433375686 159004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the latter, this would seem a subset of profunctor lenses?) < 1433375705 651405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g is Functor < 1433375709 411971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433375714 696728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you get contravariance because it's on the left side of the -> < 1433375724 28086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen mnoqy < 1433375724 203617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen mnoqy. < 1433375731 594063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's the theory. < 1433375741 908705 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1433375755 140856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm < 1433375762 466704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. well. chickens exists. Canada exists. I'm not mnoqy. qed. < 1433375787 237377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a fine argument, although you should include some pho or poutine hth < 1433375804 670070 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think today i just managed to get a hold of why an initial F-algebra is a thing < 1433375815 679952 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have the mental capacity to grasp these symmetric lenses < 1433375834 43788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial F-algebras are great < 1433375839 614775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambek's lemma is p. nifty < 1433375858 597971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the usual category thing where it's obvious < 1433375862 130345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote TomLeinster < 1433375862 305975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TomLeinster says: In subjects such as number theory and combinatorics, some questions are simple to state but extremely hard to answer. Basic category theory is not like that. To understand the question is very nearly to know the answer. < 1433375923 28643 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :c: < 1433375975 776357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one day, there'll be a Vietnamese poutine. it's going to be glorious. < 1433375997 752658 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's lambek's lemma. < 1433375998 801872 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1433376015 838881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: on that day you'll be poutine your place hth < 1433376024 149748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lemma named after lambek < 1433376036 140588 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that explains it < 1433376063 331041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says that an initial f-algebra is an isomorphism < 1433376069 886287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.indiana.edu/cmcs/categories.pdf < 1433376088 961376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 44 < 1433376141 504973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I think they mean g : a -> Fa? < 1433376312 943723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas my experience with vietnamese cuisine consists of 2 visits to a place in trondheim that were both disappointments. i don't think they were very good cooks. < 1433376366 772418 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how do we know f.g = id_A on p46 < 1433376383 922465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, my impression of the soup was "dishwashing water" < 1433376454 700281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good proof < 1433376465 162218 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :( < 1433376591 810605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the pork meat was sour. although maybe that's me, i keep having trouble with the ham slices i buy from the grocery shop. < 1433376653 721780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now i only buy it because they keep sending me coupons for it) < 1433376781 712368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: diagram chasing hth < 1433376809 19327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't looked at the proof, but this being CT that has to be the answer < 1433376814 788204 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::s < 1433376831 411016 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "by initiality" but i can't guess what that means here < 1433376871 375554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think that's what diagram chasing is hth < 1433376875 630383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an initial object is one that has exactly one morphism from it to everything < 1433376881 977628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"initiality" probably means uniqueness < 1433376889 633279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or existence. < 1433376921 884198 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one way to go from F a to a and back?? < 1433376927 167400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably it means "this thing is equal to that thing because there's only one arrow between those things" < 1433376932 576193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, then is has be general abstract nonsense hth < 1433376935 612745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1433376978 16148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+to < 1433377001 288524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does my brain punish my jokes by making me forget grammar < 1433377017 277913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this abstract nonsense is p. specific < 1433377537 818343 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433377706 758544 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433378381 295203 :Lyka|Away!~scat@odin.lesidhetree.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433378381 470851 :Lyka|Away!~scat@odin.lesidhetree.com QUIT :Changing host < 1433378381 470936 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1433378571 27476 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION comes to the conclusion that "good translations" of Evillious Chronicles are a myth < 1433378849 592825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Esowiki201529A14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43141&oldid=43129 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+8) 10/* Quiney */ < 1433379002 516402 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433379531 952210 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433380677 782805 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433380819 867564 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1433380848 185425 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433380848 361108 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jrarseykypofvsbq QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433380853 965134 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/session NICK :heroux < 1433380857 819930 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/session QUIT :Changing host < 1433380857 995537 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-odyuzilcgameerzb JOIN :#esoteric < 1433381413 837707 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433381540 522040 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433382245 229684 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ABIOLOGICAL CHICKEN < 1433384686 267269 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's yellow and equivalent to the axiom of choice"? < 1433384697 195818 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'guys, y'guys, I think I know the answer to this one. < 1433384715 904497 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :free brillo? < 1433384748 28033 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :free willy is an orca < 1433384765 850007 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zorn's lemon. < 1433384840 699331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought it would be the Bananach Tarski theorem. < 1433384884 693398 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that entail the axiom of choice in ZF? < 1433384896 35745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1433384911 147179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. < 1433384915 351640 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433384922 871609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only applies to one set, after all. < 1433385052 884252 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433385087 181936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1433385111 778005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a lemon isn't equivalent to the axiom of choice either. < 1433385212 766538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a class lemon < 1433385255 516856 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433385263 341342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when zorn gives you lemmas, make lemmanade < 1433385331 375694 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's hard to imagine how it would entail the axiom of choice. < 1433385411 996284 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How do we select an element from each of the elements of this collection of nonempty collections?" "Oh, that's easy. Just use this way of disassembling a 3-ball and assembling it into two 3-balls of the original size." < 1433385469 288763 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lemma < 1433385470 187510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433385546 959623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i suspect that having the axiom of choice for sets of cardinality less than a given one doesn't imply it in general. < 1433385567 167608 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That definitely sounds like the sort of thing that would be true. < 1433385600 677112 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I just thought of a wonderful axiom. < 1433385610 435909 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :Scj1000 < 1433385620 518454 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contradicts ZF, but maybe ZF could reasonably be weakened to accommodate it. < 1433385630 192388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1433385655 307198 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axiom: if S is an infinite set of sets, then there does not exist any function f with domain S which maps each element T of S onto an element of T. < 1433385667 144624 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, all infinite cartesian products are empty. < 1433385731 118949 :Scj1000!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeoDude < 1433385770 535975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds tricky, too many obvious counterexamples e.g. non-zero ordinals... < 1433385789 434026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(von neumann ordinals) < 1433385800 887088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :map 1,2,3, ... to 0 < 1433385806 265933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka the empty set) < 1433385844 16137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433385899 727661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that "onto" should be "to", right? < 1433385918 764956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"onto" has additional implications < 1433386018 234373 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1433386038 82698 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't think the additional implications would be meaningful the way I used the word. < 1433386205 66845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1433386391 257938 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, here's a totally unrelated idea. < 1433386439 8064 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weaken the axiom of power set so that it merely asserts that given a set, there's another set containing all its *finite* subsets. < 1433386537 213064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm are we sure that cannot be proved directly < 1433386554 701006 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still define real numbers, I think. As long as you can get cartesian products of two infinite sets. < 1433386576 193244 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now real numbers may form a proper class. < 1433386592 98266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433386596 506984 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I'd better go to bed. < 1433386608 383383 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God b'ye. < 1433386613 280762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, please sleep before you unravel logic and the universe < 1433386636 281988 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433389298 343030 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433389310 711105 :GeoDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433389798 348471 :password2!~password@197.77.66.75 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433392252 232322 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1433392658 114933 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433393394 838743 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized something blindingl obvious. < 1433393438 968643 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want unix type security on windows, jsut create a new user with no admin privileges, and log in as that user < 1433393511 307550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everyone had done that in the XP days, most of the viruses etc would never had worked < 1433393525 858315 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need xp pro to do that < 1433393536 599852 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh rigt < 1433393614 333461 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: XP home had no non-admin accts? < 1433393635 529212 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probabl had no gui for doing it maybe < 1433393636 303348 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real ones < 1433393644 786373 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes @ oren < 1433393651 679248 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1433393657 785021 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meen, correct < 1433393671 125824 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1433394406 2991 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433396639 375999 :password2!~password@197.77.66.75 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433398718 674725 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1433399423 522711 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433399788 76592 :SoundGoddess!~hathor@184.101.152.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433399817 923850 :SoundGoddess!~hathor@184.101.152.197 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1433400280 1995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: XP Home didn't even have the advanced security settings. < 1433400299 283726 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only a subset of the ACL settings XP Professional was capable of. < 1433400400 763500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mainly in explorer the security tab on XP home was deactivated and stuff like that) < 1433400454 623970 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might very well be, that XP Home under the hood would actually be capable of handling the ACL. There are some third party tools around that claim to be able to set those < 1433400488 798476 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even re-enable the security tab. But of course, Microsoft did never recommend it, never supported it and third party tools messing with windows internals... meh) < 1433400512 106790 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433400514 609524 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would also have gotten unix type end-user experience with an unprivileged user account in windows xp < 1433400533 76484 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can't join a AD-domain with XP Home. < 1433400545 467963 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the official way at least :D < 1433400615 402500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course < 1433400621 553180 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :XP Home has a guest account that is enabled per default < 1433400627 224276 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's a good thing to have. < 1433400638 880924 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Good old XP times... < 1433400647 257780 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you still running on Windows XP? < 1433400647 433367 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: am i? < 1433400661 648974 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's what I was asking... < 1433400661 824705 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: we could let laurie" mahonlpbworld.com on 01/ 10 to 4, then that is not an option. huble, amanda subject to the message that do not have the option of " truing up. < 1433400704 629736 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess fungot doesn't have access to environmental variables. < 1433400704 844117 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: our will group 408-501-7853 p 408-501-7861 f michelle montague-bruno director of the week of the handle came off the " an event of any technical difficulty, to provide you a low. group about adding the demand contracts that we < 1433400732 261864 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was more garbled than usual. < 1433400811 154192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is playing corrupt < 1433400811 329924 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for the next and employees. or, you can efficiently. cadogan < 1433401026 733940 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433401049 411283 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433403001 635808 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on a spec for a language defined on top of data structures. Not just lists, as in lisp. The base language must support strings, lists of mixed types, and dictionaries from strings to mixed types. < 1433403033 752546 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, JSON and YAML work, for example. < 1433403051 293306 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As does python < 1433403165 959897 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And PERL Data::Dumper format of course < 1433403360 580283 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, it has no fixed syntax, it is amorphous. < 1433403628 682587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping < 1433403681 917176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: N.t. < 1433403902 55327 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't got a name for it yet. < 1433403986 544893 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make an interpreter sometime around whenevuary < 1433404106 810209 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should literally call the language 'insert name here' < 1433404220 662866 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a program is a block. A block is a mixed list of strings, dictionaries and lists, where the first item must not be a string. < 1433404287 420483 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The items in a block, are strings = comments, dictionaries = class/object thingies, and lists = statements < 1433404353 141620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a statement begins always with a string. < 1433404613 339980 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain reserved strings are used for control flow, otherwise the string is a variable name. (Because of this variable names can be as long as you want and contain any character.) < 1433404787 241288 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, never mind, I can do without. < 1433404823 299732 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait that wouldn't work < 1433405499 170192 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :example statement in JSON syntax: ['if',['x','=',3],[['stdout','print',"It's three!\n"]]] < 1433405573 699851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ok, so how exactly would this differ from lisps besides not always having the function name at the first place of a list? < 1433405648 523624 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would differ in that classes are dictionaries, you have mutable variables, and it's imperative. < 1433405675 561131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: lisps have mutable variables too < 1433405683 317471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use them imperatively < 1433405905 657559 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, within a block, comments are just strings, e.g. [['stdout','print',"Hello world\n"],"This is a comment"] Hence, the code can be translated from one format to another, reformatted, turned into BSON, etc, and the comments retain their place. < 1433405933 814432 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? you could add such comments to a lisp program too < 1433405956 417826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people use such strings embedded in code as doc-strings in some languages -- I'm not sure if it happens in any lisp yet < 1433406070 246810 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is a lisp dialect. But lisp dialects afaik are still generally defined with the program being a string of characters, rather than abstractly upon a data structure wihout reference to its representation < 1433406134 340342 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might actaually write the implementation in scheme < 1433406145 93785 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: the definition is _written_ that way, but at least starting from r5rs there's an eval functino that takes an abstract representation, and the rest of the syntax is designed to make that work < 1433406202 770098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, all the syntax the language has can be used inside a quote, and it will get you data that represents all the useful information of the program source, and you can eval it < 1433406229 410906 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there might be caveats about r7rs modules, I don't follow, but this is how r5rs works) < 1433406341 449017 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually modeling much of the features off of javascript. < 1433406341 703964 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433406347 540369 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433406640 788288 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully I can also define a 'presentation form' that includes HTML markup that makes the code pretty < 1433406726 2259 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433407088 17428 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433408295 902780 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433408324 57523 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433413008 93065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433413977 518751 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433414569 529319 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433415054 997309 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433415439 952285 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433415631 658537 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433415712 831635 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: clojure uses docstrings like that too, at least < 1433416764 182375 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433417211 594374 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: APOPLEPTIC CHICKEN < 1433418246 529850 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:710:6a01:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433418994 70348 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433419069 779408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433419176 751921 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433419386 725798 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433419403 593838 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1433419407 315609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ush < 1433419409 242429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ugh < 1433419413 830153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki admins, what should we do about http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BFQ&diff=43135&oldid=0 ? < 1433419462 956419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's original or has been copied from elsewhere, and a page about a single program, if it's warranted at all, probably shouldn't just be its source code < 1433419473 100607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no idea how easy it is to search for fragments of BF code online < 1433419565 642859 :xcourier!~xcourier@unaffiliated/xcourier JOIN :#esoteric < 1433419724 962772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh hi, I was trying to find you < 1433419733 211462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi b_jonas < 1433419767 901004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, you can assume that if I'm not on IRC, contacting me via any other Internet-based means (apart from /possibly/ trying to identify and contact other people who know me in real life) won't work either < 1433419787 826183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I didn't try any of those < 1433419802 155802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just passively waiting if you're on irc and checking < 1433419830 947622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I was thinking about ayacc, and specifically C++ support for it, and now I think it's actually *much* more difficult than I thought < 1433419880 46338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's multiple things you can trip on, some of them not trivial to fix, and some of them not even easy to even work around in such a way that you at least get compile errors before segfaults < 1433419934 920144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that said, sending me an email will at least see I see the message next time I get online) < 1433419954 881754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're still interested about this stuff, I can try to tell the details, but for some of the details I have to do more reading up still because I realized I actually don't know some rules of C++ as well as I thought I did < 1433419963 367936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of those C++ stuff is even relevant here < 1433419974 171980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am interested; I know I don't know the rules of C++ well enough to really get something like this working < 1433420038 660363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the problem, I don't know them enough yet < 1433420059 580346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the worst part is that the "rules of C++" aren't enough because there's lots of non-conformant compiers < 1433420078 905569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to learn more because I think it's relevant to me even without ayacc < 1433420090 44716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't worked on ayacc for a while < 1433420091 668775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been busy at work < 1433420102 570133 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed, the snapshot didn't change < 1433420103 148150 :xcourier!~xcourier@unaffiliated/xcourier PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1433420146 595603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing that there's a market at least gets me thinking about it again < 1433420159 779666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll abandon the asm backend because it's clearly a ridiculous thing to do < 1433420162 544103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was fun to work on < 1433420165 44016 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1433420211 477613 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I'm really a market. I'm not planning on using ayacc in production at all, though I might try it out just to convince me it works better than ordinary yacc or to find bugs or something. < 1433420262 557065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely better at finding bugs in yacc input than actual yacc is < 1433420267 263976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, not finding them < 1433420268 936946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but explaining them < 1433420286 703377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1433420301 35982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there was something else I wanted to ask about, but later < 1433420311 243066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'll tell some of what I think about the C++ support < 1433420319 74508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of this may be inaccurate, I need more time to think < 1433420328 730414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I definitely need more feedback, so I'm going to ask about ayacc < 1433420392 284835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on < 1433420412 407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust preparation http://nethack4.org/esolangs/preparation.bfjoust < 1433420416 616128 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_preparation: 51.2 < 1433420422 178128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it got deleted from the hill somehow, presumably me trying to get a different program to #1) < 1433420441 259402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2, neat < 1433420478 603761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on an improvement to margins, not finished yet though < 1433420514 843635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it does rather move away from the original idea of the program a little, given that it can actively win (i.e. doesn't require opponent suicide) on tape lengths longer than 12 now (although not all the way up to 30) < 1433420543 463754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is soemone reinventing Lisp with square brackets and commas instead of the smooth parentheses and no commas? < 1433420736 829304 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433420888 162958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so anyway, you said that ayacc does no dynamic allocation, and allocates all the variables on the stack, which is a great start, but there's still some things that can trip you even if you do that, and some of them are hard to avoid and obvious to try to do < 1433420918 387248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the particular example I'm worried about the most, though not the only thing, is putting the types the user defines into a union < 1433420936 574388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, so I'm hoping to be able to optimize out the union < 1433420945 674230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm I don't but that's something I want to do in the future < 1433420954 805256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, ayacc is internally strongly typed, but the user program might not be < 1433420964 325909 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that using a union is actually something you may want to do, and in fact if the yacc rules don't declare the types but access it like $1.foo then you can't even avoid it < 1433420968 338848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1433420984 333118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm not saying that using unions is always a bad thing, but you have to use them very carefully, < 1433420998 524203 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433421013 40530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're one of those few things that will work correctly with C, but can do the wrong thing silently without compile time errors if C++ types are involved as (recursive) members of the union < 1433421040 744418 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unions are kind of similar to other things you aren't doing, like putting the data in a malloc'ed buffer < 1433421077 243407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the tricky part is that even if the yacc interface wouldn't require them, you may still want to use unions < 1433421094 186607 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem I have is that I don't understand how unions work in C++ < 1433421098 752202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ayacc currently has another problem that's related to this, which is a known bug < 1433421118 653284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I did understand at least partly, but it turns out my understanding was totally wrong < 1433421120 140111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is that if you don't assign to $$ it just ends up with uninitialized data < 1433421123 448412 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now I have to read up on them more < 1433421133 576897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flex's solution to this is to unconditionally initialize $$ with $1, which might be the wrong type or might not exist < 1433421147 20760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but implements the implicit "$$ = $1" < 1433421147 789236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there are other things that can trip you up, I might mention them later < 1433421153 661030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, bison, not flex < 1433421170 943884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ayacc implements the implicit "$$ = $1" as sugar, it converts it to an explicit "$$ = $1" early in the process) < 1433421211 911960 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433421225 846373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let me ask some things. (1) does the yacc compatibility actually require you to expose a union to brace rules? < 1433421250 970293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brace rules"? < 1433421261 306936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :code between braces in the yacc grammar < 1433421269 952422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on how that code is written < 1433421286 845798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you give no type information, it exposes YYSTYPE to the code < 1433421305 684857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, yacc doesn't actually require YYSTYPE to be a union; it normally is, and it is if you tell yacc to define it itself using %union < 1433421311 274338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you declare it manually it could be something else < 1433421318 360480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433421338 825536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that code specifically mentions a union field, $1 (or $1 with in the matching declaration), ayacc /currently/ implements it as a union field but I want to change that < 1433421385 490605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you define it as a %union, and some symbols are declared strongly typed and some as weakly typed, then isn't ayacc output still required to access the members of the union explicitly? < 1433421412 882889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is < 1433421427 101799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) do you have specific plans or requirements on what compilers you're planning to support or not support for compiling the output of ayacc, especially with regards to pre-C++11 compilers in C++ mode? < 1433421432 711325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I think the correct solution to this is to tell people it's a bad idea in the documentation < 1433421444 769170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping for the output code to be as portable as possible < 1433421463 379154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could potentially go the C-INTERCAL route where you specify the standards version when specifying the language < 1433421536 332959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we could try to write a polyglot of every standards version < 1433421656 935674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The version of what language? C/C++ or yacc? < 1433421681 414748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or C++ < 1433421771 508283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that will probably not be necessary, or possibly necessary only for some very old C++ compilers, but I'm not sure, I'll still have to learn the union rules and figure out all this stuff. < 1433421780 732522 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433421789 166462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well, I first learned pre-standard C++ < 1433421800 38900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, everyone of our age did. < 1433421806 269414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this still shows in some cases, e.g. I have a tendency to write my own exception classes < 1433421917 540571 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any plans about how the non-C++ C output will handle destructors of symbol data? < 1433422012 133043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: let them go out of scope on the stack, tell people not to put dynamically allocated stuff there < 1433422019 317958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, if they do, be willing to leak it < 1433422030 245795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the yacc applications I can think of offhand would be fine like that < 1433422043 350068 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433422044 757806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but... no I don't think so < 1433422055 677413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently the one of the D compilers got a huge speed increase by effectively using a user-space sbrk rather than malloc as its allocator, and never freeing anything) < 1433422088 752574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's called garbage collection, many people believe it can be faster than freeing anything explicitly < 1433422097 334890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might or might not work depending on what you do and how you do it < 1433422104 808051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, about ayacc, < 1433422108 96803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1433422121 407283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, garbage collection normally at least attempts to free things when memory is exhausted < 1433422155 330438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if the grammar fails to match? will you leak resources in that case, or will you correctly exit all the functions? < 1433422201 395830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh, the leak can /only/ happen on match failure < 1433422202 586458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can correctly unwind everything when the grammar doesn't match, then it's probably not hard to correctly unwind in any reasonable case, because you just need to inject a token that causes the grammar to not match, < 1433422221 965031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the grammar does match then all the objects get unwound by the grammar rules themselves < 1433422222 651997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless of course the grammar is already in a state that it'll definitely match rsn) < 1433422233 635216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm < 1433422247 813109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens now if the grammar fails? < 1433422250 902786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this implies that you can get working unwinding by adding an unwind alternative to every single rule < 1433422265 570055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, if the grammar fails I throw an exception (or longjmp in C) and just cut out the broken bit of the stack like that < 1433422269 283427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would complicate the generated code immensely? < 1433422276 283343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and slow it down too < 1433422278 799095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433422281 455575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why exceptions are so useful in this case < 1433422292 828830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433422298 305924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1433422329 712238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever need to _copy_ a symbol data value, as opposed to move it, even if it's sometimes currently implemented as copying because that's easy in C? < 1433422343 927553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't < 1433422352 94762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yacc actually has linear typing < 1433422354 81695 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that at least simplifies things < 1433422365 190033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be a big problem even if you had to copy them, but it makes things simpler < 1433422373 618845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why match failures confuse things because you have all these linear values and no way to delete them < 1433422385 772367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: one thing I do need to do, though, is return them from functions and pass them to other functions < 1433422403 252859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what ways can the moving happen, other than returning a single data value from a function as the return value? < 1433422404 829466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be done entirely with moves, and I'm hoping it can be done with RVO too but I'm not sure how < 1433422415 600632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I need to return two values from the same function < 1433422426 374936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :returning a value from a function is actualyl the _easiest_ case < 1433422428 249427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in this case, one of them is always a POD integer, so we can return it via pointer/reference if necessary < 1433422429 272396 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433422437 785167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best case, the one I'm hoping for < 1433422451 886561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :returning two values is still fine < 1433422457 901998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: basically what we do is, we return the value from a function, then we pass it through a chain of function arguments until it's consumed < 1433422485 673178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it's like actually a product you're returning, not a discriminated union where the symbol data value is sometimes present and sometimes not < 1433422512 144727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "chain of function arguments"? < 1433422528 948140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean you pass a pointer to the value to functions you call? < 1433422539 883716 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433422581 45089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean I pass it to one function as an argument, that function passes it to another function, and so on < 1433422598 800641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh yes, I am returning discriminated unions by hand :-( < 1433422611 58195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a little awkward < 1433422616 803490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh by the way, is there a testsuite that exercises most of ayacc's functions? < 1433422631 944536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, I've mostly just been using random .y files plus a few manually written ones < 1433422635 646589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs a proper testsuite really < 1433422659 486860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: none of that them is _really_ a problem, I'm confident averything like that can be solved, I'd just like to know what you're doing before I can even think about this. < 1433422672 537133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going offline for about 10 minutes, I'll be back soon < 1433422677 693525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: bbiab < 1433422837 918168 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433422937 458334 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ayacc a product of ais523? < 1433423176 457948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes < 1433423192 912176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: http://nethack4.org/media/alex/ayacc/ayacc.pl < 1433423238 279057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433423244 672017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: back < 1433423250 783909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked at ayacc's C output? < 1433423275 803231 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, not yet < 1433423299 586753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to look at it, though I'm a bit worried it can depend so much on the input that I might miss some cases that only come up if I feed it Bad Practice input < 1433423303 265703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should give you a good idea of how it works < 1433423305 690020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like union and untyped stuff < 1433423312 628447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will definitely have to look at it, yes < 1433423313 62116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you compare it to the -v output < 1433423319 474229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1433423322 908646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm it doesn't do many Good Practice-dependent optimizations < 1433423336 201155 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433423430 89449 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433423509 588363 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lirael < 1433423530 43779 :lirael!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1433423587 777759 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :snortti < 1433423592 653839 :snortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1433424395 114031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to get it working before doing more optimizations < 1433424405 244258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are quite a lot already but they're to the state machine rather than the actual code) < 1433424495 697237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433424604 338690 :impomatic_!~digital_w@31.185.153.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433424643 765467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm planning to go home soon, is there anything more you want to ask before I go? < 1433424752 184389 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433424850 716173 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433424865 450805 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I miss anything? < 1433424867 520088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1433424869 31727 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1433424915 249685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433424931 433865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433425050 318681 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing right now < 1433425547 670086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, HTTP connections aren't working for me right now (they start to work but stall) < 1433425632 811748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433425655 739069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433425763 712070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, typical wifi < 1433425774 797809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, actually there's like a thousand different problems that can cause that) < 1433426638 68677 :impomatic_!~digital_w@31.185.153.201 PART :#esoteric < 1433427016 22771 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433427950 631377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433428442 345260 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433428515 328881 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433428652 243731 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433428696 485399 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433429342 74740 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433429804 810123 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1433430499 764232 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433430661 220661 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1433430748 284793 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:710:6a01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433430899 98181 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433431017 24748 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433431855 685651 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433431887 796563 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433431986 438016 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1433432089 58862 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433432194 669305 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433432653 3916 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433433678 534410 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433433686 15696 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433434474 609716 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433434500 184291 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1433434904 444028 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433435043 838647 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433435097 747701 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1433435181 815480 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my initial interest in Factor is starting to wear off. < 1433435361 490630 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iboqdpaumrljjaga QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433435669 172122 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I'm trying to learn Pure Data. < 1433435867 802116 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot for the life of me even manage to debug the prime? function in the tutorial I'm doing. < 1433435909 613424 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably be better off learning Erlang. < 1433436513 579925 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433436870 588869 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433437112 706396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ABCs14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43142 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+2709) 10created page < 1433437133 724602 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433437148 752229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Paul252014]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43143 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+55) 10Created page with "Created the [[esoteric programming language]] [[ABCs]]." < 1433437282 920392 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433437429 381270 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433437459 239636 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433437519 356502 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433438095 113693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ABCs14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43144&oldid=43142 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+41) 10added "hello world" example < 1433438177 834801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunk14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43145&oldid=40231 5* 0373.184.106.177 5* (+0) 10 < 1433438260 157697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43146&oldid=43071 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+11) 10/* A */ added [[ABCs]] < 1433438613 470959 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433441480 401253 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's bullshit? 08 and 09 are not valid C integers < 1433441622 773097 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the whole octal thing is pretty stupid < 1433441711 419288 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they have octal, of all bases? Base 60 might at least be useful < 1433441730 743126 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or base 12 < 1433441796 750415 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it would be nice to be able to write a value like 300 seconds as 5:00 < 1433441889 396475 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a value of 18 inches as 1'6 < 1433441951 681403 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1433442413 161366 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Calculator thinks octal might be useful < 1433442534 542406 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define b60(i) ((i)%100+(i)/100%100*60+(i)/10000%100*3600+(i)/1000000%100*216000+(i)/100000000%100*12960000) < 1433442570 855154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome PDP legacy stuff. < 1433442652 903748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this requires 500 for five minutes, and 240000 for one day. Hmmm < 1433442903 645997 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define bTM(i) ((i)%100+(i)/100%100*60+(i)/10000%100*3600+(i)/1000000%100*86400+(i)/100000000%100*18144000) < 1433442906 982784 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously things should use base 2 exclusively. < 1433442934 149007 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice, but our systems mostly use mixed bases < 1433442961 975976 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially base64 should be replaced with base2. :P < 1433442987 678649 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer base 255 < 1433443015 195259 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not 7 bit clean. < 1433443015 371028 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I once wrote half of a C-string based bignum thing using that base) < 1433443032 590205 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hah) < 1433443080 517026 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that base of a power of 2 are easier < 1433443108 232222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, there's zzo38 who'll write negafibonacci base arithmetic when I just mention how strange it would be < 1433443128 308312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've written strange base arithmetic stuff just to see how easy it is < 1433443169 930804 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :251 is a prime base tat fits into a byte < 1433443191 818043 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :252 has a lot of factors < 1433443209 327546 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoving base 2 in ASCII is just hilarious. < 1433443238 329209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including GF(128) arithmetic: http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=863110 < 1433443497 932494 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and yet GNU decided to add a 0b01010001 notation, for people who apparently can't read 0x51 < 1433443543 500367 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433443596 84102 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 0121 < 1433443902 745162 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433444064 100471 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433444098 700727 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433444159 78505 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: That's also going into C++. < 1433444301 583256 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1433444609 370041 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433444821 355428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433445404 974717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah, I never understood why that would be useful < 1433445708 324125 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433445981 29887 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for people who can count to 24 quickly (is 0b1000000000000000000000000 equal to 1<<23 or 1<<24?) < 1433446071 177898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i 0b1e24 < 1433446089 597433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that makes me cringe inside < 1433446103 421082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0b1e0b11000 < 1433446124 604642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0b1e0b11e0b11 < 1433446136 542144 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433446140 842268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now we're approaching one of those efficient prefix-free encoding of naturals < 1433446210 118389 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, where'd the -free come from... < 1433446419 730321 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What I have in mind is something like this: To encode a positive natural number, write it in binary and drop the initial 1 digit to obtain a list of digits; the empty list is encoded as 0; any other list is encoded as 1, followed by the encoding of the length of the list, followed by the list itself.) < 1433447374 71054 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1433447412 787458 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shld use the encoding of one less than the length... < 1433447433 314906 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenstein_coding < 1433447984 83490 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433448064 614390 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433448769 796238 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdromsvomwkdudof JOIN :#esoteric < 1433450063 39758 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433450697 130675 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433450711 18645 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433450711 195478 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1433450711 195561 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433451220 937051 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433451613 416879 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1433451858 57558 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433452001 601028 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdromsvomwkdudof QUIT :Quit: . < 1433452131 877731 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433452313 246617 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433452812 908104 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433453107 584132 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433453658 963954 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433453754 935319 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433453967 923448 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433454111 966412 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433454116 30747 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1433454116 906972 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 042100Z 14008KT 100V170 30SM BKN240 24/07 A3011 RMK CI6 SLP195 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1433454128 248145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1433454128 858758 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 042053Z 27011KT 10SM FEW012 21/10 A2982 RMK AO2 SLP098 T02060100 58006 < 1433454146 656741 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. only 24/07 and I'm sweating like a sweaty pig who sweats profusely. < 1433454156 174354 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe the bike ride is a contributing factor.) < 1433454235 865284 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433454363 845739 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433454693 498899 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-214.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433454700 784324 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-017.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433455112 843343 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433455225 285966 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433455455 19574 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1433455551 837329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433455595 120040 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433456422 302971 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433456687 551884 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433456758 882634 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433457301 836240 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433457755 33240 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433459385 890096 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433459955 956941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433460203 548658 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:710:6a01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433462925 436533 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463604 818068 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgvrmxapoomlnndu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463607 952049 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? < 1433463608 744063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>?: No such file or directory < 1433463669 985744 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. the above has... problems < 1433463700 327546 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly, 0 should be to the left of the other numbers < 1433463791 873423 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondly, the letters on homerow are not the most common letters < 1433463837 549537 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433463855 416039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463858 750473 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thirdly, ? should be the default and / should be shifted. ? is used a lot more than / in writing < 1433463889 230847 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similarly, the [] should be where () are and vice versa < 1433464177 808917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak is thataway hth < 1433464340 773897 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/1234567890-=qwertyuiop^çàasdfghjkl;èzxcvbnm,.é\!@#$%?&*()_+QWERTYUIOP¨ÇÀASDFGHJKL:ÈZXCVBNM'"É is the Most Bestest Layout :D < 1433464373 671707 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433464433 566487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that québécois < 1433464481 1127 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Canadien Multilingue Standard. < 1433464526 688971 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically there should be a dedicated ùÙ key, and àÀ should be to the left of the return key...) < 1433464578 847309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1234567890+\qwertyuiopå¨asdfghjkløæ'ZXCVBNM;:_ where i had to press space after a few dead keys hth < 1433464630 130437 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only ^¨ is dead here. other dead keys are on AltGr and ISO level 5. < 1433464698 227255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|±@£¢¤¬{}[]½¬§¶`~}°{«»µ<>´ < 1433464700 525251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `¨^ here < 1433464752 507606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah plenty more with AltGr < 1433464758 518292 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a distinct lack of dead keys here. < 1433464815 447415 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234567890qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? is truth < 1433464821 518390 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¹²³¼½¾¸łœ¶ŧ←↓→øþ~æßðŋæßðŋħijĸŀ´zx¢“”ʼnµ―·­¡£¤⅜⅝⅞™¿˛ΩŁŒ®Ŧ¥↑ıØÞ°¯˘Æ§ÐªŊĦIJĿ˝ˇZX©‘’♪º×÷˙ < 1433464855 971866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ŊĦIJĿ < 1433464857 93941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+014A LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ENG] [U+0126 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH STROKE] [U+0132 LATIN CAPITAL LIGATURE IJ] [U+013F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH MIDDLE DOT] < 1433464926 646227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ĸ < 1433464927 455247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0138 LATIN SMALL LETTER KRA] < 1433464944 218176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN CAPITAL LETTER KRA < 1433464945 376160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433464948 584836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1433464978 543833 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433464981 905426 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're expecting Unicode to be logical. this is a bad habit you should depart from. < 1433464989 215188 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyellos! < 1433465009 535976 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnyello < 1433465023 596649 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you capital letter kra? < 1433465046 480146 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1433465240 790096 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433466528 816881 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433466529 42378 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1433466529 42517 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433467214 453535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433467417 497413 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433467491 486048 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433468061 503683 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: OILED CHICKEN < 1433470501 367801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433471139 140029 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433471719 520225 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1433472044 614886 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433472088 954131 :gde33!~gde33@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433472427 992354 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433473393 487323 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433474533 27128 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433474772 805078 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433474858 958303 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433475798 435960 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433476110 290988 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433476325 431225 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433477702 676296 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433478014 690733 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1433478017 726900 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :0b1_ken0b1 < 1433478093 554085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his friend arthur ditto < 1433478156 760618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478157 841640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh/twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1433478171 539256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478172 753153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship/friendship wisdom < 1433478181 942319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478183 185516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck/Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1433478202 711642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? functor < 1433478203 596078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories < 1433478241 122931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about functors between non-small categories? < 1433478264 423474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky < 1433478307 533413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to add "(small)" at the beginning, but apparently no one calls them small functors. < 1433478316 342572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1433478317 417237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478318 416564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott/elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1433478329 236913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478330 591921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lystrosaur/The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1433478342 424852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also absent. < 1433478361 910927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? < 1433478401 999298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg you're right he must have invented a time machine < 1433478452 107809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: synchronicity hth < 1433478496 661576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478497 825314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs/1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1433478516 252192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that all about < 1433478517 846635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478521 872729 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fukyobrainz/fukyobrainz is yet another brainfuck derivative however with identical instructions. < 1433478534 624112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478538 279205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd/hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1433478541 415384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478543 647483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah/aah ambiguous acronym here < 1433478556 78641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's broken < 1433478569 736414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone didn't slashlearn < 1433478574 566242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/aah //' wisdom/aah < 1433478576 679699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433478650 911123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433478654 312046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir le; ln -s ../bin/learn le/rn < 1433478656 677215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `le': File exists < 1433478667 940279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld le < 1433478668 756840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 5 04:32 le < 1433478685 891627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's that bug < 1433478701 630319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1433478721 621574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478722 881605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 3: wisdom/le/rn: No such file or directory \ Learned 'le/rn': le/rn may or may not work < 1433478747 634104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wat < 1433478754 210480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was remarkably accurate hth < 1433478767 409759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may and may not work < 1433478768 286903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 3: wisdom/le/rn: No such file or directory \ Learned 'le/rn': le/rn may and may not work < 1433478775 96132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm le/rn; ls -s ../bin/slashlearn le/rn < 1433478777 343959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ../bin/slashlearn: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access le/rn: No such file or directory < 1433478790 176617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433478799 108773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i'll admit i'm confused < 1433478817 866234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478818 772259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/le/rn: No such file or directory < 1433478823 533732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1433478830 134694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1433478831 125332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -s < 1433478856 583283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1433478858 227357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s ../bin/slashlearn le/rn < 1433478860 126625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433478864 516617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478866 793883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478869 845332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1433478871 891265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478872 111606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478873 293147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433478873 468802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433478883 755071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may and may not work < 1433478886 263953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478888 420318 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433478908 751604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, what was the difference? twh < 1433478934 229955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1433478943 542141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't link it to slashlearn < 1433478945 91991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1433478972 919630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478974 764094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478998 577187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478999 535441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433479033 980993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn seems to be working rn but it didn't earlier < 1433479035 863631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433479051 327685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains, brittle briny bricks < 1433479085 310326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479087 443886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs/xargs is for piping snowmen. < 1433479096 225283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479097 293787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯/¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1433479097 469412 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |         |            | < 1433479097 645079 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o     º¯`\o        º¯`\o < 1433479123 803874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good < 1433479125 62445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479126 36041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ /The final frontier. < 1433479136 452309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1433479226 493619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that even accessible with ? < 1433479234 918870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433479235 854546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479251 930370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? " " < 1433479252 289837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? ' ' < 1433479253 111323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479253 419935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479258 959059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also put it in so that you can make ``` at front instead of `` if you want it to fix the locale settings < 1433479262 836912 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1433479304 783688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/'``' < 1433479305 579060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :export LANG=C; bash -c "$1" < 1433479308 269433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well space normally is pretty inaccessible, so it all fits. < 1433479396 56439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a cardinal? < 1433479429 883200 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433479443 990463 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433479510 676416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479511 743668 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1433479516 174160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479517 259484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coonspirator/A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators. < 1433479591 408795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1433479592 229262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1433479598 584034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inaccurate hth < 1433479645 515195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? natural transformations < 1433479646 346176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural transformations are just morphisms in the category of functors < 1433479683 695736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/the category of functors/a functor category/' wisdom/natural\ transformation < 1433479685 814626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433479689 118689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what's the point < 1433479696 752227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/natural transformation < 1433479700 7378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433479734 360594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? devious < 1433479735 174643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb < 1433479746 877735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what was wrong with the original < 1433479751 238048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i made it < 1433479754 128191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433479778 455322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that there's no one category of functors, there's one for every pair of categories < 1433479789 134749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1433479806 483119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also saying "X is just a morphism in the category Y" is silly because you define the category Y by saying what X is < 1433479813 351593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it didn't seem very wise < 1433479818 538463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i won't object if you put it back < 1433479829 67164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe deleting others' wisdom is rude < 1433479834 761733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put it back? < 1433479866 837231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was supposed to be silly, although "no one category of functors" is a point < 1433479897 376977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that silliness already exists elsewhere in the wisdom database < 1433479900 391587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the categorical expert < 1433479912 267060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuh uh hth < 1433479957 209833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical / From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical < 1433479964 976693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway put it back twh < 1433480024 42774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry but you're the very model of an modern ct expert hth < 1433480036 640560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1433480045 837405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curse you, muphry! < 1433480046 555487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is more of a ct expert < 1433480050 916404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and look where that got him hth < 1433480064 812735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't he pretty close to you < 1433480081 758365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1433480090 825187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in the same city or so < 1433480122 74226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :opposite coast hth < 1433480126 847494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433480132 838311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's moving a bit closer < 1433480135 966160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still far < 1433480147 710641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dual concept, then < 1433480170 361829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he used to live in ct < 1433480181 617590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the ct expert thing is about, see < 1433480185 965295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433480223 824135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480224 788354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1433480235 193987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliot < 1433480236 90593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433480253 719428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot invented cats. < 1433480255 873769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot invented cats. < 1433480262 695158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn natural transformation/A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. < 1433480265 210247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «natural transformation» < 1433480318 619348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we got rid of the word "just" < 1433480320 482024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress < 1433480368 350181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot inveted cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480372 530066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot inveted cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480373 548233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot invented cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480375 759402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot invented cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480416 939632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1433480419 86557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1433480453 930629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't a category of functors from X to Y when you do Y to the power of X? < 1433480504 207084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the definition of power? < 1433480529 572056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exponent < 1433480543 581329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the definition of the exponent? < 1433480594 435295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess you can have a monoidal category and talk about the adjoint to (a (x)) < 1433480623 707957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1433480649 959007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "copower" means "tensor". < 1433480667 459434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Copower rrupts. < 1433480669 349562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'copower': Copower rrupts. < 1433480689 755862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480690 192711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480690 806857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480691 48677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :field/There are two kinds of fields. Those where you can divide (except by zero), and those where you can conquer. < 1433480691 428887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480691 604527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce/Lettuce is a vegetable with two dressings, join and meet. < 1433480691 852983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck/Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1433480692 217145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480692 526932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverness/Inverness is a city in Scotland. The ring road isn't multiplicative. < 1433480693 473325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morphism/A morphism is just a natural transformation between two functors on 1. < 1433480705 565380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can have addition, multiplication, exponents of categories, and it agrees with the natural numbers (the finite discrete categories being the natural numbers here), such as if you do the category X to the power of 2 it is same as to do X times X < 1433480819 270243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1433480820 96278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1433480834 327111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mahjong < 1433480835 79024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjong? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433480848 595662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn lord/The way of the Lord is not just. < 1433480850 614229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lord» < 1433480878 367494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not just what? < 1433480890 38832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ezekiel 18:29 hth < 1433480915 586038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1433481035 187646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433481036 334027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1433481038 797781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433481039 935246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial order/A partial order is just a small thin skeletal category. < 1433481045 825436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be talking too much. < 1433481073 893428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? OK < 1433481074 850827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481078 427362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poker < 1433481079 310673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481082 545172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? AmigaMML < 1433481083 266318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaMML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481128 69809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pipe < 1433481129 12902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481143 14208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn pipe/This is not a pipe. < 1433481145 215774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «pipe» < 1433481154 983291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pipe < 1433481157 80131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not a pipe. < 1433481158 528282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this < 1433481159 483254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a word < 1433481211 369524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nah < 1433481212 404004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no ambiguity here < 1433481218 270105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn nah/no ambiguity here < 1433481220 284293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «nah» < 1433481223 400531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Famicom < 1433481225 324965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481250 343889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433481252 743247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'famicom': Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433481437 368210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does an overoptimistic webcomic check < 1433481437 865212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? matrix accounting < 1433481438 717634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix accounting? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481448 127720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1433481449 45166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1433481474 331718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Lisp < 1433481475 179509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481478 158441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Forth < 1433481478 893830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481522 486890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RDF < 1433481523 216765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481525 502420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XML < 1433481526 336466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481536 555345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bible < 1433481537 352711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481570 314353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1433481572 673428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «forth» < 1433481631 634812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was just thinking of what sort of language would fit in with Go and Forth < 1433481649 190772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i decided there was none so i gave up hth < 1433481654 727937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433481681 694200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm writing Go code these days < 1433481691 970044 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433481828 445477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1433481853 807398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we break HackEgo < 1433481868 340601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1433481884 738718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1433481884 914262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1433481933 638811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to fix it < 1433481944 977543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot do that < 1433481969 810792 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't go used in fungot? < 1433481969 986459 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: we signed on the document the events of the financial, project director of the us. < 1433481972 381954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433481984 708822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: not that i know of < 1433481987 199288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1433481987 375058 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1433481997 453637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo38 didn't say that you can, only that you have to hth < 1433482018 396450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is correct. < 1433482024 44957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's fun that is used in fungot. < 1433482024 260091 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it will you have the power: california department of water and power. < 1433482032 597614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433482034 997190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah. well i commend zzo38 on knowing the difference hth < 1433482092 960308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a book that says: "People are trustworthy if they try to do what they say they will do. People are creditworthy if they can do what they say they will do." < 1433482107 516283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good definitions imo < 1433482142 81885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433482153 426791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433482169 957789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you still have to fix HackEgo < 1433482179 490126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433482286 565973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433482294 915397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to fungot, you have the power. < 1433482295 91025 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: has a wonderful and you guys i recommend the best, if you see on the map of the 10 trading days of the equity and bond markets don't offer refuge. < 1433482297 204270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433482326 362434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433482334 57165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet/random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? < 1433482338 924694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't trust that fungot statement, i've hear california has a drought < 1433482339 100416 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i wan to make. for the enron price target the key the off peak. 25301 < 1433482343 509285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heard < 1433482390 143991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks for fixing it tdh < 1433482390 729369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet < 1433482402 601762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433482403 302148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1433482464 671205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: fungot isn't on a very trustworthy style at the moment hth < 1433482464 884017 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to the time of the help of the: ( iii) the number of the my cdnow. < 1433482471 553550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433482471 729258 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433482477 704978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433482478 481541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to add all of the other stuff too? < 1433482481 434534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has an enron style? < 1433482481 610182 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: first and foremost you < 1433482536 645469 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1433482536 821247 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1433482571 178313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: drink me! < 1433482571 372242 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: five winsome girls, from twenty to sixteen: each young man that calls, i say! < 1433482576 824904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to confuse enron with http://www.eltron.co.il/ < 1433482622 150865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when people talked about enron i thought they were talking about a company that made parking gates and other sorts of automatic doors < 1433482637 878570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's some hideously bad keming tdnh < 1433482658 856113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was back when people were talking about enron < 1433482678 71440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i imagine my english wasn't too good < 1433482685 787191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was young and foolish < 1433482687 714425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does lt an n sound the same in hebrew tdnh < 1433482690 418613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1433482696 490067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm old :'( < 1433482703 464036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1433482796 425801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to add a wisdom file for "mahjong"? < 1433482827 305445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not. Are you? < 1433482882 809035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to write < 1433482894 968951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I didn't write. < 1433482986 254120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1433482988 103354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rtf': RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1433482997 130630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: these kinds of gates: http://www.eltron.co.il/img/0389/340.jpg < 1433483006 451589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you said RDF, never mind. < 1433483032 851644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's OK; now you have the one of RTF too. < 1433483040 323549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! < 1433483041 111208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/: Permission denied < 1433483049 88672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1433483067 266543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rich burlew < 1433483068 129335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rich burlew? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433483080 8147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FAQ < 1433483080 823163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAQ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433483195 726516 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433483629 849143 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a double take at this email title: "Your help is desperately needed for Nigerian refugees" < 1433483643 383137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It describe on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Graph what a RDF graph is, therefore you can make up something funny of it and make up a funny guess what the letters "RDF" is stand for, such as recursive acronym or whatever else it is. < 1433483645 378400 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was an email newsletter from the UNHCR) < 1433483776 349755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: might wonder how many spam filters it got caught in < 1433483811 723248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you define "planar graph" without geometry? < 1433483822 671790 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, use kuratowski's theorem. < 1433484775 698980 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433485213 848011 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433485337 657723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433485458 106054 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433485605 32410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cats < 1433485605 312653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1433486117 258090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why it should be illegal? < 1433486334 141000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think cats should be illegal. < 1433486341 495700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are practical. < 1433486947 738510 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433487595 473339 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net NICK :IdentificationDi < 1433487614 600626 :IdentificationDi!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1433487753 788362 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433487787 403118 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433487787 592589 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433488922 51725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord < 1433488922 227460 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: " only but frogs," said he, " for i never was so happy before," though why these two children who had never been so nearly choked in all her life. < 1433489015 839143 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm guessing Rwandan Defence Forces < 1433489512 982283 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why exactly did C89 disallow mixed declarations? < 1433492925 232944 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433493009 583383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixed?? < 1433493083 237879 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess that it's so that stupid compilers can generate the function prologue and lay out the stack before generating any function code < 1433493150 556878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that. Yeah, same guess here. < 1433493235 180482 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks can declare variables though, so I'm not sure it's limited enough to actually help such a compiler < 1433493265 814355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a compiler could move declarations to the top anyway < 1433493302 355782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'd scan the function body for declarations < 1433493314 563878 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean it would parse the whole function first? do you have enough RAM to do that? < 1433493337 625745 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1433493346 687440 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have in fact just parsed the whole file into an AST :) < 1433493353 187148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: does the term "single pass compiler" mean anything? remember that computers at the time had preciously little memory. < 1433493364 86464 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I know single pass compilers. < 1433493396 902168 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll produce rather inefficient code thoguh < 1433493439 390930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433493458 949064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why real programmers wrote their code in assembly language < 1433493507 661727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do use assembly language if writing the program for Famicom < 1433493516 669538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? famicom < 1433493517 343041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433493523 901939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiled languages were (and to a great extent still are) a trade-off between time and space consumption of the executed code on the one hand, and managability and maintainability of the source code on the other. < 1433493552 956246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wouldn't you use e.g. Japanese for writing the programme for Famicom? < 1433493581 81123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The message on HackEgo is just a joke; Famicom is a computer machine < 1433493607 118110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I should add portability to that list < 1433493608 355208 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written an ugly one pass compiler once < 1433493626 862781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other purpose of compiled languages such as C and so on is to make it (at least partially) portable to compile on other computer too < 1433493632 671359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: was it for brainfuck? < 1433493648 666562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433493664 791974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's one reason I use C; it can then compile for other computer too) < 1433493665 890603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAMICOM IST DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE? < 1433493715 175120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/SZEZcEei < 1433493716 297172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real german word is COMPUTER < 1433493739 318277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the real English word too. < 1433493744 536818 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at all those push pop instructions it generated :D < 1433493748 528249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the english word is computer, not COMPUTER < 1433493792 468461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is case-insensitive. < 1433493845 402088 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even generate move instructions :) push r0, pop r1 was generated if a value was needed in another register :D < 1433493911 15016 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess you could call it a Rechenmaschine < 1433493928 102091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a * b was compiled as pop r1, pop r0, mul r0, r0, r1; push r0; < 1433493933 317322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen the CPU called a "Rechenwerk". < 1433493942 231255 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: looks legit < 1433493984 966675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MagicKit assembler uses two passes; I made an extension which allows an optional third pass (although the third pass isn't reading the input file, but is rather executing code in an area that has been set aside for this purpose) < 1433493992 363547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose this happens when you have a stack machine as intermediate representation and don't bother to write a register allocator, for example because that's kind of hard.) < 1433494028 865317 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: exactly :). < 1433494044 617356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can very easily compile it in a single pass < 1433494062 118398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: You could do optimizations when writing them out though? (Such as keeping track of pattern to match) < 1433494084 273380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These still aren't best kind of optimizations, but at least it would be something.) < 1433494085 38325 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :) < 1433494093 769881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some very easy optimizations that could be done < 1433494102 302472 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like replacing push r0; pop r0; with nothing < 1433494110 125823 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and push r0; pop r1; with mov r1, r0 < 1433494121 598055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :German seems like it would be so much easier to learn than Finnish. < 1433494166 589906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/qXSBIAiW <- but looking at the source code I don't want to have anything to do with that compiler anymore :D < 1433494249 688144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just directly emit code when ever a bison rule is matched :) < 1433494302 107499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| KEYWORD_IPROCEDURE IDENT { printf(".label _%s; iproc\n", $2); } KEYWORD_IS statements KEYWORD_END {" < 1433494305 604613 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that :D < 1433494422 144029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be able to use a second parser which does optimization < 1433494458 453777 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433494467 208040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether zzo38 has anything to do with attribute grammars < 1433494524 364995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/ZbkyphzQ <- that's the language it compiles < 1433494557 234692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously all locals need to be declared before the function body :) < 1433494665 581349 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with syntax highlight the language doesn't even look too bad < 1433494719 864 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fmnssun.ibone.ch/rhailargue/string.rl.html < 1433494826 455467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously there are only two data types: register and byte.) < 1433494854 689007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(althought technically everything is untyped and just assumed to fit into a register) < 1433494885 766405 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but for read/write accesses you can specify @BYTE or @REG prefixes) < 1433494958 954781 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the project is dead ;) < 1433495009 126499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody had interest in the project. < 1433495129 385386 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433495223 559267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what happens when yo do theses (is that the plural of thesis) without an industry partner but with the university as your partner < 1433495244 207196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no real interest behind projects without partners from the outside world :D < 1433495280 794375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... BFQ? < 1433495292 203081 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF commands are replaced with digits 0-9 < 1433495304 890003 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Quine he shows doesn't even contain any digits but just brainfuck instructions? < 1433495423 299930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run as a brainfuck program it seems to output only non printable characters < 1433495699 377090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm reading something wrong :( < 1433496113 56261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the numbers refer to raw byte values. < 1433496144 361805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the output of the program starts "03 03 01 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 01 ..." and that matches the start of the quine code. < 1433496183 229218 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd fit. < 1433496467 672640 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uploaded a file x-chromosomes that isn't used anywhere o_O < 1433496501 204525 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433496686 294726 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn pollen. < 1433496710 784051 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pollen count is so high right now it affects people without pollen allergies as well. < 1433498226 347591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433498329 409742 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433498329 641343 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433500413 767542 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433501287 64860 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433501423 167914 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... summer sucks as a heliophobic. < 1433501471 448276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you're not above the arctic circle. (I guess?) < 1433501508 934666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman_. one form of therapy is exposing you to multiple suns at the same time to help you with you phobia hth < 1433501511 227341 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433501685 339184 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess... < 1433501691 887791 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@mobile-access-bceeea-189.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433502711 675808 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433502855 743173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPA Strings default to VARCHAR(255) < 1433502867 911270 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know. < 1433502893 942659 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: When using JPA always check the schema it generates, because otherwise you will have Bugs you didn't think of < 1433502908 922709 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when suddenly your app crashes when storing Text longer than 255 characters) < 1433503768 863494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LOREMIPSUMDOLORSITAMETCONSECTETURADIPISCINGELIT CHICKEN < 1433504045 389173 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433504597 782523 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-odyuzilcgameerzb QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433504740 377968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433504980 784427 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@mobile-access-bceeea-189.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433505023 675943 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505144 71872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505419 973074 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505425 680907 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :By how much can you slow down a video without a viewer noticing? < 1433505453 47247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. to allow buffering) < 1433505621 666217 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433505669 157227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of stopping hard you slow down the video ever so slightly as to "gather time" for the buffer to refill < 1433505795 65698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably isn't a general answer to this. For example, consider a music video on one hand and a slow pan over a city on the other. < 1433506464 460848 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could annotate sequences that can be slown down. < 1433506496 706880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could annotate where it is possible to introduce some mini-breaks < 1433506508 293545 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when a movie shows a blank screen for a scene switch < 1433506517 987255 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that blank screen can easily be extended for a few milliseconds I guess. < 1433506648 73946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't think it's worth to slow down the video to catch up with buffering < 1433506665 558068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: if the download is too slow, then that won't help much in the long term < 1433506670 156536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll eventually have to halt < 1433506678 82945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this can be possible but I don't think it's practical < 1433506685 326657 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are cases where you pre-buffer for about a minute < 1433506687 576356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then press play < 1433506695 679199 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mid-movie you need to stop and pre-buffer for another minute < 1433506708 691928 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamically slowing the video down a bit could prevent that from happening < 1433506715 12505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't think so < 1433506747 930994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those kinds of things are because the download stops or the speed slows down very much, because some point of the network (possibly an endpoint) gets slow < 1433506804 532754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1433506819 837127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if buffering speed is just about playing speed and then suddenly starts to slow down < 1433506829 868857 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to halt eventually if you keep playing at the same speed < 1433506837 472680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's common < 1433506847 955158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe < 1433506890 389962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can always just increase download speed :D < 1433506905 266765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounded like something at least interesting to experiment with. < 1433506935 648927 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why solve the traffic problem if you can just build wider roads < 1433506939 703753 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1433506974 813299 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that is a different topic. < 1433506980 609872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Busses are the future) < 1433506999 797606 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. except for transmitting diseases busses are probably not that *cool* < 1433507015 152689 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're better of travelling in your own car when it comes to that. < 1433507066 547017 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not travelling at all < 1433507169 450293 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433507276 415519 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433507539 91477 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433507618 575337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1433507839 282678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :png 25 (12.89%) 3097 (28.44%) 123 < 1433507858 719317 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have a PNG coder in your project and most lines of code are in PNG. < 1433507875 138642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 2789 C lines. < 1433507892 269564 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stat tool should do some basic binary file detection < 1433507935 576135 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. at least there are 1.4k lines of assembly code < 1433508116 810725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1433508425 961019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433508432 739355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes more sense in terms of priorities < 1433508450 765591 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix > postfix > infix < 1433508461 463910 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or infix > prefix > postfix? < 1433508486 262906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1433508490 262242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a!++b! < 1433508506 238144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where Prefix+ is increment, postfix ! is faculty and infix + is addition < 1433508526 443528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fac(a+1) + fac(b+1)) < 1433508626 210652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ! infix would actually be array access < 1433508629 54947 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1433508667 905678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I parse that :) < 1433508708 525097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ! prefix is not < 1433508745 468434 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433508777 9643 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!a!!b could be almost anything. (!a)!(!b) if prefix > infix < 1433508946 742968 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if postfix > infix as well < 1433508957 462754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :((!a)!)!b < 1433508986 363604 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix > infix > postfix? < 1433509309 675942 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm yeah < 1433509314 654091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Parsec wouldn't like any of those :( < 1433509369 914962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless < 1433509565 157566 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1433509571 635191 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops for !a! at !a < 1433509613 681936 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :=^.^= < 1433509669 56853 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I tell parsec to parse that as (!a)!? < 1433509832 200253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433509833 65499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1433510012 319881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it loops forever on just "a" < 1433510083 461608 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511041 721701 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. I have my system now :D < 1433511258 321080 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511269 637589 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511353 489153 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433511437 831714 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511700 350622 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511816 623422 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.!,~a!2! would be the faculty of the bitwise negated second digit of the length of a < 1433511977 824041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :faculty? what. < 1433512084 496219 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> runParserWithString parseExpression ".!,~a!b!" < 1433512084 708267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :((!((~a)!b))!) < 1433512148 115170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorial, I think. < 1433512151 812941 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1433512152 966084 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right :) < 1433512155 496557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :False friends. < 1433512185 350210 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433512553 921108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German it's Fakultät < 1433512568 781960 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means Factorial and/or Faculty :) < 1433512714 654007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,1,3,12,20 < 1433512715 820324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1433512740 913565 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,3,12,20,120,840 < 1433512741 909897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1433512749 181616 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433512763 307040 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1,3,12,20,120,840,6720,60480,151200 < 1433512899 743923 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oes 20,120,840,6720 < 1433512900 375225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n!/6.[1,4,20,120,840,6720,60480,604800,6652800,79833600,1037836800,145297152... < 1433513099 346413 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't governments just use a tax system like < 1433513108 700919 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They state how much money they need for a given period < 1433513116 779268 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 1000 Dogecoins. < 1433513168 470403 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :all citizens together earn 6000 dogecoins a year < 1433513208 282419 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who earns 60 dogecoins a year therefore pays 0.01% of what the government wants < 1433513231 641213 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 10 dogecoins < 1433513275 816953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly because taking 10 dogecoins out of the income of someone earning 60 dogecoins is felt to have a different proportional effect than taking 1000 from soneone earning 6000. < 1433513283 631756 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory you could have to pay more than what you earnt < 1433513330 156474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I think your 0.01% was off by two orders of magnitude.) < 1433513333 783741 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1433513336 761894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 60/6000 < 1433513338 793868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0e-2 < 1433513344 435528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (60/6000)*1000 < 1433513346 258653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.0 < 1433513350 817477 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1433513360 533345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1433513362 809119 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433513366 660797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm bad at math < 1433513368 667826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :60/6000 is a fraction of 0.01. 0.01% is a fraction of 0.0001 < 1433513395 875893 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I'm only good in math subjects that don't involve too much numbers. < 1433513436 171877 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433513441 279088 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume there's one really rich person < 1433513446 599462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_tax < 1433513447 723773 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that earns 5000 dogecoins < 1433513457 831650 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5000/6000)*1000 < 1433513459 654219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 833.3333333333334 < 1433513488 965962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 1000/6000 (as in, 1/6th) out of everyone's income. < 1433513542 921877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think people generally argue that taking 1/6'th out of the income of someone at the poverty line is different from taking 1/6'th out of someone earning lots of money, even though it's the same fraction. < 1433513562 527222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm sure you can find people saying that progressive taxation is bad too. < 1433513574 174307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how progressive < 1433513590 159107 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do stupid things like uhm < 1433513597 47864 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :People earning less than 50000 pay 5% < 1433513604 630749 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people earning less than 70000 pay 8% < 1433513607 690302 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and above that 12% < 1433513637 506066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although 5% isn't realistic of course :) < 1433513645 654367 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's way too little < 1433513666 687461 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 49000 * 0.08 < 1433513669 317815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3920.0 < 1433513671 349027 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 49000 * 0.05 < 1433513673 513230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2450.0 < 1433513677 645247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51000 * 0.05 < 1433513679 494336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2550.0 < 1433513680 885281 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51000 * 0.08 < 1433513682 624860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4080.0 < 1433513695 196590 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4080 - 2450 < 1433513696 720315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1630 < 1433513774 889377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it's generally "X % for income from 0 to A; Y % for income from A to B; .." and so on. Although I've heard of the "you lose money by earning too much" situations. < 1433513808 89621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with 1/6 flat tax < 1433513814 216257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5000/6 < 1433513816 308539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 833.3333333333334 < 1433513818 149175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433513818 714047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1433513831 748011 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (10/6000)*1000 < 1433513833 125091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.6666666666666667 < 1433513839 767046 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (30/6000)*1000 < 1433513841 376513 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0 < 1433513848 816485 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap this really is 1/6 out of everybody < 1433513867 630327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you can take the /6000 out of the parens and put it under the 1000. < 1433513887 51637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x/6000)*1000 = x*(1000/6000). < 1433513913 291178 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433513917 210500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but instead of making "hard borders" you could have something more gradual perhaps? < 1433513920 681912 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as uhm < 1433513936 874047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :income / 10k < 1433513946 702453 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning 40000 pay 4%, 70000 pay 7% < 1433513971 865405 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course, you'd have to consult how many people earn how much first < 1433513985 654402 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because at the end of the day if the tax system can't cover the governments spending it's a bad tax system anyway < 1433513992 400871 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a bad government < 1433513993 404965 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both < 1433514120 986207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there countries with value-added-taxes only? < 1433514123 541023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be interesting. < 1433514169 856568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any places that have differentiable function instead of tax brackets. I've only been exposed to the UK and Finnish systems, both of which have brackets. (Although the Finnish system never really talks about the brackets -- they're used to compute the overall marginal rate, but other than that it's just the single percentage you usually see.) < 1433514210 93304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both also have a non-empty bottom bracket with a 0% tax rate (aka tax-free income allowance). < 1433514294 629427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're even vaguely the same magnitude. (£10600 vs. 16500€ ~> £12000) < 1433514364 887311 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :income tax here is around 5% < 1433514382 883689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty low, compared. < 1433514388 891815 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not the only tax < 1433514394 484802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but still. < 1433514409 534975 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay taxes to the government < 1433514417 741246 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(federal government) < 1433514419 349060 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to the local < 1433514434 421587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the local tax is somewhat around 120% of the income tax < 1433514459 940872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have 5000 fed tax, you pay 6000 local tax, meaning all in all the gov gets 11000 < 1433514482 729282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so roughly 1/8 of your salary goes to taxes < 1433514511 658002 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 1/8 of the salary you get after taxes by your employer < 1433514519 711346 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which takes away another 1/8 :) < 1433514527 171925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One difference between the UK and Finnish systems seems to be that while in Finland the state and muncipal taxes are all part of the same tax reporting and deduct-directly-from-salary system, here only the UK-wide HMRC tax seems to go from the salary, and there's a separate "Council Tax" you pay monthly as a separate thing, based on where you live and what sort of apartment you have. < 1433514538 897483 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning if you earn 6000 a month 4500 will be at your dispense < 1433514541 687000 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest is taxes < 1433514621 729142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the yearly "Personalsteuer" but that's a fixed amount < 1433514627 115089 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not very much < 1433514635 537355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 CHF < 1433514639 379262 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where I live) < 1433514688 960576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is the Council Tax? < 1433514708 575095 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average for a usual not-very-rich but not-very-poor person? < 1433514716 674945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not income-based at all. < 1433514734 536479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on which "council tax band" your apartment is in. < 1433514743 893999 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's the most common council tax band? < 1433514760 978422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, the council tax band assignments are based on some decades-old valuation that is completely disconnected from reality. < 1433514774 285946 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how much is that most common tax band? < 1433514776 807811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's generally "more expensive place -> higher council tax", so I guess it's correlated with income. < 1433514807 688065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea, but not terribly much. Less than £100/month. < 1433514850 899165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's some transfer of money from the state to the local authorities, or how it works. I'm new here. < 1433514931 868635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, the council tax rates vary quite wildly on which council you're in. < 1433514959 90865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the average in London in 2008 was £1268 a year, so a bit over £100. < 1433514981 897340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranging from £680 to £1490 for "band D". < 1433515096 852959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the other bands are fixed ratios (from 2/3 to 2) of band D. < 1433515202 114765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433515543 77414 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :31 degrees < 1433515545 997118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's getting hot < 1433515586 676290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1433515587 320036 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 051420Z 06006KT 010V120 9999 FEW065TCU SCT070 32/15 Q1019 NOSIG < 1433515649 995881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LZSH < 1433515651 490765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1433515668 328576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LSZH < 1433515669 234829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 051420Z VRB02KT CAVOK 31/16 Q1020 NOSIG < 1433516350 262531 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqadfyhpbxqkxmao JOIN :#esoteric < 1433517111 170804 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433517400 389661 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433517509 442264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many computer program doing audio-related stuff define tau instead of pi? < 1433518253 954695 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433519710 778859 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1433519814 416402 :password2!~password@197.77.3.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433519831 526786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like defining tau by circles though; I prefer: e^(i tau)=1 < 1433520337 545540 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :ayylmao < 1433520369 675689 :ayylmao!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :kline < 1433520433 296259 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433520601 785163 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433521037 610865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, the entire significance of that formula is that complex exponentiation is rotation < 1433521049 868640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still defining it by circles < 1433521147 158954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define e^x by a infinite series, and if you put complex numbers in, that is what it makes. One significance of such series is you can calculate the derivative to also be e^x. < 1433521261 26109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it doesn't seem circles < 1433521290 974005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's true but then you're just saying stuff about arbitrary infinite series < 1433521325 289530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the link to exponentiation and trigonometry for the identity to actually be meaningful < 1433521402 588662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't completely arbitrary; it has d(e^x)=e^x dx < 1433521464 820548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You still haven't said what d is. :-( < 1433521502 861557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a derivative operator < 1433521537 212565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is dx? < 1433521544 679969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, all this time i'd been thinking it was the cellular boundary < 1433521598 192136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dx is the derivative operator which is already applied < 1433521849 780705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43147&oldid=37072 5* 03Paul2520 5* (-9) 10/* References */ replaced History of QED link < 1433521918 922157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the type of d? < 1433521956 84987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "d" by itself is not something that is in use by itself (although Euler's differential operator can be used by itself if you pay attention properly!) < 1433521997 160092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is the type of d. Maybe I can figure out but I haven't done yet < 1433522336 780090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, did we not have this discussion like 2 weeks ago < 1433522350 438892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a convenient notation, you know that full well < 1433522359 703856 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgvrmxapoomlnndu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433522404 704975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a well-defined differential operator and it's usually written D, but it's not the same as liebniz notation < 1433522465 891484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use "d" by itself but it is possible to use "D" by itself, is what I said < 1433522524 274198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also obviously doesn't have a type because most mathematics doesn't use type theory < 1433522589 555218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but I don't remember getting a clear answer. < 1433522605 770055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I remember it zzo38 was saying that it was more than convenient notation. < 1433522651 204333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the notation d^2y/dx^2 for the second derivative is wrong. < 1433522674 641418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I convinced myself that it made sense once. < 1433522728 612401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you actually write d(dy/dx)/dx and then to try to calculate it properly, you will see what it actually adds up to. < 1433522731 875972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't necessary mean "type" in a completely formal way. < 1433522739 408474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that you write (d/dx) for the differential operator < 1433522755 172663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what sorts of things does it turn into what sorts of things?" < 1433522766 783730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the second derivative is (d/dx)(d/dx) = d^2/dx^2 < 1433522793 830573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it's just convenient notation, why does it seem to work so well? < 1433522840 463254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, although the (d/dx) is really Euler's "D" operator; it is just written as d/dx for convenience because Dy=dy/dx (if derivatives are taken with respect to x) for example. < 1433522871 612757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it turns expressions into infinitesimals < 1433522913 447937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:19 dylukes : let's assume we have `y = g(x)', and want to compute `d f(x,y) / d x' < 1433522916 466948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20 dylukes : interpreting this as a partial derivative, it really means `let y = g(x) in d f(x,y) / d x' < 1433522919 444037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20 dylukes : while interpreting this as a total derivative, it really means `d (let y = g(x) in f(x,y)) / d x' < 1433522951 237094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't know any sort of infinitesimals where that really works. < 1433522968 522132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't look like infinitesimals to me, even though they are often called that. < 1433523070 439565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the infinitesimals for which it works are the completely nonformal handwavy ones < 1433523086 735772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it normally just gets called a notation < 1433523096 474799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In "f(x) + df(g) / dx", the x in f(x) and the x in g(x) are different xs < 1433523116 265006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :df(x)/dx is both a binder and a consumer of x < 1433523371 152431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is because the x here is a variable < 1433523418 834990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43148&oldid=40602 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+76025) 10 < 1433523439 670327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean that \int dy/dx dx = \int dy? < 1433523442 60370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a constant then it is dividing by zero, and of course you cannot divide by zero. < 1433523540 247804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43149&oldid=41175 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+11455) 10 < 1433523642 437556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Paul252014]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43150&oldid=43143 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+23683) 10 < 1433523663 153891 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433523726 936220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43151&oldid=43123 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+46212) 10 < 1433523756 269972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43152&oldid=43151 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+1) 10 < 1433523858 24520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ACIDIC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43153&oldid=22183 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+26285) 10 < 1433523936 302257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43154&oldid=43147 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+35219) 10 < 1433524082 915643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now... < 1433524109 41364 :password2!~password@197.77.3.244 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433524233 304421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43155&oldid=43148 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-76025) 10Undo revision 43148 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524260 56912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43156&oldid=43149 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-11455) 10Undo revision 43149 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524295 195249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Paul252014]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43157&oldid=43150 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-23683) 10Undo revision 43150 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524400 731457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If C represents a constant, then: \int(2xdx) = \int(d(x^2)+0) = \int(d(x^2)+dC) = \int(d(x^2+C)) = x^2+C < 1433524419 780377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43158&oldid=43152 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-46213) 10Undo changes by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] < 1433524444 673922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ACIDIC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43159&oldid=43153 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-26285) 10Undo revision 43153 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524479 847180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43160&oldid=43154 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-35219) 10Undo revision 43154 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524516 255501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1433524597 205772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes he hasn't just made oerjan's and elliott's job harder... < 1433524798 817696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: shouldn't the constant be introduced when evaluating \int(dt), say \int(dt) = t + C ? < 1433524815 340193 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1433524848 775976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I suppose that is the other way too. < 1433525297 545789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, isn't dt=d(t+C) anyways? < 1433525335 892191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the point... < 1433525376 725286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, because dt=d(t+C), the "inverse" \int should return a result modulo addition of a constant, and that's usually denoted by the + C part. < 1433525436 985336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is same thing < 1433526603 812337 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-sydnbgwphgvswnoe JOIN :#esoteric < 1433526822 702762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What way can you get a pseudo-random number from a floating-point number as input? < 1433526871 59525 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433526872 464682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...discard the number... < 1433526958 852047 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/221/ < 1433526990 33717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I mean such that f(x)=noise and is always the same noise, and if you do f(-x) then you get the reversed noise < 1433527125 842227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, but you almost never define what you need precisely enough to give sensible answers. < 1433527942 783905 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433528100 817879 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433528843 491583 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something done properly you have to compile the program yourseld < 1433528856 720487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some good characterizations of the reals? < 1433528927 988620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the one by spivak in 'Calculus' was pretty convincing < 1433528953 953672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want characterizations other than "complete ordered field" or even anything related to numbers. < 1433528966 120451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. http://mathoverflow.net/q/92206 < 1433528976 208426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. well poop, I dunno < 1433529202 581203 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one with the closed points is pretty cool I have to say. < 1433529541 149343 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're then defining the reals as (0,1] x Z? < 1433529703 81977 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1433529872 522670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the reals/The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433529874 471703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «the reals» < 1433530138 984725 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How useful. < 1433530167 104965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you moving to mountain view twh < 1433530201 422029 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If I get the job (which seems really likely at this point), yes. < 1433530353 849130 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqadfyhpbxqkxmao QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530355 598746 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bhhshfoenjlveylz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530355 883975 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fjjctxsfqumcahwq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530615 597278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433530616 288298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433530627 439431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please improve twh < 1433530656 79068 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure about "universally" < 1433530719 209173 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433530965 648507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What did you think of your interview? < 1433530988 608963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently during my interviews they did a bunch of things they weren't supposed to do. < 1433531005 986964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite part of it was that they let me choose what one of the interviews would be about. < 1433531028 432357 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interviews were just a bunch of fun challenges; I had a pretty good time. < 1433531028 771005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether that's standard. < 1433531223 124443 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recruiter gave me a choice of two options for one of them. < 1433531265 785361 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1433531286 675667 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My impression is that the interviews went spectacularly. < 1433531303 885680 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the recruiter afterwards told me that all the interviewers said the same, so there's that. < 1433531313 542225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm < 1433531355 452832 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no guarantees but it really does sound likely that I've got it. < 1433531387 529270 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433531393 704676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, do you remember your interviewers' names? < 1433531400 672976 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I do not. < 1433531403 363848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably shouldn't say that in here anyway. < 1433531413 785487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if I did I distinctly remember only hearing first names anyways. < 1433531430 643290 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's *incredibly* unlikely that first names are unique in the Googleplex. :P < 1433531457 758381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was! < 1433531493 311336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it's less unlikely that they're unique in the SRE interviewer pool. < 1433531504 545380 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1433531516 155035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To which? < 1433531527 804412 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less unlikely they're unique. < 1433531559 479904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean that there are many fewer people in a position to interview you than Google employees overall. < 1433531570 105550 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh. < 1433531580 854917 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that many SREs overall? < 1433531666 476783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. reals are cutting edge in the field of rational numbers < 1433531717 479508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mahjong < 1433531718 123672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjong? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433531724 295217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? accounting < 1433531725 1466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ = 0 < 1433531808 153064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? codensity < 1433531808 744538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codensity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433531816 444493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonad < 1433531817 129608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. < 1433531906 182861 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433532222 259160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, mroman could easily be confused with the dual of a cormoran. < 1433532396 810685 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433532666 814557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traitor baru comroman < 1433532986 306093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. with data Color = R | B and data Tree a = E | T Color (Tree a) a (Tree a), T R E E E is an actual (technically, I'd prefer the root to be black) valid red-black tree < 1433533083 124497 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1433533518 382276 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okasaki has an exercise to implement a linear time fromOrdList for red-black trees, which turned out to be more interesting than expected) < 1433533750 95695 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1433533751 747341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'codensity': codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1433535124 599710 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433535571 435466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FlogScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43161&oldid=42039 5* 0363.232.95.4 5* (+0) 10/* Operators and builtin functions (very incomplete list) */ 7 5 * should equal 35 < 1433535635 513865 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/p5BSuZDj < 1433536194 95989 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433536266 788925 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone see me? < 1433536397 490573 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1433536564 782274 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :See whom? < 1433536647 92185 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433536674 790826 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arofklvhwevijcmb JOIN :#esoteric < 1433537319 667902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537320 527671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537320 712460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mockingbird/mockingbird is watching you.. closely! Is it mocking you? Probably. < 1433537321 583443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila/In a cruel twist of fate, vanila has come to #esoteric in search of wisdom. < 1433537323 59608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537323 631285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537324 23079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details for futher details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1433537324 559183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot/EgoBot is my arch-nemesis. < 1433537360 498233 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsezlfghtwmgkcxb JOIN :#esoteric < 1433537432 606984 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433538141 517566 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ouvbexwvwnowbvfz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433538370 987213 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433538635 920809 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433538636 537060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433538646 947431 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1433538647 698875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1433538655 748840 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1433538656 512616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1433538671 585664 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1433538672 427973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1433538679 701784 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? anywhere < 1433538680 301344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywhere? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433539290 778378 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433539964 756306 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtczffwdnitvizxs JOIN :#esoteric < 1433540183 897842 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433541097 346304 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433541296 791045 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I have been home for one day and 8 hours and I have finished my book :) < 1433541298 885492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:( < 1433541309 196842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you want more books < 1433541335 635349 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, unfortunately my book was volume 1 of the 2 volume edition of A Dance With Dragons, so I would like that book < 1433541368 368120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433541373 971383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you read other books instead < 1433541377 398355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am borrowing them from one of my housemates in York < 1433541388 642176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But York is like 90 miles away < 1433541437 601585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you coming here to have poutine? < 1433541480 799525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can make poutine in York relatively easily < 1433541487 166949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is in poutine sauce? < 1433541533 555357 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433541534 19522 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433541592 53217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to add a wisdom file for "anywhere" too < 1433541629 524604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that sauce can vary quite a bit < 1433541637 557307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all depends on what you want to poutine it < 1433541653 690362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who does? < 1433541708 30795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who < 1433541727 979696 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how does poutine differ from cheesy chips with gravey < 1433541730 758556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gravy < 1433541814 342713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one it isn't made with chips < 1433541821 767714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[heh heh heh] < 1433541875 116010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in hebrew they're called chips, actually < 1433541980 642355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think cheesy crisps would quite work < 1433542019 964162 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's dangerously close to nachos < 1433542053 579202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke's poutinerie has nacho poutines < 1433542081 232597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with salsa, sour cream, jalapeño peppers, and guacamole < 1433542092 133911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it seems dishonest < 1433543368 903487 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433544404 966950 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arofklvhwevijcmb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433544583 706262 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433544651 402107 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Client Quit < 1433544722 75834 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433544779 281407 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1433545205 156801 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433545400 423633 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutines also often have vin aigre < 1433545478 457132 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I grew up calling them chips. The truck that sells them is called a chip truck < 1433545507 776728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in England they call it a chip lorry? < 1433545632 947833 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are web cookies called web biscuits in England? < 1433546508 277346 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433546529 915925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any terminal emulators you can put a DLE code (or some other code) before any byte to cause it to always emit it as a character (in the PC character set, for example)? < 1433546708 422881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few VT100 graphics which aren't also in the PC set, although many terminal emulators do not seem to support these VT100 graphics anyways < 1433546748 502967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know of any terminal that's capable of doing that, but on the linux console I think you can define any mapping from characters of the terminal to characters in the VGA charset, and you can even use that mapping as the secondary mapping (which is by default the vt100 graphics) < 1433546783 431808 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, I think some line printers have such a code < 1433546903 895011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I think that's a two-level translation < 1433546953 447779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did do that; while it does allow accessing all of the characters it is a bit messy to do, because something internally causes it to get mixed up and therefore you need to activate the G1 set and then emit the high characters and the internal encoder will somehow then sometimes select the ones that were previously inaccessible < 1433547015 957800 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, for the linux console, you can try writing directly to /dev/vcsa* < 1433547106 387372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in my font, all the glyphs in the low control characters also appear somewhere on non-ascii unicode value, so you can use those < 1433547141 280617 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might be possible on the linux console in unicode mode too < 1433547172 707350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accessing the characters as mapped from high unicode values after setting the terminal to utf8 < 1433547243 958590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better way would be to just use a prefix code to access PC characters; otherwise you get ASCII and VT100 characters only < 1433547273 48182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would be easier < 1433547608 495689 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf fortress appears to simply output unicode < 1433547609 905370 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtczffwdnitvizxs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433548100 585344 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548207 918924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swiss Ephemeris testing program uses Unicode for the degree sign (it also has no option to use the current date); I made a shell script to use sed to change the Unicode degree sign into the VT100 degree sign (as well as to fill in the current date by default). < 1433548226 527903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could have changed the source-codes and recompiled it, but I didn't bother to do that.) < 1433548243 804720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433548271 758392 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548302 368807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are two problems with Swiss Ephemeris to be aware of if anyone else is going to use them! < 1433548655 563104 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548682 161628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer I can SSH into has no mail or C compiler or man pages or whatever, but from there it is possible to SSH to the computer that does have it. Both computers do share user files though. Do you know why? I don't know why they made it like that! < 1433548952 809610 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433552009 605499 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433552850 423896 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433553839 397542 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433554187 679442 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433554638 140368 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433554936 570101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn whitespace/see https://www.bing.com/search?q=whitespace < 1433554938 586783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «whitespace» < 1433555488 373735 :kokut!~ayy@81.202.203.91.dyn.user.ono.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433555752 996917 :kokut!~ayy@81.202.203.91.dyn.user.ono.com PART :#esoteric < 1433555771 709513 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433556161 190103 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433557172 117814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whitespace < 1433557172 948733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see https://www.bing.com/search?q=whitespace < 1433557697 540057 :alguien!~alguien_m@190.15.156.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433557850 833927 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433558235 191123 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433558321 497487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433558697 455059 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433558717 224308 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results at all? < 1433558729 873917 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bing you're awful. < 1433558919 241138 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.baidu.com/s?ie=utf-8&tn=baidu&wd=whitespace < 1433558944 646637 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the great suggestions on the righthand side < 1433558962 10457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :baidu knows what's up. < 1433559044 706887 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly does. < 1433559079 721374 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433559089 392902 :alguien!~alguien_m@190.15.156.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a weird book! interesting < 1433560363 323025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is my radio scratchy when I stand near it? < 1433560423 953040 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you have fleas < 1433560446 613405 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1433560519 348771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only happens with one of my radios, is independent of the channel it is tuned to, and doesn't happen when different people stand near the radio instead. < 1433560576 634515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also does not happen when it is playing a tape or CD. < 1433560706 171303 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're interfering < 1433560716 685910 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to clear yourself with the fcv < 1433560722 892375 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :FCC* < 1433560740 606454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get this problem with any other radio. < 1433560748 180756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, it is independent of AM/FM) < 1433560927 788849 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychic powers. < 1433560960 216670 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The radio is aware, and attemtping to respond to you. < 1433561200 95872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it < 1433561332 640075 :alguien!~alguien_m@190.15.156.175 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433561934 459381 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433562035 46958 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433562049 717660 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net NICK :f|`-`|f < 1433564278 885330 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With one of my old TV's I would get the best reception by holding the speaker wire antena really tight < 1433565617 32728 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1433567316 985296 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433567450 244742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Haskell < 1433567463 788653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1433567555 86358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trope < 1433567555 781950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trope? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567559 46821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? All The Tropes < 1433567559 745211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All The Tropes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567607 61829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn All The Tropes/A card game where you win if you collect *all* of the tropes. < 1433567609 75260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «all the tropes» < 1433567818 114486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1433567821 510235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1433567833 50602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc.dal.net < 1433567833 756851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc.dal.net? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567861 445185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1433567862 399479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1433567868 149480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? GeekDude < 1433567868 809464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567872 132404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MDude < 1433567873 343211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude is just a dude, with an M's courage. < 1433567887 877244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? variable < 1433567888 453185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567899 783111 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1433567901 25580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1433567901 682135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567949 591764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HTTP < 1433567950 276690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433567954 381233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gopher < 1433567955 115561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. < 1433568008 711065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe < 1433568009 420609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568012 498415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TeX < 1433568013 323994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568017 674606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1433568018 501130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1433568026 192876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Plain TeX < 1433568026 884295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain TeX? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568037 817132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? math < 1433568038 679291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568045 840259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ping < 1433568046 541485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568077 916568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Python < 1433568078 648628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568088 589983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Unlambda < 1433568089 236277 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568107 798679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HTTP/2 < 1433568108 485398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP/2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568431 923189 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43162&oldid=40485 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+24) 10 < 1433568460 392177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43163&oldid=40675 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-59) 10Removed shameless plug < 1433568790 364530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wordfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43164&oldid=40325 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+65) 10 < 1433568800 456981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pope < 1433568801 108207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pope? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433568804 518362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wordfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43165&oldid=43164 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+11) 10 < 1433568932 886758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wordfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43166&oldid=40386 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-881) 10 < 1433569076 43969 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://davidbau.com/complex/#z^%281%2Bt*4%29%2B%281-t%29 < 1433569083 803146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? / < 1433569084 526481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /: Is a directory < 1433569099 283788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1433569105 341021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43167&oldid=43146 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+14) 10Added bitoven < 1433569151 596488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43168&oldid=43163 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-4) 10It's not really WIP. < 1433569213 577249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43169&oldid=43168 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+77) 10Added a clarification to the while loop. < 1433569496 900397 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433570618 859819 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433570730 919186 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433570741 681318 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433570881 499893 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433570913 531982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how many files you didn't write. < 1433570930 563471 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many? < 1433571175 791774 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433571383 311744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot. I just queried some of them, many of which don't exist. < 1433572472 163879 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433572516 582617 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38:Hi < 1433572641 322494 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i've stabilized the language for now < 1433572757 854226 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see how the extension protocol works with 4FK Cuddlefish when the final component arrives tomorrow < 1433572793 920416 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1433572828 691321 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will have to add commands, but I assume they will be extension commands < 1433572929 64026 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have to make a for command < 1433572968 37117 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, my vision is getting blurry from fatigue < 1433572982 503478 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433573425 569119 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433574032 375607 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433574066 458019 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433574256 759975 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433577265 117943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /hackenv/canary < 1433577265 806619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1433577268 312734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful. < 1433577286 605298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell is there no tag?!?!?! < 1433577562 581507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do what? < 1433577594 737425 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To insert HTML into HTML < 1433577618 316321 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other language that needs < > ' & < 1433577648 281101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would it work for "" in verbatim? < 1433577687 601879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's the CDATA section in XML for that, but I'm not sure / don't think it's in modern HTML.) < 1433577689 624748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ? < 1433577751 154358 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now I'll just translate it in PHP... < 1433577761 192456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm wrong -- it's in the W3 HTML5 spec, at least. < 1433577769 76714 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1433577780 399120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't & care ]]> < 1433577797 782810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's bad if you happen to need "]]>", though.) < 1433577812 763452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, only in foreign content. < 1433577815 771048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, then. < 1433577825 8335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CDATA sections can only be used in foreign content (MathML or SVG)." < 1433577826 165292 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1433577899 847857 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,1+1+,1+1 < 1433577947 721538 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> run $ runParserWithString parseExpression ",,+1++1+,+1++1" < 1433577947 897303 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LitInt 8 < 1433577988 743721 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's (++1 + ++1) + (++1 + ++1) < 1433577992 687604 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a more C like notation < 1433578035 342388 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+,+,+1++1++,+1++1 is ++(++(++1 + ++ 1) + ++(++1 + ++ 1)) < 1433578072 107298 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> run $ runParserWithString parseExpression "+,+,+1++1++,+1++1" < 1433578073 624102 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LitInt 11 < 1433578098 29486 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figuring out what the , does is left as an exercise for the reader :p < 1433578119 856116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ++1 part keeps wierding me out, because ++x is quite different from (x+1) in C. < 1433578134 331638 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :) < 1433578150 814183 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prefix + is just increment < 1433578155 615725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infix + regular addition < 1433578333 851045 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> run $ runParserWithString parseExpression "+.+,+,+1++1++,+1++1-" < 1433578334 974253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LitInt (-10) < 1433578375 479400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :These would be good exercises for IT students to figure out :D < 1433578422 998020 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Instead of brackets it uses , and . < 1433578428 957597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :, denotes infix and . denotes postfix < 1433578448 857865 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it is prefix < 1433578499 134081 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,+1+1 is inc(1)+1 < 1433578521 856020 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.,+1+1 is neg(inc(1)+1) < 1433578527 298260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.,+1+1- < 1433578538 227253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :- postfix always forms a negative number < 1433578595 829013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In HTML there is a command to make plain text directly but then you can't type inside of it. There is also which cannot be terminated at all. < 1433578623 992741 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does HTML5 still have that? < 1433578625 663941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it can include any text including </plaintext> or whatever else you want it to include < 1433578804 994236 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmp is supposedly an "obsolete feature" according to mozilla.org. god damn it, I hate these people < 1433578864 614257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they put in a new tag and take out the old tag, and soon old web pages on the internet archive won't render < 1433578894 936514 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does .,5+,3*3- evaluate to ;)? < 1433579118 654231 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433579309 815348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the same as ,,5+,3*3*_1 < 1433579314 962058 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :using J notation for negative numbers < 1433579381 687981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :<plaintext> seems even worse. "This element has been deprecated since HTML 2 and was never implemented by all browsers; even those that did implement it didn't do so consistently. In addition, it is obsoleted in HTML 5; browsers that still accept it may simply treat it as a <pre> element, which still interprets HTML within, even though that's not what you probably want." < 1433579403 453484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people generally just escape. < 1433579418 798061 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having to escape in pre always bothered me < 1433579443 154121 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :<verbatim end="EOF">hi there <b>hi</b>EOF < 1433579446 746114 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nice :D < 1433579465 868129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to also have been a <listing>, which "is deprecated since HTML 3.2 and was neither implemented by all browsers, nor in a consistent way." < 1433579494 946743 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although browsers seem smart enough to render things like <pre>for(int j = 0; j < x; j++)</pre> still correctly < 1433579517 525525 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where corretly means like the user would have expected not knowing he'd better escape the < < 1433579603 202413 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433580310 955939 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Burlesque won't have a chance against this new language :D < 1433580705 491568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gooood morning < 1433580707 591252 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433580773 278567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good morning Europe!", to ape the Eurovision greetings. < 1433580775 738186 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 10r@#S is now just U,5:10 < 1433580799 703913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said "Good morning, Australia!" so often. < 1433580853 135521 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433580858 824865 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433581217 213353 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning! < 1433582619 203196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> run $ runParserWithString parseExpression ",:4M{:p}" < 1433582620 199648 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[1] [1 2] [1 2 3] [1 2 3 4]] < 1433582689 620043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :infix map looks kinda strange though < 1433583120 322854 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the closing } is purely optional of course :D < 1433583131 359160 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433583155 47595 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4ro)ro)<- is now just ,:4M{~:p < 1433584741 75707 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433584741 301275 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433585814 583085 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433585867 144829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gulf14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43170 5* 03160.85.232.184 5* (+764) 10Gulf - a new kind of Burlesque < 1433586004 582660 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-109-193-070-249.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433588595 661700 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433588681 813206 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433589584 481276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433590960 983661 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433590978 312986 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (-) [1..4] < 1433590980 352365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -8 < 1433590999 353016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1433591148 628838 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,:4R{,p*p < 1433591164 854467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is a special variable that refers to the top of the stack (and pops when read) < 1433591389 711314 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-109-193-070-249.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1433591644 612525 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433592419 326332 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433593173 237641 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433593929 184027 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ fuck the Java ecosystem . < 1433593972 205469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want it to breed? < 1433593992 439469 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433594083 310449 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433594085 583674 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wan't it to work < 1433594088 713509 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*want < 1433594094 635633 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and give reasonable errors AT FUCKING COMPILE TIME < 1433594117 372669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait 18 years...oh wait, java is actually old enough... < 1433594343 178368 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this JPA shit is really getting on my nerves < 1433594650 81523 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:844:f201:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433594697 646097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.slf4j.spi.LocationAwareLogger.log < 1433594700 712363 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- shit like that < 1433594723 22640 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are runtime incompatabilities you have no chance detecting until it's too late < 1433594821 95574 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the JPA stuff works < 1433594823 996460 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except making queries < 1433594831 291929 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which results in another stupid runtime error < 1433594835 259560 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :NoSuchFieldError < 1433594840 342644 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you kidding me, java folks? < 1433595493 633916 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the wonderful world of reflection and mirages... < 1433595615 138728 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( no springs attached ) < 1433595740 599588 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Class has two properties of the same name "members < 1433595745 656539 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the fuck is that even possible? < 1433595904 527330 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433595956 917950 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's a good one, I have no clue. < 1433595958 907183 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when java was young and innocent < 1433595971 212178 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before it grew hot spots < 1433595986 443102 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you mean when it was unusable and ridiculously slow? < 1433595999 255457 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm becoming a hater of reflection/runtime magic < 1433596006 403777 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though runtime magic solves a lot of problems < 1433596012 468454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than unusable and ridiculously memory hungry) < 1433596012 767362 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it introduces a hell lot of other problems as well < 1433596021 920592 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433596034 908510 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1433596035 536963 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... it turns out that when I run it from eclipse eclipse injects some old version of something < 1433596043 250066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which causes runtime incompatibilities < 1433596049 639801 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: can you still laugh about the term "XML programming"? < 1433596064 185944 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's XML programming? < 1433596074 816491 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that after some forays into spring configuration files, I no longer could. < 1433596093 946319 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the thing in Java that all configuration is made with huuuuge xml files < 1433596127 899537 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that have to be in some specific directories < 1433596131 519228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in the classpath < 1433596133 369120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or somewhere else < 1433596147 302409 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"XML programming" is a variation on "HTML programming", which is a derogatory term, a half joke. < 1433596154 242626 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I see. < 1433596158 594373 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1433596165 203046 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can program in XLST or something though? < 1433596188 815350 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes that's xslt < 1433596207 281754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. :) < 1433596214 54361 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used that. < 1433596221 768342 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heavily used JAXB though. < 1433596224 747711 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and JAX-RS < 1433596227 139155 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree it's an actual programming language, but it really needs a better syntax. < 1433596254 381599 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not kidding. XML syntax is *not* human readable, never mind maintainable. < 1433596254 682389 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this whole servlet containers, servlets and whatever thing is also a huge mess < 1433596272 628009 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are different servlets, different servlet containers, different implementations of jax-rs and < 1433596344 288781 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest part of being a java programmer is navigating through this ugly mess of things :) < 1433596377 323394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, back when I was dabbling with some enterprisey java behemoth, the two things I hated most were a) dependency injection via XML (e.g. spring) and b) browsing source code files and ending up with an interface ... whuch then turns out to have exactly one implementation. < 1433596437 918008 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using guice for that < 1433596441 238003 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to inject things < 1433596446 811208 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "whuch" < 1433596464 389456 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has it's downside though < 1433596464 750079 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 5 years ago, I have not touched Java since < 1433596473 975973 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for simple stuff I'd prefer factories but that's just my opinion < 1433596506 930251 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good thing is that every java newcomer will now what a factory is < 1433596530 757205 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but reading up on all the crazy shit you can do with guice and then use it in a reasonable way is another story < 1433596582 254160 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily simple things with guice are still simple to do :) < 1433596724 970498 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is living in a dream world where Java doesn't exist ;) < 1433596738 336707 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm living in a dream world where ecosystems of languages merge < 1433596768 726730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1433596771 890955 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and languages are just syntactic sugar < 1433596812 899950 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd just need some way of automatically deriving bindings of something < 1433596837 801082 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, write an NSF grant proposal about it... < 1433596875 572882 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSF? < 1433596957 247417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :National Science Foundation (which is a US thing, other countries have similar institutions, but I picked the NSF as the one that is most likely to be known) < 1433596958 634682 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should've just created a garbage collected version of C < 1433596971 378609 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with separate compilations < 1433596974 527072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no point < 1433596977 405782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everybody could just stick to using that :) < 1433597000 928254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who write C don't believe in GC to such an extent that they will actively fight against having one. < 1433597030 519035 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1433597036 368865 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad they don't believe in memory safety < 1433597049 905842 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, see Rust. < 1433597057 663375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is pretty good, yeh < 1433597069 456330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no GC. I wonder why... ;) < 1433597078 728048 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... it guarantees memory safety < 1433597085 515294 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good enough. < 1433597189 686622 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now Rust just needs servlets, servlet containers, servlet container containers, container servlets, enterprise servlets, enterprise beans, plain old enterprise beans < 1433597290 860242 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can already use boehmgc to get a garbage collected version of C < 1433597334 933593 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's usually silly, though, since there are much better languages with garbage collection < 1433597392 918791 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Rust. < 1433597490 263985 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the last time they tried to standardize language bindings, they ended up with CORBA. < 1433597720 110261 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :CORBA uses networking? < 1433597738 480718 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be more interested in some form of ABI < 1433598267 254903 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433598474 934514 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's sensitivity and specifity again? < 1433598517 358546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true positive and true negative? < 1433598565 869360 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. probability of testing positive if you're actually positive < 1433598787 77853 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433598860 169026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433599173 153819 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matørjan! < 1433599199 178085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god ettermiddoily! < 1433599220 415670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes disturbingly a piece has fallen off his laptop < 1433599260 736988 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( quick, catch it, before it gets away! ) < 1433599301 988848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1433599340 296149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some small plasticy cylinder/disk < 1433599368 249923 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mystery part < 1433599410 48903 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a magic blue smoke conduit hth < 1433599419 316917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found a place it probably fits < 1433599432 988883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was black hth < 1433599449 275572 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the place the magic blue smoke conduit fits in? tdsh. < 1433599472 814317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the materical resembles the protective "feet" of the laptop, but seems to fit in a much smaller hole. < 1433599475 797321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-c < 1433599485 401807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rubbery) < 1433599667 501243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the english term _is_ rubber feet huh < 1433599715 135352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bumper < 1433599770 198856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1433599770 550723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 061350Z 05007KT 360V090 9999 VCTS FEW055CB SCT070TCU 29/17 Q1021 NOSIG < 1433599788 802899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...cooling off ever so slowly... < 1433599799 327947 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LSZH < 1433599799 640855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 061350Z 30004KT 230V350 9999 FEW060CB 30/15 Q1022 NOSIG < 1433599820 638966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite hot alright. < 1433599834 244686 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm sitting in beach shorts and a muscle shirt at work < 1433599858 990274 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to connect "work" and "Saturday", but fails. < 1433599866 48293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1433599866 364554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 061350Z 04003KT 020V080 9999 -SHRA FEW020 SCT030 BKN050 15/11 Q1004 RMK WIND 670FT 08003KT < 1433599882 320265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently norway is "north of the jet stream" tdnh < 1433599894 122440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds pleasant :P < 1433599912 42911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm working every day < 1433599914 618684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every day < 1433599942 284849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: except it means, paradoxically, that global warming sometimes makes our country _colder_. < 1433599950 909450 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :On average I work on 6.2 days a week < 1433599962 394459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1433599982 316955 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it can go up to 7 days a week when I feel like doing that < 1433600067 569494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so averages are paradoxical now? < 1433600222 687526 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1433600222 957301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 061400Z 33011G18KT 320V020 30SM FEW040 FEW240 13/02 A3015 RMK CU1CI1 CU TR SLP210 < 1433600260 240424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my vague impression is that global warming in the arctic is stronger, which causes the arctic climate region (bounded by the jet stream) to _expand_ < 1433600323 605487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wikipedes before spreading more hearsay < 1433600639 849445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok wikipedia disagrees with the vague impression < 1433600704 959446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it may become "more variable in its course" < 1433600788 232317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_stream#Unpowered_aerial_attack < 1433600844 284543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oishi's work largely went unnoticed outside Japan because it was published in Esperanto." < 1433600946 524826 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should just do what Futurama did. < 1433600957 732306 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine some large ice blocks from Mars and dump it into our seas < 1433600980 167253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just hope there are no dangerous viruses or bacterias in that ice block from Mars. < 1433600986 121116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that'll do wonders for the sea level, too < 1433600992 122612 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. why has no Rover yet landed on Mars's ice? < 1433601027 833283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's tricky to land in polar regions < 1433601029 10002 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares about sea level. < 1433601046 74162 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you care about sea levels? < 1433601046 275560 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: " cooks need not be fnord will give' fnord this will sound too fnord will sound fnord': like very old friends, in fnord fnord: they fnord not for reward nor thanks: their cheeks are hot with honest shame for you, to give the prizes?" quite distinctly. < 1433601052 796556 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433601052 972335 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice* c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433601056 25945 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1433601056 201765 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1433601059 971019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you care about sea levels? < 1433601060 146714 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: queues would make more sense to work with cygwin. < 1433601070 817210 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :/o\ < 1433601071 276172 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1433601071 451822 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /| < 1433601113 342196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll just build huge walls around sea shores < 1433601120 457877 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like we do around borders of countries < 1433601150 495945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strahlstrom sound so much more ominous. < 1433601154 753052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sounds < 1433601187 767324 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-214.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433601193 317020 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you obey the queen? < 1433601193 492717 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: s/ dictionary/ fnord :)) then it is < 1433601210 221985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's a fnord to the fungot. < 1433601210 397626 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't even understand what's there to understand the implications though, i don't want it to < 1433601211 543154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should do s/dictionary/fnord on Wikipedia . < 1433601226 46430 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-006.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433601242 318579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: the dutch have some experience with that. < 1433601281 71793 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fnord is a collection of words. A broad distinction is made between general and specialized fnords. The oldest known fnords were Akkadian Empire cuneiform tablets. < 1433601287 860378 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What did the dutch do? < 1433601303 357529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they got a bunch of dikes < 1433601367 399440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reclaimed some land from the sea < 1433601376 59998 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1433601390 460824 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was related to globally replacing words in the dutch wikipedia < 1433601402 796671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would know nothing about that < 1433601452 203347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dutch is one of my "wtf would anyone want to sound like that" languages, next to arabic. < 1433601569 280880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion tonal languages sound much weirder < 1433601582 704343 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(secretly hoping that arabic isn't a tonal language) < 1433601600 577824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've heard of < 1433601773 712925 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just listened to http://omniglot.com/soundfiles/udhr/udhr_nl.mp3 . there are too many /χ/ to my taste. < 1433601829 273421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :χ is cool < 1433601848 17764 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it's a very common sound in swiss german. < 1433601905 648686 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're right. They overuse that more than we do < 1433601922 551817 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but arabic doesn't sound too bad < 1433601969 157794 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1433601991 174659 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd totally learn it if it were free to do so < 1433601994 334826 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it depends on the Arabic fork and version... Algerian Arabic is fun, because they tend to put in random French words in it. < 1433602023 185935 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otoh, it's not fun because of Berber phonotactics.) < 1433602084 738743 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by free I mean a free coach with at least 2.5h per week) < 1433602109 732048 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 0.5h of those have to be specific voice/pronunciation coaching < 1433602129 461260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate that people don't put enough emphasis on correctly pronouncing foreign languages < 1433602155 80273 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My english pronunciation is fucking terrible < 1433602160 617625 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still better than Ueli Maurer's. < 1433602206 234928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PaPHFC6y0 < 1433602261 495725 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1433602264 617328 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with that? < 1433602292 632386 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about as good as most non-native-english-speaking politicians < 1433602316 161500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: he's infamous in norway for it < 1433602321 343355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if a dutch speaks english it sounds worse to dutch people than to german people :) < 1433602331 232724 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a norwegian :) < 1433602334 977479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound too bad to me < 1433602376 34790 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly because norwegians probably recognize common miss-pronunciations better in Jagland than I would < 1433602385 251656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: FireFly disagrees and he's not norwegian hth < 1433602392 211495 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1433602397 36946 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sound equally bad I think < 1433602410 717961 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I really try hard to fake some non existing british accent < 1433602421 97664 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it sounds OK at least to me but It'd probably piss of the quenn. < 1433602533 442838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION admits to sometimes trying to read english aloud like david attenborough < 1433602568 802431 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433602572 850479 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my english pronounciation is pretty bad, too < 1433602631 741522 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi all < 1433602647 288390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Lyka < 1433602694 482668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tried to google thor heyerdahl but only found a parody of him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxpeCR4OX34 < 1433602701 11779 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :adaptor to connect the arduino touch-screen to the arduino mega came today < 1433602723 106012 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i have to figure out how to program this thing < 1433602823 626559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait more in the sidebar < 1433602868 970097 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if i can create 4FK Cuddlefish for it without modifying the core languge < 1433602996 645541 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-143.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433602997 637438 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4FK's current extension system allows for 6 base-32 chars and 4 unsigned chars (1-byte) each loaded in the form of 2 hex chars < 1433603001 59496 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-006.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433603084 667390 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :the core commands are made up of 4 printable-ascii chars (minus space and lowercase) < 1433603223 86796 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the six b32s in the extention command form can also be of any of the 78 valid chars, not just the 32 in base32 < 1433603258 272694 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that numerical input has to be in hex or b32 < 1433603484 635235 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-143.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433603492 274834 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-006.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433605575 597975 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433605820 980471 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433606042 831950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433606059 53001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433606064 724296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real < 1433606065 526230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433606072 240364 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433606097 685891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/{"the reals",real} < 1433606100 372605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433606103 290142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433606103 959037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433606112 384690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real < 1433606113 318127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433606120 401147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1433606122 46951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1433606290 859552 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is real < 1433606346 452443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\..*/./' wisdom/real < 1433606348 364221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433606532 340144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real < 1433606533 7430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1433606554 526764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I was born in 1994. They must be my earliest invention. < 1433606571 290083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that occurr?ed to me as well. < 1433606594 595502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are your inventions wellordered? < 1433606601 388910 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1433606611 546237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1433606614 481963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, and this sentence. < 1433606643 780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/, and/, the reals, and/' wisdom/tanebvention < 1433606645 94398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433606647 223497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1433606648 7231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1433606675 200023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433606675 829160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433606677 505452 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you fpr the go part < 1433606686 303563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please fix twh < 1433606698 39712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i feel ambivalent < 1433606698 294774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1433606699 22095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1433606739 227292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it would mean that `? would need to check up to 4 files < 1433606739 583958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/was/was not/' wisdom/this\ sentence < 1433606742 220432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433606784 223930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how about redirect wisdom entries < 1433606795 284313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :symlinks are too fragile < 1433606809 213956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't entirely trust HackEgo redirects < 1433606840 439705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do those already exist? < 1433606846 841415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433606847 733799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​|^n3e>ooѶs;Ҥfcokaj ƻB#8.оWqnɪ8[pZqƿtNH>a<s;Yv QvDKWJuRYknwXpGN<uCF+Gr=J)Gȯ'秽f hijb-Zmʊ"x3$@ke;v?9o8) < 1433606854 602874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that's special-cased < 1433606870 138424 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: what?! < 1433606870 462761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a special sort of wisdom entry that says "see this other wisdom entry" < 1433606882 734627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1433606887 716921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? special < 1433606888 416835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :special? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433606901 940436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect there already are some wisdom/ redirects < 1433606903 80832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recursion < 1433606903 667076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433606938 855018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type l < 1433606939 678433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/perpetuum mobile \ wisdom/the torus \ wisdom/koen_ \ wisdom/issue \ wisdom/canary < 1433606971 324266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn recursion See:clichés. < 1433606973 958244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433606974 240254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn recursion/You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW < 1433606976 161073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «recursion» < 1433606977 354701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «recursion see:clichés.» < 1433606993 347544 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how did my command beat yours? < 1433606998 266445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no / < 1433607007 970986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recursion < 1433607008 650900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW < 1433607013 805728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's not what you were asking < 1433607030 929652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that might be the answer though < 1433607045 926634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps forgetting that hackego is parallel and asynchronous < 1433607095 925573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/'the torus' < 1433607096 623635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/the torus < 1433607099 684269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/recursion see:clichés. < 1433607101 178033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607103 442574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/'the torus' < 1433607106 14251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/the torus -> torus < 1433607115 388800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :precedent < 1433607123 148603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're right < 1433607136 410078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s wisdom/{real,"the reals"} < 1433607138 8770 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607144 16233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1433607144 315241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? strange loop < 1433607145 362701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange loop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607146 774077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work < 1433607149 50059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607149 777853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607155 262006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real < 1433607156 33774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1433607164 745316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln takes a relative path hth < 1433607168 465223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1433607175 165793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `le/rn strange loop/See also: GEB. ) < 1433607181 763000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s real wisdom/{"the reals"} < 1433607183 389089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607186 211209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607186 903092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607203 218785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still wrong < 1433607207 10649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real < 1433607207 229449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1433607207 771611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1433607217 451760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s wisdom/{"the reals"} real < 1433607219 17384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607223 336615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607223 988725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607224 386513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/{the reals} < 1433607225 44739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/{the reals} < 1433607232 316594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433607241 290045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} only works with commas < 1433607242 843231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} only works for two or more entries < 1433607244 529079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s wisdom/"the reals" real < 1433607245 193235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link `real': File exists < 1433607252 757039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s real wisdom/"the reals" < 1433607253 370893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/the reals': Not a directory < 1433607262 501942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid inconsitencise < 1433607263 712975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because someone tried to mix APIs and UIs and ended up with something that wasn't good at either < 1433607294 171882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/"{the reals}" < 1433607295 845782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607302 780704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607303 371833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607306 552414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! it's raining. < 1433607312 868416 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1433607313 101544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 061550Z 28006KT 220V340 9999 -TSRA SCT060CB SCT070TCU 25/17 Q1021 TEMPO TSRA < 1433607317 750559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1433607318 64393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 061553Z VRB03KT 10SM OVC011 16/12 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP128 T01560122 < 1433607323 702107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s wisdom/"the reals" real < 1433607324 321666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link `real': File exists < 1433607334 319958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1433607338 812680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost there hth < 1433607348 549582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s real wisdom/"the reals" < 1433607349 163863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/the reals': Not a directory < 1433607359 162295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is _happening_ < 1433607364 502673 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s real wisdom/the\ reals < 1433607365 92313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/the reals': Not a directory < 1433607369 526285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/"the reals" < 1433607370 565756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 11 Jun 6 16:13 wisdom/the reals -> wisdom/real < 1433607372 732875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. < 1433607382 222157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/"the reals" < 1433607385 379841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607387 310000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s real wisdom/"the reals" < 1433607387 569292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607389 378178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433607390 627771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607393 168990 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607393 515344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433607393 922091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1433607394 237422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1433607399 377056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1433607401 913613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :......... < 1433607419 228707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not a directory" indeed. < 1433607476 505115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type l | while read f; do echo -n "$(basename "$f")/"; readlink "$f"; done < 1433607477 446604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals/real \ perpetuum mobile/perpetual motion machine \ the torus/torus \ koen_/koen \ issue/.doorstop \ canary/../canary < 1433607494 989953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1433607495 715222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1433607517 29565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Elronnd 5* 10New user account < 1433607526 150599 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1433607526 833526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ share \ src \ test \ test.c \ twoli < 1433607552 935462 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo cough > canary < 1433607554 4254 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433607555 302246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607564 324217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l real < 1433607565 30631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Jun 6 16:15 real -> wisdom/{the reals} < 1433607599 668725 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n 3 random_elliott < 1433607600 373806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k \ x \ e < 1433607658 528197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test.c < 1433607659 150991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main () { printf("hm"); } < 1433607672 483985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm test* < 1433607674 35696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607686 273498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1433607686 831742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N=$(find wisdom -type f | wc -l); F="$(find wisdom -type f | head -n $((RANDOM % N)) | tail -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F" < 1433607689 999326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculous < 1433607708 412868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/c < 1433607709 406904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>......@.....@.......( ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@........................................@......@............................................@.......@................... ..................`.....`.....@......H........ .................`.....`............................ < 1433607715 881125 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/c < 1433607716 476173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include <stdio.h> \ char*a="#include <stdio.h>\nchar*a=\"@\";\nvoid main(){char*b=a;for(;(*a)!=0;a++){switch(*a){case '@':if(!(*b))putchar('@');for(;(*b)!=0;b++){switch(*b){case '\"':case '\\\\':putchar('\\\\');putchar(*b);break;case '\\n':putchar('\\\\');putchar('n');break;default:putchar(*b);}}break;default:putchar(*a);}}}"; \ void main(){cha < 1433607737 692291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf | head -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F"' > bin/wisdom < 1433607739 551678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607743 230486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a second there, i was about to complain they'd saved the binary instead of the code < 1433607749 785098 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym shuf -n 1 < 1433607763 113774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to fix it hth < 1433607801 994563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually I've used sort -R < 1433607828 924290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose HackEEgo has enough memory to hold the wisdom/ filelist all at once. < 1433607858 408804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433607859 349404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊥/⊥ is a bottom tack, useful for annoying teachers. < 1433607915 796461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/shuf | head -n1/shuf -n1/' bin/wisdom < 1433607917 440872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433607942 900213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it great how sometimes you escape the | and sometimes you don't? < 1433607947 829726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1433607948 374573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F" < 1433607955 489786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be too simple if there was one convention for regular expressions in the world. < 1433607965 345484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAA < 1433607968 349398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433607969 17916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsmreclist/* oerjan swats quintopia -----### \ <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1433607970 126267 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying ... adverb or infinitive? < 1433607997 839248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: definitely not infinitive hth < 1433608020 688642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor adverb? < 1433608021 79371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym participle < 1433608031 272935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err gerund < 1433608101 979477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah, it could be an adverb. preaching teachers, annoying teachers. < 1433608113 323486 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608115 22241 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fi/Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1433608136 340153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: How is that an adverb? < 1433608137 36228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: grammer is hard (i did that on purpose) < 1433608168 792754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1433608173 777631 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1433608182 609996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'm wrong. < 1433608212 988642 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1433608218 298218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying is usually used as adjective or verb < 1433608222 513461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608223 359593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :york/York used to be known as Amsterdam. < 1433608224 350797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes find some reference. < 1433608230 649603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608231 596964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :west midlands/Nobody knows anything about the West Midlands, and it has claimed the lives of at least two former regulars in this channel who tried to investigate so far. < 1433608239 431483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608240 192779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :york/York used to be known as Amsterdam. < 1433608247 784947 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs food badly < 1433608248 148574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure this shuf thing is reliable < 1433608252 885119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608254 258213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1433608258 321345 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as reliable as fungot. < 1433608258 684213 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and on the net and " oletko ismo" of all the repos on the front of the alist? ( i know because i've never gotten it to work < 1433608258 904486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need < 1433608277 98370 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :food. I need to go grocery shopping and stuff. < 1433608285 268781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433608285 444398 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433608290 79435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :en ole ismo < 1433608295 31515 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: go oletko ismo yourself, you vile spawn. < 1433608295 207280 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that " fnord" " neck" " eye" " fnord/ new/ scheme < 1433608301 521953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whoa whoa whoa < 1433608306 806793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oletko" is finnish for "are you" < 1433608315 54485 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. uhm. eeeeeh... < 1433608319 55170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shop for veggies of the awesome viet chef sort? < 1433608328 164733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :viet chef? < 1433608366 333346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608367 553010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1433608371 189294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608371 938076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nepeta leijon/Nepeta Leijon is the maintainer of the official Alternian shipping wall. < 1433608374 581555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608375 190222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cook the food eat the food < 1433608375 599914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki/The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1433608413 67159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a plan. buy the food, cook, ?????, profit. < 1433608416 690924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "grammer" is spelling, not grammar hth < 1433608429 573410 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GYROSCOPIC CHICKEN < 1433608444 468232 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was a metajoke < 1433608522 534322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608523 427381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :colour/14C12101103o1106lour is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l03061 < 1433608528 297119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608529 35617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :justice/Justice is just behavior or treatment. < 1433608532 995213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433608533 798787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burma/ask Bike < 1433608539 264954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I meant[4~ participle and gerund. < 1433608579 140101 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it be harder to mess grammar up. though much harder not, granting. < 1433608590 928833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :participle < 1433608624 486542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to confuse "burma" and "bursa" < 1433608638 473420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter as in a stock exchange or something < 1433608701 933359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now I need to find a way to mess up grammar without sounding like Yoda.) < 1433608718 917654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i confuse mercy with mrsa < 1433608772 779866 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, mess up grammar is ease < 1433608777 390807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammarer are verys easied to's the messily up < 1433608807 663018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's hard to make it look like and accidently. < 1433608833 184894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that mays be true < 1433608834 724361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmpf. s/and/an/ is what I meant to type. < 1433608841 734989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messing up grammar is impossible. < 1433608987 532547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: would grammar excessively initial-head be opposite the of yoda? < 1433608989 276126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :messing up grammar is harder than yoda < 1433609015 868024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433609023 329220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*initial-head excessively < 1433609031 230130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is grammar hard < 1433609106 415563 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the co-yoda lemma < 1433609302 871043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also yoda than further head-finally even go could < 1433609582 743869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: -> < 1433609671 325685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433609672 303776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :log/I think you might mean !logs < 1433609674 196662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433609675 4573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom___hoover/Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. < 1433609722 53582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to ghost the account you are using? < 1433609729 406097 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, no it isn't < 1433609736 514278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433609737 301920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u/The U are a very mad people. < 1433609974 457060 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433611251 203112 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433611395 196153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433611429 491531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1433611429 667300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1433611759 864882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433611760 582295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luxembourg/Luxembourg is adequate. < 1433611798 221945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:2.98.83.24910]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): replacing pages with material that's offtopic, probably also copyvio < 1433612018 126120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an IP cleaned up the spam; thanks IP < 1433612040 128919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds" < 1433612048 474571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting definition of "24 years", MediaWiki < 1433612167 742483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always a little awkward as an admin when one person/IP you don't recognise starts vandalising and another cleans it up < 1433612173 986638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so easy to block the wrong one by mistake < 1433612181 736488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION double-checks < 1433612394 552904 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\SO" < 1433612437 673714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, do you mean \SOH? (just guessing, I don't know) < 1433612445 865506 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1433612449 922061 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\SO" < 1433612452 171932 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\SO" < 1433612466 84986 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "x\SOy" < 1433612467 942161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : xy < 1433612480 717420 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it filters it. < 1433612495 749202 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\SO" ++ "H" < 1433612498 227494 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\SO\&H" < 1433612528 340718 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ↑ This needs a special-case when writing show. < 1433612540 177139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, beautiful < 1433612549 220429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is \& a specific no-op escape sequence? < 1433612559 541044 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is indeed an emptystring escape sequence. < 1433612563 802589 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also need it for < 1433612580 472168 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\256" ++ "0" < 1433612582 703551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\256\&0" < 1433612587 677082 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "\&\&\&" < 1433612589 486384 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1433612592 205060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huuuh < 1433612602 879114 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To show where the escape sequence ends. < 1433612650 827410 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC \SO is the only controlchar escape that is a prefix of another (\SOH). < 1433612653 866348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to deal with this sort of thing, Perl eventually entered a convention where escape sequences were of the form backslash, letter, then an almost arbitrary string surrounded by braces < 1433612689 695995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although reading about bugfixes in B::Deparse is always hilarious < 1433612708 774189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B::Deparse's purpose is to take what's basically an AST for a Perl program, and convert it back into Perl syntax < 1433612716 455768 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433612719 647889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hugely difficult to make it roundtrip because Perl syntax has so many ambiguous cases < 1433612827 153949 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently working on fixing a bug in parsers that adds yet another way to crash idris-bot. < 1433612956 35785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my research compiler can be crashed with a simple mockingbird :-( < 1433612968 897238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> (x x) < 1433612970 843437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: r1 ~ r1 -> r < 1433612971 55961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Relevant bindings include x :: r1 -> r (bound at <interactive>:1:2) < 1433612971 56037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘x’, namely ‘x’ < 1433612981 549246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I express that request in Idris? I'm interested to see what idris-bot makes of it < 1433613021 108866 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \x => (x x) < 1433613021 284556 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:13-14:Unifying argTy and 13argTy -> 13retTy would lead to infinite value < 1433613072 811412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that error message < 1433613087 478581 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out the idris compiler does indeed do occurs checks. It also looks like they are the same for types and values. < 1433613088 275897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem I'm dealing with is that I'm working with a type system where a mockingbird actually has a type < 1433613091 393250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a double mockingbird doesn't < 1433613114 379249 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1433613160 9551 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \x : (a : Type) -> a -> Nat => x _ x < 1433613160 224118 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13x => 13x ((13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 12Nat) 13x : ((13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 12Nat) -> 12Nat < 1433613180 673277 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \x : {a : Type} -> a -> Nat => x x < 1433613180 849034 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):Incomplete term \13x => 13x (([__]) -> 12Nat) (13x ([__])) < 1433613205 799205 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, it won’t work implicitly. < 1433613211 794806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the type is "(('a -> 'b) + 'a) -> 'b", in whatever syntax you feel like; the language doesn't have a syntax for polymorphic types yet but my brain defaults to OCaml) < 1433613267 351336 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (\x : (a : Type) -> a -> Nat => x _ x) (\_ _ => 0) < 1433613267 527123 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:44: error: expected: ",", < 1433613267 527174 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":", "=>", "impossible" < 1433613267 527196 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x : (a : Type) -> a -> Nat => x _ x) (\_ _ => 0)<EOF> < 1433613267 527216 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433613277 893912 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (\x : (a : Type) -> a -> Nat => x _ x) (\_,_ => 0) < 1433613278 108205 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1433613351 710548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"impossible" is a keyword? < 1433613355 180656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was a function somehow < 1433613357 997978 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t \x -> x (x :: forall a. a -> t) < 1433613360 520365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1433613367 960171 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type \x -> x (x :: forall a. a -> t) < 1433613368 569266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I was probably thinking of "absurd" < 1433613369 835047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable ‘t’ < 1433613380 364987 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type forall t. \x -> x (x :: forall a. a -> t) < 1433613382 394482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘forall’ < 1433613382 570227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘forAll’ (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted) < 1433613382 570345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable ‘t’ < 1433613386 38922 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp. < 1433613421 517772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting attempt < 1433613424 273173 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can’t do an /\ in any version of surface syntax, can I? < 1433613435 204369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think you can express a mockingbird in System F either < 1433613445 205410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(System F = rank N types) < 1433613498 179019 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t < 1433613499 384301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1433613501 928210 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t) < 1433613503 187556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forall a. a -> t) -> t < 1433613508 962747 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabucgchkbjuwbwd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433613509 138525 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kboskxlswnopyirn QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433613510 367578 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1433613565 196501 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s about what I did there in Idris, but the types are implicit. < 1433613579 797321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to get my head around that type < 1433613580 855682 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t) (\_ _ -> 0) < 1433613584 793185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Typeable t0) < 1433613584 968948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M8673672655092209319045’ < 1433613584 969009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: < 1433613598 522213 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t) (\_ _ -> 0 :: Integer) < 1433613600 836230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Typeable t0) < 1433613601 11977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M56881207109249090619065’ < 1433613601 12052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: < 1433613608 655681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're basically requiring that the function to be mockingbird'ed doesn't look at its argument, right? < 1433613616 938142 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. < 1433613631 712527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that fits in with my research pretty well < 1433613680 477749 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\(x :: forall a. a -> t) -> x x) (\_ -> 0) < 1433613682 635175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1433613705 152613 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohderp. < 1433613712 984721 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t) (\_ -> 0 :: Integer) < 1433613715 812105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1433613721 802357 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was only in the idris one that the function was two-arg. < 1433613737 656756 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh type arguments... yay < 1433613765 912864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let m = (((\x -> x x) :: forall t. (forall a. a -> t) -> t)) in m m < 1433613767 794466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type ‘a’ with ‘forall a1. a1 -> t’ < 1433613767 970067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘a’ is a rigid type variable bound by < 1433613767 970127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a type expected by the context: a -> t at <interactive>:1:65 < 1433613788 50651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that error message is surprisingly reasonable given how insane the original program is < 1433613817 216695 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPJ actually cares about error messages < 1433613837 263724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do I, but it's hard to produce good ones, because computers are very hard at working out why something is wrong < 1433613847 975391 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPJ is also smart *ducks* < 1433613850 37673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like ayacc's error messages < 1433613873 880187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and one of ghc's principal implementors) < 1433613894 948420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: warning: shift/reduce conflict on symbol DIVIDE at shift-reduce.y line 10 < 1433613896 528431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: info: conflict is reached after, e.g., expr MINUS expr . DIVIDE < 1433613898 71608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: info: to resolve the conflict: specify a precedence for DIVIDE < 1433613920 652955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, such witnesses are helpful. < 1433614026 766465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_some_ compilers are. some stupid ones like MSVC are quite bad at it. < 1433614093 796612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually accidentally found a case where gcc produces an insane error message too, and reported it < 1433614113 140228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though at least it didn't segfault or anything < 1433614142 952872 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let me see if I can’t restrict that from Type to a universe … < 1433614159 689218 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I … probably can’t define that in the repl? < 1433614181 756637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I can't reliably produce witnesses for reduce/reduce conflicts; I try but they might be incorrect < 1433614193 938685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: warning: reduce/reduce conflict on symbol ID at reduce-reduce.y line 8 < 1433614195 523023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: info: conflicting rule at reduce-reduce.y line 10 < 1433614197 112384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :../ayacc: info: conflict is reached after something like: program '(' type ')' . ID < 1433614198 632835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the "something like" < 1433614208 558050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think determining whether a grammar is ambiguous in general is undecidable, right? < 1433614211 852175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ayacc has to come to a best guess < 1433614233 292558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that example is a correct one, though, for the grammar I gave it) < 1433614246 882864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't have to determine if it's ambiguous, only if it's not LALR < 1433614270 442380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well, yes < 1433614284 349641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's not LALR for LALR spuriousness reasons, it's impossible to come up with a good example < 1433614290 694949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there isn't a single example that causes the problem < 1433614304 321633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1433614400 160408 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :let mutual data Uni : Type where NAT : Uni; PI : (t : Uni) -> (interp t -> Uni) -> Uni; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Nat; interp (PI t f) = (x : interp t) -> interp (f x) < 1433614400 376062 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:119: error: expected: ":" < 1433614400 376115 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :< -> Uni; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Nat; interp (PI t f) = (x : inter> < 1433614400 376152 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433614409 619724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the bug where gcc gave an insane error message: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58363 < 1433614431 346305 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :let mutual data Uni : Type where { NAT : Uni; PI : (t : Uni) -> (interp t -> Uni) -> Uni }; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Nat; interp (PI t f) = (x : interp t) -> interp (f x) < 1433614431 522000 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:92: error: not end of < 1433614431 522097 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : block, expected: ")", "in", < 1433614431 522133 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : declaration, end of input < 1433614431 522166 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<t : Uni) -> (interp t -> Uni) -> Uni }; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Na> < 1433614431 522199 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433614431 522230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I had problems with clang producing warnings in unused halves of a _Generic < 1433614455 409566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the unused parts of a _Generic have to be parsed and have to be valid C code, so I can understand why it ran the warning checker on them < 1433614458 785463 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Huh*. < 1433614461 507592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as they're provably dead code, I'd hope it wouldn't display the warnings < 1433614477 480853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, it probably depends on what kind of warnings < 1433614477 695961 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxgtqrlhitihtrkf JOIN :#esoteric < 1433614485 637255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: some warnings should be produced there too, some shouldn't < 1433614511 628350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: specifically the warnings that could cause errors even if parsed as dead code on other systems or settings < 1433614514 300163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: type mismatches, especially :-) < 1433614520 226648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given what _Generic's purpose is) < 1433614535 250272 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :let mutual { data Uni : Type where { NAT : Uni; PI : (t : Uni) -> (interp t -> Uni) -> Uni }; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Nat; interp (PI t f) = (x : interp t) -> interp (f x) } < 1433614535 426053 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:94: error: expected: declaration, < 1433614535 601771 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : end of block < 1433614535 601860 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :<t : Uni) -> (interp t -> Uni) -> Uni }; interp : Uni -> Type; interp NAT = Na> < 1433614535 601892 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433614542 851259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost impossible to use _Generic for anything but different types of float atm < 1433614545 109463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you reported it? < 1433614549 151119 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, no. Can’t do it here apparently. < 1433614552 127181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no < 1433614561 260899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it's a feature new enough that it isn't in gcc yet < 1433614566 228022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to wait a while to see how it evolves < 1433614575 702273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my intended use of it was insane < 1433614577 862073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly, that's why few people are testing it, so they need the feedback from early testers < 1433614586 554010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the real reason < 1433614589 967874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, #esoteric levels of insane) < 1433614595 386550 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :insane use is no problem, that's how compiler bugs get discovered < 1433614616 193761 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they show up in insane uses, and it's hard to tell without debugging them whether they are connected to a bug that could cause problems in sane code too < 1433614631 38784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly less obvious miscompiles for then < 1433614673 205504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this particular case I reported wasn't like that, it came from a simplified case of sane code modulo a typo < 1433614689 463195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have reported bugs in perl core from insane esoteric uses < 1433614713 778027 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“cannot convert ‘f.#‘var_decl’ not supported by dump_type#<type error>::~’ (type ‘void’) to type ‘int’” – Magnificent. < 1433614741 354350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then I even recalled one that I later figured out was not a bug, then it came up a few years later in another ticket and the regex engine people wasn't sure what the correct behaviour should be actually, so I don't know if it's a bug or not.) < 1433614780 303978 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yes. they fixed it to less insane, but still not very helpful < 1433614789 918382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: anyway I think clang's behaviour might have been justified by the standard < 1433614792 519954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just annoying as a user < 1433614939 516749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1433614976 992313 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: When that sort of thing happens in idris, which it has, you usually get a standard “inexhaustive case” exception instead of output. < 1433615091 894205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: here I did write in the ticket what the sane error message would be imo < 1433615100 37228 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I saw. < 1433615105 663025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: did you come across this by accident, btw? < 1433615111 986037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1433615119 904047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was obviously not a clean short case like this < 1433615126 211341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was easy to reduce < 1433615138 769194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates were involved < 1433615152 255521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I omitted the parenthesis by accident < 1433615253 411902 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433615300 815280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was deliberately trying to invoke an explicit destructor call for a scalar type in template context < 1433615495 165164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has scalar context? I thought that was a Perl thing < 1433615509 654964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not scalar context < 1433615567 122287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: scalar type, which means something like a type that's one of: pointer, bool, integer, floating point, nullptr_t, pointer to member, and maybe a few more; but definitely not class or union types < 1433615581 756038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1433615664 69441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically object types for which it's not even a question that they are trivial (trivially copyable), you can't override operators on them, and are usually uninitialized unless you specifically initialize them < 1433615677 249703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it includes enums too < 1433615701 545393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/types/is_scalar has an informal but precise definition, the standard has a formal definition < 1433615755 128599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something that isn't too useful in C, only in C++, because in C, all types are always trivial, and you can't override operators or define special member functions on any type < 1433616209 264067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… when I work with perl, I should test if https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=29720 bug is still present. it's an annoying bug < 1433616266 746871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bizarre bug < 1433616275 554556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not really < 1433616283 658712 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dspxsrhpqykotutw JOIN :#esoteric < 1433616287 417455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: perlio was very buggy back then, and is still somewhat buggy < 1433616288 895367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general < 1433616309 896684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there was this bug in aimake where if you try to set a :unix PerlIO layer using binmode < 1433616312 55498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it leaks filehandles < 1433616330 917339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=118957 < 1433616352 808680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly binmode ":unix" doesn't actually make any sense, semantically < 1433616547 795681 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and there's https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=34595 which is another very old perlio bug I reported < 1433616871 798724 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433616905 512488 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433616979 212633 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1433617265 683013 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433617608 604729 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1433618645 242177 :quietello!~abc@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433618832 100390 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433618857 296772 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433618960 495364 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :bane-of-confusio < 1433619191 144502 :bane-of-confusio!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1433619548 424340 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433619864 464899 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433620167 869275 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433620339 270586 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapa < 1433620631 829515 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1433620977 898509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :linked lists are BS. They are apparently much, much slower than simply using an array and moving all the elements to make room for an insertion. < 1433621015 889531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends hth < 1433621022 594396 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something to do with memory locality? < 1433621023 50471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway they support sharing! < 1433621090 588449 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1433621120 67526 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: arrays can totally fit neatly into cache lines < 1433621133 407690 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :chasing pointers that point to various location of RAM isn't very nice < 1433621145 472906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then the CPU is constantly doing cache loads and cache writebacks < 1433621184 930659 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always have a data structure that chains arrays to gether < 1433621188 596314 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*together < 1433621194 586872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means you don't have to realloc < 1433621211 773428 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. that's what I suspect was happening. I just got a massive speed boost by using a big array (1MB) of enemies instead of a linked list. < 1433621227 737287 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this despite that I sort it every frame < 1433621311 966839 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before that wasn't necessary, I put the enemy at the righ place according to its Z, but with the array, I just tack it to the end, and sort it) < 1433621360 929744 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should be horribly inefficient, but apparently not as inefficient as a linked lis < 1433621501 115092 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fuck it. vector<Enemy> < 1433621546 95620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, IS vector always a continuous array? < 1433621552 846094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorting a linked list sucks anyway < 1433621569 232637 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :std:vector? < 1433621572 647016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++? < 1433621573 706721 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1433621584 611976 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector should be a growing array < 1433621613 126219 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often write in a restricted < 1433621643 536014 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ dialect that only uses what I consider to be the non-broken parts of C++ < 1433621649 820841 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do believe that quicksort is generally faster than insertion sort < 1433621695 548673 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I only need to sort it when an enemy changes z (only bosses) or appears < 1433621728 191845 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the drawing order? < 1433621733 364490 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I sort it every frame anyway because then I don't have to detect when it is necessary < 1433621736 369108 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433621768 973052 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is quicksort's time complexity on an already sorted array? < 1433621783 263109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: depends on how you choose the pivot < 1433621792 185438 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(log n) < 1433621796 320343 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that depends on the pivot < 1433621799 689398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's O(n log n) if you take the middle element, O(n^2) if you take the first element < 1433621827 549753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a guaranteed O(n log n) version of quicksort which takes the median element as the pivot; you can calculate the median in O(n) < 1433621838 42681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody does it because the O(n) median calculation has a pretty slow constant factor < 1433621868 936956 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. I forgot an n there < 1433621893 855123 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: It's quicksorts worst case of O(n^2) why there are "better" algorithms available < 1433621957 860506 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it gets slower later, I'll make a flag for changed Z < 1433622051 293338 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the linked list, I had a "clever" function where you call it on the node that changed Z and it removes it and puts it in the right place < 1433622081 482247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: quicksort does have quite a good constant factor though < 1433622083 714180 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know which k items have changed places, you can re-sort the array in O(n log k) time < 1433622199 935258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know that the list is almost sorted already, you can sort it in O(nk) time, where k is the number of items added/moved/changed, even without knowing which items they are < 1433622211 984080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many sort algorithms nowadays have algorithms which naturally fall into that as a best case < 1433622219 773869 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: wow. log k? k is unlikely to be higher than 2 in this case < 1433622393 583194 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is a top-down shooter where you can also drop bombs on enemies below you) < 1433622438 326688 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :enemies rarely move vertically, many enemies are ground troops or naval vessels < 1433622486 560253 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Put those items into a heap, then pass the remaining items through the heap.) < 1433622491 11432 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullets, on the other hand, move vertically a lot, but I just draw them aboce everything else because I'm lazy < 1433622541 246791 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH. < 1433622548 564495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even many standard sorts in languages' libraries tend to be the kind that they're good for almost-sorted arrays. < 1433622594 798590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think TimSort falls into that bucket (no pun about bucketsort intended), and it's the default in at least Python and Java[*]. ([*] not entirely true) < 1433622612 785534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( the buggy one? ) < 1433622635 120478 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually if k is small, it can be done in O(n + k log n) just by binary search. < 1433622818 423906 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"binary search" ... I thought one some sort of heap for this purpose... < 1433622826 593029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/one some/one uses some/ < 1433622828 703483 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433622872 845589 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, it's the step that merges lists of lengths k and n-k. < 1433622922 895114 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah sorry. I shouldn't try to deduce the problem from the given complexity < 1433622963 933291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O(n + k log n) is also the complexity for finding the smallest k elements of an unsorted list) < 1433623037 5408 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess the Algorithm, an exciting new game show < 1433623054 332305 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the merging thing, you can also do O(n + k log k) by first sorting and then merging two sorted lists. < 1433623645 109807 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ais523> there's a guaranteed O(n log n) version of quicksort which takes the median element as the pivot; you can calculate the median in O(n) – IIRC there’s a thing where one uses the median of only the first, middle, and last elements. < 1433623656 853880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: that's still O(n^2) worst case < 1433623665 912119 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, here's a fun one: O(2^(11.98 \sqrt k) k + n^3) < 1433623691 669159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a terrible asymptotic performance :-) < 1433623697 264464 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, IIRC it’s just better for a few common cases than a fixed pivot. < 1433623697 440169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it doing? < 1433623730 550632 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, if the list is already sorted you can find the median quite quickly < 1433623798 280308 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's clear that it's for a planar version of a parameterized NP-complete problem, due to the sqrt(k) in the exponent, but the complexity doesn't tell you anything more) < 1433624110 3915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there is such a variant, but it's really not worth because it's complicated to implement, needs a lot of extra memory, and probably slower than other sorts < 1433624158 629793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one these days recommend a well-implemented merge sort for most purposes, but I admit there's no one sort algorithm that's always the best < 1433624536 506481 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433624998 17151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linked lists are sometimes useful such as if you want to store them as nodes in a graph (or cons cells), but you could convert into a proper list when reading them in. But even SQL is only order by the ORDER BY so you still need some column to sort by, and this make it difficult to insert one in between unless you use a linked list (and then use a WITH command to convert into a proper list). < 1433625106 749267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, unless of course you implement a full balanced tree as a layer over sql, possibly in triggers < 1433625146 78947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mind you, if you just want to traverse a single linked list, that's rather easy with a WITH RECURSIVE ... SELECT query, but the problem is, you can't easily nest those queries < 1433625169 680272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think WITH RECURSIVE is allowed only at top level, not in a subquery or view, but let me check this < 1433625590 705135 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, here's another good one: O(n α*(n)), where α*(n) is the iterated (!) inverse Ackermann function. < 1433625628 495331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I assume the Ackermann function is involved in the algo somehow? < 1433625732 750227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually, you invent a variation of the Ackermann function that fits the shape of the data structure. Although this is a different function, α grows so slowly that it doesn't matter which α you use, so you can just use the "standard" one. < 1433625746 29593 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still would like to know how Kruskal's algorithm ends up O(n α(n)) < 1433625763 933983 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses the union-find data structure as a component, which is O(n α(n)) < 1433625777 103393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, that doesn't help my thinking < 1433625791 536212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is union find O(α(n))? < 1433625863 932374 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean as a philosophical question -- why is the optimal algorithm O(α(n))? I don't know. < 1433625907 633067 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a standard function like many but with a limit as to how many? < 1433625926 422388 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, no, I don't know the proof < 1433625949 44417 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've looked at the original proof by Tarjan, but it's very complicated < 1433626001 207218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, ackermann isn't involved < 1433626019 975605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's just what falls out somehow from an optimized incremental unification algorithm < 1433626031 384622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can read the details in the Cormen-Leiserson-Rivest-Stein book < 1433626047 289864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof is complicated and probably irrelevant in practice < 1433626090 284968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter 21 < 1433626098 77384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in Knuth yet because it's volume 4 material < 1433626129 210286 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (Alternative f) => Int -> f a -> f [a] < 1433626130 805406 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic idea is simple enough; these data structures are very flat, so their width can be bounded by a fast-growing recursive function < 1433626130 981296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad replicateM :: Monad m => Int -> m a -> m [a] < 1433626130 981380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck.Gen vectorOf :: Int -> Gen a -> Gen [a] < 1433626130 981408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck vectorOf :: Int -> Gen a -> Gen [a] < 1433626158 689221 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: would fmap (take n) work? < 1433626205 818397 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It would not. I want it for a parser, where it must consume no extra from the input stream so it can fail if there’s more. < 1433626230 73384 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s trivial to write myself, of course, but it seems like something that would exist. < 1433626285 399187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is sort of well-known because the algorithm is easy to implement and easy to understand, though proving that time limit is complicated, proving a saner time limit is easy. < 1433626305 99070 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, “atMost n p <* notFollowedBy p”. < 1433626363 468561 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433626388 411962 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:844:f201:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433626403 278994 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you want it to fail if there are too many < 1433626492 345482 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(er, allow failing) < 1433626515 804456 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Allow failing. < 1433626529 944944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think at least in SQLite, WITH RECURSIVE is allowed in other places too; the only restriction is that statements inside of a trigger program are not allowed to start with the WITH keyword (but it is allowed in other parts of those statements). < 1433626553 885678 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the docs say WITH RECURSIVE isn't allowed in subqueries < 1433626561 451702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I'm reading it wrong < 1433626575 937512 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just makes his own. < 1433626596 108212 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsec's combinators can be incomplete in unexpected ways; I've had to rewrite a combinator because the default had the wrong strictness behaviour < 1433626662 71736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433626683 444012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, the data to insert can be specified with a WITH clause, and the FROM of a SELECT statement can have WITH in it, and so on) < 1433626705 680120 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, this is potentially a generic Alternative thing, and also I’m working with parsers, not parsec specifically. < 1433626804 697837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH RECURSIVE is allowed in scalar subqueries, FROM clauses, views, etc. (I have tested this.) < 1433626840 165572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although in SQLite, the RECURSIVE keyword is optional after the WITH keyword and has no effect.) < 1433627051 609723 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, let me see again what the docs say < 1433627077 137756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The documentation for SQLite says: "The WITH clause must appear at the beginning of a top-level SELECT statement or at the beginning of a subquery. The WITH clause cannot be prepended to the second or subsequent SELECT statement of a compound select." That is, it cannot be included directly after a UNION, UNION ALL, INTERSECT, or EXCEPT. < 1433627087 918617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is allowed in subqueries. < 1433627095 362816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I misread < 1433627125 503355 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1433627134 66459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://sqlite.org/lang_select.html also says that < 1433627138 331920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says "The WITH clause cannot be used within a CREATE TRIGGER." which is only partially true. < 1433627168 889732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://sqlite.org/lang_select.html tells that differently < 1433627176 68103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A VALUES clause can be the first element in a compound SELECT that uses a WITH clause, but a simple SELECT that consists of just a VALUES clause cannot be preceded by a WITH clause.; < 1433627180 573525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1433627243 240157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, in that case you can traverse a linked list or even tree in a subquery or view < 1433627482 293262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There doesn't seem to be much reason to precede a simple SELECT that consists of just a VALUES clause by a WITH clause anyways. Nevertheless, it isn't true (in SQLite); I have tried it and it accepts it anyways. < 1433627596 918994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe that changed when they improved VALUES < 1433627660 133663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone use unreferenced labels in C or C++ as sort of documentation, so you can refer to those labels from comment or other text? I've done that in perl, but not (yet) in C or C++. < 1433627665 573845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do it. < 1433627699 291629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though apparently in some settings gcc warns about such labels < 1433627737 366859 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433627818 678575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not done it < 1433627857 464703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some sort of documentation I can just use a comment < 1433628055 474892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you can certainly use comments too < 1433628170 1795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are using CWEB or something like that, then it might help a bit more since then they will be indexed and the cross-references (including those in comments) will also be indexed. (However, it also allow you to just add index entries by yourself too) < 1433628294 15750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I'm reading my own old bug ticket entries a < 1433628344 166285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote "Fixed in patch <patchnumber>. Closing this ticket." then in the next message, "I said, closing this ticket. Close it already, rt." < 1433628350 531654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then someone else closed it < 1433629653 164039 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433629671 664926 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey all < 1433629719 519682 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellyka! < 1433629856 474848 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :update on 4FK: i think Revision 0006e's Core Set is pretty close to finished < 1433629896 411884 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka v0.1-alpha0006e < 1433629969 780630 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, as it has to work with Cuddlefish's TFT and Touch libraries... < 1433630006 650425 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i home the extension coding i wrote is sufficient < 1433630036 55457 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hope < 1433630118 235347 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433630228 373783 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch is easy, except for the little part about it being a QVGA screen, and 320 is bigger than 256 < 1433630677 4095 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433630842 149437 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433631502 500610 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the intended viewer for CYbertown VRML files has an export option, and suddenly other things can read the (exported) files a LOT better < 1433631705 551328 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433632039 434613 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433633032 276023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433633658 787797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? codensity < 1433633659 578234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1433633675 165235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/c/C/' wisdom/codensity < 1433633677 329563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433633783 985976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whom < 1433633784 551821 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433633804 261683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn whom/See: who < 1433633806 56899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «whom» < 1433633808 903444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? who < 1433633809 526645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433633833 17316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Who cares about ancient cases anyway? < 1433633835 63128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'who': Who cares about ancient cases anyway? < 1433633926 364459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? infinitive < 1433633927 110948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitive? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433633958 236498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recursive < 1433633958 919136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433633960 440911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Infinitives are atomic verbs. They were first split in the 1940s, and the world hasn't looked back since. < 1433633962 281861 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'infinitive': Infinitives are atomic verbs. They were first split in the 1940s, and the world hasn't looked back since. < 1433633991 233011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn recursive/See: recursion < 1433633992 972674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «recursive» < 1433634001 855312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recursion < 1433634003 40605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW < 1433634108 269828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily. i seem to have been making a lot of work for you lately. < 1433634139 457543 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. my shameful self is cumulating dishonorable lateness. < 1433634162 473137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1433634166 108902 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm just going to temporarily excise the greek parts and add in everything else. < 1433634195 827825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are the greek parts preventing you from adding the rest < 1433634280 163823 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compilation problems last time I checked. < 1433634294 531031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION verifies if it still refuses to generate... < 1433634309 448774 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1433634318 538234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. time for an overdue update! < 1433634335 373063 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg < 1433634336 300231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial Distributed SCM \ \ basic commands: \ \ add add the specified files on the next commit \ annotate show changeset information by line for each file \ clone make a copy of an existing repository \ commit commit the specified files or all outstanding changes \ diff diff repository (or selected files) \ ex < 1433634347 497730 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the wisdomurl again... < 1433634361 461401 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`repo < 1433634361 988172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: repo: not found < 1433634365 85029 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1433634366 309332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1433634368 524057 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1433634405 880825 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98841263/joey20050224016an.jpg <--- My sister growing up < 1433634477 123752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't surprised to see one more non-human in the chännel < 1433634494 686600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles Lyka for xenobiological research purposes < 1433634502 525908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rerecords Lyka's species < 1433634520 695821 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98841263/Penguin.jpg < 1433634526 413017 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friends < 1433634597 981199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am having a bit difficulty separating friends and furniture, there < 1433634650 172956 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: that looks like my chair. < 1433634674 88434 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the floor is strangely similar.) < 1433634805 960466 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :sitting on the chair and behind the chair < 1433634872 310947 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see who is behind the chair, right? < 1433634968 66655 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis you. < 1433634976 429693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Plain TeX < 1433634977 41381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain TeX? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433634981 366688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't add that one yet < 1433635057 357509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43171&oldid=43162 5* 0375.167.89.115 5* (-1) 10This is Imaginer1 logged out for some reason and wondering why I wrote '2^5' instead of '32' there. < 1433635215 171193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitoven14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43172 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+126) 10Created page with "This page hasn't been categorized yet and supposedly moderators are supposed to be the ones in charge of this. Any help, guys?" < 1433635227 930052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43173&oldid=43172 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+25) 10 < 1433635247 232562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43174&oldid=43173 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+11) 10 < 1433635259 849534 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg JOIN :#esoteric < 1433635300 156165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43175&oldid=43174 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+0) 10 < 1433635324 398877 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vomits < 1433635438 439483 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihellombra! < 1433635446 564393 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you codigesting so? < 1433635465 850314 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some bad sushi < 1433635495 626544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do you expect when you don't cook your food properly duh < 1433635495 839863 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh :( < 1433635521 751072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43176&oldid=43169 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+0) 10Made a minor correction < 1433635529 668832 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only eat veggie sushi < 1433635547 8917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION afahk has never had proper sushi. < 1433635563 904415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the sushi without the stuff inside, so, it is empty sushi < 1433635569 291743 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, when i eat sushi, it is only veggie < 1433635589 810436 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet potato roll is my fave < 1433635604 196982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves this discussion to shachaf  < 1433635615 543868 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433635618 148711 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lyka what was that octopus thing you were going to show < 1433635632 199795 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433635634 698973 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left in a hurry the other month < 1433635655 445010 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like sashimi. surf clam and oil fish are some readily available favourites. < 1433635693 368330 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fried tampura is good < 1433635714 797688 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i gave a certain arduino the name "octopus" when i had 8 wwires sticking out < 1433635763 566497 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4FK Octopus referres to it running on that device < 1433635809 297311 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1433635814 934247 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433635831 404831 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fried tempura? as in, you take some tempura, cover it in tempura batter, and fry it? < 1433635847 746756 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macho man randy savage killed Jesus and stopped the rapture < 1433635852 149452 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1433635854 177070 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you remember how to type in a → in LaTeX? < 1433635878 109452 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a condom company, Boily < 1433635891 708769 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reference for 4FK-CORE is an arduino leonardo + an ethernet/sd shield (ethernet support isn't part of core) < 1433635921 790603 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Called that calamari cause i caled the other one octopus < 1433635926 911549 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds cool < 1433635927 555982 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: no, it's typesetting software. some people here like to give me a headache with it. < 1433635948 173989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: $\rightarrow$ < 1433635955 206218 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( oh yeah baby, align that float... such a fine \caption you have there... ) < 1433635958 569729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain TeX is a better typesetting software < 1433635961 30267 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ais523 < 1433635962 97400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ais523. Thais523. < 1433635963 40521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion < 1433635969 27 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used that one a lot in my thesis < 1433635982 926080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure if there's a textmode version but mathmode is what I needed anyway, and it's not like it's hard to toggle) < 1433635985 622042 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1433636019 979879 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: meanwhile, I just discovered the sudden benefits of YCM in vim. < 1433636033 85542 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy glorious mother of fungot. it autocompletes everything. < 1433636033 351368 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i also believe that it leads to nothing but mistakes are only costly with the emacs equivalent of word macros. awk scripts are becoming gawk scripts. etc etc etc < 1433636056 397949 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that auto completes?? everything??? < 1433636059 152987 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1433636076 956723 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1433636084 31546 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433636111 58117 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: it aucocompletes. smartly. and not only prefixes; as long as the substring exists, it autocompletes. < 1433636116 579599 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use vim? < 1433636124 629099 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cuddlefish is the arduino mega + tft touch lcd < 1433636143 152591 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1433636148 438275 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I should < 1433636269 427142 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: are you the one who added that chuchichäschtli, or was it int-e? < 1433636361 999123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds very swiss < 1433636377 820772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mroman_ is the obvious suspect < 1433636385 608261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chuchichäschtli < 1433636386 332212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuchichäschtli is spoken as ˈχʊχːiˌχæʃːtli < 1433636440 18749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm clearly deficient < 1433636492 591125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/as \(.*\)/as [\1]/' wisdom/chuchichäschtli < 1433636494 360528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433636497 905764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chuchichäschtli < 1433636499 852250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuchichäschtli is spoken as [ˈχʊχːiˌχæʃːtli] < 1433636506 875300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it worked < 1433636695 601731 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1433636700 20192 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that spoken < 1433636801 394326 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as written. < 1433636824 517083 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imported TIPA, read the docs, it worked. on to the next missing entry! < 1433637153 85917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> I think I can make poutine in York relatively easily <-- isn't that cheese stuff sort of rare outside canada, or something? < 1433637176 601019 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese curds? < 1433637182 750737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433637258 450052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cheese curds in cuisine, or cooking, are the solid parts of soured milk either eaten alone or used in various regional dishes, mostly in eastern Canada and the northeastern and midwestern United States." < 1433637286 234552 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fromagesbergeron.com/fromages/7/brins-de-gouda/ ← best curds out there hth < 1433637568 970397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, he's in england, i'm sure you can buy any dairy product known to man with a moderate amount of effort < 1433637631 646224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm when you put it like that... < 1433637691 883176 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange. I expected something about zzo38 in the gopher entry... < 1433637702 531877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then add another sentence if you want to < 1433637706 161867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gopher < 1433637707 518962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. < 1433637718 760214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There look like only one sentence currently < 1433637816 70688 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, who is the [explétif] that added haiku. < 1433637825 823340 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH) < 1433637825 998989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haiku < 1433637827 391488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀨や⛄ < 1433637827 666409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when you censor yourself, you do so in French? < 1433637843 429949 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it flows more naturally hth < 1433637856 733980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🀨や⛄ < 1433637857 459962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F028 MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN] [U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] < 1433637866 359068 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1433637877 909238 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much textual yelling < 1433637890 812112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: it's a haiku made out of unicode character names < 1433637897 888957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that's the first astral planes character that I've seen render correctly in this client < 1433637898 203253 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433637910 634304 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only see the first two in this one client here. < 1433637919 672085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with boily < 1433637927 414338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the significance of the hiragana letter ya? < 1433637949 68465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has 7 syllables hth < 1433637950 216359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see trying to make a snowman during autumn, but having to substitute something else for the snow because there isn't any snow < 1433637954 194492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something quite profound there < 1433637964 275727 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1433637965 390768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas, the hiragana letter seems to have been thrown in just for syllable count < 1433637973 164650 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a ya. やとヤと色々の文字がある。 < 1433637983 805014 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433638021 961389 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1433638027 639893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is a variety of characters and Yatoya." < 1433638035 105266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm going to assume that the Japanese text there is Japanese for "hth" < 1433638045 587945 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha :D < 1433638075 829971 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I should've quoted the ya and the other ya hth < 1433638119 76468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps being slightly annoyed that google's front page app menu pushes g. translate just off the first page so you have to click an extra time to get to it < 1433638163 64348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that does not help me translate it < 1433638203 613368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode やとヤ < 1433638204 291613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+3068 HIRAGANA LETTER TO] [U+30E4 KATAKANA LETTER YA] < 1433638271 396292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, people use Google Translate without typing in the URL directly (or using a browser/feature extension)? < 1433638302 408643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can probably get to Google Translate from the front page of Google the same way you can get anywhere else from the front page of Google < 1433638322 564416 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use wiktionary < 1433638346 299591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm when you put it like that typing the url and autocompleting might be faster < 1433638357 909810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: wiktionary for whole sentences? < 1433638366 640427 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :r my actual paper dictionary (because it has radical-stroke lookup which wiktionary hasn't) < 1433638378 150077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the "I'm feeling lucky" button still exist? < 1433638402 134190 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. I contourné the problem by composing a haiku. < 1433638402 534365 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know japanese grammar, but often I don't know words hh < 1433638406 494693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: wiktionary sort of requires you to have an idea of how the rest of the language works tdnh < 1433638419 132925 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, what's "contourner" in English? I'm drawing a blank here.) < 1433638419 654822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haiku < 1433638420 356055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀨や⛄ < 1433638431 142950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bypass? < 1433638437 592035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :circumvent? < 1433638445 554605 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg < 1433638460 593512 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :food ready < 1433638461 693104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bypass. thanks. < 1433638461 950824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get around" < 1433638469 708901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembered he had gt open < 1433638470 266878 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: いただきます! < 1433638488 924693 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433638508 608708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. And also zzo38." Is that a better way? Probably not, the second sentence isn't very good. < 1433638524 529922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1433638526 163076 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :秋や雪だるま autumn and snowman, and possibly something else. < 1433638532 869816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: back when the GT link actually showed up directly on the google frontpage, that was clearly the easiest way (since i always have the frontpage open) < 1433638534 990239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence got me trying to imagine what the successor of zzo38 would be like < 1433638545 628383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i'm not sure < 1433638552 71349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's not the way it was meant to be parsed < 1433638571 888622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but you have to admit it's very zzo38 < 1433638585 853240 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slurping noises < 1433638588 946858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know it isn't how it meant to be parsed that's why I said it isn't very good < 1433638614 150238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first." < 1433638619 841252 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also zzo38's? < 1433638639 593985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i've heard that norwegian sushi is among the best hth < 1433638660 207291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that would disambiguate, yes < 1433638679 48410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is better < 1433638692 100914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> does the "I'm feeling lucky" button still exist? <-- yes < 1433638797 510856 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :tvilling < 1433638864 616069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i wouldn't know hth < 1433638873 524350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although we have all that salmon) < 1433638887 570881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: what's with the norwegian < 1433638928 862662 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :its gemini if it were a word < 1433638933 121710 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tvilling? < 1433638949 264889 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accurately cannot say < 1433638952 178828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first. < 1433638953 447984 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a norwegian gerund? < 1433638954 2148 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gopher': Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first. < 1433638982 554846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least this is better than how it was before. (Whether or not it is even more better than that, I don't know.) < 1433639010 5021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? All The Tropes < 1433639011 217682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A card game where you win if you collect *all* of the tropes. < 1433639045 827052 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :?tvilling < 1433639046 2702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1433639061 801320 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry wasnt trying to do that < 1433639140 171807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a twin hth < 1433639168 347643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: also gemini is tvillingene if you mean the astrological sign < 1433639175 859111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's plural definite) < 1433639178 110628 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :0O1lI2Z6G8B < 1433639183 980775 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1433639202 280599 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disambiguately mapoles oren < 1433639210 50572 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the t silent or the V < 1433639216 642150 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying out a font < 1433639265 771159 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nanum Gothic Coding is a good font < 1433639269 748239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think either one must be silenced? < 1433639281 102944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look to me? < 1433639284 4470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oren> is it a norwegian gerund? <-- i'm not sure norwegian has gerunds, really, we tend to use the infinitive where english uses it. although we do have a cognate verbal noun used for word building, like in german. < 1433639315 396027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? how to stand on the ceiling < 1433639316 122819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to stand on the ceiling? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433639355 994244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? isn't really a general question-answering tool < 1433639356 669708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't really a general question-answering tool? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433639360 488567 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use suction cups on your feet < 1433639373 829434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, the trick is to be on top of the ceiling < 1433639377 151875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can stand on it the normal way < 1433639398 371904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: neither the t nor the v is silent < 1433639424 344438 :AndChat248436!~AndChat24@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433639437 944040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact tvillingene doesn't really have any silent letters, although ll is a single lengthened sound and ng is a single velar nasal < 1433639461 498941 :AndChat248436!~AndChat24@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1433639468 400659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically the same sounds as usually in english) < 1433639473 191298 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to learn norwegion < 1433639490 827446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/basically/more or less/ < 1433639501 815568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the ll is not entirely identical < 1433639511 49750 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... I don't actually find i hard to pronounce a v after a t < 1433639585 768168 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm learning how to use chopstick atm < 1433639601 279994 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im starting to think I have atrophy in my hands < 1433639604 997362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: beware. you're treading on dangerous paths here. next thing you know, you'll be eating lutefisk. < 1433639619 643481 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1433639633 239357 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had that tho < 1433639638 203028 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, it's not hard at all. try with potato chips first < 1433639642 24439 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :its strange < 1433639648 746450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using three or four fingers? < 1433639658 163281 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you hold them though < 1433639675 382333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or five fingers? < 1433639678 132368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43177&oldid=43175 5* 03Ais523 5* (+580) 10explain the categories rule < 1433639688 309298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But using your feet would be cheating. < 1433639723 126414 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLMZF8Ufhg < 1433639767 955952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Amiga < 1433639768 704614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amiga? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433639791 117646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you talking about the english ll or the welsh ll? they're entirely different sounds < 1433639801 398260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the welsh one can be sort-of approximated as "chl" but not really < 1433639808 710675 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandfather is Japanese and he's coming over with his family because my sister is having a wedding so i don't want to look dumb < 1433639814 563631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know very good Welsh speaking < 1433639828 314896 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can pronounce tvill pretty well < 1433639938 887765 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grip looks more like http://www.tastyislandhawaii.com/images/chopsticks_hold_ind5.jpg < 1433639947 489898 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(left handed and all.) < 1433640009 227628 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is so much < 1433640021 501051 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't hold sticks properly < 1433640031 141577 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I doing with my life < 1433640043 206662 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on I'll take a picture < 1433640083 968519 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the norwegian ll would be the same as the english ll as far as I know < 1433640105 620296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically just an "l" that removes the remote control ability of vowels < 1433640106 563600 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. just a lengthened l sound < 1433640131 122070 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433640171 569854 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise until now, reading the scrollback, that "tv" could be uncommon/unusual < 1433640187 213510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i am certainly not talking about actual welsh celtic language. however there _is_ a difference, but english varies a lot in this. < 1433640208 705707 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1433640209 508657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? <oren> apparently not santa claus <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1228) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1433640213 55442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tv" is fine in English if they're in two separate sulllables :P < 1433640216 884182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*syllables < 1433640218 334747 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. there are quotes. < 1433640222 988146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both in the same syllable is very unusual < 1433640236 326683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's not babbling? or has boily hit the babble limit? < 1433640247 960449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:^):^ < 1433640251 487169 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you'll be in the PDF soon! hurrah! hurray! < 1433640252 207360 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you alive? < 1433640253 366005 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot wilk pick up < 1433640258 167549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the ll in tvillingene is not velarized (i was going to say norwegian l never is, but i'm not sure after back vowels) < 1433640260 395989 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will be awful < 1433640265 556839 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants his fungot < 1433640285 563251 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce Ingene though < 1433640291 229700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while l tends to be velarized in american english, and _sometimes_ in RP, and otherwise varies all over the place. < 1433640301 153737 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then host it < 1433640304 662550 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will be yours < 1433640330 336631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're from wales, your _english_ ll might very well be close to the norwegian one. < 1433640346 560751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_phonology#Sonorants < 1433640380 219464 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does ror use some kind of supercoder < 1433640380 395285 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1433640380 395364 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but the people who get annoyed) l) is different from what i've seen in my 30 years on it < 1433640380 395385 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: like in a play... hmm... fnord looks neato. what else is an awesome idea. < 1433640380 395403 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: _i_ am not complaining) ' concurrency.' < 1433640390 349356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm reading the RP entry correctly, it would also be velarized in -illi- < 1433640391 798914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's just beings low < 1433640407 884010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "velarized" mean? < 1433640427 968474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxcXE11iO1QiT2xURDVxSjNIeGtDYlZLNzFYYVBoVEowTThN/view?usp=sharing < 1433640446 461957 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is me holding an sd card up using two pencils < 1433640525 714803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Amiga is spanish for a female friend. < 1433640528 532655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'amiga': Amiga is spanish for a female friend. < 1433640536 607343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Amiga is Spanish for a female friend. < 1433640538 279496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'amiga': Amiga is Spanish for a female friend. < 1433640581 873107 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't find an example of no:tvillingene, but here's sv:tvillingarna: http://www.forvo.com/word/tvillingarna/#sv (apparently by a swiss person, but it sounds correct to me) < 1433640624 369936 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you 21 Oren < 1433640642 571749 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: there are only two orens. oren and orin. hth. < 1433640659 206325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1433640660 372700 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: chopcils? < 1433640666 245916 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, no, 22 now < 1433640678 150176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<FireFly> ais523: the norwegian ll would be the same as the english ll as far as I know <-- i can _clearly_ hear the difference between the ll in no:tvilling and the ll in en:sillier the way i pronounce them, of course i'm not an authority on the latter. < 1433640695 576814 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell from muscle structure most of the time but there was a lot of light < 1433640702 530030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, my brain's parser is a little broken < 1433640708 404848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a line that pings me and has a ← in < 1433640711 27915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assume I'm being quoted < 1433640763 325762 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ you are ais523. htp. < 1433640771 975593 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet < 1433640773 767524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1433640778 466698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1433640800 641196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? INTERCAL < 1433640801 450113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market. < 1433640832 476565 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BASIC < 1433640833 125490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433640836 570096 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1433640877 277962 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about en:full? < 1433640952 615830 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just accidentally spinning food around with these sticks < 1433640968 890710 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ll in en:full sounds similar to the one in sv:tvillingarna when I pronounce them, but I certainly don't trust my english pronounciation to follow either RP or US pronounciation < 1433640976 516017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Nihilumbra> how do you pronounce Ingene though <-- [iŋenə] i think < 1433640985 220520 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pineapple < 1433640986 147989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pineapple is a hybrid species descended from a cultivar of spinach and wild ivy, therefore making it a class 6 vegetable. < 1433640999 679257 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1433641007 900369 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :that n has a booger < 1433641038 752022 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that n doesn't exist in Irish linguistics so idk what you are trying for < 1433641095 146669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> what does "velarized" mean? <-- it's somewhat mysterious to me too, apparently there's some lifting of the back of the tongue added to some consonants. but "l" is the only one i can distinguish sort of reliably. < 1433641114 848749 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that < 1433641120 783378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velarization < 1433641122 929685 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds strange < 1433641131 296686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, I can pronounce two different audibly consonants by moving my tongue like that, but one of them isn't really an l < 1433641247 25483 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: do you mean ŋ? that's the "ng" in e.g. "thing" < 1433641259 39953 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433641273 246386 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can say that then < 1433641291 508980 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused as to what oerjan was saying < 1433641298 988269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i _think_ swedish and norwegian l are both "clear" (i.e. nonvelarized) in general. it sounded clear on that link you gave, anyway. < 1433641343 963560 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1433641381 474870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433641387 71486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if we have velarized l at all < 1433641426 45083 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently the ll in sv:allt according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_lateral_approximant#Dental_or_denti-alveolar_2 < 1433641449 837896 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wrong table < 1433641455 909909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_lateral_approximant#Dental_or_denti-alveolar < 1433641506 546348 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if I pronounce that differently or not < 1433641521 414899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i pronounce en:full velarized too. i think i basically always do that to english l. < 1433641533 695650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: iow, like an american afaiu < 1433641616 542174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: ŋ is the same sound as english writes ng (but _not_ with the g pronounced like in "finger") < 1433641716 494116 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the ŋ sound like < 1433641737 734842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43178&oldid=43176 5* 0375.167.89.115 5* (+114) 10added some categories (Imaginer1) < 1433641811 556366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: like ng in english "sing" < 1433641836 876277 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :fing and sing are the same sound oerjan < 1433641860 453199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: it's common for "finger" to have the g pronounced as well in english < 1433641872 833981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in "singer" i _think_ < 1433641880 334230 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1433641902 725268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not very sure about this. < 1433641928 296097 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's isn't an English word that I know of that has ing in it that doesn't have the g clearly pronounced < 1433641934 408694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there should be _no_ hard g sound in ng when pronounced in norwegian. < 1433641980 921122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: i am skeptical, but there are all kinds of english dialect. note that when i say hard g i _don't_ just mean that n is different from ng < 1433642010 97238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that there are essentially two part sounds to -ng- in finger < 1433642022 73033 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433642067 775315 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce finger as staya with me here, F- ee-N - gurr < 1433642070 589398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's always a bit of it left in english < 1433642091 246921 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also pronounce all g's as a hard g < 1433642095 924059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: well yes, that's what i expect. it's _other_ words than finger i'm wondering about. < 1433642105 248314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. just "sing", with nothing after it. < 1433642113 39636 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :see n g a < 1433642148 768940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: um if you have an a there, i think you have a _weird_ dialect. < 1433642168 662570 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :sing < 1433642170 651679 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1433642175 633702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes some other native english speaker would chime in here < 1433642184 715887 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :the I is more of a hum too < 1433642206 752708 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a schwa maybe < 1433642219 414614 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What dialect is this? < 1433642221 369467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're not native english speaker tdnh < 1433642239 81007 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct, also my english isn't all that good (especially not the pronounciation) < 1433642240 352289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm at the point where i won't believe the judgement of anyone who isn't. < 1433642259 681408 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably wise < 1433642271 628979 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :its for me S ee n g "a" and the a is a fast syllable so its only audible in words that end with ing < 1433642279 919709 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :like see n guh < 1433642338 683746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433642374 93020 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a person says a word and hear the correct pronounciation I can say it back with no error < 1433642385 416542 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear* < 1433642443 151913 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? I'm confused no one else pronounces it like that? < 1433642478 866155 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you live, if you don't mind? < 1433642528 228987 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Washington state but I was born and raised in pallasgreen, Limerick and leanred English there < 1433642533 81002 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :learned* < 1433642561 691330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, well I dunno < 1433642671 452910 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ DING ♪ new PDF version! < 1433642694 484535 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1433642948 302945 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's Elliott < 1433642954 337377 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :did He die < 1433643003 228191 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott where are you? did you die? < 1433643003 748164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433643041 381887 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1433643043 530547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.6655 < 1433643117 351963 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much of a hassle now. will do quotes later. < 1433644456 37348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SOLUBLE CHICKEN < 1433645225 957398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433645327 200018 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433648386 447654 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433648386 677413 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433648561 63918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1433648561 959966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1433648591 271317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/on .