< 1430611565 303834 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430611573 423176 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1430611636 495508 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1430611750 322166 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1430612208 336223 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430612350 937067 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1 < 1430612369 297039 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430612379 380005 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1430612479 117755 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1430612500 638370 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430612503 476319 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1430614302 995572 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's a big boxing match right now < 1430614602 576092 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430614739 694110 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.69.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430614885 280933 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430616187 907270 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430616508 910149 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1430616653 903557 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430616680 201760 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1430616694 127046 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I customize rxvt? < 1430617747 708903 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1430617873 978522 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS "Teal" pink! < 1430618151 804227 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.69.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teal sounds blue, doesn't it. It does for me at least. < 1430618562 202070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jelehfish 5* 10New user account < 1430618809 135848 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean when I set a color in RXVT to be "Teal" it comes out as some sort of pink < 1430618838 115527 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dark Cyan" comes out correctly though < 1430618988 951876 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently pink is the default when it can't parse a color < 1430619559 714593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430620195 200753 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1430620221 649911 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1430620511 569068 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1430621731 761350 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430622280 239657 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1430622358 572198 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430623958 406869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430624007 656551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430624020 836630 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430624049 677302 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430624187 694132 :jelehfish!6247cf9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.71.207.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430625758 396655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430625807 912124 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430625822 379625 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430625849 930491 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430626242 3412 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1430626698 585437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there is a way to load RDF graphs into tables or infoboxes for MediaWiki? < 1430626857 938319 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is wrong with my connection? < 1430626958 378407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430626986 586188 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430627048 286036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1430627061 565707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made up a pack of .XI instruments < 1430627362 35658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I used OpenMPT and it adds a lot of junk on the end of each file < 1430627477 985180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately AmigaMML will ignore the junk on the end (and hopefully other programs can ignore it too), but still it uses up disk space < 1430627885 757240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to add a table to a Redmine wiki? < 1430627918 478366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430627946 462406 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430627946 814291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind I figured it out < 1430628425 486930 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :openmpt makes .it files? < 1430628725 759335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes it can but also .xm and .xi and .mod and .s3m and .iti and .mptm < 1430628883 511229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the same things modplug tracker does < 1430628896 982129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an old copy of an openmpt archive on my external hard drive < 1430628903 645081 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i ever tried to use it < 1430628925 25703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says i downloaded it in 2004 < 1430629074 983148 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my network connection keeps sending corrupt bits or something < 1430629478 308808 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430629508 437136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430630258 189923 :password2!~password@197.77.61.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430630438 365804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430630465 477241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430630468 287388 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would you like another song to try out < 1430630918 298791 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430630948 481169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430631158 332308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430631206 505586 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430631227 626888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430631255 766454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430631392 492919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1430631395 86801 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1430631585 590549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42779&oldid=42633 5* 03T.J.S.1 5* (+879) 10Added ><> < 1430631607 196090 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qtvfabdupmmdwpwh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1430631880 53164 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e JOIN :#esoteric < 1430632015 604308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430632087 360474 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e QUIT :Client Quit < 1430632129 960215 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e JOIN :#esoteric < 1430632150 248425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430632180 390 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e JOIN :#esoteric < 1430632191 830597 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430632221 44174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e JOIN :#esoteric < 1430632240 432864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430632268 997725 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e JOIN :#esoteric < 1430632541 589297 :jelehfish!6247cf9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.71.207.155 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1430632698 493990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: To try out what, exactly? What are you asking about? < 1430632718 311298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want some songs < 1430632719 314004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, OpenMPT is ModPlug Tracker < 1430632723 292137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1430633419 427356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which program have you used for .MOD/.XM/.IT/.S3M stuff? I want to make the compare table < 1430633889 350749 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:44c2:a85f:0:d948:8aab:5e00:596e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430633916 72071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430634320 775881 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430634489 205471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430634515 185980 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430634636 734583 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ever used modplug tracker < 1430634796 42258 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1430635097 671659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did start to make up the compare table https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Compare_features but it is hardly complete by now; if you have information to contribute then please to do so. < 1430635146 257978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, AmigaMML does not use a GUI and the other two listed so far require the GUI < 1430635279 390831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430636348 150299 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1430636558 131988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: MPT can also export mp3s iirc < 1430636602 17591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you are right it can < 1430636627 170686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't added the section for rendering yet though < 1430637741 601246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1430637762 257229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to document the original Impulse Tracker < 1430637838 73932 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65E.