< 1426809798 80184 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the first bunch of the comics around the beginning of the start... < 1426809835 40517 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426809940 177493 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426810002 278255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats boily after clicking through _far_ too many comics without finding it -----### < 1426810074 518667 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426810224 499766 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426810250 829589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1426810281 129761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: stop referring to nonexisting comics twh < 1426810372 290470 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1426811236 242600 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426811286 900655 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1426811374 260073 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426811744 681980 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: updating fonts < 1426811790 746316 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1426811830 500344 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426812188 259485 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426812375 774193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the many kinds of duck typing < 1426812434 184304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it quacks like a duck http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/011211.html and swims like a duck http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/011213.html and types like a duck http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/011228.html then it must be a duck < 1426812519 535292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@int-esnack < 1426812519 536189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1426812598 116749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my impression is that kellett probably isn't a programmer and wouldn't know what duck typing means. < 1426812716 247958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is however well educated in english, spanish, and cartoon art propaganda < 1426812733 473566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and literature. < 1426812850 734828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, searching for kellett brought up in the "people also search for" section: http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dr_strange.jpg < 1426812882 286577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's brad guigar) < 1426812893 534535 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hopqewkkhcqfcicz JOIN :#esoteric < 1426813277 757527 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ok, not a programmer... http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/020124.html < 1426813344 965026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _is_ conceivable he knows html, i think he has a website or something. < 1426813360 463616 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20150313 is still grey ... < 1426813383 701529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if he were a programmer, he'd be able to get his bloody archives working properly. < 1426813388 746592 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I expect a programmer would start with IP, TCP or *maybe* HTTP, but not HTML < 1426813399 527907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trying to find old drive comics is painful.) < 1426813418 705733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm expecting too much < 1426813448 287934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically, having only the last year listed in the archives isn't very good when you've essentially been on a >1 year hiatus...) < 1426813485 146729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you add that the comic has _always_ been sporadically posted _and_ urls are date-based... < 1426813490 567179 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is accruing his GG debt, one day at a time... < 1426813520 530451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, the sporadic updates kill it. < 1426813562 710531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for girl genius, i know it's regular so i can skip a week back or forth < 1426813568 973229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually quite possible to navigate GG by date because in at most 3 guesses you'll hit a comic < 1426813569 846328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are chapter links < 1426813576 896035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1426813605 483667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't guess, i find the right chapter and then skip in week increments < 1426813650 538559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or multiples of them < 1426813660 776559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, discovering the chapter index was a huge boon < 1426813699 373132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I tend to skip by months, and being too lazy to do the math *g* < 1426813736 724009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if yafgc could get its archives back. having an arc with _huge_ connections to past events going on at the same time as a big subset of the archives are not there is also painful. < 1426813765 376779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: heh < 1426813825 105998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sort of half-lazy, i'll skip weeks within a month but then sometimes use prev/next to cross month boundaries < 1426813839 451838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful python feature someone pointed out: < 1426813849 393137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = [1]; (9,x)[1] += [2] < 1426813867 169682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guess what that does? print an error? modify x? < 1426813886 74731 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just keep the last comic i've read bookmarkes < 1426813888 217692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment < 1426813894 74509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is both hth < 1426813894 879087 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I can't guess. < 1426813906 911514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1426813907 810835 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeHellor! < 1426813949 14016 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is vile. that is very vile. < 1426813954 412688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: nah i only do that for the darths & droids alternative comics < 1426813957 915554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck. what the fuck. what the fuck. < 1426813978 906402 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't found any such weirdness in Rust yet < 1426813994 218876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than surprising method dispatch sometimes with references < 1426814004 409418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even manage to mess it up like that < 1426814019 112933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 if you read the bytecode it's pretty clear why, it pulls the element of the tuple out, does an inplace add on it, and then tries to put it back in the tuple and dies < 1426814023 65719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 and if the inplace add mutates then rip < 1426814041 188222 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this 3 or 2? < 1426814054 414107 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is profundly disgusting. < 1426814064 642912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Both. < 1426814076 836041 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equivalent in Rust would need &mut and * < 1426814082 668260 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please telle me you aren't as corrupted as that. < 1426814083 564331 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as soon as they finish that target they'll work on a windows box here and i don't know < 1426814094 533686 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yikes! < 1426814094 931249 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: modify the code... i think, but thanks < 1426814105 405631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :let mut x = 1; *(9,&mut x) += 2; // This will work < 1426814111 963782 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1426814115 900709 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :let mut x = 1; *(9,&mut x).1 += 2; // This will work < 1426814181 299731 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int a[10]; < 1426814183 258190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: the only comic i read in batches such that it would make sense to bookmark the last one is smbc, but that has no continuity... < 1426814187 887370 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define A [a] < 1426814195 388345 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A + 1 < 1426814203 732724 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A+=1 < 1426814228 831401 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that monstrous or what < 1426814273 391750 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426814374 529437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that even work < 1426814380 498249 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of course < 1426814383 409844 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I've seen worse < 1426814394 86961 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in IOCCC, of course) < 1426814408 851492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :% { echo '#define A q'; echo 2A } | clang -E - | tail -n 1 < 1426814408 909029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A < 1426814413 572776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: recall that a[b] = *(a+b) and + is commutative < 1426814419 644238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 2 A would work. < 1426814420 809479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A doesn't. < 1426814468 566885 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. needs cpp -traditional < 1426814554 225485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426814642 122141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426814672 356203 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you allow -traditional, you will get something more strange: < 1426814672 394352 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~$ ( echo '#define A(x) "x"'; echo 'A(v)' ) | cpp -E -traditional - | grep '^[^#]' < 1426814675 26067 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"v" < 1426815011 131172 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Even if modern cpp does tokens, how the heck is "2A" a token!?!? < 1426815228 406042 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: AZURE CHICKEN < 1426815321 660593 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. the lexer thinks "2A" is an integer with a size affix? < 1426815344 601632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 awesomeint < 1426815383 225777 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. #define A a] 2[A < 1426815409 161002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1426815518 61559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my "A preprocessing number begins with a digit optionally preceded by a period (.) and may be followed by valid identifier characters and the character sequences e+, e-, E+, E-, p+, p-, P+, or P-." Okay. < 1426815576 771551 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1thisisavalidnubmer < 1426815578 304371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2wrongsdonotmake+1right < 1426815617 534219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :covering all the bases < 1426815644 782561 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks. < 1426815667 485962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :order-pp does 8foo for all its syntax things < 1426815669 231217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 8if(...) < 1426815777 480610 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's... rather impressive. < 1426815835 413404 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426816134 826809 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course these pp-tokens can still be used for concatenation to produce identifiers. < 1426816145 613996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so evil < 1426816234 934176 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426816247 707782 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see because although 2A is a number, a ## 2A beigns with a letter and is therefore an identifier < 1426816534 797268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ## 2e+2 < 1426816809 451928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the result [of ##] is not a valid preprocessing token, the behavior is undefined." < 1426816816 23595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So good luck with that. < 1426816825 511695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1426817924 915435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426817937 484178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426818069 26612 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct wtf{struct wtf(*x)();}; extern struct wtf srsly; int main(){srsly.x().x().x().x();/*trololol*/} < 1426818229 864470 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct wtf wut;while(wut.x)wut=wut.x(); < 1426818411 161246 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, can this be made a bit more screwy? < 1426818775 688082 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1426819823 497650 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I rename x to oO < 1426819845 423337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1426819851 810502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1426819875 702199 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly.Oo().Oo(); < 1426819927 913341 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly.Oo().oO(); < 1426820738 324424 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426821227 256020 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426821511 162272 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426821783 511529 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426822013 529719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426822990 785774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i've drunk too much coke < 1426823136 508217 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426823327 839631 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: drink water < 1426823348 349594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONE < 1426823375 383597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had a cup on the table which he'd forgot < 1426823523 678778 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426823866 438260 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426824337 128378 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426824413 159730 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426825119 526809 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:7040:2907:b65:5776 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426825699 786506 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426826101 695112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It has sometimes been suggested that half pi should be called hi, and written τ. Explain why this idea was not discovered until recently." < 1426826150 17760 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this from a world where pi = circumference / radius? < 1426826236 439730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Jafet already asked me that in the past. < 1426826282 831616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it could be a world where pi = diameter / circumference hth < 1426826299 908432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Could be < 1426827263 537167 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426827440 382014 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426827551 642730 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426827591 423212 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426827898 982318 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426828091 540953 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426829053 852562 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1426829401 547807 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426829974 482123 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426830010 486734 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426832482 526503 :FallNWolf!Its@cm-84.213.218.92.getinternet.no QUIT : < 1426833686 649052 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426834685 659925 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426836033 537197 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is past me an idiot who leaves things to the night before? < 1426836105 549156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's shifted in time < 1426836466 91451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: many people do that < 1426836471 988365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1426836588 78564 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well now future me is going to have to survive another ~20 hours without sleep < 1426836660 655372 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe pass out in a subway station or something < 1426836757 159996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1426836861 668681 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426836866 460963 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd better work on the graphics assignment due in a week or so... naaaaahh < 1426837207 498100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you still get 3 or 4 hours of sleep out of this night? < 1426837679 973868 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426837991 864180 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426838028 325177 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e that is also a good idea < 1426838871 611628 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hopqewkkhcqfcicz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1426839926 290753 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426840106 586106 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1426843154 464519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426845254 778525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426845463 359075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1426847059 641061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426847208 867738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426847444 158049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm getting this bug that makes no sense < 1426847461 257848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels a bit like a compiler bug, but I can't reproduce it in a simple program < 1426847485 335238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb shows that I'm passing an argument to a function, and the argument that actually arrives at that function is different < 1426847516 155419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426847526 919046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is across a shared library boundary across a pair of nested function pointers, which would explain why it hadn't been caught before, at least < 1426847698 429495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, are you willing/able to share the source of the offending program? < 1426847712 858415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes but it's pretty large < 1426847720 433827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the shared library in question is libnethack < 1426847750 181536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember something like this having happened befoer < 1426847753 475665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm working on a testbench < 1426847764 447536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wanted to get it working before I pushed the first version < 1426847768 203596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could push an interim version < 1426848022 349993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: git clone -b testbench http://nethack4.org/media/nethack4.git < 1426848078 450493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :build and install according to the normal build instructions, then run testbench/src/testmain.c/testmain.bin from the build directory < 1426848486 638906 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: memory corruption? is this optimized? what system and compiler? < 1426848508 199286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -Og, gcc (Ubuntu 4.9.1-16ubuntu6) 4.9.1 < 1426848542 820881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1426848574 210025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I change "callback" to "msg_getlin_callback" (i.e. hardcoding its value), everything works fine; that may well be because it's a private function, though < 1426848582 310560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus forcing aimake to change the link to static to be able to get at it < 1426848589 733684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on line 747 of testgame.c < 1426848629 548561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the problem is that the pointer "lin" given as an argument to the callback is a different pointer from the pointer that the callback receives in its first argument, but only the second time test_getlin is called) < 1426848634 434734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how reproducible is this? < 1426848650 662211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and have you tried to run with valgrind and/or gcc's undefined behaviour catcher traps? < 1426848763 41083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 100% reproducible; valgrind reports reading uninitialized data inside msg_getlin_callback (blaming a stack allocation on messages.c:42, which only allocates one variable and it's initialized); I haven't tried with ubsan < 1426848798 496285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily I don't really have much experience hunting down these kinds of bugs < 1426848906 855004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's just a flat out case of the code making no sense < 1426848914 5843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder what ltrace will see at the API boundary < 1426848937 569841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using a recent enough gdb? < 1426848961 445058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, I definitely recommend you to upgrade it < 1426849343 35987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ltrace can't see the calls in question at all (presumably it can't see calls made via function pointers), but it is reporting double or even triple frees that valgrind didn't see < 1426849520 920306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1426849562 270578 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it possible that you have declared the function differently in different source files, or cast it to the wrong type of function pointer? < 1426849639 218330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :void (*callback)(const char *lin, void *arg) ... void msg_getlin_callback(const char *str, void *msg_to_fill) < 1426849640 718954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matches < 1426849790 606116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1426850235 871562 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1426850380 114077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PLUS-VALUE CHICKEN < 1426850727 681542 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426851000 251226 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426852708 919728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426852729 855979 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42159 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1136) 10Created page with "'''ReThue''' is a superset of the [[Thue]] language proposed by [[User:SuperJedi224]]. It adds javascript-style Regular Expression constructs, and slightly improves the input ..." < 1426852854 354239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42160&oldid=42159 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+22) 10 < 1426852992 991936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42161&oldid=42160 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+30) 10 < 1426853005 808527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42162&oldid=42161 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-10) 10 < 1426853027 302800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42163&oldid=42162 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10 < 1426853086 306398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42164&oldid=42163 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+46) 10 < 1426853128 169529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ReThue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42165&oldid=42164 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+8) 10 < 1426853162 237042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42166&oldid=42153 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+13) 10/* R */ < 1426853216 148841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426853531 944625 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426853690 313750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426854198 123838 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426854795 181900 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1426854966 83176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426854994 811975 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1426855518 336923 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426856320 75322 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426857422 985338 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426857784 439941 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426858489 127314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426860369 885670 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426861671 610976 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels like I don't need C++ I just need a larger C library < 1426861810 621238 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, one with better functions for strings and dynamic arrays < 1426861835 251709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very hard to write useful type-generic libraries in C. < 1426861856 153815 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it? < 1426861861 736668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1426861865 488100 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1426861868 29536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ templates are a big win for that purpose < 1426861874 49587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: low battery, I'll be back once I've plugged my laptop in < 1426861894 705829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b/c without preprocessor hackery, the best you can do is make everything (void *), sacrificing type safety just like Java did when you had to cast everything to and from Object to put it into containers, and also requiring boxing < 1426861909 576971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e., your structure cannot store the data inline, it must be indirect through a pointer, likely incurring a heap allocation) < 1426861924 352464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :preprocessor hackery works to define type-generic structures, but it's incredibly ugly and annoying to use < 1426861960 948142 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoudln't that be char* not void*? < 1426861974 346426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1426861980 612341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what makes you say that but I'm pretty sure the answer is no < 1426861987 416412 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you use gcc extension allowing pointer arith on void*) < 1426862024 266372 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean,consider qsort and bsearch < 1426862037 303485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qsort uses void *... < 1426862052 289382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just cast to char * if you want < 1426862193 572900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426862220 148410 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can still store the data inline < 1426862241 296410 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you simply allocate a char[] of the appropriate size < 1426862275 199253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need to think about things like internal pointers in data structures < 1426862298 775541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard. anyway it's horribly unpleasant in manual in C to do the thing you really want, and you don't get type-safety out of it < 1426862316 420865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're likely to be much happier at least flicking your compiler's C++ switch on and just using templates and nothing else < 1426862339 119613 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426862412 648179 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if we simply pass an initializer and destructor to the make_array() function? < 1426862444 573379 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the same way that we pass a comparator to qsort) < 1426862446 993664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, what if we just manually run C++ -> C compilers in our head and abandon readability or safety < 1426862453 985353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo this will be fun and not at all pointlessly torturous for us < 1426862520 403665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean really what you do in C is just hand-code all your structures or deal with the excessive heap allocation and indirection and lack of type safety < 1426862528 283123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because getting what you really want is too hellish < 1426862538 74808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is why writing C is tedious < 1426862605 476697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glib is a pretty good example of the "just deal with the indirection and lack of type safety of boxing everything" < 1426862610 524055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean it works but it's not very fun < 1426862625 497796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you don't care about laying things out well in memory or the costs of heap allocation then why on earth are you writing in C < 1426862809 57076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :glib has a bit of "store data inline" stuff, IIRC. Based on preprocessor stuffery. < 1426862813 357390 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your hardware vendor has only a port of gcc 2.95 < 1426862814 302697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the GArray thing. < 1426862821 164736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1426862828 484465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do templating with the preprocessor < 1426862831 936786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it works! < 1426862832 506466 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: generally? because C library interfaces tend to be easier to understand than C++ interfaces < 1426862835 468797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the worst thing to maintain in the universe < 1426862850 342026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: is something like std::vector really hard to understand < 1426862857 441481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean sure boost or whtaever is over the top but < 1426862915 655526 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything in C++ that isn't hard to understand < 1426862917 465560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You provide an element size in g_array_new, and the type name to a 'g_array_index' macro, and things are generally ugly. E.g. you can't g_array_append_val(array, 42) to an array of ints because it would try to do &42 in there. < 1426862920 406977 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when I use C++ it is only for the sake of string, vector, and sometimes for custom streams. < 1426862943 382930 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently the sort implementation in libstdc++ doesn't use swap at all, it uses moves instead < 1426862946 53379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/changetip/comments/2zgr59/when_you_tip_the_wrong_amount_happened_to_me_at/cpisjsh ahahahahahahaha < 1426862946 456396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm not sure, trying to think of something atm < 1426862965 98598 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why we can't have a fsopen() function converting a C string to a FILE* I don't know... < 1426862971 182196 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This means that you can write swap specializations and they won't get used, you need a move constructor instead or you will get terrible performance < 1426862988 479680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you try to write an API as convenient as std::vector that has the same memory/performance properties you want then you'll end up with a huge mass of preprocessor trickery < 1426862988 789374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, in C < 1426863024 3739 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in other words, you can't sort lists of containers fast and have the container code be C++03 compatible < 1426863097 897803 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general C++ code causes a lot of unnecessary copies (mostly because of memory ownership issues). < 1426863131 266518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1426863133 130203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has lots of problems < 1426863141 835429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being worse at writing generic code than C isn't one of them < 1426863259 562865 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: to be fair these issues are with the standard C++ library not the language C++ itself < 1426863266 580073 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any programming system that doesn't cause a lot of unnecessary copies < 1426863331 214381 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you can only choose the extent of the problem... < 1426863466 933269 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes channel. < 1426863471 27530 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching and eating popcorn. < 1426863474 912442 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't stop the entertainment now. < 1426863541 548048 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A variant of thue where each rule may only permute existing symbols < 1426863576 480954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: sorry, i got enlightened and realised that c is the best language ever < 1426863625 974894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is full of workarounds to the rest of C++, it's become a self-sustaining loop at this point < 1426863640 361345 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is an ok language ruined for many purposes by its string type. < 1426863670 146598 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426863679 83654 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poorly chosen string type was then optimized for at the hardware level. < 1426863684 796872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C doesn't really have a string type. < 1426863695 992081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has a type that is named char for bad reasons < 1426863697 227522 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: EXACTLY < 1426863712 809918 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :WG21 apparently didn't consider it self-sustaining enough because they threw in a concurrent programming model < 1426863828 801783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they added threads, so they could no longer evade the issue without looking like lunatics < 1426863890 644180 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone (with better taste than me) should write a modern replacement C stdlib, with blackjack! 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:shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426881855 762896 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426882103 203160 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426882107 74347 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426882531 609057 :zzo38!~zzo38@d50-92-136-220.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426882605 934284 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1426882702 409244 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426882724 974204 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426883279 289290 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426883295 912626 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit! facebook tells people your location! < 1426883323 780582 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426883331 613262 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426883439 243641 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means if you happen to be seeing your mistress, and you message your wife... big trouble < 1426883455 277570 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1426883597 583069 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whaty < 1426883629 365927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wait until Google Now tells you that you have an appointment with a divorce lawyer, based on the exact same information. < 1426883630 539141 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426883636 778881 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426883683 213834 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qdb.us/301866 is cute < 1426883716 585348 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Siri, what are my appointments today" "Divorce lawyer at 5, and doctor at 1, you stepped in poison ivy 30 seconds ago." < 1426884000 467348 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I was using screen through UofT's computers, but for some reason it doesn't forward utf-8 properly < 1426884117 568930 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is important for a channel that uses as many Æあα as this one. < 1426884141 638793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :öh < 1426884168 632213 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MULTIOCULAR < 1426884170 346946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 ae UTF-16BE: a66e Decimal: ꙮ \ ꙮ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1426884254 171446 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426884287 479368 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1426884331 962631 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-12-57.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426884567 717802 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426884612 567799 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426885249 721367 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.56.231.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426885278 196671 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.56.231.178 QUIT :Changing host < 1426885278 198611 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426885322 533262 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426885513 27416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, don't make the others jelous of you < 1426885513 403732 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if you are going for fast load time, you can omit it. :) actually, i think < 1426885715 462757 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1426885997 531428 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426886398 461296 :Valentina!~canaima@186-91-225-70.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426886654 235383 :Valentina!~canaima@186-91-225-70.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426886687 222463 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426887034 646589 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426887120 489215 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426887127 232162 :zzo38!~zzo38@d50-92-136-220.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have SSH account, but to access some programs, I have to first SSH to one server and then from there, SSH to the server that is physically on top of that one, in order to access GCC and so on < 1426887638 453617 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hth < 1426887639 458764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1426887675 681221 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1426887676 996253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1426887801 584432 :zzo38!~zzo38@d50-92-136-220.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think now I thought of the way to make in a 6502 code and using tables to make a signed 16-bit number output as a decimal format. < 1426887850 439571 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :ihateoctal < 1426888255 12868 :ihateoctal!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1426888540 664292 :zzo38!~zzo38@d50-92-136-220.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1426888545 585529 :zzo38!~zzo38@d50-92-136-220.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426888766 580939 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-12-57.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426888795 866046 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426890148 849449 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1426890330 586649 :vodkode_!~vodkode@fl-71-49-12-57.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426890651 626219 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426891015 724916 :YogeeBear!~Yogi@173.200.182.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426891052 215195 :YogeeBear!~Yogi@173.200.182.181 PART :#esoteric < 1426891300 966529 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426891562 540525 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C6F4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426891563 367385 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-49-12-57.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426891797 816189 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1426891975 801260 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426892153 566146 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426892284 427318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426892304 6027 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426892319 795573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426892615 37948 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: quitan < 1426895175 627688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1426895177 440757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1426895416 284460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have an "official", oerjan-approved way of abbreviating "that didn't help"? < 1426895457 827566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's "tdnh". < 1426895464 513520 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1426895465 896501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1426895481 495264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? htdnh < 1426895482 644906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :htdnh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1426895519 816730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la wisdom/tdnh < 1426895521 204432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 19 Jan 6 17:40 wisdom/tdnh < 1426895720 582877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, commit date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:03:21 +0000 < 1426895793 563645 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.234 JOIN :#esoteric