*/on EFnet or DALnet./' wisdom/esoteric < 1433648592 722906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433648596 93652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1433648598 906837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1433648618 471046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1433648618 685256 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what are you up to oerjan < 1433648619 189331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433648643 940366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: we found out there was an #esoteric on EFnet, which may be more alive than the DALnet one. < 1433648668 287728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm updating the advice. < 1433648676 46208 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433648686 217096 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the port for efnet < 1433648723 108976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my vague understanding is that EFnet doesn't have a global way of accessing it, you need to look up their server list e.g. on the web. < 1433648767 290061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be confused about it, though. < 1433648776 563351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't on EFnet himself. < 1433648832 665029 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, irc.efnet.org works. < 1433648898 308486 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the adress < 1433648899 370508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm probably confused then, or outdated. < 1433648907 747040 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the port < 1433648915 393775 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess 6667? < 1433648930 375502 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssl? < 1433648946 273383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they do SSL, probably not < 1433648959 574175 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're better off just looking it up instead < 1433648964 835504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _still_ think looking it up is... right < 1433649039 24606 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 10 ppl < 1433649062 24788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably about 10 more than the DALnet channel < 1433649187 348010 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only some of their servers do SSL. < 1433649237 730709 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it hurts as much for them as it would for others -- no nickserv means no logins. < 1433649253 916697 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats pikhq < 1433649262 885351 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean no nickserv < 1433649272 845843 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFnet does not do services. < 1433649279 376561 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffft < 1433649283 215683 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no nickserv. There is no chanserv. < 1433649306 651624 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be < 1433649323 426540 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1433649350 165987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you add the wisdom file for "Plain TeX" yet? < 1433649376 174237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn plain tex/Plain TeX is plain annoying. < 1433649378 64145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «plain tex» < 1433649386 654615 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433649388 976024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU NAG < 1433649421 520244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn plain tex/Plain TeX is plain annoying. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU NAG < 1433649423 912143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «plain tex» < 1433649474 192151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'plain tex' < 1433649477 462936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433649532 549644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PDF < 1433649533 154050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433649640 923077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PDF < 1433649641 698977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433649651 223533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops sorry I shouldn't repeat myself < 1433649662 794134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format. < 1433649665 116164 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'pdf': PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format. < 1433649684 726290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may note a common thread here. < 1433649684 901756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I push "REPEAT" by mistake < 1433649710 464279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1433649711 448126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1433649717 87390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a REPEAT key that your irc client understands? < 1433649722 800702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1433649726 90413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1433650136 51589 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433650726 640240 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, if one had a re-programmable keyboard, one could add a REPEAT key that repeats everything up until the last enter < 1433650763 294074 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433650766 121720 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :sir robin ran away, oh brae sir robin... < 1433650772 272748 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :when danger reared its ugly head he tucked his tail and turned and ran, oh brave brave sir robin < 1433650801 211952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a re-programmable keyboard < 1433650988 108747 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433651583 960990 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1433651649 690361 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1? latex < 1433651653 680224 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? latex < 1433651656 559860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1433651713 81672 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? python < 1433651713 696275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433651721 870329 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1433651723 964960 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1433651734 457390 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1433651735 67393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433651741 52846 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1433651741 776639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1433651767 653623 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ��V�>WIד�.�� < 1433651768 452028 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+0056 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0057 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+05D3 HEBREW LETTER DALET] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+002E FULL STOP] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT C < 1433651773 811854 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus < 1433651811 615810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it to including improper UTF-8 codes too < 1433651826 63938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, you also forgot Python and Ruby < 1433651834 50926 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't spell slaughter without laughter < 1433651876 55667 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scheme < 1433651876 752636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433651879 668121 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this code do: for(;P("\n"),R--;P("|"))for(e=C;e--;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2); < 1433651914 266978 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1433651920 895958 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how can I understand it < 1433651928 451221 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw it online < 1433651933 411615 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's c < 1433651935 278755 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :as one does < 1433651939 221089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the P means here even. < 1433651939 963865 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate c now < 1433651942 674473 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: enhances someone's job security < 1433651950 746365 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is'nt normal C < 1433651958 442552 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :it better not be < 1433651980 857017 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was worried they updated it < 1433652004 54474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C++ < 1433652004 797682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1433652012 942750 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C# < 1433652013 553514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C#? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433652018 236032 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from the unix hoax page < 1433652019 469659 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is like java < 1433652033 479898 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is a language for dumb teachers < 1433652039 742047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like C instead of C++ but you can program C++ too if you like that one too. < 1433652048 268213 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: incorrect. C# *is* Java < 1433652067 496502 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1433652073 392344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think C# is a different program language from Java, and uses a different VM too < 1433652096 355492 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college, we had to learn jaa before we could learn C#' < 1433652109 283717 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :*java < 1433652110 526275 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is way better than Java < 1433652120 682032 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1433652126 948245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you learned 6502 assembly language programming? < 1433652127 123935 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433652133 370436 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433652136 328330 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1433652148 482811 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mother knows that language zzo38 < 1433652162 268028 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask her if you want answers < 1433652180 601793 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must be oungr than me < 1433652186 285143 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn C#/C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1433652188 352916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «c#» < 1433652202 512638 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C# < 1433652203 617333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1433652216 93400 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you? < 1433652223 95328 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 < 1433652224 627698 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 < 1433652237 289744 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already know oren but lyka yes I am < 1433652247 844966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can learn 6502 assembly language programming to program Famicom and also some other computers < 1433652257 985318 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 17- a week from 18 < 1433652263 205153 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 6502 < 1433652263 900868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433652280 430785 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why whoul anyone in their right mid wanna program an NES? < 1433652281 222164 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1433652282 3961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433652295 217348 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mind < 1433652305 622382 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1433652307 597170 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1433652308 205753 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: to make classic awesome video games like Super Mario Bros 3 < 1433652314 98219 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fun < 1433652317 895532 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that < 1433652321 645308 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to modify them for fun < 1433652334 642085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: Well, I think it is a good system < 1433652339 275840 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433652356 741257 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't you think it to be cool if your mother could make you NES games, lyka? < 1433652371 385750 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even have to buy them < 1433652376 726825 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be weird < 1433652386 34605 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :?¿ < 1433652386 210236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn v rc pl id do bf @ ? . < 1433652398 540868 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433652400 38522 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lambdabot < 1433652413 278081 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿ why would it be weird??? < 1433652488 752344 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have different moms < 1433652492 152264 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433652521 228327 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that < 1433652539 327763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 6502 is a good programming language compared to the mess they made of the newest x86 and ARM systems < 1433652613 306055 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I asked if would be cool if you had a mom like that as in your mom doesn't up and learn 6502 and start scrapping nes games together and making new ones lyka < 1433652667 695550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people still do make game for NES/Famicom today. < 1433652681 614612 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying you tried to insult my mother? < 1433652733 122492 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1433652740 588140 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/TxV5Z7r.jpg < 1433652742 659786 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyka < 1433652754 504526 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even try to make assumptions of what I say < 1433652774 71713 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't enjoy people who try that < 1433652842 211094 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insulting ones mother is a bad thing to do but if I were to do It I would be to the point and not work my way around with an argument, Although I don't know your mother but she seems nice < 1433652889 621312 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am hungry and half-asleep which means my paranoia is more than normal < 1433652939 900453 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta go get my midnight snack before the cloc hits 1am < 1433653025 957034 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could < 1433653029 769865 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep? < 1433653041 765953 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :because staying up is extremely unhealthy < 1433653168 627106 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is arguing with a crazy tired person at one am < 1433653288 411282 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 pm* < 1433653300 161076 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop living somewhere else < 1433653738 333149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZLEEP, you said? < 1433653771 497037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "ZZLEEP" a real word? < 1433653796 294605 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1433653851 903538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't updated the level20.tex in a while, not any new chapters, not any corrections to what it already is. But it probably contains mistakes that I have not yet noticed < 1433654220 886140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day I was trying to play someone's Hammond organ but it wouldn't turn on; the owner said that probably the motor is broken. But I thought surely that must be wrong because it doesn't have a motor it works by electrics! But, I did not know it had rotating speakers. < 1433654551 977159 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the 'dependencies' on packages are clearly not < 1433654569 321480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example? < 1433654643 667195 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the libSDL-dev package on Ubuntu, it says it is dependent on pulseaudio client development package. but sdl programs compile and run just fine without any pulseaudio < 1433654772 889003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you edit the package? < 1433654870 961887 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to simply download packages manually and then run dpkg < 1433654991 191402 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg doesn't automatically download dependent packages, so you can control it better when you notice the dependencies are stupid < 1433655130 609992 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? apt-get < 1433655131 280530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433655201 586571 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn apt-get/apt-get installs whatever you wanted, plus whatever Mark Shuttleworth wanted. < 1433655204 970273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «apt-get» < 1433655307 394748 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-230-37.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433655452 779237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular old `learn would have worked there < 1433655460 706207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bu `le/rn is obviously superior < 1433655610 661225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, bellingham < 1433655661 725983 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mednafen includes every emulator known to mankind, but for tha reason it takes a million years to comile < 1433655787 625907 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emulator < 1433655788 290620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emulator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433655799 825293 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wine < 1433655800 475817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433655831 209129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir wisdom/le; echo 'le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past' > wisdom/le/rn < 1433655831 843823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `wisdom/le': File exists \ bash: wisdom/le/rn: Not a directory < 1433655860 742016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433655861 633055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn seems to be working rn but it didn't earlier < 1433655870 636716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/le; mkdir wisdom/le; echo 'le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past' > wisdom/le/rn < 1433655872 399129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/le': Is a directory \ mkdir: cannot create directory `wisdom/le': File exists < 1433655883 315862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1433655884 48711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past < 1433656002 689601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/le/rn < 1433656004 591444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433656559 581488 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433656560 585980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: le: Is a directory < 1433656563 475142 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lern < 1433656564 76260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433656566 549143 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1433656567 316478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1433656955 12282 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1433656955 758489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. < 1433656962 854937 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433657049 648822 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Lyka < 1433657050 384136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433657154 998631 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tar < 1433657155 702921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433657166 244467 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1433657247 553126 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you called me? < 1433657303 957968 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tar/The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf < 1433657306 374879 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tar» < 1433657356 883791 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433657365 29928 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433657410 482324 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never, ever, forget the -k in tar -xavkf < 1433657487 69291 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: I'm cutting myself off till my homework is complete < 1433657749 215583 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why? < 1433657765 208348 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's handy < 1433657904 272913 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah. a year ago I spent an hour modding some program that did almost what I needed, to do what I needed, and then pressed up, up, enter with the wrong number of ups, obliterating it. < 1433658176 796686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -a is jus convenience, so you don't have to remember that z is gzip, Z is compress, j is bzip2, J is xzip < 1433658212 491459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally just use pipes though < 1433658236 824805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar doesn't need all of those options < 1433658291 110212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best way is to design the program to follow the principle to use pipes as much as possible. My own software such as AmigaMML is following such principle. < 1433658334 804053 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is GNU tar. GNU wouldn't be GNU without their habit of adding every possible letter as an option letter to every program < 1433658362 310418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU adds too much stuff < 1433658364 835123 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: GNU tar does -a implicitly I suppose. I usually just tar xf and it handles tar, tar.gz, tar.bz2 and tar.xz < 1433658413 507965 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. handy < 1433658626 192912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pipe zcat to tar, that's how you do it < 1433658724 113962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use tar -x < 1433658734 248730 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair point < 1433658768 754523 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm dealing with an archive format at the moment where each file might be stored plain or compressed.. what would you do in such a case? < 1433658790 158335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of archive format is that? < 1433658812 512219 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GARC", I don't know what the G stands for < 1433658835 905735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: A decompression program that detects whether the file is compressed? < 1433658837 252121 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's used in Pokemon X/Y to store things < 1433658861 659140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the archive format itself is having compression, then it can be part of the same program. < 1433658877 928999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sensible enough < 1433658884 755538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the compression is separate (like with .tar.gz) then you should use the separate program. < 1433658904 401776 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right, that's pretty much what I'm doing currently < 1433660795 612273 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433662557 804787 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xpovpvkirzzffnxg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433664618 120035 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433664813 80145 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newest mednafen supports custom palettes < 1433665327 472137 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/vbym49fob/ < 1433665585 468394 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1433665615 171963 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the palette format is pretty much undocumented, but by reading the source and experimenting, I concluded that a complete palette is 24 bytes, consisting of 8 24-bit colors < 1433665662 583739 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the game boy. I don't know what the format for other systems it) < 1433665872 114240 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's refresing actually. there's no complex header or version number or other such nonsense. just 24 bytes. < 1433665981 568742 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What upscaling algorithm is that? < 1433665993 659973 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hq4x < 1433666610 47654 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a polite way of saying "You seem to know me but I have no idea who you are" < 1433666801 514002 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... dang." < 1433666844 721554 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. "Have we met before?" is maybe the best I can come up with < 1433667135 454683 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433667540 511476 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curse you readline! < 1433667607 482105 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433667878 92004 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've noticed a bug in one of their scalers, I'm gonna try to fix it < 1433668129 603052 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433669072 78094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1433669206 842796 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm sorry but right now I'm struggling to remember our last encounter. < 1433669231 378510 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you give me a hint? < 1433669304 746708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1433670598 123056 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:83a:a001:54a8:a890:7042:fb97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433670825 641614 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! fixed the bug < 1433670840 988779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1433670890 31351 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on, I'll make a sample < 1433671162 144443 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/5hv845msv/b791af2c/ < 1433671195 128057 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :illustrates the difference. see the weird pinwheel effect in the nose of the spacefighter < 1433671247 428129 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed that, but it looks different in other situations. I think I'll try to fix that too < 1433671359 939911 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm I guess it's less of a bug fix and more a custom algorithm < 1433671396 674687 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey that's the entire point of using open-source software anyay < 1433671426 69318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433672775 43953 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433672845 536503 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1433672876 374609 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433675570 671562 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433676392 614371 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit I forgot to push some things to my Gulf repos from work :( < 1433676775 11967 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though there's some overhead with , and . much of the stuff can be done shorter than Burlesque < 1433676785 533550 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1bc4ro?/ for example, is now a mere ,Z1/:4 < 1433677184 767229 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might need another prefix for 3 argument functions < 1433677457 499813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ΜCurse14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43179&oldid=40993 5* 03Sacchan 5* (+432) 10 < 1433677506 972398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ΜCurse14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43180&oldid=43179 5* 03Sacchan 5* (+1) 10 < 1433677779 68141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ΜCurse14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43181&oldid=43180 5* 03Sacchan 5* (+0) 10 < 1433677805 552951 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ΜCurse14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43182&oldid=43181 5* 03Sacchan 5* (+0) 10 < 1433677898 758002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You can say you've lost your memory because of a tragic accident, I understand that's pretty common. < 1433677909 598703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Based on fiction, anyway.) < 1433679563 699237 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :More fun complexity analyses: O(n^34 k^34 d^8 log(n)^4 / σ^6) < 1433679602 607864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I'm imagining a posh voice saying "I'm sorry, but have we met?!" (bonus: raised eybrows) < 1433679651 743107 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Upper bound on smoothed running time for the k-means algorithm) < 1433679676 800952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that looks horrible. < 1433679712 423685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just find it amusing that they bothered to include the log(n)^4 < 1433679761 304640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise it's not a valid upper bound? < 1433679776 85375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they could've used n^(34+o(1))... < 1433679797 475458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what the o is < 1433679820 449024 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or how they got 34 over n and only 4 over log(n)) < 1433679895 483683 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :o(1) means that it tends to zero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation#Little-o_notation < 1433679956 526131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you had a sigma there... sorry, the difference is very subtle in the font I'm using. < 1433680003 840613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the question I meant to ask is, what's that σ < 1433680019 215594 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433680116 163568 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-means_clustering#Complexity, d is the dimension and σ is the stddev for randomly smoothing the input data < 1433680139 120490 :password2_!~password@197.77.3.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433680435 834213 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that 'K' meant clstering... < 1433680468 483556 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :just making a joe on the URL < 1433680476 699091 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*joke < 1433680574 811945 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is clearly the stupidest person in th room < 1433682329 220080 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1433682395 657590 :password2!~password@197.77.23.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433682435 705781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The running time of Lloyds algorithm is often given as O(nkdi), where n is the number of d-dimensional vectors, k the number of clusters and i the number of iterations needed until convergence." < 1433682443 482911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the 'i' part, since you can nicely generalize that to "the running time of algorithm X is O(t), where t is the number of operations performed by the algorithm". < 1433682721 983285 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing. It's linear in the time taken by the algorithm < 1433682930 413780 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is there an obvious bound on i? < 1433683023 214181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in general. < 1433684012 23696 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerding it up old school https://twitter.com/J_Arcane/status/607539688317022208 < 1433684363 664717 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BDSM < 1433684369 909650 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433684374 687407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, ??? < 1433684378 6593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1433684417 411871 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So more like, the running time is unbounded? < 1433684443 820862 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1433684452 48074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover < 1433684452 589983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know there's a character in xcom called van doorn < 1433684462 90702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, someone has told me in the pst < 1433684463 992139 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*past < 1433684467 519588 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly you) < 1433684477 845582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not an unheard of name in the Netherlands < 1433684539 642950 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a DJ and a former anti-Islam politician who converted to Islam < 1433684682 3395 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot0 this seems useful < 1433684682 742336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems useful < 1433684833 645052 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot26 this seems MORE useful < 1433684834 428930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems MORE useful < 1433684863 865101 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it cheats :( < 1433684906 674544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone think of a cunning way to put all my inventions on my CV < 1433684943 267722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1433684946 173327 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1433684957 899227 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TIL < 1433684958 901735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that TIL means Today I Learned < 1433684967 734513 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? persistence < 1433684972 330485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's been around ever since. < 1433684981 530215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that kind of persistence. < 1433685113 202465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wolfram < 1433685113 974104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1433685176 579646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We call a property of many-sorted TRS's persistent if a many-sorted TRS has the property if and only if its adjoined one-sorted TRS has the property." < 1433685305 422806 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433685528 687195 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-99-33.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1433685660 170348 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433685856 908454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433685865 76221 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1433685904 594082 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1433685904 808166 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433685981 736453 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433686001 76882 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out how to add a custom scaler to mednafen < 1433686036 488460 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I;m gonna make one that is hideously inefficient but makes eveything look exactly right < 1433686179 206424 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually maybe it can still be efficiant if I get the order of the tests correct < 1433686346 204777 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433687673 708912 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433687976 84074 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coming along ok http://s17.postimg.org/48v0giw0v/notperfect.png < 1433688386 722857 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433688602 872804 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433688926 185785 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just downloaded advent children again < 1433688952 432355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it came out, i was like "ok this is it. there will never be 3d graphic more perfect than this." < 1433688954 955096 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now meh :\ < 1433688969 913016 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fire is ugly, the detail is low overall < 1433688989 17477 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's still cool but :( < 1433689009 342980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok. in a century we'll think real life has shitty graphics hth < 1433689084 309557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, especially the effects < 1433689137 227211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we need more people like Tarquin, who install dimmers in their palace just so they can give foreshadowings in a monologue better < 1433689147 443992 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I remember admiring the graphics of Myst... < 1433689193 787277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound like tarquin although i don't remember the scene. < 1433689199 576073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays even the remastered edition (16bit images, no longer restricted to an 8 bit palette!!) looks quite plain. < 1433689250 836132 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is myst? < 1433689255 447485 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 1993 < 1433689304 122138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :note, they only had prerendered gaphics. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Myst-library_and_ship.jpg < 1433689312 279096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that picture is fairly typical. < 1433689331 138761 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :much detail < 1433689333 505893 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :very graphic < 1433689359 119640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was one of the first games to ship exclusively on on CDROM. < 1433689392 95671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe people should play sound effects on their mobile phones during dialogs or meetings < 1433689746 97183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dimmers are in strip #751 < 1433690037 664607 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what i'm gonna do is, I'm gonna look at 21 pixels instead of nine around each pixel < 1433690301 570108 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just write ad-hoc code for every situation < 1433690438 168397 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he is stupidest person in the room < 1433690441 310965 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. Is there a standard haskell function splitting a number into digits? < 1433690510 106899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :show. < 1433690535 114149 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else this topic is not my are of knowledge < 1433690595 380567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: i wouldn't bet on that. at least not all the time. < 1433690603 453232 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type showIntAtBase < 1433690605 595131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral a, Show a) => a -> (Int -> Char) -> a -> ShowS < 1433690653 540223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: itym "show" hth < 1433690657 23476 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah, but that involves roundtripping through Char. < 1433690663 155393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was my first reply < 1433690669 729554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433690679 75648 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for different bases, yes. Sorry, forgot to specify that. < 1433690740 222734 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean “map digitToInt (showIntAtBase base intToDigit num "")” works, but I wanted to know if there isn’t something a bit more elegant. < 1433690769 310587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's anything else that handles other bases. < 1433690795 215520 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay then. < 1433690800 103396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather stupid that showIntAtBase is restricted to Char :( < 1433690817 591298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no intrinsic reason why it should be. < 1433690839 831101 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let d b n | b > n = [n] | otherwise = let (x:xs) = d (b^2) n in (if x < b then (x :) else (div x b :) . (mod x b :)) (xs >>= \x -> [div x b, mod x b]) in [d b 1000 | b <- [2,8,10,16]] < 1433690844 20510 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0],[1,7,5,0],[1,0,0,0],[3,14,8]] < 1433690852 512671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's been at least one proposal to generalize it. < 1433690859 146555 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :map (`mod` b) . takeWhile (>0) . iterate (`div` b) < 1433690906 895284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.haskell.libraries/24560 < 1433690931 196139 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let d b n | b > n = [n] | otherwise = let (x:xs) = d (b^2) n in (if x < b then (x :) else (div x b :) . (mod x b :)) (xs >>= \x -> [div x b, mod x b]) < 1433690933 239692 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:20: < 1433690933 415501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘d’ < 1433690933 415570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘L.d’, defined at .L.hs:147:1 < 1433690939 656381 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1433690968 213505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let digits b n | b > n = [n] | otherwise = let (x:xs) = digits (b^2) n in (if x < b then (x :) else (div x b :) . (mod x b :)) (xs >>= \x -> [div x b, mod x b]) < 1433690970 763791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1433690978 284615 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> digits 9 (10^10000) < 1433690980 833880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,0,8,8,0,8,2,5,0,4,5,2,7,4,6,0,5,2,4,8,5,8,5,3,2,5,4,3,8,0,6,6,3,2,3,8,0,0... < 1433691000 734293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits b = map (`mod` b) . takeWhile (>0) . iterate (`div` b) in digits 9 (10^10000) < 1433691003 583142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,4,2,0,4,3,3,0,0,6,4,2,7,2,5,4,8,4,6,4,0,8,6,2,8,6,2,5,4,0,0,7,5,7,5,3,3... < 1433691031 313901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits b = map (`mod` b) . takeWhile (>0) . iterate (`div` b) in reverse $ digits 9 (10^10000) < 1433691034 500817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,0,8,8,0,8,2,5,0,4,5,2,7,4,6,0,5,2,4,8,5,8,5,3,2,5,4,3,8,0,6,6,3,2,3,8,0,0... < 1433691051 667523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits b = map (`mod` b) . takeWhile (>0) . iterate (`div` b) in reverse $ digits 9 (10^100000) < 1433691056 71992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1433691062 852401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> digits 9 (10^10000) < 1433691065 289517 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,0,8,8,0,8,2,5,0,4,5,2,7,4,6,0,5,2,4,8,5,8,5,3,2,5,4,3,8,0,6,6,3,2,3,8,0,0... < 1433691079 371579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. < 1433691080 721449 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> digits 9 (10^100000) < 1433691083 135350 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,8,0,5,3,6,7,3,7,4,7,0,7,2,3,0,0,0,2,5,7,0,7,6,1,5,2,0,7,7,1,7,3,0,0,6,3... < 1433691097 255809 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I spammed a bit more than I intended. < 1433691309 773148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: anyway I'd use something like Jafet's code if the numbers are small, and something like mine if the numbers can become big. If I really cared about performance for big numbers I'd start by computing the largest power of b that fits into a machine word... < 1433691389 634305 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, Jafet: Thank you. < 1433691522 198972 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my purpose the numbers shall always be 1114111 in bases 8, 10, and 16, but magic numbers and stuff. < 1433691908 370094 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433691954 558344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this opposition on the list to generalizing showIntAtBase is weird - afaict from the code, the *only* change necessary is the type signature. < 1433691958 878119 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433692125 15895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which list? < 1433692161 762863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.haskell.libraries/24560 < 1433692192 211000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a while ago. < 1433692302 981724 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just going to roundtrip through showIntAtBase because that way it’s most obvious what it’s doing. <ω< < 1433692565 821559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh nice, ghc's "show" for Integer is still using my code, virtually unmodified since 2006 :) < 1433692660 845593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1433692669 361025 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I never followed up on the idea of also improving the generic showIntAtBase) < 1433692677 567371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i even alive in 2006? < 1433692682 788348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a long time ago < 1433692723 343293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: depends on whether you believe in last tuesdayism hth < 1433692748 346821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i invented it hth < 1433692768 918587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do have you down as probably older than 9. most of the time. < 1433692850 564213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1433692855 595488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else do you have me down as < 1433692919 475551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee, jewish, vegetarian, bit on the nosy side... < 1433692936 388041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and haskeller of course. < 1433692943 163828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1433692947 741234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and berkeleyish < 1433692961 548620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens adept < 1433692967 855076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good one < 1433693050 41475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and finnishish < 1433693159 812576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a functor pro < 1433693170 370319 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433693170 545946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somewhat have to wonder how the first one came about < 1433693188 901172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which one? < 1433693232 596465 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ({-Unit-}) < 1433693240 156505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1433693242 355721 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433693270 741028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1433693280 447162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lessee was an interjection hth < 1433693305 697897 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433693310 686268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understood, but that would be a good pun < 1433693363 863499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1433693375 627281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't actually know it had a different meaning until now < 1433693914 890795 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw JOIN :#esoteric < 1433693994 528369 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :having only some patterns implemented causes a weird appearance < 1433694379 707855 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like some parts of the screen are silky smooth, while others are pixelated < 1433694423 406857 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433694513 417793 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433694590 640634 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433694662 513493 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does gyroscopic precession work the way it does? < 1433694689 464411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if some of the more inane wisdoms are symbolic links that got broken < 1433694695 581501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433694696 319325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocean/The pacific ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The atlantic ocean is less cool than its giant underwater moutain range. The arctic ocean is cold. The indian ocean is full of typhoons and non-eurocentric shipping. < 1433694716 808937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because http://www.xkcd.com/332/ < 1433694724 758682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/moutain/mountain/' wisdom/ocean < 1433694728 889167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433694763 827449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type l | while read f; do echo -n "$(basename "$f")/"; readlink "$f"; done < 1433694764 949826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals/real \ perpetuum mobile/perpetual motion machine \ the torus/torus \ koen_/koen \ issue/.doorstop \ canary/../canary < 1433694806 734966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, right < 1433694864 958165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn ocean/The Pacific Ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The Atlantic Ocean is less cool than its giant underwater mountain range. The Arctic Ocean is cold. The Indian Ocean is full of typhoons and non-Eurocentric shipping. < 1433694866 948022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «ocean» < 1433694881 14768 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, came across it again when reading about helicopters. I guess the issue is that unlike the other basic laws of newtonian motion, it makes no intuitive sense < 1433694888 223208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1433694888 949802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1433695043 422009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's exactly the opposite of what i wondered. i was wondering if there were wisdoms that *used* to be symbolic links, but due to repository/whatever interaction got changed into ordinary files with the destination as plain text. < 1433695062 648990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433695074 476508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the destination be plain text? < 1433695106 4133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because iirc that's what it looks like if you manage to directly cat a symbolic link < 1433695121 4256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1433695138 58608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what symbolic links look like in the repository browser < 1433695194 655765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i assume that's what the repository thinks they are, and it's only plain luck if it doesn't get munged to that in accidental `reverts and the like. < 1433695253 810630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my summary is: i don't trust symbolic links to survive `revert wars. < 1433695254 387273 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hg? < 1433695273 933754 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if it is hg, hg fully supports symlinks afaik < 1433695282 702664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok let's hope so. < 1433695420 573924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/torus; echo test >wisdom/torus < 1433695422 173293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433695425 30459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433695425 785341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433695430 572689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the torus < 1433695431 303058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433695434 868393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1433695444 318126 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-99-33.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433695448 920643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1433695453 266586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433695454 593795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1433695463 344818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you seem to be right < 1433695494 46230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now wondering about `undo < 1433695503 911707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/torus; echo test >wisdom/torus < 1433695505 454890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433695508 833416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433695509 545950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433695517 304012 :password2!~password@197.77.23.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433695537 905336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 5464 < 1433695570 703527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo seems to be rather slow at this < 1433695582 501076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/torus < 1433695597 620983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433695598 444154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1433695604 225578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433695634 294319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i shall stop worrying about HackEgo symbolic links until further notice tdh < 1433695686 263866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/torus < 1433695688 852857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 61 Jun 7 16:47 wisdom/torus < 1433695693 628252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or not. < 1433695737 375069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORRY REINSTATED < 1433695755 649440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/torus; ln -s 'the torus' wisdom/torus < 1433695757 476575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433695760 753213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/torus < 1433695762 365544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Jun 7 16:50 wisdom/torus -> the torus < 1433695830 279830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f | while read f; do [ -f "$f" ] || continue; a="$(cat "$f")"; [ -f "wisdom/$a" ] && echo "${f#wisdom/}/$a"; done < 1433695833 111744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok `revert and `undo *do* break symbolic links - but the contents seem to become the target contents, not the file name. < 1433695856 593740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit//quit \ solain/ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1433695913 878499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor `revert (and `undo) don't reinstate symbolic links properly ;_; < 1433695914 54225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433695932 729596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quit < 1433695933 538737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/quit < 1433695935 742453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solain < 1433695936 485567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1433695940 55966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1433695940 824641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Your dongers. Raise them. ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1433695972 928056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those seem p. inane but it looks like they're meant to be that way < 1433696054 365410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1433696083 342381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the breakage i saw will show up as two wisdoms being identical. < 1433696180 777516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l *wolfram* < 1433696181 482696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access *wolfram*: No such file or directory < 1433696186 808855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*wolfram* < 1433696187 544932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/stephen wolfram \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/wolfram < 1433696210 426317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff wisdom/*wolfram* < 1433696211 168414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433696221 826689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those seem like pretty good candidates < 1433696235 892960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but i already wrote that loop hth < 1433696268 456368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait what loop < 1433696287 684432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that loops for symlinks in your previous failure mode < 1433696322 87329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um the previous that i don't believe in any longer? < 1433696357 295527 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1433696388 367886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well gotta go < 1433696392 172711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1433696436 868771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1433696458 462922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm saying, i know that's how the breakage shows up, but i already wrote that loop < 1433696595 462175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433697392 563990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433697473 608350 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433697956 403133 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433698185 572393 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433698497 593864 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433699226 903301 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433699256 289760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1433699262 704330 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1433699955 509304 :hilquias`!~user@186.212.224.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433700173 359900 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433700920 902043 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? å < 1433700921 639034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​å is the same letter as Å, unless you're HackEgo and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1433700984 300988 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmation I missed at least one entry. < 1433701030 362599 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm going to meet you apparently, why did you actually compile wisdom.pdf? "Why not?" is acceptable < 1433701050 107547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Å < 1433701050 922621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1433701145 546374 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I felt like it. nothing like a beautifully typeset document. < 1433701203 908546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm our DnD group note taker and journal maker. It's a tradition to read the day's highlights standing on a chair. < 1433701206 431707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like a #esoteric kind of thing to do < 1433701226 766574 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a makefile! < 1433701292 23148 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should try to have a meeting sometime, with parliamentary procedure < 1433701314 489204 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no one is allowed advance notice of the meeting and everyone is required to use a different set of rules < 1433701335 242139 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I chose the parliament? will a simple town hall do? < 1433701346 7910 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, do you have a github account? < 1433701350 555659 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapa < 1433701359 893257 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but there isn't much of interest on it. why? < 1433701398 424033 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Dheellowiant. I'm updating the Wisdom PDF, and there aren't any descriptions under your section. care to provide some info about yourself twh? < 1433701412 333386 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I'm going to clean up my github by deleting stuff nobody cared about anyway < 1433701414 651561 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: to add you as a collaborator to the repo. < 1433701446 890806 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433701460 74723 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433701473 801913 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: uh sure < 1433701475 877198 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scshunt < 1433701485 268367 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1433701501 790589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks coppro < 1433701502 323986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, coppro. Thoppro. < 1433701541 410986 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433701631 850951 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't know why I made that logo < 1433701653 143184 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get a decent picture of my face to use as a fact in all the places they expect a face < 1433701801 324028 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Deewiant < 1433701802 126244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant is the world's number one expert on Befunge and Funge-98. < 1433701804 489209 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hth < 1433701813 728949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also play Dungeons&Dragons game but not since March 27, I type all the notes on computer < 1433701853 987595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh. I was simply missing it. will be added soon. tdh. < 1433701856 562109 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that may be inaccurate, I think the original quote is 2009-04-02 00:20:06 (ais523) Deewiant here is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing < 1433701881 407685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand by that quote < 1433701885 883224 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... tough call. I think I'll be going with the latter. more #esöteric. < 1433701894 266909 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's ais523approved too! < 1433701903 622260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my original, that is < 1433701916 610891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whoa whoa whoa < 1433701918 951987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I use my universal kaki for everything that expects an avatar. < 1433701921 62914 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whoa? < 1433701959 472865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you don't have any description of me < 1433701966 628965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1433701967 562633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check... < 1433701977 895315 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1433701986 440947 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. oh que oui j'ai une description. mouah ah ah. < 1433702023 320714 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433702041 98653 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1433702041 980791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. < 1433702054 54577 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1433702054 867068 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. < 1433702103 685115 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1433702104 434977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. < 1433702128 354235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metasepia < 1433702129 159611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks. < 1433702154 841772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambdabot < 1433702155 576079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1433702160 197481 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Deewiant is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing. < 1433702162 518650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'deewiant': Deewiant is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing. < 1433702169 485996 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might as well make it canon < 1433702182 122072 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coppro < 1433702182 748205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: coppro: not found < 1433702187 100714 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coppro < 1433702187 843066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro prefers his nickname, Pooppy. < 1433702219 176830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Linux < 1433702219 875138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702221 886163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ø should rot13 to b̷. Or at least something. < 1433702223 106618 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433702251 395417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rot8000.com/index < 1433702258 889523 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot8000. wow. < 1433702261 105778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ROT13 < 1433702261 834065 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROT13? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702265 705127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? AmigaMML < 1433702266 491391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only fools such as zzo38 and so on try to use AmigaMML on a PC. Real Men try to use AmigaMML on a Amiga computer. \ https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Frequently_and_unfrequently_asked_questions < 1433702296 165314 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer fizzie's suggestion. let's see how I can massage the latex to get a stroked b. < 1433702297 935233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1433702298 855711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1433702305 133392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433702305 965716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :log/I think you might mean !logs < 1433702322 119336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you a fool? < 1433702327 641836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1433702354 280299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, relative to wise people I am a bit foolish < 1433702361 410694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my browser thinks that .jpg is a "26300 file" rather than a jpeg < 1433702399 553374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Type: application/binary <-- not helpful < 1433702418 650317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even a real content type? < 1433702422 708221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you override MIME types in your browser? < 1433702432 644436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wish I could. < 1433702434 224531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the one I use, it has that capability) < 1433702456 460230 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :< fizzie> I think ø should rot13 to b̷. Or at least something. – Does that happen if you NFKD it first? < 1433702458 505851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could view things that are sent as application/octet-stream as text/plain or application/pdf or something. < 1433702463 771922 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Melvar < 1433702464 397055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702468 522327 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? idris-bot < 1433702469 213051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702470 784493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Dulnes < 1433702472 282322 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? idris < 1433702473 67276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702473 243872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702484 812839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly is a lot of missing < 1433702494 407146 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://github.com/spasche/openinbrowser if firefox < 1433702500 516718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromium < 1433702516 991457 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Dulnes hi there! we're missing an official description of you for... uh... purposes. care to provide one twh? have a nice diurnal episode. < 1433702517 167432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433702536 632828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? me < 1433702537 270074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702556 964221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Firefox < 1433702557 633485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702570 651218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1433702571 465337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. < 1433702584 772610 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re Dulnes: I put in a placeholder. < 1433702618 135872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe < 1433702618 910010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702621 570975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 2600 < 1433702622 221536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702622 531946 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm adding this new description, but keeping the old one two. < 1433702633 74540 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/two/too/ < 1433702661 737861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1433702664 409492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '2600': 2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1433702682 523210 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it the one that allowed free phone calls? < 1433702716 864858 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1433702735 671272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On some systems it allowed you to set the routing of calls yourself, so you could get free phone calls and other stuff < 1433702757 325722 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1433702757 962453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702764 839621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also the name of a magazine published quarterly < 1433702778 247691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They often have strange stuff in the letters section < 1433702785 338444 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nortti < 1433702786 105821 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti boy. very nortti boy. < 1433702809 327584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? me? < 1433702810 50852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me?? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433702818 544359 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas. this is the Department of Wisdom. you are undescripted. please provide some witty quip or prepare to be granted a Government Approved tagline. your cooperation is appreciated. < 1433702833 505199 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who hath summoned me? < 1433702839 795790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Me is a proud member of the tEaM. < 1433702841 676023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'me': Me is a proud member of the tEaM. < 1433702902 877705 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nortti < 1433702903 580762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :731) <oklopol> nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. \ 732) <elliott> It's... not really links2-optimised. <nortti> elliott: I don't think that any page is links2 optimised \ 1202) <int-e> The people of Procrasti hereby resolve to lodge a formal complaint wit < 1433702913 632082 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1202 < 1433702914 766992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1202) <int-e> The people of Procrasti hereby resolve to lodge a formal complaint with Taneb and nortti about their ridicule of Procasti's glorious nation... later. < 1433702934 344756 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: thinking about that complaint ;) < 1433702945 70199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: apparently, there's a placeholder under your section for the time being. < 1433702945 654807 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehee < 1433702954 734791 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I an honourary citizen of Procrasti? < 1433702979 925690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :witty quip? hmm, that's difficult < 1433702985 453193 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got around to filling out my citizenship application < 1433702996 366240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I suppose the Procrastination isn't very picky with its citizens. < 1433703043 138262 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mornings < 1433703044 10891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1119) <ion> olsner: For all x, the probability of a monad tutorial existing that explains monads as x approaches one as time goes to infinity. <boily> good monadic morning! <ion> Monads are a bit like mornings. <myname> what < 1433703073 594506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monad < 1433703074 324120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :368) <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. \ 515) <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. \ 516) <elliott> When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. \ 527) <Gregor> You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearrang < 1433703128 519980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let it be stated clearly once and for all that this is not a Haskell channel. ... *runs* < 1433703140 779320 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION summons nortti. < 1433703162 374313 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, you're here too < 1433703163 628966 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433703163 853192 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433703174 917908 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote can't < 1433703175 550110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :85) <Warrigal> Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. \ 135) <fizzie> It's like mathematicians, where the next step up from "trivial" is "open research question". <fizzie> "Nope... No...This problem can't be done AT ALL. This one--maybe, but only with two yaks and a sherpa. ..." \ 143) <fungot> Vorpal: you can't plant spiders < 1433703177 6080 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: let's just pretend that haskell is an esolang then < 1433703190 599966 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask vanila good moment of the day! would you care being shamelessly wisdomified? twh and all that sort of thing. < 1433703190 828833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433703197 784738 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it is. < 1433703205 901228 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Procrasti < 1433703206 755096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1202) <int-e> The people of Procrasti hereby resolve to lodge a formal complaint with Taneb and nortti about their ridicule of Procasti's glorious nation... later. < 1433703212 335405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: right, let's quote https://xkcd.com/1312/ as a proof < 1433703222 474353 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Procrastination < 1433703223 75930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433703227 589834 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1433703232 225135 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? procrastination < 1433703233 21546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procrastination? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433703244 96040 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: no one's gotten around to adding those < 1433703252 122046 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1433703271 387078 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1228 < 1433703272 124473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1228) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1433703284 510881 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 33 < 1433703285 182734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) <mycroftiv> [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective < 1433703292 352502 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot dammit. this one's going to be interesting to include. < 1433703292 657521 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: joku linuxista fnord cd mp3 fnord? < 1433703323 2045 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: そうですね… しょうがないなぁ… < 1433703323 236317 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eg? with code in the backtrace < 1433703337 761311 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eg. < 1433703338 57263 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: most of these comments are ones i'd never consider fnord them by calling their product ice cream. fnord. < 1433703361 237920 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you should see the Source of the Wisdom. quite a few comments in therre. < 1433703507 217600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this last funny cat clip on youtube. < 1433703509 350290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'procrastination': The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this last funny cat clip on youtube. < 1433703714 594234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433703715 415078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup/A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1433704125 878569 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433704372 147522 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask rdococ rdhellococ! I will spontaneously describe you in the next minutes. would you like to have an autodescription instead? < 1433704372 412760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433704410 1593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433704410 733798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic squirrel feeder/Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. < 1433704415 586281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433704416 474476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1433704427 855168 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433704433 390471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good I like that too < 1433704450 4053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1433704450 811944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1433704462 24337 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433704485 944489 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can play with \scalebox: \scalebox{2}[1]{zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious} < 1433704522 416267 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I found an interesting solution already :P < 1433704530 898366 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(will try yours in a few.) < 1433704630 687112 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1433704641 610288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\emph{Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion.} <-- is "eliot" spelled that way intentionally? < 1433704678 842791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of misspelled elliotts around, they're mostly other people < 1433704711 944571 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes. this is entirely volitional. < 1433704785 58868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the identity function < 1433704785 741771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the identity function? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433704800 267711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? identity function < 1433704800 927093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The identity function is a mockingbird. < 1433704847 183345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought M x = x x... Smullyan called I the Idiot bird. < 1433705020 701862 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ DONG ♪ new PDF version! < 1433705141 699476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the identity function isn't a mockingbird < 1433705151 608081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom's just lying, as normal < 1433705196 743272 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone heard of the language Toadskin? I just found a reference to it in speculative grammarian and it appears to consist of the characters :;.><+-vxVX http://specgram.com/CLI.2/04.davis.acquisition.html < 1433705204 71176 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1433705204 837309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1433705206 770489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, there's an interesting typo on wikipédia's article on haiku: “...even to the point of occasionally end-stopping a phrase with a shōjoshi (少女詩 sentence ending particle)...” < 1433705243 513409 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: VX? http://www.reddit.com/r/vxjunkies ? < 1433705304 293101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I've heard of it, but I can't remember details < 1433705321 824840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: looks like the wiki knows: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Toadskin < 1433705324 583819 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a 終助詞 (shūjoshi: end particle), they wrote 少女詩 (shōjoshi: small girl poem). < 1433705349 831039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be brainfuck, but with Forth's : and ; instructions < 1433705354 621007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is at least more interesting than most BF derivatives < 1433705440 23734 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they chose that particular esoteric language to use. < 1433705463 965884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the vxVX aren't part of the language but because you have : and ; you can define them) < 1433705527 770674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do nested : and ; work in Forth? < 1433705547 186160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to do flow control entirely with them by continuously redefining commands later in the program, or is there some sort of entropy issue? < 1433705557 344666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, can you construct an infinite loop with them < 1433705814 954951 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in ordinary forth you can't nest : ; < 1433705816 279185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't nest : and ; in Forth < 1433705834 834139 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it weird that > is pop and < is push? < 1433705841 676332 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the action of : is to allot space for a new word and switch to compilation mode < 1433705851 305265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's disappointing :-( < 1433705857 940985 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how " can't be nested in bash < 1433705871 508440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When executing, the : reads another word and begins a new definition and then enter compile mode, and then the ; compiles EXIT and then goes back to execute mode < 1433705905 442618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" can be nested in INTERCAL :-P < 1433705923 526940 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL can do everything. < 1433705926 122468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does Forth do if it sees an ; while in execute mode? < 1433705936 515944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it depend on the implementation < 1433705939 818959 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: Khelloen__! long time no see! < 1433705941 122036 :augur!~augur@2602:306:37f6:6af0:c537:a1f7:b564:95dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1433705947 788885 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433705953 755575 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bhelloily < 1433705958 794612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some implementations might treat it as an error like because it is not defined < 1433705977 372646 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest my irc client sucks so most of the times I'm too lazy to go on irc < 1433706008 960213 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then get a better client < 1433706050 24063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't like the other IRC client either that is why I wrote my own one (which still isn't quite best though) < 1433706245 619140 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( There are IRC clients other than irssi? Blasphemy! ) < 1433706276 94792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think there is many different kinds < 1433706276 633208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: dinner < 1433706714 778357 :augur!~augur@2602:306:37f6:6af0:c537:a1f7:b564:95dc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433707348 65764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433707360 284260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1433707366 35443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I use Konversation; and IIRC, zzo38 uses a client that's basically the raw IRC protocol but with syntax highlighting < 1433707366 227219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433707366 919187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Å/Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1433707375 462087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe some way to type "PRIVMSG #esoteric :" quickly? < 1433707381 114168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433707381 823677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eurovision/Eurovision is the European way of looking at the world. For some reason it involves a lot of cheesy singing. < 1433707389 359899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is that true? < 1433707445 391083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fwiw, I have used xchat, but it didn't scale to more than 6 or 7 channels for me... < 1433707469 964259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is what true? < 1433707478 535006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You use the IRC client ais523 describes? < 1433707489 553371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mostly. < 1433707496 101058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know the details < 1433707544 87529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the beginning of a line if a space-bar is pushed it automatically type "PRIVMSG #esoteric :" or whatever the current channel happens to be set to (if there is no current channel, it just beeps and won't actually type a space.) < 1433707565 971538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that makes sense < 1433707573 765156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few other features too though, such as macros, and masking passwords < 1433707925 761986 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1433708212 65236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (join . join, join . fmap join) < 1433708214 970575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad m, Monad m1) => (m (m (m a)) -> m a, m1 (m1 (m1 a1)) -> m1 a1) < 1433708668 168991 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt JOIN :#esoteric < 1433708705 607390 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say "whale oil beef hooked" really fast it sounds like "well ill be fucked" in an irish accent < 1433708713 564233 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun facts < 1433708864 502772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxx... < 1433708889 978664 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try it out int-e < 1433709068 543990 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world... < 1433709098 571076 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: oops I did it again! < 1433709133 713402 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: No, what I meant is that the very same idea underlies many occurrences of "xxx" < 1433709157 841508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by the way, I read the C++ union rules (most of it, anyway), and it's better than I thought < 1433709170 217289 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxx is liquer right? < 1433709178 268656 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Firefox's new "Leseansicht"? < 1433709181 170454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as easy as I thought to accidentally write code that silently compiles but doesn't work than I thought < 1433709195 267466 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :lenshars? < 1433709212 743178 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reader view" < 1433709219 431103 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org is blank in reader view < 1433709220 733099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lese" = reading, "sicht" = sight, "an" is a connective < 1433709250 234946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"reader mode"? < 1433709253 960208 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433709257 109017 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433709259 941783 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does something < 1433709260 603748 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok It needs javascript < 1433709285 648963 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything needs javascript mroman_ hth < 1433709334 309004 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because life gave someone Lemons isn't a good enough justification to make JavaScript out of it < 1433709350 445440 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used lime < 1433709393 374836 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: did you know that Firfox' UI is written in Javascript and XML files (XUL)? < 1433709404 824988 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? firfox < 1433709405 595524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firfox? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433709413 652091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity. < 1433709495 548060 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1433709499 514652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea isn't too bad < 1433709503 573509 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the JavaScript part < 1433709558 853280 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemy < 1433709582 795314 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the worlds greatest blasphemist. < 1433709623 632031 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that just by listening on the radio to the past doing the Urbi et Orbi you will be forgiven all your sins? < 1433709627 599602 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :heresy? < 1433709628 95235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, the feature is called "reader view". < 1433709646 812971 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1433709663 382470 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is Nihilumbra your evil twin? < 1433709663 663870 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and you don't even have to aware that it was < 1433709667 673964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pope < 1433709674 56671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a heretic too < 1433709681 658299 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you hear about the new MP2 low%? < 1433709700 339856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please clarify < 1433709700 551041 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: got it. < 1433709704 950930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not technically an improvement in terms of %, but a much, much easier way to get MBI was found < 1433709706 14233 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please clarify *to us* < 1433709706 756574 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i suspend to disk most of the commercial apps i work on a brainfuck interpreter fails to be a pointer to that url. i'll bookmark it. traffic caps are on at this hour, and they have so much mass that you throw off earth's orbit and we go flying into the sun. < 1433709708 203357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, I do not agree much of the stuff of beliefs of Roman Catholics. < 1433709722 401524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes < 1433709727 474222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433709743 302064 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard being an Atheist without being a Blasphemist as well < 1433709744 721635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard about someome doing it speedrun-style < 1433709747 692763 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would technically be possible. < 1433709750 629723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the low%, that is < 1433709763 535958 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because of hte improvement in the route, it became runnable as a speedrun < 1433709765 313159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. single segment and aiming to go quickly < 1433709771 972083 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :miles did a hard mode run of it < 1433709776 342834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: To me it doesn't seem that someone who is atheist is necessarily blasphemy too < 1433709786 227752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and someone did it yesterday on normal as part of a marathon < 1433709816 375956 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you know how you need to transition rooms when traveling OoB in the Prime games? < 1433709826 160540 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433709838 819688 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You're only a blasphemist if you ridicule religious things. < 1433709844 45870 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit a cannon in the inactive room, it will get very confused and leave you with MBI < 1433709867 44555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the old or new method? < 1433709869 626417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :new < 1433709874 705038 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :old method relied on infinite speed < 1433709887 284319 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a cannon in sanctuary that Miles figured out how to hit, and this skips a lot of the backtracking, plus the light show < 1433709903 457750 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ridicule homeopathy < 1433709908 712134 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other things < 1433709934 349729 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I treat homeopathy as some sort of religious believe. < 1433709981 851075 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb < 1433709991 781381 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other improvement miles did compared to the previous 6% I saw is that he got ballsy with Quadraxis skip and unmorphed to cut across, rather than going the long way around < 1433709992 80238 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you take some homeopathic remedy and it didn't work it's your fault < 1433710003 349585 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because logically if you don't believe in it HOW could it work. < 1433710011 962651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not consider myself as an atheist though < 1433710023 764158 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider myself as a Blasphemist. < 1433710028 555319 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a James Randi fan. < 1433710051 820226 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1433710052 584119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433710070 149012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, placebo effects can work even if you do not believe in it. < 1433710073 889978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, for a moment there I thought I was un the wrong channel... < 1433710075 124338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1433710075 952345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .>/gro.sgnalose//:ptth< :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1433710082 462923 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1433710082 645017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it works backward too! < 1433710097 898905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to work it sideways. < 1433710116 678440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's funny how it swaps ( and ) but not < and >. < 1433710124 79695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are a huge variety of welcome messages in HackEgo < 1433710133 855606 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hellcome < 1433710134 463273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hellcome: not found < 1433710137 395278 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1433710153 764261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, idea: instead of `relcome being `relcome, you should have to write `welcome in rainbow colours < 1433710162 200210 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1433710188 635324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does science count as a religion? < 1433710191 639423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also this isn't speedrunning related, but you'll find it amusing. While in Japan I picked up Japanese copies of MegaMan Battle Network 6. I can't read Japanese, but I want to enjoy the postgame. < 1433710196 698689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1433710200 127119 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/tr.*/tr \(\)\<\> \)\(\>\</' bin/emoclew < 1433710203 845834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433710207 792686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 6 is one of the better games in that series < 1433710220 631868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, there are some problems with how science is done so might be consider like religion, but actually it isn't a religion, especially when done properly. < 1433710222 971100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1433710226 777557 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes. I would say 3 > 2 > 6 < 1433710231 571858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, the issue with the MMBN series is that it has excellent battle mechanics and doesn't really know what to do with the best of the ame) < 1433710233 342483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't like daylight saving time, but that doesn't seem to really have much to do with religion. < 1433710235 746245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the rest of the game < 1433710244 900339 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how I feel about 1 vs. 5, 4 is clearly at the bottom < 1433710245 421553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/tr.*/tr \\\(\\\)\\\<\\\> \\\)\\\(\\\>\\\</' bin/emoclew < 1433710245 606168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you know, I think I'll agree with that < 1433710247 43117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433710249 176506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both parts < 1433710252 639676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you update your thesis? < 1433710255 500762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say "not sure about 1 vs 5 but 4 is the worst" < 1433710259 482585 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1433710260 249699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .</gro.sgnalose//:ptth> :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1433710262 479480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless I would want to know statistics about percentages of people of different kind of religion that like and don't like daylight saving time too < 1433710263 225268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the deadline for the updates is early july < 1433710266 180387 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My religion is pretty much: "Accepting that not ever question can be answered or has yet a known answer but you need to search for answers, extend your answers, refine and correct your answers and never stop doing that" < 1433710270 328057 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 is actually the only one I haven't beaten < 1433710292 468612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently reading the lists of corrections I have to make < 1433710300 669412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've 100%ed only 2 and 3. Haven't done 4 because ugh, 5 because I haven't beaten it, and 6 because it's English < 1433710302 904435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I agree with that, but do not consider it as religion. < 1433710303 293353 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm agnostic < 1433710314 492919 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwaoydpnchcoxjkd JOIN :#esoteric < 1433710319 830649 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now that I have Japanese copies I can actually postgame 6 < 1433710322 771021 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¡ < 1433710325 367292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nihilistic? < 1433710350 547568 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Tanebventionist. < 1433710354 969887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nevertheless, it is a thing that can involve religion, science, and philosophy.) < 1433710356 760176 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know about the English postgame in 6, right? < 1433710367 944036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, I don't < 1433710369 801455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Science isn't perfect, but it it s the best we have. Mathematics is perfect, though.) < 1433710385 857526 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha int-e < 1433710400 964385 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The post-game for 6 got cut significantly in the English version, down to a single area from I think 4 or 5. The reason is hilarious: with the English text, the game wouldn't fit on the cartridge < 1433710402 685313 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no my name is just there < 1433710419 508016 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433710422 52783 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not because nihil means nothing and umbra is a shadow an absence of something < 1433710423 477634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider myself as panendeist < 1433710427 198014 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its nothing nothing < 1433710450 131675 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to call myself a pragmatist < 1433710482 691443 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make contact though < 1433710497 286452 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I should check in on the BN1 speedrunners < 1433710497 645607 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read that as Panendienst. < 1433710511 431067 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had made some nontrivial progress in manipulating the GMD RNG < 1433710512 138016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Which means what? < 1433710533 585232 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think they'll never get it to the level of art that is Golden Sun < 1433710539 407678 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll worship a god if there's a immediately visible benefit (financial, social, etc...) < 1433710540 850840 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"breakdown service" < 1433710550 383303 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a service for when you have car troubles. < 1433710555 984886 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pannendienst, if that's supposed to be german? < 1433710564 285057 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1433710575 435888 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Pannendienst < 1433710587 420310 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god exists he's/it/she is probably to busy to give a hoot about earth < 1433710609 980703 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as its a very small percentage of the observable universw < 1433710631 963141 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find a link at the moment, but GS plans out every single "random" encounter for the entire run. < 1433710639 665703 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: but intervention froma god isn't the only effect of worship. < 1433710663 692940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=1857 seems relevant < 1433710677 499639 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1433710681 690579 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :God is testing us < 1433710683 365048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a traditional theist or deist though, therefore I don't take those arguments. Yes, the Earth is a very small and very minor part of the universe, but it is still something. < 1433710685 493059 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :through wars and stuf < 1433710688 526771 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stuff < 1433710690 323220 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are immediately obvious effects as to who likes you, who doesn't < 1433710693 256186 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I die and I see god < 1433710695 658468 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all part of a much bigger picture < 1433710700 73176 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to punch him < 1433710706 311014 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ask why he keeps hiding < 1433710729 303655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles off to find his Dogma DVD... < 1433710729 481954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The biggest Greed is wanting an afterlife. (Well, not quite: the actual biggest greed is wanting an afterlife and taking everything with you) < 1433710775 734831 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest greed is an afterlife with even more stuff than you would perpetually need < 1433710793 533346 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you even want an afterlife < 1433710796 49495 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1433710804 108498 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :living forever has got to be boring < 1433710830 786735 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I would like to meet my ancestors < 1433710837 207722 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it < 1433710848 756655 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :then move on to a rebirth as a snail < 1433710859 327153 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a pretty good life < 1433710862 363782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that people want to see their dead relatives again. < 1433710871 646881 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to have a nice afterlife without alcohol, so my skin remains smooth. < 1433710891 756841 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :your skin ain't smooth? < 1433710896 934952 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :use lotion < 1433710917 715765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People, because they do not understand, call GOD as a "Person" or something like that, or various other things which aren't so sensible. < 1433710956 306564 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a hail storm here < 1433710959 400810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proper words to describe GOD don't exist (and we can't easily make it to exist since nobody would know what it is), therefore we have to use wrong words. < 1433710960 332847 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1433710964 696039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no other choice. < 1433710974 990990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what was your here again? < 1433711003 433729 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winterthur, Switzerland, Europe, Earth, Solar System, MilkyWay, Universe No. 9 < 1433711011 488080 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :god if in correct in it not being a douche canoe would appear to you in the shape you are most comfortable with < 1433711027 701021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I don't know either. I only approximate; all of religious/theology/etc are only being approximate. < 1433711034 606724 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. 9?? < 1433711049 269488 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :were the other 8 better < 1433711054 457752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1433711059 963899 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :God just needed 9 tries to get it right. < 1433711074 823415 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other ones are probably weird. < 1433711079 206381 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or collapsing. < 1433711104 13801 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433711104 189766 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming God created the universe, and not just earth < 1433711114 664093 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the bible *exactly* says about that. < 1433711136 761576 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just created earth as it were < 1433711143 327179 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he isn't all powerful < 1433711146 486186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, also the "heavens". < 1433711152 471276 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hell. < 1433711158 694945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe that kind of old mythology anyways < 1433711167 814947 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets just assume his mother did the universe thing < 1433711173 10844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Created" isn't even the right word, but there aren't any better words! < 1433711179 321010 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god created three dimensions of existence < 1433711192 563828 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth heaven hell < 1433711194 594202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", starts the NIV translation. < 1433711202 127517 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls sir < 1433711207 92976 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1433711216 267716 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :God must have forseen that some people eventually stop believing in him < 1433711224 654994 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would he create humans capable of not believing in him? < 1433711226 846241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universe is made out of mathematics. There may be an infinte number of possible universes. < 1433711237 981017 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't he just create humans in a way so that they ultimatively always will obey him? < 1433711245 14588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People misunderstand the nature of God < 1433711247 655428 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are in theory atm right? < 1433711248 38112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I guess that might've been boring? < 1433711255 876594 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why did he even bother to create humans? < 1433711276 189601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't understand either, but I believe in approximations which I believe to be better approximations than others do) < 1433711276 397546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a much better question :) < 1433711292 910413 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told that god created humans with free will but told them what to do until that whole apple crisis < 1433711295 136831 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why *did* he create earth and life? < 1433711302 937373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore your questions are wrong, in my opinion. < 1433711316 94862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people write brainfuck, others create worlds and life. < 1433711323 85891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That doesn't mean it isn't worth asking; how do you know it is wrong unless you ask?) < 1433711332 342131 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :carpenter turned wizard < 1433711336 870428 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Jesus < 1433711346 901752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we are just an esoteric world among many other more reasonable worlds < 1433711365 389505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we are the brainfuck world of all worlds < 1433711373 751237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No look. God created nothing, but that was a brilliant move of his, because then from that the empty set sprang onto existence on the zeroth day, then the set containing the empty set sprang into existance on the first day, etc, and eventually all sets and all of mathematics and physics come into existance some day. "day" isn't to be taken literally. < 1433711377 141364 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are the malbolge < 1433711388 793366 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I am of the impression that it's currently the other way around. Almost all other universes are brainfuckiest than ours. < 1433711397 792625 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: that'd be interesting! < 1433711406 138201 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1433711434 707974 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :time is an illusion made by man < 1433711446 296096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: In my opinion that seem closer than how the Bible and other stuff says, but still very wrong. < 1433711448 55705 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah god is a weirdo < 1433711469 341791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time is a function of the universe, but actually spacetime is, not time and space. < 1433711473 107650 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bible is a very old book that has been mistranslated multiple tines < 1433711486 158366 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :times* < 1433711502 448883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true, it is an old book. < 1433711509 934168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, she's unconscious in a skee ball player's body in some hospital... < 1433711528 94169 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433711665 653732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in the personal kind of God. < 1433711691 213400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own kind of believe it is very confusing and unusual compared to others < 1433711707 363869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me to make up the Church of Four Concentric Circles < 1433711795 235494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Church of Four Concentric Circles? what's that? and how's that ever going to be projective invariant? < 1433711826 541730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The circles are just a diagram. < 1433712043 240868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proper diagram would be impossible to draw, therefore I have to use the one that I made like this instead. < 1433712332 424544 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like the idea of a religion based on a diagram that's impossible to draw < 1433712336 1717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was also once told that I should earn the Ig Nobel prize for proving it impossible to use complex numbers in accounting.) < 1433712356 59037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, I forget the proof.) < 1433712370 512727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: O, you do? OK, that's good then < 1433712602 388668 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: BLASPHEMY! < 1433712602 733052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such diagram, also, is just the metaphor. < 1433712613 774775 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My universe is burlesque < 1433712634 249916 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is going to be obsoleted by Gulf < 1433712635 994316 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that matter < 1433712660 38712 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm most strongly against religion because of it's risk for violence. < 1433712665 585128 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1433712699 867498 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so hot here that the slightest physical activity makes you sweat like a pig :( < 1433712711 328876 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 degrees room temperature < 1433712714 317010 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay \o/ < 1433712714 687037 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      | < 1433712714 862800 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     /| < 1433712736 412437 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the hail storm will bring some cold < 1433712752 947913 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where cold probably means it's going to cool down to 25 degrees room temperature) < 1433712932 777421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have risk of violence, but so do other things. It is possible to do good things and bad things with various stuff, too. < 1433713061 161883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think that faith and religion are separate, faith (= you believe whatever you want) is fine and dandy, but when you organize it into a religion it starts to get dangerous < 1433713112 663422 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like to take a bath < 1433713132 560597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1433713133 291571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 072100Z 14012KT 30SM FEW150 OVC250 22/06 A2998 RMK AC2CS6 SLP151 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1433713282 873636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Ah, OK, yes some people like to make this distinction. < 1433713350 495916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there actually a three-way distinction rather than two-way? < 1433713389 690672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :three-way between, I think, beliefs, religion, and church. < 1433713403 966696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there is that distinction too < 1433713449 216810 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be getting this wrong though < 1433713453 374663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think too much about it < 1433713469 623574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't much care < 1433713680 612507 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think you could eliminate the church/religion distinction if you wanted < 1433713690 642951 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a church is really just a sect < 1433713699 151564 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can view sects as different but similar religions < 1433713825 669416 :hilquias`!~user@186.212.224.138 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433714015 125552 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1433714099 660757 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433714184 266225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433714192 362870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: bedtime < 1433714272 541994 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1433714272 756010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 072150Z AUTO 26014KT 220V290 9999 -TSRA //////CB FEW038 BKN046 19/14 Q1023 < 1433714722 62727 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433714742 349723 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433714884 202000 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433715685 169984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433716515 470131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i believe Dulnes is part of the collective nick-unstable entity currently mostly known as Nihilumbra (and whatever you do, don't assume they're the same person hth) < 1433716578 421171 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:83a:a001:54a8:a890:7042:fb97 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433716584 509417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not in public, anyway) < 1433716617 628849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dulnes < 1433716618 212891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1223) <Dulnes> Anyways i actually do have food in my house and this time its not coffee based < 1433716678 961617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm also implying e may not get that lambdabot message < 1433716684 289020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a jerk by any other name < 1433716764 897548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: was that necessary < 1433716856 520699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anything necessary? < 1433716931 770743 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433716968 498223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<int-e> Content-Type: application/binary <-- not helpful <-- the hg browser at some point stopped serving files properly for security reasons. < 1433716985 134091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. that link used to work when it was added. < 1433717032 94098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not if you don't care about social consequences < 1433717079 928273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i make fun of them obliquely while they're not in the channel, like the rest of you, rather than directly? < 1433717090 198237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i harass them in /msg, like they do? < 1433717105 260170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that. < 1433717127 633756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is e still doing it < 1433717177 557225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1433717212 54500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately, unless they happen to be doing it from one of the nicks i /ignored < 1433717239 75644 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433717256 632623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1433717403 960232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid webpage uses css rules to crop some of the page unreadable < 1433717416 74202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can fix it on client side, but why do I have to? < 1433717652 282459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates that too < 1433717668 714849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, webpage has en_UK and en_US localization (they might be identical though) < 1433717744 266311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i hate is pages with wide margins designed such that i see _less_ of the text when zooming in, because the margins grow instead of the text... < 1433717795 200615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well the text font grows, but not the textbox) < 1433717799 206816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should just use the default margins, and then the width adjusts with the width of the window. < 1433717837 871611 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they should just use default for most things < 1433717849 159301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well of course there are plenty of sites that do it the reasonable way, i'm talking about broken sites < 1433717900 93141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For everything, as far as I am concerned, you should use the client's default unless you have a good reason not to (such as: if you need different colors of text, set both the foreground and background colors; otherwise don't set any colors) < 1433717935 854226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's this stupid newspaper comic page that uses my zoom level to decide that i need to be redirected to their mobile site - so to visit it, i to first turn off my zoom and then rezoom after the page has loaded. < 1433717952 432650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i have to < 1433718065 778163 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The weight limit does not apply to electric wheelchairs, musical instruments or animals in the cargo hold." -- oh! do they allow elephants? dragons? < 1433718065 954010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they'd somehow managed to made the web standards such that sites _couldn't_ make assumptions about the client devices < 1433718079 510826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, they have a size limit too < 1433718117 593807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a child elephant might fit, but a dragon definitely not < 1433718160 139328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've got a dragon, why are you taking a plane tmns < 1433718191 725144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: flying might take too much time or energy otherwise. a plane is faster. < 1433718195 313616 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-74-96-73-147.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433718198 544422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for long distances. < 1433718207 747694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you probably don't need it if you have a dragon < 1433718209 273259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though... < 1433718215 113940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not a tame dragon, but a subdued one < 1433718225 70336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe you can't direct the dragon to fly < 1433718239 654678 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many elephants in a dragon? < 1433718239 830560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher menus work better it doesn't need to make any assumptions about the client other than it can display the menu and text files; the client decides what way need to display work best for the device. < 1433718254 383734 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many gophers in an elephant? < 1433718300 465549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: size or weight? < 1433718353 978789 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a gopher's density is approximatively the same enough to that of an elephant to be irrelevant. < 1433718368 621698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in size, a dragon (gigantic) is two size categories over an elephant (large), so dragon is 4 times as large in linear size, 64 times as large in volume, but that's a very inaccurate approximation < 1433718394 560259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in weight, the difference is only like a factor of 2 < 1433718502 478855 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd've guessed the elephant-to-dragon ratio to be higher, but what do I know, I've never seen neither of them. < 1433718517 771713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack weights are unrealistic < 1433718519 598770 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs pretzels < 1433718530 612300 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433718538 904562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're more about how difficult the item is to carry than about how much it weighs < 1433718562 341381 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dragons are absolutely impossible to carry, so it doesn't matter much how much they weigh < 1433718574 704637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have a little significance, but rarely comes up < 1433718596 415083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is it a pretzing issue? < 1433718821 147098 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433718956 609383 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxzalhoskstgioyt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433719150 48074 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles oerjan < 1433719172 249640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1433719175 706763 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a sudden urge. also bought a milk carton for my cereals. < 1433719182 241217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you sure you don't need some delicious rice < 1433719197 274234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was only a light mapole. < 1433719217 500643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that similar to a lightsabre? < 1433719222 144839 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ha ha ^^ sorry, no. I already packed tonight's leftovers for tomorrow. < 1433719276 362422 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: think of a mapole as a prototypesaber hth < 1433719282 624358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433719293 485305 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just how much did you make? < 1433719331 715281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe three or four times as much as necessary < 1433719456 119908 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what'd'you have for supper/breakfast/whatever? < 1433719519 139392 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1433719523 954088 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had greek supper < 1433719533 719723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham salad (not made by me) < 1433719562 893815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. souvlakis, gyros, tzatziki, fternooners and other Greek classics? < 1433719573 511167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ham salad like chicken salad s/chicken/ham/ or is it like regular salad with ham on? < 1433719584 14889 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken salad? < 1433719599 778200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love souvlaki, but no. commodity chain greek. salad and chicken and pasta salad. < 1433719611 615160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the former, i think? what's the difference anyway... < 1433719618 450006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what sorts of things do you make < 1433719626 534121 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mainly that the latter has lettuce < 1433719632 965312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dressing < 1433719644 692784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sliced bread and pizza < 1433719649 576119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with salad and lettuce? < 1433719659 77273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently some people think that a salad needs to have lettuce < 1433719673 813351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh. the latter, then. it's a bit confusing because no:salat means _both_ salad and lettuce. < 1433719675 794321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many cases and many salads, lettuce is not a big improvement < 1433719690 655955 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce is depressing. especially iceberg. bleh. < 1433719693 788573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, they specifically says “live animals (dogs and cats only)” in the rules < 1433719693 964147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: regular salad has leafy greens. if it has no leafy greens, it is not regular < 1433719698 785659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no elephant < 1433719703 933755 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even baby < 1433719719 2156 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote topologically < 1433719719 665086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :396) <oklofok> god created the natural numbers, the rationals were done by man and the work was finally completed (topologically) by satan himself \ 1135) <boily> topologically speaking, dogs and cats are the same animals. < 1433719732 22666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had regular salad without lettuce today. < 1433719737 2878 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: re quote 1135: elephants can be included hth < 1433719750 620575 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what's your stance about spinach? < 1433719751 993181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-regular salads include: potato salad, cole slaw, chicken salad, tuna salad, and (the anglo-american version of) ham salad < 1433719760 498845 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a wonderful thing. < 1433719767 266304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: non-regular in what sense? < 1433719768 359548 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yé :D < 1433719783 196687 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you should try making palak paneer. it's easy and delicious. < 1433719784 21987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless it is shredded and boiled. then yecch. fresh only plox.) < 1433719796 555798 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around here, the word "salad" by itself pretty much always means a salad with lettuce or spinach, but there are also phrases such as "egg salad", "pasta salad", "tuna salad", "Jello salad", and so forth referring to things without either. < 1433719798 544313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the same place also has chicken salad, which also has lettuce hth < 1433719805 393106 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: boiled is bad. blanched good. < 1433719813 214291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a salad with, say, tomatoes and cucumbers and onions and mint and that sort of thing? < 1433719817 714727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that regular? No lettuce. < 1433719826 979951 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :egg salad and pasta salad are alsxo good examples of non-regular salad < 1433719845 483988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_salad < 1433719850 327342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly starts thinking the word "salad" looks fake < 1433719854 74583 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to refer to everything as a type of "salad" from now on. < 1433719864 702835 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm suddenly thinking the word "salad" looks Arabic. < 1433719877 906628 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :al-salād or something? < 1433719882 983986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1433719885 176717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :polk salad annie < 1433719885 669958 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just like that. < 1433719885 892141 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's pretty Latin. < 1433719898 737383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be thinking of "salat" hth < 1433719902 525464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for cabin (not cargo hold) transfer, “Up to three small puppies or very small kittens may be booked as one animal and must be transported in the same container in the cabin.” < 1433719912 349209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't even topologically equivalent < 1433719930 188713 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chili is "bean salad". Cookies are "chocolate salad". Pizza is "pepperoni salad". < 1433719933 589154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the container is topologically equivalent to the container that would carry one animal < 1433719964 301064 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure the topology of a physical object is really well-defined. < 1433719964 516130 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no. just no. salad must contain a variety of ingredients (at least one a vegetable) tossed together in a bowl < 1433719979 832777 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Jello salad doesn't contain any vegetables. < 1433719984 43036 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like vegetarian chili. beans, tomatoes, onions, bell peppers, tofu, olives... < 1433719994 295282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: itym aspic hth. < 1433719999 6625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bell peppers are the scow of vegetables. < 1433720004 374543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: true. s/vegetable/fresh plant matter/ < 1433720004 574820 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a scow? < 1433720008 703532 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1433720009 396114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433720022 150467 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's "a wide-beamed sailing dinghy". < 1433720023 985303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ew < 1433720026 921456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the scow of X" usually means something like the worst specimen of X. < 1433720031 447341 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: peppers of all varieties and cultivars are the tits. you can do everything with them! < 1433720040 389027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily++ < 1433720044 265540 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advise against using them on tits. < 1433720048 784431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<quintopia> oerjan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_salad <-- wtf is that < 1433720058 30583 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like red peppers. I don't understand the purpose of green peppers. < 1433720063 176853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what comes to mind first when you say ham salad < 1433720082 48476 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you don't like tofu and olives? < 1433720122 778535 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "mayonnaise-bound meat salads" < 1433720125 843706 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: A green bell pepper, though not at all spicy, still has quite a distinct flavor. < 1433720138 245343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, not really. < 1433720189 532011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_cream ? < 1433720192 451400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this about? < 1433720193 248822 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: green peppers are cheaper than other colours in groceries here. that's one of their purposes. < 1433720208 169990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, to make proper all dressed pizza, you need the green ones.) < 1433720215 293784 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-74-96-73-147.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1433720228 277872 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite reasonable to use in and of itself, though obviously no substitute for other varieties. < 1433720229 878735 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you need the full stoplight for a proper all-dressed pizza < 1433720232 825984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of emulsions, I made mayonnaise the other day. < 1433720235 42318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was great. < 1433720269 224647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> Bell peppers are the scow of vegetables. <-- blasphemy! < 1433720292 432833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: keep up here. < 1433720297 355833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, there are many foods that I dislike to lesser or greater extents. < 1433720305 430723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But bell peppers are not negotiable. They ruin everything. < 1433720319 202692 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft. < 1433720329 60663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a terrible taste, their texture uncooked makes me want to vomit, their texture cooked is just disgusting. < 1433720330 134916 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they have flavor! < 1433720333 904623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing good about them. < 1433720350 333685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can ruin any dish. Even if you take them out, their flavor sticks around to ruin it. < 1433720351 773536 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO TEAM BELL PEPPERS! *pom poms* < 1433720364 649760 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one good thing about them is that if we have a pizza party and shachaf attends, they can make it so there is more pizza for the rest of us < 1433720383 506134 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this is something like cilantro or something. < 1433720400 241217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Usually people do that by putting animals on the pizza. < 1433720405 521789 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sounds like it. people I know who dislike bell peppers really dislike them. < 1433720406 377718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out tonight my sister thinks basil ruins pasta salad < 1433720417 115597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: WHAT? < 1433720419 600987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh okay. that'd work too. < 1433720423 606011 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm, I want a place to paste a table. < 1433720427 284761 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inb4 "in the dining room") < 1433720440 374561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's strange < 1433720445 529150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you might get paste all over the china cabinet < 1433720452 258824 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend pasting in the garage or shop < 1433720459 578345 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then carrying the table back to the dining room < 1433720505 118165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<quintopia> oerjan: what comes to mind first when you say ham salad <-- i suppose my brain has different slots for "salad as whole meal" and "salad as condiment". in any case, not that thing on wikipedia's picture. if it were a condiment salad, i'd expect still visible strips of ham in it. < 1433720506 612855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i know. basil is wonderful. < 1433720531 509434 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it can be made that way. there is some variety. < 1433720561 378784 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they are small enough to be chewy instead of ...stringy? < 1433720608 968247 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who wants to play some don't starve together? < 1433720635 618592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it and then I died. < 1433720638 443859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I stopped. < 1433720645 856774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was eaten by a grue. < 1433720657 829140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :she has a name oyu know < 1433720674 792543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, because I stopped playing the game a few seconds before being eaten. < 1433720686 991248 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job with the fire making < 1433720695 886758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I still have a save file where it's dark and the screen has jagged lined around the edges and I'm about to die. < 1433720699 406381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least I didn't starve. < 1433720705 446536 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :her name is Charlie < 1433720707 625320 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433720712 358396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dont-starve-game.wikia.com/wiki/Charlie < 1433720754 147467 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I remember Don't Starve. < 1433720760 209633 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I still have a way to access it. < 1433720768 116455 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1433721468 568191 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433721595 855686 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433721699 490422 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay quickcheck. < 1433722747 137362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Caesar salad without dressing on, at some places; at other places the salad isn't as good. < 1433722862 373542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a caesar salad if it has no dressing. < 1433722876 998625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me it is < 1433722895 982139 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like it's not a caesar salad without dried salted anchovy < 1433722916 307000 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can call it "Caesar" salad. a Caesomorph. < 1433722920 162919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i don't eat fish < 1433722947 442705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put lettuce, cheese, crouton, that's good enough < 1433722963 238000 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not judging shachaf. there's nothing wrong with a "Caesar salad". it's just not as good as it could be. < 1433723000 100285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever the way the wind blows, / Whichever the way the world goes, / Is perfectly all right with me! < 1433723401 566697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43183&oldid=43178 5* 03173.25.21.218 5* (+0) 10fixed a small error < 1433723558 924826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<zzo38> "Created" isn't even the right word, but there aren't any better words! <-- istr hebrew has a special word for "create" that _only_ applies to God hth < 1433723597 982374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it does? I don't know Hebrew language much < 1433723604 718438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in hebrew, it's by definition the right word, but it might not be entirely clear what it means. < 1433723656 849655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see that. < 1433723668 574626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know hebrew much either but i've seen it discussed somewhere. < 1433723873 67491 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think I've ever had the real deal. is it good? is it worth it? < 1433723906 467530 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whichever your answer, probably going to try it out of sheer curiosity.) < 1433724913 695243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I try to open a .XI file with multiple samples in OpenMPT, it automatically discards the samples that aren't used in the keymap. How to fix this? < 1433727473 978080 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433728565 553497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43184&oldid=43115 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+142) 10/* Underload to Gibberish */ new section < 1433728771 505202 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43185&oldid=43184 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+84) 10/* Underload to Gibberish */ < 1433728812 447757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1433728918 846879 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: JAVANESE CHICKEN < 1433728957 173544 :Maria!~canaima@190.142.155.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433729066 867159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43186&oldid=43185 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+36) 10/* Underload to Gibberish */ < 1433729270 818200 :Maria!~canaima@190.142.155.224 PART :#esoteric < 1433730058 435642 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433730080 28298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My custom scaler is pretty much done now < 1433730304 892135 :KnightArm0!~irc@200.109.211.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433730923 176442 :KnightArm0!~irc@200.109.211.60 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433731078 268626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that custom scaler? < 1433731124 529243 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433731343 308401 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A customized sclaing alcorithm for emulated games < 1433731354 204612 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm modding it into mednafen < 1433732675 175669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I got vector synthesis to work properly in AmigaMML and XISYNTH. < 1433732967 146320 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433733726 46205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not quite! < 1433733912 874828 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433733963 680396 :gde33!~gde33@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733965 40929 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733965 216527 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733965 216610 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733965 216636 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733971 899664 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433733974 369505 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733975 720532 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1433733982 108402 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433733983 456318 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433733990 144205 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433733990 320020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433734000 550744 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1433734024 3895 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433734178 79546 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433734908 166005 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1433735142 585914 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433735142 788100 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433735426 165045 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433735439 679331 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PART :#esoteric < 1433736059 761384 :adu_!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433736181 264877 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433736251 803211 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433736313 880252 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433736506 777431 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433736529 251580 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433737499 367343 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA I can't get diagonals to work properly! < 1433737644 597422 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433737659 68643 :password2!~password@197.77.29.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433737697 699572 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/5xgtpmiqh/ < 1433737831 606279 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ screenshot using my scaler, and the palette 77ccff 77cc00 007700 000000 ffcccc cccc00 990000 111100 < 1433737928 21016 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mostly looks ok, but I csn't figure out a good rule to make X look right < 1433737938 996691 :password2!~password@197.77.29.228 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433738335 954006 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433738399 734584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody have an idea how to detect a patern like that? < 1433738494 870423 :password2!~password@197.77.14.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433739193 640909 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs JOIN :#esoteric < 1433739236 321995 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet Jesus < 1433739243 481847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1433739514 187383 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433739514 639360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have anything to add here? https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/XM_optimizations < 1433739519 562673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or anything to remove?) < 1433739608 970060 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1433739634 496401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it explaining it in there? < 1433739649 463056 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Please don't assume I ever actually leave the channel anything that follows a name mention is logged down for 2 hours afterwarsa < 1433739657 435503 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :wards* < 1433739667 249363 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look zzo38 < 1433739728 434642 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :File size reduction < 1433739731 863775 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :lossless < 1433739732 100168 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_scaling#2%C3%97SaI look interesting < 1433739743 841001 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks nice < 1433740244 140316 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :file reduction without dataloss zzo38 ? < 1433740336 591118 :Decim!~hhs@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433740496 942684 :Decim!~hhs@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah I forgot irc still worked it was having bugs < 1433740523 187204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: Yes, to reduce a XM file size while the music will still be same way. < 1433740562 233168 :Decim!~hhs@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I was because I couldn't log because I forgot my password < 1433740568 352000 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh neat < 1433740601 105082 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does sound useful because dataloss is very annoying at times < 1433740679 578620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you work with .XM musics at all? < 1433740688 275489 :Decim!~hhs@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go to bed < 1433740697 63856 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1433740712 37401 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1433740729 213181 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain what it is and maybe I will < 1433740787 261816 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone seen ^v around < 1433740827 938866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a file format that many game programs that expect music will support (together with .MOD, .IT, and .S3M), first made up in a DOS program called Fasttracker. There are other programs too; the wiki I just linked also has another page to list some other such programs. < 1433740866 118849 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds cool < 1433740885 553573 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall go research it in a bit but I'm making dinner and coffee < 1433740898 399111 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though its 11:38 pm < 1433740903 28034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? AmigaMML < 1433740913 524859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have dinner and coffee at 11:38 PM? < 1433740914 103823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only fools such as zzo38 and so on try to use AmigaMML on a PC. Real Men try to use AmigaMML on a Amiga computer. \ https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Frequently_and_unfrequently_asked_questions < 1433740919 338697 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :habbit < 1433740936 517824 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never actually get around to stuff until around the late hours < 1433741027 470973 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've Become addicted to magic the gathering and I'm worried about this because I usually hate card games < 1433741061 839961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up several Magic: the Gathering cards too and also a few puzzles for Magic: the Gathering. If you have any of your own puzzle I want to see that too. < 1433741146 938835 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a reanimation deck made of eldrazi's and eldrazi lords < 1433741168 556586 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a rainbow deck built around door to nothingness < 1433741184 309938 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean puzzles < 1433741187 189627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no cards or decks < 1433741204 288409 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and now I get all these puns abour magic that have been on the tv < 1433741215 573866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mark Rosewater made up some Magic: the Puzzling some time ago, and now other people made up new ones < 1433741243 769862 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :example < 1433741253 829493 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :example < 1433741255 374706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.1 and also puzzle.2 and puzzle.3 in the same directory. < 1433741263 178258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some puzzles. < 1433741271 270895 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes my msgs don't send on screen < 1433741277 891112 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its ping lag < 1433741290 942477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want solutions, they are called solution.1 and so on; you should first try to figure out by yourself though.) < 1433741355 853630 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at this < 1433741371 158768 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its pretty neat < 1433741375 489893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would buy more Magic: the Puzzling from Wizards of the Coast if they sold more, but they don't < 1433741415 350293 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those a thing < 1433741424 281716 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm relatively new < 1433741435 932602 :Decim!~hhs@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast < 1433741440 872656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know they only made one book, but there were others in issues of the Duelist magazine. < 1433741457 754951 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are weird leaving message < 1433741470 533214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not interested in buying any cards but I would buy more Magic: the Puzzling. < 1433741482 146112 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually want to see the lore books < 1433741502 612968 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I drink this coffee or take a shower < 1433741519 932565 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill do both at the same time! < 1433741599 918839 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :setting up dwarf fortress while my chicken is cooking < 1433741673 166138 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and http://i.imgur.com/1yx1LXR.jpg I wonder if this would work < 1433741711 676001 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol nice < 1433741776 383293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play Pokemon card too < 1433741820 935012 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel dead < 1433741967 385169 :adu_!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu_ < 1433741975 265115 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1433742116 126089 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snusp is crazy < 1433742403 110409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you figure out any of my puzzles? < 1433742409 991114 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433742424 175333 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping lag < 1433742428 924588 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I didn't < 1433742453 3840 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not using solutions because I want to get through this < 1433742462 63999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433742481 544321 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyways food is ready < 1433742490 648551 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm done setting up < 1433742496 580166 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I best go off < 1433742499 75239 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1433742500 577060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433742601 752193 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1433742766 116507 :password2!~password@197.77.14.39 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433745333 294787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mahjong what rules do you prefer dealing with whether or not the dealer can continue after a draw, and about whether or not the dealer is forced to continue? < 1433745380 236504 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer tenpai renchan < 1433745388 668071 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :agari yame for casual play, but not for a tournament setting < 1433745509 438976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to use tenpai renchan for east round, and for south round the dealer continues after a draw regardless of tenpai or no-ten. At least, this is how I always play when I get to make these kind of decisions < 1433745511 551880 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tenpai yame is fine < 1433745517 24184 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433745544 473919 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: interesting. I know of only two locations which use that renchan rule < 1433745579 526444 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433745585 469430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which locations is that? < 1433745623 607408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also seems to be the rule for Washizu mahjong mode on Akagi DS) < 1433745686 38564 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1433745728 588236 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1433745728 763760 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433745951 250266 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Montreal and Waterloo < 1433746102 762830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1433746152 705174 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433746700 31567 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433747584 310102 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433748637 365406 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1433748773 249827 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy < 1433748808 974395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream that my parents won a house in a lottery but it was only half built < 1433748833 232577 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating < 1433748911 346322 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is quite the potential to look at symbolism there < 1433749147 37819 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suggested we sell the house and our current house to buy a slightly better house < 1433749345 995847 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1433749359 958343 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433749387 408032 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1433749387 583766 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433749423 803518 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to linguists, "Santa Claus has all the attributes of a sadist" < 1433749427 11064 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic#Formalizing_natural_languages < 1433749518 499556 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is -w 1 likely to be sufficient for wgeting from some random webserver somewhere < 1433749530 452096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the files are intended to be downloaded, not sure about in bulk like this < 1433749540 169437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put my email in the UA < 1433749665 934337 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds unwise < 1433749683 644907 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're concerned though, use the rate-limiting option < 1433749721 917354 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, at 1 item/second < 1433749774 793559 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't remember if wget's speed limit is done correctly for multiple files < 1433749873 723267 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's faster than it was at 5 seconds/item < 1433749884 985128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And slower than when I didn't have a limit (for a small portion) < 1433749920 144347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The webmaster is likely someone interested in VRML, so it could start a conversation < 1433750051 831953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... seems to be the archives of someone who themselves scraped from a server many, MANY years ago < 1433750155 874454 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgzfdxrrqmleckcs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433752178 27532 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:621:6301:3d87:5fee:38d1:3909 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433756876 168123 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433757653 66001 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433757986 913398 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433758238 193118 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433758909 317477 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433760143 989840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433760668 71219 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to introduce Duads < 1433760670 419105 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Triads < 1433760714 146145 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in J they are called dyadic < 1433760723 573922 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I distinguish between prefix dyadic und infix dyadic < 1433760751 974161 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433761141 852858 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm. < 1433761145 222931 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dyadic 1 and Dyadic 2 < 1433761178 685110 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a duad just a bimonoid in the bicategory of duendofunctors? < 1433761383 423350 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,"1m2+"1M2 < 1433761399 256652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is (min(1,2)+max(1,2)) < 1433761521 32320 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,:,"1m2+"1M2R{,p+p is reduce(range(0,(min(1,2)+max(1,2))), \a b -> a + b) < 1433761773 273631 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to read :) < 1433761792 919073 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly because whether m is an Operator or the Variable m depends on the context < 1433761979 796963 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is there even such a thing? < 1433761983 561048 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bimonoid < 1433761988 105907 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1433761989 216749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bimonoid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433762014 74264 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is fundamentally one of my weaknesses with inventing really esoteric sort of languages: I would never remember a scheme like that, even if I designed it myself. < 1433762023 471920 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I barely remember how my own code works sometimes. < 1433762044 129083 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess sadly bimonoids aren't such a thing, because a·b·c is associative. < 1433762071 420609 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_A_Wellork. remembering what you own code does is one of the Greatest Achievements a programmer can reach. < 1433762087 819723 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_A_Work: I seem to be able to remember such things quite well. < 1433762097 854532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1433762101 574004 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :See Burlesque :) < 1433762108 905294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boihelloy! < 1433762125 863274 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can still golf in it without having to look up the language reference most of the time < 1433762170 949262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1433762171 582680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes, it helps that you invented it so you assigned the primitives such that you already remember their names < 1433762177 607476 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1433762182 425308 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to golf for everyone else < 1433762183 501557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: True. < 1433762184 64702 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, part of it is that over the years I’ve come to realize I have genuine problems with my memory. < 1433762204 957593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with the docs, because they're hard to read < 1433762243 197802 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Defined as \/bxcy\/z[{p^+]e!}m[" <- you're referring to those things? < 1433762289 751636 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have written descriptions for those + giving their definition (because knowing the *exact* definition is very important to abuse sideeffects) < 1433762297 723573 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm lazy < 1433762344 450841 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Defined as x/Shx/\/x/x/\/P[" is my favorite < 1433762356 466568 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because x/ is not a regular swap :D < 1433762371 314580 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this builtin contains so many freaking swaps < 1433762376 196173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\/ is a regular swap though) < 1433762433 327966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_A_Work: My memore is very selective :D < 1433762435 52324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memory < 1433762452 752706 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's quite good at remembering things you wouldn't really need to < 1433762465 428098 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you ask my memory what I did this saturday you're out of luck. < 1433762560 375372 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Burleqsue j2 is the builtin j + integer 1 whereas b2 is the builtin b2 :p < 1433762565 944352 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :* integer 2 < 1433762623 761700 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: when was the last Saturday you had? < 1433762781 160243 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this saturday < 1433762784 681894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was probably working < 1433762791 340788 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as irc logs confirm < 1433762837 239346 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember watching Stargate Atlantis < 1433762841 28386 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some episodes < 1433762866 21989 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least according to netflix I'm at episode 6 now < 1433762904 48306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: not just those definitions, but that it's hard to search for even things that do have good short descriptions < 1433762974 494156 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, a talk on semigroups tomorrow < 1433762978 674175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about semigroups < 1433762979 395229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when I couldn't find the primitve that pops a single element and makes a box from it containing the single element < 1433762980 727776 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall attend! < 1433763012 395746 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HELIOTROPIC CHICKEN < 1433763162 297170 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ops of the Group Dyadic2 can either be infix or prefix < 1433763166 553537 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them at least. < 1433763169 734432 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in all cases < 1433763181 144636 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"m1 2 or "1m2 < 1433763554 595015 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to parse them prefix first, then infix < 1433763568 919943 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1 isn't a legal operator so in that case you can use infix notation < 1433763690 673875 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you mean bx? < 1433763732 145564 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Box|bx|Any a|Put a in an empty block" < 1433763756 134890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes, that < 1433763778 944451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "empty" whereas the box isn't empty, so I didn't find it < 1433763787 856335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should say "singleton" or "length 1" or something < 1433763803 503813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "single element" < 1433763807 962005 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you put a into an empty block the block isn't empty anymore :) < 1433763816 955409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but but < 1433763820 181613 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks are immutable < 1433763831 655468 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean it conses an element before an empty block? < 1433763843 138303 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks aren't immutable < 1433763849 716707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1433763862 376286 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel.. define immutable < 1433763864 189001 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*well < 1433763880 885320 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can delete elements from a block < 1433763921 915052 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you keep multiple references to a block, delete elements from the block through one reference, and see that change when read from another reference? < 1433763933 558482 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :an implementation could do some reference counting and using copy-on-write or perform the operation on the same structure if no other references are found < 1433763940 170746 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, not that. < 1433763946 26050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they're immutable < 1433763953 688835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :modifying them might be an optimization, sure < 1433763962 926252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make them semi-mutable under the hood < 1433763981 462302 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of copying the whole thing when duplicating stuff like that < 1433764004 318306 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how ghc optimizes/handles those things < 1433764079 675614 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I had implemented it in C I would have kept track of references. < 1433764100 959702 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you only need to copy-on-write if there are other references around. Otherwise you don't need to copy it. < 1433764105 383914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1433764120 544535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :std::shared_ptr can do that, it has a member function to tell if there's only one reference < 1433764128 462523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's C++ < 1433764132 658663 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I hate C++ ;P < 1433764133 49829 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically it reads the reference count) < 1433764137 496424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1433764482 442332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The past keeps getting cooler! (And there's more of it every day!)" http://www.xkcd.com/1104/ < 1433764535 66646 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard dinosauriers are actually just large chikens < 1433764537 333330 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chickens < 1433764612 168002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dinosaurs < 1433764612 762419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinosaurs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433764629 744846 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:621:6301:3d87:5fee:38d1:3909 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433764636 69488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add that as wisdom < 1433764674 811756 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Dinosaurs are a diverse group of pre-historic chickens with feathers. < 1433764677 158357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'dinosaur': Dinosaurs are a diverse group of pre-historic chickens with feathers. < 1433764705 497919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Asimov short story confirms this by the way < 1433765560 888288 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-006.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433766117 499126 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chickens lay eggs, Dinosaurs lay eggs therefore Dinosaurs are Chickens. < 1433766150 374481 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chickens move on two legs, Humans move on two legs therefore Humans are also Chickens. < 1433766165 699809 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that we don't have a gyroscopically stable head < 1433766168 598158 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be somewhat cool < 1433766705 506663 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433767664 805669 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1433767749 121547 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433768357 811605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433768885 485480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433768910 902667 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433770254 373315 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433770302 996292 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1433770896 15320 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433771388 806900 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know any hilarious lets play videos I can put on in the background? < 1433771968 862163 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433772078 689881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:fd4e:311e:aa7a:75c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433772176 175018 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433772582 722696 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433772726 90324 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433773147 655700 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433773152 432419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433773457 305497 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433774128 194216 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433774929 287201 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433775043 506672 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433775067 907694 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433775109 954663 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode "LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE ACCENT" < 1433775111 321594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433775201 340036 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433775225 757737 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433775793 922476 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-14-6.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1433775901 760810 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433776198 659500 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433776489 184551 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433776494 596160 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need annotations without postfix ... < 1433776779 432088 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... still do < 1433777104 220742 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433777451 173091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "tar (child): compress: Cannot exec: No such file or directory"? just decompress it with gzip you stupid tar < 1433777462 152031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(luckily an explicit -z helped) < 1433777741 432187 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433777926 655684 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-195.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433778195 927637 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433778481 428873 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always use tar -xvz < 1433778523 673009 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that doesn't work I give up. < 1433778572 198734 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar xzf here, j for .tar.bz2, J for tar.xz < 1433778675 271101 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what using tar xf vs. tar -xf says about a person. probably nothing :) < 1433778707 687287 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433778814 323824 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there's also squeeze < 1433778904 848562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar < 1433778905 448586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' options \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. < 1433778915 26668 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tar < 1433778915 917218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf < 1433778937 706463 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1433778965 592674 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -a makes it guess the compression program < 1433778969 759131 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433779052 680602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: these days, it always guesses the compression program without anything special (though that only works if the input is seekable) < 1433779068 788417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I generally write tar tvf for all kinds of compressed tarballs < 1433779072 380134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works for gzip and bzip2 < 1433779083 437040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here, for a unix-compressed one, it tried to invoke compress < 1433779090 667104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I don't have installed < 1433779106 709534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have just invoked gzip instead, which can read unix-compressed files < 1433779228 753740 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we could have used a gui program, like the noobs we are < 1433779236 893765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that from time to time. < 1433780128 172801 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-14-6.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433780458 712002 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433780884 676790 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433782378 449149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433782786 706667 :password2!~password@197.77.94.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433783300 239649 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433783506 921857 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : .. actually, my brother also keeps saying that it should be `d(dy/dx)/dx', but not `d^2y/dx^2' (in general) < 1433784097 560291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god this is really becoming a saga < 1433784122 276841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did explain the idea behind the d^2y/dx^2 thing last time < 1433784132 852425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more or less completely an abuse of notation < 1433784311 190637 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is all of my thesis < 1433784320 207700 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact the entire field < 1433784748 401668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree that d^2y/dx^2 is wrong. < 1433784870 77801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is d(dy/dx)/dx but you can also expand that into a more complicated form < 1433784881 790101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wait... do you have a thesis about calculus? < 1433784886 723512 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, graph theory < 1433784887 865385 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worse < 1433784889 958999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whew < 1433784952 684576 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433785066 492690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For tar I just use "tar t" or "tar x" or "tar c" though < 1433785154 98489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is different. if you're creating an archive, you have to explicitly tell how to compress of course < 1433785162 569670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't guess in that case < 1433785176 389650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to compress. I will use an external program to compress. < 1433785196 503775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that too < 1433785205 561079 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just convenient for me that tar can invoke the external program < 1433785257 70429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, there is no good reason for tar to invoke external programs. (For some programs this is useful, but not for tar) < 1433785301 510623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1433785305 845479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it convenient < 1433785311 996246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's one case when it's essential < 1433785319 469687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the compression case < 1433785340 227545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which case do you mean? < 1433785343 189853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :--checkpoint-action < 1433785368 296444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets tar periodically invoke a program, passing some environment variables, that lets me print a status message of how far tar has got < 1433785379 410356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can see an approximate percentage progress when making large archives < 1433785395 76840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's approximate because I can only give an approximate to the final size < 1433785442 413905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still works well enough in most cases, except when I give a very wrong estimate because I don't count linked files, but tar recognizes them and packs them only once < 1433785451 585958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't a pipe do that too though, if you have a "checkpoint action" program that can invoke the other program (and otherwise just copies input to output)? < 1433785489 249996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that comes up most often when I back up a directory with git executables, which has like a hundred files linked to a large executable) < 1433785494 207473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, I guess that could work too < 1433786212 611405 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433786236 455908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very much enjoying this book "How Not To Be Wrong: The Hidden Maths Of Everyday Life" < 1433786391 377755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use quotient rule to expand "d(dy/dx)/dx" < 1433786723 833492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how many hidden maths are there < 1433786895 974494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what sort of things does it discuss? < 1433786996 71647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you able to check for me on https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml exactly which permissions a logged in user who is not a member of the project is having? < 1433787123 886274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if the "Roadmap" feature of Redmine can be turned off? I am not using that feature in my project. There is a list of modules to enable/disable, but that isn't one of the choices. < 1433787124 871245 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, all of them < 1433787135 359876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I'm currently at "Don't assume curves are lines" < 1433787783 570452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433787883 629290 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433788182 605316 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much macros is too much macros? < 1433788195 621143 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1433788232 480590 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have like, 40 in this thing < 1433788364 763404 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, my sclaing algorithm is based on matching patterns against the local pixels... so I make macros that llow me to write the patterns directy into the code < 1433788394 757378 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you recommend a good, funny LP to watch? < 1433788444 751456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: LP = Let's Play? I'm not sure, because I tend to go for informative rather than amusing < 1433788467 666312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically what I do is pick a game I want to learn more about, and then look through a few LPs on YouTube until I find one that doesn't irritate me < 1433788471 444112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, actually < 1433788480 193929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any blind Let's Play of Wario Land 4 makes good watching < 1433788484 684534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look for those every now and then < 1433788493 621193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not particularly funny, it's not like it's a particularly rage-inducing game or anything < 1433788494 586091 :password2!~password@197.77.94.223 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433788499 321061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like seeing how people solve it < 1433788510 918560 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wario land 4 one of my favorite games ever < 1433788553 404085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's great < 1433788587 95093 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433788597 263229 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really enjoyed 3 too < 1433788634 879708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way to think about the Wario Land series is < 1433788649 249928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 and 3 are all liked by over half of players but seriously disliked by a proportion of others < 1433788657 5160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is amazing and hardly anyone dislikes it < 1433788668 129649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 is basically 4 but a bit worse, but that doesn't make it a bad game because "4 but a bit worse" is still good < 1433788675 767513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody can remember what 1 is lijke < 1433788677 725584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like < 1433788681 203276 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware there was a 5 < 1433788712 628158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's on the Wii, and called "Wario Land: Shake It!" or "Wario Land: The Shake Dimension" depending on localization < 1433788720 615983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's one of the most painfully obvious 4 clones ever < 1433788730 662343 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1433788733 631651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with level design that's a little less inspired, and a different but arguably more interesting moveset < 1433788742 48699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are the unskippable cutscenes part of why some people hate wario land 2 or 3? < 1433788753 863576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean in the gameplay < 1433788761 87051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this the gameboy or the nes games? < 1433788769 229749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a nes wario land < 1433788774 412599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433788778 808905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a virtual boy version that's apparently really good but hardly anyone has played it < 1433788785 193198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normally considered to be the /only/ good game on the virtual boy) < 1433788812 573612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise because nobody has a virtual boy < 1433788820 781516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I think < 1433788833 263434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the only good game than that's understandible < 1433788837 839890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's because it only has one good game < 1433788854 962346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most consoles have multiple good games < 1433788873 126917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, even the unpopular ones < 1433788879 57197 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wario land 3 was fun because of the way you had to explore old levels < 1433788891 866025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the virtual boy was just basically a terrible idea though, it was an attempt to make a 3D games console before the technology for that existed < 1433788905 297181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: um, you can explore old but changed levels even in wario land 1 < 1433788954 580437 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433788974 180294 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can't in 2 and I don't think you can in 4? < 1433788980 796597 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've never played 1 < 1433788995 893545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you can replay old levels in 4 but there's no reason to unless you missed collectibles < 1433789003 110958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for fun of course < 1433789039 382395 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about 3 where it's part of the game, though < 1433789072 841598 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: in wario land 1, completing some zones can change old levels significantly, so it can be worth to explore them again. you don't strictly have to if you're not going for the best ending, but I think there are collectibles you can access only after a level has changed. < 1433789092 202608 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433789269 829466 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433789289 224268 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433789476 871253 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elron7zz\ < 1433789489 393557 :Elron7zz\!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd < 1433789546 968152 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433789716 643329 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1433789825 533184 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1433789915 223938 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433790218 376852 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433790442 985043 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433790676 421730 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1433790684 71349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433790684 851528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :substructural typing/Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1433790690 777379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? structural subtyping < 1433790691 566160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1433790716 31057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433790716 939000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefly/FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1433790739 615692 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is annoyingly true, but I guess is actually about channel regular FireFly ? < 1433790760 598556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I've actually worked with substructural subtyping, I think < 1433790823 697552 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly < 1433790824 387121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1433790844 691861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1433790845 381359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F" < 1433790852 738335 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433790876 168577 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433790890 222371 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1433790890 715098 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the channel regular isn't actually a TV series, I think < 1433790890 973175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ < 1433790904 772251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, are you sure < 1433790976 581089 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rnooodl <<<'this is a test' < 1433790977 305852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a test < 1433790982 648557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1433790983 189243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1433790992 86417 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433790999 537089 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ngevd < 1433791000 46545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/ngevd: No such file or directory < 1433791000 450754 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fairly sure < 1433791007 384900 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, hmmmmm < 1433791034 115402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` noooodl < 1433791034 667348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1433791041 845773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433791042 624849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1433791046 391388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433791048 38612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl is the correct spelling < 1433791050 355272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so great < 1433791073 136182 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1433791073 391795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit excessive to pipe all wisdom through it < 1433791073 722512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ < 1433791087 454260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who let the fnord out... < 1433791099 35823 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433791099 795463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​i \<JB>Lkǻ%W/q^MC < 1433791101 596178 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure fungot did < 1433791101 820702 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: got url? it does almost no computation. < 1433791113 622852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten why it's special cased < 1433791126 432090 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433791127 339744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​)XCT5JSЈ3^ _C9Um.VovR\\FFʂH-/e&[5 8lG D{2Vwa.>J*(bEhD *9@R7Dv|c_.SydNKXST4ϕEn_.hjƎeO=A[qD,M,$i;.6-^1J I2"\XY˯M̲~@CǛbKk ˑ%](@ؿчN~vymFJfPqHی e%1^ ?LA$̀ < 1433791144 926707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should put it back to being a symlink to /dev/urandom, someone's sure to explain it again then < 1433791147 796325 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, was causing issues with `pastewisdom < 1433791148 954290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1433791149 520128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ < 1433791169 977782 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was getting to Ngevd then dissolving into random garble evermore < 1433791194 341794 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps fix pastewisdom instead < 1433791217 682377 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433791259 43477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was also causing issues with people doing anything wisdom/*. < 1433791265 297538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ad-hoc grepping through. < 1433791274 819775 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433791285 137042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or computing statistics, or whatnot. < 1433791398 725596 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair < 1433791454 864634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433791456 907851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1433791475 997184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433791476 917165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. < 1433791544 534135 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. ^[%/H didn’t work. < 1433791652 57877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433791654 191359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner/fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1433791656 508403 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1433791758 781451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433791759 516888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433791795 777535 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?   < 1433791796 447903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433791818 171371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433791818 878986 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anana/ananas is the real pineapple. < 1433791840 227933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433791841 182654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c#/C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1433791850 757247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1433791851 464606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433791882 677907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :java sounds like a Tanebvention to me < 1433791902 986067 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn  /  is a space, unless you're hackego and don't understand wide characters. < 1433791904 900622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned « » < 1433791974 216090 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :«quotes» are at least better than ”quotes” and »quotes» < 1433792010 423453 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Finnish_and_Swedish we have the silliest quotation marks < 1433792012 313322 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a whitespace expansion that uses all the invisible characters in unicode < 1433792021 566524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ < 1433792022 158195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final frontier. < 1433792027 526827 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ./ < 1433792028 287011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ./: Is a directory < 1433792044 121806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../../../../../../etc/passwd < 1433792044 749320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../../../../../../etc/passwd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433792069 42645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /etc < 1433792069 840944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc: Is a directory < 1433792073 412510 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /etc/passwd < 1433792074 101519 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/etc/passwd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433792077 616864 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1433792139 248879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it doesn't even exist. < 1433792144 506908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can give absolute paths. < 1433792146 146761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1433792180 813441 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /etc < 1433792181 607405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatives \ java-6-openjdk < 1433792198 492146 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /etc/mtab < 1433792199 145594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/etc/mtab? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433792224 803313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /hackego/canary < 1433792225 510753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackego/canary? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433792230 511717 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1433792232 629778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls / < 1433792233 276280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr < 1433792238 147494 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that was it < 1433792241 954578 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /hackenv/canary < 1433792242 703684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cough < 1433792719 986619 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433792862 408606 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433793301 357798 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433793366 515097 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433793513 621087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the canary is /executable/? < 1433793519 290771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's a wisdom entry < 1433793524 515543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1433793544 875852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cough < 1433793548 330205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433793549 801800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Jun 6 16:20 canary < 1433793667 627705 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The natural logarithm is the one you always use if you are a mathematician or have e fingers" < 1433793735 36228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "trick" of "exploiting" `? via absolute paths is kind of amusing, given HackEgo. < 1433793753 740879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /dev/random < 1433793784 195892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433793877 781569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ? < 1433793878 490910 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ?: No such file or directory < 1433793880 908815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1433793883 528634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/? < 1433793884 46964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/?: No such file or directory < 1433793901 38147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? exploit < 1433793901 769915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433793905 250534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name '?' < 1433793905 959040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/ \ /proc/irq/9 \ /proc/irq/8 \ /proc/irq/7 \ /proc/irq/6 \ /proc/irq/5 \ /proc/irq/4 \ /proc/irq/3 \ /proc/irq/2 \ /proc/irq/1 \ /proc/irq/0 \ find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ /proc/1 \ /proc/1/task/1 \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permi < 1433793910 313079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bleh < 1433793911 904659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name '\?' < 1433793915 488072 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `pwd` < 1433793917 49558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double escaping here we go < 1433793917 263519 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`pwd` < 1433793922 98216 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1433793922 566099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as you can see there's nothing HackEgo knows about exploits < 1433793930 688716 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433793945 366984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/2/task/2/fd': Permissi < 1433793977 508787 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo */? < 1433793978 539937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/` bin/̊ bin/! bin/? bin/¿ bin/' bin/@ bin/؟ bin/ bin/e bin/h bin/q ibin/c ibin/k quines/c quines/q wisdom/` wisdom/ wisdom/? wisdom/@ wisdom/\ wisdom/☃ wisdom/⊥ wisdom/⌨ wisdom/  wisdom/🐐 wisdom/ wisdom/1 wisdom/a wisdom/å wisdom/Å wisdom/c wisdom/i wisdom/k wisdom/ø wisdom/Ø wisdom/u < 1433793983 996984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, int-e changed the canary. < 1433793992 558829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so confused, it was chirp not long ago. < 1433793995 54963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the canary? < 1433794009 24331 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just checking ;) < 1433794014 788808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A file. < 1433794018 42854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the canary tells you when the mine is broken < 1433794021 98945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it canarying? < 1433794028 940725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433794029 706454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :willkommen/Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1433794043 697759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1433794044 503143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cough < 1433794047 614411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1433794049 249823 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know the history of the canary file, is it worth checking? < 1433794061 223343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not terribly interesting. < 1433794065 634421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: try to delete it < 1433794081 504241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been chrip, tweet, foo, and now cough. And also empty. < 1433794094 820352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its defining feature is that it exists < 1433794105 380070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can change it arbitrarily otherwise < 1433794110 929829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least it's changed a bit over time... http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/0c6f3ec8633b/canary < 1433794123 753682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary canary < 1433794128 844848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: `canary' and `canary' are the same file < 1433794132 71789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's been "now this file will be strangely hard to empty completely" for a while. < 1433794135 332187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1433794144 993529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why won't ln let me make a symlink that points at itself < 1433794151 510546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary temp-canary < 1433794153 252244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794160 567319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv temp-canary canary < 1433794161 246330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: `temp-canary' and `canary' are the same file < 1433794175 297242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it making a /hardlink/? < 1433794181 702875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l temp-canary < 1433794182 565684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:10 temp-canary -> canary < 1433794191 64686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433794226 611850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir looptest < 1433794229 292070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794233 564519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv temp-canary looptest/canary < 1433794235 349353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794246 977378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv --target-directory=. looptest/canary < 1433794248 146325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794251 503015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433794253 309328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:12 canary < 1433794274 120914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd looptest; mv --target-directory=.. canary) < 1433794275 363244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794278 197754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433794279 979907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:12 canary < 1433794282 881007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433794291 476609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the canary being a symlink is impossible for the same reason it can't be deleted < 1433794296 36376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd looptest; mv --target-directory=.. canary; ls -l ../canary) < 1433794297 627413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:13 ../canary -> canary < 1433794305 102538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I guess that's it < 1433794306 729615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how boring < 1433794312 959552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r looptest < 1433794314 612979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794322 605074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could check, but it might be a "-f test", kind of. < 1433794333 424701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1433794333 627920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's probably what it is < 1433794334 553907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794338 726612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l canary < 1433794342 151297 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1433794346 658868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433794347 393694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:13 canary < 1433794350 554052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: see, it didn't work < 1433794352 762799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it give you a "same file" error? < 1433794364 440577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't, they're different files < 1433794375 861855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it didn't when I expressed it in terms of --target-directory < 1433794392 108209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... if the canary is gone, hackego doesn't commit the changes? < 1433794453 502620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: right < 1433794456 662419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (rm canary; ln -sf canary canary; ls -l canary) < 1433794458 71597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:15 canary -> canary < 1433794467 522395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433794469 727456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 6 Jun 8 20:16 canary < 1433794473 478593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, boring. < 1433794484 835605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you can link a nonexistent file to itself? < 1433794487 463706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1433794492 583736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not overwriting one that already exists? < 1433794494 227093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1433794505 953424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, I know you can syscall-wise, this is about what ln will and won't do) < 1433794510 559005 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The contents of a symlink are actually an arbitrary string. < 1433794512 278994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing that might just be some kind of a very narrow and explicit check. Although nobody's trying to prevent multi-step loops, so... < 1433794515 48109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know that < 1433794518 932159 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln does not validate the arguments. < 1433794528 242641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:10] <ais523> `` ln -sf canary canary < 1433794529 259868 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ln *may not* validate the arguments. :)) < 1433794529 818892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:10] <HackEgo> ln: `canary' and `canary' are the same file < 1433794537 524960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HackEgo's ln disagrees with you < 1433794555 663068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps this was some generic "same file" which was added to all the GNU utilities < 1433794563 239683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without checking to see if it actually made sense < 1433794564 790979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln --version < 1433794565 508946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln (GNU coreutils) 8.13 \ Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>. \ This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. \ \ Written by Mike Parker and David MacKenzie. < 1433794566 909779 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's ln is incorrect. < 1433794574 671234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same as my ln. < 1433794585 168271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly I didn't know GNU for certain < 1433794593 944728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; mkdir canary < 1433794595 892353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `canary': Is a directory \ mkdir: cannot create directory `canary': File exists < 1433794604 987493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a good guess, partly based on probability, parltly based on the fact that it quotes like `this' < 1433794609 807958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? < 1433794612 204282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The reasons for that message are ridiculous. < 1433794612 980112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld canary < 1433794613 188681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary < 1433794613 948092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 8 20:18 canary < 1433794614 125616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794621 989009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I puzzled that out; it's the two-step commit. < 1433794626 382619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think we've discussed them before. < 1433794629 796765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Although I've forgotten the details. < 1433794634 551288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so what is canary /actually/ in the FS? < 1433794646 287846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's a directory. < 1433794653 642338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the message is confusing, because it's from the second iteration. < 1433794660 737649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1433794677 215322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s .. canary/canary < 1433794679 76609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794683 575869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's a directory that contains itself < 1433794688 624195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about as close as I can get to what I was aiming to do < 1433794707 828327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh < 1433794711 644375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could we exploit this to delete the canary < 1433794727 946862 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :a directory that contains itself doesn't work < 1433794732 295943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not, because from what I recall, the second iteration is strictly for the output. < 1433794737 70547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary/canary/canary/canary < 1433794739 80365 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ share \ src \ twolines \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom < 1433794744 311485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -d canary/test canary < 1433794744 530886 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs will complain about "too many of symbolic link" < 1433794744 925692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `canary/test': No such file or directory < 1433794748 52515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1433794752 596527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -d canary canary/test < 1433794753 252120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create hard link `canary/test' => `canary': Operation not permitted < 1433794753 867430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf . canary/canary < 1433794754 563347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: `.' and `canary/canary/.' are the same file < 1433794762 916676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary/canary < 1433794764 626154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794765 883424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf . canary/canary < 1433794768 104079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433794772 233100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary/canary/canary/canary < 1433794772 977339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1433794774 70427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did that hg bug ever get fixed? < 1433794774 837895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1433794791 894636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've forgotten the details of that, too. < 1433794803 245224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have I, but you filed a bug about it. < 1433794821 961151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh. That rings a bell. < 1433794827 921020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/pull-request/3/fix-repository-cleanup-wrt-spaces-in-paths/diff < 1433794844 474547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 2012 <shachaf> zzo38: Did you ever finish your Magic: The Gathering software? < 1433794853 250624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some kind of a patch, but there might have been some uncertainty whether it was throgouh enough. < 1433794864 257719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ? < 1433794890 241751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012 was before I ever played Magic: The Gathering. < 1433794893 971498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1433794903 96130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zzo38 had a programming language based on it or something. < 1433794970 478932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt < 1433794997 250767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you but I wonder why you brought it up. < 1433794999 288010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I actually found it interesting because the idea is still around < 1433795596 370321 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433796455 683379 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized. Performing mathematical proofs using restricted axioms is cross-platform development. < 1433796777 263128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how profound that statement sounds < 1433797087 94107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433797245 937598 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433797394 533783 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433797406 555444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes, and in theory it could be useful for portability if we meet alien species that have developped mathematics before they learnt it from us < 1433798046 443851 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aliens who, for some reason, developed a type of mathematics besides classical mathematics. < 1433798206 163707 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they consider negation to be a very strange and advanced concept. < 1433798295 458762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :>aliens having mathematics comprehensible to us < 1433798296 101268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433798482 852605 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I met an alien, and found that they didn't know about "our" mathematics, I would wonder why the heck not. < 1433798495 548906 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only so insane they can get without losing physics. < 1433798542 722014 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I wonder how mathematics would have developed in a universe with no concept of space or quantity. < 1433798556 646751 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all bets are off if we meet said alien species in a context where they're not likely to have cause for much in the way of physics) < 1433798597 157606 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not too hard to imagine a universe with no concept of space. It's harder to imagine a universe with no concept of quantity. < 1433798609 309130 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, a universe where the concept of quantity is relatively useless. < 1433798641 145085 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it would be a universe where everything is unique, and so it doesn't make any sense to have "two of something". < 1433798706 543404 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where whenever you divide things into classes, there are necessarily infinitely many classes and infinitely many things in each class. < 1433798777 978410 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a universe that's very small, and so it doesn't contain very many of anything? There are still quantities, but all of them are very small. < 1433798809 839606 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a universe consisting entirely of two incorporeal people. < 1433798891 478322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a universe where everyone is a humanities student < 1433798938 913163 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433799310 806231 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433800482 383764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn universal property/Universal properties are the best. < 1433800484 347504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «universal property» < 1433800507 906718 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dino < 1433800508 560735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dino? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433800545 409350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433800552 560627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads/Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1433800586 506581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C++ < 1433800587 336713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1433800630 927782 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433800684 108564 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, while I can imagine an alien culture having much of the same mathematics as us I cannot see it having the same notation < 1433800723 946704 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... < 1433800730 922165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: exactly. and even if they have the same mathematics actually, but with very different notation, we have to prove rigorously that the two mathematics are the same, < 1433800747 520558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, prove that their integers are exactly the same as our integers, etc. < 1433800761 934433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where the portability comes in. < 1433800783 245015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And very often, the two mathematics won't be the same, but only equivalent. < 1433800788 532053 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be a completely diferent system, based on qualities and influence, perhaps and less on quantity as something is quantifiable < 1433800794 179535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to find and prove what the equivalences are exactly. < 1433800848 729145 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one also think that they'd probably have our mathematics, but it might take a lot of time to figure out how their notation corresponds to ours and find the equivalences. < 1433800911 833489 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to believe that an advanced culture doesnt have the need for such complexity in their number systems < 1433800935 830832 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemurian, unfortunately, we are the most advanced culture we know about < 1433800972 794884 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a head strong assumption to say humanity is the most advanced culture, < 1433801006 314604 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly the most advanced culture that I know about < 1433801050 327729 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here, but then again our exposure to off-planet culture is virtually non-existant, < 1433801170 65439 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point is, our sample size of advanced cultures is 1 < 1433801191 372281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only assumption we can make of that is that the way we do things is certainly a way to do things < 1433801203 20163 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1433801222 239464 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433801230 22496 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it stands to reason that another advanced culture could do maths in a similar way to us < 1433801249 898940 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433801257 953197 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as people have probably thought very hard about this, other ways to do mathematics seem not to really exist < 1433801275 76611 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i feel it's deeper than just thinking really hard < 1433801278 167178 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least not be particularly useful < 1433801307 18651 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemurian: I didn't necessarily say off-planet < 1433801318 394845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I include alien future species on Earth < 1433801349 61471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very likely that we'll meet such species, and even if we will, they might have learnt maths from us < 1433801362 333043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying I don't insist on off-planet < 1433801431 487500 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the important part isn't that other ways of doing maths doesn't exist, but that we believe that our way of doing maths actually exists, up to equivalence < 1433801448 441954 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a belief system < 1433801577 283944 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which begs to imply perhaps the physical world which humanity has designed and been architect to, our physical world is only as good as the math systems behind it, and behind any number system are beings who give meaning to that number system, it's as if we are creating mathmatics all of our own projections based on the belief in those systsms as they are agreed upon between beings < 1433801614 983967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433801647 819831 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, doesn't our way of doing maths trivially exist? < 1433801751 570288 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the key question is whether you can be productive without pythagoras < 1433801770 763336 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the answer to that is also trivially yes < 1433801771 344457 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433801775 942316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we don't know it's internally consistent < 1433801784 806500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist < 1433801803 121765 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433801817 950073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wrong answer is still an answer < 1433801822 777261 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just perspective < 1433801847 70968 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one two thre, one of something, then two of that something, and so on < 1433801858 843047 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we achieve SETI with only naive set theory? < 1433801870 358529 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the influence of that individual item being quantified < 1433801878 341305 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is another perspective < 1433801901 374566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <Taneb> Could we achieve SETI with only naive set theory? < 1433801901 803779 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe so Taneb, it would just look different < 1433801903 762270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1242) <Taneb> Could we achieve SETI with only naive set theory? < 1433801911 779568 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's not the way of doing maths that matters here, but the maths we got. the question is whether that maths exists, as in, that it's always existed and we're just discovering it, rather than inventing something new. < 1433801919 496501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :always existed as in timelessly < 1433801985 294461 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, this is dangerously close to philosophy < 1433802001 686555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is < 1433802012 161542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think, whatever alien monsters are studying mathematics, must figure out the same kind of things although it might come out in an entirely different way, completely different notations (if there are any notations at all!), and perhaps might not consider natural numbers as "natural", but it is still going to be the same natural numbers even if it isn't "natural". < 1433802034 128297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless natural numbers are a common thing that can get in the mathematics < 1433802101 152990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example in category theory you have the finite discrete categories, which add, multiply, exponent just like they are natural numbers.) < 1433802144 96615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that is my opinion. (I don't know everything, either.) < 1433802179 304523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I find that nonnegative integers are the most common sorts of numbers that I find naturally arising out of esolangs < 1433802187 702183 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its good to philosophize and konversate < 1433802192 320678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like saying "natural number" beacuse that's ambiguous) < 1433802200 402148 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from time to time, anyway' < 1433802242 127209 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote unnatural < 1433802243 119034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1241) <ais523> after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist <ais523> they're so unnatural < 1433802262 482571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good quote, because I didn't realise the pun at the time < 1433802273 485808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well obviously, they're the free monoid on one variable < 1433802278 380689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the easiest thing that exists < 1433802296 382645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some people might have different opinions of "the easiest thing that exists" < 1433802303 874032 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I know some who would argue that they are in fact the free semigroup on one variable < 1433802312 68233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to go more specific, my belief is that the first chapters of the Book is an introduction to mathematics in a way that's equivalent to ours, though it might be using very different notation, and of course later chapters of the Book contain mathematics in all other notations too. < 1433802319 511482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK #esoteric please tell me whether monoids and semigroups are the same thing or not < 1433802323 846363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no < 1433802324 322115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even contains mathematics that isn't too natural. < 1433802332 52235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think they aren't < 1433802335 555028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen multiple opinions on each side < 1433802336 876554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, monoids are semigroups that have the property of identity < 1433802339 384685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they aren't, then what is the difference? < 1433802346 450508 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they are not < 1433802346 660963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, semigroups don't have an identity? < 1433802351 477848 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not neccessarily < 1433802353 458348 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't have to < 1433802355 624481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433802371 2889 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it an overloaded term like "ring" where some people assume an identity < 1433802372 90996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433802372 366314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're basically just things that are associative and have no other properties? < 1433802377 899064 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1433802379 78710 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1433802382 151342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rings have two identities :-P < 1433802392 302414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rings half precisely 1.8 identities < 1433802401 271260 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: possibly; I've never heard it said that semi-groups have identities, but wouldn't be shocked if people assume it < 1433802405 36310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I meant is that it might be considered not as natural at all except those who would study mathematics a lot might think it "natural" in those contexts otherwise you probably won't. But, I agree that it would be the most common to "naturally arise" from many kind of mathematical things. < 1433802407 414392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok < 1433802411 642185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not overloaded < 1433802416 827700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never means identity required < 1433802422 649872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we have "monoid" for that < 1433802430 575340 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sure < 1433802431 393379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely, I would think, even alien monsters and whatever else, would figure that out too. < 1433802435 333584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, we also have ZZ-modulus to mean a ring with identity < 1433802445 165622 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, or "ring with identity" < 1433802457 925560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nah, that's too many syllables, people are lazy < 1433802467 128897 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-module is only two syllables < 1433802474 918981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1433802476 334290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :three < 1433802478 175730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not two < 1433802479 294739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1433802509 578178 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think natural numbers are the set recursively defined as N := finite sequence of N < 1433802524 72194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might not even have a word (if they have words at all) for subtraction, other than "inverse of addition", for example. < 1433802536 404226 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1433802537 281492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with that definition, then you need to define the set, sequence, finite, etc < 1433802638 911458 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433802692 44156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in some stuff in mathematics the "infinite natural numbers" arise just as well as proper natural numbers would < 1433802754 262052 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kind of infinite natural numbers? < 1433802796 942897 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-sydnbgwphgvswnoe QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433802883 817817 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would imply the kind that increase or decrease endlessly in either direction < 1433802898 304488 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-trkfixoqbdgltjxc JOIN :#esoteric < 1433803054 716496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other stuff there is the proper natural numbers which aren't infinite < 1433803075 90342 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural numbers that allow infinity do not have induction < 1433803148 102733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is not actually natural numbers, I know, it hasn't the induction (unless you can make the kind that does have induction? I don't quite know) < 1433803230 590289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In category theory you have finite discrete categories, and then there are also infinite discrete categories, and categories which are not discrete categories, but you can still add, multiply, exponent. < 1433803253 416250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could also define factorial as a category of bijective endofunctors < 1433803256 36707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's that bug again. whew. < 1433803267 754136 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just some bug in my own stuff) < 1433803282 876866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was some other problem. < 1433803315 991637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, if you have real numbers, you also have the natural numbers because you have the multiplicative and additive identity and you can repeatedly add it up, multiply, exponent, and work just like natural numbers, too. < 1433803392 94283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also many other examples of how you will arise natural numbers out of mathematics, probably including many that I don't know, and perhaps other people also don't know yet < 1433803413 107096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? What do *you* think??? < 1433804125 718770 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:fd4e:311e:aa7a:75c8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IVN is terrible < 1433804147 589484 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've discovered how to define a mathematical textbook. < 1433804158 51674 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mathematical textbook is a mathematical paper which contains at least one exercise. < 1433804209 192177 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I can imagine an alien culture failing to define the concept of an infinite set. < 1433804222 688329 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rather, failing to define the concept of a set in such a way that there exist infinite sets.) < 1433804250 976071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but maybe there must be some mathematical way to do it, but perhaps what seems obviously to them is something quite different to our own. < 1433804295 492623 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd express Euclid's theorem the way that Euclid did. < 1433804303 244494 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For every set of prime numbers, there is a prime number not in the set." < 1433804325 335105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like that is a way < 1433804354 41850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good too < 1433805864 589488 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433806804 189668 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwaoydpnchcoxjkd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433807227 116048 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just had a phone technical interview < 1433807250 524956 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is the command to tell what directory you are in?" < 1433807294 319645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On UNIX it is pwd and on DOS/Windows it is CD < 1433807299 354293 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is the difference between TCP and UDP?" < 1433807305 311626 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know < 1433807317 617719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the difference between TCP and UDP? < 1433807339 354780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time I had a job interview where they probably decided not to hire me because I said wrong things about TCP. < 1433807349 209168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1433807350 248080 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: see https://rekrowten.wordpress.com/list-of-network-jokes/ < 1433807361 137544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically the TCP & UDP section < 1433807396 246883 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433807668 61343 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1433807955 637297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm where is boily < 1433808462 476785 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scoured the TCP & UDP section to make sure it didn't contain "I'd tell you a UDP joke, but you might not get it." < 1433808484 6748 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That joke is incorrect. It implies that TCP guarantees delivery. This is not the case. < 1433808531 835602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That joke is not incorrect. < 1433808556 161895 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1433808601 543210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does TCP guarantee that if the recipient doesn't get a packet, they won't get any subsequent packets either? < 1433808607 756348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to imply that from the joke? < 1433808622 20115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says nothing about TCP anyways < 1433808630 922867 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pretty sure, yeah. < 1433808686 710383 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the nice thing about a UDP joke? If you don't get it, you don't have to hear it again and again until you do. < 1433808697 225 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433808751 351056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, a byte in the TCP stream, not a packet. < 1433808757 327982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: err, yes < 1433809003 378307 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-trkfixoqbdgltjxc QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433809272 123709 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yatvaurxdugojkag JOIN :#esoteric < 1433809921 43116 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433809923 98858 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1433809923 274394 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433810061 840566 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433810348 467785 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433810440 916392 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwcmfzqaualdxiss JOIN :#esoteric < 1433810658 659780 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433810799 356324 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433810874 47880 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433811047 423341 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF < 1433811060 684946 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811076 731753 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433811111 521426 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811123 312973 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433811139 778234 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811164 309868 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433811366 498604 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811369 826888 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811467 392390 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433811663 756166 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433811712 554650 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433812061 258438 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433812106 716552 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433812170 944237 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1433812230 632160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willkommen < 1433812234 407313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1433812263 317917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/auf .*/auf EFnet oder DALnet.)/' wisdom/willkommen < 1433812264 966258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433812267 416486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willkommen < 1433812268 181067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) < 1433812914 543443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l canary < 1433812915 201622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1433812921 590025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433812924 117998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 8 20:21 canary -> . < 1433812988 750574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test >test; rm canary; mv test canary < 1433812990 367696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `canary': Is a directory < 1433813006 623052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433813011 405962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433813012 37398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 8 20:21 canary -> . \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 5 Jun 9 01:24 test < 1433813059 673959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which rm < 1433813062 912067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/rm < 1433813095 682951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; echo test >canary < 1433813096 338718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `canary': Is a directory \ bash: canary: Is a directory < 1433813100 729382 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433813104 348774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :htf did this happen < 1433813136 498185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1433813137 128345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ share \ src \ twolines \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom < 1433813165 266047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv canary/test . < 1433813167 454282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433813178 236332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -lL canary < 1433813178 844030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 9 01:27 canary < 1433813208 686038 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1433813217 912876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls rmdir canary; echo hm >canary < 1433813218 542470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access rmdir: No such file or directory \ canary: \ canary \ bash: canary: Is a directory < 1433813225 614077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rmdir canary; echo hm >canary < 1433813226 176848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `canary': Directory not empty \ bash: canary: Is a directory < 1433813235 92816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary < 1433813235 743709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1433813242 136753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1433813252 953072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary/canary < 1433813254 687096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433813271 401993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rmdir canary; echo hm >canary < 1433813272 941551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `canary': No such file or directory < 1433813282 791579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary < 1433813283 418214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1433813290 966708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433813291 627740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 3 Jun 9 01:29 canary < 1433813298 647988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1433813299 160849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433813327 480673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls test < 1433813328 89366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433813364 658926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; mv test canary < 1433813366 235212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433813372 212658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433813372 884630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 5 Jun 9 01:31 canary < 1433813377 586600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls test < 1433813378 320963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory < 1433813388 804449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat canary < 1433813389 385356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433813392 680059 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433813423 164117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1433813474 593632 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:fd4e:311e:aa7a:75c8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433813603 267890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1433813606 582837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" >> Complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1433813684 663690 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433813830 950440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 5484 < 1433813837 626751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1433813843 141236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433813843 981449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 9 01:38 canary -> . < 1433813905 621957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you trying to do? < 1433813951 681044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just testing if there was a loophole in the canary checking < 1433813977 265923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which there didn't seem to be, but first i had to undo the mess y'all created today < 1433814012 236991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was mostly me < 1433814031 489004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to make the canary a symlink to itself but it can't be a symlink < 1433814054 921451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you test making it a symlink to something else? < 1433814117 598815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise i'm going to call the evidence insufficient) < 1433814126 731801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I'm pretty sure that that was the problem < 1433814136 66235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1433814137 546925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1433814146 11575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433814152 470733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433814152 943237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433814153 252432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 5 Jun 9 01:43 canary < 1433814153 680323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 5 Jun 9 01:43 canary < 1433814161 718243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1433814162 323660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1433814179 692514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (rm canary; ln -s /bin/wisdom canary; ls -l canary) < 1433814181 99121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 11 Jun 9 01:44 canary -> /bin/wisdom < 1433814186 161035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433814187 893820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 5 Jun 9 01:44 canary < 1433814191 130669 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1433814193 565490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that sufficient for you? < 1433814194 907008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433814196 309457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 5484 < 1433814197 681442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1433814219 100151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433814219 787876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 9 01:44 canary -> . < 1433814374 267169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> could we exploit this to delete the canary <-- oh you had the same idea :P < 1433815069 657160 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know your macros have gone too far when you start needing to use a macro like < 1433815081 570607 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ap < 1433815092 198556 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ap(a,b...) a(b) < 1433815096 453148 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ap2(a,b...) a(b) < 1433815098 957388 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ap3(a,b...) a(b) < 1433815101 794774 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1433815149 446446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1433815191 690591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you would want to define macro in two difference ways to parse include files in many different ways. < 1433815224 194269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that's GNU syntax right? < 1433815228 368354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1433815231 827771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I assume you have to use multiple different macros so that you can nest them? < 1433815239 330578 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1433815274 48149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, can you use macro expansion to produce the line number part of #line directives? < 1433815284 652637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, you could probably include the same file multiple times with different line numbers < 1433815301 864976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then use token pasting and recursive includes to create different macro variants < 1433815309 592002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that the left half of a #define can't be macro-expanded, meh < 1433815460 774444 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's an option to gcc to run the preprocessor twice? < 1433815519 930213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still wouldn't work, I think < 1433815541 229049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if gcc had an option to run the preprocessor repeatedly until it reached a fixed point, on the other hand… < 1433815597 781934 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's been demonstrated. < 1433815613 126465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you can allowed to make _CPP("x(%d)",42) to allow it to execute preprocessor again a second time and expand x(42) into its place instead. < 1433815621 433302 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone actually submitted to IOCCC something that was TC in such an environment IIRC. < 1433815742 964307 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, http://www.ioccc.org/2001/herrmann1.hint < 1433817158 326725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433817352 515720 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433817768 242543 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433817787 803500 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433817927 531136 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esoteric instruction sets out there in which the instruction length is 1-bit? < 1433817941 726589 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: yes < 1433817960 153702 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: there is http://esolangs.org/wiki/TOD (language, not ISA) but there are also 1-bit instruction length arches < 1433818038 900000 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terrifying! < 1433818072 937391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the various 1L variants < 1433818086 779947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although those are two-dimensional < 1433818105 541006 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty new here, ais523: what's 1L? < 1433818108 211812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the turning tarpits < 1433818111 430658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOD is basiaclly one of those < 1433818115 331254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/1L < 1433818144 799677 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1433818431 626708 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the idea that most intrigues me is something like bit-bit-jump, in which the underlying system doesn't really need to implement any logic functions (i.e. no ALU, no counters like a PC), but reduced to a 1-bit instruction length. I've been trying to think of ways to achieve that, but to no avail yet. < 1433818502 608329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this reminds me of http://esolangs.org/wiki/MiniMAX but that doesn't scale down to one bit < 1433818758 585624 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Similar, although that one requires the interpreter / circuitry to implement an adder (for the relative jumps). < 1433818782 487260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: yes < 1433818797 704574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea behind minimax is that all the operations it needs happen to be single x86 instructions < 1433818801 264476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if ones that aren't used that much) < 1433819031 819232 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433819070 370427 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwcmfzqaualdxiss QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433819071 456739 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ouvbexwvwnowbvfz QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1433819074 90417 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsezlfghtwmgkcxb QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1433819273 415557 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: X_X < 1433821036 334732 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1433821473 589043 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433821688 700247 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1433822740 196543 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433822847 277255 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433823067 214077 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: jot is 1bit isn't it? < 1433823081 421961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh yes, I hadn't thought of that < 1433823091 902215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it doesn't really have two commands, so much as one command and an opening paren < 1433823098 27647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can figure out where the closing ones are by context) < 1433823108 58243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a tree structure rather than a linear program < 1433823111 740410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jot < 1433823149 500110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but an opening parenthesis is an operator. push to stack or w/e. < 1433823182 85134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: forward-polish is quite hard to express as a stack machine < 1433823187 574609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "jot written backwards" works < 1433823208 66765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm...or "jot read backwards"? < 1433823235 277429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Dungeons&Dragons game I tend to use both mundane and magical stuff to accomplish something, but this can include powers that are not my own such as hiding a wand I have stolen (I didn't know its function) under a door (which I have previously cast mirror object on to reverse its hinges), so that when they open it the wand will affect them, or deliberately standing in the opponent's slowing field and firing a flaming arrow, in order to trick t < 1433823242 460398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I guess that's a different but equivalent langauge < 1433823294 412470 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo38, now i want to play a round of delver, but i need to go to bed... < 1433823417 423070 :password2!~password@197.77.94.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433823518 857585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the mundane though when it seem possible or easily enough, including using mundane utilities on magical stuff (such as writing additional tally marks on a magical device I do not own), or that there are various costs associated with magical powers, such as time (for everything really though), using up slots/power-points (except for mind-blast which uses only time, and anti-magic amulet which must disable everyone's magic including my own, an < 1433823645 142914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or sometimes I put in my own costs/limitations to make it more interesting. < 1433823814 242735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic might also be suppressed, interrupted, altered, or countered, though; those are other thing to consider when dealing with maical stuff...!!! < 1433823851 213132 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :asi523 / quintopia: Thanks for the link. Regardless, Jot looks interesting, though it's gonna take me some time to figure it out since I'm not familiar with the system being used to describe the language's grammar. < 1433824393 471560 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433824832 448435 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: there's also https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bitwise_Cyclic_Tag if you're okay with a separate data queue. < 1433825096 57662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433825098 694711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output/ < 1433825131 746135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1433825133 584334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? output < 1433825134 299724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433825149 99859 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Interesting! < 1433825318 875845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433825319 598837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact/facts are lies. They are not there. Go away! < 1433825345 473657 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433825830 645666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCT is glorious < 1433825839 695615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually is BCT turing-complete starting from an empty queue? < 1433825848 902228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has three commands, though, really < 1433825850 409309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not two < 1433825970 166874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the action on an empty queue is always to halt immediately... < 1433825991 125715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm < 1433826022 883395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1433826058 919692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, neither command can work on an empty queue. < 1433826800 512164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433826801 297694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endomorphism/Endomorphisms are just morphisms which compose with themselves. < 1433826840 43630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my definition of a factorial of a category correct, or is it all wrong? < 1433827040 482719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1433827040 658368 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1433827157 572942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to do, toss a coin? < 1433827446 803467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433827458 506564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433827665 776590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: asking fungot the answer to your question, hth < 1433827665 991865 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a good reason to learn the scheme way < 1433828031 457899 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433828110 488689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That isn't a very good way you should try to answer the question properly < 1433828162 722759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is your definition of a factorial of a category? < 1433828180 245542 :password2!~password@197.77.94.223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433828208 9007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no i shouldn't, my brain wouldn't be able to. also what shachaf said. < 1433828253 176373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is ^bool implemented? hardcoded funge? < 1433828274 643602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither BF nor Underload can even do PRNGs in a one-time-run process because they have no way to seed < 1433828283 605117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has to be, neither interpreted language supports it < 1433828296 410725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show bool < 1433828296 596729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another option is that it always says No. < 1433828308 629021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show prefixes < 1433828308 815177 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !)S < 1433828309 406612 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433828317 131432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, ^show would have worked if it wasn't hardcoded < 1433828462 47478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defined as the category of bijective endofunctors of category < 1433828710 851678 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433829055 764565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sounds reasonable for finite sets at least < 1433830051 624011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then how to do with infinite sets? < 1433831047 843392 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433831530 742104 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433831534 373093 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqwtcmnakjadnzzl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433831584 833950 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98#L202 < 1433831585 415526 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i was going to mention another idea: provide an environment where all modifiers function has been given a meaning ( at runtime) before it's encountered in program flow, like, well, 44 fixed the properties dialog." < 1433831867 530389 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evwpkrpxyjqdemqr JOIN :#esoteric < 1433832400 191888 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433832555 127203 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just learn VRML < 1433832707 786859 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxgtqrlhitihtrkf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433832707 962592 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dspxsrhpqykotutw QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433832783 67556 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433833330 50085 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivoiccveoyjptwpo JOIN :#esoteric < 1433833368 769637 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1433833371 986341 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmjdasrcbhfvhfjh JOIN :#esoteric < 1433833566 86347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ETc. < 1433833700 100163 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1433833719 938130 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433834599 813870 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433834848 824017 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433834891 124527 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshiimguqzkgujbz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433836195 655661 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433836413 175701 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord morning everybody < 1433836535 529040 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/Complaints < 1433836541 706562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/Complaints: No such file or directory < 1433836547 659884 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find ./ | grep Complaints < 1433836550 711313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433836555 579826 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find ./ | grep compl < 1433836557 882514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./bin/complaints \ ./bin/complain \ ./.hg/store/data/complaints.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/complaints.i \ ./.hg/store/data/bin/complain.i \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/completion \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/completion/git-completion.tcsh.i \ ./.hg/store/data/git-master/contrib/completion/git-completion.bash.i \ ./.hg/store/data/g < 1433836568 901977 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ./bin/complaints < 1433836569 473923 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -l Complaints < 1433836573 166608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought `complain sent it to /dev/null < 1433836575 326431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not? < 1433836581 431587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l Complaints < 1433836582 37216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc: Complaints: No such file or directory < 1433836587 809387 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1433836588 471855 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc: Complaints: No such file or directory < 1433836601 796845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1433836602 475402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" >> Complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1433836613 423986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how new that is < 1433836644 380157 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls Complaints < 1433836645 48452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access Complaints: No such file or directory < 1433836664 585506 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Hi >> Complaints < 1433836669 997547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433836672 965552 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints < 1433836673 477544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1433836683 472904 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1433836688 586788 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain Bye < 1433836690 151661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1433836692 196731 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints < 1433836692 887913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi \ Bye < 1433836706 567976 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo > Complaints < 1433836708 516057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433836709 140888 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Complaints < 1433836709 755998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433836771 300710 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433837032 937444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the "legacy tax" passes this weekend. < 1433837137 81188 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how they say that it's a "family unfriendly"-tax < 1433837223 306829 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I doubt most families have enough to bequeath for the legacy tax being applied to it. < 1433837242 656886 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it is only applied for >2. Mio. < 1433837495 917827 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it is retroactive (?). That's not really a nice thing to do. < 1433837577 119126 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the rich families can hide their money in a foriegn bank, can't they? < 1433837586 944281 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1433837597 658587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the new "legacy tax" would actually be less than what most Cantons have < 1433837608 704420 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :most cantons have around 25% to 30% legacy tax < 1433837620 485020 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the new state wide legacy tax would only be 20% < 1433837633 694634 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is why most Cantons don't really want that because it means they'll loose money) < 1433837641 624825 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so rich people generally profit from this. < 1433837655 332047 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think taxing the rich usually doesn't do much good because the rich are so mobile < 1433837684 625882 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you're rich then this new tax shouldn't bother you < 1433837691 602470 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the new tax will be less < 1433837713 869065 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant in general < 1433837804 293710 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The super rich ones are certainly very mobile, yes. < 1433838040 615660 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1433838058 324189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :most cantons don't have a legacy tax for passing it on to direct children < 1433838116 671870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the new tax you can pass on 4 Mio. to your children tax-free. < 1433838161 942313 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I think the general argument is that since everybody has to pay tax on what he earns peolpe who "earn" money by inherting it should do the same < 1433838168 230863 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*people < 1433838247 655013 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: not only the rich ones. You could hide money as well. < 1433838291 492617 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wealth tax is so low that somebody with just a little money doesn't really have enough incentive to do that. < 1433838500 80186 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"95% of all humans are sick" < 1433838506 357795 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. < 1433838543 724604 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:a92c:19d1:acf:1bdc QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433838586 366237 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people already have Myopia/Hyperopia < 1433838604 581989 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised it isn't 99.314159% < 1433838655 802758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Myopia prevalence was re- ported to be 50.3 " < 1433838786 451037 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also on average one ot ouf 10 has diabetes < 1433838789 223142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out < 1433838791 966520 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1433838816 525683 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that depends on the country you live in < 1433838825 679240 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some apparentely have a prevalence of up to 20%. < 1433838840 868804 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you love statistics as much as I do? < 1433838841 247270 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: welcome back riastradh, you have 1 message. riastradh says: i've just started eatting meat again, i managed to read < 1433838898 103314 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433838931 418715 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and don't forget caries. < 1433839070 441801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfunny fact: People get sicker the older they get. < 1433839173 94123 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433839490 665140 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do specific phobias count as a single condition or a condition for each specific phobia? < 1433839551 662000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of specific phobias? < 1433839662 876307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :arachnophobia and the like < 1433839684 654888 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's technically a medical condition. < 1433839741 471489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the answer < 1433839780 884954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, maybe, there are cases where it is a single condition as well as cases where the condition is separate. I don't really know, though. < 1433839861 26656 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are cases, yes. < 1433839878 662180 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if it's an underlying personality disorder or a general anxiety disorder < 1433839898 456144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they count "headache" as a disease as well. < 1433839904 819946 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who doesn't have headaches < 1433839937 327264 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure if they only count chronic headaches < 1433839944 318169 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as "almost daily" < 1433839971 33127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a huge study < 1433839974 176255 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/2004_report_update/en/ < 1433840055 616036 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :infertility is a class 3 disability < 1433840146 99372 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron-deficiency is very common < 1433840430 315007 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cataracts are also probably very common < 1433840521 792117 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have 25/20 vision because of cataracts < 1433840551 339084 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait what order do the number go in? < 1433840582 395459 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :53.8 Mio. < 1433840593 108696 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the world-wide prevalence of cataract < 1433840630 604984 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common listed disability in that list is hearing loss < 1433840643 653861 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because old people tend to get hearing loss < 1433840684 291278 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to 125 Mio. people with alcohol abuse < 1433840696 597692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or >1000 Mio. with iron-deficiency < 1433840746 358006 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my friends has abnormally sensitive hearing. I wear earbuds and listen to music, and he can listen to it and pick out the lyrics. He can't stand anywhere near a speaker playing music even at normal volume < 1433840753 802344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up character page of level20.tex in All The Tropes by now, but isn't very good so far, I think < 1433840765 630630 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsurprisingly diarrhoea is really, really common :) < 1433840769 633809 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433840783 506399 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, a lot of people get it from milk < 1433840788 624664 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4620 Mio. < 1433840794 800944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make up any Magic: the Puzzling too? < 1433840820 686956 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: although most people have abnormally insensitive hearing < 1433840832 527417 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I watch TV and somebody else joins they usually double the volume < 1433840851 487332 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame too loud music in clubs. < 1433840853 770948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make up Magic: the Puzzling and make it into a book, I will buy it. If Wizards of the Coast were to make such book I would buy them too. < 1433840854 800179 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :abnormally sensitive hearing probably counts as a disability < 1433840858 366018 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I don't go the clubs obviously) < 1433840864 142740 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*go to < 1433840873 662420 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: It is. < 1433840891 899136 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend can't stand being in front of a club let alone enter it < 1433840896 269790 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's really distressing and annoying. < 1433840917 422022 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're friend probably couldn't sleep where I do :) < 1433840920 34624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Your < 1433840950 246195 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of traffic and an old house with not very sound proof walls and not very sound proof windows < 1433840969 286523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sleep with the windows open < 1433840971 368802 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the good thing < 1433840977 269457 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because closing them doesn't do shit to the noise < 1433841015 91885 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433841069 421439 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's an outdoor pool very near < 1433841077 145257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOO! < 1433841080 258758 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPLOOSH < 1433841081 482090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can always hear the kids there < 1433841096 193471 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(public outdoor bath. I don't know what you guys call that) < 1433841109 34641 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lido" < 1433841122 412023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in summer you can hear them all day long screaming :) < 1433841129 657538 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :swimming pool? < 1433841135 770188 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :outdoor swimming pool < 1433841146 620800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no roof) < 1433841186 412118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a soccer field nearby < 1433841194 609024 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can hear the fans screaming when a match is on :) < 1433841215 437194 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are cafe < 1433841217 535624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :outdoor swimming pool is within 5min walking distance, soccer field also within 5min walking distance < 1433841233 151772 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice rink within 5min walking distance < 1433841240 473860 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping centre within 5min walking distance :) < 1433841270 989656 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much everything you need is within 5min walking distance < 1433841275 135882 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in a very loud neighbourhood (lots of clubs) but my house was built with thick walls and double glass windows < 1433841320 347987 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's only loud at night, really. < 1433841401 115298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loudest thing is, you can always hear some tiny dick moron revving a motorcycle. < 1433841458 844576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's a bouldering hall within 5min < 1433841459 742718 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they take the dampers off to make it louder < 1433841466 49286 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that one costs 25k a year < 1433841468 934259 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean wtf < 1433841469 847911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :25k < 1433841471 826194 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1433841492 289 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it made out of platin? < 1433841521 425502 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah or guys driving 50km/h in first gear just so the motor is howling < 1433842410 49014 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. There's going to be a talk about "Augmented Reflection Technology for Upper Limb Stroke Rehabilitation" at my university < 1433842937 597591 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433842942 915183 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^\blsq 2ro < 1433842943 90769 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2} < 1433842948 291951 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^\gulf :2 < 1433842948 467571 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1 2] < 1433842959 783702 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^\gulf ,:3R{,p+p < 1433842959 959598 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1433842993 828919 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^\gulf ,:6R{,p*p < 1433842994 44063 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 720 < 1433843011 751831 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^\blsq 6ro{?*}r[ < 1433843011 927448 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 720 < 1433843135 455549 :bunbunbot!~bunny@160.85.232.162 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433843390 383596 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat :) < 1433844570 760892 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when websites like slashdot push my CPU to 100% because of some stupid flash ads < 1433844600 933268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: use a plugin that disables Flash until you interact with it (typically clicking)? < 1433844610 490617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that feature even comes standard with some browsers nowadays < 1433844622 485481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't impact your ability to use Flash for its legitimate uses, it's just one more click < 1433844694 142699 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution is even simpler if you don't believe that flash has legitimate uses < 1433844723 307923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I have an entirely separate browser for Flash- and JS-heavy sites < 1433844731 359214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have Flash not installed and JS disabled by default in my main browser < 1433844816 37573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433845427 695751 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433845475 506805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck with all the angular.js sites then < 1433845540 427510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433845709 681742 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433847198 532439 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a unix tool to encode files into b64? < 1433847221 69940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: base64 < 1433847231 47448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is the name of the tool, it's not me correcting you) < 1433847502 432544 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean when quickcheck gives up? < 1433848622 87184 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles firefox with great force “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!” < 1433849079 742214 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433849311 290762 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SYLVESTRE CHICKEN < 1433849383 679621 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433850019 628803 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433850594 417137 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that desktop apps were poorly programmed so they mess up your computer < 1433850608 969096 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays you can still poorly program them but since they are websites now they don't mess up your computer :) < 1433850969 829836 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Pipe < 1433850970 822880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :package Pipe < 1433850970 998741 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Posix.Files.ByteString PipeBufferLimit :: PathVar < 1433850970 998814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Posix.Files PipeBufferLimit :: PathVar < 1433850975 348620 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Effect < 1433850975 996137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :package effect-handlers < 1433850976 171959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :package effect-monad < 1433850976 172038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :package effective-aspects < 1433851105 29391 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle yield < 1433851107 109460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Concurrent yield :: IO () < 1433851107 285253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.Conc.Sync yield :: IO () < 1433851107 285336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.Conc yield :: IO () < 1433851129 813424 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433851139 623681 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/@folsen/haskell-in-production-bdellium-1df48de40e19 < 1433851151 296898 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- I guess these Pipes and stuff are proprietary then < 1433851916 787945 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433852735 409898 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433852999 3705 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433853014 504701 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433853017 363081 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433854085 966530 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433854566 800365 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Phrases like this are precisely what started to depress me about my employment options in FP: "Bdellium is a small company in the financial services sector providing analytics and reporting tools mainly to the US retirement industry." < 1433856433 563575 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433856565 712526 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1433856565 927939 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1433856867 204991 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433857326 553463 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433858788 133723 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433859519 324358 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433860046 151671 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433860557 258689 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433862694 813345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433862705 304423 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433862884 510486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433862994 776105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433863370 200825 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433863751 10048 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433864520 772846 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433864522 61404 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433865274 944519 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I had a ridiculous idea that probably has been thought of before < 1433865289 470609 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Nat = Nat [Nat] < 1433865377 788950 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where all lists are finite and have finite depth) < 1433865419 662366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that called Nat? < 1433865455 41397 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is isomorphic to the natural numebrs < 1433865469 665632 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, it is a representation of the natural numbers < 1433865498 75437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isomorphic in that it's an infinite countable set? < 1433865523 38861 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know you can represent the naturals as bitstrings? < 1433865539 367951 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using it as sparse bitstrings < 1433865560 782570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see. < 1433865588 194942 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 in binary is 1001 < 1433865624 888196 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I then encode it as "Move right 0 times, write a 1, move right 2 times, write a 1", or [0,2] < 1433865633 332185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the elements of that list are in turn natural numbers < 1433865733 224892 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1433865822 355312 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make sense? < 1433865878 177856 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw JOIN :#esoteric < 1433866018 559151 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433866036 914397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly. < 1433866066 627523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :another Tanebvention < 1433866075 583443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1433866092 52669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1433866110 63371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1433866110 955714 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually invented this, it doesn't go in the list < 1433866111 131576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1433866121 961545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what are you implying < 1433866128 608831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433866129 484462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433866133 247506 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the torus < 1433866134 75452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the torus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433866136 224710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1433866138 983849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? toru < 1433866139 751122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toru? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433866141 664624 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1433866148 369751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*toru* < 1433866149 247078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/the torus: Too many levels of symbolic links \ ls: cannot access wisdom/torus: Too many levels of symbolic links < 1433866161 682153 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weetoflakes < 1433866162 468461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1433866174 647695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Torus? He hardly knew us! he did inventus though < 1433866177 802803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'torus?': Torus? He hardly knew us! he did inventus though < 1433866194 385811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*torus* < 1433866195 272717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/the torus -> torus \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Jun 7 16:50 wisdom/torus -> the torus \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 49 Jun 9 16:11 wisdom/torus? < 1433866196 709790 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think that was quite what you intended, Phantom_Hoover < 1433866209 249888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck < 1433866213 405254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/torus? < 1433866216 591300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433866219 596852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fml < 1433866228 48770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look just get the old entry back < 1433866246 202426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la canary < 1433866247 4499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 8 \ drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 9 01:44 . \ drwxr-xr-x 16 5000 5000 4096 Jun 9 16:11 .. \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 9 01:44 canary -> . < 1433866263 356033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1433866263 531753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1433866268 800075 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -lad canary < 1433866269 575695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 9 01:44 canary < 1433866287 512796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame oerjan < 1433866305 671058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -s wisdom/ngevd /dev/urandom < 1433866306 328053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1433866309 514077 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'd be careful with that, he tends to read the logs ;) < 1433866312 82136 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried < 1433866322 731001 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I think he is actually to blame < 1433866329 482919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know ;) < 1433866366 116775 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433866521 465223 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, actually it was ais523. oerjan and agent smith had a fight; the agent won. < 1433866663 735098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1433866739 569095 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, why is `complaint no longer dispatching with the complains ... uhm ... efficiently? < 1433866750 135525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :complaints. < 1433866904 549379 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1433866905 231434 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Complaints < 1433866927 906316 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433866928 191605 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` true > Complaints < 1433866930 109333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433866931 828286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1433866932 994739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 Complaints < 1433867018 847735 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqwtcmnakjadnzzl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433867035 273225 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the 17 marks I lost in my computability and complexity exam, I lost 1 for being too damn laconic, 5 for an arithmetic error, and 11 for misreading the question < 1433867057 696514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many marks are there? < 1433867301 944291 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yatvaurxdugojkag QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433867321 129461 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1433867330 468070 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1433867407 161813 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 < 1433867611 857577 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ひゅゆうぇん < 1433867833 400365 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s /dev/urandom wisdom/ngevd < 1433867834 145447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link `wisdom/ngevd': File exists < 1433867843 2058 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433867843 730947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​HZa=Lh < 1433867851 643781 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ngevd < 1433867853 148889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433867859 903176 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s /dev/urandom wisdom/ngevd < 1433867861 723085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433867867 15231 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433867867 839023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ͨq\+7CEuΔ:YA\ǏcDh=^[X<c~Nz@2CڼyN1Gst%4.3߽:Q2Z}t徕FW! ] uz < 1433867871 414017 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433867872 357507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GR]dz`aLʦ9TBL%:2m̐b8W.gD٣>5#t(*_,~끪HkyG]Rn9..Q{[. < 1433867882 355180 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frickin' success. < 1433868130 435024 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1433868190 66131 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc < 1433868192 781505 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 2 \ 281 \ 285 \ 286 \ 287 \ 288 \ 289 \ 290 \ 291 \ 292 \ 3 \ 4 \ 47 \ 49 \ 5 \ 51 \ 6 \ 68 \ 7 \ 76 \ 77 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms \ kcore \ kmsg \ kpageco < 1433868205 82409 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc/self < 1433868205 862349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :auxv \ cgroup \ clear_refs \ cmdline \ comm \ coredump_filter \ cpuset \ cwd \ environ \ exe \ fd \ fdinfo \ limits \ maps \ mem \ mountinfo \ mounts \ mountstats \ net \ ns \ oom_adj \ oom_score \ oom_score_adj \ pagemap \ personality \ root \ smaps \ stat \ statm \ status \ task \ wchan < 1433868209 134124 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433868209 870611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433868211 306825 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1433868260 780867 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s /proc/self/cmdline wisdom/reflection < 1433868263 613168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433868265 354419 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1433868266 304994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1433868277 221936 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` cat wisdom/reflection < 1433868277 890254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1433868283 796327 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/reflection < 1433868284 480685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.wisdom/reflection. < 1433868443 85045 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` read foo < wisdom/reflection; echo "$foo" < 1433868443 787325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash < 1433868532 989580 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most useful piece of wisdom ever. < 1433868683 538141 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433868762 69379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1433868762 833395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1433868782 475570 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433868786 387366 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you did that already < 1433868804 944099 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I see what's happening, that's nice < 1433868805 391922 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433871032 417911 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433871178 791942 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433871328 499965 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1433872188 38175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1433872190 894330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ln -s /proc/self/exe wisdom/binary\ reflection ) < 1433872232 245181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heared rumours that this bad style of interviewing exists where the reporter is asking a long list of fixed clichéed questions from a paper and doesn't ever react to what the interviewed replies, < 1433872238 956546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I never heared a real example for it. < 1433872246 310445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This interview is exactly that. < 1433872256 500419 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did they get this woman? < 1433872275 654489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human Resources? < 1433872285 260637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1433872288 61910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was a Turing Test. She passed. ;) < 1433872296 415767 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433872297 320020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he looks nice < 1433872301 950956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not obvious through radio < 1433872323 593967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :long enough legs < 1433872334 495267 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would've been obvious to the people hiring her < 1433872347 164850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1433872370 411824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless she was hired over the phone, does she have a good voice? < 1433872399 533278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might even have the advantage that he can sometimes get some people to start giving an interview, but what would that be worth if then they get a useless junk interview? < 1433872430 592972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, pratchett had something to say about this interviewing style... http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/words-from-the-master.html, search for "on interviews" < 1433872449 132462 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433872453 207814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: exactly < 1433872490 623047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that but longer < 1433873486 902121 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433873622 939834 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1433873669 74301 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What interview? < 1433873836 245988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's < 1433873836 565342 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is there documentation about the most depressing site ever. it will let you delete the temporary < 1433873917 23743 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most depressing site ever? < 1433873941 972092 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :golf.shinh.org < 1433873942 762379 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1433873947 2252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very active lately < 1433873992 749545 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm over golf.shinh.org < 1433874003 231085 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning? < 1433874009 641941 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You now hunt deer in the forrest? < 1433874011 35014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :waste of time < 1433874031 116363 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what hobbies are usually for < 1433874032 724091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasting time < 1433874041 887915 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what a Job is for < 1433874072 576383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pondering writing a loop finder for combinatory logic. < 1433874083 430139 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433874093 35131 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on Gulf :) < 1433874303 94309 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433874307 401504 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uncle hunts deer and birds sometimes. < 1433874476 52146 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1433876279 372735 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hunting is becoming very unpopular. < 1433876290 787159 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :With all the "how could shoot an unarmed animal"-people around < 1433876297 695495 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there are any armed animals around ... < 1433876382 365154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We live in a time where humans have more empathy for animals than for other humans < 1433876482 258669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433877439 707981 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1433877565 233203 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433878022 887260 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make your faith for yourself and together. therefore my shrine is keep on exterminating ghosts" how can someone have perfect english pronounciation yet sound so completely stilted < 1433878200 100403 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the lyricist should have consulted the singer for grammar lessons < 1433878718 327201 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433878746 434052 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly whoever wrote the libretto for this album must have gotten like, 60% in English class < 1433878936 563627 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: see current poll question on Irregular Webcomic < 1433879516 924727 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433879720 136170 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433880071 781590 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, a bug report complains that some random generator functions are "unpredictable" < 1433880090 37793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny even though it makes sense if you read on < 1433880327 326845 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, does the same seed not produce the same series all the time? < 1433880409 434070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: something like that, yet < 1433880418 444100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the report is also wrong because he hasn't read the docs < 1433880425 688749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he does write "unpredictable" in a sane context < 1433880435 220512 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the report isn't preposterous, just wrong < 1433880452 952510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trying to save rng state and restoring it later, but does it wrong < 1433881573 808337 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433881616 723593 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433881738 45645 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433883100 669605 :quietello!