< 1433203213 707141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep hyme wisdom/* < 1433203217 246054 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/thyme:Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1433203217 421889 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1433203217 597537 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                o/`¯º < 1433203227 39225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1433203239 192377 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433203252 29362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eep < 1433203426 493165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ghci is such a scow, why is its syntax different from a .has file <-- imo, because you cannot unambiguously parse a line that might be either an expression or the start of a definition. < 1433203468 170697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "x = 5" is unambiguous < 1433203489 998135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but that's not the only legal form of first line of a definition < 1433203495 500194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1433203497 521074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : = 5 < 1433203500 124170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you required all of them to be on one line < 1433203501 537995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is just as legal < 1433203505 692102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiline definitions are a different issue < 1433203520 892366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now that "data T ..." is legal, i don't see why "x = 5" shouldn't be < 1433203524 838618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but then you'd still have people complaining that they couldn't paste .hs files directly into ghci < 1433203533 889437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can, with :{ < 1433203539 371918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which already exists for multiline definitions < 1433203557 368263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you probably still couldn't because .hs files can be out of order and that's asking a bit much < 1433203564 290429 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433203567 623792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i mean "newbies", aka the people you're trying to avoid having to explain this to - replacing it with having to explain :{ instead is useless. < 1433203580 443517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but :{ is a p. good smiley face < 1433203582 121335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's that, the mustachioed guy operator? < 1433203587 129256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a big moustache or what? < 1433203593 803547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't even think of the out of order thig. < 1433203595 871437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing. < 1433203600 864718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway it's not about explaining things, it's about using it myself hth < 1433203637 599852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: anyway, they could probably fix it so some more cases worked out of the box, but having "typing the contents of a .hs file into ghci always works" work is hopeless. < 1433203674 724896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{ \ x :: Int \ print 1 \ x = 2 \ :} < 1433203688 874211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the recent reddit discussion i saw, it's somewhat likely that they'll try to improve it soon < 1433203696 56145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1433203713 528742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i try keeping up with reddit.com/r/haskell < 1433203724 197013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped after a long streak of scow < 1433203738 173099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to read _every_ post < 1433203741 433321 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1433203744 834572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like i do < 1433203787 646809 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur[not-dot-ne < 1433203793 763208 :augur[not-dot-ne!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur[notdotnet] < 1433203910 688889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although no one in the reddit discussion pointed out the obvious ambiguities, if i hadn't been several days late to read it i might have < 1433203917 35996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i filed a bunch of filler ghci bugs a while ago but i forgot i was going to mention that one < 1433203930 156203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means it's only obvious to me, i guess) < 1433203941 211890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's so obvious that no one else found it necessary to mention hth < 1433203955 366276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MUST BE IT < 1433203960 113810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "filler" bug is one whose bug number is slightly below #10000 < 1433203968 604443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1433203991 331629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does that mean i should look at #9999 and down to see your work < 1433203996 576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way it's a shame bug #10000 was a duplicate < 1433204009 920794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it deserved all the discussion from #9858 < 1433204012 116140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, otoh it brought so much back into life < 1433204029 205499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you notice they didn't manage to fix it completely in 7.10.1 < 1433204062 307112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's missing? < 1433204073 60583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped paying attention sometime after i became famous hth < 1433204105 328704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the (,) constraint vs. * ambiguity, mainly < 1433204120 939660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, () and => vs. -> was the exploit < 1433204121 581405 :augur[notdotnet]!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1433204137 990813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1433204153 914228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll just rely on SafeHaskell from now on to prevent people from deleting my files < 1433204236 397334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the tuple constraints thing was changed after 7.10 was released < 1433204347 750762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i said! < 1433204362 890259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1433204374 394702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remembered that it happened, just not the timeline < 1433204389 156396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also after that they've changed it into an actual class < 1433204516 621855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9995 i'm with #2 < 1433204535 970551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433204824 622674 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433204851 303710 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1433204965 204255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's a loop with tail recursion <-- what shachaf is trying to imply is that haskell's laziness means tail recursion is often not an improvement, and this is one of those cases. < 1433204982 984730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't trying to imply that but i did think it < 1433205025 11311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when tail recursion _is_ an improvement, you often need explicit strictness annotation to make it so. < 1433205043 775951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can use implicit strictness annotation hth < 1433205185 56585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205186 156483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mockingbird/mockingbird is watching you.. closely! Is it mocking you? Probably. < 1433205227 827004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to swat mockingbird but misses -----### < 1433205242 943310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe `? should give a random wisdom when run with no arguments < 1433205252 58688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433205252 965642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433205262 759827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible < 1433205279 52334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205280 144355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans/fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1433205299 847017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433205300 997795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainty/We don't know what certainty is for sure, but at least it isn't a functor. < 1433205481 612588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forty < 1433205482 545342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1433205486 990284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1433205487 967862 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1433205500 402375 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433205503 320674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that a complete list? < 1433205510 635898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but of course < 1433205547 897700 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433205653 158847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205654 108868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205657 183587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205657 960250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205660 496702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433205664 848099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1433205665 823405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl is the correct spelling < 1433205691 900625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wlcom < 1433205693 205059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! This is a chat about unusual programming tools. For additional info, visit our wiki: . (For unusual things of a contrasting sort, try http://bit.ly/19k9nf8.) < 1433206165 905337 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433206166 80889 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208379 682633 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenir < 1433208380 308406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenir: not found < 1433208387 306217 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenida < 1433208388 30979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenida: not found < 1433208419 338304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1433208420 346851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1433208431 224404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenu < 1433208432 36872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenu: not found < 1433208442 563674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no french < 1433208446 901494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bienvenu < 1433208447 632139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bienvenu? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433208525 945041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1433208526 859585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1433208546 101891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/bienvenido < 1433208546 823150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/bienvenido: No such file or directory < 1433208554 559148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/`welcome.es < 1433208555 261104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1433208559 415057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/en .*/en EFnet o DALnet.)/' wisdom/welcome.es < 1433208563 323498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433208569 854318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1433208570 886476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1433208609 909690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/welcome* < 1433208610 922213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome \ wisdom/welcome.bork \ wisdom/welcome.es \ wisdom/welcome.fi < 1433208880 926492 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208881 102171 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ajgpeeoktjprqltt QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1433208882 642190 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vavxmqiaodhvgmkv QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433209157 2081 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209309 986240 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209383 72256 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433209407 193913 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The morris worm from 1987 or 88 what was it < 1433209420 163101 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabucgchkbjuwbwd JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209451 938782 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kboskxlswnopyirn JOIN :#esoteric < 1433209483 832446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with the morris dance < 1433209566 288666 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to replicate it < 1433209613 156338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good at replicating itself hth < 1433209857 783958 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1433209867 325293 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its on a floppy disk in a meusum < 1433209882 113817 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Museum < 1433209892 306148 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't with that word < 1433210339 248179 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me an alternitave language that can make a site fully functionable without the usage of javascript but can make the same style and quality of a java run site < 1433210590 861480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you confusing java and javascript, they are completely different. < 1433210610 642156 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1433210617 95293 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java script run site < 1433210666 153835 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they are different I just can't word atm < 1433210694 862766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of languages could work in principle but they have the problem that _your site_ doesn't get to decide what user's _browsers_ support, and javascript is the only thing that works widely without users installing anything extra these days. < 1433210704 451225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*users' < 1433210722 918041 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :God < 1433210724 776415 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1433210749 550795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there are quite a lot of languages that can be _compiled_ to javascript. < 1433210763 593631 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everything with javascript, I want more versitile sites < 1433210829 527355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because javascript was what got improved upon to fix the even more horrible mess that existed before. < 1433210881 693413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :java btw tried to be it, but failed. < 1433210916 804485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should note that he isn't a web developer so may be missing something. < 1433210931 676617 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1433211039 285554 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I forgot Oerjan is in his 40's he was in the nightmare of the early internet < 1433211093 443292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't much of a nightmare for me, but then i didn't have to program it. < 1433211146 569327 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha what do you mean program it < 1433211175 247196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't have to try to make fancy websites < 1433211179 546051 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1433211214 187676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own website (hideously out-of-date, i seem to just drop in new files and link them from the wiki these days) doesn't even have CSS. < 1433211268 707693 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I get strong nostalgia when I think of the 1950's-1990's even though I'm a young < 1433211302 416289 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe its because of all the history I learn on a day to day basis < 1433211304 900685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly reincarnation hth < 1433212551 385862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume that nvg.org is Taneb's domain < 1433212569 914238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly, no < 1433212589 350249 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's oerjans site < 1433212615 198950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it elliott's, a rabbi's, Mark Zuckerberg's, or James Bond's? < 1433212624 666760 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get a personal site, everyone seems to have one < 1433212635 290717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nihilumbra: oerjan.nvg.org < 1433212666 507269 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it in norwegion < 1433212671 807229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433212674 396319 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433212679 225977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a fairly impersonal site < 1433212738 781656 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you played Nomic :0 < 1433212981 47799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make webpages and stuff even just with HTML you don't need JavaScripts. If you use server codes then you can use whatever programming language you want, Javascript if you like it, or C, or PHP, or whatever else < 1433213026 888490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want interactive with server codes you can also make telnet protocol or SSH protocol < 1433213056 444302 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol telnet that sounds cool. < 1433213064 441671 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's telnet < 1433213112 219509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interactive internet protocol. Whatever it receive it will do by the terminal emulator (usually VT100 or related), and when you push key it send. < 1433213113 336101 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet is pretty much just a two-way tcp connection to whatever program is on the other end < 1433213177 906764 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unencrypted, so it can easily be spoofed, spied on etc. which is why people nowadays generally use ssh < 1433213224 899898 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. when you send a password to login over a telnet connection, the password is sent as plain text < 1433213252 521401 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if someone is capturing your packets, now they know your password < 1433213257 11450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH is more secure; it support not only login by password but also you can do authentication by keys too, and some other security features < 1433213326 712957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing of SSH is you can do X forwarding which allow to make GUI, but then you need X if you want to be able to access the GUI. I do not recommend that if a services is made on internet you use SSH, that you require X so you should provide text/command-line mode too whether or not the GUI is provided. < 1433213388 491336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use limited codes compatible with VT100/ANSI/xterm if possible since subset of those are the most portable terminal codes. < 1433213446 404383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, some servers also provide option for different terminal types, or you can check the client's terminal type string to see what it identifies itself as, or do both) < 1433213494 719658 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433213758 861262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet *over SSL* is reasonably secure though. < 1433213783 720154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And (though I don't know if anyone does this) you could even use client certs instead of passwords with it. < 1433213804 368432 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but yes, SSH is much more convenient for this. Because seriously, who does Telnet over SSL other than IBM?) < 1433214509 367675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet is also a simpler protocol. But, if you want security then use SSH < 1433214659 792437 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just reaalized, that instead of running dwarf fortress over X tunneling, I can set it to text display! < 1433214765 435787 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a strange concept < 1433214783 772031 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does it have a text display? Do you have a cp437 terminal?) < 1433214873 49684 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433217456 905238 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433218018 713511 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433218031 721439 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433218031 897148 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1433218188 301066 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna fork the 4FK-Based Interpreted Language for the Arduino called Octopus into both Squid and Cuttlefish over the course of a few days < 1433218230 124472 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Development on Octopus will continue as long as 4FK is being developed by me < 1433218339 466791 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433218611 386010 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433218651 972850 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I have a cp437 compatible font (Liberation Mono) < 1433218659 953216 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433218800 775733 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433219079 21468 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, but tis font sucks. getting a better one < 1433219145 724625 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1433219204 266963 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just lost internet < 1433219236 931401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/backup/pc_character_set.chr < 1433219241 281883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a better font < 1433219277 808963 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Lyka < 1433219305 133291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1433219371 222443 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, able to connect to router < 1433219399 575891 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was typing something about 4FK Octopus < 1433219415 563248 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still making an AI for tarballs < 1433219438 133144 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :router says Internet is down < 1433219448 507830 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn quantum physics < 1433219462 72940 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't see your internet you don't have internet < 1433219509 647921 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does one pronounce router as rooter or r- OW- ter < 1433219521 603883 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1433219529 679532 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433219598 326515 :SchrodingersCat!