< 1428451217 95403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ORBI
< 1428451217 508723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORBI 080000Z 00000KT CAVOK 19/06 Q1010 NOSIG
< 1428451247 209127 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ORER
< 1428451247 517056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORER 072300Z 15004KT CAVOK 13/08 Q1013 NOSIG
< 1428451253 871298 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It
< 1428452486 795761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a new variant of Magic: the Gathering now, it is: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/randcommand.var
< 1428453098 351362 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live conspiracies!
< 1428453453 211352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you dreamt of nonexisting episodes of television shows?
< 1428453599 968644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as my memory serves, no, I think not.
< 1428453622 494913 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flunked zzo38's Roman Catholic quiz. «maudit qu'y'est pas facile!»
< 1428453740 999592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, some of the questions are difficult; which questions did you miss?
< 1428453772 129332 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 19 out of 42. most were guessed...
< 1428453803 533429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know the guy's called St-François-d'Assise. other than that they were wildly random.
< 1428454036 840888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of religions are you though?
< 1428454127 829504 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atheist. I was born and raised Roman Catholic for about the first half of my life.
< 1428454248 578997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. (I was also born and raised Roman Catholic, and sometimes still go to church on Christmas Eve)
< 1428454339 230603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know Catholics, atheists, and a few others though. (I consider myself a panendeist.)
< 1428454351 377360 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? panendeist
< 1428454352 345348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :panendeist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1428454519 839598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is still much to read in the Bible though, even if you are not Christian. I think I even read in some book written by an atheist, in a list of books he recommended, the Bible was included in that list too.
< 1428454544 503176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there is much to read in other books too!
< 1428454567 101146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hexadecimal Stacking Pseudo-Assembly Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42339&oldid=42331 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-8038) 10/* An interpreter in Java: */
< 1428454619 394766 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :books are made to be read. it's their purpose in life.
< 1428454648 685688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they want you to think
< 1428454738 646586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, clearly, that is what it is, otherwise you don't need to write on it.
< 1428455099 361461 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, and I agree. I hope you take good care of your books and that you pet them regularly.
< 1428455599 476781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1428455675 115259 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(? :(
< 1428456019 611831 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :panendeist - um, lemme see pan=all en=in dei=god ist=believer "someone who believes all is in god" ?
< 1428456427 702505 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That emoticon looks seird when \ is a yen sign
< 1428456626 604986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ is ¥, and \ is \.
< 1428456707 396656 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In Japanese locales \ renders as the yen sign.
< 1428456707 878580 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... apparently the first one is a double-width yen sign
< 1428456741 518106 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For legacy reasons.
< 1428456771 603817 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know. it's surprising the first time you're Team Viewing some desktop in Japan and all paths are C:¥...¥...¥...
< 1428456778 582982 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1428456804 500958 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you discover that in Korea it's wons all the way, but then you half-expected it anyway.
< 1428456816 52495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's because it is the Japanese character encoding I think. And then some people wanted to do it even if you are using different encoding
< 1428456860 600507 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ish. In legacy Japanese encodings there is no \ but the yen sign is encoded the same as \ in ASCII.
< 1428456886 892492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, that's what I meant the Japanese character encoding has a yen sign where standard ASCII has a backslash.
< 1428456905 195824 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So semantically it was treated as a backslash...
< 1428456922 486108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the Famicom keyboard has a yen sign, but no backslash.
< 1428456926 625444 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when they switched to Unicode they still wanted the thing-that-acted-like-backslash to look like a yen sign. :)
< 1428456955 391429 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen anime where there are computer classes and it is like printf("%d￥n",i);
< 1428456969 677185 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-15-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428456977 408044 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. Though arguably that's incorrect C.
< 1428456991 832768 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as in serial experiments Lain
< 1428457144 600188 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because their charset doesn't have \ it should be printf("%d??/n",i);
< 1428457385 697063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the character encoding has a yen sign in the place where a backslash in ASCII, then you can use yen sign in that way; C is using ASCII encoding so a variant of ASCII still, you use whatever is in the correct position of the codes. Such as, some older ASCII codes use up arrow in place of ^ so in such codes you use up arrow where ^ is expected (as XOR or whatever).
< 1428457414 957734 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/xg91wqvfn/342429f8/
< 1428457453 893571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when using UTF-8 Unicode the proper character should be a proper backslash. UTF-16 should not be used to write a C code though, but some other character encodings are OK (such as ISO-8859-1, or CP437, or whatever)
< 1428457499 773398 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... I'm not sure what printf("%c<&\n",a); does anyway
< 1428457508 261351 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... I'm not sure what printf("%c<^\n",a); does anyway
< 1428457512 719535 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... I'm not sure what printf("%c<%\n",a); does anyway
< 1428457515 801168 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1428457556 952730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it isn't valid printf format string, whoever made that picture may have done the mistake
< 1428457623 876868 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from serial experiments lain... apart from the mistake he seems to be teaching how to use comparison operators or something
< 1428457739 103240 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/gc5maf6el/
< 1428457784 622960 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the anime doesn't show the rest of the lesson because our heroine is about to go on a crazy acid trip
< 1428457848 200408 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GOTHIC CHICKEN
< 1428458096 162221 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: C does not use ASCII encoding.
< 1428458139 68468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it should.
< 1428458162 32772 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: C uses some encoding with the property that 0 through 9 are sequential, and a small set of characters exist.
< 1428458205 455922 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alphanumerics + !"#%&'()*+,-./:;<=>?[\]^_{|}~
< 1428458230 446739 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does C specify the visual appearance of said characters?
< 1428458246 944663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And line break too I suppose? You missed line breaks.
< 1428458261 217546 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Not especially.
< 1428458294 420320 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Right, yes, it also requires the space character, horizontal tab, vertical tab, and form feed.
< 1428458302 445578 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then japanese computers simply have a \ that looks like ￥ instead of ＼
< 1428458348 756889 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, at run time alert, backspace, carriage return, and newline must exist.
< 1428458369 997448 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: That is the implementation used on modern systems, yes.
< 1428458388 925471 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ simply has a locale-specific rendering, and nobody is that confused.
< 1428458396 683860 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlxmylrhuvuaytwp QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1428458525 976938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is the C backslash character, and has the same code number as the ASCII backslash, I suppose, is how you can describe it, even if it is not a backslash.
< 1428458569 564961 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exxzzwqgvogoillg JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428458576 882163 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, {|} [\] had locale-specific renderings in nordic countries, so people would use xÄiÅ instead of x[i].
< 1428458680 596368 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: How odd, the relevant legacy encoding is ISO 8859-1, no?
< 1428458694 707057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was in the 7-bit age.
< 1428458722 608298 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ugh*, right, ISO 646 got used too.
< 1428458773 9976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the reason why irc by default consider those characters different case variants of each others
< 1428458779 823312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s
< 1428458786 139967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s
< 1428458820 683143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used the finnish variant
< 1428458903 896268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks if irssi will do that, nope
< 1428458979 864685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the server refused my /nick f\`-`\f so at least it still does
< 1428459043 912060 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 NICK :{|oren|]
< 1428459049 74140 :{|oren|]!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works
< 1428459069 603951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[|oren|]: does this ping you
< 1428459078 813648 :{|oren|]!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1428459101 597473 :{|oren|]!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they are allowed but no longer case-viariant
< 1428459116 376310 :{|oren|]!~oren@65.94.97.99 NICK :\oren\
< 1428459142 968905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, they are case-invariant in the server
< 1428459158 482360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for freenode, anyway
< 1428459172 471977 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.97.99 NICK :orin
< 1428459201 520300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to do /nick or /whois with a variant of them, it will be blocked/displayed
< 1428459233 922746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the nick is in use in some variation)
< 1428459292 19604 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The british variant of iso646 had # as £ apparently
< 1428459564 93766 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had ISO 646 IRV for this reason...
< 1428460314 591647 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428460318 461184 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1428460319 912053 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :big channel
< 1428460344 551189 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lmt
< 1428460345 872283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09lmt: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08<http://esolangs.org/>. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.)
< 1428460354 565094 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very big channel
< 1428460365 449053 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it get so big?
< 1428460378 399915 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got here via the wiki
< 1428460426 268373 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are a ton of bots on this channel, so it inflates the nubmers a bit
< 1428460430 789050 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1428460433 128907 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it
< 1428460460 432262 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example fungot HackEgo lambdabot idrisbot...
< 1428460460 673518 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: fnord returns true if ( eq val 4) code" from a different angle ( make-rectangular 4 1) 2 3
< 1428460584 131984 :darwin!~d@206.63.237.146 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428460619 272978 :darwin!~d@206.63.237.146 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1428460646 653021 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said
< 1428460716 203520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bots aren't more than about 10%...
< 1428460726 475657 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan 
< 1428460729 61835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi l*m**t)
< 1428460761 495791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I awake
< 1428460791 733012 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you mean l*m*****t?
< 1428460793 29438 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a general sense, or right now?
< 1428460800 465205 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice pdf in the topic
< 1428460803 300805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm we are indeed pretty big
< 1428460807 623252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: nope hth
< 1428460811 514238 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 106
< 1428460832 779419 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what is going on
< 1428460843 584968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: with what?
< 1428460854 12463 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the asterisks in lmt
< 1428460862 911144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a whois
< 1428460870 329544 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :俺も何も分かんない
< 1428460888 147863 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1428460972 106849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also confused about why I am awake
< 1428461012 101046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: gramlins hth
< 1428461016 412524 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no
< 1428461022 625733 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i were cool enough to be in the list of people in the pdf :(
< 1428461034 680656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why my fingers insisted on spelling it with an a
< 1428461077 888738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: it's mostly extracted from stuff in HackEgo.  it may not go back far enough.
< 1428461091 474921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add stuff into HackEgo yourself though, instead of using PDF
< 1428461138 918267 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1428461140 377937 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :later
< 1428461141 79406 :lmt!~nikita@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PART :#esoteric
< 1428461167 765016 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren
< 1428461169 544567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap?  <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore?  <oren> apparently not santa claus  <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1228) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ
< 1428461184 7987 :gjord!~irc@unaffiliated/gjord JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428461195 63166 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1428461208 609895 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren
< 1428461209 489561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap?  <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore?  <oren> apparently not santa claus  <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1228) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ
< 1428461212 958430 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote orin
< 1428461213 773158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :49) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs.  <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? \ 109) <CakeProphet> how does a "DNA computer" work.  <CakeProphet> von neumann machines?  <Phantom_Hoover> CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA.  <Phantom_Hoover> It's just stealing the universe's w
< 1428461238 166586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might add a <
< 1428461246 819016 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <orin
< 1428461247 665758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1428461252 536246 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <oren
< 1428461254 105857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <oren> when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap?  <vanila> yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore?  <oren> apparently not santa claus  <zzo38> Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1238) <oren> is instant coffee stronger than espresso? I think it must be... [...] <oren> Ohh.... so apparently 
< 1428461276 502505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote taneb cows
< 1428461277 170695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1428461280 936798 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote taneb * cows
< 1428461281 661402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1428461289 132852 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote instant
< 1428461289 736282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote punched myself in the face
< 1428461289 978060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :512) <Patashu> dangit I need someone who knows the answers to my problems instantly and is always around for me!  <Patashu> I need.....an adult ;_; \ 1117) <ais523> hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day \ 1127) <Sgeo> I designed a norn to drop dead
< 1428461290 460531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :401) <Taneb> Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once.
< 1428461294 811617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's regexps, Taneb 
< 1428461302 681157 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?
< 1428461307 609435 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps?
< 1428461308 927925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `quote syntax
< 1428461309 936872 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All along?
< 1428461323 831794 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the watchtower
< 1428461377 57548 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god my compulsive word association is coming back
< 1428461391 678702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the future
< 1428461414 990402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion the best program for online quizzes is Internet Quiz Engine; the other ones require you to use a GUI and are slow. Isn't it?
< 1428461425 350109 :augur!~augur@71.57.177.235 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428461435 896499 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read the topic's PDF for 3rd time) ...I think that was originally Starcraft mentioned in my entry.
< 1428461453 905774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lifthrasiir
< 1428461454 715559 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends.
< 1428461465 512584 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren
< 1428461466 339980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house.
< 1428461470 418971 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1428461475 388332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/lifthrasiir
< 1428461476 425287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/lifthrasiir
< 1428461492 187475 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, historic.
< 1428461511 187598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should remove that PDF to make room for other stuff; you can link information from HackEgo and so on. Of course the PDF and other information can also be found in the logs. Right now it is unnecessary but it might be useful in future to remove this link
< 1428461513 62772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my memory is that inaccurate then
< 1428461527 127937 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to switch the parts
< 1428461534 782232 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren instant
< 1428461536 536698 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1428461547 31878 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren.*instant
< 1428461547 902618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1238) <oren> is instant coffee stronger than espresso? I think it must be... [...] <oren> Ohh.... so apparently the jar says one scoop of powder per mug, I assumed an equal amount of powder and boiling water
< 1428461565 398030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it's been that way since 2012 at least
< 1428461582 808040 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is busy switching his parts
< 1428461611 418876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, when HackEgo's repository history was wiped out last
< 1428461616 891588 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :week
< 1428461676 502423 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requiring to use a GUI is barbaric
< 1428461687 424086 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverted. it didn't work well.
< 1428461730 333375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you start remembering the future instead
< 1428462002 642314 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless time is multidimensional, no.
< 1428462092 982495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1124
< 1428462093 705826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1124) <Taneb> kmc, I was trying to go to a sci-fi and fantasy society social, and I went to the wrong bar  <Taneb> Wound up at my university's fetish society  <Taneb> Didn't realise for an hour and a half
< 1428462102 480336 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone apparently has now done the reverse of that
< 1428462110 445150 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the balance of the universe is restored
< 1428462217 854950 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they saw "Fantasy" in the society name and jumped to conclusions)
< 1428462389 230170 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.26 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone.
< 1428462404 963936 :augur!~augur@71.57.177.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ahahaha thats great :)
< 1428462448 321753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1428464315 394968 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428465615 26318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to hack Pokemon Pinball? There is a problem with the game, that the Mewtwo stage you can earn too many points. Also how to make Visual Boy Advance to allow opposite directions pushed together?
< 1428466265 717677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1127
< 1428466271 944636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1127) <Sgeo> I designed a norn to drop dead instantly if he ever thought about eating elevators. He was stillborn.
< 1428466278 36468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does dying norns have to do with punching myself in the face?
< 1428468023 481654 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you creating those norns and me punching myself in the face both got in the quote file
< 1428468328 596575 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why were you interested about me being on TDT?
< 1428468723 787482 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1428468789 172356 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I was just surprised at it, and surprised at the continued existed of TDT
< 1428468998 984057 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TDT? isn't that the thing from lessworng 
< 1428469000 133334 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1428469033 433405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :timeless devteam, sounds about right
< 1428469078 16513 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he was on the Nethack dev team?
< 1428469087 698558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdt
< 1428469091 227396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1428469099 739627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#scow
< 1428469100 878959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coppro
< 1428469101 846626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro prefers his nickname, Pooppy.
< 1428469128 369220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn tdt/That doesn't tdt.
< 1428469139 512298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tdt»
< 1428469190 558108 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have heard TDT referring to "timeless decision theory" which is some philosophy where people in the future can make threats to people in the past by simulating them, or some nonsense likt that
< 1428469218 2262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fancy
< 1428469243 895793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether using // as a separator would be better for slashlearn
< 1428469245 320363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hth
< 1428469258 151369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you could learn inside directories.
< 1428469275 165081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, but then you'd need it to mkdirs too
< 1428469284 474594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it works to just one slash; I don't expect you need subdirectories (but, I don't know for sure).
< 1428469299 724121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and me both, zzo38.
< 1428469309 67268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, did you play the discworld computer game?
< 1428469313 287166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think we should encourage subdirectories too much, although wisdom has some.
< 1428469418 382643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another xkcd map
< 1428469665 408057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this context I think The DevTeam was what was meant
< 1428469945 896022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvNLw7IHWmw#t=19m49s hth
< 1428470683 246716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever watched a television show called "To Be Announced"?
< 1428471438 286819 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-15-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1428471531 709873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Not that I recall
< 1428473609 550860 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1428474550 575794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Socrates a good golfer?
< 1428474880 705968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good golfers are immortal so no hth
< 1428476101 429630 :zadock!~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428480074 663017 :zadock!~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1428480271 872613 :zadock!~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428480566 661597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428481273 206616 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all immortal people are good golfers?
< 1428481600 974213 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428482247 544667 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Socrates is everyman; in other words every man is Socrates. Therefore every man is mortal.
< 1428482296 62055 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.207 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428482540 606087 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except Hades.
< 1428482608 646183 :gjord!~irc@unaffiliated/gjord PART :#esoteric
< 1428483142 969545 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.207 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1428483164 928957 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.207 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428483692 744244 :merdach!~k@stargate.cat.pdx.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1428483714 817625 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1428483838 430673 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there two-dimensional languages besides rail that do have commands that need more than one character?
< 1428484234 771153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there's some sort of cross between INTERCAL and Befunge, I think
< 1428484241 417825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works like that
< 1428484248 637198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wasn't very interesting IMO
< 1428484260 716639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hmm
< 1428484267 688918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check my very first esolang
< 1428484292 482728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can even find where it's got ot
< 1428484294 97453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*got to
< 1428484356 219392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :   * The playfield is made out of blocks of commands and data. The blocks are^M
< 1428484357 718857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :   * 2x2 blocks arranged in a hex-grid pattern, like this:^M
< 1428484372 972930 :fractal!~fractal@sigma.rikairchy.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428484387 177790 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-15-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428484389 424965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I had enough foresight to document how the language actually worked
< 1428484393 688140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is something of an improvement on Burn
< 1428484421 204325 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1428484446 658660 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Quit: byeannes
< 1428484448 978246 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1428484464 727947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://nethack4.org/esolangs/el1.c
< 1428484477 876078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may as well "release" it, now I remembered it exists
< 1428484510 347611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file's dated 2006, that seems plausible
< 1428484582 96583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to figure out what platform this was developed on
< 1428484599 711358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Windows-style newlines and order of the platform defines give some clues
< 1428484603 245438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it may have been DOS
< 1428484619 759394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while, Windows (especially pre-Vista) becomes annoying enough that anything is better :-(
< 1428484625 650544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I didn't have a lot of options back then
< 1428484906 486238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it uses a hex grid
< 1428484907 85858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1428484916 880882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good reason for it to be 4 by 4
< 1428484935 541754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's better than most people's first attempts
< 1428484944 419007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does rather miss the point it was aiming to illustrate
< 1428484945 880313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not
< 1428485034 744890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where will you release it? esolangs.org?
< 1428485093 499265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put the file online
< 1428485124 630208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's very hard to search for files that originally came from a case-insensitive system, when your existing copy of them is on a case-sensitive system
< 1428485137 114375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to guess the capitalization
< 1428485177 792320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just search for all capitalizations?
< 1428485234 199428 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-15-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1428485383 1194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I did in the end
< 1428485396 628934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily "el1" only has two cased characters in it
< 1428485403 189477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, I found the source on the second try
< 1428485408 696030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first try found only the executables
< 1428485443 681135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could try to get them running in wineconsole, but figuring out how an esolang works based on an /implementation executable/ is pretty hard unless it gives good error messages
< 1428485595 943801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it has comments explaining how it works,
< 1428485600 304775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly
< 1428485612 387364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that should make things much easier
< 1428485612 630450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can guess the rest from the source and testing
< 1428485625 830479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually think it's a complete spec, just one written in an awkward style
< 1428485627 32134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't see why you need a wineconsole for it
< 1428485632 272585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again, which is believeable for my first esolang)
< 1428485633 723881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't 
< 1428485641 141651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a hypothetical about "what if all I had was the executable"
< 1428485645 583298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see
< 1428485706 383759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's by an old compiler which doesn't optimize too much so disassembling and debugging would help a bit more than these days, but yeah.
< 1428485918 34929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006 isn't /that/ old, but the compiler itself may well be much older
< 1428485935 799197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd either be a version of DJGPP which was current at the time (i.e. basically gcc-circa-2006 levels of optimization)
< 1428485941 952752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Borland C++ 4, which was ancient even at the time
< 1428487362 453758 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cqmkmfivclveikvb QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1428487509 919162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads a US court case, and is amused to see it discussing which state's laws to use to determine which state's laws to use
< 1428487537 895492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the court case used New York state laws to determine that California state laws were those that applied to the rest of the case)
< 1428487645 964849 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain I don't know what to complain about.
< 1428487648 142198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1428487947 833848 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.207 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain about frivolous use of the complain command.
< 1428487948 594291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you.
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< 1428488351 936465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a human vs. compiler asm-writing contest
< 1428488354 661303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a range of processors
< 1428488379 496395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think on most embedded systems, the human would win easily, because IME the compilers suck there
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< 1428489342 801466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the problem is that computers only have a source code, have to stick to that literally even when the programmer wrote sucky source code, whereas humans know the purpose and hopefully even test input data to know what to optimize for
< 1428489359 17623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes the computers have test input data too, and use profile-based optimization, but that's rare)
< 1428489373 426241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1428489378 617440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should allow PGO here
< 1428489405 150069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, the benefit from it isn't usually that large, it's mostly just used to know how likely a branch is to be taken
< 1428489936 507320 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.207 PART #esoteric :"Leave channel"
< 1428489971 775238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The human usually knows a great deal of non-aliasing and frequent special case and similar information that the computer can't divine from the code.
< 1428489998 325895 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also expected array sizes or loop counts.
< 1428490501 219099 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm against using life expectantcy as a "quality of life"-measurement.
< 1428490589 946813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the risk that one set or other of the code is compiled flat-out wrong
< 1428490596 775669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely the human-generated version
< 1428490652 572243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, people produce a lot of flawed benchmark without even testing that the snippets they ran really compute the solution at all
< 1428490665 593683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I never believe timing benchmarks unless I produce them myself
< 1428490677 277796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why alioth claims it shouldn't be taken seriously
< 1428490698 924183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's too much skill influence from the human coders
< 1428490714 111333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it'd be a struggle doing some of that stuff in INTERCAL at all, let alone via the fastest possible algorithm
< 1428490746 616499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just stick to human versus human.
< 1428490756 640721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/ for people who don't know about it
< 1428490790 512877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They can use computers, which are just tools, totally not secretly our masters.)
< 1428491560 727638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you believe benchmarks?
< 1428491560 780694 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it has been run and debugged now i am depressed... there's been good and bad.
< 1428491634 444551 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Debugging benchmarks sounds like fun.
< 1428491634 859903 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: when developing full applications it is fnord illustrative of how heavy on style and light on substance java really is an amazing hack that abuses the fnord interleaving ( like in pascal :)
< 1428491715 441129 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's abso-fnording-lutely amazing.
< 1428491728 870973 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's fnord funny.
< 1428491765 777308 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord (adj): We don't for the fnord of it know what fnord means.
< 1428491769 14295 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also adv.
< 1428491771 225541 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also n.
< 1428491772 362125 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and v.
< 1428491794 205432 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life is fnord after all.
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< 1428493392 903502 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I would expect custom compiler backends to enter such a contest if people took it seriously
< 1428493413 899055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be hard to get enough people to take such a contest seriously
< 1428493436 130339 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also humans would take hours to write assembly code by hand, imagine if you gave superopt ten hours
< 1428493441 265046 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(RIP superopt)
< 1428493484 200849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did superopt just try every combination of optimization settings to see which worked best?
< 1428493513 371559 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, I'm not affraid to lose my work to this kind of stuff.
< 1428493556 308766 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Superopt
< 1428493585 210058 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in reality superopt wouldn't get very far in ten hours
< 1428493651 191666 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably make a compiler backend out of smt solvers or static analysers, some of them can guess loop invariants now
< 1428493660 467729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that page is really short on info and has a couple of external links that look like they go to the info
< 1428493664 831210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they just redirect back to itself
< 1428493736 56516 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it was “released on 3 June 1995” the fact that it still has a webpage is quite impressive
< 1428493826 784596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm downloading the source to get information about how it works
< 1428493858 230126 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely it only works for small pure functions
< 1428493899 411515 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optimises them for processors that you don't have any more
< 1428493937 493779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I keep all my old processors around just in case!
< 1428493966 774180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is smaller than I expected
< 1428493977 575580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls | wc -l
< 1428493979 465978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13
< 1428493980 713174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all are regular files
< 1428493988 263378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when does a software project only have 13 files in it?
< 1428494006 374178 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ wc -l *.{c,h}   ?
< 1428494014 357374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try ls -a instead of ls :-)
< 1428494028 123072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  5873 total
< 1428494032 880484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but .. isn't part of the project
< 1428494036 169773 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite small, yeso
< 1428494036 345276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably . is
< 1428494038 744160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes*
< 1428494064 27938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a large part of it seems to be written in a DSL, though
< 1428494067 965246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the C file being the DSL interp
< 1428494072 95329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, ok, then ls -A
< 1428494076 211482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that comes to another 5518 lines
< 1428494184 921662 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you kept your old i686 in working condition for this very moment
< 1428494204 951203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor probably works
< 1428494209 835196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the rest of the machine though
< 1428494212 307888 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it should be mentioned that present-day compilers still compile for i686, for some reasons
< 1428494231 933142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think one of the machines still has a 16-bit processor
< 1428494243 61245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I booted it up like 5 or 6 years ago to see if it was still working
< 1428494254 910037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard drive was unreadable but it could boot and run from floppy disk
< 1428494342 917169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superopt seems quite specific in its use
< 1428494353 724156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could try to get it to come up with a fast inverse square root or the like
< 1428494376 793689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unless the FPU has an instruction specifically for doing that (in which case the search will be fast), it'd be unlikely to find it in a reasonable length of time
< 1428494380 62015 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it would find the right 32-bit constant in time
< 1428494408 421839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually a range of constants that work
< 1428494419 803383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in the infamous code isn't right in the middle of it, either
< 1428494430 605314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might just have been a trial and error thing
< 1428494487 685816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, idea
< 1428494490 163041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superopt rainbow tables
< 1428494500 550475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're already running all possible program fragments already, right?
< 1428494519 341084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you may as well try some standard inputs on all of them, produce a corresponding hash code
< 1428494535 770520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when you want to implement a new function optimally, just look it up in the table and see if the impl is correct
< 1428494571 129324 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately for us humans, we love to make short passwords and long programs.
< 1428494606 673369 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could make that into a distributed "optimal functions for everything" search
< 1428494659 29368 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the problem with that is often you want to implement a partial function
< 1428494668 19222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't just table that
< 1428494698 405273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so easily as complete functions
< 1428494714 503214 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use wildcards for the inputs outside the domain, but searching with wildcards is slower.
< 1428494928 836469 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-15-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1428495064 748759 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be password schemes/hash functions with error correction codes.
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< 1428500235 385647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:49:23 <Jafet> You could probably make a compiler backend out of smt solvers  or static analysers, some of them can guess loop invariants now
< 1428500242 924733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :regehr is doing stuff like this
< 1428500248 353587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :superoptimisation with an SMT solver
< 1428500318 281021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this reminds me of the TASvideos Polarium Automated Solver War
< 1428500328 824791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which someone eventually won using a SAT solver
< 1428500393 523579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1109 http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1146 http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1192 http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1219
< 1428500601 174862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe an INTERCAL superoptimizer would be interesting
< 1428500623 339134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact: superoptimisation was pioneered by alexia massalin, who also wrote the famous Synthesis OS thesis)
< 1428500665 378718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, violin's using a satisfaction solver already (I forget the technical term for the class of satisfaction solver that gprolog has)
< 1428500695 785442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :violin?
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< 1428500787 121818 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1428500820 581790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.lang.intercal/fcxkgc7Pomk
< 1428500831 952642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(much as I hate linking Google Groups, but it isn't archived elsewhere)
< 1428500861 764239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Creating an extra thread to do the addition is somewhat inefficient"
< 1428500874 957775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, you're going to end up secretly controling nethack development through coppro, right
< 1428500899 665267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's more involved here than is public
< 1428500932 893056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just say, if I wanted to secretly control NetHack development, even without coppro I'd probably find a way
< 1428500988 400884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Google interprets the filename "violin.pl" as an URL
< 1428500991 756449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared to visit it
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< 1428501662 605030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This syntax was designed to look reassuringly familiar, yet be surprisingly  unintuitive in practice (especially when writing it by hand)."
< 1428501667 340650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to read my old esolang stuff more oftne
< 1428501673 667678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more often
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< 1428504187 117137 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am binging Girl Genius again
< 1428504197 533616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think I have just spotted an Animal Crossing reference
< 1428504228 831114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090121 Major Resetti - Mr Resetti is a mole in Animal Crossing
< 1428504423 976548 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Stop it.
< 1428504429 494691 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1428504436 659348 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press the button with a square on it
< 1428504440 246282 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a filled square that is.
< 1428504452 271157 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or press the one with two vertical lines
< 1428504455 382652 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll work as well.
< 1428504474 886455 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't fnording press the button with a triangle on it.
< 1428504504 761657 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fnord easy.
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< 1428508798 28631 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the button with a square on it, that's "maximize" in the window bar, right?
< 1428508833 984173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a filled square, though, not an unfilled square
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< 1428511558 161345 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what were you quoting above?
< 1428511580 815008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: violin documentation
< 1428511591 317916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is in the sharball in the post I linked above
< 1428511603 577731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.lang.intercal/fcxkgc7Pomk to save you the trouble of scrolling back
< 1428512191 933380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it called violin
< 1428512207 536995 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1428512449 699755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the file that implements assignments in C-INTERCAL is called fiddle.c
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< 1428512637 604927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because it fiddles with things
< 1428512680 913508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does bit-twiddling
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< 1428513006 267169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<spambot> How are you going to get a bit slimmer? It's barely possible in your case.
< 1428513014 483652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time I've seen spambots actually throw insults around
< 1428513091 156573 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, isn't that a compliment? 
< 1428513112 663258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure at this point
< 1428513123 2482 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe a expression of concern for your anorexia?
< 1428513157 190496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpreted it as "there's no /way/ someone like you is ever going to slim without the product we're selling", with a sidecurrent of "and you really need it"
< 1428513179 736420 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. From a spambot, that would make sense.
< 1428513180 580068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Pro tip: Eating spam is not a healthy diet. )
< 1428513192 16054 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is, however, delicious
< 1428513200 367811 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say so.
< 1428513236 921533 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially spam sandwiches with hot saucece
< 1428513367 991313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a store he called spamacyt
< 1428513384 521958 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been inside, but i think it's just an unfortunate portmanteau of "spa" and "pharmacy"
< 1428513418 783263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's no t on the end...that was a typo)
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< 1428515117 363665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that reply to the violin thread spam
< 1428515124 724359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just incomprehensible
< 1428515147 898719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sort-of, I think it's from someone who wants to contribute to alt.lang.intercal but doesn't know enough INTERCAL to make any sense of the content
< 1428515156 70519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.lang.intercal/aTAikUJ2yDc nice replying to 2002 posts in 2014
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< 1428515887 2998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The company that runs blogspot web site isn't widely known in Europe. For example I don't know if it is from Bermuda or from Finland; latter due to usage of double vowels in its name (Hei Hyvää päivää! Mitä kuuluu?). But I know that it knows your fetishes better than other companies and even better than you do. It's hidden under /settings/ads URL and then Interests, in case you don't know. 
< 1428515895 77685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a joke, or...
< 1428515902 488884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the joke is pretending google is a finnish company??
< 1428515930 407637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the third sentence makes me think it's a joke
< 1428515940 982817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest can be interpreted as "it's hard to discover which company it is that runs blogspot"
< 1428515955 322096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the double vowel thing only makes sense with "google"
< 1428515965 337188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because blogspot and blogger do not have two adjacent vowels in them
< 1428515972 188315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it probably is a joke, but not a very good one
< 1428515975 849632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :p
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< 1428518444 220108 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the... the Hurr Durr archives frontpage at https://www.hurrdurr.org/ doesn't list 4.0-rc7 
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< 1428520243 431859 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |
< 1428520243 669846 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  >\
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< 1428523283 798381 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSleep
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< 1428525278 755126 :orin!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/jg0irvjzb/
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< 1428529457 219783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03FreedomSka 5*  10New user account
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< 1428530446 639037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42340&oldid=42332 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (+18) 10
< 1428530467 108477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EncryptFuck14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42341 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (+706) 10Created page with "'''EncryptFuck''' is a encrypted version of a similar brainfuck code created by [[User:FreedomSka|FreedomSka]]  This is a comment <pre> : COMMENTS </pre> The syntax it's like ..."
< 1428530586 667982 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming is hard
< 1428530601 207032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EncryptFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42342&oldid=42341 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (+28) 10
< 1428530615 885392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can be all like "This bad default is breaking stuff and fixing it won't hurt user code" and some idiot user's code does break
< 1428530701 821829 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1428530705 279327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this applies to life in general.
< 1428530721 764784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EncryptFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42343&oldid=42342 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (+24) 10
< 1428530782 40725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:FreedomSka14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42344 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (+53) 10Created page with "[[https://esolangs.org/wiki/EncryptFuck|EncryptFuck]]"
< 1428530820 147254 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello. hellørjan.
< 1428530821 249522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:FreedomSka14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42345&oldid=42344 5* 03FreedomSka 5* (-38) 10
< 1428530826 723755 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average, we're all idiot user code.
< 1428531099 854240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjoily
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< 1428532127 394438 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lleu
< 1428532128 633158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02lleu: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09<http://esolangs.org/>. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.)
< 1428532168 954121 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks boily
< 1428532170 323360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Meq14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42346&oldid=42337 5* 03194.168.93.97 5* (+90) 10
< 1428532224 780600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03TheMeq 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Meq-ide-screenshot.png10]]": Screenshot of the Meq IDE
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< 1428535640 398689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorio is a pretty fun hardware description language.
< 1428535664 898792 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a page for it on Esolang.
< 1428535672 860297 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Focusing, obviously, on how to compute with it.
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