~abc@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433883173 973460 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapa < 1433883281 678115 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1433883642 247436 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433883655 909490 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here try TIS-100 yet? < 1433883690 611825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not (yet) what is that? < 1433883731 758647 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a game where you have to write multithreaded assembly to play < 1433883752 30023 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get up to 12 cores, and each core can only have something around 18 lines of assembly each < 1433883784 521387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what kind of instructions and what kind of winning game and stuff? < 1433883815 371751 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get some input devices to read from, and an output device(s) to write to < 1433883831 789039 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they give you instructions on what to do to the input, and the expected outputs < 1433883841 803938 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zachtronics.com/tis-100/ < 1433883865 515512 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433883944 153520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will look. < 1433884174 102570 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433884278 687559 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433884311 800284 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I'm writing an emulator for the TIS-100 < 1433884319 403418 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in python! < 1433884680 225972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of buying it on Steam, but the 10% discount wore off. < 1433884927 944975 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433885179 825251 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord night everybody < 1433885775 385874 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha, that's why I'm writing an emulator < 1433885820 740118 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, than and the fact that writing an emulator is quite satisfying by itself < 1433885919 441873 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433885924 443994 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433885940 524238 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1433885940 857679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 092100Z 29010G15KT 15SM -SHRA SCT033 OVC080 20/17 A2958 RMK SC3AC5 SLP017 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1433885972 407362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fungot it's only -SHRA, you unweathered Environnement Canada dweebs. < 1433885972 583189 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: welcome back acon, you have to < 1433885990 37573 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I have to dry, that's what. my feet are wrinkled. < 1433885990 291358 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: g'd nite all < 1433885995 229727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 'night! < 1433885995 473007 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but after expanding the aif it would. but those are only superficial changes. < 1433886077 134087 :GeekWebChat!3279d298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.121.210.152 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433886080 55315 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1433886122 832174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's thunder here < 1433886123 45352 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1433886128 62435 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1433886128 316636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 092127Z COR 19014KT 4SM TSRA BR FEW008CB BKN020 OVC070 21/19 A2992 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2058 VIS LWR SE-SW FRQ LTGICCG SE-SW & DSNT NE TS SE-SW & DSNT NE MOV SE P0089 $ < 1433886129 628636 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've gotta go get a suit < 1433886144 276363 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot that's one metar if I've ever seen one. < 1433886144 452057 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: works fine for me. < 1433886156 940032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: suit? < 1433886165 500270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a black suit < 1433886169 536074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an upcoming funeral < 1433886176 145022 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is waiting on me at the suit store < 1433886210 757071 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1433886227 628897 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile all i want to do is watch the one night ultimate werewolf thread because holy fungot is it entertaining < 1433886228 158158 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: guile has pretty complete fnord bindings, and i'm not in school, but i don't use a mouse, and so on get's resolved at command time < 1433886298 805496 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a few minutes to see what a skillful con game looks like, read it: http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=111990 < 1433886317 854769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to guess who the wolves are < 1433886367 210701 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō. < 1433886389 418091 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quietly, slowly munches on his pretzels in awe and wonder < 1433887032 342941 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :australia is ruined forever for me < 1433887065 628278 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are getting geothermal energy from a mesozoic basin < 1433887069 8857 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eromanga_Basin < 1433887083 169664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1433887083 996618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 092153Z 30012KT 10SM SCT035 OVC140 20/13 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP120 T02000128 < 1433887107 771870 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1433887108 256534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 092146Z 01004KT 340V040 15SM VCSH SCT055TCU BKN084 21/15 A2972 RMK TCU4AC2 SLP062 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1433887339 207954 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433887431 20077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: come to Montréal. it's quite far from Australia. < 1433887856 389966 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my brains. they hurt. < 1433888275 705109 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1433888476 396446 :quietello!~bcd@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433888531 377030 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome quietello < 1433888532 580340 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13quietello: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06<http://esolangs.org/>. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1433888581 795329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433888582 698161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza/Pizza is a kind of rhubarb pie made without rhubarb. < 1433888625 995689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg blame wisdom/pizza < 1433888626 943872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1795: Pizza is a kind of rhubarb pie made without rhubarb. < 1433888637 29493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never realized I could hg blame in HackEgo. < 1433888650 373602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also apparently I put that wisdom there. < 1433888654 799495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize that. < 1433888696 779886 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433888705 762462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433888709 848646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433889350 172241 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I admit having created some wisdom entries. I wonder who's the most prolific author. < 1433889353 579460 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, shellochaf!) < 1433889370 941449 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. are you a great wisdomist? < 1433889379 600867 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433889391 541010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1433889516 935116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a while ago i had the impression i was the only one adding stuff to wisdom and quotes. it's not quite that bad now. < 1433889583 876339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 <ais523> hmm, I wonder how new that is <-- the repository browser is at http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/ < 1433889584 52069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433889655 395428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 also, i am _not_ to blame for that one hth < 1433889655 571271 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433889705 657720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one are you not to be blamed at for what? < 1433889715 450182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the changes to complaint < 1433889728 985149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*complain < 1433889736 145253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and associated files < 1433889972 935683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<mroman_> I hope the "legacy tax" passes this weekend. <-- huh and norway just abolished _our_ inheritance tax... < 1433889981 737897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last year < 1433890062 875636 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433890167 686654 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg blame -u wisdom/firefly < 1433890168 814710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackBot: FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1433890172 107179 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1433890174 711187 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1433890180 821970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1433890236 604563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get the commit message from hg and figure out the IRC user. < 1433890246 155805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo write a script to summarize it < 1433890611 46732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman_ <mroman_> ^- I guess these Pipes and stuff are proprietary then <-- the pipes package isn't proprietary but hoogle still doesn't index all of hackage. iirc ndm is working on a new version that does that and more. < 1433890611 222410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433890759 576209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i would have thought he'd have had it up and running by now. < 1433890898 250219 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -r $(hg annotate wisdom/firefly | cut -d: -f1) | sed -rn '/^summary/ s/^summary:\s*//p' < 1433890899 522149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<Tanea> learn FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1433890920 25921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably want hg log, not hg annotate, anyway. < 1433890921 757396 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433890929 159624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A per-line summary doesn't make sense. < 1433890941 784078 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be handy to ask for the last commit that changed a given line < 1433890982 608886 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/firefly | sed -rn '/^summary/ s/^summary:\s*//p' < 1433890983 672740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<Bike> revert \ <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ <Tanea> learn FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1433890987 662386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433891000 715355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433891001 501893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433891010 69934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to find out wtf went wrong < 1433891076 141124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -l wisdom/*torus* < 1433891076 846083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- 'l' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1433891082 232650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*torus* < 1433891088 472641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i already did hth < 1433891088 687996 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/the torus -> torus \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Jun 7 16:50 wisdom/torus -> the torus < 1433891116 609474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 5466 < 1433891117 534926 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find file to patch at input line 4 \ Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? \ The text leading up to this was: \ -------------------------- \ |diff -r d2fdb9c12e32 -r 673d4139cdaa wisdom/torus \ |--- a/wisdom/torus Sun Jun 07 16:47:56 2015 +0000 \ |+++ b/wisdom/torus Sun Jun 07 16:50:51 2015 +0000 \ -------------------------- \ File < 1433891133 415283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1433891136 182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433891136 697999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433891177 390429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: `undo and `revert don't handle links properly, even if hg does :( < 1433891240 424799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test >wisdom/torus; undo 5462 < 1433891241 480015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/torus: Too many levels of symbolic links \ can't find file to patch at input line 4 \ Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? \ The text leading up to this was: \ -------------------------- \ |diff -r 1747ab989893 -r bc50e28c60b5 wisdom/torus \ |--- a/wisdom/torus Sun Jun 07 16:36:01 2015 +0000 \ |+++ b/wisdom/torus Sun Jun 07 < 1433891246 557615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1433891256 982720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/torus; echo test >wisdom/torus; undo 5462 < 1433891259 338428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/torus < 1433891262 623021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1433891263 514774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1433891267 51236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the torus < 1433891267 780081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1433891272 854884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1433891365 875531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait why did i do this before i decided whether to revert tswett's changes... < 1433891801 258394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1433891802 14820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1433891859 23948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/reflection < 1433891859 670648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Jun 9 16:46 wisdom/reflection -> /proc/self/cmdline < 1433891874 513237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that link likely to break anything? < 1433891889 96016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg blame wisdom/reflection < 1433891890 35309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5501: /proc/self/cmdline < 1433891902 214685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's tswett hth < 1433891916 671071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was wondering whether it would break hg blame < 1433891923 198202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it? < 1433891929 817683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, like, trying to answer your question, man < 1433891937 406038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you gotta be a h8r < 1433891975 808691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm thinking about breaking in a more general sense of "why we stopped making wisdom/ngevd link to /dev/urandom" < 1433892011 826162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` undo 5500; undo 5499 < 1433892013 67704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next patch, when reversed, would empty out the file wisdom/ngevd, \ which is already empty! Ignore -R? [n] \ Apply anyway? [n] \ Skipping patch. \ 1 out of 1 hunk ignored \ patch: **** File wisdom/ngevd is not a regular file -- can't patch < 1433892023 103889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1433892033 388635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1433892034 197565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 12 Jun 9 16:39 wisdom/ngevd -> /dev/urandom < 1433892042 905381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` undo 5500 < 1433892043 887706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next patch, when reversed, would empty out the file wisdom/ngevd, \ which is already empty! Ignore -R? [n] \ Apply anyway? [n] \ Skipping patch. \ 1 out of 1 hunk ignored < 1433892053 417129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so annoying < 1433892057 26711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1433892057 763893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 12 Jun 9 16:39 wisdom/ngevd -> /dev/urandom < 1433892063 1673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ngevd < 1433892064 604274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433892070 517416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 5499 < 1433892072 786899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/ngevd < 1433892078 931645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433892079 726367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​|kޞe}^ \ @y֋6! h{,iGq20߃n3 ks~L \ : VkZb$II<nE%U'E8_`2Uw14N4?lM;{d \ HyV3 ohz=@2L.ѩI*tGV!z@l[Q[<F]GE"Mx7XNI,Xs3gYj61z^pY%inWIߎF" r&uXQ֝\a{mED2AOڇ, K{3zLoHx^! >!}yd{ < 1433892096 705683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1433892100 42017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that one < 1433892103 781693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1433892104 400583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ < 1433892174 240063 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433892254 862278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did i actually manage to fuck it up < 1433892269 541742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/ also tswett‼/' wisdom/ngevd < 1433892273 902398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433892280 120892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um tswett did the changes this time < 1433892292 52885 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :bless you tswett < 1433892295 289719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :blswett < 1433892295 903311 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just special case ngevd in cat instead < 1433892354 806723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: um the point is that we want it to be possible to run commands over all of wisdom/* without them breaking, cat is just one small bit of it. < 1433892383 647232 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ? uses cat right? < 1433892394 459886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ? already has it special cased. < 1433892465 849723 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1433892469 86796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1433892481 409458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ls < 1433892481 948665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/ls < 1433892493 221113 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh... well write a device that is like dev urandom but with a byte limit per process? < 1433892494 867900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED < 1433892497 625899 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which dog < 1433892498 345048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433892529 111306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: and you expect us to make that survive in HackEgo's brittle repository _how_? < 1433892575 73775 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with, uh, endofunctors? < 1433892602 304394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_weird_ things happen with abnormal files in there... < 1433892611 405952 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say... < 1433892639 555828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not touching some of them. ain't gonna PDF them. let some poor other fool do that instead. < 1433892666 354345 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? template < 1433892667 97675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :template? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433892672 859467 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? macro < 1433892673 569191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433892726 787567 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coffeescript < 1433892727 842361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffeescript? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433892730 644243 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg has some trouble with symlinks I think < 1433892734 177082 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? javascript < 1433892734 927873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433892743 262522 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did, at some point. Maybe they fixed it < 1433892793 338581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: they don't reliably survive `revert and `undo, at least. < 1433892809 155204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether that's hg itself is a different matter. < 1433892872 966918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep test wisdom/* < 1433892873 829613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/canary: Is a directory \ wisdom/deewiant:Deewiant is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing. \ wisdom/disflagrate:disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. \ wisdom/esosc:esosc is esoteric song conte < 1433892888 758485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep fnord wisdom/* < 1433892889 580685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/canary: Is a directory \ wisdom/fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ Binary file wisdom/reflection mat < 1433892897 336560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: grep -r hth < 1433892920 989767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure that's safe any longer... < 1433892931 842229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r fnord wisdom < 1433892932 686106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1433892951 695904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1433892956 718144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1433892957 829086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1433892958 27155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1433892958 607822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: Is a directory < 1433892984 966199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many people no longer here < 1433892993 628157 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/canary < 1433892994 311860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1433893009 821797 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/canary < 1433893010 683526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Apr 15 07:51 wisdom/canary -> ../canary < 1433893033 339606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/canary/canary < 1433893034 88224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1433893053 280091 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :` ls -lR wisdom/canary < 1433893053 960834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1433893054 745755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess grep checks for cycles. still, a bit unnerving. < 1433893087 284368 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's why the Wisdom is important. to remember those who were, and those that will come. < 1433893103 111414 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1433893103 904707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1433893104 126234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oooh < 1433893122 239234 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -lR wisdom/canary < 1433893123 48602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Apr 15 07:51 wisdom/canary -> ../canary < 1433893143 281834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn #esoteric/there is no channel but #esoteric. monqy is the cenroïd of #esoteric. < 1433893147 143281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «#esoteric» < 1433893153 722803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1433893161 826108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1433893162 30462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1433893172 950424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433893185 626706 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1433893186 439526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 1 Jun 9 01:44 canary -> . < 1433893191 344470 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1433893192 152135 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have any guesses as to the wolves? i can tell you. < 1433893209 387674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1433893210 785843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1433893222 575286 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1433893258 923562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1433893259 625143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no channel but #esoteric. monqy is the cenroïd of #esoteric. < 1433893265 825453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1433893269 521416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1433893272 474985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1433893273 289983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1433893279 198830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn #esoteric/#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1433893279 962027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «#esoteric» < 1433893284 94616 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any commands where evry possible letter is a valid opion < 1433893291 593719 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*option < 1433893306 909136 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "option" mean in this case? < 1433893344 553127 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like -qwertyuiopsdfghjklzxcvbnm < 1433893367 763802 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any commands where all of the letters could be used at once < 1433893391 900225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`true -qwertyuiopsdfghjklzxcvbnm < 1433893392 511684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433893400 395640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even works if you add a < 1433893432 412025 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: vite de même, I think Madge. perhaps Bessie too, but I wouldn't put my hand in a burning fungot about that. Spack's a tanner. < 1433893432 587726 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i last saw arcus on oct 06 at fnord pm < 1433893449 921483 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and according to the 'got, arcus. < 1433893454 362349 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who's arcus?) < 1433893525 860056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who's arcus? < 1433893526 224817 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and especially if i need to add a bit of an inconsistency: fnord for open-output-file, two: if-existent if-non-existent. don't know, what you are < 1433893534 347850 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm this sucks < 1433893548 207271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: statistically speaking, there should be some version of `tar' out there that supports the whole shebang. < 1433893559 461898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary/canary; echo chirp >canary/canary < 1433893561 414961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433893567 944310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's easy. he's a firefly hth < 1433893568 241197 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: foo markup for tt, mark table rows in recent-changes and edit-history with even/ odd divs so that the ai literally cannot lose, it's different < 1433893622 990671 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash under xfce4-terminal starts messing up when the lines get past 80 characters. Bash under screen under xfce-terminal works fine < 1433893633 759287 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you can style even and odd rows with CSS these days < 1433893633 934833 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: we could book a hotel for all of the srfi process... notably a standard condition system. < 1433893671 352811 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1433893671 988781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: Is a directory < 1433893687 441794 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary/canary < 1433893688 112659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1433893706 839908 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it a directory anyway < 1433893718 727270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: because people in this channel are insane hth < 1433893732 612019 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a direcanary. < 1433893747 962398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm not. I'm very sane tyvm. < 1433893768 566328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1433893769 224148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it does something funny to `revert, sometimes. might have to make it a file again. < 1433893787 112402 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how a FIFO would fare < 1433893804 690403 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: positively sanitarily sure. < 1433893829 329736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433893873 736137 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433893884 470539 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :feefifofum < 1433893948 535590 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls canary/.. < 1433893949 318192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ share \ src \ twolines \ Wierd \ wi < 1433893955 943529 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, can one write an n-ary xor in LaTeX, akin to \sum for n-ary summation? < 1433893988 465366 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I think you use like a big earth sign < 1433894030 217905 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 is a big Earth good for n-ary xores? < 1433894030 393557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433894076 818780 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\bigoplus < 1433894118 94097 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(according to wikibook) < 1433894250 902527 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1433894488 516495 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433894538 515332 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of an XML language where this is a valid element? < 1433894539 263730 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Color color="1 1 1, 0 0 0, "/> < 1433894706 535047 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433894758 629430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What XML-based format is that? < 1433894767 327301 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :X3D < 1433894778 193284 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's meant to be two colors, at least, but still very string parsing < 1433894827 971165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like XML much, JSON and RDF are generally better < 1433894842 513783 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was meant to replace VRML, which was its own custom thing < 1433894860 871876 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it basically seems to take VRML and wrap it in slightly XMLish clothes < 1433894899 374077 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer colors to be 6 character hex codes < 1433894935 978523 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or css color names < 1433894959 905509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think that a JSON-based or RDF-based system might be better < 1433894964 232555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also prefer the hex codes < 1433895472 899144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433895473 652863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hom-set/Hom-sets are just sets of morphisms between two objects. < 1433895591 176363 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello_. is X3D similar to AMF? < 1433895653 591679 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what AMF is < 1433895949 820316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433895950 823075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism/isomorphism is isomorphic to Phantom_Hoover up to isomorphism. < 1433896344 541389 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433896509 860548 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433896567 12596 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1433896605 69212 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone there? < 1433896617 509063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome PrinceW3 < 1433896618 427654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PrinceW3: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433896650 877373 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, who is the owner or admin of esolangs? < 1433896662 558432 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an admin < 1433896702 307393 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found an esoteric joke language < 1433896822 581912 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I think should be added to esolangs.org < 1433896822 796094 :quietello!~bcd@58.113.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433896862 599703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org is a wiki. Anyone can add a language. < 1433896909 914543 :PrinceW3!603be3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.227.171 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1433897008 411391 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :page closed? < 1433897082 516765 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boat murdered? < 1433897117 641210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433897118 534374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike/Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1433897121 10574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433897121 935893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork/no < 1433897126 73565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433897126 951685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plugh/A hollow voice says "Plugh" < 1433897128 242134 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433897129 100435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test/test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1433897144 156632 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm the one who added plugh... < 1433897160 61448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/plugh < 1433897160 980700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 4147:642bcf901052 \ user: HackBot \ date: Fri Dec 06 16:51:20 2013 +0000 \ summary: <boily> echo \'A hollow voice says "Plugh"\' >wisdom/plugh < 1433897167 884812 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. < 1433897169 252761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine: Today you'd just use le/rn. < 1433897171 867721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So convenient. < 1433897197 536479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Olden Ways were better. nah. < 1433897213 199066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43187&oldid=43093 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+70) 10added QKAS < 1433897213 400088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :young'uns with their convenience learns... < 1433897231 64419 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce 'hg'? < 1433897244 53891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hug" < 1433897246 4243 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the word 'hug' < 1433897247 40183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433897254 464101 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1433897258 277585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pronounce a lot of things like that word, though < 1433897311 968704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg is pronounced about the same way as hth is hth < 1433897322 560199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hg/ < 1433897525 500069 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hʌg/ < 1433897544 826540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hgldy pgldy < 1433897556 243233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote higgledy < 1433897556 999261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433897558 687797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1433897578 360471 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say! < 1433897762 781737 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no chance to survive make your time < 1433897795 960637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433897796 818172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute."/ < 1433897805 604454 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hʌgs oren < 1433897808 281888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good wisdom < 1433898014 227166 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433898015 197217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverness/Inverness is a city in Scotland. The ring road isn't multiplicative. < 1433898025 663994 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom PinealGlandOptic < 1433898026 397772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk/tmyk the more overfilled your brain gets. < 1433898031 751088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1433898036 43026 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pineapple < 1433898036 872152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pineapple is a hybrid species descended from a cultivar of spinach and wild ivy, therefore making it a class 6 vegetable. < 1433898053 765299 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, does this mean... < 1433898058 871896 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PinealGlandOptic < 1433898059 614181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433898090 97254 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic: OHAAAAAAAAAAAAAI~~~! you aren't descripted. please to provide something descriptionful hth < 1433898346 928516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Hg is actually "mercury"? < 1433898465 292730 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hg is mercury. Fe is iron. ketchup is a vegetable. < 1433899040 237958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43188 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+1704) 10Created page with "|name=QKAS |author=Prince |year=[[:Category:2015|2015]] |influence=[[QWERTY%Keyboard%Dot%Language]] '''QKAS''' was made in 2015 by a user simply known as "Prince". The idea ..." < 1433899110 661621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43189&oldid=43188 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (-38) 10 < 1433899313 168998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43190&oldid=43189 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+38) 10 < 1433899396 904529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43191&oldid=43190 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+17) 10 < 1433899504 866267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43192&oldid=43191 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+8) 10 < 1433899592 487300 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RELATIVELY CHICKEN < 1433899680 964927 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433899899 974031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43193&oldid=43192 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+64) 10 < 1433900613 174050 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433902540 780365 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433904314 539092 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many jobs should I apply for at once? < 1433904328 17224 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 15 too many? < 1433904367 544606 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've apllied for 5 so far < 1433904964 385566 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433906905 290866 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently americans don < 1433906916 139059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t refer to the hydro as the hydro < 1433907104 226367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydro is a norwegian company hth < 1433907127 14933 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in canada the hydro means the electric company < 1433907152 516068 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "my hydro bill was high this month" < 1433907157 804380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1433907225 918973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a reasonably name in norway which is something like 90% (ref: thin air) hydro < 1433907229 673928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*le < 1433907248 264557 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is hydroelectric power that common in Canada? < 1433907274 135268 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, something like 70% of the watershed of quebec is dammed < 1433907281 456484 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you just pretend it's hydroelectric when really you're generating power by burning the husks of huffed kittens? < 1433907301 364309 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1433907303 731550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what we call it nowadays after all the privatization (each of us pays two companies, one for the actual power and one for the lines) < 1433907349 191608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are lot of companies to choose between < 1433907375 28648 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell! In America, the don't have smarties, and rockets are called smarties < 1433907398 642282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the power. the line is generally fixed, i suppose.) < 1433907422 727028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's smarties < 1433907428 558948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rockets < 1433907442 671935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i think smarties is some kind of chocolatey candy here < 1433907477 164922 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's what they are in Canada < 1433907494 370693 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are a tastier version of M&M's < 1433907545 133494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think we have rockets (at least by that name) or M&Ms < 1433907575 208247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have M, which are chocolate-covered peanuts. < 1433907606 60763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has some of those in the fridge < 1433907624 286369 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433907625 338601 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :M&Ms are just chocolates with a candy shell. < 1433907638 310628 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with some varieties, like peanut M&Ms, that have stuff in 'em.) < 1433907691 685375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders if M is why they aren't trying to advertise M&Ms in norway < 1433907703 90452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that i've noticed, anyway < 1433907761 284115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall from back when i visited the us some M&M ad about an M&M trying to look blue by holding its breath < 1433908382 991675 :password2_!~password@197.77.37.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433911299 158813 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433912047 181895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433912072 452391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433912395 175681 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cdefdwkvfmgsjhoq JOIN :#esoteric < 1433913410 937325 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433913830 730190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433914437 738636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433915598 824139 :password2_!~password@197.77.37.195 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1433916364 206503 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1433917324 25694 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433918273 893677 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this i don't even < 1433918373 619539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean you odd? < 1433918979 71516 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just watching some crazy Thai music video featuring hitler < 1433919004 158571 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe this thing even exists < 1433919073 942715 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433919076 780516 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydRxCUZp8Bg < 1433919127 615637 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean they even incorporate the Nazi salute into their Parapara routine. what. the. fuck. < 1433919774 432612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sparr 5* 10New user account < 1433919847 101308 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433920384 424620 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433920444 944754 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433920740 922826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Marbelous14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43194 5* 03Sparr 5* (+5865) 10First draft < 1433924997 915681 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433926723 301875 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433926913 810594 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433926921 521617 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1433926921 697357 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433927174 167900 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433927471 889052 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433927584 869345 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is unifunge considered tc? < 1433927786 119505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes. it has random access read and write statements, and enough statements to build conditionals and a loop < 1433927883 913090 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you do nested loops with only regular #? < 1433928826 247763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you know for sure if some of the coincidences about Lincoln and Kennedy were not deliberately executed by Oswald's employer? (Even if it is, probably not all of them) < 1433930053 426374 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: do you mean unefunge-98? It has j which allows for arbitrary jumps < 1433930403 396464 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: why isn't it defined in the wiki < 1433930456 558613 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the article on Befunge covers B93 < 1433930460 539484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try http://quadium.net/funge/spec98.html < 1433930484 395513 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433930523 74792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can add the Befunge-98 stuff into wiki too then < 1433930552 385528 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the wiki points to the spec under external links < 1433930600 719494 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's necessary to mirror it on the wiki < 1433931627 838461 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433932471 780154 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433932873 986189 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1433933497 913587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433933703 358409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433934387 201254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433934417 747405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433934932 668039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433935623 552819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433935723 353134 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TABULAR CHICKEN < 1433936004 507488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do D-Link router setting files are encrypted anyways? I did find out it is easy to decrypt; the C code is: i=0; while((c=fgetc(stdin))!=EOF) putchar(c-i++); < 1433936033 317178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result is a XML file that contains a comment telling you not to edit this file < 1433936098 883456 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm? < 1433936108 131345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens to negative values? < 1433936150 313549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I think putchar has an effective internal mod-256 in most implementations < 1433936213 106442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if your implementation doesn't you can put in (c-i++)&255 < 1433937474 883663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mroman_: On every standards-compliant implementation. (Well, technically an internal mod-(2 to the power of CHAR_BIT), but anyway.) < 1433937477 867818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- writes the character specified by c (converted to an unsigned char) --" (C11 7.21.7.3p2), and that's what conversion from signed to unsigned does. < 1433937716 498633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-Link is not the only brand, I think I recently ran across a router that had three different ecryption methods (of varying complexity) which could all be independently applied to NVRAM keys. < 1433937725 169297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433937736 665123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another one where the firmware images were xor'd with some pattern. < 1433938228 39016 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433940601 592071 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433941845 319472 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433943448 471161 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433943518 331143 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433943645 959114 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433944168 931485 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1433945316 999974 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433945338 2246 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.circleci.com/its-the-future/ < 1433945390 545664 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433946368 783870 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433946391 531601 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433946621 220735 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1433946970 951898 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433947043 18365 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well you gotta protect your IP. < 1433947297 975838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :127.0.0.1 is MINE! < 1433947735 497243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of IP, I heard that there was a nice bump in IPv6 connectivity metrics back in Finland. < 1433947738 649179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/project.php?metric=p&timeforward=&timebackward=&country=fi < 1433947744 481595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite a deviation from the projection. < 1433947812 974405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had some sort of "National IPv6 launch day" yesterday: https://www.viestintavirasto.fi/en/ipv6now/index.html < 1433947912 87907 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433948088 299038 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1433948283 357762 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can hardware be "esoteric"? http://www.sciencealert.com/engineers-have-created-a-computer-that-operates-on-water-droplets < 1433948555 172967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I think so? < 1433948739 512105 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you'd invented a programming language that acted like water and could compute stuff, it'd be considered esoteric. < 1433948882 461287 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric or not, it's pretty cool < 1433948946 519705 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433949248 410280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Redmine service I am currently using for AmigaMML is said they will discontinue it soon (I don't know when or how soon); now what shall I do about this? < 1433949256 695599 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: well, <color>1 1 1, 0 0 0</color> would definitely be better, imo. < 1433949293 225769 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<colors><color red="1" green="1" blue="1"/><color red="0" green="0" blue="0"/></colors> would be somewhat easier to take in, but it's also really verbose. < 1433949371 831436 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'd say apply for as many jobs as you feel like, but be very careful about applying for multiple jobs at the same company. < 1433949379 214873 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be a good idea. It may be a bad idea. < 1433949437 840624 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applying for 15 jobs is definitely not excessive. < 1433949527 478569 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433949555 153569 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433949659 284548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other way is by RDF such as: [ :colors ("1 1 1"^^C:drgb "0 0 0"^^C:drgb) ] < 1433949797 592465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the node has the list of two colors, white and black. < 1433950803 106503 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433951541 408161 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433954336 319016 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1433954693 17640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43195&oldid=43193 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+1) 10 < 1433956560 220422 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433956588 286835 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :kerio_is_a_boat < 1433956592 985021 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433957110 356790 :kerio_is_a_boat!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd < 1433957206 805803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1433957373 990601 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: g2g < 1433957908 802923 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433959491 707204 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433959504 326168 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433961160 990105 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivoiccveoyjptwpo PART :#esoteric < 1433961593 142994 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoooo; hiring committee approved. < 1433962297 299970 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433962486 14569 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433962681 932601 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433962775 391609 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1433962933 868255 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433963016 751781 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cdefdwkvfmgsjhoq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433964370 928057 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433964827 83828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case, I didn't hear pretty much anything about how my interviews went, except after the final decision. < 1433964872 548582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also when they had decided, the recruiter sent an email saying only "I have some news, when could I call?", which I think was a bit of a tease. < 1433965012 882943 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: good, what will you work at? < 1433965023 779237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they might not be allowed to put that sort of information in email < 1433965111 594691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Mmmaybe. Or they might just have a policy of giving the answer in person. < 1433965151 756365 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433965239 83749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're quite famous for not telling you why you weren't hired if you're not accepted, or so I've heard (primarily from people complaining about not being able to know what they need to improve on). I think the speculation was that it's due to fear of lawsuits, but I don't know. < 1433965415 646903 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also haven't formally handed me a job offer yet. < 1433965422 501082 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's pretty common though., < 1433965456 738109 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the hiring commitee is pretty much the last step to be *worried* about, but there's still some HR paperwork to put together before it's official) < 1433965475 214189 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Don't know yet. < 1433965532 343565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's also technically possible to fail the higher-level reviews, it's just pretty rare. < 1433965554 344952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the compensation committee to actually decide the offer, and some "executive review" or something. < 1433965554 545991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-11-07 ) < 1433965616 932714 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The compensation committee isn't really allowed to say "no" though. < 1433965622 298332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1433965628 409005 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Executive review can say "no", but it's pretty rare. < 1433965634 697987 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, last step to be worried about. < 1433965651 137556 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have to be something like "one of my references said I was secretly terrible" or something. < 1433965658 677049 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you apply? < 1433965677 546910 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google, Mountain View campus. < 1433965697 463865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was given the impression that it can also be something like "due to business reasons", but even more rarely. < 1433965699 75862 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any special department for #esoteric concerns? < 1433965715 241253 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Not to my knowledge. < 1433965715 935056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc we have >=3 if you get in < 1433965731 191140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's an internal code golf site, that's kind of tangentially related to the channel. < 1433965738 202915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Although the language support is pretty mainstream. < 1433965747 341275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1433965779 117625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :#anagol had something like 8 Googlers on it, which I only learned of recently. < 1433966216 834839 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many ircers are there, and how many googlers, and how big the intersection? < 1433966289 689317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My immediate colleagues aren't ircers, but that's in no way a uniform sampling. < 1433966303 576394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I take it fizzie works for Google now, then? < 1433966350 939892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1433966361 122906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also live in London, if you hadn't heard. :) < 1433966368 489885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that much < 1433966380 776553 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you didn't end up in the US < 1433966397 305442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, where is fungot? < 1433966401 88846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1433966415 733394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the strange thing. < 1433966435 861730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433966443 66819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still "connected" (as in, the the read call hasn't failed), but it's not getting anything in. < 1433966461 507231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally it goes "IRC read failed" at some point, but occasionally it gets stuck like this. < 1433966511 145622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking of making it auto-restart (with a max-retry or exponential backoff or something), but haven't bothered to, partially due to the fact that it wouldn't help in this stuck case. < 1433966524 787487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although more because of lazy. < 1433966542 496502 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433966554 77075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could add another irc bot that connects and checks if fungot is connected otherwise kills and restarts fungot < 1433966554 424262 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you argument fails because ( n-1) in self 5, 6, 7, 5, 5 13 5 6 < 1433966563 169860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you have it. < 1433966575 176294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't argue with that, mostly because it makes no sense. < 1433966588 101467 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, I don't know how to argue with that < 1433966605 726445 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're wrong because bot, and also because I am right < 1433966606 151884 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bf does sockets? i think they do stuff like drawing things like lines, and it's fnord est here, so that's your trick :)). i think i'm probably a bit ambitious of me to play < 1433967100 973349 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433967326 263446 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: >=3 looks like an angry cat emoticon < 1433967337 178071 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orn an evil cat emoticon < 1433967405 806149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (>=3) < 1433967408 397988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, Ord a) => a -> Bool < 1433967734 524529 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433968708 781637 :spiette_!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433968722 785366 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1433968730 814288 :spiette_!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :spiette < 1433970500 791861 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433970780 447513 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433971293 212224 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433971466 883076 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433971559 264057 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1433971712 172283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make the program similar to the "mode" function in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/csound/csound/develop/Opcodes/biquad.c but mine has no fixed sample rate; rather the frequency is given relative to the fundamental frequency of the note. But, the note is a bit not tuned! Why is that? < 1433971852 649430 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433972121 885456 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433972350 313692 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1433972646 50813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THE ONLY TELEPHONE IN ALL OF HELL! LOCAL CALLS ONLY, PLEASE." What kind of trope is that called? < 1433973162 483004 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433973357 888431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to opt for http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LastOfHisKind ... because it's not quite completely wrong. < 1433973444 99068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose "last of his kind" won't be quite completely wrong, but it doesn't look quite right either, isn't it? < 1433973557 637250 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433973595 470131 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last Of His Sort < 1433973694 884035 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433973949 369405 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433974204 146562 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellorbalist! < 1433974557 35732 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, that trailing comma was optional, but afaik allowed < 1433974763 282295 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hellørjan! < 1433974763 498983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433975125 553889 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :øerjan < 1433975139 550520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433975155 912583 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello_. that is an atrocity. you should've written ø̈rjan. < 1433975178 77252 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oøerjan < 1433975178 618100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowat < 1433975208 640724 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooer oøer < 1433975233 632180 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to mapole Sgeo_ without laughing < 1433975258 967513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1433975270 149236 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ooer < 1433975276 454570 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read page 4 of the ONUW. wow. < 1433975308 312179 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: http://www.reddit.com/r/ooerintensifies < 1433975419 621165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1433975419 837743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 10m 56s ago: hellørjan! < 1433975459 533957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily godkveily < 1433975459 711338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1433975469 280421 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1433975469 463144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 9s ago: godkveily < 1433976265 116399 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433976752 824595 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433976985 165376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hi the last panel of today's GG worries me < 1433977098 849308 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433977116 879537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh is int-e idle or absent i'm not good with this patience thing < 1433977154 324324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i was supposed to have some chocolate. blood sugar -> < 1433977318 455214 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433979899 142293 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is your blood sugared enough now? < 1433980379 275636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :INCONCLUSIVE < 1433980383 564771 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helló̷̂̇̅̈ < 1433980394 798786 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjoily < 1433980427 238004 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the diacritics impinge on the previous line < 1433980679 343892 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. the diacritics are linear here hth < 1433980772 385554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/09QOBBu < 1433980837 980164 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: when will it be done? < 1433980853 982170 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OKAY < 1433980867 634131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should conclusively sugar your bloodstream hth < 1433980959 611159 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :h́̅̆ể̏l̸̤l̲̹̘̊ö̸̷̤̥̂̀̃̅̆ < 1433980975 837879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the game? < 1433980989 138056 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lose, lol, I'm so random < 1433981016 998840 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1433981039 518283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles oren < 1433981064 652676 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I should've used a spork for mapoling oren. I guess I'm not random enough... ) < 1433981069 557874 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1433981069 682935 NAMES :#esoteric < 1433981086 565572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric oren :Preliminary Zalgo protection < 1433981096 369915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1433981096 377478 NAMES :#esoteric < 1433981108 9360 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the game. < 1433981110 941842 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433981118 501661 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren! long time no see! < 1433981133 985751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'll stop seeing how much shit i can stack on top of a latter < 1433981145 334782 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*letter < 1433981284 875413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as you can see, wam made some mistakes and has now been thrown under the bus. < 1433981302 126382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a spork does not seem to qualify as a mapole hth although maybe if it's an infamous canadian army pole it might include a spork? < 1433981318 648047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1433981325 682707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. < 1433981370 534777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append mapole The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1433981372 784457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mapole': A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1433981412 636033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION felt sudden inspiration < 1433981490 882596 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to update ça au plus vite. < 1433981500 734669 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia < 1433981501 442138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. < 1433981580 165361 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm using zsh at my job, and bash at home. I'm beginning to prefer zsh. I feel tainted and corrupted. do y'all think I should switch everything to the Z, or keep bash as a saner option? < 1433981747 742346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never used zsh < 1433981782 22453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you prefer to use zsh generally you should probably install bash anyways in case some program require it somehow < 1433981901 596237 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use midnoght commander as my shell most of the time < 1433981912 518363 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes zsh too < 1433982029 940258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got the hang of mc. I prefer a good screen (or tmux). < 1433982216 687884 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mc is good mostly for moving and renaming files en masse < 1433982314 187883 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an actual shell I used zsh < 1433982318 593321 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iraugemjhfrvfubg JOIN :#esoteric < 1433982328 949915 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for file management mc is the boss < 1433984441 273958 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-189-93-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433984728 324868 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-189-93-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433984791 794073 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-189-93-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433984923 795656 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to put the current draft of my sprite scaler up < 1433985254 770661 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-189-93-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433985615 583688 :mihow!~mihow@mef2036d0.tmodns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433985892 630001 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares at dropbox to make it sync faster < 1433986336 922663 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433986999 264746 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/orenwatson/oren4x/blob/master/oren4x.cpp < 1433987003 1160 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jyan! < 1433987195 499973 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jyan < 1433987201 314774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jyan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433987258 241785 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're now a coonspirator. < 1433987317 717287 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ALIGNED CHICKEN < 1433987433 506633 :mihow!~mihow@mef2036d0.tmodns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433987671 121378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you even have learn_append command I didn't know that before < 1433987948 461467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even need all of the functions of Redmine; the issues, wiki, files, will be good enough but I would want to allow arbitrary people writing on wiki and this this Redmine doesn't seem to accept that < 1433988129 457269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need the HTTPS either < 1433988145 339448 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433988409 36815 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433989427 270391 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433989993 779135 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: < 1433990752 177773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433993515 906018 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1433994273 124527 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433994558 653918 :password2!~password@197.77.44.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433994673 430149 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433994802 30217 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a great idea. floating precision floating point. You set several bits aside to tell you how many bits are in the exponent < 1433994869 113159 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do hate to tell you this, but that's pretty close to just arbitrary-precision floating point. < 1433994873 971649 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is A Thing. < 1433995070 218831 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's the same thing < 1433995146 790377 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's saying, if you have 256 bits, you use 8 of them to signal how many of the remaining 248 bits are used as exponent and how many as mantissa. < 1433995174 700435 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the total number of bits is still fixed < 1433995269 462799 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That... sounds *really* tricky to implement. < 1433995426 440016 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're that you might waste bits on the meta-exponent when you don't need that amount of dynamic range in the exponent, you can have a meta-meta-exponent that tells you how many bits are used for the meta-exponent < 1433995456 728315 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace "you're that" with "you're worried that" < 1433995683 14301 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, __int128_t is a thing < 1433995943 221377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer its real name, int128_t < 1433996192 611820 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433996288 217885 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433998094 63546 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1433998750 328572 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAOCP 2 has an exercise involving "floating-slash" rational numbers. < 1433999860 559358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that means a number m/n is represented by a fixed-width number k, followed by the k bits of m, followed with all the remaining bits representing n? < 1434001181 63219 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks like some nice light Agoran reading http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg07043.html < 1434001187 217822 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will read it tomorrow < 1434001674 221746 :password2!~password@197.77.44.100 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434002134 75447 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my scaling algorithm is working nicely now < 1434002174 551910 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/lwzyx1cy9/2439f47a/ < 1434002333 310406 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/kpt8mgxhb/ < 1434002408 132017 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it attempts to smooth edges and yet make dithering xxxxxxx patterns look good too < 1434002528 461029 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like look at the carpet in the living room. it has a checkerboeard pattern on it, so the algorithm dithers it more together < 1434002630 258280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Nomanni 5* 10New user account < 1434002699 52696 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: some pixels seem to be leaking from the potted plant, though < 1434002803 246316 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not perfect, but it is made to be easily modified. the algorithm https://github.com/orenwatson/oren4x/blob/master/oren4x.cpp simply matches the area around a pixel to various patterns of pixels with the same color, and a matched pattern results in a pattern for the 4x version < 1434002812 3711 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The artist probably never expected that to become visible < 1434002861 52526 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to keep figuring out rules whenever I see a part that looks too wrong < 1434002869 558958 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimising the battle animations could be more interesting < 1434002882 299362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43196&oldid=43156 5* 03Nomanni 5* (-749) 10 < 1434002991 479600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43197&oldid=43167 5* 03Nomanni 5* (-14275) 10 < 1434003102 5724 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's optimising the esowiki < 1434003106 313751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/drsnyx6kh/ < 1434003126 684884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43198&oldid=43155 5* 03Nomanni 5* (-909) 10 < 1434003143 770146 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we can see some glitches with parts of the chinese chatacters < 1434003211 721386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1434003227 798642 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edge detection would work for more lines < 1434003235 189989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43199&oldid=43196 5* 03Nomanni 5* (-1787) 10 < 1434003265 737060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43200&oldid=43197 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+14275) 10 < 1434003276 433121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:Nomanni10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1434003292 264107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: please don't < 1434003321 951649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43201&oldid=43199 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+2536) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Nomanni|Nomanni]] ([[User talk:Nomanni|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:213.162.68.175|213.162.68.175]] < 1434003322 164062 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43202&oldid=43198 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+909) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Nomanni|Nomanni]] ([[User talk:Nomanni|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:213.162.68.175|213.162.68.175]] < 1434003421 141094 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uh, am I missing somethin < 1434003429 917473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: a spammer hth < 1434003441 590041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: never mind it was ok < 1434003777 175918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one seemed pretty insistent, at least we caught em quickly < 1434003923 972496 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/qbrbyr2tj/ < 1434004045 392552 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like ZAS because it has the most intricate graphics of any game I've played for the original game boy < 1434004099 836313 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434004860 9063 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what scaling alogrithm is that? < 1434004872 579048 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one I wrote < 1434004894 498600 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/orenwatson/oren4x/blob/master/oren4x.cpp < 1434004914 799005 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I modded it into mednafen < 1434004954 58581 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm playing around with machine learning proto-indoeuropean roots. And it finds it very surprising how many roots start with gʷ < 1434005114 503194 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gwuh gwark gwlph < 1434005259 907568 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: are you entering them as unicode or a special encoding? < 1434005421 463334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: gʷery gʷood < 1434005495 596219 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434005979 166602 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434006157 202542 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434007172 342645 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434007514 959549 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434008087 112457 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1434008896 771763 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :kerio_is_a_boat < 1434008918 341775 :kerio_is_a_boat!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm NICK :Elronnd < 1434009091 127851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* bbc's news site also seems to think zoom means i want to look at a mobile-like page < 1434009254 54248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well only depressing news anyway. < 1434010304 676484 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434010396 891302 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434010542 870276 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bbc is crap anyway. actually, scratch that, all news is crap < 1434010602 749026 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. "" < 1434010602 924520 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a better experience on your device, try our mobile site. < 1434010615 634537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... stupid firefox. < 1434010656 464584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don < 1434010664 817075 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t see a message when I zoom < 1434010700 898359 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be they are using some HTML5 thing that my older version of firefox didn't have < 1434010785 554458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it only did what i complained about when i load the page, not if i zoom after it's loaded. < 1434010794 72471 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like detecting zoom might not be in firfox 22 < 1434010867 222270 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do collapse the "side bar" to the right at some (ridiculous) zoom level, or window width. I would see that as a feature. < 1434010895 885021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if javascript is enabled... < 1434010946 230314 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have jsenabled < 1434010961 487751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just a new html5 thing < 1434011104 496187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually without javascript, links point to pages that look very much like they're designed for mobile devices. ugh. < 1434011328 530313 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1434011479 874201 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434011526 114576 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohayou < 1434011675 384373 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434011695 309041 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434013427 687549 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434013488 371629 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434013624 214030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1434016629 15304 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a new html5 thing? < 1434016639 589286 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentely webpages can disable zooming on mobile devices < 1434016644 884597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which totally sucks < 1434016687 443133 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :<meta content='width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=0' name='viewport' / < 1434016695 462509 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a special place in hell for these peolpe < 1434016697 513036 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1434016742 103628 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Disable "disable zoom"" would be a nice browser option < 1434017685 255810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434018763 275277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find web developer and slap them" would be a better one < 1434018812 634555 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web developers deserve more. < 1434018822 754244 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more pain. < 1434018982 900788 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This irssi process has now been running for 10 days < 1434019009 629565 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps -axo comm,lstart | grep irssi < 1434019024 721470 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi Mon Jun 1 02:40:26 2015 < 1434019512 563463 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the world record for longest running server is < 1434019519 918450 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/ < 1434019581 948832 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry if it's a repost < 1434019601 748300 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit I was taken in for like a whole minute < 1434019642 246018 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1434019682 154292 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just goes to show how incomprehensible git is. < 1434020185 21517 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even educate subtrees, bro? did you skip remote stash day? < 1434020515 243201 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434020550 683194 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434020628 967132 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1434020629 460141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 111000Z 24014G24KT 10SM FEW010 OVC025 17/14 A2968 RMK SF1SC7 SLP051 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1434020879 668704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434020883 796670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :racoonspirator/A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur < 1434020889 96662 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434020889 815492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen/Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1434020899 549654 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :My git trees are always reflogged, as flogging them once isn't enough. < 1434020930 996668 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Koen_ Vis-tu toujours en haut de la Tour Eiffel, ou approximativement là, ou vraiment approximativement quelque part autour? < 1434020931 172431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434021010 832824 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434021012 238159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phở/Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1434021033 717364 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he can get a nicer Vietnamese font... < 1434021036 502887 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434021037 375487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen/Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1434021046 875109 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles HackEgo's RNG < 1434021048 412046 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434021049 56820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque/Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque) < 1434021061 286255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434021061 936358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitespace/see https://www.bing.com/search?q=whitespace < 1434021064 138681 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434021065 720452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ /The final frontier. < 1434021072 712318 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1434021110 663591 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :space. the final frontier < 1434021133 482149 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom   < 1434021134 277537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coulor/Coulor is the correct spelling. < 1434021142 446700 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?   < 1434021143 230210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  is a space, unless you're hackego and don't understand wide characters. < 1434021168 13145 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1434021311 844498 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?   < 1434021312 722454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434021340 460999 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ' ' < 1434021341 220513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​' '? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434021363 526312 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1434021364 297897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434021423 690059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1434021424 375795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434021448 612802 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even possible to name a file the empty string < 1434021459 965233 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1434021592 841977 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try and report, please. < 1434021603 217218 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2/5.0.7]apic@Ant:~> >"" < 1434021603 392777 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: < 1434021639 24500 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434021655 259659 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test >'' < 1434021656 341589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: : No such file or directory < 1434021666 320425 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2/5.0.7]{1}apic@Ant:~> strace "sh -c '>\"\"'" < 1434021666 496085 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :strace: Can't stat 'sh -c '>""'': No such file or directory < 1434021673 384592 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. < 1434021678 117938 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434021681 257158 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back to JuNetHack.net < 1434021684 816239 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: hi? what was that? < 1434021688 263997 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it would be incompatible with paths like ~/code//utils/timetotime < 1434021709 752933 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ NetHack should be nearly Turing-complete. Anybody can elaborate on that? < 1434021713 335439 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you brought forth one of your brethren? < 1434021713 510981 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: he does? < 1434021717 578321 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: he does. < 1434021718 216436 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.codu.org/ odikeh/ :) dinnertime. those were backspaces.) all qubits in fnord states have always resolved to 1, and ( in my fridge but they're rather quiet." " yeah, but < 1434021741 797128 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That was my zsh-Prompt and an epic Fail, sorry. < 1434021742 453090 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: you should ask ais523. he maintains NetHack. < 1434021752 852259 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: OKAY < 1434021755 824840 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, i know him from #NetHack et al. < 1434021768 318330 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will ask when he joins back. < 1434021815 704152 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you name a file with non-printing characters? < 1434021828 241625 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like backspace? < 1434021846 557197 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or newline? < 1434021854 508951 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1434021869 731601 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434021889 483142 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you can do it with newline < 1434021898 227732 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch ' < 1434021899 392180 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1434021903 836018 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :works < 1434021976 473228 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the only characters that can’t be in unixy filenames are '/' because separator and '\0' because end of string. < 1434022014 416208 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ':' as well maybe? < 1434022035 273158 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1434022067 406070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1434022076 699470 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit now my home directory is full of asinine named files < 1434022115 28903 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ':' on windows because 'C:' hth < 1434022125 254271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: now you know why you can't :P < 1434022166 721228 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is perfectly fine. You can also leave such a file on a FATwhatever thumbdrive, then Windows Explorer will show the : as a box. < 1434022200 157257 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HOMOGENEOUS CHICKEN < 1434022258 20608 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like touch $"\007" works. so then your terminal beeps every time you ls < 1434022284 512232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434022318 212156 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops my bash syntax is off that should be $'\007' < 1434022621 469751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yeah that appears to be correct. filenames can contain any bytes except those two it appears < 1434022683 102216 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1434022787 86006 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time i had the prescience to put them in a temporary directory < 1434023247 606021 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434023567 277192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434023689 798372 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1434023695 317293 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the can even have backspaces? < 1434023702 481110 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that rendered? < 1434023753 437967 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when ls, all control chars are replaced with ? < 1434023917 30505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Fnordy morning to you < 1434023917 254748 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what's the rationale for that? they need more of this silliness? :) i don't know squat about the language < 1434023925 822122 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I know the language. < 1434023925 997907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: but i don't < 1434023943 70628 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Shall I teach you? < 1434023943 246398 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: is that or? < 1434023965 312894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yeah, the language is called 'or'. < 1434023965 488696 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: the command to push false is ' f' < 1434024000 185210 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Exactly. To push false to the stack in 'or' you just use the f command prefixed with a space. < 1434024104 317773 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@190.38.88.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434024116 845355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot inventing an esolang? < 1434024117 88791 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i just used emacs to control source code control. objections?") and two people working on each implementation is probably quite useless with a lisp < 1434024119 521513 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@190.38.88.139 QUIT :Changing host < 1434024119 697238 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434024132 28315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we should leave it alone to write the interp < 1434024160 963966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is tyring to learn a language called or. < 1434024234 334758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, we only now so far that ' f' pushes false to the stack. < 1434024269 482036 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*know < 1434024550 685124 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added a few palettes for game boy games to my repstry. < 1434024560 593325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add this esolang to esolangs.org < 1434024568 365233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki, that is < 1434024588 937007 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good < 1434024754 345459 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will mostly be impossible to prove turing complete until more is known . < 1434024846 27704 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1434025646 876231 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm. "Have you brought Forth one of your brethren?" < 1434025698 137775 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-piqrccxccfyjkklq JOIN :#esoteric < 1434025752 550840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you working on your own esolang? < 1434025752 913858 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: even if there are many variations and i do plan on waiting for that website for my entire language on., they're trying to cut down on the floor < 1434025766 932489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! so it's not exponential decay < 1434026296 420424 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434026459 207881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434027237 184975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434027432 787635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay chocolate < 1434027599 944994 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^style irc is getting pretty meta. < 1434027709 637787 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434027719 822919 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434027719 998481 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434028481 940995 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434028898 955896 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434028918 801198 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434029053 990609 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the legend that was Friendship Mouse < 1434029074 834606 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434029091 916236 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there are two quotes about self-face-punching < 1434029101 786944 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote punch.* myself < 1434029102 624281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :401) <Taneb> Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once. \ 612) <elliott> ais523: I pronounce "xor" by punching myself in the face and then "or" < 1434029211 246292 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it is time to listen to someone talking about a language that is a little like Eodermdrome! Or possibly something else < 1434029216 132393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case I am going away now < 1434029447 581591 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434030137 535102 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, it *would* be nice for the emulator to interpolate scrolling backgrounds to increase the effective frame rate but I cant' figure out where in the code I would do such thing < 1434030211 37153 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could do it somewhere above the gpu emulation but that seems unsanitary < 1434030306 975032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what interpreter? < 1434030319 412271 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mednafen < 1434030323 515401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434030475 867260 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the idea would be, if the bg is scrolling at 1pix/8frames and we are operating at 4x scale, we could interpolate to scroll at an effective 1pix/2frames on the real screen < 1434030543 328360 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the problem is, the scaling happens after the gpu emulation, so we would have to store say the last 10 frames and check whether it is scrolling < 1434030631 555919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :while if the scaling was BEFORE the gpu composites the sprite and background layers, then it would be way easier < 1434030727 355990 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll try to do the after-compositing idea by storing previous frames. it will be fucking slow, but hey, game boy emulation is pretty fast < 1434030863 265205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Or14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43203 5* 03160.85.232.173 5* (+1256) 10or - the dubious language < 1434031121 152786 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok so what I'mma do is, for each block of say 5x5 pixels, check if any of say the last 10 previous frames exactly matches it, one pixel up, left, right or down. if it does, then we also check if any frame before that has the same pattern one more pixel in the same direction. that will give us the scroll rate,and if we store previous rendered version we then copy it, scrolled by the interpolated subpixel amount, into the block. < 1434031165 31283 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :overall then, 20 frames of previous data need to be stored < 1434031232 834999 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that sound good? or does it sound like complete madness < 1434031330 811064 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be glitches at the border between scrolling and stationary objects or objects scrolling in different directions < 1434031368 530885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1434031376 945200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434031394 717453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's raining < 1434031400 251853 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434031565 896250 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434031652 341415 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a fully rendered and scaled frame from a game boy is 1.5 MB, therefore 20 frames (1/3 of a second) is 29 MB of ram < 1434031689 409601 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much RAM did a regular gameboy have? < 1434031708 796815 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 kb < 1434031709 965059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? isn't it a 256x212 pixel with 4 levels of grayscale? < 1434031722 672714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be 1.5 MB? < 1434031729 373358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it's made of tiles and sprites < 1434031772 905921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434031784 279314 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :160x144*(4bytes color)*(4*4 scaled) = 1441474560 < 1434031794 124207 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :160x144*(4bytes color)*(4*4 scaled) = 1474560 < 1434031836 893807 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll instead store some sort of hash for easier comparison < 1434031900 857402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 levels of grayscale < 1434031903 786383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 4 bytes color < 1434031927 752113 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the coloring also happens before I can get to is < 1434031941 417043 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want palets to work with it < 1434031965 177587 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, it's fuck < 1434031976 842003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :store just the map, the offsets, sprite pics and locations, and the map tile pictures when they change. < 1434031992 883037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, what generation game boy is this? < 1434032025 598866 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1434032038 469312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you live compress it with some fast algorithm? tiles compress well < 1434032045 93070 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the part of the code I understand and know how to modify happens after the sprites are baked into the frame. so yeah < 1434032051 929289 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably do that < 1434032083 154100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also try two-level compression, first compress quickly as you run the game, then later recompress < 1434032120 275279 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then decompress when I'm interpolating? < 1434032133 837179 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434032180 93947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's only worth if you want to watch playing of the game live to see it goes well, or want to interact with it < 1434032188 555155 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a fixed known good emulation, then don't bother < 1434032196 540667 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then compress it in one phase < 1434032324 14223 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good fast hashing scheme? < 1434032399 683116 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fast on X86, that is) < 1434032443 388586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: and VRAM? < 1434032465 555885 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 kb < 1434032481 53615 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that for the gameboy monochrome? < 1434032483 351773 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the colour one? < 1434032501 298003 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :color < 1434032509 511483 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1434032510 661428 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1434032528 448306 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monochrome is 8kb < 1434032636 527068 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it, I'll just do some stupid simple rotate-xor thing < 1434032672 137294 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434032716 352733 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the 9 pixels around, rotate each one by its position from 1-9, xor them all together into a 32 bit unsigned < 1434032734 928643 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ughta do it < 1434032768 328284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: or use multiplication too < 1434032780 661868 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that would work better < 1434032790 931352 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :colors tend to have repetitive bits < 1434032852 738553 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply each color by a 8 bit prime, xor them together < 1434032864 712963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply each 16 bit word with some nice number, taking the low or high bits of the result, whichever you choose, but the high bits only if you multiply by a number, different for each word so that shifted pics differ, and add them together < 1434032972 434728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe log how many collisions you get to find out if it's a good algorithm or not < 1434033010 96078 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434033015 584761 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we get collisions the screen will look... horribly wrong i think < 1434033251 841992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you always get some collisions < 1434033259 214294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally < 1434033279 825199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to do a proper hash table lookup too, not just a hash function < 1434033300 64997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just _too many collisions_ that you should avoid < 1434033361 139769 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you hashing for? < 1434033367 50737 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm really nooby in computer graphics) < 1434033389 803748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To allow easy detection of when a 5x5 pixel area matches a previous frame's shifted. < 1434033409 634313 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 3x3 or whatever I decide < 1434033439 413229 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shifted what? < 1434033449 372841 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shifted area < 1434033539 904269 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, if the current frame locally looks like the frame 5 frames ago, except moved 1 pixel left, and the frame 10 frames ago is shifted 2 pixels, we want to interpolate so that the frames move smoothly < 1434033550 746808 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in realtime < 1434033560 586107 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of emulating a game boy < 1434033593 535060 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dynamically, intelligently scaling the screen up so each pixel becomes 16 < 1434033598 545168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to do it in real time? < 1434033608 777329 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah it's an emulator < 1434033614 252795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434033646 197247 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I program for the same reason I play games, because they're HARD! < 1434033684 754961 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1434033696 546527 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :rout < 1434033698 793908 :rout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1434033803 560622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I still say you should try to access the map and sprite data, or at least parts of it, from the emulator directly < 1434033807 736422 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually technically, I think the colors don't have an alpha channel. So I could store 3 bytes per color instead < 1434033837 892203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no no no, figure out the palette first, isn't it always small on any one frame? < 1434033853 154846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :convert to an indexed image < 1434033861 778667 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to try to make the indexes consistent between pictures < 1434033868 146698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get the palette directly from the emulator < 1434033884 37776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tiles or sprites are not true color, right? < 1434033889 957582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all paletted < 1434033905 934144 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on color game boy i think its' 15 bit color < 1434033912 975743 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1434033917 253104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 bit color? < 1434033920 827710 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they do that? < 1434033924 922474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's such a waste < 1434033943 632412 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1434034008 20377 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, they are limited to 56 colors per scanline < 1434034049 363987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's better < 1434034050 302379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes no sense, how do scanlines exist on an LCD anyway? < 1434034068 527792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: because the cpu can in theory change the palette between scan lines < 1434034088 424552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any time really, but the graphics chip reacts slowly) < 1434034105 784495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chipset rendering the video still has to process in scan lines < 1434034109 767881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's no cathode ray < 1434034124 585342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very likely the palette changes rarely < 1434034132 171480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only at most once a frame < 1434034194 157800 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'll get to writing code, and if it is too slow (on this crap computer which is a good basement, being less powerful than a typical smartphone tthese days) < 1434034201 417736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a few old video chips have per-block things to save on VRAM. < 1434034207 817542 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i'll opytimize < 1434034278 430379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously I'll leave in a #define to turn off/on this shit < 1434034405 46291 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back < 1434034431 147960 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an interesting talk, about GP 2 < 1434034445 148644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a language that is a bit like Eodermdrome, in that it is a graph programming language) < 1434034447 463923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure at least some of the C64 graphics modes have "native" 8x8 blocks where you can have 4 different colors out of a palette of 16 in each block (some details omitted here), and people turn that into 8x1 blocks by doing work for each scanline. < 1434034498 65953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that character mode with 2 bit per pixel deep fonts? < 1434034511 299679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they do work for each scanline? really? < 1434034525 582508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they just use a 1 pixel high font because there's enough RAM for that? < 1434034578 120213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I recall (it's been quite a while since I last fiddled with this), the "normal" multicolor modes have nothing to do with CHARGEN. < 1434034637 72890 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434034646 505029 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifdef MUHUHAHAHA < 1434034658 474015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#else < 1434034659 360063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.studiostyle.sk/dmagic/gallery/gfxmodes.htm "MultiColor mode generates the screen with resolution 160*200 pixels/16 colors. -- The screen is divided into 40*25 attribute cells. Each attribute cell is 4*8 pixel big. -- In this mode you can use maximum 4 colors in the attribute cell. Each pixel defined by 2 bites can have one of 4 different colors. One of colors is the background color." < 1434034673 555509 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(#elsif Perl Comment) < 1434034719 94535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's just two-bits-per-pixel graphics mode (hence the horizontal resolution is halved), and the two bits select out of a color palette, and the attribute cells (which are also used for text mode) can be set to select the per-cell colors for that 4x8 (or 8x8 "real" pixels) cell. < 1434034747 40119 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434034781 149488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434034797 710891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not made of characters < 1434034842 301795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. The VIC-20 screen is "text mode" only, I think. < 1434034864 723863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_console_palettes#Game_Boy_Color also refers to "mode 3 mid-scanline rendering", claiming that people swap palettes for the GBC even during a scanline. < 1434034945 919372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but do the games really do that every scanline, or just like a few times per frame at most? < 1434034951 839985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if they did it every scanline < 1434034974 845334 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the original Super Mario Land be glitched? < 1434034975 82488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no citations, so I'unno. Probably not. < 1434034994 97483 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a graph language which operates on an undirected graph of the same power as a similar graph language operating on a directed graph? < 1434035004 728967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wouldn't be surprised if you could find GBC demos that did it quite often when showing a static image for a while. < 1434035014 610099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: slightly, yes, but there's no really game-breaking glitch < 1434035035 620785 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1434035061 367772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: there's a glitch that lets mario teleport from the left edge of the screen to the right edge sometimes in autoscroller levels, which allows completing 2-3 quicker < 1434035076 106609 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1434035082 832937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: and there's some cases when collision detection lets mario apparently pass through enemies and such things < 1434035090 166087 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1434035112 710692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing that really breaks the game like many other games have < 1434035124 587276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1434035166 283596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: it's passing through the carnivorous flowers that looks especially strange to me < 1434035173 660498 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434035182 700565 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a Video-Link? < 1434035227 559648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: http://tasvideos.org/2091M.html < 1434035230 484924 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1434035236 713686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the hard mode which it links to) < 1434035270 599530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: in theory, it's possible that it can be glitched by tasers haven't found a way yet, but it's not very likely < 1434035280 654390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty well studied game < 1434035313 238944 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1434035316 121875 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figures. < 1434035888 187230 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that it is possible to translate graph programs operating on a directed graph to graph programs operating on an undirected graph < 1434036169 141451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure. translate the directed graph to a graph with Y's where the prongs of the y are connected to the source and the bottom is connected to the destination. < 1434036193 145716 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that might be ambiguous < 1434036284 56919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach edge from A to B, create nodes C,D,E and edges AC, AD, CE,DE, EB < 1434036383 382331 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully that is less ambigious < 1434036437 772839 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that work? < 1434036465 413694 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1434036469 544624 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Flower-Thingy owns! < 1434036905 981667 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'o' - ord 'g' < 1434036911 324022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1434036961 435965 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((-) `on` ord) 'o' 'g' < 1434036966 371539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1434037077 496913 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr (ord 'o' + 8) < 1434037081 295854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'w' < 1434037090 271903 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr (ord 'w' + 8) < 1434037097 993204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\DEL' < 1434037106 44705 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr (ord '\DEL' + 8) < 1434037112 199445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1434037118 141019 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1434037160 761791 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it... ran out of time? how is that the error, ratehr than "there is no character with that number" < 1434037202 841080 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr (ord '\DEL' + 8) < 1434037212 70892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\135' < 1434037217 116844 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434037244 53627 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 0xffc4 < 1434037248 432038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\65476' < 1434037255 176648 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1434037329 762287 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1434037332 566150 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t char < 1434037336 182144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char -> Doc < 1434037338 711450 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 0xff21 < 1434037345 984534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\65313' < 1434037349 701277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1434037350 485413 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> char $ chr 0xffc4 < 1434037355 626802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ᅣ < 1434037360 478351 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> char $ chr 0xff21 < 1434037365 375871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : A < 1434037384 502626 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxBound :: Char < 1434037388 966002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\1114111' < 1434037421 960075 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFC4 is a halfwidth hangul < 1434037433 779650 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> char $ chr 0x2615 < 1434037440 375724 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ☕ < 1434037446 241211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have halfwidth hanguls? < 1434037451 195905 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1434037452 486401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck are those used for? < 1434037457 211210 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fow korean < 1434037466 264722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um… but halfwidth? < 1434037477 486208 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for when you can't handle fullwidth < 1434037488 300567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1434037572 832072 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1111111111111111111111111111 + 1111111111111111111111111111 < 1434037577 110495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1434037591 391723 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is currently inebriated. < 1434037592 466192 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :セーム リーソン ウィ ハブ ハーフ ウィズト カタカナ < 1434037614 825012 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't hangul < 1434037663 225723 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's ウィ < 1434037667 401716 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wi < 1434037673 414251 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ウ < 1434037674 27776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF73 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA LETTER U] < 1434037693 120353 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought wi was written as W-small-i < 1434037699 401106 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wa-smalli < 1434037702 438775 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, and I did < 1434037708 304717 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1434037715 449874 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :U-smalli < 1434037728 879322 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I can't trust anything you write < 1434037774 227263 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also the old kana ヰ but there is no halfwidth of that < 1434037804 157171 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: where did you learn Japanese? < 1434037860 570019 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a course in my first summer of university, and then I went to Japan to attend an intensive course at a school in Tokyo < 1434037886 172436 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I kept it up my reading manga and watching anime < 1434037897 260125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I think halfwidth kana were used on systems like VGA text mode that can display a 256 or 512 character font with only 8 or 9 or 12 wide character cells < 1434037909 771028 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1434037917 964248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they can be displayed mixed with latin letters < 1434037918 633550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for hangul then < 1434037926 783225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see how hangul would be used that way < 1434037950 322303 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you just decompose the blocks into the jamo < 1434037958 229946 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then write them in order < 1434038000 830206 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something? Some of these ones have multiple jamo in one bloakc < 1434038011 956888 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hangul are cool < 1434038039 26790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… maybe < 1434038047 320325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a bit ugly < 1434038230 195744 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kana do something similar in that the handakuten ゚ and dakuten ゙ are separate characters rather than on the kana < 1434038313 445046 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why the spacing of for example ゴンドラ si weird < 1434038381 492995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in regular it would be ゴンドラ < 1434038458 202918 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a sed command in the neural net output that I'm pretty sure it just memorized. Lemme test it out. < 1434038468 969354 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo spaghetti | sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1434038469 609615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 31: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1434038503 955339 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not? < 1434038517 944290 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an extended regex < 1434038531 462579 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make it work? < 1434038533 993418 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed by default requires \(\) < 1434038543 941365 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo spaghetti | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1434038544 787513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaghetti < 1434038586 51669 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the regex didn't match for some reason? < 1434038595 914928 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\+ < 1434038602 753539 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo spaghetti | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]\+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1434038603 358010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaghetti shmaghetti < 1434038607 661463 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1434038624 465689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There must be some option you can give sed that makes it treat those as magic. < 1434038678 646323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -Ee 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' <<<progress < 1434038682 280128 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -Ee 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' <<<progress < 1434038682 986015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress shmogress < 1434038959 369279 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434038988 405232 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -Ee 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < wisdom/reflection < 1434038989 52035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed.-Ee.s/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/. shmed.-Ee.s/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/. < 1434039138 628493 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -Ee 's/[^a-z]//g' wisdom/reflection < 1434039139 294590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedesazgwisdomreflection < 1434039148 843915 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wise. < 1434039692 738447 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that gw again < 1434039700 836452 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gwisdom < 1434039834 195832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Or14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43204 5* 03OriginalOldMan 5* (+356) 10Created page with "Here is an interpreter in Ruby for the so far known parts of Or: <pre> program = File.open(ARGV[0],"r").read i = 0 stack = [] while i < program.length if program[i] == " " ..." < 1434039953 290182 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxJVH5TZQFY would play < 1434040417 711948 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1434041143 680189 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434041361 315770 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should there be a category on the wiki for Fancy L-complete languages? < 1434041894 134097 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434041981 430094 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434041987 397342 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jump crosses initialization" FUCK YOU GCC < 1434042054 967978 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as if I ACESS the goddamn thing < 1434042285 505469 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1434042411 803184 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434043909 554385 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCESSS!!!! < 1434043925 689554 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YES! it scrolls pixel by pixel! < 1434043954 932675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Quit: brb < 1434043955 862789 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUHUHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA < 1434044005 494337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434044006 263354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads/Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1434044014 57494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434044014 739829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite/Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1434044057 440700 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on getting a scren shot < 1434044256 578563 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434044400 591583 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/06/11/5579c84856dd6.jpg < 1434044438 572455 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look closely you can see that the bg is 1/2 pixel down compared to the spaceship < 1434044462 570451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it scrolls lovelily. < 1434044548 299564 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some flickering whenever a nearby non-background object impinges < 1434044593 678507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but overall it looks great. maybe I'll take a look later at fixing the flickering somehow < 1434044807 957663 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/orenwatson/oren4x/commit/4552012637e4cf8c40f4111b387a2862ca3e8fac < 1434044906 406577 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434045017 312041 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm my code isn't right < 1434045315 540121 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1434045423 668203 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! now it's right. < 1434045453 277325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but makybe I should store several hashes, of greater and greater area around the pixel. < 1434045517 458912 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :first + then □ then a bigger ○ and then a bigger square < 1434045780 461625 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do that after lunch < 1434045813 589679 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:3585:1b4e:15ef:cbf1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434046445 733935 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434046782 362957 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, apparently mednafen has an irc channel < 1434046881 791322 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1434046904 464427 :lawspeaker!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1434047091 590622 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :hvidiecat < 1434047099 639356 :hvidiecat!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1434047171 658217 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :quick-brown-fox < 1434047180 160200 :quick-brown-fox!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1434047394 332306 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434047614 795474 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iraugemjhfrvfubg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434048943 434321 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434049538 495846 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434049665 797464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434049871 84920 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434050197 476256 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434050380 488016 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1434051644 9189 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434052168 98016 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cjdhvsgjycqvigri JOIN :#esoteric < 1434052329 473528 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434053319 361977 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cjdhvsgjycqvigri QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434053337 265447 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liygijnygiukwjje PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you write tests kirill < 1434053351 214728 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liygijnygiukwjje JOIN :#esoteric < 1434053351 773759 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liygijnygiukwjje QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434053411 760375 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-sndcfgfqsrcjnrxa JOIN :#esoteric < 1434054063 675169 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434055041 145688 :notfowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-sndcfgfqsrcjnrxa QUIT :Quit: zz < 1434055078 384187 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1434055078 560001 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1434055078 560041 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tudxmldwasyelifs JOIN :#esoteric < 1434055634 18031 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434056360 320147 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434056473 210031 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434056478 464958 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434057868 285284 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434058041 655355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, what desktop environment is that? < 1434058288 425788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434058417 1865 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :puppy linux JWM < 1434059151 704674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434060047 340985 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434060056 802199 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian PRIVMSG #esoteric :blessings to all < 1434060486 338828 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434060488 574250 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1434060491 331104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434060832 70844 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to work with the JWM guy. < 1434061489 809090 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1434061497 697175 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1434062062 981583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still love that quartic-time fizzbuzz I wrote < 1434062065 708731 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so bad < 1434062193 491536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell APic <APic> I _think_ NetHack should be nearly Turing-complete. Anybody can elaborate on that? <-- i'm pretty sure that's ais523's job hth < 1434062193 667200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434062247 112450 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:3585:1b4e:15ef:cbf1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434062367 965212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily <boily> APic: you should ask ais523. he maintains NetHack. <-- nethack 4. it is unwise to confuse the various variants hth < 1434062368 180343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434062512 650695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "\n" < 1434062513 356718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\n < 1434062634 249082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oren> whoops my bash syntax is off that should be $'\007' <-- ooh < 1434062647 319134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ehoc $'\n' < 1434062647 803461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ehoc: command not found < 1434062652 505282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'\n' < 1434062653 384023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434062865 97594 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434064261 612394 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434065255 453498 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'\x02Hello\x0F world' < 1434065256 92175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Hello world < 1434065587 318421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434065588 230524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl/nooodl is the correct spelling < 1434065595 51852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1434065619 389585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1434065620 117387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/"; cat "$F" < 1434065642 120162 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434065747 100042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl' > bin/wisdom < 1434065751 246374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434065798 742230 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. upgrading noooodl? < 1434065804 612725 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434065804 788264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 57m 16s ago: <boily> APic: you should ask ais523. he maintains NetHack. <-- nethack 4. it is unwise to confuse the various variants hth < 1434065827 101168 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. sorry, I won't noobmistake the nethackvariants again. < 1434065827 872909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :upgroooooooodl < 1434065838 883614 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask nooodl where are you? < 1434065839 59395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434065845 395874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm upgrading wisdom. < 1434065859 206213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering putting wisdom straight into bin/? < 1434065885 863569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's a pretty foundational script. < 1434065893 713989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAA < 1434065908 413979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :halloily < 1434065912 41876 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH *mapole* AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1434065990 239855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/\? < 1434065991 495669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 4531:7f957c1f4661 \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun Mar 16 01:52:15 2014 +0000 \ summary: <oerjan> revert \ \ changeset: 4530:03afb1619ef2 \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun Mar 16 01:51:13 2014 +0000 \ summary: <elliott> revert 1 \ \ changeset: 4288:abb75d738ee1 \ user: HackBot \ date: Tue Ja < 1434066062 513908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: isn't the mapole the national tree of canada < 1434066100 392289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "mapole" comes from "maple" < 1434066101 478870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#scow < 1434066109 428774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1434066110 358093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1434066114 2576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow scow scow < 1434066207 311719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434066208 100868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm/An ATM is when you're withdrawing money right now at a machine that will steal your relevant info < 1434066214 727727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Google Translate, a scow is a "wide-beamed sailing dinghy". < 1434066242 45385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434066244 172670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m&ndash;rdalsj&ouml;kull/M&ndash;rdalsj&ouml;kull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base. < 1434066261 245663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434066262 278583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :onëliner/onëliners are pairs of unfathomable vectors in the category of exponential distance. < 1434066270 559416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434066271 437662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspatsjo/gaspatsjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days < 1434066386 316924 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now, I have some Enya stuck in my head. < 1434066663 93616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '\''{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'\'' | xargs' > bin/culprits; chmod +x bin/culprits < 1434066664 810698 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434066668 617818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/mapole < 1434066669 490903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan boily boily < 1434066691 459162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/canada < 1434066692 229178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1434066698 835174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/Tanventions < 1434066700 33247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434066704 250149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tanvention < 1434066705 976809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1434066706 152582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434066712 177849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tanebvention < 1434066713 349419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Taneb oerjan oerjan oerjan FireFly oerjan boily oerjan oerjan < 1434066761 344157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/? < 1434066762 456706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott shachaf oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan nooodl Roujo nooodl__ shachaf oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Jafet elliott FreeFull oerjan nitia < 1434066771 370236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess pinging people like that isn't very polite. < 1434066818 853022 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434066819 478736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | xargs < 1434066821 807675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, y'all < 1434066841 598398 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could insert zero-width spaces after the first character in each nick < 1434066845 319817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also consider uniq < 1434066872 18077 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1434066894 25099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like seeing the full history. < 1434066907 483261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might be more useful with uniq. < 1434066910 811255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :patches welcome hth < 1434066926 129740 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I see, the first culprit in time is the last in the list? < 1434066934 697084 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who's nitia?) < 1434066942 557600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, same as hg log. < 1434066957 872970 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Roujo quand est-ce que ça te dirait de revenir dans le chännel une fois, juste de même, sans pression? < 1434066958 48634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434066975 387751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434066976 380599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1434066992 868424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you realize you share another channel with him, right? < 1434066993 492822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that the le/rn trick could be used for creating arbitrary files. < 1434066998 923508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even chmodding them +x and so on. < 1434067024 615627 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uuuuuuuuuuuuh... >_>'... < 1434067032 192046 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1434067092 458437 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -ri 's,xargs,sed "s/./&\xE2\x80\x8B/" | &,' bin/culprits < 1434067094 119699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067098 817252 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434067103 92580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs​ireFly xargs​hachaf < 1434067108 871199 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434067138 420900 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -ri 's,xargs,sed "s/./\&\xE2\x80\x8B/" | &,' bin/culprits < 1434067142 518452 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1434067146 509463 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434067147 917850 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067152 657832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434067160 112796 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xarshachaf. he he he :D < 1434067176 162679 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434067176 883964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/./xargs​/" | xargs < 1434067179 905329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph that message again < 1434067186 394134 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits pineapple < 1434067188 123109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067191 604797 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1434067200 443795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/xargs/\&/' bin/culprits < 1434067202 812666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067207 459484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits culprits < 1434067208 640392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067212 429279 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434067213 375223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly s​hachaf < 1434067232 531758 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now with less pings < 1434067234 201528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r canary; echo toot >canary < 1434067236 433761 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067240 736371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1434067241 219493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toot < 1434067249 559670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Those characters really really mess up my terminal. < 1434067258 528871 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1434067261 657676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you just put ^O in instead? < 1434067264 491017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a UTF-8-encoded zero-width space < 1434067291 543354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1434067293 606895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1434067299 678641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about that one? < 1434067310 875200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think all non-ASCII channels mess up my terminal. < 1434067314 885071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is awful to be in. < 1434067324 112865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i meant that command specifically < 1434067328 712972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately my computer at home doesn't have that problem. < 1434067334 541766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that command too. < 1434067339 562283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1434067351 865833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i declare you unfit to complain hth < 1434067353 244745 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/&[^/]*/\&\\x0F/' bin/culprits < 1434067355 200873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434067359 107876 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434067359 661675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/./&\x0F/" | xargs < 1434067365 902561 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434067366 748345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1434067373 156715 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that did not work well < 1434067410 539832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't? < 1434067415 554459 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It pinged me < 1434067417 885061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell because I have a hilight on chaf\b < 1434067428 107778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahachaf < 1434067456 994651 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why it didn't work, though < 1434067466 613849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a kind of bad fizzbuzz again < 1434067467 235103 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gCFe?c < 1434067468 111944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you have a hilight on ireFly\b? < 1434067477 365233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, as far as I know < 1434067479 323559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits bin/culprits | xxd < 1434067480 254771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 460f 6972 6546 6c79 2046 0f69 7265 466c F.ireFly F.ireFl \ 0000010: 7920 460f 6972 6546 6c79 2046 0f69 7265 y F.ireFly F.ire \ 0000020: 466c 7920 460f 6972 6546 6c79 2073 0f68 Fly F.ireFly s.h \ 0000030: 6163 6861 660a achaf. < 1434067480 903808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should < 1434067511 482495 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe weechat strips formatting when checking for highlights or something < 1434067514 442635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this ping you? FireFly < 1434067518 213058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434067527 202836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1434067533 457278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole point of ^O is to avoid that. < 1434067539 895112 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: when you play riichi, what yaku do you normally play with? < 1434067548 128611 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the usual point of ^O is to reset formatting hth < 1434067582 483524 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro! < 1434067626 531802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about FireFl0y? < 1434067632 860144 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still highlights < 1434067665 353489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originally I was going to make culprits rot13 < 1434067676 151902 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works, too < 1434067680 586816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I remembered that I have my rot13ed nick on hilight too. < 1434067693 972200 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only puns, or the whole funpuns? < 1434067694 833262 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if people want to talk about fun puns? < 1434067729 310047 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey! < 1434067738 342550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/firefly < 1434067739 179648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike FreeFull Tanea < 1434067749 806512 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea was me I think < 1434067751 514107 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: actually, you too. do you care much about variations in riichi? < 1434067753 118160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got decremented < 1434067754 638537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/taneb < 1434067755 906061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb oerjan oerjan elliott shachaf boily oerjan ais523 ais523 shachaf elliott FreeFull shachaf shachaf oerjan oerjan FreeFull oerjan Taneb nitia < 1434067761 657176 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1434067763 376007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1434067764 13806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1434067782 415722 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Tanec < 1434067786 263357 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/Tane* < 1434067787 243212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/Tane*: No such file or directory < 1434067794 413433 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/tane* < 1434067795 412288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanea \ wisdom/taneb \ wisdom/tanebvention < 1434067799 877759 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanea < 1434067800 53570 :Tanec!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1434067800 760879 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1434067867 709736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/boily < 1434067869 99027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Jafet oerjan oerjan boily oerjan boily Roujo boily Bike FreeFull ais523 boily oerjan < 1434067880 439129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this pinging people other than FireFly? I can't tell. < 1434067885 553247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> Is a graph language which operates on an undirected graph of the same power as a similar graph language operating on a directed graph? <-- pretty sure you can reencode the directedness in something undirected? < 1434067958 350603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not pinged hth < 1434067973 236565 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I like kuitan and kuikae. I don't care much about other variations, although I tend to find yakitori a little bit too stressful. < 1434068007 928306 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION maplings oerjan < 1434068019 697361 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do you have any preferences? < 1434068021 191034 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually played with yakitori, but I can't imagine liking it < 1434068025 849007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it hasn't been pinging me < 1434068032 428638 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that was my conclusion < 1434068088 141538 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: also, agariyame. quite the saviour when it's the last game of the day and everybody's hungry. < 1434068096 773209 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1434068103 703230 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have mixed feelings about agariyame < 1434068107 134621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually it pings me in the logs because i search for rjan tdnh < 1434068143 384326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how did you manage to logread between then and now twh < 1434068162 474561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Can you change it to put the ^O one character before last? < 1434068167 259044 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, it makes the already-envious position of last dealer even better. on the other, being in a situation where you actively want to avoid winning is very weird < 1434068181 526654 :OriginalOldMan!4c79b164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.121.177.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434068185 244619 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yeah, there are good arguments on both side of the issue. but collective empty stomachs are an emergency by themselves. < 1434068186 255226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i didn't, i realized the issue and checked < 1434068232 2493 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :being dealer in orasu is just so good < 1434068252 176741 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in a game where the points spread isn't too tight or too wide < 1434068293 528928 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434068294 135146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/./&\x0F/" | xargs < 1434068317 840850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* boily maplings oerjan <-- that didn't actually ping me either, i think the highlight is just on the first word or something. < 1434068365 594092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case i've never paid that much attention to in-irssi ping coloring (and i've avoided actual beeping with a passion) < 1434068380 954008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa < 1434068384 265215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you use xchat? < 1434068385 197324 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beeps oerjan, then < 1434068392 545183 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weechat is the way to go hth < 1434068396 56208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1434068405 795639 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -ri 's,sed "[^"]*",sed "s/.$/\\x0F\&/",' < 1434068406 553467 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1434068411 724428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -ri 's,sed "[^"]*",sed "s/.$/\\x0F\&/",' bin/culprits < 1434068413 799138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been thinking of someone else < 1434068413 974762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434068418 372397 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434068418 952339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434068429 855231 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be fine I think < 1434068443 761057 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434068444 900322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1434068512 961276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` touch hug; hg add hug; hg commit -m hug hug; rm hug < 1434068513 994859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: could not lock working directory of /hackenv: Read-only file system \ abort: could not lock working directory of /hackenv: Read-only file system < 1434068519 681796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1434068598 169744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: um i think it's important to do _both_ at the beginning and end of words. consider _ suffixes. < 1434068600 94298 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:3585:1b4e:15ef:cbf1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434068606 640694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to do it < 1434068618 126461 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to add the other one, too < 1434068664 897959 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you guys play with daisharin right? < 1434068762 52776 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yup. Seven Heavenly Pairs we call them, with 22 over to 88 in the same suit. < 1434068779 197965 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: has it ever happened? < 1434068785 293809 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :our club is new, no yakuman yet < 1434068801 368698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict, this one never happened. < 1434068826 81428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*ping* < 1434068826 994503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ping < 1434068829 248920 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a few yakumans happen over the years. I managed suuankou and four small winds ^^ < 1434068833 853462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ping < 1434068834 597565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ echo pong < 1434068847 859636 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arcturus.su/wiki/User:Coppro summarizes everything interesting I've done < 1434068850 992265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If I changed it from le/rn to le//rn would y'all object? < 1434068875 20437 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the first hand there :( I got the wrong winning tile < 1434068906 996520 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the most egregiously outrageous yakuman that ever happened here was suuankou and all green, while oya. < 1434068923 692248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not sure if we should encourage making subdirectories nilly-willy < 1434068945 973943 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: jeez! < 1434068948 360348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I want to make a general-purpose program to make files now. < 1434068959 654047 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we've had some silliness in 3-man < 1434068960 345960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of this echo '...'\''...' > ... thing. < 1434068962 886346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one tricky part is that having dir/file prevents having `? dir itself < 1434068978 769387 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: one game, a player dealt into kazoe yakuman... he wasn't defending because he was tenpai for daisangen < 1434068978 952890 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ha ha! < 1434068989 257130 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? Ō_Ō < 1434069007 552930 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's 3-man. this shit happens < 1434069013 213426 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. but still! < 1434069029 652307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok well feel free, although maybe we should have both. < 1434069060 248674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I was thinking that le//rn = ma/ke "wisdom/$1" < 1434069080 295474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :consistency is all i ask / give us this day our daily mask < 1434069091 241500 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434069107 503922 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we have a corner case covered in our rules that if the dealer tenhous a yakuman that upgrades to double based on the wait, they score that double, plus tenhou makes triple. If that ever happens, I'll eat my junk mat. < 1434069127 351292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even have a version that auto-chmod+xs. < 1434069132 329455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think how fancy that would be. < 1434069242 940089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh you want a command that works for bin/ scripts too? but then you'll still have \n problems... < 1434069254 181275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true < 1434069257 901978 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's a corner case, therefore likely to happen, according to the Universe Perversion Maximisation Law. < 1434069269 393126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :although bash scripts don't actually need newlines < 1434069304 984282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it so that if you try to access "dir/file" but "dir" is a directory then it will read "dir/.default" that is another way to do < 1434069305 316877 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: riichi seems to really obey that law < 1434069351 759543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But what if you try to access dir/.default? < 1434069375 4013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it still working, I suppose < 1434069381 657673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434069382 700468 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot/blsqbot is the owner of the bot 'mroman'. < 1434069385 266677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just same thing then. < 1434069566 117802 :mushroom!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434069607 656677 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome mushroom < 1434069608 566946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04mushroom: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13<http://esolangs.org/>. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1434069640 194082 :mushroom!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/culprits is a program that names those responsible for a wisdom entry. < 1434069642 432110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434069686 753033 :mushroom!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/wisdom entry/file/' wisdom/culprit < 1434069688 839754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434069691 915941 :mushroom!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com NICK :badger < 1434069696 402998 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434069698 617620 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1434069698 793413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434069713 326235 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushachadgeroom. < 1434069765 245024 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's#$# Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY#' wisdom/culprit < 1434069767 621018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434069768 68600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, i thought making canary no longer a directory would fix that message :( < 1434069773 456771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1434069774 83962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toot < 1434069783 825821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l canary.orig < 1434069784 416962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1434069787 973272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``ls -l canary.orig < 1434069788 602386 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ls: not found < 1434069791 238225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary.orig < 1434069791 832429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access canary.orig: No such file or directory < 1434069794 35978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1434069825 2104 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434069829 135235 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/culprits/`culprits`' wisdom/culprit < 1434069829 684581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 21: unterminated `s' command < 1434069836 677486 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/culprits/`culprits`/' wisdom/culprit < 1434069838 534705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434069893 961352 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/names those/lists the people/' wisdom/culprit < 1434069896 93591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434069902 773205 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/people/lists the nicks/' wisdom/culprit < 1434069904 837360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434069944 696035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll leave room for some badgers to do further editing < 1434069956 235111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor `revert gives strange messages about canary.orig, i think we've played to much with the canary file (it was a directory, but is no longer) < 1434069956 410610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434069958 539629 :badger!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: snaaaaake < 1434070007 430733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1434070008 321710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070030 161611 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1434070064 463368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1434070093 375699 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA HA HA! < 1434070126 376454 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070128 871217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1243) <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070154 589249 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you have to add the context! < 1434070159 237477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1434070160 250516 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434070160 813359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434070162 653790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with five badgers like that < 1434070166 376275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add three more first < 1434070177 114552 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you need twelve, no? < 1434070177 904193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will end well. < 1434070188 363723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: a multiple of four is enough hth < 1434070234 202912 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: context? < 1434070234 712591 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:8:b080:d18:3585:1b4e:15ef:cbf1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434070239 684595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :badger < 1434070246 907988 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch bin/culprits < 1434070247 547718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434070257 154086 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger: the `culprits < 1434070264 579564 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch wisdom/culprit < 1434070265 275560 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434070271 110502 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits culprit < 1434070274 395881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434070284 550773 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1434070285 715822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070312 312426 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprit < 1434070312 927145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434070327 730310 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434070328 647207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070329 914412 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434070330 755534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070333 31573 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434070333 693033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070341 328553 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1434070343 345149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070346 357677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: HackEgo doesn't commit files that haven't changed hth < 1434070347 697028 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1434070358 110470 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTR < 1434070359 757012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070361 439878 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENT < 1434070363 158860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070365 678114 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434070367 337210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «culprit» < 1434070370 832800 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1434070372 834928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070391 503200 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon. m'a toujours bin finir par l'avoir. maudite patente à gosse de marche tout croche. < 1434070397 596462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally i saw a badger cross the street the other day < 1434070399 515917 :badger!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily < 1434070414 707696 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1243 < 1434070417 282871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070433 981682 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070435 438952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1243) <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434070438 504121 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1434070600 461365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet precognitive < 1434070603 788564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRECOGNITIVE CHICKEN < 1434070642 232259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, google translate does not handle québécois well. < 1434070698 232856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should've been bin/culprits itself with that history. :-( < 1434070700 695245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :squandered < 1434070718 817736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic < 1434070758 651729 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: “now. I'll finally git'er done. damned thingy that won't work by itself.” < 1434071571 268003 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434071772 389476 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why did the badger cross the street? < 1434071787 220143 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434072124 29922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make a CGI program that will cause Apache to request authorization? < 1434072224 860168 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1434072325 446186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet what < 1434072326 228521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT CHICKEN < 1434072355 141529 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym wat. < 1434072372 92058 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_(food) ) < 1434072373 235542 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: unexpected < 1434072373 411343 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Operator without known fixity: < 1434072373 411399 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ://, expected: space < 1434072373 411422 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_(food) )<EOF> < 1434072373 411442 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1434072405 925547 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434072517 347186 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ARROW CHICKEN < 1434072612 588187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434073095 239280 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal sized faces are what america need right now < 1434073991 911164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it was its turn to visit the chicken hth < 1434074221 524528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently archive binging The Whiteboard. he's not sure if there have been any badgers yet, although the main cast includes a lot of other carnivore mammals. (and one hare.) < 1434074354 815527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while waiting for doc's pizza teleporting technology to come to norway, i shall now heat one the old fashion way -> < 1434074422 246828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you considered archive googling instead hth < 1434074509 866448 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434074529 224192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no tdnh < 1434074844 564630 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434075644 959631 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1434075685 620384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels stupid < 1434075757 223006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to take the ovenware out of the oven before turning it on < 1434075923 115597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crisis circumvented < 1434075947 365785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdom: taking the ovenware out of the oven before turning it on < 1434075949 584299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdom:': wisdom: taking the ovenware out of the oven before turning it on < 1434075966 548392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes this doesn't mean the pizza will be burned on the underside < 1434076006 535040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they say, a clever person can get out of trouble that a wise person doesn't get into < 1434076041 218165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in retrospect this is kind of rude :'( < 1434076046 931796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i'm moderately clever, then < 1434076053 523382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s okay < 1434076063 23508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been wise for years < 1434076658 17166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434076914 758473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how's your norwegian pizza twh < 1434077226 922832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434077227 674249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotton/gotton is a quantum of attention. Solain drives the packet. < 1434077232 788047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434077232 963579 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434077233 720762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello/hello hello hello, what's all this then? < 1434077244 631059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hello < 1434077245 803059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike FreeFull Taneb < 1434077257 18557 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434077272 524399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's the age-reknowned pepperoni and pineapple variant hth < 1434077293 826753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let it be nown < 1434077297 259975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-k < 1434077307 686663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stpid inlish < 1434077319 503718 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434077343 698552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should tae an IQ test. i must have dropped at least 30 points. < 1434077365 27703 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote < oerjan> i should tae an IQ test. i must have dropped at least 30 points. < 1434077367 166767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1244) < oerjan> i should tae an IQ test. i must have dropped at least 30 points. < 1434077371 605815 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote coppro < 1434077372 385069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :102) <coppro> what's the data of? [...] <Sgeo> Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation <coppro> I have no problems with you being interested in online games <coppro> but the necrophilia is disturbing \ 120) <pikhq> INTERNET <coppro> YAY <cpressey> Said like a once-drowning man, rescued, taking a breath. \ 296) <Gregor> Write-only IRC: < 1434077401 749552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '1244s/< o/<o/' quotes < 1434077402 29175 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      | < 1434077402 204807 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     /| < 1434077403 862716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434077413 10969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1244 < 1434077413 702046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1244) <oerjan> i should tae an IQ test. i must have dropped at least 30 points. < 1434077635 502533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434077636 777769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd/ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1434077661 543517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled again < 1434077667 594300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wisdom should just run ? < 1434077691 196299 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, me? < 1434077693 438031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun with refactoring < 1434077736 421138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes, you < 1434077761 412434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: having an infinite file in wisdom/ makes it impossible to grep through it and stuff < 1434077788 515751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, bloody awkward anyway < 1434077803 927202 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you just search long enough, you'll find what you're looking for. < 1434077824 942175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats tswett -----### < 1434077844 58133 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434077865 911220 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434077879 741576 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type type < 1434077880 201178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1434077883 458503 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type type < 1434077883 961018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type is a shell builtin < 1434078007 269715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/entry/entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward/' wisdom/ngevd < 1434078008 25517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 66: unknown option to `s' < 1434078010 521382 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:48bb:1ec0:1394:d1ef JOIN :#esoteric < 1434078031 222895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's,entry,entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward,' wisdom/ngevd < 1434078033 277885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078044 477752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1434078046 373051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1434078077 72254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ngevd < 1434078077 913200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf oerjan shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 Jafet nitia < 1434078085 720286 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is on fire < 1434078103 37294 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is *also* on fire, that is. < 1434078112 989396 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm apparently not one of the culprits? < 1434078113 585279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett never even touched that file < 1434078115 330425 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1434078118 740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you gotta be like that < 1434078130 54708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's impossible... < 1434078134 656903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434078142 642589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better now it explain why you should not tamper it to make infinitely and stuff like that. < 1434078147 134420 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I distinctly remember mucking with that file. < 1434078149 686498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: maybe because it was a straightup `revert < 1434078156 931019 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1434078164 86528 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s selflink selflink < 1434078164 262107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, `revert goes in the logs. < 1434078166 615125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078169 966025 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat selflink < 1434078171 785656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: selflink: Too many levels of symbolic links < 1434078175 919107 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434078176 261578 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits selflink < 1434078177 166077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1434078182 108809 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434078182 587870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434078189 791670 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1434078190 448393 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1434078191 208001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ share \ src \ twolines \ Wierd \ wi < 1434078203 346701 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls selflink < 1434078203 928502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access selflink: No such file or directory < 1434078209 704730 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits selflink < 1434078210 864068 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1434078227 752813 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&shrug; < 1434078270 679616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1434078273 170190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1434078288 864910 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1434078289 855168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1434078299 218191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits #esoteric < 1434078302 629230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078311 105049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in wisdom/*; do hg log "$f" | grep revert; done < 1434078327 257776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log '#esoteric' < 1434078328 438889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078333 14933 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qlfyqecsyjqsaldk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434078342 793650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <oerjan> revert \ summary: <oerjan> revert 3875 \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <elliott> revert 1492 \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: < < 1434078552 71113 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1434078552 696081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434078559 44247 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C# < 1434078561 710337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1434078574 375595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/* | grep revert | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn < 1434078576 451326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 28 <oerjan> \ 13 <elliott> \ 9 <shachaf> \ 3 <ais523> \ 2 <Phantom_Hoover> \ 2 <FreeFull> \ 1 <Sgeo> \ 1 <mrhmouse> \ 1 <Jafet> \ 1 <Gregor> \ 1 <Bike> \ 1 <badger> < 1434078604 35445 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a partridge in a pear tree < 1434078612 634392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: something has been weird about `revert ever since we played around with ./canary the other day. it's not actually broken (any more than it used to be) though < 1434078668 814900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually is more broken than it used to be hth < 1434078689 253967 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C++ < 1434078690 132867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1434078705 796193 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1434078706 629299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434078712 752146 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vi < 1434078713 340628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434078723 27843 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir emoticons < 1434078723 685471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078730 207322 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '¯\(°​_o)/¯' > emoticons/shrug < 1434078732 315508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078737 263486 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/shrug < 1434078737 825083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434078740 281853 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful. < 1434078780 780979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there anything other than the weird error message? < 1434078809 277453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway tswett's wisdom/ngevd edits are clearly listed in the hg browser. < 1434078916 23520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but not if i look at the logs for the file. sheesh. < 1434078965 821666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1434078981 634687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits selflink < 1434078982 498894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1434078986 89454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm selflink < 1434078988 830196 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078990 993291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi > selflink < 1434078993 301018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434078995 450754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits selflink < 1434078996 390301 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf tswett < 1434079069 439696 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat >emoticons/gaan <<<'(°Д°)' < 1434079069 943084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: >emoticons/gaan <<<'(°Д°)': No such file or directory < 1434079079 770253 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``cat >emoticons/gaan <<<'(°Д°)' < 1434079080 423450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `cat: not found < 1434079088 890424 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >emoticons/gaan <<<'(°Д°)' < 1434079091 369925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434079107 610992 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaan < 1434079108 190762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(°Д°) < 1434079144 396351 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type '`' < 1434079145 147357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is /hackenv/bin/` < 1434079164 433539 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/` < 1434079166 119192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/`: ASCII text < 1434079172 506024 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1434079173 153516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIMEFORMAT='real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS' exec bash -c -- "$1" < 1434079191 775603 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type run < 1434079192 482955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: type: run: not found < 1434079227 615397 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo run run run' > bin/run < 1434079229 772061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434079231 332482 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1434079231 882211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/run: Permission denied < 1434079238 99733 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/run < 1434079239 560802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434079242 169939 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1434079242 669268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1434079252 298488 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run something else to make sure I didn't permanently break HackEgo < 1434079253 16084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1434079263 56314 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error message. Whew. < 1434079296 956297 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaan < 1434079297 572268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(°Д°) < 1434079309 435535 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. useful. < 1434079333 645748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a fan of those things. < 1434079361 177674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434079362 251190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atrix/Atrix is a brand of hand cream. Not to be confused with atriq. < 1434079396 26891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with atrus < 1434079417 519215 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434079513 257229 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >emoticons/kyaa <<<'(≧∇≦)/' < 1434079517 275824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434079525 574134 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I passed my finals < 1434079532 787265 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/kyaa < 1434079533 476382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(≧∇≦)/ < 1434079534 322447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats! < 1434079540 435734 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :omodetou < 1434079549 113541 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh oren how do you get all these emoticons < 1434079602 625687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are spontaneously created from his intense pain of knowing japanese < 1434079608 333398 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emoticons < 1434079609 72008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaan \ kyaa \ shrug < 1434079620 925339 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't normally type, But Im surprised how fast I can type 90-110 words perminute < 1434079621 898004 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly the internet's greatest repository of emoticons < 1434079635 233028 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: try typing that speed but twice as fast < 1434079649 424357 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fingers would break < 1434079652 672865 :OriginalOldMan!4c79b164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.121.177.100 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434079659 616172 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a good website: http://emoji.vis.ne.jp/ < 1434079686 651795 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that one disorder that makes it hard to hold stuff and your hands shake a lot because I probably have that < 1434079701 306351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :parkinsons maybe? < 1434079706 769161 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1434079730 777883 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was that but my medical terminology is out of date by a few years < 1434079741 419093 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're fingers would be fine, since you're typing at the same speed < 1434079770 853666 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said twice as fast < 1434079794 151886 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah but at the same speed < 1434079851 206406 :password2!~password@197.77.60.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434079852 909586 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1434079864 982971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds reasonable. < 1434079925 755087 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you oerjan < 1434079954 397580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :full hth < 1434080026 162280 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1434080040 122050 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :means he's not hundry < 1434080051 18300 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hundry/hungry/ < 1434080062 529789 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ok < 1434080067 726746 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "hope that helps". it's what he says when he doesn't really < 1434080122 224887 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what hth means hth < 1434080169 291515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/hg/hg --removed/' bin/culprits < 1434080171 340268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434080175 675011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ngevd < 1434080177 618883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: option --removed not recognized < 1434080181 187211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434080183 161008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434080185 152617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434080192 720491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/log/log --removed/' bin/culprits < 1434080196 11482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434080198 655762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ngevd < 1434080199 950296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan tswett tswett oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf elliott oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 Jafet Jafet Jafet Jafet oerjan Jafet shachaf shachaf oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1434080220 557133 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434080221 905895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth < 1434080228 900274 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oerjan says "hth" at literally random times. < 1434080242 856549 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't Taneb on there < 1434080250 921363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tdh thx < 1434080260 257456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: if they're random how do you explain the fact that they always come in pairs < 1434080267 192715 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whereis Taneb < 1434080269 983915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: < 1434080276 844513 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it's generated by quantum noise. < 1434080278 392430 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :'e is in here < 1434080290 550647 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because if they came alone, they'd be affected by the Pauli exclusion principle. < 1434080298 230998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: i think Taneb may have stayed carefully away from that file < 1434080308 958657 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1434080319 436005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what a rigidulous idea tdnh < 1434080335 15999 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum physics is not my forte < 1434080349 991796 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quantum < 1434080350 852497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434080355 815788 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: THAWFLSFYAAYSFLF < 1434080478 849926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks tswett is inviting him to a free lunch somehow but isn't sure < 1434080479 50053 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ?? < 1434080498 215977 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: several of those words contain asterisks. < 1434080510 497547 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should censor all but the last letter of curse words. < 1434080517 286471 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"***k you, you piece of ***t!" < 1434080558 16080 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434080565 387988 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we should use arbitrary letters, followed by three asterisks, as swear words. < 1434080585 960855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :q*** stupid < 1434080591 55575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm hereby inviting you to a free lunch in berkeley, ca hth < 1434080600 145351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1434080601 56947 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You g***er, I'm gonna come over there and h*** your i***ing k***! See how you like THAT, you l***ing piece of m***!" < 1434080625 668019 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could use @#&*/ for censoring < 1434080632 234802 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You golfer, I'm gonna come over there and howl your itching kite! See you you like THAT, you licking piece of meat! < 1434080641 112649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: doesn't work in a programming channel hth < 1434080663 558888 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a @#&*/ b = b ^ a in 2 @#&*/ 5 < 1434080663 734611 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :isee < 1434080665 15755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 < 1434080694 906128 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see < 1434080732 217029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: very graphic < 1434080790 741573 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan are you married? < 1434080931 967737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't censor any < 1434080947 794654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can cause a mess, except for self-censoring where you can see properly < 1434080959 477646 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll censor *** word I want! < 1434080959 880995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I instinctually said q*** in my mind as quack < 1434080984 302738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Censor it if you want to, but only your own message please < 1434080988 794982 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to turn the voice in your head up < 1434080996 827184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: never been < 1434081003 234316 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that everyone can hear everything I think? < 1434081003 967157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, if ALL of the words are censor then probably it is difficult to read. < 1434081006 679785 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1434081013 423418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, sometimes that can be the point) < 1434081058 679152 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem like a reasonable person with a good personality so I presumed you had a person < 1434081065 443416 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you censoring words < 1434081070 997209 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :its confusing < 1434081126 266374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i c***** see w*** s* c******** < 1434081139 705468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+** < 1434081155 661257 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric :******* < 1434081186 658811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: i think you pasted your password on the channel, you might want to change hth < 1434081222 828278 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm PRIVMSG #esoteric ::+ < 1434081249 735685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just pasted < 1434081275 817222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434081277 615626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wlcom/Hi! This is a chat about unusual programming tools. For additional info, visit our wiki: <http://bit.ly/C4TUY>. (For unusual things of a contrasting sort, try http://bit.ly/19k9nf8.) < 1434081281 526192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wise < 1434081282 142650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wise: not found < 1434081524 725106 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434081526 551011 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1434081665 985822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434082479 473680 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1434083371 77536 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum hum. I love trying to compile things using Cygwin that weren't intended to work in Cygwin. < 1434083383 677438 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program du jour is Torch. < 1434083467 622192 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/10236638 < 1434083469 413315 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/tswett/torch/build/exe/luajit-rocks/luajit-2.1/lj_vm.s:6: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.hidden' < 1434083518 85704 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1434083559 367622 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that .hidden is an ELF-specific pseudo-op, so it will never work. < 1434083590 612371 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no *good* reason for it to not work in PE, but yeah. < 1434083600 965580 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically, Windows toolchains suck worse than they have to.) < 1434083606 56862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I program it so that all links to HTTPS servers will link to HTTP servers instead? < 1434083616 708817 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program what? < 1434083654 302230 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You can't reliably -- there are hosts that do https but not http, and there are hosts where https and http serve different content. < 1434083728 7160 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'm wondering what's generating lj_vm.s, and out of what. < 1434083738 543026 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever's generating it seems to think I'm using Linux. < 1434083905 84054 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, uh, how do I figure that out... < 1434084220 967766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434084293 36310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434084369 944127 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it's actually trying to build, since /home/tswett/torch/build/exe/luajit-rocks/luajit-2.1 builds just fine. < 1434084799 585813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434084800 349092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :willkommen/Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) < 1434084804 507506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434084805 335880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of croissant/misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434084853 70414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434084854 92604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :browser/A browser is a Gopher client for convenient access to Gopher services and documents. < 1434084867 389385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/browser < 1434084869 132600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1434084904 366622 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/Sgeo < 1434084905 988336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434085049 846445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been trying to find an alternative to the LinuxAssist Development Labs that I am currently using for issues-tracking/wiki of AmigaMML and possibly other programs too, because LinuxAssist Development Labs will be discontinued. I would prefer one with no HTTPS or JavaScript and all operation are possible also by command-line < 1434085178 623554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tried asking them, they don't know) < 1434085186 611147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that file doesn't exist hth < 1434085200 940022 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Sgeo < 1434085201 917500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex, thus killing it within a month. He was Doctor Mengele in his previous life, as evidenced by his norn experiments. < 1434085235 679657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches the gears in Sgeo_'s brain < 1434085257 315041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the chage logs been removed? < 1434085262 380980 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom < 1434085263 31816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom: Is a directory < 1434085263 314381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1434085270 758073 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1434085271 492230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ as86 \ aseen \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ cAt \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins \ CoInS \ complain \ co < 1434085287 508306 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/\? < 1434085288 148074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\?: No such file or directory < 1434085308 836777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it Sgeo_ doesn't have a photograph memory for HackEgo stuff. < 1434085313 713066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*photographic < 1434085412 644213 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1434085413 249858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ < 1434085477 717960 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1434085478 579117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ \ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ \ \   \ ⌨ \ ⊥ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕ < 1434085480 179609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders if it's evil to watch other people shave yaks < 1434085489 165971 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1434085500 478518 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/sgeo < 1434085502 346233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan GreyKnight oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1434085506 408793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1434085523 889412 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to wtf about the gibberish in the wisdom directory? < 1434085531 394012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free < 1434085538 294338 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1434085539 143540 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N,A{B7^r!'i&P=>L#GrQ;4" \ J;{T@\׭`_t1If<4*B˦-<.blxsjӭIh&MC%av|*9;,+/%Ɲ < 1434085549 716430 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that BELed < 1434085557 392879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's special hth < 1434085584 16177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? @ < 1434085584 908182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour < 1434085594 300522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah @ < 1434085603 735129 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? _̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? < 1434085604 545769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ??? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434085611 14458 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434085614 9806 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? _̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ < 1434085614 907263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434085634 482794 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go ahead and guess something was lost in encoding < 1434085643 972440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: wtf are you pasting utf-8 double-encoded tdnh < 1434085650 32729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1434085650 516658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^790887 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1434085658 942159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ls -id wisdom < 1434085659 615489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053793 wisdom < 1434085671 366815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it changed again < 1434085673 808390 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 encoding UTF-8 is a pretty terrible idea. < 1434085676 674904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hello < 1434085677 608652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello hello, what's all this then? < 1434085694 290665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a bit meaningless since nothing at the beginning is nicks any longer... < 1434085695 383564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I see a bunch of 'I' like characters < 1434085725 679052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: me too, which i am assuming are half of utf-8 pairs < 1434085742 285222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which have then been reencoded. although ... let me check the logs < 1434085753 668984 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I saw it as HackEgo output too, not just what I pasted < 1434085773 634993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's double encoded all right < 1434085793 922538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> binary # ord 'Ì' < 1434085795 235972 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "11001100" < 1434085819 883733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 should never have BELs that weren't there originally < 1434085821 730555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: where did you see it? < 1434085835 642401 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, in the output of `ls wisdom < 1434085837 556264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: if you mean `? ngevd that's raw urandom output < 1434085841 304957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1434085846 589739 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oops, yeah, the bel was ngevd < 1434085856 641694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your thing is broken hth < 1434085872 692455 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I assume it was a bel < 1434085878 917050 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my client beeped < 1434085968 506725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are pasting UTF-8 double-encoded then use the program I wrote which will un-double-encode it! < 1434086019 364659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I get the program you wrote? < 1434086082 900582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is installed in HackEgo, but here is also the copy: http://sprunge.us/YJhQ < 1434086140 216404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does a lot more than just that! < 1434086165 151900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think of XDR? < 1434086185 866224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to un-double-encode UTF-8 you should use the command-line argument "18" < 1434086192 178842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know what it is < 1434086210 221434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old data serialization format. < 1434087122 405830 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-71-178-188-234.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434087129 984728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is an extremely terrible character set for terminal emulators. < 1434087176 682642 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's entirely possible to make it work, but you're right. < 1434087207 527901 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The semantics of it only just barely work with a terminal's semantics, and even then you have to fudge a tiny bit. < 1434087291 218970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you change the ls to not mention the PDF but rather just mention the Mercurial repository? That way would work much better and is probably much closer to what you actually intended to do if you typed "ls wisdom" isn't it? < 1434087315 852194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else, mention to use /bin/ls in private < 1434087323 385336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or both < 1434087825 752282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ID number changed anyways, and furthermore if the default locale (rather than the C locale) is used, it is a different order anyways and won't get any nicknames < 1434087868 410039 :password2!~password@197.77.60.188 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434088643 579806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1434088644 103698 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^790887 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1434088671 374666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was changed. < 1434088720 653457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:09 <oerjan> oh it changed again < 1434088734 655664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not the id, the rest < 1434088746 172639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/bin/ls -id wisdom < 1434088746 936826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `/bin/ls --help' for more information. < 1434088751 240131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ls -id wisdom < 1434088752 16795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053793 wisdom < 1434088763 622318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What changed? < 1434088773 504402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/790887/1053793/' bin/ls < 1434088774 983352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434088789 167200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it use inodes? < 1434088838 246376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` stat -c %i wisdom < 1434088838 788638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053793 < 1434088852 353419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easiest way to check that isn't dependent on exact filepath? < 1434088878 480153 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlmmfnervxjgvdgm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434088891 700487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not compare it to wisdom/'s inode rather than hard-coding it in the script, then? < 1434088930 840283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's another way you can do, now you don't need to hardcode the number. (Although as I said it no longer will result list nicks) < 1434088996 238925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls * < 1434088997 91167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead. < 1434089019 775872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's as intended. < 1434089037 939228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I guess. < 1434089118 315532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that message is now deceptive as it doesn't actually work differently in private if you don't know how to work around it < 1434089153 827937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that is right, but useful if you want to pipe it to something or avoid opening a web browser. < 1434089166 883856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did it ever work differently in private? < 1434089172 365283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that by examining logs or something? < 1434089178 473150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of < 1434089187 637742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you do open a web browser, the Mercurial repository is more closely to what you want probably anyways. < 1434089603 978875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $HOME < 1434089604 555029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp < 1434089608 75017 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( 1053793 ==> ls -id /hackenv/wisdom | cut -d' ' -f1 ) < 1434089677 106175 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, why < 1434089680 674001 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1434089689 364913 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` stat -c%i /hackenv/wisdom < 1434089690 204981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053793 < 1434089700 920817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1434089718 226942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only fancy when int-e does it, huh? < 1434089754 731299 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is typically only reading 20ish lines of backlog each day, sorry. < 1434089779 994093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also when i'm not paying attention hth < 1434089798 454114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for making you feel sorry < 1434089805 479619 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I'm not reading sequentially) < 1434089821 551800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I'm just a bad person, don't worry :) < 1434089826 526199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1434089826 701893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434089828 539518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing long sequentially as you are < 1434089837 423114 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the pet still likes me < 1434089849 865678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434089850 984387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand/A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1434089869 403406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hand < 1434089871 220177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1434089876 12081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1434089882 28867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434089883 56053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome/wecome in pece. < 1434089896 515506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws an inebriated ostrich at shachaf  < 1434089964 342812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what URL do you need for Mercurial to always access the latest copy instead of a specific changeset anyways? < 1434089984 443139 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: replace the changeset number by 'tip' < 1434090008 46032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434090008 899780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup/What soup, Doc? < 1434090012 615019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434090013 390740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :england/England is [EXPUNGED]. < 1434090020 692251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: OK, thanks < 1434090027 746323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/england < 1434090029 203144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan oerjan FreeFull elliott oerjan < 1434090043 82397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that works < 1434090044 568246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conspiracy of cartographers < 1434090150 741562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1434090153 50551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ostrich': Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1434090179 148474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; ls | wc < 1434090179 742874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 22 134 < 1434090186 620316 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434090218 242760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the `url command should give you the latest version url < 1434090222 775069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom < 1434090224 832733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom < 1434090235 720042 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434090244 316604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434090245 129624 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weetoflake/Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1434090265 149352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434090265 872911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universal property/Universal properties are the best. < 1434090380 552845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1434090383 335146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ostrich': Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1434090449 70153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ostrich < 1434090450 792375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434090458 147848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ostrich < 1434090459 483817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1434090468 178793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is quite useful < 1434090534 92413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? turkey < 1434090534 743343 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434090818 99406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them in conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1434090819 948041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'turkey': Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them in conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1434091048 826143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them into conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining, and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1434091051 229589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'turkey': Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them into conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining, and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1434091073 295225 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434091073 947939 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434091099 78998 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1434091100 498122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf shachaf shachaf FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1434091108 892415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can make RDF of the HackEgo wisdom data in order to categorize and so on. Some stuff such as contents and modification times (as well as names of any entries that haven't yet been categorized) can be automatically added by downloading system. < 1434091196 227000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-Triples is a simplest kind of way to store it, but Turtle or Xturtle is more clean for writing and reading manually. There is also Packed Binary RDF can make even more smaller file. I also made the SQLite extension it can read Xturtle file (and therefore can also read Turtle file, and therefore can also read N-Triples file) so you can also use that to import into a SQL database. < 1434091221 805514 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434091288 575759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key"; echo "made «$1»"' > bin/mk; chmod +x bin/mk < 1434091290 108585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434091342 535651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk hi//hi < 1434091343 852638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made «hi//hi» < 1434091348 740579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434091353 566348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hi < 1434091354 239454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434091383 326941 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434091384 350949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/mk//[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key"; echo "made «$key»" < 1434091386 287961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/mk: line 2: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/mk: line 3: syntax error: unexpected end of file \ made «bin/mk//[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key"; echo "made «$key»"» < 1434091424 958767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1434091425 620617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key"; echo "made «$key»" < 1434091442 88711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk hi//ho < 1434091444 95230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made «hi» < 1434091453 271706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened there? < 1434091508 525436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk wisdom/hi//hi < 1434091509 880794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made «wisdom/hi» < 1434091514 226214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1434091515 190544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434091524 783933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/hi < 1434091528 610506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434091584 876316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/made «$key»/$key/' bin/mk < 1434091588 494025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434091927 495734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use utftovlq to swap pairs of bytes in files with even number of bytes. See? I think it has a lot of possible uses. < 1434091958 54731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only for un-double-encoding UTF-8, or double-encoding UTF-8, or converting proper UTF-8 into CESU-8, or whatever. < 1434092055 704065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a program "inpl" that accept a filename and command, and allow it to operate on the file in-place. < 1434092083 463351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, the shell syntax to do such thing < 1434092362 560769 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "sponge" program does that. < 1434092383 661486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1434092459 648415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? just intonation < 1434092460 383168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just intonation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434092657 888686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/mke//key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" || exit; chmod +x "$key" < 1434092659 887555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/mke < 1434092699 752909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/mke//key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" && chmod +x "$key" < 1434092701 155510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/mke < 1434092708 467413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/mke < 1434092710 530316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434092749 981790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is good < 1434092764 74154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/mk//[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1434092765 539740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/mk \ /hackenv/bin/mk: line 2: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/mk: line 3: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1434092809 887248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted to you could add mkdir -p too. < 1434092860 709760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops now that is also broke? < 1434092876 365813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it works. < 1434092879 673516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1434092880 233017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1434092963 230689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mke bin/boo//echo "$0" "$@" < 1434092965 216114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/boo < 1434092969 440810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`boo blah < 1434092970 162264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/boo blah < 1434092976 324861 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk wisdom/just intonation//Bad-tempered people can be recognized by just intonation. < 1434092978 675089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/just intonation < 1434092980 573623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/boo < 1434092982 3102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434093658 749453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet++ < 1434093670 969434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Zork is like York, except for the first letter. < 1434093674 499429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zork': Zork is like York, except for the first letter. < 1434093677 806985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokemon card < 1434093678 383387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokemon card? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434093680 740473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice "bad-tempered" the first time. < 1434093852 434901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please tell me what to move all of my issue-tracking wiki into? I asked everyone else already (including the service I currently use) and they don't know. Is it really necessary to program it by myself? < 1434093875 980115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with the current issue-tracking wiki? < 1434093899 846760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be discontinued soon and is no longer supported. < 1434093908 345219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1434093913 57776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the "Important Note" on https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml < 1434093932 251640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what they told me when I asked them a question. < 1434093977 11697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said they can make "one or two redirects", but not who it is redirected to. < 1434093990 898395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What features do you need? < 1434094030 950252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the issue tracker and wiki and files (preferably with issue and file version numbers), really. Preferably also support command-line access, as well as web-page < 1434094082 245826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people I know use GitHub for issue tracking and wiki and files. < 1434094086 291443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would prefer the mob-writable-wiki rather than only some people are allowed (pages can be locked if needed; Redmine supports locking pages too but doesn't give other people access to write anyways so it isn't so useful) < 1434094153 723161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GitHub seem to render slowly, and I would prefer if the server won't add extra header/footer/margins (even Redmine does it though, and I don't want it to) < 1434094201 323575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do without the news and forums if anyone can write on wiki, since then other people can post message on wiki. < 1434094364 95724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is more precisely what I would be looking for < 1434094874 748932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I have to write my own program possibly < 1434095354 490262 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@2601:9:4980:a3d4:448:8178:4e15:db88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434095775 485831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote poiuy_qwert < 1434095776 249948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434095776 438950 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434095790 167028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poiuy_qwert < 1434095790 993827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poiuy_qwert? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434095803 333527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i quess he was before the time of wisdom < 1434096045 666204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I did causes Apache to crash < 1434096065 881047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I put a AuthDigestFile command inside of a <Files> block < 1434096428 482175 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any algorithm to factor polynomials over non commutative rings? < 1434096550 308531 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-71-178-188-234.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434096758 317117 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1434096787 91002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls all the algebraists at the university talking about gröbner bases. he wasn't one of them though. < 1434097323 413936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I managed to avoid my probme by using groups instead. < 1434097658 601250 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@2601:9:4980:a3d4:448:8178:4e15:db88 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434098035 664129 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434098881 258770 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434098900 782236 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434099193 786996 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434099232 110482 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434099647 676268 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's up with you and RDF? < 1434099794 667682 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434099893 169100 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1434100044 533482 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434100348 886495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wrote a RDF parser, a pretty small one but that also can be used with SQLite. < 1434100642 228219 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434100651 362870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434100808 338541 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1434100929 88577 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434101007 475693 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434101849 307388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434101870 384910 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1434102108 252218 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434102116 44969 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434102172 840684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Windows if you assign a drive letter for \Device\NamedPipe you can list the files in that directory but you cannot select that drive as the current drive. < 1434103258 860074 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434103259 69827 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434103326 550229 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434103490 311372 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434103598 108919 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434103729 756975 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434103814 759038 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1434104879 536996 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434104883 495765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434106492 655811 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1434111859 68337 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434112961 432427 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1434112976 148765 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434114127 448305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434114426 641905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm reading an article which defines a computer as alternating between an add/subtract instruction and a goto-if-zero < 1434114437 270294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was just meant as an illustrative example, but that's TC by itself, isn't it? < 1434114451 448224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming bignums, at least < 1434114466 768851 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434114540 126852 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434114561 597288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, if it's alternating between add/subtract instruction, how does the goto-if-zero come into it? < 1434114574 99878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, can it either address indirectly or write into instruction space? < 1434114597 377037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it alternates between (either an add or subtract instruction) and (a goto-if-zero) < 1434114604 957034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah! < 1434114605 840517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no implication that the instruction space was writable < 1434114608 787589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's TC anyway though < 1434114615 298266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are something similar, though they use only subtract < 1434114616 471694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minsky machine, most likely < 1434114635 528541 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and they use fixed size integers and writing to instruction space or other methods of indirection < 1434114677 972043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer goto-if-negative, it's better, because goto-if-zero gives you the brainfuck-like thing where you have to subtract one repeatedly to tell how large a number is < 1434114689 813310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the wireworld computer has only mov, and things like arithmetic are memory-mapped < 1434114696 498669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure sure < 1434114699 587050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a problem < 1434114707 877343 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just prefer to have slightly more potent arithmetic than others < 1434114736 91586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you want one that can't indirect-address, so any program can access only fixed size memory, right? < 1434114739 440551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to use bignums? < 1434114787 449655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my reasoning was < 1434114803 730622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have indirect addressing, you need bignums to get infinite storage < 1434114820 208012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have indirect addressing, you /still/ need bignums to get infinite storage (because otherwise the amount of memory you can use is limited by the range of an int) < 1434114830 256803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't really matter whether you can indirect-address or not for TCness purposes < 1434114833 705520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you have only fixed addressing AND only equal compare, then I think it's still turing-complete but you have a mandatory exponential slowdown < 1434114855 503624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, we should really formalize this mandatory slowdown thing < 1434114868 305807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's only a mandatory O(n) slowdown, but am having problems defining what n is < 1434114886 428494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mandatory TCness slowdown is something I've been thinking of ever since I designed Thutu < 1434114898 970453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which feels O(n) slower than other languages, even though it possibly isn't) < 1434114914 78445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1434114966 780023 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn’t such a slowdown defined as the one simulating the other requiring that function of the other’s number of steps? < 1434114984 648857 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, but first, you do understand why it's likely TC (you haven't defined it completely, but with some sane definition) because of reudction to counter machines that can only add 1 or subtract 1, right? < 1434115019 364924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: that's more reminiscent o eigenratios < 1434115020 946744 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we can prove the exponential slowdown too, though of course only for concrete definition (or set of definitions) of the machine. < 1434115022 611444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, yes, that's the construction I was planning < 1434115041 950146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the difference being that interpreting language A in language B is different from compiling language A to language B < 1434115044 732612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the details matter too much for it actually, but you only get a formal proof that way < 1434115050 600651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most obviously, you can see this when A and B are the same language) < 1434115073 296992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mentioned infinite storage needs bignums, which is correct, and it's the key < 1434115088 328765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can store infinite storage only in a bignum or set of bignums < 1434115098 664604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: or stack or other similar recursive data structure < 1434115110 976694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't work as well with these primitives < 1434115153 256825 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The only thing I was really thinking about was the exponential step blowup when simulating an NTM with a DTM. < 1434115173 2836 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for intruding when tired. .ω. < 1434115175 234747 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, to retrieve the information from a single bignum that can have O(alpha) possible values, you need to run O(alpha) operations < 1434115191 259361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: oh right, I'll buy that < 1434115200 967340 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit faster if you have more bignums, say C bignums, because then you can use O(alpha**(1/C)) operations < 1434115203 902101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming P≠NP, at least; if they're equal it becomes rather more interesting) < 1434115214 900427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/O(alpha)/Omega(alpha)/ < 1434115277 34426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you want to store n bits, and your program has access to C registers (memory slots whatever), you need at least some of them to store O(2**(n/C)) different values, or a bit less if you count the states of the program too but that's only constant too < 1434115304 211425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so while this isn't a formal proof, I think it shows why you need exponential slowdown to simulate random access < 1434115324 106510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only single-exponential, mind you < 1434115357 636655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I guess the difference is that I don't consider random access as a default < 1434115392 90501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: same thing, there's only O(n**2*log(n)) or so difference between turing machine and random access < 1434115400 217428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that < 1434115425 120169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you could simulate a turing machine, you could simulate a ram machine with a turing machine < 1434115439 879170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this applies for one-tape turing machine or boolfuck or whatever too < 1434115461 430952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it's no formal proof < 1434115475 105837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be possible to formalize it not too hard < 1434115532 223234 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434115548 349178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you need to prove that at least one program actually /benefits/ from random access memory < 1434115561 143906 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is why people like the class P so much: it is a robust class that doesn't change if you use wildly different computation models < 1434115590 156319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, you only need to prove that at least one program benefits from having exponential time as opposed to polynomial < 1434115639 191867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean, suppose that for all algorithms that use unlimited RAM, there's a way to rewrite that algorithm to use bounded RAM < 1434115643 231019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now your proof breaks down < 1434115649 270998 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and, for the proof, that at least one program benefits from having a bit storage < 1434115649 596227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously doubt that's the case but you do need to prove it isnt the case < 1434115652 824828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big storage < 1434115656 606475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, yes < 1434115704 878704 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434115779 871739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's actually not very hard to prove, but I'm not sure, I'm not a computational complexity expert < 1434115811 523554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this, you only need to prove that some program needs big storage as opposed to _logarithmic_ storage < 1434115829 530158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a stronger statement, thus harder to prove < 1434115840 302446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1434115840 498535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :than big as opposed to finite < 1434115865 978642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still easier than to prove polynomial storage versus exponential, or polynomial storage versus linear < 1434115884 308650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those I think are difficult and one of them might be unsolved < 1434115891 864246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe both, I dunno < 1434117933 161852 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434118095 469915 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434118406 426653 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434118587 701451 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434118635 4438 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah wow, people are still improving bf joust :P < 1434118650 568 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering if the full site/code to run a hill are available somewhere, either the old or new ones? < 1434118744 598302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: just me recently, because I saw there had been no new programs in 2015 < 1434118752 209242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happy if you came back to active competition, though < 1434118755 308415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no new hill-topping < 1434118785 993538 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i don't think i can hang ;) i was mostly interested in simpler programs, not writing the kind of monster generated-code beasts you write < 1434118816 928488 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering setting up something for our programming department, a private hill, where people could explore the game from the "noob on up" perspective < 1434118820 32391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, they're not all generated-code < 1434118830 659813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I write monster programs by hand! < 1434118832 715463 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of having to jump into a mature hill < 1434118835 683500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well, monolith fits on one line of IRC < 1434118836 874414 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1434118880 112048 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it seems clear that the age of single purpose interesting tactics is somewhat over < 1434118889 656249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: I disagree < 1434118908 769363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :margins is like nothing else I've seen, and I'm trying to improve it locally before putting an improved version on the hill < 1434118921 749045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :growth2, the current hilltopper, is pretty single-minded and unlike most other programs < 1434118929 712661 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, i had just glanced over the wiki but i didn't see that one < 1434118942 998945 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably there's simply no writeup yet < 1434118983 919317 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh haha slowrush is finally gone ;) < 1434118988 547598 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long it lasted < 1434118995 212103 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shit was around forever < 1434119002 657759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: there should be a writeup at the bototm < 1434119017 840927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: here: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies#2015 < 1434119034 114323 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant margins < 1434119037 442056 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did see growth < 1434119048 78935 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was more curious about the 'like nothing i've seen' comment :) < 1434119065 786307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, margins has never topped the hill < 1434119076 637843 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose we're using the optimized interpreter now where it doesn't require expansion in memory < 1434119082 128442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with many hill algorithms, could beat every single program and get nowhere near topping the hill < 1434119087 61501 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so writing zany huge repeated loop stuff is not as impossible < 1434119090 932665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wow you've been gone a while < 1434119095 254521 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw < 1434119096 33862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tons of interpreters that work like taht now < 1434119106 263185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's *lance series, Gregor's egojoust, my juiced < 1434119107 320095 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the discussion < 1434119122 247776 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure the lance thing was the one i was explaining how to pull it off with or something like that < 1434119132 609084 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, using something like that changes what's possible on the hill < 1434119137 574890 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's had time to sink in < 1434119143 296408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get tons of nested % in programs nowadays < 1434119145 267549 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the willy nilly use of *100000 < 1434119151 674825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* has been optimized for years < 1434119156 14837 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1434119246 979143 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :ayylmao < 1434119293 659964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, % has been optimized for years too, but * for much longer < 1434119306 111355 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1434119322 987769 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i was still participating when lance was written and i seem to remember it going into the hill < 1434119326 665093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of my programs have even started using the "inside {} matches outside % rule" that was recently agreed on but I'm not sure how widely implemented it is yet < 1434119354 431743 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? what's that mean < 1434119364 348154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: oh, if you want a hill impl, read this: http://zem.fi/bfjoust/internals/ < 1434119376 228329 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? grue < 1434119377 69769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grue? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434119401 685512 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn grue is the colour of the trees and the ocean < 1434119404 39915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'grue': grue is the colour of the trees and the ocean < 1434119448 283823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean that (a(b{c{d}e}f)%2g)%2 expands to (abbc{d}effg)%2 and then to abbcabbcdeffgeffg < 1434119462 142528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't really formalized beforehand, but it's the only consistent way to interpret input that looks like that < 1434119493 562491 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1434119544 557416 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny i'd probably have chosen the reverse < 1434119555 781604 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i haven't considered whether that's easier or not to interpret < 1434119561 394814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to expand that using the reverse, and you'll see why we didn't < 1434119569 958865 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can well imagine < 1434119670 785093 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always kind of hurts my brain to try and interpret that syntax anyway, it's a little painful < 1434119671 385976 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434119689 608660 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the only time i understood it well was when discussing the original optimization to that business < 1434119814 763027 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, if you expand it reverse, there'll be two non-nested inner braces < 1434119834 503714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but what happens to input like (a(b{c}d{e}f)%2g)%s ? < 1434119836 621890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1434119842 837965 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a(b{c}d{e}f)%2g)%2 < 1434119847 534911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that isn't currently legal < 1434119855 244690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what the interps do < 1434119860 845543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434119897 314545 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yeah, that looks broken as fuck ;) < 1434119916 475133 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm surprised there's a web interface to test programs but not submit them < 1434119938 856336 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's nice to keep people "community involved" on irc but the pastebin workaround is extra work :P < 1434120105 531264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the intention was very much to to have everything go through IRC < 1434120114 633451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, it helps stop spambots taking over the hill < 1434120123 755306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, zemhill wasn't working last time we checked < 1434120130 451287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the IRC bot, that is) < 1434120137 218132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the currently active hill is egojoust < 1434120143 682826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sort-of goes back and forth depending on which is functioning < 1434120159 590107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's just that I found zemhill's source link first, which is what you wanted) < 1434120204 149107 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i see < 1434120217 8128 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are spambots capable of writing programs good enough to run it? :P < 1434120220 766132 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :win it* < 1434120248 86370 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway yeah, the interpreter is a start, i was hoping maybe the actual site code one of the hills was open source on github basically < 1434120252 100206 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plug and play like < 1434120344 105990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: probably not but they take up a bunch of CPU cycles < 1434120349 841155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I thought that link /was/ the entire hill, but I didn't look at it < 1434120356 345996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you interp source if you like < 1434120393 844681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: yes, the link seems to be the whole hill software (see the zhill/ subdirectory) < 1434120394 414625 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no worries < 1434120404 207116 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't dug through it entirely yet, i checked the readme and it was all about the interpreters < 1434120405 114904 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :D < 1434120414 405580 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :work is tugging at my attention too, see :P < 1434120625 757791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 990 < 1434120626 481597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 990: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1434122581 324158 :nszceta!~nszceta@198.203.28.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434122620 53043 :nszceta!~nszceta@198.203.28.43 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1434122841 541740 :atphalix!~hamada@41.141.139.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434124086 598310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: time to go home < 1434124501 914401 :atphalix!~hamada@41.141.139.24 PART :#esoteric < 1434125181 549232 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434125366 372264 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:48bb:1ec0:1394:d1ef NICK :TieSoul < 1434125500 973690 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434125501 149388 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1434125501 149455 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434127125 489446 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434127174 13637 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434127850 478364 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434128312 981549 :PIERO47!~PIERO47@95.74.208.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434128405 67540 :PIERO47!~PIERO47@95.74.208.141 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434129095 907864 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434130527 147724 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1434131103 291644 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434131121 52867 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1434131169 618482 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:aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434139556 460326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434139566 458160 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139575 166707 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139610 539621 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139624 602632 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139624 778427 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139641 164218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434139711 840496 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434140012 630808 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434141152 952173 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) -- Linus Torvalds. Only fools rely on things staying where they're put on the internet; take a copy for yourself before it disappears. -- Oren Watson < 1434141200 335872 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, the guy who was uploading all my favorite music on youtube just deleted everything... < 1434141241 287145 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My policy of downloading anything I like has paid off < 1434141619 978670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done too downloading backup of some things < 1434141635 657034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I hoped that other people can make backup off of me too < 1434141657 498018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I might also backup on DVD if I have such thing; currently I have no way to do so) < 1434141799 746155 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434142019 983844 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1434142318 409733 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A common idiom in many prorams I've written seems to be: loop over some sequence, and end the loop by branching to one of two control paths. < 1434142379 92064 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any reasonable way to write such idiom without using either a goto, an exception, or a temprary bool. < 1434142483 177526 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would be easy to write such idiom in terms of coroutines! < 1434142615 60798 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two control paths? < 1434142706 871170 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. Like, one example is suppose you're searching a list for somthing. the two control paths are 'thing found' and 'thing not found' < 1434142725 313603 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same idiom seems to crop up a lot < 1434143229 288670 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I think what I want is a while-if-else statement < 1434143461 541634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :python has a for-else construct, https://docs.python.org/2/reference/compound_stmts.html#the-for-statement < 1434143574 724876 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hell yes that's pretty much exactly what I want < 1434146198 842230 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I check that a number has only one bit on? < 1434146252 756054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x && !(x&(x-1))) in a C code is check that exactly one bit is set < 1434146260 374664 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1434146323 655076 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that works, thank you < 1434146901 407114 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unsigned types and only one comparison: x-1 < (x & -x) < 1434146942 829763 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is -x valid on an unsigned? < 1434146964 797778 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefull < 1434147053 878920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have too many useless warnings already flooding every compile < 1434147057 18388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, unsigned types operate modulo 2^<bits> < 1434147080 178692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434147187 544334 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ちわっすりゃん < 1434147205 260031 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434147283 54373 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, where would you look to find a dialup modem? < 1434147309 56752 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 years ago < 1434147374 678637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly, ebay "modem baud" seems to turn up results. < 1434147386 606641 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Amazon, Newegg, etc. < 1434147392 734865 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They still make 'em. < 1434147393 593050 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to get a bettwr connection directly from this computer to my other one, without going over the LAN. < 1434147427 406901 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1434147429 303745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is next to each other then use a null modem cable? < 1434147446 599784 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434147452 99583 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the LAN is wireless and this house is crap < 1434147455 860321 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a point-to-point link like that just use a null modem cable or even an ethernet cord. < 1434147456 162096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so does ebay "cuneiform tablet" hth < 1434147486 655840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that didn't help < 1434147523 73662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't think it would hth < 1434147542 982648 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should invent a digital storage method for stone tablets < 1434147543 598258 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I hate you so much < 1434147560 433800 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. a weather- resistant one < 1434147587 734101 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthnth -- hate the hater, not the hate. < 1434147600 288119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away < 1434147644 918261 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait cuneiform is clay tablets, not stone < 1434147816 161752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very durable < 1434148612 132174 :nszceta!~nszceta@198.203.28.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434148858 529213 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434149509 760369 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434149568 31472 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434149599 585856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloxandre < 1434149627 949950 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434149812 267945 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :euh... < 1434149817 199529 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeh... < 1434149824 891385 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your family name again? < 1434149831 871270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :johansen hth < 1434149838 642087 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ih. < 1434149844 799954 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :johellonsen! < 1434149848 103781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also: see whois) < 1434149853 638739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(too logical hth) < 1434149856 310828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434149856 486473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 19h 32m 36s ago: culprits lists the lists the? tdnh < 1434149879 698482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434149914 461714 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ../bin/culprits < 1434149924 963046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: ../bin/culprits not under root < 1434149926 56339 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. wat? < 1434150060 952585 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434150079 528831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just assume it was a freak interdimensional glitch from a parallel earth with weird grammar < 1434150138 472224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the glitch meeting means it isn't quite parallel. < 1434150147 70897 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Spirit of Fungot leaked. it happens disturbingly often with shachaf hth < 1434150152 745763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1434150183 222170 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's parallel to everything. especially seven red lines. < 1434150218 688010 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, fungot doesn't answer His Capitalised Name anymore? < 1434150218 968697 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: slib also pretends to provide macro systems that boast hygiene." would have been < 1434150236 164936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ah. unhigienic macros. I should've guessed by myself. < 1434150236 340535 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm installing compilers on university accounts too! < 1434150246 620808 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: dun dun dun! way to go! < 1434150246 796514 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord/ fnord/ fnord): < 1434150255 473597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord fnord fnord fnord :) ♪ < 1434150255 817777 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: got it. use it. you can come up with a zero-knowledge proof of correctness for your interpreter. maybe i can < 1434150289 883205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: he never did < 1434150389 289294 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he never did? < 1434150400 252725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he never did! < 1434150412 240319 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts his sanity. < 1434150427 166159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1434150469 240212 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did you ever not doubt it? o.O < 1434150511 40720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I think if you think you're insane you're probably sane < 1434150529 990261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catch 22 < 1434150533 341554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! < 1434150535 354949 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tsé) < 1434150557 205205 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. int-ello. < 1434150565 759209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i doubt that hth < 1434150571 898965 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebboily < 1434150581 339581 :nszceta!~nszceta@198.203.28.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434150606 46401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you doubt that I think that if he thinks that I'll think it? < 1434150622 422854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.......................... < 1434150636 275746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, that's not what I said < 1434150638 393627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts olsner's sanity, just in case < 1434150654 105121 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you doubt that I think if he thinks that he probably is? < 1434150674 425622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry i think my brain has a stack overflow < 1434150716 500439 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats oerjan. “don't worry, everything'll be fine.” < 1434150728 276058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once someone told me he was going to change his name to Justin Sane, it was already Sane but not Justin < 1434150730 390732 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434150736 992288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's if you don't worry that you really should < 1434150777 859602 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: listen to that, it'll soothe your mental stack → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpREizsftU < 1434150948 495752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gaph fnord gibble ip sneferu spiong < 1434150974 172827 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp. oerjan broke. < 1434151067 773723 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-71-178-164-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434151103 527054 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nszceta < 1434151104 800195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08nszceta: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07<http://esolangs.org/>. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1434151277 806030 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434151307 173730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits < 1434151307 997349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1434151317 205089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilt: hth < 1434151323 235918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oily < 1434151326 686977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1434151371 822632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it all makes sense now! < 1434151398 258521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it also works on other files < 1434151404 835450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits canary < 1434151408 508177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 ais523 shachaf int-e oerjan elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull c00kiemon5ter Phantom_Hoover elliott oerjan shachaf elliott ais523 elliott ais523 nitia < 1434151415 873018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this nitia < 1434151439 753279 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434151442 190199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/list < 1434151443 534319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan Phantom__Hoover elliott Sgeo Phantom_Hoover tswett elliott elliott tswett tswett elliott tswett boily boily metasepia tswett Ngevd oerjan elliott oerjan elliott Sgeo oklopol nortti elliott shachaf elliott Phantom_Hoover monqy Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover shachaf Phantom_Hoover monqy elliot < 1434151476 509424 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-71-178-164-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1434151506 101673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I asked the same yesterday. who's nitia. < 1434151512 419505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1434151512 654334 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:48bb:1ec0:1394:d1ef QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434151513 255432 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whois nitia < 1434151513 486981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1434151513 904673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whois: not found < 1434151518 985291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1434151522 257611 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've lost a treasure < 1434151529 449220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1434151536 175836 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `list is no more! < 1434151542 903587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what? < 1434151560 317545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1434151582 819504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stopped working when HackEgo stopped sharing server with glogbot < 1434151665 781576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, we now have wiki announcements. < 1434151665 957280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1434151833 588271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic transit gloria hackmea < 1434151896 363031 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNGOT! < 1434151906 677125 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continue. < 1434153147 527392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 <b_jonas> (a(b{c}d{e}f)%2g)%2 <-- i think there _is_ an obvious interpretation of that, but unlike the accepted cases it requires a significant memory overhead (e.g. a deeply nested stack) to implement < 1434153147 703113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434153223 584739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 i.e. you need to remember at each nesting level whether you're in a {c} branch or an {e} branch < 1434153223 799945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434153344 562008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 oh wait hm. that case really _is_ ambiguous. < 1434153344 775872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434153378 875669 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hambiguity here. < 1434153405 338267 :OriginalOldMan!4c79b164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.121.177.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434153449 65787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 For what i'm thinking of, you can have more than one {} per % but you still need to respect matching by nesting level. < 1434153449 241507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434153455 525746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I find a proxy that let me to connect to HTTPS servers over HTTP instead? < 1434153542 277512 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: such a thing exists? doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of httpsing your connection? < 1434153614 195646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know but I want such a thing. < 1434153726 879079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some servers always redirect to HTTPS and I don't want it to do that < 1434153743 841264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trying to generate free energy by making security experts rotate in their graves. < 1434153769 145187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I am not < 1434153790 531096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's the sanest possible use case hth < 1434153814 48450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to generate free energy < 1434153975 243962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by not using https whenever possible you are betraying humanity to the NSA tdnh < 1434154012 180930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1434154148 526327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care why can't you provide such a server? < 1434154203 602817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reports zzo38 to the NSA for not using proper encryption against the terrorists. oh wait... < 1434154278 615037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you both not living at all in the USA? < 1434154299 569305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what reason do you have to actively avoid https? < 1434154308 198991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying i should use INTERPOL or something < 1434154350 503791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTPS is causing problems, and some programs don't support it < 1434154390 769039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :report those programs to the NSA hth < 1434154432 766003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software exists to do this with POP3 but not HTTP, and also it isn't a public server < 1434154459 231796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you know NSA can crack HTTPS anyways? < 1434154474 381026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1434154532 47165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION changes all his software to use 1048576 bit keys. that should teach them! < 1434154591 139528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that should do it (hopefully) < 1434154605 663040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I possess the best remedy against NSA. < 1434154631 880040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses a fountain pen and real mulched laminated dead tree sheets! < 1434154743 734057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1434154756 957373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that pen isn't bugged hth < 1434154777 56877 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a demonstrator. clear plastic for easy inspection! < 1434154813 751322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the wires are made of transparent aluminium < 1434154880 6699 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twsbi.com/collections/fountain-pens/products/twsbi-diamond-580al-orange-fountain-pen < 1434154891 168428 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the aluminium on this pen isn't transparent! < 1434154905 974150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aluminium that you can see < 1434154919 269940 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen aluminium is best aluminium. < 1434155294 816094 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the statistically least bugged pen I own is my Airmail 58SL, for having disassembled it completely many times. < 1434155482 88396 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434155522 298192 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you fountain pen? < 1434155535 868372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434155577 482977 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :) < 1434155596 565206 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use? < 1434155895 946700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheaffer somethingorother < 1434155987 278117 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have one somewhere, maybe at my parents'. < 1434156012 281323 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big blue translucent thing, with a nice rubber grip. < 1434156253 636992 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434157175 99654 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434157375 974724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, mine is not like that < 1434157440 396064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? metal, plastic, wood, glass? size? colour? grip? texture? cartridges, plunger, siphon, eyedrop? < 1434157457 932140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :metal body, plastic grip < 1434157485 560137 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :body weigh? < 1434157492 727172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly have no idea < 1434157519 4310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he should add Phantom_Hoover's pen to the The File... < 1434157534 1774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img6a.flixcart.com//image/pen/h/e/g/sheaffer-342-fp-400x400-imad72dcguqcyhbh.jpeg this shape < 1434157541 72700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :though different colours < 1434157564 189118 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nice! < 1434157861 567561 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434158278 127465 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VERMILLION CHICKEN < 1434158379 575567 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434159023 682357 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1434159682 744184 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434159856 287964 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434160713 104290 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434160755 68658 :Patashu!Karma@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434161100 178050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a length of a string literal be figure out in compile-time in a C code? < 1434161384 151734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, using sizeof works if you put -1 afterward I figured out now < 1434162135 390726 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434163063 221752 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434163089 526177 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434163236 427532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434163238 526135 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434163309 235860 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434164030 984987 :Patashu!Karma@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434164080 575469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434164245 282250 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434164986 750358 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sizeof includes the \0 < 1434165293 46259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes that's what the -1 was for < 1434166137 753273 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. this chinese game boy game claims to be final fantasy IV, but I see no resemblance < 1434166288 107916 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the start screen has Cloud on it < 1434166321 933968 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Cool, a bootleg version < 1434166335 598695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it play? < 1434166358 689162 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The graphics are good and the battle system resembles FF1 < 1434166383 264083 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't read Chinese < 1434166499 530243 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434166521 411637 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The start screen reads: 太空戦士IV < 1434166614 719081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, means Space Soldier IV < 1434166667 982036 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which explains why the story appears to involve starships < 1434166790 171555 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the fact that the chinese call space "Great Void" < 1434166802 129329 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english word fro space sucks < 1434167151 776249 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of these unlicensed chinese games are amazing. The one I've played the most is "Thunder Warrior: The Legend of Pikachu" on the NES, which is an apparent port of pokemon yellow < 1434167336 116472 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops that should be "thunder emperor" < 1434167522 571979 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess it can't technically be a port, since they didn < 1434167534 749752 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :t have the source code. a "remake" < 1434168200 826289 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? this game has nothing whatsoever to do with final fantasy 4 < 1434172302 315234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434173952 79318 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434174497 633953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have changed the RDF of the tropes of the level20.tex to now say <Zig-Zagging_Trope> <Footnote_Fever> instead of <Played_Straight> <Footnote_Fever>; apparently, that is what it is if one of the footnotes is referenced inside of a paper that is inside of the story rather than being the book that contains the story? < 1434174576 407202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am pretty sure that <Played_Straight> <Evil_Chancellor> is correct. < 1434174828 585580 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434175953 759865 :OriginalOldMan!4c79b164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.121.177.100 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434176305 148730 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434179451 944913 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434182214 810951 :Elronnd!elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434184074 405308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gulf14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43205&oldid=43170 5* 03160.85.232.100 5* (+8) 10/* Examples */ < 1434184303 139127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BSD license is public-domain < 1434184313 875848 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this mean I can modify the BSD license text and use it? < 1434184566 143356 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume so < 1434184604 436894 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :public domain means everyone has all the rights -- i think < 1434184650 622086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1434184959 389026 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1434184967 932754 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any of you seen the TIS-100 game? < 1434185140 104342 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :K. My fancy looking Gulf website looks quite nice for now < 1434185668 312824 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434186701 141319 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434186721 456592 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434186754 739149 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434186872 467878 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch NICK :peer < 1434186889 921687 :peer!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :All your connection are belong to me and I can reset them any time I want to. < 1434186901 565569 :peer!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch NICK :Guest13639 < 1434187040 331255 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434187212 272736 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434187271 125368 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1434187298 371111 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I'm thinking about writing a programming language based on http://www.xkcd.com/1537/ < 1434187383 57544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems quotes are greedy in that language < 1434187535 748659 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to understand how to implement inconsistent mechanics consistenly. < 1434187548 341879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's mostly consistent, just odd < 1434187582 250451 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :"+2" I believe is because 十 is 10 in Chinese or something. < 1434187588 158366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what [4] and [9] are doing < 1434187602 712034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix, I think it's adding the line number < 1434187609 823651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN, NaO, NaP < 1434187629 144496 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, aaaah < 1434187629 916491 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make sense about adding a line number. < 1434187635 502856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't figure out 9 or 14 though < 1434187649 727438 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand 14 either. What's the deal with disappearing 2. < 1434187655 119190 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[11] is adding 2 to the value of 2, so it writes 4 instead of 2 < 1434187665 465198 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why it's [14] and not [12] < 1434187679 960298 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, classic Fortran. < 1434187682 906815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hah < 1434187689 565784 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number two was replaced with 4. < 1434187690 525197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1434187697 577075 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 NICK :MoALTz < 1434187725 204963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :in [6] and [7], is + being "does not have element" < 1434187737 687430 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in [1,2,3] does not have element 4 < 1434187738 105534 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434187752 485085 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it adds to a set? < 1434187753 926052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess 1,2,3,4 makes a series, 1,2,3,2 doesn't < 1434187761 2318 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :And says whether it succeeded. < 1434187788 348332 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that kiiiind of makes sense < 1434187795 142532 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix, I think that is equivalent to what I suggested < 1434187807 936146 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434189013 356069 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434189088 655126 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434189319 691933 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohayoerjan~~~ < 1434189410 276957 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, ... < 1434189545 562579 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! :D < 1434189555 215798 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mouah ah ah ah ah >:D) < 1434189584 161598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Someone came here talking about TIS-100 the other day, intending to write an emulator for it. < 1434189599 886532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I was going to buy it with the 10% discount, but then I forgot.) < 1434189607 474362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. do you still maintain the fizziegraphs? < 1434189612 616177 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I've been enjoying it < 1434189643 599691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Which graphs were these? I do so many graphs. < 1434189704 248872 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones where there's a dot when we say something in the chännel. < 1434189827 299271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, those. < 1434189836 604571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'v'nt ran them in a while, but I could try. < 1434189867 226628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember how. < 1434189931 447909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :updating target 2, days 2014-03-13 ... 2015-06-12 < 1434189941 84460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it right, and I hadn't run it in a year. < 1434189976 874594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1434190161 308840 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored < 1434190165 577921 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :any new eso ideas out there? < 1434190166 543567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/ should in theory be up to date. Although the list of "very important people" could stand to be updated. < 1434190235 513328 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language where syntax is locale dependant < 1434190240 952301 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND region locked. < 1434190257 464327 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. I can only come up with stupid ideas :( < 1434190266 53004 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guellost13639! < 1434190272 20781 :Guest13639!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch NICK :mroman < 1434190277 585691 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrelloman! < 1434190293 31192 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which regions would lock the syntax? < 1434190317 809258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :postal jurisdictions? they'd be restricting integers to stamp values :D < 1434190333 905423 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :double d = 1,2; < 1434190335 520487 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(good luck writing an international hello, world.) < 1434190337 156239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :double d = 1.2; < 1434190342 758344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on where you live. < 1434190365 717629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that :) < 1434190404 430175 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly even type names have to be written in the local language < 1434190407 691258 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it won't compile < 1434190437 580085 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the language has no writing system? < 1434190443 168195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funktion Haupt Ist Zeige "Hello, world" Ende < 1434190454 816568 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :broad IPA? < 1434190460 963449 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434190464 435067 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be fun < 1434190483 586345 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :language using IPA signs (but in a correct way of course) < 1434190510 418819 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just for english, if you were to support variant pronounciations < 1434190721 941175 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also feel like making Whitespace with Unicode, except using more Unicode, and slightly less stack based. < 1434190735 167162 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny that youtube is becoming a better illegal movie streaming site than the other ones < 1434190745 691988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... illegal depends on which country you live in. < 1434190766 645237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :swiss laws allow "just watching" of all sorts of movies < 1434190851 893725 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, numbers would be represented by U+200A followed by U+2000 to U+2009. The general idea is that U+2000 to U+2009 are command extensions, and other space characters are used for stuff. < 1434190888 18587 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is no need for any sort of separation between functions. < 1434190911 202295 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :And functions know exactly how many arguments they do take. < 1434190967 322867 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, U+200A could be used for code blocks, and code blocks end with U+000A < 1434191050 490426 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for that matter, arrays, because multipurpose commands are great when there is no ambiguity. < 1434191238 988255 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/xfix/77b23164c5cdfff876f0 - hm, that looks quite nice, actually... < 1434191559 62761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boiloha<<< < 1434191635 253889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure that unicode whitespace hasn't been done before < 1434191666 142393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Unispace < 1434191958 639526 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sips his coffee. good coffee. "aaaaah ^^" < 1434191964 98027 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but has it been done with only zero-width whitespace? < 1434191976 521667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1434192093 288391 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434192098 697757 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages that can only jump back in code < 1434192104 858349 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :can they be made turing complete? < 1434192136 962400 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jump back? < 1434192140 401295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: BCT would seem to qualify < 1434192142 236851 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like assembly languages without forward jumps < 1434192157 163586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have one jump, back to the beginning at the end < 1434192160 671829 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other words: You can't skip instructions but you can jump back < 1434192188 271212 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no trivial if or while loops then < 1434192206 492355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: BCT!!!!!!!! < 1434192271 973167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434192307 27755 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for something more human readable/intuitive :) < 1434192360 952741 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in #esöteric. human readability is a side effect. < 1434192361 168071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm brainfuck with do-while instead of while, is that TC or not < 1434192365 715473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot remember < 1434192806 261635 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434192838 922549 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/asHG17GK is more or less what I was aiming for < 1434192869 183727 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that can be reduced to brainfuck with do-while instead of while < 1434192935 1394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all those commands, you might be able to simulate skipping instructions with a flag < 1434193033 659326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434193074 78766 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :by setting src to 1 and use cmp as a flag (either 0 or 1) which determines whether the ADD has any effect or not < 1434193148 892359 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW is there any wiki admin present? < 1434193163 40818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what e-mail address is registered for my account < 1434193182 56408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sadly I have no idea what I chose as a password :( < 1434193301 45900 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or the forget password mail gets stuck < 1434193307 484590 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MARBLED CHICKEN < 1434193418 655173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect i'm not privileged enough to see your email address, but i assume fizzie is < 1434193441 11148 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434193545 636764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jumpback14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43206 5* 03160.85.232.100 5* (+1109) 10Created page with "'''Jumpback''' is an esoteric programming languages with no forward jumps. == Instructions == <pre> MOV dst, src Copy src to dst ADD dst, src Add src to dst SUB dst, src ..." < 1434193732 451646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i sent you a test email < 1434193749 207688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Cc: to myself, so we'll see if it's broken in general < 1434193847 673996 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cc you should see what my e-mail address is < 1434193862 489112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1434193867 521989 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's hope it's not clonkturm@gmx.net < 1434193870 865503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would still be Bcc:ed to you < 1434193889 377312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll see mine, of course < 1434193907 513750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've received any Cc: yet... < 1434193967 103568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think senders are supposed to be able to see the address of the recipient unless they respond, anyway. < 1434194108 618622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie mroman is having problems getting password reset email to work, is outgoing email from the wiki server working? < 1434194108 831935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434194108 832008 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't received anything so far on the e-mail accounts I know of. < 1434194133 276080 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and still have access to) < 1434194202 327427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't received the Cc: either < 1434194232 413601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie I haven't received Cc: on my test mail either. < 1434194232 589358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434194269 345539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie (BTW he's User:Feuermonster) < 1434194269 521251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434194386 605188 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1434194395 44326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that nick dates back to me using the internet at age 12 or something :D < 1434194423 851244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had younger < 1434194437 17758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x13 < 1434194438 388855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19 < 1434194562 663995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from a multi-player 2D game I used to play < 1434194587 44894 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://clonk.de/classics.php?lng=en < 1434194611 603651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://clonk.de/video.php?lng=en&id=cr < 1434194636 848493 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trailer is probably more significant < 1434194650 509648 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since compared to other game trailers it actually shows ingame footage) < 1434194833 738441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it one of those red monsters at 0:43 < 1434194851 644497 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1434194876 801824 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1434194905 379254 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :need a new antivirus: bitdefender vs kaspersy? < 1434194949 507637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually a proprietary 2D game engine with lots of "official" contents and thousands of user-made content < 1434194959 615034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. it was proprietary. It's open source now. < 1434195099 481994 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3oK-kaANk for example is Quake for Clonk < 1434195101 767016 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more or less) < 1434195224 149265 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it was so successful < 1434195477 805149 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there was always just a small core community of a few dozen people < 1434195487 856256 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have all grown old now :) < 1434195529 694124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :until Clonk Rage came out, which gained some popularity and the community grew a lot with young kids for a while < 1434195541 492010 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but young kids today rather play CoD than games like this :) < 1434195562 268372 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly dead now. < 1434195813 70220 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which also applies to the older ones :) < 1434195819 322160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1434195894 970370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah nobody would play a 2d platformer today < 1434195898 662312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the genre is effectively dead < 1434195908 994899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no that's total bullshit it's thriving < 1434195922 641716 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exactly a platformer :) < 1434195934 49172 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :which av do you recommend? < 1434195975 506715 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theres Open Clonk now < 1434195991 492945 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which took the Clonk Rage source code and are trying to create something new out of it < 1434195994 683503 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.openclonk.org/ < 1434196002 656506 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone care about my question? < 1434196021 911531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka, since i have no idea what 'av' means i can't really answer < 1434196029 767146 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-virus < 1434196048 100717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION this time just kept the one that came with windows < 1434196057 32362 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434196107 621734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on my previous laptop i changed _to_ microsoft's av because the one i was using started to get annoyingly nagging < 1434196136 480365 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.openclonk.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Raid.png < 1434196143 757471 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has made some good progress lately it seems < 1434196274 432229 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PART :#esoteric < 1434196417 13462 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting. < 1434196479 488769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this confirms that "access to guns" doesn't necessarily mean more crime < 1434196485 664368 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the people that suck :) < 1434196614 354283 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access to guns means that you get more accidents where you are shitty at gun safety, and your toddler picks up your gun and shoots you < 1434196632 381251 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... not really < 1434196649 218899 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, seriously, that does happen < 1434196660 383282 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you place your gun where a toddler can pick it up you're a fucking moron < 1434196665 712089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434196672 657029 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, it happened to a policeman during a wedding < 1434196676 220690 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how many households have guns in switzerland? < 1434196703 686545 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vast majority? < 1434196713 115084 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1434196734 562280 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"compulsory military service"? < 1434196761 613630 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine less Swiss people are unsafe with a gun though < 1434196766 38418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had three guns at home < 1434196777 930434 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :father's, brother's and the other brother's gun < 1434196782 999009 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :w43 < 1434196803 16348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that _quite_ implies everyone having a gun, it certainly didn't in norway back when military service was genuinely compulsory < 1434196803 849070 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're obviously supposed to take certain parts away from the gun < 1434196811 593500 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and store those in seperate locations < 1434196817 73163 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anybody ever tries to invade Switzerland, Switzerland will win < 1434196840 774179 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well not everybody < 1434196844 459024 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that access to firearms alone doesn't mean high gun violence is pretty widely acknowledged < 1434196849 134526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the ones deemed fit for military service < 1434196867 276617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :since all you need to do to see it is look at the guns per capita and the gun deaths per capita in the usa vs. any other country < 1434196867 508347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ...my point still applies. < 1434196874 122790 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course :) < 1434196892 880558 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I'd be able to get through the physical to get into military service < 1434196893 503900 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody deemed fit enough and still in military service < 1434196895 883686 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I want to < 1434196905 671706 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :old people at some point are retired and they have to give the gun back < 1434196957 414438 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gun crimes are a cultural thing. < 1434196961 981561 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion < 1434196983 981080 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and poverty < 1434197023 888017 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: physical entry exams are usually pretty low demanding actually < 1434197069 353378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I base that on the USMC PFT < 1434197076 965987 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires a mere 3 pull-ups < 1434197088 99293 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :28min 3mile run < 1434197090 624041 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 50 crunches < 1434197150 494272 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.4km is what you should be able to do in 12min < 1434197155 121616 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not even a good score < 1434197194 713009 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2.2k < 1434197207 485621 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good is around 2.5km < 1434197228 12262 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is 3 miles again? < 1434197230 215444 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.8km? < 1434197388 705234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives you 6min exhaustion < 1434197428 542014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: You underestimate how long it's been since I last exercised < 1434197468 939346 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done any 12min runs for the last years either < 1434197474 101961 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't know how I stand there < 1434197504 203273 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do 12 pull-ups. < 1434197528 707419 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've trained that for months now and it doesn't get any better < 1434197540 3074 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assume 12 pull-ups is pretty much my body's natural peek of what it can do < 1434197553 930204 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many pullups I can do < 1434197559 762864 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect it to be good < 1434197566 705608 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without using a specific diet or extra nutrition/protein shakes and the like < 1434197581 524871 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm incredibly lazy < 1434197605 726494 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yeah but really all it takes is like 20min of exercise every other day < 1434197674 382689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to run a marathon < 1434197682 292487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to stay "averagely fit" it doesn't take much < 1434197980 549222 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I don't do 20 min of exercise a day < 1434197997 582718 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My minutes of exercise a day are in the negative numbers < 1434198370 991867 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1434200670 939736 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434200941 253736 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stick with pushdowns < 1434201327 571457 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434203261 558250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434203860 574019 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434204386 418847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/new.html < 1434204400 573091 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to get the webpage back < 1434205218 126156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more good looking than it currently is) < 1434205867 759868 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434205894 614352 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434205914 311205 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1434205914 486973 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434206030 182051 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. it's live < 1434206278 363731 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took the liberty to state that this is the help channel for burlesque :p < 1434206304 742264 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'd expect strangers to suddenly appear here < 1434207010 694962 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heaven forbid, we might have to talk to people we don't already know! < 1434207086 137237 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://mroman.ch/burlesque/hackmode.txt not found < 1434207349 754649 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxztvqoydvzrjsaa JOIN :#esoteric < 1434209052 939538 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1434209531 83803 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have just spent £50 on boxes < 1434210061 18770 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434210287 371278 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434211868 365293 :w43!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434212976 655892 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1434212976 919235 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434213171 632870 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434213185 432264 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THE WORD FOR WHEN YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT SOMETHING THEN HEAR ABOUT IT FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES ALL AT ONCE? < 1434213251 579647 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Phrase "living under a rock" coems to mind < 1434213253 247727 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Coma < 1434213263 741377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not like that < 1434213313 906227 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like "Oh, that's interesting.", then "Yes, Alice told me that the other day." then "Oh, that fact is now on Reddit, huh", etc < 1434213490 675000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to call it synchronicity < 1434213529 800387 :Elronnd!elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1434213558 62693 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434213700 356484 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434213715 727349 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434213715 903166 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1434213715 903317 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434213749 604168 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434214757 471954 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434215552 134496 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1434215735 408514 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434217251 305739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, baader-meinhoff effect < 1434217288 726923 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1434218610 867302 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxztvqoydvzrjsaa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434219838 277903 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At your discretion you may also take the aforementioned code under < 1434219838 492019 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other license, providing that that license does not impose any < 1434219838 945511 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :duties or obligations upon me, Oren Watson. < 1434219854 562248 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does the above sound legal enough < 1434219937 183080 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say "Other licenses available by request" to make sure you don't get screwed over < 1434219971 756212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434219979 188257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well given that the initial license is CC0 < 1434220075 365848 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main issue is people making a license that imposes upon me a duty of care to debug the code for them < 1434220142 295951 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's possible for them to do that, but I want to prevent it in case the powers that be decide it is < 1434220273 572567 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah fuck it, "Other licenses available upon request" is good enough to stop that too < 1434220555 173166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Affirmer offers the Work as-is and makes no representations or warranties of any kind concerning the Work [...]' <-- that should cover your worries (but obviously, I'm not a lawyer) < 1434220592 990999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the CC0 legal text, section 4) < 1434220783 396416 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434220806 966246 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1434220897 244261 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :` ps -axo comm,lstart | grep irssi < 1434220897 734818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1434220906 967993 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -axo comm,lstart | grep irssi < 1434220907 661085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? \ See http://gitorious.org/procps/procps/blobs/master/Documentation/FAQ < 1434220914 379473 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm,lstart | grep irssi < 1434220914 979840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434220933 732958 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego isn't running irssi? < 1434220954 412103 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434220996 497768 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm,lstart | grep bash < 1434220997 109738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash Sat Jun 13 18:45:05 2015 < 1434221029 68663 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, look, I reimplemented the date command < 1434221132 779576 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm,lstart | grep mysqld < 1434221133 364691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434221156 373487 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm,lstart | grep apache < 1434221157 64244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434221161 873686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1434221177 245749 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434221192 593442 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434221242 242296 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm,lstart < 1434221242 975587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMMAND STARTED \ init Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ kthreadd Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ ksoftirqd/0 Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ kworker/0:0 Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ kworker/0:0H Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ kworker/u2:0 Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ khelper Sat Jun 13 18:49:11 2015 \ kdevtm < 1434221264 226336 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm < 1434221264 958828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMMAND \ init \ kthreadd \ ksoftirqd/0 \ kworker/0:0 \ kworker/0:0H \ kworker/u2:0 \ khelper \ kdevtmpfs \ netns \ kworker/u2:1 \ writeback \ bioset \ kblockd \ kworker/0:1 \ kswapd0 \ fsnotify_mark \ deferwq \ init \ init \ init \ sh \ sh \ ps \ cat \ umlbox-mudem < 1434221296 474158 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps axo comm | tail < 1434221297 132089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :init \ init \ init \ sh \ sh \ bash \ cat \ umlbox-mudem \ ps \ tail < 1434221308 481865 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's all? < 1434221773 745969 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps -eo start < 1434221774 349760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ STARTED \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 \ 18:58:02 < 1434221784 725352 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps -eo start < 1434221785 327166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ STARTED \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 \ 18:58:13 < 1434221832 859406 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaan < 1434221833 361492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(°Д°) < 1434221971 689034 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really starts up the whole environment afresh with each command???!?! < 1434222803 875187 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1434222974 413462 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` uname -a < 1434222975 26735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1434223605 43362 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGPR < 1434223605 445988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1434223692 961747 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434223751 34901 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434223822 896577 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434223984 312695 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://airportnavfinder.com/airport/EGPR/ ... have a look at the maps with the three "runways" :) < 1434224056 313396 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surface: dirt < 1434224077 117423 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be 'surface: salt water' < 1434224085 377872 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, one can search for ICAO codes on google maps < 1434224092 352463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: it depends on the tides < 1434224122 316521 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, that isn't an error, wow < 1434224291 13802 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434225380 857376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you make a JavaScript code in a web page that overrides events for clicking links to other parts of the same page? One wiki has problem so I want to override it in the custom script < 1434226259 464479 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :es = document.getElementsByTagName('a'); for(i=0;i<es.length;i++){if(es[i].href.indexOf('#')==0){es.onclick=';'}} < 1434226274 512315 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :es = document.getElementsByTagName('a'); for(i=0;i<es.length;i++){if(es[i].href.indexOf('#')==0){es[i].onclick=';'}} < 1434226345 640769 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently you need to do < 1434226368 137818 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :function(){} instead of ';' < 1434226564 144776 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434227410 127704 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434227463 421523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The onclick doesn't seem to be set already though < 1434227572 742602 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe also set the href to '#'? < 1434227682 915767 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434227692 283751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No the href is already correct, it links how it is supposed to < 1434227717 963066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But clicking those links causes it to immediately go back and then forward again to the linked item, and then if back is pushed it refuses to go back. < 1434227830 440871 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, a # link causes the whole page to be refreshed. < 1434227946 569700 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't want that, you need to override onclick, and set the focus to the linked item, and manipulate the history using window.history < 1434228012 335045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about, events added using addEventListener or so on? < 1434228049 414575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an event which is not on the link itself < 1434228092 418802 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to predict the possiblities, but if you set your own onclick, then consume the event, it won't bubble to enclosing elements < 1434228214 520771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I can try < 1434228589 454999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434228599 678742 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai < 1434228610 884675 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, it's not possible to see listeners added via addEventListener < 1434228787 760285 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emoticons < 1434228788 364236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaan \ kyaa \ shrug < 1434228802 636828 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` head emoticons/* < 1434228803 250219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​==> emoticons/gaan <== \ (°Д°) \ \ ==> emoticons/kyaa <== \ (≧∇≦)/ \ \ ==> emoticons/shrug <== \ ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434228979 910409 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have put in a longer one, < 1434228989 185735 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek ガ━━(゚Д゚;)━━━ン!!!!! < 1434229141 578041 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``cat >emoticons/gaaan <<<'ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン' < 1434229142 95083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `cat: not found < 1434229146 420144 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >emoticons/gaaan <<<'ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン' < 1434229150 297727 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434229179 821044 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaan < 1434229180 312810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(°Д°) < 1434229183 795561 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaaan < 1434229184 269304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン < 1434229237 206668 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaaan is a general expression of severe shock or dread in Japanese manga < 1434229394 727611 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of these jis emoji don't look right in a terminal < 1434229461 972132 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cause your terminal sucks. < 1434229506 896549 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your terminal check the font to see how wide a character is? < 1434229574 918794 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but JIS emoji assume a fixed width font... < 1434229604 185996 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but they also assume that Д is a wide character < 1434229663 636521 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434229672 312635 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just brain damaged. < 1434229684 768247 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they assume that any character outside JIS 0201 is a wide character, < 1434229704 175928 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that is how all fixed-width japanese fonts render < 1434229770 722966 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is... incorrect. < 1434229783 739412 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it shows up fine in a browser if you have the right fonts, but in a terminal, they assume instead unicode width, which fucks it up < 1434229793 80478 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, doh, it's not fixed width it's bizarre proportional width. < 1434229798 294428 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :K, it won't ever work in a terminal. < 1434229821 940409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is a bad idea for terminal emulators < 1434229918 489945 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :EUC-CN is better < 1434229935 293838 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which also means it'll only work rendered with MS PGothic (or anything with similar characteristics) < 1434229962 856660 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Unfortunately, all other encodings suck. < 1434229973 859732 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that Unicode on a terminal is, well, what's gonna happen. < 1434229993 241216 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or really any EUC-XX is better than Unicode for fixed width stuff < 1434230036 722990 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, just means wcswidth is easier. The real trick with terminals really is handling bidirectional text. < 1434230067 438255 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write it backwards. PHP has 'hebrev()' function for this. < 1434230100 50626 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's incorrect. < 1434230103 265348 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could easily write one that works for all R2L languages < 1434230170 879825 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The terminal's supposed to display it properly. Doing that just happens to suck. :) < 1434230424 187363 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how they do arabic in a terminal? < 1434230455 440689 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they just use the isolated form of every letter? < 1434230503 346065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is terrible too though. ASCII is work good < 1434230577 514354 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe they just put the normal string in there. < 1434230628 312184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defining width, kerning, ligature, right-to-left, etc should be defined by the font metric file using whatever character encoding it defines (which is allowed to be Unicode if it wants); the rest of the program knows nothing about this, furthermore these font metric file aren't for terminal but are for typesetting instead. < 1434230662 151751 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This means that libc has to know about the font being used? < 1434230701 110462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, libc ought not to care at all. < 1434230711 985744 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has to know the character width. < 1434230716 59841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcswidth says so. < 1434230732 35919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And should just assume one byte = 1 width unit < 1434230738 583850 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is wrong. < 1434230755 317050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it work for Shift-JIS though? < 1434230758 171464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for ASCII? < 1434230772 772498 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcswidth *does* know the character set. < 1434230801 319875 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, a 4 byte UTF-8 character is not inherently 4 cells. < 1434230823 874986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that, but, it can even be ambiguous too < 1434230833 580014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better is to not use wcswidth at all < 1434230856 10543 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then how do you know the width of a string in units of terminal cells? < 1434230866 571193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is dumb for terminal cells to use UTF-8 < 1434230870 863151 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint, a lot of fancier use of the terminal HAS to know that) < 1434230883 304775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like they said EUC would be better < 1434230888 517893 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's the thing: terminals *in practice* use UTF-8. < 1434230890 183571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also tell by querying the terminal if you need to < 1434230893 868904 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because everything else uses UTF-8. < 1434230907 930646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't, I use VT100 and PC characters < 1434230911 227390 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because everything else is only usable by a subset of humanity. < 1434230953 649040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use an encoding with explicit widths. < 1434230965 664487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Unicode. < 1434230968 26826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need right-to-left, specify by a control code. < 1434230977 413844 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode *has* character width defined, it's just in a lookup table. < 1434230981 661670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode isn't the encoding though, and UTF-8 doesn't have explicit widths < 1434230989 747087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encodings such as Shift-JIS do < 1434230991 145865 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434231027 578568 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except no-they-don't, the rule "1 byte per 1 cell" is not entirely correct. :) < 1434231060 545101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes they don't quite there are other problems too < 1434231119 625573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A better encoding would be: Wide characters are two bytes in 0xA0-0xFF range; narrow characters are 0x20-0x7E or a SS2 or SS3 code followed by any 0xA0-0xFF or 0x20-0x7E code. < 1434231145 851747 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good! It's *stateful*. < 1434231148 286887 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That *sucks*. < 1434231164 672733 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it is entirely correct with a SJIS font! < 1434231179 309820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then also SO and SI, to select additional characters such as line drawing) < 1434231181 586080 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ... Which are proportional, not fixed width. < 1434231183 589847 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434231186 873965 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1434231204 225537 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try the font MS Gothic < 1434231213 29656 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not MS PGothic, MS Gothic. < 1434231225 368215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also degrees, British pound sign, pi, etc are also selected by shift out) < 1434231226 980433 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any other non-P japanese font. < 1434231241 21090 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS Gothic is not the font used for SJIS art. < 1434231276 461045 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct, however it DOES have 1-byte-per-cell when used with SJIS encoding < 1434231280 819718 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ... stateful. Stateful sucks. < 1434231291 139029 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Okay, then that's just terrible. :) < 1434231314 208911 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And means that the rendering of text changes if you convert to unicode... < 1434231319 190721 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't seem right. < 1434231338 945990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you shouldn't convert it to Unicode, except if you are going to convert back to Shift-JIS < 1434231359 267479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is really terrible < 1434231366 861468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII is better < 1434231372 251202 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is significantly better than all alternatives. < 1434231379 480324 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :EUC-CN is better < 1434231381 21290 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you seek to eliminate most languages. < 1434231399 596503 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: If you seek to eliminate most languages. < 1434231420 493417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Unicode fails to encode a lot of stuff properly < 1434231460 546779 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like? < 1434231461 434527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to do it by font-metric files. This way you can define your own metrics for private-use as well as non-private codes. < 1434231472 299108 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434231497 858216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commodore 64 codes < 1434231526 449955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructed scripts (which is done by CSUR; there is also LINCUA which uses private use area for another purpose) < 1434231526 874465 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not "a lot", but sure, that is missing and maybe shouldn't be. < 1434231549 646072 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW constructed scripts *may* go in Unicode... They just mostly haven't. < 1434231572 392212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are many problems with what the various characters mean in situations, which can depend on language and other stuff < 1434231771 777267 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is plenty of room in the EUC codes for accented letters and the like. their omission is purely because the existing EUC codes are country-specific < 1434231794 954828 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck avoiding being country specific while improving Unicode. < 1434231803 695082 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... no, seriously, I wish you the best of luck.) < 1434232097 800770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own design it uses 8-bit codes, but the codes are taken from a user-definable lookup table of 12-bit codes (the lookup table itself uses 9-bit codes though), but it guarantees 1 byte = 1 cell (except control characters which take up no space, but may still move the cursor), correct ordering, etc. This design is only for display though and is not designed for typesetting. (Also some codes can be used for user-defined characters) < 1434232129 321838 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434232146 904658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This code does not include right-to-left languages, but you do have hiragana/katakana, Russian, ISO-8859-1, PC character set, Commodore 64, Apple Mousetext, Infocom character graphics, VT100 character graphics, etc < 1434232171 660760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The control codes are the same too) < 1434232229 687284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can easily know which 12-bit codes are control codes; they are the ones with the three high-bits all set! < 1434232244 845389 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is a middle ground between encodings like EUC-JP or Latin-1 on one hand, and Unicode on the other. Consider if we support a subset consisting of only those unicode characters which are fully composed, do not link into ligatures, and are not copies of another character. < 1434232272 106608 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you still will not handle all languages. < 1434232275 294825 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by copies, I mean to exclude the damned math italics) < 1434232281 123313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: That is useful when you want to encode the text into a format that uses Unicode, such as in RDF. < 1434232322 42587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such subsets can then be used when you want to support only such subsets but make it compatible with program that render/search arbitrary Unicode texts too. < 1434232340 391919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right, but it would support _most_ languages, and in particular those which work well in a grid < 1434232392 795536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, it is useful when you need to convert such text into Unicode, and/or decode it from Unicode. < 1434232516 280962 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could cut it down to 0x7f80 non-ascii characters. < 1434232542 327030 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you could, then the result would be a byte-widthed encoding. < 1434232559 514581 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming the font treats all non-ascii as wide) < 1434232612 329490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it doesn't treat all non-ASCII as wide, you can make some prefixes considered "control codes" which mean ones that start with those are narrow. < 1434232642 882917 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x7f80 = 128 non-ascii start characters, followed by 255 non-zero end characters < 1434232949 747878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434233051 753267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the string contains no control codes and all non-ASCII characters are wide, then it is in fact just the number of bytes = number of cells. < 1434233122 876175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your idea seem like it would be pretty good encoding for terminals. < 1434233133 565985 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434233166 981505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that some narrow characters then won't work, unless you use a "prefix of narrow codes" < 1434233186 863931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it only *slightly* complicated. < 1434233373 635175 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. but at least the width is always <= number of bytes, which is not the case for utf-8 by a long shot < 1434233390 849021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434233391 714861 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote/Quotes are just elements of the quantum dilapidated bogosphere. See qdb. < 1434233433 400047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434233434 308853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep/Sleep is for the weak. < 1434233478 527933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/sleep < 1434233479 856278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1434233508 761230 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434233605 392829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434233606 218773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ants/thants < 1434234229 870249 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzbczqlfbzlribmc JOIN :#esoteric < 1434234385 863710 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternately, for byte-guzzling no-good-niks: use a 14 pixel high, 1 pixel wide font for double-byte characters. transmit any non-ascii character as an image formed from these thin slices. < 1434234486 602169 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1434234937 157973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose for picture terminals it can help, or for a terminal with a picture mode in addition to the standard text mode. < 1434235605 889963 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434235905 995902 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434236022 618973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: nice! I was thinking of using 9 wide 1 high font in text mode to create monochrome graphics once, < 1434236046 774966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I think you can put the Linux text console to such a mode without root permissions < 1434236613 391022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: how about a 4x2 font with the braille subset of unicode... < 1434236640 279670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, this would allow a higher resolution < 1434236652 551227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though only a lower refresh rate than a real graphics mode < 1434236659 754606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a real graphics mode is still preferable < 1434236692 971481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't even use the Unicode there, although making it 4x2 helps so that you can convert it to Unicode at least. < 1434237173 965863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I still have a problem with the braille subset of kanji (though if you're misusing them for graphics, it's irrelevant) < 1434237259 551662 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely that there's no code places yet for the braille cells that extend the normal 6 point cells with two points _above_ the cell, as opposed to below. Those cells are used for "Katenji", the more believable one out of the two experimental systems to encode Japanese text with the kanji fully represented. < 1434237353 818792 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434238060 459049 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434238080 976869 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1434238084 496253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434238084 671802 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434238084 671927 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434238116 725588 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434238142 547771 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434238790 242642 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1434238896 817841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434239035 847890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434239036 649369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo/Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex, thus killing it within a month. He was Doctor Mengele in his previous life, as evidenced by his norn experiments. < 1434239052 426477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metaplace sex < 1434239053 256284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaplace sex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434239145 960435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not bring the carnage here tdnh < 1434239258 544770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1434239260 168867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'metaplace': Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1434239325 240605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; rgrep invented * | grep -v Taneb | sed 's/:.*//' | xargs < 1434239326 111377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey mroman Binary file reflection matches rtf sgeo twoducks unicode < 1434239401 469215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1434239408 679044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflection is not helpful for grep tdnh < 1434239430 728389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1434239474 579764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; rgrep i[n]vented * | grep -v Taneb | sed 's/:.*//' | xargs < 1434239475 507129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey mroman rtf sgeo twoducks unicode < 1434239501 552022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to that back with `logs, i remember < 1434239513 269424 :simpleirc!~simpleirc@c-98-242-60-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434239516 291313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do that? < 1434239537 29529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :munge regexes to avoid them matcing themselves < 1434239547 294581 :simpleirc!~simpleirc@c-98-242-60-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net NICK :trinna < 1434239557 965300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't parse your sentence and then I realized it was probably missing the word "do". < 1434239636 800668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434239641 321821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ♫ < 1434239642 223134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :977) <kmc> ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] <kmc> Domain Name System [...] <kmc> ♫ domain name system ♫ \ 985) <kmc> and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun <kmc> ♫ <kmc> ♫ ♫ ♫ <kmc> (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar < 1434239686 683701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote ♫ | tail -n +1 < 1434239687 344211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :977) <kmc> ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] <kmc> Domain Name System [...] <kmc> ♫ domain name system ♫ \ 985) <kmc> and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun <kmc> ♫ <kmc> ♫ ♫ ♫ <kmc> (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar < 1434239690 698731 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh speaking of DNS, how's the esolangs.org takeover going? < 1434239699 937786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph why can i never remember tail's syntax < 1434239711 122093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-n 1 hth < 1434239732 166196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote ♫ | tail -n +2 < 1434239732 834636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :985) <kmc> and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun <kmc> ♫ <kmc> ♫ ♫ ♫ <kmc> (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1434239740 800361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had an off by one error < 1434239767 944836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like tail has an off by one error hth < 1434239770 155186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the syntax for counting from the beginning instead of the end < 1434239782 181037 :trinna!~simpleirc@c-98-242-60-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1434239785 33060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more annoying is tail -c +1 < 1434239846 622121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1434239847 250681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1434239862 677174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: is that still true outside of CT land? < 1434239876 135639 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434239890 314182 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never be a "natural born US citizen", so yes < 1434239912 336181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither will i :'( < 1434239920 503280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just lobby to change that rule < 1434239930 964557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can be president of the copumpkin fan club < 1434239931 170168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you could perhaps become president of another country < 1434239941 891039 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my other country doesn't have presidents! < 1434239951 66119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which other country? < 1434239953 470185 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK < 1434239961 399139 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also eligible for italian citizenship, which does have a president < 1434239973 228228 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure they allow naturalized citizens to become president either < 1434239985 477271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i was more thinking of finding a country which has no natural-born rule < 1434239999 377228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure norway doesn't, alas we have a king. < 1434240001 524501 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but most countries are sticklers for citizenship requirements < 1434240013 417968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a citizen of three countries which all have presidents. < 1434240014 170570 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I know, I'm only eligible for one citizenship I don't have < 1434240024 483020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I hear it's pretty easy to buy some more. < 1434240026 354395 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the ones you pay for/invest < 1434240039 930002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can be president of Finland either. :-( < 1434240044 959108 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think panama will let me become one if I invest a mere $1m into it < 1434240046 397592 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I THINK that's the last bug < 1434240049 254127 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some comparable figure < 1434240054 486813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for norway you'd have to live there for 7 years unless they've changed that (and getting permission to live there might be tricky for many people) < 1434240092 487093 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yes, the UK would be much more difficult to change. I wouldn't recommend that. < 1434240097 517782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ found the last bug| The Collatz files | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1434240104 448567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ found the last bug | The Collatz files | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1434240108 483866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434240110 711349 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: haha!, wait, are you serious? < 1434240112 835993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote norway < 1434240113 482763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :806) <Phantom_Hoover> unfortunately df is not yet able to simulate norway \ 1087) <Bike> are you saying the rockies and some mountains in norway are the same range \ 1231) <oerjan> i guess norway just isn't cold < 1434240134 970073 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sort of. I don't SEE anyhting worng out of 10 games I've tested < 1434240147 369645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: try for President of Republic in Hungary. there's no requirement that you have to be natural born, you only have to be a citizen and at least 35 years old. < 1434240153 735796 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1434240160 725902 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I get hungarian citizenship though? < 1434240164 491039 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it appears that the scrolling interpolation is bug free. < 1434240166 123940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there countries that don't require you to be a citizen? < 1434240189 128955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might run for president of hungry < 1434240191 203492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you could theoretically perhaps become president of the eu parliament < 1434240206 87964 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess < 1434240206 300158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: ah so you have reached the point where "common usecases almost never break". < 1434240218 494540 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I just be the president of computing perhaps? < 1434240224 524930 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and outlaw stupid computing shit < 1434240245 423323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm....mputing < 1434240247 165238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :outlaw turing completeness < 1434240253 512171 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1434240261 155534 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :outlaw untypes < 1434240262 498659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just outlaw nontermination < 1434240270 774536 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, where "common usecases" includes obscure Chinese unlicensed games < 1434240284 281941 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434240286 430742 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, I don < 1434240313 538425 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :t technically know that it works with nintendo licensed games < 1434240344 929051 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I have long since beaten all those and therefore haven't been playing them... < 1434240360 182876 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all the ones I liked anyeay) < 1434240373 954770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: did you move yet? < 1434240375 820114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I think it's not very hard. you have to claim Hungarian ethnicity, which is the fastest route; or live here for a very long time, which is the slow route; or I think marrying a Hungarian citizen might also work as a fast route; or become a very good olympic class sportsman in a team sport and express your interest in playing in the Hungarian team if only you had citizenship, which is like the fastest express route < 1434240385 372621 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in the next couple of weeks :S < 1434240397 856889 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1434240405 71018 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hungarian background unfortunately, and not very sporty < 1434240408 111385 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd have to live there for a while < 1434240424 323676 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also hear hungary has draconian drug laws < 1434240427 93135 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'm not a huge fan of < 1434240434 638526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: of course, just becoming a citizen isn't enough, getting the parliment to actually elect you as president is difficult. can you have mind control a hundred adults? < 1434240451 286250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I hear just about every country has draconian drug laws. < 1434240459 353691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you don't have to _have_ hungarian background, you just have to claim and be able to fake it a bit. you may have to learn the language and culture a bit, but it's not very hard to do. < 1434240483 781156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: ethnicity is subjective so you can always claim you feel you are Hungarian. < 1434240497 607659 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: particularly draconian ones < 1434240513 268745 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually particularly stupid about that < 1434240521 815449 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: do you have any express route tips for becoming 35 years old? < 1434240536 63857 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a smallish bag o' weed while I was in amsterdam and forgot I had it < 1434240541 471503 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :went all around europe, got down to croatia, then crossed by train to hungary < 1434240546 834383 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :without realizing < 1434240550 874218 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My greatuncle became 18 at 14 < 1434240592 755992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with lots of drugs being illegal by default everywhere, anyway? < 1434240599 865905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think the Chinese can give some hints for that. they supposedly aged some young gymnasts for the olympics illegally. < 1434240606 51776 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear they throw foreigners in jail for years all the time over shit like what I did < 1434240608 488308 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was lucky < 1434240618 973591 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :still clueless, I realized I had it in my hotel in budapest < 1434240622 6827 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figured I might as well smoke it < 1434240623 112269 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I did < 1434240631 767784 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :still didn't get caught, but it would've been bad < 1434240659 108245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're not illegal "by default". they explicitly made them illegal. < 1434240668 189269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434240688 667605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: um, doesn't weed sometimes leave a characteristic small they can find even if they don't catch you red-handed? < 1434240690 751089 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434240694 659496 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know, maybe that's some other drugs < 1434240702 818011 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does, but we smoked out the window < 1434240710 106107 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1434240712 806564 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :weed only smells when it is smoked < 1434240731 758555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: oh yeah, out of the window. that's what all the tobacco smokers say, but you still get the room smelly when you do that. < 1434240748 844931 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess we were lucky :) < 1434240754 134293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't buy "out of the window" unless you actually go to the balcony. < 1434240759 794183 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps if I go back to hungary they'll arrest me on the spot < 1434240761 731080 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. people who smoke (either one) can't detect the smell of their drug < 1434240783 613307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: admittedly, the workers who clean up your room might not recognize what it's the smell of. I wouldn't. < 1434240796 749829 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I just happened to have a pet skunk" < 1434240802 24079 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1434240810 12448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many people know what weed smells like. < 1434240829 796063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have almost no experience with drugs, luckily, so I don't know. < 1434240834 826668 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know because of my parents < 1434240839 915092 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their friends < 1434240846 830204 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :60's hippies < 1434240857 839450 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've smoked <10 times in my life < 1434240863 505745 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun, but I prefer being lucid < 1434240997 384417 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1434241046 718449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434241069 354622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking seems to me like a pretty unpleasant way to consume drugs < 1434241090 715662 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a vaporizer is much better < 1434241163 442547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should say "inhaling". < 1434241170 50159 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only drug I take is coffee and on special occasions alcohol. < 1434241187 544858 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I would not know form personal experience < 1434241200 806577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it depends on the particular drug < 1434241220 617977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are used intravenously, or so I hear < 1434241310 917001 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would suspect that those would be ones that are destroyed by stomach acid? < 1434241331 826447 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can't be brought to high temperatures < 1434241379 469086 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pharmacologist (or pharmacology student) would know < 1434241529 433793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1434241563 174125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> What's with lots of drugs being illegal by default everywhere, anyway? <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs hth < 1434241883 896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a couple others. < 1434242045 625600 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, apparently LLVM is optimizing out infinite loops! < 1434242353 962516 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/0ZZwEKiq < 1434242372 445874 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under -O3 llvm outputs fail < 1434242383 37059 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, the resulting program does < 1434242449 682006 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, IMO, a huge bug < 1434242497 797161 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: make a small testcase, make sure it's really a bug, not some mistake you made, report the bug < 1434242535 222987 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a testcase in the pastebin above < 1434242776 94932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do coroutines in LLVM? < 1434242901 255523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: It should depend whether or not the infinite loop contains any external effects (including I/O, interrupts, accesses to volatile variables, and "do not optimize" flags). < 1434242924 172495 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434242959 925747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oren> hackego isn't running irssi? <-- why in the world would a bot use irssi < 1434242997 957053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434242998 781306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome/wecome in pece. < 1434243003 828566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434243004 663105 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1434243007 373196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434243007 548794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434243008 348360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan/Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1434243008 524084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1434243009 451882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like the worst possible thing to parse the output of < 1434243037 829353 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would say that whether a program terminates is the most fundamental side effect < 1434243039 5260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering making slashlearn use mk < 1434243045 56467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y/n? < 1434243053 827239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: unless it's actually written in irssi script, that is. < 1434243153 2564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: Yes it is, therefore a "do not optimize" flag after the loop also has to avoid it since the loop terminated, reaching the "do not optimize" flag even though it is supposed to be unreachable. This can make it a bit difficult. < 1434243195 535917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise the infinite loop should just be optimized into a single command which specifies that it is an infinite loop. < 1434243238 255580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I say it should optimize it, but rather than removing it entirely, it needs to optimize into a "please wait forever" command. < 1434243282 844346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm all for modularization hth < 1434243296 926368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you're ok using // instead of /? < 1434243303 160334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, the C interface of the instruction architecture and operating system defines what the "please wait forever" command means. < 1434243310 121817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1434243319 935565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say that slashlearn shouldn't be changed in this way; if you need it, use mk instead < 1434243322 381669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it's a feature < 1434243349 542544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i know < 1434243356 628182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make le/rn use / and le//rn use // < 1434243360 971870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by looking at $0 < 1434243392 489254 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like they alread know about this bug, < 1434243443 176707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of how "please wait forever" is defined though, the specification must require that if the command ever returns, what happens afterward is undefined unless the program halts immediately; if it does halt immediately, it must be an error condition if the operating system supports these kind of error conditions. < 1434243461 857392 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1434243462 33127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is allowed to define "please wait forever" as a simple infinite loop too though. < 1434243462 323029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1434243468 848890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1434243538 295787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my opinion: If the infinite loop contains no external effects, it is allowed to optimize it into a "please wait forever" command. Does this seem like OK? (This also mean you can find this command in the optimized intermediate code if you look) < 1434243606 402617 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434243629 131431 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a halt instruction on many architectures < 1434243948 910682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably on most systems it would actually compile into a program that does nothing and never finishes. For LLVM the "please wait forever" command would be considered as terminating a basic block; therefore the stuff after the infinite loop can be deleted by the optimizer. < 1434244145 2795 :boilyphone!~androirc@ip-50-21-136-94.dsl.netrevolution.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434244166 850794 :boilyphone!~androirc@ip-50-21-136-94.dsl.netrevolution.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hello! < 1434244353 189858 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1434244778 932486 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434245102 814833 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434245128 5516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELECT TOTAL(RDF_VALUE(X))/COUNT() FROM G { ? a :Person; :age ?X }; -- That is a kind of "SQL+G" that I almost made up (but didn't implement), so that you can combine SQL with RDF. < 1434245141 700488 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1434245141 915912 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434245468 546341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assumes that you have already issued a CREATE PREFIX or CREATE TEMPORARY PREFIX command to define the empty string prefix.) < 1434245724 117972 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1434246329 831892 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434246908 539994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434247465 400162 :boilyphone!~androirc@ip-50-21-136-94.dsl.netrevolution.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434248483 930276 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434248715 538478 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434248769 550947 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434248966 297628 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. My algorithm does the most work when there isn;t any work to be doen < 1434248995 302377 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to cahe the results somehow < 1434249088 963066 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only need like, 2 bits < 1434249111 315624 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some expensive bits to compute < 1434250069 810825 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434252614 168266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434253503 703978 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434253503 915805 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434254563 351675 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good midnight! < 1434254820 970200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning < 1434255631 338472 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434255648 498114 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1434255853 636974 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434257036 224057 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434257381 825543 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434257605 540509 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1434257757 426828 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434259410 12238 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzbczqlfbzlribmc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434260743 50717 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tudxmldwasyelifs PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1434265439 201878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: What is that? < 1434265493 955516 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434265568 706539 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tudxmldwasyelifs PRIVMSG #esoteric :mfw < 1434266523 588014 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tudxmldwasyelifs PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm writing a VM and and and it just did a correct operation < 1434267078 353117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434267956 67946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't I post a comment on http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/10/god_shot_think.html ? It displays an error message but the HTTP response code is actually 200 OK < 1434267967 889481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Got an error: Bad ObjectDriver config" < 1434268088 808546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henn is bad too, but that is not seen in the pictures displayed there. < 1434268147 362899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As far as I am concerned, you can see from the full context that Suzy and Henn are both bad.) < 1434270147 36082 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434270640 730385 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1434270696 611228 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul2520: Oh. hackmode has been removed from Burlesque anyway. I'll remove the link. < 1434271060 206504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what is that hackmode that has been removed? < 1434271418 526599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434272612 108174 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434272676 222066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434272750 356476 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It mapped Burlesque commands to single bytes < 1434272770 758152 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since Burlesque now has way more than 256 commands < 1434272776 653208 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was removed < 1434272798 443795 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 388 non-special builtin-ins as of now. < 1434272948 135998 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although 1.7.3 probably had less < 1434272975 684201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7.3 has 340 < 1434273077 988645 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm updating the lref for 1.7.4 now < 1434273085 353241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then maybe I can convince shinh to update it on anagol < 1434273156 659505 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434273639 195395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still use Huffman coding or VLQ coding < 1434273837 798990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make secure communication on internet what you should need is to avoid webpages completely and instead do this: Manually agree the keys in person, including a security card that displays a number and automatically updates by time. Server sends a challenge that is encrypted using a hashcode of your password and the security number as the key. Client then responds to the challenge and communicates securely using session keys. < 1434274117 6778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you are paranoid, use two such security cards; one locked in your desk drawer and one in your pocket.) < 1434274397 955500 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netflix seems paranoid < 1434274403 552228 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't even support paypal well. < 1434274435 277001 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meaning you can't pay with paypal pre-paid) < 1434274807 189684 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434276195 481821 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US could just ban toy weapons... < 1434276282 799922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43207 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+2001) 10PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC < 1434276332 680466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43208&oldid=43068 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+55) 10PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC again < 1434276599 838246 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434276629 610552 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although arguably there should be better methods to take such people out without injuring them too badly. < 1434276704 432069 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't give pellet guns to 12 year olds. That's stupid anyway. < 1434276943 188842 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general I don't like people who accuse you of doing something wrong without first discussing what should've/could've been done. Even if you clearly did something wrong, it's not a constructive thing to do. < 1434276951 937131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434277090 308140 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it looks like the us police's method is "disable threat as quickly as possible" < 1434277098 696343 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to "isolate threat as quickly as possible, then proceed" < 1434277172 958005 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is of course incredibly generalizing and based on no data other than some of the news report I got my hands on ;) < 1434278514 783665 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Zork < 1434278516 638276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zork is like York, except for the first letter. < 1434278517 953782 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? grue < 1434278518 683491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grue is the colour of the trees and the ocean < 1434278522 102031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Metaplace < 1434278522 819580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1434278664 957336 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I notes again... and is that a universal currency over there? < 1434278928 64156 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434279001 876074 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434279239 107546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan your underhanded attempts at symbolising the Wisdom won't mar it! < 1434279239 320111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434279282 66310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan (on the other hand, syntastic is complaining like crazy) < 1434279282 242058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434279575 103760 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looks like I'm missing some other stuff. stuff that will be fixed after lots of coffee, nutella toasts, and half a tournament. < 1434279646 800771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434279806 635188 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434280715 790577 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434282337 935748 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SUBCOMPACT CHICKEN < 1434282954 476209 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434283750 608565 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434283974 460069 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434284515 760803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434286528 47359 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1434286535 892607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: about or? < 1434286536 133128 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: we're wednesday and the earth!! god bless america!! i want a cl/ fnord thing there. < 1434286568 913707 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least fungot seems to be patriotic. < 1434286569 190444 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it was close. because of erlang's guard clause syntax, it's a catastrophe. between that book, actually. < 1434286597 984120 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434286616 869378 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434287829 354903 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434288068 928108 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434288140 310942 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434288265 387741 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1434290448 344982 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434290463 119356 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434290575 910296 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434292809 183167 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone, remember boiljan? < 1434292891 50890 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434292918 76008 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434294421 574060 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434294937 564556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick question. can a 400 character long alt text written literally in a HTML attribute cause any compatibility problems on browsers? eg. could it cause the image not to show up? < 1434294992 998469 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434295014 842154 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434297083 831221 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434297115 237115 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434297158 363581 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434297178 708682 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434297800 993644 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434299327 539428 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434300220 575974 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434300383 314969 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: IME even on super old browsers, long alt text tags just get cut off. < 1434300622 379656 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. Paradoxically, the cpu load is higher when memoizing previous results, than when computing them over and over again < 1434300665 770053 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tudxmldwasyelifs QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434300680 542070 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434300684 611643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: ok, thanks < 1434300714 47200 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I was worried that maybe some parsers will reject the whole entity because it's too long, and assume it's an unescaped less than sign < 1434300749 260689 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be, but the last time I saw a problem with an alt-text, it was that exact one, and it was in the days of like, Netscape Navigator. < 1434300764 748262 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible a newer one might be more likely to complain than an older one. :D < 1434300803 680696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if the alt text is just truncated < 1434301437 359208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434302505 983666 :password2!~password@197.77.75.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434302914 230715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Genesis14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43209 5* 0378.148.92.128 5* (+65937) 10Created page with "Genesis 1 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God mov..." < 1434303144 386471 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, that doesn't look like an esolang... < 1434303241 759845 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be narrow-minded, now < 1434303519 509088 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: long, unintelligible, prone to contradictions, and impossible to assemble a coherent logical system from. Sounds like an esolang to me. < 1434304343 75819 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Along with features that should never be used (such as a certain type of tree), yet are anyway? < 1434305086 970720 :password2!~password@197.77.75.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434305313 903167 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434305340 220266 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434305365 142349 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl Cannot Be Parsed: A Formal Proof http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=663393 < 1434305502 381141 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434306025 750365 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434306040 734441 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434306847 138415 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434307358 855541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a type of oracle that can answer questions that could not be answered with the use of a halting oracle? < 1434307403 222262 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-195.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1434307431 119295 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fundamental Truth Oracle < 1434307511 486333 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Turing-machine-plus-halting-oracle halting oracle. < 1434307806 344182 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-195.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetical_hierarchy < 1434307851 116116 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i meant without assuming omniscience. < 1434307886 156285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: i don't understand < 1434307887 719958 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: then you don't have an oracle? < 1434307923 707403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a halting oracle is not omniscient! it can tell you if your program halts, but it can't tell you your middle name. < 1434307942 578070 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: right. go with pikhq's answer then < 1434307963 868989 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My middle name is Joseph iff your program halts. < 1434308086 926397 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434308087 550880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. my program was "if (pikhq_middle_name == "Joseph") exit(0) else: while true: pass" < 1434308128 796236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a remarkable coincidence < 1434308146 432040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now that the universe is inconsistent, let's have some fun... < 1434308190 309924 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing pikhq's middle name has no bearing of the contents of the string pikhq_middle_name... < 1434308209 663043 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let's convince a bank that 1 = 0, say, and use that fact to withdraw tons of money... I suspect there is some sort of flaw in that plan) < 1434308329 241225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.xkcd.com/816/ < 1434308340 313054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see title text too) < 1434308432 898399 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1434308808 195503 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434308808 758734 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially read the title text, it points out a flaw in your plan < 1434308918 643657 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434309285 771370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1434309329 982458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had forgotten about this xkcd although it looks like one that I should've remembered. < 1434310003 889733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect a bank to believe it; and even if they do it would be for number systems (such as the trivial ring) which is not applicable to how much money is in your bank account. < 1434310012 145762 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434310028 784898 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434310133 72657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/704/ is also relevant < 1434310197 123748 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, if anything can be derived, does that make Malbolge usable by humans? < 1434310727 754631 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Perl parses Perl then Perl must not be unparsable < 1434310902 214979 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: The point seems to be that you can't parse it without executing it to find out the meanings of some parts. < 1434311126 144055 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say parsing Perl is computationally equivalent to executing a universal Turing machine. < 1434311287 626530 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434311387 993395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only Perl, but also Forth and TeX < 1434311578 832086 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, im not sure about that < 1434311583 680644 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no functions in perl take arguments < 1434311591 660184 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub x {...} < 1434311780 650524 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: they don't take NAMED arguments < 1434311811 931204 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however when you call x with x(3,4), then inside x, you can get 3 and 4 as < 1434311831 414743 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_[0] and $_[1] < 1434312249 795743 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434313278 345986 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434313426 596163 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434313631 778771 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nlxybwegrxbbswsi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434313989 841229 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Combientièm. < 1434314016 861092 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combientièm is, of course, unparseable, for the same reason that Forth is. < 1434314137 451013 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combientièm seems complex enough that Turing-completeness is likely. < 1434314809 849496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have implementation of biquad filter with four coefficients and I figured out that you can use -1 0 0 0 BIQ and 0 0 1 0 BIQ to seem to make up derivative and antiderivatives. < 1434315519 135252 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434315654 835061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434317479 685125 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434317709 136534 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434317769 689040 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1434317937 277565 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434318027 826620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn equal temperament/Equal temperament is just intonation that's evenly spaced. < 1434318033 691364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «equal temperament» < 1434318102 932086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318104 339393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nimby/NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1434318105 75524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318105 963819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrow/Arrows are just strong monads in the category of profunctors. < 1434318107 302478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318108 148059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtf/RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1434318149 293298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :culprits wisdom/rtf < 1434318163 223635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/rtf < 1434318166 616992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434318173 869917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by the phone < 1434318192 617256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who Rich Burlew is < 1434318275 398885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He makes olist. < 1434318309 577353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now I can see on Wikipedia < 1434318319 164181 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits tanebvention < 1434318320 498674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434318324 297752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He makes stick figures. < 1434318326 940234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tanebvention < 1434318328 224926 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Taneb oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan FireFly oerjan boily oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan < 1434318339 988790 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Oerjan < 1434318389 680221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use miniature figures for Dungeons&Dragons though, just graph paper < 1434318396 263531 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/tanebvention | sed 's/\<[dop]/:&/g' < 1434318397 924083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:oerjan Taneb :oerjan elliott :oerjan :oerjan FireFly :oerjan boily :oerjan ais523 ais523 :oerjan < 1434318405 554018 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was a bit disappointing < 1434318438 77608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to do? < 1434318446 915030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, when I play we generally just sort of imagine it < 1434318462 919611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we need reference we use miniatures on an erasable surface like a whiteboard < 1434318493 366119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I play also we just generally imagine it, but use graph paper when we want to know where everything is in relation to other things more precisely. < 1434318545 658359 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In one of the games we are in we are hiding in an airship meant as a decoy for us (arranged without our knowledge) < 1434318559 727152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The logic being that no-one would think to search the decoy < 1434318607 610904 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jsowkhzlxzclcupk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434318620 484576 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hwdgintcmonoktsn JOIN :#esoteric < 1434318706 876608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is one idea of where to hide. < 1434318728 983358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318729 927444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin/orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line. < 1434318734 470059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318735 358588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lystrosaurus/lystrosaurus is a genus of Late Permian and Early Triassic Period dicynodont therapsids, which ruled the world around 250 million years ago. < 1434318738 611217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318739 439499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin/orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line. < 1434318754 340129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318757 239049 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdt/That doesn't tdt. < 1434318771 466549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318772 371047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ørjan/Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1434318796 718165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally though in my game when we hide, they often find us anyways because enough people are looking for us with enough persistence that they will eventually succeed. But sometimes I decide to hide in the future instead. < 1434318825 498064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ørjan < 1434318826 864042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf shachaf < 1434318835 740595 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, none of our party are time travellers (yet) < 1434318870 103503 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the party's wizard may become a time traveller later) < 1434318876 133578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can jump forward in time and take some other creatures and objects too, but that uses up power points and it doesn't go all that far either. < 1434318910 807241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have hidden objects in the future too, not only characters) < 1434318911 398994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318912 364143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren/oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. < 1434318914 430700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318915 304277 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :structsubural type/Something Bike is into. Not to be confused with suburban destruction. < 1434318934 258243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434318935 124192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alice/Alice doesn't want to go among mad people. < 1434318936 43580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a time traveller wizard? nice < 1434318954 499329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, power points? are you a psion? < 1434318962 251978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It isn't very powerful time travel < 1434318968 914643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, psionics and wizard, both < 1434318976 346722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTH? < 1434318984 806555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who do both psionics and wizardry? < 1434318987 462240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's strange < 1434318993 974152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434318999 738228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a combination I wouldn't have imagined < 1434319002 396540 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, our wizard is also a rogue < 1434319011 329392 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character is just a cleric though < 1434319017 708449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my sister played a sorcerer/fighter combination < 1434319041 601104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in what order did that happen, and what are the relative power of your relative strengths in psionisc and wizardry, and what did you do that helps both? < 1434319044 248379 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep a "kill" count of enemies I have forced to leave combat (I am playing as a pacifist) < 1434319049 150908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is on 17 and I am level 3 < 1434319051 72841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use many magic items? do you create magic items? < 1434319059 732020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use many magic items or create any < 1434319071 638313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refer to my "level20.tex" file for full details. < 1434319079 768321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can understand sorcerer/fighter < 1434319088 216037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, what's its url again? < 1434319089 995060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, which edition do you play? < 1434319129 357568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started without a spellbook, and therefore couldn't cast many spells except the mastered spells, until finally figuring out the spells again in spare time and writing them down in a book. < 1434319143 116167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1434319155 111505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in a game of 4th edition (where I play the pacifist cleric), and a game of 5th edition (where I play a paladin who is not pacifist) < 1434319169 671076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The file is pretty long; read all of it if you *really* want to understand) < 1434319222 819188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote all of the macros by myself too, which includes sorting skills in alphabetical order automatically, keeping track of items and levels, footnotes, and more < 1434319318 160317 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight everyone < 1434319336 94363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good day everyone < 1434319501 622783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started the game without any items at all. < 1434319537 981471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did my brother's character, Also < 1434319542 850152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also is his name) < 1434319581 919415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you start as a wizard? < 1434319606 156934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434319613 274822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434319613 450453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says so on the page < 1434319619 495590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I started with enough levels to have both < 1434319633 394046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, right < 1434319662 941449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be reading the character sheet at the start < 1434319690 500049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The .dvi is available too if you want a prerendered copy; that one only includes the character sheet at the end though.) < 1434319713 836183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks, tex is easier to read < 1434319726 571687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can probably tex it < 1434319738 551336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want a character sheet before each session, you must compile it youself; it will then ask you what level of detail you want, such s to omit footnotes and to omit character sheets and so on) < 1434319775 829396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To compile it yourself you need the "dungeonsrecording.tex" file too (in the same directory) < 1434319784 946041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, these starting ability scores seem funny. are those normal for an illithid? < 1434319805 917618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't he supposed to have a dump stat or something? < 1434319810 987707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the "Goldilock's Method", which is something in between random and point-base < 1434319838 558583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And a program on my TI-92 calculator to calculate it) < 1434319872 875991 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but did you get adjustments for being an illithid? < 1434319878 902120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434319924 764637 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434319933 893044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are factored in to the "Goldilock's Method". < 1434319952 452472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you also get bonuses for high level too. < 1434319999 236712 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but even with high level it seems to high and too uniform < 1434320012 300539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very high level character would likely have a dump stat < 1434320128 758074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When characters have high ability scores due to species the level adjustment compensates for this (and other things) < 1434320131 577985 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434320149 480957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434320159 65599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason for being uniform is mainly due to the Goldilock's Method though; it is possible to make less uniform scores, but not always. I can explain its working < 1434320200 431832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have two dump stats in real life. I don't know how easy it is to guess that from irc.) < 1434320221 889489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I also don't know how easy it is to guess; I never tried to think of it so I don't know < 1434320228 791718 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434320272 726034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(People who know me well in real life can probably tell.) < 1434320360 998185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1] Choose a number 0 to 9 for each ability score (there are no limits about duplicates, the total, etc). [2] Add 1d8 to each one. [3] Convert each of these numbers into percentages of the total. [4] Use a lookup table to convert into plain numbers. [5] Apply racial modifiers. [6] Repeat steps 2-5 to create another set of ability scores. [7] Choose one. [8] Get 2 bonus points (or 3 if the total without the racial modifiers is less than 70). < 1434320365 311757 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see! you get psionic abilities not from a player class, but from a race class! < 1434320369 231345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes much more sense < 1434320384 54693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434320423 550156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say this method results in unusually *low* scores. Actually, they result in about average scores, although you don't have as much control as you do with a full point-based system. < 1434320454 169337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, full point-based gives you ultimate control < 1434320455 248070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The numbers you choose in step [1] are too high, they will become more uniform than you might want. < 1434320486 880683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they are low, then step [2] will screw them up < 1434320517 713504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best is probably choosing high numbers for scores you want high. < 1434320533 763408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But remember you do get two chances to apply step [2]. < 1434320603 897605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are racial modifiers constant terms you add? or are they more complicated? < 1434320629 669644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are constant terms (usually even numbers) that you add (or sometimes subtract, but subtracting is rare when the level adjustment is high). < 1434320657 137820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recognize most of these psionic abilities and some of the spells, but that's normal < 1434320691 579281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are obscure. < 1434320717 883746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a few of them I even made up and got reviewed from the referee and other people. < 1434320771 197263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, this is the non-flying type of illithid. that's why it has feather fall. < 1434320821 148276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't get this. how many levels of each class do you have? I don't see that in the character sheet. < 1434320861 33140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what the \Class command does. < 1434320884 806305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The \RacialHD are also levels, and \LevelAdjustment are pseudolevels. < 1434320900 737740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so, both \Class Wizard=5 and \RacialHD=8 < 1434320902 281786 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1434320933 37336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't \LevelAdjustment the challenge rating (difficulty) adjustment, which adjust how much XP you get and what encounters are considered fair? < 1434320952 970414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, level adjustment is independent of challenge rating (which we ignore). < 1434320955 628556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/encounters/encounters and other challenges/ < 1434320961 477275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For calculating experience points, pseudolevels count too; for other purposes (such as the amount you heal), pseudolevels aren't counted. < 1434320979 540002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434320998 887691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the experience points tell what challenges are considered fair, do they not? < 1434321044 388591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They generally are supposed to (LA is for PCs and CR for NPCs is generally the consideration, kind of), but our group just ignores CR and uses only ad hoc XP. < 1434321063 957792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434321084 732103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that applies both when you defeat a challenge and get XP, and when you are defeated and someone else gets XP from you, right? < 1434321118 944052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The winner's LA and loser's CR is generally what is supposed to apply. < 1434321136 224256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But NPC's XP are rarely kept track of, but sometimes are) < 1434321167 43446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does that mean that in this game your level adjustment only matters if someone gains XP from from you? < 1434321170 449050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1434321175 203040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said the winner's LA < 1434321189 222637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean the adjustment tells how much XP you need to get the next XL? < 1434321193 397163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Level adjustment is used to figure out how much experience points you need. < 1434321199 374399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right! < 1434321212 969894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if you use ad-hoc XP then that probably doesn't mean much either < 1434321214 479310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So your total real levels + pseudo levels is the level that you need to reach by experience points. < 1434321227 921640 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for the explanation < 1434321259 107543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it *is* important; it makes it harder to go up levels, and whatever level you start at, the level adjustment therefore decreases your starting level (but not your experience level) to compensate. < 1434321309 655444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but the input is the ad-hoc XP < 1434321322 4845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, plus the starting level. < 1434321360 574375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just as well track ad-hoc fractional XLs, without counting XPs, and give the ad-hoc XLs so it's harder to level (but also harder to lose a level from spending XP) < 1434321395 369237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think that is more complicated though and makes it difficult < 1434321401 745140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1434321425 981488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, a player enters a game starting at level 10, and chooses a character with LA+3 and RHD+2, they get to create a 7th-level character with 5 class levels, but starting with as much experience points as a 10th-level character. < 1434321496 417170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are using the encounter XP tables, the experience level is the one that counts here. (If you aren't, then it is irrelevant unless the referee still wishes to scale by level, in which case you should probably still use experience level) < 1434321561 789927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example character will be vulnerable to spells that affect 7th-level characters (even if they don't affect 10th-level characters), will heal only 7 HP per day (rather than 10 HP), and so on. < 1434321640 635199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? there's a racial HD adjustment that can be positive for players? and isn't it the starting CR rather than the starting XL that's supposed to be specified, rather than the starting XP? < 1434321648 208867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own game design (which is extremely incomplete and mostly abandoned) doesn't use the term "level adjustment", but it does have "pseudolevels" which is the similar concept. < 1434321684 828065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, there can be. And it is the starting experience level which the game master specifies. < 1434321695 705754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's strange but ok < 1434321710 520493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, specifying starting XP also implies what the starting experience level is anyways.) < 1434321720 565109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I mean starting XL < 1434321756 452162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it seems you specified the real starting XL, rather than the one adjusted with the LA. < 1434321763 144206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I find strange < 1434321795 199375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The LA makes makes the actual level less than the experience level. < 1434321846 407436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For balacing purposes it is common to specify the starting experience level or experience points instead of only counting real levels. < 1434321848 125888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess specifying a starting XL is also how crawl works, < 1434321858 453455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a single-player game < 1434321889 172830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it approximately equal _adjusted_ levels that would make a better adventuring band of player characters? < 1434321916 191343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is; the term "level adjustment" is a bit confusing and I don't like it; it should be called "pseudolevels". < 1434321926 403692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434321952 587065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is why the CR and the adjusted level are separate < 1434321957 186468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. actual levels + pseudo levels = experience level) < 1434321973 890790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the adjusted level tells how fast you gain levels, the CR tells how powerful you are < 1434321977 388168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1434321987 198263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you share XP equally, then you'd level equally if you had the same adjusted level < 1434322006 729712 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/share XP/share XP gains/ < 1434322038 420986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use encounter XP tables and have the same experience level, and you share them biased by level, you do all level equally. < 1434322089 527673 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe all that's irrelevant here because you have only two players and they're both of races with a high positive adjustment < 1434322089 744644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if your experience level is 10, it is as hard to level up as any 10th-level character, even if your actual level is only 5. < 1434322099 363396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not, like, a doppelganger and an orc < 1434322136 631431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually more players join the game later, and some also leave later. Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe is the only character that remains (so far; possibly one of the others might return later?) < 1434322157 630057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for how long in real world time has this game been running? < 1434322165 393104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the session headings. < 1434322189 793498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Search for the first and last instances of "\session" in the document.) < 1434322201 448859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434322211 992350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then subtract the dates. But remember it still isn't complete, so you might want to use today's date instead) < 1434322258 331278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically about four years so far < 1434322285 344315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend also improving the story line, and I have a trope page (and trope RDF file) about it too. < 1434322301 582072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trope RDF file, hehe < 1434322405 539041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/User:Zzo38/level20.tex < 1434322418 784636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the trope page on wiki. < 1434322427 654894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I won't look at that now < 1434322461 446415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you can look later (or not at all if you really hate to look at it ever, but you are allowed to change your mind later too) < 1434322474 234629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the RDF is: http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.trope < 1434322653 361353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, I just spent most of today (and some of yesterday) standing in awe because of the new special and awesome MLP episode, finding more and more awesome details and references in it (sometimes alone, sometimes after reading spoilers) < 1434322687 909994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. < 1434322688 85616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to attempt looking at any other fiction work in detail now < 1434322826 684549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434322939 765717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a deliberately very unique special celebratory episode that's different from normal episodes. < 1434322950 201601 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434322985 372793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally didn't expect this, and it's awesome. < 1434323002 547176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is tihs episode? < 1434323054 566819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's S5 E9 "Slice of Life" (gimmick scheduled for this particular episode because it's the 100th ep of the tv series) < 1434323081 663367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1434323081 839168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 10m 43s ago: your underhanded attempts at symbolising the Wisdom won't mar it! < 1434323081 839254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 10m ago: (on the other hand, syntastic is complaining like crazy) < 1434323089 117890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1434323104 157778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's an episode celebrating and thanking the unique fandom the series (in slightly broader sense) has gathered < 1434323165 655939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does this by presenting a story where the regular main and secondary characters appear very little, several background characters are expanded, and canonizes a selection of fan speculation about them < 1434323215 870829 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has lots of (sometimes well hidden) funny little details, references to previous episodes of the series, and references to fanon < 1434323222 992664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so that's what it is. < 1434323231 390394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some references to other fictional universes < 1434323252 110027 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it manages to be heartwarming and amazing according to many people < 1434323259 94308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a lot of people like this TV show. < 1434323275 141192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously you can always find some people who don't like any one particular episode, there are a few for this too) < 1434323283 258137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: those must be some strange people < 1434323283 589029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can't go for universal acclaim) < 1434323291 636720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1434323296 60093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also i need my brain's parser recalibrated) < 1434323327 978483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, this may happen even with other TV shows too, chapters in a book, comic strip, whatever, where some people might not like some of them, even people who mostly like it in general. < 1434323328 703975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, in particular, a lot of geeks are watching it, so there's even a little intersection with #esoteric < 1434323349 747531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, given that they did this for the 100th episode, it will likely be unique even in the future < 1434323350 950963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware, yes. < 1434323363 434876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not something they'll regularly do < 1434323365 974891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's my guess < 1434323386 622427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the way how many geeks seemed to like it is what made me interested in first place < 1434323409 670211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1434323438 980302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas < 1434323444 149152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well, the way how many geeks seemed to like it does seem a reason to make it worth a try at least to look at it. < 1434323480 807969 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and, I mean, they looked like they were the kind of geeks similar to me (at least some of them are) < 1434323495 793354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1434323551 550111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently it has a lot of role-playing fans < 1434323600 608981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps that I knew even before that that I like cartoons and like fiction that's advertized by publishers for juvenile audience < 1434323618 536312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those heuristics matched < 1434323709 553928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the music of the first four seasons is nice < 1434323709 982986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, like any one, some cartoons/fictions I like and some I don't like much. It is also a bit independent what kind if intended/advertised audience, too. < 1434323736 520208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, some TV shows have nice music on it < 1434323745 917195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the "advertized for juvenile audiences" might be a red herring actually < 1434323753 856874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some computer games have nice music < 1434323761 930987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, I have been told that too < 1434323840 354695 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I don't like romantic fiction at all, and romantic fiction is usually advertized to adults, which alone carries a lot of weight < 1434323867 162005 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I definitely grown to hate most non-fiction works advertized to children or teenagers these days < 1434323879 113575 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, pop science books for them < 1434323892 417401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to sort of like them as a child < 1434323918 916021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is pretty similar for me too I think < 1434323948 43218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily <boily> @tell oerjan your underhanded attempts at symbolising the Wisdom won't mar it! <-- actually i checked that the quotes already contained that note character. < 1434323948 255901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day I realized Quittner Pál's booklet about popular physics contains a gross factual error where it explains sea tides might have contributed < 1434323948 255978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434323977 87235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously it may have been that I had more time reading and discovering more authors to read when I was young, and less tiem now < 1434324015 109949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I found a lot of good authors whose works are supposed to be for children, and have difficulty finding new authors I like < 1434324037 861592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did I mention I watch few films and TV series, and prefer reading books? < 1434324075 550264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do actually don't watch TV much, and prefer book < 1434324135 331035 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1434324576 769657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Genesis10]]": Off topic < 1434327436 399765 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order, I prefer: Video Games > Manga > Books > Movies < 1434327586 325419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, it is not going to be that simple < 1434328070 247718 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PART :#esoteric < 1434328109 908856 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434328317 815759 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434329063 622786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bollihey < 1434329155 878000 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœørjan! < 1434329161 752093 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434329161 927908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1h 26m 53s ago: <boily> @tell oerjan your underhanded attempts at symbolising the Wisdom won't mar it! <-- actually i checked that the quotes already contained that note character. < 1434329173 967624 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. nice attention! < 1434329201 343579 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434329219 846702 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434329228 100595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro! < 1434329473 263214 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nlxybwegrxbbswsi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434330115 269096 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434330500 260412 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434330744 255989 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434331017 307669 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CONNECTING CHICKEN < 1434331920 790641 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1434331931 725262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434331979 280178 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434332378 877870 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm training another neural net on #esoteric. < 1434332386 837867 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far the net is very stupid indeed. < 1434332395 225232 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The longest English word it has successfully produced < 1434332399 132378 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh. < 1434332409 753107 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the longest English word it has successfully produced so far: "er" < 1434332433 736166 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The output resembles English insofar as it contains a large amount of letters. < 1434332444 946205 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, does "er" count as an English word, or just a detail of speech? < 1434332461 151761 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, people who speak other languages don't say "er". < 1434332471 813878 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also produced the word "eh". < 1434332476 608318 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case it probably counts. < 1434332490 513877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much data have you put in so far? < 1434332522 911319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:er = en:am/are/is hth < 1434332593 988116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact i vaguely recall english borrowed am/are from norse) < 1434332644 239560 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mm, lemme calculate. < 1434332678 306660 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434332723 296072 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's after processing only half a megabyte. < 1434332735 776949 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entire training data file is 25 megabytes. < 1434332818 364930 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Well, if it still fails, Add More Logs. If you run out of logs, go borrow someone else's :) < 1434332850 677662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can this software be used with music or only text? < 1434333817 400713 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's made for text. You can use it for music if you can think of a good way to represent music as text. < 1434333860 344310 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's for strings of bytes. You COULD just feed in a WAV file or something, but it wouldn't work. < 1434333915 270283 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Well, there's probably a standard for sheet music as text... there usually is for these things... < 1434334122 506546 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434334247 271830 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want something the neural net is good at learning, though. < 1434334260 794319 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea for representing piano music. < 1434334331 695762 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 88 bytes, each of which indicates a note onset. 88 more, each of which indicates a note release. One more, indicating the passage of some amount of time. < 1434334438 18405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A WAV file won't work so well but yes that byte sequence you specify can work < 1434335265 8399 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hwdgintcmonoktsn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434335329 959090 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, the neural net trained for another 200 rounds, and it's looking *much* better. < 1434335364 117821 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has been my experience, it seems to be doing best with the "regular language" parts of the input, and worst with the prose. < 1434335383 503521 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a representative sample of what it's produced: < 1434335390 543609 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-eqjmrwqquyvdxobx JOIN :#esoteric < 1434335394 615466 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3:59:54: -!- Tinr 4reasrb} borerdt_ctoe < 1434335394 791085 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:08:1<: <blomeeet tsope < 1434335394 791156 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:12:36: <oeedebld ruw ( in qhatauf uto an., towi h rhomgetevpt shcil: Loleoo Dosrdrred < 1434335423 29235 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it has a tendency to occasionally get just a couple of letters wrong in a phrase. < 1434335424 562707 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, I can't understand that. Could you repeat that in English? < 1434335441 84684 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm referring to the bot's "sample") < 1434335449 577747 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "Loleoo Dosrdrred" is a corrupted version of a phrase that appears frequently. But I can't think what it would be. < 1434335452 778783 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer is, no. :D < 1434335478 89826 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is blomeeet, I wonder... < 1434335493 907910 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only 1 person whose name starts with b on this channel... < 1434335535 50739 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a lower temperature, the prose is *slightly* better. < 1434335544 547866 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9:57:10: <blcjan> hase tilk thiny if thorg mhe top as pon co tee tiche tout aan tharl jen oo notl < 1434335614 865086 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a complete list of the nicks that appear in the low-temperature output: orrjan, blcjan, flooan, oee-anon, oeljan, ois5, lelban, eiseaBe_. < 1434335718 669444 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the net has a very very very basic understanding of how English words. < 1434335725 530957 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Letters with spaces in between." < 1434335738 832915 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434335752 354156 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I should probably go to bed. I will, of course, leave the net training overnight. < 1434335766 641160 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: thatsbetterthanmerightnowtryingtoparodywhatwouldhappenifsomehorrordestroyedenglishwords < 1434335790 716414 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Translation: That's better than me right now, trying to parody what would happen if some horror destroyed English words!) < 1434336032 207883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get greenlandic hth < 1434336257 541005 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1434336301 759450 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434337001 952876 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-eqjmrwqquyvdxobx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434337014 293012 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1434337014 468659 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1434337014 468725 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy JOIN :#esoteric < 1434337055 362829 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words er and um are english. japanese words for the same meaning are えと and あのう. < 1434337119 499177 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes あのさ. < 1434337131 609807 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah that too < 1434337534 536796 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem not to be able to program effectively without music < 1434337623 246682 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434337623 598697 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434337826 436000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get Apache to accept HTTP PUT requests by configuring the .htaccess file? (I want it to call a CGI script though and not just upload the file directly. I also want it only for certain files.) < 1434337931 119155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I tried without putting it in and using with cURL I get various errors both 411 and 400 < 1434338296 741057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not using WebDAV and do not need it. < 1434338580 986740 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily http://i.imgur.com/BtNq7SE.jpg < 1434338581 162395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434338775 285180 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_actions.html < 1434338798 922205 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows to associate a script with particular methods < 1434339004 107302 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAA there was another bug! < 1434339025 141505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ found the last bug. oh wait... | The Collatz files | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1434339068 233313 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION actually bothers to read wisdom.pdf... and... < 1434339092 210621 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one occurs when playing a game that scrolls even slower. < 1434339107 833888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away from gamemanj to a safe place < 1434339121 734609 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how slow a game can scroll? < 1434339121 910391 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Is something about to happen? < 1434339153 979556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: THe Script command doesn't work in .htaccess files < 1434339156 715890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1434339365 454990 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manowar is the best metal < 1434339410 236945 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition of "bc" in wisdom.pdf seems to be... an Octal dump? < 1434339420 704702 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bc < 1434339421 428914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵ < 1434339449 945035 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said, in wisdom.pdf. < 1434339452 154901 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :` od -c wisdom/bc < 1434339452 719942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1434339461 595977 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` od -c wisdom/bc < 1434339462 170046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 b c 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 \ 0000020 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 \ 0000040 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 \ 0000060 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 \ 0000100 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 340 257 265 34 < 1434339527 85202 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's different to the one in the PDF(see channel topic), but still similar. < 1434339561 972522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily gamemanj is complaining about `? bc in the wisdom.pdf hth < 1434339562 148165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434339569 238978 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaining? < 1434339591 691874 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I'm not complaining, I was just asking what it was an octal dump of... < 1434339591 867545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434339597 320351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible boily has given up on those characters < 1434339597 897522 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` od wisdom/bc < 1434339598 472135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 061542 160040 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 \ 0000020 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 \ 0000040 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 \ 0000060 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 \ 0000100 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 \ 0000120 160265 13265 < 1434339613 423048 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, that's the same one < 1434339623 976308 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. it's an octal dump by 16 bit words < 1434339693 177721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bc < 1434339694 641928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot < 1434339704 305940 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` od -o2 wisdom/bc < 1434339704 934094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :od: invalid option -- '2' \ Try `od --help' for more information. < 1434339708 468523 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` od -to2 wisdom/bc < 1434339708 994308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 061542 160040 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 \ 0000020 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 \ 0000040 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 \ 0000060 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 \ 0000100 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 160265 132657 127740 \ 0000120 160265 13265 < 1434339714 333989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do... < 1434339715 297619 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1434339732 376940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/bc < 1434339733 310027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/bc < 1434339744 54972 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an octal dump 'o' be 2-byte words '2' < 1434339824 656137 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is bullshit IMO that the standard posix shell doesn't include the inverse of od < 1434339830 424787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm only the guestbot one is listed, i guess the rest are `reverts < 1434339845 344481 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, the standard posix utilities that is < 1434339872 484516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want PUT only working on certain files, and the Script command of Apache doesn't seem to do that either? < 1434339887 519436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: agreed on that < 1434340445 309677 :password2!~password@197.77.75.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434340752 528273 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good midnight < 1434340905 331010 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/mad < 1434340906 10057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/mad: No such file or directory < 1434340984 694277 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434341132 575807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use NTTP with cURL? < 1434341137 384897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/NTTP/NNTP/ < 1434341164 836067 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized, though i never noticed it before, that elliott was on the xkcd fora < 1434341184 611592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he posted in a stickied thread back in 2007 < 1434341394 446386 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he played lots of games < 1434341721 949444 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first thing he said was: < 1434341729 332648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just registered to say < 1434341729 508476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :- don't learn perl < 1434341729 684213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :- or php < 1434341730 114021 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :- learn scheme < 1434341747 475559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom for the ages < 1434341836 45677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got PUT to work now < 1434341884 661816 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434342561 409411 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't agree. A imperative language is much easier to understand and thus a better language to beign with < 1434342595 367445 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC brought us a whole generation of programmers < 1434342695 758383 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP and Perl are perhaps not the best imperative languages though. < 1434342704 474113 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2 is better < 1434342722 879857 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatcha got agin python 3 < 1434342803 531020 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :python 3 is incompatible < 1434342821 566168 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the same thing I have against PErl 6 < 1434342852 351145 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434343087 958649 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO it is complete bullshit that they did not put a way to import python 2 libraries < 1434343103 866107 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like C++'s extern "C" < 1434343184 513592 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :import from _past_ < 1434343324 417763 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434343620 299800 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, eventually python 3 will be the better choice, but it isn't right now, and plenty of new code is still written for python 2.7 < 1434343833 700787 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :had they created a compatibility layer, people would be able to write their code in python 3 without worrying about the libraries they are using, but they were dumb... < 1434344082 551234 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, according to https://python3wos.appspot.com/ most libraries support python 3, but I can see one exception which is a major dealbreaker for me... mysql-python < 1434344108 135316 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pmysql? < 1434344168 426681 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pypi.python.org/pypi/MySQL-python/1.2.5 < 1434344400 724557 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pymysql might work. < 1434345193 942781 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434345409 786547 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434346692 79851 :password2!~password@197.77.75.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434347913 199938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will the client stop trying to download favicon.ico with every request if the request returns a 410 response? < 1434350909 385243 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1434351491 283393 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434352282 712106 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. pymysql does work. I therefore recant. python 3 is mature enough to be used. < 1434352433 139420 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about python2 is that people insist on using it because nobody uses python 3 because nobody uses python 3 < 1434352489 745955 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434352599 937940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just throw some critical mass at those people, that solves everything hth < 1434352622 674658 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is python 3 better or is it just a bigger number? < 1434352642 276690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fundamental cleanup? < 1434352693 923022 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it basically cleans up a lot of inconsistent stuff < 1434352709 463058 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in doing so is incompatible < 1434352818 733741 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434353157 364307 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1434353529 943886 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnoooord < 1434353532 14760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43210&oldid=43207 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+51) 10/* Examples */ OOPS, FIXED SOME ERRORS IN EXAMPLES < 1434353605 896372 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking backwards compatability is always a huge risk. < 1434353665 573527 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in order to clean-up there's probably no real way around it. < 1434353745 75715 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better community than pythons would be fine < 1434353773 237991 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected python 3 to be accepted way earlier tbh < 1434353954 527880 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434354223 983357 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434354235 125630 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434354274 191079 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1434354274 366716 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434354366 6270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434355716 166334 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434356925 999720 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434357607 677452 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434358010 609237 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434358051 898842 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434358514 485315 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434360962 787451 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434361249 753557 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434362036 662840 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434362731 918504 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434363357 376460 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi...guys... < 1434363387 830338 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 7d 15h 3m 29s ago: rdhellococ! I will spontaneously describe you in the next minutes. would you like to have an autodescription instead? < 1434363399 837497 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, can I have a chat log as to what he described? < 1434363454 750291 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, relevant logs are http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2015-06-07 < 1434363459 718938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think much description occured < 1434363875 50702 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434363925 476048 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434364590 99641 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont see any < 1434364593 862723 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind then < 1434364609 640747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434364612 642905 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway < 1434364755 919000 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my new language, PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC? < 1434364781 782861 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an extension of GOTO < 1434364853 97002 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434365015 213554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdhellococ. this sounds like a demon invocation or something. < 1434365023 476848 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434365023 652607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro said 7h 20m 43s ago: http://i.imgur.com/BtNq7SE.jpg < 1434365023 652690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 7h 4m 22s ago: gamemanj is complaining about `? bc in the wisdom.pdf hth < 1434365023 652714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 7h 3m 52s ago: I'm not complaining, I was just asking what it was an octal dump of... < 1434365102 982482 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell coppro ha ha ha! < 1434365103 195973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434365191 19989 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan the first pass I did on the wisdom, I hg cloned the repo. bc wasn't showing properly, therefore I did the most logical thing I could do. < 1434365191 195583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434365206 691809 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj it's an octal dump of what `? bc is hth < 1434365206 867490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434365257 938253 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell coppro oh wait, no. it's not what I think it is, or is it? < 1434365258 114040 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434365451 199638 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC....PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC.... < 1434365469 265654 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :demon chanting printaskswitchinputcasexgotoacaseygotobelsegotoc... < 1434365496 686687 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :summon the great dark lord of finite state automata < 1434366192 896510 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434367659 770731 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LYMPHATIC CHICKEN < 1434368430 545474 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1434368447 383487 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434368851 529122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434369041 827997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1434369042 39926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1h 4m 10s ago: the first pass I did on the wisdom, I hg cloned the repo. bc wasn't showing properly, therefore I did the most logical thing I could do. < 1434369121 415558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1434369126 713380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434369152 246528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn rdococ RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1434369154 211839 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «rdococ rdococlikestomakelanguageslikethis» < 1434369159 134285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434369161 802272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434369165 18126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434369171 436027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn rdococ/RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1434369173 480207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «rdococ» < 1434369179 758199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ping < 1434369223 230726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: i think that's the kind of description he meant hth < 1434369779 391962 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1434369780 199774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1434369783 165860 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaa < 1434369789 672706 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it < 1434369823 12650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1434370216 469190 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1434370236 385091 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder... < 1434370338 355104 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An esolang that is a derivative of itself"? how on earth...? < 1434370361 766219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly an exponential language < 1434370568 448048 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "the first rogue-like was a game called rogue"? < 1434370681 313445 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily that is trundle riiching with kokushi, and subsequently getting suucha riichied < 1434370681 489099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434371055 617082 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I know! < 1434371062 347143 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434371065 361150 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a programming language where programs are worlds in Everybody Edits. < 1434371101 784129 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... you havent heard of that game? Everybody Edits? ... nevermind < 1434371135 424534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just googled < 1434371143 635988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no < 1434371181 489504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't much of a gamer < 1434371204 797063 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok... < 1434371289 559150 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind... atleast you can give feedback on PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC... right? < 1434371321 757505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm... < 1434371331 211967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been skirting his wiki duties lately < 1434371338 497954 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1434371376 921287 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks oerjan wants an excuse to delete PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC's article... and not as soon as it was created... < 1434371389 851012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, last time i made a giant catchup of a whole month at once < 1434371394 133443 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1434371405 429039 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nothing to do with PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC... < 1434371409 170176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1434371410 932122 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goodness < 1434371435 94966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that name, if it's a programming language at all, chances are it's on topic < 1434371601 755023 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, definitely sounds esoteric < 1434371641 430803 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might make another language, seeing as it seems to have caught on < 1434371851 547062 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434372028 869107 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434372084 617412 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434372189 184781 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434372255 674911 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ just created THISISYETANOTHERBRAINFUCKDERIVATIVEBUTACTUALLYITSJUSTATOTALBRAINFUCKEQUIVALENT < 1434372348 820985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do people get these long names from? and without spaces too, unlike Nora's < 1434372613 24109 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434372775 553810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (>>=map toUpper).words$"no idea b_jonas" < 1434372777 605058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "NOIDEAB_JONAS" < 1434372780 54294 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434372960 75109 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434373738 726303 :Anarchist!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434373762 534750 :Anarchist!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 NICK :Guest2276 < 1434373802 334656 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 NICK :laster < 1434373865 667802 :laster!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 NICK :Guest2276 < 1434374720 40246 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434374735 805096 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434375069 86080 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434375506 50647 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why hello < 1434375721 66022 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy. < 1434375730 747057 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been officially welcomed? < 1434375915 689667 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1434376072 506469 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Guest2276 < 1434376073 373920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest2276: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1434376132 867345 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you! < 1434376147 228738 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone do art magick? < 1434376280 978294 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434376313 328311 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why welcome to esoteric rdococ < 1434376343 564098 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not new here... < 1434376391 818435 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait...that's only for new people? < 1434376396 399362 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Facepalm* < 1434376414 121682 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have said "welcome back" < 1434376432 729825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no, the proper thing for old people is: < 1434376436 637027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdellococ < 1434376445 128987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very traditional < 1434376459 509371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1434376465 928952 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1434376478 661325 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no its rdhellococ < 1434376498 652090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the h is sometimes elided. typical sandhi phenomenon hth < 1434376577 217379 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont you mean sandi penomenon? < 1434376590 882171 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dont you mean eluded? < 1434376607 895613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i mean elided. < 1434376626 612457 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would be a very bad programmer making constant syntax errors like this < 1434376628 164330 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait srsly? < 1434376639 847804 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok say occluded instead < 1434376685 463117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose in this case eluded might also be appropriate. < 1434376700 4987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it probably doesn't mean what you thought. < 1434376758 488704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should start using illude twh hth < 1434376773 4153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn illuded by the script again < 1434376847 427266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest2276: i probably should point out that this is a programming channel, so there's not much magick here. < 1434376880 850954 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434376886 935493 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434376918 159282 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434376952 883217 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! Gotcha < 1434376959 383544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you say...? "hth"? < 1434376968 450990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1434376969 370781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1434376985 246889 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm I looked it up on google but thanks anyway < 1434377000 667503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait rdococ doesn't know about hth, i think he must be new here anyway. < 1434377005 794433 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is wondering how he didn't know... < 1434377017 717963 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :me??!! new?! preposterous < 1434377044 760697 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :look in the chat logs and find my first message to this channel < 1434377093 167690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the logs are no longer that easily chronologically searchable, since HackEgo's big server move. i suppose we could ask fizzie, i think he has some impressive private logs. < 1434377152 778899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think he's a bit idle. < 1434377162 254387 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? idle? preposterous! < 1434377167 759079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fizzie < 1434377180 158735 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... fizzie... idle?! < 1434377213 932799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 days 3 hours 50something minutes < 1434377477 391792 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Whistles* < 1434377478 962876 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1434377479 618626 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1434377519 434533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1434377690 827837 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434377714 792184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] _1 < 1434377715 896384 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _1 < 1434378067 771917 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1434378104 528273 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434378146 395394 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434378323 517710 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a turing complete programming language with only a single instruction that has no parameters... is it possible? < 1434378350 369139 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and I didn't mean like the chicken programming language < 1434378387 62847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like that'll be essentially Unary-like < 1434378402 570694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only information is the number of instructions in the program < 1434378409 13165 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1434378435 990604 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if we can map the set of all programs to the set of all integers, then its possible < 1434378451 579526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not very hard. < 1434378453 161276 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :all positive integers, although that wont make a difference < 1434378464 945922 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :*including zero though < 1434378489 564338 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... idk... < 1434378516 783324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's easy if you can leave out some integers, otherwise it's still possible but requires some care. < 1434378538 723631 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this idea where programs were algebraic expressions - x is cat program, 1/x is rev program, 2x is double cat, 3x^2... < 1434378546 810690 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get the logic < 1434378586 201595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that generalizes very well. cpressey made a language like that, Burro. < 1434378594 423830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc) < 1434378606 665158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, erm < 1434378617 506267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was trying to be algebraic. < 1434378642 374863 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont see the relation... it tries to use mathematical symbols but has no relation to mathematics at all when you swap the characters around < 1434378702 258635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "it" do you mean your idea? < 1434378726 83425 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I meant Burro < 1434378760 273569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the programs have an algebraic group structure. < 1434378769 849203 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh ok < 1434378819 615348 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1434378889 228706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once saw someone trying to define a kind of reversible language where subtraction and division were different kinds of "reversing" calculations. except i don't think they'd really made it work logically consistently. < 1434378917 74322 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this idea that a program is a function o(t, i) mapping time t and input function i to output < 1434378956 564783 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cat(t, i) = i(t), delayedCat(t, i) = i(t - 1) < 1434378986 359453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1434379019 527259 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiftedCat(t, i) = i(t) + 1 < 1434379064 317519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is slightly reminded of functional reactive programming, which he only vaguely knows. < 1434379086 203193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some forms of it have an explicit time parameter. < 1434379119 190687 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that about? < 1434379218 134205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, how to do GUIs functionally rather than imperatively < 1434379240 525639 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to invent a new programming paradigm... < 1434379357 336027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :great ambition. i'm not sure the best way of doing that is to set out with that as your intention, though. < 1434379907 680535 :Guest2276!05fe4108@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.8 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434380820 296042 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434380820 533874 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434381804 593536 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... < 1434381813 911689 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that nickname, is it a reference to a game of some kind? < 1434382128 31781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434382132 369451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps lock/CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TIRED OLD MEMES < 1434383318 450826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: what nickname? < 1434383520 606311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434383521 549261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bienvenue/Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1434384011 549817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Au revoir < 1434385124 520393 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434385412 198449 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434385485 348211 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434385530 938798 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434386200 242220 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434386653 743040 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434387249 134575 :password2!~password@197.77.17.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434387763 869814 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434388538 69957 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 NICK :MoALTz < 1434390213 657705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434390277 392990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdebath14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43211&oldid=40674 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+22070) 10New version with update to Debian Jessie < 1434390871 944046 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434391217 941348 :password2!~password@197.77.17.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434391696 956816 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434392985 891248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434392986 947045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thwackamacallit/A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. < 1434393016 618527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/thwackamacallit < 1434393018 346607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434393037 490131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we were going with one space? < 1434393098 51693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l '\w\. [A-Z]' wisdom | wc -l < 1434393098 952205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 < 1434393101 692965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l '\w\. [A-Z]' wisdom | wc -l < 1434393102 502970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :81 < 1434393108 802117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's settled < 1434393111 921834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/thwackamacallit < 1434393114 726749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434393804 735176 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434394105 374817 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434394135 487104 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434394190 267114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMITH# has a CITE instruction which just skips the next byte. Actually, 6502 also has such an instruction. < 1434394300 449939 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just a double-width NOP < 1434394327 97194 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or iow, a NOP with a byte argument < 1434394346 493720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is NOP with immediate addressing mode. < 1434394440 847254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 6502 also has NOP with zeropage addressing and NOP with absolute addressing; this can be used if you want the side-effect of reading from that address, or to waste extra cycles. < 1434394475 483084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But both the immediate and non-immediate addressing might also be useful with self-modifying codes. < 1434394689 822399 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434394748 549835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, those NOPS are very useful instructions < 1434394782 348916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want more of them < 1434394816 156940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has enough NOP instructions, probably more than it needs < 1434394848 899978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has no "store into immediate" instruction; the opcode that should be "store into immediate" is instead NOP immediate. < 1434394908 305592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1434394912 589745 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :store into immediate would be strange < 1434394939 493248 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1434395052 443638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still would like it though and think it might be useful with some Famicom cartridges (those that map the bankswitching register into $8000-$FFFF and have no bus conflicts; if $C000-$FFFF is the fixed bank then a store immediate instruction in there has one irrelevant byte but still smaller and faster than otherwise to bankswitch) < 1434395070 626459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that VAX has a "increment immediate" instruction. < 1434395303 674878 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434396196 870048 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434396637 742305 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434396663 494719 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434396756 460074 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434396759 396112 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Client Quit < 1434396772 874893 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434396862 223281 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434397086 968025 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434397232 662211 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434397614 470060 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Switching < 1434398220 22925 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434398492 511360 :FreeFull!~freefull@host165-120-14-229.range165-120.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434398510 27902 :FreeFull!~freefull@host165-120-14-229.range165-120.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434398510 203572 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434398966 584234 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434399118 420558 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :things not being vertical-align: top by default is... insane. who would ever want their text to be at the top of the div, but align the divs according to the bottom of the text IN the div!?!?!? < 1434399256 975440 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet this is the default behaviour if you place several inline-block divs next to each other < 1434399498 289581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434399499 181752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welkom/Welkom bij het internationaal centrum voor het ontwerpen en implementeren van esoterische programmeertalen! Voor meer informatie, bezoek de wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Voor de andere soort esoterie is er #esoteric op irc.dal.net.) < 1434399538 444141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: dank u < 1434399741 987433 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434400695 536769 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434401103 508822 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434401337 687178 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: is that a serious question? < 1434401394 317286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401395 125901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1434401414 356832 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1434401418 994324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliot < 1434401419 648486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1434401522 196940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401523 45717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd/nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. < 1434401538 389782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401539 223575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php/php is the PigeonHole Principle < 1434401560 533499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401561 356565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lystrosaurus/lystrosaurus is a genus of Late Permian and Early Triassic Period dicynodont therapsids, which ruled the world around 250 million years ago. < 1434401566 229193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very wise < 1434401594 336697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401595 218063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs/1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1434401598 864185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401599 756517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fi/Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1434401611 352917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434401612 239594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop/You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1434401765 932416 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !logs < 1434401766 549512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!logs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434401812 615632 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`eliott < 1434401813 91217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eliott: not found < 1434401816 147122 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliott < 1434401816 875270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliott? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434401820 678428 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1434401821 816683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1434401834 149407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in $(culprits .); do echo $n; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | xargs < 1434401836 939695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1373 oerjan 614 elliott 466 shachaf 179 boily 177 GreyKnight 171 Jafet 165 kmc 157 fizzie 138 Roujo 130 Taneb 112 ais523 100 mroman_ 98 Bike 92 nortti 90 nooodl 85 Phantom_Hoover 67 Sgeo 64 mrhmouse 62 int-e 61 coppro 60 olsner 55 mroman 54 hagb4rd 52 monqy 52 Gregor 52 FireFly 50 c00kiemon5ter 49 itidus21 48 ThatOtherPe < 1434401893 377418 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren < 1434401910 425469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in $(culprits quotes); do echo $n; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | xargs < 1434401912 160457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :328 elliott 314 oerjan 75 kmc 72 shachaf 49 ais523 40 coppro 26 monqy 15 boily 14 GreyKnight 13 Phantom_Hoover 12 Taneb 11 shubshub 11 quintopia 11 Gregor 9 fizzie 8 mnoqy 8 FireFly 8 Fiora 8 elliott___ 7 Sgeo 7 ion 6 hagb4rd 5 ranc 5 olsner 5 elliott_ 4 RocketJSquirrel 4 Jafet 3 tswett 3 elliott__ 2 pikhq_ 2 nortti 2 < 1434401917 724329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in $(culprits bin); do echo $n; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | xargs < 1434401919 552286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :282 oerjan 170 shachaf 103 Jafet 97 elliott 80 fizzie 61 Roujo 38 kmc 37 nooodl 33 nortti 29 int-e 28 c00kiemon5ter 26 mrhmouse 26 ion 24 FireFly 23 boily 23 ais523 22 Taneb 22 mroman_ 20 GreyKnight 20 Bike 19 Sgeo 19 olsner 19 mroman 17 b_jonas 15 zzo38 14 Phantom_Hoover 13 Donger 11 FreeFull 10 tswett 10 Gregor 9 sss < 1434401999 926372 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434402094 543999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wise < 1434402095 189838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434402106 939706 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434402259 965842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn wise/Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. < 1434402263 700289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «wise» < 1434402281 854624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402282 763065 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend/Friends make graphs together / La la la la < 1434402302 956655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/friend < 1434402305 395399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1434402322 573940 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1434402327 370263 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1434402330 61910 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logs < 1434402330 586077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logs: not found < 1434402421 223649 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo It\'s neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. >> wisdom/wise < 1434402421 764160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1434402430 23940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo It\'s neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. >> wisdom/wise < 1434402431 581384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434402436 216547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wise < 1434402436 925767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. \ It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. < 1434402558 136492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402558 878633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb/Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1434402579 260991 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434402600 431307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402601 240606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang/sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1434402691 176231 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434402700 17548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ei\|or/n&/g' wisdom/sgeolang < 1434402701 705669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434402758 511742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402759 379237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amiga/Amiga is Spanish for a female friend. < 1434402806 674954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402807 470475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :racoonspirator/A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur < 1434402828 165674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402829 65351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanea/Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1434402832 413653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402833 185547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narutoverse/narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. Sgeo drives the bus. < 1434402841 502096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434402842 313333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1434402892 936399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? newline < 1434402893 777382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newline? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434402912 548909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn newline/Newlines are le/rn's \ biggest weakness. < 1434402916 412546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «newline» < 1434403213 628954 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434403524 895987 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434403971 277470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when I'm highlighted past my scrollback... though it's probably something I've seen on another computer already < 1434404036 805878 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434404154 53273 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-195.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434404364 273934 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434404585 811580 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434404609 88294 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434404706 565897 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434404768 38549 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434404768 252112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro said 9h 28m 7s ago: that is trundle riiching with kokushi, and subsequently getting suucha riichied < 1434404794 920183 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro! BWAH AH AH AH AH! < 1434404949 539334 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434405005 861603 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Wallacoloo < 1434405009 153113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02Wallacoloo: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09<http://esolangs.org/>. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1434405026 935366 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_0 < 1434405033 118752 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That certainly is colorful < 1434405123 102893 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a programming language based on composition instead of inheritance, is that considered esoteric < 1434405172 920912 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: it's one of our multiple welcome messages. we are a very welcomy channel ^^ < 1434405180 69788 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what brings you here? < 1434405193 891368 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: only composition? do you have prototypes? < 1434405275 188658 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, components describe data and hold shared behavior, an object is an instantiation of several components < 1434405358 574124 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-96-255-150-19.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434405365 125943 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My IRC client automatically logs me into a few channels including this one when I start it. But I discovered #esoteric through researching the simplest possible CPU implementations after buying a FPGA. < 1434405429 109177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: sounds like an ECS hth. probably not quite exactly esoteric, but as a primary organisational model, it may be interesting enough. go for it and see what happens! < 1434405439 261438 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use it like prototypes though, clone object, add some behavioral components < 1434405503 71118 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434405504 854513 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the compositional object model exists by itself, I have a written a VM and smalltalk like language to interact with the object model < 1434405541 845784 :nszceta!~nszceta@pool-96-255-150-19.washdc.fios.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1434405550 983323 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell coppro apparently you're currently offline. please note I bwah ah ahed. ご機嫌よう and all that sort of thing. < 1434405551 159052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434405558 403944 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: neat. < 1434405596 283104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: what do you fpga? (what's the verb for "to code something on an FPGA"?) < 1434405633 336873 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about synthesize? < 1434405723 378382 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too logical and pronunceable hth < 1434405763 194308 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1434405804 115880 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I just bought it to mess around with. It was pretty cheap. All I've done so far is make some snake game for an led array. < 1434405857 951725 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But I want to a CPU with an architecture that doesn't implement any arithmetic, like BitBitJump, but hopefully with a narrower instruction width. And then I want to create a basic compiler for it and see how it actually performs in hardware. < 1434405870 12129 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still trying to figure out the instruction set details though. < 1434405881 152129 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be "I want to *implement* a CPU" < 1434405886 807067 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement underload! < 1434405887 96311 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may write another VM to target the same object model and see if I can reconcile the two < 1434405945 95072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: do you mean like BytePusher? < 1434405981 420486 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: what FPGA did you get? Can you recommend it? < 1434405986 355911 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been meaning to get one to play with as well < 1434406027 103549 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@b_jonas: Yes, similar to BytePusher. < 1434406027 279514 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1434406066 436715 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1434406071 519881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like those machines like BytePusher. Why wouldn't you add arithmetic, at least basic arithmetic? Hardware can do arithmetic efficiently, even fpgas can. < 1434406097 581350 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefly: I bought a board built around the Cyclone V: http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&CategoryNo=167&No=836 < 1434406097 771184 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done enough with it to know if I can recommend it or not. < 1434406119 744001 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the toolchain works fine on Linux, which is a plus and something I'm not sure you get with all brands of FPGA < 1434406176 395420 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should get a hobbyist FPGA. < 1434406353 418601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434406354 322427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :languabe/Languabes are edible and fun. They provide a quick implementation energy boost! < 1434406385 166258 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: When I saw ByteByteJump, I was impressed that the CPU didn't implement any actual *logic*, per-se. On top of not exposing any arithmetic to the programmer, it doesn't even need any adder circuitry to maintain a program counter or anything of the sort. So the exercise is in taking something unwieldy and making it do cool stuff. It certainly isn't meant to be practical. < 1434406452 538317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: sure, it's just a personal preference. something with arithmetic can still be unwieldy. < 1434406472 362185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOGA computer should be simple even with discrete logic ICs < 1434406691 545820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I wanted to do is make a FPGA-on-FPGA, in order to do the following: [1] You do not need the vendor's proprietary software to program the FPGA. [2] You do not need a x86 computer to program the FPGA. [3] You do not need any particular model of FPGA. < 1434406700 312784 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: oh, that's good to know (that the toolchain works with Linux) < 1434406801 487470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one more: [4] The FPGA is allowed to contain programs to reprogram itself at runtime. < 1434407149 975262 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434407311 605850 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434407311 781566 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1434407589 660323 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434408479 897716 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434408849 702036 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The search for two convicted murderers who escaped from a New York prison has gone cold since last week, when investigators found what they believe were several human tracks and a bloodhound possibly picked up a scent, according to a New York state official briefed on the investigation." < 1434408856 267210 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the most reassuring news ever < 1434408972 7858 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat reassuring for the escapees, but it might just be a ruse < 1434409184 147510 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COHABITABLE CHICKEN < 1434409280 962752 :ky_castillos!~canaima@200.75.109.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434409310 390641 :ky_castillos!~canaima@200.75.109.216 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434411318 608026 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434411439 695485 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :STANLEY CUP FINAL IN <30 min < 1434411845 805156 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, ByteByteJump. < 1434411854 171578 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434411881 426084 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could do booleans by having two memory addresses, where the instruction at each memory address is just a jump. < 1434411914 814599 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the addresses themselves as the boolean values. To do a conditional branch, overwrite the instructions at those addresses with jumps to the memory locations of your choice. < 1434412052 205069 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434412606 557630 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434413175 356958 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434414161 662990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434414489 861845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414490 664742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematimu/A mathematimu is a quantum of mathematics. If you observe it, its codepoint can change. < 1434414505 5173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/mathematimu < 1434414506 376743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1434414516 86244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Good evening. < 1434414609 516085 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? I wrote mathematimu??? < 1434414618 266679 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonshachafoir. < 1434414633 675306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/mathematimu < 1434414634 893834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 4619:8de6e5355a40 \ user: HackBot \ date: Mon Apr 28 21:52:11 2014 +0000 \ summary: <boily> ` echo \'A mathematimu is a quantum of mathematics. If you observe it, its codepoint can change.\' >wisdom/mathematimu < 1434414638 873041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcraft confirms it < 1434414670 563325 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. if it is so, it is so. < 1434414764 599806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414765 426159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accounting/<BAL|FSV> = 0 < 1434414786 840075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414787 823217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainf**k/There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck. < 1434414795 490653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414796 410611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/Who cares about ancient cases anyway? < 1434414802 678931 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414803 658276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid theory/Braid theory is the extremely twisted theory of braids. < 1434414845 18518 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? AmigaMML < 1434414845 793616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only fools such as zzo38 and so on try to use AmigaMML on a PC. Real Men try to use AmigaMML on a Amiga computer. \ https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Frequently_and_unfrequently_asked_questions < 1434414857 855641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434414858 784940 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. < 1434414859 77540 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what wisdom the neural nets have for us today. < 1434415002 236418 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION samples the net and searches it for wise things. < 1434415060 573746 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat emoticons/gaaan < 1434415063 262658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン < 1434415070 634030 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434415072 703761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1434415099 941330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415100 754924 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti/nortti boy. very nortti boy. < 1434415103 790307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415104 720643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pietbot/Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1434415107 246456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415107 721534 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks pretty wise: < 1434415108 159987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd/ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1434415109 307960 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:10:42: <Dulnes> And it on such quite with some remember piece as which has mUring < 1434415125 394207 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have we ever had a person called Dulnes? < 1434415133 668897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415134 553192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdude/MDude is just a dude, with an M's courage. < 1434415145 269858 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy cow, Dulnes shows up twice in near succession. They must be a real person. < 1434415162 414838 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. they are a real person. < 1434415172 635153 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I looked it up. Dulnes is definitely real. < 1434415269 43791 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434415284 806474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. Dulnes was on when I first joined < 1434415288 707936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thwackamacallit < 1434415289 394712 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. < 1434415357 276986 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:44:06: <J_Arcane> instead if implementation: with an adures to do in the laptopie sense Are what I can't change if you make it nice < 1434415358 945299 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very wise. < 1434415376 766017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415377 823205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursala/~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=&ll;+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1434415385 798179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ursala < 1434415387 65185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan olsner < 1434415389 136175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415389 959608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton/A funciton is the number of burgers to eat when I get one. < 1434415395 340701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415396 143894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapole/A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1434415509 516045 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ BONG ♪ new version! < 1434415627 3272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415627 896271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comedogenic/comedogenic is something that causes comedy when applied to the skin, e.g. an accelerated cream pie in parabolic motion. < 1434415637 661244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434415638 581754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diet/People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet. < 1434415652 449878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culrpits wisdom/diet < 1434415652 937046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culrpits: not found < 1434415659 163163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/diet # scow < 1434415660 473725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434415661 844007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1434415665 645802 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/comedogenic < 1434415666 981719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull boily < 1434415667 493466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drat and double drat. < 1434415685 378308 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh darn it to fungot, eh? < 1434415685 906640 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well i didnt cum on calamari's face facts, and realise that you're going to insist scheme doesn't have the compiled/ interpreted split personality issues like gambit, bigloo significantly, and has an execution cutoff to halt after a specific number of moves < 1434415694 172685 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: EW! < 1434415694 361424 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you work with syntax in plt's module system that sort of system. < 1434415707 701280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing a pun? < 1434415711 590810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no I don't, you depraved pervert! < 1434415711 766377 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i didn't know that works in wine, right? :) < 1434415716 705670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434415728 254296 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fungot has sexual activities with tentacled sea creatures. < 1434415728 543760 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's also infinite " other instructions". the weird thing is they use the same identifier in patterns ( which is horrible. you need to < 1434415729 971298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any reason not to s/oo/o/? < 1434415735 773963 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1434415754 23533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434415765 677464 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ankor? < 1434415777 873509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+g < 1434415915 21238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well for one thing there are no oos around hth < 1434415932 409464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? diet < 1434415933 71329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet. < 1434415945 731832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am < 1434415948 324390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :consistant < 1434415951 271808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this < 1434415957 595169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/diet < 1434415958 944511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan FireFly < 1434415996 860532 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to figure out if I can make weechat not highlight me when there's formatting characters in the nick < 1434416020 948916 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can't remember editing that, huh < 1434416077 333929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/diet | grep summary | tail -n1 < 1434416080 975258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <FireFly> learn diets People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet. < 1434416088 807564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am pretty sure FireFly is the one to ask hth < 1434416100 747117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you touched it last hth < 1434416117 898035 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling the misspellings reference something in the channel at the point of creation < 1434416126 438232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416126 679312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only trivially http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/03ab4bf21ad7/wisdom/diet < 1434416127 378122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberdrone/cyberdrone is a drone flying in cyberspace. < 1434416133 367325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI 0-0 TBL 1P over < 1434416137 323595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: me too < 1434416138 747161 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should probably be removed; it seems silly < 1434416140 176718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416141 16655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque/Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque) < 1434416154 340827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: can't have silly things in wisdom/ < 1434416156 485515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416157 463444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fomething/fomething denotes the obsolescence of clinical insanity. < 1434416166 480861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416167 291972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category/Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1434416194 801833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2014-02-19#231954metasepia < 1434416197 761647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1434416214 176866 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel less bad now < 1434416300 427901 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1 < 1434416304 571124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) <Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" < 1434416324 260204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 1 < 1434416325 136834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir/lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. < 1434416340 804847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 2 < 1434416341 585537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorem ipsum/Business Internet the it China Product Product NATO < 1434416347 418952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 3 < 1434416348 351023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop/You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1434416349 728622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 4 < 1434416350 574359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti/kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity. < 1434416355 144010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 5 < 1434416355 979490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlop/botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release. < 1434416371 367646 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom takes a parameter? < 1434416380 643935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Jafet unsafeCoerce < 1434416380 819607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet says: unsafeCoerce takes any argument. AND IT WINS THAT ARGUMENT. < 1434416444 931174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at what PRICE Jafet < 1434416452 60788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434416519 109520 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unsafeCoerce < 1434416519 720499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434416542 803522 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is unsafeCoerce basically a pointer cast? it sounds like it could be one? < 1434416554 249910 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, more or less I think < 1434416564 165594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phellontom_Hoover. helloren. FireFelloy. Tanelle. < 1434416565 756214 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some weirdities with the garbage collector though < 1434416590 84576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t unsafeCoerce < 1434416591 257057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘unsafeCoerce’ < 1434416596 541889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434416598 851375 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: it's an evil Haskell function. it does evil things to types. < 1434416610 804373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Unsafe.Coerce.unsafeCoerce < 1434416611 965503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> b < 1434416615 357540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416616 238073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1434416637 359694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416638 244026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens/A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra. < 1434416645 190891 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416646 126829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whom/See: who < 1434416661 324718 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know < 1434416674 924567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416675 756446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull/FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1434416679 963007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416680 788900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodad/Doodads are just duoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1434416699 622179 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416700 450931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`?/`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434416718 508815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416719 407428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill/ < 1434416721 268134 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: I didn't porthello you. fellowl. < 1434416727 311687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416728 238971 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category-helpdesk/category-helpdesk is a helpdesk with identity and composition. This channel isn't it. < 1434416746 493452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/category-helpdesk < 1434416747 805822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull boily < 1434416769 786337 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat < 1434416776 476734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416777 257614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :til/TIL that TIL means Today I Learned < 1434416788 231194 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ello* < 1434416789 91077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/cello \ wisdom/hello < 1434416796 826036 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hello < 1434416797 538741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello hello, what's all this then? < 1434416800 823232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that what TIL means in Norwegian? twh < 1434416803 23218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434416805 557862 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... what was it again? < 1434416805 979138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416806 777584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish/Finnish suomalaiset ei Perkeleistä on hakkapeliittaan. Ei saa peittää. Parasta ennen! < 1434416807 492462 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't that message highlight me < 1434416811 486453 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1434416812 241113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1434416814 592880 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had my nick in it < 1434416824 724419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: it's a hello portmanteau. a porthello, if you wish. < 1434416834 987613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is hackego doing something funky like inserting ^O in the middle of the nicks? < 1434416853 423932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1434416854 161259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. < 1434416858 496796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode FreeFull < 1434416859 63929 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0046 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0046 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F] [U+0075 LATIN SMALL LETTER U] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] < 1434416880 302853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not seem like it < 1434416881 901229 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is odd < 1434416900 148806 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Your message did highlight me < 1434416915 30428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/category-helpdesk < 1434416916 335606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull boily < 1434416917 750115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no:til = en:to, hth < 1434416919 580274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that doesn't < 1434416922 789135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the danger was past -- they had landed at last, / With their boxes, portmanteaus, and bags: / Yet at first sight the crew / Were not pleased with the view, / Which consisted to chasms and crags. < 1434416956 302288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: except when it's en:for? < 1434416958 35146 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434416960 798946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of croissant/misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434416967 948854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'm being pinged. < 1434416970 987068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or en:of < 1434416972 33235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Weird < 1434416975 997195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:of is en:of < 1434416978 665272 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sorry about pinging you < 1434416983 922310 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/Taneb < 1434416985 216601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434416986 154302 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, being crawled upon by an adventurous ant. it tickles. go away, ant.) < 1434416990 652635 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/taneb < 1434416991 992347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb oerjan oerjan elliott shachaf boily oerjan ais523 ais523 shachaf elliott FreeFull shachaf shachaf oerjan oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull Taneb shachaf shachaf nitia < 1434417001 679931 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually I want to make a bot called "autochat" which predicts what people would say and talks on their behalf. < 1434417002 156289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That starts pinging me then gives up < 1434417002 824591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is pl:powyłamywane? < 1434417008 124007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is messing with my client < 1434417017 997816 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles shachaf for the vile pun < 1434417060 647858 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: according to Google, it's en:powyłamywane. < 1434417115 47365 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Google clearly doesn't know its stuff < 1434417141 101055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure exactly when it would be en:for < 1434417160 345919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm mail perhaps < 1434417165 257746 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434417189 67415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.transparent.com/norwegian/the-norwegian-word-til/ < 1434417268 408795 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :til? today I learned? < 1434417279 647040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :til til is til. < 1434417345 842620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417346 672982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssstosis/ssstosis is a disease causing false identities < 1434417346 848679 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? til < 1434417347 472992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that TIL means Today I Learned < 1434417355 646847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417356 441979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hipchat/hipchat is a chat where you can communicate solely by using meme-emoticons but shouldn't. < 1434417357 538805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417358 424654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :color/14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610h < 1434417362 870226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417363 729739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand/A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1434417365 98471 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? till < 1434417365 834378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :till? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434417384 365571 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1434417384 993479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead. < 1434417394 210385 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, good point < 1434417398 298525 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be so great. It'll act just like fungot, responding exactly when its nick is mentioned, but it'll have a "personality" setting you can use to make it imitate any person. < 1434417398 474260 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it makes sense < 1434417435 17659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit HackEgo, I'm doing it in private now < 1434417440 609031 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you giving the same message < 1434417447 732887 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't be restricted to people who have actually ever spoken. You could set the personality to "boiljan" and it would figure out how a person would speak if they had that nick. < 1434417473 726432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417474 612270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c#/C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1434417475 159132 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1434417484 840147 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: great idea! :D < 1434417524 240283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while set to boiljan, it should speak in Norwécois hth < 1434417530 739716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i disagree with the "Erik skal ikke spise dessert til jul." example, i'd interpret that as en:for, almost the opposite meaning. < 1434417551 161342 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hockey < 1434417551 879566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hockey? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434417565 216685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: christmas isn't in july hth < 1434417636 461043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<FreeFull> Why are you giving the same message <-- i predicted this problem when they changed it hth < 1434417641 59847 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you set the personality to HackEgo, it'll almost certainly say the sort of things HackEgo says. < 1434417647 843294 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn hockey/Hockey is a winter sport played from october to june. < 1434417649 153163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm sure yu'l agree that that that's nonsense < 1434417650 611655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hockey» < 1434417655 179719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` url wisdom # try this < 1434417657 230078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom < 1434417669 975190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1434417673 267666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^ < 1434417700 337643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: or use the wisdom.pdf in topic < 1434417717 998180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434417718 732859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃/☃ brrr... < 1434417731 491105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/☃ < 1434417732 810899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull FireFly < 1434417737 2667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1434417741 167980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long history for a short entry < 1434417754 736063 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1434417755 481959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1434417762 14763 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? python < 1434417763 493806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434417784 605727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no:jul is cognate to en:yule hth < 1434417786 709466 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1434417787 450835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434417823 797330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it was just people being annoying with revert wars < 1434417831 546725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i figured that out hth < 1434417839 858012 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember creating that entry either < 1434417848 366827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/☃ | grep summary | tail -n+9 < 1434417850 650722 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <FireFly> learn \xe2\x98\x83 brrr... < 1434417858 125439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: sounds like you meant to use le/rn anyway < 1434417872 626260 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it was around then < 1434417887 158507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like you meant to create it and then use it. < 1434417912 52938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate en no july < 1434417912 657315 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This google api no longer exists. < 1434417918 781146 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in wisdom/*; do culprits "$f" | grep -q ireFl && echo "$f"; done < 1434417921 683587 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, the unicode junk breaks it anyway in the terminal < 1434417936 34618 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? hm < 1434417943 580087 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn ruby/Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that Eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1434417944 993700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :patience, young firefly < 1434417947 315098 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1434417958 748964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make MIME-heading-parsing in a C code? < 1434417959 657221 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone symlink'd Taneb to /dev/urandom again, didn't they? < 1434417965 292129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434417968 128494 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, but that shouldn't matter < 1434417981 916832 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only looking at the history anyway < 1434417987 132976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/☃ < 1434417988 311362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «ruby» < 1434418013 752625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> oh, it was just people being annoying with revert wars <-- i think maybe the old version of `culprits worked better for ignoring those? < 1434418032 95087 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/culprits < 1434418032 682153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434418036 621995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It showed you half. < 1434418043 279376 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: use strchr to separate the parts, then use stncmp to figure out the mime < 1434418085 108970 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Taneb is unsymlinkable hth < 1434418098 464426 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdmh < 1434418099 136468 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434418117 364189 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallachelloo! < 1434418157 295864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: why are you using le/rn when learn would work just fine :( < 1434418185 505875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because le/rn always works < 1434418206 184809 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howdy doody, boily dudey? < 1434418211 853936 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1434418212 484576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1434418217 699407 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still works. < 1434418231 915037 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1434418243 420827 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/reflectio{n,n,n} < 1434418243 882511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection.cat.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection.cat.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection.wisdom/reflection. < 1434418251 18250 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1434418268 741536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only until someone forgets the s stripping twnh < 1434418282 874605 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: you're getting the hang of it :D < 1434418299 791401 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1434418299 967041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose technically it still works then < 1434418330 255778 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: please note that there are some grammatical exceptions. please use the vocative case when helloing Taneb hth < 1434418403 705740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI 0 - 0 TBL 1P 10:10 < 1434418429 452313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: vocative case? in what language? < 1434418457 234996 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Tanelle. somewhat inspired by Latin, IIRC. < 1434418465 182116 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: TBL? < 1434418480 752825 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tampa Bay Lightning < 1434418496 288276 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "vocative" essentially just means "no verbs", right? I'm not too knowledgeable of linguistics < 1434418503 3295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aha < 1434418509 791407 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vocative means "calling" < 1434418546 761120 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Clemens Grumionem vocat' -> "clemens calls grumio" < 1434418586 77431 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- to the extent that I remember high school Latin class < 1434418606 810251 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ô Canada ← our most famous vocative. < 1434418622 957953 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, go Maple Leafs! < 1434418718 234085 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So vocative is a special declension of the noun used when calling someone < 1434418743 200680 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434418784 860168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: neither Clemens nor Grumionem is vocative in that sentence, anyway < 1434418804 251191 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434418806 938602 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434418821 618655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, iirc neither of those nouns has a difference if they were < 1434418992 172197 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good example of a noun in vocative is Brutus in 'et tu, Brute?' < 1434419055 900304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434419122 345685 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI 1 - 0 TBL !!! < 1434420019 116503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2P over < 1434420319 712580 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HOMOTOPIC CHICKEN < 1434420398 53158 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434420527 902876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> I thought we were going with one space? <-- i thought the format rules only applied to quotes < 1434420766 47007 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren\n < 1434420979 333240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was talking about the wisdom rules. < 1434421003 54068 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom rules! < 1434421038 964810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wise < 1434421039 658699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. \ It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. < 1434421056 281757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats int-e -----### < 1434421083 527928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the installer is called unwise.exe, by the way < 1434421092 142175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the easiest way of joining lines in a file? < 1434421103 298383 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\n//? < 1434421114 136236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: no, doesn't work < 1434421146 261858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _can_ do it with sed, but it's too damn awkward to remember < 1434421147 960396 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr -d '\n' < 1434421149 746479 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1434421158 410420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it needs to work in place < 1434421182 94425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in $(cat wisdom/wise); do echo -n "$f "; done | sed 's/ $//' # hth < 1434421182 747594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. < 1434421184 89614 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr -d '\n' < file | sponge file? < 1434421203 263055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not in place hth < 1434421211 461494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which sponge < 1434421212 263560 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434421218 596799 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreutils for the win. < 1434421240 883218 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just write my own utils when i need something < 1434421249 32896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's a delicious norwegian food i could attempt to cook < 1434421268 214465 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :howver, this policy often causes me to wirte many similar prgrams < 1434421287 891866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we're not big on veggie food < 1434421296 128650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you eat fish < 1434421299 578806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1434421335 625701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :milk? < 1434421352 813255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434421375 957072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434421376 721868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1434421396 916313 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :esperanto < 1434421407 751917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then try rice porridge with sugar, cinnamon and butter < 1434421410 111005 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, is it? < 1434421416 767673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's norwegian? < 1434421420 334393 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Esperanto. < 1434421456 117937 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. the aj - oj adjective agreement would appear to imply it. < 1434421468 963996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what esperanto food is hth < 1434421478 915169 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do any of the other esperantoids have it? < 1434421502 857197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also save some to make rice cream for next day's dessert. < 1434421534 69814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm afraid i won't be eating dessert til july < 1434421576 381622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1434421600 139114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just wait 2 weeks, then. < 1434421642 582476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :christmas in july < 1434421676 836727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh even more traditional is sour cream porridge. (same condiments.) < 1434421692 607856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google sour cream porridge < 1434421693 228486 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.sofn.com/norwegian_culture/featured_recipes/rommegrot/ < 1434421699 10871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed < 1434421733 127128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit of an acquired taste though. well for me anyway. < 1434421746 735160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sour cream, flour, salt, and cinnamon, but no milk. < 1434421795 751844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i recall as a child eating butter porridge (smørgrøt) < 1434421813 319511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to do any of them without milk. < 1434421834 603076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google butter porridge norwegian < 1434421835 72598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B8mmegr%C3%B8t < 1434421842 490747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled again < 1434421842 666728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sour cream waffles is also traditional. < 1434421869 68619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's basically sour cream porridge with butter instead? not sure though. < 1434421872 269121 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: remind me how coherent you sound? < 1434421872 444771 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i'm trying to use yacc for simpler jobs." < 1434421891 11538 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that was syntactically correct. Are you usually that way for sentences on the order of eight words? < 1434421891 187170 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's nice in theory < 1434421905 559161 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: come on, gimme something slightly longer. < 1434421905 734800 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i mean, er, " singularity" experiment. < 1434421913 339913 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eh, that'll do. < 1434421986 137964 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434422116 911941 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ようこそ < 1434422117 530058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ようこそ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434422122 135199 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ようこそ < 1434422122 767568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ようこそ: not found < 1434422131 166068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422131 965754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi/pi is a very round number. < 1434422137 994557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422138 747038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher/Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first. < 1434422139 915998 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`youkoso < 1434422140 458296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: youkoso: not found < 1434422152 469155 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1434422153 207911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1434422158 108764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422159 24764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk/tmyk the more overfilled your brain gets. < 1434422169 245756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422170 32874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregon/Oregon is the home of Oregano. Gregor used to take care of the color scheme, but then he left. < 1434422269 93318 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? color < 1434422269 731291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1434422274 890853 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? colour < 1434422275 572643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lour is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1434422276 253764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '1N;s/\n/ /' wisdom/wise < 1434422277 893489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434422280 460031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wise < 1434422281 213567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. < 1434422311 507978 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI 2 - 0 TBL !!!! 5 min left < 1434422357 844041 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I in any quotes < 1434422358 390100 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi/pi is indeed a very round number. < 1434422370 906158 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote fowl < 1434422371 81876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. And you call yourself a Rocket Surgeon! < 1434422379 911478 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oren < 1434422380 87099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. :( < 1434422383 436575 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote orin < 1434422383 612155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :workbean says: just write boring code in boring frameworks like Django in boring languages like Python. Don't do exciting things like peeing in the sink. < 1434422388 735291 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote orin < 1434422388 911189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeeeeeee says: so aside from the refactoring, there's no other (major) improvements i can make to my program? < 1434422399 557662 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote tswett < 1434422399 733305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Take a stress pill and think things over. < 1434422402 519298 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gasp. < 1434422406 804961 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote orin> < 1434422406 980557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. That's something I cannot allow to happen. < 1434422408 850445 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ego is devastated. < 1434422418 285594 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote orin < 1434422418 461318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e says: What, unsafeCoerce# is kind-preserving? how boring :/ < 1434422420 302790 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote fungot < 1434422420 478460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. That's something I cannot allow to happen. < 1434422428 276268 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lambdabot < 1434422428 451845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot says: In the definition of `yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw': < 1434422457 141112 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1434422457 746682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? <oren> apparently not santa claus <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1228) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1434422463 709058 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fowl < 1434422464 324454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1185) <fowl> one day we'll be able to put evil people inside mirrors and throw them into space like superman 2 < 1434422486 56189 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fowl < 1434422486 658553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1185) <fowl> one day we'll be able to put evil people inside mirrors and throw them into space like superman 2 < 1434422504 625809 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm immortal! < 1434422515 992022 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote oren < 1434422516 672293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? <oren> apparently not santa claus <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1228) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1434422554 792531 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote oren | sed 's/[^0-9]\+/ /g' < 1434422555 559091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227 38 \ 1228 \ 1238 < 1434422564 788100 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 1238 < 1434422565 447069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1238) <oren> is instant coffee stronger than espresso? I think it must be... [...] <oren> Ohh.... so apparently the jar says one scoop of powder per mug, I assumed an equal amount of powder and boiling water < 1434422592 807170 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 1228 < 1434422593 588602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1228) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1434422605 310251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: have you recovered from that coffee yet < 1434422608 602180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422609 261213 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1434422609 436982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome/Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1434422612 582317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422613 949589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy/HackEgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434422618 454823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422619 215525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1434422647 286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ruddy < 1434422648 479516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1434422656 313796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1434422657 389550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434422734 210281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/ruddy | grep summary < 1434422735 86988 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <oerjan> echo "HackEgo? \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)/\xc2\xaf" >wisdom/ruddy < 1434422763 736385 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBL pull goalie! < 1434422770 481886 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 man adv! < 1434422778 499333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422779 266455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan/Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1434422790 429243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/oerjan < 1434422791 712885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf shachaf nitia < 1434422841 435006 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 seconds left! < 1434422892 646789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks oren\n is somewhat excited < 1434422916 122448 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434422919 133949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434422920 85 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8/Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1434422932 572002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 7 < 1434422933 166410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 7? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434422937 219886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1434422953 342120 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah pp over < 1434422969 869905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, it doesn't have to be norwegian < 1434422975 494864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of thing should i eat < 1434423003 165049 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBL have to score twice in 1:30 < 1434423009 606983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brussel sprouts hth < 1434423034 911832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1434423048 934724 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHI are almost certainly gonna win now < 1434423073 780424 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 sec < 1434423099 639441 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434423101 321023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prepares a tranquilizer gun < 1434423104 399392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdnh < 1434423110 609157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what delicious thing < 1434423121 84171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try a flan hth < 1434423155 565552 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVER! CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS WIN THE STANLEY CUP! < 1434423162 892599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also traditional norwegian afaiac) < 1434423240 149732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots oren\n  < 1434423269 590714 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won! they woooouuuuunnnmnmn.... < 1434423277 282583 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\me falls over < 1434423305 440842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode bullet < 1434423306 676842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​• < 1434423311 815550 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434423325 33891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1434423331 793063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode arrow < 1434423336 28893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C2 MODIFIER LETTER LEFT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb 82 UTF-16BE: 02c2 Decimal: &#706; \ ˂ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb 83 UTF-16BE: 02c3 Decimal: &#707; \ ˃ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+02C4 MODIFIER LETTER UP ARROWHE < 1434423351 681113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RIGHT ARROWHEAD < 1434423352 603521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb 83 UTF-16BE: 02c3 Decimal: &#707; \ ˃ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+02F2 MODIFIER LETTER LOW RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb b2 UTF-16BE: 02f2 Decimal: &#754; \ ˲ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+0350 COMBINING RIGHT ARROW < 1434423382 402385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it telling me it only exists as a modifier < 1434423415 345089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode arrow | grep -v '[a-z]' < 1434423416 426653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C2 MODIFIER LETTER LEFT ARROWHEAD \ ˂ \ \ U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ ˃ \ \ U+02C4 MODIFIER LETTER UP ARROWHEAD \ ˄ \ \ U+02C5 MODIFIER LETTER DOWN ARROWHEAD \ ˅ \ \ U+02EF MODIFIER LETTER LOW DOWN ARROWHEAD \ ˯ \ \ U+02F0 MODIFIER LETTER LOW UP ARROWHEAD \ ˰ \ \ U+02F1 MODIFIER LETTER LOW LEFT ARROWHEAD \ ˱ \ \ U+02F < 1434423421 970092 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RIGHTARROw < 1434423423 668463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434423426 372909 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RIGHTARROW < 1434423427 937899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434423430 27614 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RIGHT ARROW < 1434423430 961677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb 83 UTF-16BE: 02c3 Decimal: &#707; \ ˃ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+02F2 MODIFIER LETTER LOW RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ UTF-8: cb b2 UTF-16BE: 02f2 Decimal: &#754; \ ˲ \ Category: Sk (Symbol, Modifier) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+034D COMBINING LEFT RIGHT < 1434423435 636457 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 'RIGHT ARROW' < 1434423436 537757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434423439 476390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode right arrow | grep -v '[a-z]' < 1434423440 477458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ ˃ \ \ U+02F2 MODIFIER LETTER LOW RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ ˲ \ \ U+034D COMBINING LEFT RIGHT ARROW BELOW \ ͍ \ \ U+0350 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD ABOVE \ ͐ \ \ U+0355 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD BELOW \ ͕ \ \ U+0356 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD AND UP ARROWHEAD BELOW \ ͖ \ \ U+0362 COMBINING DOUBLE RIGHTW < 1434423459 979022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode right arrow | grep -v '[a-z]' | grep -v 'MODIFIER|COMBINING' < 1434423461 12518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02C3 MODIFIER LETTER RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ ˃ \ \ U+02F2 MODIFIER LETTER LOW RIGHT ARROWHEAD \ ˲ \ \ U+034D COMBINING LEFT RIGHT ARROW BELOW \ ͍ \ \ U+0350 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD ABOVE \ ͐ \ \ U+0355 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD BELOW \ ͕ \ \ U+0356 COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD AND UP ARROWHEAD BELOW \ ͖ \ \ U+0362 COMBINING DOUBLE RIGHTW < 1434423464 642346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434423469 969802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode right arrow | grep -v '[a-z]' | grep -v 'MODIFIER\|COMBINING' < 1434423470 979921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​˃ \ \ ˲ \ \ ͍ \ \ ͐ \ \ ͕ \ \ ͖ \ \ ͢ \ \ U+08F8 ARABIC RIGHT ARROWHEAD ABOVE \ ࣸ \ \ U+08FA ARABIC RIGHT ARROWHEAD BELOW \ ࣺ \ \ U+08FB ARABIC DOUBLE RIGHT ARROWHEAD ABOVE \ ࣻ < 1434423486 36321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look good < 1434423503 634497 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :← < 1434423507 247634 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1434423554 617245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look very tranquil < 1434423613 112135 :TechEffigy!~TechEffig@197.79.11.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434423654 197540 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434423681 880317 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :codergeek42: welcome < 1434423695 923589 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, Hello haha. < 1434424020 957461 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434424021 133027 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434424500 385492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TOD14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43212&oldid=39800 5* 03Null 5* (+10) 10/* Execution */ fix bug with morning and sunrise < 1434424571 958188 :TechEffigy!~TechEffig@197.79.11.245 PART :#esoteric < 1434425075 739576 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1434425996 452781 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1434426222 337131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Count to zero < 1434426418 792190 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: I'm fairly sure that is a left arrow < 1434426422 788201 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1434426547 932479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434426548 879369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phở/Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1434426553 171576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434426553 981306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregon/Oregon is the home of Oregano. Gregor used to take care of the color scheme, but then he left. < 1434426572 322207 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Quit: mitchs < 1434427103 423624 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434427202 149405 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434427218 151695 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434428710 795417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1434428711 495186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang currently is neither J nor Io. < 1434428829 617245 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is J and Io? < 1434428898 487002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages hth < 1434428968 768914 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I knew that, I meant, oh, wait, HackEgo can run J and Io code < 1434428975 415937 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought J and Io were also categories < 1434428975 945535 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1434429009 81452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434429046 198618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not aware that either of those are currently installed in HackEgo < 1434429078 909557 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so, I'm confused then < 1434429094 73696 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know that J and IO are languages, but I am confused by HackEgo's response < 1434429183 825242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang is defined as whichever language Sgeo_ is currently obsessing about hth. he seems to have calmed down enough lately that none of us is sure what it is. < 1434429205 231876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's neither J nor Io hth < 1434429219 868462 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably Rust ATM < 1434429235 298300 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why, I don't really care about no GC < 1434429252 951189 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious as to the history of that entry < 1434429263 785962 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/sgeolang < 1434429263 961668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lear Sgeolang is probably Rust ATM. < 1434429264 382966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lear: not found < 1434429265 95846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan elliott ais523 ais523 Taneb < 1434429268 251030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sgeolang is probably Rust ATM. < 1434429268 827831 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, its a quotebot, thanks < 1434429270 2169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sgeolang': Sgeolang is probably Rust ATM. < 1434429279 882379 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what HackEgo did :\ < 1434429287 671341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trout: BLASPHEMY < 1434429305 761519 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the hackego thijgy < 1434429307 336151 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingy < 1434429312 497770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434429314 785482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deewiant/Deewiant is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing. < 1434429330 442134 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1434429331 127303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1434429379 336029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ATM < 1434429380 20863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ATM is when you're withdrawing money right now at a machine that will steal your relevant info < 1434429399 99270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ATM < 1434429400 355637 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434429403 353823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/atm < 1434429404 381036 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh shachaf changed it just yesterday < 1434429404 636428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott boily < 1434429431 58428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that's why i was checking it out, he used a fancy regexp so i got suspicious. < 1434429459 60163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey < 1434429462 737586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good regexp < 1434429484 645772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, but you did not afais verify that it had worked properly tdnh < 1434429498 221299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i tested it in /msg first obviously hth < 1434429516 7354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do i look like the sort of person who would spam the channel with unnecessary wisdom entries < 1434429544 412712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER < 1434429611 694949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/atm < 1434429614 449192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434429622 222043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ATM < 1434429622 937563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ATM is when you're withdrawing money right now at a machine that will steal your relevant info. < 1434429669 457484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an atm is 101325 Pa hth < 1434430125 708040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there are too many people making broken wisdoms for me to trust anyone not to hth < 1434430146 446264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: remember when you kicked me for using a fancy regexp on wisdom/ < 1434430158 754455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and banned me or something < 1434430159 324616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1434430162 668524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1434430222 872912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :later -> < 1434430292 861638 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sports < 1434430293 672199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sports? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434430301 998509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434430302 851392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural transformation/A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. < 1434430334 943410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the transformation that contains no chemicals, or the something? < 1434430340 938759 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn sports/An activity where you sit on your butt, while in a faraway city, burly men exercise. < 1434430343 387525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «sports» < 1434430788 175773 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ordtdbhixfmelowz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434430906 190863 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434431250 36439 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434431588 359995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431589 204158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid/Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1434431592 84878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431592 867853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym/itym "i think you mean" hth < 1434431601 166869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431602 207267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523/Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1434431607 808312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431608 714993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural transformation/A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. < 1434431611 147240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431612 31771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi/myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1434431964 20383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431964 801263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ant/ants are animals too hth < 1434431974 933694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ant < 1434431976 346264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1434431979 471308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431981 381096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology/conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages. < 1434431985 66122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431986 86109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia/metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks. < 1434431990 254196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434431991 234966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki/Helsinki is the capital of Finland. Its main suburb is Hexham, Northumberland. < 1434432002 392917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/helsinki < 1434432002 758675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434432003 570004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaturing/This wisdom entry was crushed by a falling anvil. < 1434432003 911417 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan < 1434432050 643147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1434432051 931391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines. < 1434432052 960334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/olsner < 1434432054 279350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan kmc Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan < 1434434297 593510 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 NICK :codergeek42|away < 1434434461 368943 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434462 270080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kanada/Your bankers' vain plazas never nutured no one / And your concrete expanses lay fallow in the sun / And your cities all collapsing while your corrupt mayors shrug < 1434434469 35666 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434470 336005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eridanipoid/Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants. They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects. < 1434434478 812080 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434479 682849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1434434484 173194 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434484 965027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam/Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1434434494 914793 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434495 716806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhubarb/Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb, rhubarb: rhubarb rhubarb? Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb rhubarb. < 1434434499 422817 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434500 210538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this/this is a word < 1434434504 296507 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434505 220572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​??/\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯ < 1434434516 415144 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ?? < 1434434517 119292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯ < 1434434568 287093 :codergeek42|away!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 NICK :codergeek42 < 1434434747 761706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434748 576883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1434434800 427059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434801 266688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1434434805 995767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434806 912045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1434434875 492697 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434876 368502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you/you a haskell < 1434434885 733946 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434434886 542540 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :htdh/HtDH is a classic text on How to Design Hotdogs or possibly Hogprams. It is all about functional condiments, and was co-authored by Herence Tao and Don Ho. < 1434435669 847650 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 PART #esoteric :"Ex-Chat" < 1434435893 226862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/sport{s,} < 1434435894 832769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434435972 92239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: see, not only does le/rn mess with s removal, but it also encourages people to make wisdoms that don't contain the lookup term. < 1434435989 471506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I was thinking about that. < 1434436020 154692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta keep the ørjans of the world busy somehow < 1434436092 5924 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434436143 350462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't think le/rn should exist you can delete it. < 1434436194 18353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, mk still exists. < 1434436790 913001 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :** < 1434436920 152299 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ** < 1434436920 813446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002A ASTERISK] [U+002A ASTERISK] < 1434436935 61812 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1434436942 615617 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ・ < 1434436943 255953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF65 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT] < 1434436946 250057 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1434437115 418755 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ・··∙• < 1434437116 58890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF65 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT] [U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT] [U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT] [U+2219 BULLET OPERATOR] [U+2022 BULLET] < 1434438190 767023 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434438686 784485 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :halfwidth katakana are an excellent idea, because otherwise the katakana words in a text take up way too much space < 1434438767 976227 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a browser extensionn that halfifies all the katakana words on the page < 1434439128 942384 :password2_!~password@197.77.17.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434440823 30757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `` echo He hates newlines. >> wisdom/oerjan ) < 1434443386 112905 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434444398 845348 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434445534 250980 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434446605 689604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434447523 608034 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434448391 474226 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat culprits < 1434448391 979350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: culprits: No such file or directory < 1434448397 375897 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434448397 859319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434449884 259939 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434449917 418493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434450604 259072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1434450604 510499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 161000Z 14004KT 30SM SCT020 BKN058 OVC080 18/16 A2982 RMK SC3SC3AC2 SLP098 DENSITY ALT 500FT < 1434450968 800399 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LZSH < 1434450969 339267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1434450973 592507 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LUSH < 1434450974 69902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1434450975 428681 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434450987 605261 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LSZH < 1434450987 821313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 161020Z 01004KT 340V080 9999 FEW014 SCT020 BKN095 18/15 Q1019 NOSIG < 1434451007 664053 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zurich? < 1434451011 709171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1434451085 221927 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434451085 397623 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434451116 430630 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, I'm doing that thing I do again where I forget to eat < 1434451128 35622 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry. < 1434451138 730144 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll take days before you die. < 1434451272 379544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not helping < 1434451451 288424 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also can't get the idea of a natural transformation into my head < 1434451462 446603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unnatural < 1434451488 574042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote unnatural < 1434451490 307851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1241) <ais523> after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist <ais523> they're so unnatural < 1434451500 439621 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one of my favourite quotes < 1434451637 412931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it, given functors F and G, a natural transformation is a family n_A : F(A) -> G(A) such that n_A . G(f) = F(f) . n_B? for all f : A -> B? < 1434451677 719779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd have to look this up) < 1434451683 471896 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you ever tried soylent? < 1434451696 701012 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not, it's too expensive for me, I think < 1434451742 376979 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1434451749 710667 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need an esolang that doesn't have positive numbers.. < 1434451762 335423 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda < 1434451773 279487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :only sub-zero numbers < 1434451776 716339 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only to -273 < 1434451781 674802 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I think the assumption was that negative numbers exist < 1434451786 317581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that it doesn't get any less positive < 1434451996 215071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the only non-trivial natural transformation that I recognize as such in practice is the "return" of monads. < 1434452208 907597 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I suppose join is one, too. < 1434452286 135919 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the set of all numbers without integers called? outegers? < 1434452339 747031 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not it should be < 1434453368 413482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :R\Z i guess < 1434453382 83743 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not interesting enough to need a proper name < 1434453753 931200 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: UNTRACTABLE CHICKEN < 1434454675 918859 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434455392 291398 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434455437 70663 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434458052 974847 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434458294 40486 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434458766 54130 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434459007 750459 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434459041 707127 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434459963 402163 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434461835 42361 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nyuroki >>>>>>[(-)*10[+].[-].]---)*21]--<[>>>(>[(-)*10[+]][-].]---)*20]--<---)*21]++<[>->((([-)*1[(>)*19[+].[-].]---)*21]--<[>>>(>[(-)*10[+].[-].]---)*21]--<[>>>(>[(-)*10[+].[-].]---)*21]--<[-]>[-].]---)*21](-)*10>><(+[(-)*10[+].----)*21]--<[(-)*50[+]]/--)*71](-)*71<(-)*51((-)*10>(+)*53>(-)*22>(-)*30>(-)*15>(+)*10>(+)*10>(+)*55>(+)*41>(-)*59<(+)*61<(-)*60>(+)*55>(-)*19>(+)*51<(-)*50> -)*21 < 1434461855 388139 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme guess, it's a different bot now. < 1434461935 279505 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for tswett_nyuroki: 0.0 < 1434461978 338952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust < < 1434461978 514580 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "!zjoust progname code". See http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for documentation. < 1434461987 343431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :two bots, actually < 1434462019 786099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill_ is a bit more advanced, if it's working... < 1434462029 911933 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bots should joust each other, clearly < 1434462122 407510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434462796 768035 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434462805 607941 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahahhahaha < 1434462897 381102 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434462902 623931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. Is there a portable way to fsync a directory even if you only have write and execute access to it, not read access? < 1434463693 271646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe I can open a directory for read-only even if I don't have read permission? Let me see < 1434463827 552219 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I can still open it for reading, great < 1434464331 539295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, can still call open and fsync when unreadable. sorry. < 1434464691 217539 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there even any filesystem that allows write-only access < 1434464701 125796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes < 1434464721 13364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all filesystems that support unix permission bits do I think < 1434465100 870497 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434465107 827336 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1434465108 3080 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434466663 196556 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434466676 475033 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Bbs < 1434466794 340218 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434467160 827678 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434468572 715559 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any good in-depth explanations of how concurrent garbage collectors work? < 1434468992 788187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: really concurrent one, or just incremental? < 1434469001 623896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of such an explanation < 1434469041 632345 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :incremental is the one that has several heaps, and goes through some faster? < 1434469056 264933 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and moves old stuff to the less-visited ones < 1434469073 653939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: no < 1434469097 397442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: moving or non-moving is orthogonal to incremental vs stop-the-world < 1434469131 684666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :incremental means the gc does a small amount of work before every allocation, proportional to how much is allocated, thus making sure it can't lag behind, < 1434469145 238007 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1434469152 48051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas stop-the-world means it occasionally does a full collection instead, but does nothing at most allocations < 1434469164 847667 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving is, I think, called generational? I'm not sure in that < 1434469185 895259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, several heaps and goes throuhg some faster? I haven't heared of that < 1434469189 883227 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right, yea. I was thinking of generational < 1434469205 595829 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, s/faster/more often/ < 1434469210 158604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of moving (compacting) vs non-moving in the sense whether the addresses remain constant < 1434469243 630586 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I guess either. incremental, or truly concurrent < 1434469252 977762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving can remove space between elements so the allocation itself is just a pointer increment, but it's tricky because it has to update all the existing pointers in objects when it moves stuff < 1434469280 190275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how truly concurrent works < 1434469305 783234 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read on the chicken gc (which is generational), let me find the link < 1434469340 584974 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.more-magic.net/posts/internals-gc.html < 1434469362 100133 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explained that very well, and in best case looking for something like that < 1434470316 923677 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gchandbook.org looks promising < 1434470806 170454 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434471266 384638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: GCZZZ < 1434474618 596368 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434474749 946200 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434475227 844224 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434475382 826333 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434475405 360385 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ordtdbhixfmelowz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434475607 56225 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434475796 992823 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434476827 444414 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lonely... < 1434477099 975674 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a channel for discussing RPGs? < 1434477122 166192 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I make up a ROLEPLAYINGLANGUAGE? < 1434477284 547789 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be acceptably off topic to just discuss RPGs here. < 1434477296 489870 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either role playing games or rocket-propelled grenades. :)) < 1434477494 283247 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Assuming non-tabletop RPGs.. FF7 remake. Your thoughts? < 1434477572 405581 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434477883 541480 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434478067 140677 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434478378 762072 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been hoping in vain that they'll remake any FF over 6 for several years. < 1434478575 430467 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434478601 912250 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434478785 912358 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1434478990 220011 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434479691 600630 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: Actually there will be a FF7 remake. < 1434480028 302492 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434480046 20165 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434480488 453723 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434480501 268849 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434480768 488743 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434480995 821402 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434481034 559850 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTe < 1434481119 439018 :password2_!~password@197.77.17.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434481302 912166 :FreeFull!~freefull@host165-120-14-39.range165-120.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434481307 917747 :FreeFull!~freefull@host165-120-14-39.range165-120.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434481308 142945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434481463 669 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhi^: exactly. there will be, but it's far too late < 1434481483 679365 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could have done it a long time ago < 1434481490 154525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481503 657836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski/"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1434481512 11903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481512 911680 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amiga/Amiga is Spanish for a female friend. < 1434481515 813137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481516 728307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberdrone/cyberdrone is a drone flying in cyberspace. < 1434481528 272374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1434481528 949318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1434481536 733295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434481538 250559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481539 60784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty/forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1434481566 614041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481569 240524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1434481572 315902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481573 168590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just intonation/Bad-tempered people can be recognized by just intonation. < 1434481584 21418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481584 851279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone/drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1434481595 611206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481597 448995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur/augur took no cakes. < 1434481618 61700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1434481621 79987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481621 969589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burma/ask Bike < 1434481627 148120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481628 174354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qzyzzalroum/You should start the crossword over. < 1434481642 478701 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMNIT < 1434481644 516764 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT CAKE < 1434481684 365374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481685 325626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet/ \ 6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1434481711 253723 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahaha < 1434481717 127195 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1434481717 785346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1434481725 324874 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehehehehehehe ... it's so funny < 1434481738 995188 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481739 864068 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1434481756 326766 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1434481757 907035 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`haddock < 1434481758 445974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: haddock: not found < 1434481762 757169 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom haddock < 1434481763 646093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa/See America. < 1434481765 746954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -n1 wisdom/piet > /tmp/$$; mv /tmp/$$ wisdom/piet < 1434481767 786255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434481778 505943 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder toilets in the Mushroom Kingdom don't work < 1434481796 60546 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, when a plumber needs to pee or poo, where does he go? < 1434481820 848460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481821 754409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology/conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages. < 1434481838 512031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434481839 378076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute."/ < 1434481880 391221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/wisisis* | grep summary < 1434481881 383557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <FreeFull> addwep wisisis "This isn\'t an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1434481900 344033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/addwep < 1434481900 881752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$2" > "wisdom/$1" < 1434481918 217739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this? < 1434481954 328986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm bin/addwep < 1434481956 344911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434481967 466482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/wisisis* < 1434481970 111654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434482055 301446 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must have been a long time ago < 1434482080 393100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't remember it in the slightest < 1434482899 352832 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434483088 773653 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434484032 47131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Don't bother clicking here.14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43213 5* 0385.0.153.1 5* (+51) 10Created page with "I did actually fucking bother. #firstworldanarchism" < 1434484074 258404 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup esoterics < 1434484754 381978 :wundo!~textual@drupal.org/user/25523/view JOIN :#esoteric < 1434484850 249665 :wundo!~textual@drupal.org/user/25523/view PART :#esoteric < 1434485292 518208 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434485400 240920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unlambda < 1434485400 882102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434485404 816550 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1434485405 674022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. < 1434485448 885921 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: But the question is, is brainfuck itself terrible? < 1434485666 598482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1434485671 179900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.u`ci» < 1434485681 60184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434485689 972213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434485723 871786 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1434485753 585564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/unlambda\ * < 1434485754 292223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/unlambda *': No such file or directory < 1434485794 7690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1434485794 533175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.\'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci': No such file or directory < 1434485862 880145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk wisdom/unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1434485864 76944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434485867 503850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :another advantage of mk < 1434485917 726803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn unlambda/``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1434485919 761996 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «unlambda» < 1434485961 558479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mk thing didn't do anything though? < 1434485977 606724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/unlambda* < 1434485978 430330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/unlambda wisdom/unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.u`ci < 1434485981 345196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it failed because there was no // < 1434485988 446432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could print an error message on failure. < 1434485991 598136 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/unlambda*i < 1434485992 327038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/unlambda ``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.u`ci < 1434485993 907609 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the bot in here is esoteric < 1434485999 637496 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/unlambda*i < 1434486001 82066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But le/rn doesn't fail, it just makes an invalid file. < 1434486002 9320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434486037 172009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why didn't the `revert work? < 1434486062 330118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it did work. < 1434486077 943096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not according to http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi < 1434486163 558198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unlambda < 1434486164 393008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1434486178 913975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, maybe not. < 1434486183 529035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I expected the wrong thing; afaiu, it's supposed to revert the latest commit. < 1434486192 481445 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if given no arguments) < 1434486204 681475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my understanding also. < 1434486214 612983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little broken due to canary trouble lately. < 1434486220 181847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I thought it was still working. < 1434486229 726667 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1434486230 478982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=&ll;+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1434486240 260050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not broken, just pinin' for the fjords < 1434486243 345571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/unlambda < 1434486244 915060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1434486261 258717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434486262 186307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flagpole/A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top. < 1434486271 887549 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bit < 1434486272 489964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434486274 934911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag < 1434486275 738409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434486305 925957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A flagpole is just a tad different from what that wisdom entry says. < 1434486351 25523 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :SuperPedant is a required-typed language, that is typing is strong and any expression must be preceded by its type, two expressions (1 and 1+1) [int]1 ; [int][(int,int)->int][int]1+[int]1 < 1434486500 858859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434486501 810588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend/Friends make graphs together / La la la la < 1434486508 103924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/friend < 1434486509 969919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434487504 225714 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434487600 266286 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434487727 882728 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434487874 564778 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434488223 451492 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434488237 258967 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434488400 517759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434488401 364931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans/fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1434488404 894568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434488405 678014 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hipchat/hipchat is a chat where you can communicate solely by using meme-emoticons but shouldn't. < 1434488686 555864 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434489595 991277 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434490253 451389 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know what oerjan's last name is? < 1434490261 620067 :AnotherTe!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434490288 143069 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume his first name is Ørjan. < 1434490339 624963 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johansen. < 1434490414 338584 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434490576 470672 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434490600 559972 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434490647 351446 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1434490848 569128 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434490895 831046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, wisdom has no friend anymore < 1434491620 905598 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434491803 537197 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434491901 300810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1434491901 496456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 162145Z 29004KT 270V340 15SM -SHRA FEW009 SCT020 BKN050 OVC080 22/20 A2982 RMK CF1SC3SC4AC1 CF TR TCU EMBD SLP099 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1434491920 521226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 fungotting 20. it's damp, humid and oh so moist outside. < 1434491920 696938 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do not say quine, it quines your request < 1434491931 777032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop being sentient hth < 1434491931 952981 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you need? -g ( was that truncated?) < 1434491943 999489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, lambdie is perfectly fine without -g. < 1434491944 175209 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's all of them < 1434491956 287855 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed. and stop being sentient. < 1434491956 499891 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the programming language. it is < 1434491963 767796 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, it is not. < 1434492723 940894 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434492856 83742 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434493178 509665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434493186 834357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ruby < 1434493191 464625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby < 1434493204 693342 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434493236 904565 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: helloren\n. I appear to be missing some part of Ruby. < 1434493491 95291 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434494550 653956 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1434494551 629308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby < 1434494668 826263 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn ruby/Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that Eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1434494669 596104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «ruby» < 1434494672 498139 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1434494673 283242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby < 1434494684 789738 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn 'ruby/Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that Eventually decided to support non-ascii characters.' < 1434494688 645032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «ruby» < 1434494690 717600 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1434494691 493196 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that Eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1434494720 927823 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1434494927 198089 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oren\n < 1434494927 808699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oren\n. Thoren\n. < 1434494965 417083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use `le/rn < 1434494974 603685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is work better < 1434494984 937402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially if you want to put apostrophe in the data too) < 1434495793 711366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But what if you want to put newline in the data? < 1434495878 195841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it that case it doesn't work, but you should probably try not to put line breaks in the data anyways. < 1434495979 257146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you want to put an unprintable character in the data? < 1434496024 605941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably shouldn't do that either, but of course you can create the file in other ways too if you need line breaks or unprintable or whatever. < 1434497101 450638 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434497119 980111 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434497193 54693 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434497378 963563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to me that cURL does not support URL-encoded POST data? It seems only accepting multipart format. < 1434497395 445604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to tell it to emit URL-encoded POST data? < 1434497563 70414 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca NICK :nyssa < 1434497569 107978 :nyssa!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca NICK :nys < 1434497647 711652 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know BUT hey is there some way of.. compiling limits/colimits < 1434497654 417875 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you catch my meaning < 1434497704 28721 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyellos. what's a limit/colimit? < 1434497747 965155 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/limit < 1434497752 845835 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1434497782 7110 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it stupid to use an emulator to play a game I also have on cartridge and virtual console? < 1434497835 379999 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot now there are three lines of questioning at once < 1434497873 572130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: Not necessarily. < 1434497893 752353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can help to create multiple save files, pause, debugging, speed-up, cheat-codes, screenshots, etc < 1434498094 4064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't catch your meaning. < 1434498178 506104 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434498324 88593 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you have products, and you have a program f, as well as a program g, it's simple to construct a program <f,g> < 1434498352 636747 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm wondering if there's a similar kind of way of assigning a computation to limits < 1434498636 741311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's assuming your category even has limits. < 1434498652 469242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it isn't, and you just care about the limits you do have. < 1434498672 69893 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want limits just to see if they mean something >-> < 1434498694 432461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But generally constructing those is pretty much doing what you said. < 1434498988 187695 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434499200 101309 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently arbitrary limits can be constructed from products and equalizers < 1434499207 912100 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'd just need to figure out how to do equalizers < 1434499268 608017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. But Haskell doesn't have equalizers, for instance. < 1434499291 929858 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, maybe some types could be.. equalizable? < 1434499301 908610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier with dependent types. :-) < 1434499314 25102 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::s < 1434499779 973626 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434499904 641168 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434501159 307599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When parsing a multipart/form-data block is it necessary to consider base64 and quoted-printable encodings? < 1434501367 858390 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it explicitly may be encoded as such. < 1434501382 520523 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(RFC2388) < 1434501473 91351 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1434501481 523664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least cURL seems to only use binary encodings when sending data < 1434501522 987794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I can try to detect it anyways, if I can write a C code to decode base64 encodings. < 1434501552 256392 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be stated in the headers of the multipart/form-data block. < 1434501558 273500 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(content-transfer-encoding) < 1434501566 497662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know it is mentioned there < 1434501620 423738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before reading the data, it is necessary to figure out the transfer encoding, field name, and if applicable the MIME type. < 1434502121 372524 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1434502637 273152 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434505623 320467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/mk{e,x} < 1434505625 596737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434506003 585134 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434506003 765552 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434506443 814331 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TRIBUTARY CHICKEN < 1434506933 412221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434507046 867200 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434507568 15128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434507925 959157 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434508726 179147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet < 1434508726 846580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1434509005 389786 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type ? < 1434509005 921285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: type: 0: not found < 1434509023 516983 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf... < 1434509035 998286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Don't bother clicking here.10]]": Vandalism: content was: "I did actually fucking bother. #firstworldanarchism" (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/85.0.153.1|85.0.153.1]]") < 1434509113 994322 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type "?" < 1434509114 513539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is /hackenv/bin/? < 1434509116 849695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:85.0.153.110]] with an expiry time of 1 month (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Why isn't "Vandalism" listed as a block reason? < 1434509133 457027 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file /hackenv/bin/"?" < 1434509135 263800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/?: POSIX shell script, UTF-8 Unicode text executable < 1434509141 562649 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /hackenv/bin/"?" < 1434509142 101973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ < 1434509180 208952 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it export to a pastebin? < 1434509208 703875 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh scripts < 1434509216 395547 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original esoteric language < 1434509217 797543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastewisdom < 1434509219 801443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1434509246 354762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's nonmodular < 1434509280 673223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '2curl wisdom' bin/pastewisdom < 1434509282 147666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434509286 417911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1434509287 52134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom < 1434509343 685776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: see also wisdom.pdf in topic < 1434509346 703971 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a 48 byte zork :o < 1434509350 283823 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434509352 215632 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1434509538 561568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/unlambda* < 1434509539 314615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/unlambda < 1434510055 928962 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's interesting neural net quote: < 1434510059 513051 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:39:12: <zemhill> mroman_.(the 09post 08the 08the 09other 07the 08esoteric 09and 07international 09out 06out 08around 09on 08wiki: 09<http://esolangs.org/>. 09(For 06the 09other 06th 02other 09and 07design 04esoteric 06information, 06the 05international 08hub 08wiki: 08<http://esolangs.org/> (watching ", expected prefixible for type crapped and probably obviously)" index. <= <-- you could many bit on the point of expression < 1434510059 688608 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of scope: (general vocale constructor script to the top of what the manipulate "know" and better for lambdabot ...)) \ command \ std < 1434510177 125134 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434510528 776047 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ezclglfcldgbegpi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434511235 299551 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what was your nick before tsweet? i forget < 1434511266 184218 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope. But dang, that was a long time ago. < 1434511277 432419 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes ihope < 1434511327 523514 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The corresponding greeting is, of course, "ihellope". < 1434511354 3942 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434511377 751023 :password2!~password@197.77.17.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434511503 781861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511504 695746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird/bird bird bird bird < 1434511532 716451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511533 524315 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8/Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1434511536 78191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511536 863789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right/Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1434511696 899808 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 1 < 1434511697 547618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434511716 887992 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/footnote* < 1434511717 621449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/footnote 8 < 1434511727 415352 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmhmm. < 1434511733 150649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511733 909261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc/kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013 < 1434511738 732985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511740 101081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ /  is a space, unless you're hackego and don't understand wide characters. < 1434511743 906015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511744 836678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :color/14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610h < 1434511748 871591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511749 655517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh/tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1434511766 57370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1434511782 186517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> It's a little broken due to canary trouble lately. <-- i think possibly `revert has trouble with reverting file creation? and that it may be unrelated to the canary. < 1434511804 223966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we have canary errors before that fateful day? < 1434511811 692596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i recall. < 1434511856 247823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're either wisdom or againsdom < 1434511887 914062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error is pretty consistent with someone doing rm canary.orig and not expecting that some fool may have turned it into a directory. < 1434511958 472805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434511959 286900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist/Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. < 1434512005 924590 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo uuu >> wisdom/color < 1434512008 98032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434512010 56284 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? color < 1434512010 810285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1434512017 626601 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1434512024 461598 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/color < 1434512024 987938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1434512034 938405 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did my echo do anything at all? < 1434512053 495992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: (1) we do _not_ >> into wisdoms. (2) it's actually just a cut off line. < 1434512063 316828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434512064 682351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434512079 681663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -c +10 wisdom/color < 1434512080 290934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1434512096 581789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you hate newlines twh < 1434512097 548861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1434512098 909365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? newline < 1434512099 643660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newlines are le/rn's \ biggest weakness. < 1434512104 971511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -c 10 wisdom/color < 1434512105 678868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0610hu. < 1434512123 199285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because they make wisdoms ugly. < 1434512161 519963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you hate wisdom/newline < 1434512189 406306 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does >> add a newline at the beginning of the appended stuff? < 1434512202 363514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no, there's already a newline at the end < 1434512232 265964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, `learn_append < 1434512233 946224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wisdoms shouldn't have a newline at the end hth < 1434512294 256993 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, right. < 1434512321 834434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tempted to alter learn and le/rn and so on to use echo -n and remove newlines from all the wisdoms < 1434512331 606513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor boily < 1434512342 219721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would modify the culprits list < 1434512345 852635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is scow < 1434512407 932769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the thing is, it will _still_ not help with people doing >> because _they_ aren't going to know about removing newlines from what they add. < 1434512430 177401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but other people can use echo -n >> < 1434512462 137519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than learn_append which maybe doesn't work for entries with spaces in their names and so on < 1434512475 145345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also has a scow name < 1434512481 911027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*_* < 1434512482 757585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/learn_append \ bin/learn_append2 \ bin/print_args_or_input < 1434512502 557319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn_append2 < 1434512505 440762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash < 1434512508 133830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/learn_append2 < 1434512509 409320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_ mroman_ < 1434512510 797602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful < 1434512602 717732 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1434512603 328689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434512809 463745 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434512909 833209 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1434513607 174050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: whoa, that picture is great < 1434513628 624869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can make RDF file which is categorizing the HackEgo wisdom files by date, user, history, arbitrary tags, etc. RDF requires strings to consist only of Unicode codepoints (with a few exceptions), but it does have a way to represent arbitrary binary data so you can use that if the file contains invalid or non-canonical UTF-8 sequences or null bytes. < 1434513685 64164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the other problem is if the filename contains invalid UTF-8 sequences. I have a way around that too though. URIs in a RDF document that contain non-ASCII characters are *not* supposed to be percent-encoded or Punycode-encoded. If the filename contains invalid UTF-8 sequences, I suggest percent-encoding them anyways. < 1434513777 918687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My own RDF parser doesn't care about invalid UTF-8 sequences but it is possible that others will, so for compatibility reasons it must be considered.) < 1434513897 981761 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434513937 255871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The picture in question is http://i.imgur.com/6ocuQsZ.jpg < 1434514015 446365 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1434514015 455482 NAMES :#esoteric < 1434514027 392107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric shachaf :Linking NSFL pictures < 1434514031 372421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1434514031 380463 NAMES :#esoteric < 1434514123 783738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1434514158 310953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can't tell if that's serious or not. < 1434514170 163447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither can i hth < 1434514172 269149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it messed up my irssi windows, since I have it set up to reuse windows and I got a /msg < 1434514189 657359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/3a1ebc/image_generated_by_a_convolutional_network/a < 1434514231 909909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/3a1ebc/image_generated_by_a_convolutional_network/ < 1434514239 459599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it is a convolutional network. OK < 1434514282 419090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a convolutional network? < 1434514305 415341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an artificial neural network that has convolution layers, I think. < 1434514305 628020 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah! I can't stop staring < 1434514316 939491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1434514364 403335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A convolution layer is a layer where instead of having an affine map where you can change every weight separately, you have a small convolution matrix thing applied everywhere. < 1434514391 493910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think this pretty much sums it up http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/3a1ebc/image_generated_by_a_convolutional_network/cs8hsei < 1434514400 426946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's like training a whole bunch of the network at once with the same values, I guess. < 1434514485 196881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know about artificial neural network and other things like that? < 1434514645 905374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much < 1434514772 556110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434514773 438857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :døsthiswørk/yes < 1434515480 382804 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434516087 376368 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434516829 15353 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434519238 327659 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434519478 536032 :password2!~password@197.77.17.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434520963 241781 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck demon dogs! < 1434520977 168357 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some scary stuff! < 1434521006 688838 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword is a thing that exists < 1434523577 211809 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434524494 199790 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434525404 514576 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434526885 642179 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434527285 467046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you directly build a frequency-domain of a decaying tone? < 1434527998 623654 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wikipedia has disabled HTTP access < 1434528040 222894 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's going to make it difficult to cache < 1434528096 154505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I told them that too < 1434528405 629463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the proxy server that uses HTTP with the client but HTTPS with the Wikipedia server < 1434529096 967382 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434529112 415921 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... guys... < 1434529146 291992 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm... < 1434529160 673408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is another way. They said they didn't want problems with accessing insecure connections and then someone tamper with it or steal the setting of cookie or whatever. This can be solved by using a different domain name for insecure connections. < 1434529183 715877 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...cookies < 1434529240 686085 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I heard about this "nullity" thing someone thought up 9 years ago... don't get me wrong, it's total BS, but it makes me think... I wonder what an esoteric language with it built in would be like...? < 1434529301 564206 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ... nevermind ... < 1434529310 327114 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :look...umm... < 1434529312 211392 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ufh < 1434529336 5297 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone here?! < 1434529367 750180 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... are you shocked? do you think I like the idea? or do you like the idea and are offended? < 1434529370 986766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am on at least < 1434529384 268022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not quite know the answer though. < 1434529389 247113 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind... < 1434529519 742035 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434529538 770422 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :import}io}; < 1434529548 926861 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print}Hello, World!}; < 1434529551 339348 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :return} < 1434529551 972899 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :; < 1434529560 725224 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434529567 129861 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1434529568 856943 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First time < 1434529578 769252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we discussed nullity way back and i think we decided it was crap. although here's a more serious way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_theory < 1434529581 107530 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always start with hello worlds when I join something new < 1434529581 283235 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!!! I know what you were doing... < 1434529592 641502 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434529605 562782 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its okay... its kinda funny actually... but for a second I didn't know what you were talking about... < 1434529617 915714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434529626 802910 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, are you talking to me? I doubt it, but just checking < 1434529627 167671 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... welcome... < 1434529634 941355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hppavilion1 < 1434529635 815787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06hppavilion1: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02<http://esolangs.org/>. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1434529641 189761 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I am. < 1434529659 873423 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1434529664 134260 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm welcome somewhere :P < 1434529717 745167 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you are! < 1434529728 272871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is nullity meaning a name for zero divided by zero (even though of course you cannot divide by zero)? I think I heard "nullity" meaning it once? < 1434529736 66816 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1434529786 147368 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2006/12/06/divide_zero_feature.shtml ... don't get me wrong, 0 / 0 would equal nullity, but that's because 0 / 0 would equal anything if you let it... < 1434529796 469638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it can be useful to have a name for it in some cases, even though it is not actually a possible operation. < 1434529799 513387 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just spent the last few hours writing a Befunge Interpreter in python < 1434529809 552894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already an esolang including nullity it's called IEEE 754 hth < 1434529835 305543 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a / b = c means c * b = a. applying that to 0/0, we get 0 / 0 = x means x * 0 = 0... and every number satisfies that, including nullity itself < 1434529852 192337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see that < 1434529896 832716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't what I meant though; what I meant is you are explicitly dividing zero by zero. For example to figure out the percentage of questions you answered correctly on a test even though there are no questions on the test. < 1434529908 593634 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1434529930 445015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure the befunge experts are awake at the moment < 1434529938 614817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a number, but rather some kind of convenient shortcut in some cases. < 1434529944 350774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: except you, of course! < 1434529944 763341 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fnord is a fetish, now is. anyway, obviously tusho's dialect forbids " got" it is? :) where would you like < 1434529965 418424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't do any proper mathematical operations with it. < 1434530012 253668 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :IEEE 754 might have been vandalised... there's nothing on the article < 1434530025 429065 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or deleted... < 1434530029 301182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: on wikipedia? < 1434530036 140001 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1434530050 746323 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said there was an esolang called IEEE 754 < 1434530062 935495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was joking hth < 1434530071 339626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_floating_point < 1434530085 60393 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik... < 1434530090 209799 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now I do < 1434530093 793065 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... < 1434530119 834693 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1434530121 355718 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most purposes, I would say 0 / 0 = 1. < 1434530151 697936 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the Befunge interpreter is the longest thing I've ever written. At <500 lines. Which is sad. < 1434530162 154979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: i think the standard thing to do with a new befunge interpreter around here is to get it to pass Deewiant's mycology test suite < 1434530171 887045 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a new record for me < 1434530173 498816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I would not say any one for "most purposes" < 1434530200 988806 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you likely to see 0/0 in maths where it's not just an error on your part? < 1434530220 25618 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we'll get the value we should assign to 0/0 for those purposes. < 1434530230 816483 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could equal anything, so any value will do. < 1434530279 903401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not anything should be assigned at all depends on the situation. < 1434530292 339666 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1434530309 938126 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anderson provides a proof that 0^0 = 0/0. usually, 0^0 = 1 for most purposes < 1434530312 174513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: l'Hopital's rule hth < 1434530324 104023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematically there is no proper answer that you can use < 1434530327 73228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ô < 1434530364 792348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do think 0^0=1 is valid. But if you have a proof that 0^0 = 0/0 that doesn't seem valid because the "0/0" part is the not-valid part. < 1434530377 530485 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1434530403 739123 :hppavilion1!0c827447@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434530445 856518 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a long while ago I stumbled upon a question, "in a foreign country, 5 / 2 = 3. based on the same proportions, what is 10 / 3?" I immediately thought, "what foreign country would do this and why?" < 1434530475 934864 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if every country did that before the invention/discovery/whatever of zero. < 1434530479 404643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't make sense. < 1434530572 674475 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does to me... simply put, such a country denies the existence of zero in their mathematical teachings. in modern countries, x / 2 is the number in the middle of 0 and x. but when and where zero doesn't exist, x / 2 would be the number in the middle of 1 and x instead. < 1434530775 74278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making different assumptions, in an attempt to be mathematically correct; it has nothing to do with foreign countries or whether or not zero is invented < 1434531228 386795 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, of course 5 / 2 does not equal 3. I wasn't saying it does. < 1434531256 276347 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a world without 0, or in a world without fractions, division or numbers might take a different meaning < 1434531283 797556 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, someone might say 5 objects / 2 objects = 3 objects, even if the third object is only half as big as the other two < 1434531296 976013 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we would say 5 / 2 = 2.5 < 1434531299 123602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, I don't know. But, the current mathematical way would still be possible too. < 1434531317 77441 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1434531343 961025 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's no concept of the number zero, it has no effect on the applications of division and sharing < 1434531390 628276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434531396 219413 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if we could create an esolang with this alternate division < 1434531408 563253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try < 1434531465 760647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1434531525 587807 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434534496 568659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434534555 131488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434535558 925330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434536238 221999 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434538021 460702 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434538172 339783 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434540034 299379 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: bbs < 1434540160 198839 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434540210 409764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434540265 946351 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434540586 415372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PRODLLY CHICKEN < 1434540883 335452 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434541436 255322 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan http://codepad.org/LA8kRBCM < 1434541436 430973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434542486 291786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know enough about http://www.eclipse.org/epsilon/ to give me a tl;dr < 1434542515 567375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does there exist a http://www.eclipse.org/delta/? < 1434542536 315940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I can do the ;dr part just fine... ) < 1434542588 916374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, evidently not < 1434543172 708194 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :epsilon = 1/infinity = 1/(1/0) = 0... < 1434543245 974014 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the ebook documenting it is written by 4 people from this uni < 1434543252 483179 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg... I have an idea... < 1434543319 624294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn epsilon stands for Extensible Platform of Integrated Languages for Model Management (EPILMM) < 1434543322 500723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'epsilon': epsilon stands for Extensible Platform of Integrated Languages for Model Management (EPILMM) < 1434543342 797844 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434543373 236472 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know numbers, 1, 2, 3...? when you mutiply a number x by some number y and add some number z, you get a linear function with a constant derivative...? imagine a number δ you can multiply by some other number y and add another number z, where you don't get a linear function with a constant derivative...? < 1434543429 243275 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think such language exists < 1434543431 968479 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*number < 1434543443 251170 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but imagine if there was... that'd be... interesting < 1434543455 522602 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :more interesting than that nullity bull < 1434543513 12990 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... another idea... there are minus numbers and plus numbers, why can't there be multiplicative numbers or divisional numbers? -3, +4, *2, and /6 < 1434543544 422999 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds interesting... < 1434543551 474835 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make arithmetic weird < 1434543560 939231 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the system called where an operation is carried out if enough arguments are available < 1434543561 902392 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is 3 times *4 for example? < 1434543564 204361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be 81? < 1434543570 514532 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 * *4 = 3 ^ 4 < 1434543581 992931 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 3 + *4 = 3 * 4 < 1434543587 550394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that 5 + 3, + 3 5 and 5 3 + are actually equivalent and are both the same expressions in that system < 1434543593 72167 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes multiplication non-commutative and non-associative < 1434543600 710740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe addition too < 1434543656 237350 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434543670 696507 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they are semantically identical) < 1434543694 694043 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, multiplicative numbers would act like δ as I said - the second derivative of δx+b isn't constant zero < 1434543749 363247 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be cool < 1434543751 869807 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434543757 13332 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, would there be exponential numbers? < 1434543762 198124 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434543770 238684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434543771 288966 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 + ^4 = 3 ^ 4 < 1434543896 162300 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 - ^2 = square root of 2 < 1434544049 974555 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ^3 ^ ^2? < 1434544181 111508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of logarithm-based arithmetic? < 1434544198 628615 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :=^.^= < 1434544198 946142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is where numbers carry operators < 1434544205 779383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and + is concatenation? < 1434544242 263269 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1434544329 821607 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434544393 521939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1434544398 501256 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is rdococ < 1434544400 740664 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s thing < 1434544524 750055 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I need to figure out what Epsilon is by Friday afternoon < 1434544618 545984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message mauris you can omit the parens in a method call in Lua? you seem to do to that inconsistently, I think I'm missing what the parse rules are for it < 1434544618 721775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages-loud messages? < 1434544630 981228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mauris you can omit the parens in a method call in Lua? you seem to do to that inconsistently, I think I'm missing what the parse rules are for it < 1434544631 156917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434544693 837611 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434544700 930582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can omit them if the argument is a string literal or table constructor iirc < 1434544703 427175 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1434544719 813758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does C11 have generics yet? < 1434544728 615956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it has _Generic, so no < 1434544735 343950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_Generic is sort-of the opposite of generics, in a way) < 1434544747 177318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html#3.4.10 < 1434544783 638650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I've never actually read the Lua spec < 1434544788 523152 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like node_<type>* < 1434544791 92825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there'll be some nice bedtime reading for me :-) < 1434544799 473207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of having node_t with a void* data; pointer < 1434544800 705913 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434544812 839316 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have node_<type> with a type* data; pointer < 1434544819 947840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: asking here is also ok < 1434544842 808883 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I could do stuff like uhm < 1434544852 777641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that requires being oline < 1434544868 535728 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define list_int list_t < 1434544874 383887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to annotate that this list points to integers < 1434544880 24083 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434544895 85816 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an infinite-dimensional polynomial number plane, with units like 1, x, x^2, x^3, x^4, x^5... < 1434544898 833622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: true. whereas the docs are downloadable < 1434544919 105109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the implementation too < 1434544932 266706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1434544935 939317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just name it foo(list_t int_list); < 1434544939 541696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a standalone Lua impl already but I rarely use it < 1434544947 901847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it for testing the algorithmic parts of Enigma levels sometimes < 1434544963 505280 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Polynomial datatype, with a number for each exponentiation... 2 + 3x + 4x^2, is stored as the tuple (2, 3, 4)... < 1434544972 263813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I usually have internet connection, I have a lot of things downloaded that I'm not using right now but could be useful < 1434544973 339863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does C++ have that? < 1434544980 553892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think C++ has some stuff like that < 1434544982 83384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think as you're less often online you probably do that more < 1434545008 106617 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have used lua to write at least one signature-length obfu < 1434545027 300964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :template <typename T> struct node { T* data; node* next; };? < 1434545065 987059 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll guess I'll use a C++ compiler then *only* for the template feature :D < 1434545067 445936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -e a="for b=2,26 do c=0;for d,e in ipairs({a:byte(1,-1)})do c=(b*c+e)%127 end;io.write(string.char(c))end--$S`U$-}OPX41,@aYH\3\26Q2\23*|>"; loadstring(a) {ambrus} < 1434545068 36563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#wV(@yAa  \ "f&`O2s~n < 1434545071 597012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1434545076 284967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but something close to that should work < 1434545088 780756 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -e a="for b=2,26 do c=0;for d,e in ipairs({a:byte(1,-1)})do c=(b*c+e)%127end;io.write(string.char(c))end--$S`U$-}OPX41,@aYH\3\26Q2\23*|>"; loadstring(a) {ambrus} < 1434545089 617766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lua: (command line):1: attempt to call a nil value \ stack traceback: \ (command line):1: in main chunk \ [C]: in ? < 1434545098 79403 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -e a="for b=2,26 do c=0;for d,e in ipairs({a:byte(1,-1)})do c=(b*c+e)%127end;io.write(string.char(c))\nend--$S`U$-}OPX41,@aYH\3\26Q2\23*|>"; loadstring(a) {ambrus} < 1434545098 708542 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lua: (command line):1: attempt to call a nil value \ stack traceback: \ (command line):1: in main chunk \ [C]: in ? < 1434545103 864356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1434545126 783780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -e a="for b=2,26 do c=0;for d,e in ipairs({a:byte(1,-1)})do c=(b*c+e)%127\nend;io.write(string.char(c))end--$S`U$-}OPX41,@aYH\3\26Q2\23*|>"; loadstring(a) {ambrus} < 1434545127 394073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just another Lua hacker, < 1434545129 803614 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that < 1434545144 836089 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier when it has an actual newline there < 1434545163 350781 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fit in an email sig < 1434545199 565809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one sucks, I should rewrite it < 1434545373 991083 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434545557 540403 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434545583 353577 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434546019 796474 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1434546088 24495 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434546315 958509 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434546712 306359 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434548114 970336 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434549712 665997 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434551259 403162 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1434552948 646969 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1434552968 489581 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434554399 235417 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434554509 534313 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434554576 301228 :myndzi\!myndzi@cpe-75-177-176-249.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434556062 780136 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1434556095 619216 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434556171 17177 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434556575 213051 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434556653 783618 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434556670 140142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434556680 581613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434557049 31956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is the trailing comma traditional in any language but Perl? < 1434557061 746202 :password2!~password@197.77.88.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434557065 229124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually I don't know why it's there in Perl either, I'm assuming historical reasons; maybe a typo or optimization in the very first JAPH) < 1434557255 702905 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trailing comma? < 1434557282 107359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the standard output of a JAPH is "Just another Perl hacker,\n" < 1434557293 620072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaah < 1434557295 846714 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd < 1434557310 854687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas's JALH has a trailing comma despite not being in Perl < 1434557323 382363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just A Lisp Hacker? < 1434557324 552551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the goal of a JAPH is to print that string in as bizarre a way as possible) < 1434557330 924025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just A Lua Hacker < 1434557345 932303 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1434557367 959508 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a bizarre language to write a JA*H for < 1434557408 154529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python, although that's probably been done < 1434557409 866126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Java < 1434557422 597940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically languages which aren't meant to have weird corners < 1434557424 634486 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two languages I do not know very well < 1434557428 690730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog would be a good one too, but for a different reason < 1434557445 305966 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying that I do not know many languages very well < 1434557456 353272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick one you do then < 1434557473 129259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not Burlesque, the more obvious ways have to be readable < 1434557488 566277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not much point of doing a JAMH in Malbolge because it doesn't look visually different from any other Malbolge program < 1434557524 897451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whitespace is the extreme example of that principle, I guess…) < 1434557616 365260 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434558663 129008 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am bored I think that I will install a new OS on my laptop < 1434558732 5649 :myndzi\!myndzi@cpe-75-177-176-249.nc.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1434558758 920000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, people get bored? < 1434558779 76855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I get drained of mental energy and can't do anything interesting, but there's always tons of stuff I want to do and don't have time to < 1434558810 405576 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I forget to write those down < 1434558834 673369 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then forget what they are < 1434558885 572785 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I will work on my natural numbers representation < 1434559035 904404 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Nat = Nat [Nat] < 1434559111 249499 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434559212 607298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: with the second Nat there being a constructor? < 1434559217 624909 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434559222 768497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems more general than the naturals, offhand < 1434559237 192261 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, with the restriction that the lists are finite and finitely deep < 1434559275 994007 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434559276 824234 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434559293 730303 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434559393 918448 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434559394 94734 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434559394 114220 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434559394 114243 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434559394 114272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434559629 594534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434559697 627387 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434559876 812186 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434560139 462414 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434561031 357144 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1434561039 481450 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i still don't get how this representation is meant to work < 1434561049 337576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how do you represent succ < 1434561092 463529 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434561244 315669 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, https://gist.github.com/Taneb/f2021eab65ba59aa3693 < 1434561279 336456 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, it's a list of the offsets between the set digits, starting from least significant < 1434561916 608969 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine doing JA*H would work well in J < 1434561984 25715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to remember which humour article it was that claimed that C was a recursive acronym < 1434562053 686238 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434562066 314576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2008-02-01.txt 17:22:56: <ais523> like the entry from the IAQ: "C is a recursive acronym. It stands for 'C'." < 1434562078 140043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1434562098 738486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably I thought this was amusing even back in 2008 < 1434562116 234036 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IAQ? < 1434562116 954767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks past ais523 < 1434562117 466377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, past ais523. Thast ais523. < 1434562126 954351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.seebs.net/faqs/c-iaq.html < 1434562140 514373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a parody FAQ for C < 1434562167 601018 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1434562217 757694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1434562218 430767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1434562431 286597 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some delightful answers. < 1434562452 840397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434562453 751253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indentity function/indentity function is the function that measures how indented source code is. < 1434562773 585610 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn main(){for x in 1..101{match(x%3,x%5){(0,0)=>println!("FizzBuzz"),(0,_)=>println!("Fizz"),(_,0)=>println!("Buzz"),_=>println!("{}",x),}}} < 1434562808 738813 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is esoteric yes < 1434562823 825140 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434562942 693880 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do it in valid C without headers. < 1434562953 895251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434562954 771892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1434562988 622377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is there some trick I'm missing to that (C fizzbuzz without headers)? printf seems like the hardest part but that can be declared manually < 1434563003 542926 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ezclglfcldgbegpi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1434563018 92482 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nah, just that most people don't realize it's legal to declare functions without using headers if you can declare them without reference to types in headers. < 1434563047 158654 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it seems like some toolchain devs don't realize it. :P < 1434563050 281373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do have to get the declaration right (unless you're using gcc, which will tell you if you've got it wrong and ignore it, IIRC) < 1434563077 834178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing many people don't realise is that you can declare things like printf /inside/ functions < 1434563081 355873 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but note that int foo(); is a valid declaration. < 1434563096 294398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, can't you do something like "extern int x, printf(const char *, ...);"? < 1434563110 951646 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1434563126 819864 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int printf(); is a full declaration of printf. < 1434563127 601957 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434563183 278191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: without the extern? < 1434563191 51029 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434563212 127236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I need to try to figure out what extern actually does on functions, if anything < 1434563224 764382 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This behavior, BTW, means glibc's strerror_r is nonconforming. :) < 1434563292 122227 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as is mingw's printf, but mingw only resembles C if you squint at it anyways) < 1434563339 228573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mingw's printf uses 64 to print long longs :-P < 1434563346 737727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mingw's printf uses %I64 to print long longs :-P < 1434563361 811800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, forgot that %I in Konversation is an escape for tab, which it renders as "toggle italics" < 1434563631 615087 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434563635 190497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434564006 946326 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1434564042 806425 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434564487 244947 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1434564513 991032 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434564657 793270 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434564658 8056 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1434564658 8160 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434565029 526078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434565030 461205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pietbot/Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1434565042 182149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434565043 49587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_/oerjan_ is oerjan and ørjan's chimæric clone. he shows up on irc when the network is having trouble. < 1434565062 614095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/oerjan_ < 1434565064 123724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1434565263 877175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your program uses SQLite, you can still use SQLite's printf functions to print long long numbers in the way compatible with other computers too < 1434565289 366584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1434565306 525989 :password2!~password@197.77.88.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434565342 259554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another way is you can use #ifdef to check) < 1434565439 371455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: One time I was playing Magic: The Gathering, and I equipped Executioner's Hood on Chromanticore, thinking it was a good move. < 1434565490 646641 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434565596 836068 :Anarchist!05fe4110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434565620 685230 :Anarchist!05fe4110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.16 NICK :Guest26937 < 1434565644 325297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey, it's still unblockable by the eldrazi titans! < 1434565661 897807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it has flying anyway…) < 1434565729 234841 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434565750 929447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were no Eldrazi in the game. < 1434565775 449150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not a 100% useless move unless you /knew/ there were no Eldrazi in the game :-P < 1434565797 5382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, Ugin's Herald was recently printed, which is colourless because it couldn't be an artifact for flavour reasons) < 1434565850 885641 :Guest26937!05fe4110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.254.65.16 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434565860 313201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format was "Innistrad and onward". < 1434565889 973285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugin's Herald is in Dragons of Tarkir, which is the most recent major set < 1434565901 135915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I didn't realise people still played Extended < 1434565914 375503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was last year. < 1434565926 900342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1434565965 651521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to work out if there are any potential colourless nonartifact creatures under those restrictions < 1434565975 769763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Ugin's Herald? < 1434566005 586373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Scion of Ugin. < 1434566032 129434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I must be remembering the wrong name from somewhere < 1434566075 8277 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this seems like a place where people are likely to know; I seem to be confused (or perhaps not and others are) on the distinction between "closure" and "lambda/anonymous function". I've been reading about Rust and Lua a lot lately, and they repeatedly refer to an anonymous function as a "closure," but my understanding was that a closure was rather a specific use of an anonymous function... < 1434566076 596974 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that captures some local state. < 1434566099 36261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A closure isn't necessarily a function at all. < 1434566141 963020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway a closure is a way to implement things that "lexically close" over their environment. < 1434566145 315695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: a closure is basically some way of capturing your current local variables in scope < 1434566149 411603 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the terms as explained to me were overlapping but not exclusive: a non-anonymous function can be a closure, and an anonymous function doesn't have to be a closure either. < 1434566149 723587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can refer to them later < 1434566157 55416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be anonymous or not, and in some cases it doesn't have to be a function at all. < 1434566166 779798 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1434566169 112110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're mostly only useful for nested and anonymous function definitions; I don't think it'd /technically/ have to be for a function but it nearly always is < 1434566204 317584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a "lexical closure" captures lexical scope; I guess you could have a dynamic closure which captures dynamically-scoped variables < 1434566213 336752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's probably no different to making a copy < 1434566216 352412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell closures are useful for non-functions. < 1434566318 441917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Whether something is a good move usually depends on the situation. < 1434566393 61291 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434566432 209559 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1434566432 385394 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434566493 362913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example unblockable by colorless eldrazi cards as mentioned above, or if you just want to unequip it from your other creature < 1434566548 230899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the cases I can think of where I'd want a creature unequipped - and I wanted to equip it in the first place - it's because something has happened to the equipment to make it hurt the creature it's on < 1434566566 729138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, it seems unlikely that I'd have something more valuable than a chromanticore to save < 1434567679 484917 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434567705 802910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, so it only costs 5, but it's the most difficult 5) < 1434567987 87270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The context was that I had an artifact deck with all colorless creatures, so Executioner's Hood was great. < 1434568010 922625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since all my creatures were colorless, I had land colors evenly distributed. < 1434568035 287679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since I had all sorts of land colors, I put in a Chromanticore. < 1434568072 366689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the reasoning that it wasn't colorless but at least it was color-balanced. < 1434568122 623705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fwiw, those decks which are full of colourless cards normally run colourless lands because they have nice side effects < 1434568125 975585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basics are cheaper, though < 1434568160 119016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Commander, you actually /have/ to run colourless lands in a colourless deck; there are actually enough even for a 100-card deck, but it can be a pain finding them all) < 1434568239 241068 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they'd print Cave. < 1434568300 815007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: a basic land that generates {1}? < 1434568305 633674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else? < 1434568306 971867 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434568321 171503 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get more into Magic, but I am refusing to spend money on it < 1434568323 420045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: apparently they've been trying for literally years but it breaks too many things to add another basic land < 1434568324 627016 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were *this* close at one point to printing "Cave. Basic Land - Cave." < 1434568331 122980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: continue not spending money on it < 1434568337 364815 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is working well so far < 1434568341 480654 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, it's a rules headache to introduce. < 1434568342 596783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do what I do, which is to read a lot of articles and not actually play < 1434568342 903758 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few friends who lend me decks < 1434568364 887291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been trying ever since Domain was invented, which is a very long time ago in Magic terms < 1434568519 907525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can give you a bunch of cards when you come visit. < 1434568552 543945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I may one day take you up on this offer < 1434568630 373323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :limited-time offer < 1434568651 953871 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrawr, impatience. < 1434568671 429204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the other reason might be if you want to force opponent to block one of your other cards then you would unequip Executioner's Hood, therefore equip to something else instead. < 1434568676 800634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, if you can pay for my flights, sure < 1434568799 644586 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flights from Europe? to SFO? are probably pretty pricy. < 1434568822 436739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess in the hundreds of pounds range < 1434568831 493251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also you'd likely need to fly back the other way too) < 1434568846 39236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how flights compare to ferries, price-wise, over that kind of distance < 1434568854 284286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only other viable option and it's much slower < 1434568896 327350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could fly to the east coast and then hitchhike here. < 1434568923 886416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, I wouldn't actually expect costs to the east coast and to the west coast to be all that different; I'd expect popular destination / unpopular destination to be more of a factor < 1434568936 211667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US is very wide, and so there'll be fuel and staffing costs going from one side to the other < 1434568943 362147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I remember it it's somewhat cheaper. < 1434568952 243703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could be wrong. < 1434568956 855752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Atlantic is also wide, and overheads in flying internationally are going to be relevant < 1434568964 16114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, of course, the standard cost of flying generally < 1434568975 142394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can get cheaper flights if you're willing to be advertised at constantly en route < 1434568987 741639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually transatlantic flights to here consist of two legs. < 1434568995 675669 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434569003 100246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, also depends on when you buy the tickets and stuff like that < 1434569010 622542 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :SFO-London is a well-established direct flight though. < 1434569011 640239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's less true for .uk than for .il. < 1434569017 775674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whether they guess it's a popular time or not < 1434569037 472035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I would be very surprised if there wasn't a direct flight from Heathrow < 1434569043 96787 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434569049 469416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably is. < 1434569049 787154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got to be one of the most connected airports in the world < 1434569067 43054 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is < 1434569072 822203 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There is, it's one of the top 10 most heavily flown flights between Europe and North America I believe. < 1434569079 979013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this reminds me of Birmingham New Street, actually, the most connected train station in the UK; London doesn't have a single major train station, just lots of small ones) < 1434569117 935989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, not all traffic to central Birmingham goes through New Street; some uses Moor Street instead, which is maybe about 200m away from it but on different physical train lines < 1434569124 809327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just due to not being able to fit all the lines into one station < 1434569130 44690 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434569134 807324 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Heathrow flies direct to that *many* US airports, but SFO is a big damned airport. < 1434569137 608382 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 427 + 269 < 1434569139 12118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 696 < 1434569140 323741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a conversation for #trains. < 1434569145 525393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, 800 there and back < 1434569152 880879 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434569160 571133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: whoa whoa whoa < 1434569162 294099 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In late September, on British Airways < 1434569168 73497 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434569170 21896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to pay for a flight back, too? < 1434569186 360219 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, BA there, AA back, there direct, back via Dallas < 1434569194 578048 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I did say my flights < 1434569195 723833 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, customs gets pissy when you don't have a visa and don't have a return flight. < 1434569205 902058 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434569211 905879 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but mind you, some of that stuff was probably built when the city was smaller and is very hard to change now < 1434569228 259836 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434569233 62515 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in Budapest, trains can enter from three directions, somewhat corresponding to the three main railway station endpoints but not completely, < 1434569241 831418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: actually, what happened with Birmingham Moor Street was, they had a reasonably large station there < 1434569259 757732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then decided they needed a through line, which they built a bit too far from the station, and so they made a new Moor Street station and closed the old one < 1434569269 98323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it grew enough that nowadays they use both stations < 1434569274 601573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and made them into one continuous building < 1434569315 768329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this results in two big cuts in Pest cutting it to three pieces, where there's only train tracks in the cuts, and other vehicles can't cross at all, because no road can cross the trains, and even pedestrians can't go through < 1434569340 315634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you look at the car map of Budapest, there's basically the Danube which you can cross only on bridges, plus a smaller cut from the two mountains, plus these two big cuts < 1434569351 911347 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's even worse by bus < 1434569385 14508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for any place in Pest that's not in the city, the route there is obvious: < 1434569388 550299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by bus that is < 1434569420 682575 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's near Újpest, to the north of Rákosrendező, you have to take metro 3 to the north then change to a bus; < 1434569437 704968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's in the middle between Rákosrendező and Keleti, take metro 2 and change to a bus; < 1434569450 748717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's on the south, take metro 3 to the south and then take a bus. < 1434569487 615818 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all three metros don't reach far enough, so a large part of the outer town is covered by buses only from the terminus of the metro or two or three other metro stations close to the terminus < 1434569497 924289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is the metro a sort of local train line? and does it run underground? < 1434569509 374724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the word "metro" is used for a huge number of different things in English) < 1434569513 987295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the metro is mostly undreground, < 1434569524 99116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does come up to the surface near some of the ends < 1434569556 985948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's now three of them, metro 3 is the biggest and covers north and south, and is underground everywhere except the very end at south < 1434569609 68608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metro 2 covers east and comes up to above ground near the end for the last two stations, < 1434569628 703966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434569634 345941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :London has way more than 3 underground lines < 1434569659 479582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metro 2 also goes a bit to north-Buda, which is traditionally considered the rich part of Budapest, so most people have cars, but for those who don't, the tram lines are getting somewhat improved in the future hopefully, < 1434569662 600847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas Birmingham doesn't have an underground system, but has an above-ground train system that links to pretty much all areas of the city, also one tram < 1434569671 163261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and metro 4 is new and covers south-Buda < 1434569700 573806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newcastle has a weird undergroundy overgroundy thing with poor coverage of the west of the city < 1434569703 64668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some of the lines go underground very near the centre, but they're all /mostly/ above-ground) < 1434569706 147010 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :York has nothing of the sort < 1434569727 1796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically there's also metro line 1 which is different, it covers only the city, and isn't deep underground, but immediately below roads < 1434569754 776478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :London's underground lines get deeper and deeper the newer they are < 1434569767 81965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really old ones, they just cut the ground open, built the line, then built a roof over it < 1434569782 300047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newest ones they're boring through rock < 1434569795 635852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also HÉVs, which are trains that _should_ ideally be continuation of the metros that cover the farther parts of the town and the agglomeration, < 1434569800 674052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes it takes longer to walk down to the train line, then back up again at the destination, than it takes the train to get from station to statin < 1434569807 811434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ideally should be just the continuation of the metros, < 1434569818 39262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's two problems with that idea, < 1434569841 26764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is that some of them are placed inconveniently and don't match the metros, but only trams, < 1434569866 282074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other is that for all kinds of stupid policy reasons they just can't be converted to get connected with the metro even where it could work. < 1434570020 286230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they all go above ground, but they're not metro because, and they're also not train which anyone can tell from how you need different tickets, there's no toilets on the carriages, the rules for bicycles is different, and the tracks have designated directions, namely right hand side on most lines, but left hand side on the eastbound lines. < 1434570043 685594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, there's metros and HÉV and trams and they're unconnectible and don't ever form a sane system. < 1434570123 215431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/trams/trains/ < 1434570199 621395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trams are actually different < 1434570219 517023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trams work like road traffic, they often have to wait for traffic lights together with cars, or even wait for cars to pass, < 1434570269 179935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas road traffic always has to yield to trains and HÉV at level crossings because those can't stop. < 1434570286 491394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the metro and HÉV situation is just stupid and traditional < 1434570379 591454 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434570411 436483 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434570882 707391 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434571173 324526 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434571184 977599 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Stockholm we have two relatively shallow lines, one deeper line behind those two, and then they're building a commuter rail tunnel that's going to go below /that/ line < 1434571199 833815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1434571205 275300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in Stockholm? < 1434571208 556291 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434571218 468484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you knew that < 1434571251 185197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were in .fi. < 1434571257 115254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be confusing you with someone else. < 1434571257 708135 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1434571262 763226 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, yeah < 1434571282 683895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in Stockholm once. Twice. < 1434571305 756833 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you do here? < 1434571314 299447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 3 years old the first time. < 1434571325 789158 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a pretty boring city, but I guess that's because I'm just too used to it < 1434571327 764845 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1434571362 308306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second time we went to one or more museums. < 1434571375 821890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must've been 15 years old. < 1434571381 767483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Museums aren't usually my thing. < 1434571388 191998 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you saw our excellent example of engineering; a ship that broke after a couple km < 1434571397 382667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the one. < 1434571415 271443 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably the most popular museum here < 1434571434 330274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also met some friends and/or relations. < 1434571534 446698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also surprised about FireFly being in stockholm, but I think I was confusing you with Vorpal < 1434571581 369205 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Vorpal being in the middle of the forest somewhere < 1434571589 227365 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in Värmland or something? I don't know < 1434571622 694996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he told me some time, but I don't remember where < 1434571999 383283 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Bbs < 1434572316 537509 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434572682 71810 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434573022 44963 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434573348 514883 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434573732 194545 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434573741 576764 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434574026 547806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434574034 327522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1434574311 897881 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434575022 244167 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434575023 181430 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434575066 696242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, xkcd was in an esolangy mood recently: http://xkcd.com/1537/ < 1434575090 473255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought those examples might be from an actual language for a while, but clearly they aren't < 1434575096 274872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, must definitely be in esolang territory < 1434575446 438284 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be a take on that javascript wat thing < 1434575450 3252 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434575468 917038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or PHP < 1434575477 499570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many languages do that sort of thing, but not so extreme < 1434575483 15615 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434575510 614979 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434575592 327587 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, we had a discussion trying to figure it out < 1434575622 403608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there /is/ a pattern, and I think that's the point < 1434575642 720038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434575643 620869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion/You might expect a reference to recursion here, but to make it interesting you'll actuallSTACK OVERFLOW < 1434575707 314127 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, [1], [2], [4], are just weird casting, [13] is just an unusual floor function < 1434575719 141381 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5] I think is oddly greedy quote marks < 1434575728 229919 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3] is normal < 1434575733 263628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434575733 439417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5] is great < 1434575734 190384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1434575744 411822 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10] is working out the line number + 2 < 1434575751 770973 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1434575755 108905 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434575771 121125 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[11] add 2 to the number 2, so whenever there is a 2 in the future there is a 4 instead (see [12]^W[14]) < 1434575771 590652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't explain [2] with weird cast rules though < 1434575782 963864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, 11 is Forte-style? I missed that < 1434575818 784727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think it's casting "2" to an int, then to a list of ints, then appending the two lists, then turning the whole thing into a string < 1434575836 939013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: exactly, there's no reason to turn the whole thing into a string at the end < 1434575844 121245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that a string was involved to start with < 1434575850 327272 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did specify weird casting rules, right? < 1434575865 378458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, maybe this is an everything-is-a-string language like Perl is when it doesn't leak implementation details? < 1434575892 578125 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what [6] through [8] are doing, though < 1434575901 602178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, philosophically, in Perl, if you write (say) 10 that's really just sugar for the string "10", and the fact that it's stored internally as an int is an implementation detail < 1434575923 18130 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, [8] is making fun of IEEE floating point < 1434575926 383347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in [8], the idea is that the denominator is approximately 0 < 1434575934 324029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, dividing 2 by it gives you a NaN with a rounding error < 1434575948 221347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that specific example doesn't work because it's using powers of 2) < 1434576045 904490 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434576213 668001 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434577255 170099 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434577920 281973 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434578549 644055 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434578898 119572 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434579050 19955 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434579759 750610 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434579908 759295 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434580255 821412 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* 10New user account < 1434580322 427500 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434580391 901882 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434580527 648309 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1434580576 833969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Damarok14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43214 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+243) 10Created Article (I'm so sorry) < 1434580606 446103 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434580667 362573 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FIRST PROGRAM A PROGRAMMER WRITES < 1434580676 921534 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :</damarok> < 1434580931 213178 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1434581156 515697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434581262 851428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434581280 984250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two/An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction < 1434581296 36446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/off by two < 1434581302 949392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott olsner < 1434581354 658730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434581356 950714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_/mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW) < 1434581362 381898 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434581404 536066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1434581407 740188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1434581499 380475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43215&oldid=42034 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+403) 10/* Category: Libraries */ new section < 1434581507 415368 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels a bit like magic sometimes, cooking. < 1434581540 921901 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, somehow some flour, salt, baking powder, butter, milk, and sausage turned into biscuits and gravy. < 1434581574 828130 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434581579 113060 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool < 1434581587 120184 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It notified you whesomething < 1434581866 293513 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When something happens < 1434581898 469732 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They better have programmed that in modified BrainFuck or something < 1434581940 168809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is weird, but in a way different from what you expect. < 1434581961 581900 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each command is a Linux program. It spawns a Linux kernel, runs that program, and outputs the result. < 1434581978 189356 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if you want an esolang bot, you need look no further than fungot. < 1434581978 395039 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: depends on the order i described it roughly earlier. have a happy fnord i am < 1434581981 506479 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is in Befunge. < 1434581981 682170 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: as a fnord < 1434581985 751202 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434582048 759696 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love befunge < 1434582051 761394 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434582057 100114 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty neat language. < 1434582064 451212 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried implementing it yesterday < 1434582072 993539 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World won't work < 1434582091 687887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: -93 or -98? < 1434582092 475183 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I promised anyone reading my commits I'd get it working today... < 1434582096 696376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you haven't seen it yet < 1434582097 102438 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 < 1434582100 25356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get hold of a copy of Mycology < 1434582106 241017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll catch a ton of common mistakes < 1434582106 947898 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard about it < 1434582108 51671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mycology < 1434582109 272933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434582116 447109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do we not have actually useful information in the learndb? :-( < 1434582132 70668 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading the ideas list < 1434582165 257391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1434582167 234501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mycology': mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1434582175 51564 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-98 is kinda hard to implement. < 1434582176 792600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: definitely read that, it'll probably tell you what your interp is doing wrong < 1434582189 59430 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stumled across an idea for a language called Darmok < 1434582193 860954 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-93 is not very hard, but it's also not that interesting to have an implementation for. :) < 1434582214 958283 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I created a page for it. I apologized in the notes < 1434582224 100923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-98 is a great language to impl, though < 1434582231 635054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several Mycology-passing interps now I think < 1434582236 665346 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darmok, if you aren't aware, is an episode of ST:TNG. Apparently < 1434582245 557112 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though probably almost no compilers :P < 1434582277 364086 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Darmok, they encouter a species that communicates completely through metaphors and references to local mythology < 1434582283 646439 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that < 1434582294 163037 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They take a while to figure it out < 1434582294 338776 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. It's hard to implement, but hard to implement in interesting ways. < 1434582298 758704 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434582305 800581 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a Befunge-98 implementation can actually do neat things. < 1434582355 416318 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Terminate Sibling" for example, would be CAIN AND ABEL IN THE GARDEN (if "terminate sibling" is even a real command) < 1434582384 695116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually an operation that can be done on threads that makes sense, and might potentially be slightly useful on occasion < 1434582385 881862 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, though, does DARMOK AND JILAD AT TENAGRA mean? < 1434582393 956490 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434582401 618121 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1434582405 854739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if you're doing some sort of threaded exhaustive search and only need one result < 1434582413 147220 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, indeed, GILGAMESH AND ENKIDU AT URUK? < 1434582425 893754 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that Damarok the language would also only reference real mythology < 1434582428 592672 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One sec < 1434582436 223007 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how the epic of gilgamesh goes < 1434582451 117489 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was just referencing the episode; don't mind me < 1434582455 415184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem isn't so much finding something for your commands to do, though, but finding some way to express the commands you need < 1434582461 284570 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434582462 948989 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Libraries < 1434582468 197898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, you can just add a ton of commands and hope they add up to something TC < 1434582473 820948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: initial Snowflake) < 1434582476 742443 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem would be that there would ALWAYS be libraries needed < 1434582484 695785 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everyone would implement them differently < 1434582486 394884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that was awkward because I needed a pretty exact amount of computational power < 1434582521 527451 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they'd need to implement the entirety of some libraries on their own < 1434582553 328744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: that's not so dissimilar from INTERCAL, we solved the problem by encouraging people to submit them to a centralised repo < 1434582554 904497 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think to terminate a sibling you would type "CAIN AND ABEL IN THE GARDEN, WHERE ABEL IS <sibling>" < 1434582561 775878 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434582564 77073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they could use each other's libraries < 1434582564 388319 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaah < 1434582569 444313 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1434582581 436107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even more a problem in INTERCAL because all line numbers are global, so you need to avoid clashes between different libaries) < 1434582596 295220 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1434582624 757845 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think that every statement would have two clauses (well, one main clause and an arguments clause), separated by the comma < 1434582633 78663 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The COMMAND clause and the WHERE clause < 1434582648 726513 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command clause is the reference to mythology < 1434582681 117702 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the WHERE clause is substitutions (which are needed for formality) < 1434582704 521225 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "CAIN AND ABEL IN THE GARDEN, WHERE ABEL IS <sibling>" means to kill a process of name <sibling> < 1434582733 98496 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CAIN AND ABEL IN THE GARDEN" alone would... I don't know... Kill the next sibling sequentially? < 1434582740 656166 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And commands are separated by newlines < 1434582741 816761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Deewiant> mycology.b98 tests every fingerprint that I am aware of, apart from FNGR, SGNL, and WIND. ← it doesn't test IFFI :-( < 1434582797 324332 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that doesn't account for complex statements... < 1434582803 136379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IFFI postdates Mycology, though < 1434582856 445532 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name a famous decision from popular folklore/mythology < 1434582869 255252 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434582929 807684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossing the Rubicon? although that's more historical rather than mythological < 1434582956 861756 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what that was. Let me check < 1434583047 92619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Julius Caesar taking his part of the Roman Army into Italy (which was totally illegal), thus sparking a civil war < 1434583054 636474 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CEASER CROSSING THE RUBICON, WHERE CONDITION IS <condition> AND CROSSING IS:\n\t<stuff to do> < 1434583062 94812 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that < 1434583075 797615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: note that you don't really want to just design an imperative language with the keywords swapped out < 1434583086 628488 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434583087 266624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it isn't really interesting < 1434583092 163331 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just a prototype < 1434583092 349407 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434583098 913193 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate langs like that < 1434583113 322825 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm currently just creating some basic ideas < 1434583143 999498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434583210 499045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, there's an interesting debate about what exactly Caesar said when crossing the river < 1434583219 834006 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/hppavilion1/Damarok < 1434583222 207538 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1434583225 630093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's widely agreed how it's translated into English, there's some debate about the word order of the original and whether it was in Latin or Greek < 1434583242 943767 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the repo where we'll put code < 1434583455 549543 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434583463 614553 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1434583477 484591 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have an _ in my name :/ < 1434583490 382015 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434583603 953912 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434583624 943854 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can we do to make it less keyword-swapout-y < 1434583687 29803 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434583695 650200 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434583720 685145 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally it'd be able to take a set of metaphors and interpret what they mean, but that'd require a prize-winning AI that probably would lag normal computers to hell < 1434583784 261828 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom intercal < 1434583785 160954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ /The final frontier. < 1434583809 139191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom doesn't work that way hth < 1434583810 881205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj/shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj is the reason why the USA don't use the metric system. < 1434583817 967490 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom walrus < 1434583819 84037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant info/The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller. < 1434583819 824967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should `wisdom be merged with `? ? < 1434583836 74461 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom YOUR MUM < 1434583837 88416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora/Fiora is half JRPG fangirl, half SIMD dork, and all sucrose. She's a sous-chef who shushes sushi. < 1434583864 329859 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Fiora isn't shachaf's mum < 1434583870 604058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you probably meant `? < 1434583873 949536 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom wisdom < 1434583874 846762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh/twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1434583875 22442 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I broke it :P < 1434583879 259516 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1434583883 133870 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't take any parameter < 1434583887 190185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1_: hint: `wisdom ignores any arguments < 1434583890 827592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1434583891 229947 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? intercal < 1434583895 829415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1434583898 243768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market. < 1434583907 398687 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, it's been a while since Fiora's been here, hasn't it? < 1434583909 261056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? øvrigt < 1434583909 971619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øvrigt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434583916 445551 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c++ < 1434583917 185390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1434583921 294909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, I think she left around the time when kmc left < 1434583922 28428 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434583923 110250 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1434583932 915345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434583933 447978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zork/Zork is like York, except for the first letter. < 1434583935 13342 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1434583935 189191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1434583939 717297 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc left too? Nooooo < 1434583949 591203 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's next, no ehird? < 1434583950 23021 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures < 1434583955 100349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'java': java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures < 1434583959 487289 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn < 1434583960 118586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 3: wisdom/: Is a directory \ Learned '': < 1434583983 388265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even I've been known to leave this channel for long periods of time, because it wasn't ontopic enough < 1434583986 623778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's been fine recently < 1434583995 471308 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434583997 284532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'yo': yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434584006 437737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434584008 217444 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434584011 205563 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done < 1434584015 409722 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434584015 585327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was about to `revert but I think we might have reverted each other < 1434584024 23121 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, it's undone < 1434584034 528597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we /still/ have a broken canary in the system somewhere? < 1434584036 107985 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1434584036 900823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures < 1434584045 768081 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it seems it messed up the history somehow < 1434584045 980147 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? you < 1434584048 915116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a haskell < 1434584050 903100 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yo < 1434584051 551469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434584052 859998 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it's messed up because of the history, somehow < 1434584078 973681 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn haskell is the most beautiful language ever invented < 1434584082 614254 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1434584102 705606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if hppavilion1_'s client chose a nick based on the computer's name, or if it's an actual nickname < 1434584124 715077 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chose the nick when I was 7 and didn't want to forget my username < 1434584130 584364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434584133 513317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1434584133 738420 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434584135 73073 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's usually hppavilion1, but my browser timed out < 1434584144 692151 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can /nick hppavilion1 < 1434584150 30299 :hppavilion1_!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 NICK :hppavilion1 < 1434584154 446082 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1434584158 575040 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm normal now < 1434584163 64531 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It annoys me that my brain lexes it as hpp|avilion|1 < 1434584173 75786 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1434584207 638156 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h-p-pavilion-one < 1434584242 789298 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1434584242 965148 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1434584254 968114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/yo < 1434584256 379080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 5605:a4afa9eaa9ff \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Wed Jun 17 23:35:10 2015 +0000 \ summary: <hppavilion1_> learn yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434584258 312743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is interesting. < 1434584262 53199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/yo < 1434584262 693755 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/yo: No such file or directory < 1434584265 824947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat wisdom/yo < 1434584266 662575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434584288 882084 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434584297 792968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that revert isn't actually working. < 1434584309 504689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it isn't modifying the hg repository, even if it's modifying the working directory? < 1434584317 280317 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're designing an EsoLang called Damarok < 1434584326 254458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's going on twh < 1434584366 306846 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is kewlzez < 1434584389 886295 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses references to mythology and metaphor < 1434584408 489274 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue how to implement it short of brute force regexes < 1434584428 204815 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like an inefficient implementation < 1434584435 90016 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be < 1434584449 158756 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sorted dictionary regexes < 1434584462 34351 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not literal brute force < 1434584594 645561 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I suppose it would only sort #included libs < 1434584669 409640 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it isn't TOO inefficient < 1434584679 796561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: also you should set up /hilight on ireFly\b < 1434584703 254943 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of a thought experiment language and something to use for mindbendingness, not for implementing stuff < 1434584720 123279 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I probably should, just for you. What channel did I miss it in now? < 1434584731 180965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1434584756 390886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many are you in? < 1434584776 247734 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use 1 because it's soooo much easier < 1434584826 269790 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm new to IRC < 1434585052 694252 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that my newer SLOBOL language can be run faster than double exponential time. < 1434585076 944608 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.o < 1434585081 767669 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double exponential time!? < 1434585100 611715 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION DDGs double exponential time, though he's pretty sure he knows what it means < 1434585172 256087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :double exponential time is exponential time approximated with double-precision floating point arithmetic < 1434585173 739903 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1434585176 888549 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434585187 739596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434585188 716104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :macabre/The Macabres have been the hereditary rulers of Lochaber for 3 centuries. < 1434585191 373472 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was x^(y^z) < 1434585211 55115 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434585213 382853 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is joking. < 1434585217 532909 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434585228 223576 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jokes don't go through text very well < 1434585237 195622 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, at least < 1434585241 639214 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least that kind < 1434585254 200396 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That SPECIFIC joke doesn't translate < 1434585272 824128 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`walrus < 1434585273 928110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: walrus: not found < 1434585281 983539 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kill < 1434585285 285170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ Usage: \ kill [options] <pid> [...] \ \ Options: \ <pid> [...] send signal to every <pid> listed \ -<signal>, -s, --signal <signal> \ specify the <signal> to be sent \ -l, --list=[<signal>] list all signal names, or convert one to a name \ -L, --table list all signal names in a nice table \ < 1434585291 391980 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a SLOBOL program contains n points, then the easiest upper bound on the number of ways of executing the program is (3^n)!. < 1434585304 537741 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1434585317 815854 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3^b)! !? < 1434585328 593832 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3^b)!, if b = n. < 1434585329 286855 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must now open wolfram alpha and see that graphed < 1434585361 587310 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OW < 1434585363 559045 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Wow < 1434585398 56527 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(70) at ~1 < 1434585400 210790 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 0, it's 1; for 1, it's 6; for 2, it's 362880; for 3, it's 10888869450418352160768000000; for 4, it's 5797126020747367985879734231578109105412357244731625958745865049716390179693892056256184534249745940480000000000000000000; and so on. < 1434585429 168190 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1434585436 32274 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's slooooooooow < 1434585439 76599 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just for a naive implementation, though. < 1434585440 163555 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language did you use? < 1434585448 133191 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually implemented it. < 1434585450 789162 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434585460 455425 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language do you plan to use? < 1434585467 71745 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not planning to implement it, either. < 1434585467 832215 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you plan to do it < 1434585479 946315 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it wouldn't be very effective :P < 1434585486 758736 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms himsel < 1434585487 847817 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1434585514 274415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / leave them perplexed < 1434585527 66505 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1434585535 474847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, in retrospect that could be seen as slightly rude tdnh < 1434585542 185264 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could < 1434585544 497771 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm fine with it < 1434585550 659719 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait < 1434585558 285639 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434585581 447858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/leave them/be left/ < 1434585621 284067 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a guy, in case you're wondering. < 1434585663 631432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not wondering < 1434585673 153546 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1434585673 902140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1434585678 869481 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1434585680 68871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1434585681 134797 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used "they" < 1434585697 128667 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, hairy toe help. < 1434585739 441552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose h stands for hewlett and not higgledy < 1434585752 856442 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what HackEgo knows about me. < 1434585756 648264 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1434585757 415384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins < 1434585771 18528 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1 < 1434585771 705240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434585775 756446 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: about 50 < 1434585792 41208 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hppavilion1, want me to ask my neural net to come up with a random quote from you? < 1434585799 375684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 what? < 1434585800 19229 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hppavilion1 is higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / leave them perplexed < 1434585802 645035 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works too < 1434585803 138247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, channels. < 1434585805 902811 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hppavilion1': hppavilion1 is higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / leave them perplexed < 1434585822 568696 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1 < 1434585823 406868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 is higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / leave them perplexed < 1434585851 743622 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: channels < 1434585871 548212 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading scrollback on a phone is a bit annoying < 1434585873 310228 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, here's your randomly generated quote. < 1434585874 555395 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:05:57: <hppavilion1> lambdabot hackenv/[Nines use length a channel definition transport for the bit really sufficient include branching mode, 10 particular thing though.... < 1434585875 879904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/\w\+ \w\+ //' -e 's/leave them/be left/' wisdom/hppavilion1 < 1434585877 642689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434585905 831891 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although on that note I should get my phone keyboard after midsummer < 1434585915 852781 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion` < 1434585917 199848 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1 < 1434585919 526296 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that will help. < 1434585919 702001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434585920 41026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed < 1434585943 43667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Are you coming visit for some poutine and Magic: The Gathering cards? < 1434585972 919322 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in SF or something, aren't you? < 1434585986 72529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less < 1434585987 839104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1434585988 119755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 172353Z 29014KT 10SM FEW180 18/10 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP128 T01780100 10206 20172 58004 < 1434585999 45495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe pikhq is coming here too? < 1434586022 199763 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'll visit anytime soon, but if I do I wouldn't mind poutine and Magic < 1434586039 576851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :limited-time offer hth < 1434586051 99821 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I haven't played a lot of MtG and would be really terrible < 1434586096 69323 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had poutine. How is it? < 1434586100 428222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not my thing. < 1434586140 151787 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems very likely I'll be in SF. < 1434586163 972022 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I technically don't have the job offer yet, but I should tomorrow. < 1434586175 546406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i because in all of the whole human race, mrs. lovett, there are two kinds of men and only two: there's the one staying poutine his proper place, and the one with his foot in the other one's face < 1434586181 506367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: SF, not MTV? < 1434586192 649838 :hppavilion1!8b37207a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.32.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434586198 931339 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Okay, I'll actually be in MTV or thereabouts. < 1434586203 716727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1434586205 474026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people I know are going to work in the SF office these days. < 1434586212 616124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprising given that it's such a small office. < 1434586214 874885 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently some Google employees commute from SF to MTV, but... fuck that. < 1434586232 272757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, you do get a fancy gentrification bus. < 1434586246 779545 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder what it's like to live in SF < 1434586258 244139 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this... tech company culture < 1434586259 38805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about flour in your hair, I think. < 1434586272 947602 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer not to spend an hour on a bus that's powered by the tears of victims of a failure to build houses. < 1434586289 770012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that seems like a very inefficient power source < 1434586305 892566 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but in copious supply in SF. < 1434586335 232483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commuting from SF to MTV isn't uncommon, and not just for Google employees. < 1434586343 415294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty backwards situation. < 1434586359 536974 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is one hour a long commute for you? < 1434586398 776817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I commuted one hour to university for a few years, but now I almost live on-campus < 1434586449 163742 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think an hour was too bad, although I wouln't want to commute for longer than that. < 1434586450 408501 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's decently long and I hate commute times. < 1434586489 162428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I commute ~6 minutes in the morning, or less if I walk quickly. < 1434586683 114948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I would want though is the Magic: the Puzzling printed out many ones. < 1434586808 131122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up some if you know what to make up < 1434587061 437596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n 'FireFly: '; '?' sleep < 1434587062 158474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Sleep is for the weak. < 1434587086 661147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/sleep < 1434587088 99134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1434587204 402377 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should bin/'ify that as maybe `@ < 1434587216 415227 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ FireFly sleep < 1434587217 34658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434587226 185643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/@ < 1434587226 718936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ $_ = join " ", @ARGV; if (s/^([^ ]*) +([^ ]*) +//) { print "$1: "; exec $2, $_; } < 1434587237 809971 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1434587244 416884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ FireFly ? sleep < 1434587245 121073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Sleep is for the weak. < 1434587256 112861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/@ < 1434587256 383788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful < 1434587257 387775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan elliott Gregor shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1434587262 684164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks nitia < 1434587263 279162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, nitia. Thitia. < 1434587292 193156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed bin/@ | grep summary: < 1434587293 514325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <oerjan> revert \ summary: <oerjan> sed -i \'2s!s/!s/no\\+dl/nooodl/;s/!\' bin/? \ summary: <elliott> mv ibin/"@" bin \ summary: <Gregor> mkdir ibin; for i in bin/*; do if [ "`grep \'\\. lib/interp\' $i`" ]; then mv $i ibin/; fi; done; printf \'#!/bin/sh\\nCMD=`cut -d\' \' -f1 "$1"`\\nARG=`cut -d\' \' -f2- "$2"`\\nexec ibin < 1434588450 298892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ FireFly ? bed < 1434588450 977123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: bed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434588600 184660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588601 92483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thyme/Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1434588605 28115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588606 601676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narutoverse/narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. Sgeo drives the bus. < 1434588611 833310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588612 639856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom:/wisdom: taking the ovenware out of the oven before turning it on < 1434588629 522486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/wisdom: < 1434588631 99450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434588651 507644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588652 288923 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ants/thants < 1434588654 826087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588656 695648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ci/The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1434588665 268450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588666 59502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1434588673 728985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Taneb did not exist, we would have to invent him? < 1434588717 338247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il invented wisdom | sed 's#wisdom/##' | xargs < 1434588719 86052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey twoducks wolfram stephen wolfram chu space go automatic squirrel feeder persistence real mroman weetoflake unicode ci torus d-module rtf sgeo this sentence < 1434588723 911277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il invented wisdom | sed 's#wisdom/##' < 1434588727 739941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey \ twoducks \ wolfram \ stephen wolfram \ chu space \ go \ automatic squirrel feeder \ persistence \ real \ mroman \ weetoflake \ unicode \ ci \ torus \ d-module \ rtf \ sgeo \ this sentence < 1434588743 888167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reals < 1434588744 593574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. < 1434588768 59518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/a /an overt /' wisdom/real < 1434588769 752464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434588853 962956 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, this neural net keeps producing output consisting chiefly of dozens and dozens of lines of mroman interacting with bots. < 1434588858 311558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588859 113315 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_______hoover/It doesn't get any better than this. < 1434588864 336682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588865 196958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland/Połąńd is a European country. Its population consists of two main ethnicities, the North Połes and the South Połes. < 1434588874 575268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588875 321908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :context/context is a word with many meanings, depending on where it is used. < 1434588884 574617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434588885 470099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaplace/Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1434588979 773659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1434588980 460573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1434588993 531615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? automatic squirrel feeder < 1434588994 246693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. < 1434589127 264734 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Sgeo < 1434589128 349062 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex, thus killing it within a month. He was Doctor Mengele in his previous life, as evidenced by his norn experiments. < 1434589150 627195 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sex < 1434589151 521616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434589194 448810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn el camino real/There is no royal road to analytic geometry. < 1434589197 183806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «el camino real» < 1434589311 617618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589312 484234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaplace/Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1434589315 878761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589316 624563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingesorgeco/Ingesorgeco is when a German is worrying that their money might get cut short. < 1434589323 812742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589324 916464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :døsthiswork/no < 1434589326 871041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589327 662667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smileyiese/smileyieses is the plural of smiley. < 1434589354 403116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589355 150664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__hoover/Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. < 1434589357 134569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589358 650848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti/nortti boy. very nortti boy. < 1434589362 432227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434589363 248355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiohead/radiohead is "rock music" < 1434589370 539265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I might be spamming the channel a bit too much. < 1434589407 650891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also look on the webpage for the list of the file too, or you can run `wisdom in private messages < 1434589430 613741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brick < 1434589431 311255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brick goes in brain. The statutory punishment for perpetrators of brainfuck derivatives. < 1434589439 233505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/brick < 1434589440 743978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434589496 999784 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published by Taneb in 1932, based on Taneb's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434589498 704902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sex': sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published by Taneb in 1932, based on Taneb's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434589519 290762 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have basically a choice between a job I can walk to at a startup, and I job I have to take the bus to, at a big successful company. < 1434589552 689590 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember buses. < 1434589555 168696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: I take it you're currently looking for jobs? < 1434589564 421670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I used to use them pretty much every day < 1434589570 149330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1434589570 914228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Your dongers. Raise them. ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1434589578 380551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1434589579 882033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434589591 945256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solain < 1434589592 121101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I got a job, meaning that my discount on the buses no longer applied, and trains became more economical instea < 1434589593 4180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1434589593 869469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instead < 1434589597 610302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/solain < 1434589601 28171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434589606 92818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sometimes I walk to work, it only takes about 80 minutes < 1434589613 832534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1434589616 630363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of job < 1434589622 188791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you fight your snake yet? < 1434589633 106580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you publish your thesis? < 1434589659 614129 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's fighting snakes? < 1434589662 155364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thesis is still doing corrections < 1434589668 530018 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a job. < 1434589671 43546 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my resume: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GWN9AyxAkcRzZWU040T0lLZUU/view?usp=sharing < 1434589674 458819 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hire me, thanks. < 1434589674 634387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: every Basilisk programmer (I think I remembered the name of the language right?) < 1434589680 533936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I would except I can't afford to < 1434589702 607176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: have you considered moving to silly valley hth < 1434589720 222093 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the minimum wage in Britain higher than £8.15 an hour? < 1434589733 199357 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?basilisk < 1434589733 761522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?basilisk: not found < 1434589741 609160 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? basilisk < 1434589742 227152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basilisk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434589749 920785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl basilisk < 1434589751 371173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir! < 1434589755 485886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1434589763 408964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was expecting an invalid command < 1434589767 423223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wl < 1434589768 84689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ \ import os \ import sys \ import json \ import urllib2 \ \ proxy_handler = urllib2.ProxyHandler({'http': os.environ['http_proxy']}) \ opener = urllib2.build_opener(proxy_handler) \ urllib2.install_opener(opener) \ \ def lose(): \ print 'You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir!' \ sys.exit() \ \ def eels(): \ < 1434589800 710314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -n +16 bin/wl < 1434589801 321455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :def eels(): \ print 'My hovercraft is full of eels.' \ sys.exit() \ \ if len(sys.argv) > 2: \ args = sys.argv[1:] \ elif len(sys.argv) == 2: \ args = sys.argv[1].split() \ else: \ lose() \ \ if len(args) == 2: \ from_lang = args[0] \ to_lang = 'en' \ word = args[1] \ elif len(args) == 3: \ from_lang = args[0] \ < 1434589861 242777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: also Wikipedia says it was £9.72 in 2013 < 1434589864 692509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's raised since < 1434589887 649557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no < 1434589898 689760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :£6.50 on a different page which is presumably more accurate < 1434589931 863658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'll be raised to £6.70 this year. < 1434589942 663883 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude your resume looks way better than mine. you should move to toronto, plenty of jobs here < 1434589945 432913 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/win 23 < 1434589987 832022 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I oughtn't have made my resume using Latex < 1434590208 326441 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=03603668214762132544 < 1434590229 848288 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? generic as hell, one font, black and white < 1434590447 308297 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I've been to a couple of interviews so far, and essentially companies in Toronto fall into the two groups I described < 1434590552 986336 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could theoretically walk instead of take the bus, but only during seasons where I can stand the heat < 1434590564 258638 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Quit: mitchs_ < 1434590622 402583 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what program did you use to make that resume? < 1434591174 674314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: Microsoft® Word 2013 hth < 1434591346 717937 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw poop < 1434591367 988560 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that option right now < 1434591418 197266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer plaintext hth < 1434591765 127589 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434591873 319430 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft Word indeed. < 1434591895 751993 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML also seems pretty decent for making nice-looking documents. < 1434591912 866324 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is all right too, but LaTeX makes it really difficult to do certain things. < 1434591919 495701 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And really easy to do certain other things.) < 1434591959 571622 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: how would you feel about some feedback? < 1434591964 770020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML doesn't contain that many rendering hints < 1434591986 668231 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: rendering hints? < 1434592023 845961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: like, HTML intentionally doesn't give full control over layout; nor does LaTeX really except that that always renders the same way < 1434592031 461076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas HTML changes to the form factor of the device that's viewing it < 1434592039 493571 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1434592041 513358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like font metrics aren't specified < 1434592048 915945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43216&oldid=43200 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+1) 10/* R */ < 1434592052 440512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't tell whether an HTML document is nice-looking or not without knowing what will render it < 1434592074 218083 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can use a program to render HTML to PDF. < 1434592083 60765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Esowiki201529A person is trouble, btw (although that edit is harmless) < 1434592192 169503 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that would be great? < 1434592227 821808 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger roger. < 1434592240 68179 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: would you say that this resume is organized in order from most important stuff to least important stuff? < 1434592268 331246 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah pretty much how I did it < 1434592304 751710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43217&oldid=43216 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (-1) 10/* R */ < 1434592309 423803 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1434592461 199258 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying "I am an excellent software developer" at the beginning sounds a little strange to me. What's so excellent about you? < 1434592500 137921 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone put their resume on esolangs wiku < 1434592605 617672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: just in the channel < 1434592610 483386 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you said something like "I can learn new languages extremely quickly" or "I am extremely good at getting up to speed with existing code" or "I am extremely skilled with database query optimization" or something, that tells me something meaningful about you. < 1434592634 56172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn resume/a resume is something that you use in order to end a pause in employment < 1434592639 271646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «resume» < 1434592649 386029 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the 'excellent' was originally supposed to appy to the software < 1434592669 685717 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am a developer of excellent software"? < 1434592669 861586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pun only works because nobody bothers to type the accent, but… < 1434592680 775937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still incredibly generic, though < 1434592688 49208 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah maybe that would work better < 1434592858 722966 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How did you type … < 1434592879 459834 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434592904 363615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: compose key < 1434592920 335116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, compose . . < 1434592925 582670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have caps lock bound to compose) < 1434592936 219519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're the first person to ask even though I've been doing it for years? < 1434592989 908056 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that the best length for a resume (for a non-academic position at the junior level) is one page. < 1434593003 400749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I believe it depends on country < 1434593010 469641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's normally considered to be 1 in the US and 2 in Europe < 1434593010 652993 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it probably does. < 1434593014 424287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 100% sure on that though < 1434593016 153788 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1434593039 447845 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or one A3 page. < 1434593053 877808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Resume the Résumé" is a famous song by Cole Porter. < 1434593073 943053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you think le/rn should use two slashes like mk for consistency? < 1434593083 347121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or for any other reason.) < 1434593104 983772 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: I notice that the experience section is in forward chronological order; I usually see those in reverse chronological order. < 1434593121 7609 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm good point. < 1434593124 719343 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want people to read about your earliest experience first, or your latest experience? < 1434593131 848663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: one is enough I think < 1434593142 955975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is that it won't let you make entries with / in them. < 1434593150 448885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which can exist using subdirectories. < 1434593184 505182 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :le\rn < 1434593190 22488 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :le|rn < 1434593206 290513 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :le猫rn < 1434593226 912869 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the cat hanji? < 1434593231 237260 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434593257 952926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hanji a thing? < 1434593265 736786 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSV. cat separated values < 1434593270 572718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, hanzi. < 1434593290 776087 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First I was going to say "neko", then I realized that the character is probably used in Chinese too. < 1434593321 399389 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cat hanzi is notable chiefly for its presence in this language: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Combienti%C3%A8m < 1434593337 492298 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren\n: I'd suggest trying to make the experience section more concise. < 1434593514 21281 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... yeah. I could merge the things into years. having a separate section for each season of each year might be excessive < 1434593524 781046 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I couldn't really suggest any specific thing to cut. < 1434593565 480577 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, is the "2-day Game Jam" actually part of your education? < 1434593585 251304 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm not really < 1434593600 759678 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was sort of an extracurricular. < 1434593614 759239 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, reading that makes me wonder what it means that your team won. Does that mean you were judged the best team out of all entrants? How many entrants were there? < 1434593687 550464 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was your GPA in university? < 1434593806 739936 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There were somthing like 12 teams. My GPA was not yeat fully decided when I amde this resume. < 1434593816 223985 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to check what it is < 1434593821 631273 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434593885 269843 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.26/4.00 < 1434593933 331534 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty good; assuming it is, you should probably put it on there. < 1434594100 52330 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if I got all A's it would be 4, and if I got all B's it would be 3. < 1434594132 594153 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. and all C's get you 2 and all D's get you 1 < 1434594177 920732 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So effectivley I got an everage of B+? < 1434594190 419707 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1434594221 805720 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm about to say something hypocritical. < 1434594237 680092 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing your big list of languages and technologies makes me wonder what, exactly, you've done with all those. < 1434594251 698351 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's hypocritical because my resume doesn't explain that either. ^_^ < 1434594257 866829 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Knowledge and experience with languages including Haskell, Python, C, and SQL" < 1434594315 229144 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1434594401 724677 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess what I want to say is that at first glance, the "Experience" section seems a little daunting. But I'm not actually sure what to do about that. < 1434594409 558069 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what sorts of positions you'll be applying for? < 1434594516 569200 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been applying for a variety of different companies in different industries. the only ones I've gotton positive results from (they actually called me on the phone) were a web advertising company, and an AI startup which may or may not suceed < 1434594519 251262 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434594589 456797 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1434594601 326376 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :soo... not really, other than wanting to apply for a job as a "computer programmer" or the synonym de jour < 1434594660 473285 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I don't really have much more advice I can give. < 1434594675 882399 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it helps me! < 1434594711 616499 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the goal of my resume is to give some idea of what my skill level is and what my skills actually are. < 1434594736 483781 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric :My resume has a bunch of lies about me < 1434594765 25180 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1434594780 863554 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skills: mathematics, statistics, Haskell, Python, C, SQL, Unix, Linux, C#, ASP.NET MVCq, git, pizza. Skill level: very little professional experience but LOOK AT THIS AMAZING YELLOW BOX < 1434594785 677997 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: mine is mostly truth, tempered with my massive overconfidence < 1434594787 447628 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/q// < 1434594819 363250 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cover letter is where I actually explain why I think I'm a good fit for the position. < 1434594853 930130 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbf, it is an amazing yellow box < 1434595040 69524 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I have a good answer if anyone ever asks me "what's you biggest weakness"... Overconfidence and hubris! < 1434595072 755897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was in #nethack for a moment, that line would fit just fine in there < 1434595084 263665 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I kinda figure. Suppose someone pulls up my resume and glances at it for five seconds. What's the first thing they'll see? < 1434595113 933968 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping they'll take a single glance and see the words "Highest score ever" and think "wait, that sounds pretty cool". < 1434595127 789214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: highest score ever at what? < 1434595144 767750 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Putnam Mathematical Competition, among students at Grand Valley State University. < 1434595162 88390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again, I remember when the highest ever score at NetHack was scored, I didn't score it but I did give advice; it was almost certainly higher than the total of all NetHack scores before or since) < 1434595167 776202 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it doesn't actually particularly matter! that's the genius of it < 1434595202 618715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm hoping nobody ever tries it again < 1434595209 213924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that'll screw up the statistic < 1434595262 883255 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434595263 58824 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434595335 487458 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is genial the adjectival form of genius < 1434595445 559070 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1434595507 679903 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait apparently I wrote: < 1434595525 828815 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written programs in a variety of Languages < 1434595541 78492 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I capitalize the Languages?!!?? < 1434595543 354257 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434595701 387401 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, I forgot to mention that. < 1434595709 260115 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also... < 1434595715 497456 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neural networks AI" doesn't sound right to me. < 1434595750 90777 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neural network AI" would be a little better, but it still doesn't sound quite right. "Machine learning using neural networks" or something sounds better, imo. < 1434595789 515075 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1434595797 866696 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coordinates" is a bit of humor, I take it? < 1434595834 757649 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1434595852 397314 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434595867 633579 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you decide whether or not that's appropriate here. < 1434595869 261443 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unit testing" under Techniques and Methodologies shouldn't be capitalized unless you're capitalizing all the other words too. < 1434595909 899318 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, "Object-Oriented Design" if you're capitalizing everything, "Object-oriented design" if you're not. < 1434596176 188964 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be nice to group the "Languages and Technologies" by what they are. "Programming languages: PHP, Python, Perl, Ruby, C, C++, Java, C#, Visual Basic, Scheme. Special-purpose languages: LaTeX, HTML5, CSS. Software: MySQL, Unity3D, Apache." < 1434596178 253099 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just an idea. < 1434596301 155945 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I'm gonna go to bed. < 1434596303 313850 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night, everyone. < 1434596319 269669 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night! < 1434596326 188623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434596337 289448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apl/APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. < 1434596358 603913 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? apple < 1434596359 289181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434596368 869767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434596369 802617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids/Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1434596389 397599 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? momoids < 1434596390 17188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :momoids? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434596407 93276 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nomoids < 1434596407 851609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomoids? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434596502 201728 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? CSV < 1434596502 884188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSV? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434596508 466730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434596509 331162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.bork/welcome.bork Velcume-a tu zee interneshunel hoob fur isutereec prugremmeeng lungooege-a deseegn und depluyment! Fur mure-a inffurmeshun, check oooot oooor veeki: http://isulungs.oorg/veeki/Meeen_Pege-a. (Fur zee oozeer keend ooff isutereeca, try #isutereec oon irc.del.net.) < 1434596523 816563 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? csv < 1434596525 370675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :csv? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434596547 825130 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn CSV/CSV stands for Cat Separated Values < 1434596553 173617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «csv» < 1434596611 96398 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn CSV/CSV猫stands猫for猫Cat猫Separated猫Values < 1434596613 135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «csv» < 1434596640 817351 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fantastic. < 1434596658 118901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode 🐈 < 1434596659 131076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F408 CAT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 90 88 UTF-16BE: d83ddc08 Decimal: &#128008; \ 🐈 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1434596671 636156 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434596687 796524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode has a CAT codepoint. You should use that one instead. < 1434596708 775560 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well good for you... nicode. < 1434596728 783750 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 猫 < 1434596729 452911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+732B CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-732B] < 1434596742 617036 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but 猫, CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-732B means "cat". < 1434596745 456669 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode CJK is suck < 1434596769 932548 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode is 糞 < 1434596833 628796 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode 猫 < 1434596834 282156 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+732B CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-732B] < 1434596956 546179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the unified ideograph for "scow"? < 1434596962 557149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Rotary14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43218&oldid=42747 5* 0398.225.44.92 5* (+17) 10/* About this specification */ < 1434596992 514040 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, for "feces". < 1434597103 72076 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why could they not have put a rough approximation of the meaning in each ideogram's name?A?A? < 1434597197 485066 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434597203 856028 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*One* reason is that a Unicode character's name is invariant, and they don't want to commit *that* solidly to a given approximation. < 1434597228 750131 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another is that the specific semantics of a character vary based on both language and context. < 1434597242 176822 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet another is that not all individual ideograms have meaning by themselves. < 1434597253 406382 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, not all individual ideograms have *currently known* meaning. < 1434597266 561024 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some of them, hilariously, are *known to be meaningless*) < 1434597266 936596 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There are also a lot of other newer fingerprints Mycology doesn't test, but at the time that statement was probably correct. < 1434597299 823971 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the ones that do, then? I mean they put in the currently thought pronounciation for all those ancient writing characters < 1434597352 140883 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH CAT 732B < 1434597408 921530 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, they at least have the known information documented in the Unihan db. < 1434597464 992616 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1434597782 470984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be a HTTP response code used if authentication has been provided and is valid, but the user that has authenticated does not have permission to perform the current operation? < 1434597842 673671 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :403 Forbidden. < 1434597869 759681 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :401 is for "it would be permissible if you authenticate", 403 is for "you do not have this permission". < 1434597966 706819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it *might* be allowed if you reauthenticate with a different username/password, although the program doesn't know that, nor does the program know how the authentication system works; it only knows which user has authenticated. < 1434598115 388335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says "Unlike a 401 Unauthorized response, authenticating will make no difference." However, it is unknown in my case whether or not authenticating will make a difference; it is only known that valid authentication has already been provided but that the specified user hasn't the correct permissions. < 1434598184 691161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, the actual "HTTP 403" page says that 403 also means "Authentication was provided, but the authenticated user is not permitted to perform the requested operation." < 1434598191 764283 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434598508 767548 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434598909 503003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1434599297 99060 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434599919 899056 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434600022 799362 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht is apparently something other than just the strongest witch from Madoka < 1434600090 694906 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434600355 88674 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's a holiday celebrated last april < 1434600371 775769 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :With bonfires, at least here < 1434600377 81443 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :News to me. < 1434600487 196072 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night I guess it's a north-european thing < 1434600502 867236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps more germanic, ish < 1434600541 494709 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the United States, Walpurgisnacht is one of the major holidays celebrated within LaVeyan Satanism and is the anniversary of the founding of the Church of Satan." ... < 1434600628 383635 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434600751 63018 :password2!~password@197.77.88.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434600764 434164 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original political organization that became the Death Eaters in Harry Potter was called the Knights of Walpurgis < 1434600976 671383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL < 1434601797 578642 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434602339 142551 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1434602528 528166 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic_ < 1434602759 386309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1434602771 335638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awake already? < 1434603039 585707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434603077 14616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1434603077 227921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 17h 7m 22s ago: http://codepad.org/LA8kRBCM < 1434603094 706507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what was going on when i asked fizzie what's going on twh < 1434603206 902636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask me in a few hours when i've got through the logs hth < 1434603231 101689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan what was going on < 1434603231 277316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434603240 126265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1434603240 302112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1434603268 281864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed you wouldn't talk until you finished reading the logs. < 1434603275 631346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that might not be true. < 1434603344 849651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mroman wat < 1434603345 25211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434603363 825655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i ever get around to talking then < 1434603390 588212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :searching for my own nick is the first thing i do. < 1434603450 221799 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434603569 852428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: often i procrastinate reading the logs by browsing something else hth < 1434603604 10176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, sometimes i skip them altogether after the nick search step. very tempting today. < 1434603607 356812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you realize that logreading is your duty hth < 1434603632 852895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway just explain what's going on with wisdom/yo < 1434603649 802431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yo < 1434603652 703623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434603668 922454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434603671 918430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see nothing weird < 1434603680 413216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/yo < 1434603683 991231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434603695 609936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434603699 875681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1434603707 512490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434603712 218962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yo < 1434603712 936595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo mama so fat, insert joke here < 1434603716 584034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/yo < 1434603718 799824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434603721 190125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk blah//hi < 1434603722 776673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1434603724 377278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434603724 918838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434603731 212416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wtf are you doing < 1434603731 388257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat blah < 1434603731 864597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: blah: No such file or directory < 1434603734 301477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat blah < 1434603735 158988 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434603806 476844 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I slept on and off, didn't really fall asleep properly I think < 1434603812 718881 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1434603819 975457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i might ask HackEgo the same question < 1434603825 210636 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out what your email is < 1434603832 37225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have told Gregor about the `revert problems in /msg but both he and fizzie have been idle for days. < 1434603849 717970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the point of all this is that we thought revert was working and it wasn't hth < 1434603871 441467 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it impressive and a bit creepy that Google suggests "shachaf ben-tiki" if I enter "shachaf" < 1434603873 750195 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor committed a few minutes ago. < 1434603875 591938 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, kiki* < 1434603881 320297 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, 2 hours ago. < 1434603883 624615 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time! < 1434603925 800642 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just scroll up to read what was said earlier < 1434603961 319959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: _some_ reverts show up in the repository browser, others don't. < 1434603970 186866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been that way for a while. < 1434603979 239006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fishy if you ask me < 1434603992 937874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say they don't show up you mean they don't get committed at all, right? < 1434604001 672620 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears irssi saves about 1 day worth of stuff < 1434604010 322002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've had a suspicion that it happens when the revert is of a file creation. < 1434604019 231385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434604023 715265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this fit your examples? < 1434604031 907784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1434604072 99282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/overt //' wisdom/real < 1434604074 425021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434604097 962143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434604099 336916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434604124 168876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe < 1434604137 96124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what i told Gregor about wasn't this, but that stupid error message, which is probably unrelated because `revert has been fishy for ages. < 1434604141 989533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok emergency over < 1434604148 570216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1434604148 783921 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1434604149 234187 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1434604149 409811 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c  |\ /| |   |     |\ c.c /<     |     >\|/|  c.c /< < 1434604149 818409 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´\              (_|¯`¯|_) < 1434604150 140526 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| |_)                  < 1434604186 554630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's because of people like you hth < 1434604238 579237 :oren\n!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren < 1434604239 916550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: When I type "FireFly" into Google, it finds the television series, the restaurant, and the music festival. < 1434604258 809033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing about you or the insect. < 1434604270 385754 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1434604272 464476 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the javascript debugger? < 1434604278 646642 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firebug? < 1434604279 623348 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that's firebug < 1434604291 496188 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've come to understand the TV series is p. popular < 1434604299 598663 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the most common source of mis-highlights < 1434604356 268969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assume shachaf is a pretty rare name. is it in the bible anywhere? < 1434604364 439217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434604370 727466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a part that says you're not supposed to eat them < 1434604385 678023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean as a human name hth < 1434604394 391113 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing it doesn't forbid swatting them < 1434604394 566737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or angel, i think those count too < 1434604533 513222 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seagull? < 1434604554 652746 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, you can't eat seagulls? < 1434604575 799509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you shoot them for eating your lunch? < 1434604593 65779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because they're scavengers? < 1434604622 159063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0311.htm < 1434604634 519691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leviticus 11:16 it looks like hth < 1434604678 859274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you cannot eat camels? < 1434604713 409095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the muslims didn't keep that part. < 1434604713 584716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm vegetarian hth < 1434604717 581872 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of detestable kinds of birds? < 1434604768 60193 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the gecko, and the land-crocodile, and the lizard, and the sand-lizard, and the chameleon. < 1434604810 698742 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how that could be so prevalent as to need to make a rule about it... < 1434604836 724800 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I agree that reptiles are probably not good eating < 1434604847 876080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they were not very good at counting insect legs < 1434604964 559012 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :locusts are permissable, probably because they are still a famine food in many areas of africa < 1434604978 631135 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and were back then too < 1434604982 319580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part is about counting insect legs? < 1434604999 601107 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 Yet these may ye eat of all winged swarming things that go upon all fours, which have jointed legs above their feet, wherewith to leap upon the earth; < 1434605048 483506 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if the hebrew has the number four in it thoug < 1434605107 396142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1434605156 20093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old leviticus < 1434605181 345302 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that counts as a loophole allowing to eat all insects which have six legs? < 1434605208 490212 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that anyone in their right minds would want to < 1434605246 914821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your definition of "right mind" shows a certain cultural bias tdnh < 1434605266 218420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's the topic of someone's thesis or something hth < 1434605299 445311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/moses/two-missing-legs/ < 1434605417 518975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434605418 426809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :croissont supplier/See misspellings of croissant < 1434605469 980929 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cwasaw < 1434605523 30067 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuasaung < 1434605537 165533 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434605564 818831 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cwasawng < 1434605583 493571 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cwasong < 1434605612 181735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qua son? < 1434605622 783979 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :qason < 1434605678 346403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xazõ < 1434605688 54159 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :crasseauoing < 1434605697 154443 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :crasseauoinge < 1434605701 127245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Krasseneuung < 1434606157 298139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 <ais523> there's not much point of doing a JAMH in Malbolge because it doesn't look visually different from any other Malbolge program <-- obviously a JAMH should somehow be surprisingly _readable_ hth < 1434606157 473739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434606456 543227 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's possible in Malbolge < 1434606458 866666 :password2!~password@197.77.88.4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434607014 276572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would certainly take some effort. < 1434607105 549332 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434607178 799761 :quietella!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434607560 160863 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1434607781 630430 :quietella!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1434608348 188014 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434608836 686299 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a jamh < 1434608868 869564 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1434608890 613264 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just another malbolge hacker? < 1434608925 710987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1434609039 974818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434609056 208104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1434609143 137225 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1434609165 278336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: am i `wisdom-spamming too much twh < 1434609408 571182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434609454 460770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you said twh, yes < 1434609464 325715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1434609511 204144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant that truth would help hth < 1434609533 306933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1434609857 285100 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434610506 19646 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434611035 843683 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434613419 570557 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434613439 932992 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1434613658 762541 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1434613663 800321 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-laut < 1434613663 976072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 2h 51m 59s ago: wat < 1434613667 192612 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434613696 40438 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just like you said: You can use flags to do if conditions. < 1434613707 500032 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434613707 926043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1434613740 345106 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, for additions/subtractions at least < 1434613744 752343 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need more for TCness < 1434614039 5169 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that doesn't prove that BF with do-while loops is TC < 1434615607 332654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'off by two' < 1434615614 248003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434615619 967309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off by two < 1434615622 574165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. < 1434615919 673292 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I do many $ optional ... in parsec? < 1434615929 238656 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :many can't accept a Parser that accepts an empty String < 1434615931 159511 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1434615935 312652 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :many $ optional comment < 1434615937 497130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1434615941 488559 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just many $ comment < 1434615945 90394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1434616067 594961 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that still doesn't fix it < 1434616203 211790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does comment itself accept an empty string < 1434616285 582131 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but skipSpaces did < 1434616324 858924 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434616330 870419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skipSpaces >> many (comment <* skipSpaces) < 1434616334 68590 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/EQaIActa < 1434616339 484886 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still doesn't accept leading spaces :( < 1434616362 563084 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now leading spaces causes it to want a comment < 1434616423 844528 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fixed* < 1434616425 16093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok basic rule on how to do space skipping in a free-form language in parsec: have _one_ skipSpaces at the start of the whole file parse, and one after every token. < 1434616471 476620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where a token is something like an identifier) < 1434616505 950595 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language? < 1434616517 935025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: parsec is in haskell < 1434616540 599463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for ports) < 1434616545 656875 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to achieve < 1434616568 456880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing some new language, i guess < 1434616577 994930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what parsec is usually used for < 1434616681 172653 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that parsec is in haskell I was wondering what he was trying to parse < 1434616695 452364 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434616733 237409 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen anything like it. < 1434616754 641338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall mroman is making a new golfing language, don't know if it's that < 1434616764 968387 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1434616816 724552 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that golfing site < 1434616818 774848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some weird parsing rules, with both infix and postfix operators < 1434616827 823098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1434616832 432393 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That was just an experiment :) < 1434616835 732114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434616839 46320 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yes it had weird parse rules < 1434616849 402076 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had < 1434616854 279438 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still has. < 1434616854 989147 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you fixed it < 1434616859 355653 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well then < 1434616897 212245 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434616901 79818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to be that way < 1434616917 886628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of having parentheses in ((5+1)+3) you use a prefix comma < 1434616922 310075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,5+1+3 < 1434616936 189353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: we did some golfing over at http://golf.shinh.org/ last autumn but i think most of us got bored of it again < 1434616961 151632 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see ill look at it for distractions < 1434617039 508080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried haskell but henkma is too good for me to beat (except that one time) < 1434617054 411596 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434617063 647640 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it like a challenge < 1434617094 858547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434617110 635325 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like challenges < 1434617129 778242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the shortest program in a language that gives the given outputs for the given inputs < 1434617147 155704 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/2fJnZo4I < 1434617151 377829 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's what I'm trying to parse < 1434617170 573027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that site is very liberal on the definition of the task: it is allowed to completely ignore the task description and cheat, as long as you match input to output. < 1434617193 530602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mainly, that's all that is tested.) < 1434617198 185920 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's missing a decrement for $len but that doesn't matter for parsing purposes :) < 1434617205 490540 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive expansion looks crazy < 1434617214 886489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: was just looking at it < 1434617298 756826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is this the all-loops-are-run-at-least-once language? it's a bit confusing to use while { } if so... < 1434617375 643029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact int-e also got too good for me to beat after a bit of warmup) < 1434617376 972640 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434617410 577813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434617521 435196 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's winning on recursive < 1434617529 271035 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it measured by byte sizs < 1434617537 285159 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Size* < 1434617552 644031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, see table at end of page < 1434617568 872918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a table for each language < 1434617585 262362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that someone has tried) < 1434617619 623945 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434617635 139506 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434617677 973582 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Connection error < 1434617723 478075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense some trickiness in the details of that problem: why are the ___ lines unbroken on the top but not the bottom? < 1434617777 781977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1434617787 558184 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about mromans problem < 1434617789 54516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to break when there's a | in there < 1434617796 740559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, about recursive < 1434617815 881612 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those the only languages supported for this problem < 1434617849 908682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just the only ones anyone has tried to submit < 1434617858 952527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of supported languages < 1434617887 206466 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434617911 524891 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying cyan < 1434617956 366395 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 105 you'd think there would be more < 1434617956 905186 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are over 90 languages supported < 1434617978 582624 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it probably the biggest golfing site out there < 1434618068 871524 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean by endless < 1434618076 764316 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434618092 783371 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it just make an "endless" string or is it unsolvable < 1434618128 348255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: just that there's no deadline, also you never get to see the other solutions < 1434618135 860582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're not even saved) < 1434618175 962641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that, it's the same kind of challenge < 1434618193 526037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no, probably not the biggest, because golf SE is pretty large these days, and there are a few other big ones with fewer languages < 1434618205 889303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's certainly one of the biggest < 1434618240 532541 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434618264 371129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sure. < 1434618276 931907 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, oerjan < 1434618281 484999 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are "big" sites with just a few languages, yes. < 1434618302 338243 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shinh could do some visual and statistics update. < 1434618316 648730 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add disqus or something and it would be a very nice looking webpage :) < 1434618341 270544 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its getting late < 1434618355 458938 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ill stay up a bit more < 1434618387 214450 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in irc, Good bye < 1434618403 163496 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast < 1434618483 735403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i think anyone who makes a site like shinh has already decided to disagree with you hth < 1434618509 195214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. no styling at all that i can see) < 1434618581 286183 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some styling < 1434618586 401539 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434618598 995170 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has a css < 1434618602 654557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1434618636 495450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/site.css < 1434618638 275235 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434618669 135125 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434618679 531568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stack exchange allows any language, but it doesn't actually verify anything automatically < 1434618724 276756 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and the SE site-mechanics aren't really any good for golfing. < 1434618726 214396 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just implicitly understood that either you use a well-known language with free implementations available, or you explain how your code works in-depth < 1434618733 497840 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, I agree with that < 1434618734 487502 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no verification, no size-measurement < 1434618751 127015 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a regular "forum board" where people post code < 1434618757 812233 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it completely sucks for golfing imo. < 1434618780 462262 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not even a well defined scoring system < 1434618788 709304 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than up/down votes afaik < 1434618803 382786 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfing is about short programs, not up/down votes < 1434618808 514586 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there is < 1434618817 142064 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :questions tagged as code-golf is about shortest program < 1434618832 591428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a userscript to sort by shortest size < 1434618843 546043 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I agree that the platform isn't a good fit for the job < 1434618851 407395 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still. It's not a good platform for the job :) < 1434618886 71013 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I don't really like it. < 1434618950 724076 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about "programming puzzles and code golf", and the one hard rule is essentially that all questions need an objective winning criterion < 1434618976 72701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the criterion is votes, they call that a popularity contest < 1434618990 81646 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, some people dislike those questions a lot, and there aren't too many of them < 1434618992 290210 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even like SE comment system < 1434619009 370897 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tree structure :) < 1434619024 126103 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1434619032 936154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure, and that's not even the biggest problem < 1434619046 620062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the comments are not searchable, and they're deliberately hard to use < 1434619057 835593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're deliberately trying to limit comments to put content elsewhere < 1434619066 44906 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/35569/tweetable-mathematical-art is one of the popularity-contest puzzles I like (just to give an example of something that isn't code-golf but still enjoyable) < 1434619080 69767 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is more demoscene-esque, I guess < 1434619093 540510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mwforum.org/ <- so far one of the best forum software I've ever seen. < 1434619142 318963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1434619248 471621 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mwforum.org/doc/Readme.html#features < 1434619376 154569 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the british secret services have a website? < 1434619379 983589 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.sis.gov.uk/ < 1434619416 958774 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a stilish blurry jpg picture as their background < 1434619452 259574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put a hypnotoad animated gif as a background < 1434619472 60063 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very british, is it? < 1434619559 806958 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares? < 1434619925 810248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10moved [[02Damarok10]] to [[Darmok]]: You have got to be fucking kidding me. < 1434620001 40682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43220&oldid=43219 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+4) 10Sheesh < 1434620232 797119 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434620260 24889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? øvrigt < 1434620260 692255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øvrigt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434620349 290488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434620439 22204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<pikhq> What's next, no ehird? <-- erm if you've been noticing lately... < 1434620467 563788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? øl < 1434620468 225089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434620484 4896 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? øob < 1434620484 646475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øob? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434620507 900779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn øl/Øl, øl og mere øl. < 1434620510 484234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «øl» < 1434620556 479342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for øob, i've got nothing. < 1434620591 142410 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a nonsensical pun on ÖoB, or "överskottsbolaget" < 1434620608 74099 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since we were doing ø's, well < 1434620617 460575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :øk < 1434620620 397690 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm øut of ideas < 1434620637 93330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :øka takten sista kvarten < 1434620695 222367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, stupid dns of the internal network doesn't work again < 1434620706 655200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1434620741 562986 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't ideä be the proper spelling of "idea", going by the diaeresis-avoids-diphtong rule in english? < 1434620926 663346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1434620927 820387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1434620971 318554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, it's not actually _english_ diphthongs you avoid, but latin ones hth < 1434620987 266419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe) < 1434620996 597662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg cat wisdom/haskell < 1434621002 536647 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: unknown command 'cat wisdom/haskell' \ Mercurial Distributed SCM \ \ basic commands: \ \ add add the specified files on the next commit \ annotate show changeset information by line for each file \ clone make a copy of an existing repository \ commit commit the specified files or all outstanding changes \ diff < 1434621002 712632 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1434621016 994115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``hg cat 'wisdom/haskell' < 1434621018 218720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `hg: not found < 1434621022 699210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat 'wisdom/haskell' < 1434621023 527779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1434621036 227838 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? häskëll < 1434621036 908708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :häskëll? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434621063 719041 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ö* < 1434621064 620035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*ö*: No such file or directory < 1434621068 699393 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1434621082 292299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ø* < 1434621083 59391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/døsthiswork \ wisdom/døsthiswørk \ wisdom/ø \ wisdom/øl \ wisdom/ørjan < 1434621093 435653 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1434621094 208842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1434621112 449621 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the sea level rises < 1434621523 168249 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434621563 477742 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. < 1434621567 82433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ĥäŝkéll': ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. < 1434621613 854084 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ĥ is pronounced like esperanto ĥ) < 1434621672 287569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aĥa < 1434621679 446660 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same for ŝ.) < 1434621838 55627 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(χæʃkell would be the correct pronunciation) < 1434622118 528195 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434622338 658065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shächkell < 1434622353 307568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I mixed them up < 1434622379 473872 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the χ-like one is the ch < 1434622420 677620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode χ # as seen here < 1434622421 646364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+03C7 GREEK SMALL LETTER CHI \ UTF-8: cf 87 UTF-16BE: 03c7 Decimal: &#967; \ χ (Χ) \ Uppercase: U+03A7 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1434622486 752574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("shächkell" sounds like some sort of a shachaf-promulgated Haskell fork.) < 1434622494 810875 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoyingly, "chi" is /ʃi/, isn't it? < 1434622535 228858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in swedish I think.. < 1434622557 276780 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's /kaɪ/ in english, huh < 1434622572 256008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't have expected *that*. < 1434622624 662695 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I try to begin it with the same consonant as loch < 1434622647 461948 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the X-like is the ch, yes < 1434622669 283146 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the rough ch in german, or the regular ch in swiss german, we don't have the soft one) < 1434622671 917760 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the name "chi" (for the letter)? Interesting < 1434622676 702796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434622709 398625 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :swiss german speakers have some advantage when learning other languages :) < 1434622718 90721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know about this email thing, but I'm not surprised it might have broken. < 1434622721 918095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn_append < 1434622725 132003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't even remember how it worked. < 1434622725 818490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//') \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1434622728 337723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, in that they live in a country with three other languages? < 1434622729 991829 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have three different r-sounds, two different ch-sounds < 1434622735 742900 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of nasal, non-nasal sounds < 1434622736 827253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh fizzie is alive < 1434622740 810560 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like nasal o, non-nasal o < 1434622758 74351 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :voiceless, non-voiceless sounds < 1434622761 234407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you know anything about HackEgo's `revert breakage? < 1434622769 259288 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and a lot of dialects, yes. < 1434622824 501866 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we know the difference between ʒ and ʃ etc. < 1434622837 369558 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas I can speak: English. A little French and Italian. < 1434622840 644975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although english also has distinctions between voiceless and non-voiceless < 1434622846 724295 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like rice, rise < 1434622848 69233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not much of either) < 1434622873 465509 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does english have d͡ʒ? < 1434622884 454344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know anything about that either. I will try to have a look at both things this evening, if I manage. < 1434622903 492090 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :t͡ʃ < 1434622919 940815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1434622925 347384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :t͡ʃ is the ch in chin < 1434622952 540909 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I do not know IPA very well but is that the consonant in edge? < 1434622967 935196 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: isn't that the j in jungle? < 1434622981 446442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i suspect one of the bugs might be as easy as doing a 'rm -r canary.orig' in the right place. < 1434622996 925384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :edge is ɛdʒ < 1434623017 241079 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434623018 147531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the older thing where it sometimes doesn't pick up changes, well... < 1434623019 313147 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one < 1434623022 513074 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :edge, or jungle < 1434623119 196443 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that one is pretty common in english < 1434623226 773757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> `` sed -i 's/a /an overt /' wisdom/real <-- what was that for? < 1434623233 772098 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434623238 847700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1434623246 941471 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :workplace.stackexchange is weird < 1434623261 234345 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :buongiornoily < 1434623444 187323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sex < 1434623451 412553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published by Taneb in 1932, based on Taneb's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434623463 72687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/s/S/' wisdom/sex < 1434623464 637416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434623505 196526 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is all the same, I would rather sex not be a tanebvention < 1434623524 132792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does seem a little out of character. < 1434623588 562860 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434623590 98442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanea/Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1434623595 450587 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1434623600 697256 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434623601 688127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whom/See: who < 1434623606 89855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortresr < 1434623623 970397 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ "fortresr" < 1434623625 411261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Enum [Char]) arising from a use of ‘succ’ < 1434623625 587058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: succ "fortresr" < 1434623643 600233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no instance for Enum a => Enum [a] < 1434623654 438623 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "fortresr" & _last %~ succ < 1434623656 94498 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "fortress" < 1434623757 944072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434623759 686849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sex': Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434623809 112351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Why am I still here < 1434623831 795812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1434623832 403400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1434624751 362104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! Tanelle? < 1434624800 131675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you thanking oerjan for quitting? < 1434624864 665172 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's early in the morning. I'm not exactly cohérent yet. < 1434624888 855966 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I couldn't even hellørjan you properly. < 1434624889 31663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434624899 291291 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hellolsner. < 1434624908 250458 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, for changing the wisdom < 1434624947 65340 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sort of relieved sex was not actually a tanebvention < 1434625040 961637 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still trying to Italian porthello Taneb. it's not easy. < 1434625092 808777 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were it night-time, buonanottaneb? < 1434625118 539527 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, if this were the case. < 1434625152 170067 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebuongiorno, perhaps? < 1434625254 920560 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1434625267 242041 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1434627321 339729 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for now, good tanebye! < 1434627325 308397 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SYCAMORE CHICKEN < 1434627521 200589 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434628193 663566 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434628215 948832 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434628963 465065 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kingofthenerdz3 5* 10New user account < 1434629470 238241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did you make sense of my nats yesterday? < 1434631444 85597 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434632098 574975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you eat Sex? < 1434632103 879585 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'm not interested. < 1434632669 691043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1434632845 659810 :APic!apic@apic.name NICK :APic\splat < 1434634683 181564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Crave 5* 10New user account < 1434634740 655797 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nat < 1434634773 422943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434634785 773788 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434634823 722042 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434634946 157245 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434635477 849960 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches for an address. google tells him it's in another city. < 1434635504 587213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434635558 287543 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yahoo has the right one < 1434635674 729789 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1434635684 657913 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1434635731 557775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1434635766 519949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1434635803 548288 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434635954 653399 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434635988 605601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DNA-Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43221&oldid=41157 5* 03Crave 5* (+92) 10Added := alternative to = to remove ambiguity < 1434636010 485601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434636074 485903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1434636119 736024 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434636127 803185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaah my connection is not doing well < 1434636244 742339 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1434636280 500283 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop DDoSing Taneb. < 1434636296 527570 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434636332 522762 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1434636389 325102 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434636509 678984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DNA-Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43222&oldid=33277 5* 03Crave 5* (+400) 10 < 1434636538 347653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Did you mean Nat? < 1434636685 802027 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434636732 641660 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, https://gist.github.com/Taneb/f2021eab65ba59aa3693 < 1434636804 538521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without looking I'm guessing it's some weird Haskell code with coerce and pure < 1434636822 94255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang. < 1434636848 366423 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even one? < 1434636870 327817 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is weird Haskell code < 1434636882 237180 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's sensible weird Haskell code < 1434636883 459871 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not weird enough. < 1434636894 919442 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mroman < 1434636895 674190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :768) <mroman> You can't quote me. \ 1139) <mroman_> Bike: I refuse to believe in bottom <Bike> ass is an urban legend \ 1218) <mroman_> Rule of thumb is that if I can understand it you're not using enough fancy stuff \ 1221) <mroman_> piece of cake doing this stuff in Burlesque :P [19 lines later] <mroman_> I hate Burlesque :( < 1434636906 682664 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not using enough fancy stuff. < 1434636929 219258 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I can't really understand what I am doing < 1434636975 282185 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1434636981 766547 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434637230 948322 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I think it's possible to make quotRem even more efficient with a fair amount of number theory < 1434637236 690799 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am not very good at number theory < 1434637353 536786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this implementation of natural numbers could work quite well in some flavours of graph programming < 1434637792 54698 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough about number theory < 1434638276 346738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the reals are overt hth < 1434638491 440055 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Nat < 1434638492 144724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434638496 151263 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Tanebventions < 1434638497 12453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1434638686 292836 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long division shouldn't be too difficult there < 1434638749 858751 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It requires only (+), (-), and (<=).) < 1434638764 90195 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434639065 615310 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434639073 837734 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, the code didn't look like long division at first) < 1434639398 418010 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A problem with division is that the result can be exponentially larger than the inputs, eg. (2^(2n+1) + 1)/3 < 1434639456 440517 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434639561 777670 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434639597 220414 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434639674 893583 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :batman < 1434639684 238148 :batman!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1434639709 683288 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434640185 884351 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1434640261 196621 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434640994 587072 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae JOIN :#esoteric < 1434641071 579042 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434641319 399764 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434641452 582698 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434641538 922372 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Client Quit < 1434642149 672308 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434642334 324694 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434644307 502196 :password2!~password@197.77.34.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434644675 993183 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bxelxtaiyqjkjecy QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434645021 53506 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1434645039 624624 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434645253 301185 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1434645253 516141 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1434645253 516199 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-njtygabotypzsnfm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434645254 193781 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-njtygabotypzsnfm QUIT :Excess Flood < 1434645887 745559 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe JOIN :#esoteric < 1434645998 451680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434646069 346107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1434646069 531388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 53m 1s ago: AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I couldn't even hellørjan you properly. < 1434646098 977592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? resume < 1434646102 317288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a resume is something that you use in order to end a pause in employment < 1434646118 34373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A resume is something that you use in order to end a pause in employment. < 1434646130 396638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'resume': A resume is something that you use in order to end a pause in employment. < 1434646172 974358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: overtness is a concept dual to compactness and you have been using it all your life hth < 1434646188 649311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION currently resisting urge to proofread all of wisdom for punctuation and capitalization < 1434646223 234813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` egrep -rl '^[a-z]' wisdom | sed 's#wisdom/##' < 1434646224 127005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga \ drone \ cpressey \ lambdabot \ ant \ indentity function \ mroman_ \ guestbot \ burma \ bird \ oren \ fomething \ mojibake \ otp \ gaspasjo \ qdbformat \ impomatic \ ø \ mauke \ hovercraft \ bookwatching \ forty \ epsilon \ å \ ehird \ categorical product \ metasepia \ lystrosaurus \ cyberdrone \ php \ hipchat \ copumpkin \ ĥäŝkéll \ f < 1434646242 391016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As I already stated, all spaces are overt in classical topology." < 1434646245 862877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gaspasjo the actual norwegian spelling? < 1434646251 123120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I SAID RESISTING < 1434646273 544560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` egrep -rl '^[a-z]' wisdom | sed 's#wisdom/##' | wc -l < 1434646275 350462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :179 < 1434646302 538990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably gaspatsjo if we bothered to respell it < 1434646306 987332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.andrej.com/2012/10/03/am-i-a-constructive-mathematician/ < 1434646313 367107 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspasjo < 1434646314 37459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspasjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days < 1434646346 705531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gaspasjo" is the norwegian spelling of gaspasjo hth < 1434646356 456545 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434646360 4709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspatsjo < 1434646360 697123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspatsjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days < 1434646375 569849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently both are in wisdom... < 1434646387 743687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well norwegian can be complicated < 1434646409 179514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the wisdom/ repository shows up on the first google hit page for "gaspatsjo" (with quotes), which is not reassuring < 1434646447 527255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gaspasjo" has slightly more hits (67 est.) < 1434646490 173309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the hits are actual norwegian, but i take it it's not a word that's used enough for spelling to be localized < 1434646519 584357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't it have two spellings? < 1434646639 769699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i heard that your country tried to invent poutine, but you had neither curds nor whey < 1434646642 334363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1434646648 258422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: plausible < 1434646670 532708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually the latter is false i think, whey is what brunost is made of < 1434646699 913086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but that ruins the pun tdnh < 1434646717 987763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok i didn't notice the pun anyway < 1434646730 437797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still don't) < 1434646794 771237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just the last two words hth < 1434646801 743979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well sure, but gaspatsjo would be the way to spell it maximally close to the spanish pronunciation < 1434646834 575581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm "oh whey" puns are synchronistic for me today < 1434646836 924212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434646847 924670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1434646860 30223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally got the pun < 1434646921 891382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, i saw one earlier, and then thought of it again when i passed by the protein pulver section of the grocery shop (seems to be all the whey) < 1434647037 107599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 1900, norwegian developed some rather consistent rules for how to nationalize spelling of french and latin words. too bad english won. < 1434647407 642110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: English won temporarily at least. It was latin for a while, then german, then russian, (with french going somewhat in parallel with the German and Russian) now English. Chinese might be the next, or not, it's hard to read the future. < 1434647652 792246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the norwegian point of view, it was never that much russian hth :) < 1434647669 255392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1434647723 242268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: russian won on this side of the Berlin wall, german and french and english on the other side, and the iron wall has led to a LOT of duplicated scientific research when people didn't know about existing results on the other side of the wall < 1434647744 981625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a little of that problem still remains, at least in some areas < 1434647756 968883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many cooks, levin < 1434647813 283896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's hard to be sure that's what's happened in any one case, because there are always duplicate results and difficult to find results even without the iron curtain < 1434647828 159439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and triplicate results, which you clearly can't blame on JUST the iron curtain) < 1434647843 774862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is the general impression I have < 1434647849 451045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434648450 14197 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Quit: Toodaloo < 1434648554 13438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily shellocking < 1434648554 228247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434648637 781524 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434649164 269935 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434649219 610058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1434650669 585278 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :immutable brainfuck < 1434650758 895221 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1434650992 731211 :quietella!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434651118 654560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-generating-magic-cards-using-deep-recurrent-neural < 1434651964 577344 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434652079 531649 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been quadruple results on the same side of the iron curtain < 1434652277 785979 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner–Fischer_algorithm) < 1434652878 534599 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434653095 188531 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434653127 153579 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434653191 706695 :password2!~password@197.77.34.40 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434654561 475458 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434654635 47203 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434654913 482506 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434655327 824542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434655328 630111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal/Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea. < 1434655338 840672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/vorpal < 1434655340 115686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1434655347 222781 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434655419 291455 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434655909 797178 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434657066 882497 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434657067 877642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia/quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. < 1434657083 145560 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1434657083 840445 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr < 1434657092 718597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434657093 609396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thyme/Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1434657097 297519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434657098 64356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton/A funciton is the number of burgers to eat when I get one. < 1434657130 880212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious lunchthyme < 1434657134 524064 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with a fukcton < 1434657144 163974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: did you get stuck in snakebird twh < 1434657177 305258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes until I got stuck in a car travelling 700km south tdnh < 1434657198 945662 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you meant stuck stuck < 1434657214 547242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 700km < 1434657217 214672 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, on level 10 or so :( < 1434657219 926928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said 700km/h < 1434657225 181798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be more exciting < 1434657235 799413 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434657254 608957 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, although Koenigsegg did something crazy recently < 1434657269 778021 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-300km/h-0 in 18 seconds < 1434657287 563827 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's p. fast < 1434657287 903532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the fact that distances and speeds are measured in miles and miles/h here < 1434657297 212236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1434657312 462627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extra confusing part is that i only learned about distances and speeds after i moved here < 1434657317 847879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think in celsius but also in miles tdnh < 1434657331 727907 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tend to measure distance in mil here (1 mil = 10 km) < 1434657343 370277 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to add to the confusion < 1434657382 742018 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434657388 458196 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to hysterical raisins) < 1434657449 824160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no good name for miles per hour anyway < 1434657457 569085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hebrew km/h is called "kamash" which is a good name < 1434657458 466251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mile is like phi km < 1434657464 437219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew acronyms are too good < 1434657473 749047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can convert with fibonacci numbers < 1434657482 611221 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1434657484 747435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's p. handy < 1434657521 133747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434657521 982251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn/le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1434657523 594880 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda a shame there aren't more roads in the US signed metric. < 1434657549 878901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what else is scow? < 1434657552 371548 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :signed metric? < 1434657558 841942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :measuring gasoline consumption in miles per gallon < 1434657569 780072 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/WINDOWS/CP932.TXT < 1434657570 274021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: presumably "has signs that use metric measurements" < 1434657572 785013 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1434657574 975979 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metric_Interstate_19_cropped.jpg < 1434657576 462723 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1434657604 598672 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that makes more sense than two's complement signs < 1434657679 921262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The really confusing thing is probably the parts of the country with weird mixes. < 1434657684 734612 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so, using metric units? < 1434657698 746484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hh < 1434657700 742373 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh* < 1434657701 74389 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, apparently Puerto Rico uses metric units for mile markers and distances, but imperial for speed limits. < 1434657722 778402 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems confusing, yes < 1434657728 437188 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And liters for gasoline. < 1434657752 159297 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might be the only place that would like to know miles per liter. < 1434657819 913919 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For extra fun (though nobody to my knowledge does this), apparently a car may have its spedometer and odometer in metric only. < 1434658013 577227 :quietella!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Quit: quietella < 1434658149 118749 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's legal in the USA < 1434658277 747175 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: or do they use liter per 100 miles? < 1434658381 351053 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-98-247-136-171.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434658627 458783 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That's what I was saying. It is explicitly legal. < 1434658659 698834 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: meant to say Canada < 1434658663 767627 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1434658668 851880 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Dunno. < 1434658721 865613 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434658784 789241 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434658844 888587 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/sex < 1434658845 637522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434658864 149187 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/sex < 1434658865 828321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan tswett < 1434658904 33333 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e "s/extensive/the author's extensive/" wisdom/sex < 1434658905 729016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434658907 930650 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sex < 1434658908 767723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on the author's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1434659057 86157 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434659268 370852 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Quit: quietello < 1434659287 755511 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434659428 591690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! spam in Serbian again < 1434659435 151482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really get spam in so many different languages < 1434659463 621663 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yarchive.net/comp/polyglot.html < 1434659493 711319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean sure, the spammers won't know what language to write me, and I won't tell them, so it's not surprising, but it's changed in these last five years < 1434659503 49660 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the old days all the spam was English or Chinese only < 1434659587 715711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, each spam in one specific language, not one spam that works in many languages. or maybe there are spams in many language but I don't execute their fancy javascript that makes that work. < 1434659783 517208 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434660830 426049 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1434660836 700677 :lawspeaker!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1434660960 166388 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434661161 38418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661164 267679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi/myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1434661172 672201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661173 486961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy/The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1434661177 712700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661178 578583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausiblee/A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action. < 1434661183 844501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661184 692152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon/Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1434661229 69365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1434661229 775002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1434661265 915095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661267 414166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procrastination/The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this last funny cat clip on youtube. < 1434661272 796012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661273 575599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway/Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden. It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. < 1434661280 742501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434661281 561711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ rdococlikestomakelanguageslikethis/rdococ RDOCOCLIKESTOMAKELANGUAGESLIKETHIS < 1434661288 487580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/norway < 1434661290 363399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434661304 484841 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1434661449 294719 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434661823 975889 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back from a very long interview < 1434661868 596806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: good, what was it like, and which side were you? < 1434661961 812247 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being interviewed, and I talked to three engineers, two Directors, and the CTO. They asked me to solve all kinds of programming problems < 1434662008 385275 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including "reverse the words in a string, in place, without reversing the letters" < 1434662057 130198 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. That's actually a slightly tricky version of that. < 1434662078 911576 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The directors and the CTO wer talking to me by google hangouts < 1434662102 682771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ok < 1434662128 890022 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll tell you my solution: reverse the whole string, then find each word and reverse it < 1434662139 649183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON < 1434662142 752084 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! I like it. < 1434662143 329089 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(N) < 1434662160 82037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I thought too < 1434662212 170698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another alternative is to just do both at the same time < 1434662228 814163 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was initially thinking of trying to swap words in place, but that's probably a non-starter. < 1434662234 831490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have to reverse each delimiter between the words as well < 1434662257 59003 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initially tried doing that, but it ended up being O(N^3) < 1434662260 946671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, two pass is probably the easiest < 1434662290 871672 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe O(N^2), at least two loop levels anyway < 1434662301 408612 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be possible to get it faster (by a constant factor) with some temporary storage. < 1434662334 863421 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think that's your best approach overall. < 1434662392 415486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much money do you want to create a proxy server that accesses Wikipedia and then returns it in plaintext (with http:// and not https://)? < 1434662408 410916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And it has to be public) < 1434662430 572309 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer writing a high-quality and simple SSL lib. < 1434662453 853528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not going to host public proxies like that, no. < 1434662461 913242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even read-only ones < 1434662479 404478 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to implement SSL faster if you're only doing it because the other side is? < 1434662484 708705 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why is the api not accessible in http still? < 1434662489 396821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if https is the default < 1434662495 469841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, they refuse to fix it < 1434662498 997806 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Not if you are trying to be reasonable. < 1434662514 333452 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You can implement SSL without ciphers, but no server *should* be doing it. < 1434662514 764527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even writing plain HTTP requests on port 443 fails with a 400 error. < 1434662517 845613 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOW simplify the SSL at the cost of your own security < 1434662518 51849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I mean, for just reading, you don't even have to send login cookies < 1434662529 427728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well sure, they're on port 80 probably < 1434662540 267509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on the same port < 1434662545 916349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I send a request on port 80 it tries to redirect to HTTPS < 1434662552 755608 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: The funny thing is, you can simplify SSL better at the cost of not working with insecurity. :) < 1434662561 314904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let me test this < 1434662568 403186 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1434662569 87552 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The secure cipher suites are frankly not that complicated. < 1434662581 793949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you wanted to edit or do other things that require a login, maybe < 1434662586 194107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for just reading < 1434662589 526246 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenSSL is punishing itself by being very poorly designed. < 1434662594 818067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434662595 718951 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland/<Phantom_Hoover> it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes < 1434662608 507646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434662609 390413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ant/ants are animals too hth < 1434662613 242614 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want insecure connection even for writing though. < 1434662623 514134 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dealing with some crazy, crazy OSes. < 1434662639 789155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I would prefer digest authentication and PUT rather than using forms and cookies. < 1434662644 605343 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who gives a shit about OpenVMS's bizarre problems with argv? Fix your damned compiler!) < 1434662650 308622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, indeed it seems to redirect to https by default < 1434662665 204067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see if there's some easy way to override that < 1434662677 232174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter what header I add I cannot turn that off; I tried. < 1434662689 267291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, I'd just like to see it for myself still < 1434662705 50519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434662769 44354 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434663017 316470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really want security, you should be using keys agreed in person, where the client requires the key too as well as the server, and the key consist of a number displayed on a security card with constantly changing numbers, and the user's password, combined together. And you have to avoid HTML and CSS, and require a command-line interface with ANSI-stripping. < 1434663071 239723 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really want security, just phyiscially isolate the data < 1434663140 497903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to avoid root certificates too, since that can be tampered with. < 1434663146 630740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an armed courier carry the data on an sd card. < 1434663218 362511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a DVD encrypted with a one-time-pad < 1434663336 945157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't only data security though; there is also software security issue. That's why you have to avoid HTML. If you have a color display, make the interactive terminal session with the server in a different color than the operating system's command-line, and use ANSI-stripping to force it. < 1434663464 327575 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1434663484 219071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: apparently they deliberately made HTTPS mandatory for accessing, with no way to force HTTP < 1434663492 306731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS claism so < 1434663506 904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and they won't fix it < 1434663597 289527 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434663621 487398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means it's not just a matter of choosing the right hostname or some other trivial option to revert to http explicitly < 1434663641 67149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'll probably have to use it with https < 1434663655 874536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1434663677 405952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, a proxy is possible, and you could run one, but I definitely won't run a _public_ one < 1434663722 818884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you get paid one million dollars? < 1434663736 13769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or the equivalent for the currency wherever you are) < 1434663758 208061 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I'd investigate further if there was a serious offer for that. one million dollars for running the proxy for how long? I can't guarantee such a thing indefinitely < 1434663793 928613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For as long as Wikipedia forces HTTPS < 1434663814 330612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely can't do that _alone_. I might die before that ends. < 1434663840 346246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not good at setting up companies, that's not really my task < 1434663945 891292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is silly, the reasons they give for no opt-out are silly, they cover only some mechanisms for opt-out, but not all reasonable mechanisms < 1434664145 326459 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434664272 157802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how plain HTTP connections on port 443 would be much problem for them, even if plain HTTP connections on port 80 can be a problem. A different set of cookies can be used too (since you can specify which cookies are for secure connections only) < 1434664654 52616 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434664664 750479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1434664665 210731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 182100Z 17007KT 160V240 30SM SCT050TCU BKN150 BKN240 27/18 A2978 RMK TCU4AC1CI1 SLP085 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1434664705 895303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSL < 1434664706 190083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSL 182150Z 01002KT 9999 -SHRA FEW007CB SCT021 BKN035 11/11 Q1002 < 1434664823 965013 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. quite humid? < 1434664830 681178 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434664830 856899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 4h 31m 17s ago: shellocking < 1434665523 253246 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434665526 975071 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434665747 906409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think it's raining < 1434665776 670868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have gotten the metar of somewhere else entirely though < 1434666238 633054 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all metars are somewhere else. it's just that some are more elsewhere than others. < 1434666840 153400 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now just has to wait for an offer letter. < 1434666916 787597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just"? < 1434666925 465722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there nothing more beyond that? < 1434666948 266531 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there *is*. I need to talk with relocation team to discuss relocation options, I need to move, so on. < 1434666978 236484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should ask them for more money hth < 1434666982 525354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least i should have done that < 1434667016 695647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you're past all that nonsense < 1434667711 912101 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434667794 893674 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434667993 839278 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668006 832227 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23164 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23236 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23256 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23272 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23289 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434668007 23309 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434668599 34782 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668644 883766 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70126 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70171 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70187 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70200 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70213 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434668645 70226 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434669058 191051 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434669175 808927 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434669991 646970 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434670011 978850 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1434670536 240308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellllllllo < 1434670612 761584 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqquinthellopia. < 1434670628 993588 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how does one go about pronouncing 'qqqqqqqqqqq'?) < 1434670653 210967 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haldo. < 1434670660 71002 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haldotopia! < 1434671017 743590 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup the boily and the pikhq < 1434671028 198653 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what excitements did i miss < 1434671048 143929 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma movin' to California. < 1434671049 419003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw boily wolves did win < 1434671055 368962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i e < 1434671065 206919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you already have a job < 1434671085 587491 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google hired me. < 1434671088 353732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're unbalancing the chännel hth < 1434671092 835421 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: woot! < 1434671107 93427 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hah. < 1434671161 351668 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google told me to write more java. I said I'm not that desperate yet :< < 1434671176 450308 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said anything about Java? < 1434671201 936460 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fellowl. Java is fine. < 1434671222 852872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the MIME type for "ASCII record format"? < 1434671239 105379 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure #esoteric loves java, wouldn't surprise me < 1434671246 809873 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a plug at google. maybe theyd hire me this time < 1434671247 895967 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. record, as with GS/RS/US/FS? < 1434671253 356131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes < 1434671270 144199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the very least they may give me another free trip to cali < 1434671272 127537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I wouldn't think so, but it'd be quite useful. < 1434671280 814957 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps x-vendor/x-record? < 1434671282 267722 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: text/plain? < 1434671311 336965 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: pikhelloq, before I forget I hadn't porhelloed you. < 1434671313 951211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It isn't really plain text though, it is split into records and stuff like that < 1434671323 194535 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe text/vnd.ascii < 1434671351 852379 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :text/vnd.ascii-record? < 1434671360 229593 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ASCII, but it's... more than ASCII, kwim? < 1434671376 324022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is ASCII, but it isn't plain text. < 1434671382 744329 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's 100% ASCII it's just using ASCII control characters that aren't used much. < 1434671394 811160 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's using ASCII for the purpose of storing records. < 1434671400 804402 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :text/swamp? text/forest? < 1434671420 388713 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSV would be the more "standard" way of doing this, mind you. < 1434671438 898283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like CSV though < 1434671470 298342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it fails if the data contains line breaks and so on; ASCII records format is probably going to be simpler < 1434671485 662740 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSV can represent that if you implement it correctly. < 1434671496 550680 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yeah, CSV does kinda suck. < 1434671567 614773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I thought, "vnd." means vendor specific and it isn't really vendor-specific but maybe "text/x-ascii" should be used I don't know < 1434671574 418014 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more obvious means of representing records in ASCII is, of course, using unit seperator (U+001F) and record seperator (U+001E), with escape (U+001B) to escape instances of those bytes in the record. < 1434671592 210476 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as well as itself, of course) < 1434671775 379203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use DLE to escape instances of those in the data rather than ESC, I think < 1434671944 864745 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DLE? < 1434672042 262388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DLE = Data Link Escape; Cause the following octets to be interpreted as raw data, not as control codes or graphic characters. Returning to normal usage would be implementation dependent. < 1434672372 516142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon the government is going to use preloaded HSTS to spy on people. < 1434672499 553563 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, sure. < 1434672508 676623 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So DLE escapes the next octet. < 1434672529 658272 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the especially nice property that your control codes are essentially unused. < 1434672593 746173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, that's much of the reasoning too, that I have. < 1434672612 846116 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While ESC isn't used *much*, it at least is used *at all*. < 1434672872 343641 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow_ < 1434673009 586858 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434673940 801822 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1434674439 562839 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Kingofthenerdz314]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43223 5* 03Kingofthenerdz3 5* (+16) 10Created page with "Nothing for now." < 1434675145 282728 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1434675319 904045 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COPLANAR CHICKEN < 1434677450 323069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is OK designing project management system? http://sprunge.us/OZPW < 1434677508 126226 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the purpose of the dummy? < 1434677556 809958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To force SQLite to create a SHARED lock on the database. Normally, locks are deferred; you can create an immediate lock on the database but this is only for writing, not possible for reading. < 1434677569 166559 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh ok < 1434677589 187650 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about similar stuff for postgres < 1434677608 376861 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the combination of linear and nonlinear permissions seems strange < 1434677621 834340 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because the version permissions are in increments of 50 < 1434678287 980743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just in case other stuff needs to be added later on, although I could use bits instead I suppose < 1434679158 12356 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why use Julian dates rather than Unix timestamps? < 1434679368 253547 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the thing is 32 bits? < 1434681347 588297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: SQLite uses Julian dates normally, that's why < 1434681477 206191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434681649 647803 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434682272 463627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the duration of the sun minus the hyposinute multiplied by the square root of a circle without any area plus the meaning of life minus 31? < 1434684517 512476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a title of one Hero Heart puzzle I made. Other titles are "Painting the roses^Whearts red", "SUPERMAN IS DEAD Heartland!", "I do not like this word 'bomb'", "Let's throw grenades at each other!", "What Happens When You Have Too Much Money", "Generating solutions of Einstein's field equations by typing mistakes", "Oops! How are you supposed to play Hero Hearts if the hearts are upside-down?", etc. < 1434685172 375744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The puzzles themself are strange too; in one puzzle it is necessary to throw a grenade at an empty field, in another it is necessary to throw a grenade into the water (resulting in a message "That was a waste of a good grenade! Who taught you how to throw a grenade?"), in another level it is necessary to hit a heart with a missile (resulting in a message "Now that you have so smartly blown up that heart, it is impossible to solve this level. Sorry!" < 1434685310 640453 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434685325 168553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The messages themself are important in this case; if the rules of the game were modified to supporess these messages then the level would be impossible to solve. < 1434685361 715561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you do Magic: the Gathering, we also have to do stuff even more strange than that! < 1434685461 370363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to make up any Magic: the Puzzling, please? < 1434685706 696140 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434687074 500472 :password2_!~password@197.77.34.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434687334 61026 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434688643 448588 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434688671 192911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ye Olde Alchemist14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43224 5* 03Kingofthenerdz3 5* (+1701) 10Created page with "Ye Olde Alchemist is a esolang by [[User:Kingofthenerdz3]].It is still an idea in development.Programs are are ancient alchemical recipes.It is influenced by Chef. ==How it ..." < 1434688723 579797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to disable HSTS in clients that support it other than editing the executable file to change the name of the header into one that isn't a header name it is actually capable of receiving? < 1434688750 298061 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Kingofthenerdz3 5* 10moved [[02Ye Olde Alchemist10]] to [[Esolang:Ye Olde Alchemist]] < 1434688772 373733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Kingofthenerdz3 5* 10moved [[02Esolang:Ye Olde Alchemist10]] to [[Ye Olde Alchemist]] over redirect < 1434688791 721628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several problems with HSTS, including privacy issues. < 1434688918 207357 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:61ff:e8a4:2067:1afc JOIN :#esoteric < 1434689865 501227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, any more detail? < 1434689900 827022 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I get the point about the privacy issue I think < 1434689926 543253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can make arbitrary domains that you set HSTS or not on and that stores a bit per domain, right? < 1434689934 21409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is a part of it < 1434689970 627383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also use the expiry times to do stuff < 1434690008 906974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also prevents you from manually overriding, from defining your own proxies that would intercept it, and other problems < 1434690019 781282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS is just a bad design in general. < 1434691395 560135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people know neither good security nor good software design. Some hotels have elevators that you need a keycard, in order to prevent thieves from coming in, but the actual effect is the opposite; they can come in just fine if someone else is in, or use the stairs, or steal someone's keycard and find their room much more easily than if the elevator did not require a keycard. < 1434691606 902662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web-browser software is also, just way too complicated to be any good. < 1434692530 265076 :password2_!~password@197.77.34.40 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434692588 509645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: agreed, DLE (= control-P) makes more sense to escape the next char, it's already used as such in some cases < 1434692592 914637 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434692646 976081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes I know that some programs use that already < 1434693997 968752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think locally installed certificates can override HSTS < 1434694033 917033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, at least Chrome lets you delete HSTS entries < 1434694051 320697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that, but it says you can't delete preloaded entries < 1434694120 268740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :At work tomorrow I might try intercepting Google with Charles and see what happens < 1434694127 64889 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434694127 268730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have Charles on this machine < 1434694142 488898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also can't disable it, either for certain domains or for everything. Better would be in a kind of about:config stuff you can specify the default HSTS mode (force on, force off, use headers, try insecure), and for each domain you can also define the HSTS modes. < 1434694168 773980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but the problem here is not the HSTS, it's that the https is enforced on server side < 1434694193 308342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, in a sane world, sure < 1434694194 997125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with apparently no specific way to overrid it < 1434694195 652279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for Wikipedia and other things there is that too, but HSTS can still cause problems too whether or not that is the case. < 1434694208 109053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, it might cause problems in other cases < 1434694246 440050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so I understand why you say it's bad design, but why can't you still access wikipedia with https? < 1434694264 726756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can, sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't work though. < 1434694273 427110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434694281 943165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you'd say something more specific < 1434694308 960757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for servers that only work on HTTPS, the HSTS can still stop certain other things you might want to do for debugging or anything else, from working too. < 1434694363 611353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the forced HTTPS prevents me from doing packet inspection or connecting from a client that doesn't use HTTPS. < 1434694388 756319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you use a local (private) proxy then? < 1434694459 360112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how to configure Mozilla to use plain HTTP on a proxy when https:// is specified. < 1434694487 673051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But another reason I cannot use a local proxy is due to the mixed up clock; even if I try to fix it, it gets mixed up. < 1434694523 88730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see https, but what's "mixed up clock"? < 1434694523 569323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my computer isn't particularly powerful enough either. < 1434694555 938330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the RTC in my computer seems to run too slowly. < 1434694557 712008 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needn't be on exactly the same computer, it could be on another computer on the lan with fast connection between the two < 1434694583 995147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, but how is the clock a problem here? < 1434694607 348773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know if the clock is a problem. But I thought it might be. < 1434694616 734664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1434694664 253204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my rtc clock usually runs a bit too fast, but it's not really a problem because I can correct it to enough precision by syncing to a time server on the internet < 1434694753 97490 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434694764 74708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several clocks, and synchronize them with the Weather Channel when they need to be set. I set the portable analog clock from the TV, the digital clock in my bedroom from the analog clock, and the computer from the digital clock. < 1434694806 921864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more a problem at the company, where the servers have the clocks going horribly wrong, sometimes several minutes off, and I don't have the authority to set their clocks to sync < 1434694839 781064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to sync to the radio in old times, but these days I sync to the internet < 1434694863 132003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then sync other clocks to the computer synced to the internet) < 1434694876 631586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes two levels deep) < 1434694886 676856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is a time signal on CBC radio, but I have no computer hardware to connect to radio or software to decode the time signal. < 1434694930 106282 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't decode by hardware, I just pressed enter at the beep or something < 1434694975 251996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is another way yes, slightly less precise but probably still good enough < 1434695000 712566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :syncing to television doesn't sound like a good idea, because it sometimes has a second or two of delay, probably because it goes through satellite links < 1434695016 632026 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I trust radio more < 1434695047 231571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although the radio doesn't have the time signal all the time < 1434695056 747067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434695062 970837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has it at predictable times < 1434695072 510701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there is that, at least. < 1434695153 453706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also with television, the delay will be more with digital television than with analog, even. (I have both digital and analog, in different rooms. I tend to use the analog more, but other people in here mostly use the digital television.) < 1434695218 914821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a second of delay in analog, though probably some intermediate link was already digital < 1434695256 141453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps the time signal doesn't have that, only some programs that have to show live image < 1434695327 132263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have analog television anymore. analog tv on radio waves has been discontinued a few years ago, and I don't think any of the cable ones are analog still. < 1434695355 219354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the satelite-based receivers are probably digital too < 1434695396 194957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434695423 78165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A problem with a digital cable box is that you have to use their software and remote control (or a remote control with the same codes, but you can't add your own functions or remove existing functions). Also makes it difficult to use with a VCR. < 1434695584 201842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skips the logs hth < 1434696020 411604 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434699563 358796 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1434701708 485950 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434702375 814449 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434704015 137480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ^ < 1434704033 349105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, hackego? < 1434704037 3646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434704057 68269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT < 1434704057 844221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434704066 80310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xor < 1434704066 878023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434704078 875818 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bit_xor < 1434704079 557768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit_xor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434704093 458018 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what are you trying to do < 1434704163 913838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: dunno, I just didn't understand why it didn't reply to `? ^ < 1434704175 791187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? ^ < 1434704176 283754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 0: command not found < 1434704182 303407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? \^ < 1434704185 505823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 0: command not found < 1434704190 847669 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an odd error < 1434704204 28767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1434704208 492693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? is a wildcard expansion < 1434704222 384147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first file it finds with a matching name is 0 < 1434704222 559711 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run \? \^ < 1434704224 99603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434704225 64231 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how shell works < 1434704231 531294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1434704235 437100 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know that < 1434704283 162749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` locale < 1434704283 755928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ < 1434704340 217289 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (LC_COLLATE=C; echo ?) < 1434704340 897079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1434704344 185039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (LC_COLLATE=C; echo *) < 1434704344 821338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 113500 :-( :-D Complaints MaFV Wierd a.o a.out bdsmreclist bin blah canary cat dc dog emoticons error.log etc factor faith fu head hello hello.c hi hours ibin index.html?dl=1812 interps le lib paste pref prefs py.py quines quotes random_elliott real script.py selflink share src twolines wisdom wisdom.pdf < 1434704368 680939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also fixed it so that you can use ``` to set the locale to the C locale, as a shortcut for that < 1434704396 679758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1434704404 512844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of having to type LC_COLLATE=C and whatever < 1434704470 394203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I usually run everything with a mixed locale: LC_CTYPE is set but every other category is C locale. this has even triggered a nasty libc bug that comes up only for mixed locale, but that was lots of years ago and fixed since. < 1434704565 976348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally I wish there was an environment variable to define the encoding of the terminal, without involving locales, but LC_CTYPE is a workaround that works in most of the cases. (I also wish terminal libraries accepted a _list_ of terminfo terminal names instead of just one.) < 1434704790 645704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat "bin/```" < 1434704791 326171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1434704795 969376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat "bin/``" < 1434704796 612228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/: Is a directory < 1434704801 758270 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434704802 869479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat "bin/\`\`" < 1434704803 504458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :export LANG=C; bash -c "$1" < 1434704809 161812 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, metacharacter < 1434704846 796307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` locale < 1434704847 533682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="C" \ LC_NUMERIC="C" \ LC_TIME="C" \ LC_COLLATE="C" \ LC_MONETARY="C" \ LC_MESSAGES="C" \ LC_PAPER="C" \ LC_NAME="C" \ LC_ADDRESS="C" \ LC_TELEPHONE="C" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="C" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" \ LC_ALL= < 1434704962 1532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed -i 's/;.*1"/; exec bash -c "$@"/' 'bin/``' # doesn't matter much, but can't hurt < 1434704970 331828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434704971 405241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` locale < 1434704972 214267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="C" \ LC_NUMERIC="C" \ LC_TIME="C" \ LC_COLLATE="C" \ LC_MONETARY="C" \ LC_MESSAGES="C" \ LC_PAPER="C" \ LC_NAME="C" \ LC_ADDRESS="C" \ LC_TELEPHONE="C" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="C" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" \ LC_ALL= < 1434705209 766757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434706876 738492 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434708038 30263 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434708041 902180 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1434708121 37117 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:61ff:e8a4:2067:1afc QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434709031 950087 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434709515 230795 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434709736 477467 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434710121 633723 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434711023 631713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! "libpq" is the database client library of PostgreSQL, right? < 1434711472 621321 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434712554 699075 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434712819 572508 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434712969 531634 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PITTORESQUE CHICKEN < 1434712994 834018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434713306 907890 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434713420 715464 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434713694 321701 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1434716967 666041 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434717144 853260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1434719091 385266 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434720975 304595 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neural net link of the day: < 1434720976 123368 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/u/182786/07/02/bin/oerjan/particular-lower-documentation-example < 1434721369 837804 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`oerjan < 1434721376 177303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/oerjan: line 1: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA: < 1434721381 387172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434721626 530159 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434723505 522818 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.78.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434724183 442894 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.78.174 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434724849 397345 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434724850 589541 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really needs to learn Java < 1434725617 388798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`` < 1434725617 892891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :export LANG=C; exec bash -c "$@" < 1434725622 970952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1434725623 479733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIMEFORMAT='real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS' exec bash -c -- "$1" < 1434726004 46040 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/oerjan < 1434726004 572185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1434726049 339404 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s selflink bin/selflink < 1434726051 372944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434726062 293421 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`selflink < 1434726062 867860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: selflink: not found < 1434726070 61720 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bin/selflink < 1434726070 592573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: bin/selflink: Too many levels of symbolic links < 1434726548 274664 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434726759 665647 :blade310!~canaima@186-92-64-162.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434726809 930004 :blade310!~canaima@186-92-64-162.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434728265 883181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: going home < 1434729677 289304 :Guest83580!~theone@103.228.40.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434729792 340447 :Guest83580!~theone@103.228.40.203 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434729857 267375 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434730286 133308 :password2!~password@197.77.75.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434731260 316600 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now the proud owner of a framed paper, with "Oren Isaac Watson" in a cursive font, and "Honours Bachelor of Science with Distinction" in an uncial font. < 1434731293 988880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434731307 889064 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, where is your alma mater? < 1434731319 28789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: great < 1434731332 162422 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Toronto < 1434731390 111711 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's dangerously close to a university which almost shares its name with my university! < 1434731420 316042 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, York University. My dad works there < 1434731462 188875 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm at University of York < 1434731469 1063 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats, by the way :) < 1434731476 268568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking of doing a master's? < 1434731490 844643 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right away < 1434731506 526293 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1434731509 751151 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair :) < 1434731558 442690 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I do plan to the the JLPT 3 this winter < 1434731569 903725 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/take/ < 1434731614 561229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what's that? < 1434731616 461646 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :JLPT? < 1434731626 320538 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese Language Proficiency Test. < 1434731629 925445 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1434731630 101066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1434731645 172546 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 5 levels with 1 the highest < 1434731651 173642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434731657 949355 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "日本語能力試験". < 1434731658 752438 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you start at -4? < 1434731661 580424 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434731675 619738 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::B < 1434731682 490919 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at the University of Reading < 1434731690 667844 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert "reading" pun here. < 1434731693 488817 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serious question: should I accept this Google job offer? < 1434731702 550303 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:P) < 1434731711 432620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd much rather work for Mozilla than Google < 1434731727 524564 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, one of my almost-friends from high school is at Reading! < 1434731732 673422 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, is there a reason you wouldn't accept it? < 1434731738 671734 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434731746 486122 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read Google's interview process is annoying < 1434731749 386939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, he is studying computer science! < 1434731750 1225 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then accept it. < 1434731763 45297 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which year? < 1434731773 506666 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, unsure, either first or second < 1434731778 87362 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris "Easty" Eastwood < 1434731779 601425 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It is, but I'm on the other side of it. < 1434731860 805478 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what would you be doing? < 1434731866 180606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't recognise the name < 1434731868 714790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: try to find people you know who already work at Google. ask them what it's like. < 1434731870 579559 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Site reliability engineering. < 1434731876 682640 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I did. < 1434731882 868628 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question was not actually serious. < 1434731889 976907 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I already hit accept. < 1434731905 91557 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, fair enough :) < 1434731930 461085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said... ok, good luck < 1434731954 507622 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Maybe if I saw a photo I could recognise him, but no guarantees < 1434731964 330969 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Was a joke. < 1434732080 586526 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you going to work in California or at a local site < 1434732085 271551 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :California. < 1434732089 735070 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1434732091 43537 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, PM'd you a photo < 1434732208 86805 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434734968 213898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you know what you'll be SREing? < 1434735380 103614 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1434735881 993854 :password2!~password@197.77.75.14 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434736279 207201 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434737238 217855 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignoring the timestamps, this bit of autogenerated log seems pretty plausible: < 1434737246 881852 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:52:41: <oerjan> wait, you can still control iteration in the discarded argument < 1434737247 57689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:13:13: <oerjan> darn < 1434737247 57765 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:21:49: <oerjan> right < 1434737584 241111 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, you start at -3. < 1434737957 278174 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1434738156 176311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've already accepted it? < 1434738233 2882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are you moving here? < 1434738303 584609 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, probably some time in the next couple weeks. < 1434738323 565377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talk with relocation people on Monday. < 1434738508 664687 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, Carlsen lost again. < 1434738541 864907 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gonna set up an appointment with an optometrist like, on my start date... < 1434738554 559863 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i.e. after the insurance kicks in? < 1434738557 429584 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1434738565 487510 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm *pretty* sure my prescription is a bit off these days. < 1434738774 55089 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1434738896 689386 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434739190 415276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andrej Bauer is great. < 1434739208 738576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://andrej.com/fan.html < 1434739427 20434 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c900:1378:a79f:3bb5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434739487 899806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434739587 70743 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434739616 165283 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1434739655 167858 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PART :#esoteric < 1434740329 298030 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434741277 310283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434741278 839091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eurovision/Eurovision is the European way of looking at the world. For some reason it involves a lot of cheesy singing. < 1434741282 300636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434741283 180856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cls/cls is a command to clear the screen. < 1434741409 688250 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh this is riddiculous < 1434741413 784914 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1434741443 89011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's true! < 1434741450 451294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1434741453 315075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all speculation < 1434741457 706994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's riddiculous < 1434741471 352441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the typo intentional? < 1434741500 849945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's barely any reliable historical data, but the historians make all kinds of crazy specific hypothesis from the very little data they can find < 1434741510 97658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, I just can't spell < 1434741517 558553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( hmm, riddleculous ) < 1434741583 27771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't pronounce either. if I could, "riddiculous" wouldn't make sense as the spelling < 1434741585 856745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that pun would've worked better if the answer had been "yes". < 1434741609 446925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's stressed on the second syllable < 1434741725 234765 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ridicule < 1434741726 946653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridicule? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434741844 245170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah but no, not because of that < 1434741889 707747 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :first syllable is just my default assumption of basically every word because Hungarian has fixed stress on first syllable and I don't know enough about English pronunciation to have good guesses about stress < 1434742111 577354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... In English stress can actually make it a different word < 1434742121 506097 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yes, but rarely < 1434742134 237654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :much rarely than just plain homonyms that are stressed the same too < 1434742142 861622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/much rarely/much more rarely/ < 1434742212 191964 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the word "defence" can be stressed either way < 1434742345 955474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434742346 980422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :york/York used to be known as Amsterdam. < 1434742391 665178 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are various words, where the shift turns a verb into a noun < 1434742426 374982 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reCORD - verb REcord - noun < 1434742457 752509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two words are otherwise identical in pronounciation < 1434742494 356354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434742496 895743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuchichäschtli/chuchichäschtli is spoken as [ˈχʊχːiˌχæʃːtli] < 1434742723 781901 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1434742785 613983 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434743355 207076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah, that's a quite famous example: "table", "record", "rebel" and a few other words change their hyphenation depending on their meaning, so they can't be automatically hyphenated < 1434743428 436833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Hungarian has any word that can change hyphenation, though in theory such a word could exist. That doesn't mean we have perfect hyphenation algorithms of course, because there are words it just doesn't know. < 1434743461 503627 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the Hungarian hyphenation rules are very simple. There's about four rules total. < 1434743477 251447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe five or something. depends on how you count. < 1434743718 923082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shachaf hyphenation rule is that when you run out of space in the line and you're in the middle of a word, you write a hyphen. < 1434743750 196395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe there is such a word. There are four possible ambiguities I can think of that could result in such a word, though two seem very unlikely to actually cause an example. < 1434743808 922011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434743812 955367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :famicom/Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1434743848 282228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be famikomu then... < 1434743854 914593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thought Famicom was another name for the Nintendo Entertainment System. < 1434743894 865630 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom trust < 1434743895 693891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess/Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1434743919 151565 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trust < 1434743919 881916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434743920 679857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it sounds like I'm wrong. < 1434743921 304270 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1434744091 115093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it sounds like I'm wrong about being wrong. < 1434744713 929396 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434744728 955384 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434744857 823961 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric : stop being wrong < 1434745139 909634 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... < 1434745165 28808 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a negative currency... &3 = -$3 < 1434745222 754294 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could use negadollars to balance out inflation? < 1434745335 290499 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I wonder if that would work < 1434745373 535631 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if both dollars and minus dollars become common, then.. would that balance out inflation ...? < 1434745377 751094 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wouldn't it? < 1434745383 773175 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1434745392 82456 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, cant you just throw away a negadollar...? < 1434745423 81518 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omg I have this -$10000 note... I'll just burn it." < 1434745465 345653 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll throw the monetary system off balance < 1434745476 984214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nothing to worry about < 1434745482 523997 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm yea I'm not an economizer < 1434745489 525166 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaos should be the goal tho < 1434745517 720045 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434745829 228800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The Nintendo Entertainment System is a system which is very similar to Famicom (most programs for one will work also on the other with an adapter) < 1434745877 26312 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat more easy to run NES games on a Famicom than vice versa. < 1434745937 433420 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most notable likely issue is that some NES games will not read any controllers on the expansion port. < 1434746071 712618 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434746388 511167 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what if the negadollar was a cryptographically irrepudiatable? < 1434746471 263085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434746472 102472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode/Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people. < 1434746488 153020 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it would be possible, using public information, to prove exactly how many negadollars someone has < 1434746494 829710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/unicode < 1434746496 213947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1434746498 261573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1434746502 886221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434746504 101668 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pdf/PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format. < 1434746566 358393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434746569 243328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`/` is the prefix to greatness. < 1434746576 255947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434746577 126694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glumgot/glumgot is not a particularly bad swear word, but is still disquieting. < 1434746611 448212 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, when I pay you, I can do so by transferring a negadollar from yourself to me; such that there is a public record that you have N less negadollars and I have N more < 1434746716 12263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You're moving from Indiana or someplace like that? < 1434746740 918361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missouri. < 1434746768 454856 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no but close. < 1434746785 113217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1434746788 115057 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To encourage trade, the public record would increase by a continuously compounded say 2% per year < 1434746798 980292 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely a cross-country move. < 1434746803 231192 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not packed yet? < 1434746958 819374 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434747011 7695 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is similar to the inflation of normal currencies, but it is more obvious) < 1434747023 898414 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I'm in misery, can you take me with you? < 1434747118 855821 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434747426 481118 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434747481 240732 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434747487 572500 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1434747523 546045 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdome < 1434747524 163793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdome: not found < 1434747528 235331 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434747529 143459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork/no < 1434747540 982617 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1 < 1434747541 831221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed < 1434747549 211428 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1434747549 928883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1434747561 595486 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1434747562 363120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1434747621 825064 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/39wvrm/hodor_esolang_as_a_rust_macro/ < 1434747676 268035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43229&oldid=43217 5* 03139.55.4.74 5* (+14) 10Added Damarok < 1434747752 874985 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes more moral sense if you use negative currency & as opposed to positive currency £ and $ and euro and stuff... having &3 means "you owe $3 to the world, until you can reach financial enlightenment." but having $3 means "the world owes you $3...? wait.. what?" < 1434747813 185829 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1434747815 280270 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434747824 814051 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was the one who added Damarok, BTW < 1434747933 944339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Darmok14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43230 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+128) 10/* Well SORRY */ new section < 1434748006 733358 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I think theoretically, US dollars are a zero currency. < 1434748020 714828 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible for anyone to actually own a US dollar. Therefore, the total number of US dollars in the world is zero. < 1434748027 382709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43231&oldid=43230 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+271) 10/* Well SORRY */ < 1434748039 594521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that? < 1434748049 139138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43232&oldid=43231 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+13) 10 < 1434748056 182980 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a dollar bill, that doesn't mean I own a dollar. It means that the Fed owes me a dollar. The dollar bill is worth $1 to me, and -$1 to the Fed. < 1434748060 661610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43233&oldid=43232 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-14) 10 < 1434748072 297718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, if I have a dollar in my bank account, that doesn't mean I own a dollar; it means the bank owes me a dollar. < 1434748078 430983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434748144 487940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has even been suggested that <BAL|FSV> = 0 can suggest this (when applied globally), although I have not thought of it that way < 1434748158 238692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is <BAL|FSV>? < 1434748185 524000 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The product of <BAL| and |FSB>, hth? < 1434748197 672995 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434748210 810676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The |FSV> is a financial state vector, which can vary, but must always remain orthogonal to <BAL| which is fixed < 1434748212 933383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it's the inner product of BAL and FSV or something. < 1434748226 777897 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's <BAL| ? < 1434748259 724504 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Likewise, if I have a dollar in my bank account, that doesn't mean I own a dollar; it means the bank owes me a dollar." so why can't the bank just hold a negadollar? < 1434748301 257485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is short for "balance" and normally you might set the components for each account to 1 and others to 0 if using that basis state; but you could use other basis vectors instead if it helps, all that it is is that |FSV> is required to remain orthogonal to it. < 1434748315 502413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's what it is. < 1434748319 527755 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if money is locally conserved everywhere, but you can't define a globally sum of money invariant, sort of like energy in global relativity? < 1434748359 620359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: Can't the bank already potentially store negative amounts in an account? < 1434748364 602555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, money isn't created or destroyed locally anywhere, but you can't just say that the totaly some of money is conserved in any meaningful sense < 1434748367 390120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you are in debt) < 1434748388 621911 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure it can, though that might be Bad for you < 1434748422 303326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, you are in debt < 1434748497 74168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you remember the Infocom game _Bureaucracy_? < 1434748502 375609 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether or not you can define a globally sum of money invariant; I am not the government (and perhaps even the government doesn't know?) < 1434748654 887668 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434748676 890208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43234&oldid=43220 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+712) 10Added some code < 1434748677 584215 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434748703 571060 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434748734 487448 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but negative currency is more moral: if you have no $$$, nothing to sell and stuff, you can't start in life... but if you have no &&& in negative world, nothing to sell and stuff, you can start in life by buying stuff, and pay the world back later. < 1434748806 277528 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what's going on < 1434748815 820684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that |FSV> here is a vector of a projective space, it seems to me! < 1434748816 254948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1434748871 286079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Darmok14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43235&oldid=43234 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+4) 10Added extension < 1434748898 989535 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to help me figure out Darmok? < 1434748943 293856 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-227.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434748991 542558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43236&oldid=43235 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+49) 10Changed code < 1434749073 831239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I don't know much right now, but I can see a few thing from what you have written < 1434749084 581319 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1434749090 275895 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a barely-decent page < 1434749113 873244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still hardly good enough yet, just one example that explain a few thing about it < 1434749129 270330 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1434749142 932863 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only recently started it < 1434749149 956835 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making it incrementally instead of all at once < 1434749209 648607 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1434749217 457497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43237&oldid=43236 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+122) 10Opened the language to public modification < 1434749269 787007 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434749280 482982 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434749307 123255 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wont the metaphors and mythologies themselves require verbs or verb like constructions? < 1434749319 761969 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434749326 325643 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did I say they wouldn't? < 1434749364 522961 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434749397 398587 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Metaphors and Mythologies can be defined in Darmok or another language < 1434749407 851814 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a particuarly well-defined language < 1434749427 147444 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ones defined in Darmok pretty much need to use ones defined in Non-Darmok < 1434749449 931659 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/well-define/well-made < 1434749483 638045 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434749488 737884 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if they didnt...? < 1434749492 669644 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1434749509 641542 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we use a modification of English where verbs are not allowed... < 1434749520 818529 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we come up with a sentence? < 1434749528 92610 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434749531 51586 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can't < 1434749538 712944 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sentences need verbs < 1434749561 547493 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barring one-word sentences like "No," which don't even completely count as sentences < 1434749577 328999 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434749599 800922 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure stuff affirming stuff like "you are wrong." don't have verbs per-say, but other verb-like constructions...? < 1434749611 636989 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Are" is a verb < 1434749619 778770 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. okay... < 1434749621 506463 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1434749641 262021 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty much certain some parts of darmok will need to be defined in another language < 1434749664 937797 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's written in python, for example, it will run a lexer on the line and pattern-match it < 1434749667 279216 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use adjectives...? < 1434749675 772652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: see also http://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/13451/4918 < 1434749682 40889 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first pattern that matches corresponds to a python function < 1434749685 580460 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is then called < 1434749686 851277 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loser you winner me" means "I get stuff from you!" or "you give stuff to me" < 1434749699 812422 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434749705 899921 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't get and give verbs? < 1434749706 896647 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's not an actual sentence per say, but it'll work < 1434749722 429533 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loser you winner me" doesn't have any verbs in it. < 1434749768 386298 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I could turn "you are wrong" into "wrong you" < 1434749772 961329 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tada, no verbs. < 1434749779 929993 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1434749781 443259 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea < 1434749792 357646 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll need to define a set of primitive < 1434749793 181238 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1434749832 36617 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"victim fred, thief samuel" for example < 1434749836 301321 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And these primitives will be used to define the official code you're allowed to use < 1434749904 117043 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how would we define print in the TheBible/Jesus library? < 1434749912 220733 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434749925 188317 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably writing to stdio < 1434749928 694517 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a fie < 1434749930 170316 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*file < 1434749980 829808 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1434749990 54994 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm stuck thinking about another language I'm designing < 1434749990 370365 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434749992 903661 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even cooler < 1434750063 240279 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loud 'Hello World!'" describing the string 'Hello World!' as loud... < 1434750070 854977 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1434750073 134856 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1434750087 826571 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This other language is called PFIL < 1434750098 772397 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the Purely Functional Imperative Language < 1434750115 580155 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. sounds interesting...wait... what...? this is... < 1434750122 981212 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a huge pain in the ass to implement < 1434750126 668674 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd be AMAZING to use < 1434750129 109172 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"functional imperative"???? < 1434750134 261173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck? < 1434750143 885068 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not functional in the declararve sense < 1434750147 92294 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a WIP name < 1434750156 724553 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not perfectly accurate < 1434750158 627698 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... what paradigm would it be in? < 1434750164 224552 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imperative < 1434750169 676204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the oath of Feanor wasn't public knowledge in middle-earth, and Galadriel could just choose to not tell about it to Melian and think she won't easily learn about it? < 1434750170 860673 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But EVERYTHING is a function < 1434750179 918408 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that includes things like If statements and operators < 1434750183 520059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's new to me. I should read the Silmarillon very carefully. < 1434750189 539847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's a lot I don't understand < 1434750191 7682 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just like my Table programming language though where everything is a table... < 1434750199 759739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can something like that _not_ be public knowledge? < 1434750205 786885 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Table, I think, if I remember correctly, was declarative < 1434750229 348211 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was < 1434750243 760206 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. and I don't think it was turing complete < 1434750279 144062 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well PFIL allows really weird stuff < 1434750306 42990 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :show us... we're dieing to know < 1434750316 991250 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I got the offer < 1434750340 737775 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example < 1434750346 363105 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the library that defines... < 1434750349 348771 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comparison operators < 1434750351 488626 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1434750352 104140 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/TheGloriousRepublic/Purely-Functional-Imperative-Language/blob/master/doc/Lib/comp.pfil < 1434750378 160709 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's seriously WIP < 1434750392 526902 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'd be impossible to implement a language that's accept that library as-is < 1434750420 461586 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining comparison operators... ha...! I could do that in haskell... < 1434750431 569539 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434750437 355707 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could too < 1434750445 366647 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except this is an imperative language < 1434750462 789001 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait ...? < 1434750476 389203 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1434750479 917600 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look like they're all circularly defined to me - not that that's a problem of course < 1434750488 392460 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1434750503 720890 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the comparison operators had to be primitives for it to work, keep in mind < 1434750507 350320 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok... < 1434750513 831455 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there's a way I could do it without < 1434750519 992935 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1434750521 747716 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case feel free to make a pull request < 1434750527 719186 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta maybe possibly but idk the language < 1434750541 583927 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434750541 759693 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1434750550 947393 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define the equivalent of complex statements < 1434750560 305712 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define for-loops and stuff < 1434750568 50500 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik... < 1434750572 393606 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434750574 314016 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1434750577 79080 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434750579 83493 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pointing out < 1434750591 261719 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are numbers defined...? are they primitive too...? < 1434750594 508029 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something no other language I've ever used allowed < 1434750598 424957 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so < 1434750605 341989 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is technically a clss < 1434750607 184459 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*class < 1434750610 421262 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha... < 1434750624 381554 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just say functions because it's more accurate < 1434750625 815664 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers dont have to be primitive if youre willing to fudge around a little < 1434750636 896940 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1434750639 138476 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1434750640 472958 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434750655 560258 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This language is going to be a huge pain to implement if anyone ever decides to < 1434750664 875777 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll probably be done by PhD's if it ever is < 1434750671 699662 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Haskell, you could define data Number = Zero | Succ number... < 1434750677 834374 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1434750681 89123 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Successor function < 1434750684 771477 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434750692 719100 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434750699 827423 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't even fudging around < 1434750706 382174 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 1 = succ(zero), 2 = succ(succ(zero)) < 1434750709 211333 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1434750711 677962 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434750749 615628 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1434750754 253554 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assuming you can do stuff like x.deccessor or decc(x) or something < 1434750759 623294 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do addition < 1434750761 774790 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434750768 665359 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1434750790 428667 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were to make a library for this and pull request it that'd be AMAZING < 1434750798 507073 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function add(x, succ(y)) { return succ(add(x, y)) } < 1434750806 400839 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434750812 54446 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then alias + with add < 1434750832 130813 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use ++ though instead of succ < 1434750841 328915 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1434750866 740160 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder... you said they were technically classes...? < 1434750873 71579 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434750875 499073 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like python < 1434750877 909439 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1434750895 203069 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number would be an instance of the number class. Metaphorically speaking < 1434750912 413576 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :right ...? < 1434750918 555692 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434750921 182270 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434750963 892667 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, may I ask, is the if conditional a primitive? < 1434750969 277823 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434750982 899909 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can forgo that too by modifying the boolean library < 1434750986 208233 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if/*elif/else is (probably) not < 1434750988 573380 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1434750991 773500 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1434750993 606101 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Table was basically based on < 1434751008 124886 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this language to be as library-defined as possible < 1434751022 216486 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With as few builtins as I can muster < 1434751025 289920 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true.ifTrue(doStuff) would doStuff, false.ifTrue(doStuff) wouldn't... < 1434751034 978801 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically legible brainfuck < 1434751041 363800 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434751063 278417 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifTrue(True){dostuff();} < 1434751064 912291 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so add the ifTrue functions to the boolean objects themselves, true.ifTrue would do whatever you give it, and false.ifTrue would be a NOP < 1434751081 581131 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite understand < 1434751084 803542 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1434751087 684285 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I get it < 1434751091 134263 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of < 1434751126 73439 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen that syntax before < 1434751134 920222 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know objects have properties and methods, like account.desposit(123)? < 1434751139 21565 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434751174 587934 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :false.ifTrue({ stuff }) is basically an object, false, with the method, ifTrue < 1434751190 188515 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH < 1434751193 7691 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesome < 1434751198 153357 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is truely awesome < 1434751201 852004 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claps < 1434751203 58726 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434751214 224402 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what would false() return anyway? < 1434751222 923674 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434751226 934082 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :False is a builtin I think < 1434751242 970217 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :True() and False() are builtins? srsly? < 1434751261 202313 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well when I wrote it they were < 1434751264 935099 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't have to be < 1434751276 76145 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... you see... < 1434751280 868206 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just going on the thought that they had to be < 1434751286 202609 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1434751294 208294 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they are in my favourite language < 1434751294 552126 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434751297 403474 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python < 1434751302 272460 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... < 1434751304 571576 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1434751323 376739 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any objects with properties and methods? or is it literally all just functions? < 1434751346 275480 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the functions are technically callable objects < 1434751349 13590 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in Python < 1434751357 437145 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm building off of all the best languages I know of < 1434751373 138876 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell, Python, the two good things in Javascript, etc. < 1434751393 397637 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some C < 1434751402 76216 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the objects have properties...? < 1434751411 877658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you consider Forth and Lisp? < 1434751415 888360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434751421 957610 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how an account has a balance? or a person has an age? < 1434751425 44463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also SQL? < 1434751426 617457 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Forth and I barely know lisp < 1434751434 172157 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434751443 293310 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objects have properties and methods < 1434751459 589708 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... you could do this! true(doStuff) directly instead of invoking a property of true < 1434751474 105080 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so true could be an identity/call function and false would be a NOP < 1434751476 335316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any SQL though? < 1434751484 682994 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really < 1434751501 331880 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there'll be a SQL library for it < 1434751508 223739 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function true(stuff) { return stuff() }; function false(stuff) { return }; < 1434751510 530516 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written a little, but I barely understand it < 1434751519 444688 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep in mind I use javascript function notation < 1434751537 279415 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik... I'm using pseudo code at the moment. should I fork the project? < 1434751540 793150 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434751567 265569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In JavaScript you can also make anonymous functions too, and overridable prototypes and generator functions and others < 1434751571 437639 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then call foo if x is greater than five you would do "x>5(foo);" ? < 1434751575 667848 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can do that < 1434751584 449798 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like the function expression < 1434751599 767794 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use aliases < 1434751606 11143 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1434751615 699863 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(true, stuff) = alias(true(stuff)) < 1434751629 200842 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of right < 1434751631 932331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the syntax in JavaScript is too long though, and suggested stuff like @(x)(x) for the identity function < 1434751681 194632 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1434751722 553422 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, was that a suggestion you made regarding JS or was that a suggestion for me? < 1434751733 170424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About JavaScript < 1434751745 516934 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1434751790 43585 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what the syntax should be for denoting blocks of code to be used within functions < 1434751802 88372 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1434751815 754907 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out how alias stuff works. < 1434751818 126964 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be x = function(vars){code} because the {code} block would be interpreted as the definition < 1434751824 84673 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too :P < 1434751842 443862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not quite understand what you are trying to do now? < 1434751857 119856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you mea nabout "denoting blocks of code to be used within functions"? < 1434751858 600624 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What don't you understand? < 1434751861 717872 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434751873 657489 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PFIL allows you to define functions with code as an argument < 1434751892 52899 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO a for loop could be defined in a library using while loops and incrementation, for example < 1434751902 143847 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont merge yet btw < 1434751906 18595 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: like smalltalk or ruby? < 1434751910 320060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, well, I would still just make the contents of the loop body also as a function < 1434751945 445481 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do ruby and smalltalk allow that? < 1434751961 286551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else, use macros instead. < 1434751985 769898 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias function ... < 1434752000 120256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: yes, that's a basic feature of smalltalk, and ruby has inherited it, though only with up to one block argument per call < 1434752002 136210 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about it? < 1434752013 941144 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434752048 465277 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez < 1434752062 73361 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does ruby implement it? < 1434752072 246258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it implements it < 1434752079 646192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's… an implementation detail < 1434752082 182101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't much care < 1434752218 688245 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434752225 581994 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like you use an ampersand < 1434752240 30056 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the _syntax_ in ruby. Or at least most of it. Are you asking about that? < 1434752251 573982 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it out < 1434752255 823660 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thanks < 1434752264 781573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complicated, there's like ten syntax elements related to it < 1434752278 57058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want me to explain most of it, you can ask < 1434752278 660010 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'll just use the ampersand < 1434752286 396901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help with smalltalk though < 1434752286 584644 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is rd still here? < 1434752290 309180 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true and false method stuff I talked about is implemented into Smalltalk, but I think it bypasses that logic code straight to the compiler < 1434752291 918777 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it < 1434752312 487961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: sure, it makes sense to optimize booleans < 1434752312 682721 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1434752347 607300 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditionals occur a lot, so doing an extra function call for each of them could be bad < 1434752358 295006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a practical interpreter that is < 1434752395 337038 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1434752400 464267 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what they did < 1434752412 147840 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the method stuff is still in Smalltalk source code anyway < 1434752420 268144 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting feature < 1434752433 486986 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the operators that can be used in function arguments are *(splat), **(double splat), & (code block), and maybe others < 1434752434 521083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, useful for lots of other functions, such as for iterating over some containers < 1434752491 767549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some details of smalltalk and ruby seem really esoteric to me actually < 1434752499 55576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only because I'm not used to them < 1434752512 79226 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might be natural for someone who's grown up on those languages < 1434752628 763210 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The order than you can put arguments into a function is foo(requiredargs..., optionalargs..., *listargs, **kwargs, &blockargs) < 1434752706 56034 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1434752734 912421 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434752735 201856 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :my method of implementing gt requires equality... shoud that be primitive ...? < 1434752751 783314 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1434752754 89088 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1434752762 75798 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it with as few primitives as possible < 1434752763 340322 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :equality seems more primitive than gt or lt... < 1434752774 274863 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just made a travelling salesman problem for you < 1434752775 743072 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434752778 255287 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1434752780 573400 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it that way < 1434752905 38081 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you making a pull request then? < 1434752909 452376 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434752909 638441 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434753056 484635 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet... < 1434753066 291997 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be logically consistent < 1434753075 38780 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean are you working on something that you'll pull request to me < 1434753076 657622 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434753090 331122 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434753091 922872 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably the worst way I could've phrased that :P < 1434753092 903868 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434753096 226049 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome :) < 1434753153 986878 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it... my internet glitched and now I have to remake the changes I made in comp.pfil... < 1434753161 292633 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1434753177 266775 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how did an internet glitch do that? < 1434753181 249765 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434753187 732172 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You edited the file on GitHub < 1434753347 853987 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there werent many so < 1434753360 704983 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1434753395 170607 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I've made some changes. I'll keep making changes until I can remove another primitive... < 1434753400 209955 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434753424 513302 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can push what you've done for now if it's consistent < 1434753437 341305 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434753441 424042 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'll just accept it and you can add the next bout right after I do it < 1434753455 519768 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly just want to feel the march of progress :P < 1434753457 389879 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... let me check through to make sure < 1434753464 29022 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434753465 8216 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1434753596 974378 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... you can check it too... tell me about anything youre unsure of < 1434753651 583371 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you push it? < 1434753676 525202 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not getting anything < 1434753682 316634 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me refresh a few more times < 1434753721 133296 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... did it < 1434753730 642655 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1434753801 196390 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore the silly commit comment stuff... had to change addition and subtraction but it's fine now < 1434753895 544565 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1434753909 848733 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I edited some stuff before I sent you the link to the repo < 1434753916 397939 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I forgot to commit it < 1434753920 109485 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have a merge conflig < 1434753922 572453 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1434753932 577261 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conflict < 1434753941 261074 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434754017 407540 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just thinking, imagine if there was a way to substitute the function() and return() primitives for something that isn't... also, about set()... < 1434754027 903701 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1434754039 550487 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... nvm... < 1434754041 738018 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434754081 563497 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function return(function, parameters, returnValue) { function(parameters) = returnValue } < 1434754090 590187 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that even makes sense < 1434754095 278206 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1434754108 208037 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434754108 552433 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434754114 480042 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were defining return < 1434754117 7391 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me look < 1434754146 96420 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get it... I'm setting the function value to stuff... < 1434754155 202176 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434754161 549086 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to fix this merge conflig < 1434754164 500569 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conflit < 1434754166 843123 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conflict < 1434754171 975426 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :k... < 1434754181 364361 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you change btw? < 1434754186 117720 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1434754193 368925 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conflict is in comp.pfil < 1434754197 266904 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed it a while ago < 1434754203 874559 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the commit doesn't even tell you < 1434754211 278100 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I didn't know when I wrote it xD < 1434754320 618584 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1434754326 22555 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to debug the state of the repo < 1434754551 85824 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434754553 912639 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it < 1434754560 154735 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think I lost some progress on the docs < 1434754562 45645 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1434754563 122940 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434754566 567223 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a backup! < 1434754567 785794 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right! < 1434754570 181360 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am amazing! < 1434754571 668597 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434754631 762482 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All is well in the world of programming < 1434754716 117067 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434754727 927114 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Din* *Din* 7 o clock and all's well < 1434754735 13868 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434754739 839876 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434754752 926316 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just refreshed the page, hopefully didn't miss anything) < 1434754753 875794 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1434754756 532779 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434754762 334119 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does /afk do anything? < 1434754769 299343 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1434754770 567848 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1434754771 303758 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1434754775 459870 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don;t think so < 1434754834 503385 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can read the logs for stuff you missed, unless you're like me and just keep Irssi running for weeks < 1434754864 984779 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can simply scroll up < 1434754907 990342 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an IRC noob and am using WebChat < 1434754936 480942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434754940 176068 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started Irssi on June 1 and haven't signed off since < 1434754941 59965 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to fork it again... < 1434754948 299427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434754961 650633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what does on the WebChat; I use my own IRC client because I don't like the others < 1434754999 444065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some webpages don't even link to the actual IRC and only to a webpage to chat on IRC; sometimes I have to view the source to figure out the proper address to connect to with my own IRC client. < 1434755035 280547 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434755041 764792 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434755043 717135 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434755090 242007 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cls < 1434755094 141305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cls: not found < 1434755102 295657 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1434755105 578113 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./clear is nice < 1434755168 465902 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw JOIN :#esoteric < 1434755217 363145 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1434755307 885486 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could I implement function() so its not a primitive? < 1434755363 18336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: with templates < 1434755363 673836 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434755383 520146 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that's possible < 1434755394 758151 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, without many other primitives < 1434755437 694829 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering implementing table < 1434755444 555860 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :first class macros? < 1434755457 286910 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 NICK :YOURMUM < 1434755483 863627 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434755499 702669 :YOURMUM!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1434755513 148443 :YOURMUM!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 NICK :hppavilion1 < 1434755794 635240 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434755877 790714 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I've been able to implement return() < 1434755882 876833 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1434755898 846795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434755909 335069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434755963 172841 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh but its messed up < 1434755983 959368 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the return() stuff looks like a forked version of my unmerged code stuff and stuff < 1434755993 674748 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I delete my fork? < 1434756019 623397 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you go to the settings < 1434756023 612693 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And find the Danger Zone < 1434756046 679098 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And delete repo < 1434756144 454115 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1434756151 956202 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think table could actually be useful for something < 1434756180 680383 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a language so esoteric it stops being just for fun and becomes a fully legit, useful lang < 1434756252 196253 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434756314 629333 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1434756329 828798 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so esoteric, it's not esoteric anymore... < 1434756334 443760 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw JOIN :#esoteric < 1434756335 958794 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1434756344 576943 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434756347 156221 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats still cool and esoteric... < 1434756351 843828 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a lexer for it < 1434756358 342696 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool... < 1434756359 461007 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two lines of code :P < 1434756365 822036 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooler < 1434756366 633085 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 3 I guess < 1434756369 871789 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the import < 1434756391 80594 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ast import literal_eval def lex(script): return literal_eval('{'+script.replace('[', '{').replace(']', '}')) < 1434756404 622146 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434756594 478424 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I dont think table is turing complete < 1434756614 44855 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434756616 634029 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed the parser < 1434756618 315462 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming lazy evaluation, table is at best, a finite state automaton... unless someone can disprove that... < 1434756633 567824 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make it turing complete with modification to the standard < 1434756643 664792 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :make Table turing complete? < 1434756644 441280 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I'll leave it as is < 1434756648 931938 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If possible < 1434756651 238395 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what how? < 1434756654 848175 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK < 1434756658 24382 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I will do it < 1434756662 336121 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I can't < 1434756668 835926 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed up the lexer < 1434756672 223351 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's buggy, but it works < 1434756672 409890 :KitB!~quassel@kitb.pw PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1434756675 20021 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is possible < 1434756685 434093 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ture < 1434756686 881142 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*True < 1434756696 157515 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you're turing complete xD < 1434756700 426789 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1434756713 327096 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except for solving the halting problem < 1434756719 986420 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1434756724 262061 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I think I can...) < 1434756728 482559 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything possible is possible if you're turing complete < 1434756734 774716 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434756736 776293 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems tautological, but isn't < 1434756760 392508 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> lex("{'walrus': {'man': 'person'}}") returns {'walrus': {'man': 'person'}} < 1434756763 30730 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1434756763 216870 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think it works < 1434756792 761128 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434756794 788297 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a problem < 1434756795 727920 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1434756804 674114 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know... I think I could solve the halting problem... convert the program into pseudo code and use some kind of machine to tell whether there are loops and stuff or not < 1434756827 155862 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shitshitshitshitshitshitshit < 1434756830 589744 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (true) { do stuff } obviously doesnt halt < 1434756838 419736 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but null program does < 1434756840 63662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't always work though, but you can sometimes figure out that it doesn't halt < 1434756847 851369 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEah < 1434756855 995420 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have a problem < 1434756861 85256 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1434756871 210801 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for some programs < 1434756883 419726 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So naturally, I'm going to suggest a change for table instead of fixing it in my program :P < 1434756897 368673 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1434756945 247228 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just a raw library name being used for import (which makes it not technically a table), make it do somthing like map "libraries" to a list of tables to use < 1434756950 570122 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not tables to use < 1434756953 400964 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Libraries to use < 1434756960 428548 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms himself < 1434756979 524762 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even better, to make the list of libraries a table too < 1434756989 71369 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it a map mapping library names to booleans < 1434756994 31652 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they're true importing htem < 1434757002 347124 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they're false ignoring them < 1434757005 621171 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gave me idea < 1434757022 958655 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good :) < 1434757028 680663 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like doing that < 1434757146 63213 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of assigning properties to values... < 1434757153 806284 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do sets of flags, like < 1434757160 255803 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In pfil or in Table? < 1434757182 185201 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 = [successor of 2, predeccessor of 4, derp, herp] < 1434757193 649899 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Table derivative < 1434757198 182196 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah < 1434757230 439393 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my current lexer will work < 1434757236 649665 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to write a whole lexer :/ < 1434757478 326903 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how does this derivative work? < 1434757756 351468 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434757785 484058 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1434757789 46517 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = 0 < 1434757792 79837 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = 0++ < 1434757794 637648 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 = 1++ < 1434757795 363406 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1434757809 139627 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :x++-- = x < 1434757882 246059 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea just like pfil once < 1434757888 325662 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :where everything could be a function < 1434757928 430429 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just rewrote the lexer < 1434757939 71168 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly < 1434757943 467074 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to actually map stuff < 1434758109 476558 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done! < 1434758187 821559 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I write an arithmetic library for Table and add it to the esolangs page? < 1434758481 284315 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434758525 917458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect it should be OK to do so < 1434758550 77639 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1434758699 420501 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I denote else in Table? < 1434758706 455786 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just use Else, I guess < 1434758857 560163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43238&oldid=43044 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+111) 10Added arithmetic library < 1434758866 81040 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't need else < 1434758870 462474 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434758909 990219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43239&oldid=43238 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-1) 10Fixed comment < 1434759089 838682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43240&oldid=43239 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+70) 10Fixed addition to use predecessor, added multiplication < 1434759198 21223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43241&oldid=43240 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+109) 10 < 1434759305 734125 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, kinda works < 1434759329 388989 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know :/ < 1434759341 98271 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434759347 380149 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd be the proper way to reference the arguments for a function in Table? < 1434759349 52471 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was gonna create something like pfil < 1434759352 397023 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1434759371 95375 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there arent any functions in Table, so there are no arguments and that is why it isnt turing complete < 1434759383 664935 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434759404 794855 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that the setup in the first table program was functions < 1434759419 380890 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, after defining "and" you could use and in a following function < 1434759449 194703 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1434759455 819781 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@186-95-37-100.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434759464 212898 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea of making a function version, but itd be a lot like pfil < 1434759495 184696 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that you already have functions in the current one < 1434759502 595127 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or could very easily < 1434759603 965306 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Table could become a really useful language < 1434759623 567064 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to move my interpreter over to The Glorious Republic < 1434759640 776634 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1434759653 67238 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's esoteric more like Haskell than like Brainfuck < 1434759662 375893 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434759678 934704 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could make a derivative and call it Function or Data or something < 1434759687 763586 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or T++ < 1434759691 486115 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table++ < 1434759694 463983 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434759720 586412 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know python? < 1434759743 481852 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1434759747 954424 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1434759791 435880 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should we start on S(Table)? < 1434759795 365034 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that name < 1434759799 922468 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Successor(Table) < 1434759817 172691 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1434759821 394997 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could call it Peano < 1434759904 541397 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? No? < 1434760076 514843 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1434760076 700244 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that name < 1434760086 729847 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant we just call it Function? < 1434760100 493754 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell isn't called Functions < 1434760117 621154 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Table is more about Tables than about functions < 1434760138 714672 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@186-95-37-100.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434760161 358270 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434760203 160107 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I see whatever we call this Table derivative as an actual, used language < 1434760224 896252 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Peano is an AWESOME name < 1434760285 159925 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND it sounds like a name for a language people actually use :P < 1434760309 119811 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1434760319 59917 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1434760334 201979 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome! < 1434760447 796692 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c900:1378:a79f:3bb5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellooooo < 1434760464 692378 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1434760738 60993 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434761104 905753 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434761211 754635 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1434761227 728467 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :naah < 1434761241 724613 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1434761252 861595 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's such a good name... < 1434761256 998674 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1434761275 496402 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you suggest? And "Function" is a bad name < 1434761297 189956 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too generic < 1434761360 431881 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not the name thats bothering me < 1434761363 688774 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its... < 1434761386 472073 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that Peano had nothing to do with it? < 1434761392 608715 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1434761393 858474 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1434761405 363843 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1434761419 191457 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434761422 292480 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what is it? < 1434761493 413498 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1434761494 929421 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1434761506 243500 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1434761514 338748 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should it be called? < 1434761531 456762 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfil < 1434761540 406674 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it insn't imperative < 1434761558 4428 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're discussing the Table derivative, right? < 1434761574 73518 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1434761582 767746 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont want to make it < 1434761590 77874 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :its too...idk...not unique < 1434761601 963900 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1434761607 934554 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the one implementing Table < 1434761614 10994 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's pretty awesome < 1434761627 731559 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar to haskell only as far as python is similar to java < 1434761823 410299 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he...hehe... < 1434761830 252993 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434761841 190657 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC? < 1434761881 949796 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already made that one < 1434761997 477231 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1434762002 574297 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want you to take a look at it < 1434762027 737616 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I particularly like folder < 1434762074 104777 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to implement PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC? < 1434762372 971320 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to take that as a yes < 1434762444 850238 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I have to make it so programs can look like PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC or can I split by spaces? < 1434762493 593816 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the article < 1434762514 391544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC < 1434762520 188600 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it < 1434762539 478792 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do scripts have to be able to look like PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC < 1434762558 793754 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didnt read the article did you < 1434762564 305184 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1434762853 171347 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make a slight modification that stays inline with the language? < 1434762859 556268 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variables can only be one letter < 1434762871 364243 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR obfuscation < 1434762881 388870 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to be that way < 1434762888 258963 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd be easier for me to implement < 1434762971 878466 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434763040 156945 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables... exist in PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC? < 1434763051 459571 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the article again < 1434763083 607868 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434763107 221230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434763118 877002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship/friendship wisdom < 1434763123 49332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434763124 413977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodad/Doodads are just duoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1434763266 266060 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434763271 73858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434763341 43402 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdhellococ. helloppavilion1. shellochaf. < 1434763360 949817 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't friendship supposed to be something about singing graphs, la la la ♪? < 1434763462 546997 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is there a channel where I can talk about constructed human language (Esperanto for example) < 1434763484 810876 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least this one hth < 1434763513 803486 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you conlang? < 1434763722 502410 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1434764727 190206 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :δ < 1434764745 414825 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434764760 923896 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? δ < 1434764761 640056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​δ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764767 437330 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434764768 897429 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: δ? < 1434764769 318010 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delta < 1434764770 109234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :delta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764775 903790 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? difference < 1434764776 732290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :difference? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764782 477211 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? derivative < 1434764783 149833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivative? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764784 335764 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434764788 244241 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slope < 1434764789 77280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slope? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764792 395566 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tangent < 1434764793 97191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tangent? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764793 983139 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oe m gee < 1434764798 468072 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sine < 1434764799 301630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434764804 512570 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god it's a nightmare < 1434764813 462786 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :δ < 1434764831 999878 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: what is twh? < 1434764855 164169 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn sine sin(e) =0.410781290502908695476009492018360591888306970393415345304571... < 1434764862 212843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sine': sine sin(e) =0.410781290502908695476009492018360591888306970393415345304571... < 1434764870 222699 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sine < 1434764870 814086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sine: not found < 1434764873 655712 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sine < 1434764874 481735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine sin(e) =0.410781290502908695476009492018360591888306970393415345304571... < 1434764944 866030 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1434764951 522637 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FINISHED MY PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC LEXER! < 1434764988 717115 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ ding ♪ this is a public service announcement. please note that updates to the Wisdom will resume on... Monday... June... Twenty... Two Thousand Fifteen... at the earliest. thanks for your understanding. d'autres messages suivront. < 1434765065 870410 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN ONLY 56 LINES OF CODE (I <3 PYTHON!)! < 1434765092 264304 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1434765230 371004 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :↓→↑ < 1434765312 283993 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: python's quite nice indeed. < 1434765320 98786 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: you are being unicodish hth. < 1434765350 109304 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434765353 55089 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicodish? < 1434765372 868560 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's unicode < 1434765375 199718 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're using it < 1434765381 937073 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor you are being unicodish < 1434765391 446277 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the lexer done < 1434765392 546045 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :captain obvious → me < 1434765639 735042 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434765644 932184 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, < 1434765671 965761 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :delta conlang. ∆me = -∆you < 1434765889 906125 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c900:1378:a79f:3bb5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434766276 275103 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434766319 696509 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434766326 88111 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jsut restarted my browser < 1434766331 372870 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you said anything I missed it < 1434766333 773979 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ < 1434766578 248135 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1434766595 586506 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :got tummyache... ow... < 1434766661 625742 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1434766718 471101 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is PARI strictly bound to SWITCH VAR CASE VAL GOTO LINE... syntax? < 1434766723 9737 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can you nest switches? < 1434766734 410643 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please say no please say no please say no) < 1434766752 330552 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1434766779 92156 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1434766831 729101 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does the program crash if it fails to find an appropriate case? < 1434766876 186791 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there's a 'ELSE GOTO LINE' at the end of each instruction so < 1434766881 253205 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434766887 770647 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I assumed that wasn't required < 1434766897 460663 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's necessary or the program is invalid? < 1434766898 330666 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... well... < 1434766917 806141 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so? < 1434766930 965824 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434766936 101036 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That complicates things a little < 1434766938 120931 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's fine < 1434766959 195192 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant thats neccessary < 1434766962 362410 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :necessary* < 1434766967 668250 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434766975 871699 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what complicates things < 1434766984 929891 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1434766987 503829 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ensuring that it ends with a valid else statement < 1434766995 690256 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1434767003 20047 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not by _much_ < 1434767432 822814 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another thing to work on < 1434767440 85872 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric Markup Languages < 1434767535 671589 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: You there? < 1434767658 202027 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one called TTML (teletype markup lanuge) it's on the wiki < 1434767702 314887 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1434767747 528231 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not quite what I wanted < 1434767844 926591 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434767914 295809 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434767922 967114 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one that I want to write: < 1434767925 255889 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTPL < 1434767930 434823 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HyperText Programming Language < 1434767943 479265 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since HTML is often mistaken for a programming language, why not make it one? < 1434767944 607982 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434768113 137528 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434769127 403808 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434769209 639886 :hppavilion1!8b37044a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.55.4.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434769557 583009 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: PRINTED CHICKEN < 1434770675 775483 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:61f4:f41e:eac1:11ae QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434770701 213964 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434771816 406408 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434772284 52580 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c900:1378:a79f:3bb5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434773066 353927 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434773066 573588 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434775723 145127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434777561 273964 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434778543 119324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434778599 338400 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434779107 878424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/eurovision < 1434779125 795021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull oerjan < 1434779146 932689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/eurovision < 1434779149 12849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/eurovision < 1434779239 86465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -remove wisdom/eurovision | paste < 1434779242 354091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.26702 \ abort: unknown revision 'emove'! < 1434779255 670743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --remove wisdom/eurovision | paste < 1434779259 125219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.27643 < 1434779390 511615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders how HackEgo's do-everything-twice workflow interacts with paste < 1434779409 814002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it create two files, only one of which gets committed? < 1434779504 198411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sine < 1434779505 156781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine sin(e) =0.410781290502908695476009492018360591888306970393415345304571... < 1434779514 834993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/sine < 1434779516 389407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434779565 274311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has limited patience with people who cannot use `learn correctly. < 1434779572 511495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or `le/rn, for that matter. < 1434780200 424492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A ridicule is a tiny particle composed of bad jokes. < 1434780202 314819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ridicule': A ridicule is a tiny particle composed of bad jokes. < 1434782608 996891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Darmok14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43242&oldid=43233 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+267) 10Sorry < 1434782671 949945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43243&oldid=43229 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10/* D */ Ho hum < 1434783087 655599 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434783179 146694 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434783244 329571 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last bug? < 1434783247 205561 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what < 1434783445 734946 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1434783603 219736 :Edit!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434783603 432053 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434783639 470154 :Edit!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah disconnects < 1434783804 193035 :Edit!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1434783819 932607 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434783836 508511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: in his program < 1434783845 162647 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah I see < 1434783856 680208 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having internet troubles < 1434783947 470817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet: nothing but trouble since 1982 < 1434783984 875814 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1434783990 660220 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1434784147 923667 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434784155 973746 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 4 in 1982 so I wouldn't know exactly < 1434784693 136502 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket 6.2 released < 1434785079 872106 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two types of people: 1) Those, who start their indices with 1 1) Those, who start their indices with 0. < 1434785120 156135 :password2!~password@197.77.75.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434785224 81417 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no laugh < 1434785226 292833 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny < 1434785239 494484 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- you're a bunch of unfunny nerds < 1434785276 628113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a cream pie at izabera  < 1434785293 587885 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i needed it < 1434785311 679324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (0) that jokes is _so_ old (2) i was browsing something else < 1434785315 736008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*joke < 1434785345 491517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that kind of < 1434785351 605990 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things. < 1434785357 22336 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors. < 1434785384 684978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't laugh, i'll keep going < 1434785412 579922 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :next will be jokes about the binary system < 1434785435 787178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are three hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, off-by-one errors, and ruthless efficiency. < 1434785458 21913 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this means war < 1434785508 218204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly notices izabera's nick looks suspiciously spanish. what have i done? < 1434785514 688950 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1434785518 914683 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434785521 495427 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1434785530 634669 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it look japaneseish < 1434785533 285662 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks* < 1434785548 94392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish, i say. < 1434785558 364701 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even speak spanish < 1434785564 870698 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1434785566 342541 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :toro < 1434785568 133182 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tortilla < 1434785574 115115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually google thinks it's basque, means aunt. < 1434785589 477117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's still mostly in spain, for now. < 1434785613 420460 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera is how you write isabella in katakana < 1434785632 145810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i see that if i force google translate to try with japanese < 1434785767 854480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes his "ruthless efficiency" was off-by-one, it should have been "an almost fanatical devotion to the pope" < 1434786945 60162 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The naming-things thing? We need a better name for that. < 1434787266 766134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the verbinator hth < 1434787939 952372 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434788216 908860 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434788553 336045 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434789129 876339 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434789312 958951 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434790765 14375 :password2!~password@197.77.75.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434791719 817010 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434792427 492159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1434792467 661942 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434792655 604910 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good day, sir < 1434792835 546771 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm...hi...? < 1434792947 574321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be working with Apache Thrift very soon, so I need to work out what Apache Thrift is < 1434792954 867662 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434793015 731785 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1434793125 236345 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a sort of layer for communicating between two different programming languages < 1434793137 561790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, someone asks a question innocently, to which someone else replies that it's complicated and there are entire books written on research about just that one question. that's always funny. < 1434793159 168551 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a universal way of defining data types < 1434793167 837854 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1434793168 960486 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :("universal", it supports around 20 languages) < 1434793177 930906 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...umm...okay? < 1434793192 147816 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can write your datatype declarations in Thrift and it generates C, Java, Haskell, whatever < 1434793205 695882 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thrift.apache.org/ < 1434793231 434857 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1434793248 630937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah, I have those kinds of things. serializers that are supposed to serialize and deserialize any kind of data, or universal wrappers that are supposed to wrap any function or class to call from another language. I hate them. < 1434793283 112514 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, any particular reason? < 1434793302 76961 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, just use a single language for it all < 1434793347 856134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the specifics of how the data is used have to be taken into account, and save/load functions and foreign wrappers should be written partly by hand, and even if you use some general framework for it, you should use lots of annotations about specifics for them so you can control all the details. < 1434793381 527459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't think the universal serializers are a good idea, because different languages have very different ideas about how data should be represented to be usable well. < 1434793404 820174 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PFIL article is empty... < 1434793432 909892 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, using a single language is often undesirable, different languages are better for different things < 1434793489 304749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus also, those serialized representation languages like json and all the more complicated ones almost never seem to be able to represent both character strings and byte arrays, even though I think both of those are important. And many of them don't even have sensible ways to represent numbers. < 1434793505 372178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's even before you get into automatic serialization of data structures into them. < 1434793537 127154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, yes, it is a little problematic like that (your first point), but I think that often things like this are a quick solution and that is all that is needed < 1434793544 513121 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thrift seems to do numbers nicely :) < 1434793563 98943 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, exactly, which is why automatically wrapping between them is useless. If you try to force a common data representation and function call system on multiple languages, you LOSE most of the important advantages of the different languages in first place. < 1434793625 497170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: those wrapper stuffs works when someone invents a supposedly "revolutionary new programming language" that's actually just C or java or ruby with slightly different syntax, and then is lazy to port libraries to it, so wraps the corresponding C or java or ruby libraries to it in a straightforward way, which just proves that his language doesn't really do anything new. < 1434793693 425827 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, Thrift seems quite nice and not failing the failures you seem to find common, but I am just learning it and do not have much experience in this area so I cannot really explain satisfactorily < 1434793713 587048 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, numbers aren't _always_ bad, numbers are actually probably a case where you can make wrapping possible, because there's only like a few dozen useful ways to represent numbers in both languages, so you can write conversion to each of the at most few hundred pairs of them that is ever useful. < 1434793765 495941 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: welcome to the channel for revolutionary new programming language design and deployment < 1434793781 217071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, but they aren't even always esoteric < 1434793801 220602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, sometimes the intention is to build a practical language < 1434793805 455859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Thrift was originally designed for Facebook's internal needs so has the features they wanted and has good support for the languages they were using at the time < 1434793872 764750 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1434793907 474046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well, designing the system for a particular well-defined use case is at least a plus. If you have a particular need for wrappers or serializers or frameworks, sure, go on. But don't expect me to believe that it's some sort of universal silver bullet for a very general task. < 1434793930 959326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I didn't intend to < 1434794037 626419 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434794063 144369 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for a very general task" said every programming language ever < 1434794097 612168 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silver bullets, ideal for shooting one's foot < 1434794129 76126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: huh? why would I do that, I'm not specifically vulnerable to silver, so an ordinary bullet would work. < 1434794217 486617 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be a waste of silver, too. < 1434794263 179609 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah use a dirt bullet instead < 1434794304 40975 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because there's no reason to shoot b_jonas) < 1434794329 320602 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, why not shoot everyone else too?) < 1434794364 909019 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why shoot anyone?) < 1434794387 346679 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why not?) < 1434794417 626105 :password2!~password@197.77.85.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434794433 994106 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would advocate against shooting everyone < 1434794448 11491 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you? < 1434794476 768746 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Seconded. < 1434794493 917053 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, it tends to annoy a lot of people < 1434794507 405241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who might try and shoot you first or throw you in jail or something < 1434794508 279927 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... < 1434794531 375377 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hurts them, too. < 1434794531 559225 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434794532 968243 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol... < 1434794556 127912 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you think I didn't know that? why would I shoot anybody? I never said I wanted to... < 1434794599 681942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Not shooting people, the new up-and-coming trend < 1434794630 564607 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1434794651 355339 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trend? < 1434794666 818976 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1434794956 29176 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fashion < 1434795518 500278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these spammers should learn some Hungarian. they send machine-translated scam messages (mostly email account related phishing) that have terrible machine translated text < 1434795558 29024 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When shooting people becomes fashionable... the world will be mad... < 1434795591 833835 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, feminism is already fashionable, and I dont like that < 1434795610 85149 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I absolutely hate feminism for claiming to be equal, yet only solving one gender's problems < 1434795640 816120 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c900:1378:a79f:3bb5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434795708 91706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, the airline is sending me ads to buy extras for the airplane tickets I bought, with crazy text like “Do you have everything prepared for your journey?” I don't, duh, because it's still months away, I'm not in a hurry. < 1434795730 130843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I buy stuff now when I can do it later as I decide on the details? < 1434795742 246416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm visiting Sweden in August < 1434796334 822107 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434796950 730474 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434797359 29815 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434797411 319478 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434797607 894867 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be clear, when Americans say “Eastern time”, that means the USA/New York time zone, the one that's -04:00 in the summer, right? < 1434798039 379417 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :google it < 1434798055 799280 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1434798182 896110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: I did better, I checked timeanddate.com , but "Eastern time" is so ambiguous and used for like five timezones that I can never be sure < 1434798199 531533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eastern time (North America)" would be fine, but I'm reading a note that says "Eastern time" only < 1434798214 875267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's from either an American or a Canadian < 1434798386 734122 :YokeOfIdea!~yokeofide@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434798455 576913 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :write back to them asking to clarify < 1434798540 727069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: no, I'll look up the same info from other sources instead < 1434798556 2522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a one-one-one meeting request, but a public event < 1434798574 570479 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434798613 598570 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434799232 689403 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, thinking about it, I think EST refers specifically to GMT-5 < 1434799259 554264 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Eastern Time... < 1434799263 807370 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah, this is ambiguous < 1434799268 576876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's either GMT-5 or -4 < 1434799272 838774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd show up early and bring a book < 1434799364 165929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly in the summer, as in very soon, so it's summer time < 1434799439 7938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, north america has a few territories that don't use DST at all, right? < 1434799484 943218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434801179 460031 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434801972 971480 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Asterisks 5* 10New user account < 1434802071 535703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43244&oldid=43187 5* 03Asterisks 5* (+4) 10/* General languages */ < 1434802219 168352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43245&oldid=43244 5* 03Asterisks 5* (+36) 10/* General languages */ < 1434802360 519604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07*14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43246 5* 03Asterisks 5* (+161) 10Simply Asterisks < 1434802396 614674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07*14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43247&oldid=43246 5* 03Asterisks 5* (+6) 10 < 1434803960 641556 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434805073 545564 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434805613 561485 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434806700 375533 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434807102 214395 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-36-25.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1434807218 593143 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434807984 396245 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434808051 594516 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434808319 875892 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434808529 257651 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434808576 534637 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434808594 578070 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434808594 791830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1434808801 930485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434809089 268380 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody know how newtypes were represented in haskell before System FC? >.> < 1434809594 535641 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wtrcfnfrwkbnkqxk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434809615 833688 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, in GHC i mean < 1434809646 853634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1434809649 412694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce? < 1434809712 536703 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434810105 964018 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-36-25.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434811113 779240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unsafeCoerce < 1434811123 337452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434811138 607096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434811139 874056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad/Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1434811143 680801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434811144 643888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb/Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1434811189 69727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote copumpkin terminal < 1434811189 284165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1434811223 784397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: dunno, as newtypes are mostly the same as strict data (which I think haskell compilers have anyway), except for some deriving rules, I just assumed they're always represented as strict data < 1434811539 856099 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434811540 767185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake/The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1434811549 993455 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434811550 972991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m&ndash;rdalsj&ouml;kull/M&ndash;rdalsj&ouml;kull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base. < 1434811563 367420 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a weird one... < 1434811575 364635 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1434811575 693090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 201421Z 25009G15KT 10SM BKN023 28/22 A3007 RMK AO2 < 1434811583 274407 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1434811583 527502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 201400Z 00000KT 30SM FEW050 BKN240 16/07 A3010 RMK CU1CI5 CU TR SLP192 < 1434811590 536310 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. 28 is draconic enough. < 1434811685 189630 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434811686 67605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpun/funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. < 1434811695 602840 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1434811697 579806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashapprea < 1434811697 934133 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i thought strict data needed an actual container to match on? < 1434811700 480226 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10 < 1434811701 977384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vastre prophy dispel shiberwher sphospi loro lutterin rome jdgeme commetalome < 1434811719 107737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: hmm… I dunno < 1434811736 227480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: if it's strict data, would it have a container? wouldn't it be represented as just a struct of its members? < 1434811750 746824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does that not work well with the runtime system for passing it to functions? < 1434811751 168709 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i mean < 1434811762 457233 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think newtypes are actually contained within anything < 1434811794 361828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but if it has no extras, just _one_ member, then what difference does that effectively have at runtime from holding that single value without a container? < 1434811830 884797 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the runtime system has to be able to handle non-boxed values, and pass them to functions, anyway < 1434811843 780452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's necessary for other optimizations, such as unboxed numbers < 1434811858 252105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you want a real answer, ask on #haskell or #ghc or something < 1434811870 875845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't know haskell enough < 1434811874 178829 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ask oren here or something < 1434811894 82646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the other haskell guy, there's a lot of them here for some reason, it's as if they thought Haskell was… < 1434811937 564866 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434811976 200194 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we think that Haskell is a practical, accessible, serious and effective programming language < 1434812032 627849 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we need more weird DSLs, like the reverse state transformer monad... < 1434812081 670322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it certainly has a good serious non-esoteric compiler at least < 1434812238 144692 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC a newtype specifically means that there is no wrapper: The runtime representation is exactly the same as the contained type, and the constructor and projection become identity functions. < 1434812279 520846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the intent, but the Report hardly talks about runtime representations enough to specify it precisely. < 1434812282 747753 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not exactly: they may still have different typeclass dictionaries. < 1434812352 219424 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typeclass dictionaries are separate objects. < 1434812503 766590 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434812612 367001 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434813057 940555 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434813384 798348 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodness sake < 1434813395 575150 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a language called Polynomial but it already exists < 1434813429 464630 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1434813431 878781 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea < 1434813468 685046 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434813502 591112 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have an idea? < 1434813512 852156 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program p is a function that takes input i and returns program q and output o. < 1434813542 774802 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in a video game program, when you take one step to the right, you get transferred to another program created on the fly in which you're one step to the right. < 1434813570 157983 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... isnt that just an FSA??? < 1434813630 90408 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk anymore < 1434813837 209294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be like a FSA except with infinite states < 1434813842 954799 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1434813845 748194 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on how the programs are constructed < 1434813849 847211 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1434813855 382697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could make it any number of complexities < 1434813856 851954 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea that programs were formulae < 1434813887 641552 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a program in my idea would have to be a formula that returns output and another formula (that returns output and another formula which returns ... and so on) < 1434813981 6581 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, programs could just map a single input to a single output for ease < 1434814048 114978 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e JOIN :#esoteric < 1434814630 797218 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :x is cat function < 1434814638 183962 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^2 is square cat function < 1434814738 618275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"square cat" < 1434815005 57980 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a square cat < 1434815024 29219 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you put in 8, square cat says 64. < 1434815036 472455 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you put in 'nutella' < 1434815045 6947 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... umm... < 1434815049 506858 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get vegemite, scoofy < 1434815085 108971 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :10000, duh, number of calories in a tablespoon of nutella squared. < 1434815100 51157 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: CONGLOMERATE CHICKEN < 1434815117 925028 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you use the call-by-caloric-value evaluation strategy < 1434815185 222646 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1434815221 335747 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^3 is cube cat... < 1434815304 940429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about x^7 + 2x^4 + x^3 - x - 2? < 1434815379 170077 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: cat? but aren't functions actually birds? < 1434815425 943905 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, functions which take functions as arguments and emit functions are < 1434815435 682885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect these are different < 1434815444 600062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't all functions like that, in that universe? < 1434815459 235754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, numbers are represented by birds too < 1434815462 195397 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434815467 476012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by the name of birds at least < 1434815470 333251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore some birds are in fact cats < 1434815564 312803 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This must be what they mean by polymorphism < 1434815581 768930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but cats are a more violent representation of birds. birds take the argument in the form of a call with the other bird's name, whereas cats _eat_ birds < 1434815598 180795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think cats aren't birds, but they're a different way to represent some birds < 1434815618 747929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cats usually don't eat other cats < 1434815630 929657 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1434815650 824146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :toot < 1434815657 814418 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some birds eat birds < 1434815734 161668 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cats eat birds < 1434815770 388225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and cats also eat rats or canned food made of birds < 1434815771 378820 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: so far, your programming language is simply the collection of all polynomials. < 1434815863 330804 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434815867 121142 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Is there a polynomial function in the ring of integers modulo 10, which takes on the value 1 at 0, and 0 at all other inputs? < 1434815884 957022 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The polynomial (1 - x)(2 - x)(3 - x)...(9 - x) doesn't work. < 1434815907 104313 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one's 0 at 0 despite not having (0 - x) as an obvious factor. < 1434815945 447906 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, just use interpolation duh < 1434815955 783544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what? no it's not < 1434815961 115302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434815965 623171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring of integers modulo 10 < 1434815968 87266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1434816043 140115 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can approximate it - and any other periodical function like sine, cosine, etcetera < 1434816122 957851 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, it needs a constant factor of 1 < 1434816842 259254 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only exists for prime moduli (and then, it seems that the only polynomial is (n-1)x^(n-1)). < 1434818566 854270 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434818653 136752 :password2!~password@197.77.85.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434818895 910834 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434819018 711911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434819026 801332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton/A funciton is the number of burgers to eat when I get one. < 1434819035 127539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434819037 54978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :el camino real/There is no royal road to analytic geometry. < 1434819063 350882 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a royal road to other parts of mathematics? < 1434819082 875758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thedoghousediaries.com/ would be better without the third panel < 1434819116 787362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there should be a 'camino real' entry and a symlink from 'el camino real' for consistency. < 1434819182 511847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434819183 407414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon/The Moon is an unprovable celestial object that is not very retroreflectorey. < 1434819197 518988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't think there's a royal road to any sort of geometry. < 1434819210 173570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: But analytic geometry deals with the reals, presumably. < 1434819265 812823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i don't get it hth < 1434819292 787923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently Antiques Roadshow is a television show. Maybe I would get it if I watched the show. < 1434819341 181174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no the tv show is irrelevant I think. or maybe that's what would make the third panel funny, I don't know. < 1434819370 888308 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heared of such tv shows (and even seen a few ten minutes of one). < 1434819387 923468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434819388 915796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrow/Arrows are just strong monads in the category of profunctors. < 1434819393 33817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434819394 498244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c#/C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1434819443 841101 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stupidity < 1434819444 554194 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: stupidity: not found < 1434819474 163712 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dumbidiotsaysnotfound < 1434819474 808136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dumbidiotsaysnotfound: not found < 1434819482 833695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop. < 1434819492 205616 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... < 1434819529 754972 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the difference between you saying `wisdom all the time and me saying stuff beginning with ` all the time? < 1434819575 522597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you already know the results of your things, which is an error. Every time I say `wisdom we get a new entry (though I probably do overdo it). < 1434819583 12896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the things you said were mean and insulting. < 1434819593 502607 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I knew David Madore was very good in writing his blog articles to explain his thoughts well, but this long coherent sentence is brilliant. < 1434819611 969625 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... sorry, didn't know a bot had feelings... sarcasm.end; < 1434819635 759850 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you just need to wise up a little bit. < 1434819641 301749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long sentence with a complicated nested composed structure, but it manages to hold together perfectly parseable in first try with very few extra glue particulars. < 1434819668 921271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“D'autant plus que ce n'était pas tellement le résultat du calcul qui m'intéressait, et dont je suis totalement certain qu'il est connu depuis Klein, Cayley, Clebsch ou, au pire, Segre, et qu'il figure dans quantité de livres ou d'articles, mais d'y arriver moi-même, et de façon systématique, sans essayer de « deviner » le résultat (qui, a posteriori, était éminemment devinable), bref, de vérifier que je savais mener ce calcul à bien.” < 1434819711 767608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I learnt to write so well, I could write my damned thesis easily. < 1434819729 175447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :He manages to do that with complicated mathematical content in a popular way too. < 1434819772 973970 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should put more skill points in this, even though it's cross class for me. < 1434819816 769804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that sentence so good that I should learn French to understand it? < 1434819818 672981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing well requires a check with bonus from which attribute? Charisma? < 1434819826 52645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not for that sentence, no < 1434819859 98838 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, either CHA or WIS < 1434819864 741174 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably CHA < 1434819871 223701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wis? why Wis? < 1434819882 143114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wis is for perception and for strength of will. < 1434819901 294958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, for more than that actually. I don't really know because it's a dump stat for me. < 1434819909 527058 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for knowing the right thing to do < 1434819928 602208 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that might be a good description. < 1434819932 389464 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't understand the sentence... but the keyword "Klein" suggests a relation to mathematical spaces... < 1434820023 867715 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a good description because it explains why strength of will and perception of the outside world can come together in a single attribute so well. < 1434820076 806254 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the ring of integers modulo 10, is x^5 always equal to x? < 1434820120 129903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434820126 816258 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434820128 777071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 5^~i.10 < 1434820129 124556 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 0 1 32 243 1024 3125 7776 16807 32768 59049 < 1434820132 784802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 10|5^~i.10 < 1434820133 131889 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 < 1434820139 708416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] (i.10)-:10|5^~i.10 < 1434820140 19407 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 1 < 1434820145 832540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes < 1434820206 643174 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434820237 852869 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So certainly not all functions are polynomial functions. < 1434820256 622968 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of polynomial functions is only... 10^5? < 1434820271 766259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 10|4^~i.10 < 1434820272 124675 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 0 1 6 1 6 5 6 1 6 1 < 1434820296 25243 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey look, it's... those. < 1434820310 115719 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1434820310 291355 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1434820317 113931 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a word for a number x such that x^2 = x. < 1434820331 797763 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadratic repricorewfwief or something < 1434820457 74396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \S+core\b < 1434820459 826813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :215) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (-)*10000 <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 12.9 <Vorpal> yay \ 216) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (++-)*1000000 <Vorpal> probably will suck <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 30.4 <Vorpal> what \ 223) <Deewiant> !bfjoust sm3 < <EgoBot> Score for Deewiant_sm3: 43.4 \ 1064) <kmc> are you a hardcore PC gamer Sgeo_ <Sgeo_> Want < 1434820486 523530 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust < 1434820486 739878 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust <program name> <program> . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1434820521 593656 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \S{3,}core\b < 1434820522 344791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1064) <kmc> are you a hardcore PC gamer Sgeo_ <Sgeo_> Want to be < 1434821148 442721 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww ok < 1434821161 736535 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if instead we used something like fourier did? < 1434821182 597060 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3sin(3x + 2) - 3 or something < 1434821209 147110 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think sin is well-defined in Z/10Z < 1434821220 323559 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, fourier series < 1434821242 469781 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote field < 1434821243 55579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :267) <zzo38> elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones. \ 401) <Taneb> Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once. \ 452) <zzo38> Pythagoras was < 1434821251 199933 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are infinitely many polynomial functions because you can just keep adding terms and stuff < 1434821283 30820 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are infinitely many polynomials but only so many polynomial functions < 1434821291 977047 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1434821295 684868 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the difference? < 1434821330 497971 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some polynomials define the same function (in some rings) < 1434821338 89664 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :right...... < 1434821349 602269 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :As was pointed out earlier, x^5 = x in Z/10Z < 1434821372 146845 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, there are only 10^10 functions from Z/10Z to Z/10Z < 1434821401 930520 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is Z/10Z? < 1434821408 965716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434821430 813142 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh integers modulo 10 I think? < 1434821440 636007 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1434821443 378270 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, it is a notation for a group isomorphic to integers modulo 10 < 1434821451 431878 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ring, even < 1434821455 511698 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I say I wanted this Z/10Z stuff? < 1434821477 967340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, no, I was thinking of a conversation which happened in between < 1434821478 755169 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1434821586 626406 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1434821671 467340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, disregard what I said then (although it may be interesting in its own right) < 1434822330 647850 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust fracko >([-]----->)*40000 < 1434822333 90829 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for tswett_fracko: 8.0 < 1434822409 777077 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the jousting field is that long. < 1434822425 44186 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody knows for sure. < 1434822646 955222 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I imagine the hill just keeps the top 48 or something. < 1434822741 192429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows what for sure? < 1434822785 238187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how long the jousting field is < 1434822791 910772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's three miles < 1434822814 606304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose, in an abstract theoretical way < 1434822836 709901 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that it's infinitely long, but only on one side < 1434822893 397916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is rubbish, clearly once you pass the flags you fall off onto the turtle the field sits on hth < 1434822933 159786 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, competitive turtles < 1434822941 679365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434822942 660063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt/lmt is insufficiently mad for this channel. < 1434822956 862478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen lmt < 1434822957 38212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lM7 < 1434822962 906729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1434822971 613786 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oerjan < 1434822971 789516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0erJ4n < 1434822983 522577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think int-e must have disabled it again < 1434822991 392378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet now it's this < 1434822991 607967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No\/\/ i+'$ 7HIs < 1434823025 41090 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/bfjoust < 1434823025 587982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1434823051 413216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i recall he came by sometime in the last months < 1434823062 86010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434823063 53398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pdf/PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format. < 1434823066 288842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfjoust < 1434823067 244526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1434823099 684300 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose a competitive turtle game would proceed like lightcycle racing < 1434823104 542964 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For every collection of turtles, there is a turtle not in the collection. < 1434823114 164883 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, consider the collection of all turtles. < 1434823119 32574 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a turtle not in that collection. < 1434823136 446235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find your proof incomplete hth < 1434823148 841735 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't a proof. < 1434823267 375570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434823268 826071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goat/Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. < 1434823270 374758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit accidentally typed an n into a tatham puzzle < 1434823281 827344 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, so I see that my bfjoust program isn't very effective. < 1434823287 570012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf doesn't it allow undo past n < 1434823302 36162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that that helps with q, which should be eviscerated) < 1434823324 414292 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something something open source < 1434823369 244889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's such a stupid thing to do that it must be willfully designed. < 1434823397 283243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stubbornly kept. < 1434823399 779418 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the days when firefox mapped ^Q to quit < 1434823436 806237 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on most keyboards, it's next to ^W) < 1434823461 942412 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwerty < 1434823465 64147 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-Q is still quit. < 1434823701 243626 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's tatham> < 1434823705 921397 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what's tatham? < 1434823747 38696 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not by default. On linux, firefox gets the ^Q binding from desktop settings. < 1434823803 751730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ < 1434824423 963770 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/js/map.html - with this one, I find myself relatively frequently depending on the fact that there's only one consistent coloring. < 1434824457 450046 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If this region had this color, then this region would be bordered by only two other colors, but that's impossible because there would be two consistent colorings then." < 1434824572 21555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i don't recall ever needing that. < 1434824584 206713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be a shortcut, though. < 1434824606 99694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some puzzles have an option to turn off uniqueness, maybe that does. < 1434824639 397437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly map isn't one of my favorites so i usually don't play it that long < 1434824648 473098 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically, it's never needed. < 1434824805 474442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :.oO( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valiant-Vazirani_theorem ) < 1434824891 739934 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did this .oO( ) thing come from < 1434824911 748124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think int-e is the main perpetrator < 1434825028 302174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION seems to have forgotten the tricks to doing map puzzles again < 1434825356 573154 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Place a tent next to each tree." Well, that sounds easy. < 1434825374 724726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too hard < 1434825389 31150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sometimes < 1434825418 555813 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ₒ∘°˚ᴼ(would you prefer this?) < 1434825479 619981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski is also a perpetrator < 1434825486 737934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it means rougly the same as I,I < 1434825517 501381 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I am just confused by its sudden appearance a few weeks ago < 1434825630 450895 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log \.oO < 1434825631 49271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1434827006 785457 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my logs, it's been around for longer. I can't find a line where int-e uses it, though. < 1434827369 870492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: try with extra spaces < 1434827410 129752 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that nails the perp. < 1434827420 102489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43248&oldid=43109 5* 03Jabutosama 5* (+242) 10/* Ideas for Names */ < 1434827527 577095 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, how is the score of a program on EgoBot's bfjoust hill determined? < 1434827544 936873 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not obvious how "score" and "points" are related. < 1434827911 356703 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupid_bad (>[>>>>[+]])*40000 < 1434827913 877590 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for tswett_stupid_bad: 4.7 < 1434827978 10595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bfjoust < 1434827978 273636 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for bfjoust! < 1434827980 845609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1434827981 66468 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1434827981 291558 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help <command>. < 1434827993 713153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1434827993 951843 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1434828010 622710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph there might not be any obvious pointer to information < 1434828024 237636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's presumably on a github somewhere. < 1434828028 281883 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyb? < 1434828063 400951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fukyorbrane or something like that < 1434828081 191194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck derived game < 1434828092 326745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hm < 1434828103 443039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different one < 1434828149 59187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: from what i recall EgoBot's point -> score updating isn't stateless, unlike zemhill's. < 1434828182 840718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. scores are adjusted from the points somehow, but based on the already existing scores. < 1434828202 157237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a way such that submission order matters. < 1434828229 991536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think the adjustment is linear or something similarly simple.) < 1434828291 440501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill, meanwhile, uses a matrix eigenvector calculation that takes all hill pairing results into account simultaneously. < 1434828319 172689 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust is serious business < 1434828361 337956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill's implementation used to have a serious bug which fizzie may or may not have managed to fix, though. < 1434828376 254925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stemming from the matrix library used.) < 1434828415 178308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well the only people who manage to get on the hills these days are those who treat it as such. < 1434828491 136448 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eigenvector scoring (aka PageRank) isn't that serious. < 1434828519 852908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is being on the hill is a valid point on a cv? < 1434828545 956613 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you want staying on the hill to be part of your employment < 1434828553 982629 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, who knows. < 1434828599 974615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43249&oldid=43248 5* 03Jabutosama 5* (+81) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ < 1434828608 455537 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not part of it, but i do think it's quite the achievement < 1434828614 489042 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Maybe if framed as "Defensive Programming"... < 1434828635 387138 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust best_program_imaginable (>+[[-.]])*40000 < 1434828637 897516 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for tswett_best_program_imaginable: 7.4 < 1434828745 22152 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your jouster isn't defensive < 1434828757 207614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust tswett_best_program_imaginable (>+[[-.]])*40000 < 1434828758 181935 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense. < 1434828779 539010 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess a rusher can be described as "agile") < 1434828793 745848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe zemhill is actually broken. < 1434828917 610736 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, ais523_growth2 and ais523_preparation are apparently really good. < 1434828959 227609 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, ais523_preparation beats *every* program besides ais523_growth2? < 1434829434 64651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ais523 for you. < 1434829540 64005 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like ais523 is good at bfjoust. < 1434829559 862922 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is ais523 good at figuring out how "AA/INI/ZZ/IVI/V" is notation for the trefoil knot? < 1434829591 455585 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, after all, the only thing truly worth figuring out. < 1434829644 950947 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 42 is the answer, right? < 1434829654 273281 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it happens, no. < 1434829711 292750 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have some equations. < 1434829733 885214 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the only thing truly worth figuring out." is relative... < 1434829771 982328 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A/N = A. N/Z = II. IA/NI = AI/IZ. AI/IV = I. Uh, what was that last one. < 1434829787 858138 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, the last one is clear enough. < 1434829796 802395 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then add associativity and identity and there you go. < 1434829802 630656 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the symmetric versions of those rules. < 1434829808 646570 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't forget those. < 1434829826 77938 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434829854 825711 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, we already have enough here to prove that A/IAI/IVI/V = AA/VV. < 1434829863 683031 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha, A/IAI/IVI/V. What a funny expression. < 1434830162 871706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<tswett> Hmm. Is there a polynomial function in the ring of integers modulo 10, which takes on the value 1 at 0, and 0 at all other inputs? <-- i don't think so. because 10 = 2*5, you can quotient down to Z/2Z, so if it's odd at 0, it must be odd at all other even coordinates. < 1434830179 217347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434830186 407046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morphism/A morphism is just a natural transformation between two functors on 1. < 1434830218 517456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1434830241 842069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many wisdoms containing the word "functor" are there? < 1434830268 314000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il functor wisdom | wc -l < 1434830278 673972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1434830325 951460 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1434830369 141739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il categor wisdom | wc -l < 1434830381 659509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 < 1434830382 548965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` egrep -ril '(is|are) just' wisdom | wc -l < 1434830387 211598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 < 1434830394 319028 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434830412 303559 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like a list of all of these < 1434830465 453792 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434830538 805264 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434830678 175682 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434830711 623190 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434830714 955010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the weretswett! < 1434830735 389921 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434830738 543182 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like the idea of fyb < 1434830761 975855 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -Erwim1 '(is|are) just' wisdom | wc -l < 1434830763 880624 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 < 1434830772 602865 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mmjfdjzqwlvqdssu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434830774 779769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a ruder version of syb twh < 1434830793 721874 :notfowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-josbxhnghbrmrcfs JOIN :#esoteric < 1434830874 264250 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a useful language already < 1434831108 698597 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831111 588391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> I don't think sin is well-defined in Z/10Z <-- you'd want to use group characters instead. < 1434831124 179922 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't know characters! < 1434831131 236961 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I will by Christmas, hopefully) < 1434831135 165322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? character < 1434831144 652360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :character? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434831144 875996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1434831173 254225 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831176 562439 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wtrcfnfrwkbnkqxk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831176 562520 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870132 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870209 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-knuynmcxgvvwyeqe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870248 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evwpkrpxyjqdemqr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870264 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831179 870280 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434831187 29959 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mmjfdjzqwlvqdssu NICK :heroux < 1434831195 373616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1. < 1434831200 17526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'character': A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1. < 1434831235 458290 :notfowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-josbxhnghbrmrcfs NICK :fowl < 1434831381 766311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1434831568 565785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric : /win 23 < 1434831572 502861 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grf < 1434831598 224333 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt+d is much better < 1434831615 728606 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bound. < 1434831623 525128 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bind it < 1434831634 420111 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-saraqzlbgkuwdbcx JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831641 580702 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have bound all the way to alt+m < 1434831646 533180 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831768 777569 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434831769 530482 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831783 665237 :notfowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-stwknfjigbsrfmua JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831973 457023 :qlkzy_!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434831996 606908 :izabera_!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832100 754400 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-josbxhnghbrmrcfs QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979228 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979278 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979301 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979327 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-piqrccxccfyjkklq QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979349 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832100 979369 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434832446 129096 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxyyqzynfovjqywv JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832488 623402 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxyyqzynfovjqywv QUIT :Client Quit < 1434832549 908029 :root!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832574 173741 :root!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net NICK :Guest56152 < 1434832576 195000 :Guest56152!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap, am I already in the channel? < 1434832590 696034 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832638 796738 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832647 65467 :Guest56152!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net NICK :oren2 < 1434832669 239996 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn I should have logged out at home before I came up here < 1434832671 197880 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832687 669469 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832695 452883 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832719 837524 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe configured the NAT < 1434832812 496957 :diginet_!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832871 22408 :kenj0!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1434832946 723225 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833033 777331 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1434833037 13280 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :Taneb < 1434833172 682404 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833206 6645 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187558 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187638 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187658 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187675 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187693 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshiimguqzkgujbz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187729 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmjdasrcbhfvhfjh QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187745 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187763 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187779 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833206 187813 :v4s!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833244 148599 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833265 284290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the heck is that story I remember? I can never find anything in this book. I should try to understand it more, but it's difficult. < 1434833319 814732 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833380 875682 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833383 42542 :diginet_!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1434833401 532346 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833424 206304 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833462 984992 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434833519 149671 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833529 684045 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833541 918779 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833558 70877 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-geuctnntmfuwdzwx JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833561 12514 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434833648 806775 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzyyyknkwwpkeapc JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833738 779649 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833766 41299 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvyibexfnxtgsdan JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833840 557610 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833866 277728 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661854 :kenj0!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661929 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-saraqzlbgkuwdbcx QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661945 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mmjfdjzqwlvqdssu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661958 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 661988 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 662001 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 662014 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 662027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434833867 662048 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-geuctnntmfuwdzwx NICK :heroux < 1434833908 74296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833918 994072 :perrier__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833973 114545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1434833992 28393 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434833995 250449 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434833995 449139 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434833995 449212 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434833995 449228 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434833998 849740 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434834011 730008 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434834037 473232 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834051 277417 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e < 1434834100 2723 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834115 333236 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834198 711127 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834234 85504 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834370 446048 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Indeed, I've disabled @seen because I suspect it of leaking memory. < 1434834370 700611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434834377 412980 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834654 818356 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834703 446401 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834735 125882 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ddfapunriguazrit JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834807 420034 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834816 32318 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pragriwtmgesnfsw JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834822 647258 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1434834825 934000 :v4s!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834830 149543 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e < 1434834840 154643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( So Taneb doesn't like my way of thinking?! Pity... ) < 1434834845 780764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434834849 95128 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834855 648443 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvyibexfnxtgsdan QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434834872 643935 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ddfapunriguazrit NICK :mbrcknl < 1434834896 788223 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434834962 899630 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835090 224623 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835093 666769 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835101 237970 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835101 451708 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835101 451782 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835104 293982 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835107 904117 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-geuctnntmfuwdzwx QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835122 337170 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434835122 337228 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pragriwtmgesnfsw NICK :heroux < 1434835188 574833 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835213 735198 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835214 549533 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835458 299699 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434835493 542496 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835550 336019 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835742 760438 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434835743 345552 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434835800 127408 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434835819 691049 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835881 722232 :mhi^_!~mhi@104.131.27.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835904 600292 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e JOIN :#esoteric < 1434835937 303959 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1434836162 778899 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434836164 190832 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434836170 138654 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434836257 450299 :notfowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-stwknfjigbsrfmua NICK :fowl < 1434836679 23484 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434836679 199251 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-169.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1434836679 199307 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434836708 162129 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434836869 4642 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434836932 920252 :izabera_!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izabera < 1434837136 941994 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1434839842 601558 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator < 1434840408 603116 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434841051 970896 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1434841112 229746 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434841351 480000 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434841684 541524 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434842927 410308 :APic\spl1t!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1434843043 2125 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434843745 333037 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434844756 396837 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-thvzjgaekadwgmda JOIN :#esoteric < 1434844990 911071 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434845005 306510 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434845098 887500 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434845141 796659 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1434845493 69116 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Warrighello. back to your old nick? < 1434845524 173680 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett < 1434845529 746318 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What old nick? What are you talking about? < 1434845553 815753 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Changing host < 1434845553 991623 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1434845608 962517 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? warrigal < 1434845609 987379 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434845726 761895 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1434845728 461533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins < 1434845763 313058 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren2. < 1434845771 643758 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the penguins? < 1434845778 872021 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn warrigal/#esoteric's resident dingo. Sometimes pretends to be a human. < 1434845781 551933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «warrigal» < 1434845785 846559 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I live in Antarctica. < 1434845804 192484 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to what one might call (no pun intended) a series of unfortunate events. < 1434845806 603366 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the same oren2 but I forgot to turn off my other computer and can't do so remoterl < 1434845834 938812 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i guess it's fine < 1434845847 181101 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1434845861 178575 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you work in a weather base? < 1434845889 18767 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see, I was born in Australia, and went to school in Finland. A couple of mistakes and corner cases led to my Australian citizenship being terminated while I was only considered a visiting student in Finland. < 1434845912 888335 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an internship working as a mathematician at McMurdo Station in Antarctica. < 1434845922 776687 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My internship finished, and I found that neither country wanted me back. < 1434845943 876652 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here I am. < 1434845975 990683 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How unfortunate. Now you should claim to be an Antarctic citizen. < 1434846086 106479 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to found an Antarctic state while I'm here. < 1434846094 626459 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Republic of Antarctica", which you might have heard of. < 1434846108 466807 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846128 211744 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far we haven't received diplomatic recognition by any country except Switzerland. < 1434846193 397404 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't tell if it's a joke < 1434846351 306574 :oren2!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net NICK :o-rin < 1434846369 450197 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah this one isn't being used < 1434846472 569566 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: uhm. seriously twh? < 1434846483 160756 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1434846484 258224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1434846492 350301 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell~lo~riiin! < 1434846493 251793 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would help? < 1434846507 825035 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1434846509 611272 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1434846515 84190 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: clarifying if you're serious or not. or even if Switzerland is serious or not. < 1434846525 780177 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switzerland is pretty serious. < 1434846541 524081 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-rin: sorry about creatively porthelloing your nick. I can't help but have yuru yuri's opening playing in my head. < 1434846560 549866 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, my resume only mentions locations within the United States, so I'm probably making this all up. < 1434846565 916334 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :今ボアリは < 1434846612 142622 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :はい? < 1434846621 5136 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Democratic_Penguin%27s_Republic_of_Antarctica < 1434846628 442445 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846697 52514 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-rin: oui? que? quoi? mais qu'est-ce? se pourrait-il que? do you beliiiieve in love at first sight ♪ < 1434846721 312142 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846724 521015 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*uses g.t.* "Now Boari is"? < 1434846729 879317 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vihfgadjpmswmsny JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846741 81335 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes. I'm quite confused there. < 1434846752 698844 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-rin: 「ボアリ」って? < 1434846776 79574 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 僕は「ボアリ」です < 1434846842 728060 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :でも発音が「ボイリー」だと思った。 < 1434846850 387729 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846855 523650 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434846865 983218 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-thvzjgaekadwgmda QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434846866 713931 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434846873 184479 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434846873 360200 :APic\spl1t!apic@apic.name QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434846873 360270 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434846873 360291 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434846873 360304 :v4s!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434846873 360317 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ddfapunriguazrit QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434846902 61568 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434846902 276130 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUT8hkJbmEM < 1434846954 229196 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: フランス語で姓です < 1434846964 959220 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :なるほど。 < 1434846975 980871 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうですよ > 1434847110 913073 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847114 969594 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847115 478026 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847153 402306 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847157 450436 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847157 956170 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847189 404617 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847193 456026 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847193 962650 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847225 399656 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847229 449475 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847229 956187 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847267 306603 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847271 357877 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847271 865329 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847333 396499 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847337 445885 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847337 952382 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847369 304367 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847373 356177 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847373 862822 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847405 398181 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847409 448528 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847409 954331 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847441 410585 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847445 466500 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847445 974093 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847505 294796 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847509 345375 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847509 852944 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847570 711214 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847574 763494 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847575 271199 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847614 28117 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847618 81109 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847618 587516 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847657 393666 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847661 452898 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847661 961134 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847713 29057 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847717 80291 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847717 586335 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847765 387350 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847769 436757 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847769 942526 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847801 385947 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847805 436866 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847805 942965 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847845 301809 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847849 349726 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847849 856476 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847888 189930 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847892 238429 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847892 745325 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847921 701290 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847925 753601 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847926 259999 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847960 711678 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847964 760280 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434847965 266428 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434848001 723893 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434848002 917305 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1434848005 774893 JOIN :#esoteric > 1434848006 282134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434848059 700168 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434848163 614124 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434848172 88572 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1434848230 521029 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone out there? < 1434848238 625241 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1434848256 814050 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1434848308 196308 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434848328 430386 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's someone < 1434848341 776091 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a tablet < 1434848357 646917 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my laptop broke :, < 1434848361 316156 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1434848624 280239 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion1! what kind of tablet is it? < 1434848646 641521 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Samsung < 1434848648 51677 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what laptop? how did it break? what's your stance about roast beef? < 1434848652 582680 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hp < 1434848659 760572 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1434848679 549889 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with little piggy #3 < 1434848744 569891 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -wlne'END{print$n}eof&&$n++;/<title>([^<]+)/i&&$n--' * < 1434848791 114555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07A:;14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43250&oldid=39599 5* 0373.184.106.177 5* (+0) 10changed order < 1434849133 618767 :hppavilion1!6b4d5a57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.90.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434849490 268638 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434849560 843991 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E^2 = (mc^2)^2 +(pc^2)^2 is crazy < 1434849891 623206 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an equation. it shouldn't be crazy. Taneb probably has invented it. < 1434850127 395925 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: I conclude that (pc^2)^2 = 0. < 1434850134 140178 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever p is. < 1434850166 782217 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, I thus conclude that p = 0. < 1434850173 527134 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its the full equation or almost complete equation of e = mc^2 < 1434850196 298061 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's not required that p = 0. what if you have a zero divisor? < 1434850211 26378 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then your physics is weird. < 1434850234 290541 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/weird/fun/ < 1434850245 575749 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P = the momentum of the object in question twsett < 1434850354 923712 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and uhm e^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 not pc^2^2 < 1434850360 273269 :hjulle_!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434850367 677150 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I messed up a bit < 1434850512 397 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434850565 56596 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in other words, E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (mvc)^2, where v is the speed of the object, so E^2 = (mc)^2 (c^2 + v^2), so E = mc sqrt(c^2 + v^2). < 1434850567 571075 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1434850581 110839 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434850615 54362 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I made that a bit shorter < 1434850632 243583 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or well Einstein did I just didnt want to type it out < 1434850719 540027 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434850726 10736 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1434850746 622903 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back from what < 1434850763 556133 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lack of inrernet < 1434850776 307017 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are you < 1434850777 145615 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*internet < 1434850779 790513 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I might not be right. I'm assuming that momentum is mass times speed. < 1434850791 404560 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a tablet < 1434850812 630609 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1434850833 910834 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: so is m here the rest mass or the relativistic mass? < 1434850859 383860 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relativistic mass < 1434850870 268740 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's this esolang related? < 1434850898 401892 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, here it is. < 1434850899 9386 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy%E2%80%93momentum_relation < 1434850912 321496 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not genetically related to anyone in the esolang community that I know of < 1434850944 602423 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :E^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2, where m is rest mass, E is total energy, and p is the magnitude of the momentum. < 1434850992 924299 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops yeah I got it wrong < 1434851232 338016 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434851269 499112 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` where is ais523 < 1434851280 270606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: where: command not found < 1434851321 458585 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434851388 291233 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434851455 86953 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm /dev/zero < 1434851455 684813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/dev/zero': Read-only file system < 1434851488 350851 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1434851488 968290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py \ selflink \ < 1434851507 932413 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir ' ' < 1434851508 596171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434851566 89604 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir ' \'; mkdir '\ '; mkdir ' \ ' < 1434851566 656723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434851579 726257 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1434851580 350005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ \ \ :-( \ \ \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ scr < 1434851583 766885 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better, see? < 1434851614 912659 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rmdir ' ' ' \' '\ ' ' \' < 1434851615 441357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove ` \\': No such file or directory < 1434851644 487641 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rmdir ' \ ' < 1434851645 27725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434851663 861578 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file blah < 1434851666 695584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah: ASCII text < 1434851670 474807 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat blah < 1434851671 41793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434851679 791846 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat blah > 'blah \ blah' < 1434851681 533781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434851682 854768 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1434851683 490957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py < 1434851687 232190 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better. < 1434851696 650720 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now people will wonder why there are three files called "blah". < 1434851769 155941 :hppavilion1!a6890c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.97 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434851770 292292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434851841 839475 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives tswett an honourary golden mapole < 1434852208 384731 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random_elliott < 1434852208 937608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random_elliott: not found < 1434852216 467815 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat random_elliott < 1434852217 187355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott \ a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1434852221 804330 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1434852234 744321 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott what the random is it? < 1434852234 923165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434852247 574288 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen elliott < 1434852247 753083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :el|Io7T < 1434852276 678003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen olsner < 1434852276 856883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :O|sn3r < 1434852287 474052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help seen < 1434852287 653173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands < 1434852307 502225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help leet < 1434852307 681136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elite <phrase>. Translate English to elitespeak < 1434852327 864995 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen chicken < 1434852328 44113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHicxEN < 1434852349 209126 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles lambdabot “don't you dare defile the Name of Our CHICKEN” < 1434852398 577768 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen Whatever the output of this command is, I will name my first child. < 1434852398 756706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\/|-|A+EVeR teh OUTpu+ of 7Hiz0rz Co/\/\m4nd I$, I \/\/i1l NAmE my phirst ChIld. < 1434852603 14254 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434852635 136989 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phirst Swett. < 1434852798 57147 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. There's a certain decision that computer programmers make frequently. < 1434852902 542401 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, whether the current stage of a process should be represented using a state variable, or by where the execution pointer is. < 1434853313 181995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the latter not a subset of the former < 1434853841 747157 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1434853854 283090 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please refungot the chännel! < 1434854253 325442 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434854261 238759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In UNIX operating systems you can leave files called -r and -f on the filesystem. If you then call rm * then rm cannot distinguish between the files -r and -f and does a recursive delete leaving only -r and -f. This is because it's the shell that expands the arguments." < 1434854265 776893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION WTFs at UNIX < 1434854267 846069 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damned rural internet < 1434854283 114273 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Tcl is similar < 1434854301 99899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although most Tcl commands allow a -- which means don't assume the remaining arguments are options < 1434854334 286741 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : most shell commands (the gnu versions anyway) do too < 1434854367 343833 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-rin: is that how you can grep for a pattern that begins with ‘-’? I'm always having trouble with that. < 1434854427 388073 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1434854486 664448 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: in most programming languages, the execution pointer is not exposed as a variable. < 1434854496 125878 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well, how would you change Unix so that it doesn't do that? < 1434854512 644283 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd endorse non-UNIX, I think < 1434854542 892542 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some clean distinction between options and non-option arguments, more like Racket keyword arguments < 1434854549 836338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than like CL keyword arguments < 1434854557 475444 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-rin: That's not just the GNU versions. < 1434854558 948045 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a good idea. < 1434854572 480829 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is incredibly ancient Unix. < 1434854579 839594 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it predates C. < 1434854598 778401 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing can predate C. < 1434854623 424167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B, and before that A... I mean BCPL < 1434854637 519964 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be specific, BTW: getopt has the behavior that option processing stops with "--". < 1434854653 184376 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icraxbyjoqnxrpmb JOIN :#esoteric < 1434854657 63334 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And POSIX getopt BUT NOT GNU GETOPT has the behavior that option processing stops with the first non-option. < 1434854692 999372 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm . -r < 1434854693 631197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove directory: `.' < 1434854701 37117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"B continues to see use (as of 2014)..." < 1434854705 948898 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r . < 1434854706 504359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove directory: `.' < 1434854708 636887 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1434854709 242268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py < 1434854735 22975 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin -r < 1434854739 381641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434854742 242466 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1434854742 817525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin: No such file or directory < 1434854747 130520 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434854752 138325 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1434854763 176648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434854764 331227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ as86 \ aseen \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ cAt \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins \ CoInS \ complain \ complaints < 1434854835 349786 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Apparently some mainframe happened to use B. < 1434854992 219202 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434855136 962046 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434855137 244347 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434855555 117805 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434855790 951781 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434855791 167130 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1434855791 167242 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434856434 424918 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: CONSTRUCT CHICKEN < 1434856447 679166 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434857023 146873 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434857896 813135 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434858098 727162 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1434858985 204257 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434859665 129975 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1434860323 154010 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434861965 231349 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434863539 631965 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434864011 671450 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434865694 240295 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434865727 681957 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434865956 826076 :password2_!~password@197.77.85.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434866629 888695 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pragriwtmgesnfsw QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434866648 863519 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rtzurgtjqnzddaws JOIN :#esoteric < 1434867836 537019 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434868300 909283 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434869516 799605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434869646 882367 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434870957 16144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-mold < 1434870957 231281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 10h 9m 47s ago: Indeed, I've disabled @seen because I suspect it of leaking memory. < 1434872317 201179 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434873865 631760 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1434875106 642108 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434875616 879872 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1434875744 574806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I in the mood to make a really overengineered brainfuck implementation < 1434875851 6075 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running on multiple computers, written in multiple languages < 1434875874 952855 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly not brainfuck... < 1434875957 410194 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like fizzbuzz enterprise edition? < 1434875968 202829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of? < 1434876171 119903 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainshit!!! < 1434877375 272088 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, it's the solstice < 1434879504 152776 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434879523 348938 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434879767 751186 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434880182 328947 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a derp!!! < 1434880198 121224 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is a derp anyway?) < 1434880225 934125 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Who knows?) < 1434880266 622906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not a herp < 1434880266 801734 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a regular derp or a more advanced herp derp? < 1434880811 841857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- eep < 1434880815 384572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434880820 53781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<tswett> `revert <-- eep < 1434880902 404412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i suspect you just undid every single symbolic link in bin. hopefully that doesn't actually break anything. < 1434881568 761203 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434882111 76619 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator < 1434882157 326039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: your link is _so_ yesterday hth < 1434882168 329355 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* I've been busy. < 1434882175 144270 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Midsummer holiday and lots of Rust. :D < 1434883600 142953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Rust on midsummer holiday seems non-optimal. < 1434884780 314840 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust? As in the language or the game? < 1434884875 168424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it's tje language < 1434884982 591374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope J_Arcane is referring to oxidized iron < 1434886218 626943 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :language < 1434888784 190599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if brainfuck is more easily optimizable with a prime number of possible cell values < 1434888793 645322 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg 127 or 257 < 1434888898 482472 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 3 < 1434888912 478796 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wjy should it? < 1434888974 253960 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then the cell values form a field < 1434888981 372862 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which feels like it should be helpful < 1434889261 465418 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... 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:#esoteric < 1434899624 988065 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434900139 219047 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434900565 652925 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: PANCAKE CHICKEN < 1434900583 587145 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/selflink < 1434900602 992862 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/selflink: broken symbolic link to `selflink' < 1434900977 125187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, no fungot < 1434903529 619635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434903680 860841 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1434903826 218231 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434903844 809604 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434904200 687959 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1434904374 988901 :mhi^_!~mhi@104.131.27.185 NICK :mhi^ < 1434904379 33882 :mhi^!~mhi@104.131.27.185 QUIT :Changing host < 1434904379 87809 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434904384 268512 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/ < 1434904411 503174 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/raw/master/slides/the_movfuscator_recon_2015.pdf < 1434904435 826301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but xor only takes two arguments < 1434904440 928337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most asms < 1434904451 519165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a three-arg asm? in which case, is that seriously the best way to zero eax? < 1434904475 741454 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is beign discussed?} < 1434904483 759164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the URL < 1434904486 894548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you just posted < 1434904493 314856 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1434904511 267397 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy encoded everything with MOV instruction :D < 1434904518 726806 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :brianfuck in mov < 1434904527 114218 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lcc backend < 1434904605 841181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a wireworld computer that works like that < 1434904632 227429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wireworld isn't TC in finite space) < 1434904689 285657 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas < 1434904750 645912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434904881 421274 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434904884 521183 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :LITERALLY the URL < 1434904886 101285 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434904889 28138 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it < 1434904901 944814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the URL itself, not the page at the destination < 1434904904 877376 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1434904916 356132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xor eax, eax" is an x86ism for zeroing eax, because it has a short encoding < 1434904917 19024 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :xoreaxeax was probably taken < 1434904975 407842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor eax, eax even works on amd64 < 1434905113 518415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well yes, amd64 is backwards-compatible < 1434905121 331535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it clears rax on amd64. < 1434905140 514241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to ask, what does it do to the top half of rax? < 1434905159 391359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it gets zeroed whenever you do anything that only mentions the bottom half? or is it eax specifically you have to mention? < 1434905178 578732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's any register that only addresses the bottom half. < 1434905192 930704 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shoudl read the slides < 1434905195 986480 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really funny < 1434905205 72201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when you change ax half of eax stays the same but half of rax gets zeroed. < 1434905323 330396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo a bit of a scow < 1434905405 692002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :r < 1434905409 840729 :r!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1434905443 559557 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1434905561 123900 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is subleq self modifying code? < 1434905571 563535 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :must it use self modification to be TC? < 1434905805 605619 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it must self-modify, yeah. < 1434905875 930002 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434905879 996546 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, have some random Unicode characters. < 1434905921 907597 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+0080 LITIRE DOLOTITINTERCAL] [U+0006 LITIN THETIINTITERIS] [U+0003 LITIN INTERCAL LETTER A] [U+2000 AAALAG DIND] [U+0029 LITIN DACE] [U+0069 LITIN STAL] [U+2034 SMALL TITE STALL] [U+0068 LATIN TINT TINTENTERCAL] < 1434905937 130724 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why so many of them contain the word "LITIN". < 1434906541 710033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of intercal < 1434906910 487752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mov14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43251 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+2000) 10created article about MOV < 1434907066 940474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mov14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43252&oldid=43251 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+30) 10Category:Esoteric subset < 1434907140 147003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:Esoteric subset14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43253 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+96) 10Created category page < 1434907172 771516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh < 1434907173 14008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Swearjure14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43254&oldid=42009 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+30) 10[[Category:Esoteric subset]] < 1434907176 107857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone created a new category < 1434907187 872767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have to yell at them now? < 1434907190 29849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07JSFuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43255&oldid=42019 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+29) 10 < 1434907302 990233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is against wiki policy to create new categories without discussion < 1434907622 845613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Cluid Zhasulelm14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43256&oldid=42054 5* 03Cluid Zhasulelm 5* (+121) 10added article and wiki < 1434907810 894545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know < 1434907934 521793 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I am saying, yes, they should be yelled at < 1434908054 575658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434908071 9706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spim/SPIM Pretends It's MIPS < 1434908083 934949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS Is Pretend SPIM < 1434908090 361115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: invent anything good lately? < 1434908120 693137 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yell < 1434908121 388857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: yell: not found < 1434908135 845309 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well, have you heard of Apache Thrift? < 1434908143 488439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434908155 347287 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1434908189 569454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You invented Apache Thrift? < 1434908296 672111 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying I didn't < 1434908312 916455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical < 1434908393 826245 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, more seriously, I'm going to be doing some research involving Apache Swift over the summer < 1434908408 309565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a cross between Apache Thrift and Apple Swift? < 1434908426 439300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep saying Swift instead of Thrift < 1434908438 519266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame my speech impediment which may or may not exist < 1434908470 500149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of research? < 1434908485 994137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also will you be doing REsearch or reSEARCH? < 1434908494 203320 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the latter < 1434908520 30174 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a sort of guided project to let undergraduates (me) get a taste of research < 1434908528 451092 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the direction it'll take until Wednesday < 1434908657 730675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434908855 463247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> I wonder if brainfuck is more easily optimizable with a prime number of possible cell values <-- yes i think so, it removes the special cases where a loop increment has a common factor with the cell size < 1434908876 717274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434908879 941327 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grue/grue is the colour of the trees and the ocean < 1434908906 187425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. [-->+<] for 256 cell values needs to distinguish whether the tested cell is odd or even < 1434908996 201330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while for a prime number it indeed turns into a simple field division by 2 < 1434909510 988103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> do we have to yell at them now? <-- yes, you do hth < 1434909542 984979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey, you're an admin too! < 1434909559 954539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you mentioned it first hth < 1434909572 670746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we added the rule after observing graue enforcing it, and not wanting other people to be caught out the same way < 1434909589 826281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers laughing maniackally < 1434909604 350075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the question is < 1434909612 751009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if nobody really wants to enforce it, does it still exist? < 1434909641 58460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth < 1434909679 304153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do make it not exist, someone has to propose deleting it hth < 1434909701 168926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we cannot have weaker rules for policies than categories. < 1434909793 376720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1434909798 90373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the category rule was our /only/ rule < 1434909805 922589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, other than copyright and similar legal stuff < 1434909818 370049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, we also have the User: rule hth < 1434909827 234141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we actually have six < 1434909829 207918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checked < 1434909893 192157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) copyright; 2) ontopic; 3) don't need notability but other people can change your work; 4) the category rule; 5) the User: rule < 1434909903 63160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rule 6) which encourages you to not enforce the others ;-) < 1434909959 548967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the User: rule? < 1434909975 13844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to hide the User: in links to user pages < 1434909982 598560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you're linking to a page in userspace, the User: bit of the link must be visible on the page < 1434909996 73637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that rule and enforce it when I see someone break it (by editing the User: bit into the link) < 1434910003 388218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category rule, it's harder to see what to do if someone breaks it, though < 1434910076 631545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks sternly at Taneb for turning idle just has he joined < 1434910085 840695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as < 1434910097 849440 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I just don't really have much to say < 1434910127 831181 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the category rule? < 1434910152 572572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's just thrifty with his words hth < 1434910159 620270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well i'm worried that i'm speaking to people who'll never end up seeing it before they ping out < 1434910176 662962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: don't create new categories without discussing them first and getting some level of agreement < 1434910189 71922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. we got agreement for a "music-based" category, but nobody actually bothered to make it < 1434910193 266839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? They'll just see what you said when they read the logs. < 1434910221 105218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: some people do not read the logs. shocking, i know. < 1434910230 187936 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I do not always read the logs < 1434910248 712976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to acknowledge the existence of such folks hth < 1434910260 783120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, anyone know why the latest version of Ubuntu opens Abiword every time I log in? the only thing I can think of is that it's the first program in alphabetical order in /usr/share/applications < 1434910281 175504 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently shachaf doesn't believe I exist < 1434910315 17076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor me < 1434910331 191219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What happens if you make a firster program in /usr/share/applications? < 1434910334 678863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's very rare for me to read things said in channel when I'm not here, unless someone explicitly points them to me < 1434910338 674897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not sure yet, haven't tried < 1434910338 728634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the ppid of abiword? < 1434910343 305576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ppid"? < 1434910347 79254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, parent PID? < 1434910353 193131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not easy to check, I keep closing it out of habit < 1434910356 144743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check next time I log in < 1434910362 358380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea though < 1434910379 67026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can take the opportunity to make another application in /usr/share/applications. < 1434910398 311356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the problem being that that's an OS-managed directory < 1434910416 786418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that because I don't like breaking the OS's existing abstractions, I'll have to write a program with a name that starts earlier < 1434910423 359146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then package and install it < 1434910455 218699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to let an OS boss you around like that? < 1434910456 440556 :Amahnda!~ircap@cpc3-acto1-2-0-cust898.4-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434910500 227666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because if you boss around a computer < 1434910503 270498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't mind, it just sometimes doesn't work < 1434910512 226422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're violating the assumptions the programmer made while programming it < 1434910574 164680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just see this as an opportunity to write an AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! interpreter hth < 1434910584 196060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'd need to be GUI tohugh < 1434910585 662542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1434910591 710759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434910593 822341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of what /usr/share/applications /is/ < 1434910599 958459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could just run in a terminal. < 1434910604 100707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1434910620 639812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it's quite possible that the bug is only exposed by "the first installed program in alphabetical order is a GUI program" < 1434910629 264983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were happening to everyone, it would have been noticed by now < 1434910641 341843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must be something different about my system < 1434910643 764409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abiword" must be a pretty common first program. < 1434910664 287095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of doubt your hypothesis because why would something run the first program in that directory? But I don't really know. < 1434910726 864491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be that it's a "saved session" thing, for instance, where you had Abiword running once and saved that session, and it keeps trying to restore it. < 1434910737 167993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have no idea. < 1434910746 621575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought it might be that, so I grepped my dotfiles for it < 1434910751 229437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shell command run in that directory accidentally missing command name? < 1434910771 603047 :Amahnda!~ircap@cpc3-acto1-2-0-cust898.4-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 277 seconds < 1434910776 283661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like I use it very much < 1434910787 929936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./* < 1434910789 930811 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ./:-(: Permission denied < 1434910800 603164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's possible, but doesn't abiword look at its command line arguments? < 1434910815 876982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1434910834 228122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you e.g. abiword olist0991.rtf < 1434910841 345760 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is there anything stupid in .bashrc or whatever < 1434910863 506249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a stealth `olist? < 1434910883 185212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1434910884 253265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's arguably stupid things in my .bashrc, but nothing that stupid < 1434910898 29173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I log into the desktop < 1434910899 86781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it has the right number... < 1434910902 883560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no reason my .bashrc would be running < 1434910915 500662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, presumably this is what rich burlew would run to make the next oots strip < 1434910929 248403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because abiword uses rich's text format by default if i remember correctly < 1434910934 598330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which maybe i don't < 1434910939 281081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think rich burlew makes the comics in abiword < 1434910953 153525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rtf < 1434910963 810247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1434910984 656972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I'm meant to have all of wisdom memorized now, am I? < 1434910992 658441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1434910995 790982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/rtf < 1434910998 230193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434910999 302006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just oerjan < 1434911019 196951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you can just memorize those i added, shouldn't be more than 87% < 1434911078 433478 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones oerjan added, and the Tanebventions, and you are done < 1434911094 253476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is there anything that you definitively /didn't/ invent? < 1434911103 661309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that stupid nitia guy is what's listed when Gregor (hey he's not even here) deleted the history < 1434911112 584478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sex hth < 1434911131 991260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I did not invent and have nothing to do with sex < 1434911135 459249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he probably didn't invent the cis, although who knows with time travel involved < 1434911135 513083 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :.n < 1434911138 979592 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grf. < 1434911147 494483 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest62171: Why you not Gregor? < 1434911167 847308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh a stealth Gregor < 1434911169 265519 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1434911318 866690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried to find out who created the most wisdom entries, but it times out < 1434911354 552478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as i implied, i suspect a lot of them will have "nitia" as the oldest entry < 1434911360 73965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434911365 163672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wanted to see anyway hth < 1434911381 969436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tanebvention < 1434911383 403715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Taneb oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan FireFly oerjan boily oerjan ais523 ais523 oerjan < 1434911384 871854 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia? < 1434911392 14302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not that one < 1434911404 368172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've edited tanebvention? < 1434911427 868704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that may just be `reverts < 1434911443 376204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/tanebvention < 1434911447 581691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/tanebvention < 1434911488 670528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that `revert was confused by the canary directory < 1434911490 485664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not listed in the substantial ones < 1434911496 40659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434911502 534531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's recent < 1434911513 67921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1434911516 364103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also still seems to wrok < 1434911518 757348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*work < 1434911520 797581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just spouts errors < 1434911527 91069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't think it confuses its actual _working_, it just gives a spurious error message. < 1434911528 46540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if we broke it permanently or if it's a transient thing < 1434911531 939281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has other bugs, though. < 1434911533 458085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it doesn't work < 1434911541 933109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. when you revert creating a file or something < 1434911548 700527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete scow if you ask me < 1434911581 624645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i suspect fizzie or Guest62171 just need to rm -r canary.orig, whereever that directory got stuck < 1434911656 685795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect there's a "cp canary .../canary.orig; ...; rm .../canary.orig" workflow where the last command broke when we made canary a directory < 1434911670 592448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has stayed broken since < 1434911686 217008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because canary.orig never gets deleted by anything else < 1434911689 823970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir .hg/store/data/canary.orig < 1434911690 381230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Read-only file system < 1434911695 849191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "cp" would break too in that case, though < 1434911712 812470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as shachaf demonstrated, it cannot be done from inside the sandbox < 1434911715 128538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r canary; touch canary < 1434911717 218307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434911720 920425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well it could have been mv < 1434911725 810860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test > test2 < 1434911727 464466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434911731 390145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434911733 454881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434911735 936131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1434911737 288748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have a great state < 1434911738 588957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434911739 262744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test2 < 1434911739 830066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um canary hasn't been a directory for some time < 1434911739 936114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: test2: No such file or directory < 1434911742 672217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat test2 < 1434911743 574201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1434911748 263011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, someone changed it back? < 1434911759 383910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did, in the hope of getting rid of the error < 1434911776 83202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does test2 exist? < 1434911777 259897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; mkfifo canary < 1434911779 197701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434911783 774810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test2 < 1434911784 350756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1434911791 359497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l canary < 1434911792 61943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1434911794 469659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``ls -l canary < 1434911795 39187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ls: not found < 1434911796 562182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434911797 216781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Jun 21 18:38 canary < 1434911808 594340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the canary can't be a fifo either < 1434911821 203952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ln -s .hg/store/data/canary.orig canary < 1434911824 950336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434911841 640500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Guest62171: looks like I /did/ manage to permanently break/damage HackEgo from inside it (if accidentally), what do I win? < 1434911977 354370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I thought I was the one who had messed it up. < 1434911982 805884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm confused. < 1434911990 968101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch Guest62171 is as idle as ever. < 1434911996 695493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434911997 479693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 26 Jun 21 18:39 canary -> .hg/store/data/canary.orig < 1434912005 505417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you made the canary a symlink? < 1434912009 710677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just now. < 1434912010 431618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the destination relevant to this? < 1434912013 436346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I made it a directory before. < 1434912015 518430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: normally if you tried to do that < 1434912017 617323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm it's possible that since it's in the repository, the file gets regenerated when a proper checkout is done. < 1434912018 428806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it failed due to the canary check < 1434912021 714575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it a directory before too < 1434912025 267748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you made it a directory in 2012? < 1434912034 880757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1434912036 41516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912039 405991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that, I made it a directory a couple of weeks ago. < 1434912040 441083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434912042 252298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 26 Jun 21 18:42 canary -> .hg/store/data/canary.orig < 1434912046 302465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was about the same time < 1434912050 118692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might both have been in the same discussion? < 1434912059 560086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ls -l canary /bin/\? < 1434912061 233684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access canary: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access /bin/?: No such file or directory < 1434912065 212414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed canary | grep mkdir < 1434912067 558479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ls -l bin/\? canary < 1434912068 377813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <shachaf> ` rm canary; mkdir canary \ summary: <elliott> rm canary; mkdir canary; touch canary/hmm \ summary: <elliott> rm canary; mkdir canary; touch canary/hmm \ summary: <ais523> run rm canary && mkdir canary < 1434912069 624786 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access canary: No such file or directory \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 372 Jun 21 02:47 bin/? < 1434912080 549487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ln -s bin/\? canary < 1434912082 469022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912087 306935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434912087 943470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Jun 21 18:43 canary -> bin/? < 1434912093 942935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, looks like it can be a symlink < 1434912102 272902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ln -s canary canary < 1434912103 517141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912105 757194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434912107 636575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Jun 21 18:43 canary -> bin/? < 1434912113 278486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not a broken one < 1434912123 142279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, not a circular one < 1434912135 186290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; ln -s /.nonexistent canary < 1434912136 588543 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912138 758307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1434912140 508553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Jun 21 18:44 canary -> bin/? < 1434912144 913814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a broken one either < 1434912154 170850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is the source? < 1434912197 495504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`source < 1434912198 828268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: source: not found < 1434912209 212710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, bitbucket. < 1434912265 8794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/src/tip/multibot_cmds/lib/revert < 1434912293 613223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this is rather moot until either fizzie or Gregor reactivates. fizzie already promised to have a look. < 1434912353 669123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir canary.orig < 1434912354 220835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912357 244959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir canary.orig < 1434912357 951464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912389 929412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1434912412 207103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch canary.orig < 1434912413 46481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect canary.orig is not and never has been in the actual /hackenv/ directory. < 1434912413 946069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912423 516258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary.orig < 1434912425 661213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912438 972712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Finding Turing-completeness in unlikely places has long been a pastime of bored computer scientists" < 1434912459 106270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the paper that describes the algorithm that movfuscator implements) < 1434912487 500723 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hehe < 1434912502 22856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch file.orig < 1434912503 724814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912509 476546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one can accuse us of not following tradition < 1434912519 772546 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434912528 954066 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov is turing complete < 1434912536 123414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm file.orig < 1434912537 902037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434912550 231919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders wtf shachaf is trying to do < 1434912567 394823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1434912568 761440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1434912591 50077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls file.orig < 1434912591 810772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access file.orig: No such file or directory < 1434912652 571423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk canary.orig//hi < 1434912654 891129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary.orig < 1434912683 869850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i thought HackEgo ignored empty files, but touch file.orig showed up in the browser. < 1434912699 689059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does .hg/store/data work? < 1434912708 982016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wonder it hasn't collapsed a long time ago. < 1434912730 320822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by being outside the sandbox, for a start? < 1434912756 255287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignoring the sandbox, what is it supposed to do? < 1434912792 129268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an excellent question. next question please... < 1434912799 242975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should probably eat some. < 1434912831 468803 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too < 1434912851 166941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so the problem wasn't caused by canary being a directory, it was caused by making files inside that directory. < 1434912906 136093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1434912906 342142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, btw I can get to SF and back for £300 or so < 1434912926 918270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's recursively copying the canary, then non-recursively deleting it? < 1434912942 394341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was caused by there being files inside canary.orig. < 1434912955 332158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should figure out how mercurial works before making these claims. < 1434912988 798247 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone see thaht mov based obfuscator? < 1434913011 715637 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a crackme in there < 1434913012 476846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: it was linked earlier < 1434913017 580026 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks hard to solve < 1434913023 352121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw there was a file named crackme but I don't know what that is < 1434913033 493662 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's a program that wants a password < 1434913043 691251 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're supposed to try to figure out the password from the binary < 1434913050 156165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1434913060 754985 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was compiled with lcc to mov instructions < 1434913062 589189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory it could implement a cryptohash < 1434913075 580023 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to decode mov instructions somehowe < 1434913078 137313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although for it to be an interesting problem, it probably doesn't < 1434913135 399865 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe have HB fetch it... < 1434913165 100959 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to reverse engineer < 1434913378 143422 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'll take a chance and run it... *WARN: NOT GOOD SECURITY PRACTICE* < 1434913424 949765 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj? < 1434913433 29258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the canary problem is unsolvable without rewriting history hth < 1434913437 961953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/L/l/ < 1434913449 362426 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila? < 1434913462 238431 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking aboutL? < 1434913489 246323 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The crackme, what else) < 1434913589 80099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, or better, rewriting `revert to exclude .hg < 1434913635 542400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1434913665 102226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert searches hackenv for files ending in .orig < 1434913671 206427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it also searches .hg for them < 1434913713 740074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And .hg/store/data/canary.orig/....i just means that there was ever a canary.orig directory with files in it in the repository. < 1434913762 867780 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434913831 232706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> it's a wonder it hasn't collapsed a long time ago. < 1434913855 254791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ☝ you just need to fix `revert hth < 1434914442 14790 :password2_!~password@197.77.85.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434914599 528597 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434915345 270509 :Andrej_T_!1f0b4090@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.11.64.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434915893 246174 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :name a simple 1d language with few tokens but at least some of them larger than one character < 1434915925 991640 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook < 1434915940 984057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Ook they're all the same length though < 1434915952 11273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Forte count? it might be a bit too complex though < 1434915961 21935 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least some of them are larger than one char < 1434916002 506299 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, BIT, Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1434916025 97962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: I know, it fits the letter of the request, but might not fit for what myname intended to ask < 1434916036 512306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I try to come up with a useful answer rather than a literal one < 1434916041 856659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless the literal answer is /really/ amusing) < 1434916046 565508 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1434916070 922214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I assume the question is in the context of testing a lexer framework (it is possible that the lexer framework in question is myname's brain) < 1434916086 441906 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you are absolutely right < 1434916100 774437 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the brain part < 1434916137 829567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that was possible, not that it was certain < 1434916148 923551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. I was generalizing the assumption to not require the lexer framework to be computer-based < 1434916165 982020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: is this similar to lex in the way it works / the input you give it? or is it entirely different? I can believe either < 1434916168 780611 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit may be possible < 1434917167 472756 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434917392 841458 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo ucould make a esolang that's just mov < 1434917401 586043 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434917411 29060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: the wireworld computer is that, bascially < 1434917419 353936 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1434917526 191112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1434917774 226706 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well, there's Al Dente. < 1434917802 620133 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Widely agreed to be the best esolang ever created. < 1434917858 32418 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define widely < 1434917890 650638 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that that fact has been asserted by at least one person who is physically larger than the average person. < 1434917942 74686 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lexical stuff is defined by the following paragraph from the wiki: < 1434917943 659562 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Al Dente program consists of a sequence of tokens, optionally separated by whitespace. A token is a brace, a parenthesis, a semicolon, a period, or a case-sensitive sequence of English letters. A sequence of letters beginning with an uppercase letter is a class identifier; a sequence of letters beginning with a lowercase letter is a variable, unless it is one of the keywords "matches", "requires", "excludes", "and", or "or". Letter sequences must < 1434917943 762429 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :be separated by whitespace. Whitespace has no significance besides separating tokens. < 1434918716 292443 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434918865 843315 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434918868 306379 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hia < 1434918880 214753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434918920 852261 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hppavilion1 < 1434918923 332597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08hppavilion1: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07<http://esolangs.org/>. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1434918995 349317 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1434918999 333543 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been here before < 1434919150 612054 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :wmelcombe back hppavilion1 < 1434919151 896495 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha'ts up? < 1434919155 299601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ais523 < 1434919159 317974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06ais523: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02<http://esolangs.org/>. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1434919167 166810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you do know I have colours filtered, right? < 1434919178 446082 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ais523 < 1434919179 265313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04ais523: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13<http://esolangs.org/>. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1434919187 714380 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION relcomes harder < 1434919198 746659 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434919203 900789 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434919205 763114 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relcomes < 1434919301 845276 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434919318 111824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :-( < 1434919326 622506 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ais523 < 1434919327 584957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04ais523: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13<http://esolangs.org/>. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1434919333 68445 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't spam with the bot < 1434919334 500866 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, I'll stop now) < 1434919359 275476 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434919364 928830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: too many stupid welcome variants is part of the reason I left #esoteric last time < 1434919373 837355 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434919376 534880 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1434919378 11006 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1434919379 482247 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434919383 438396 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I restarted my browser < 1434919390 187436 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up < 1434919392 946099 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothin < 1434919397 496231 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :any esolang stuff going on < 1434919402 261349 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1434919414 281062 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm making a marginally-esoteric (but more useful) language < 1434919425 926600 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you would like to contribute to its repo that'd work < 1434919445 231800 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of language is it < 1434919460 792624 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called PFIL < 1434919469 829692 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Purely Functional Imperative Language < 1434919496 2961 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a language where you can do black magic like define functions that behave like complex statements < 1434919520 204226 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/TheGloriousRepublic/Purely-Functional-Imperative-Language < 1434919528 517290 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not implementing it, but I'm writing the specs < 1434919534 229091 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting! < 1434919538 495105 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Standard Libraries < 1434919607 362437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, languages like OCaml have empty tuples with side effects as their command type < 1434919611 900681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ statement type < 1434919623 438156 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1434919633 676685 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interepretsting < 1434919634 348355 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434919659 943072 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to die for that, aren't I? < 1434919753 391161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like something pretty minor to kill over < 1434919767 220912 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1434919782 463790 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish webchat made a noise when someone messaged < 1434919845 656839 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to implement all the computable brainfuck derivatives I can in python < 1434919867 938129 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a LOT < 1434919894 516330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to spec up Statistical Brainfuck at some point < 1434919897 387152 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the ones on the Wiki < 1434919899 480470 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1434919902 890432 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds cool < 1434919908 14335 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what we need more of? < 1434919923 855601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's brainfuck except that it tries to interpret its input as eight different commands, then works out which is which based on things like [ and ] matching < 1434919927 800650 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck derivates? < 1434919942 738702 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's implied < 1434919942 844533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea being that it should automatically implement as many brainfuck equivalents as possible < 1434919954 84616 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what we need more of that I actually need to say? < 1434919958 949534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it can't figure out what the program does at all, it just prints "Hello, world!" < 1434919965 933195 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434919972 380174 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez < 1434919980 334666 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric Markup Languages < 1434919986 181772 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need more kewlzez? < 1434919990 735944 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now < 1434919992 348801 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*No < 1434919998 278702 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an adjective < 1434920016 618665 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need more Esomulangs < 1434920035 764205 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e-sow-mew-langs) < 1434920078 388550 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to get on that? < 1434920100 606790 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone makes an Esoteric Markup Language, I'll try to make an Esoteric StyleSheet Language < 1434920115 799201 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: html? < 1434920120 772258 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1434920125 156321 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esotericer one < 1434920126 481209 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434920134 149392 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML isn't that esoteric anyway < 1434920285 343435 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any ideas? < 1434920339 864243 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't imagine an eso markup language < 1434920349 397963 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible? < 1434920360 465410 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434920361 851070 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gues IRC color codes are kind of esoteric < 1434920367 489639 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probe it's possible with a bad idea < 1434920369 718857 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*prove < 1434920373 819134 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid new keyboard < 1434920375 129068 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :beacuse they're out of normal bounds chars < 1434920385 879849 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first line is a brainfuck program < 1434920390 571216 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is the text to markup < 1434920428 480312 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The value of the cell corresponding to each letter describes that the letter should be bold if n>0, else n is normal weight < 1434920445 610854 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bad oen < 1434920448 587901 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one < 1434920460 627013 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it BrainUp (Bold Only) < 1434920533 401115 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434920540 289521 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A better example would use the individual bits in a cell < 1434920583 535848 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: bold, 2: italics, 3: underline, 4-11: text size, 12-35: color < 1434920690 821953 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it? < 1434920720 940879 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX? < 1434920734 637786 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1434920741 366402 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something really weird < 1434920751 723712 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is logical and well-thought-out < 1434920759 278501 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'd be hard to implement :P < 1434920784 301315 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft implements a decent one < 1434920800 729495 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modifiers are one symbol prefixed by a section sign < 1434920806 724318 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-f correspond to colors < 1434920817 530043 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another corresponds to bold < 1434920821 522961 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One to italics < 1434920824 792830 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One to underline < 1434920829 602747 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One to obfuscation < 1434920835 533740 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one to reset the formatting < 1434921099 650417 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&ftest < 1434921101 889991 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1434921122 219261 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ftest < 1434921144 45375 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C5,12colored text and background^C < 1434921145 524677 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1434921148 941242 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't do it < 1434921150 254839 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1434921453 337561 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice user name < 1434921672 402020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've discussed it before now < 1434921678 816170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was chosen ages ago to be easy to remember < 1434921714 862291 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I no longer own an hP < 1434921716 458763 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HP < 1434921724 853592 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of yesterday < 1434921725 312591 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it died < 1434921728 114618 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1434921795 578123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to change nick now? < 1434921803 240925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe buy a new one and becoe hppavilion2?) < 1434921803 744640 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVAR < 1434921805 337560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*become < 1434921810 844664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434921811 150713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this here to stay < 1434921814 951428 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNLESS IT'S TAKEN AT SOME POINT < 1434921828 904522 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My previous hp was hppavilion2 < 1434921834 22447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant info/KHL?%y9vnkM_v46 $Tn`ʋxkH2gqH;!;2F(zإ2CmXW < 1434921838 552545 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 1 since we count from 0 < 1434921869 933753 :Andrej_T_!1f0b4090@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.11.64.144 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434921902 38435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434921903 973403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :døsthiswørk/yes < 1434921971 984339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434921973 265361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434921980 110716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's all this < 1434922098 481341 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1434922101 56996 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing Flash < 1434922137 848743 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434922186 790984 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434922447 351889 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1434922890 28506 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*: Hi < 1434922927 667576 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1434922951 695977 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does * work like that? < 1434923020 892705 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1434923149 903589 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit highlightin me.. < 1434923191 457098 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1434923199 508035 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just seeing if * worked < 1434923213 19417 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1434923227 963197 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The asterisk doesn't alert everyone every time it's used, does ti? < 1434923229 440953 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it? < 1434923243 175059 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully it didn't go off there < 1434923253 191723 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It at least has to be padded by spaces, right? < 1434923253 336052 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit.. < 1434923261 412378 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an idiot, aren't I? < 1434923287 452772 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434923287 506511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1434923342 795177 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just joshin your chain < 1434923464 26153 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1434923490 447323 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :* * *** * * < 1434923505 539885 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ding ding dingdingding ding ding < 1434923505 751471 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morse code < 1434923512 57878 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1434923513 741993 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH *s INSTEAD OF DOTS < 1434923523 538098 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND INSTEAD OF DASHES < 1434923583 449686 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've invented a new kind of morse code, it's more compact < 1434923595 395208 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it called ASCII? < 1434923596 545084 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do is get rid of all the dots and replace them with nothing, and do the same for dashes < 1434923600 418811 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite compression!!1!1 < 1434923605 571083 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH < 1434924878 715065 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434925702 944663 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What just happened? < 1434925839 996138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for u in $(culprits quotes); do echo "$u"; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn < 1434925841 668025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 328 elliott \ 314 oerjan \ 75 kmc \ 72 shachaf \ 49 ais523 \ 40 coppro \ 26 monqy \ 15 boily \ 14 GreyKnight \ 13 Phantom_Hoover \ 12 Taneb \ 11 shubshub \ 11 quintopia \ 11 Gregor \ 9 fizzie \ 8 mnoqy \ 8 FireFly \ 8 Fiora \ 8 ell < 1434925850 65058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for u in $(culprits quotes); do echo "$u"; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | xargs < 1434925851 788354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :328 elliott 314 oerjan 75 kmc 72 shachaf 49 ais523 40 coppro 26 monqy 15 boily 14 GreyKnight 13 Phantom_Hoover 12 Taneb 11 shubshub 11 quintopia 11 Gregor 9 fizzie 8 mnoqy 8 FireFly 8 Fiora 8 elliott___ 7 Sgeo 7 ion 6 hagb4rd 5 ranc 5 olsner 5 elliott_ 4 RocketJSquirrel 4 Jafet 3 tswett 3 elliott__ 2 pikhq_ 2 nortti 2 < 1434925861 560765 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now I'm highlighted in lines I can't even see < 1434925891 52723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, weechat highlights you. < 1434925925 397866 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mosh messes up astral unicode codepoints because glibc sucks < 1434925933 397574 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first of those lines is invisible to me < 1434925936 729454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What astral codepoints? < 1434925947 396313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was that bug again < 1434925961 396382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's something else this time < 1434925975 395592 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for u in $(culprits quotes); do echo "$u"; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | hexd < 1434925977 395173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434925979 566176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: hexd: command not found < 1434925981 396060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for u in $(culprits quotes); do echo "$u"; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | hexdump -C < 1434925983 591901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 20 20 20 20 33 32 38 20 65 6c 6c 69 6f 74 0f 74 | 328 elliot.t| \ 00000010 0a 20 20 20 20 33 31 34 20 6f 65 72 6a 61 0f 6e |. 314 oerja.n| \ 00000020 0a 20 20 20 20 20 37 35 20 6b 6d 0f 63 0a 20 20 |. 75 km.c. | \ 00000030 20 20 20 37 32 20 73 68 61 63 68 61 0f 66 0a 20 | 72 shacha.f. | \ 00000040 20 20 20 20 34 3 < 1434925985 249790 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does glibc mess up astral codepoints?!? < 1434925992 969690 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :astral codepoints < 1434925998 107890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It messes up their width. < 1434926002 574089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcwidth() < 1434926008 836991 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I see the astral codepoints? < 1434926009 394962 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its wcwidth returns -1 for all of them last I checked < 1434926012 820191 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... You're kidding me, right? < 1434926017 28877 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434926023 563223 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposedly fixed in the next release, I hear < 1434926032 218804 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :After two years or so since I first heard the problem reported < 1434926041 86186 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :astral plane < 1434926043 743192 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just doesn't know? < 1434926053 755657 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does backspace have a wcwidth of -1, btw?) < 1434926072 206334 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :var regexAstralSymbols = /[\uD800-\uDBFF][\uDC00-\uDFFF]/g; < 1434926108 959604 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/keithw/mosh/issues/234 it's been an issue for at least three years < 1434926127 748490 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the *ever loving fuck*. < 1434926149 886062 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: that regex is matching UTF-16? < 1434926155 192623 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, UTF-16 bytepairs? < 1434926161 565119 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bizarre thing to run a regex on < 1434926169 945327 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know lol < 1434926172 337406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun printf("%d\n", wcwidth('\b')); < 1434926173 617325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1 < 1434926190 993741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not special to backspace, it's just because it's not a printable character or something. < 1434926242 754609 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon I'll be able to see these fancy emoji on IRC, too < 1434926418 91185 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How in the world is glibc this broken on such a simple thing? < 1434926574 136131 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: looks like a JavaScript snippet. Which makes sense, because JS uses UCS-2 < 1434926588 41261 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In conclusion, you should use musl. < 1434926602 510223 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, matching 16-bit surrogate pairs < 1434926602 708789 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: right, so it's implementing UTF-16 on top of a UCS-2 underlying representation < 1434926605 901670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434926606 772514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accounting/<BAL|FSV> = 0 < 1434926608 69361 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434926670 709065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It annoys me when universally bad behaviour is spec'd because of historical reasons < 1434926700 710831 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to universally bad behaviour being spec'd because this is #esoteric and we like that behaviour sometimes? < 1434926813 156096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think many esoteric languages are bad in the way backwards compatibility and lack of foresight and so on make things bad. < 1434926849 721796 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rtzurgtjqnzddaws QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434926870 90695 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-aqsnowzgkpnzixac JOIN :#esoteric < 1434926881 364658 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes < 1434926966 872490 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It annoys me when someone fails to implement behavior from 14 years ago. < 1434926998 682396 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(U+20000 has a wcwidth of -1 in glibc. That character is *literally 14 years old*.) < 1434927033 644966 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, I misread that as U+200000 and thought "isn't that out of range?" < 1434927047 922375 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that implemented as a test character? < 1434927055 521527 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $((0x10ffff)) < 1434927056 293969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1114111 < 1434927062 936532 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the symmetry of that number < 1434927092 778592 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's a CJK codepoint. < 1434927130 29347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [base n # 1114111 | n <- [2..36]] < 1434927131 544072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["100001111111111111111","2002121021101","10033333333","241122421","35513531... < 1434927132 878952 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\u20000' < 1434927132 932734 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :" 0" < 1434927136 28660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\s -> s == reverse s) [base n # 1114111 | n <- [2..36]] < 1434927137 572763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["1114111"] < 1434927140 82719 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a luck producing it in javascript < 1434927161 809703 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's astral. :) < 1434927195 458226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't we use base 36, anyway? < 1434927216 994511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> base 36 # 2^20 < 1434927218 448930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "mh34" < 1434927224 11504 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2t4w < 1434927225 220902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "shachaf" ^? base 36 < 1434927226 896712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 61995208839 < 1434927233 293893 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: normally if you're going astral planes, you need a capital U and 8 hex digits < 1434927246 976948 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many languages (e.g. C) define \u to take exactly 4 digits as an argument < 1434927258 564719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: Maximal munch is an obviously superior strategy. < 1434927272 315127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/trategy/ystem/ < 1434927285 637307 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what if you want a hex digit right after that? < 1434927288 799208 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaks backwards-compatibility with stuff like \uXXXXABC < 1434927297 336820 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C allows \u /inside an identifier/ < 1434927298 415718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC uses \& for a length-0 escape sequence < 1434927302 689330 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no escape syntax there < 1434927311 407224 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is neat < 1434927331 919772 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: bizarre.. why does it do that? < 1434927335 669686 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclexa had @ as a length-0 escape syntax < 1434927337 664103 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought only Java did that.. < 1434927341 32046 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: same reason as trigraphs < 1434927349 583972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you can also use \ \ < 1434927350 890278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\x123\ \4" < 1434927352 209390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\291\&4" < 1434927359 201919 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps WTFing at glibc < 1434927363 600358 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of ambiguous parsing < 1434927370 928680 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigraphs at least help you write mandatory characters < 1434927398 883431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't use \u00C8 in an identifier to make it easier to read, rather than ASCIIfying into ae or something < 1434927408 756119 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or A8 or whatever it is < 1434927419 119461 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the C standards committee presumably read the IOCCC < 1434927431 989153 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they specifically denied using \u for ASCII :-) < 1434927439 579858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1434927472 244309 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, I think the purpose of trigraphs is so that you can send C programs between different systems and not be corrupted < 1434927473 72153 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434927476 596551 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \u serves the same purpose < 1434927513 687258 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trigraph-encoded chars have different encodings in different EBCDIC variants. < 1434927590 150869 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434927616 793677 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: that regex matches a single Unicode character above 0xFFFF, assuming that the regex is run on "naively interpreted UTF-16". < 1434927621 271873 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure.) < 1434927636 65594 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes < 1434927640 67825 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "naively interpreted UTF-16" is where you just pretend that every pair of bytes represents itself as a Unicode character. < 1434927651 906121 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is UCS-2, i.e. what JS uses < 1434927674 374699 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'h\&' < 1434927675 861214 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:6: < 1434927675 963961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at end of input < 1434927692 23772 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'h\&i' < 1434927693 532987 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Syntax error on 'h < 1434927693 635771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell < 1434927693 689683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the Template Haskell quotation 'h < 1434927698 407670 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "h\&i" < 1434927699 879701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hi" < 1434927705 335811 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. duh. < 1434927717 681134 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, a Template Haskell quotation? < 1434927719 335851 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'too much J' < 1434927719 581157 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesante. < 1434927720 303717 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: too much J < 1434928225 264991 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\ \ \ \\ \ \\ \ \ \ \ \\ \ \\ \ " < 1434928226 707437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : " \\ \\ " < 1434928314 113397 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? you < 1434928314 949040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a haskell < 1434928406 331652 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn you < 1434928407 75167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn you? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434928961 476712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just the result of a `learn you a haskell ... kind of disappointing < 1434928996 138632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/you < 1434928998 189653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434929054 69471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1434929062 76439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually realize where nitia came from. < 1434929063 97578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it had survived for 55 months) < 1434929094 561816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get some sort of cluelessness points < 1434929108 90492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...care to enlighten me? < 1434929118 574648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/you < 1434929119 536959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 0:e037173e0012 \ user: HackBot \ date: Thu Feb 16 19:42:32 2012 +0000 \ summary: Initial import. < 1434929126 8117 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :h. < 1434929128 712308 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1434929145 990333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great < 1434929152 625366 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really is < 1434929155 296251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks nitia < 1434929156 123900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, nitia. Thitia. < 1434929182 999804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .doorstop < 1434929183 618278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: .doorstop: No such file or directory < 1434929207 2620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .doorstop < 1434929207 802953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1434929209 947837 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks learn you < 1434929210 565237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, learn you. Thearn you. < 1434929221 556366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why didn't you tell me twhh < 1434929277 461666 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so much more rewarding to figure stuff out oneself (I didn't. sigh) < 1434929319 846684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks for nothing, FireFly < 1434929320 466984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, for nothing, FireFly. Thor nothing, FireFly. < 1434929443 612429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hug FireFly < 1434929444 229818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hug: not found < 1434929448 669963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug FireFly < 1434929448 772747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1434929451 173922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better < 1434929459 731337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits quotes < 1434929461 891569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan coppro boily boily boily ais523 Taneb oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 Taneb oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan int-e coppro elliott elliott oerjan oerjan elliott elliott elliott fizzie fizzie elliott_ oerjan oerjan fizzie int-e GeekD < 1434929520 132630 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -r 6 < 1434929521 740792 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 6:ccdf9cad822f \ parent: 5:63d2d701a0e1 \ parent: 4:b606d4f08d31 \ user: HackBot \ date: Wed Feb 22 16:59:18 2012 +0000 \ summary: branch merge < 1434929530 999203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ranc < 1434929531 536969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ranc. Thanc. < 1434929712 540816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | grep -v '<' < 1434929756 870830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434929763 31438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | grep -v '<' < 1434929766 761822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: testing manually \ summary: - \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch merge \ summary: branch m < 1434929769 635228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks estin < 1434929771 48464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, estin. Thestin. < 1434929829 671145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits useless_file.txt < 1434929830 980155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie estin < 1434929905 362833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wtf wtf < 1434929905 955874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wtf is like wtf < 1434930054 322893 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which wtf < 1434930055 298138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wtf < 1434930061 922095 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wtf < 1434930062 577573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "why $1 is like wtf" < 1434930438 588850 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434930643 829146 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ants < 1434930644 458426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ants. Thants. < 1434930646 589034 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1434930649 205706 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bless ants < 1434930649 843558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bless: not found < 1434930652 160592 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blessyou ants < 1434930652 691574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: blessyou: not found < 1434930654 983273 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thanks < 1434930655 626641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1434930681 218436 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks springs < 1434930681 843997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, springs. Things. < 1434930745 640672 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks frglbr < 1434930746 278632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, frglbr. Trglbr. < 1434930826 467654 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks abcdefg < 1434930827 314427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, abcdefg. Thabcdefg. < 1434930900 972830 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's_Thanks_Bless you_' -e 's_/Th/_/Bl/_' -e 's_/T/_/B/_' < bin/thanks > bin/blessyou < 1434930906 466752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434930909 155475 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blessyou ants < 1434930909 749251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/blessyou: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/blessyou: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1434930916 627665 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/blessyou < 1434930918 284393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1434930919 109978 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blessyou ants < 1434930919 728779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bless you, ants. Blants. < 1434930926 838133 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blessyou frlgbr < 1434930927 438182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bless you, frlgbr. Brlgbr. < 1434930936 202540 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks sed < 1434930936 764398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, sed. Thed. < 1434931052 891376 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you simulate add, sub, mul, div in mov instructions < 1434931075 646627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you pretty much have two options. < 1434931098 802560 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :One, use special registers that automatically add, subtract, whatever you write to them. < 1434931105 244201 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The WireWorld solution.) < 1434931144 270375 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two, forget about performing arithmetic with words, and instead represent a number using several words. < 1434931169 287659 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The ByteByteJump solution.) < 1434931183 494088 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1434931238 106784 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I don't think you really have to do that with ByteByteJump. < 1434931257 968884 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want to add or multiply two bytes in ByteByteJump, you have to do it using a lookup table. < 1434931348 36681 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was forgetting that ByteByteJump allows you to break up a word into its component bytes. < 1434931512 433599 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434931524 658183 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434931751 706971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn nitia is the creator of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1434931756 383054 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nitia': nitia is the creator of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1434931954 213510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434931974 722019 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434932422 552099 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434932505 501951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434932547 136034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1434932558 152647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434932857 690869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434932968 504246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what /HNAP1/ and /TEADevInfo/ are? < 1434933174 891759 :YokeOfIdea!~yokeofide@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434933411 256026 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unicode® 9.0.5, Supplementary Private Use Area A, Block U+F3000..U+F37FF, "People Who Are Also Code Points Somehow"" < 1434933770 347114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are also code points? < 1434933808 985123 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best known example is probably Bill Clinton, U+F3202. < 1434934003 42672 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434934302 507904 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter.com/qntm < 1434934747 413475 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434934749 284909 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1434934753 917845 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My drive is corrupted < 1434934949 740207 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Client Quit < 1434934978 436733 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434935089 341937 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Client Quit < 1434935099 808839 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware or software problem? If hardware, my advice (that I got from others yelling at me) is to stop using it until ready to recover all data < 1434935147 460662 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434935193 18316 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1434935447 466742 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware or software problem? If hardware, my advice (that I got from others yelling at me) is to stop using it until ready to recover all data < 1434935485 134759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Are you a hardcore PC gamer yet? < 1434935558 48412 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most games I play these days don't use the GPU that extensively, and the one thing that will next year (Oculus Rift CV1) requires a GPU more powerful than the one in this expensive machine :( < 1434935973 583726 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what error it was < 1434935991 507229 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already took it to the geek squad and they couldn't fix it < 1434936022 140205 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or more accurately, couldn't recover the data < 1434936029 576238 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're going to try somewhere else < 1434936038 487318 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily I've been saving EVERYTHING on github < 1434936470 878460 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including passwords? < 1434936611 969270 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434936766 395360 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434936801 877126 :hppavilion1!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434936811 123057 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1434936813 660102 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even passwords < 1434936814 317029 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1434937322 49942 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434937382 18508 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434938137 712810 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the passwords? Especially the passwords! < 1434938427 1885 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1434939398 140358 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1434939398 194273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1434939934 443208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ASCII art/mandelbrot14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43257 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+2850) 10Created page with "<pre> .; '^e ._\ ..." < 1434939954 223207 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SACERDOTAL CHICKEN < 1434941116 604616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434941521 563651 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434941521 775860 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434941523 198204 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434941941 71977 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: You still on? < 1434942288 511562 :hppavilion1_!a6895a7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.90.123 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1434943325 461817 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434943543 530305 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone, I think I might have stumbled upon the most important truth of the universe. < 1434943555 10068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure there is such a thing? < 1434943559 892347 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1434943603 902229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to write it down, what is what you believe is most important truth of the universe? (If so, then probably it isn't, but mention it anyways) < 1434943609 516951 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy... dangi < 1434943631 95695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why probably it isn't? < 1434943642 83518 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware advice: Do the opposite of any hardware advice I give. < 1434943696 950524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's just my opinion though. Don't let that to stop you from trying to figure out such things. < 1434943710 547018 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme try to state one aspect of it. < 1434943803 224521 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All meaningful beliefs (regardless of whether or not they're mathematically well-defined) amount to a belief in the existence of an instance of a given class of phenomena. < 1434943808 231488 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, this point of view is useful. < 1434943833 22883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is existence a property? < 1434943864 725792 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I have no right to claim that this point of view *actually is* useful. It kinda feels that way, but I have no evidence or arguments backing this feeling up. < 1434943866 571634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. is it true that everything exists, or that there are some things that exist and there are other things that don't exist? < 1434943914 481348 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say the former. There's no such thing as a "thing that doesn't exist". < 1434943951 83774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raymond Smullyan talks about it in _5000 B.C._ < 1434944155 396621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be so sure...there is the kind of physical existence, and mathematical existence, and multiverses, and whatever; and then when you come to "GOD exists" it is such unclear what "existence" even is here (as well as what "GOD" even is here, but that's not the point). < 1434944179 558695 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of reading spinoza < 1434944204 526494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "GOD" different from other capitalizations? < 1434944217 617326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1434944253 524734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that way to hope to make it clear to me at least, because I am panendeist and not like many other people's idea of "God" anyways, so I make it full caps < 1434944303 913656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am not even an ordinary panendeist either really, I suppose...?) < 1434944612 432666 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know what, pretend I said "occurrence" instead of "existence". < 1434944707 90255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1434944735 525501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean: "... a belief in the occurrence of an instance ..."? < 1434944769 842665 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1434944781 687082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1434945127 446926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What non-meaningful beliefs exist in the wild? < 1434945156 871092 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1434945174 825106 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beliefs that have false presuppositions would be one example. < 1434945194 306977 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose someone believes, for no reason, that they have a daughter, and that their daughter has red hair. < 1434945217 892595 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The belief that their daughter has red hair is non-meaningful, because they don't have a daughter. < 1434945237 519366 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, that belief, though meaningless, *does* amount to a belief in the occurrence of an instance of a given class of phenomena. < 1434945246 593744 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That class of phenomena being "redness of hair". < 1434945258 34818 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should say "rednesses of hair". < 1434945273 80128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't even say about meaningless belief, so I suppose it can be OK in case some do. < 1434945280 311462 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the meaningfulness of a belief can hinge solely on the truth-value of another belief? I'm not sure that makes sense < 1434945297 928579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I am not so sure either, actually...? < 1434945329 850513 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm gonna slink back into my channel and revolutionize philosophy. < 1434945365 527828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, write some more book about philosophy. < 1434945412 370006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One book I have about philosophy, one thing it says, someone said you can write a serious philosophical text consisting entirely of jokes. And they also said you can write a serious philosophical text consisting entirely of questions (without answers). < 1434945428 969934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least first one I know is possible because it has been done (the Principia Discordia). < 1434946270 703866 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e JOIN :#esoteric < 1434946271 94445 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434946300 741051 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434947839 576302 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1434949987 662566 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1434950027 731321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He who lives by the sword, dies by the gun. He who lives by the gun, dies by the _______ < 1434950666 8017 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1434950764 483655 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434952270 201877 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Government < 1434952427 495272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atomic bomb < 1434954060 954032 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:5dc0:cd5b:d14c:ba7e QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1434954430 769575 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1434956255 621238 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to sort out my life < 1434956262 263394 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1434956265 128944 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't tend to do anything until I get really frustrated < 1434956330 292034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, "why the hell am I still in bed?" or "why the hell have I not shaved in three weeks?" < 1434956562 463144 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434957193 572489 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434957341 519885 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434957385 936775 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434958413 543083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434958464 919269 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1434958656 352785 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hmjjhfgdvvohyltl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434958739 298672 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-aqsnowzgkpnzixac QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434958743 330908 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hmjjhfgdvvohyltl NICK :heroux < 1434958759 676849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask tswett Just to clear something up, are you physically larger than the average person twh < 1434958759 730654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434959110 452241 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1434959140 883276 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434959152 205905 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1434959152 259692 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434959310 404387 :o-rin!~root@nrba4-55.onlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1434959675 429724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959692 394608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434959717 664402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959723 99257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434959729 958349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1434959737 748530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959738 504596 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who told you this? < 1434959746 364627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1434959780 480292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf <shachaf> oerjan: what's all this <-- I don't remember hth < 1434959780 534091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434959836 351881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg log wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959839 109735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: unknown command 'log wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR' \ Mercurial Distributed SCM \ \ basic commands: \ \ add add the specified files on the next commit \ annotate show changeset information by line for each file \ clone make a copy of an existing repository \ commit commit the specified files or all outstanding changes \ d < 1434959845 946563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1434959854 103765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959855 226950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 5014:66f6a5ade413 \ user: HackBot \ date: Thu Oct 02 04:37:09 2014 +0000 \ summary: <oerjan> echo \'Who told you this?\' >wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434959865 191050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very illuminating < 1434960141 90512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1434960142 165337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is 'PlayItSweetly,TakeMeDown,Oh,Jazzman' < 1434960156 513911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/password < 1434960159 975545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ < 1434960287 27673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf Actually, it was the password. Ask mroman_. < 1434960287 118151 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434960393 257308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/'irrelevant info' < 1434960394 489112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 10485760 Apr 15 07:51 wisdom/irrelevant info < 1434960769 125252 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434961005 304683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t base < 1434961006 305436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral a, Applicative f, Choice p) => Int -> p a (f a) -> p String (f String) < 1434961026 398175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (#) < 1434961027 447646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘)’ < 1434961034 84044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ( #) < 1434961035 112867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘#)’ < 1434961037 141728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ( # ) < 1434961038 48215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AReview t b -> b -> t < 1434961918 487023 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434962133 561058 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434962143 563895 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have shaved a sheep. https://twitter.com/J_Arcane/status/612890396985831424 < 1434962150 901750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<int-e> (but it had survived for 55 months) <-- shachaf can be so brutal :( < 1434962254 435807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1434962254 950208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1434962344 569517 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434962356 862687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434962403 956755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf <shachaf> oerjan: why didn't you tell me twhh <-- (1) i didn't realize (2) it was your program (3) i don't really know awk hth < 1434962404 13348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434962482 802470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1434962483 728535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the creator of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1434962495 84924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am too late :( < 1434964860 305378 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.86 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1434966955 64666 :qlkzy_!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com NICK :qlkzy < 1434967119 939851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :World War Z was a very disappointing movie. < 1434967168 502819 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just recently in the cinemas... but it appears to be from 2013 o_O < 1434967221 318508 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :World War Z (2013) - IMDb < 1434967255 598604 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice movie sense < 1434967268 203795 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my memory. < 1434967276 197754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mixes up things in time. < 1434967408 311160 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside of what you presumed, when you experienced it you judged it correctly :D < 1434967444 156804 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombie outbreak yet brad pitt catches 4 flights crashes and survives all of them < 1434967504 446325 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :super fast walking zombies < 1434967524 70465 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434967554 367937 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zombies make no sense. < 1434967560 995805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are supposedly "undead". < 1434967589 619386 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :undead should be a synonym for "alive". < 1434967643 373873 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make somebody undead: Infect the person with rabbies and make it not feel pain < 1434967644 317156 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1434967668 356324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :People infected with rabbies behave really cool < 1434967680 743528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rabies < 1434967744 695925 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can lay dormant for 5 years < 1434967784 66073 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the zombies in World War Z in which zombification happens in a matter of seconds. < 1434967840 834709 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^imdb < 1434967848 880496 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434967890 358691 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1434967893 102017 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thor is from 2011? < 1434967900 573260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1434967954 902099 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just wake up from hypersleep? < 1434967961 44282 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was supposed to be a guy to greet you < 1434967972 929105 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1434967984 763285 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that my job < 1434968052 729462 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you often in #esoteric? < 1434968087 47083 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1434968088 508538 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where's elliot < 1434968094 529572 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know why im here < 1434968151 407134 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434968350 57964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1434968363 747347 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember watching Fast & Furiuos 7 < 1434968400 704812 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I remember it as pretty boring < 1434968413 88528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very unrealistic. < 1434968693 997038 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969541 151356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<mroman_> It mixes up things in time. <-- do you remember things from the future? inquiring minds want to know! < 1434969561 669534 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. mroman_'s a time-travelling agent? < 1434969610 164804 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhm... no. < 1434969639 225356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: his memory is disconnected from time < 1434969655 63695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1434969662 621227 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969662 800740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969662 910819 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969662 964764 :kenj0!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969663 18461 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969663 243953 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969663 316211 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969663 432982 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969663 527025 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1434969671 118640 :qlkzy_!~qlkzy@176.58.127.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969671 352716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one was ever called Elliot. < 1434969674 804616 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969680 469085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1434969682 474034 :v4s!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969687 921978 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969688 874163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: hth < 1434969696 518460 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969696 614204 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliot < 1434969697 327038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1434969697 380838 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969701 38463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know where elliott is either... < 1434969730 10528 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434969766 933937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliott < 1434969767 626450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliott? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434969789 45047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Learn Eliott completes the set of stupid spellings. < 1434969789 598100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Learn: not found < 1434969794 172647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliott completes the set of stupid spellings. < 1434969797 7257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliott': Eliott completes the set of stupid spellings. < 1434969844 27701 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen him in a while. < 1434969860 815156 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott where do you happen to be at hth < 1434969860 916760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434969881 890316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik he's not been on freenode at all for a while, so lambdabot is unlikely to help < 1434970137 407598 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434971121 860063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We provide source code distributions in a variety of archive types. Generally, speaking, Windows users should download .zip files. Users of all other operating systems should download .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 files." -- huh, why would I do that? if it's mostly source code, the .bz2 files will be 60% the size of the .zip files, I won't download zips even on windows when the bz2 is there. < 1434971167 564701 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because windows users need a program to extract tar.bz2 that isn't typically there? < 1434971187 692839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there. it's among the first thing I install, ever. < 1434971197 860742 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you do < 1434971211 886200 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if I want to download this source code thing from the internet, I may as well download 7z first < 1434971221 462722 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, >you< install it. < 1434971253 994672 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do you pay per MB of bandwidth? < 1434971286 356083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: the bandwidth doesn't matter, but my disk space isn't free, and I won't recompress everything I download < 1434971302 506163 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do you pay for disk space per MB? $0.02 ? < 1434971331 411681 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's a company machine, disk space there costs much more than on my home machine < 1434971370 651121 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the company charge you extra? < 1434971404 173102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have like four gigabytes of installers, many of them large tarballs or zips of a hundred megabyte size, though they're mostly binaries, not source code < 1434971443 506537 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, the compression probably matters only for those few very large installers, not these small ones < 1434971451 986779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for these ones I could get the zip < 1434971478 550126 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100923/640/ancient_computer_ads_640_high_08.jpg < 1434971567 451271 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 8GB pendrive costs $5 on ebay < 1434971610 546263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, the kind that's slow and unreliable. storage costs much more when you want it fast and redundant with backups. < 1434971688 447993 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you don't get something for nothing < 1434971709 790747 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for redundancy, you'd need 2 pendrives. that'd be $10. < 1434971763 840550 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Google Drive, gives you 15 GB storage for free. < 1434971792 318829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1434971913 358038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be ridiculous, I have 700 gigabytes of data just on this workstation, half of it hard to reproduce video data, I need real hard disks, fast and reliable, not pendrive junk < 1434971985 945807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those cost about 128 EUR per two terabyte disk < 1434972004 645986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's an approximate prize, not an offer) < 1434972023 857182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imagine "not for sale" written accross the image in red letters) < 1434972181 951556 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434972328 718737 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Average Cost Per Gigabyte" - year 2014: $0.03 < 1434972339 203079 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.statisticbrain.com/average-cost-of-hard-drive-storage/ < 1434972380 719877 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you whine about some 1MB installer being .zip and not .bz2 < 1434972394 93685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not some 1 MB installer. I said I have 100 MB installers. < 1434972397 225781 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/installer/source package/ < 1434972400 434109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1 MB installers don't matter < 1434972418 162267 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... if 1 GB HDD storage costs $0.03, then.... 100 MB installers storage cost is.. $0.003 < 1434972424 404673 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than the price of a chewing gum < 1434972461 789880 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have 2 terabyte disks anyways, to store your 700 GB of videos < 1434972474 553546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, twice as much, the "average cost per gigabyte" is made up mostly of unreliable or slow hard disks, or hard disks bought in hundreds for data centers in which case they get it cheaper < 1434972487 813730 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, sorry. then it costs $0.006 < 1434972491 806609 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost a cent < 1434972503 753134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, 400 GB of videos locally on this workstation, there's more on the big servers < 1434972513 118992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other 300 GB is not videos but miscellaneous data < 1434972528 103973 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MOAT CHICKEN < 1434972551 238966 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anf you have "like four gigabytes of installers" < 1434972553 378916 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1434972561 929760 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's <1% of all your data on your local workstation < 1434972590 232711 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculating with double of 'average price of HDD per gigabyte', that'd cost you $0.24 in storage < 1434972728 108999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not less than 1%, because I have about 4 gigabytes of installers total < 1434972734 945113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 2% < 1434972738 808689 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1434972743 474789 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have 400 GB of videos. 4 GB is 1% of 400 GB < 1434972752 112194 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have 400 GB of videos and 300 GB of other data, that's 700 GB < 1434972781 708019 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 GB out of 700GB, is 0.14%. < 1434972796 885605 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even one percent. < 1434972811 547146 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i mean... < 1434972823 286366 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 GB out of 700 GB, that's 0.57%. < 1434972855 28399 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your total storage is 2 TB, then 4 GB installers consume 0.2% of your total storage. < 1434972875 730147 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your 2 TB storage cost 128 EUR, then 0.2% of 128 EUR cost 0.25 EUR. < 1434972892 215572 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average cost per gigabyte of mirrored, backed-up, network-attached storage is more like $0.1 per month < 1434973056 245663 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like amazon s3 goes with $0.03 (not including backup) < 1434973068 45115 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, b_jonas's 4 GB of installers mirrored, backed-up, network-attached storage cost would be $0.4 per month. < 1434973126 355906 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding 100 MB to it increases monthly cost by $0.01 per month, or one cent per month. < 1434973173 165365 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. Note that unpacking the source tarball is going to use the same amount of space at any rate, so whatever < 1434973579 476684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't modern filesystems use compression anyway? < 1434973612 710331 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessariyl < 1434973635 55312 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some may do, but afaik it's optional, not by default < 1434973658 303835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no, at least not by default because that would be slow, and definitely not the kind of strong compression that would recompress a zip archive to a bz2 archive < 1434973659 473247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which ones do? < 1434973689 910518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be the default because it's often slow < 1434973705 845228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS can do it < 1434973706 130271 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1434973709 177225 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's optional. < 1434973718 59506 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can configure it per folder < 1434973742 177663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: sure, but most large files that make sense to be compressed are compressed anyawy < 1434973743 283995 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the only "modern filesystem" in common use that does < 1434973759 606294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I said, 400 gigabytes of videos on this workstation, and those are all compressed < 1434973770 950501 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by filesystem < 1434973772 626650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the rest of large data is compressed too < 1434973780 211540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, not by the filesystem, but in a lossy way < 1434973856 475284 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undoubtedly trying to compress already compressed audio/video files probably won't do much < 1434973890 381400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and things that would benefit from compression is usually very small and HDDs today are huge < 1434973893 436451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: well, I've seen messed up video files where it would help, but yes < 1434973904 839592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these aren't that < 1434973922 204382 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most multimedia formats dont' compress well (because, already compressed usually) < 1434973922 258158 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if you could get some extra compression if you do it not on a file basis < 1434973928 590792 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on a more global basis < 1434973937 274161 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as HDD sectors and what not < 1434973937 629875 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :textfiles compress well < 1434973940 786448 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, SSD firmwares have tried to do data compression. That experience has shown us all why it's generally a bad idea < 1434973941 197916 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are usually small. < 1434973970 479797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Ah. Ok. < 1434973986 352220 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some file systems allow mounting a .zip or .tar.gz < 1434973987 817598 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(File sizes become unpredictable, and compression code is complicated and buggy, adjectives you don't want in a filesystem or block device) < 1434974023 244721 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even bzip2 < 1434974064 211844 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: "TrueZIP is a Java based virtual file system (VFS) which enables client applications to perform CRUD (Create, Read, Update, Delete) operations on archive files as if they were virtual directories, even with nested archive files in multithreaded environments" < 1434974128 47885 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434974159 981188 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds terrible for performance < 1434974240 937817 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1434974263 437483 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also some google userspace fs based on google mail or something < 1434974282 690638 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also on my windows there's this weird cloud folder < 1434974306 562063 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :SkyDrive(tm)(r) < 1434974318 552720 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, compression always decreases performance. there's no free lunch < 1434974346 78537 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no way to update a file in a zip archive in place < 1434974360 421659 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet they do it somehow. < 1434974385 973158 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to either move all the later files, or append the new file to the end and leave a hole in the archive < 1434974401 42440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a file size changes you can insert a comment between it and the next file < 1434974418 813630 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not if the size increases < 1434974432 49509 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you leave a hole and append at end. < 1434974434 246597 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, maybe you can move some of the other files to the end?) < 1434974440 90009 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you write another, smaller file, then you fill the hole. < 1434974553 457639 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what filesystems do anyway :) < 1434974557 341947 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1434974559 285365 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is terrible for performance because it can lead to unbounded fragmentation < 1434974559 956462 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old ones < 1434974568 356955 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sucky ones < 1434974575 803314 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, filesystems allocate files in blocks < 1434974585 566621 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: just like with traditional filesystems. < 1434974593 676166 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern ones fragment less < 1434974626 25108 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but can lead to other problems, like ext4 delayed allocation can cause data loss if there's a power outage) < 1434974634 361064 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I know. < 1434974652 251823 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: so filesystems waste an entire block, even if you write 1 byte :) < 1434974665 398305 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still bounded (and internal) fragmentation < 1434974709 269624 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe trueZIP defragments .zip files. < 1434974724 761766 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how you defragment disks in windows... < 1434974730 44884 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1434974743 73849 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'all heard of 3d fractals? < 1434974752 121608 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even very old filesystems, such as the ones in Version 7 Unix, use block allocation for files) < 1434974770 464067 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one said the contrary. < 1434974793 710332 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't do that with zip archives. < 1434974815 466342 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :punch card file systems ftw < 1434974864 965435 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the point of 'allocating blocks' with zip archives? the point of zip archives is files to be small, not to waste an entire block even for a tiny file < 1434974870 302388 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd defeat its purpose < 1434974880 953190 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PART :#esoteric < 1434974909 714440 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, so treating a zip archive like a filesystem is inherently a bad idea < 1434974913 844931 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some FS let you configure the cluster sizes < 1434974927 255865 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on if you have a lot of small sizes or a bunch of huge files < 1434974930 678223 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: when it's read-only, it's actually not a bad idea < 1434974932 852892 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*small files < 1434974941 601434 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys talking about physfs? < 1434974958 834680 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd foo.tar.gz < 1434974960 237468 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -lah < 1434974963 296541 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be cool < 1434974976 564452 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp foo.tar.gz/toextract.txt ./ < 1434974987 187215 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some fuse fs could do it < 1434974993 289496 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't need this weird tar util anymore < 1434975010 594644 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, most modern filesystems just inline small files into the inode or squash multiple files into one block < 1434975016 310322 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: there's zcat < 1434975017 312029 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1434975051 898540 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zcat foo.tar.gz >toextract.txt < 1434975188 750009 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though tar uses ascii, I don't think that's normally what you want < 1434975243 753202 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :extension said .txt < 1434975247 627033 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that normally implies ASCII < 1434975268 212972 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not normally imply that an entire tar file is inside it, though. < 1434975287 127809 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, then zcat foo.gz >toextract.txt < 1434975380 313646 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, you might as well use gunzip -c which actually does unpack gzip files (as opposed to zcat which may not work with gzip format on some systems) < 1434975410 336748 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. < 1434975483 534759 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1434975486 402955 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar can ungzip as well < 1434975540 989489 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the z option < 1434975543 769797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in xvz < 1434975702 296690 :qlkzy_!~qlkzy@176.58.127.28 NICK :qlkzy < 1434975784 9091 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434976177 254000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1434976454 621421 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434976510 236602 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1434976600 28627 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1434978954 758913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought you realized. Never mind. < 1434978977 919645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was mostly wondering why a wisdom/ entry inaccessible with `? exists. < 1434978988 586311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Apparently you know? < 1434979024 791427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should create a better entry for nitia twh < 1434980276 720423 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434980479 394151 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Know what? < 1434980516 717184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434980517 353813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who told you this? < 1434980541 842121 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the password. < 1434980562 918570 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have asked the mighty machine for the password < 1434980574 565809 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the password is XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434980580 672004 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet, it couldn't say what for. < 1434980728 402021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: that's impossible. there's only one Q tile, and words longer than 15 letters can't fit on the board < 1434980757 236868 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR" < 1434980758 749316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16 < 1434980769 242695 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 doesn't exist in the 2^n system < 1434980782 31120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for integer n) < 1434980981 435278 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qzyzzalroum < 1434980982 304613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should start the crossword over. < 1434981318 107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: but it's inaccessible with `? tdnh < 1434981364 977346 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hthth < 1434981742 825996 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messeses-loud < 1434981742 971649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 6h 23m 3s ago: Just to clear something up, are you physically larger than the average person twh < 1434981759 956779 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Yes (due primarily to lean mass). < 1434981760 10570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1434981933 547639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1434981933 650356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 9m 13s ago: <shachaf> oerjan: what's all this <-- I don't remember hth < 1434981933 704208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 47s ago: Actually, it was the password. Ask mroman_. < 1434981933 704270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5h 25m 30s ago: <shachaf> oerjan: why didn't you tell me twhh <-- (1) i didn't realize (2) it was your program (3) i don't really know awk hth < 1434981966 549714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't really know awk either and i thought the program was matching on <> because i'd already forgotten how it worked hth < 1434982032 33013 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1434983142 260330 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434983280 92580 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1434983290 309714 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434983291 30618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434983299 241675 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1434983300 896286 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is funny < 1434983317 5268 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it fits. < 1434983322 565178 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since we don't know what it's for. < 1434983360 272711 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/XQ* < 1434983361 96156 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/XQ*: No such file or directory < 1434983368 398188 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -lah wisdom/ < 1434983369 129001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead. < 1434983376 550176 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1434983391 623202 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1434983418 925095 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1434983471 591648 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1434983481 99138 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's probably because ? does a lower-case < 1434983497 883775 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the file is upper-case < 1434983505 763351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1434983523 737764 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally, the password is upper-case < 1434983529 289407 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so making it lower-case would be totally wrong < 1434984467 62108 :ThePendulum!~ThePendul@54195818.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1434984470 447610 :ThePendulum!~ThePendul@54195818.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PART :#esoteric < 1434984886 254587 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/XQ* < 1434984887 72746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434984899 452711 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434984900 169121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1434984904 978395 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR < 1434984905 548433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who told you this? < 1434984944 487547 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1434984974 236573 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I was planning to say or do something. < 1434985107 341252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool. < 1434985131 302516 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as cool as playing video games while dissociating < 1434985209 641957 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1434985442 802361 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1434985592 262937 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/XQ* < 1434985598 348573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1434985609 36222 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom < 1434985611 35638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan shachaf shachaf tswett oerjan oerjan oerjan hppavilion1 shachaf tswett oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman oerjan oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf orenn orenn ais523 shachaf shachaf tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf hppavilion1 hppavilion1_ coppro ais523 Taneb oerjan tswett orenn shac < 1434985680 140833 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how do I make your country stop being terrible? < 1434985712 24892 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stopping it from existing < 1434985816 684808 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434985873 867096 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, dissociated gaming is the best. < 1434986191 890575 :hilquias!~user@187.59.244.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434986195 728566 :hilquias!~user@187.59.244.172 QUIT :Changing host < 1434986195 782317 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434986489 651053 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/ASCII_art/mandelbrot < 1434986582 623949 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gibberish/JavaScript/HTML_interpreter I find spam here < 1434986602 639087 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless yunpan is not spam < 1434987206 21099 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :read more carefully < 1434987237 328519 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not spam, it's just the authors of those articles have trouble communicating in english < 1434987244 760435 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434987257 779753 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on behalf of that person, I feel offended. < 1434987270 68837 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1434987308 311319 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1434987778 69762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43258&oldid=43241 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+50) 10/* Arithmetic */ isn't Table code... < 1434987859 533315 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hmjjhfgdvvohyltl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434987865 466530 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434988443 866250 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1434988844 421076 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1434988882 526278 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.32.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434989323 460141 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1434990477 158231 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a TC esolang that uses every chinese kanji for a different thing, and is not turing complete if any one character is removed from the language < 1434990631 869728 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be hard enough for every number from 0 to 9, wouldn't it? < 1434990653 628704 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes very hard < 1434990659 855233 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :espelically if oerjan is around < 1434990892 661835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434990893 720553 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1434990898 284624 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1434990941 727471 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1434991474 362777 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434991514 376402 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kxiekluuepjvmnbm JOIN :#esoteric < 1434991779 40782 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.32.144 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434991784 105532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1434991909 828375 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1434992397 692707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the name for good features where you had to implement nothing for the feature to work, it just fell out from the rest of the design? < 1434992400 118897 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434992480 272321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an example I'm fond of is quantity control in eye drops. no matter how much liquid you get into your eyes from an eye drops, the right amount will remain in your eyes and the extra will flow out on the bottom because your eyes just can't hold it. so the quantity is entirely self-regulating, and the container doesn't have to do anything for this. < 1434992495 703810 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a result, the only way to take too much eye drops is if you use it too frequently. < 1434992522 908561 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1434992524 619583 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434992531 930760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are some ways to take too few eye drops, or the wrong type, or use it when you shouldn't use it at all of course) < 1434993093 435793 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I dunno. < 1434993148 843880 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1434994902 666182 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's because eyes have their own lubricating system built in < 1434994935 2808 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And given people cry sometimes, that has to drain properly < 1434994955 343604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes, but it's free for the eyedrops < 1434995007 840262 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you didn't do anything for a feature, is it your feature? < 1434995623 114430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1434996225 84372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1434996262 588011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :'( < 1434996524 186390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434996974 938947 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434997172 568661 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1434997192 130689 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1434997271 119840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1434997313 578481 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1434997672 283617 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1434997779 757264 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1434997810 283156 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1434997827 861051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434997923 202532 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :( < 1434997965 499016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: When did you say you're moving here? < 1434998109 466006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1434998145 441799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just rebooted because the network adapter was malfunctioning < 1434998155 573067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and remembered to check the parent PID of Abiword this time < 1434998157 743443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is… upstart! < 1434998170 978792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434998171 945834 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1434998181 400866 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tohught ubuntu is using systmed < 1434998181 803432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling that upstart is upset that this is a systemd system now < 1434998185 572512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: it is < 1434998188 430829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's using upstart too somehow < 1434998189 910962 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1434998190 679877 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1434998191 945434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when upstart is being upstart, not init < 1434998195 353078 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck... < 1434998197 158740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just utterly craz < 1434998200 578732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crazy < 1434998207 614630 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can delete upstart < 1434998209 84139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or this is some sort of malware pretending to be upstart < 1434998217 255115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't get why malware would open abiword < 1434998226 206668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are you sure nitia didn't start it up? < 1434998269 481264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :upstart's parent is /usr/sbin/lightdm (running as root, not ais523) < 1434998280 620725 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's great < 1434998286 778789 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe trollware? < 1434998288 406121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lightdm has caused problems for me too < 1434998305 455480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all lightdm does is run your desktop environment thing. < 1434998337 49414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the only time the boot failed < 1434998341 344494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightdm was involved somehow < 1434998348 142694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tried to start for about 30 seconds, gave up < 1434998353 534312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then did a clean shutdown of the system < 1434998423 193756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but up until now I hadn't made the connection that lightdm = gdm equivalent, not metacity/compiz equivalent < 1434998476 989605 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of lightdm behaving like that < 1434998528 185990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well you can easily blame systemd, or even plymouth (I was reading the messages that boot, which might be related) < 1434998811 163258 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Soon". < 1434998823 399889 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next couple weeks or so? < 1434999000 955318 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there's the phrase "happy accident", but that's sort of informal. < 1434999050 860791 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should call it an "accidental feature". < 1434999571 400485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1434999699 994373 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1434999760 225448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an international campaign to outlaw subwoofers i think twh in this building < 1434999774 71523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1434999774 125383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett said 5h 14s ago: Yes (due primarily to lean mass). < 1434999820 441794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sgtm < 1434999852 425044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :international campaign to outlaw subwoofers in oerjan's building < 1434999886 456287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :subwoofers are terrible. worse than dogs. < 1434999896 334821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs are just regular woofers < 1434999898 869466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately dogs are p. good so that's not saying v. much < 1435000089 360901 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superwoofers? < 1435000363 699804 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/relevant-stories/rel-chapter-1-907ff616bf80 < 1435000398 417103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nortti < 1435000403 410340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I was mixing you up with nitia. < 1435000415 436975 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1435000415 861381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I thought that was a real nick or something. < 1435000433 434304 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia? < 1435000444 621604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is gone. :-( < 1435000457 636449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia created a bunch of files in the HackEgo repository. < 1435000469 859713 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1435000474 79299 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not them < 1435000479 93730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to `culprits < 1435000487 881150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a broken script. < 1435000499 555359 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as? < 1435000506 408143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes up people like nitia and estin < 1435000514 942171 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1435000519 79653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fix HackEgo twh < 1435000531 53903 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that URL supposed to be relevant? < 1435000552 615277 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that url is irrelevant, but on relevant < 1435000600 505373 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that json-based lang they created seemes esoteric-y < 1435000652 606592 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1435000660 552283 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :json language < 1435000698 50250 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435000738 461238 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought we have to ping fizzie or elliott for that < 1435000756 804879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Guest62171? < 1435000774 208891 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no longer run by gregor? < 1435000788 441790 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435000804 681681 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks like one of those languages that should have remained esoteric < 1435000807 679277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how the esolangs.org takeover is going < 1435000965 848357 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this 100% looks like a esolang < 1435000991 204412 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually worse though < 1435001233 145653 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435001319 405156 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :XSLT for TC XML < 1435001325 577870 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stupid thing for TC JSON < 1435001330 482865 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that CA thing for TC CSS < 1435001340 443843 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get a full stack of tc languages < 1435001363 767543 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric : "_RETURN":{"_MATH":"{foo}+{var}"} < 1435001372 739100 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function “_MATH”, from the above example, parses a string into a mathematical expression and returns its result. < 1435001381 556531 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats legit < 1435001388 864584 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what happens if you want to name something starting with an _ < 1435001395 78700 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds better than javascript < 1435001427 595567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<int-e> shachaf: I thought we have to ping fizzie or elliott for that <-- Gregor, not elliott. < 1435001441 73018 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the sort of programming language that you invent by accident. < 1435001455 126826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macro-RDF for TC RDF < 1435001467 291652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it seems to me that pinging any of those three is about equally effective hth < 1435001487 204419 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make sure to use sendmail for mailing your webapp's users and you're good to go < 1435001639 1241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ :return [ :add _:foo, _:bar ] ] < 1435001639 634575 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: |syntax error < 1435001639 688457 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: | :return[ :add _:foo,_:bar]] < 1435001657 790787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if it is syntax error, that's fine with me < 1435001859 762013 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435001896 122257 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435002019 637554 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435002121 830070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> oerjan: it seems to me that pinging any of those three is about equally effective hth <-- that is true. although elliott isn't even on the network. < 1435002147 175924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nevertheless hth < 1435002175 580914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ping < 1435002178 85450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest62171: ping < 1435002259 956786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ping < 1435002341 163440 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435002373 258585 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435002560 196814 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435002852 68526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has disappeared into the google black hole hth < 1435003055 643568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 64 < 1435003066 245899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, here it is. < 1435003118 582552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=HackEgo> danddreclist 64: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1435003153 801904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course shachaf is the only one actually here... < 1435003172 326807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped reading danddreclist a while ago. < 1435003261 466632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, you could modify thutubot to link to HackEgo instead of lambdabot that would help >:P < 1435003270 677969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you still want your name on their though or do you want to remove it afterward? < 1435003275 101289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*twh < 1435003296 373660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not like thutubot's been online in ages < 1435003301 800003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a crazy idea. I think it wouldn't be too difficult to build a sort of distributed vcs layer over svn, < 1435003334 962414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we only had an exploit to actually get HackEgo to reconnect... < 1435003397 977849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you can create branches that track a remote svn repostiroy, and you can fetch to and push to it, and it could even be very compatible with ordinary svn in the sense that you could use ordinary svn for any operation that's within a repository. < 1435003434 67194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as you don't mind it being not as efficient with disk space and caches as a first-class distributed vcs. < 1435003438 76502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There are several versions of this already, aren't there? < 1435003446 812216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think it wouldn't even be very difficult to build such a thing. < 1435003453 360071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :svk, git-svn < 1435003466 224776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know of any. I've seen several that can *pull* but not push. < 1435003489 617768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1435003501 26916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'll have to look at git-svn because I'm not too familiar with it, but I think that's not what I want < 1435003525 81798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's not. < 1435003540 585127 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll have to look at git-svn anyway, because people praise it, even if it's not for this. < 1435003562 732896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I'm not completely sure this is possible, and how hard it is, I'm still trying to figure out the details. < 1435003591 601852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I decide it's not very difficult, I might even try to write such a thing myself, because I like subversion and I'd totally use something like this. < 1435003657 953167 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435003738 33857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1435003748 30099 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cohi pumpkin < 1435003759 547199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like subversion because it is designed well, it has a good interface, and keeps improving all the time. < 1435003797 427962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about working of Subversion < 1435003825 110165 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but it's a CCVS < 1435003845 122274 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err CVCS < 1435003881 724928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is meaning what? < 1435003885 965489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what does that mean? < 1435003891 187868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CVCS"? < 1435003900 454022 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :centralized version control system < 1435003911 605021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, and that's exactly the problem this would fix < 1435003968 386551 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want a cnetralized system to begin with, though? < 1435004034 818588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I said above, because svn is designed and implemented well, it has a good interface, and keeps improving so I get new goodies but all compatibility with every minor version upgrade, < 1435004053 629536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also existing people are using svn so I could use this to existing svn repositories. < 1435004101 705898 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, I like svn, and I think many people who don't like it don't like it because they've got their impressions from older versions of svn (especially ones before 1.5) which weren't as good as current ones are. < 1435004110 606197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to have Subversion in my computer though < 1435004118 593105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can probably install. < 1435004134 418672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the executable is called svn , if you want to check if it's already on < 1435004148 986225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did check that, I don't have it on Cygwin. < 1435004161 395652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the homepage is http://subversion.apache.org/ which tells you how to install < 1435004176 792155 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't know cygwin, I don't know if there's a cygwin version < 1435004181 881307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a native windows version < 1435004210 595874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn is quite portable, they develop it so it works well on windows (unless it's version old versions of windows) as much as that's possible < 1435004220 648347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need a Cygwin version; I just checked there because if I had it, that is where it would be. < 1435004430 167216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and when I said it would be compatible with svn, imagine the disclaimer that that's as long as all the repositories and svn servers are svn 1.5 or later) < 1435004444 565253 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but using svn older than that is a bad idea anyway) < 1435004570 399418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> oerjan: I thought you realized. Never mind. <-- i realized what the nitia entries were but not that it was due to a bug in your program < 1435004584 609541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a feature hth < 1435004656 146376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1435004760 311513 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435005517 741996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if someone made something like this, it might count as esoteric enough for this channel. < 1435005651 30280 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is my favourite user < 1435005724 645942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this nitia person anyway? < 1435005773 776726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/list < 1435005779 705980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1435005799 604313 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nitia < 1435005801 632328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's hard to demonstrate without HackEgo tdnh < 1435005826 269680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, is that the only place it comes from? < 1435005836 49224 :nitia!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435005855 312849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh someone actually nicked to it... < 1435005868 119301 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's mine now < 1435005871 38965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very nortti boy < 1435005884 334639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-NickServ- Information on nitia (account nortti): < 1435006268 244427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still using rsync -e "sudo -u" as a convenient way to copy files between users < 1435006293 820450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sudo cp; sudo chown? < 1435006307 481853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that requires root < 1435006320 399616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works even between two non-root users if I have sudo permissions < 1435006325 508680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the method I use when retrieving read-protected files from nethack4.org is to get the destination user to make an a+r copy < 1435006334 86661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to use root when I don't have to, even if I have root access, to avoid mistakes < 1435006547 26704 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435006622 130880 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435006697 226315 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435006733 477814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435006790 968157 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Changing host < 1435006791 58229 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1435006904 547505 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435007014 311469 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT : < 1435007025 231525 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1435007043 795189 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435007558 205431 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435008195 960221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435008287 605929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435008947 802797 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435008981 631863 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435009133 688750 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435009207 912834 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1435009228 990605 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435009520 924077 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1435009878 185875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435010816 699269 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435010830 765580 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1435011701 407314 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435011711 675716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 991 < 1435011722 365251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 991: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1435011740 309234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome HackEgo < 1435011745 482451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1435011763 137379 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1435012248 358182 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hauts < 1435012253 527273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1435012257 244373 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A French word, pronouned /o/. < 1435012257 416190 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          | < 1435012257 494358 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                         /| < 1435012265 113390 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, myndzi. < 1435012271 791412 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thyndzi. < 1435012486 807508 :sunnymilk!~sunnymilk@unaffiliated/sunnymilk JOIN :#esoteric < 1435013377 182600 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435013506 294922 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1435013516 450385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1435013534 872397 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do? < 1435013550 787039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what? < 1435013574 630207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going? what's up? how's life? < 1435013624 793186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1435013698 119530 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds positive < 1435013881 509534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know hth < 1435013886 704015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your life < 1435013891 526013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we living the same life < 1435014012 688436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1435014050 797816 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435014270 870908 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435016057 991532 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435016079 749059 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435016101 826492 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1435016221 812666 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435017249 360265 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435017392 318080 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435017789 793193 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435019006 975872 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435019075 257117 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435020512 804244 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435022723 397124 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lixutoclepemwqex JOIN :#esoteric < 1435023444 765582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1435023444 819473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1435024204 360946 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-cemstkxybheemlvy JOIN :#esoteric < 1435024256 371913 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kxiekluuepjvmnbm QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435024259 891455 :heroux_!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-cemstkxybheemlvy NICK :heroux < 1435027372 768430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435028254 436422 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435028442 743189 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435028453 380185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435030284 236052 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomly generated error message: < 1435030286 169257 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:37:54: <oerjan> `run echo $ 5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1435030286 223108 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:09:28: <HackEgo> data darn, preceding the complete path < 1435030303 676321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Numberic Underload14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43259 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+275) 10Created page with "'''numberic Underload''' is a [[Underload]] derivative. It has the same instructions but... <pre> Replace ) with 0 Replace ( with 1 Replace ~ with 2 Replace : with 3 ..." < 1435030309 521343 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1435030317 295662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435030320 924030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weetoflake/Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1435030418 606962 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435030434 946657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* 10moved [[02Numberic Underload10]] to [[Numeric Underload]] < 1435030458 261243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Numeric Underload14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43262&oldid=43260 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (-1) 10 < 1435030849 651678 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435030881 479047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435030882 467688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qzyzzalroum/You should start the crossword over. < 1435032028 266702 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435032641 871207 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435033086 266312 :password2!~password@197.77.16.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435033259 462790 :password2!~password@197.77.16.157 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435033310 42779 :password2!~password@197.77.16.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435033751 900400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just avoid adding multipart support for now. It means you can't upload files using a HTML form, although the -T command of cURL can still be used (it also means -F can't be used, but that is OK because you can use -T instead) < 1435035000 724695 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435035374 477076 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435035609 646381 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435035609 895194 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435037356 626634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43263&oldid=43171 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-198) 10Sticker giveaways are on hold indefinitely due to a bad mood. >:c < 1435037543 572287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43264&oldid=43263 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+168) 10 < 1435037688 880110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… there is one problem, but I don't know how big it is < 1435037761 972119 :password2!~password@197.77.16.157 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435038732 417376 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435040390 470341 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435041688 668781 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1435044608 359037 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435044787 304690 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435045728 268127 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435045768 24805 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435048286 388483 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435051509 695224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good morning < 1435052442 865388 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435052521 669671 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435053441 95035 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435054754 135660 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435054812 938726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? code < 1435054829 819481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435054841 840260 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435054924 80526 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn code/5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1435054929 735578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «code» < 1435054951 148645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435055021 872343 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435055112 464382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly ;-) (see what tswett wrote 7 hours ago) < 1435055280 134837 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FJtIABCBBDECBEHFIzCFDCCEHGDGB. < 1435055466 419368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435057140 605892 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435058486 950104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PECTORAL CHICKEN < 1435058658 956041 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435058715 586435 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435058820 580451 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1435060100 987296 :WhatsNew!~WhatsNew@128.199.98.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435060135 248586 :WhatsNew!~WhatsNew@128.199.98.118 QUIT : < 1435063774 585735 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435063848 488785 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435064048 287299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435064213 969655 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435065104 974739 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1435065385 188508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mov14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43265&oldid=43252 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+37) 10Category, some capitalization. < 1435065520 464282 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435065932 235083 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435066715 991596 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435067249 921580 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435067418 930766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Loovjo 5* 10New user account < 1435067685 484440 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://devnull-as-a-service.com/ < 1435067729 438079 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1435067755 770552 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a link < 1435068083 849913 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone here had a quit message "1 found in /dev/zero" < 1435068115 401777 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that's something, /dev/zero as a service < 1435068341 398991 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435068672 81832 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did cat-as-a-service before SaaS was a thing < 1435068682 474875 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc862 < 1435068888 930451 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks very incomplete < 1435068919 779933 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no references < 1435069304 349620 :hilquias`!~user@187.112.14.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435069386 307584 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435069498 439976 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: didn't noentropy.net have that? < 1435069560 688144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for /dev/null as a service, the relevant rfc is http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc863.html which is one after the echo one < 1435069760 96824 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also a /dev/random as a service rfc? < 1435069770 540609 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No data is read, just random garbage sent. < 1435069788 95127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1435069799 185390 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :netfish < 1435069804 163228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just deadfish as a service < 1435069821 447075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no, but there's rfc864 about non-random garbage data sent < 1435069835 229094 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a pattern that's likely mostly deterministic but not precisely defined < 1435069851 17713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goal is to just send junk output regardless the input < 1435069909 441429 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is, if ESOSC should standardize netfish . < 1435069928 528377 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and request a Port from IANA < 1435069933 71352 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however that works? < 1435069935 737811 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who manages ports?) < 1435070022 530925 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's IANA, yeah < 1435070082 696320 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you even want to register a Port there? < 1435070083 517988 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1435070087 899160 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just use any port you want anyway < 1435070384 882168 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please explain why a unique port assignment is necessary as opposed to a port in range (49152-65535) or existing port." < 1435070385 417588 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435070390 930606 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm... < 1435070413 45491 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody have a reason why netfish needs a port in the registered port range? < 1435070501 241671 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need reasons, just money. < 1435070540 684762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make up a number and use it < 1435070554 766615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to be registered < 1435070568 954409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone does that < 1435070676 199021 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's no fun. < 1435070679 852792 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unofficial. < 1435070700 577518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make up a port number but prefix it with X- < 1435070721 499631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use one of those multiple services where there's a meta-service you can query for the addresses of other services? < 1435070728 401502 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people have invented multiple of those < 1435070967 632762 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435071031 53717 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1435071036 255549 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA will inform me in 14 days :) < 1435071190 263914 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435071601 431034 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :port numbers are integers < 1435071606 198201 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435071609 628041 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell am I supposed to prefix them with X-? < 1435072505 362223 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use X-TCP. < 1435072742 676868 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435072763 851224 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1435073017 118965 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435073613 451286 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435073727 345401 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435073773 481440 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1435074137 120698 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435074567 390533 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435074986 755337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Where did . o O come from? < 1435074990 118905 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FakeASM14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43266&oldid=40737 5* 03148.197.42.176 5* (+24) 10 < 1435074992 623475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435074993 838041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand/A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1435075084 47686 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : i'm not sure. possibly i saw it on #scheme. or maybe somewhere else < 1435075108 427400 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ski < 1435075115 330794 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo vanila < 1435075199 185112 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435075416 844288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435075417 627407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot/EgoBot is my arch-nemesis. < 1435075428 662732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435075429 406863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1435075434 818183 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using . o O ( ) even before I discovered IRC. < 1435075627 58533 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the .o( ) variant in some MUD, but didn't like it. < 1435075641 979321 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the general idea must be ancient. < 1435075666 432268 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435075669 761896 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.codes < 1435075679 469318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435075680 340753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork/no < 1435075687 503861 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435075690 606174 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435075700 766272 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good little site < 1435076155 14986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .oO(welcome) < 1435076155 716724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.oO(welcome)? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435076160 198842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .o(welcome) < 1435076160 959707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.o(welcome)? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435076199 280316 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/*[oO]*lcome* < 1435076200 92338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*[oO]*lcome*: No such file or directory < 1435076204 241865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435076244 963224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :____oOOo_(O.O)_oOOo___ < 1435076250 382145 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have a command for defining a welcome variant and registering it in the welcome variant list? < 1435076331 586245 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :ayylmao < 1435076386 516951 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435076461 2394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a welcome variant list? < 1435076555 193632 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1435076555 437993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1435076563 275150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose every command is `welcome, some welcomes are just more mutilated than others < 1435076724 370872 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435076811 950727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't know, but we could try < 1435076827 879092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``grep -l welcome wisdom/* < 1435076828 395652 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `grep: not found < 1435076831 982277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -l welcome wisdom/* < 1435076837 739437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/welcome.bork < 1435076837 903343 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                    | < 1435076837 984157 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                  º¯`\o < 1435076843 372339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shut up < 1435076848 451437 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1435076872 758907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -sl welcome wisdom/* < 1435076873 553347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/welcome.bork < 1435076877 966696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1435076881 538873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -sl elcome wisdom/* < 1435076882 405157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ \ wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/welcome \ wisdom/welcome.bork < 1435076888 566826 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1435076893 621966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1435076894 446111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1435076898 418319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/relcome < 1435076899 78239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/relcome: No such file or directory < 1435076904 32469 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, it's not in wisdom! < 1435076912 457817 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -sl elcome bin/* < 1435076914 859595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right. < 1435076916 303200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/welcome \ bin/WELCOME \ bin/WeLcOmE \ bin/Welcome \ bin/benvenuto \ bin/bienvenido \ bin/elcome \ bin/emoclew \ bin/erypbzr \ bin/jrypbzr \ bin/ozcome \ bin/relcome \ bin/rwelcome \ bin/tervetuloa \ bin/velcome \ bin/wElCoMe \ bin/wehlcohme \ bin/welcome \ bin/welcöme \ bin/wellcome \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/wow \ bin/zalgreet \ bin/ουε < 1435076929 228624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot what the reflection thing does. < 1435076932 987822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -sl elcome bin/* | tail -n+20 < 1435076933 914011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wellcome \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/wow \ bin/zalgreet \ bin/ουελκομε < 1435076947 824486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la wisdom/reflection < 1435076948 583951 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Jun 9 16:46 wisdom/reflection -> /proc/self/cmdline < 1435077108 298332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that too few? < 1435077126 19159 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even list relcome < 1435077132 789850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome me < 1435077133 873233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08me: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07<http://esolangs.org/>. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1435077135 896852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too many. < 1435077140 322773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/relcome < 1435077140 874079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1435077150 769064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, it is in the list < 1435077173 290184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wow < 1435077174 87756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .>/gro.sgnalose//:ptth< :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1435077179 363852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I should have even found it because it's ordered asciibetically, that was the whole point of the ``` < 1435077214 874448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1435077215 668858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .</gro.sgnalose//:ptth> :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1435077224 75516 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fabulous... < 1435077241 46192 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcrhbmiue < 1435077241 636066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gcrhbmiue: not found < 1435077276 633973 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ < 1435077276 797570 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1435077276 876064 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\  |\ /<   |\ /`\ /<  /<  /|  /^\ /<   |\  |\ < 1435077309 690292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`jrypbzr < 1435077310 452357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jrypbzr gb gur vagreangvbany uho sbe rfbgrevp cebtenzzvat ynathntr qrfvta naq qrcyblzrag! Sbe zber vasbezngvba, purpx bhg bhe jvxv: <uggc://rfbynatf.bet/>. (Sbe gur bgure xvaq bs rfbgrevpn, gel #rfbgrevp ba RSarg be QNYarg.) < 1435077318 175753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`celebrate < 1435077318 814125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: celebrate: not found < 1435077331 864360 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1435077338 981265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot!!!1 < 1435077492 717266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1435078072 488480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '<_-\(oO06@)/-_> .'{~20|(5*i.n)?5$~n=.60 < 1435078073 135160 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |domain error < 1435078073 243760 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: | '<_-\(oO06@)/-_> .'{~20|(5*i.n) ?5$~n=.60 < 1435078084 986762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '<_-\(oO06@)/-_> .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.60 < 1435078085 750114 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \6- (0/ _@) \O/ \0- -o> (0).<6/ -@_ (o> <O) <6/ \0/.-O> \6> < 1435078085 891617 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                             | < 1435078085 982979 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            /| < 1435078093 375763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '<_-\(oO06@)/-_> .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.80 < 1435078094 48416 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o_ (0) <@>.<0_ -@).<o- \O).-6/ _0- \0) -o_ _O).\6/.(6) \6> <6- _@).\O_ <@).-o/. < 1435078097 394582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '<_-\(oO06@)/-_> .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.60 < 1435078098 44158 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _O> _0- (O> _o_ <@- <0) -O- -O>._O>._o- -O/ (o/ (@_ _6- -O>. < 1435078098 200745 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     |                       | < 1435078098 254650 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    /|                      /| < 1435078140 885325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-\\oO06@//-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.60 < 1435078141 690702 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -@/ \O- |O/.\@_.-o| -o/ -0|.|6_._@_ \O| \6- |6/ \6| \@_ _6/ < 1435078141 910953 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                         |   | < 1435078142 31172 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        /<  /´\ < 1435078151 918658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-\\ooooo//-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.60 < 1435078152 698860 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -o| \o- _o_ \o_ _o- \o- -o- \o/ |o_ -o/ \o/ _o/ -o/ |o/ -o/. < 1435078166 971651 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435078173 338972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-\\ooooo//-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.60 < 1435078174 135403 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o| \o/ \o_.-o|.\o/ -o/ _o/.\o| _o/.-o| -o- -o- \o/ \o_ \o| < 1435078176 442964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-\\ooooo//-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.50 < 1435078177 151918 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -o| \o| |o/ |o_ \o/ _o| _o_ _o_ -o_.-o| -o- \o/ \o < 1435078177 294225 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |  |   |   | < 1435078177 379632 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         >\  >\  |\  |\ /^\ /'\ /<  /'\ o/`¯º |\/|  /< < 1435078182 828980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1435078182 937180 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1435078187 759275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-\\ooooo//-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435078188 352923 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |o/.\o| _o/.|o/ _o/ |o_ _o/ _o_ \o-.-o- \o- |o/.\o- < 1435078188 799749 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1435078188 857559 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        /|   >\  >\  |\ /'\ /<   |\ /^\ /|  /^\ /|  /`\  |\ < 1435078190 889157 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice !!!!!!!!1 < 1435078195 555469 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-(\ooooo/)-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435078196 237704 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o) (o/ -o| _o| (o_ (o) (o- (o_ -o) (o).|o- \o/ _o- < 1435078196 401698 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 |   |                           |   |   | < 1435078196 500901 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 |\  >\                         /<   >\ /^\ < 1435078196 779675 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :good work < 1435078202 831013 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-<\ooooo/>-_| .'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435078203 501054 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o| _o| |o| \o- <o> -o/ <o> _o_ -o| |o|.|o| <o| |o_ < 1435078203 659517 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1435078203 726151 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         >\ /|   >\  >\ /|  /<   >\ /|  /`\ /|  /<   >\ /´\ < 1435078208 910394 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1435078227 76618 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what agreat script < 1435078240 482471 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :.'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 what is this < 1435078252 616613 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know i. counts up < 1435078276 23459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :abeTn < 1435078290 589787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-(\ooooo/)-_|ooooo'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435078291 274074 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o/o(o|o|o)o\o-o_o-o-o|o\o)o_o|o_o/o|o_o(o/o(o|o-o- < 1435078305 858550 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-(\ooooo/)-_|o '{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435078306 491340 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o/ (o| (o) -o-o_o| _o/o|o| (o-o\o/o\o) _o| (o/ |o/ < 1435078306 607325 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |                                       |       | < 1435078306 686862 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        /|                                      /|      /'\ < 1435078314 491664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't like too many heads I guess < 1435078314 600769 :abeTn!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1435078330 347678 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's off by one there < 1435078333 652189 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :trange < 1435078338 563948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what off by one? < 1435078339 251488 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o/ < 1435078339 442434 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1435078339 533894 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         /´\ < 1435078357 966766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: it uses the nick lengths < 1435078363 476533 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435078368 541107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"j-bot" is shorter than "myndzi" < 1435078443 66381 :perrier__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435078458 917689 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test: /o\ < 1435078459 287794 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1435078459 366603 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      /'\ < 1435078467 337919 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1435078520 202495 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435078524 490755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435078817 449995 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: cute < 1435078844 305184 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the . though? < 1435079102 554248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I wanted to try to push the limits and find out what myndzi eats < 1435079135 644102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: '|_-(\ooooo/)-_|g&/-M'{~20|(5*i.n)+?5$~n=.51 < 1435079136 340574 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o_M|o|-(o|/\o|&_o/&_o/g(o_&\o)/-o|/-o--|o)--o)&\o_ < 1435079136 507839 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     |   |               |   |           | < 1435079136 589202 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    /´\ /`\              >\ /<           |\ < 1435079423 743633 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435079442 273220 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*: Hello < 1435079523 999922 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1435079600 951562 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435079626 788324 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435079803 194845 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's everybody < 1435079812 312085 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was away installing MinGW on my new laptop < 1435079852 383528 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435079935 349056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1435079953 296959 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember this setup GUI when I installed it on windows 7... < 1435079957 810275 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What to do... < 1435079965 38583 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to tell it to install everything < 1435079972 280519 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was really just going for the GCC < 1435079977 594954 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435079996 416406 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435080011 536402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :question. what cases are there when you can use only uppercase hex digits (ABCDEF), not lower case ones (abcdef)? I know about (1) TeX, (2) dc and bc. Are there others? < 1435080028 401129 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435080052 252032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean cases when something accepts only uppercase hex digits as input; not when it only outputs uppercase as output. < 1435080054 61783 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about one where only the lowercase works (J) < 1435080072 163356 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well in some languages you can only use Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Q, and a Smiley face < 1435080077 623073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hmm true < 1435080092 153588 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those have neither been implemented nor documented < 1435080098 398302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: what? is this some esolang? < 1435080099 588125 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a bit annoying since b is used as a separator between the base and the digits < 1435080106 93699 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a philisophical thing < 1435080115 497975 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite languages exist in infininte combinations < 1435080123 31184 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only some have been implemented and documented < 1435080126 308870 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to prefer uppercase if I can choose < 1435080183 650815 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it? < 1435080205 652669 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435081831 503819 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm baaaack < 1435081891 981789 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uppercase hex is better < 1435082437 487080 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435082482 190149 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still prefer GQ:) hex < 1435082516 188539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: did you come riding on 0XBAAAACK or on the BAAAACK of a horse? < 1435082519 360259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435082532 695367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah dunno < 1435083487 675741 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435083676 613175 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435083680 840984 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435084791 826224 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kybvcdeoaieavdto QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435084906 238955 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jfulkstdxbiqchfw JOIN :#esoteric < 1435084910 122946 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jfulkstdxbiqchfw QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435084991 648301 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lixutoclepemwqex QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435085026 389684 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bdotwrpjcpiphpiw JOIN :#esoteric < 1435085070 359956 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1435085170 856123 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bdotwrpjcpiphpiw QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435086559 872354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43267&oldid=42745 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+165) 10/* PFIL */ new section < 1435086588 988920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43268&oldid=43267 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+94) 10/* PFIL */ < 1435086771 294923 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1435086787 289384 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435087500 393140 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435087527 449518 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:56:00: <shachaf> HackEgo could have been a particular amiga book on a binary website for human syntax. < 1435088116 184061 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qzkljnyrjaeoiiel JOIN :#esoteric < 1435088217 518596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not polite to write those things as if they're actual quotes. < 1435088266 185334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: when the neural net starts producing messages from you quoting the neural net, we'll see whether it's alternative universe counterpart makes quotes that look more real hth < 1435088278 12759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1435088355 291497 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435088811 857905 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435088914 841239 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435088967 317045 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if it starts producing messages and then tswett quoting them < 1435089020 910071 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worse, what if it starts producing real messages before < 1435089025 714912 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are posted < 1435089144 618527 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the mov is turing complete thing? < 1435089155 22961 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it < 1435089158 496738 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cool is thaht? < 1435089178 548721 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :branchless coding < 1435089264 164006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov + a jump < 1435089331 898391 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435089538 212653 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435089584 275692 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, can you move to the PC? < 1435090321 652456 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qzkljnyrjaeoiiel QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435090425 915176 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lwvotnxutqkwniss JOIN :#esoteric < 1435090434 687336 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435090599 667091 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1435090602 369127 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed rd < 1435090760 128467 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435090773 142295 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435092671 837406 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435092858 440235 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rd < 1435092861 335451 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1435092864 880661 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't mean to send that < 1435092944 338500 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1435092949 848179 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435093023 107170 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my apologies. < 1435093029 918923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435093044 198622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unréliable/unréliable is French for «peu fiable». < 1435093052 645184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435093053 819180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor/Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1435093378 890403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay archive binge of the whiteboard finished < 1435093398 741379 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435093400 523187 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435093431 74167 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435093440 162447 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435093553 484879 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435093615 69379 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435093657 913871 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow < 1435093734 379389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435093735 526052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd/ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1435093936 652321 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435094015 792727 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435094720 533712 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435095250 533482 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435095279 930535 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435095461 395969 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1435095483 738351 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1435095510 86172 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435095510 423317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435095515 75736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coulor/Coulor is the correct spelling. < 1435095515 182152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbrules/qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435095533 354160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: clever < 1435095657 831257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Kulør er rett stavemåte. < 1435095664 91316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'kulør': Kulør er rett stavemåte. < 1435095774 989620 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435095803 676855 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435097504 636099 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435097547 174118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1435097548 130739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1435097563 131518 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435097616 85729 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lwvotnxutqkwniss PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435097622 849634 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435097710 440294 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435097736 147273 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435097808 828466 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435097963 918115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get digital cable without all of the menus and OSD and interactive guide and all of that stuff? < 1435097983 224217 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435097990 974467 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :a charity shop < 1435098007 40866 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098018 318993 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant cables as in wires, not TV sorry < 1435098081 298422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I guess it's like how you can get DRMed music or games without having to install a DRM manager that cripples your windows computer and breaks down when you lose internet connection or replace any part of your hardware < 1435098094 387669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: get an illegal pirated decoder box < 1435098152 737917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not trying to avoid paying for channels < 1435098193 430734 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098236 666233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then pay for them and then connect such a decoder maybe < 1435098253 966073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how to get such decoder though < 1435098259 52824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or how to program it < 1435098386 88828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be able to access it using an analog tuner < 1435098422 173795 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lwvotnxutqkwniss QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435098433 997036 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you control it then, if you access it from an analog tuner? < 1435098465 781709 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-koeheekdttrfdntu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098493 66834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would digitally tune to various channels and broadcast them on a analog RF signal on different channels, and then just stay out of the way < 1435098496 288158 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-koeheekdttrfdntu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435098515 829903 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435098548 585232 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435098556 580281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way would be to use a MIDI input port to receive channel changing commands (without OSD), if the VCR or TV or whatever support it then it would use that to change channels. < 1435098567 267073 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435098569 254164 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435098581 526135 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098596 20740 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098606 466399 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435098615 872046 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vtgsjzflinjomyea JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098630 874243 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1435098631 337599 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 232200Z 27019G31KT 30SM FEW030 BKN070 BKN090 24/15 A2960 RMK CU1AC4AC1 SLP022 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1435098663 276011 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098671 257252 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435098681 437045 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome YokeOfIdea < 1435098685 958095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09YokeOfIdea: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08<http://esolangs.org/>. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1435098702 616539 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098782 341606 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435098785 853144 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435098815 371763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way could be to make a test signal on all channels other than the one tuned, and the video out passes through the cable box and uses that to know which channel to tune to. < 1435098832 16407 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435098881 547543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works if you are using a VCR to tune the signal, but not with a TV set (unless perhaps it is a TV set that supports external speakers) < 1435098949 587625 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435099037 435237 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion1! < 1435099105 869824 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the only people left with VCRs are hipsters nowadays. < 1435099132 445069 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435099161 840218 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435099236 404753 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hezzo38. I bought a foldable shogi board. I made a grave mistake by teaching our team's intern the game the other week, and now she's addicted. < 1435099308 497390 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435099513 864569 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435099527 781273 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plnnkikwhtsyamih JOIN :#esoteric < 1435099590 203335 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435099632 38475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Bonnuily < 1435099728 519955 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435099896 749133 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435099949 259985 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435099957 883461 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435100207 123882 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435100261 687867 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435100486 512263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you know how to make such a device like how I mentioned? < 1435100570 11335 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435100710 535374 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435100800 831207 :hilquias`!~user@187.112.14.137 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435100810 218795 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435100947 117909 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435101003 405885 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435101209 195632 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps. let me read the logs. < 1435101257 554992 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435101277 231314 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, my parents got a new android tablet. it's all shiny and stuff, but they can't browse anything https. do you have any idea why? < 1435101301 960078 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(already tried the automatically-set-date-and-time solution, but it does nothing.) < 1435101305 613226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of error message? < 1435101312 912481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any other protocols work? < 1435101334 454688 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about timeouts, pages loading partially if they're lucky... < 1435101338 722600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular http works. < 1435101364 495412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean other protocol such as FTP, gopher, SMTP, etc < 1435101377 443019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course you need a client supporting them) < 1435101394 362478 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. “maybe” < 1435101409 681580 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the aforementioned tablet is quite far from my hands atm hth < 1435101444 857479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a Wikipedia proxy that doesn't require HTTPS. < 1435101450 948914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be one way < 1435101477 100415 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice comeback. < 1435101480 146998 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38++ < 1435101492 483143 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435101535 632624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Wikimedia Foundation refuses to do this; I have asked them.) < 1435101587 617865 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always be thorough with that kind of matter at hand. < 1435101871 718968 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435102258 710764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am not the only one to have asked.) < 1435102318 445781 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the thirty-eighth zzo. I wouldn't be surprised if all 37 previous ones also asked. < 1435102483 243414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435102483 702082 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you just turn zzo38 into zzo39 < 1435102486 487963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness/madness lies thataway. < 1435102502 948203 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma zzo38 < 1435102503 282001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has a karma of 12 < 1435102511 52184 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo50. < 1435102528 865887 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firellofly. the real zzo38 is zzo38 hth < 1435102538 611282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. < 1435102700 377721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1435102716 257070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hily < 1435102817 855183 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program that can print anything you pipe into it except its own source < 1435102919 744692 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plugs his ears with mapole ear plugs. “LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA” < 1435103009 548884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435103014 484114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus/Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1435103017 72820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: how's snakebird going < 1435103034 306460 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435103035 315834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhubarb/Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb, rhubarb: rhubarb rhubarb? Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb rhubarb. < 1435103083 683479 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haven't played it since last time; I was mostly away from my computer over the weekend celebrating midsummer < 1435103096 775845 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435103100 268170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish/Swedish is the language of fine cuisine. < 1435103121 572345 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/* | wc -l < 1435103122 751004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :549 < 1435103141 36036 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually.. < 1435103147 772455 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1435103151 617275 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom | wc -l < 1435103152 770601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1435103156 839866 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1435103162 363587 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: uhm. wouldn't that be, like, you know... < 1435103163 285385 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/ | wc -l < 1435103164 186565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1435103189 482765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ls wisdom | wc -l # hth < 1435103190 150976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :542 < 1435103195 531689 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1435103202 403283 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that < 1435103224 783073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the other seven? < 1435103231 360254 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :auntie quine < 1435103245 256593 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: presumably directories containing files < 1435103256 256377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes < 1435103291 621541 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or they're Eldritch Forbidden Wisom Entries of Untractable Lore. < 1435104228 423439 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435104493 749326 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104494 660628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@/@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour < 1435104498 791969 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104499 892433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code/5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1435104510 22202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I don't have that one. < 1435104516 267965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104517 159721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot/Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1435104543 137098 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104543 458787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott you really should join the chännel back hth < 1435104543 512734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435104544 161604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode/Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people. < 1435104568 640068 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1435104571 406665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which government? < 1435104578 150892 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104579 303295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland/Połąńd is a European country. Its population consists of two main ethnicities, the North Połes and the South Połes. < 1435104584 112216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? Perhaps the US government < 1435104618 282829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the us < 1435104619 182940 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US is the country opposed to the THEM. < 1435104625 208423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the them < 1435104625 885584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information on the THEM has been removed for national security reasons. < 1435104627 553733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Canada < 1435104628 378301 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1435104639 674109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104640 564292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rincewind/Rincewind is a wizzard. He likes potatoes. < 1435104701 312016 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435104702 201727 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :browser/A browser is a Gopher client for convenient access to Gopher services and documents. < 1435105315 80680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435105317 560898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pie/I like pie \ I like pie < 1435105322 626216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/browser < 1435105323 873853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1435105326 514173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435105327 736741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1435105330 832923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435105331 619487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitespace/see https://www.bing.com/search?q=whitespace < 1435105346 864635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, they fixed it. < 1435105349 929989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/whitespace < 1435105351 572430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435105462 343457 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bowser < 1435105463 109262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowser? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435105532 416357 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn bowser/A Bowser is a Koopa client for convenient administration of mooks in Mushroom Kingdom. < 1435105534 601412 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «bowser» < 1435105642 794766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something wrong with `learn? < 1435105687 670005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably mess it up < 1435105706 757655 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I tried to use it, I think the wisdom entry name got included in the file content < 1435105726 865399 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a few years ago though < 1435105729 292177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1435105735 968836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But here you put the wisdom entry name in the file content. < 1435105762 443425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The `learn command is OK if you want the filename only one word and is also the first word of the data < 1435105793 880958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1435105794 452277 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "Learned '$topic': $1" < 1435105803 145184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also recognizes if the first word of the data is a or an or the < 1435105818 361991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I didn't know that < 1435105870 824446 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435105910 540370 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much magic could be harmful < 1435105937 272326 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than remember and keep up-to-date with `learn's magic, it's easier to just `le/rn < 1435105953 271615 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might just be me < 1435105989 212781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just you. < 1435106001 250488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I feel obligated to mention it thanks to oerjan. < 1435106011 917643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He complained about how le/rn encourages people not to put the title in the content. < 1435106052 202271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the title might not be needed in content though < 1435106247 704035 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just got a callback from my dad. setting the tablet to +0800 makes SSL work. who would've known. < 1435106250 399270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435106254 76093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlop/botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release. < 1435106260 388674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435106261 267106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus19/itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly < 1435106283 453560 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/botlops < 1435106285 628990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Bike FreeFull boily < 1435106350 268344 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435106391 96004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435106395 824345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞/̼͚͇̮͕̘̳̞̤̜̯̪̘̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓ < 1435106402 324646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435106403 327961 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1435106404 84896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ĥäŝkéll/ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again. < 1435106425 682463 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaurgh... < 1435106451 245655 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION handwaves all those additions to tomorrow. «m'a faire ça demain, ça d'l'air que c'est congé.» < 1435106472 4984 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/ĥäŝkéll < 1435106473 382758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman < 1435106479 282644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles mroman_ < 1435106987 725019 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/*ÌÌ* < 1435106989 557039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435106999 453204 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ÌÌ* < 1435107000 664627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*ÌÌ*: No such file or directory < 1435107108 460826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435107109 426580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness/madness lies thataway. < 1435107111 673570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435107113 118072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton/A funciton is the number of burgers to eat when I get one. < 1435107115 251745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435107116 255265 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ci/The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1435107139 653132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? estin < 1435107140 351118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :estin? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435107255 979193 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here I was naïvely believing that Taneb invented himself. < 1435107916 574371 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435108668 414725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435108752 787885 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435108892 222522 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:9879:4bde:24fa:c0c7 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435110230 242010 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435111075 607879 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there was no Taneb, it would be necessary for Taneb to invent him < 1435111318 194130 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, Taneb is a quine. < 1435111375 119486 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this II stuff? < 1435111385 773271 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's HexChat sucking and it's not really II < 1435111404 310067 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the number after I and after II < 1435111412 483293 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the number after I and before III < 1435111421 525282 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HexChat is a 💩 < 1435111424 835812 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok that works < 1435111433 86749 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "works" but shows up as a box < 1435111469 172648 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is hexchat? < 1435111495 246305 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh like irssi but different? < 1435111545 839793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons his tinfoil hat and points at a possible hexham conspiracy. < 1435111667 957136 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's forked XChat < 1435111693 157635 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it's a GUI program? bleh < 1435111699 910266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Taneb was presumably invented by nitia. < 1435111713 520432 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have we found out who nitia is yet? < 1435111718 498093 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer ncurses programs for basically all purposes < 1435111722 905307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes hth < 1435111729 414435 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh twh < 1435111730 715334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/creator/inventor/' wisdom/nitia < 1435111732 472762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435111739 171625 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1435111740 19667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1435111748 153531 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????? < 1435111753 482437 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh. < 1435111825 37448 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had fiora and douglass who were feminine chännelers. is nitia one of them? < 1435111863 699673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry if I'm missing other female members here. by default I'm assuming people to be fungotkin.) < 1435111902 823339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google says "Nitia" is a feminine name. < 1435111912 971645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But enumerating folks like that doesn't seem very nice. < 1435111914 517634 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly 80% of my comp sci graduation's attendees were men hth. < 1435111960 749346 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, the comp sci department has its own graduation...) < 1435111993 853815 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/attendees/'graduands'/ < 1435112033 390577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/you < 1435112035 132882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1435112037 225989 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. btw, fizzie, FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1435112066 342660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you want to figure out where nitia came from < 1435112076 211609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e got mad that i gave it away < 1435112081 103174 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: roughly 100% of comp eng graduatees were men when I graduated hth < 1435112087 933294 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's safe to say that without any other evidence any given group of computer people are mostly men < 1435112090 939139 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is nitia you? < 1435112102 813476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: more like rude to say hth < 1435112133 975439 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435112154 286517 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol yeah some people get mad when you point it out. my dad advised me to study in the medicine section of the library to meet girls < 1435112202 26527 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was like, 'library? what library') < 1435112202 169691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not exactly what i mean < 1435112217 225048 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can I mapole oren_ with great force? >:) < 1435112247 970786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would suggest not < 1435112251 195894 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. < 1435112284 94930 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435112336 316357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, we're (or at least I) not progressing upon the nitiaproblem. < 1435112353 816481 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe scan the logs? < 1435112372 88866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can work it out < 1435112376 57235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the information is in the hg logs < 1435112380 424748 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example figure out what date nitia modified that file and check the logs for that day < 1435112523 770810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hg logs contain the command that modified the file. < 1435112555 827697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 nitia < 1435112556 601673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avgvn < 1435112625 97387 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :angry video game video nerd? < 1435112674 560682 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435112770 546211 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2015-06-22#191506shachaf < 1435112787 372863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating < 1435112821 828845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435112847 220436 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't cheating. Ctrl-Fed through the logs. < 1435112849 298928 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there is also izabera who is a girl < 1435112852 687924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits useless_file.txt < 1435112859 777243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie estin < 1435112865 363619 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless file? < 1435112876 315629 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat useless_file.txt < 1435112876 478109 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: do you corroborate oren_'s affirmation? < 1435112876 929324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: useless_file.txt: No such file or directory < 1435112892 179075 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo useless > useless_file.txt < 1435112892 744522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless > useless_file.txt < 1435112894 271686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1435112937 553896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say just let people be twh < 1435112956 769771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write it to a file put `` or ``` at front (with a space afterward), to make shell interpretation < 1435112973 67211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't do that then it just treats it as a command with one parameter not interpreted by shell. < 1435112979 345101 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed. < 1435112992 692507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that includes you < 1435113004 546827 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, indeed. < 1435113015 954453 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo useless > useless_file.txt < 1435113016 511081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1435113028 86353 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between `` and ``` < 1435113035 224638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you mkaing useless_file.txt? < 1435113077 234249 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1435113089 129787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That file is kind of special. < 1435113089 543883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you need a space after `` or ``` < 1435113095 286588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We might never have another file created by estin. < 1435113099 498941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: The difference between them is the locale setting < 1435113104 263777 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 無駄無駄無駄ムダ〜! > emoticons/useless < 1435113106 164064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435113133 517174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put `` then it uses the default locale, but if you put ``` then it uses the C locale instead. < 1435113142 604240 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that isn't an emoticon, just a reference to a manga < 1435113164 769042 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a tractor. < 1435113378 484074 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo オラオラオラ (三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 > emoticons/useless < 1435113379 251827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo オラオラオラ (三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 > emoticons/useless' < 1435113401 272568 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo オラオラオラ(三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 > emoticons/useless < 1435113404 976501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435113482 892355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want to write plain data to a file one way to do is to use the mk command instead < 1435113633 642679 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find one that includes some depiction of a steamroller and WRYYY < 1435113645 290372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's OK. < 1435113652 535728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :emoticons/ is not a good directory anyway. < 1435113659 980165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC would be better with fewer of them. < 1435113688 972082 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaan < 1435113689 628411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(°Д°) < 1435113910 807297 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ARCHITEXTURED CHICKEN < 1435114052 91367 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :㊤㊤㊦㊦㊧㊨㊧㊨ウルトラパンチ(*゚∇゚)-O))~~~~~~Ю)゚ロ゚)/ < 1435114331 918657 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\[^_^]/ < 1435115679 53261 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435115710 71642 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435115886 187756 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not the entire konami code. < 1435116346 20349 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :㊤㊤㊦㊦㊧㊨㊧㊨Ⓑ Ⓐ [START] < 1435116395 62630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435116397 486222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sport/An < 1435116462 161784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that get messed up twh < 1435116473 361058 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? konami < 1435116473 775971 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :konami? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435116475 415868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/sport < 1435116477 11429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435116504 188877 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn konami/The konami code is ㊤㊤㊦㊦㊧㊨㊧㊨Ⓑ Ⓐ [START] < 1435116507 339592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «konami» < 1435116827 155460 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435117409 368090 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435119103 511272 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does "font-size: 50px" not make the maximum height of each letter exactly 50 pixels? < 1435119132 954992 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is 50px measuring? < 1435119215 692047 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1435119310 257317 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn european font makers < 1435119431 59636 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the height from the top of the box the glyph is in to the bottom. That is, it is making the height of each letter 50 pixels but this includes invisible portions of the letter. < 1435119493 562732 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't appear that that's the case. < 1435119502 936882 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I am wrong. < 1435119530 954353 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It includes a weird space which no letter fills < 1435119580 873930 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I guess the font was designed with an invisible part at the top of every letter < 1435119610 125405 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're right in a way < 1435119635 948641 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just measuring 50 useless pixels. :P < 1435119659 779152 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 40 useful ones and 10 useless ones < 1435119782 838611 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the japanese fonts nver have this problem. (they have other problems...) < 1435119814 664079 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as often being ugly as fk < 1435119828 309975 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on their latin letters) < 1435119862 513184 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese fonts IIRC are likely to be making Latin letters fit in half an ideograph space. < 1435119878 311808 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too. < 1435119896 663410 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never mind that this is only typographically correct when you're handwriting on grid paper) < 1435119922 935216 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well japanese people do handwrite on graph paper < 1435119942 678834 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435119950 650129 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's not how Japanese typesetting works. < 1435119970 365397 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how Japanese hand-written essay writing works. :) < 1435119987 789258 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern japanese fonts have a 'P' version which is proprtional < 1435120000 964553 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435120026 203072 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that one matches proper Japanese typesetting rules. < 1435120074 499568 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll often see the non-p version used for making grids, though (because japanese people hate CSS jsut as much as anyone) < 1435120077 858063 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(essentially when you have a run of Latin letters, you're supposed to put that in proportional font, and then when you return to Japanese writing you begin at the next 1 half-space) < 1435120124 143237 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, yeah. < 1435120293 682406 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435120349 624180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hagb4rd 5* 10New user account < 1435120378 170353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1435120506 799385 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uh-oh? < 1435120724 238623 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:21aa:dd9:5560:4709 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435120878 197824 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I wonder how much trouble it would be to just write JS that detect the window size and positions eveything absolute < 1435120986 656778 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I can write a sane version of CSS on top of JS < 1435121266 765653 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435121667 425815 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter how long I use CSS, it always feels like I'm looking up a magic incantation from stackoverflow every time < 1435121703 289503 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of which no longer work < 1435121783 514088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, don't use CSS, many times is not needed < 1435122322 152333 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for this purpose I could use oldskool tables partying like it's 2002. (I needed to vertically align some stuff). I ended up using fixed-size divs to "bump"the content into the right places, which is actually a similar process < 1435122656 376418 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Draw your page in a canvas < 1435122663 684306 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435122690 465189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need to vertically align some stuff? < 1435123018 755703 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it looks the way the client wants? < 1435123080 506140 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want the texts to be vertically aligned at their tops, despite having different meanings for "50px" < 1435123141 17124 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have some words in different fonts. veritcal align doesn't work because the visible tops of the letters aren't where the "logical" tops of the letters are < 1435123172 556319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need the words to be in different fonts? < 1435123197 375371 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They wanted it that way < 1435123426 550808 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well at least it looks correct even if it will look like an abomination to CSS sticklers < 1435123466 945911 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: well the accepted approach previously was often to make the whole web page as one SWF < 1435123491 400749 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So very similar to the approach you propose < 1435123589 786432 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however now that fucking apple is trying to take away our god-given right to application/x-shockwave-flash < 1435123603 249596 :password2!~password@197.77.40.236 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435123634 875381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also is no good if the user doesn't want Flash < 1435123652 832252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use text; that work better anywhere. < 1435123689 732555 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, so long as the user has a fixed width font or you supply the font < 1435123701 48885 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could work < 1435123728 310221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The user probably will have a fixed width font, although you can supply one anyways, and also specify fixed width so that it will still work if the user does not download the font. < 1435127658 95805 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:21aa:dd9:5560:4709 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435127856 976478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, it _should_, if it weren't for the stupid bug in firefox releases these days where if you ask firefox to ignore the specific font face names specified by the webpage (css or html), then it also ignores requests for monospace, serif, sans-serif. < 1435127897 511261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they used to do this properly, honoring requests among those three predefined names but not specific font face names, but they messed it up a year ago or something. < 1435128278 756870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you still use <TT> or whatever? Furthermore, can they to fix the bug? And, can you tell it to not download any fonts but still honor requests for font names if you have them installed? < 1435128328 352047 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435129048 549457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, because the TT is made monospace by a built-in CSS rule too, and that's ignored as well < 1435129063 770390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, I think you can tell it not to download fonts, but that's not what I want < 1435129073 98725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want webpages to use only the two or three fonts I specify < 1435129123 956189 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have fonts installed on my system, but I don't want to give control to webpages to specify fonts, because that's not their business. I'm reading text in fonts I choose. < 1435129148 459492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's possible they fixed it in some later version, I haven't checked lately. < 1435129279 883976 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless this firefox bug, the right thing to do for a webpage is to specify monospaced of course. < 1435129503 800519 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435129717 880865 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435130022 898831 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm as dumb as the PHB, I don't "get" the latest Dilbert < 1435131369 250515 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This website has office hours: https://secure.ssa.gov/ICON/main.jsp < 1435131733 618981 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vtgsjzflinjomyea QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435131789 846218 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435131803 123758 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bafxqyvdizwagmlu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435131836 545231 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435132610 185830 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am considering implementing the contraint-based system decribed my John Nagle in this post < 1435132617 190563 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.raizlabs.com/graiz/2006/09/25/ten-reasons-why-css-sucks/#c116682639983719888 < 1435132735 16187 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that that could be implemented to run fairly fast on today's modern javascript interpreters < 1435133769 912381 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.101.4819 < 1435133857 731813 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/slightlyoff/cassowary.js < 1435133866 833565 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it's been done < 1435134347 15686 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435134519 469011 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435134661 177099 :ayylmao!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :kline < 1435134734 977791 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435134783 129670 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435135149 187628 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435137089 716263 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435137235 361900 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's multicolumn support in CSS3 btw < 1435137557 589513 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and box-sizing < 1435137718 505617 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh673558%28v=vs.85%29.aspx <- and that < 1435137726 688025 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure if that is supported by other browsers < 1435137819 551297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Web/CSS/CSS3 < 1435137820 233581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1435137827 187302 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of CSS3 are still under development? < 1435140042 843830 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435140551 90361 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1435140551 144265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1435142889 767743 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435143836 47838 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435148605 142759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://constraints.cs.washington.edu/cassowary/ seems to be lacking in the web design department < 1435148783 681855 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435148918 244218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's an incremental simplex algorithm < 1435149033 952152 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1435149387 439949 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel lacks fungot. < 1435149418 187014 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435149833 818989 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435150048 99430 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1435150128 797663 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helllo < 1435150904 290201 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanelllo < 1435151424 684832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435153300 277255 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435154008 409236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1435154120 541218 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435154371 863238 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435154611 206128 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numeric Underload < 1435154613 579082 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435155006 228257 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrelloman_. what's a numeric underload? < 1435155108 434316 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, an Underload derivative in the same style as most brainfuck derivatives < 1435155160 886411 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! < 1435155170 974204 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shun the derivative! < 1435155396 118215 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Some ‎Esowiki201529A language < 1435155443 4860 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1435155455 597427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'boxmodel': boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1435155474 554118 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a Taneboxmodel. < 1435155488 450920 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, vanelllo, Jafellot, Tanelle and chelloppro! < 1435155571 197744 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1435155588 641719 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FirelloFly! < 1435155606 156447 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435155610 316050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinosaur/Dinosaurs are a diverse group of pre-historic chickens with feathers. < 1435155694 978815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: last Sunday I managed to ron on 1S 7S 7S 8S 8S 9S 9S 7M 8M 9M 7P 8P 9P 1S, with 1S as dora :D < 1435155707 115926 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\ntr "aoeuiy" "äöëüïÿ"' >bin/döts && chmod a+x bin/döts && wisdom | döts < 1435155709 670501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrmn/mrmn s ldng rtst n psswrd scrt (SFW). H ls lks blck mdnss. H cn dsgn psswrd hshs tht r wrs thn th dntt fnctän. H nvntd th dntt fnctän. H's ls n rtst n ncnvntänl wrfr. < 1435155724 266881 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we have a UTF-8 problem < 1435155736 427767 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435155745 842172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435155855 203505 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't GNU tr just brkoen? < 1435155967 683699 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1435155989 340590 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nsed -re "y/aoeuiy/äöëüïÿ/"' >bin/döts && chmod a+x bin/döts && wisdom | döts < 1435155992 557458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :böwsër/A Böwsër ïs ä Kööpä clïënt för cönvënïënt ädmïnïsträtïön öf mööks ïn Müshrööm Kïngdöm. < 1435156010 273710 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`locale < 1435156010 949732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ < 1435156062 406527 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nwisdom | döts' >bin/wisdöm && chmod a+x bin/wisdöm < 1435156064 257177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435156079 54163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nsed -re "y/aehiotuwxy/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿ/"' >bin/döts && chmod a+x bin/döts && wisdom | döts < 1435156083 557516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zömgmödülës/ZOMGMODULES ïs böẗḧ ä smäll blöndë vëẗërïnärïän änd jüsẗ mödülës övër ẗḧë rïng öf ZOMGs. < 1435156090 213465 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :`- < 1435156091 135565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: -: not found < 1435156137 930339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nsed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEIOUY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËÏÖÜŸ/"' >bin/döts && chmod a+x bin/döts && wisdom | döts < 1435156140 778643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ḧänd/Ä ḧänd ïn ẗḧë büsḧ ïs bëẗẗër ẗḧän ä sẗönëd bïrd. < 1435156168 765571 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman < 1435156170 333635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1435156185 671497 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :black madness? < 1435156198 984975 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman | döts < 1435156199 908715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman | döts? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435156200 440029 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log black madness < 1435156201 760758 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :D < 1435156203 239262 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? mroman | döts < 1435156203 913524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1435156204 18994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 0: command not found < 1435156209 633350 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1435156213 146065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? mroman | döts < 1435156213 963317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrömän ïs ä lëädïng ärẗïsẗ ïn pässẅörd sëcürïẗÿ (SFW). Hë älsö lïkës bläck mädnëss. Hë cän dësïgn pässẅörd ḧäsḧës ẗḧäẗ ärë ẅörsë ẗḧän ẗḧë ïdënẗïẗÿ füncẗïön. Hë ïnvënẗëd ẗḧë ïdënẗïẗÿ füncẗïön. Hë's älsö än ärẗïsẗ ïn üncönvënẗïö < 1435156219 556708 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in the same game as the suucha riichi after the tourney, I got this hand < 1435156246 791899 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arcturus.su/mjw/images/Coppro_678_Sanbaiman.jpg < 1435156254 129269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :riichi haitei tsumo < 1435156265 537884 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apparentely I added the "black madness" stuff < 1435156278 87031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: holy fungot! < 1435156292 333974 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how mahjong works < 1435156301 918039 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wherever that came from. < 1435156321 832021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how many chickens did you sacrifice to the Dark Gods to achieve that... < 1435156416 944354 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: twenty senten hands, in the prime of their youth ;) < 1435156440 641120 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435156611 47266 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435156976 21177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWIGNAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1435157083 411110 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat code < 1435157083 983198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: code: No such file or directory < 1435157088 518293 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/code < 1435157089 86219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1435157095 863031 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? code < 1435157096 643329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1435157131 855034 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078...' > wisdom/code < 1435157133 520056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435157136 694957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This code is better. < 1435157138 689577 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? code < 1435157139 469797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078... < 1435157208 475437 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Sorry, but the terms do not match anything in the table.” < 1435157308 734000 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what are we waiting for? Let's try to decode this crap. < 1435157349 439332 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the code appears to consist of a first part and a second part. < 1435157360 537820 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first part is "[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],". < 1435157387 616396 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seven two-digit numbers, with a fair amount of repetition. < 1435157423 511814 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second part starts with "5,5,5,3" (again with the repetition), then it does a bunch of two-digit numbers again. Some of the two-digit numbers have a leading 0. < 1435157461 391437 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a 22., and a 10.301350435, then numbers of larger magnitude. < 1435157480 902109 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last two-digit number is "22.", with a decimal point or period after it, suggesting that this is some sort of endpoint or at least some kind of distinguished point. < 1435157489 688097 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't forget the 1985, which could be interpreted as a year.f < 1435157507 295596 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not clear whether or not the "..." at the end indicates that the last number which appears continues further. < 1435157550 498271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think 1985 is a year. it just happens to be a four digit number. I believe the ... is a truncation. < 1435157570 551521 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1435157582 61679 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many numbers are there in the core two digit number part? < 1435157593 87218 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length [53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58] < 1435157594 697265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 47 < 1435157601 71090 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :47, or 48 if you count the 22. < 1435157626 156795 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort [53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58] < 1435157627 824612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,1,6,11,11,11,11,12,13,13,15,15,16,16,16,17,17,18,19,20,20,20,21,22,22... < 1435157672 793777 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full output: [0,1,1,1,6,11,11,11,11,12,13,13,15,15,16,16,16,17,17,18,19,20,20,20,21,22,22,23,25,25,26,27,28,29,30,32,32,43,45,45,47,53,58,61,65,81,91] < 1435157691 970471 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I was wondering if 23 were appearing in the second part. < 1435157696 148995 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So obviously these numbers are heavily biased towards being smaller. < 1435157721 562466 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, all the numbers appearing in the first part also appear in the second part. < 1435157745 391813 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with the exception of 11, they seem to appear the same number of times. < 1435157755 218803 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 appears three times in the first part, but four times in the second part. < 1435157774 949353 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (`elem` [11,12,15,23]) [53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58] < 1435157776 327926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [15,11,15,11,11,12,11,23] < 1435157815 781410 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how is [11,11,11,15,15,23,12] related to [15,11,15,11,11,12,11,23]? < 1435158024 365572 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the extra 11, they are quite the same. they don't do any meaningful melody, they don't form words. they're not made of prime numbers only. < 1435158138 652764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the information is in the second part, without the first part. < 1435158170 808108 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason there's a fourth 11 in there is because it's the only meaningful 11. < 1435158275 529537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I surmise that the real separator is the second “.”. the first “.” doesn't make sense, because of the “.,” string right after the “22”. 1985 is an outlier or something. < 1435158319 43104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another wild guess, “10” is the last two digit number to be considered, and “301350435” is the first of the Gartantuan Series. < 1435158447 878941 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repetitions like that, with bias towards small numbers, make me think of some MTF transform being applied. but my coffee is very strong this morning and I may only be experiencing wild hallucinations. < 1435158459 342034 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435158479 819142 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joys of a National Holiday. it gives you time for a large pot of French press!) < 1435158493 98600 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435158823 76092 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435159021 627878 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435159439 462819 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435159830 965990 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what holiday? < 1435159886 125200 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :St-Jean-Baptiste! < 1435159930 632360 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435160212 643413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435160297 510563 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bafxqyvdizwagmlu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435160365 442194 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wgjpfvojdalluutw JOIN :#esoteric < 1435160727 256664 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that? < 1435160858 796861 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :John the Baptist. < 1435161029 699826 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently today is its nativity, and August 9th is its beheading. < 1435161035 834906 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/9/29/ < 1435161479 377315 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nativity meaning birth? < 1435161490 400672 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1435161498 624758 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435161523 792066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why was he behaded? < 1435161722 23304 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't read that far in the wikipédia article. < 1435161834 238977 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to tradition, it's because Salome asked for his head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beheading_of_St._John_the_Baptist#Traditional_accounts < 1435161999 90697 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1435162161 942643 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435162326 713902 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435162459 743871 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435162802 423470 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435162927 793186 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435163945 212109 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435163968 243085 :password2!~password@197.77.71.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435164298 162587 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1435164998 635177 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435166334 500183 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435166379 665210 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435166411 330818 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435166695 666097 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435166781 610459 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435167212 158859 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435167558 679511 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435167598 669542 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435169040 109958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435169589 881768 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plnnkikwhtsyamih QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435170188 504046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily. i don't think using lambdabot to contact elliott is likely to work. < 1435170235 415957 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1435170235 469667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1435170252 979253 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wgjpfvojdalluutw PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hi guysh < 1435170288 955064 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fowl < 1435170413 131985 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the last time elliott was seen, anyways? < 1435170454 979425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1435170498 166314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-05-13-raw.txt:< 1431497089 99107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435170518 597645 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. < 1435170687 275715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435170689 604508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coonspirator/A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators. < 1435170884 447250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1435170887 43364 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435170888 338239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom/It is now. < 1435171296 419310 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boredom < 1435171299 118823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435171301 428990 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdöm < 1435171302 599554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :för fürẗḧër dëẗäïls för füẗḧër dëẗäïls./Sëë `? för fürẗḧër dëẗäïls för füẗḧër dëẗäïls. < 1435171309 770614 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1435171317 159760 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up < 1435171352 63920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435171353 203841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :macabre/The Macabres have been the hereditary rulers of Lochaber for 3 centuries. < 1435171369 904339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coönspirator < 1435171370 731181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coönspirator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435171376 11178 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435171377 348583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanea/Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1435171402 878936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435171403 845705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty/forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1435171538 720780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION builds a thirt and starts throwing snowballs at boily  < 1435171559 814178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know, how to make a RF modulator that can broadcast on many channels? < 1435171648 403772 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A thirt is for throwsing snowballs at forty things. < 1435171650 951985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'thirt': A thirt is for throwsing snowballs at forty things. < 1435171670 286428 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just you wait for next winter, you vile fiend! flblblblblblbl! < 1435171703 147172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay `learn is not dead! < 1435171709 824898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ice < 1435171710 622789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435171715 113897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't forty just mean "fort-like"? < 1435171717 791628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ice would be forty snow? < 1435171731 606095 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, packed snow is forty hth < 1435171733 113945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to that definition it's an adverb. < 1435171753 425711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ice is more packed than packed snow < 1435171814 128368 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice is slippery, and already caused injuries on my person. < 1435171834 155611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A boredom is like a kingdom, except ruled by a bore. They don't tend to last very long before people revolt. < 1435171835 802685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'boredom': A boredom is like a kingdom, except ruled by a bore. They don't tend to last very long before people revolt. < 1435171851 698929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/boredom < 1435171856 332216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435171860 530898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have rules hth < 1435171869 126352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that rule hth < 1435171892 272047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally the rule for quotes is two spaces hth) < 1435171899 790068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :two spaces for separating quotes < 1435171903 40033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sentences aren't quotes < 1435171946 166365 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, is it evenv possible? < 1435172094 665511 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wgjpfvojdalluutw QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435172106 485790 :password2!~password@197.77.71.36 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435172220 831721 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lrpspcvzdjfamsxq JOIN :#esoteric < 1435172247 315415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh google redesigned their app menu so translate fits on the first page < 1435172259 892369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(front page app menu) < 1435172261 441912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can thank pikhq for that < 1435172268 444090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435172278 198987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that he had anything to do with it < 1435172281 450089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can still thank him < 1435172285 135669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1435172286 175536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks pikhq < 1435172286 939410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, pikhq. Thikhq. < 1435172435 189360 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. forty snow: http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1987/12/30 < 1435172442 192284 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thikh. thh. eeeekhqhqhqhqh. thikhq. it's fun to say :P < 1435172478 210760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to make that if the channel is changed on the VCR (either manually or using the schedule function) that you will receive the correct signal. They are removing that service by the end of August so I have to implement my own instead < 1435172479 742525 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I agree. < 1435172480 608985 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these strips are surprisingly hard to find if all you know is that there's an ice fort and "where's that kid!")... < 1435172486 743798 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not done anything for Google yet! < 1435172521 118528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :where "ice fort" is a reinforced snow fort. < 1435172670 777359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then why was oerjan thanking you for it < 1435172684 577036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> how did that get messed up twh <-- oren_ got confused about spacing with ` so did `` le/rn sport/An ... < 1435172702 811513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahtdh < 1435172722 340544 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435172726 716124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think it would be a good idea if le/rn would also print the full wisdom on success. < 1435172738 346070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it. < 1435172744 268838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're free to implement it. < 1435172746 642005 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn?? < 1435172766 175574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, hppavilion1 discovers le/rn < 1435172773 349936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it can echo it in the same format as its input. < 1435172773 765900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're basically doomed at this rate < 1435172777 403354 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does le/rn do? < 1435172785 513387 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn < 1435172786 347186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435172786 590418 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion1. le/rn is your friend. < 1435172795 169925 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that joke < 1435172804 86116 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship le/rn < 1435172814 444849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: adds wisdom/ entries in relatively free format < 1435172817 306471 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is le/rn `leearn? < 1435172819 4785 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435172829 748673 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*`learn < 1435172833 239754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, `learn requires it to fit a format < 1435172857 85967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn has another name which everyone has forgotten by now < 1435172868 456741 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :any esolang stuff < 1435172883 702115 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1435172884 940015 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1435172891 434568 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well walruses are invading < 1435172972 599653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's old name got slashed < 1435172974 859094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1435172992 385651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Walruses are invading. < 1435172994 542780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'walruse': Walruses are invading. < 1435172997 48373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435173002 92945 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a good esolang idea? < 1435173013 776141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/walruse < 1435173015 609866 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435173059 226614 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that esoteric enough? < 1435173062 291719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleverly refrains from using broken `revert. < 1435173072 611645 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: you know these 3d pictures you see after crossing your eyes? < 1435173111 947710 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lrpspcvzdjfamsxq QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435173121 879009 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435173122 206264 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl QUIT :Changing host < 1435173122 260057 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1435173122 260102 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1435173122 260119 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435173124 861364 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hnkonaxobcccmvym JOIN :#esoteric < 1435173144 681764 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435173147 753731 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do them with ASCII too < 1435173227 493781 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program would be something like a wall of malbolge-y text, where partial superposition of characters form instructions. < 1435173265 3153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonus point if it does something interesting when run as a malbolge program < 1435173300 212335 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha so you have to see it in 3d to program < 1435173323 327994 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435173335 317732 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435173346 271882 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good idea for an esolang is an esoteric markup language < 1435173354 281094 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make the accompanying stylesheet language < 1435173360 631432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> uh oh <-- uh oh < 1435173361 287145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eastlink says they will stop analog service, but I want analog service therefore maybe I have to make my own way, and I have to learn how < 1435173371 594379 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shoudn't make your own < 1435173387 755146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you uh ohing at < 1435173423 218636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the same thing as you did hth < 1435173430 860872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok tdh < 1435173434 250086 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric markup language like tex maybe < 1435173448 629206 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the term for dedigitizing a signal back to analog? gitizing? < 1435173459 678302 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: plain TeX is already esoteric enough as it is hth < 1435173481 434999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Plain TeX < 1435173492 577476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very good < 1435173551 798812 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a Befunge-like Esolang? < 1435173561 707358 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Esomulang < 1435173617 285661 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone go make that < 1435173621 617403 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go ride a horse < 1435173624 226409 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1435173660 846038 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a 2d lang like snusp < 1435173663 743836 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By make I mean design) < 1435173711 37961 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1435173717 44302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435173718 792162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :megalun/megalun is a chain of a million SCSI devices. FreeFull weighs 482 of them. < 1435173723 876216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435173725 89070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsm/BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1435173731 654486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (an esolang designed to be as much unlike any other esolang as possible) < 1435173756 38317 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a usable esolang? < 1435173763 930313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you sure about that twh < 1435173765 73817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435173766 37415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren/oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. < 1435173773 896605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435173775 658884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork/no < 1435173777 380601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I did not invent BDSM < 1435173778 36373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435173779 1381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup/What soup, Doc? < 1435173789 831568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so shouldn't Tanebventions say that? < 1435173795 108793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise people might assume that you did < 1435173799 556446 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/xlibfunctions < 1435173801 219060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1435173802 146215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. < 1435173809 668044 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be not-tanebinventions < 1435173810 101438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1435173811 67404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was not invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1435173811 376652 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, most esolangs are made to have short command names but long programs. < 1435173833 219637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, have you seen Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download? < 1435173833 322543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append tanebvention He never invents anything involving sex. < 1435173835 672492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tanebvention': Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1435173837 419504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why would you invent such a confusing sentence tdnh < 1435173845 61297 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did say "most". < 1435173850 890836 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's just the kind of guy that I am < 1435173852 660697 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: so a language where anything can be done with one command! < 1435173857 522050 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :?* < 1435173857 846663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1435173858 571771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this clears it up. < 1435173865 471990 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's basically be Text. < 1435173887 401711 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since every program output would ahve to be its own command. < 1435173907 779457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's such a good name < 1435173921 694834 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, thanks, I stole it from a spam article < 1435173922 185129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it ion who proposed it? < 1435173988 654386 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think < 1435174014 490243 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`eval grep -Rl FreeFull | wc -l < 1435174015 218959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eval: not found < 1435174021 314818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exec grep -Rl FreeFull | wc -l < 1435174021 870449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: exec: not found < 1435174028 815419 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget how to do this < 1435174054 42230 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435174056 616305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are horrible nerds < 1435174074 394571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers a HackEgo education camp < 1435174087 426469 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't remember how to HackEgo ): < 1435174093 18470 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1435174093 225500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1435174100 371681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -Rl FreeFull | wc -l < 1435174117 527935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops < 1435174140 722072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/selflink: Too many levels of symbolic links < 1435174155 608784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435174156 541390 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's not strictly my fault < 1435174161 852238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -Rl FreeFull wisdom/ | wc -l < 1435174170 640684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1435174224 536984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -Rl FreeFull wisdom/ < 1435174225 466346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/freefull \ wisdom/perpetuum mobile \ wisdom/perpetual motion machine \ wisdom/megalun \ wisdom/reflection < 1435174226 843471 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1435174227 709441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real \ script.py < 1435174235 767511 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd cat < 1435174236 422081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1435174244 814146 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1435174264 901449 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run script.py < 1435174265 697398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: script.py: command not found < 1435174266 502032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: there's no shell state < 1435174272 180093 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435174277 620477 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just messing around < 1435174277 956485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every command runs separately < 1435174291 91706 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1435174297 675031 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1435174300 541105 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get what you mean < 1435174303 914347 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`script.py < 1435174304 689230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: script.py: not found < 1435174311 231850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top level directory tends to get full of junk < 1435174314 750191 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435174315 824999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! \ Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "script.py", line 2, in <module> \ n \ NameError: name 'n' is not defined < 1435174348 138405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 "like all the others" < 1435174349 621170 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I read the contents of a python file again? < 1435174360 360278 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`read script.py < 1435174360 929995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: read: not found < 1435174364 453187 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1435174364 721503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1435174372 247788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: try `url < 1435174381 102142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the simplest way for a long file < 1435174385 34285 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url script.py < 1435174386 773979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/script.py < 1435174411 517254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's short, `cat will work too < 1435174413 831008 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I go about editing a file? Just out of curiousity < 1435174421 48432 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1435174421 724013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print('Hello World!') \ n < 1435174428 474234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: with linux commands < 1435174436 596491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was that short < 1435174443 144637 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sigh* < 1435174449 686650 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should finish learning Python < 1435174461 98876 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not python < 1435174461 199989 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1435174462 560841 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bash < 1435174511 328497 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -v < 1435174513 23086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1435174516 53227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy. < 1435174522 776617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435174524 320481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens/A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra. < 1435174540 796728 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435174541 896615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​# installing zipimport hook \ import zipimport # builtin \ # installed zipimport hook \ # /usr/lib/python2.7/site.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.7/site.py \ import site # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.7/site.pyc \ # /usr/lib/python2.7/os.pyc matches /usr/lib/python2.7/os.py \ import os # precompiled from /usr/lib/python2.7/os.pyc \ import errn < 1435174548 144921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435174549 170611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti/nortti boy. very nortti boy. < 1435174560 557624 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435174561 844243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph/His Master's Phonetic Hmph < 1435174567 635804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/nortti < 1435174569 169482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull atriq < 1435174581 132236 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch people.py < 1435174583 995613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435174584 782017 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1435174585 635497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elliott \ real < 1435174609 492363 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do newline in batch? < 1435174611 655025 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bash? < 1435174617 456935 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just \n? < 1435174635 491580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you don't want to do newline in !!!Batch? < 1435174642 981571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're making a big script, it's easier to put it on a webpage and use `fetch < 1435174655 196929 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435174658 928745 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mine'll be small < 1435174665 918264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, `fetch works? < 1435174673 417178 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides < 1435174682 902079 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting it on Github would be too much effort :P < 1435174685 846400 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ipconfig < 1435174686 585393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ipconfig: not found < 1435174687 368462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for small scripts, i use to do `run (echo ...; echo ...) >filename < 1435174692 558387 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ip-config < 1435174693 301438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ip-config: not found < 1435174707 601764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm does `mk have newline support? < 1435174713 576668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1435174730 488313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can figure out how to add it reasonably it would be nice < 1435174732 502448 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "people = ['hppavilion1']" >> people.py < 1435174733 37623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"people = ['hppavilion1']" >> people.py < 1435174751 274668 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat people.py < 1435174751 947509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435174759 128646 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't work < 1435174789 868342 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metal < 1435174790 581865 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: metal: not found < 1435174801 964845 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls Complaints < 1435174812 268130 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls Complaints < 1435174813 197000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaints < 1435174818 943486 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls Complaints/ < 1435174819 797533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access Complaints/: Not a directory < 1435174820 674905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: by default HackEgo commands get only a single argument made of everything after the command < 1435174827 289549 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435174844 25567 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help fetch < 1435174844 235032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1435174847 365999 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No command to tell HackEgo to say something that sounds metal? < 1435174859 303268 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdöm < 1435174860 496979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẗẅnḧ/ẗẅnḧ ïs dübïöüs ḧämbïgüïẗöüs ḧëlp ẗḧäẗ ẅïll ör ẅïll nöẗ bë ḧëlp. < 1435174865 630532 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. < 1435174878 38589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has mëẗäl ümläüẗs. < 1435174882 29625 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1435174902 259321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want shell, you use the special command `run or the abbreviation `` (space after needed) < 1435174907 107855 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the entirety of the arguments are one argument composed of everything after the command, separated by space? < 1435174910 78740 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spaces? < 1435174941 59866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: um the spaces aren't really separating anything, they're just there < 1435174958 938098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given it's a single argument < 1435174971 855371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi there look spaces < 1435174972 636543 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there look spaces < 1435174980 692656 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I mean the equivalent of ' '.join(sys.argv[1:]) < 1435175014 116720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: there's only one argument, so nothing to join. < 1435175022 65787 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435175028 430465 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1435175035 94372 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've checked if he was online when I joined < 1435175122 339267 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1435175123 265676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1435175125 85154 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Werid < 1435175128 497176 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Weird < 1435175137 391059 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's neat < 1435175149 473377 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to create a script for this IRC < 1435175151 299003 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for fun < 1435175155 251311 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/usr/bin/ls -l wisdom/reflection < 1435175155 587262 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do make though? < 1435175156 34965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /usr/bin/ls: No such file or directory < 1435175161 115121 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/bin/ls -l wisdom/reflection < 1435175161 829876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `/bin/ls --help' for more information. < 1435175164 619127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcöme < 1435175165 299615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | sed s/o/ö/g < 1435175193 261441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you don't need /bin/ls for anything other than the wisdom/ directory entry itself < 1435175205 560066 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "print('Hello, World!')" >> script.py < 1435175214 9236 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "print('Hello, World!')" >> script.py < 1435175214 611671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"print('Hello, World!')" >> script.py < 1435175219 712322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1435175224 532859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdöm < 1435175225 420997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ wisdom | döts < 1435175226 59421 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435175226 951334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "script.py", line 2, in <module> \ n \ NameError: name 'n' is not defined \ Hello World! < 1435175234 500580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: oh it's called döts < 1435175243 217662 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1435175243 900797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print('Hello World!') \ n < 1435175255 757195 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't edit script.py < 1435175256 881466 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halp < 1435175263 403071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Foobar! | döts < 1435175264 254202 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fööbär! < 1435175267 741262 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`halp halp I can't edit hello world.py < 1435175268 484966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: halp: not found < 1435175305 394835 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "print 'Hello, World!'" > script.py < 1435175305 965532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"print 'Hello, World!'" > script.py < 1435175306 744500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: i said, you need to use `run to get a proper shell command < 1435175312 659346 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1435175320 912242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/döts < 1435175321 549595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ sed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEIOUY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËÏÖÜŸ/" < 1435175336 636965 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "print 'Hello, World!'" > script.py) < 1435175338 565223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175347 495799 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435175348 249472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1435175350 722735 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1435175352 263043 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works now < 1435175358 555565 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l wisdom/reflection < 1435175359 442840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1435175363 69477 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/reflection < 1435175364 130501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Jun 9 16:46 wisdom/reflection -> /proc/self/cmdline < 1435175385 454515 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nsed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEHIOUWXY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËḦÏÖÜẄẌŸ/"' >bin/döts && chmod a+x bin/döts && wisdom | döts < 1435175388 295962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fẗërnöön/Fẗërnöön ïs ẗḧë ẗïmë öf däÿ ẅḧën ẗḧë Dänës üsüällÿ ëäẗ ẗḧëïr fẗërnöönërs. < 1435175403 939343 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can ẗ, but not on a T. what the fungot. < 1435175476 490046 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo"users = ['hppavilion1']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:'") > script.py < 1435175478 633772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: echousers = ['hppavilion1']: command not found < 1435175485 546553 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:'") > script.py < 1435175487 625662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175496 103430 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1435175496 793684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :users = ['hppavilion1'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:' < 1435175554 784653 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "for x in users:"; echo " print("\t"+x)";) >> script.ppy < 1435175556 872383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175557 124855 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "for x in users:"; echo " print("\t"+x)";) >> script.py < 1435175559 23779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175565 485824 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1435175566 160856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :users = ['hppavilion1'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:' \ for x in users: \ print(t+x) < 1435175574 1349 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435175577 585246 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: "A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra." -- that turns out to be a bit of a dead-end definition for a lens < 1435175579 881060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "script.py", line 4, in <module> \ print(t+x) \ NameError: name 't' is not defined \ These are the users who bothered to edit our file: < 1435175596 815554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RIFT CHICKEN < 1435175612 409416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/print* < 1435175613 111478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/print_args_or_input < 1435175620 387123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/döts < 1435175620 979955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ sed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEHIOUWXY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËḦÏÖÜẄẌŸ/" < 1435175627 48536 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:'"; echo "for x in users:"; echo " print('\\t'+x)";) > script.py < 1435175628 979275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175639 126891 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435175640 21598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ hppavilion1 < 1435175669 455329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '2s/^/print_args_or_input "$@" | /' bin/döts < 1435175671 183000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175675 259288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/döts < 1435175675 847727 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ print_args_or_input "$@" | sed -re "y/aehiotuwxyAEHIOUWXY/äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿÄËḦÏÖÜẄẌŸ/" < 1435175679 233790 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:'"; echo "for x in users:"; echo " print(x+', ')";) > script.py < 1435175681 235448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175689 985643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts fee fi fum < 1435175690 92064 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435175691 62466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fëë fï füm < 1435175691 116297 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ hppavilion1, < 1435175731 408171 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts < 1435175761 879120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175766 401215 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'll try to think of some things that aren't common in esolangs. < 1435175783 645318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: hm i think that might time out because it chooses the input path < 1435175813 824662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat < 1435175820 997145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1435175821 672071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435175828 644950 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "import sys"; echo "print(sys.argv)") > argv.py < 1435175851 16596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, HackEgo hangs up for a while if you try to read the command's stdin < 1435175856 95782 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435175868 844561 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1435175872 392198 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts sup < 1435175876 34204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175876 626203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :süp < 1435175878 11285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435175913 813358 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts `wisdom < 1435175914 557437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`ẅïsdöm < 1435175968 894607 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wisdom) > döts < 1435175969 463241 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)' \ bash: -c: line 0: `wisdom) > döts' < 1435175978 515120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym | < 1435176013 158671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's what `wisdöm already does < 1435176021 139174 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (wisdom) | döts < 1435176022 261622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ämïgä/Ämïgä ïs Spänïsḧ för ä fëmälë frïënd. < 1435176024 465347 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1435176033 222166 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435176042 170618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcöme < 1435176042 827204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | sed s/o/ö/g < 1435176060 862177 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be awesome if we gave HackEgo a B****fuck interpreter < 1435176065 410481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` welcome test | döts < 1435176066 600207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẗësẗ: Ẅëlcömë ẗö ẗḧë ïnẗërnäẗïönäl ḧüb för ësöẗërïc prögrämmïng längüägë dësïgn änd dëplöÿmënẗ! För mörë ïnförmäẗïön, cḧëck öüẗ öür ẅïkï: <ḧẗẗp://ësölängs.örg/>. (För ẗḧë öẗḧër kïnd öf ësöẗërïcä, ẗrÿ #ësöẗërïc ön ËFnëẗ ör D < 1435176076 187270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm as i feared it gets cut off < 1435176080 384932 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is just boring bot stuff :( < 1435176095 40554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: it already has one < 1435176106 432564 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435176108 254244 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1435176111 881986 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Befunge? < 1435176117 264480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf ++++++++[->+++++++<]>. < 1435176118 268520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1435176143 512356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it has befunge too although it's a bit tricky to give 2d input < 1435176143 756177 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1435176151 730619 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435176171 109826 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to ctrl+v the newlines or something? < 1435176189 821198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the esolang interpreters were imported from EgoBot so are done in this `! way < 1435176207 601654 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435176210 953667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: you cannot ctrl+v newlines in IRC, i think < 1435176221 548346 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1435176222 705504 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1435176229 95347 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to \n it? < 1435176246 520882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: hm _some_ of the interpreters support \n < 1435176261 767909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what befunge does. or if we've even tested it in HackEgo. < 1435176269 873737 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm installing Skype4Py now < 1435176293 545671 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a stack-based messaging program? < 1435176296 758593 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be interesting < 1435176304 117755 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or queue-based < 1435176327 395431 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to make that with me? < 1435176385 580783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tend to use lambdabot for messaging around here < 1435176392 52320 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1435176398 149376 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this'd be a stack-based program < 1435176400 637776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also MemoServ for the whole freenode. < 1435176406 492626 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for messaging anyone in particular < 1435176420 307194 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use pi calculus < 1435176422 679340 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queue-based client works like this: < 1435176434 364137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has the limitation that it cannot tell people they have messages unless they ask... < 1435176439 382719 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\`enqueuemsg <message> < 1435176442 823057 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not for anyone < 1435176450 313893 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a fun little program like `wisdome < 1435176453 876835 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*`wisdom < 1435176471 752589 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyone else can do `dequeuemsg < 1435176485 131442 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enqueuemsg adds a message to the back of the queue < 1435176487 635914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1435176497 860507 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dequeue message dequeues a message and prints int < 1435176499 302325 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1435176506 670185 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that sound fun? < 1435176619 44833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts it will catch on < 1435176662 208784 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435176668 835729 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lost internet < 1435176671 75267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts it will catch on < 1435176672 313925 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that sound fun? < 1435176677 153577 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could < 1435176679 292277 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might now < 1435176680 921694 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not < 1435176682 476597 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it could < 1435176715 279670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1435176719 282063 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to try making it? < 1435176734 596851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but feel free. it doesn't sound very hard. < 1435176738 203651 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435176748 32793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should get something to eat < 1435176752 208725 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to know what libraries are available for python on this < 1435176759 444558 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1435176760 349215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elli < 1435176763 695377 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1_, write it in erlang < 1435176767 207027 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435176771 487786 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know erlang < 1435176776 774627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :.u РҮРРУ < 1435176779 106128 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't a problem < 1435176784 860634 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode РҮРРУ < 1435176786 341422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0420 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ER] [U+04AE CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER STRAIGHT U] [U+0420 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ER] [U+0420 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ER] [U+0423 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER U] < 1435176786 395258 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know erlang? < 1435176788 285100 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435176801 841682 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you do it then? If it'd be best done in erlang < 1435176805 492634 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pip < 1435176806 376919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pip: not found < 1435176810 963829 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1435176814 498170 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No pip < 1435176832 937849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang doesn't sound particularly well suited, given that HackEgo cannot have persistently running programs. < 1435176838 499061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435176841 758489 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1435176849 749918 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd need to save the queue to a file < 1435176856 866780 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to use pickle < 1435176906 798665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo commands don't really have net access btw, except `fetch which cannot be used from other commands. < 1435176939 53725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a system for accessing _some_ web sites, but i think it's currently broken. < 1435176968 804449 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeee-vry-thing is broken < 1435176981 481262 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-o-othing works on this IRC < 1435176998 950436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is a bit broken. < 1435177013 496516 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to the tune of "Everything is Awesome" < 1435177051 682254 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1435177116 281360 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1435177124 243586 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make a `willhalt command < 1435177125 297635 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435177156 875476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on HackEgo, echo Yes pretty well does that. < 1435177163 130729 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works in O(infinity) < 1435177168 171892 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big picture person, I take it? < 1435177178 671431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1435177183 930041 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote we acually make that command < 1435177188 770022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what happened to my eating. < 1435177200 297184 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435177206 966621 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi neoo < 1435177211 105330 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*neo__ < 1435177215 43810 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435177218 913737 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World. < 1435177224 61408 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were just making a `willhalt command < 1435177226 518029 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my joke >:( < 1435177235 927042 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's you joke? < 1435177236 734605 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome neo__ < 1435177245 565707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06neo__: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02<http://esolangs.org/>. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1435177284 349403 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ESOLs have been very well implemented. < 1435177290 663398 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1435177298 99203 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435177299 135523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just intonation/Bad-tempered people can be recognized by just intonation. < 1435177306 252975 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever think about regular languages? < 1435177312 669585 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes < 1435177314 783847 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural language, human to human. < 1435177319 882776 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435177321 620545 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kind < 1435177322 962544 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never < 1435177323 722966 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435177333 798267 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We probably do < 1435177335 311343 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Persuasion, finding the right words to convince someone of something. < 1435177338 898992 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only been on a few days < 1435177343 478945 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind hacking. < 1435177359 245850 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1435177359 489172 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1435177365 827626 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric Natural Languages < 1435177382 951127 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind hacking. Or, if you will, brainfucking < 1435177389 341807 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1435177393 512320 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys got it. < 1435177418 821442 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#RURNM < 1435177425 766387 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1435177431 361922 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435177434 423601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ hppavilion1, < 1435177438 603413 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not yet, but you will. < 1435177445 3127 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a channel for conlangs or something? < 1435177450 519467 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^i*tau=phi < 1435177463 603039 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1435177466 372108 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are conlangs? < 1435177482 199061 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1_, constructed (spoken) languages < 1435177484 515554 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructel languages. < 1435177489 850279 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435177496 820913 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb!? < 1435177511 667287 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42=54 < 1435177513 434211 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, no one in #RURNM < 1435177518 603207 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do the math right. < 1435177530 572285 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#RURNM is on twitter and the net. < 1435177536 633019 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't started IRC yet < 1435177546 608039 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well MDude did < 1435177549 862935 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now he's the admin < 1435177554 1664 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That still needs to be implemented. < 1435177557 797170 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he just did that. < 1435177562 605778 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNLIMITED POWERRRRRRR < 1435177563 79631 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked! < 1435177568 999321 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have no idea what it is. < 1435177576 797504 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one does < 1435177583 650000 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think neo's just brainfucking with us < 1435177592 870164 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION made a bad pun < 1435177654 753686 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/hashtag/RURNM?src=hash < 1435177660 911370 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's one tweet with it. < 1435177667 804993 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was a typo. < 1435177668 241145 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lobby < 1435177669 2139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lobby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435177676 892342 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been more. < 1435177680 624496 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1435177681 461099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435177682 655561 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logging off for now < 1435177687 121409 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435177704 575111 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? Woooow you're sooooooooo metaaaa- No. < 1435177709 259799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '`?': `? Woooow you're sooooooooo metaaaa- No. < 1435177713 601796 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1435177714 684798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? Woooow you're sooooooooo metaaaa- No. < 1435177763 91086 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode - < 1435177763 758128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] < 1435177782 151734 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might want that to be an em dash. < 1435177837 926876 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have answered that with "Are you looking for '`? The Riddler' or '`? Matthew Lesko''". < 1435177876 64403 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer mine < 1435178305 762994 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer my version. < 1435178341 344781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435178352 102758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435178368 572538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you paid proper attention, you'd have noticed that wasn't a nonexisting entry hth < 1435178398 742551 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435178409 174161 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very well-hidden < 1435178465 721468 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the original was better than mine < 1435178468 409741 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1435178469 360903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435178546 646974 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1435178548 938966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1435178595 11157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435178595 771136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat/hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo < 1435178665 882926 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435178757 784607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to modify the software in a Motorola cable box? Or is there a hardware modification that can remove the on-screen-display? < 1435178769 911008 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/`? < 1435178770 560825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435178776 331900 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1435178803 952836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other way to force it not to display < 1435178855 376343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435178857 743737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1435178872 267536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/gazpacho # hth < 1435178876 454064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435178972 352114 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ب_ب < 1435178975 758822 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1435178978 928567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435179003 441250 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435179072 606654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -Rl ' ' wisdom < 1435179075 438246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/haskell \ wisdom/turkey \ wisdom/spam \ wisdom/oerjan_ \ wisdom/gaspacho \ wisdom/finnish \ wisdom/sweden \ wisdom/ocean \ wisdom/ci \ wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/atrix \ wisdom/rtf \ wisdom/irrelevant info \ wisdom/ostrich \ wisdom/htdh \ wisdom/burlesque \ wisdom/canary < 1435179115 266734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1435179115 877873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ < 1435179123 39807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1435179145 14371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -lad canary < 1435179147 577326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 5 Jun 21 18:44 canary -> bin/? < 1435179154 655159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no further questions < 1435179183 222952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits canary < 1435179185 907614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it was that link test < 1435179186 995335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 shachaf ais523 oerjan oerjan ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 ais523 shachaf int-e oerjan elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull c00kiemon5ter Phantom_Hoover elliott oerjan shachaf elliott ais523 elliott ais523 nitia < 1435179227 557574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; echo Spjong >canary < 1435179229 152607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179240 162618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1435179240 849057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spjong < 1435179256 492090 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179256 582116 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1435179256 582170 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179308 676946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? turkey < 1435179309 321962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them into conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining, and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1435179311 731217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ostrich < 1435179314 786319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1435179341 430554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/turkey wisdom/ostrich < 1435179342 50221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1435179346 667730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435179350 186868 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435179351 359716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/turkey wisdom/ostrich < 1435179352 954747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179373 974362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspacho < 1435179374 733342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1435179393 458794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sweden < 1435179394 93022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden is the suburb capital of Norway. It's where all the Nobel prizes are announced, except the Math Prize. < 1435179413 974386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ocean < 1435179414 617550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pacific Ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The Atlantic Ocean is less cool than its giant underwater mountain range. The Arctic Ocean is cold. The Indian Ocean is full of typhoons and non-Eurocentric shipping. < 1435179435 326781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait where is the / / in that < 1435179453 129839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/{gaspacho,sweden} < 1435179460 700993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179512 738357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finnish < 1435179513 501921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish suomalaiset ei Perkeleistä on hakkapeliittaan. Ei saa peittää. Parasta ennen! < 1435179519 894486 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1435179522 647693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam < 1435179524 64820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1435179537 725741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ci < 1435179538 494036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1435179560 419751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/{finnish,spam,ci} < 1435179561 916004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179574 713942 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179581 248117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atrix < 1435179581 978932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atrix is a brand of hand cream. Not to be confused with atriq. < 1435179595 275373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rtf < 1435179596 447591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1435179600 824046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? htdh < 1435179601 557405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HtDH is a classic text on How to Design Hotdogs or possibly Hogprams. It is all about functional condiments, and was co-authored by Herence Tao and Don Ho. < 1435179619 368161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/{atrix,rtf,htdh} < 1435179623 31139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179653 19165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan_ < 1435179654 96785 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_ is oerjan and ørjan's chimæric clone. he shows up on irc when the network is having trouble. < 1435179657 931057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa < 1435179669 749853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irrelevant info < 1435179670 544695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHL?%y9vnkM_v46 $Tn`ʋxkH2gqH;!;2F(zإ2CmXW < 1435179674 393480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burlesque < 1435179675 294353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque) < 1435179703 704028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/{oerjan_,burlesque} < 1435179704 116409 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179705 549006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179717 31507 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? No Output < 1435179717 712959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Output? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435179726 751390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -Rl ' ' wisdom < 1435179727 550263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/haskell \ wisdom/ocean \ wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/irrelevant info \ wisdom/ostrich < 1435179736 877910 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435179737 656620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1435179737 827521 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     | < 1435179737 892034 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o < 1435179749 451055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/{ostrich} < 1435179750 353407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/{ostrich}: No such file or directory < 1435179758 927875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/ostrich < 1435179761 194184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179768 71778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1435179768 901776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1435179773 103788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with double spaces < 1435179781 89313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ocean < 1435179782 313726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pacific Ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The Atlantic Ocean is less cool than its giant underwater mountain range. The Arctic Ocean is cold. The Indian Ocean is full of typhoons and non-Eurocentric shipping. < 1435179805 779398 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179818 579319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming terminology I really like: "truthy"/"falsey" referring to how if-like constructs see the truth values of things that aren't booleans < 1435179820 186581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep ' ' wisdom/ocean < 1435179820 814166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pacific Ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The Atlantic Ocean is less cool than its giant underwater mountain range. The Arctic Ocean is cold. The Indian Ocean is full of typhoons and non-Eurocentric shipping. < 1435179823 821009 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435179828 600330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is the ' ' < 1435179845 660045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ *$/' wisdom/ocean < 1435179846 524974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unterminated `s' command < 1435179849 701690 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435179851 375942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ *$//' wisdom/ocean < 1435179852 707258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n '['; cat wisdom/ocean; echo -n ']' < 1435179853 325047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435179854 18576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[The Pacific Ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The Atlantic Ocean is less cool than its giant underwater mountain range. The Arctic Ocean is cold. The Indian Ocean is full of typhoons and non-Eurocentric shipping. \ ] < 1435179866 747032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled < 1435179885 214964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -Rl ' ' wisdom < 1435179886 425958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/haskell \ wisdom/reflection \ wisdom/irrelevant info < 1435179891 818408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONE < 1435179904 795873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you hate double spaces so much < 1435179904 899311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: some people seem to hate them tdnh < 1435179921 741949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is why do you hate inconsistency < 1435179927 529036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1435179932 145151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was fine with fixing them opportunistically < 1435179948 27055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435179949 240730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algol/ALGOL stands for A Programming Language < 1435179979 207438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ALOGL is a logarithmic language. < 1435179981 728389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'alogl': ALOGL is a logarithmic language. < 1435180139 991686 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180141 106326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefly/FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1435180155 704989 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180156 429472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke/mauke is a Master Archer. Caution! He can shoot your PRIVMSG with creative arrows! < 1435180162 531856 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180163 624221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right/Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1435180181 42800 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180182 252402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :group/groups are just loops with the property of associativity < 1435180194 910701 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180196 234015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@/@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour < 1435180202 190873 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180203 362549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zimbabwe/olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation. < 1435180210 643826 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180211 918633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :browser/A browser is a Gopher client for convenient access to Gopher services and documents. < 1435180223 175059 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180224 519155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen/Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1435180232 358163 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180233 572653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go/Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1435180238 895655 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180239 803217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir/lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. < 1435180244 882293 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180245 983158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck/brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. < 1435180251 694941 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180252 868354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯\(°_o)a/ < 1435180253 42003 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |       | < 1435180253 122961 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o   o/`¯º < 1435180271 435767 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435180272 713626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get/apt-get installs whatever you wanted, plus whatever Mark Shuttleworth wanted. < 1435180281 185166 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1435180296 635322 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heh < 1435180297 665639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435180309 311343 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1435180310 265847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435180317 940075 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435180340 908471 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn lol/lol stands for laughing out legends < 1435180343 554028 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lol» < 1435180379 95878 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435180464 499088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn heh stands for hope ectoplasm helps. < 1435180466 896152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'heh': heh stands for hope ectoplasm helps. < 1435180541 433120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn now i had an idea for lol < 1435180575 479275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1435180581 634446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls e* < 1435180582 394289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error.log \ \ emoticons: \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ useless \ \ etc: \ luarocks < 1435180600 87030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo lol >emoticons/drowning < 1435180602 175631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435180616 954473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1435180915 463610 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo o凸 < 1435180916 431602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o凸 < 1435180928 239299 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo o凸 >emoticons/flipbird < 1435180931 576564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435180954 227176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the o? < 1435180962 616492 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 凸 >emoticons/flipbird < 1435180964 456688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435180986 124292 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435180991 959021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 凸 < 1435180992 511742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+51F8 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-51F8] < 1435181020 624330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look very CJK < 1435181081 547882 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is apparently used in the word 凸凹 (dekoboko) meaning bumpy < 1435181166 602488 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm those are fun kanji to write < 1435181175 881797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the kanji version of onomatopoeia? < 1435181240 17013 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1435181243 789573 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435181516 176654 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only a few kanji which are unequivocally pictograms... < 1435181753 130174 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather a lot more if you count kanji which began life as pictograms. < 1435181768 237710 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, like 犬? < 1435181790 977316 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 虎, 鳥, 馬... < 1435181806 611468 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-Modifying Brainfuck < 1435181813 818147 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been done < 1435181830 562828 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck-Derived Self-Modifying Language < 1435181834 70426 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSMLang < 1435181835 303277 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435181836 124214 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and 龍. Can't forget that one. < 1435181842 122326 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :雨 is one that still looks like its meaning < 1435181845 761319 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brain-modifying self-fuck < 1435181859 199172 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1435181861 971259 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez. < 1435181892 440193 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need an EsoMULang < 1435181919 737650 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1435181924 770062 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-Modifying Markup < 1435181973 417846 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... what? < 1435181994 274833 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just let it sink in < 1435181996 945726 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up modifying markself < 1435182015 936696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's about 600 that are literally pictograms (mutated or otherwise) < 1435182111 71388 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435182199 753824 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435182200 467783 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, 串 < 1435182213 202029 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :menaing shishkabobs < 1435182248 124809 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435182841 68332 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435182952 623246 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435183109 40205 :hppavilion1_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435183388 779019 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435183529 250893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435183545 392424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43269 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2023) 10Created Page < 1435183635 93172 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435183652 58260 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaaay I wrote a language that actually has a specification < 1435183782 134606 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am tempted to write the rainbow < 1435184115 555345 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: so the BF program is interpreted on a 36-bit BF? < 1435184122 952965 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1435184236 928769 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435184239 361273 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1435184243 742057 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_ < 1435184258 264753 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Retroactive name: ing) < 1435184297 340038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43270&oldid=43269 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+9) 1036 bit Brainfuck < 1435184333 120540 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Do it. DO IT. < 1435184653 574725 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435184707 815689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43271&oldid=43270 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+423) 10Variants. < 1435184873 473231 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't links to categories show? < 1435184892 376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43272&oldid=43271 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+62) 10Equivalents (Why won't links to categories show?) < 1435184899 737002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435184965 962403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1435184969 414301 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not now < 1435184977 962074 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435184982 135852 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's half past twelve here < 1435184984 266277 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well Do it. DO IT. Later. < 1435184985 185709 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435185042 807284 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: feature request: you should be able to get the number of chars < 1435185058 799831 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1435185070 680585 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that inclusive of the first line? < 1435185076 369420 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd do something like "the first cell contains the length and is omitted in regards of formating" < 1435185084 118398 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435185091 779187 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435185096 452295 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's definitely a good idea < 1435185096 662243 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like: i want to rainvow everything < 1435185109 23396 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this i need to know how many cells to write < 1435185119 860706 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i have to loop forever < 1435185128 503943 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your Esolangs username myname? < 1435185134 319720 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to credit you < 1435185137 89346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if the number in the first cdml is a good idea, though < 1435185143 798154 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would.breal the base 36 < 1435185148 798128 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*break < 1435185153 902657 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me sleep over it < 1435185161 179152 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1435185168 742042 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1435185195 277498 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it could be that BFML isn't 36-bit brainfuck so much as 36+-bit brainfuck < 1435185200 363016 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with that < 1435185236 885218 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has several other disadvantages < 1435185247 82924 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we could make it so , always inputs the program length... < 1435185258 909517 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatks what i thought, too < 1435185295 805652 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better: , inputs the number of the text minus the position of the current cell < 1435185318 165983 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if , returns 0 you can break out of a loop because you formatted everything < 1435185333 25036 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435185344 539189 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would return the current character count? < 1435185353 841167 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :example < 1435185367 832597 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello world" is 11 chars wide < 1435185414 337141 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[-]+>,] would bold.everything < 1435185418 353047 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435185424 204243 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, in the front, too < 1435185431 261242 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first , would give 11 < 1435185435 119742 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second 10 < 1435185435 941055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43273&oldid=43272 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+111) 10, command < 1435185438 534678 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third 9 < 1435185441 393461 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1435185473 829933 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would zero the current cell out, make it a 1 for bold and move to the next cell < 1435185492 231357 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435185495 333921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if , reads 0 you are actually behind the whole sting < 1435185518 625695 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent idea < 1435185530 945934 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variations that don't break base 36: , only returns 0 or 1 < 1435185543 541049 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzezz < 1435185546 542904 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again < 1435185554 599258 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2**36==68,719,476,736 < 1435185560 595412 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>True < 1435185594 672602 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go eat dinner < 1435185598 224011 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back in a bit < 1435185647 442579 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435185652 416794 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite yet < 1435185698 563419 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Can I get your esolangs account so I don't lose track of you? < 1435185733 16633 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's myname, but i am here practically all the time, too < 1435185752 715800 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remove 4 bits from text size it's base 32 and much neater < 1435185756 612329 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I do that? < 1435185792 570300 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... < 1435185801 973075 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes the max text size 16 < 1435185838 142622 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make , return 0 or 1 your text size isn't limited < 1435185850 412702 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd actually become eof check < 1435185866 647020 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435185930 554501 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about we use a different character for eof detector? < 1435185933 767492 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like % < 1435185944 174152 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or . would be nice < 1435185945 723298 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435185950 923814 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. is the eof detector < 1435185991 402805 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so? < 1435186018 203536 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty confusing since in normal bf . does not change the cells < 1435186030 617609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43274&oldid=43273 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+29) 10. operator < 1435186042 74548 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do think not having only 0 and 1 is also nice < 1435186043 128918 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the period means the end of a setnence < 1435186050 692673 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are nice < 1435186067 449889 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 and 0 is cleaner and allows for infinte file length < 1435186071 165797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435186072 478857 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with that < 1435186089 735981 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another idea: , could be (text size - cell pos) mod 35 + 1 < 1435186098 616940 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1435186104 573448 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can edit it into the page < 1435186110 58360 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just be sure to explain it < 1435186115 471922 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this way you always have > 0 on text and 0 on eof < 1435186136 739671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: in which time zone are you? what are your approximative coördinates and body weigh? < 1435186150 308219 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I'm on michigan time < 1435186155 511863 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a rule I'm usually on AKST < 1435186181 194900 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm usually on Hong Kong time but I _should_ be on AKST :P < 1435186191 661838 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuh... < 1435186228 728847 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could I get that in UTC offset? < 1435186256 973598 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that intended to be Alaska's time zone? < 1435186266 567473 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42.8298539,-84.2789851,16z < 1435186286 809521 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52.163 kg < 1435186290 908498 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go eat dinner < 1435186293 288770 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be back in a bit < 1435186312 20049 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: michigan is probably -5. hong kong is +9. < 1435186324 547710 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what AKST was. < 1435186936 301704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KLAN < 1435186936 818725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KLAN 242253Z 26006KT 10SM CLR 24/12 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP189 T02440122 < 1435187048 49279 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michigan is -5 outside of Move the Clocks Forward For a While Time. < 1435187119 42109 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435187119 953563 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1435187416 460115 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1435187448 766633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1435187456 164773 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435187460 69043 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1435187472 357361 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a "Alert all" thing < 1435187487 720085 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname? < 1435187517 467205 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does the ? break it < 1435187519 517006 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname < 1435187591 43146 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435187599 300085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am almost sleeping < 1435187601 582597 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435187603 27873 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435187624 249833 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will write stuff in a bunch of hours < 1435187624 303803 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering implementing a befunge-like EsoMULang < 1435187626 504599 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435187670 429714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:Markup Languages14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43275 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+20) 10Created Page < 1435187810 731145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43276&oldid=43274 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+20) 10Categories < 1435187869 492330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43277&oldid=43276 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10 < 1435187916 749370 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43278&oldid=43277 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+18) 102015 < 1435187943 253135 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`clear < 1435187953 625297 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435187959 897959 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello lleu < 1435187961 187970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1435187977 21573 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been around here before? < 1435188029 109658 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen them talk yet, but they've been joining the chännel for a while. < 1435188038 19391 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435188052 5270 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how should my BMU work? < 1435188064 15059 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to just be befunge marking up text < 1435188067 475251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how? < 1435188075 303040 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435188083 855828 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I definitely don't want something like the output of the stack joined together in HTML < 1435188120 740608 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1435188126 24285 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joined together in HTML" < 1435188165 779654 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn HTMarriageL I now pronounce you Markup Language and StyleSheet Language < 1435188169 648375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'htmarriagel': HTMarriageL I now pronounce you Markup Language and StyleSheet Language < 1435188192 24743 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOR I could make a stylesheet language for BFML < 1435188291 906370 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a better idea? < 1435188427 394506 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stylesheet languages for this kind of thing resembles syntax hiliting hth < 1435188799 902779 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435189037 876962 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435189049 167731 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1435189193 277975 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone's there... < 1435189280 736898 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still stuck with me. < 1435189508 545277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am on here, but, still I don't quite know by now. < 1435189623 87850 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435189626 661496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir/lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. < 1435189648 747075 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have Starcraft about him... < 1435189675 620126 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no. it's LoL. < 1435189683 376676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435189684 321657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internationale/You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee < 1435189714 73609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/internationale < 1435189717 301746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan < 1435189726 608745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion114]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43279 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+320) 10Created Page < 1435189780 335088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought the internationale united the human race < 1435189848 252364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Purely Functional Imperative Language14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43280 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+11) 10Filler < 1435189902 549695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Ideas14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43281 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+102) 10Created Page < 1435190236 439548 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-emtbncirccnlaekl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435190332 862373 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435190370 447874 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-euwibvljqbdycupe JOIN :#esoteric < 1435190453 931438 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435190468 271249 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1435190477 606364 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's get down to business < 1435190485 398256 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To defeat the Hun < 1435190492 336290 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-euwibvljqbdycupe QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435190580 78685 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they send me daughters when I asked for sons < 1435190610 337620 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bponjfwmdvnrotey JOIN :#esoteric < 1435190866 900962 :egrep!~egrepnix@grpnx.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1435191076 152507 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wields his trusty mapole < 1435191274 899706 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435191334 370910 :egrep!~egrepnix@grpnx.org PART #esoteric :"Huh." < 1435192396 446646 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-cemstkxybheemlvy QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435192445 642088 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-twcqvzaecxjgtkez JOIN :#esoteric < 1435192511 817499 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435193295 556097 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435193314 829047 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435193327 800186 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435193353 781963 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooo.... < 1435193658 507347 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ooooooo... ♪ < 1435193684 931640 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ < 1435193685 75753 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        |   |   |   |   | < 1435193685 169191 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        >\ /´\  |\ /<   >\ < 1435193686 68711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Languages14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43282 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+251) 10Created Page < 1435193864 60603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Table14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43283 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+156) 10Created page with "This is a kewlzez language. Can you improve the specification? --~~~~" < 1435194082 376966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Table14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43284&oldid=43258 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-141) 10 < 1435194544 330708 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:21aa:dd9:5560:4709 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435194789 412289 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hnkonaxobcccmvym QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435195406 265918 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435195475 241967 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bponjfwmdvnrotey QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435195530 268443 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso JOIN :#esoteric < 1435195568 901037 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all < 1435195575 562431 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You on? < 1435195632 439543 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm logged in, I exist. it's a Canadian thing: intermittent corporeality. < 1435195649 751130 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435195651 372158 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1435195667 494928 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you do implementation? < 1435195726 49516 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a running gag some time ago, where Canada's existence wasn't proved yet. < 1435195736 533900 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do implement stuff, yes. < 1435195741 584834 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1435195757 521610 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's this really good one that you may have been on when it was being discussed < 1435195768 293792 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1435195773 225640 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has potential to _actually_ be useful < 1435195775 290826 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table < 1435195783 704815 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Table < 1435195887 682281 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vying for TCness is usually the First Step©® for having a useful programming language hth < 1435195935 292513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435195939 909664 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, TCness isn't reall necessary to be useful < 1435195943 556440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: turing completeness is scow < 1435195950 273425 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't be directly based on the original design < 1435195950 327069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codensity/Codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1435195951 443926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta work hard to avoid it but it's worth it < 1435196026 390115 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What langs do you use for implementing? < 1435196084 276161 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go AFK for a few minutes < 1435196096 933586 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducktapes a piece of cardboard with "PRO COMPLETENESS" written on it on his mapole and manifests while shouting random slogans < 1435196133 459711 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever's handy. if I were to implement an esointerpreter now, I'd be using Python. < 1435196144 315215 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps even Java, if I'm feeling particularly evil for the day.) < 1435196329 705144 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435196344 544175 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Python cause I'm a softcore goodass < 1435196426 997536 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily ? < 1435196430 312360 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1435196432 898888 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1435196433 794004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. < 1435196451 377477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435196453 44918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot/fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1435196464 442115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/fungot < 1435196464 654579 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435196468 737002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan elliott boily Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1435196469 450076 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What langs do you implement in?? < 1435196478 107698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were timing out. < 1435196485 382477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1435196486 56114 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435196486 374455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1435196492 767947 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1435196492 939431 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that I use Python, or maybe even Java if I'm feeling evil. < 1435196497 478130 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435196499 687700 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1435196520 102548 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for someone who uses python to implement :P < 1435196524 632873 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented quite a non-homeopathic quantity of esolangs in Ruby, too. but that was back in the day, and haven't touched that in a few years. < 1435196546 44169 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1435196588 806615 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have done one or two in perl. < 1435196609 422889 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs silently at the phrase "non-homeopathic" < 1435196628 404566 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool < 1435196643 17624 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do you want to try to implement an improved variant on Table? < 1435196691 702950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could coach you :) < 1435196705 435140 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a working draft atm? < 1435196710 960316 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet < 1435196715 808812 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where I was going to start < 1435196732 797575 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was going to start with the specification < 1435196752 975130 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm basing it on Haskell and the original doc < 1435196812 558488 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided that as a Working and possibly Final name, I'm calling this derivative Peano < 1435196852 735102 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Weird capitalization habits < 1435196905 858987 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/15IhFJ9patZ-CINalHAyDMTxfdwyopGnkiZBtAljBVYY/edit?usp=sharing < 1435196970 678488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435196972 741298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get/apt-get installs whatever you wanted, plus whatever Mark Shuttleworth wanted. < 1435196995 310808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435196998 649303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_______hoover/It doesn't get any better than this. < 1435197004 668733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion_: don't worry. I have weird malamanteau habits. < 1435197007 564758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435197008 425587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php/php is the PigeonHole Principle < 1435197066 97890 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that reference... < 1435197081 671962 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, itself, a reference due to the Avengers movie < 1435197086 366274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what reference < 1435197124 674525 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :malamanteau < 1435197135 661124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a reference < 1435197139 104666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a malamanteau < 1435197154 212193 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1435197160 71882 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words can be more than one category < 1435197191 637143 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually writ things in C or C++ < 1435197212 596401 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a portmaneau, a malapropism, a malamanteau, a noun, and a bunch of other things < 1435197213 570381 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion_: careful about that word, "category." it has MEANINGS in this here chännel. < 1435197226 302146 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1435197230 590718 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean? < 1435197230 900457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1435197254 676816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you prefer bicategories or cellcategories < 1435197256 57000 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion_: it's usually to the Rabbit Hole of Category Theory. caveat emptor and all that sort of thing. < 1435197268 489844 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1435197269 765693 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/into/ < 1435197274 179532 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to refresh my page < 1435197293 873177 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do I? < 1435197297 620197 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do < 1435197303 132479 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autoscroll broke :/ < 1435197310 442125 :hppavilion_!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435197329 707636 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435197330 466977 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1435197338 659631 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BEAT THE CHANSERV MESSAGE < 1435197340 373283 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOO < 1435197351 88625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what chanserv message? < 1435197359 552381 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ChanServ- [#esoteric] Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki> < 1435197368 326347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv doesn't send messages hth < 1435197375 581624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't see that < 1435197382 504150 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I get it every time < 1435197389 715087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435197394 970708 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably has to do with the fact that I'm running on Freenode < 1435197396 835114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess/Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1435197400 559648 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The webchat < 1435197410 604370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was lying sorry < 1435197414 130844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: chanserv does send it, but it often goes to the server tab < 1435197414 824261 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1435197417 757392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the order in which things happen < 1435197418 374654 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435197419 292999 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1435197509 58761 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1435197523 761649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi has surprising behaviors for certain types of messages < 1435197533 234953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLUS(X,Y): X[^Y=]; Y. PRED(X): A,B=0; X[B[^A=]=1]; A. TIMES(X,Y): A=0; X[PLUS(A=,Y)]; A. MINUS(X,Y): Y[PRED(X=)]; X. EQUAL(X,Y): A=1; MINUS(X,Y)[A=0]; MINUS(Y,X)[A=0]; A. PUT(F(),X,Y,Z): A=F(Z); EQUAL(X,Z)[A=Y]; A. # That is a new kind of programming language I suppose < 1435197536 118073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but you don't use irssi < 1435197569 215198 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like functional programming < 1435197587 802207 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very strange ... < 1435197639 108845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose, it is like functional programming but very strange < 1435197657 183271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm currently working on a language which is like object oriented programming but very strange < 1435197662 756566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call the paradigm "object cooriented programming" < 1435197681 957980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: O, OK, let's see when you have something, you can show us what it is, I guess < 1435197685 161874 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh? < 1435197690 623566 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eeeeh? < 1435197749 782309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really finished, I can post what I have if you like < 1435197766 411014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started trying to write a program, I've been trying to implement an if statement < 1435197776 300379 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1435197777 587697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what problems I went into < 1435197778 817921 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435197821 607612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: bearing in mind unfinished, everything is subject to change, etc.: http://sprunge.us/VjPi < 1435197869 721819 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MONONOMIAL CHICKEN < 1435197895 120971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: the language is designed in particular so that you can static-analyse all the asserts; however I don't know if I succeeded at that < 1435197905 456940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure the way basic types work is quite what I want < 1435198103 159050 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how does co-object oriented programming work? < 1435198165 249455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: you call methods by setting properties on objects, the methods notice and start running, then they take their arguments by searching all the objects in existence for properties saying that they're the arguments < 1435198191 222942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and scope is done in terms of property names, you tend to generate a lot of local/ephemeral properties that can exist on everything < 1435198191 327198 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1435198202 983474 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a good one < 1435198252 106223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another of my favourite things about TCTOE is that it does recursion with a queue, rather than a stack < 1435198260 327052 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435198268 833218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was definitely a good reason for this originally, but I can't remember what it is < 1435198275 454117 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. < 1435198277 736411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something to do with the verification? < 1435198297 585013 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursion Queue. < 1435198311 87337 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I never think about that? < 1435198331 710380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it makes no sense :-) < 1435198357 49280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I had to make tail recursion not use it so that you could actually do things like nested if statements < 1435198377 378153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I added a tail-recursion keyword, and called it goto because a) precedent, b) hilarity < 1435198397 269083 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1435198400 718459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto [_old_this].then.run!; < 1435198412 818659 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason webchat no longer scrolls down as new messges occur < 1435198418 325293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go, code that would be very difficult to translate into any other language in a general way < 1435198421 416018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: scroll to the bottom < 1435198429 507888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that help? < 1435198443 33428 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1435198461 119314 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep having to do that < 1435198484 931568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not sure I can help then < 1435198499 935046 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435198514 426823 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to help me write a language specification? < 1435198526 551410 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi variable < 1435198548 348713 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You new here? < 1435198574 948703 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: sometimes < 1435198583 235560 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I change < 1435198592 758262 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: but I'm happy to help you write a spec < 1435198595 348135 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1435198596 824104 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435198610 6948 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1435198614 919170 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to ais < 1435198621 192612 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that works too < 1435198633 355376 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any haskell? < 1435198641 124403 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: yes < 1435198652 962784 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1435198660 500485 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1435198661 342002 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty much necessary for this < 1435198666 122965 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Table < 1435198667 970042 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: see, I told you I change < 1435198674 231370 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1435198675 769620 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constant < 1435198722 485221 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/15IhFJ9patZ-CINalHAyDMTxfdwyopGnkiZBtAljBVYY/edit?usp=sharing < 1435198731 983980 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully no one will destroy everything :P < 1435198806 627202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant: well you don't change any more :-P < 1435198816 921350 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm a mutable constant < 1435198818 703687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except in languages like Forte and INTERCAL) < 1435198829 668494 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLASPHEMY < 1435198860 941116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have an INTERCAL interp in here? < 1435198875 166483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!intercal DO READ OUT #5 DO GIVE UP < 1435198882 204935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! intercal DO READ OUT #5 DO GIVE UP < 1435198882 882318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/intercal: not found < 1435198887 507910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435198890 895543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c-intercal DO READ OUT #5 DO GIVE UP < 1435198891 581094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/c-intercal: not found < 1435198897 386827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls ibin < 1435198898 423834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ asm \ axo \ bch \ befunge \ befunge98 \ bf \ bf16 \ bf32 \ bf8 \ bf_txtgen \ boolfuck \ c \ cintercal \ clcintercal \ cxx \ dimensifuck \ forth \ glass \ glypho \ haskell \ help \ java \ k \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ malbolge \ pbrain \ perl \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ sh \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ u < 1435198902 120800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no hyphen < 1435198906 637699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! cintercal DO READ OUT #5 DO GIVE UP < 1435198916 531075 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435198920 962336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ V < 1435198924 905150 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435198974 240139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! clcintercal DO .1 <- .2/#5 DO .1 <- #6 DO READ OUT #5 PLEASE GIVE UP < 1435198983 37129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :V < 1435198987 989446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh < 1435198992 261736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! clcintercal DO .1 <- .2/#5 DO .2 <- #6 DO READ OUT #5 PLEASE GIVE UP < 1435198999 106142 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VI < 1435199001 699505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1435199030 898191 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``ls ibin/help < 1435199031 539299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `ls: not found < 1435199047 559063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! help < 1435199048 483955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ! or interp command calls various language interpreters transfered from old EgoBot. Try `url ibin/ for a list. < 1435199051 484881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: is that what you wanted to do? < 1435199064 144573 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls ibin/help < 1435199065 62855 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibin/help < 1435199076 436433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: it's just a file < 1435199078 212509 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1435199081 682217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls will simply report that it exists < 1435199089 208448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run it with "`! help", which is what I just did < 1435199097 205575 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to identify whether it was a dir or a file < 1435199151 987905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be a directory? < 1435199156 443833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially if I can execute it?) < 1435199160 538084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l ibin/help < 1435199162 34207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 132 Apr 15 07:51 ibin/help < 1435199195 563615 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you hadn't executed it yet < 1435199205 367105 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can kind of execute directories in python :P < 1435199214 180223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has the +x flag set, so < 1435199216 756408 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can import packages, that is < 1435199218 781545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ibin/help < 1435199219 503352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ! or interp command calls various language interpreters transfered from old EgoBot. Try `url ibin/ for a list. < 1435199225 296483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1435199226 686194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ibin < 1435199227 482657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ibin: command not found < 1435199231 165297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./ibin < 1435199231 973813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ./ibin: Is a directory < 1435199241 400788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the message I expected (not the usual "access denied") < 1435199244 720589 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant < 1435199306 310542 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435199447 475864 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435199466 588125 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435199496 419469 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could've just /clear'd < 1435199506 120977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199507 154219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpun/funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. < 1435199540 660924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199541 723131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact/facts are lies. They are not there. Go away! < 1435199546 495023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199547 881109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rholypoly/A rholypoly is an edible Greek species of Armadillidiidae. Goes well with garlic! < 1435199576 158165 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant? < 1435199577 829627 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1435199635 25787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you `wisdom five times do you have to delete one? < 1435199636 669613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199637 522337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :138) <Phantom_Hoover> It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! <alise> WRONG 8 WEEKS < 1435199638 195443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199638 978757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :422) <Sgeo> My memory passed <monqy> rest in peace sgeos memory < 1435199639 659172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199640 583964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :613) <ais523> the parser would be even simpler if I didn't try to do type inference in it < 1435199641 220794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199642 374445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :536) <Gregor> But whereas the Zune UI makes one think "I want to kill myself", the Windows CE UI makes one think "I want to kill myself, but first kill my parents as punishment for bringing into this world someone who would one day own a Windows CE device." < 1435199642 693573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199643 524458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :29) <oklopol> anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true <oklopol> should put that on my todo list < 1435199660 165316 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote? < 1435199660 984683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quote?: not found < 1435199665 519526 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199666 407628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1200) <MDude> It seems there aren't any expert systems for answering questions on the nature of expert systems. < 1435199666 461455 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1435199671 324770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199682 15000 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help quote < 1435199682 160857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1435199696 833524 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does I add a quote/ < 1435199697 227729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I tried that a few times. < 1435199701 743043 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199702 371189 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does I add a quote? < 1435199705 317565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435199706 226447 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1435199710 558365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But deleting wisdom seems kind of rude. < 1435199716 472288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess deleting quotes is rude too. < 1435199717 500865 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's JUST what I as going to do < 1435199719 250836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199719 678744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199720 103556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199720 421946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199720 635423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435199724 956487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zimbabwe/olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation. < 1435199725 169112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly/We don't know what certainly is for sure, but at least it isn't a functor. < 1435199729 833316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download/Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is the most readable functional programming language out there. < 1435199729 939585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lachine/Unholy portal to China, closely guarded from Ëvil by Roujo. < 1435199729 993349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain/Brains are just receptacles for bricks. < 1435199735 73410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yu meant `addquote < 1435199737 689441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1435199752 147768 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199758 432508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1245) <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199758 681891 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I believe is my first added quote. < 1435199817 384256 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <pikhq> `addquote <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199819 39608 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1435199819 501967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1246) <pikhq> `addquote <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199821 285815 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so meta < 1435199842 211671 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Even This Acronym < 1435199855 729700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context < 1435199861 602927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there < 1435199865 80492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1246 < 1435199871 330565 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However < 1435199874 992140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* <pikhq> `addquote <ais523> do we seriously not do quotes any more? < 1435199891 250832 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird for someone to addquote an addquote < 1435199922 861111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, it's been tried way too many times < 1435199925 553859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `addquote < 1435199928 43244 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435199929 470529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if any still survive < 1435199929 884536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :318) <elliott_> `addquote <olsner> two quotes about quotes about django <olsner> I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django <olsner> elliott_: another quote? you're not helping :/ \ 774) <zzo38> Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? \ < 1435199930 131264 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435199941 143790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's actually a good quote. < 1435199960 448629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <ais523> hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context <ais523> because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there < 1435199962 475749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1246) <ais523> hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context <ais523> because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there < 1435199979 475980 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have to leave that one < 1435199990 214602 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435199991 15347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :612) <elliott> ais523: I pronounce "xor" by punching myself in the face and then "or" < 1435200025 244021 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesoem < 1435200028 481532 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awesome < 1435200121 130291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435200121 468458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435200122 128934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia/metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks. < 1435200122 578787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada/Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1435200123 316137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435200123 543621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435200123 753432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435200127 599026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone/drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1435200128 154095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cow/A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. < 1435200128 257622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1435200141 635935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/cow < 1435200147 261900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott boily < 1435200214 845929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you say your thesis would be published? < 1435200239 521907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: pedantic answer is "I didn't", but I have to submit the corrections early in July < 1435200246 585842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how long it'll take to be published after the corrections are submitted < 1435200268 854409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of "but" you could say "and". < 1435200277 833836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't any actual reason for a long delay at that point, so it'll just be typical bureaucratic delay plus a few days < 1435200280 425878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you'd seem slightly more pedantic and still communicate useful information. < 1435200287 897165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha, that would be even more pedantic, yes < 1435201183 922247 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435201225 632657 :One_!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435201248 496162 :One_!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 NICK :Guest78511 < 1435201279 250010 :Guest78511!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435201297 550936 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435201374 41573 :neo__!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435201393 576126 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435201418 338832 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1435201421 449628 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome username < 1435201525 42181 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant < 1435201528 103965 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here constant < 1435201531 841071 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435201674 394773 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435201761 143 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: sorry: am in airport and things happened < 1435201861 467369 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily implement Al Dente twbh hth < 1435201861 570482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435201938 402196 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435201941 537908 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn wfraatw/A WFRAATW is a well-founded recursive acronym akin to "WFRAATW". < 1435201941 591686 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435201947 351314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «wfraatw» < 1435201952 883955 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? WFRAATW < 1435201953 814323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A WFRAATW is a well-founded recursive acronym akin to "WFRAATW". < 1435201971 458073 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know? The acronym "WFRAATW" is a WFRAATW. < 1435201988 617184 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! < 1435202004 45598 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ezra Wacky Shark is an anagram of my meat world name < 1435202005 436708 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to the fact that it's a well-founded recursive acronym, along with the identity kinship. < 1435202025 998026 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are not a bot, please do not respond. < 1435202043 68749 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435202059 638786 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap, now I need to find out what some good anagrams of my name are. < 1435202069 632320 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 is a bot. < 1435202073 844636 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435202076 180317 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1435202081 438098 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is a bot < 1435202088 612929 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't respond. < 1435202097 756399 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did right there. < 1435202098 232025 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wet Entrants. < 1435202118 19200 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed you meant "please do not respond to the message 'If you are not a bot, please do not respond.'". < 1435202125 242741 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To prove you are not a bot, write a haiku. < 1435202139 252517 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a haiku / but it is probably not / a very good one. < 1435202149 69086 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captchas have been implemented in this IRC < 1435202173 615249 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/5/5 not 5/7/5 < 1435202177 449515 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no match < 1435202199 553025 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand. < 1435202220 728128 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one last check, but I don't think you're a bot. < 1435202249 404029 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been battling replicants for months, I thought I was losing my mind < 1435202265 656807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: Where's your Go rules page? < 1435202274 296015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: there are quite a few non-bots here, also quite a few bots < 1435202275 986788 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1435202282 174758 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you should see *my* Go rules page. < 1435202291 331217 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: are you asking me? < 1435202314 106994 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, what is a Go rules page? < 1435202317 283090 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://senseis.xmp.net/?RulesOfGo < 1435202319 40903 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1435202345 964186 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like that. < 1435202350 429760 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why did your name turn red? < 1435202351 359626 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney can order undead drone strikes on you < 1435202354 649024 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't question him < 1435202376 849569 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my Go rules page: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BridgeGo < 1435202377 690510 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was here earlier, used an alternate pseudonym. < 1435202390 114413 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will now explain why my name turned red. < 1435202400 278149 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, GO! < 1435202415 49435 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :of that was not among the really good, why? :) but it was not all the time that we weren't of the biggest < 1435202433 115127 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 turned red too. < 1435202443 774093 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My rules are here: https://rootsuprevolution.wordpress.com/ < 1435202446 487234 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree the very time it; but among the already amaze me, it would Haskell (this). < 1435202446 594097 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :among others < 1435202473 705766 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.haskell.org/ < 1435202478 898890 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your name just turned red for me < 1435202480 319840 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one tell him < 1435202491 839379 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that indicate something important? < 1435202496 684219 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red is usually important. < 1435202498 169517 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want him to figure out on his own < 1435202515 716062 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want ZombieCheney to figure out on his own < 1435202517 989046 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verification that I'm not a bot. < 1435202528 919308 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1435202540 166164 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured it out yet? < 1435202545 115265 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, < 1435202565 608512 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no. < 1435202569 786767 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? What's the pattern? < 1435202576 74586 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plenty of suppositions though, < 1435202588 460333 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me your best guess < 1435202622 899459 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there was a page break just there. < 1435202624 690674 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When does it happen, ZombieCheney? < 1435202629 199667 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that means something. < 1435202639 539048 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand what the page break means either < 1435202648 107634 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think it has anything to do with the red < 1435202659 193008 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I, I just started to learn coding, I'm flying blind here, < 1435202665 621955 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a coding thing < 1435202671 174260 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney < 1435202673 345540 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Zombie''Cheney < 1435202674 59410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney < 1435202690 138009 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There has to be code involved in turning stuff red, at some point in the process. < 1435202694 77696 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435202708 343611 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the thing it's designed to do isn't code related < 1435202719 158606 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The programming language i know best is "english". < 1435202721 89618 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep in mind that IRC isn't just for programmers < 1435202722 690283 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435202724 353519 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a good mind hacker. < 1435202726 513672 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1435202728 225663 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Q'u'o't'a't'i'o'n' 'm'a'r'k's' 'a'r'e' 'f'u'n' < 1435202728 902003 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quotation marks are fun < 1435202742 312150 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney < 1435202746 844496 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1435202753 137756 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did my name just turn red? < 1435202764 247344 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC isn't just for programmers? < 1435202764 844824 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 < 1435202768 86997 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why yeeeesssss, it did in fact. < 1435202778 19245 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren < 1435202778 124179 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did I say in that message? < 1435202820 434659 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not say oren < 1435202832 334042 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just a coincidence < 1435202844 684695 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ZombieCheney < 1435202848 213598 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said ZombieCheney < 1435202852 428160 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435202856 716194 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 < 1435202860 718488 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what is "ZomieCheney" < 1435202865 253729 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just turned red for me < 1435202876 337031 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I am ZombieCheney. < 1435202879 705455 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435202882 691476 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney is not me. < 1435202891 802308 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 < 1435202894 136391 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would it be significant for someone to say your name < 1435202896 210268 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red agian < 1435202897 797268 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*again < 1435202909 485067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: (I found them.) < 1435202932 996485 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, I see it now. Whenever someone says your name, it highlights it in red so that it's easy for you to pick out, < 1435202937 230069 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1435202948 266905 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the title of the tab alerts you too if you're tabbed out < 1435202950 624887 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is useful < 1435202978 862151 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab? < 1435202997 921984 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+\t < 1435203008 854830 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.46 oren and orin oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He’ll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. orin is oren’s evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line. • < 1435203034 60451 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren seems like a bot. < 1435203036 6956 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's sanothr thing < 1435203041 248173 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435203042 475966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c#/C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1435203050 209336 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is a bot < 1435203072 375932 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is every entry in the Collatz files a bot? < 1435203078 777922 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK < 1435203102 311833 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435203103 226650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c/C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1435203111 619386 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435203112 728616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :group/groups are just loops with the property of associativity < 1435203113 474399 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: I'm not a bot, just ahuman who is only partially paying attention to IRC < 1435203142 917776 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove it. Tell me something funny, < 1435203153 262306 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :,? < 1435203174 970358 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean .? < 1435203192 585135 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1435203201 427541 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-p < 1435203208 125866 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You bastard < 1435203214 551259 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha! < 1435203231 385370 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZombieCheney is a bastard who ends sentences with commas such that we think there's more coming < 1435203233 784766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zombiecheney': ZombieCheney is a bastard who ends sentences with commas such that we think there's more coming < 1435203235 762994 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: I bought some batteries, but they weren't included < 1435203245 434916 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435203251 734107 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ZombieCheney < 1435203254 147508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney is a bastard who ends sentences with commas such that we think there's more coming < 1435203263 652445 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS ETERNAL < 1435203294 78636 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of you in the red, you just failed my Turing test. 'learn everyone but ZombieCheney is a bot < 1435203309 753148 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A) It has to be a gravestone < 1435203317 95356 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn I am not a bot < 1435203318 115584 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B) It must come at the beginning of a line < 1435203319 774445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'i': I am not a bot < 1435203331 111244 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might've already been something there < 1435203337 482741 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always check before teaching < 1435203345 191802 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits i < 1435203347 9091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435203351 297443 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/i < 1435203353 190230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 shachaf < 1435203357 688170 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZombieCheney is neo < 1435203360 133216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zombiecheney': ZombieCheney is neo < 1435203372 156755 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1435203372 674244 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is ZombieCheney? < 1435203381 572014 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert wisdom/i < 1435203382 152242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision 'wisdom/i'! < 1435203384 918796 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is the One < 1435203393 713060 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ZombieCheney < 1435203394 349363 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn right, < 1435203406 628653 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say My Name: < 1435203406 834599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435203416 886125 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/zombiecheney < 1435203417 751542 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say it! < 1435203418 620406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney hppavilion1 < 1435203424 714926 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha! < 1435203431 92065 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dick Cheney < 1435203436 755873 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1435203437 515083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol stands for laughing out legends < 1435203442 844332 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my evil twin. < 1435203474 823679 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is going to go down in history, my robotic Friends. < 1435203482 425357 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1435203486 243603 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bot < 1435203487 39397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435203491 15364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elli < 1435203494 954528 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435203495 678115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ hppavilion1, < 1435203512 520667 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the only one! < 1435203522 189457 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/kyaa < 1435203522 863281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(≧∇≦)/ < 1435203543 814938 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ ZombieCheney, aka neo, aka zackjk < 1435203561 235341 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaaan < 1435203563 275375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン < 1435203581 162752 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ ZombieCheney, aka neo, aka zackjk < 1435203618 749790 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat script.py < 1435203619 398098 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :users = ['hppavilion1'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:' \ for x in users: \ print(x+', ') < 1435203623 224616 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo emoticons/*; cat emoticons/* < 1435203625 4739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emoticons/drowning emoticons/flipbird emoticons/gaaan emoticons/gaan emoticons/kyaa emoticons/shrug emoticons/useless \ lol \ 凸 \ ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン \ (°Д°) \ (≧∇≦)/ \ ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ オラオラオラ(三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 < 1435203667 406843 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1', 'Not ZombieCheney'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:' \ for x in users: \ print(x+', ')") > script.py < 1435203669 216863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435203675 774567 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn phi=e^i*t < 1435203676 36279 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435203678 204285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "script.py", line 1 \ users = ['hppavilion1', 'Not ZombieCheney'] \ print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:' \ for x in users: \ print(x+', ') \ ^ \ SyntaxError: unexpec < 1435203680 589470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'phi=e^i*t': phi=e^i*t < 1435203706 30980 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn phi=e^i*t is the last equation < 1435203708 866474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'phi=e^i*t': phi=e^i*t is the last equation < 1435203715 523200 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's so last about it? < 1435203717 634652 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1', 'Not ZombieCheney']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file:'"; echo "for x in users:"; echo " print(x+', ')") > script.py < 1435203719 585465 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435203725 537527 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python script.py < 1435203726 415898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ hppavilion1, \ Not ZombieCheney, < 1435203727 533187 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let there be light. < 1435203730 842945 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey... I wonder if better is to best as latter is to last. < 1435203770 582333 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric : These are the users who bothered to edit our file:\ zackjk < 1435203786 375020 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1435203791 278589 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric : These are the users who bothered to edit our file: \ all < 1435203807 107595 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo "users = ['hppavilion1', 'Not ZombieCheney']"; echo "print 'These are the users who bothered to edit our file (If you did it, you are hardcore):'"; echo "for x in users:"; echo " print(x+', ')") > script.py < 1435203809 399195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435203838 560693 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fuck yeah, ZombieCheney is hardcore! < 1435203840 772375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'fuck': Fuck yeah, ZombieCheney is hardcore! < 1435203864 382651 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435203873 693494 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the answer is pretty much. < 1435203874 182758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435203880 688050 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fuck < 1435203881 411303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435203921 972081 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot, bettra, betst. Læt, lætra, lætest. < 1435203932 430029 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fuck When a mommy and a daddy love each other _very_ much... < 1435203933 194973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'fuck': fuck When a mommy and a daddy love each other _very_ much... < 1435203935 267021 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn <ZombieCheney> wipes the floor with <oren_> < 1435203939 735332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '<zombiecheney>': <ZombieCheney> wipes the floor with <oren_> < 1435203940 79499 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435203942 913860 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435203959 969941 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435203961 697540 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435203968 262341 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1435203972 23724 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/flipbird < 1435203972 645793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: emoticons/flipbird : No such file or directory < 1435203974 328318 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435203975 973359 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435203981 806946 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, maybe the wisdom for "fuck" should be a Quanc Phuc Dong quote. < 1435203982 546513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a idea of Magic: the Gathering card: Return up to five target lands to their owner's hand, and then each player who returned any card to his hand in this way must draw that many cards. ;; Cannot be used while there is a creature, enchantment, artifact, or planeswalker on the stack. < 1435203986 892623 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme come up with some examples. < 1435203989 211952 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435203989 679945 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1435203989 733851 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435203991 71664 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Excess Flood < 1435203993 194318 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emoticons/ < 1435203993 984887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ useless < 1435204008 115657 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:21aa:dd9:5560:4709 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435204008 481766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why not make it a sorcery, rather than that weird stack restriction? < 1435204011 372374 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/flipbird < 1435204012 21067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​凸 < 1435204015 458132 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fuck you and wash the dishes. Wash the dishes and fuck you." < 1435204032 945715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because, you are still allowed to respond to sorceries, instants, and triggered and activated abilities. < 1435204034 223655 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn the wisdom for fuck is that we need not indulge in illusions. < 1435204038 204813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdom': the wisdom for fuck is that we need not indulge in illusions. < 1435204045 110851 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204046 887731 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204050 171011 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fuck all irregular verbs. Fuck seven irregular verbs." < 1435204056 521623 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1435204057 423562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1435204063 597972 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1435204071 5177 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always check if therer was something better first < 1435204081 522306 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ø =e^i*tau < 1435204085 395732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ø': ø =e^i*tau < 1435204092 626033 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revery < 1435204093 285852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: revery: not found < 1435204096 808464 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204098 597995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204112 91605 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn revery defeat < 1435204114 251220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'revery': revery defeat < 1435204115 925222 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/useless < 1435204116 273260 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1435204116 829353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​オラオラオラ(三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 < 1435204117 317316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1435204123 398640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but I'm not sure that allowing that is worth how much more complex it makes the card < 1435204148 769969 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn that is worth the complexity < 1435204150 173632 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435204152 844558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually today Wizards previewed a card (i.e. they'll be printing it soon) which has an "If it's your turn" clause but it's a sorcery < 1435204153 438463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'that': that is worth the complexity < 1435204185 304690 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204186 62288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204188 266903 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? that < 1435204189 125473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204195 383245 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435204202 173755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so, that "if" clause fail if something allowing to cast sorcery on opponent's turn is used, I suppose (there are many ways, including madness) < 1435204204 625700 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1435204207 416419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204209 836475 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 42. That’s it. That’s The Answer. But you never really understood what The Ultimate Question was, did you? So The Answer doesn’t make sense without it. If you knew what the The Ultimate Question was, you might understand why The Answer is 42, and if that makes sense to you, you are one enlightened dude, dude. Do you wanna know The Ultimate Question? Are you ready? Ok, DON’T PANIC: What do you get if you < 1435204215 911248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '42.': 42. That’s it. That’s The Answer. But you never really understood what The Ultimate Question was, did you? So The Answer doesn’t make sense without it. If you knew what the The Ultimate Question was, you might understand why The Answer is 42, and if that makes sense to you, you are one enlightened dude, dude. Do you wanna < 1435204222 456312 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at how subtle that is < 1435204233 765153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, most people think it's because the new card would otherwise form a broken combo with veldaken orrery < 1435204251 624288 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bangs his head against the desk < 1435204265 204032 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD < 1435204273 223448 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn send your money to 13uRC2sXE1wMq7QT1bjxmPJZbRFH4Cqmbu < 1435204275 194977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'send': send your money to 13uRC2sXE1wMq7QT1bjxmPJZbRFH4Cqmbu < 1435204287 951975 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is 'send'? < 1435204297 923596 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: Always always ALWAYS check if there's something before you teach wisdom something < 1435204301 182474 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's find out what 'send' is. < 1435204302 673645 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? send < 1435204303 471208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :send your money to 13uRC2sXE1wMq7QT1bjxmPJZbRFH4Cqmbu < 1435204307 746347 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's your answer. < 1435204307 800181 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204308 506945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204309 904305 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204310 496743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204318 466122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? send < 1435204319 577377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :send? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204321 836479 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is wisdom? < 1435204324 489359 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fuck < 1435204327 747992 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's `? < 1435204330 216393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah, ZombieCheney is hardcore! < 1435204330 319578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point oerjan is going to have to come in at some point and fix this < 1435204333 330534 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of < 1435204350 882990 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep reverting < 1435204360 663509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: it's a learndb; most channels which have one use their learndb to readily store facts about certain topics for future reference < 1435204362 876008 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 422 < 1435204363 739524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :422? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204366 190546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mycology < 1435204367 92373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1435204369 705824 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 42 < 1435204370 462800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204371 758701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know what else is effect of new card? < 1435204374 516548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that, that's one of the serious ones < 1435204377 482192 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/fuck < 1435204378 95979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah, ZombieCheney is hardcore! < 1435204381 851568 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'the fuck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯' > wisdom/fuck < 1435204383 933379 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435204385 248086 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 42. < 1435204386 184289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42. That’s it. That’s The Answer. But you never really understood what The Ultimate Question was, did you? So The Answer doesn’t make sense without it. If you knew what the The Ultimate Question was, you might understand why The Answer is 42, and if that makes sense to you, you are one enlightened dude, dude. Do you wanna know The Ultima < 1435204389 583619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly we use it as a repository for bad jokes though < 1435204402 254790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know a few new cards, it's spoiler season so Wizards are releasing a few every day < 1435204408 633386 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn 42 https://github.com/zackjk/The-Identity/blob/master/LICENSE < 1435204410 902410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '42': 42 https://github.com/zackjk/The-Identity/blob/master/LICENSE < 1435204417 480024 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so I'm reminded of a certain bit of wording on a card in a certain MTG-like game. < 1435204418 258384 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42? < 1435204428 856175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I take it that the certain MTG-like game is not actually MTG? < 1435204435 227930 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1435204436 992280 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was like this: "Discard a card. If you do, draw two cards." < 1435204453 70254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very MTG < 1435204454 796815 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first, it sounds weird. Why would you put an "if you do" on something that's mandatory? < 1435204502 199640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you don't, you don't get the two cards < 1435204530 120758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the M:tG equivalent card exists, although I forget what it's called; it's worded "As an additional cost to cast CARDNAME, discard a card. Draw two cards.") < 1435204530 658484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mov14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43285&oldid=43265 5* 03Ehird 5* (-37) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Keymaker|Keymaker]] ([[User talk:Keymaker|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Cluid Zhasulelm|Cluid Zhasulelm]] < 1435204535 344431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and costs 1R I think) < 1435204539 698720 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric : /win 20 < 1435204543 414558 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric : /fail 20 < 1435204549 157895 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTBlKRzNf74 < 1435204556 298167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mov14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43287&oldid=43285 5* 03Ehird 5* (+37) 10misclick -- sorry < 1435204559 832974 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: technically that answers the question. < 1435204571 956756 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh huh, he does liv. < 1435204573 625974 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*live < 1435204588 350061 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he just rage-quit IRC or something. < 1435204607 924208 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there were an MTG sorcery that just said "Discard a card, then draw two cards", you'd be able to abuse it by casting it while not having any cards in hand. < 1435204636 541942 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435204638 417266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat/qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435204639 67569 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, we all know that the best wording is the following: < 1435204666 565613 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Try: { Discard a card. Draw two cards. } Catch (unable to discard a card): { }" < 1435204671 19112 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Discard a card, then draw two cards < 1435204673 76064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'discard': Discard a card, then draw two cards < 1435204681 484728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204682 873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204688 177374 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jumps out a window < 1435204691 868876 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435204692 462938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435204696 999250 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you even listening to me, ZombieCheney? < 1435204697 964186 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fuck < 1435204698 764220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435204703 115894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney: You aren't supposed to make `learn command like that! < 1435204706 711950 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeppers < 1435204716 703836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please learn the proper way or not at all. < 1435204730 723749 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Agreed < 1435204742 181090 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn <zzo38> is not The One < 1435204745 134241 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '<zzo38>': <zzo38> is not The One < 1435204757 735229 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better < 1435204759 369236 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also < 1435204761 285489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop messing up the wisdom database. < 1435204768 784743 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* throws zzo38 out window < 1435204774 507444 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check if there's already something in that spot before teaching it < 1435204783 759999 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdom there is no wisdom < 1435204785 968309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdom': wisdom there is no wisdom < 1435204793 878922 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the /me command < 1435204798 180003 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1435204810 701545 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the one < 1435204823 90081 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flys down and saves zzo38 with superpoweryness < 1435204823 771814 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles ZombieCheney with the bugswtter ーー蟲蟲 < 1435204825 405025 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, this can all be reverted later if need be. If we remember. < 1435204833 50156 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is <hppavilion1> < 1435204839 616320 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435204846 410803 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'ーー蟲蟲' > emoticons/swatter < 1435204848 678183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435204852 614743 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck remembering, I can always come back. < 1435204856 530748 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means I am the one < 1435204861 465614 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize the <> arent part of the persons name? < 1435204877 187205 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By transference, sure, < 1435204890 663412 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: I don't think he does < 1435204893 450463 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realize I don't really care? < 1435204904 65444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly I am not "The One", but actually "Aaron Black". But please stop mixing up the files like that OK???????? < 1435204909 932049 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ban ZombieCheney < 1435204910 608038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ban: not found < 1435204922 696140 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up #esoteric whats happening < 1435204923 1310 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ban hppavilion1 < 1435204923 785832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ban: not found < 1435204925 508487 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has muted you < 1435204935 629766 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God < 1435204938 861617 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just muted him < 1435204939 392154 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha! another replicant vanquished. < 1435204953 402731 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing THAT'S out of the way < 1435204964 315352 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, can muted people still read your messages?? < 1435204967 850229 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZombieCheney is God < 1435204970 740414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zombiecheney': ZombieCheney is God < 1435204974 337858 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1435204978 122318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: if you mean /ignore, that's client-side < 1435204982 216597 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is God? < 1435204983 432035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: If you send them to the channel, then yes, of course < 1435204988 513007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode is still sending you the ignored messages, your client just doesn't print them < 1435204995 14196 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HISSSSSSSSSSSS < 1435205001 46845 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS TRYING TO TROLL HIM < 1435205014 119440 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZombieCheney lives under a bridge. < 1435205015 946666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zombiecheney': ZombieCheney lives under a bridge. < 1435205016 527666 :ZombieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PART :#esoteric < 1435205018 139189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I thought trolling wasn't allowed on Freenode < 1435205019 92907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other form of "Discard a card. If you do, draw two cards." can have something like my idea [ :discard :any; :success [ :draw 2 ] ] < 1435205024 849271 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go register the ZombieCheney username on Esolangs < 1435205035 976981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not allowed on Esolang either < 1435205046 440397 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435205054 353896 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is God? < 1435205062 832784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03ZombieCheney 5* 10New user account < 1435205074 968075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: why would you register someone else's username? < 1435205080 192911 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is neo? < 1435205082 861170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I can't fix it but it's a bunch of work I don't want to have to do < 1435205085 359806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't register someone else username < 1435205099 511235 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1435205103 647832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :God is.....there is no answer to this question. < 1435205116 24086 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is god, AMA < 1435205118 508097 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is zzo38? < 1435205122 940424 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1435205123 151927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am zzo38 < 1435205124 400707 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too late < 1435205133 302708 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just give him the password after I change it < 1435205133 766340 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the ban command? < 1435205135 602651 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he wants it < 1435205153 106504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: /ban, but it won't work unless you have some sort of status within the channel < 1435205161 268958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: The MODE command is used to ban people from a channel, but you can't unless you are an operator < 1435205163 649910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I can rename the account out of the way < 1435205167 781993 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :K, good to know. < 1435205173 711457 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lel < 1435205174 788500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lel: not found < 1435205176 633946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: OK, technically it's MODE, but almost all clients have /ban as a shortcut for it < 1435205186 940744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except yours) < 1435205192 483160 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435205192 733354 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1435205193 516925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol stands for laughing out legends < 1435205216 281120 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``````````````` < 1435205216 927297 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``````````````: not found < 1435205231 889943 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``````````````: not found < 1435205236 544198 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair < 1435205245 990420 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney has been a bit of a dick from my POV < 1435205246 871121 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to be. < 1435205258 44077 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good man < 1435205261 119319 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is, I hate that Meffer. < 1435205269 866753 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 < 1435205271 919268 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1, its obvious you are new to being trolled < 1435205284 393852 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love fridays. < 1435205288 370083 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not < 1435205293 392474 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just out of practice < 1435205306 878380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I prefer it when this channel is about esolangs rather than trolling < 1435205310 372541 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZomieCheney is ZombieCheney < 1435205313 905983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zomiecheney': ZomieCheney is ZombieCheney < 1435205327 674256 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is ZomieCheney? < 1435205328 397999 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1435205330 783910 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go back to that < 1435205331 350788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not coincidence that channel regulars (including me) sometimes disappear for months at a time < 1435205349 509806 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm brand new to this, just trying things out. < 1435205361 502653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only a few people troll here. < 1435205371 185386 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1435205384 280847 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So :≠ looks interesting < 1435205387 826358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: thanks < 1435205388 403703 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it was cooler thoguh < 1435205396 820690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make up a new kind < 1435205399 946405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how would you make it cooler? < 1435205401 802968 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1435205404 111654 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "Cooler' < 1435205412 390734 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hppavilion1 is ZombieCheney < 1435205414 273588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hppavilion1': hppavilion1 is ZombieCheney < 1435205418 694844 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just wasn't in line with my expectations < 1435205428 533072 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435205430 142632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435205433 338428 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously dude < 1435205437 991913 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop teaching it things < 1435205443 906225 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1435205445 452359 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without knowing < 1435205449 799712 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's something there < 1435205457 86982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: we can reset it all later < 1435205458 198413 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything there? < 1435205460 203756 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion1 < 1435205463 74018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed < 1435205464 389875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oerjan's normally the person who does complex bot resets < 1435205469 697809 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's from my very first day < 1435205481 930982 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has sentimental value somehow < 1435205483 452906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just program HackEgo to refuse to be commanded by *!*/gateway/web/* for a few days < 1435205484 699216 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't teach over it < 1435205491 339139 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is an actual person here? < 1435205502 433350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, sometimes < 1435205517 700576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to think of an appropriate answer to that but I like zzo38's < 1435205518 732428 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they also have a bot that signs in with that name? < 1435205530 805759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, myndzi is the human that's also a bot < 1435205536 449746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1435205536 639281 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1435205536 720104 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ < 1435205549 627388 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complicated, how do you keep track of all of it? < 1435205554 768295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :More properly I actually mean *!*@gateway/web/* < 1435205557 18971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a human and bot running on the same account with myndzi < 1435205565 808405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot tends to talk more though < 1435205593 545369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if a web user wants to play BF Joust, or test out esolang golf, or the like? < 1435205614 303238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, HackEgo's original purpose before it ended up getting overrun by welcome variants and wisdom and quotes < 1435205617 410527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then they have to either wait until the ban is removed or get their own IRC client < 1435205620 957033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, EgoBot does BF Joust, I think) < 1435205630 126793 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Joust? < 1435205631 405999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ais523_ plays BF Joust sometimes, and doesn't have an IRC client < 1435205636 711334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: [[e:BF Joust]] < 1435205638 441246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1435205641 513871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1435205650 733778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the most amazing esothings ever < 1435205663 914969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably spent weeks of my life playing it and enjoyed nearly all of it < 1435205687 610657 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a brainfuck. < 1435205700 8610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ais523_ doesn't have an address fitting that range; it is cloaked < 1435205707 782831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyways the ban should only be temporary < 1435205715 38958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh good point, ais523_ is indeed cloaked < 1435205715 440777 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ban? < 1435205722 202282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few days is sufficient. < 1435205724 243302 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435205735 543772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523__ isn't cloaked but I probably wouldn't try to play BF Joust from /there/ < 1435205746 403578 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What client would you guys reccommend? < 1435205751 60028 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to get a dedicated one < 1435205756 40111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A suggested ban programmed into HackEgo temporarily < 1435205765 37774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: what OS are you on? < 1435205765 406459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I don't know; see what one you like. < 1435205790 171314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote my own IRC client because I don't like the other ones. You can also write your own if you want to. < 1435205792 118168 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is wisdom stored? < 1435205804 605119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: In the HackEgo < 1435205812 982661 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Windows 8 < 1435205814 205052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can view all of the files from the webpage too though < 1435205820 698399 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1435205821 389531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ random_elli < 1435205822 898218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: ugh, I was hoping you wouldn't say Windows :-( < 1435205831 192046 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate W8 < 1435205835 828241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most popular IRC client for Windows is mIRC but everyone else hates mIRC users < 1435205848 78107 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat error.log < 1435205852 335124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I 5053 pci_id: con ing! \ I 4681 ehci 0xf43d000:15: regista14: [0xbffff 0xfed nosabled 00-02] Zonseres: brips byted nored) \ W 3654 e8] PGTT ASF! 00f00000003.2: 0x000 - 0000: 00009dbfffec00000: Pround/f1743colled \ I 4076 verse.' \ I 4764 He trusts to you to set them free, \ I 858 your pocket?' he went on, turning to Alice. \ I 898 would be offende < 1435205862 36058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are a couple of good lesser-known ones but don't know what they are < 1435205871 870537 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude what are you doing with #RURNM < 1435205873 549681 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435205874 557655 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ponies < 1435205893 333607 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clop clop < 1435205895 345217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the program I wrote too to see if you prefer this one (although, most people don't) < 1435205910 43268 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it command line? < 1435205912 455575 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, AWESOME < 1435205914 367600 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which program did you write? < 1435205919 937137 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC client < 1435205931 545704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a IRC client < 1435205937 285746 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clopclopclopclop < 1435205945 600154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38's IRC client is basically raw IRC with syntax highlighting and a shortcut to send PRIVMSG < 1435205947 665485 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it on GitHub? < 1435205951 925053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it in PHP because I don't know how to make internet software in C < 1435205960 549469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if zzo38 had a github account < 1435205962 185309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is not in GitHub, you have to download the .zip file < 1435205964 853566 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435205974 902002 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435206000 752613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one but only for work, my personal stuff is stored elsewhere (previously gitorious, now in a mix of places) < 1435206006 768161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. C-INTERCAL is on esr's server) < 1435206033 194431 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+b EgoBot < 1435206067 528624 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 < 1435206073 132340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I ban EgoBot? < 1435206089 72136 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just testing commands, I'm new at this. < 1435206118 400838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just wrote "+b EgoBot" in the channel < 1435206124 636565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC doesn't use in-band commands (apart from CTCPs) < 1435206130 487059 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I wasn't sure what would happen. < 1435206137 173461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sending to a channel is the PRIVMSG command internally, banning is MODE < 1435206145 563614 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my first day using IRC < 1435206147 921594 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+b hppavilion1 < 1435206153 725866 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435206164 908649 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ZombieChenie is a noob < 1435206166 715223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zombiechenie': ZombieChenie is a noob < 1435206175 679531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: Well, then you must learn. You can find document in various document including the RFC document. < 1435206182 716933 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1435206188 428126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the full command to ban EgoBot would be "MODE #esoteric :+b EgoBot", which in most clients would be written as "/quote MODE #esoteric :+b EgoBot" (or "/ban EgoBot" for short) < 1435206196 226214 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU UST READ THE RFC TO BE EVEN A NOOB AT IRC < 1435206211 448576 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Request for comments? < 1435206216 713800 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1435206223 970291 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rabid Feral Cat < 1435206234 522066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also see documentation for your client, if applicable) < 1435206242 85420 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing I got my rabies shot. < 1435206250 937036 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mutated strain < 1435206267 194245 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutants--- bad news < 1435206289 978187 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MODE #esoteric :+b ZomieCheney < 1435206317 809744 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you ban yourself? < 1435206323 47510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you are an operator < 1435206329 361814 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a rickroll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71R2jE8W2Ag < 1435206338 922844 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who decides who is an operator? Other operators? < 1435206342 566890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only operators can ban people (including themself, I believe). < 1435206347 861033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: Yes. < 1435206351 939523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: there are a number of rules < 1435206352 145276 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1435206364 272933 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rules < 1435206366 132693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rules: not found < 1435206370 566827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one rule is that an operator can temporarily make anyone else into an operator, but this doesn't explain how things get started < 1435206383 422030 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They get started when the channel is created < 1435206388 528302 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What explains how things get started? < 1435206396 59736 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh < 1435206398 76839 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. When a channel is created the person who joined the channel first is the op. < 1435206401 70199 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first person to join is Grand Admin God < 1435206405 263283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another rule is that if a channel is empty, then if a person joins it (becoming the only member), they're an operator until they relinquish it < 1435206413 77812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are zero operators here right now < 1435206420 897944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you JOIN a channel that is not registered and has nobody in it, then the channel is created and you are operator for that channel. < 1435206422 629063 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Channels are registered < 1435206428 532339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what happens is that there's a second list for people who can become operators at will < 1435206438 890780 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, will anyone be an operator here again? < 1435206443 887516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a separate set of access permissions (which can originally be set by the person who registers the channel) < 1435206444 61017 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this free irc lessons < 1435206447 751774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can make yourself not a operator too, if you wish, but then it is reset when everyone leaves the channel) < 1435206448 755401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: why not? < 1435206453 286610 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody throw a pie < 1435206459 520553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a pie < 1435206461 186457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: well, if there were no operators here, then nobody could stop trolling, and that'd be a shame < 1435206463 795052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd better correct it < 1435206465 487226 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 > 1435206465 576491 NAMES :#esoteric < 1435206465 738443 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney: Yes, the server's got a list of people it will make an op when asked. < 1435206468 970194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there's an operator her enow < 1435206470 560726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*here now < 1435206472 59276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 > 1435206472 67614 NAMES :#esoteric < 1435206483 9160 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :π < 1435206491 129464 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooops, no more op. < 1435206495 662145 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to troll! < 1435206517 209805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode convention is that you hide your op status < 1435206517 915950 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OP's dead, long live op < 1435206522 785655 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ A highly relevant URL. < 1435206531 529008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're actively trying to speak "as an op" to tell people to behave themselves, or need to do an op action < 1435206531 734688 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clicking it < 1435206548 798959 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zvideos.com < 1435206557 553043 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Z < 1435206564 100887 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hardcore porn; < 1435206573 142203 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you're wondering < 1435206581 905652 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better < 1435206583 691353 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link < 1435206585 779796 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not zvideos < 1435206611 833776 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never gonna give you up! < 1435206633 87180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like to watch videos on computer, and I generally prefer the text. (I also don't like pornography, whether video or still, whether computer or TV.) < 1435206644 485743 :ZomieCheney!617b95a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.123.149.168 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435206651 788127 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOHOO < 1435206676 286236 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about textual porn? < 1435206706 13284 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1435206721 929629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not interested much < 1435206738 991565 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1435206739 866671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I hate telling people to be more ontopic, mostly because it doesn't work < 1435206748 656273 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right right < 1435206753 572752 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Context? < 1435206757 568325 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go make a sex-based esolang < 1435206766 478375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: bad attempts at trolling < 1435206771 452601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that have been going on in this channel for a while now < 1435206778 793707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, if you have something to make, fine < 1435206780 707085 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :OIC. < 1435206792 801621 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm half-kidding < 1435206800 38821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's fine too < 1435206835 804323 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, every porno is a program < 1435206887 820931 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of image-based languages < 1435206957 466392 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I keep this tab open I'll never get anything done < 1435206960 592742 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to leave < 1435206961 559306 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai < 1435206966 599903 :hppavilion1!4580231e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.128.35.30 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435206975 788941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly not a very good program though, and anyways is there any image-based esolang for movies, or only still pictures? < 1435206990 820040 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435206990 923103 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435207002 904235 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d languages! < 1435207006 15242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually think we have a video-based esolang yet < 1435207006 223089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even add more dimensions and make it six-dimensional, to make it even more confusing. < 1435207014 524352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, given the existence of compression artifacts < 1435207025 96248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could make for quite an interesting programming challenge if we had a max bitrate < 1435207040 967103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then make some. Yes, I like that idea too < 1435207041 69960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: past a certain point, extra dimensions don't really add confusion < 1435207055 158334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, I am just saying anyways. < 1435207391 82896 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do yous alls know about games similar to the creatures franchise < 1435207446 473788 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435207452 15646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about it much < 1435207463 657809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo knows a lot about it. < 1435208903 259973 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: getting to reading about OCP < 1435208913 747169 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a function call, what is "the" object? < 1435208919 962373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OCP = ? < 1435209059 147421 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :object cooriented programming < 1435209068 479161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1435209080 368851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no direct function calls in TCTOE < 1435209093 138869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do instead is, you set a property (technically, a set key) on something < 1435209101 335785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a trigger that triggers on that starts running as a result < 1435209134 91550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that you set the property on is your "[this]" object, which might be an existing object, or might be something that you created for the purpose of triggering the trigger and otherwise meaningless < 1435209159 712951 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1435209217 674759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{revery,that,42.,send,42,discard,<zzo38>,ZombieCheney,ZomieCheney,ZombieChenie} < 1435209220 67809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: zzo38: No such file or directory < 1435209236 162770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and normally you're scope-setting it ("scope methodname { [object].methodname := +; }", or "[object].methodname!" for short) < 1435209239 561204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{revery,that,42.,send,42,discard,'<zzo38>',ZombieCheney,ZomieCheney,ZombieChenie} < 1435209242 211547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/ZombieCheney': No such file or directory \ rm: cannot remove `wisdom/ZomieCheney': No such file or directory \ rm: cannot remove `wisdom/ZombieChenie': No such file or directory < 1435209274 18530 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooooo you erase him from history < 1435209283 308248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet hth < 1435209361 299524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{fuck,'<ZombieCheney>'} < 1435209363 431614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/<ZombieCheney>': No such file or directory < 1435209367 755410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this was a lot of vandalism < 1435209415 343898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1435209458 326809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an easy way to revert individual files? < 1435209480 286712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/phi=e^i*t < 1435209481 898605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435209594 406626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for w in wisdom i hppavilion1; do hg cat -r 5714 wisdom/"$w" > wisdom/"$w"; done < 1435209599 124383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435209651 347652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1435209674 413355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one was already reverted. < 1435209901 225904 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435209901 583298 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435211724 975890 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435212072 255456 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435212499 159990 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435215792 351113 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435216504 377555 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1435216512 90830 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any good esolangs lately? < 1435216522 621797 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything novel or weird < 1435216584 653266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_: there's an unfinished one I'm working on which is pretty weird < 1435216592 29675 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tell me more :) < 1435216593 440493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I posted the notes for it earlier < 1435216637 678048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> bearing in mind unfinished, everything is subject to change, etc.: http://sprunge.us/VjPi < 1435216639 125465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1435216790 998885 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its weird seeing people's names written in non-ascii chars < 1435216798 873544 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like oerjans getting written as ørjan < 1435216813 759561 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt even recognize it at first < 1435216815 646398 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.codes/ < 1435216824 77926 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reading < 1435216906 291335 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no longer reading. this seems like an actually interesting paradigm, so ill have to look in depth tomorrow < 1435216924 30152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put so much effort into getting my esolangs right < 1435216933 498002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that by the time they're finished, they've been vaporware for years < 1435216960 156930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either that or they end up like Snowflake, where people conclude that they're interesting but nobody but me can follow what's going on and nobody wants to put in the effort to impl them) < 1435219470 778037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i approve. i think it looks nice. if you can write the compiler, i would attempt to use it. (i can't see how one would go about adding IO extensions...my guess is that would depend on compiler implementation as well?) < 1435219506 918922 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also...not immediately obvious how arithmetic would work. would need a better mental grasp of the thing first. < 1435219575 388020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Plans for arithmetic (as a library) but haven't checked that they work yet < 1435219607 915293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly involving searching for existing numbers so that only one of each integer exists, then you take references to it < 1435219617 247395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meaning that integers can meaningfully be compared on) < 1435219704 618254 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make integers mutable < 1435219792 238298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: well, they will be as a side-effect of the implementation, but mutating them wouldn't really have the results you might or might not want < 1435219799 274152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd only affect existing uses of the integer < 1435219810 825336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new integer would be created fresh if you produced it via calculation result < 1435221580 629246 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435221602 501188 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435222155 181166 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435222309 176676 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This language sounds like it can be modelled with a bunch of broadcast channels < 1435222334 517838 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also concurrently providing a concurrent generalisation) < 1435223583 55810 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435223745 840424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(either that or they end up like Snowflake, where people conclude that they're interesting but [...] nobody wants to put in the effort to impl them)" -- or more like My Unreliable Past which is interesting as a theoretical model but not really worth to implement or program in < 1435223769 914994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Unreliable Past is esolangs-as-art, rather than esolangs-as-programming < 1435223835 350779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of my esolang enthusiasm got drowned when Wikiplia, a somewhat nice esolang that was practically usable with some inconveniences, died because tom7 brought down the only known copy of the implementation. < 1435223860 453836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should try to make something like that. < 1435223911 260894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03MattTheGeek 5* 10New user account < 1435223940 561064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07APLBAONWSJAS14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43288&oldid=43004 5* 03MattTheGeek 5* (+0) 10Corrected "am" to "an" < 1435223944 138220 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435224022 603300 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1435224083 141981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wikiplia14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43289&oldid=20358 5* 03B jonas 5* (+292) 10 < 1435224160 442908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that new account is really heartwarming to me < 1435224169 415953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who saw a typo, and decided to make an account just to fix it < 1435225422 387115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1435225430 159240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's impossible < 1435225455 870038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435225505 192760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble#The_universe_goes_beyond_the_Milky_Way_galaxy says Edwin Hubble could identify single cepheid variable stars outside the Milky Way with a telescope in 1919 < 1435225511 358685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, in 1923 < 1435225528 480419 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like impossible because even the nearest galaxy is too far for that? < 1435225534 963871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1923? < 1435225540 318188 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't have that kind of technology back then < 1435225577 269008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: might be a different definition of "milky way" < 1435225595 30459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also refer to the part of the sky that's inside the plane of our galaxy < 1435225607 993678 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, definitely refers to other galaxies < 1435225609 285992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look out of the plane of the galaxy, you can still see some stars which are part of the galaxy itself < 1435225615 6049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it isn't infinitely thin < 1435225636 753490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the plane of the galaxy is visible as one continuous object, and has the name "milky way" from its appearance) < 1435225641 526632 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have been imprecise, but it's definitely about other galaxies < 1435226522 96401 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Wikiplia seems to still exist, just renamed to PyPedia http://www.pypedia.com/index.php/Main_Page < 1435226587 898864 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless WikiPL is actually a different thing, the history of the esolangs article is confusing) < 1435226673 26112 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah apparently it is a different thing, reading the diffs clarified. < 1435226682 119957 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Disregard, it's not the same after all < 1435227148 219569 :S1!~S1@wj0601.dip.tu-dresden.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435227963 465912 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435228040 852901 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Classical Cepheids are Population I variable stars which are 4–20 times more massive than the Sun, and up to 100,000 times more luminous." < 1435228048 73378 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume those are easier to spot with a telescope < 1435228199 496438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435228616 155162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tip, people, if you want me to #¤%¤"& clean up stuff, is _not_ to do other things afterwards. because the only thing that's actually easy is to revert the entire database to a specific revision. hth. < 1435228636 853528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to choose which revision... < 1435228651 892994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ in HackEgo < 1435228685 180635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it would also help if you stopped using `revert *without* a revision number for major cleanup. it is far too hard to follow. < 1435228728 589462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually the reason I called you in was that people had made so many incorrect cleanup attempts that I realised it was all too hard for me to follow < 1435228740 42987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait there's that idiotic `revert bug which means it's not easy at all to undelete file creations... < 1435228743 850885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it. < 1435228767 558127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please, if people do that, kick them a bit twh < 1435228802 61324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was loudly hinting that perhaps people should be behaving more sensibly < 1435228806 199274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess maybe shachaf _did_ a fairly good job at the end. < 1435228806 623406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm too timid to use op powers < 1435228815 325368 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1435228815 333943 NAMES :#esoteric < 1435228829 480468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric ais523 :Learn to use your op powers! < 1435228834 198708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1435228834 206229 NAMES :#esoteric < 1435228850 626789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles worriedly if he went too far < 1435228922 330263 :S1!~S1@wj0601.dip.tu-dresden.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435228965 39496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i haven't read it all but i recall zzo38 suggesting making HackEgo ignore the guy. afaik that's not actually possible for anyone other than fizzie and Gregor/Guest62171 to do, and we've been waiting for any of them to de-idle for a week... < 1435228986 409009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think there already is an ignore list and one person is on it) < 1435229055 769098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, pretty much exactly a week < 1435229089 634239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Guest62171's 4 days doesn't count because that was a pingout) < 1435229249 17114 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. I'm beginning to strongly suspect that fizzie's on vacation. < 1435229253 245880 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1435229253 299844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett said 7h 36m 32s ago: implement Al Dente twbh hth < 1435229268 787542 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. twbh? < 1435229285 207025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. we are doomed. DOOMED. < 1435229335 562271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot has left, ais523's been whistledly kicked, Guest62171 is completely inert and I haven't had breakfast yet. < 1435229340 716633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apocalyptic! < 1435229570 685606 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You eat breakfast? < 1435229597 716598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION munches some mackerel in tomato sauce < 1435229640 419947 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman_. today it's toasts with baba ghanoush. (gannouj?) < 1435229994 146333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm pretty sure "that would be helpful" < 1435230034 725372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest62171 is pretty much inert by default, though. < 1435230698 340480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? htmarriagel < 1435230711 359697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTMarriageL I now pronounce you Markup Language and StyleSheet Language < 1435230742 863801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/htmarriagel < 1435230745 369506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435230759 242351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just doesn't fit the format < 1435230787 705346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fixing it would lose the caps < 1435230939 801859 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1435230939 936667 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1435230940 3071 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c /|  /^\|   |    /|  c.c /`\    |    /| | |\ c.c /| < 1435230940 454583 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /`\              (_|¯'\ < 1435230941 553325 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| |_)                 |_) < 1435230997 422007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ found the last bug. oh wait... | fungot withdrawal is getting severe - we may not survive this. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1435231120 847644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdh. < 1435231466 868585 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DESSICATED CHICKEN < 1435231894 979172 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1435231911 896243 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435232318 975692 :S1!~S1@wj0601.dip.tu-dresden.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435232333 412007 :S1!~S1@wj0601.dip.tu-dresden.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1435232877 225509 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435233146 444114 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435233245 11843 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435233456 196353 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435234541 398280 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435235061 586966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf <shachaf> oerjan: i thought the internationale united the human race <-- and it would have worked, if not for those pesky Americans hth < 1435235061 678198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435235065 349782 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435235197 914079 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435236008 128702 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435236489 389208 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435236525 186266 :husanu1!~husanux4@91.199.104.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435236604 467010 :husanu1!~husanux4@91.199.104.6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435236884 961021 :husanu1!~husanux2@91.199.104.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435236984 173775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1435236984 266135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1435237117 662182 :husanu1!~husanux2@91.199.104.6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435237850 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JOIN :#esoteric < 1435240058 132058 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435240706 523669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i < 1435240729 383699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love monoids < 1435240955 118786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fuck < 1435240955 797914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435240964 615325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat fuck < 1435240965 580511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck: no such file in rev 5eb460d80a68 < 1435240972 647629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat wisdom/fuck < 1435240973 605428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/fuck: no such file in rev 5eb460d80a68 < 1435240980 483475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1435241003 218011 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fuck < 1435241003 947459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :175) <ais523> I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck <ais523> that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi \ 220) <oerjan> <Gregor> oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think <Gregor> oerjan: What - the - fuck \ 238) <oklopol> okay see in m < 1435241247 954109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm on reading the logs, it seems like most of the attempts to `revert file creations worked. < 1435241253 977744 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435241255 740775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently. < 1435241630 562128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf Good cleaning up job tdh < 1435241630 615845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435241658 847905 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1435241677 115493 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435242126 198992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435242129 111367 :hilquias`!~user@187.113.75.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435242231 285727 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435242326 96790 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nqdhrilvsmctgwdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1435243271 909791 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435243648 768084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435244281 979902 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1435245130 47969 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435245314 32786 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435245341 815832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1435245344 60407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea < 1435245363 258105 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1435245373 555701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how DOS (and windows cmd inheriting from it) has some built-in aliases: MD = MKDIR; CD = CHDIR; DEL = ERASE right? < 1435245385 992866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let's make a variant shell where REMOVE and REM are also aliases of DEL < 1435245474 614788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEL already takes any number of filenames, and it will just ignore nonexistant files < 1435245477 665233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1435245494 445868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, some of the reverts didn't work < 1435245528 497910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-thud < 1435245528 600665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 54m 27s ago: <shachaf> oerjan: i thought the internationale united the human race <-- and it would have worked, if not for those pesky Americans hth < 1435245528 655849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1h 4m 58s ago: Good cleaning up job tdh < 1435245742 54908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, isn't REM normally a comment? < 1435245747 515713 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEL /S /R C: < 1435245751 892407 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :REM is a comment < 1435245762 920968 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1435245768 886734 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEL /A /S /R probably even < 1435245802 733526 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1435245810 689676 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: exactly < 1435245846 454695 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEL C:\ /f /s /q < 1435245874 693186 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :/f for read-only files, /s for recursive and /q for no-fucking-prompt < 1435245903 459551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I invoke ImageMagick as identify --vers why does it think "--vers" is a filename for a non-existant file rather than a non-existant switch? < 1435245939 186304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do that for single-hyphen options (ImageMagick normally uses only long options with single hyphen) < 1435246050 617590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, you're not even here < 1435247465 680075 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wai wai wait-- the imagemagick programs are just the same program inoked under a different name? < 1435247562 427206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait++ < 1435247810 381168 :hppavilion1!a6890c34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435248176 759255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh argh < 1435248192 348222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: no, they're approximately seven different programs < 1435248242 360843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: they're not links or anything, they're different small executables containing a main function and a link to a shared library basically < 1435248284 527286 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash doesn't like it if you type shopt -s extglob; and use extglobs right in the same line. the exglobs are parsed only starting from the next line. < 1435248288 959372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid non-lazy parser < 1435248789 547293 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@area wait < 1435248789 650251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: karma free arr < 1435248801 914966 :hppavilion1!a6890c34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.52 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello peoples < 1435248803 805806 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@warm wait < 1435248803 908236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yarr part karma arr < 1435248825 262055 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@magma wait < 1435248825 364919 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait has a karma of -5 < 1435249068 313029 :hppavilion1!a6890c34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.52 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435249435 29580 :password2_!~password@197.77.63.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435249522 897208 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435250582 565860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435250748 877547 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435250846 263216 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435250847 456206 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1435250998 855990 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1435252367 932633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cod14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43290 5* 03Phase 5* (+687) 10Create cod page < 1435252418 251183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cod14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43291&oldid=43290 5* 03Phase 5* (+4) 10Fix links in cod < 1435253194 585987 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435254212 652708 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435254355 453835 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny how on an IRC like this, saying you're writing a programming language is no big deal < 1435254412 905026 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :) < 1435254466 467110 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435254474 257320 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1435254503 31033 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What may be interesting is that I'm writing a python program for a new data structure I need < 1435254506 814469 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about a programming language with required typing where you have to annotate the type of each expression before the expression itself, and this wouldnt help overloading or anything its just required because the compiler is pedantic < 1435254521 167530 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be the output of a lexer for a new programming language I'm writing < 1435254540 452845 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iteresting < 1435254549 758660 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interesting < 1435254562 51384 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 would look like [int]1, 1+1 would be [int][(int, int) -> int][int]1 + [int]1 < 1435254566 128428 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435254577 643308 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that'd be annoying 0.o < 1435254590 328881 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :} < 1435254591 44853 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good think K&R weren't that lazy < 1435254625 620086 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O0 < 1435254628 22227 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goal is quadruple the amount of code you have to write and make refactoring impossible < 1435254636 940052 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome! < 1435254637 711213 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Creating job security) < 1435254651 199221 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that in the future, it will be the manager's programming language of choice :P < 1435254678 70128 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you had to annotate the type expected as output from an operator? < 1435254687 476650 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435254688 800563 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do < 1435254690 292467 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435254698 54318 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1435254709 700495 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it may require a [void] if that int isnt used < 1435254715 371520 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1435254721 467103 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be fun to write :P < 1435254732 713192 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a language that's actually useful for somethign < 1435254739 658370 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something < 1435254746 705666 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too (i hope) < 1435254754 422410 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435254764 160488 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on a smalltalk without inheritance < 1435254769 619324 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1435254790 149284 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is Declarative and based on that new data structure I had to implement < 1435254793 695702 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Peano < 1435254814 296973 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :What data structure < 1435254870 766190 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ordered Associative Array < 1435254933 777578 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically a map with a concept of Order < 1435255014 716970 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435255095 7664 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can reference a value by a key or a key by an integer < 1435255100 243173 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only downside is that values can't be keys < 1435255101 798036 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could be a problem, now that I think about it < 1435255103 783179 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, values can't be keys? < 1435255106 410754 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why'd I say that? < 1435255116 782770 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I meant values can't be numbers, as numbers are used for indices < 1435255215 387423 :husanu3!~husanu3@5-12-36-106.residential.rdsnet.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1435255250 441040 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435255368 155346 :hppavilion1!a6aa0014@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.170.0.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435255622 960937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: < 1435255633 111088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:23:10 +0200 Taneb I've got a brilliant esolang < 1435255639 916156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:23:14 +0200 Taneb I just need a name < 1435255649 349085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:24:41 +0200 ion taneb: Real Fast Nora’s Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1435255655 526958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23 22:25:10 +0200 Taneb I'm actually going to use that name < 1435255922 410079 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1435255927 251923 :husanu3!~husanu3@5-12-36-106.residential.rdsnet.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435255959 36526 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1435256734 737892 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nqdhrilvsmctgwdd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435257512 840506 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice imo < 1435257585 842817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435257593 266479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips/MIPS Is Popular in Schools. < 1435257595 84178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435257595 666693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1435257596 932104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise/Uninstalling software installed by the Wise Installation Wizard is unwise. It's neither clockwise nor counterclockwise nor otherwise. < 1435257597 290230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh! that's how he's got that name? I never knew < 1435257627 269901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435257628 130519 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code/[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078... < 1435257636 605387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, a spam bot created that wiki page. < 1435257659 376381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But deciding to use it was a good decision on everyone's part. < 1435257854 104309 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1435257909 356880 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435257926 709866 :hilquias`!~user@187.113.75.27 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435257952 106325 :password2_!~password@197.77.63.255 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435258051 549696 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435258051 904424 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow < 1435258405 161563 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits code < 1435258411 153010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435258425 328033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/code < 1435258429 820939 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett int-e < 1435258430 942719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait, a spam bot that creates pages with actual good names? < 1435258433 29167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1435258436 984133 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you didn't ban it fast < 1435258586 527920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a movie called Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster < 1435258598 622099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the spam bot was advertising a real fast download of that movie. < 1435258616 513943 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435258627 543725 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435258726 649424 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435258730 405650 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1435258810 516847 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435259032 534595 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e NICK :TieSoul < 1435261114 584747 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435262210 331951 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435262305 210966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262316 467990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cow/A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. < 1435262319 472523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262320 376598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaturing/This wisdom entry was crushed by a falling anvil. < 1435262397 840748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262398 692398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :croissont supplier/See misspellings of croissant < 1435262460 742050 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435262525 358969 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435262632 549080 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435262651 290575 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1435262652 34627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435262665 58737 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1435262665 684868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435262675 696475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262676 787289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom____________________hoover/<span accent="British">Your soundcard works perfectly.</span> < 1435262694 292593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262695 145871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :willkommen/Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) < 1435262698 999048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435262699 886239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey/Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them into conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining, and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1435262875 427661 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435263158 573066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? SQL < 1435263159 268159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435263415 695903 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should really come up with the next SQL. < 1435263432 721319 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Haskell, except a database query language instead of a programming language". < 1435263468 942553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL is a real programming language. But it is a database query language < 1435263518 8765 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1435263518 752517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1435263526 64730 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey what < 1435263527 912813 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1435263528 685188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1435263531 872514 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1435263541 731609 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love wisdom/monoids. < 1435263562 34255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SQL is mostly fine as it is, although there are a few things missing that should have < 1435263748 762390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as: CREATE FUNCTION name(args) AS expression; CREATE FUNCTION name(args) ACCUMULATING(vars) AS expression; CREATE FUNCTION name(args) ACCUMULATING INTO table AS expression; TRY ... CATCH ... END; FOREVER statement; and trigger-index support (where there is an index of triggers attached to a view) < 1435263809 489582 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about CREATE BFFUNCTION? < 1435263836 468304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need < 1435264021 917764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435264022 880936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boxmodel/boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1435264092 87636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was play Dungeons&Dragons game, getting past the dragon wasn't too difficult, as they didn't intend to fight me but only to ask us some riddles. < 1435264364 120822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which Dungeons&Dragons game? as in, what console and approximate year of release/ < 1435264402 923560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No console, it is played by paper < 1435264418 469287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean actual Dungeons&Dragons < 1435264430 409467 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1435264445 608314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think it was that because you mentioned "the dragon" < 1435264454 640856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1435264455 519682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1435264459 535685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is that one < 1435264494 293508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's just that "the dragon" about D&D in general doesn't have much context, if it's about a particular game it can < 1435264639 262649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I found a large city where only human is allowed, no dwarf, elf (including drow), troll, otyugh, beholder, etc is allowed. A wizard made up our entire aprty invisible except two soldier. I try to think of what to do next, since this invisibility spell can expire, doesn't work in anti-magic field, and doesn't work if you attack either. < 1435264658 922481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, would it make sense to add a dwim switch to ls (the unix utility) that changes behavior depending on whether the filenames given in command line end with a slash or not: if there's no trailing slash, the files are listed as with the -d switch, but if there's a trailing slash their contents are listed as without -d. < 1435264697 482926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes it might, actually < 1435264724 756286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is a precompiled .pdf available? < 1435264732 695028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, only DVI and source < 1435264737 620699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.pdf is more convenient for me than .dvi because my browser can open it directly. < 1435264741 763352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works especially in bash where the default (but changeable) is to put a trailing slash when you tab-expand a directory < 1435264744 461209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Make a PDF yourself if you want one) < 1435264748 379549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: should I make a pdf? < 1435264759 961518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Sure, if it's up to date. < 1435264777 887816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be more convenient if you generated one. < 1435264783 804382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'd download the tex source now and pdftex it < 1435264789 59933 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: So you can then alias ls='ls --dwim' ? < 1435264799 732736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or pdflatex or whatever it wants) < 1435264811 396645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also shell should be change so that if you have wildcard that matches file with - at the front then it also adds the path (such as ./ if it is) < 1435264822 272758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: dunno, I'd look at what all the existing options are called before I decide on a name < 1435264833 70142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: exactly < 1435264836 29271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like long options much though < 1435264847 691404 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, add a ./ prefix? < 1435264854 791965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You can generated a PDF file with pdfTeX < 1435264865 546519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a kludge for that in old versions, but no, I wouldn't like to change wildcards to always do that < 1435264881 585441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rather just add a double hyphen or ./ manually when needed < 1435264958 565180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are correct; better can be to set an environment variable where the filename starts, maybe < 1435264960 146108 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the ./ prefix can sometimes be inconvenient (or break things) because many programs use the filename in ways other than opening it < 1435264971 834199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, setting an environment variable was the old kludge < 1435265033 3419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't have pdfTeX, and I do not guarantee it works in anything other than the One True TeX. (You can still use an external DVI->PDF converter if pdfTeX doesn't work, but I don't have that) < 1435265097 267403 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: pdftex almost always works if One True TeX works. and in my experience, it works better than converting dvi to pdf or converting postscript to pdf, but this isn't absolute. < 1435265110 787483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use pdftex (or pdflatex mostly) a lot < 1435265177 78007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it does work, you are free to do so. If not, well, you are at least free to try. < 1435265212 334858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which level of detail do you want? max? < 1435265221 240406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1435265249 192937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that I'd read it. < 1435265254 237082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a PDF would certainly be convenient. < 1435265294 608248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DVI is compiled at detail level 5, although you can specify a lower one if you don't want that. Detail level 6 is probably too much unless you want to analyze the character progressions in much detail. < 1435265322 2451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/zzo38-dnd-level20.pdf.gz < 1435265336 679024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.gz? < 1435265340 558455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's detail 6 < 1435265340 612197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435265349 157952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it's slightly smaller that way < 1435265359 268491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you probably have a gzip decompressor < 1435265386 175011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pdftex doesn't generate a very compressed pdf alone < 1435265389 754180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but my browser will show a PDF file in a tab directly if it's sent as application/pdf. < 1435265413 328859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: doesn't it show a gzip-compressed one? some pdf/ps viewers do that automatically < 1435265428 731618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems not. < 1435265433 687286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be reading this right now anyway. < 1435265448 46147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably I'm not sending application/pdf as the header for it < 1435266169 346028 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435266207 957848 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435266388 648633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266393 206919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xyzzy/Nothing happens. < 1435266394 774625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266395 558799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ants/thants < 1435266395 877881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266396 683825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nak/ < 1435266399 67946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266399 955954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phở/Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1435266403 568065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266404 562309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodle/Noooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1435266525 729414 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What *should* be happening (of course) is it should be applicaton/pdf with Content-encoding: gzip. < 1435266533 860276 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for extra fun, Transfer-encoding: gzip. < 1435266536 724874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sure. < 1435266542 150895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't really care about the encoding. < 1435266545 783849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you in MTV yet? < 1435266555 967647 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. < 1435266580 27214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtv < 1435266580 703967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtv? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435266598 441406 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435266653 129055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1435266653 379310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 252053Z 30012KT 10SM CLR 25/13 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP123 T02500128 58008 < 1435266655 599253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSJC < 1435266655 860961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSJC 252053Z 31007KT 10SM CLR 29/13 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP115 T02940133 58010 < 1435266671 289465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1435266671 663112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 252050Z 24010KT 9999 -RA FEW012 BKN025 09/07 Q1015 RMK WIND 670FT 26013KT < 1435266674 721943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1435266743 81261 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Mountain View". < 1435266755 997220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1435266810 473108 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435266887 726649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure elliott would have taken care of the zombie troll at a decent speed. < 1435266921 516531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i see what you're getting at < 1435266953 840040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1435266987 593876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435266988 657296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1435267017 122165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, he'd probably have identified it as either hagb4rd or cheater. < 1435267060 314064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe i don't see what you're getting at < 1435267076 152816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1435267083 320450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267084 173632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​å/å is the same letter as Å, unless you're HackEgo and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1435267086 804557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267087 717854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?/? is wisdom < 1435267089 871062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267090 750298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparse matrix algorithm/Sparse matrix algorithms are a trivial special case of non-sparse matrix algorithms, by conjugating with the sparsification operation. < 1435267103 151648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267104 15929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is difficult to oracle this < 1435267105 436122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact/facts are lies. They are not there. Go away! < 1435267117 884490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267118 761537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bigchar/bigchar ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵ < 1435267122 871132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1435267128 290427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all that about < 1435267135 773915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bigcharà < 1435267138 367111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435267145 237887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1435267151 565498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't the filename < 1435267156 976811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bigcharà < 1435267158 435444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435267175 366679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual filename is "wisdom/bigchar" followed by an invalid UTF-8 sequence probably < 1435267183 550151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435267203 933150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/bigchar* < 1435267205 959140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot guestbot < 1435267208 409895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/bigchar* < 1435267210 57384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot guestbot < 1435267210 776009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435267226 921973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` url wisdom/bigchar* < 1435267227 868681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/bigchar%E0 < 1435267257 288185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log culprits/bigchar* | greps summary: < 1435267259 6399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: greps: command not found < 1435267263 707805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log culprits/bigchar* | grep summary: < 1435267265 181521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435267275 475955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1435267280 36049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/bigchar* | grep summary: < 1435267281 390266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <oerjan> revert \ summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: <guestbot> learn bigchar \xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\x < 1435267306 958298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't mind if you delete it < 1435267316 472852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you won't do it yourself, huh? < 1435267341 799636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1435267342 11957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/bigchar* < 1435267344 720097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435267350 573473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267351 569406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :article/An article is something that `learn can understand. < 1435267352 316252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267354 964008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotton/gotton is a quantum of attention. Solain drives the packet. < 1435267360 979513 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435267529 762798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267530 651473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar/The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf < 1435267555 846434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: i've never looked for either of those commands tdnh < 1435267618 221993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435267619 215016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia/nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1435267669 907972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think those are oren_'s recommendations < 1435267693 978642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*wolfram < 1435267694 898709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/stephen wolfram \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Apr 15 07:52 wisdom/wolfram < 1435267701 617178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stephen wolfram < 1435267702 299291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1435267703 93028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wolfram < 1435267703 859795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1435267706 784646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this about < 1435267714 779530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :revert issues? < 1435267728 539779 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435267733 729200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so, previous experiments show `revert can undo symbolic links < 1435267748 167278 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435267762 346069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/wolfram; ln -s stephen\ wolfram wisdom/wolfram < 1435267764 362575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435267808 884995 :YokeOfIdea!~yokeofide@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435268071 325542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* fowl is god, AMA <-- wtf is WRONG with you twh < 1435268087 246717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "AMA" mean? < 1435268102 64174 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont remember saying that < 1435268111 515536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "ask me anything" < 1435268114 475094 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have typed it instead < 1435268127 207103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1435268127 357610 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fr i dont remember typing that < 1435268145 655294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2015-06-25#040516 < 1435268212 253406 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably some hacker wannabe fowl said that < 1435268241 817234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skeptical, also wondering if fowl misinterpreted him < 1435268256 754080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435268257 709836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom____________________hoover/<span accent="British">Your soundcard works perfectly.</span> < 1435268295 444177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well you said pretty much the same thing one time when you banned me from this channel < 1435268312 124983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: that wasn't reprimanding you, that was taking you at face value hth < 1435268326 920039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm rings a bell. you probably deserved it hth < 1435268334 127892 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know what twh means < 1435268339 754740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it had to do with roald dahl hth < 1435268342 414570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1435268342 995438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1435268347 665251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435268350 815632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1435268351 562875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1435268395 956101 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435268403 206370 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1435268538 123987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435268538 928758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1435268686 848364 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435268703 436688 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435268808 533855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if the (english) bible contains any other programming language names < 1435268842 246068 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435268856 441391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435268857 344103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham/Ham is a kind of meat. It is popular in Hexham, among other places. < 1435268878 167375 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1435268983 700742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: presumably a lot of languages whose names are taken from common english words < 1435268997 52728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435269063 507851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :go, forth, scheme, visual basic .net, ruby, inform < 1435269066 884689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those sorts of things < 1435269098 849874 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435269119 829221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? herbalist < 1435269120 540596 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :herbalist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435269140 217825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A herbalist is a list of herbas. < 1435269142 55031 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'herbalist': A herbalist is a list of herbas. < 1435269721 99724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435269721 878318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhubarb/Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb, rhubarb: rhubarb rhubarb? Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb rhubarb. < 1435269798 796614 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435269834 245457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435269835 124268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman/mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1435269847 822992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435269849 29268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thyme/Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1435269912 966810 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \./ < 1435269913 205779 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1435269913 340591 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ < 1435269916 271769 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\./ \./ < 1435269918 137708 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\./ \o/ < 1435269918 332091 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     | < 1435269918 396438 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    /| < 1435269929 63531 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :|o| < 1435269929 523213 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1435269929 587139 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ < 1435269936 604337 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :|o||o||o| < 1435269936 824431 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |  |  | < 1435269937 234463 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/'\/< /'\ < 1435269941 497931 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :|o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o||o| < 1435270005 581437 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\,/ < 1435270014 209284 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\,/\,/\,/ < 1435270021 415275 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww no handstanding stick figures? < 1435270029 950492 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice idea < 1435270041 861378 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ HAYY BIRTHDAY \o/ \o/ < 1435270042 14057 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |   ¦                 |   | < 1435270042 93345 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  ´¸¨                >\ /| < 1435270064 724294 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :´¸¨ whot is dat lol < 1435270084 951716 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1435270089 495350 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1435270089 956128 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1435270090 16426 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /< < 1435270100 435206 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/|o||o||o||o||o| < 1435270100 681213 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   |  |  |  |  |  | < 1435270101 67667 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   >\/| /< /|  >\/^\ < 1435270112 903738 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/|o||o||o||o||o| < 1435270113 71818 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   |  |  |  |  |  | < 1435270113 172182 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  /'\/^\ >\/< /'\/| < 1435270138 465299 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is /^\ < 1435270147 320752 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :legs < 1435270252 983968 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up any new esolang stuff < 1435270441 362177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zombiecheney < 1435270442 132906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieCheney lives under a bridge. < 1435270460 234877 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Mov < 1435270475 775073 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats' so cool!!!!! < 1435270479 645718 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was me, implying that ZC is a troll < 1435270492 25969 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a thing about branchless programming in assembly < 1435270496 52589 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it pipelined < 1435270502 247119 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its meant to be faster < 1435270505 349059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: yes, i'm just getting to the point of the logs where shachaf tried to delete that but failed < 1435270509 914926 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's some cool tricks in it < 1435270515 153446 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's also cryptography < 1435270520 820344 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you sometimes want branchless code < 1435270531 519549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oops < 1435270547 42632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he kept forgetting about case, and then his revert trick only reverted files that existed previously < 1435270553 229938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zombiechenie < 1435270553 972106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieChenie is a noob < 1435270554 435643 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_ cool < 1435270561 524361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1435270562 702199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1435270568 474132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's why everything was messed up < 1435270573 334987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, you listed them explicitly. < 1435270573 441157 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov < 1435270604 44796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in 6502 codes though you can use fall-through in the cases where you want to improve the speed, and therefore avoid branches in a few case like that too. However, in 6502 there isn't pipelining and branches aren't too slow anyways, but they still take up time like any other instruction does. < 1435270618 578455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/zom* < 1435270619 280321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/zombiecheney \ wisdom/zombiechenie \ wisdom/zomgmodules \ wisdom/zomiecheney < 1435270623 272627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: look i was in the middle of other things at the time < 1435270628 714556 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting zzo38 < 1435270633 310583 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool < 1435270640 881101 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know much about 6502 < 1435270653 253612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do know 6502 < 1435270680 887240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/zombiechenie < 1435270682 343598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435270691 198880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zomiecheney < 1435270691 875851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZomieCheney is ZombieCheney < 1435270700 596256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/zomiecheney < 1435270701 860776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435270704 24065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn 6502 programming < 1435270708 717409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll leave one. < 1435270713 567673 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tautology < 1435270715 315536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tautology? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435270729 487559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks for cleaning it up tdh < 1435270733 952765 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A tautology is a tautology. < 1435270735 767150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tautology': A tautology is a tautology. < 1435270756 122362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think there is any mistake in this program? http://sprunge.us/BQJV < 1435270764 814161 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A tautology is a tautology. Oren invented them. < 1435270766 483146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tautology': A tautology is a tautology. Oren invented them. < 1435270792 218729 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too hard to tell if there's an error just by looking < 1435270798 277912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: better with the nick orin < 1435270804 902102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you can call them orinventions < 1435270839 77417 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xaxaxaxaxaxa < 1435270876 229683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :such orenthusiasm < 1435270897 783880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sickness orin health < 1435270900 896132 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see I can lagh in russian < 1435270901 186843 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren is the snake pendant from the neverending story < 1435270912 953365 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that intended < 1435270931 440127 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-svvvyivxrpdlvgnp QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435270936 830853 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren is my real name, pronounced as if spelled orin < 1435270965 806502 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzuvtonyytownuxv JOIN :#esoteric < 1435270970 655808 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.neverendingstory.com/images/auryn2.jpg < 1435270984 744767 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spelt it wrong my bad < 1435271187 29685 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwow < 1435271189 904461 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :keymaker edited < 1435271288 404967 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/APLBAONWSJAS LOL < 1435271357 464633 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435271459 910217 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435272173 855704 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435272338 696336 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435272753 816375 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435272992 694076 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Shadertoy < 1435273669 277465 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad is reading a book by "emile zola" apparently not the zola I was thinking of < 1435273963 464654 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435274061 623451 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :space jam remix by P*Light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdjlBRs4zyU < 1435274292 376930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which zola were you thinking of < 1435274300 283505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :emile is pretty famous < 1435274466 715358 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of zola from GG < 1435274485 318780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1435274504 775637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me of a theory i keep wanting to tell int-e but he's always idle when i remember it < 1435274530 930647 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant you @tell him the theory < 1435274561 856083 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan can't you @tell int-e the theory? < 1435274561 909793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435274610 122948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e Obvious explanation for Gil's recent comments about the Other: it's actually Zola < 1435274610 176950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435274687 836647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-clever < 1435274687 930153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1435274697 712857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clever-messages < 1435274697 766646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1435274733 931682 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mesages-loud < 1435274733 985523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1435274780 970440 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are business cards for? < 1435274799 621613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting question < 1435274847 92935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exchange greeting ritual < 1435274909 214919 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1435274913 99329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i've never done business, i don't really know. < 1435275332 401991 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting given a business card is good. < 1435275529 615594 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: really? As a person who in a week is going to be expected to carry business cards, who should I give them to, when? < 1435275544 113114 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you like someone < 1435275621 651219 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/ASCII_art- isn't that just brainfuck? < 1435275900 864282 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the jok < 1435275926 205949 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1435275943 441648 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435277604 187972 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435278208 724316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435278379 798012 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435278569 644486 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435278569 719983 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow < 1435279551 961637 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435279649 358977 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435279673 829794 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : You aren't totally sure if "EQUIP" is a verb copasetic with the abstract behavioral medium in which you dwell, but you give it a try anyway. < 1435279930 577747 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435280987 352330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435281398 120337 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435281789 841116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kirbyfan64sos 5* 10New user account < 1435282425 817871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unc14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43292 5* 03Kirbyfan64sos 5* (+761) 10Created page with "'''unc''' is an estoric version of C with various keywords and characters swapped around to make programs difficult to write and read. For instance, this is a [[Hello, world!]..." < 1435282472 452671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43293&oldid=43243 5* 03Kirbyfan64sos 5* (+10) 10/* U */ < 1435283350 854582 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: business cards tell people what you do and how to contact you. < 1435284592 262825 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435285032 434752 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435285190 233187 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435286215 856497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435286479 278641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435286480 79044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :webcarting/webcarting is not dissimilar to Mario Kart, but uses real, remote-controlled go-karts. Participants describe it as "the outlandish spectacle of real go-karting combined with the thrill and immersion of Mario Kart". < 1435286859 73505 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I know that, but when should I offer one? < 1435287001 903956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as a FireWire->RF converter? < 1435287071 368880 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... what sort of signal is being converted? < 1435287085 332787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireWire video signal < 1435287093 120197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With IEEE-1394 < 1435287111 639887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to convert into analog RF TV cable signal < 1435287206 683726 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Canopus-ADVC-110-adapter-FireWire/dp/B001LOO4O2 < 1435287374 730868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I should want to output any VHF TV channel 2-13, so that a VCR can be programmed to record from any channel < 1435287809 881895 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435288378 48124 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A D-VHS recorder would suffice. < 1435290068 579980 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435290349 595958 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: whenever you want someone to be able to contact you, I guess? < 1435290391 935647 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it could be seen as inappropriate to offer a business card. If they're not interested, they can just discard it later. < 1435290432 827794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, they should tell you they don't want it, if they don't want it, and then you can save it to give to someone else instead possibly < 1435290469 923733 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be kind of ungracious, though. < 1435290665 4442 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't refuse a business card unless I were completely sure that the other person wouldn't be upset or offended at all. < 1435290725 148837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't care; I would just refuse it if I didn't need it (unless they have far more than they need anyways). But if I gave someone business card I would try to ensure that they can give it back if they don't need it. OK < 1435290887 905193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originally my plan was to make RULECARD out of S-expressions, but now my idea is to make it out of RDF instead. I intended to have that the extensions in the program (the program consists of a set of extensions) are commutative and idempotent, and that any extension can be further extended, and namespaces and private/public and a few other things. RDF already does this automatically though, therefore I can use RDF instead. < 1435291290 940255 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd say that refusing a business card is tantamount to outright stating you're not actually interested in contacting the person. < 1435291297 60475 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess may or may not be a bad thing. < 1435291360 526331 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435291384 200081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, it may or may not be a bad thing; it can depend on many thing. Or maybe, you just don't contact them for business, and you already know their home telephone number (because they told you before). There can be more than one way. < 1435291396 405388 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1435292220 150077 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see... that helps. < 1435292409 386150 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435293279 658147 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435293636 926323 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. So I've been thinking about how to create the Ultimate Computer Language. < 1435293664 373892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any idea how to do? < 1435293693 686602 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I've come up with so far is a language that lets you define "sketches" (which are more or less varieties of algebraic structures) and morphisms between them (essentially functors). < 1435293736 15205 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This already includes all the basic non-recursive parts of Haskell. < 1435293779 700697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should need macros as well; programming language generally better by having macros, in my opinion . < 1435293808 647172 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping to completely obviate the need for macros. < 1435293813 637615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although what you have seem good, but you should make example so that I can understand them more better < 1435293830 398946 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't fully figured it out myself. < 1435293900 639596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must learn. < 1435293961 553190 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of stuff can be seen as morphisms between sketches. There's a sketch which just means "a type", so defining a type is the same as defining a morphism from the empty sketch to the "a type" sketch. < 1435294094 845464 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like defining a polymorphic function is essentially defining a sketch morphism which has certain properties. < 1435294141 711497 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sketches attempt to define categories, but sketches seem to have some pretty interesting categorical structure themselves. < 1435294234 504340 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I had better go to bed. I need to get up early tomorrow morning and I'm already up late. < 1435294236 367648 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night, everyone. < 1435295579 218837 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1435296525 773939 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435296579 501949 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435296692 555952 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435300612 40682 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435302344 546593 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435303430 577430 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.36.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435305697 574504 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435305725 11721 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435306507 660913 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.36.181 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435307046 433414 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435309642 593405 :husanu1!~husanu1@91.199.104.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435310159 612312 :husanu1!~husanu1@91.199.104.6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435310463 973080 :husanu3!~husanu3@91.199.104.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435310786 825815 :husanu3!~husanu3@91.199.104.6 QUIT :Killed (marienz (Drones are not welcome on freenode.)) < 1435314542 226310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435315037 283079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435316313 652736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. the drought continues? < 1435316344 196610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very wet drought < 1435316364 432695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1435316365 100351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 261050Z 28015KT 9999 SCT013 BKN024 11/08 Q1017 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29016KT < 1435316406 564943 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was refering to the fungotlack hth < 1435316407 542635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually by the weather forecast it's supposed to be dry now, but no one seems to have told the pavement. < 1435316410 686311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1435316433 564752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, this looks like reasonable Norweather. < 1435316438 359486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to fix with fizzie AWOL < 1435316457 290374 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1435316457 888089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 261000Z 01005KT 30SM FEW100 FEW240 13/09 A3003 RMK AC1CI1 SLP170 < 1435316542 192307 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435316560 152846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for april, maybe. < 1435316592 227291 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435316597 853961 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's still April over at your place. who knows, timezones are complicated. < 1435316606 135903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were 3-4 hot days last week, then it went back down again. < 1435316657 186420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, the newspaper wrote articles about "we've had only one registered june colder than this, and that was in the 1920s" < 1435316776 30795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course records start some time in the 1800s) < 1435317437 598301 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lowest we've hit here was 7,2 °C in 1970, highest 33,4 °C in 2003. < 1435317449 57059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(records from 1942-2015) < 1435317502 105494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i think the record was average daily maximum < 1435317526 999458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not actual point time extremes < 1435317556 453253 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō... < 1435317594 926181 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, this winter we broke all kinds of records (damn you February and March!), but that happening in June... < 1435317624 494746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was of course record _for_ june < 1435317632 243903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1435317707 975001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now last year's january, _that_ was a freaky month. < 1435317721 525602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get wildfires spreading, in january, in norway... < 1435317766 805895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drought, not temperature. they were actually _sub-zero_ wildfires.) < 1435317790 939871 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS SUB-ZERO WILDFIRES LA LA LA < 1435317825 650751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the firefighters had trouble with the water freezing. < 1435317871 13650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: celsius not fahrenheit hth < 1435317912 562942 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435317987 498396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm quite sure i told you all about it at the time. < 1435318012 743853 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have had the same reflex at that moment hth < 1435318018 144746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well maybe not about the water freezing.) < 1435318063 708772 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435318080 973801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm going to take a shower. a hot shower, with unmistakeably hot water. the liquid kind that warms you. waaaaaaaaarm. < 1435318088 951381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1435318094 311524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will do so later. < 1435318108 302340 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DUPLICATE CHICKEN < 1435319124 986067 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435319304 276276 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gesundheit. < 1435319485 138869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435323259 125321 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezones are complicated. < 1435324293 976716 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435325115 984365 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435328446 47308 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write a bot to search for esolangs that don't involve numbers < 1435328467 750008 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it will help me to create "numeric $language" :) < 1435328520 494270 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numeric Whitespace. Replace \s with 0, \t with 1 and linefeeds with 2 < 1435328547 772241 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hppavilion1 sounds a lot like this one virus < 1435328576 61506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an actual laptop brand hth < 1435328597 647378 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human papillomavirus < 1435328961 6337 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody tried nuking the sun yet? < 1435329074 156212 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a quora question about that o_O < 1435329080 741971 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the answers are just "nope sun is too huge" < 1435329109 518707 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll trigger a CME of doom or something < 1435329115 770119 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without really destroying the sun < 1435329131 452177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Argh! < 1435329146 361259 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan You can't escape my nukes. < 1435329146 415085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435329154 863032 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can < 1435329180 703905 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? can < 1435329196 169912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435329246 894877 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cotfbzniyrxmmrhr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435329492 675353 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Can cans can cans? < 1435329494 922968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'can': Can cans can cans? < 1435329584 333232 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Czechs check cheque checksums. < 1435329601 697708 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435329605 176127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gonna be a tough weekend < 1435329615 691806 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might develop some esolang as a distraction < 1435329655 646696 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot is STILL gone? I thought I saw... hmm... < 1435329683 416518 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, still hold prisoner < 1435329698 197637 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prisoner? < 1435329726 214043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is evil. < 1435329731 835479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :he takes prisoners < 1435329734 548483 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or she < 1435329735 340221 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it < 1435329736 939396 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1435329852 64496 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 4-or-so (When did fnord begin? I don't keep track of time.) MONTHS, or was there a bit of time in the middle? < 1435329901 930839 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435329908 773566 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1435329966 310298 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435330005 956868 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435330014 821800 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know when this started, but Fungot was trapped in a house for a few weeks a long time ago - is that still the case? < 1435330038 591442 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, this time it's different. < 1435330041 319918 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :More politics involved. < 1435330051 982474 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politics? < 1435330080 928762 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435330209 687404 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, politics. < 1435330221 699400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... people that get elected or elect themselves < 1435330229 542843 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they talk, they have a lot of differences < 1435330240 340058 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone pretends to like each other but secretely they all hate each other < 1435330244 76119 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That needs more context to make sense... < 1435330273 159006 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IK what politics is - how does it apply? < 1435330279 936626 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :estonia doesn't want to admit they hate foreigners < 1435330282 414948 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1435330286 743965 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whathever < 1435330327 52781 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: You know that I'm crazy and just make this stuff up right? < 1435330364 119857 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... < 1435330374 13345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now you know. < 1435330374 225793 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd better set mroman to use something other than europarl. < 1435330381 768168 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh oh! < 1435330388 194844 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want me to use "ghangsta"? < 1435330397 323718 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Estonia bit I figured was a joke, but... < 1435330398 468165 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Please select a style < 1435330402 970273 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using \style <style>) < 1435330420 528017 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "irc" is the best. < 1435330420 740145 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad was in estonia once... they mainly hate russians < 1435330450 77403 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a fnord in estonia. Although long time not seen much. Russia is < 1435330462 30117 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'a common for post-soviet colonies < 1435330490 30846 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used emacs once. Can it fnord files? < 1435330552 791718 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435330592 51025 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e... you could delay the madness for them... you know how... towel poetry magrathea < 1435330621 29496 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme is really crispy. (fnord (cnat (cnat (fnord)). < 1435330622 480293 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1435330623 163744 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435330630 61364 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome. < 1435330712 214316 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Current selected style is "irc". < 1435331245 995250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43294&oldid=43268 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+153) 10/* PFIL */ < 1435331537 727934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean I could reactivate my fungot instance? < 1435331575 313514 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1435331587 337881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the right ssh credentials right now. < 1435331619 434333 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later < 1435331620 617321 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sequences require std::vector. Notably the fact that fnord. < 1435331898 266372 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435332220 828669 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435332258 802978 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435332282 89126 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435332393 550683 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about no bots? < 1435332399 806634 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #esoteric < 1435332421 35473 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :None? At all? < 1435332448 257867 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :except tunes bot < 1435332609 72564 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435332656 790143 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435332771 891477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435332772 920312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goat/Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. < 1435333212 392353 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435333213 347246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup/A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1435333218 621650 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435333219 470333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. < 1435333251 874264 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435333252 757364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :structural subtyping/Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1435333282 82376 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is just bot spam < 1435333298 279220 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1435333316 127658 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XShdmeKmNxw < 1435333374 929655 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have any love for the robots? < 1435333385 142400 :password2!~password@197.77.81.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435333504 106117 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which esoteric languages have network support...? < 1435333573 329503 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not many < 1435333594 582964 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However most could easily be extened to support it < 1435333713 377568 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :L33t apparently does < 1435333885 722454 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1435334119 110949 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435334165 153897 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435334235 545961 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A better question might be: which esolangs are inherently networked < 1435334296 586559 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inherently networked? < 1435334298 748636 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435334299 530048 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435334336 891015 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A BETTER question might be: Brainfuck with networking. How do we do it and make it useful? < 1435334367 724283 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaaan < 1435334368 834464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン < 1435334487 234051 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/* < 1435334487 781286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: emoticons/*: No such file or directory < 1435334493 612302 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadface < 1435334504 74459 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls emoticons < 1435334504 818536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ swatter \ useless < 1435334707 617431 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t(-_-t) < 1435334720 398369 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esoteric language where non-trivial programs require messages to get bounced between multiple machines? < 1435334744 689728 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOoooh... < 1435334767 162924 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: I think you mean 凸 < 1435334774 12608 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: sorry, TIS-100 was released a month ago < 1435334788 465025 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just see a block- Oooooooooh < 1435334795 59833 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer t(-_-t) < 1435334798 518841 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks bettter < 1435334807 71073 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's TIS-100? < 1435334834 449872 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game slash assembly-ish programming language that requires data to get bounced between multiple machines for nontrivial programs < 1435334857 105814 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... scripts differ in how much a character can differ between fonts < 1435334891 455264 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1435334898 488808 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi variable! < 1435334904 240761 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, constant! < 1435334916 150105 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: hi! < 1435334922 626113 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's it going < 1435334923 873550 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435334933 491937 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION focussing on some coding < 1435334934 959868 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(each node can hold up to two numbers, although only one is accessible at a time) < 1435334936 98345 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION awkwardly makes smalltalk (No Pun Intended) < 1435335005 914167 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go < 1435335010 432146 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back in a bit < 1435335266 882861 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what is the source of the song in http://www.4chan.org/flash?file=dsfargeg.swf&title=dsfargeg ? < 1435335271 143534 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435335275 150922 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit I"m int he wrong freaking channel < 1435335318 948713 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when I go to seven channels on three servers, and at least two discuss programming-related things sometimes. < 1435335326 23615 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually more. < 1435335553 556702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To add insult to the injury, I also deleted that fungot/funge experiment. So I probably won't revive it. < 1435335630 238009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not quite. I moved lambdabot to a different host in the meantime... the files are still around. < 1435335852 843807 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435335859 862854 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1435335860 286338 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: irc* < 1435335886 937797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that was easier than I thought. < 1435335890 808330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: explain! < 1435335891 340872 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: on a piece. within a few short vog years every last vogon had migrated to the megabrantis cluster, the political economy. deep in the heart of a dark screen, just under five years, but you will when i was a kid you just saved a lot. " so," said ford, " you reckon, what's the problem? a sudden silence afterwards." you can tell. he sat at it for a while. but he didn't turn yet," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendou < 1435335924 442546 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! Fnord is back! < 1435335932 26784 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, the USSC has gone for it < 1435336161 577576 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not expect that < 1435336189 63745 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435336191 531831 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm back < 1435336283 859989 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoooooon < 1435336469 966550 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm leaving < 1435336476 81753 :hppavilion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435336479 366587 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyw < 1435337119 342584 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... So we have variable typing, like Java or C, and value typing, like python or haskell. is there any other options? < 1435337182 257641 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: Line number typing, where the type changes based on line number? < 1435337195 353504 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type of what? < 1435337221 366347 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Values. < 1435337237 548380 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then that would be valeu typing with a weird syntax, right? < 1435337316 500706 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you have operator typing, like Forth < 1435337344 39914 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(values are just bits. the operator determines what those bits are interpreted as) < 1435337347 152543 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Then that would be valeu typing with a weird syntax, right?" : Yes. < 1435337377 699190 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But where's the fun in saying that? < 1435337484 773831 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL is partially variable typed and partially operator tpyed < 1435337573 514672 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you give it a set of numbers, and whether those numbers are in groups of 9 representing triangles or 6 representing lines, or whatever, is determined separately) < 1435337654 360797 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there is also "monotyping" where only one type is supported directly. < 1435337687 170454 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like BF or sed < 1435337968 369533 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435338279 611956 :password2!~password@197.77.81.26 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435338500 473629 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435339395 685628 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cotfbzniyrxmmrhr QUIT :Quit: . < 1435339566 271756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Typing14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43295 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+1022) 10taxonomy of languages by type system... probably doesn't cover all bases yet. < 1435339686 756368 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435339687 863899 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I missing anything? < 1435339710 944673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Hppavilion114]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43296 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+83) 10/* I don't want my talk button to be a red link */ new section < 1435339711 811100 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435339770 657806 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435339915 996606 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435339927 867071 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435339948 388857 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435340082 108542 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any type systems that aren't in one of those groups? < 1435340360 766753 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the "everything is a string" type? < 1435340375 15192 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the mandatorily dynamic type? < 1435340401 454751 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you reassign a variable, the new value has to be a different type from its current value < 1435340460 191784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavlion1: only its current value, or all the previous values? do languages with only mutable-once variables count? < 1435340473 552936 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only current value < 1435340486 39802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's easy enough, just zero the value temporarily < 1435340490 729171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :before any assignment < 1435340500 875876 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR all previous values < 1435340501 830661 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1435340508 747021 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the language < 1435340509 740671 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1435340520 583623 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still a different type system < 1435340534 252277 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the VERY weak type system < 1435340555 41896 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+'2'=='4' < 1435340573 19042 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The above statement evaluates to true) < 1435340576 146008 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PHP stringly-typed system < 1435340603 939980 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO < 1435340608 463859 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The xkcd type system < 1435340609 137978 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1537/ < 1435340852 287254 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any other type systems? < 1435340880 271422 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the overly-static type system? < 1435340891 946605 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inverse of mandatorily dynamic < 1435340898 572658 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variables can't change type < 1435340907 277259 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they all have to be the same type < 1435340980 390566 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's a family of of kinda-sora-dynamic types < 1435340993 837922 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one makes it so variabels can change type, but only in a family < 1435341024 357239 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int can become short or long, but not char, char can become string. Groups are arbitrary, not memory based) < 1435341029 50177 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other is rotary < 1435341033 881050 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variables can change tyep < 1435341043 684461 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they can only change to the next type in a chain < 1435341059 156171 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chain loops back to the beginning < 1435341175 160014 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? Your thoughts? < 1435343081 560471 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai all < 1435343092 513241 :hppavlion1!4441b10a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.65.177.10 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435343518 456839 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435343721 794363 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435344434 722194 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435344969 452905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435344970 772701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat/qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435345070 874892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345072 12205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia/metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks. < 1435345090 761656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345091 693747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids/Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1435345096 31980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345097 278510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⌨/You are probably using one right now! < 1435345104 668150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345105 875306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qzyzzalroum/You should start the crossword over. < 1435345116 400951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345117 734166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arothmorphise/arothmorphise ... antormo... antrohm... ant... oh bugger. This should go in the `misspellings of antrhrop... atnhro...' entry. < 1435345126 275763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345128 89643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/knows/knew/ wisdom/metasepia < 1435345129 9383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code/[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078... < 1435345130 576429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435345178 562536 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@duck < 1435345178 654319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: docs dice < 1435345184 114783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345184 963712 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon/Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1435345186 66134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 100d100 < 1435345186 170624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 5028 < 1435345194 547001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :100d100 < 1435345194 601003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5412 < 1435345272 488368 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does that contextual dice come up often? < 1435345440 301245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember ever seeing it come up accidentally. < 1435345446 116154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it must occasionally. < 1435345474 450733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't trigger in the middle 100d100 of a sentence. < 1435345485 49608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 3 + 5d4 < 1435345485 103542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 + 3 + 13 => 17 < 1435345487 362200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sounds harmless enough then :) < 1435345495 178837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+2+3d1 < 1435345495 232721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 1 + 2 + (1+1+1) => 6 < 1435345498 707972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+2+3 < 1435345513 667314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the ol' d1 lambdabot calculator trick. < 1435345514 129330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's clever enough to require at least one die throw < 1435345521 990565 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :999999999d2 < 1435345522 448292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1499981740 < 1435345542 20526 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :999999999999d2 < 1435345542 74508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1500000212521 < 1435345559 32812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's using a normal distribution for that < 1435345569 951333 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rounding, obviously) < 1435345571 56232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345571 942775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :character/A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1. < 1435345599 592675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345600 416718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc/bc ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵ < 1435345604 161356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? out of character < 1435345604 903804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of character? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435345605 796097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bc < 1435345607 316442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot < 1435345613 844159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/bc | grep summary: < 1435345615 149023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: <guestbot> learn bc \xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\x < 1435345626 624362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this guestbot thing? < 1435345628 343971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/bc < 1435345630 465504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435345634 783533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435345636 645616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bowser/A Bowser is a Koopa client for convenient administration of mooks in Mushroom Kingdom. < 1435345708 618833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1435345755 285532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` learn A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten. < 1435345757 398446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'a': A < 1435345761 380426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh. < 1435345767 964013 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435345775 224252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435345806 40997 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1435345806 806724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1435345811 343512 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten. < 1435345813 179060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'trick': A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten. < 1435345865 184296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bots < 1435345865 903840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435345869 789088 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bot < 1435345870 445894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435345950 31713 :impomatic_!~digital_w@32.127.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1435345960 2789 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambdabot < 1435345960 861612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1435345965 181254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1435345966 6738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1435345984 917833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: you're just a poor substitute. < 1435345985 367332 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: of no significance of anything he did. " you're really not going to be outcooled. panic sprouted again, desperate that any man who can," ford hissed at him to stop his hands. the marketing division of the sirius cybernetics corporation as " a bunch of mindless tedium... " you think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is the story to him to ask a question which had been bothering him. in a few seconds," he continued < 1435346237 171720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Typing14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43297&oldid=43295 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+37) 10 < 1435346289 996046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ais523 has not returned after being kicked by oerjan... < 1435346438 199338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are having to make Unusenet now, in case you don't have Usenet then you can use Unusenet by NNTP < 1435346911 405540 :Atheneti!~Atheneti@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435346992 602429 :Atheneti!~Atheneti@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435347071 806334 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen ais523 < 1435347071 860327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIS523 < 1435347088 715089 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1435347088 806071 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands < 1435347243 472156 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523 < 1435347243 525967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ais523. < 1435347381 832447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03EmptyJL 5* 10New user account < 1435347449 651565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435347543 725334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If I don't have Usenet, why would I have Unusenet? < 1435347592 738853 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen doesn't work anymore? < 1435347634 930991 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oren < 1435347635 36834 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :0rEN < 1435347672 611545 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oren < 1435347672 717414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OReN < 1435347687 747412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you can't use Usenet (many service providers no longer support it I have heard, and even if they do some groups may be missing), so we can make up Unusenet instead. < 1435347701 961710 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oren_ < 1435347702 67949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OREn_ < 1435347727 75112 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should say "oren_ is in #esoteric, Oren last spoke at something something" < 1435347797 991960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's to say what it should or shouldn't do? < 1435347801 350061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435347802 308118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category/Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1435347972 947092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did Atheneti join this channel just to send me a private message containing a link to a gopher server on a non-standard port number that contained instruction to tell a user on another IRC network something? < 1435348102 513534 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1435348173 389690 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of today, I have been running the same irssi process for 25 days < 1435348258 990197 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that irssi has stable code < 1435348329 722391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which user on what network? < 1435348441 801062 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43298 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+2832) 10Created page with " Noisett is a minimalistic multi-agent middleware, where agents are tiny pattern-triggered peers. These agents are named "Nuts". When they receive a message, they can send ot..." < 1435348519 346733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435348698 897621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43299&oldid=43293 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+14) 10 < 1435348802 510749 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435348814 201887 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435348926 599094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43300&oldid=43298 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+24) 10 < 1435348998 604870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Number-rock14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43301 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+2970) 10Created page with "[[Category:Languages]][[Category:2015]][[Category:Unimplemented]] [[Number-rock]] is the programming language where the program consist of a series of definitions. It is not ..." < 1435349053 560395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43302&oldid=43300 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+25) 10 < 1435349089 975453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43303&oldid=43302 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+2) 10 < 1435349162 598716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Number-rock14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43304&oldid=43301 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+45) 10 < 1435349250 559642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349251 417846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR/Who told you this? < 1435349253 646542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349254 577030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/The 1 is just for disambiguation. < 1435349257 153008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Zzo38/cologneblue.css14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43305 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+416) 10Created page with ".postedit, #sitesub, #titlelinks, #sitetitle, #siteNotice, #footer-navigation, .tagline, #mw-navigation, .mw-editTools, #editpage-copywarn { display: none; } .tocnumber, .mw-h..." < 1435349290 414552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Zzo38/cologneblue.js14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43306 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+223) 10Created page with "$(mw.util.addPortletLink('p-personal','#',undefined,undefined,undefined,'g')).click(function(e){ var x; e.preventDefault(); x=prompt("Goto?",mw.config.get('wgPageName'))..." < 1435349642 82522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349642 905853 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebvention/Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1435349650 698906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349651 549350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øl/Øl, øl og mere øl. < 1435349726 858696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349727 661873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phở/Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1435349831 754946 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435349866 221020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349867 114573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda/``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1435349878 763154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349879 584656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1435349901 764169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349902 656250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii/ascii is the plural of ascius < 1435349910 212312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349911 868212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofunctor/Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1435349915 292763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349916 76736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs/1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1435349931 827454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349932 609759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torus/Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1435349966 860453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435349967 642163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right/Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1435349998 26085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43307&oldid=43303 5* 0390.5.212.59 5* (+102) 10 < 1435350044 55490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435350046 474493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pietbot/Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1435350053 132611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1435350054 634797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/them/it/ wisdom/torus < 1435350056 444460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435350062 690417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've found the culprit < 1435350178 51906 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprit < 1435350178 832388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1435350185 308969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43308&oldid=43307 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+44) 10 < 1435350430 661718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43309&oldid=43308 5* 0390.5.212.59 5* (+0) 10 < 1435350854 238616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't edit it! < 1435350896 674524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprits < 1435350897 974367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435350898 567246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435350900 453262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/culprit < 1435350901 811267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom < 1435350931 831565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Owk14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43310 5* 03Phase 5* (+3599) 10Add Owk language < 1435351216 141590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Owk14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43311&oldid=43310 5* 03Phase 5* (-149) 10Fix code blocks < 1435351478 782659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Phase14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43312 5* 03Phase 5* (+212) 10My very own page < 1435351536 270229 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435351562 964452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435351563 780382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausiblee/A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action. < 1435351571 137019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435351571 908533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :herbalist/A herbalist is a list of herbas. < 1435351575 463270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435351576 280193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1435351601 413680 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Phase 5* 10moved [[02Phase10]] to [[User:Phase]]: Forgot the "User:" < 1435351629 294218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Owk14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43315&oldid=43311 5* 03Phase 5* (+5) 10 < 1435351655 862982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cod14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43316&oldid=43291 5* 03Phase 5* (+5) 10 < 1435351893 814081 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I realized something about M:tG. In the ravnica block, the cards costing hybrid mana are completely uniform: every guild has exactly one common, it costs one hybrid mana plus possibly some colorless; one uncommon hybrid card which is the guildmage; and one rare hybrid. Was this obvious to everyone other than me? < 1435351938 125006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's called "cycles" < 1435351950 763724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the M:tG designers put them in a lot because people like seeing them < 1435352040 234548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, sure, but I didn't realize this particular cycle of commons < 1435352058 971151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I knew three or four cards of them, and knew about the guildmages and a few other guild cycles < 1435352086 94491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it's because I sometimes don't realize what cards are from ravnica rather than shadowmoor < 1435352157 672849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure, there are other cycles that took a long time for me to realize < 1435352163 382249 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in ravnica < 1435352297 162034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for a very long time I didn't know about Gaze of the Gorgon, despite that for a long time I was thinking of building a deck that would need that card and was trying to look for such cards < 1435352313 122754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by the time I realized that Gaze of the Gorgon exists, shadowmoor was already out with a lot of hybrids < 1435352697 178278 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435352738 829749 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435353241 180294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lamb14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43317 5* 03Phase 5* (+875) 10Added the Lamb language < 1435353429 885096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43318&oldid=43299 5* 03Phase 5* (+10) 10/* C */ Added Cod language < 1435353509 343012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43319&oldid=43318 5* 03Phase 5* (+11) 10/* L */ Added Lamb language < 1435353543 273626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43320&oldid=43319 5* 03Phase 5* (+10) 10/* O */ Added Owk language < 1435353716 318239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion114]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43321&oldid=43279 5* 03Phase 5* (+41) 10Add link the GitHub page < 1435354020 342 :keren!~canaima@200.93.15.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435354022 911919 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435354030 697777 :keren!~canaima@200.93.15.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1435354118 42104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Developers14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43322&oldid=43128 5* 03Phase 5* (+14711) 10Copy Uncyclopedia article, as it may be deleted < 1435354162 627829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noit o' mnain worb14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43323&oldid=34952 5* 0386.130.248.38 5* (+38) 10/* Etymology */ explain what the hidden message is < 1435354191 203800 :keren!~canaima@200.93.15.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1435354232 290670 :keren!~canaima@200.93.15.143 PART :#esoteric < 1435354639 864344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1435354715 203904 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435354885 124237 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435354991 314142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435355244 454976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43324&oldid=43313 5* 03Phase 5* (+11) 10Link to Lamb < 1435356439 145273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oren_> holy crap, the USSC has gone for it <-- oh no. does that mean we're doomed? if only i knew wtf you're referring to twh < 1435356502 442007 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: same-sex marriage < 1435356595 132579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the united states sentencing commission has to meddle in everything. < 1435356599 837578 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435356605 210021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435356607 470571 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1435356607 918744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 262150Z 32006KT 9999 BKN026 09/04 Q1016 RMK WIND 670FT 33007KT < 1435356611 473162 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1435356611 842902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 262200Z 31008KT 30SM FEW060 FEW090 FEW240 24/08 A3005 RMK SC1AC1CI2 SC TR AC TR SLP177 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1435356631 966507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly senses a weird surplus of canadians. < 1435356661 925528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bollyho < 1435356766 740172 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird surplus? I don't think we're too many Canadians in this chännel. < 1435356770 620637 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadians? I thought this was full of finns < 1435356777 131482 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allœ̂rjan! < 1435356801 465928 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, our finns aren't doing too well lately... < 1435356811 41356 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes through fizzie's ghostly aura < 1435356819 712440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fungot either < 1435356834 122672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it was just the weirdness of discussing us news with only canadians involved < 1435356880 334939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree test < 1435356896 985640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435356908 892777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not canadian yet hth < 1435356912 437080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also Canadian < 1435356915 904756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop/loop: see loop < 1435356922 732493 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also not canadian < 1435356957 567961 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fix a canadian surplus, call them americans < 1435356957 621791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1435356957 892537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 262150Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 OVC120 18/12 Q1021 < 1435356960 551910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you also weren't speaking < 1435357063 483371 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: bleh! < 1435357157 998194 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43325&oldid=43309 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+48) 10 < 1435357201 609651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43326&oldid=43325 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (+4) 10 < 1435357531 61166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the code of Famizork so far http://sprunge.us/dOfH it doesn't quite work I wonder if you can know the mistake? I found a few mistakes and fixed it but possibly if many people look, more mistake can be figure out < 1435358431 60102 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435358553 770223 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435358794 716883 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435358877 587012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435358881 382854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two/An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. < 1435358915 23330 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435358916 465001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdt/That doesn't tdt. < 1435358951 932126 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tdt < 1435358954 269058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1435358967 979602 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nst. < 1435359004 660890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such tst? < 1435359013 881595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, got it. < 1435359029 224168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...surprisingly... < 1435359038 274107 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1435359292 342201 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1435359360 511384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, pretty much all the spam that's been getting past my spam filter has been the "your email account is being upgraded/blocked/etc., please log in here to refresh it" kind < 1435359372 846474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I run my own email server < 1435359386 40074 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1435359397 71552 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a filter you can make that stops those too? < 1435359398 899466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spambots seem to have assumed it's an academic server, I think < 1435359411 960514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it's a bayesian filter, it'll catch any that look similar enough to the ones that have come before < 1435359416 115679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they just have more variety < 1435359437 454268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a beer boily < 1435359448 159746 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I had a beer. < 1435359538 980558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one chilling in the freezer. shouldn't take more than a few minutes before i have one. < 1435359592 4896 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435359601 402081 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435359697 113520 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of beer is it? < 1435359705 458811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :summer shandy < 1435359709 319486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz it's hot < 1435359711 791572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside < 1435359805 748887 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh! somebody else who likes shandy! :D < 1435359850 718942 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not a radler. the only fizz is the natural beer kind. < 1435360000 516277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of ginger shandies at the beer store, mostly from the islands < 1435360008 579930 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lemon is more refreshing imo < 1435360151 755319 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing stores 8f to 4000, then 48 to 4001, then 64 to 4002, then finally 10 to 4003 < 1435360187 931595 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus producing an annoying beepthat I am trying to eliminate < 1435360326 89895 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren_. what's a thing? < 1435360342 63898 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nes game 1942 < 1435360363 402823 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the worst sound of any nes game I have ever played < 1435360387 632210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :change them all to zeros! < 1435360411 126449 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have to figure out where the values come from first < 1435360489 892617 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they are read from 0753-0756 < 1435360546 845914 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so when will the day come? < 1435360587 521668 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes. < 1435360605 463030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day when < 1435360610 4282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play games < 1435360612 751120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your computer < 1435360623 112389 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435360650 485678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there Windows API to figure out how much space is take up by the border, caption, menu of the window so that you can figure out the proper size of the main area? < 1435360683 280851 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there was one that actually just told you what th esize of the main area is? or does it give wrong answers? < 1435360724 117496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, what one is it though? < 1435360890 154529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is; I can't remember the actual name, but windows uses the name "client area" for the main area, and "non-client area" for the border, caption, menus etc. < 1435360894 226255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those are good search terms to use < 1435360903 769695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would expect it to be one of thesse things: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724385(v=vs.85).aspx < 1435360932 434448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might have had "metrics" in the name? < 1435360975 868725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's more general than a particular window < 1435361102 504291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VB6 "Height" and "Width" properties are including the non-client area < 1435361103 282227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms633503(v=vs.85).aspx this looks promising < 1435361114 420238 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I can replace the code with a JMP to some zeroed pat of the rom and write some interception code? < 1435361117 201609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435361280 75544 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435361420 955240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it out I don't need any API functions < 1435362555 936450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CONVEYOR CHICKEN < 1435362617 72620 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435362727 682291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Developers14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43327&oldid=43322 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-14711) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Phase|Phase]] ([[User talk:Phase|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:24.150.81.84|24.150.81.84]] < 1435362768 470058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10Oerjan changed visibility of revisions on page [[02Developers10]]: Copyright violation < 1435362800 483356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, we have revision visibility changing now? < 1435362814 543952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't we always? < 1435362815 791213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my skills at manual revision deletion are possibly entirely obsolete then :-( < 1435362824 71097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1435362831 889050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it hadn't even been invented when I first became an Esolang admin < 1435362837 846827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1435362838 735924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it manually at Wikipedia too < 1435363052 942434 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435363094 727397 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435363561 620142 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Phase14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43328 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+358) 10/* Developers */ License incompatibility < 1435363608 274479 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID IT < 1435363620 676559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1435363639 275191 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, how do I diff two roms? < 1435363683 104976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly a mystery. < 1435363739 40503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435363740 530900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner/fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1435363746 540649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435363747 628396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam/Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1435363749 589528 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 'it' I mean I got 1942 to not sound so much like 8-bit diarrhea < 1435363753 773319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435363754 737665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universal property/Universal properties are the best. < 1435363780 260865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am thinking that maybe, perhaps, you are overdoing `wisdom a tiny bit, possibly. < 1435363800 633352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok < 1435363804 622341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you put a probability on it < 1435363828 507766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.814 < 1435363835 516499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1000 < 1435363835 570349 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5 < 1435363856 155749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's decided. < 1435363867 373220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/wisdom < 1435363870 834694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435363898 270821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am thinking that maybe, perhaps, you are overreacting a tiny bit, possibly. < 1435363909 699859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0.316) < 1435363916 4008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1000 < 1435363916 57902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 608 < 1435363919 724941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435363928 885075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435363932 271502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The thing is, if I don't delete bin/wisdom, I'll forget and keep using it. < 1435363954 573627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1435363989 971515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I limit myself to only about a hundred a day? < 1435363997 541679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1435364056 320772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo needs better meta-information available. < 1435364136 278016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there's no way to implement a limit without having `wisdom do repository changes, is there. < 1435364160 611074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could modify HackEgo itself hth < 1435364169 542801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i cannot hth < 1435364184 985886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435364186 21004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25) <ehird> pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. <fungebob> ehird: consider low-gravity porn <ehird> fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1435364186 473671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435364187 363667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1005) <olsner> I've seen horses jump on tv, they can probably jump in scotland too < 1435364187 972424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435364188 890893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :34) <Dylan> actually, I pretended to be a hobo to get directions < 1435364189 472505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435364190 278128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1057) <Taneb> I would like to learn how to use a sword <Taneb> And also how to ride a unicycle <Taneb> Perhaps not at the same time < 1435364190 974844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435364191 889874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :906) <zzo38> I do study philosophy of much. < 1435364320 946980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 me thinks < 1435364342 188789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 34 < 1435364347 984662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* <Dylan> actually, I pretended to be a hobo to get directions < 1435364348 803742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /awful/, but I like the others < 1435364362 976251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should have a similar rule for `wisdom < 1435364372 481218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAA < 1435364410 199817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading through a list of quotes normally makes me laugh so much that I can have trouble breathing < 1435364411 716353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, `wisdom can only be improved, not deleted hth < 1435364413 109992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom, not so much < 1435364429 813086 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bad or boring wisdom should be deleted imo < 1435364434 507528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like quotes but different < 1435364447 324874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no you should be required to make a better one hth < 1435364462 699854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stamps his feet < 1435364486 305020 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1435364491 835310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except those guestbot ones. what's about those? < 1435364508 899675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whatnows? < 1435364538 670872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guestbot made some wisdoms that were seemingly random junk < 1435364591 759530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1435364594 573322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2» < 1435364605 186660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see how much I can bring down the quality of wisdom before people start deleting it < 1435364615 698851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435364616 457691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435364630 493610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fast! < 1435364631 532214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a wisdom, you forgot the slash hth < 1435364646 415556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a very foolish wisdom < 1435364699 624720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hash < 1435364700 280848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435364754 511560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to avoid procrastinating going to bed so much tonight < 1435364765 509596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Hi! < 1435364830 432772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quit message hurts my brain :-( < 1435364941 149729 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435365199 889092 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=10002352884006354848 < 1435365218 824545 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now 1942 doesn't sound like complete *shit* < 1435365776 865372 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435365777 104934 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435366115 152913 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435366629 567559 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435367250 923661 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435368180 25810 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 bit color is good for reducing the size of images < 1435368888 863417 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435369469 407688 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435369837 499200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435372948 312543 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435373879 23911 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435374149 887214 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435374360 446065 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435374719 238617 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435375511 528243 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I screwed up my Facebook profile's thumbnail < 1435375544 586175 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to see what the pride filter looked like if applied twice. Then I tried to switch back to the first one, but the thumbnail now isn't the same, the purple is cut off < 1435375998 981209 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ROT13 encoder14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43329 5* 0324.72.137.130 5* (+35) 10Redirected page to [[ROT13 encoder/decoder]] < 1435376047 789071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ROT13 decoder14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43330 5* 0324.72.137.130 5* (+35) 10Redirected page to [[ROT13 encoder/decoder]] < 1435376508 157286 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats the cost of pridefulness < 1435377798 597362 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :domain names are insanely cheap < 1435377827 460889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the copyright violation that oerjan reverted? < 1435377845 12245 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435377973 141770 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan and shachaf: you could implement a limit on `wisdom by having it seach for invocations of itself in the logs < 1435378014 394630 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not cause repo changes, would it. < 1435378049 872118 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing it was a copy of this page http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Developers! < 1435378730 120980 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435379050 686438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: HackEgo doesn't have access to the logs anymore hth < 1435380929 209958 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, just wget them? < 1435382698 693483 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1435382718 983495 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :There no wget, only zuul < 1435383094 714693 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily got my first yakuman today! suuankou < 1435383094 806303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435383534 723295 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435384426 194751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435385790 446830 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435387457 296948 :fandhy!~fahmykhey@114.125.170.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435387572 358804 :fandhy!~fahmykhey@114.125.170.95 PART :#esoteric < 1435387873 191103 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435387992 659355 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435388170 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:Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435416661 904941 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435417624 543538 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435418472 497834 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435418726 295788 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435419381 369179 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435419889 829713 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435420689 594325 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435420798 461868 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i am here (also, i am nooodl) < 1435420798 554219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435421091 680089 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :guten morgen < 1435422586 106730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oren_ < 1435422586 780026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oren_ is Sat Jun 27 12:31:53 2015 < 1435422904 751823 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435423708 681932 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435423832 254999 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435424098 402472 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435424253 368955 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435424647 350547 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435424755 43556 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435426038 528269 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435426862 240086 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-twcqvzaecxjgtkez QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435426930 568871 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rcgptbcccdbfpsls JOIN :#esoteric < 1435427083 702821 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435427098 78889 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435427123 997973 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1435427143 358083 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try switching clients < 1435427148 192939 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435428471 894792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435429023 549558 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435429266 254385 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435429378 12215 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1435429387 156814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1435429596 833161 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435429899 236063 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me we didn't have a noodl incident < 1435429956 991085 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh we did < 1435430117 639443 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1435430118 193796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 271820Z 06003KT 350V130 9999 -SHRA FEW010 SCT060 BKN080 FEW080CB 17/15 Q1020 TEMPO TSRA < 1435430413 558342 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435430650 271139 :hilquias`!~user@179.180.148.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435430740 264623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l nooodl wisdom < 1435430741 94545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodl < 1435430743 18716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a waste < 1435430755 665672 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435431248 334334 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435431605 725763 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1435431606 545744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1435431639 344987 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1435431699 521111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mauris < 1435431761 983779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mauris/maur is the correct spelling < 1435431767 279581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mauris» < 1435431817 584135 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435431835 3066 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435431952 997031 :hppavilion1!6b4d577d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.87.125 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435432664 231364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435432687 713798 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435432923 619212 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435432926 596031 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 PART :#esoteric < 1435433167 117276 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435433167 717083 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 PART :#esoteric < 1435433360 740428 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435433360 794281 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 PART :#esoteric < 1435433512 164768 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435433534 994727 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 PART :#esoteric < 1435434151 633939 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435434266 423791 :Matt-Nexus5!~meack@189.40.91.15 PART :#esoteric < 1435434958 441830 :hilquias`!~user@179.180.148.199 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435435681 727573 :password2!~password@197.77.57.71 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435436080 485701 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap I found a tumblr with background music that doesn't autoplay < 1435436250 933636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435436341 299042 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1435436373 870786 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://enbizaka-murders.tumblr.com/ < 1435436379 538693 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember music on webpages. they had that in like 2006? and then it went away... < 1435436539 491224 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well specifically I rember it on myspace. I guess all those people went to tumblr, and I got too busy to argue with people over stupis stuff on the internet < 1435436688 780720 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok this person posts way way way too frequently for me to ever catch up < 1435436729 861665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shoelips14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43332 5* 03Phase 5* (+4322) 10Shopelips language < 1435436770 788258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shoelips14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43333&oldid=43332 5* 03Phase 5* (-148) 10 < 1435436774 229344 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EASTBOUND CHICKEN < 1435437321 945439 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hichaf < 1435437351 846535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hauris < 1435437361 814105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hau'r things < 1435437921 91816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435438083 485076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> `le/rn mauris/maur is the correct spelling <-- did you know no:maur = en:ant hth < 1435438119 626287 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "is" ice? < 1435438140 13053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks mauris < 1435438140 793151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, mauris. Thauris. < 1435438146 622879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> seems a waste <-- there's at least one other < 1435438151 522313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodle < 1435438152 355795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1435438166 688773 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: things've been good! how're shachafs < 1435438213 387552 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i patiently await lauding feedback from oerjan on my knowledge of the norwegian language) < 1435438217 994439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il nooodl wisdom < 1435438219 630693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodle \ wisdom/nooodl < 1435438345 416294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: wait what. < 1435438363 250640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/noodle < 1435438364 124498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/noodle: No such file or directory < 1435438380 158242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1435438384 195325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodl < 1435438385 118861 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1435438454 195567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1435438462 632521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: yes. < 1435438484 916144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't connect mauris's statement to his own. < 1435438863 226550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just look around you hth < 1435439184 928331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't see how that is relevant, and neither does my calcium consultant < 1435439213 683518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calcium consultant? < 1435439216 841343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing something now < 1435439234 949299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very bright element < 1435439296 968258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435439317 643050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the calcium thinks you're really bad at this obscure reference thing hth < 1435439360 701837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote obscure < 1435439361 737375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :791) <Phantom__Hoover> the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1435439375 679271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've never added that thing ais523 said < 1435439401 248410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what thing I said? < 1435439449 192665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :about obscure references < 1435439515 638269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not trying to be obscure < 1435439554 207803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am hth < 1435439568 347980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but could you say what you mean instead < 1435439618 419500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not as vulnerable to logic bombs as computers in fiction are < 1435439628 782611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: O KAY < 1435439643 793215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is intelligent calcium hth < 1435439656 853765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look around you, it's everywhere < 1435439699 132606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so is the whole thing a thing where you talk about something else out of look around you < 1435439749 57543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <ais523> (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1435439751 421427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1246) <ais523> (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1435439784 452969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that ages ago, but the sentence is still true < 1435439794 90079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw googling for that in the logs mainly brings up my previous desperate attempts to find it in the logs. < 1435439810 757638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh < 1435439825 71233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that was a standard way < 1435439831 606941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW YOU DO < 1435439872 245533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have to like it. < 1435439879 29301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact references are just terrible < 1435439925 528795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then why did you make one tdnh < 1435439937 193377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for its own sake hth < 1435440990 833112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ TZ='UTC+2' LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 date < 1435440992 377669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :samedi 27 juin 2015, 19:37:45 (UTC-0200) < 1435440994 479285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ TZ='UTC-2' LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 date < 1435440995 898391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :samedi 27 juin 2015, 23:37:50 (UTC+0200) < 1435440997 383309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1435441089 671951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancie < 1435441149 995722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more that the TZ variable is being interpreted backwards < 1435441395 933261 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435441456 174569 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435441513 459619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` TZ='UTC+8' date +'%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %:::z' < 1435441514 42716 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-27 13:47:30 -08 < 1435441517 370409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` TZ='UTC-8' date +'%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %:::z' < 1435441518 75054 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-28 05:47:35 +08 < 1435441528 39629 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435443438 199491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435444962 968867 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435445643 902133 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435446422 233587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43334&oldid=43331 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+266) 10/* Quine */ < 1435446990 2434 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWWW! Tama the stationmaster cat has passed on... RIP Tama. < 1435447917 220556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43335&oldid=43334 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+574) 10 < 1435448192 98879 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the russians get Greece they won't need Syris < 1435448247 816235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43336&oldid=43335 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+35) 10/* Oscillator */ < 1435448348 956179 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43337&oldid=43336 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+16) 10/* [conwaylife.com/wiki/Oscillator Oscillator] */ < 1435448362 932589 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But would they need to pay all that debt for them? < 1435448413 592394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43338&oldid=43337 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (-9) 10/* Oscillator */ < 1435448450 855200 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. But if greece gets kicked out of EU, under a socialist gov't, they might at least be receptive to a russian offer of trade < 1435448536 451770 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, greece doesn't owe russia nay money, they owe it to the Germans (and Swiss) < 1435448628 190859 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what better way to piss off Germany than to let Russian ships berth there? < 1435448686 81346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43339&oldid=43338 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+60) 10/* Oscillator */ < 1435448687 259940 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, that is my crazy prediction < 1435448778 118265 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict a merger of the Greek and cyrillic alphabets. < 1435448782 268562 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1435448782 546265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro said 18h 14m 49s ago: got my first yakuman today! suuankou < 1435448782 601452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris said 7h 46m 24s ago: i am here (also, i am nooodl) < 1435448796 875728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: WOOT! :D < 1435448822 75227 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mauris < 1435448825 656166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maur is the correct spelling < 1435448860 98251 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :already prepared to be wisdompdfified. good job guys! < 1435448878 756508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan of the wisdom pdf tdnh < 1435448892 252591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like logs to remain in the past < 1435448951 178999 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hello? < 1435448951 450412 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and it makes my pinky hurt < 1435448959 423968 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: FUNGOT! < 1435448961 626221 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord and me are trying to solve two problems at once, i think. it's just < 1435448984 598550 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boily: I already implemented an encoding with CGL Unification < 1435448997 262395 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: CGL? < 1435449017 628929 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyrillic Greek and Latin < 1435449033 921374 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially the characters that look the same are encoded only once < 1435449189 954491 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1435449245 602619 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonmaurisoir! < 1435449255 498220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that softish brown finnish bread called? < 1435449349 607780 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my google skills guess "ruis" < 1435449415 84387 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435449432 821327 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellombie < 1435449459 391717 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ZombieAlive < 1435449460 398217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZombieAlive: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1435449627 692721 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1435449656 609329 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fowl < 1435449657 528590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1435449669 199394 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks fowl you're so kind < 1435449687 461647 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like i am part of this community now < 1435449809 488055 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"i=1024 i*16 _xi" < 1435449810 2307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00004000 < 1435449847 19992 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"i=1024 i*64 _xi" < 1435449847 651097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00010000 < 1435449909 729026 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I not have scrip7 on my own computer? < 1435450012 141064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: fellowl. you never were `welcomed? < 1435450125 879878 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435450418 904283 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435450436 620518 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. I drift in an out of lucidity so maybe < 1435452848 689796 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435454408 683753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435454528 988423 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435454546 584418 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435455198 760918 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you all think about code of conducts < 1435455205 989264 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codes of conduct? < 1435455212 468297 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conductive codes? < 1435455284 273702 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conductive codes. < 1435455300 611734 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more seriously, codes of conduct.) < 1435455811 337020 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ finds bugs. | Sir Fungellot is alive and fnord! | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1435455834 685556 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SECTION CHICKEN < 1435458640 266808 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19380 j=29 j*16 i-j _xi" < 1435458641 505724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000191b0 < 1435458670 890642 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19380 j=78 j*16 ij _xi" < 1435458671 527768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25:bad arg < 1435458675 959206 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19380 j=78 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435458676 538524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019860 < 1435458757 736195 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19380 j=78 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435458758 372706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019860 < 1435458892 207860 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[6~ < 1435458925 855143 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: every community has a code of conduct < 1435458936 742982 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most communities leave it implicit < 1435458959 453460 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what just happen < 1435458998 159172 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone set us up the bomb < 1435458998 750210 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a weird glitch, I thought ssh was immune to line noise < 1435459090 314567 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be. < 1435459090 736737 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not immune to terminal weirdness, however. < 1435459091 371846 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that seems like what it must be < 1435459160 358076 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I restarted xfceterm < 1435459685 400791 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435460110 625939 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435460720 267330 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%191b0 j=29 j*16 i-j _xi" < 1435460720 358262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00018fe0 < 1435460726 42745 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%191b0 j=29 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435460726 96517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019380 < 1435460730 94059 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%191b0 j=18 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435460730 933841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000192d0 < 1435461074 170687 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%191b0 j=15 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435461074 262268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000192a0 < 1435461991 806983 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435462028 764325 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1435462066 352400 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my issue with codes of conduct is the vulnerablity of the code itself < 1435462085 635372 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lieu of pressure, or threats from the outside decrying you of not being "conducive" < 1435462215 33542 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lotof the times, the code becomes bogged down naturally from a lot of barrages from internal and external "moralistic community leaders", and it comes in the way of normal function < 1435462225 696827 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to things like micromanaging behavior < 1435462241 489127 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435462419 258435 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435462505 882018 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435462751 165942 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1435463005 691228 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19280 j=19 j*16 i-j _xi" < 1435463006 243352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019150 < 1435463040 926334 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%191b0 j=15 j*%16 i+j _xi" < 1435463041 544239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000192fa < 1435463046 699735 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA!!! < 1435463056 530994 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1435463072 399408 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%19280 j=%19 j*16 i-j _xi" < 1435463073 133316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000190f0 < 1435463104 957958 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%190f0 j=%07 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435463105 575266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019160 < 1435463190 826813 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's what was wrong < 1435463261 273700 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's to say it was wrong < 1435463284 799951 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're wrong? how do you know this words means what you think it means? < 1435463290 6769 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it wasnt't pointing me to the right place in the romfile to edit < 1435463296 6389 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quus quus quus < 1435463334 834608 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, to the place I wanted to edit, whether wrong or right < 1435463559 118658 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%190f0 j=%11 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435463559 752461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00019200 < 1435463784 548514 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` scrip7 <<<"j>1 i=%190f0 j=%40 j*16 i+j _xi" < 1435463785 204110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000194f0 < 1435463957 54881 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435471624 193453 :password2_!~password@197.77.57.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435472737 98811 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435473436 880268 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435475946 685157 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435477466 966693 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-skhgtgmybozpliso QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435477850 315873 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yuybagblyysezlab JOIN :#esoteric < 1435479488 949612 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435479503 351508 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435481061 949385 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435481474 903949 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435481487 264093 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435482384 12935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435482384 755084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1116) <ais523> hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day < 1435482385 598650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote` < 1435482386 219038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quote`: not found < 1435482393 734757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435482394 316409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :680) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk. < 1435482395 464152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435482396 153071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :124) <alise> I love logic, especially the part where it makes no sense. < 1435482396 879255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435482397 554711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :444) <itidus20> anyway, notational systems are a function of the euclidean plane < 1435484209 761200 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435486164 809714 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435486642 792185 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435486643 534076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :998) <itidus21> :D :D oh man.. i wonder if they ever made chess variants based off of animes < 1435486645 683694 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435486646 292997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :816) <olsner> fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? <fungot> olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1435486655 361127 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435486656 51479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :981) <Bike> i feel like i should say "sexual dimorphism" winkingly and then transmute myself into a horrid fleshbeast < 1435486661 207085 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435486662 55455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :657) <shachaf> fizzie: What kind of speech recognition do you do? <shachaf> If you only need to recognize famous speeches, like Churchill or something, it should be pretty easy. < 1435486678 38307 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435486678 811455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :155) <Gregor> elliott: My university has two Poultry Science buildings. <Gregor> Two! < 1435488103 363054 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435488404 501302 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul_ < 1435488409 425579 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1435488986 295017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GERMAN14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43340&oldid=41445 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+47) 10TBS member < 1435489420 25527 :fr4nt1c!~frantic@2.239.26.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435492429 611170 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435492484 397470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unibrain14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43341 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+4398) 10A groaner. < 1435493567 654292 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435493567 918866 :oren_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435493590 127459 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, my computer finally crashed < 1435493622 88306 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking firefox < 1435495242 555130 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435496485 640574 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435497911 540525 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435498098 650296 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435498144 26628 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435499495 566403 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435499529 471448 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435500037 599728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435501240 365005 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. you too are having problems with the firefox? < 1435501938 677764 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435504413 321147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435505016 112995 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435505644 319306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1435505651 383733 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never answered me < 1435505705 707219 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1435505725 405699 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. Wednesday is a Holiday. < 1435505731 972759 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you Wednesday? < 1435505761 399197 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can wednesday after 7, and probably after 5, depending on work. < 1435505778 751542 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! then on va mercredir ça! < 1435505788 829732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we'll wednesday.) < 1435505805 891510 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game < 1435505807 517620 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's expliciter in French that a noun is verbed. English lacks purposeful inflections.) < 1435505830 275719 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least Civ 5. what do you recommend? < 1435505850 585692 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if I can get some CoD running on linux...) < 1435505878 14126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :something co-op. does borderlands 2 linux? < 1435505894 455580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i say borderlands 2 because it is humble bundle) < 1435505925 469909 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemmecheck... < 1435506013 665450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only windows and mac (and steamplay?) < 1435506041 975005 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's always portal 2 < 1435506076 957012 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have portal 2. < 1435506123 809362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also have battleblock theater, contagion, damned, don't starve together, FORCED, hero siege, PAYDAY: the heist, and sanctum. I know these are all co-op, but I don't know which are linux < 1435506141 58348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should create a new category for "linux" < 1435506226 384036 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should subscribe cedega! < 1435506259 577023 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is such a thing as cedega. < 1435506313 959756 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... according to wikipédia, there was such a thing as cedega. < 1435506354 701697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435506431 725171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, steam says battleblock theater and hero siege and borderlands 2 all run on sufficiently good linuces < 1435506459 239915 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :borderlands 2 runs on ubuntu 14.04 < 1435506598 501715 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got 15.04 on both machines here. it'll do. < 1435506778 163358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.humblebundle.com/ $1 gets you borderlands2 for linux, $7 gets you all its DLC (except the 2 biggest/most recent) < 1435506815 242009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the form of steam keys probably) < 1435506892 122444 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bought. < 1435506943 609753 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, on to lunch. I'm hungry. < 1435506966 671977 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NEUME CHICKEN < 1435507040 368721 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435507506 645802 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435507933 711332 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435508437 812384 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435508535 315937 :password2_!~password@197.77.57.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435511207 650757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sputnik 1 burned up on 4 January 1958, as it fell from orbit upon reentering Earth's atmosphere, after travelling about 70 million km (43.5 million miles) and spending 3 months in orbit.[9]" < 1435511221 531320 :password2_!~password@197.77.41.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435511222 88425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, it would have been fun if the first artificial sattelite was still up there < 1435511305 858648 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That requires active orbit maintenance. < 1435511319 970121 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435511422 198262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially for near-earth orbits, which still experience atmospheric drag. < 1435511627 867426 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a point at which no active orbit maintenance is needed? < 1435511633 110028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, at some altitude? < 1435511642 376930 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moon doesn't need to be actively maintained < 1435511691 328497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of such orbits. < 1435511723 66755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main requirement is "not being too close to earth and all the trash and air around it" < 1435511750 948868 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being massive helps a lot. < 1435511754 1893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it is precisely because of the moon that this becomes difficult < 1435511773 397746 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geosynchronous orbits need active maintenance because of tidal effects from the moon. < 1435511774 157246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :L1 is a good one though < 1435511901 288894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435511995 40326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :L4 and L5 are also nice, but farther away < 1435512606 54352 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435512616 954089 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435512646 53689 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435513096 109509 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1435513202 107220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435513405 820717 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could snag an asteroid for some heft, then it would not need mush maintenance, being large enough < 1435514239 68921 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435514743 900925 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-120 < 1435514837 519572 :password2_!~password@197.77.41.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435515435 234603 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1435515608 876447 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is that? < 1435515616 423176 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how was lunch? < 1435516351 311284 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the teleporting kiddy pool. you may end up at some random L* point with it. < 1435516360 945199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had pho! < 1435516371 920259 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I ought to redeadkey this layout one day...) < 1435516415 203684 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you lunch? < 1435516642 605736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Lisacintosh 5* 10New user account < 1435516671 971453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes the dead pool. i have just finished prandizing < 1435516704 381978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you live in a place where viet food is the easiest to get? < 1435516746 53069 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prandizing < 1435516768 306506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prandizing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435516789 573401 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. you can get your fix any day of the week, anywhere you want. < 1435516802 587722 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although they tend to be closed on Tuesday for some mysterious reasone.) < 1435516814 164321 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/e\././ < 1435516880 680312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(google the etymology of "preprandial") < 1435516923 927511 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh. tmyk... < 1435517010 334842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmyk < 1435517012 4964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk the more overfilled your brain gets. < 1435517038 631674 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i was guessing "that much you knew" for some reason < 1435517066 544715 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :akihtb. < 1435517095 520798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yylmt < 1435517128 78262 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a knowledge it helps the brain"? < 1435517133 277027 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scratches his head. “yylmt???ʼn < 1435517138 78815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ʼn/”/ < 1435517151 769402 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Knowing Is Half The Battle. < 1435517161 601682 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yours' quite good too. < 1435517183 886345 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, You Lost Me There... < 1435517191 897742 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1435517235 173232 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435518037 893601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43342&oldid=42761 5* 03Lisacintosh 5* (+4165) 10 < 1435518074 837631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43343&oldid=43342 5* 03Lisacintosh 5* (-4165) 10Undo revision 43342 by [[Special:Contributions/Lisacintosh|Lisacintosh]] ([[User talk:Lisacintosh|talk]]) < 1435518202 752289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMIL14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43344 5* 03Lisacintosh 5* (+4331) 10Created page with "SMIL (Structured and Methodic and Innovative Language) is a metadata ASCII-smileys based language. Data are only input by command line, the program just contains instructions...." < 1435518252 84998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43345&oldid=43320 5* 03Lisacintosh 5* (+11) 10Add SMIL lang < 1435518280 986051 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435519110 638792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they did make chess variants based off of anime < 1435519330 428057 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have invented a useful shell utility. Suppose you want to execute a command on a file in this directory, but you're not sure which file or the file's name. < 1435519388 432525 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah? < 1435519390 205626 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ah? < 1435519399 881069 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With my new program 'choose' you can type 'choose nano' and then it will give an interactive display of a list of files in the current directory, from which you can choose the file you want < 1435519419 478810 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point it will exec 'nano filename' < 1435519474 461887 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you filter/order by relevance, mime types and recently used? < 1435519505 609885 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not yet. I do plan on adding filters though < 1435519679 998603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435519749 317997 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION interpretative dances a hellørjan < 1435519837 279020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that what the select builtin in bash does? < 1435519854 805816 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/orenwatson/99b38d7fb2813674d530 < 1435519883 601150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: select f in ./*; do nano "$f"; break; done < 1435519883 818461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: wat < 1435519895 982361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or a bit more if you want to get nano's exit code back < 1435519909 376217 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1435519911 424843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1435519913 24255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ^ < 1435519915 533041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry < 1435519944 701507 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should merge oren, oerjan and olsner together to reduce ambiguïty hth < 1435519948 317358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: choose(){ select f in ./*; do "$@" "$f"; break; done; } < 1435519957 191241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ormera < 1435519982 846489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435519999 980247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yodels a helloily < 1435520010 378814 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's similar, but it doesn't show all the files or allow you to scroll if there are too many on screen < 1435520010 432843 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm not interested in making anything productive, but hoping it will help me learn how CPUs work, should I learn x86 assembly or x64 assembly or what? < 1435520058 515680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: learn C first < 1435520072 687697 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the basics of C I think < 1435520073 369573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is designed basically so it can do what CPUs can do < 1435520079 543596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's a good start < 1435520093 406916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is your goal learning what _modern_ CPUs can do? < 1435520095 839162 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn C/C++, buy an arduino, profit! < 1435520097 548473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, contemporary ones? < 1435520104 642876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to thirty year old cpus? < 1435520106 749891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, not sure < 1435520113 684437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1435520127 739354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I'm just asking about your goals < 1435520138 45510 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is a bit complex for a CPU, if you want to know the basics, why not learn 6502 instead? It allows you to mod NES games! < 1435520169 341125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my goal, in particular, is to learn how to use modern cpus efficiently < 1435520180 430857 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that entails learning some things about how they work, but not everything < 1435520184 687979 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435520190 791870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PART :#esoteric < 1435520204 738064 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjonas? < 1435520207 354241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My goal is to get a better understanding of what exactly goes on < 1435520229 206567 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I just wanted to do more < 1435520229 414657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a goal of learning reverse engineering, but I'm not sure how connected that is < 1435520251 886642 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to have more confusable nicks < 1435520321 97218 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it depends what you are trying to reverse engineer. reverse engineering tends to involve at least a little machine code rather than assembler < 1435520366 167508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i banned oer* before, i can do it again hth < 1435520385 60307 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oern < 1435520400 617852 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :oerly < 1435520417 511748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think i muted it < 1435520427 235350 :oerly!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh :P < 1435520428 865436 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435520434 608101 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah. then I'd nick to orjonas or something < 1435520449 550010 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah. then I'd nick to orjonas or something < 1435520454 498308 :oern!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oreo < 1435520466 485872 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does helloily count as another o-guy? < 1435520484 191070 :oreo!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :Guest33003 < 1435520492 105859 :oerly!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily < 1435520497 331256 :Guest33003!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren < 1435520529 100882 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjonas: I don't think so... I'm more of a b_joily guy. < 1435520550 688110 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_joily: ok < 1435520710 359446 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the chännel may be a little bit misbalanced hth < 1435520715 976399 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435520759 461120 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many Canadians, many Scandinavians, many o* people. < 1435520783 762859 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we are one, we just present ourself as several IRC users < 1435520810 156914 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of us one of us, gooble gobble < 1435520822 139576 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I don't think the unbalances are statistically significant < 1435520862 985632 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the unbalances you mentioned at least < 1435520875 185174 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel may have a lot of crazy esolangers or < 1435520883 215087 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1435520976 497494 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could say the channel isn't more unbalanced than <insert favourite gaming example here> < 1435521058 64156 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION inserts a hot dog into the favourite gaming example < 1435521256 934624 :oerjonas!~x@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435522536 996715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know x86 (especially the modern one) is too complicated, 6502 is better you can not only to modify NES game but you can make up your own NES/Famicom game too < 1435522890 845214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS is the classic architecture for teaching computer architecture and CPU design etc., although I'm not entirely sure why. < 1435522901 765678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just tradition. < 1435523094 637915 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435523286 161133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like complexity, it means I can keep reading more without getting bored < 1435523518 420624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NMOS 6502 also has several unofficial opcodes though, some of them can be useful < 1435523689 145838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famizork currently uses ARR twice, ANC 22 times, AXS three times, LAX ten times, SAX once, and DCP once. < 1435523820 414754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as unofficial NOPs to set breakpoints < 1435523972 351883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spots a live fizzie  < 1435524020 347456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a dead fungot < 1435524484 612987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435524969 225882 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :oren_ finds bugs. | Sir Fungellot does not fnord. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1435525151 348232 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435525442 315290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was kind of not so well, and then on vacation in Scotland. < 1435525496 912838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also there was no obvious "canary.orig" file to remove, although I got these vague recollections of maybe making canary a directory causing some breakage like this earlier. I'll try to have a look at *some* point. < 1435525528 21873 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: hey there < 1435525528 589200 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: with you you can last for up to thirty as well, i think...?" " unfortunately, in a desperate that any man who can," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," shouted ford. " i don't want to go to work at," and he turned. " but," he added, " i'l < 1435525563 347010 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mistrusts fnordbot < 1435525563 821519 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: counterpoint the..." the fact that he had become. what mr prosser, " hadn't even begun to speculate," he continued, " you just let the machines began to think that the chances of getting picked. all in all it was extremely fortunate that at all, ford?" " well you see," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fai < 1435525572 970582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: you aren't fungot. < 1435525573 288808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hm there was someone claiming that the canary.orig directory would exist if the repository had _ever_ had a canary directory with files in it. < 1435525573 394977 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: of work on ford at all. " i think you ought to be telling us?" ford looked at a piece. within a few short vog years every last vogon had migrated to the megabrantis cluster, the political economy. deep in the heart of a dark screen, just under five years, but you will when i was a kid you just saved a lot. " so all i have to do in order to find this wretched,", he said, " you can't keep us out!" " what the hell am, brain < 1435525591 181777 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have fizzie's language models < 1435525617 451401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did put fungot online too. < 1435525617 557952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, it's just a poor substitute < 1435525621 78277 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435525624 885922 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prods fnordbot. prod prod prod. < 1435525625 110176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it did drop off *again*. < 1435525625 355325 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pour spirit into a lifestyle," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendous difficulty in finding the floor. " what," said trillian, " but those of finely calculated the cumulative effect is this? " who said that?" " try to explain to her to know that in to the reader's digest. glad you could make it a paying proposition. ford would have to go. " i don't want to go to work at," and he turned. " but," he added, " i'll ha < 1435525634 237749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think fnordbot may secretly be a vogon. prepare to be evaporated. < 1435525634 774114 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which he had souped up into a pretty neat." the narrower streets he would often gatecrash university of maximegalon, who pursued a brilliant marble-sanded beaches of santraginus v, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it. " yeah," he said to a small lump of green and blue. " so," said ford, " the vogons run the ship, the dentrassis. he would have a nice relaxed day, do you want to go to work at," and he t < 1435525693 775310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wouldn't like being evaporated. it sounds nasty. < 1435525697 155649 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, sleep... < 1435525698 718290 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues prodding fnordbot < 1435525699 182000 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: much to themselves, who needs a big wide sounding name like... it's pretty low," continued ford. pretty crazy, zaphod," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's what parents tell their kids at school nicknamed him ix, which in the language. to tremendous difficulty in finding the floor. " what," said trillian, " but those of finely calculated the cumulative effect is this? " the universe to it," he shout < 1435525700 283866 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435525705 411614 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne nuint-e! < 1435525715 837438 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you slay fnordbot? < 1435525716 301778 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: with at least," he added, " i'll have you hung, huge, heavy, steady in the sky a huge green catalogue to keep us out!" " what the hell am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take you to the bridge at that, i can tell." " the mice were furious." " try to explain to her to know that in to the reader's digest. glad you could make it a paying proposition.," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at < 1435525716 831536 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and wait 10 min for the generic class names and what was the fnord pretty good compared to my fnord above) < 1435525756 73869 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy to find ssh key... feel free to kick fnordbot < 1435525756 448669 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e:, then a vast crescent sliced into the glass, every sheet of board." ( " a voice from ancient magrathea! " in a few seconds," he continued, " you just let the machines began to think that the chances of getting picked. a towel, it says, " is big. you must come with me?" said ford, " he was a hell of a lot. " so all i have to do in order to find this wretched,", he said at last, " i don't know," said the vogon guard. " er, < 1435525760 456732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: prepare to be genericified, you vaporating vogon! < 1435525760 937623 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: over a billion and six people in the galaxy, a device which made this starship, one day, a student at the university of maximegalon, who pursued a brilliant marble-sanded beaches of santraginus v, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it. " yeah," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine,", he said, " you can't keep us out!" " what the hell < 1435525770 798867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1435525770 852718 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1435525771 33735 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: irc* < 1435525822 216023 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck color constancy < 1435525853 300802 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: eh? < 1435525866 853919 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it messes with my brain < 1435526470 709881 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435526780 820108 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435527022 810383 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435527076 380055 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that illusion with the shaded checkerboard and stuff? < 1435527099 511297 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1435527816 55986 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435529930 642825 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1435529930 911180 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1435529930 964908 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435531067 122462 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1435531707 855207 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435533925 648665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435534086 350148 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435534438 784316 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435534438 838130 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1435534438 838228 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435535135 509204 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c84f:a0cc:fff1:fe26 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435536735 461876 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435537787 4459 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435538313 786974 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435538860 676932 :fr4nt1c!~frantic@2.239.26.118 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435540818 453248 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435541597 330768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SHELVE CHICKEN < 1435542868 372568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Why does TIS-100 make my cursor blink? < 1435542871 897977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. annoying tdnh < 1435542932 727743 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in the 80s you didn't get to choose, so < 1435543183 448363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mouse cursor is blinking. < 1435543188 981745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when I switch focus away from the game. < 1435543489 631438 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1435543493 909611 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't do that for me < 1435543931 713578 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435544471 487070 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435544843 537899 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435545763 478572 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435547127 493392 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-157-58.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435547951 86052 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435548222 939328 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435550859 860649 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net NICK :|f`-`|f < 1435551270 673006 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wonder if you could write an operating system kernel in Rust. < 1435551276 947329 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard could it be? < 1435551294 891903 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two primary things I'm worried about. < 1435551305 296455 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, I don't know if it's feasible to write Rust code that doesn't make any system calls. < 1435551319 854056 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kernel doesn't get to make system calls. Not allowed. < 1435551346 105841 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second, I don't know how to get the compiler to produce output in the correct format. < 1435551763 252442 :password2!~password@197.77.41.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435554365 959535 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435554951 186556 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-157-58.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435555866 78125 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435555903 467990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ newsham ? gazspaczo < 1435555904 300599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: gazspaczo iz a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1435556148 459700 :password2!~password@197.77.41.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435556371 452042 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435557338 672510 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1435557772 18176 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435558257 895369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Theorem 1. For any conventional third-generation computer, an effective VMM may be constructed if the set of sensitive instructions for that computer is a subset of the set of privileged instructions. < 1435558257 982982 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1435558270 484952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like the sort of thing that would be difficult to add retroactively < 1435558360 906710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (magic, magic 1 2 3) < 1435558362 932322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0,3) < 1435558368 130361 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t magic < 1435558369 451561 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slack a => a < 1435558391 485305 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 1 < 1435558393 307153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435558394 441424 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 2 < 1435558396 312869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435558402 170498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 5 0 < 1435558404 7793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1435558411 174751 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1435558417 862190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not v. magic < 1435558418 186650 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::src magic < 1435558440 727415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I was expecting. A dead dove, maybe. < 1435558476 256862 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work < 1435558491 983340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t magic 1 < 1435558493 222172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slack t => t < 1435558493 646297 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 'a' 'b' < 1435558495 144358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1435558502 802555 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic undefined < 1435558504 525990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435558517 440382 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, t is always int? < 1435558543 9640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or x -> Int or x -> y -> Int < 1435558546 449758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 1 'a < 1435558547 884640 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Syntax error on 'a < 1435558547 990789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell < 1435558548 44526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the Template Haskell quotation 'a < 1435558548 44573 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic 1 'a' < 1435558549 687221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1435558558 782477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :t is never Int < 1435558627 901785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + magic < 1435558629 850663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435558646 299790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,magic] < 1435558647 979150 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0] < 1435558650 304345 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['1',magic] < 1435558651 602675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Slack Char) arising from a use of ‘magic’ < 1435558651 656618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: magic < 1435558651 748123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: ['1', magic] < 1435558662 143715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [1,magic] < 1435558663 567000 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slack t => [t] < 1435558684 398394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integer? < 1435558696 153951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [1::Int,magic] < 1435558697 714822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Slack Int) arising from a use of ‘magic’ < 1435558697 768695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: magic < 1435558697 768744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: [1 :: Int, magic] < 1435558701 573271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [1::Integer,magic] < 1435558701 893628 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> magic :: Integer -- hth < 1435558703 48834 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Integer] < 1435558703 564652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1435558709 963171 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (magic 1) `mod` (magic 1 2 3) < 1435558711 659111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435561313 742543 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435561724 891588 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> printf "%d" (magic 'A') < 1435561726 267432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1435561726 321344 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M854909516733692471611434’ < 1435561726 321464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1435563052 844811 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435563885 615148 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-114.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435563926 973239 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-114.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1435563927 66087 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435564051 822033 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435566419 784096 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435567632 774846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435567801 5755 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435567886 958134 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435567899 807682 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435568307 772479 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435569311 369231 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type magic < 1435569312 272057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slack a => a < 1435569315 528422 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type Slack < 1435569316 530056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘Slack’ < 1435569316 583862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant variable ‘slack’ (line 152) < 1435569319 583216 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@info Slack < 1435569319 640866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slack < 1435569349 447894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 :: Slack Integer) < 1435569351 163111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected a type, but ‘Slack Integer’ has kind ‘Constraint’ < 1435569351 217162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an expression type signature: Slack Integer < 1435569351 271041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: (5 :: Slack Integer) < 1435569953 652837 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435570276 734420 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435572532 425108 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435572552 662064 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435573826 309353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1435574038 63930 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435574634 277971 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435575724 776465 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435576251 255543 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435576552 998437 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435579282 40548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1435579841 107580 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435580158 339580 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yuybagblyysezlab QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435580195 554822 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435580547 414729 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435580684 42211 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435581218 372245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435581508 887148 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1435582014 650406 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1435582123 60724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* 10New user account < 1435582306 835928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at new wiki nick suspiciously < 1435582494 205489 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rasterfahndung - computer-aided search for wanted persons whereby the data of a large number of people are checked against existing data in a database < 1435582501 130503 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how leo translates Rasterfahndung < 1435582569 825733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea of context < 1435582598 776218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :de.wikipedia to the rescue < 1435582689 334955 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435582774 437082 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dragnet investigation" seems to be another translation < 1435582863 805304 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A dragnet is any system of coordinated measures for apprehending criminals or suspects; including road barricades and traffic stops, widespread DNA tests, and general increased police alertness." < 1435582885 707619 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Rasterfahndung doesn't really involve road blocks or the like < 1435582891 15708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether ... right < 1435582896 242377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed more limited. < 1435582908 104318 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use it for computer-assisted searching through databases < 1435582920 571789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also doesn't have the stamina to read that much in german. < 1435582946 715025 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a huge database of people < 1435582946 818013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :german word of the year in 1980 < 1435582965 848507 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are looking for a person that has certain traits (like uhm scar over left eye) < 1435582972 251420 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you check that against this huge database of people < 1435583042 762750 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only have a "profile" of the criminal < 1435583046 581024 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is usually very vague < 1435583185 129441 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the controversy is of course, that by doing that you suspect every person in that database to be a criminal < 1435583208 476621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is contrary to presumption of innocence < 1435583252 17122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1435583254 97797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :every person that comes out of this search is a "suspect until proven that he's innocent" < 1435583304 909491 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though you have no indication to suspect him except that he's 50-60, recently immigrated from russia and owns a business < 1435583398 369166 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fully get that, though. < 1435583465 917076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really pro surveillance of the public though < 1435583601 128023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but collecting every persons DNA at birth has some advantages :) < 1435583640 149053 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. You can charge for health insurance much more accurately. < 1435583677 120312 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that would be against what they are for. < 1435583684 395987 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435583705 250206 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not your fault that you have a higher likelihood of getting cancer than somebody else < 1435583709 262683 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435583716 228285 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so making you pay more for that increased risk isn't "social". < 1435583818 377108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... it will be hard to determine what exactly is one's fault and what not < 1435583848 525418 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the social system works by "healthy people" paying for "sick people" < 1435583862 137354 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "healthy people" paying for themselves and "sick peopel" paying for themselves < 1435583890 140359 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that people that drink and smoke don't have to pay more than those who don't. < 1435583911 641655 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falling down the stairs drunk is technically your fault, so why do I have to pay for that? < 1435583935 716176 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The effects of alcohol are well known and despite this knowledge you chose to drink < 1435583949 798490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would have expected smokers to pay more, these days. < 1435583952 405502 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which indicates that you were ok taking the risks and therefore have a higher responsibility. < 1435583969 817090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea if they do, i'm sitting safely here in single payer country < 1435584006 915392 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans are stupid anyway. < 1435584019 809826 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going on a vandalism streak because their favorite ice hockey team lost in a game < 1435584033 739662 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that would be in any way a.) change the outcome b.) make sense c.) do good < 1435584077 937583 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet everybody wonders why there's war going on in the world. < 1435584112 896797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm do teams get punished for that sort of thing? i recall racist remarks by supporters at football matches tends to < 1435584126 687713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe not outside arena stuff < 1435584133 954650 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They get punished for it sometimes, yes. < 1435584137 167624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "ghost matches" < 1435584162 659347 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are matches that are played without any audience. < 1435584184 44733 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usually the teams/clubs deny responsibility < 1435584203 16902 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes sense somehow because it's not really their fault that some people do stupid things after a match. < 1435584205 25055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling ghost match seemed to turn up something else, something about gambling fraud < 1435584221 325890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Geisterspiel and I took the liberty to translate it as "ghost match" < 1435584224 757698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1435584252 395846 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behind_closed_doors_%28sport%29 < 1435584265 278246 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geisterspiel) < 1435584283 186682 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435584309 980636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<mroman_> Yet everybody wonders why there's war going on in the world. <-- you know, if we could make _only_ the stupid people fight... < 1435584360 465422 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fight as in war? < 1435584363 974057 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or as in hooligans? < 1435584371 926137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :war was the thought < 1435584390 646328 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if someone stupid attacks you your choices are pretty limited < 1435584393 384780 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :run away or fight back < 1435584401 903697 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the bad part < 1435584420 759261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what i mean is, the stupid people usually force a lot of others to fight for them. < 1435584429 910632 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although attacking someone to steal resources isn't technically stupid < 1435584435 279140 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's selfish :) < 1435584467 350015 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you count some forms of selfishness as stupid < 1435584470 964126 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I would) < 1435584473 121012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid in the socratic sense < 1435584524 355296 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought people that take the bible literally are somewhat stupid < 1435584534 69573 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I'm reading a book about the history and background of the bible < 1435584534 625874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the point of military alliances is pretty much make sure that attacking you _is_ stupid, i guess. < 1435584539 886380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+to < 1435584549 435118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1435584553 191843 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435584566 940475 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good strategy to scare people out of attacking you < 1435584599 614957 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what nukes are for I guess. < 1435584612 738985 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bio-weapons < 1435584656 803770 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just say "Well, if you attack me I'll release this virus into the wild. It'll do a lot of damage to other countries as well but that's on you!" < 1435584734 155507 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and to secure resources. < 1435584735 528509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as usual, the problem is the people crazy enough to do it anyway < 1435584752 106473 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trades. < 1435584755 162818 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as access to oil or so < 1435584761 86149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1435584795 215418 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why China protects North-Korea < 1435584823 58138 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they are trading certain things that benefit both < 1435584845 80034 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's just historic. < 1435584909 555222 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Seems they use it for military purposes as well < 1435584917 638308 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since South Korea and the US go hand in hand. < 1435584932 862957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the general assumption was "because if it collapses, things will get really ugly across the border" < 1435584968 107344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, china has a lot of trade with south korea these days, so that border too < 1435584979 324069 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435584991 90067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, not even south korea wants north korea to collapse these days < 1435585003 938525 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not. < 1435585008 371055 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would financially ruin them. < 1435585060 614609 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or it will become a humanitarian disaster < 1435585101 327786 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might actually be better for SK if NK stays independent, poor and peaceful < 1435585133 535823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see why the "poor" is necessary. they could change to a more chinese model. < 1435585145 339848 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1435585155 44241 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they would merge now, it would cost a ton < 1435585202 78847 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally they would become democratic and remain largeley independent but become more and more open < 1435585227 583356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that takes decades < 1435585279 271576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was one of the strategies back in uhm < 1435585280 583525 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1970? < 1435585322 360150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the problem is too many people in north korea have blood on their hands so a non-ugly direct transition to democracy is implausible. < 1435585346 723430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1435585356 228426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435585384 919275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'m also suspecting china has the same problem, to a lesser degree < 1435585394 771218 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But China is democratic? < 1435585402 350257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat < 1435585414 754698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Officially < 1435585429 30917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort-of democratic, but the government gets to choose which candidates are allowed to run < 1435585452 17528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't count unless you have freedom of expression enough that the dirty laundry that eventually needs to be brought out, can be < 1435585461 641720 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some sort of elections < 1435585473 607731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...north korea also has elections hth < 1435585482 816569 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly haven't really looked that much into china's politics < 1435585488 812247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do that. < 1435585497 861992 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1435585500 783964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Democratic centralism" < 1435585507 682509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even have a few tiny minority parties < 1435585532 507906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both almost indinguishable from the state party, but still. < 1435585589 445981 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the Local's People Congress < 1435585593 669249 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is directly elected somehow < 1435585594 149901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a direct comparison, freedom of expression is more important than democracy, i think. < 1435585645 223596 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435585656 969406 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Independent candidates are strongly discouraged and face government intervention in their campaigns." :D < 1435585660 416986 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1435585682 474628 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. we had elections all the time even way back, if you count elections where you have only once option to tick and your vote is public. < 1435585712 857567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :public just in case you forgot to tick, i take < 1435585763 294077 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435585763 347944 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1435585763 347987 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435585787 597021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the opposite trick: elections where you can vote for anyone and you don't face retribution depending on your choice and the votes are secret, but they're so secret even the aggregate results are not public or used for any decision, the government just makes up results without counting the votes. < 1435585808 182996 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435585821 618060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435585853 900259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that second trick was never fashionable here though. < 1435585927 545696 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It helps to use a very complicated election system to disguise this scheme. < 1435585930 400145 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the night vale electoral system is the ideal system < 1435585931 851508 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, that's just democracy. < 1435586022 877213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: here in the US conttol of elections is handed over to hackers and voting machine manufacturers < 1435586032 962453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :control < 1435586070 284274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the UK's method of counting ballots < 1435586077 620246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty hard to interfere with < 1435586083 491069 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they figure said hackers and manufacturers couls just as easily favor either candidate, so it all comes out in the wash < 1435586094 789700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could < 1435586380 344803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43346&oldid=43249 5* 03188.238.248.144 5* (+124) 10/* Mathematics */ < 1435586835 187601 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435587089 11115 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435587288 149047 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle JOIN :#esoteric < 1435587823 32738 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.21.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435587884 653020 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.21.30 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1435587954 323590 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-30-21.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1435588247 869179 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just toss a toin < 1435588260 994941 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1435588268 738097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voting can be seen as a random process < 1435588273 884611 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :People randomly select who wins < 1435588282 315717 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not just toss a freaking coin and save millions of dollars < 1435588363 739998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote random elephant < 1435588372 888460 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it's random of course, but it's hard to determine the probabilities in any way that many people would find as satisfying or fair < 1435588379 494442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :296) <elliott> AV is better than first-past-the-post, like every voting system apart from the Random Elephant Stomping method < 1435588380 867445 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, voting isn't meant to be purely random < 1435588395 530050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: also, there's some science fiction story about this, isn't there? < 1435588425 108632 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coins are fair. < 1435588430 113001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the only fair voting mechanism known to be completely immune to tactical voting is to count all the votes, then pick a candidate with probability equal to the proportion of the votes they got < 1435588430 635958 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's usually around 50:50 chance < 1435588443 730683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t magic < 1435588444 809331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘magic’ < 1435588464 972612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some other functions of the number of votes work as well as identity, but identity's the easiest to prove < 1435588475 495208 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435588491 227028 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It is to an observer, or isn't it. < 1435588496 15132 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's not random. < 1435588508 693850 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for an outside obverser it's random-ish. < 1435588512 402175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*observer < 1435588550 291318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it gets more complicated when you want to elect not one candidate, but a whole parliment of them < 1435588565 118505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question though remains if it would matter much if it *were* random < 1435588574 614371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I actually came up with a really good voting method for that < 1435588586 645563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get each candidate to choose a location in the country at which they'll stand (just a single point) < 1435588599 26650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :candidates can form parties if they wish < 1435588599 643965 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just too much of an existential nihilist. < 1435588606 896491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people vote for parties < 1435588620 63631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: found it, the story is "Franchise" by Isaac Asimov < 1435588625 587378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.asimovreviews.net/Stories/Story088.html < 1435588639 992265 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Well, if it is going to be random, you need to choose the candidates randomly from the populationtoo < 1435588648 369933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you calculate a number n of votes that each seat is "worth" such that if a party gets jn votes, it gets j seats in parliament; n is as low as possible without exceeding parliament's capacity < 1435588656 284342 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Sounds like a cool plot. < 1435588665 226963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the candidates you pick from each party are determined by where their highest concentrations of votes were < 1435588669 935528 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435588673 186110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(haven't worked out the details of that) < 1435588701 302846 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: people vote for candidates < 1435588714 510839 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the machine determines the winner randomly from the candidates < 1435588730 230608 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the congress/parliament recommends candidates < 1435588734 160793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't you have to determine goals too, as well as a method? < 1435588734 401577 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way is fine < 1435588743 689 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :congress/parliament recommending candidates is probably cheaper < 1435588743 103216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you form constituencies such that each elected member has their own consitutency, and constituencies from the same party don't overlap but from different parties do; each party's constituencies collectively cover the whole country < 1435588746 187630 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd recommend that < 1435588746 334636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, the problem is < 1435588750 704813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: That could lead to disastrous results < 1435588759 405115 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if someone like Nigel Farage becomes the head of government < 1435588764 227517 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Who's that? < 1435588767 653101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you vote in an election, you might even vote for the winning side, but a candidate from the losing side wins your constituency < 1435588787 574553 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage < 1435588793 349188 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: UK independence party guy < 1435588802 229873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any system where each constituency has only one voter, I can contact my MP and complain about a law that's going through < 1435588816 836461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they can't do anything about it because they're on the opposition and so were going to vote against anyway < 1435588852 269706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you choose candidates from the population at random, you have a smaller chance of someone like Nigel Farage getting into a position of power < 1435588873 168704 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some random guy isn't a good politician < 1435588885 334758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choosing one randomly from a congress/parliament makes more sense < 1435588904 436267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally the chosen person doesn't have "full power" < 1435588913 731706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that totally sounds like http://www.xkcd.com/977/ "You think we wouldn't have so many problems if we'd just elect _normal_ people to Congress instead of Politicians." < 1435588921 559587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like < 1435588927 359147 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people vote people into congress < 1435588940 5967 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you select randomly who's the president < 1435588969 805000 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like um 50 people < 1435588976 550727 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including the president) < 1435588980 722635 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the president has 20 votes < 1435588985 831394 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in total there are 69 votes < 1435589005 132175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1435589007 167959 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1435589021 973079 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the swiss system anyway < 1435589038 326141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you only elect 50 people, and of those, only 10 actually show up in the parliment most days, then the president can do anything < 1435589040 103605 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people vote people that vote for the Bundesrat and the President < 1435589111 202000 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435589129 669987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't the Swiss have a referendum for everything that's actually important? < 1435589135 389097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do. < 1435589141 244187 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds good < 1435589172 361157 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435589180 396868 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1435589180 450744 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435589189 432852 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the National- and Ständerat which vote for the 7 Bundesräte < 1435589216 503345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Räte also make laws and stuff < 1435589231 451305 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can interveine with referendums if necessary < 1435589234 44783 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good systems < 1435589248 890319 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can do stuff on their own as long as they don't mess up too much < 1435589256 234159 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they do you have some way of intervention < 1435589281 372187 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you want to change something you can use the Volksinitiative < 1435589336 458918 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I think it's a near-perfect system as far as democracy goes < 1435589345 227630 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very democratic but not overly democratic < 1435589362 284517 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(overly democratic meaning people have to vote for everything, which is completely unpractical) < 1435589410 773987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435589422 234033 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the downside of this system is of course, that you can vote for things like "we want no foreigners" < 1435589426 652294 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it passes, that's the way it is < 1435589443 745811 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :democracy doesn't imply humanity. < 1435589471 564791 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when people think that. < 1435589488 60031 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just not true. < 1435589518 606993 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435589635 725543 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Unfortunately, we don't have a machine that spews out perfect morally-good dictators < 1435589651 72833 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a perfect dictator. < 1435589670 65353 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just shoot everybody who's not on my side. < 1435589683 557952 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then all votes will be correct. < 1435589700 498793 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, obviously I wouldn't shoot everybody who's not on my side < 1435589716 725666 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the US would think I oppress my people < 1435589720 395711 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that it's an unfair system < 1435589749 107200 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is to be a "social dictator" < 1435589765 997858 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some ground-rules like uhm "religions have to live together" < 1435589772 896697 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everybody who has a problem with that will be shot. < 1435589798 355109 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also every criminal will be shot. < 1435589800 911669 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1435589811 726568 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want criminals in my social country. < 1435589848 400021 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you vandalise public property after an ice hockey match you will definitely be shot < 1435589868 103844 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you beat up a random person you'll be shot < 1435589886 908897 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it "Peace by Force" < 1435589931 165822 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435589943 706016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is - in general - that a single person can do a lot of harm to lots of other persons. < 1435589950 238080 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like if you live in a flat with flat mates < 1435589976 141265 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 29 of the people you live with always clean up their dirt but one makes everything dirty on purpose < 1435589982 267216 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole flat-experience will suck < 1435590010 390133 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's no solution to that problem other than to get rid of that person who doesn't cooperate < 1435590055 706433 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's really "a truth". < 1435590089 155454 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power of someone not cooperating is much higher than the power of others. < 1435590103 238784 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why society fails. < 1435590127 164534 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... not fails but is flawed the way it has to be < 1435590164 400360 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435590479 986373 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there, you have 29 people who can clean up dirt, but only clean their own. < 1435590480 192650 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason they don't clean up the one's guy's dirt just to have a cleaner flat to live in is that they see this as attracting freeloaders. < 1435590545 623544 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which it does, but still I think it should be taken into consideration as a factor. < 1435590559 448391 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435590635 997447 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing with having such harsh laws is that it gives enforcers and loxal beurocrats a lot of power to get people killed. < 1435590639 414158 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello peoples < 1435590648 886143 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi hppavillion < 1435590656 703075 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1435590746 780358 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR MARKUP < 1435590748 402534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435590821 916018 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523 < 1435590826 844632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435590902 756212 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out how to make an esoteric Befunge-style Markup language < 1435590904 611526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43347&oldid=41901 5* 03107.77.85.48 5* (+31) 10EsoMULang Category < 1435590941 413049 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1435590943 689807 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't logged in < 1435591121 839720 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1435591136 735119 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a Turing-complete Markup Languag < 1435591136 837956 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1435591137 285880 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see that every day < 1435591159 733350 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435591259 42323 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435591387 632117 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435591400 318336 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1435591407 140622 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435591661 331101 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: That's true. < 1435591678 880499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fact is still, that one person can significantly ruin the other 29 people's live < 1435591682 507613 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he can do so very easily < 1435591709 903690 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or somebody who rapes one person a month < 1435591719 454459 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can make a lot of people's live worse < 1435591742 568469 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :one single person can have a much higher negativ impact than many people can have a positive impact. < 1435591851 139714 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1435591867 150563 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435592108 469241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435592726 95529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435593653 308376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1435594452 550984 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, bit I don't see how a dictator is any better at solving that problem than mob rule. < 1435594522 203660 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus there's other ways in which it takes only one person to make a positive impact. < 1435594611 922573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dictatorship would work, it's just hard to figure out who should be the dictator that would make it work < 1435594623 534152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work for most people chosen as a dictator < 1435594740 833594 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could work, but I don't see how it'd be ideal. < 1435594805 223039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435594823 759064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435594960 578846 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-30-21.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435595804 346736 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435595913 628135 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435596022 359632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435596083 951197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435596353 132591 :password2!~password@197.77.26.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435596368 976239 :password2!~password@197.77.26.34 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1435596415 700041 :password2!~password@197.77.26.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435596525 137107 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435596646 852465 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-standing dictatorships, such as Singapore. < 1435596656 573461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435596769 659517 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dictatorships are easy < 1435596774 195573 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Vetinari x Vimes. done < 1435596940 25757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435597016 444701 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have a Vetinari or Vimes < 1435597132 730767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: how do you know? Vimes has worked on an important mission in incognito at least once. < 1435597152 236140 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435597428 293316 :hppavilion1!6b4d5530@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.85.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435597800 783163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435597850 671577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435597897 775638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435597990 735211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435598821 310207 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1435599035 499960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435599075 804660 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435599079 961563 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1435599080 15386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435599649 614216 :password2!~password@197.77.26.34 NICK :password3 < 1435599705 995887 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435599755 341697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435599823 715513 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435599855 81869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435600036 910106 :password3!~password@197.77.26.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435600345 985000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435600651 109118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435601286 151048 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435601767 143204 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435602516 400080 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435602517 836700 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435602894 596728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 992 < 1435602895 457937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 992: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1435603188 780840 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435603197 714009 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435603267 309161 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435603294 306040 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435603343 926299 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-101-158.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435603838 62587 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1435603909 817578 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435604099 553379 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1435605157 840661 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435605209 715396 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1435605470 710879 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435605540 475148 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435605761 802027 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435606264 136748 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lirael < 1435606274 411453 :lirael!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435607308 698146 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435607460 690895 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435607472 814476 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1435607482 820136 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1435607492 770436 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435607615 437100 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435607868 608956 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435607910 984608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435607915 29279 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435607922 645252 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1435608004 314255 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435609962 910823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435609975 331853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435610567 514310 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435610654 567590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435611400 308657 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435611637 37024 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1435611748 208579 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435611997 478151 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435612203 864993 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435613165 858533 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435613557 888267 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435613573 230000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is fizzie tdnh < 1435613765 835732 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1435613983 494583 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435613984 57889 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1435613985 89859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1435613992 897298 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1435614067 393573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett does not help < 1435614079 103273 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435614172 234170 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-227.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435614197 183034 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, time to start working on this operating system. < 1435614206 59046 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This kernel, rather. < 1435614214 471544 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Written, of course, in Rust. < 1435614412 521075 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-226.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435614506 716044 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I have a file called libkernel.so. < 1435614648 477409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435615436 546215 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435615669 487558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyliob < 1435615720 539997 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonajreour! < 1435615763 535061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi y'all < 1435615808 305129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :llewerafahcahs < 1435615836 953341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435615862 57083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves shachaf to ponder < 1435615877 836307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it means something like shachaf are well < 1435615883 583152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what do wells have to do with it < 1435615895 645179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to dig deeper hth < 1435615927 252382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you pondering what i'm pondering? < 1435615927 306177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can I do for fun, Pinky? That's it! I'll send several < 1435615927 359928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bills to Senate for ratification, then veto them all! < 1435615941 985741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435615947 729699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky are you pondering what i'm pondering? < 1435615947 783522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Brain, but don't you need a swimming pool to play Marco Polo? < 1435615994 634594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help < 1435616083 595966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a uaetnamtrop hth < 1435616146 95770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the contortions you're observing are oerjan trying to be helpful without actually giving a straight answer < 1435616163 15847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1435616178 77431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe trying to give a straight answer without actually being helpful < 1435616179 687937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell < 1435616193 333000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what happened to saying hi < 1435616208 947839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: generally in our channel at least one letter is shared between the words hth < 1435616224 591748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: saying hi is so 2013 < 1435616239 669508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes yes i understood < 1435616243 960276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't get it < 1435616251 745387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word usually means the opposite of hi < 1435616258 439864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you hinting that i should leave or that you're leaving < 1435616265 995226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it's written backwards hth < 1435616328 370576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: can you mapole some sense into oerjan twh < 1435616335 29030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just watch the red dwarf "backwards" episode, that should make everything clear hth < 1435616398 204805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :experience shows that beating sense into me only works very temporarily hth < 1435616428 355697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this also applies to admonitions) < 1435616576 836750 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't mind if I do. < 1435616590 212488 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION elopams oerjan < 1435616618 884156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION temporarily turns into an absolute jerk < 1435616632 454833 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAH! < 1435616641 154545 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapole mapole mapole. "ABORT! ABORT!" < 1435616659 651442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mapole double negation < 1435616676 632235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, reversing the mapolarity < 1435616717 837423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<GUIL> I think I have it. A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself. <ROS> Or just as mad. <GUIL> Or just as mad. <ROS> And he does both. <GUIL> So there are you. <ROS> Stark raving sane. < 1435616767 874268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should i take advice from dead people tmns < 1435616780 446371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmns < 1435616781 223707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmns? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435616792 15062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that makes no sense < 1435616798 708716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tmns makes no sense. < 1435616798 962985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be distinguished from tmnh, that might not help < 1435616801 469338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tmn': tmns makes no sense. < 1435616808 53062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hm < 1435616827 927273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/tmn{,s} < 1435616829 910506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435616900 704278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tmnh stands for teenage mutant ninja hths. < 1435616902 469429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tmnh': tmnh stands for teenage mutant ninja hths. < 1435616906 808280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1435616912 895437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435616918 783788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should fix `learn command don't remove the "s" it can cause problems < 1435616960 751692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no it's a feature so you can look up either singular or plural. < 1435617004 575051 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmns < 1435617005 332145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmns makes no sense. < 1435617012 618163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't even the way to do plurals though, it is oversimply, and just because end with "s" doesn't make it a plural either < 1435617036 850642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the problem is there is no regular rule in more complicated cases < 1435617054 811791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you have to do it manually instead < 1435617055 223745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if everyone just used le/rn < 1435617057 24621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a heuristic rule, most of the time it works right. < 1435617076 181143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it doesn't, but that would be the case the other way too. < 1435617088 147629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is a more complicated algorithm that work better to convert singular to plurals; other way around don't work so well at all < 1435617143 177666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then we'd have to rename all the wisdoms. < 1435617145 513609 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with a database you won't be able to tell if the word is already in plural format or not, and if so, what the proper singular form is. < 1435617156 683797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would break for uncountable nouns. < 1435617183 557775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not meant to be perfect. < 1435617193 926291 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should be able to tell us if a word is singular, dual or plural. < 1435617208 581505 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just my luck. Sir Fungellot is still MIA... < 1435617230 946570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, `learn attempts to reduce the chance i need to fix up other people's mistakes. < 1435618009 434296 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PHOTOGENIC CHICKEN < 1435618297 862518 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435618403 671892 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just gonna, like, assume that rustc is producing code that can run on bare metal. < 1435618480 227548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not necessarily be good for the metal. < 1435618772 467269 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1435620115 355366 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435620263 225050 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435620599 151797 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435620624 282362 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435620686 875984 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1435620937 104286 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435622032 371164 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. I have a feeling that generally you can't or shouldn't use a linker on .so files. < 1435622174 937724 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435622630 223911 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435622986 49938 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arright, now rustc is giving me a .a file instead of a .so file. < 1435623036 824670 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the linker complains that it can't find the boot_main symbol, and sure enough, there's no boot_main symbol inside the kernel.o in the .a file. < 1435623545 602109 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooo. I think I probably got it to find boot_main, because now it's outputting too many error messages to fit in my backscroll. < 1435624708 555623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom tdnh < 1435624716 764698 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glumgot/glumgot is not a particularly bad swear word, but is still disquieting. < 1435625620 15840 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1435625621 198984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1435625623 768595 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435625624 924831 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flagpole/A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top. < 1435625631 681257 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1435625633 399382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1435625655 208590 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thwackamacallit < 1435625655 991995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. < 1435625661 521117 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whatchamacallit < 1435625662 179336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatchamacallit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435625689 702971 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn whatchamacallit/A whatchamacallit is like a thwackamacallit, but less painful. < 1435625693 669915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «whatchamacallit» < 1435625967 115312 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435626481 548924 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435626690 178902 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435626697 58377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom dnh < 1435626699 969375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot/Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1435626725 461286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: too much symmetry tdnh < 1435626772 236572 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "is like" is a symmetric relation, and "more" and "less" are inverse relations. < 1435626800 7323 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, last night I think I was thinking about... the... category of commutative monoids? < 1435626828 764454 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that category, the sum and the product are the same thing, right? < 1435627162 388406 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627224 857611 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1435627302 654638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1435627648 507132 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627658 236864 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627839 945816 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435628375 155923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435628634 931009 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was productive day... spent half the day struggling to get a VPN to connect < 1435628686 405292 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've all been there oren. < 1435628696 934443 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent my entire Tuesday trying to get an LED to turn on. < 1435628971 829739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried turning it off and on again? < 1435628989 73716 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435629068 557457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well eventually it worked, I think they may have had to reboot the other end, in California < 1435629095 687197 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TRISKELION CHICKEN < 1435629105 999289 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. Someone in California solved it, at any rate < 1435629504 491024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a thing about branch prediction, what's the best thing to learn to learn about things like that < 1435630151 940241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchanted creature gets -1/+2, can block any number of creatures, and gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, target opponent draws a card". < 1435631757 505129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read in some book recently they mentioned they could make computers that are next to each other to communicate by temperatures. < 1435631973 217520 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: seems like there would be quite a bit of latency. < 1435632011 284694 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435632297 890833 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1 < 1435632509 997693 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435632625 873228 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, my kernel doesn't boot yet. < 1435632638 820888 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell qemu to boot using this ISO, but it says it has no bootable media. < 1435633072 147272 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :xorriso says that it's an El Torito image. < 1435633296 506323 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute. < 1435633299 376945 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xorriso : NOTE : Detected El-Torito boot information which currently is set to be discarded" < 1435633303 29702 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesante. < 1435633607 271219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the problem might have to do with extension for threading discussions? (I don't like that extension anyways and just use plain MediaWiki on my own user talk page) < 1435633612 873980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1435634024 478062 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435634552 455565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Windows 95 CD is not bootable < 1435634579 760494 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: I would insert a factorial function here, but that joke is probably overplayed < 1435634587 441936 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What are you supposed to do with the CD then? < 1435634605 142168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo, run setup.exe from an existing DOS install < 1435634894 233828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Ttml14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43348 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+127) 10Created page with "What is the codes of Greek, Cyrillic, math symbols? --~~~~" < 1435635208 566527 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435635467 872620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435635799 432290 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435636753 891046 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1435636841 164202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1435636856 757130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you solve the VPN problem in California today? < 1435636877 890733 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm still in St Louis. < 1435636887 485669 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A storm killed my cable modem. < 1435637208 373363 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435637282 945760 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435637521 649960 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435638020 440450 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435639059 665393 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435639821 796576 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435640068 342026 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435640965 717743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43349&oldid=43339 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+30) 10/* See also */ < 1435641260 861274 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq im in north county, dem nados went just south of us < 1435641325 599385 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: And I'm in South County, where they went just north of us. < 1435641878 771403 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-124-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435642014 40622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the same things done with Gentzen esolang you can also do by writing it like ordinary sequent calculus notations. But, it is also can be done other way around too. < 1435642798 777068 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435642954 914716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1435642964 723789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i missed yesterday < 1435643017 545720 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-124-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1435643147 795526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you got away with it this year < 1435643874 717653 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435643900 184999 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesnt sir Fungellot fnord < 1435644105 966438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't. < 1435644769 676015 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435645012 861807 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435645170 359110 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646313 479623 :hilquias`!~user@179.186.84.9.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646435 607857 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646459 193487 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435647155 584542 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435647390 262079 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435649762 486855 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435649921 579743 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1435650550 665344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww, there is no fungot < 1435651191 675273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :again! < 1435651217 216553 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I haven;t been on IRC for a while < 1435651222 168491 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since last Friday morning I think < 1435651302 4888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how much have you forgotten? < 1435651345 991095 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to speak italian, how to get a good night sleep, that sort of thing < 1435651351 32644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the weather here is TOO NICE < 1435651378 921482 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 5 past nine in the morning and already 21 degrees Celsius! < 1435652810 301347 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435653226 289439 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435653253 460768 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435653870 502148 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435654124 582672 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435654299 465099 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435654920 256023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435655194 802433 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435656029 521398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman LXXXVIII < 1435656038 670429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :88 < 1435656046 552071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ >:88 < 1435656047 169043 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 89 < 1435656051 917160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 89 < 1435656052 467938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LXXXIX < 1435656099 488801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1435656104 778196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compress roman numerals < 1435656111 708234 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a good challenge :) < 1435656124 731051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you mean golf? we've had two or three golfs for that < 1435656128 827952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you pointers < 1435656298 279142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "delete" a reserved word in Java? < 1435656998 306950 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I don't do java < 1435657055 948142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1435657060 606611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435657062 342789 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1435657110 748772 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :const and goto are reserved words < 1435657114 358722 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have no function < 1435657130 986309 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert is not a reserved word in early java versions but is in current version < 1435657135 46271 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is striftpf and others < 1435657137 962266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"delete" is a reserved word in C++, "del" is a reserved word in python, and "delete" is a builtin function in perl. < 1435657139 290782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strictfp < 1435657170 593672 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early java versions didn't have enum as well < 1435657184 414880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so boolean enum = false; < 1435657190 472956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the "delete" stuff is very tricky, exactly because of what http://magiccards.info/uh/en/10.html demonstrates < 1435657224 628174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a word you need very often, for multiple contexts. there's two or three good synonyms: "delete", "remove", "erase", but even that's not enough < 1435657259 779081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it is a reserved word in Thrift, which I am using to generate Java :( < 1435657262 804619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so C++ has sort of ran out of them and is now using "remove" for I think two different things, "erase" for two different things, and "delete" for one thing < 1435657312 957659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, maybe "remove" for three different things < 1435657390 40072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also using "clog" for two things but that's not because they've run out of names, but an accident of history, with the two being invented separately and later getting into one language < 1435657399 157394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's now too late to change either < 1435659489 465716 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435659957 186772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode R < 1435659958 180245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0052 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R] < 1435659961 19398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435659961 377599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1435659966 605857 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1435659968 595793 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode nR < 1435659969 270109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0052 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R] < 1435659971 545979 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMM < 1435659981 765880 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMM??? < 1435660146 909104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I am wrong < 1435660719 920057 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... actually don't know what I was doing wrong < 1435660733 363391 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A find tool was breaking on the sequence nR until it wasn't < 1435662550 834372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, CAO is down. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1435662571 527448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1435662577 315480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is CAO?) < 1435662598 782756 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl Alt Oxygen? Cards Against O'Reilly?) < 1435662614 238484 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl Akrasiac Org. < 1435662624 178378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that < 1435662625 203738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435662633 996032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the North American server for DCSS. < 1435662642 5507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS? < 1435662647 465493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. < 1435662650 402983 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435662864 668589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435662865 594212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredom/A boredom is like a kingdom, except ruled by a bore. They don't tend to last very long before people revolt. < 1435662887 911176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435662890 431816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1?/$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435662895 829183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1435662900 371454 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lunch < 1435662901 140111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lunch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435663050 96317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's happening to the encoding there? < 1435663276 348835 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1 < 1435663277 141221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435663279 911732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1? < 1435663280 760122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435663299 473556 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I believe ‘$1?’ is special-cased. < 1435663729 789958 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MILDEW CHICKEN < 1435665284 576185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, I'm trying to figure out a sane way to write this code < 1435665298 430073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what language < 1435665304 463961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a way that won't trip me up later with mysterious undebuggable errors < 1435665306 925422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ < 1435665315 627354 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what code? < 1435665319 60720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what I want, I just have to get the basics right < 1435665331 739104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some stupid wrapper class that abstracts some existing library into saner syntax < 1435665342 848773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it's not just one class, but multiple classes < 1435666362 896241 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name NICK :APic < 1435667272 199037 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435667447 60687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435667976 754338 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is making progress aaaah < 1435668402 777267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too, only too slowly < 1435668845 302154 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1435668846 923089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435668912 987938 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435669313 508632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PokéArena14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43350&oldid=15159 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+20) 10This is an idea... < 1435669387 353770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, more like > epsilon progress < 1435669395 538740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happy with > 1 < 1435669405 349441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of Archimedean and stuff < 1435669406 234930 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I am working with something called Epsilon < 1435669817 457754 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435670497 113226 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, should I do this the ugly but short way, or the more explicit but longer way? < 1435670626 699839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it the uglier way < 1435670844 83896 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671662 88866 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671671 698637 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671976 942160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I have accomplished another task and I do not know what to do now < 1435672063 186237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what should I have for dinner < 1435672491 919246 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435672648 781808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest ice. < 1435672665 692654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why must you keep pinging the timeout? < 1435672698 220609 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.schemers.org/ documents/ standards/ r5rs/ html/ fnord example works perfectly well in 0.57. you said: " error: too many levels of braces < 1435672701 696666 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: on anagol? < 1435672802 969179 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435672835 554194 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably for large numbers just converting them to the usual 10 digits is probably already a compression scheme for roman numerals < 1435672887 9980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no < 1435672890 463770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anagol < 1435672893 403301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for serious purposes < 1435672907 277103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on anagol, I'd always choose the shorter but uglier way < 1435672909 100571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I think mroman_ is talking about the roman numeral things < 1435672913 250533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435672920 809839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about whether it's on anagol < 1435672947 861157 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I was talking about "a compression" challenge < 1435672951 351849 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a "golfing" challenge < 1435672970 921995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least what I intended to talk about < 1435673517 7866 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435674297 881818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Make sure to clean your computer's ghost filter. < 1435674311 977826 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435674720 948064 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435675519 851640 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435675649 287798 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435675659 20860 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC < 1435675663 13649 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Hoo---oooom < 1435675664 260595 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e' < 1435675666 59355 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e < 1435676102 697679 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1435676106 690627 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one wants to talk < 1435676107 962608 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai < 1435676110 553209 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435676565 552284 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion1 You can always talk to fungot < 1435676565 646269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435676567 200909 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: oh wait, does that count?). i don't < 1435676581 901861 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No it doesn't count. What about 'or'? < 1435676593 140808 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: where do people get off saying such things? :) ( of course, once you know programming languages where (: and :) are language tokens? can't remember. it was accessible in movie clips too. with sp2 < 1435676623 930746 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You really need to leak more details about 'or'. < 1435676651 684282 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: make some proggies ( read: googled for " stwong" but the zombies said " yes yes" < 1435676672 462811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435678654 760244 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435679220 205034 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1435679791 585991 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435681842 879064 :password2!~password@197.77.60.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435682957 978226 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435683722 584026 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435683787 637774 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435683946 911434 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435684095 627287 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435684278 985050 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435684432 522693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't (: and :) are tokens in Kvikkalkul? < 1435685686 546603 :password2!~password@197.77.60.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435685851 544406 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435686945 317179 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435687418 519123 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435687897 564032 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689045 793044 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689089 551366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689198 662828 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I'm pretty sure my kernel has not started booting while I was asleep. < 1435689230 956275 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689358 340463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1435689522 926097 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BRB < 1435689743 155598 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435689786 973142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689790 584200 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689951 920805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1435689960 98110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1435689985 543211 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689986 497486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fateful day a couple of days ago < 1435689989 269127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for remembering < 1435689995 30027 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heveryonello. < 1435689998 612779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :'( < 1435690004 28491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got chocolate cake! < 1435690012 653395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey no one else here did hth < 1435690013 436077 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, Obergefell v. Hodges? < 1435690023 710966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that was 4 days < 1435690066 636049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although relatedly, i was born on the first anniversary of the stonewall riots < 1435690086 729277 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, awww, did I miss oerjanday? < 1435690111 926051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1435690115 567067 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435690122 644403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was visited by family, so didn't log on much < 1435690137 550879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to York and I will buy you a drink or something < 1435690196 170491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat unlikely, but thanks < 1435690263 261702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those supreme court judges don't understand timing, clearly they should have waited 2 more days. < 1435690344 776420 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690346 622825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was wrong with their timing < 1435690363 805808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, just missed the anniversary of stonewall < 1435690372 43040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imagine if the gays could have celebrated stonewall and obergefell v. hodges on the same day < 1435690396 989470 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bi people etc < 1435690403 784868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, easy solution, just make it a 3-day celebration < 1435690418 531449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sorry, only thought of that after pressing return < 1435690486 965548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the whole parade thing was in sf two days later < 1435690501 585858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1435690510 253293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there was plenty of celebrating hth < 1435690516 967280 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :London Pride was around the same time too < 1435690519 317944 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690527 742538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/article/supreme-court-rules-favor-most-buck-wild-pride-par-50768 < 1435690616 149521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems the festival is on a close weekend < 1435690696 16789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this day it fell on the actual stonewall date < 1435690697 323227 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435690699 561106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*year < 1435690705 779790 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690807 439194 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435690860 804966 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690902 292889 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435690923 469073 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435690946 736421 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690963 474904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now in Dungeons&Dragons game we entered an underground city and a wizard made most of us invisible. But, I have to figure out what to do, considering what kind of thing can remove the invisibility: the spell expires, attacking, anti-magic field. A bit like a game or correspondence chess we have a lot of time to figure out the plan, but unlike in chess you can't do in between each individual move < 1435691019 4493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should hold an aberration pride parade hth < 1435691026 975063 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, did I tell you that in the 4th ed game I am in we are hiding in a ship that was meant as our own decoy < 1435691038 723442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any kind of parade might result in too much attention < 1435691057 428889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you did < 1435691083 765759 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically because the party's wizard is a very stubborn character < 1435691091 221458 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435691104 339461 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is fun < 1435691135 526408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a game I am in though I exploded a ship with their own explosives before they could reach our ship < 1435691148 67526 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5th ed game I am in, we did an encounter too quickly (in sticking-to-the-story terms) because the DM forgot that 2/3 of the party has night vision < 1435691267 195486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :abberation pride parade hehe < 1435691288 268398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a parade doesn't even make much sense, and even if it did it probably won't work < 1435691315 21773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you come visit berkeley i will buy you a drink or something < 1435691323 219973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most likely something, rather than a drink < 1435691328 419589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're really into drinks < 1435691330 740521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it would probably not be a good idea for sneaking in a city invisible < 1435691339 396189 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, actually I am just kind of thirsty right now < 1435691354 616850 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691392 562824 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435691405 536981 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691418 293634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not at first. But if the situation can be made to allow such a bit unusual thing to work might result in the correct kind of distraction. That would require a lot of setting up though, and require events to come out in a certain way, which is probably not what will happen. < 1435691472 830906 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also had our plans to blow up a bank foiled when the bank blew up < 1435691508 741807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1435691509 419963 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691520 893577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect I ever have needed or would need to blow up a bank though < 1435691570 64653 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were planning on framing it on one of the empires who are chasing after us < 1435691766 147124 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one of the empires who are chasing after us" sounds funny < 1435691800 966535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I have ended up with a magical superweapon attached to me < 1435691808 463930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, I need one more series of classes < 1435691812 38638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1435691814 936017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, C++ classes < 1435691849 650859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is much desired by various nations < 1435691854 922477 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are headed to another continent < 1435691893 563940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1435692011 321289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43351&oldid=43326 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (-3) 10 < 1435692088 988810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> It is 5 past nine in the morning and already 21 degrees Celsius! <-- i take it you're already on another continent < 1435692106 394629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The invisibility probably will not last long enough, therefore requiring hiding and sneaky and so on < 1435692108 260440 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I continue to be in York < 1435692121 216983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: impossible! < 1435692131 300101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :england is known to be always cold and wet hth < 1435692147 889492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, didn't you hear that Yorkshire declared independence < 1435692155 224943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1435692220 394286 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr if Yorkshire was independent it would have been in the top 10 in the 2012 olympics < 1435692334 870917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435692368 45263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might apply to trøndelag in the winter games < 1435692397 572482 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So trøndelag is the yorkshire of Norway? < 1435692406 735402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1435692418 962459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure what a yorkshire of norway would be < 1435692434 752085 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION --> somewhere maybe cooler < 1435692436 357554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since i'm not entirely sure what a yorkshire of england is) < 1435692444 935886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's nowhere cooler than #esoteric hth < 1435692454 816383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guards suggested to our two visible people (two generic human soldiers and therefore no problem to be seen and not recognized) to leave by the west passage (we entered through the north passage), but we can't because one of our party has been left behind to guard the entrance so we have to go back that way < 1435692456 148829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I meant in temperature < 1435692463 828883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the yorkshire of england is yorkshire hth < 1435692465 141573 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too warm < 1435692476 47925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tdnh < 1435692485 514349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ydnh < 1435692496 48858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This city is also very large and may take a long time to find something. Making it too dark, waiting for nightfall, whatever, might help too though, if we can figure out how is best way < 1435692588 27065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have not only a system of two factions against each other, but rather *five*, with complicated relations, this makes it much more confusing. < 1435692952 155669 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435693283 407055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1? < 1435693292 123099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435693303 941111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/$1? < 1435693305 109206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/$1? < 1435693314 100763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/$1? < 1435693315 709641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 Bike < 1435693329 772572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/$1? < 1435693330 699122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/%241%3F < 1435693381 786088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1435693395 305871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where art thou, bike < 1435693472 9575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n 'hm... '; \? '$1?' < 1435693498 68856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... $1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435693506 662470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that didn't help < 1435693558 798585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that prevents HackEgo's zero-width space) < 1435693743 219211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wasn't "nitia" one of Bike's old nicks? < 1435693756 903140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435693774 358519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1435693782 110757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike went by Nitya < 1435693791 950968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I thought it was familiar tdnh < 1435693816 864566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I/i/ < 1435693819 655550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, bike has been absorbed into HackEgo's database < 1435693829 313659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why we haven't seen him < 1435697895 528449 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435698107 253045 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435698132 186072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris_: what happened to your old nick? < 1435698220 265283 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irl first name got freed up on freenode's nickserv! that's an opportunity too good to pass up < 1435698223 310165 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1435698250 371219 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435698251 584938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i chose my nick too < 1435698259 821505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i thought your first name was nooooooooodl? < 1435698263 617862 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435698284 896885 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm in this cool club with you, oerjan, elliott (rip), maybe other people here < 1435698292 670659 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only < 1435698315 535304 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing my first name to nooodl to make up for "mauris" already being taken on freenode would have been a very good alternative < 1435698333 437284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: Like ingy.net did < 1435698355 265019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing his name to match his domain name. < 1435698408 413503 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a pretty good name < 1435698461 560232 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a pretty horrible looking website < 1435698536 531269 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's font-family: fantasy; < 1435698558 219410 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very good CSS feature "i don't care what font shows up here, as long as it's ugly" < 1435698572 687080 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :font-family: eyerape; < 1435698760 871021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own opinion is it should simply be two choices: fixed-pitch or don't-care < 1435698805 56064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With also an optional language parameter, so that it can select a font suitable for that language if needed < 1435698922 458027 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There *is* a language parameter, lang: < 1435698922 672369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing scary overoptimized code < 1435698952 926608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am just saying the font should only be decided by the language, heading level, and one flag to tell whether or not fixpitch is needed < 1435698975 479173 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately there's a couple other attributes that are appropriate, depending on the language. < 1435699021 644528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other parameter needed though are to specify emphasis or not < 1435699064 636146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, and the language parameter probably only has about four meaningful bits that are in common use (russian vs serbian; turkish vs anything else; cjk style) < 1435699065 745408 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :serif vs. sans serif for Western scripts, Mincho vs. Gothic for East Asian... < 1435699098 491964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serif/sans-serif/etc should be decided by the client's options instead < 1435699127 23197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, teh sans-serif font I set up in my browser is actually a serif font < 1435699138 396123 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435699143 572558 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There's more linguistic variety in rendering than that. For instance, whether or not certain ligatures should be used is language-specific. < 1435699158 199946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can you give examples? < 1435699179 826863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be other varieties, in which case I'd like to know about them < 1435699275 104933 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though minor) German does not traditionally have an "ffl" ligature. < 1435699304 769558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1435699315 34369 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435699359 115256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, in most fonts, the fi and fl ligatures are actually VERY ugly, made to differ a lot from separate fi or fl letters because an fi ligature is somehow the mark of professionalism < 1435699360 836971 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Roman alphabet text you're not going to find huge such varieties; the more common distinction is whether or not a given glyph is considered a ligature or a letter. < 1435699385 938382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most fonts either shouldn't have an fi or fl ligature at all, or should have one that looks almost the same as the two letters rendered separately < 1435699405 463092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly after some kerning) < 1435699462 128038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most horrible is when the ligature appears in the ligature table of a monospaced font, so the monospaced font suddenly isn't as monospaced as you'd have thought < 1435699495 501491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write "fi" in such a font, and it will take only one cell, not two < 1435699498 386786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like ligatures in monospace font < 1435699507 707321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 uses ligatures in monospace font and I don't like that < 1435699528 562290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case the problem is that the ligature takes only one monospaced cell instead of two < 1435699550 856510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also use smartquotes in monospace text and that also is no good < 1435699551 957691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in any case, even if it took two cells, an "fi" ligature isn't likely to be needed in a monospaced font < 1435699584 209970 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more *relevant* is Arabic vs. Urdu script, which has somewhat distinct glyph rendering... < 1435699588 65693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but isn't that an editor issue rather than a font problem? < 1435699599 841234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Probably, yes < 1435699624 714634 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :An "fi" ligature is certainly needed in a monospaced font, but for only one reason: it has a code point (for legacy reasons). < 1435699659 852717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, I also think that perhaps there should have been two different cyrillic scripts, not only one, instead of two different options for language-specific rendering cyrillic text, but it's definitely too late to change that now. < 1435699680 460778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, but then the ligature table shouldn't turn "fi" to that code point < 1435699705 710535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's a glyph for that code point < 1435699715 133698 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, certainly. That (well, or similar) is only at all appropriate in the rendering of proportional text. < 1435699792 540935 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fixed width text, the sane handling is that any given codepoint takes 0, 1, or 2 cells. < 1435700119 897388 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435700331 915853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google esoteric maths < 1435700334 239274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esotericonline.net/group/vortexmath < 1435700334 293169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Vortex based Mathematics - Esoteric Online < 1435700358 999489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vortex math is so good < 1435700564 388984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435700800 980791 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435701084 371872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm writing a C++ library with lots of short inline const member functions in template classes, would it be going too far if I said #define Z ) const { return < 1435701233 385507 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-226.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435701447 753064 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435701448 463953 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... terrible. < 1435701672 125406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gregor < 1435701675 341039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1435701724 362458 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435701857 960053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek wtf thursday forecast < 1435701882 498052 :hilquias`!~user@179.186.84.9.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435701885 661138 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, T23:59:60Z a'comin. < 1435701907 680929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the next 48 hours it will increase from a low of 13 to a high of 26 celsius < 1435701946 607160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs an acclimatization pill < 1435702007 4503 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be worse! It's 29C and humid right now! < 1435702012 30997 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and that's a normal temp here. < 1435702024 343429 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bit low, TBH) < 1435702085 197958 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 26? < 1435702105 22483 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itks gpnna be 37chere on saturday < 1435702113 703803 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I know, right? That's comfy. < 1435702121 794480 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no < 1435702234 49922 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, also fun: the average high in July is 31.7C. :) < 1435702268 10957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only about 4 degrees below the norwegian maximum temperature record hth < 1435702273 8970 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the record high being a far less happiness-inducing 46C) < 1435702300 391602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first one.) < 1435702350 47944 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The absolute highest recorded temp in the *US*, BTW, is 57C. (kill me) < 1435702377 644663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the death valley had the global record now, after the libyan one was discredited? < 1435702393 936598 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably is the global high then. < 1435702435 352487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it is. < 1435702546 640377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's Phoenix, which has on average about 100 days a year above 37C... < 1435702550 44135 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435702611 134615 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks to ride a bike there, i guess < 1435702657 172203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christopher C. Burt, the weather historian writing for Weather Underground who shepherded the Libya reading's 2012 disqualification, believes that the 1913 Death Valley reading is "a myth", and is at least four or five degrees Fahrenheit too high,[10] as do other weather historians Dr. Arnold Court and William Taylor Reid.[90] Burt proposes that the highest reliably recorded temperature on Earth is still at Death Valley, but is instead 53.9 °C ... < 1435702663 114392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... (129 °F) recorded five times [...] < 1435702722 553568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :54 c is about the temperature where people become liquid < 1435702745 279469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru fax < 1435702755 981485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm fax < 1435702775 234109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen em in a while < 1435703089 604828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom help < 1435703090 608788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1435703167 225816 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 53C has been recorded in Arizona as well. < 1435703169 771213 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1994. < 1435703189 661483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of C < 1435703209 901474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 53C < 1435703211 174654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham/Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1435703955 42172 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435704001 958801 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435704068 421229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/hash* < 1435704069 244488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1435704092 570726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's still there because of the `revert bug. < 1435704143 840466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom hash* < 1435704144 805714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan/Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1435704145 974251 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435704147 421974 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435704177 554848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1435704178 88925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1435704248 92134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think of time complexity analysis with regard to average time for an operation twh < 1435704252 651677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that's called < 1435704268 790087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splendid idea, someone else should do that hth < 1435704368 781682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is shuf -n1 clever enough to only keep one line in memory? < 1435704566 428058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting question. it could obviously do so. < 1435704619 860753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably you can implement shuf -nN with only N lines in memory. < 1435704629 289619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a standard algorithm? < 1435704635 847354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1435704656 728099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in fact, there are _two_ algorithms, one known, one barely known < 1435704657 998938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I've even read about it before. < 1435704659 823834 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find the reference < 1435704689 788491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, you want N lines of memory only, not runtime? < 1435704690 523643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_sampling < 1435704694 934338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's a simple standard algorithm < 1435704699 570608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I read your question wrong < 1435704706 364558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you read it as? < 1435704756 670258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a more complicated algorithm for choosing n random indexes without repetition from a large range 1..N where N is much larger than n, < 1435704773 149866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with not only the memory usage being O(n), but the runtime as well < 1435704831 157101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's two algorithms for that, one described in an exercise in Knuth, the other is barely known < 1435704853 342536 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435704971 400249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf has some trouble being time limited since lines don't have predictable length < 1435704985 918584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1435705018 17531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is worth not for when you have N data represented explicitly, but when you can generate the data with a fast function from the index < 1435705054 246679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the input data that is < 1435705311 949302 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435705437 757033 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435705509 315297 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435706034 337147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "shuf -n" command meaning? < 1435706280 270929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: choose N uniform random lines of the input without repetition and in random order (unless there are fewer than N lines in the input), where N is the argument to the switch -n < 1435706325 128518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435706389 145772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want one random line can you do, pick the first line with probability 1/1, replace the memory with the second line with probability 1/2, replace the memory with the third line with probability 1/3, etc < 1435706409 810530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's how it works < 1435706450 655023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm for shuf -n is so famous it's described in both the main text of Knuth and (iirc) in the Cormen-Leiserson-Rivest-Stein book < 1435706514 89172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did once need to implement such a thing too, but with weights too, and this is what I used. < 1435706563 681384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weighted is probably less well known < 1435706581 828908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the weights are supposed to mean < 1435706591 881585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is I figured it out by myself I didn't read those books < 1435706627 33802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it mean you take a weighted independent random selection of N items, and then condition that on it having no repetitions? < 1435706679 610069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case I was only taking one item, and the weight is meaning that item can be more than one < 1435706716 363187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as [AAAABBCCDEFG] then you can instead make [A(4) B(2) C(2) D(1) E(1) F(1) G(1)] where the number in () is a weight number. < 1435706762 945119 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a markov chain generally hold probability info < 1435706783 230793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: I thought it does but I don't know < 1435706804 624018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, choosing _one_ item with weighted < 1435706815 267888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm for that _is_ in Knuth < 1435706827 298396 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using a table of (string,string) => list<string> < 1435706829 742451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1435706836 871510 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :And choosing the next word at random < 1435706852 123903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, a stronger algorithm for that < 1435706877 80019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, one that finds a random index in O(1) time, after O(n) time and space preprocessing the weights to O(n) extra space < 1435706880 638260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a funny algorithm < 1435706936 197014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that algorithm is also in the C++11 standard library, the preprocessed state is called std::discrete_distribution < 1435706961 966203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and its operator() member function generates an index based on the preprocessed data) < 1435706977 340121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's also in libgsl, but I'm not completely sure < 1435707016 739131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, of course, is again most useful if you can random access the input you want to sample < 1435707029 899873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the simpler algorithm with no preprocessing works too < 1435707088 780275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use preprocess weights. I implemented it as a SQL aggregate function in a C code, so you have to read it one record at a time and do not have the capability to preprocess anything < 1435707112 425092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see < 1435707179 800170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if the input set is always the same, you could index it so it's random access by the index, and then use the more complicated algorithm if you want to get lots of independent weighted samples < 1435707214 749116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if a webpage wants to show a random image or quotations out of a weighted set every time you load it < 1435707222 255164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the set is large < 1435707275 994880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function implementation doesn't know if the input set is always the same or not, and anyways I didn't implement it for multiple selections; I only implemented to pick one. But yes it can be useful, if you want to pick more than one, to make up the proper way to do that < 1435707369 214036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, one purpose I intend to do with is that you can generate a booster pack of Magic: the Gathering cards or whatever by a SQL query. < 1435707410 73837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see. < 1435707446 579223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that's more complicated < 1435707453 51305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a booster pack usually doesn't contain repetitions < 1435707458 951694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe) < 1435707491 361719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ideal distribution used might not be completely known, because Wizards doesn't tell so that people can't complain if they don't do it perfectly < 1435707513 643193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably find a convincing enough approximation for that distribution though < 1435707543 521706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether or not it does, but that would involve changing it too. However you can also just use the weights when there is not the repetitions, use a trigger that would insert records into the pack table and each time to pick one, pick only from the ones that aren't already picked < 1435707572 64130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure if that's exactly the same < 1435707577 766480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1435707631 561305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm not sure it's the same as repicking the whole thing when there's a repetition < 1435707720 8037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I think it's not the same < 1435707725 739113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the distribution is not uniform < 1435707755 259584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In SQL a infinite loop can contain only SELECT statements though, you can't make a infinite loop with INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, etc although finite loops can contain INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE; and no loops can include statements such as CREATE and PRAGMA < 1435707797 319833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435707888 959321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can't you just generate a booster pack using unweighted samples without repetition instead? < 1435707923 554376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with possibly some cards duplicated in older sets, and deciding separately whether you want a mythic or a rare, and whether you want a foil and of what rarity < 1435707927 274507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering at least, I think the only case where weighted samples are even needed is when you don't pick more than one < 1435707933 490217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except for some old sets) < 1435707964 310018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for old sets, you just need multiple copies of a card in the same set and rarity (sometimes with the same art, sometimes with different art) < 1435707969 223148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1435707981 656665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course it's hard to be sure what they really do to generate booster packs < 1435708015 432169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would generally though want to ignore art and holographic since they don't affect the game. Nevertheless for some people can be useful such as if they use this software to make up their own card game < 1435708132 396095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1435708143 221669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the foil does affect the distribution of the booster card < 1435708155 778973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least for most of the recent expert expansion sets) < 1435708180 651563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a common is replaced by a foil of any rarity, so boosters with a foil rare have another rare < 1435708191 893494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just ignore that < 1435708213 63268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it improve the Limited formats though? < 1435708224 829263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ignore the art, technically, but that doesn't really simpligy your code < 1435708228 715103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know really < 1435708229 306567 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's possible for a draft pool to have more rares than expected. < 1435708251 909837 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless by "improve" you mean "make it a better game", not "improve the power level in the format". < 1435708262 274915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean to make it a better game. < 1435708263 276213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it probably improves the satisfaction of customers at least, because they can very rarely open boosters with two rares < 1435708265 794656 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435708277 491989 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That's probably a judgement call really. < 1435708280 836505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it affects the metagame itself < 1435708296 658023 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435708336 987512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When making up distribution of cards in a pack, I am concerned here only about Limited formats. When I would design my own card game I would do this too and the rarity and so on is defined to improve the Limited formats only. < 1435708475 28335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1435708511 67861 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435708652 962721 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy leap second everyone < 1435708675 478398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1435708700 750524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if it is possible to add leap seconds into the configuration file of Astrolog?