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433219638 647932 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433219686 327417 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna see the current command list for 4FK Octopus? < 1433219699 644808 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a bot < 1433219701 210302 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1433219712 354130 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433219715 312472 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1433219731 125348 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's an arduino sketch < 1433219738 856592 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okey < 1433219751 551456 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4FK == Fourfuck < 1433219761 768371 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++++[>++>+++>++++>+++++>++++++>+++++++>++++++++>+++++++++>++++++++++<<<<<<<<<-]++++++++++++>>>>>>----.>>>---.--.<----.<<<<<<----.>>>>>>>+++++.<<<<<-.<<.>>>>>>>+.<<<<<<<.>>++..<<.>+. < 1433219761 963629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Push x; y == 1 < 1433219765 10951 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1433219772 677168 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's fourfuck tho < 1433219788 716676 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds dirty < 1433219802 488384 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :A former attempt at an esolang < 1433219839 840877 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain what it does < 1433219856 819547 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds lik bf with only 4 commands? < 1433219887 474596 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1433219888 999236 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, bf with four-letter commands < 1433219900 454535 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on a phone < 1433219903 633295 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds very detering < 1433219920 396937 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you are, why? I'm also on a phone < 1433219934 181724 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Internet is down < 1433219953 763389 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you unplugged it and plugged it back in < 1433219989 923789 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care enough < 1433220020 673879 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, brb < 1433220029 192308 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Determining where to put certain strings at random intervels into a stack is very weird < 1433220063 790139 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have cable phone < 1433220078 60036 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't risk losing that < 1433220083 202325 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you showing us again¿ < 1433220104 586548 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433220114 735692 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fourfuck thing < 1433220126 655044 :Elronnd!~elronnd@duckbot.xd.cm PART :#esoteric < 1433220166 473895 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me ssh into my web server, where I was in the process of copying the files there < 1433220169 669327 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1433220216 434435 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octopus (4FK+LCD1602 < 1433220221 122041 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1433220234 191115 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433220257 922114 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat QUIT :Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.20 < 1433220261 995781 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433220276 601607 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿¿¿ < 1433220297 153108 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening? < 1433220463 560126 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently someone converted all the DF tilesets to ttf fonts. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=1922 < 1433220529 877783 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1433220550 560126 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to sif.lesidhetree.com < 1433220638 495731 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEROY JEEEENKIIINS < 1433220641 292982 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways < 1433220659 800494 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice set of brainfuck four king < 1433220683 358774 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The connection was refused < 1433220684 199583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me to see the .txt file when you are completely finish with it; right now I am not interest to loo at right now < 1433220764 290641 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what oren < 1433220827 453384 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet ssh < 1433220837 183940 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :But didn't you say telnet is unsafe < 1433220854 522069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet does not have security. < 1433220858 599630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH does. < 1433220870 521807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean telnet is unsafe < 1433220891 211185 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/i9hMA.png < 1433220913 547484 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :So telnet is crap security wise but ssh helps < 1433220930 892107 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/6apsrm5ej/ <-- playing DF over ssh & GNU screen! < 1433220967 263886 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coonection was refused when trying to go to sif.lesidhetree.com < 1433220970 934591 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :;0 < 1433220997 923675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Telnet, like HTTP and Gopher and SMTP and IRC and so on, is not a secure protocol; this means that data is not encrypted. SSH encrypts the data and has other security features, in order to improve the security. < 1433221000 353181 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? why? < 1433221027 446819 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea? < 1433221052 153344 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1433221060 367474 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I mispelled it that's why < 1433221066 375274 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine for me < 1433221066 874476 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren, its because of those amazing unheard if dog breeds < 1433221093 615670 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/of < 1433221150 425806 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka is it complete < 1433221172 541329 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433221182 394105 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowhere near complete < 1433221218 792199 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what are you doing here?! Go complete it < 1433221230 655297 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :major changes may have to happen for it to work with cuttlefish < 1433221251 918405 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a shipment of parts < 1433221271 491021 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrives wednesday < 1433221271 666731 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me about cuttle and shell fish later < 1433221275 93012 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1433221634 916192 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish and calamari < 1433221726 551298 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, 4FK now has nothing in common with bf < 1433221751 570263 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :change I have to make < 1433221754 331590 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can dee that < 1433221759 838388 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :See* < 1433221808 285255 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I never updated the wiki < 1433221845 334389 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it's less esolang and more machine code < 1433221858 74181 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hh < 1433221876 147032 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1433222263 202026 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1433222283 913148 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433222291 409018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it say "error: 'Sample' has no member named 'data'" even though it does have that member? (I get the same error for all of the other members) < 1433222338 774950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I figured out now < 1433224388 172002 :password2!~password@197.77.1.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433224578 861533 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1433225097 384399 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433225134 703005 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PART :#esoteric < 1433225138 204328 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433226894 533451 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433227271 529498 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1433230079 451470 :Nihilumbra!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhuxbhasrietiivd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433231725 379937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1433233734 459519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/akjGQLo.png < 1433233752 553974 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433233916 252896 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433233955 190463 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different one I gave compat mode, and it bluescreened me < 1433234110 620853 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433234265 675856 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433234992 116765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433235300 635495 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my pal fungot? < 1433235423 780923 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need his opinion on the implication of lisp-like languages in the modern world on frequency of parentheses in text messages on social networks from people that are married to computer linguists. < 1433235660 354734 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, Dwarf fortress fonts make text very compact on screen < 1433235944 700574 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433235950 835480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: There. < 1433235982 168265 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your opinion on the implication of lisp-like languages in the modern world on frequency of parentheses in text messages on social networks from people that are married to computer linguists. < 1433235982 383941 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: neilv what portion of the package that the macro then < 1433236294 804954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433236295 20012 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433236317 553406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1433236317 729059 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1433236329 388207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did you or didn't you? < 1433236329 869611 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: attached you will find that the same i/ ii kay as mentioned on a voicemail i left you on thursday on the robert trent, f) class 2002-04 meeting times: how democrats love the new source review which requires the use of the commission < 1433236623 128375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your favorite Burlesque program? < 1433236623 343888 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it is the only two, we are to stress on the household and the next few years.??) < 1433236629 949542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is ln)XXtp)><)F:)<]u[/v\[ < 1433236876 778094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it however only really works if and only if one and exactly one permutation is missing < 1433236993 756742 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name NICK :APic < 1433237006 772859 :APic!apic@apic.name NICK :APic\splat < 1433237748 332797 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433239280 955265 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:523:5d01:6004:f14:f0f8:af4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433240779 446076 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433242433 942991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433243018 96116 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433243321 858636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Esowiki201529A14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43129&oldid=42826 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+31) 10/* base 7 system */ new section < 1433244130 635581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CYCLICAL CHICKEN < 1433246006 660979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433246922 651692 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433248647 120372 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433248980 518777 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1433249348 322632 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433249372 903195 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433249839 460500 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250144 603487 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250213 554710 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433250680 598381 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433252009 418149 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433252491 982990 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433253201 427714 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433254024 375870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't you hate people that don't use -Wall -Werror --std=c89 -pedantic? < 1433254024 588003 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: public opinion of the in air of discontent is reflecting on a couple of years." bc: sheila a knudsen in ena had is whether it will/ hou/ ect on 10/ 10. < 1433254045 467153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433254090 909401 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :C89? What is this, 1989? < 1433254169 964017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433254217 185051 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-std=c11 -Weverything -Werror < 1433254226 48231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Whatever < 1433254237 245162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warns for every occurrence of the xor operator. < 1433254275 960772 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Whenever < 1433254280 706038 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warns for every occurrence of chickens. < 1433254444 652815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no. But I hate the people that try to claim that by using a couple of compiler switches like that they have magically proved that their program is standards compliant. < 1433254479 10542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that would depend on how good the compiler is at rejecting non standard compliant programs < 1433254494 830228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at detecting UB < 1433254500 707722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: and solving the halting problem < 1433254518 536650 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other impossible things < 1433254555 111642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the halting problem? < 1433254594 724911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of runtime overflows? < 1433254615 91121 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compiler could just assume that every addition overflows :) < 1433254634 111597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and require you to do bounds checking before every one of them. < 1433254644 627871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: more for using dangling pointers < 1433254656 32333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, overflows too if you wish < 1433254694 282074 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1433254704 252291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc surely could employ some of the stuff the rust compiler does :) < 1433254733 241675 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1433254734 695610 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1433254758 97623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you could interpret most of the stuff in some more well-behaved programs for a particular run, but you can't check for all input, < 1433254776 398604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even for a fixed input, the program could run for riddiculously long time so you can't run it to completion in practice, < 1433254798 374926 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was refering to doing more strict compile-time analytics. < 1433254804 127488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't check if it will dereference a dangling pointer like 2**2**100 seconds later. < 1433254833 379829 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that doesn't really work well with C. < 1433254855 625729 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like seeing compiler warnings < 1433254864 809367 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems suspicious :) < 1433254871 887406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1433255149 445215 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255431 216253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Teightath/blob/master/src/types.c#L42 <- I'd whish gcc would produce a warning for these things as well < 1433255615 716475 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes this means I'm back in the esolang business :) < 1433255644 818421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm intending on writing a GolfVM in the usual VM style < 1433255653 698325 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not relying on too much runtime dynamic < 1433255665 489450 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meaning no eval capabilities and such) < 1433255701 828587 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255743 917944 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433255926 209381 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433255940 541938 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433256027 786941 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433256075 644894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43130&oldid=43063 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+813) 10A little update...more coming very soon. < 1433256175 508783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43131&oldid=43051 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+375) 10added a little disclaimer < 1433257203 286389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43132&oldid=43130 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (+66) 10/* Operators */ Edited some stuff < 1433257308 402559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257329 848198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43133&oldid=43132 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (-232) 10/* Example programs */ < 1433257392 218635 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433257405 911331 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257555 274194 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433257575 272998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43134&oldid=43133 5* 03Lesidhetree 5* (-727) 10Removed a few sections I felt couldn't be filled in yet. < 1433257732 77186 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433257777 150595 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine...edited th wiki < 1433258185 376709 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433258205 445817 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I was wondering if you know of any esoteric programming tools < 1433258211 419787 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like IDES, etc < 1433258729 880136 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433258931 471758 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433259234 671550 :jakob__!c1ab9be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.171.155.230 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1433260464 964125 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433260533 367196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 989 < 1433260548 887943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 989: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1433260756 498020 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433260757 72804 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1433260763 780544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally connected < 1433261191 680559 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1433261341 633148 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JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265800 354711 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433265872 990718 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433265906 339924 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266007 717478 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266081 807145 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266197 316560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433266202 509527 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266227 314592 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433266315 229556 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433266342 696970 :password2!~password@197.77.32.47 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1433268128 219441 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:523:5d01:6004:f14:f0f8:af4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1433268147 629919 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1433269062 276374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433269653 280745 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433269979 368486 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, did the C standards people know they were asking the compiler to solve the halting problem? < 1433270029 115692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't Turing-complete, so probably not. < 1433270087 810357 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is not infinitly extendable? < 1433270096 249898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it can be, nothing in the definition of files prevents them being infinitely long < 1433270099 37373 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitely i meant. < 1433270101 549751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the only sticking point < 1433270108 186616 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 wins. < 1433270113 965686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. If C is compiled for a computer with 64K ram, could a modern computer detect all cases of overflow? < 1433270147 861939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought the C99 definition of files didn't allow for infinitely long files. < 1433270162 141358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can always get the current position. < 1433270167 160318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a file position's an opaque object, though < 1433270177 697664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that only places a limit on how many times you can request the file position < 1433270181 45584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it require off_t to be an integer of some kind? < 1433270184 327799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it still has to fit in memory. < 1433270197 331442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off_t is a struct on some systems, I think < 1433270206 614744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a file position? yes, but it doesn't have to be meaningful < 1433270234 833231 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well that sure fucks up some code i've written! < 1433270249 782098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are two file position functions < 1433270288 397485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one returns an integer but might not work on large files < 1433270291 936796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other returns an opaque struct < 1433270327 507844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the integers are allowed to be opaque too, and are on some weird platforms < 1433270329 227585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but aren't on POSIX < 1433270387 723587 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :structs!! < 1433270457 539217 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seems that GCC does us the service of saying they are integers. < 1433270484 477076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc just reacts to what the type actually is < 1433270492 251300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than what it potentially could be < 1433270520 576955 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. I mean glibc not gcc < 1433270578 417903 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I was using the integerness to skip to particular files within an archive and read them < 1433270636 976601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common, and if you open the file as a binary file, nearly always works < 1433270692 602993 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433270929 206798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433270956 961631 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1433270959 262850 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Not having to be meaningful fucks up Your Code? What the Fuck? < 1433270983 947680 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :.o0(Platform Games vs. Racing Games) < 1433270984 358070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck" is a noun? < 1433270988 286002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought it was a verb < 1433270989 580437 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Idea. < 1433270989 806436 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433270993 764819 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am no native Speaker. < 1433271022 596185 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn] has both Noun and Verb. < 1433271051 470534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, English doesn't have a rule of capitalizing nouns anyway, so it normally doesn't matter which it is when you're using "fuck" as part of an interjection < 1433271057 668681 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :„Adam knew Eve” < 1433271071 153580 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/”/“/ < 1433271076 673167 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1433271079 978440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you are at least consistent about it, and it gives you a style of your own < 1433271087 19835 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1433271210 383371 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433271328 561461 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433271555 308752 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck can be a noun or verb. < 1433271820 132951 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1433273290 883980 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: where does the C standard ask the compiler to solve the halting problem? < 1433273291 96079 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433273314 244767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you want to make table/infobox/etc on wiki, you should try to do data-oriented coding, such as to allow to put SQL codes or RDF graphs (or both) with each page, and then other templates and pages can query it. < 1433274221 915973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ais523: off_t (which is part of POSIX, not C) does need to be an integral type. fpos_t, which is what fgetpos/fsetpos use, can be something more complicated. < 1433274261 43392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aha < 1433274369 772748 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So C is Turing-complete. < 1433274376 799362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(off_t is used by the file-descriptor-level lseek and some others.) < 1433274411 23725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be something more complicated which represents an unbounded position in a file? < 1433274416 107690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic\splat: bleh, you're confusing me, both of those nouns /are/ capitalized naturally in English < 1433274426 983136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the sentence doesn't look any different from normal ;-) < 1433274450 643008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C is an abbreviation, Turing is a person's name) < 1433274462 721355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "C" standard < 1433274496 394650 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is C an abbreviation? < 1433274522 844945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a letter out of "BCPL", allegedly. < 1433274535 528998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's the second letter of "BCPL" which stands for "Basic Computer Programming Language" < 1433274543 61538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined, not Computer. < 1433274549 808244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming Wikipedia is right.) < 1433274552 260516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I guess you're right there < 1433274556 362698 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I did not know that. < 1433274561 510476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess that C is an abbreviation for Combined < 1433274565 411392 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATWP! ATWP! < 1433274567 34536 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck! < 1433274570 403506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book I learned compiler construction from had most of its examples in BCPL < 1433274581 448863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting language, with some pretty bizarrely named keywords < 1433274595 766005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "test then or" rather than "if then else" < 1433274607 335811 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably nothing can be more complicated than the „C-Standard“. < 1433274625 147499 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When does real English use "else" to mean "otherwise"? < 1433274632 775567 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433274653 712497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's colloquial, I think < 1433274664 220626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really correct but you hear it in casual conversation sometimes < 1433274735 807328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think some old language uses "whentrue" and "whenfalse" but I'm not sure < 1433274741 620785 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for "then" and "else" < 1433274768 73191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably one of those old languages that still have three-way equal-greater-less branches < 1433274768 248992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's INTERCAL levels of verbosity :-) < 1433274782 182733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, those are single tokens, single column on the card < 1433274791 369364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk? < 1433274797 478116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1433274800 944381 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1433274801 120146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's ifTrue: ifFalse: < 1433274808 575587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, maybe that < 1433274876 995000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth has the words 'if', 'then' and 'else', but due to the "syntax", it can sound a bit strange when read, since the equivalent of C a(); if (b()) then c(); else d(); e(); looks somewhat like a b IF c ELSE d THEN e < 1433274904 100964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep < 1433274909 132535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some people use 'ENDIF' in place of 'THEN' because of that.) < 1433274922 932395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not much worse than python's in-expression conditional though < 1433274934 29720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :new style, not golf and-or < 1433274947 754816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that look exactly these days? < 1433274979 698677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the one where "a ? b : c" maps to "b if a else c". < 1433275012 385469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is ridiculous hth < 1433275024 989790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a and b or c" is possibly clearer, although it doesn't work if b is falsy < 1433275033 357965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can look exceedingly silly if you mix it with comprehensions, which also have the 'if' condition for filtering. < 1433275062 296098 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was "b if a else c" introduced in 2 or 3? < 1433275085 808033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having a nested x for e in l for x in e thing can be nasty too. < 1433275093 423958 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's still in 3, then I think that's reason enough to pull a Python 3 a second time. < 1433275121 958330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen Forth systems with THEN built-in, ENDIF built-in, both built-in, and neither built-in (but one or the other defined in the standard library); still if you have THEN or ENDIF you can easily define the other if you want it. (I have seen one that has ENDIF built-in but defines THEN in the standard library to have the same meaning as ENDIF does.) < 1433275131 394324 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it would be called... < 1433275134 395203 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Python Threedux" < 1433275151 946339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[x for s in l for x in s] is arguably an "idiom" for flattening l. < 1433275226 735072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'l = [(1, 2), (3, 4, 5), (6, 7)]; print [x for s in l for x in s]' < 1433275231 351353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] < 1433275272 710178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = [[1,2],[3,4,5],[6,7]] in [x | s <- l, x <- s] < 1433275275 539755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7] < 1433275277 623136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell's do-notation is like a kind of generalization of that though < 1433275289 732733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is not limit to lists < 1433275375 644389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and there's qbasic, which doesn't usually ignore spaces, but defines ENDIF and END IF as equivalent for historical reasons < 1433275416 80817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that < 1433275419 982540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but BASIC generally has crazy keywords < 1433275426 242141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the QBASIC IDE if you type "ENDIF" it will automatically change it to "END IF" < 1433275450 639495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only if you enable autoformatting, the default, which also changes a = b + c to a=b + c < 1433275456 85765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I turn that off < 1433275457 455352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you type a question mark it will replace it with "PRINT" for you. However, the compiler doesn't accept a question mark. (The FreeBasic compiler does, but the QuickBasic compiler doesn't accept it) < 1433275476 559172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler doesn't accept the question mark? strange < 1433275485 55105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question mark has been along for like forever < 1433275502 366272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as character-based free syntax basic probably < 1433275509 334163 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyevmblttymnzaxo JOIN :#esoteric < 1433275524 857360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC also changes square brackets into parentheses < 1433275529 612141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the commodore 64 which allows print or pri or pR iirc < 1433275545 459020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what? I never tried that < 1433275550 107986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do square brackets even come from? < 1433275555 728586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those used in any basic? < 1433275565 914780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme test that < 1433275568 280270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but if you type in square brackets that is what it does. < 1433275636 689877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that the compiler doesn't accept ? would be strange because the immediate window does, and that window doesn't do autoformat < 1433275638 379012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compiler and IDE use a few differences in what it accepts. Only the IDE accepts a question mark for PRINT, and only the compiler accepts an underscore for line continuation. < 1433275650 432345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, I know the immediate window accepts it < 1433275681 337803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without autoformatting it accepts ? in place of PRINT < 1433275760 25166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... where do I toggle autoformatting? there's a "Syntax Checking" option but that doesn't seem to do this < 1433275774 126948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do't think there is actually such an option < 1433275801 704784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it actually inserts spaces around assignment < 1433275805 153428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what I remembered < 1433275815 366315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main window (unless it is a "document" file type, used in QBX) will always do autoformatting, although sometimes it forgets to autoformat I don't know why < 1433275840 567169 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp i did 10!! by mistake < 1433275854 184935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an option that both turned off autoformatting and let you see all subs at once as a single text? < 1433275871 607031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: press control-C or click the interrupt button < 1433275880 852057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: what language and ide? < 1433275888 547239 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Playing with Factor. < 1433275897 760137 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made the poor listener go to sleep. < 1433275902 516138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 < 1433275922 651169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: At least in QBX, if you tell it to load an additional file and tell it that the file is a "document", it will do that. However, it will not execute the file in that case. < 1433275935 342361 :wundo!~textual@drupal.org/user/25523/view QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1433275963 427029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, this was long ago, I don't remember < 1433275998 118364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I just have to edit with an external editor and run with qbasic /run < 1433276012 605622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that will do it < 1433276102 852987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still program DOS games in QBASIC. With a free implementation and the minimal emulation stuff to need, it can be done with that way too. If people try to do such thing I can even try to help with such thing too < 1433276125 284207 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433276195 191805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made exactly one dos game in qbasic, it's not a very good one, its first two or three level works but then the last level is completely buggy or something because I didn't finish it < 1433276217 370500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a lot though < 1433276239 533530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have a couple of non-games < 1433276254 898416 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433276361 768998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a clone of the entire OASYS text-adventure-game system in QBASIC (this is because I had neither a disk nor a C compiler on the target computer) (it is even compatible with the official implementation too, except for save files) < 1433276389 1085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433278690 981457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... actually maybe all four levels work, sort of, and the game can be won, but the guy on the fourth level can shoots big bullets that show up for just one frame and always hit or something. < 1433278711 179424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also usually dodges the bullets you fire, but that's a feature. < 1433278720 432519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why he's the boss. < 1433278763 847548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's no double buffering so the whole thing flickers constantly as the screen is cleared and redrawn < 1433278885 386992 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433278888 14447 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433278999 78876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let me try to add double-buffering < 1433279003 270536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be a five line fix < 1433279036 928991 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433279326 787408 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433279389 771149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it does try to do double buffering, only somehow doesn't work < 1433279391 375759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see why < 1433279464 948573 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433279916 911216 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433280244 613925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand < 1433280798 951836 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1433281486 285180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1433281517 186846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo'list < 1433282461 112571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.mezzacotta.net/dinosaur/?comic=128 < 1433282557 895725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh, I was wondering earlier if mezacotta / lightning made of owls / etc. were still running < 1433282567 231549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess mezzacotta itself is still running by definition < 1433282576 788264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps it's effectively repeating itself all the time < 1433282589 720409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning made of owls is a bit slow, although it's been picking up a little this week < 1433282591 644461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there were like four new strips on lmmo this month, but not much before that < 1433282601 485224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's always running in the sense that it accepts submissions < 1433282611 907439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should draw some stick figures and submit there too < 1433282649 879484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: however, it's got 2 new comics recently, one of which i just linked to. < 1433282682 354429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/ which is pretty weird, also unusually _not_ made by DMM at all < 1433282683 969519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: luckily, there's a solution: a knife like in http://www.xkcd.com/248/ can get you out of not only a parenthetical or quote, but even a multipart mime file that has a delimiter that was chosen randomly and then you forgot it < 1433282686 354088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even heard of "the dinosaur whiteboard" < 1433282698 425258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: new this year < 1433282703 78280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it's new < 1433282715 191580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see its about page or something < 1433282721 534477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/dinosaur/about.php < 1433282840 276161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, dmm decided to get on patreon, which was successful enought that he has started making new irregular webcomics < 1433282858 520985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not successful enough that he started making new esolangs? < 1433282871 374129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he advertised that possibility. < 1433282884 320293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was quite open-ended about new projects < 1433282892 238006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find it < 1433282907 437352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.patreon.com/dmmaus?ty=h "Other website diversions - bloggy things, gamey things, arty things." < 1433282910 595120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433282919 370275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arty things" -- dunno < 1433282957 509904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daniel temkin has a blog which I think is mostly looking at the concept of esolangs as an art form < 1433282962 308623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, square root of minus garfield is healthy as ever, the average backlog is several months < 1433282989 668293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't like about his Parteon support thing is that it seems a bit dishonest: < 1433283053 80610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with new Irregular Webcomic strips, his most popular project currently is Darths and Droids, and that's the one why people are going to support it, but he specifically doesn't advertise the Parteon donations on the Darths and Droids page because there's a very slim chance Disney might not like that < 1433283110 956088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, he started the Parteon donation drive with a news entry saying he "hasn't made a cent" from the comics before, or something, when he's specifically asked for no money, and all support to charity instead < 1433283111 645146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i find this bizarre http://www.mezzacotta.net/blockandroll/ < 1433283120 304776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1526.html is a joke of course) < 1433283120 480542 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: unexpected < 1433283120 656381 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Operator without known fixity: < 1433283120 656440 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ://, expected: space < 1433283120 656463 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1526.html is a joke of course) < 1433283120 656483 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1433283158 361319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that one is older than darths & droids, anyhow < 1433283166 278733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure < 1433283168 996237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and older than disney's takeover < 1433283181 64901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1433283185 7303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iwc doesn't use screencaps < 1433283188 156778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a big difference < 1433283197 274849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have had a few low resolution photos of book covers of course < 1433283217 275865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/147.html is quite funny < 1433283229 89976 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait I maen http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/108.html < 1433283265 68704 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433283409 445739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Planet of the Hats is still on, but has some breaks when dmm is on a vacation < 1433283962 244247 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284119 313822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, esolangs. I don't need to deliberately create esolangs, because I find so many esoteric corners of langs not intended to be esoteric. < 1433284131 225656 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284136 508220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to understand those corners, and use them. < 1433284216 912232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you like languages like compile time C++? < 1433284231 294313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433284265 202630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not compile-time-only C++, but run-time C++ with a lot of things done in compile time < 1433284277 378908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, even compile time C++ amazes me < 1433284289 886972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that recent stateful constexpr function trick < 1433284318 857936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood evenily < 1433284319 696646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is crazy and people might even consider it a defect in the standard that should be fixed, I dunno < 1433284450 841828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that trick actually work on compilers? < 1433284462 883174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, but I suspect it does < 1433284476 899290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on recent compilers < 1433284524 408907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, what do you count as "work" < 1433284555 308120 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433284560 681247 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think it would work fsvo work, but I haven't tested < 1433284729 251662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433284827 948486 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :børjan sørjan. < 1433284833 53427 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1433284833 229148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 23h 35m 53s ago: what do you think of smoke's poutinerie twh < 1433284833 229203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 23h 29m 10s ago: NOOO don't leave i cannot interpret your xsampa even with wikipedia :( < 1433284833 229248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 23h 22m 42s ago: My two theories are: (1) you're trying to write bonsoerjan but have no idea what the phonetic symbols mean (2) you're actually using some african click language with a slight misprint on the 0 < 1433284883 865379 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. never wen't to. apparently very divisive, therefore a must. < 1433284914 294630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's one a short walk away from where i live < 1433284920 779520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem to be my thing < 1433284924 286193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe i should try again < 1433284925 469712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wrote bonsœrjan, with some creatively inserted clicks. < 1433284959 974250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: afaik, there aren't any smoke's in Québec. I'd have to go to Ontario. < 1433284968 615889 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro. have you ever smoke'sed? < 1433284973 365370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or berkeley hth < 1433285034 923971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should come visit and have some poutine < 1433285043 709362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley,_Ontario ? < 1433285044 35990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also one in mont-tremblant hth < 1433285051 794985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah bin! < 1433285066 275243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley,_California < 1433285079 173530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285144 450603 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285180 478028 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's ones around here < 1433285182 868947 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nova scotia < 1433285194 572181 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's one in halifax at least < 1433285436 79068 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433285492 543357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyellos. have I ever asked you the The Question? < 1433285566 847223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did i ever answer? < 1433285577 610896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, so i don't need to update my answer now that i've moved < 1433285603 818238 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you never did. you are probably the Most Reluctantest Person about the The Question. < 1433285634 78303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what my body weigh is < 1433285654 189732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what's written on my government identity card, but they didn't actually weigh me, they just believed what i wrote < 1433285664 23608 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha! < 1433285670 782365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wrote it based on what was written on my previous government identity card < 1433285675 919364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was 6 years ago < 1433285705 184985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 7 < 1433285707 976800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who knows < 1433285740 316907 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433285756 72930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin can give you an estimate, maybe < 1433285764 600218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so basically it contains your birth weight, right? < 1433285765 822595 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write in you weight as '7 years ago'. < 1433285783 918509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way, i'm not telling you what's written on that card < 1433285790 96843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could steal my identity < 1433285815 724136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna dress like a baby and pretend to be you on haskell conferences! < 1433285823 737912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't remember ever being born hth < 1433285831 440155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow you too? < 1433285834 858168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, you're going to haskell conferences? < 1433285840 794279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones? < 1433285850 186355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'd have to start < 1433285863 71451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should come to bayhac < 1433285872 258790 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433285877 602424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jun 12, mountain view, ca < 1433285886 683329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12-24 < 1433285888 619064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12-14 < 1433285890 413686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1433285915 223484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily can come too < 1433286127 196326 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no I haven't smoked sed < 1433286139 535533 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh we mean the poutine place? < 1433286141 82496 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433286443 327308 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433286592 242917 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433286813 733699 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My arms or kinda sore < 1433286816 40914 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1433286871 921293 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I went climbing this afternoon for the first time in ages) < 1433286918 921619 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Banquise, then? < 1433286925 874934 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. rock climbing? < 1433286943 210151 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, bouldering to be precise < 1433287020 495858 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! do you boulder in groups? < 1433287037 154516 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went with some friends, yeah < 1433287043 536289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably gonna go back next week, too < 1433287066 117582 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433287131 869408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I need to exercise more < 1433287274 988102 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody know where vanila went? >.> < 1433287615 326575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen vanila < 1433287615 540003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw vanila leaving ##crypto 12d 47m 21s ago. < 1433287644 384561 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a sketchy room... < 1433287665 766927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be sketchy when lambdabot is there < 1433287668 60005 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Banquise I've had < 1433287674 196512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crypto is great because sometimes people join and try to sell bitcoin scams. < 1433287676 64180 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also quite like Les Trois Brasseurs' poutine < 1433287699 62209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Unfortunately those aren't options here. < 1433287707 494485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be doing a module in crypto next year < 1433287730 267752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where is here? < 1433287733 394177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: my favourite here is the Broue Pub's Poutiflette. it's a mix between a poutine, and a Swiss tartiflette. < 1433287736 885279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berkeley, CA < 1433287739 992627 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: interesting < 1433287744 578800 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, I imagine it isn't < 1433287756 481262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoke's is an option, though. < 1433287814 377159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but you should taste my friend's poutineer: you start with a poutine layer, then top it with homemade egg curry. < 1433287836 22494 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poutine < 1433287861 670809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poutine was Pouti and boily's sister until the tragic cheese accident. < 1433287868 991561 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1433287883 809965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine is just jammed up french fries < 1433287886 738560 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom < 1433287888 684498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, what is poutine?) < 1433287909 872170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, jammed up as in you put jam on them? < 1433287918 228380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you don't jam them up with jam < 1433287928 361100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what are "cheese curds" then < 1433287929 468911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with some sort of gravy < 1433287932 555539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287934 89477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list/list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun! < 1433287947 915891 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, it's like chips and gravy < 1433287958 367744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, out of date < 1433287961 966807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287962 964149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans/fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1433287968 525460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433287971 962436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorem ipsum/Business Internet the it China Product Product NATO < 1433287973 948241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433287981 253193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I haven't had any fentimans in ages < 1433287984 708601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since like monday < 1433287985 738780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it seems to be similar to coffee cheese < 1433287998 851159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? croissont supplier < 1433287999 627748 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See misspellings of croissant < 1433288018 62708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1433288019 18893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433288040 74115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want poutine now < 1433288044 335366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I don't like gravy < 1433288050 640075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: come to berkeley and get some hth < 1433288066 365658 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm busy until next monday < 1433288067 761673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a grave mistake < 1433288117 795829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ok next monday then < 1433288118 165487 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433288120 28864 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: real poutine has poutine sauce. it's similar to a light bbq sauce. cheese curds should be fresh, and squeak under your teeth. < 1433288139 160538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hmm, that could work < 1433288139 518817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does real vegetarian poutine have < 1433288148 658099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :squeaking in terror < 1433288159 147477 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, can you pay my bus fare? I'm a bit low on funds < 1433288170 15904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other transport costs < 1433288176 492038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: from the airport? sure < 1433288190 862337 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but the airport is like all the way on the other side of Leeds < 1433288244 201072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you also pay my bus fare to the airport < 1433288274 331387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds reasonable < 1433288279 745075 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well... potatoes is vegetarian, sauce is vegetarian, cheese is vegetarian too... I guess you could replace the cheese with tofu, but I doubt it's going to be strong or stringy enough for the poutine mélange. < 1433288284 838783 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps a natt < 1433288287 935879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauce is vegetarian? < 1433288292 22677 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ō poutine should do the trick?) < 1433288298 344540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually poutine sauce isn't as far as i can tell < 1433288301 937727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1433288327 350037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grilled flour, paprika, cumin, lots of water, a little bit of ketchup, more paprika? < 1433288340 669490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, no gravy in the gravy sauce? < 1433288350 293468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brown gravy: Traditionally a light and thin chicken, veal, or turkey gravy" < 1433288359 506950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/flour,/flour, margarine,/ < 1433288371 698547 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine sauce isn't brown gravy. it's poutine sauce. < 1433288382 174602 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tsé, messemble que c't'ivident...) < 1433288394 303118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke's has poutine and also vegetarian poutine < 1433288404 29497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deluxe vegetarian poutine < 1433288409 775667 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? < 1433288412 59756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had the deluxe but maybe i should try the ordinary < 1433288434 365647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433288468 531542 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might go with a vegetable stock instead in the gravy. That'd *work*. < 1433288484 825180 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that "poutine sauce" is *a* gravy. < 1433288504 846675 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not exactly matching what you'd typically want from a brown gravy. < 1433288517 192126 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternoon < 1433288517 984133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433288523 624859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433288524 965904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :languabe/Languabes are edible and fun. They provide a quick implementation energy boost! < 1433288525 601169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1433288526 489884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1433288528 803716 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1433288529 707790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1433288564 666503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433288566 89358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti/kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity < 1433288580 164497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1433288582 876116 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1433288583 51837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'fternoon': Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1433288583 725999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​˻