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1430637941 105623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about it < 1430638079 620549 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1430639932 385604 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.69.149 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1430640403 929216 :password2!~password@197.77.61.180 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430641024 934002 :password2!~password@197.77.62.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430641145 152664 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430641690 133309 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.69.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430642202 323389 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1430642330 882590 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430642503 127220 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1 < 1430642575 204328 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430642584 958935 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1430644649 470168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430644704 611696 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1430647348 205872 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430647404 412704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430648902 354485 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1430649726 496306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430649899 310321 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430651111 963393 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1430651604 968515 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1430651614 380708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :nvd < 1430652592 825980 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: could you make the documentation available in plaintext or HTML, in addition to .doc? < 1430652617 129583 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to elliott? < 1430652655 848945 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he ... left? < 1430652681 85263 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1430652926 263622 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.69.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430653355 725164 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430653510 410563 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430653510 704837 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it /is/ a plaintext document < 1430653520 495617 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind me < 1430653562 397358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1430653609 938409 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the web server serves them as Word documents, though) < 1430653729 557581 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430653932 646170 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430654283 465975 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1430654334 544793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430654375 838266 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430654799 389356 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1430655649 363681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Sounds like mimetype detection going wrong < 1430656877 604055 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1430658004 909296 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term for the particular format of plaintext that the RFC's are written in? < 1430658013 510003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1430658077 719551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdebath/deadbeef14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42780&oldid=40110 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+9) 10Small addition, get rid of silly license. < 1430658570 85421 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: compliant? < 1430658577 653568 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1430658579 748701 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1430658581 454714 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread < 1430659657 475757 :password2!~password@197.77.62.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1430659952 821985 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430660011 491640 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1430660028 871713 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430660647 814846 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jsfuck.com/ < 1430661342 373606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, mm < 1430661355 447605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Quit: wish me luck! < 1430661357 745432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is just packing js syntax into 6 characters? < 1430661528 887990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"packing" may not be the right term to use here < 1430661625 428502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1430661662 478511 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430662050 712761 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-36-67.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1430662088 105740 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-36-67.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1430662088 271626 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1430662779 355641 :password2!~password@197.77.62.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430663693 325695 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.224 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430663780 219304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you turn a non-pure (namely, it's not deterministic) function into a hole in the type system? < 1430663834 195861 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to make it concrete: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/QuickCheck-safe-0.1/docs/Test-QuickCheck-Safe-Trusted.html < 1430663970 787297 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sure, just like how UnsafePerformIO can pick a hole in the type system < 1430664051 586283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: take a non-deterministic value of type (Either Int [Int]), then make it return a right list once, then when the caller is sure it's returned a list, make it return a left integer so the caller tries to dereference the integer as a pointer when it traverses the list < 1430664056 56125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something of that sort < 1430664068 395001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not really work that way with Int, but that's the idea < 1430664207 747604 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in the next version I'll just hide those functions away. < 1430664239 261340 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... in fact ... < 1430664250 366004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let import Test.QuickCheck.Safe.Trusted < 1430664251 244762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:126:1: < 1430664251 411103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Test.QuickCheck.Safe.Trusted: Can't be safely imported! < 1430664251 411172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The package (QuickCheck-safe-0.1) the module resides in isn't trusted. < 1430664257 211919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be fine. < 1430664260 667639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hide in what sense? < 1430664269 435041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :behind an IO or other usual abstraction for nondeterminism? < 1430664285 397063 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type quickCheck < 1430664286 741899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :STestable prop => QuickCheck-2.8:Test.QuickCheck.Random.QCGen -> prop -> String < 1430664449 483457 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The trouble is that putting things in IO makes SafeHaskell useless. < 1430664459 717922 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I’m not sure what you mean by “once the caller is sure it’s returned a list, make it return …” < 1430664480 162852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yeah, that might not really work that way... I dunno < 1430664492 352796 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the caller going to call once to check and once to project? < 1430664516 6219 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, probably not < 1430664549 719972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And that's what happened with @check: Test.QuickCheck is *safe*, but code in lambdabot would have to run quickCheck somehow. And it's possible to embed arbitrary IO actions in a QuickCheck Property. < 1430664576 877596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does it involve imprecise exceptions? < 1430664630 278647 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should not, the exceptions should all be synchronous (really, they should all be error calls). < 1430665345 395631 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1430666311 779829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check True < 1430666313 204571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1430666898 385611 :password2!~password@197.77.62.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1430667064 350558 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430667497 910920 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1430667517 48218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it should pretty much look as before < 1430667599 928933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that ghc would probably be within its _rights_ to mess up anything that has a nondeterministic result, but probably doesn't do it to extent of evaluating it twice _and_ mixing information from the two branches... < 1430667613 804954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to the extent < 1430667639 575658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but honestly i don't know. < 1430667754 282465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, that was a lousy bugreport. "QuickCheck-safe-0.1 does not compile" ... yes. Sure. That happens if you blindly relax the lower bound on a package. < 1430667837 561823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your bug report does not compile" hth < 1430667881 495638 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did "fix" it in the end ... it turned out that QuickCheck-2.7 works fine except for one little function from 2.8 that I used. < 1430667926 72209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1430667960 651551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hopefully. let me verify that... < 1430667976 455632 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dependencies are hard. < 1430668026 135293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tested 2.7.6 which by PVP might have additional functions compared to 2.7...) < 1430668060 793720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Painful Versioning Policy < 1430668129 373266 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :API isn't the problem, safehaskell is... < 1430668141 237318 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Test.QuickCheck: Can't be safely imported!) < 1430668353 881225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.7.3 is the first working version... < 1430668394 249470 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430668806 231910 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430669189 877432 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh this font has lowercase numbers < 1430669207 960124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1430669228 241592 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430669275 968369 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like where 7 and 9 have lines that go down, and 6 goes up < 1430669363 881120 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok apparently they're supposed to be called "text figures" < 1430669501 486124 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/568661 < 1430670474 647487 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in German, the word “Variable” is a nouned adjective, and thus declines like an adjective. But some forms (the strong ones) are so rare I was genuinely confused when I encountered one. (Strong genitive plural, specifically.) < 1430670509 802234 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: oh < 1430670620 930677 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Oh my, sorry, I really, truly hadn’t noticed you and your name here before I said that. That was prompted entirely by seeing the unusual form again. < 1430670640 626041 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I learned something, so its all good < 1430670781 1338 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“exponentiell in der Anzahl Variabler” i.e. “exponential in the number of variables”, in reference to the running time of an algorithm. < 1430670805 988339 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"anzahl variabler" sounds plain wrong < 1430670817 361669 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"anzahl variablen" is what i would say < 1430671059 576554 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would too, but apparently this is not universal. < 1430671152 809630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think logically it should be Variabler, because der modifies Anzahl, not Variabler. take it from this norwegian. < 1430671257 439748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now tries to check what norwegian does
< 1430671317 530906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-198-142.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english you would have "the number of variables" which would suggest using genitive case, but swedish does it like the quoted german (antalet variabler) < 1430671343 651215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"antall variabler" 4370 hits"antall variable" 1170 hits < 1430671401 529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: note that in swedish and norwegian the -r ending is the nounlike one, while in german it's the unusually adjective-like one < 1430671435 759300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I would avoid the issue and say "in der Anzahl der Variablen" < 1430671449 70508 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1430671475 647246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and of course we scandinavians don't let the genitive get anywhere close of this < 1430671480 113101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to < 1430671501 56908 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about “in der Anzahl Veränderlicher”? < 1430671509 905762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-198-142.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so the variant with Variabler might be "exponential in the varying number" rather than "number of variables"? < 1430671607 375649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is addictive < 1430671623 148980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's not a varying number, it's a number of [things that vary] < 1430671666 981708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I'd never read "varying number" tho mean anything but a number that varies in English. < 1430671675 326343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/tho/to/ < 1430671731 314602 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Wegen Deiner [eigentlich: Deinetwegen, aber das geläufige "Wegen Dir" ist falsch.] haben wir jetzt eine Grammatikdiskussion, schäm dich. ;-) < 1430671761 320125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out "-zz-zip" < 1430671766 639122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i like "wegen deiner" :) < 1430671775 954937 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat was von "alexens" < 1430671787 159127 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve come up with that one myself independently I think. < 1430671847 800810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-198-142.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what would varying number be in german? < 1430671858 851501 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: eine veränderliche Zahl < 1430671865 991522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: word order and capitalization matters here < 1430671969 828525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm done with my one day of hacking on lambdabot (only took two days)... what next... < 1430671995 704524 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or “eine variable Anzahl”, to keep it as close as possible to the previous. “eine variable Anzahl Variable[nr]” is then “a variable number of variables”. < 1430672007 494789 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1430672034 723790 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant: Getting annoyed at the hilights? < 1430672052 929948 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the rate of highlights in this channel and others yeah < 1430672057 553148 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the same problem arises with “Konstante”. < 1430672059 803140 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I figured I'd pick a less common word < 1430672066 342471 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote no.variables < 1430672066 508215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cjs says: I have to explain this shit to people. I mean, I start out right, "Hey, you know how you always have these bugs because what you thought was in the variable is not there?" And I get all of these nods of agreement. "Well, I've found a new language that solves that problem." Audience: "Ooooh! How?" Me: "There's no variables!" And then < 1430672066 508280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all start moving away from me slowly.... < 1430672127 540116 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stack-based language or what was that about? < 1430672130 955131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( konstante Verwirrung Konstanter ) < 1430672135 558349 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Haskell, actually. < 1430672207 273408 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1430672256 513065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Das Ergebnis sind konsternierte Konstanten. ) < 1430672260 696606 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so the described problem is a variable having been unexpectedly mutated or unexpectedly not mutated? < 1430672272 588757 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430672298 693073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Yes. It's a memorable quote and in light of variable is now known as constant it felt appropriate :) < 1430672319 938360 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That makes sense. < 1430672413 808786 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430672458 975448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about some food... < 1430672467 326064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you eaten yet? < 1430672505 331462 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was re: i seem to be procrastinating eating again <-- (I know what that feels like) < 1430672695 190217 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote constant < 1430672695 355558 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dickie says: Janeway constantly frustrated me. I would have had a difficult time under her leadership. < 1430672723 918142 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh... < 1430672727 405642 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote constant < 1430672727 571164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :skew says: Swapping is just a constant factor < 1430673007 106905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430673268 60736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430673302 562051 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1430673353 492080 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the esowiki up now? < 1430673362 79822 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1430673370 537473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, planning for pizza in a while < 1430673418 601400 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1430673436 340024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: given that you tried to reverse engineer the elements of the BANCStar language from only a few samples, no implementation, maybe you want to try this similar language reverse engineering task: < 1430673443 411638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far the timing is right < 1430673456 917103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: reverse engineering R2's beep language in Darths and Droids, see http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/draakslair/viewtopic.php?t=8454 for spoilers < 1430673469 243807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for that. it's horribly wrong for everything else, like buying groceries.) < 1430673505 863621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hey stop that, i'm procrastinating reading that forum! < 1430673546 981840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might actually catch up to that thread soon, i've nearly caught up on the d&d main subforum < 1430673601 234342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now the immediate thing is to catch up on the actual _comics_ for today. < 1430673613 457455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except there was this pizza thing -> < 1430673844 676435 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is my network connection so terrible? < 1430673869 305163 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some large file somewhere that I can download and immediately see if it's corrupt? < 1430673899 200094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like an online /dev/zero < 1430674024 918590 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of the time checksums are given when downloading large programs < 1430674026 859524 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's what you mean < 1430674041 183058 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if that suits your purpose < 1430674045 243131 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Cygwin checksums keep failing < 1430674076 344034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to see if it's really a fault on my end. And also something I can do on my phone to see if it's my computer or my network connection < 1430674186 751530 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430674187 344243 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 QUIT :Client Quit < 1430674200 99212 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430674633 207672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hehehe < 1430674637 269317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's addictive < 1430674672 133791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to go into it deeply, so I only tried to figure out how numeric literals are expressed in that language, < 1430674705 240986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's led a bit far, eventually to why "laser" is a word ending in "-zz-zip" where "zip" means zero. < 1430674755 385014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'll have to reformat the corpus to a HTML page because the forum markup isn't enough < 1430675696 582479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it might very well be that some words have more than one precise meaning < 1430675712 938882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I think "bip" is ambiguous < 1430675730 503029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "zip" actually means zero there < 1430675782 511439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by the way, shellshear (who has created the puzzle) says “All beeps have a canonical meaning.”, interpret that however you want < 1430675793 531079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could also mean "nothing" < 1430675896 232840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the problem is that "zz" only occurs once more (as a separate word), in #1174, where "e-bap-dok-pop-zz-pikilip" gives the damage amount of the shock probe < 1430675918 998119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the overcharged shock probe; normally it deals only 1d4) < 1430675945 247165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought at first that "kipgidip-zz-zip" also referred to the damage dealt by the laser beam < 1430675953 622866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which confused me totally, because that doesn't make sense < 1430675957 873597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't refer to the damage < 1430676072 891939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as i said i haven't got to the spoiler thread yet, nor have i tried to solve it myself < 1430676115 84202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm vaguely wondering how much of a conlanger shellshear is - is there any truly weird grammar here < 1430676132 860563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's no grammar present < 1430676140 472693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are almost no grammatical marker words, < 1430676156 992647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's assumed the grammar structure is carried in the “inflections” of the beep tones < 1430676171 200119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which aren't shown in the comic < 1430676173 630133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so invisible < 1430676179 63392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1430676189 125195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, Shellshear says “Correctly translating the beeps will result in a kind of pidgin. There is assumed to be some nuance in the in-game inflection of the beeps.” < 1430676206 383042 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1430676224 530243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the sentences that we understand correctly, it seems there are no grammatical markers, in particular, no sentence separator, and no "e" or "li" to separate verbs from nouns < 1430676233 386159 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/correctly/completely/ < 1430676310 332102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think there's anything marking subclauses either < 1430676489 574395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course all my previous encounters with the CIs' puzzles can be summed up as "htf can anyone solve these things" < 1430676612 900070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe not the droidikar one but i didn't really get interested in that. < 1430676626 718860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? CI < 1430676661 175869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CI is a confidential informant < 1430676669 25036 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `define CI is short for Constant Irritation. ) < 1430676674 448359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: tdnd < 1430676676 126269 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: tdnh < 1430676694 131943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Google suggests Cursed Island) < 1430676750 912270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. < 1430676757 570990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ci': The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. < 1430676794 17835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i've got it < 1430676807 162700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1430676808 859586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ci': The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1430676899 933494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: i'm pretty sure this explains everything hth < 1430677107 304983 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused.
< 1430677117 956709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: problem? < 1430677147 237883 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Taneb invented himself. < 1430677159 672930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1430677160 760713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1430677168 931612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1430677169 722388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, and this sentence. < 1430677177 843333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope hth < 1430677220 436977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course we've no proof Taneb _isn't_ one of the CIs, he's admitted to australian citizenship already. < 1430677306 971166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb invented boily < 1430677381 793827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is pretty well established that taneb came here via the IWC forum. < 1430677392 271413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eventually) < 1430677396 861838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no no no, you're getting it wrong. < 1430677425 112239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hm? < 1430677431 473617 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the CIs, namely at least DMM and shellshear are designing sadistic hard to solve puzzles < 1430677434 377218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lost without context, nothing unusual < 1430677443 448147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this one is worse, because Shellshear says < 1430677452 914068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.darthsanddroids.net/faq.html hth < 1430677465 997846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“The language is not a puzzle per se. I haven't evaluated how easy it is to solve, except to note what was necessary for Ben to work out.” < 1430677483 333740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellshear also has't originally created Droidikar as a puzzle < 1430677483 499184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: charming < 1430677493 556830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why there are some unguessable card names in it < 1430677497 354801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for which he had to give hints < 1430677507 70838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean that explains how i managed to guess _any_ of the card hth htht < 1430677512 95359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was a puzzle, he'd have deliberately made all the cards guessable < 1430677513 819501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1430677529 258418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-t < 1430677537 698294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+actually working script < 1430677540 206018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, some card names like Tattooine and R2-D2 are obvious < 1430677585 730222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think DMM has helped making the hints for Droidikar so it's more solvable < 1430677602 460118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he might not have done so here < 1430677608 117091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, that explains CI. Significant overlap with http://puzzle.cisra.com.au/credits.php ... which is where "CI puzzles" somehow led me. < 1430677616 766421 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia. even though being Tanebly invented is a great honour, I prefer to remain uninvented hth < 1430677640 106156 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1430677649 698046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which CI do you supposed Taneb is by the way? < 1430677652 934746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's DMM < 1430677677 439167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also (GOD GOOGLE WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MUNGE URLS) http://puzzle.cisra.com.au/ < 1430677704 230981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, those are the puzzles DMM creates as solvable in theory but damned hard < 1430677749 50840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be able to convince zzo38 though, he does sufficiently crazy things like this < 1430677773 255633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: taneb would obviously be an unlisted undercover CI, dug < 1430677774 985315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*h < 1430677788 788453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers lashing his keyboard
< 1430677796 533531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's a photo of the CIs somewhere, let me check that < 1430677809 227453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It doesn't help that CI means "Corporate Identity" and "Continuous Integration" as well. < 1430677814 92520 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1430677827 776110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former could reasonably be pluralised. < 1430677838 864492 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1430677914 981061 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dhug? < 1430678012 167162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah here, http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/3218.html links to it < 1430678060 142815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only six people, so no secret undercover member < 1430678127 423532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: as a mathematician you should be ashamed of not being able to pluralize the latter hth < 1430678155 252991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now go invent a meaning and write a paper on them twh < 1430678190 857608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that would have been *+h, not *h hth < 1430678208 934646 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430678216 636214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: A mathematician, hmm. < 1430678263 200161 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in a corner of theoretical computer science that does mostly logic and discrete mathematics. Integrals rarely come up.
< 1430678298 709644 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how about ends and coends?? < 1430678305 918113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well invent a meaning that's CS-related, then. < 1430678314 781771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi copumpkin < 1430678316 225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi copumpkin. Hopumpkin. < 1430678326 121241 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1430678333 136294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: abstract nonsense is often too abstract for me < 1430678339 837052 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1430678361 207969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't grokked adjoint functors
< 1430678385 248686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjoint functors are the best < 1430678386 909422 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not alone! < 1430678391 290784 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1430678414 513346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but if you used them for integrating averages you could say they were ends to a mean hth < 1430678501 708830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how to best PUNish oerjan.
< 1430678586 699879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did feel like reaching a new level there < 1430678648 229092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: adjoint functors are simple you just need to learn how to split monads hth < 1430678811 390417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try this handy monad accelerator here. keep it away from profunctors. < 1430679331 397525 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this feels like splitting the atom. can be used for good, but should be left to professionals with a good sense of ethics. < 1430679422 71724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can't be uninvented. you already exist and knowledge of your existence is widespread < 1430679485 951302 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. I can't counter that. < 1430679609 162153 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430679635 923137 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430679638 109633 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430679661 515647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so basically, you've been decohered. < 1430679663 899361 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430679664 183177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can invent similar people and sow confusion that way < 1430679686 846371 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430679708 578561 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I'd /nick booly if there'd be a way to limit it to just this one channel. ) < 1430679713 887700 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430679731 293002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let that stop you < 1430679734 682541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :take inspiration from copumpkin < 1430679746 775604 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: don't you dare steal my identity you evil twin! < 1430679752 948313 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1430679769 509708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: it wouldn't be stolen, merely blurred. < 1430679795 427745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i see you _still_ haven't started using pro- or bi-, this just won't do hth < 1430679808 38281 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :propumpkin is in my alt list < 1430679808 528437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i've seen propumpkin around hth < 1430679811 519375 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just usually doesn't get that far < 1430679813 871731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1430679826 354173 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :anapumpkin is another possibility < 1430679835 288358 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :bipumpkin could work < 1430679866 11479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw contrapumpkin once. < 1430679876 23882 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, contrapumpkin is fairly common < 1430679877 915499 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote contra < 1430679878 80901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bucky says: The invention of the game of limited and terminal local awareness that we call "life" is in contradistinction to the concept of eternally total cosmic knowledge, intellect, and wisdom, whose totality of comprehensive comprehension would answeringly cancel out all questions and all problems, which would result in the eternally timeless, < 1430679878 80966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : sublime 0=0 equation of absolute perfection. < 1430679880 846234 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when I'm on a bus with spotty wifi < 1430679890 57569 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like right now) < 1430679903 833702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help me out there, please < 1430679904 23809 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: like mos docs.... whats up with that) < 1430679906 921468 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1430679906 929806 NAMES :#esoteric < 1430679946 211749 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-198-142.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungot < 1430679946 506579 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: perhaps you could tell your nickname when registering it. if you translate your until to a letrec? < 1430679947 66708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 13) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. plea < 1430679959 672537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -q :oer*!*@* > 1430679959 683433 NAMES :#esoteric < 1430679960 219328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote fungot < 1430679960 384823 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. < 1430679960 384894 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: give it a go < 1430679964 775485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1430679964 978679 NAMES :#esoteric < 1430679976 369428 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1430679991 418997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our ban list is getting scarily long < 1430680046 451934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why were you +q twh < 1430680098 395902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we know that -q oer*!*@* actually removed anything? < 1430680135 263466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it didn't because oerjan was talking earlier < 1430680165 531033 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a q-mode? < 1430680171 417272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: people were playing around with confusing nicks the other day so i decided to abuse my powers < 1430680197 618873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also i made an exemption for myself, naturally < 1430680204 496211 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "quiet" .. people can join and listen but their messages are blocked < 1430680237 387053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly anyone can see the +b and +q lists, but not the +e exemption list... < 1430680245 660214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1430680247 837668 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1430680248 63869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exemptions? < 1430680264 347015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: /mode #esoteric +e $a:oerjan < 1430680277 242378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excepts my account from all other bans < 1430680285 690959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and quiets) < 1430680293 523402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exempts < 1430680301 942542 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious < 1430680353 700035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of redundant when you're an op, usually... < 1430680407 621088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is a devious op. a devop. < 1430681054 679582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical. a nice simple mathematical question that I understand, answered by a half page long algebraic technobabble of which I don't understand a word. => those who are < 1430681058 219400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1430681064 883197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> http://mathoverflow.net/q/204464/5340 < 1430681233 730637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not intend to including nonfree software in my list of compare feature and I do not know if Impulse Tracker and Fast Tracker are now free software or not; I don't expect it to be but I don't know? < 1430681289 57331 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430681310 870054 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what about milky? < 1430681317 857069 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430681338 483284 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430681340 188869 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm... milky tracker seems dead now.) < 1430681367 860008 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430681375 10853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I did put Miltky Tracker on the list though < 1430681424 855868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to look, it is: https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Compare_features < 1430681469 184068 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430681472 724509 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :milky has built-in synthesis. < 1430681496 852798 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430681518 650987 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430681524 624629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it does? How does its built-in synthesis work? Let me see the documentation again < 1430681544 850459 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430681628 510956 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we're talking about different types of built-in syntheses. I played with it a long time ago, trying my hand at freeform drawn waves ^^ < 1430681639 63141 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lots of distortion and clicks, but it works quite well.) < 1430681786 745366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, freeform drawing now I put another column (not yet saved) < 1430681900 619760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai zzo38 < 1430682099 144707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: (repeating from two and a half hours ago) given that you tried to reverse engineer the elements of the BANCStar language from only a few samples, no implementation, maybe you want to try this similar language reverse engineering task: < 1430682118 283860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse engineering R2's Pating language in Darths and Droids, see http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/draakslair/viewtopic.php?t=8454 for how much people have figured out so far < 1430682592 336351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What I meant is in AmigaMML you can type such thing as @0 = "# L30" to make a square wave with 15/16 duty, or you can type something like @2 = "+54A4G+34A4H-P2A2G" 1000 to create a sample with FM synthesis, or whatever < 1430682728 770843 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the programmative kind. not quite the same indeed. < 1430682800 852347 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430682816 63182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that command looks scary < 1430682830 892435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1430682846 280012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is that "+54A4G+34A4H-P2A2G" a BASIC PLAY string? < 1430682872 550331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no it's not, that couldn't start with "+" I think < 1430682916 410603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't; in AmigaMML if the instrument filename starts with + then it is FM synthesis; it uses its own syntax < 1430683001 809321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also start a instrument filename with # for a simpler synthesizer where you can use "L" for square waves, "N" for saw waves, and "V" for triangle wave; you can combine multiple waveforms added together too, with different frequencies; the only option the example above uses is the duty though. < 1430683059 167808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it does not start with one of the special symbols then the text in the quotation marks is instead the name of a instrument file, which is either Amigasam or .XI format. < 1430683116 413213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, this is getting leaning toothpicky: I'm matching bbcode with perl regexen < 1430683141 414953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\[\/b\]/ < 1430683210 683310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you modify that description of that binary story format that you showed us last time? < 1430683230 528474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the OASYS format? I do not remember < 1430683233 341092 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: regex dialect in which the widechar versions of characters are used < 1430683269 611918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know what its name was < 1430683359 840316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a particularly good VM, but previously there was no documentation, and still it should be easy to compile OASYS binaries into native code or other VMs < 1430683393 11038 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the above would become /［／b］/ < 1430683449 65341 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430683476 416237 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430683480 947072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Or another way, use the high bit set for actual character matching (including the "b"); or possibly the bitwise complement; use a editor that support displaying such by reverse video < 1430683524 937488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: psst if you're using actual perl then you can use a different character than / < 1430683537 40414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I'm actually using a different delimiter instead of / < 1430683540 652752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the \[\] still sucks < 1430683549 115707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's needed in replacement text too < 1430683577 419874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you actually need \] < 1430683614 953406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least either you need "${a}[b]" or "$a\[b]" in replacement text because otherwise perls tries to parse it as the interpolation of an array element < 1430683618 166305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Look at the AmigaMML documentation to learn how the command is working; also if you have account you can try to fix the wiki by yourself < 1430683619 23232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, probably not \] < 1430683629 509043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wasn't there something... < 1430683636 694707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's on the wiki? I thought it was on your webpage < 1430683646 224262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It his this wiki https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Compare_features < 1430683647 810565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you asked for comments and then I gave some < 1430683656 491112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a Redmine wiki. < 1430683658 770798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1430683664 732274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1430683671 418130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the story language description < 1430683677 657784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just a text file though < 1430683736 816167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you ack what I said about the Pating language thing though? < 1430683763 346499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I don't know; just use what is already written for now. < 1430683787 621722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"use"? < 1430683790 887564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah it's \Q...\E < 1430683823 810652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had that too in the code, for the intended purpose < 1430683843 125469 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's unrelated to the bbcode thing < 1430683929 209722 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430683956 420951 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430684007 848549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well you could do \Q[/b]\E , no? < 1430684030 424055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: technically yes, but that's not usually better than \[/b] < 1430684044 145949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHESSH < 1430684058 89338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to close the \Q for regex meta-characters like .* < 1430684093 178107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can also do m"[[]/b]" < 1430684174 207660 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1430684174 373150 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  ¦ < 1430684174 538870 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 ´¸¨ < 1430684187 570199 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut. < 1430684201 963984 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1430684202 609328 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1430684202 775210 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ < 1430684222 845572 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s the one above supposed to represent? < 1430684286 493590 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1430684286 814803 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1430684286 980355 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   /< < 1430684415 324042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: i'm pretty sure the first one is there on a quota for disabled people < 1430684476 888472 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I C < 1430684562 637575 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/o/ < 1430684583 705591 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o/ < 1430684589 515279 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430684612 83056 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\O/ < 1430684613 715561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you need at least two extra spaces in front due to the nick length difference < 1430684617 58175 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430684633 54736 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o/ \o/ < 1430684633 606870 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |     | < 1430684633 772543 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /`\   /| < 1430684643 288878 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! < 1430684655 982364 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is why it looks wrong in clients that right-align nicks.) < 1430684675 405522 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless the instigator has a length-6 nick.) < 1430684683 865375 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the client? < 1430684690 451656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1430684701 241166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 probably sees something entirely insane < 1430684717 919067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact so do i in the web logs) < 1430684723 309059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it can also depend on things other than the nick, and on how the CTRL+C codes are interpreted < 1430684723 814682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to re-read my Sherlock Holmes... < 1430684737 574851 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought < oren> was just part of the message < 1430684755 35524 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1430684755 439062 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1430684755 604831 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/^\ < 1430684756 362287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, that's like http://www.xkcd.com/276/ < 1430684757 826863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Adventure of the Dancing Men) < 1430684776 840919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if your nick is length 6, the stuff after the nickname before the message can be of a different length. < 1430684796 298251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: nope, in irc syntax it's really something like :oren PRIVMSG :I thought < oren> was just part of the message < 1430684809 915288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er oops < 1430684811 757107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um no it isn't < 1430684823 848794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a !user@host and a #channel in there < 1430684824 14173 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what stuff after the nick before the massage? < 1430684825 145110 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought < oren> was just part of the message < 1430684832 493438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the !user@host is VERY varying length < 1430684839 932552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that it can be very short or very long < 1430684841 446010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: The username, hostname, command, and channel name. < 1430684846 716766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can look up exact limits) < 1430684847 456457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i was so unsure about the !user@host that i forgot all about the #channel < 1430684861 951883 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the channel matches though < 1430684871 405177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although the command and channel name will always match anyways) < 1430684888 475336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh, the channel is also variable length, and the limits on this stuff are also wildly varying among irc networks) < 1430684928 128101 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see... < 1430684930 37436 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de NOTICE #esoteric :\o/ < 1430684960 842975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crazy because the length of the nick!user@host #channel changes how long lines can be transmitted without truncation like crazy < 1430684991 640727 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :＾what is that pink Melvar then? < 1430685043 571630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: no, that would be stupid. myndzi could perhaps reply with a notice though, but as you see he doesn't < 1430685053 112009 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You mean the notice? That’s NOTICE instead of PRIVMSG. < 1430685069 786675 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don’t know what your client colors pink.) < 1430685070 153668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, does myndzi sometimes trigger other bots? < 1430685102 843530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 60$'\o> \ < 1430685103 536350 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o> < 1430685121 531806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 60$'\o_ -o) ' < 1430685121 697201 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1430685122 311880 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       /| < 1430685122 311907 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ < 1430685127 142658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: too long line < 1430685129 31796 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430685132 24597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 40$'\o_ -o) ' < 1430685132 190104 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1430685132 355537 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        |\ < 1430685132 730553 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) \o_ -o) < 1430685133 147447 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |       |       |       |       | < 1430685133 313196 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        /|      /'\      |\     /|      /< < 1430685134 812083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1430685136 376368 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1430685155 260056 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those penises don't trigger hackego to say \: command not found < 1430685155 487331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 40$'_o/ \ < 1430685156 170102 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430685156 170211 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o/ \ c.c /'\ /'\|   |    /<  c.c /'\    |     |\| |\ c.c /| < 1430685219 179815 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /`\              (_|¯´¯|_) < 1430685219 517389 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| |_)                  < 1430685220 968587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh yeah, lambdabot cleverly uses some invisible non-ascii stuff at the start of its replies < 1430685239 261771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so do HackEgo and EgoBot < 1430685242 357424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you're right < 1430685246 304661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :backtick is used < 1430685259 101322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1430685259 804627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1430685263 690313 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap now I know what's wrong with this font. I cant tell between ` and ' < 1430685279 905390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :use my font? < 1430685376 133508 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1430685418 742440 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/568793 < 1430685447 182690 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1430685465 447366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I don't bolt it, just use different colors) < 1430685474 871888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bold might not look good) < 1430685484 278731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's fake bold, no bold variant of the font) < 1430685496 783626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, thanks for testing) < 1430685545 612622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very penisy font you've got there. < 1430685563 57833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :penisy? < 1430685592 941089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exaggerates those chars a lot more than this new courier thing < 1430685593 826551 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ` and ' chars make better penises than in most other fonts < 1430685614 238601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my font exaggerates most chars. < 1430685617 976988 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only the penissy ones. < 1430685622 962843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*courier new < 1430685630 192041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1430685736 298900 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O0o Il1|7 ^~ S5 Z2 < 1430685747 999113 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :6G < 1430685753 322881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: B8 was the last straw for me < 1430685761 32316 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread a hexadecimal number < 1430685767 916383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the terminus font < 1430685774 979900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same size (10x20 px) < 1430685861 564051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets funnier when you look at non-ascii characters that I distinguish with dots and protursions < 1430685882 274922 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using "unispace" today... It looks cool but doesn't work < 1430685951 631463 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AΑА < 1430685973 47762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like -–—−‐ or őŐśŚ < 1430685976 37345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no cyrillic < 1430685980 5756 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital alpha has an underdot < 1430685988 194465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only basic greek (for math) and even that's very ugly < 1430685994 746527 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should redraw it < 1430686032 146591 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :αβß < 1430686091 211102 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your german s thingy is not the same as beta < 1430686132 633514 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*esszet < 1430686139 369999 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1430686222 4597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also |¦ and `'"“‟”‘‛’´˝′″ (ascii, then quotation marks, then standalone accents, then primes) < 1430686243 832357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: of course it's not. this isn't a cp437 font < 1430686255 672747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430686299 743044 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and ˈ the phonetic stress symbol < 1430686456 106463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's stuff like /∕¦|∣│\∖ < 1430686848 707033 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1430687053 863476 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1430687150 300511 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PΡEΕ < 1430687507 653646 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65E.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1430687590 292612 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: PPEE? < 1430687662 596204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no < 1430687668 804924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: half of it is greek < 1430687706 33505 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430687747 526473 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ map toLower "PΡEΕ" < 1430687748 991864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : pρeε < 1430687894 982268 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1430688206 743439 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1430688242 666559 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430688434 929821 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1430688532 420145 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1430688632 663547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1430688747 324207 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430688797 617740 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689202 473887 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65E.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689269 150455 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430689298 652223 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689577 905976 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430689620 665615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689705 677728 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689710 850093 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430689737 677487 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689754 221974 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430689781 638923 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430689954 668547 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430690010 17055 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430690024 716058 :q3k!~q3k@q3k.org QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1430690184 530402 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65E.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430690563 707858 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1430690606 469744 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430690743 126060 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430690773 156794 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430690981 723896 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430691093 663895 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430691179 683923 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430691195 310789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430691223 682007 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430691400 694366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1430691971 290057 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1430692657 663419 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with sgeo? < 1430692687 675841 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :his isp must suuuuck < 1430692704 584871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is connection is up. then down. then up. then down. hth. < 1430692714 586070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1430692731 920670 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's something in software. < 1430692746 477578 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A VM using a bridged connection works fine. A VM using NAT is not. < 1430692819 311146 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, please don't say that. I work for my ISP < 1430692834 390515 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1430692849 572881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :his isp must suck, and it's all his fault hth < 1430692864 208618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now whistles maniackally
< 1430692865 327269 :SgeoPhone!~androirc@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430692880 744739 :SgeoPhone!~androirc@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This phone also connected through the same Wi-Fi < 1430692892 852718 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At last, the answer to THEN WHO WAS PHONE < 1430693144 249884 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430693205 915952 :SgeoPhone!~androirc@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430693218 220438 :SgeoPhone!~androirc@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430693328 351772 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430693338 159418 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430693477 945446 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CIRCULATORY CHICKEN < 1430693531 932329 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430693798 29704 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1430693868 178010 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1430694367 148008 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1430694463 187698 :SgeoPhone!~androirc@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430694641 595806 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.92.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430694727 505191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42781&oldid=42776 5* 030x0dea 5* (+1117) 10Add Brainfuck interpreter < 1430694934 590598 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.92.216 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1430694962 84766 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.77.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1430695076 978111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42782&oldid=42571 5* 030x0dea 5* (+514) 10Update EsoInterpreters < 1430695094 235667 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1430695122 525919 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1430695512 314137 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw JOIN :#esoteric < 1430695522 990301 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.77.156 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1430695561 505446 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have taken a look at some of the brainfuck algorithms on the wiki and I don't think this code works for when the divisor is either 0 or 1: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#Divmod_algorithm < 1430696110 483973 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1430696135 688006 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1430696804 820770 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1430697209 777901 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1430697451 801510 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric