< 1424563539 413982 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1424564531 988382 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPBLARGL': given N, take the Nth prime number and split every 3 bits to get a brainfuck program. < 1424565076 422087 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1424565285 982785 :not^v!~notnot^v@12.157.133.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424565551 471540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424565655 642271 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what is the proportion of prime numbers that yields correct brainfuck programs? < 1424565662 538996 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and terminating brainfuck programs? < 1424565688 654861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424565712 255259 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that I wish you all a good night < 1424565736 198672 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1424565929 198645 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424566165 29648 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload nor http://esolangs.org/wiki/INTERCAL has been a featured page?!??! < 1424566230 428719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I think it probably ought to be < 1424566286 819278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: basically the problem is that elliott keeps making me do the featured article process, so I can't really feature languages I've had a large hand in for fear of bias accusations < 1424566307 628107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly I didn't invent INTERCAL, but I am responsible for much of its recent development < 1424566311 985846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then other people should try to help too? < 1424566326 836831 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's prec prec prec prec < 1424566328 799450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate cpressey. he's a sysop and everything < 1424566341 136775 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1424566368 888735 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate Linus Torvald < 1424566378 434208 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I second that nomination < 1424566396 332511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully linus torvalds will go nowhere near the esolangs wiki < 1424566470 161494 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate elliott, because because something something elliott something. < 1424566472 749702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be honoured if he did, but I think he has better things to be doing < 1424566479 337460 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, is it an issue of needing seven proxies so skiddies don't shit up the place, or what, elliott < 1424566484 563891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to nominate cpressey < 1424566495 479600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, the last C-INTERCAL release /was/ at the request of Donald Knuth < 1424566498 557046 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like shitting o people that deserve it? ais523 < 1424566505 381084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we went really fast on that one, just in case it was somehow holding up TAOCP < 1424566510 657624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: coherency helps < 1424566537 865731 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know is some big wig, probably torvald gordon ramseys the tech world < 1424566555 296473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1424566560 143252 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :torvald,* < 1424566574 54257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to get more coherent over time or should I just put you on ignore now < 1424566585 456576 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a bad day? < 1424566588 923855 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: I thinkg to gordonramsey is a perfectly cromulent verb. < 1424566593 528856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :accepted < 1424566605 704659 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g\b// < 1424566625 253463 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :english, where everything is a verb, and an idiom < 1424566648 560525 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :behind seven layers of postmodernism irony, more like it < 1424566696 515266 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone invent a VCS that works on .doc files? < 1424566711 164131 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I thinkg M-Files already does it. < 1424566738 766089 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah bordel de... why must I type a g after a k?) < 1424566747 962381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Do you need such thing so much? < 1424566749 487575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the "track changes" thing built into Word but it's really bad for VCS purposes IMO < 1424566768 859434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also just put the .doc files in git or something, it'll still track versions < 1424566771 525521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Word has a diff feature < 1424566774 699685 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vcs? < 1424566781 411486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: version control system < 1424566783 555568 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: version control system. < 1424566786 696341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ben.balter.com/2015/02/06/word-diff/ < 1424566796 991921 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1424566814 526571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Microsoft Word isn't really the best way to do these kind of things anyways especially use with VCS < 1424566828 896048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ^ < 1424566842 618851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, http://blog.martinfenner.org/2014/08/25/using-microsoft-word-with-git/ looks fun too < 1424567031 164165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As you work, Word Diff sits on a server (in my case Heroku), waiting for you to push your changes. When you do, it springs into action, automatically converting the Word document to Markdown after each commit:" < 1424567043 208242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work out whether this is better or /even worse/ than Word's built-in diff funciton < 1424567120 6504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it assumes that Word documents can't have complex formatting at all < 1424567134 764398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in turn, implies that whatever task you're doing, it's one for which Word is the wrong tool < 1424567164 902940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it assumes that you're okay with diffs that ignore complex formatting things most of the time < 1424567466 156052 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or makes noobish tuples < 1424567480 565258 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(, "words") < 1424567738 840879 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then probably highlight color it to preserve it < 1424568225 359797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1424569009 242482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1424569064 156744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1424569064 341883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1h 49m 11s ago: Because of you, "hth" has entered my general vocabulary. I am not happy about this circumstance. < 1424569097 141752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ c.c.c \o/ < 1424569097 473582 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | c.c.c   | < 1424569097 619815 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | c.c.c   | < 1424569097 619936 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /^\ c.c    |\ < 1424569097 620009 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  >\ c.c   /´\ < 1424569139 77308 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1424569144 758002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily! < 1424569164 530886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: your script is still broken hth < 1424569190 327959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1424569194 866225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1424569600 183229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "(24)" :: Int < 1424569601 476962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1424569604 15625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1424569846 140329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "(((((())))))" < 1424569847 526310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1424570162 768869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost written the session 63 < 1424570192 480805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'll have to start using 6 bit numbers! < 1424570206 586545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1424570207 570097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1424570233 126783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one-off joke ruined by off-by-one error < 1424570254 113372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am using entirely decimal numbers in ASCII for the session numbers here anyways anyone who want to store in binary should probably use at least 16-bits though < 1424570325 185454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you are expecting to go on for a while. < 1424570354 975829 :not^v!~notnot^v@12.157.133.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1424570365 629496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know how long it expects to go on, but I expect 16-bits is going to be enough even if it is longer than expected. < 1424570588 16791 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is hth? < 1424570597 432145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1424570602 443527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1424570621 380203 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems wrong < 1424570676 473022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying that doesn't help? < 1424570717 301629 :not^v!~notnot^v@12.157.133.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424570720 695241 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is a hackkkkk < 1424570743 49047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1424570755 559340 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1424570761 272886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is at least slow < 1424570767 465149 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 6 bits is enough to fit 0 to 63, hth < 1424570779 958249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: curses! < 1424570835 915896 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may or may not mean that your joke is still off by one, because 64 will need an extra bit < 1424570888 388332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead horse floggers anonymous is thataway ---> < 1424570902 49705 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u mad bro? < 1424570923 340280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MAD LIKE HELL AND CANOT TAKE IT ANY MORE < 1424570951 596145 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should become a CTO < 1424570966 616668 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear when the servers go down, the server admins are the least of your problems < 1424570993 178988 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that story was probably a joke, it's probably not a lie < 1424570994 493059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no intention to become any kind of O < 1424571007 79724 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoC*O < 1424571056 691164 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your case it would have to be CTØ < 1424571085 941610 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or CTꙮ < 1424571096 680609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ < 1424571097 777105 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only I knew what encoding I need to see that < 1424571106 110481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] < 1424571117 844585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: utf8 hth < 1424571134 792165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the first unironic "u mad" in this channel < 1424571137 350827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a milestone < 1424571155 551468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now _font_ might be a bit harder. < 1424571160 278534 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already utf-8, oerjan < 1424571167 55938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is anything dulla says unironic? < 1424571175 119618 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1424571186 903247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if the answer is no then it might as well be yes < 1424571193 829581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1424571197 579645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hide absolutely everything behind irony I'm just going to take you sincerely :p < 1424571200 378530 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424571222 393468 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my oration skills are good enough for intentional irony < 1424571235 558337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuure < 1424571237 318734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote oerjan: if the answer is no then it might as well be yes < 1424571241 841803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's good both in context and out of context < 1424571245 186695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1232) oerjan: if the answer is no then it might as well be yes < 1424571297 159525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: anyway if it's any consolation i cannot see the multiocular o in my client either. < 1424571307 526080 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not descriptive < 1424571318 404492 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular is not in my scope < 1424571323 639566 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it it a double o? < 1424571324 523592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't in mine either, despite the fact that I recently installed a font whose entire purpose is that it contains obscure Unicode < 1424571332 38354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only imagine its greatness. or check the logs. < 1424571348 601155 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or search the unicode site for it < 1424571380 391032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, i can cut and paste it into my browser, which shows it just fine. < 1424571427 965436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine still doesnt like it < 1424571467 600008 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424571481 142643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the repository browser now that HackEgo is present again < 1424571499 686101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing of note is shachaf removing pbflistdeluxe. < 1424571558 777352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: i believe there's a separate double o character < 1424571587 671381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꙫ < 1424571607 453058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one has upper and lower case variants < 1424571683 860343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ꙭ < 1424571684 922764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DOUBLE MONOCULAR O] < 1424571717 569264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those cyrillic monks had a strange relationship with eyes < 1424571788 913431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_O_(Cyrillic) is one my browser doesn't show either < 1424571920 826736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't even agree how many eyes seraphim have, I think? < 1424572223 949914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl StateT IO < 1424572224 133846 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `unmtl' failed with: `StateT IO' is not applied to enough arguments, giving `/\A B. IO -> A (B, IO)' < 1424572230 487317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl StateT s IO < 1424572230 634010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `unmtl' failed with: `StateT s IO' is not applied to enough arguments, giving `/\A. s -> IO (A, s)' < 1424572235 830553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl StateT s IO a < 1424572235 976827 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> IO (a, s) < 1424572270 791062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's probably more than you can draw, anyway. < 1424572582 382271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : for the sake of fantasy i would like you all to believe that i have irc pings hooked up to an alarm <-- works for me < 1424573190 646756 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alpdnqqwgrxiaryy JOIN :#esoteric < 1424573387 695583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424574813 469325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: building a massive watermill complex to power your massive water pumping complex does not work when the pumps drain the very water that powers the watermills. < 1424574932 945561 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: playing dwarf fortress? < 1424574937 265895 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1424574964 689253 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have watermills over dry land < 1424574979 722692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1424574992 455874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. obsidian apocalypse < 1424575014 334272 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to rethink this < 1424575068 757898 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll route a few aquifers into the cistern < 1424575245 893849 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The cistern exists because the river stops during the winter) < 1424575305 274712 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the massive water mill complex http://snag.gy/Z4QOq.jpg < 1424575513 453507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is built to provide 1000 units of power, currently providing 300, which isn't enough to move it < 1424575523 561068 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, 2000 < 1424576003 232590 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the feeling this is a dwarf fortress thing < 1424576211 659676 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: yup. It is part of a plan to glass the whole panet < 1424576221 771416 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*planet < 1424576260 356981 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs more fire < 1424576269 299933 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: CLARIFIED CHICKEN < 1424576273 108883 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recall the blunderbuss minecart exploit < 1424576279 387265 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1424576293 257885 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the things you can do with that < 1424576331 974899 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, eventually the watermills will be self-powered when the cistern has been filled properly. < 1424576369 92039 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then I'll have lots of power available to power, well, anything I want < 1424576382 403446 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there is the catapult exploit, I wonder if that works with warheads, too < 1424576419 581762 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, you honestly don't need it for catapults, stones are cheap as dirst < 1424576422 308777 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dirt < 1424576441 251367 :not^v!~notnot^v@12.157.133.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424576459 319751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh a cyclops. pull the lever of death, and pump the pumps of death! < 1424576476 339330 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424576510 151388 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently, the pumps of death are dwarfpowered. Soon, very soon, they will be water-powered. < 1424576604 766039 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be more efficient to have more pumps? < 1424576608 912654 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep the pumps < 1424576642 600176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424576777 4329 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/6hG8F.jpg shown is a cyclops murdering the merchants, the entrance (currently being pumped full of water to prevent any dwarves being stupid enough to run outside), and part of aqueducts running to the power plant < 1424576810 607835 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does pressurised water still do that thing? < 1424576817 63259 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where it moves faster than a game tick? < 1424576858 208031 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a great way to make sure things in the aquaduct stay in the aquaduct < 1424576869 918700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 63 < 1424576884 821300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 63: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1424577017 357978 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The merchants are leaving, porbably because their merchandise is being carried away by pressurized water < 1424577045 373524 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and because most of them have been dismembered by a cyclops < 1424577074 328530 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably the dismemberment < 1424577088 775022 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how the merchants can't take the heat < 1424577091 905442 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^) < 1424577133 778895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this level20.tex? This is the one involving the rune caster < 1424577225 663243 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cyclops apparently dorwned before the magma could even getnear it < 1424577244 652865 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the merchants killed it. < 1424577503 109805 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some migrants have arrived, despite the danger" < 1424577568 851593 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rimshots ;_; < 1424577646 839967 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on guys, come right on in, never mind the drowned merchants and cyclopes... < 1424578049 978049 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1424578118 840507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/Obzd2.jpg < 1424578944 432692 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424578952 320587 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424579194 124888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek anagol's recent entries has moved too fast < 1424579285 91203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it used to be more than 24 hours before? < 1424579659 264829 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1424580079 460036 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424581764 149411 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424581895 468508 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1424581926 404954 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424582229 259548 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1424583386 548008 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1424583490 599236 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1424583538 843771 :chaosagent!~quassel@98.210.97.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424583556 998491 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1424584486 730523 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1424584502 342902 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424585114 592253 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1424585193 625946 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit, a miner was caught in a cave in, got confused by the dust, and fell into the cistern. < 1424585253 442347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the water undrinkable now < 1424585302 398487 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. Hopefully we can wash the blood away after the fishermen retrieve the corpse. < 1424585305 393282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eau de dorf < 1424585363 531871 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I hate using cave ins, though it is sometimes necessary < 1424585407 124819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :will they now all die from waterborn disease < 1424585441 371798 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's modeled, though I could be wrong. In any case they have plenty of booze to drink < 1424585462 618113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1424585530 563765 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cistern is for the generation of energy during the winter when the river stops. < 1424585533 242048 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424585603 943648 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, hes actually alive still. < 1424585640 336583 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he swam out! he's a good swimmer I guess < 1424585693 195229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all's well that ends well < 1424585738 426601 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with luck now I can pressurize the cistern < 1424585778 911225 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus having a way to literally blast enemies to death < 1424586468 795705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is this the onion <-- possibly r/nottheonion? < 1424586498 796388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's pretty old < 1424586595 276382 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1424587024 939296 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424587217 606488 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424587486 353300 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears that drowning merchants is a good way to get free stuff < 1424587578 249578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's your way of getting free stuff? < 1424587614 583443 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well they come every season, even if i drown them every season, so yeah < 1424587645 333893 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seal the doors and pump water into the trade depot < 1424587674 558689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like merchants should sue you if that happen a lot it will be recognized? < 1424587688 75293 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, we'll see < 1424587703 30009 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they try to sue me I'll drown thelawyers < 1424587952 881463 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1424587953 371180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie btw the wiki bridge isn't working either hth < 1424587953 517530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1424588033 299447 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424588143 254114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote cpressey, Agda is a function that maps cabal install to an electric heater < 1424588156 120971 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1233) cpressey, Agda is a function that maps cabal install to an electric heater < 1424588191 195270 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424588319 242761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it is? < 1424588346 297961 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.85.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424588503 609757 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alpdnqqwgrxiaryy PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Haskell would steal Agda's operator syntax. If then else is so nice there. < 1424590966 612664 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424591845 339914 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1424593782 35982 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1424593929 436146 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now testing to see if killing merchants over and over has any consequences < 1424594106 175367 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have started a new game, and built the depot in an area designed so I can flood it whenever I want < 1424595410 697465 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1424599338 812156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424600211 953757 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424600226 660068 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote my first Agda program! < 1424600234 139744 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I typed it in from a book < 1424600251 824075 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like the 80's < 1424600463 724001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1424600537 529701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1424600564 75359 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1424600594 508319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god daneb < 1424600600 995675 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I am an esowiki sysop I think, so if someone wants to bug me to slap a green checkmark on the Underload page and put an abstract on the front page,... do that < 1424600622 237476 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard can it be < 1424600696 865052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Famous last words < 1424600728 252238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1424600745 336199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey's, that is. < 1424600747 595142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1424600798 191496 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION must've missed something < 1424600850 722185 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1424601020 63518 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, oh, "famous last words", right, right < 1424601027 318608 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is mediawiki we're talking about < 1424602349 995251 :kapil___!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdvaxwsuvkqcvtel QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1424602907 806079 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I did consider prime numbers, but, y'know... PRIMES is in P. can't be too careful. < 1424602949 840325 :cpressey!~cpressey@host86-187-141-235.range86-187.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1424605191 502801 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1424605237 280751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does that thing have such a ridiculous number of underscores in it. < 1424605248 916552 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424605271 47147 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1424605401 553577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the wiki bridge. Blah. I'll try to remember to fix that, though it would be easier with proper internet. < 1424606404 573589 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1424606434 515765 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1424607385 239608 :kapil___!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snuulmbbwrmdpzwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1424608680 847041 :chaosagent!~quassel@98.210.97.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424610408 933285 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1424611889 938971 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzt.org/ < 1424612249 122397 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jzt.xyz/worlds/village-of-jzt < 1424613259 926256 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1424613459 648273 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1424613586 949138 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1424614017 967176 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: helliott. CAO is down :( < 1424614163 227670 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir QUIT :Quit: brb < 1424614340 730128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: play on cdo or cszo or whatever? < 1424614346 216502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like fifty servers these days aren't there < 1424614641 343572 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't feel right, but I'm on CDO. < 1424614753 207878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdo has always been the cool server < 1424614768 126522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :such hugeterm :( < 1424614784 442140 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me dehuge my term. < 1424614873 994283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea whaty ou do when you do that but it definitely doesn't make your terminal any smaller :P it's fine though I can just make my font tiny < 1424615012 818816 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put in 80x24 for the max width and height? < 1424615029 121157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can tell there's more than 80 columns and 24 rows to your terminal right now, right >.> < 1424615036 641143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's 213x57 :p < 1424615049 190972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine though I just made my font smaller and now it fits on my screen < 1424615064 678753 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah. it goes with the terminal size. makes sense. tdh < 1424615077 493704 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my terminal to be full screen :D < 1424615173 662003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could "stty cols 80 rows 24" before running ssh I guess but that'd lead to a hell of a lot of wasted space < 1424615320 761097 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. got anted. < 1424615332 75883 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is hungry and should go breakfast... < 1424615369 554400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1424615597 273087 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jkdbifcvisfmpeca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1424615706 152029 :heroux!visionviru@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dcymluvkluukbvnb JOIN :#esoteric < 1424615817 486973 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1424616149 998182 :kapil___!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-snuulmbbwrmdpzwa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1424617997 340805 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1424618638 9499 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1424618639 443802 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :*.net *.split < 1424618645 191129 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1424618645 343797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Quit: brb < 1424618741 8383 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1424618886 403200 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what program could i use on linux to measure/grapha processes memory use? < 1424618896 340215 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424618914 257735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1424618985 343701 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: breakfasting is dangerous here. a haircut happened. < 1424619004 876607 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: vanelloa. ksysguard perhaps? < 1424620795 314739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424620922 213511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424621026 289087 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424621775 993904 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1424622253 561132 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424622400 90153 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424622648 684058 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424623457 801641 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tic-tac-toe < 1424623457 948251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a nice game of chess? < 1424623597 112681 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424623597 298478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang < 1424623980 340788 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1424624382 926750 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424624430 246609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424624436 349712 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424624541 489515 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1424624554 666689 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1424625207 123151 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh? < 1424625207 270169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1424625467 56957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help fresh < 1424625467 241956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh provides: freshname < 1424625470 21619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help freshname < 1424625470 167889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :freshname. Return a unique Haskell project name. < 1424625524 796250 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts out with "Ha" and adds some random letter. VERY useful. < 1424625534 577854 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424625534 724675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanh < 1424625543 312564 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it counts up < 1424625549 84734 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its generating a fresh symbol < 1424625559 899142 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @pl @fresh < 1424625560 46047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "fresh" < 1424625567 784464 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424625567 930968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hani < 1424625682 924444 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: ah. < 1424625959 611618 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program has a new bug < 1424625968 748568 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is segfaulting before it even reaches line 1 < 1424625976 855270 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what is going on ! < 1424626068 249623 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i even debug this. < 1424626291 880919 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: which language? < 1424626293 769691 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424626293 916161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanj < 1424626298 82342 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424626298 228862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hank < 1424626321 143712 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1424626412 545431 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what #includes do you have? any esoteric, anormal, unusual or experimental libraries? < 1424626712 552881 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing really crazy < 1424626717 466140 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was working a second ago < 1424626720 463946 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we just changed one function < 1424626723 169940 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :im totally stumped < 1424626945 903367 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what function? < 1424626956 776803 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :main < 1424626963 782743 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did you include some .h that you wrote yourself? < 1424626981 735343 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1424626987 721985 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which you changed less than a second ago? < 1424627424 294153 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really fascinating a weird way < 1424627432 471567 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i get to the bottom of it, but i really have no idea how < 1424627441 852707 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at the assembly code for the prelude of main but i cant understand it < 1424627610 897189 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: can you show us what you changed in the .h ? < 1424627809 368946 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt change any headers < 1424628015 261089 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you put a putstr as the very first line of the main it's not printed out? < 1424628022 75243 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah! < 1424628025 525685 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats whats so crazy < 1424628031 428268 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a printf("\n"); < 1424628032 417639 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shouldn't be possible < 1424628060 412029 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't omit the \n to flush the output) < 1424628153 335933 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424630133 562909 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424630143 926336 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, EXPBLARGL fails < 1424630152 497333 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1424630168 105957 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it's theoretically impossible cpressey - maybe focus on proving that rather than making a language? < 1424630173 207262 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler can always artificially extend the program by adding e.g. +- to the front of it, then it knows there's a shorter program < 1424630208 595447 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it's not theoretically impossible, because int-e < 1424630236 765209 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn brainfuck program into integer, program is ackermann of that integer < 1424630415 738605 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has sort of raising an interesting conjecture, which is < 1424630443 572161 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the mapping from TM's to language X programs is complex, running programs in language X will also be complex < 1424630490 25291 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds perfectly intuitive, but -- no idea how one would go about proving it < 1424630511 697571 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things I have failed at this weekend: Agda < 1424630522 743591 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I agree about the 'if mapping, then running' thing < 1424630533 929241 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I realized from the idea of encrypted source code < 1424631972 197706 :TieSleep!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1424632348 703918 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: RELATIVE CHICKEN < 1424632487 537201 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe EXPBLARGL could force to try all the permutations of the program -- wouldn't work well with brainfuck because +- = -+ ... but maybe some other language < 1424632566 248358 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, i think you could still inject some kind of "identity" instruction, then you know there's another permutation that also works < 1424632570 542154 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1424632578 15836 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll keep banging my head against agda < 1424632599 255035 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could help with agda maybe? < 1424632604 481729 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used it ages ago < 1424632707 816292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: did you ever figure out the Burro/Cabra type things < 1424632731 563606 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxRjp4LVuo4 < 1424632732 53228 :bluckbot!~k@162.243.245.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,0You0,4Tube 「2title: Amor incondicional entre un burro y una cabra」 「2uploaded by: Univision Noticias」 「2duration: 00:01:21」 「2views: 6413」 「2likes: 67」 「2dislikes: 0」 < 1424632754 875564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1424632758 858434 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1424632759 362155 NAMES :#esoteric < 1424632760 313505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric bluckbot :bluckbot < 1424632766 13392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do I blame < 1424632781 243130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-02-17.log:07:08:01 oerjan kick bluckbot < 1424632782 580049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. happily < 1424632783 690778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1424632783 716748 NAMES :#esoteric < 1424632801 214689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one garish YouTube logo colour < 1424632818 335573 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unconditional love between a donkey and a goat < 1424632821 620544 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :translation < 1424633103 117251 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: define "type things" < 1424633109 887596 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burro is ok, Cabra is silly < 1424633117 922141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stronger algebraic structures < 1424633127 962099 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, like rings? Ha ha no. < 1424633160 819950 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, and elsewhere, I basically ran up against "imaginary functions" and gave up < 1424633188 607271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was something about being able to do gcd on programs < 1424633192 585832 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been meaning to add I/O to Burro and to rewrite the docs, but < 1424633203 189577 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a... what's it called < 1424633209 251116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what kinda imaginary functions < 1424633215 102711 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euclidean domain? < 1424633221 896356 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can take the derivative of a lambda term < 1424633232 308440 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a new paper about it, it's silly but neat < 1424633250 190142 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Imaginary_function < 1424633321 361635 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: given the awesome power of taking a derivative of a CFG, I dunno, this could all be very wild < 1424633419 523922 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really can't even get near rings, I don't know how one would get up to integral domains and such < 1424633451 328234 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424633464 125156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tempt me < 1424633473 443374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: do you have a link to that paper? < 1424633502 350524 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424633511 405906 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.informatik.uni-marburg.de/~pgiarrusso/papers/pldi14-ilc-author-final.pdf < 1424633520 694885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: with imaginary functions: isn't it simple enough to just to add thunk(F) where F is a function to your primitive values < 1424633525 998550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have apply send thunk(F) to F < 1424633526 864458 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get some good results speeding up code with it < 1424633530 584782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exciting, but it seems to meet your spec just fine < 1424633549 517583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: thanks < 1424633549 702033 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :applied to pure lambda calculus, it has no effect < 1424633560 276185 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its' only when you make special primitives with differentiation support < 1424633564 230409 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to spoil the ending < 1424633642 919373 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe. < 1424633684 489625 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's occurred to me but i got too sick of it to follow up on it < 1424633713 683877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in data Expr = ... | Thunk Expr | Apply Expr | ...; data Value = ... | NativeFn (Value -> Value) | Closure Env Args Expr | ThunkV Value | ...; ... eval (Apply e) = apply (eval e); eval (Thunk e) = thunk (eval e); ...; apply (ThunkV v) = v; ... thunk v | isFun v = ThunkV v | otherwise = undefined or whatever < 1424633721 52529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sorta like adding an axiom < 1424633725 583143 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you'd have a type constructor Thunk x and (apply Thunk x = x) but apply (a-real-function-value) would actually apply it < 1424633731 19009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1424633762 238510 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr thinking there was some little bumpy inconsistency. but if there isn't < 1424633764 100442 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1424633809 710230 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe you could invert things, or at least pretend to, to cover "for every X there is a -X" type axioms in algebraic structures < 1424633817 984449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get back into esolangs. < 1424633825 277972 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably not. < 1424633844 722527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you have, like < 1424633882 379267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Unit : Set where tt : Unit; apply : forall {A} -> (Unit -> A) -> A; apply f = f tt < 1424633885 337455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Agda say < 1424633888 482712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can write < 1424633898 609887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1424633903 676758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1424633911 847515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, er < 1424633913 522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind me < 1424633930 789812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably best not to think about this kind of thing in a setting with types < 1424634038 424354 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wrap my head around Agda. writing a function and writing a proof are seperate things in my head, and it wants me to moosh them together < 1424634073 466507 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write my theorem as....... a type? Of a function? Then write the proof as the body of the function? < 1424634094 336559 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof : Theorem < 1424634115 759639 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :values are proofs and types are propositions < 1424634127 3473 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda is used to prove implication < 1424634179 709212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging dr. curry-howard < 1424634269 254308 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here are two very simple propositions, the < 1424634269 418112 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true proposition and the false proposition: < 1424634269 564621 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data < 1424634269 564779 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :False : Set where < 1424634269 564874 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :record True : Set where < 1424634271 757641 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial : True < 1424634274 610318 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial = _ < 1424634283 559490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1424634286 391238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one awkward way to present it < 1424634286 792802 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indent didn't get preserved :( < 1424634290 921831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data False : Set where {} < 1424634296 374304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data True : Set where { true-is-true : True } < 1424634297 34755 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sign that I'm reading maybe not the best paper, huh < 1424634300 690496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be clearer than that record silliness < 1424634311 371553 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah elliott s way is much nicer < 1424634314 172679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1424634317 892262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are reasons to use the record one For Real < 1424634322 13510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get judgemental eta < 1424634327 302572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not exactly great pedagogically < 1424634366 122046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds scary < 1424634370 197286 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so in the above, "False" is not a value, it's a proposition. < 1424634388 642264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a value < 1424634392 481275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because types are values) < 1424634392 961312 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellll... it's a type but types are values.... < 1424634395 439858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :False : Set < 1424634410 515551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of haskell where all the levels are collapsed < 1424634423 466846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of values having types which have kinds it's just values have types (which are values) < 1424634436 935662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but not just any values! they have to be type-typed values. I'm helping < 1424634452 790739 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm helping" is the new "hth" < 1424634469 33231 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good thing to try is proving thinsg with lambda < 1424634473 33351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do, like, helping : if true then Nat else Bool < 1424634483 913256 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :not geetting data types involved first < 1424634485 386270 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1424634497 587298 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for example, < 1424634507 934646 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :theorem1 : (P : Set) -> (Q : Set) -> P -> Q -> P < 1424634512 736384 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got as far as defining the Peano numbers < 1424634518 398151 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :P implies Q implies P < 1424634538 659534 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theorem2 : (P : Set) -> (Q : Set) -> P -> (P -> Q) -> Q < 1424634552 254870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theorem1 : forall {P Q} -> P -> Q -> P would be even better for avoiding thinking about types < 1424634578 591373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there libraries for these things? < 1424634586 68819 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up < 1424634596 168528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: if it helps at all for understanding how to write proofs as lambda terms: you use modus ponens by application < 1424634600 890304 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad i helped! < 1424634615 679631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prove Q from (P -> Q) and P, let's say we have proofs p-implies-q : P -> Q and p : P < 1424634621 367979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we have the proof p-implies-q p : Q < 1424634643 271538 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up < 1424634656 452014 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alpdnqqwgrxiaryy QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634656 599533 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sokqvjzqxwavfmeg QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634656 842814 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcsdpjcymirqajzu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634673 887564 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a type signature (that is to say, proposition (that is to say, theorem)) for a function called theorem1, above. < 1424634685 629405 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634687 356457 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go with elliott's version < 1424634696 739876 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :no use my one < 1424634704 413697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1424634706 979561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no use mine < 1424634711 44772 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1424634713 94299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :use elliot's < 1424634715 960188 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it they're NOT that different < 1424634726 761548 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one has explicit types passed to it, is all < 1424634729 839233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are the same logically < 1424634738 158775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah in one of them the set arguments are implicit < 1424634743 424208 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634754 474897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is more natural if you're thinking of them as foralls < 1424634757 210822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from logic < 1424634760 301017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imo) < 1424634772 662119 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634805 216742 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you implement it, and why? theorem1 p q -> p ? that makes no sense < 1424634820 76337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theorem1 p q = p < 1424634822 506431 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, there should be a = in there < 1424634828 931801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: think of it like < 1424634830 592558 :merdach!~k@2610:10:20:978::198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424634836 174408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p : P, q : Q |- P < 1424634854 23455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (p :)s giving labels to the proofs < 1424634905 171364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we have a proof p of P and a proof q of Q, then we can prove P with p < 1424634908 797781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theorem1 p q = p < 1424634955 214875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if we have a proof x of P -> Q and a proof y of P, then we can prove Q with modus ponens on x and y; theorem2 : forall {P Q} -> (P -> Q) -> P -> Q; theorem2 x y = x y) < 1424634988 848970 :merdach!~k@2610:10:20:978::198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424634992 855830 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424634998 267274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like deducing P, Q |- P except you label everything in the context < 1424635020 813415 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was trying to leave theorem1 and theorem2 undefedin so cpressey could use them for practice < 1424635035 801535 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635055 351691 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how you "practice" that < 1424635059 994824 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znpmfiiktuxzwqfx JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635063 843264 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635066 653251 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hopeless, folks. < 1424635079 366645 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, i tried. < 1424635086 433831 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejfaxffomcfveuvl JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635117 750219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just think of "theorem1 p q" as syntax for "by theorem1, using p and q as the assumptions P and Q", so that's giving a definition for how the proof works < 1424635149 367773 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1424635165 521354 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked up 'learn you an agda' it seems way more difficult than things need to be < 1424635179 656579 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: well, it's only 2 pages, and the 2nd one is under construction < 1424635181 116605 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 2011 < 1424635183 637587 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can ignore it < 1424635187 83224 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write a much simpler tutoral < 1424635191 690549 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is easier to learn from < 1424635224 968992 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem, one problem, is that modus ponens has a conjunction in it, doesn't it? if p -> q, and if p, then q < 1424635238 727341 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there are too many "ifs" in my description but < 1424635245 716103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yes it's using currying < 1424635251 644932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if p -> q, then if p, then q" < 1424635264 779111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use conjunction if you want though < 1424635267 815602 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtqnacotoazodhrk QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424635272 334146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that involves data types :P < 1424635280 10927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of propositional logic with just -> as the connector < 1424635300 393376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the metalogical deduction rule "if you have a proof of (P -> Q) and you have a proof of P, then you have a proof of Q" < 1424635331 502834 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635337 59392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have that rule in agda, and we write it syntactically by putting the proof of (P -> Q) and the proof of P adjacent: proof-of-imp proof-of-P is a proof of Q < 1424635339 909551 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635344 874791 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wtrcdhvqtsnhygyh JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635457 625157 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if f : P -> Q (f is a proof that P implies Q) < 1424635463 122811 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and x : P (x proves P) < 1424635471 998666 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :then f x : Q (f of x proves Q) < 1424635546 487008 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycmayyspsocptts JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635551 261144 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to look for a different proof system. this one sucks. < 1424635558 686828 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :try Coq ! < 1424635561 236940 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better < 1424635568 901073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1424635570 56173 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you still want dependent types < 1424635587 736975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and then he gets to learn "match" < 1424635612 415554 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nightmare! < 1424635664 901779 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424635766 627323 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424635794 860397 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://at.metamath.org/index.html < 1424635796 378326 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT < 1424636347 466224 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rainbow colouring and serif font do kind of scream "1999", i admit < 1424636408 10053 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycmayyspsocptts QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1424636692 903185 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1424637019 775572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck reading metamath proofs in their source form < 1424637264 842531 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like forth with lots of $'s < 1424637402 940896 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION screams < 1424637453 196116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading proofs and the typesetter "corrected" "well-founded" to "well founded". < 1424637488 964663 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so now we have a well founded relation. great.) < 1424637690 553554 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a horror story once about a publisher "correcting" "homeomorphism" to "homomorphism" (in a paper which also contained instances of "homomorphism") < 1424637709 194457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424637777 970142 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs and tries the other paper, the one that doesn't define True as a record type < 1424637859 672282 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a record type? Why? < 1424637864 265533 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another ... fun ... thing is that we use \mathsf{} in our paper. The computer modern scripts all have the same x-height and work well together. With the publisher's font the sans-serif characters look *big*) < 1424637867 231932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would one define True with a record type? < 1424637915 905095 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm more upset about having to go through everything word by word because I expect some more nasty surprises. < 1424637930 514260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least we have no homeomorphisms.) < 1424638031 761511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also changed non-variable (meaning: not a variable) to nonvariable. Isn't that great... < 1424638064 922754 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: to avoid elliott 's true-is-true thing, see above < 1424638166 50135 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do hope it's a well founded nonvariable < 1424638425 123626 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSleep < 1424638724 373916 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this is the same paper < 1424638940 515244 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xionidkxrigmfcwc JOIN :#esoteric < 1424638992 605799 :TieSleep!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424639167 595359 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I'll look in the logs < 1424639430 604307 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424639432 831757 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oho http://oxij.org/note/BrutalDepTypes/ < 1424639760 289092 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Like The Name ;D < 1424639788 260113 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, i like it < 1424639828 696550 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much clearer descriptions of some things < 1424639898 604336 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424639917 602604 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424640280 188851 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1424641063 820576 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugs me that -> is more like punctuation than a function constructor in this thing < 1424641377 871521 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :X -> Y could be thought of a syntactic sugar for (_ : X) -> Y < 1424641380 65634 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1424641382 314374 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1424641543 514509 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there's no way. i'm too old for this. < 1424641989 457879 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although it would be really cool to use metamath to prove properties of functions *starting from ZFC* < 1424642019 734094 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the obvious thing for me to do is write my own proof-checking language instead < 1424642028 147342 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds fun! < 1424642376 179795 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424642412 464230 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, strangely, easier than learning Agda. < 1424642541 736346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't think it'd be easy, but then, if you want to create a new esolang, I won't stop you in this channel. < 1424643159 159635 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh, i have had some ideas about one for a long time, but never went as far as implementing them. also, nb: proof-checker, not theorem-prover < 1424643401 579373 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a checker for metamath in 300-odd lines of Python, so it can't be ridiculously hard. < 1424644114 585743 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.55.127.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424644453 346981 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424644522 441692 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I ask for my messages again? < 1424644536 783760 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that. Thanks. < 1424644728 363798 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fresh < 1424644728 510784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haok < 1424644751 541884 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massage-loud < 1424644751 688380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1424644810 967746 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how to record a message for someone? < 1424644854 348134 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AndoDaan like this < 1424644854 494768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1424644890 144494 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grand. Thanks. I wish I had a better memory. Or more discipline to keep a cheat-sheet. < 1424644965 588367 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424644977 594861 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman I actually took a look at the p section of FMNSSun a few days ago. And I'm thinking p~ still might be a little too complex for me atm. < 1424644977 742125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1424645147 576876 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1424646069 377302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiki gateway should be up now. < 1424646317 582834 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424646719 85359 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1424646869 639738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that puts esowiki edit info on the channel. < 1424646893 66310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the [wiki] things. < 1424646922 351144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was allegedly down.) < 1424646949 619285 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, thought it was something new < 1424647191 677244 :arjanb!8259ab0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.12 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1424647302 510694 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424647439 934093 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424647636 493312 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1424647711 305235 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424647718 383214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424647720 589617 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1424647896 517593 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric