< 1424218027 216199 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascinating. < 1424218062 114613 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda want toplay minesweeper now. < 1424218081 527766 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And lookfor ways to cheat. < 1424218407 552182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most infamous is the Dreamboard < 1424218432 898975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 3.1 Minesweeper has only a limited number of possible boards < 1424218440 328332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is the easiest, and many players memorized it < 1424218454 692014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's huge debate about whether Dreamboard records count < 1424218470 225154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem being a) did they just reset until they got the Dreamboard; b) did they recognise it after a couple of moves < 1424218703 854583 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Seems like arguing that trying to go forthe record invalidates the attempt. < 1424218705 455425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which of those count < 1424218730 239138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is, btw: http://www.minesweeper.info/wiki/images/b/b3/Dreamboard-10-MattMcGinley-270601.jpg < 1424218805 214475 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dreams of it is not immediately obvious to me. < 1424218817 500365 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't played in years. < 1424218845 96956 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edge bombs? < 1424218853 413885 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, more of them? < 1424218860 945925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's that all the mines are concentrated together, and you have islands of wide open areas, and islands of miens < 1424218862 470985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mines < 1424218869 562561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that solving the level requires fewer clicks than normal < 1424218881 253973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is obviously desirable for a world record, especially if you have the layout memorized < 1424218952 976655 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. They're looking to just clear the negative space as quickly as possible, ratherthan pinpointing bombms. < 1424218958 830436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1424218962 358818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's the win condition < 1424219003 952349 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1424219009 898571 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it now. Near three vast expances. < 1424219020 672554 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exspances. < 1424219042 249759 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, Idk how to expand on my spelling of 'expand'. < 1424219104 139472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"expanses" is the correct spelling, I think < 1424219114 534180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, my spellchecker likes it < 1424219129 841715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ex-pants < 1424219448 35444 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. The spellcheck underline things is near invisible in HexChat. < 1424219452 238570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minesweeper is np-complete, right? or was it pspace-complete? < 1424219460 838948 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np complete. < 1424219478 511169 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that vaguely. < 1424219494 403969 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :np-complete? < 1424219496 5538 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1424219521 597696 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking if I was misremembering if it was turing complete or np complete. < 1424219530 614278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be TC, it's only finitely large < 1424219544 930560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, it can't be above NP because all moves are irreversible < 1424219569 350281 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instantly evident to those who are not me. :) < 1424219569 555737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that the number of moves is polynomial-time < 1424219577 657378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, put it this way < 1424219636 879546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a potential solution to a Minesweeper board < 1424219653 172799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can check whether it's genuine simply by counting the number of mines around each number < 1424219669 313104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means that minesweeper is at most NP < 1424219688 254873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving that it's actually NP-complete is harder, ofc < 1424219729 753181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: "NP-complete" is a little awkward to define, but intuitively, it means that given any puzzle for which a solution can be checked for correctness in polynomial time, there's some Minesweeper board that's equivalent to that puzzle < 1424219733 493506 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was proof by equating it to an already established np complete problem. < 1424219754 822968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP-completeness and PSPACE-completeness are two common ways to translate the notion of Turing-completeness down to finite programs < 1424219762 944648 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's even more vaguely remembered. I'm gonna look it up. < 1424219984 731126 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reduced from 3SAT, apparently. < 1424220022 427037 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424220024 635304 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1424220178 106628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people always use 3SAT, or nearly so < 1424220204 132545 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424220207 64090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although when I proved the generalized RNG-reversing problem NP-complete, I used the subset sum problem < 1424220219 304641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*LCRNG-reversing < 1424220272 562937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should use planar 3-coloring more < 1424220281 866077 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1424220364 909649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't translate too well to different genres of problem, I guess < 1424220386 674593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason that we show languages TC by implementing BCT or Brainfuck or Fractran, rather than INTERCAL < 1424220468 819368 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on lengthening the esointerpreter chain a bit, and that fact is really annoying. < 1424220493 699047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should work more on underlambda < 1424220507 715527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might make esointerpreters obsolete, at least for the TC languages < 1424220522 255709 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nearly got a kipple to MNNBFSL interpreter, but behind kipple it's OOP ork. < 1424221003 869040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me, or is Pig a really awful language? < 1424221122 998086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41929&oldid=41916 5* 03203.99.128.1 5* (+43) 10/* Instructions */ < 1424221188 418767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41930&oldid=41929 5* 03203.99.128.1 5* (+16) 10/* Instructions */ < 1424221306 893610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41931&oldid=41930 5* 03203.99.128.1 5* (+122) 10/* Instructions */ < 1424221332 611010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41932&oldid=41931 5* 03Ais523 5* (-5) 10/* Instructions */ fix typo < 1424221473 638638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41933&oldid=41932 5* 03203.99.128.1 5* (+71) 10/* Instructions */ < 1424221736 265951 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424221763 77155 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1424222388 121748 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424222434 479006 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.233 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1424222767 459332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424224220 266228 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424225338 121909 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424226307 295625 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424226411 817903 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1424226826 351780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ACROBATIC CHICKEN < 1424227607 913163 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1424227713 469062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: now I'm curious as to what your solution to "utf8 to unicode" on anagolf was < 1424227723 517537 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*echm* < 1424227723 764873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ran faster than mine, so maybe it's not loading libraries? < 1424227723 993873 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :id < 1424227750 840211 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424227785 227181 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1424227841 175279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the annoying thing there is that it would be trivial to write if only we could set command-line options, but we can't (the #!perl trick doesn't work for Unicodiness) < 1424228134 986520 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424228563 58695 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm < 1424229367 991829 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I should create an "esoteric programming language" that's just an NP-complete problem. < 1424229400 918879 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should delete the internet < 1424229546 610605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be difficult, and a huge amount of valuable information would be lost < 1424229549 183973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd recommend against it < 1424229663 696500 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDOS the internets biggest servers < 1424229675 603696 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And saturate them so they can't defend? < 1424229681 271269 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that do it < 1424229687 498987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDOSing works less well on large servers than small servers < 1424229696 513238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reasons that should be obvious if you think about it < 1424229703 76507 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes a DDOS machine < 1424229712 419944 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the owners of some of them tend to have huge budgets. < 1424229726 547146 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddos's from the moon < 1424229738 168624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you any idea how little bandwidth there is on the Moon? < 1424229750 515620 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very little < 1424229751 744598 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, I imagine if your DDOS was enough of a threat Google could actually afford a gun DOS on your DDOS operation. < 1424229776 19268 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a gun dos again < 1424229781 882392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is a communications satellite network around Mars, though; I don't know how much bandwidth it has for connecting with Earth) < 1424229784 582223 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where they shoot you. < 1424229790 525155 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1424229799 813588 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comes back as a ghost < 1424229823 863927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Google would need assassinations to stop a DDOS < 1424229828 330608 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to haunt Google servers with large ammounts of lag < 1424229828 588478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the right way to think about it is < 1424229844 896332 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but if that's what it would take *they probably could*. < 1424229848 964715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google gets a huge number of Internet connections /anyway/ < 1424229859 82790 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google would just reroute the internet around your attack < 1424229860 40632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, take Facebook < 1424229864 49433 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, Google is practically running under a massive DDOS anyways. < 1424229878 126123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting hammered by a large proportion of human Internet users at any given time < 1424229878 310153 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't I just burn the buildings holding Google servers down < 1424229880 903671 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What most sites call "a DDOS" Google calls "Tuesday". < 1424229888 853704 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do own a killer robot company now, so they could plausibly assassinate you if they wanted to < 1424229899 114949 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol well < 1424229913 935536 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you go about ddosing the internet < 1424229916 462113 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory < 1424229918 401317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't < 1424229934 805559 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^10^100 packets p/sec < 1424229964 856697 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's enough electrons for that. < 1424230016 855008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically you could use the same electrons for each packet < 1424230020 215150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The root zone servers don't actually see much traffic due to caching, right? < 1424230024 757158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just shove them through the wires really fast < 1424230037 261548 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster than light < 1424230037 876035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yep, pretty much everyone knows where, say, the .com servers are anyway < 1424230042 814025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they don't have to ask < 1424230057 225415 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.onion < 1424230058 621085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably seeing a bit more traffic now with all the weird suffixes ICANN opened up in their recent cash grab < 1424230059 499138 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on the other hand, DDOSing them might not be helpful for the same exact reason < 1424230061 349194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not that much < 1424230071 821765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDOS .com nses? < 1424230073 159135 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the root zone servers are actually done pretty bizarrely as well... < 1424230089 912632 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several hosts that share IP addresses, relying on how DNS is stateless. < 1424230131 177216 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's gotta be a theoretical maximum to how much information you can send through a wire. < 1424230152 609958 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nominally only, like, 6 root zone servers, but there's a few dozen servers that actually host the root zone. < 1424230193 45823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than 6 < 1424230198 308561 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, 13. < 1424230202 19733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're named after letters of the alphabet, so it has to be 26 or less < 1424230209 986380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure there's more than 6 < 1424230212 284704 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :China is apparently ddosing Canada atm < 1424230221 970580 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 13. < 1424230223 602045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the Internet doesn't work like that < 1424230241 208546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you mean is that some people in China are attempting to DDOS various targets within Canada, presumably with varying levels of success < 1424230246 964517 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be possible for a country to totally disconnect another country < 1424230250 55530 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all but 3 of them are nominally located in the US. < 1424230253 618599 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424230254 689293 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google could possibly DDOS an entire country < 1424230258 298537 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think China could pull the plug on NK? < 1424230259 763173 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1424230262 697523 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not DDOS < 1424230270 624778 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pets sgeo
< 1424230274 341833 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1424230292 4344 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet warfare would be scary < 1424230300 810041 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But safer maybe < 1424230303 292062 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait < 1424230313 917734 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zefphex: some country accidentally blocked YouTube for much of the Internet < 1424230317 109632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I assume there are internet connections directly between north korea and south korea < 1424230317 255927 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again not a DDOS < 1424230318 938475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure < 1424230322 715351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that was a DNS blackholing < 1424230342 364184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you claim to offer a shorter path to the site people are looking for, then discard the traffic < 1424230342 856864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conclusion: The best way to attack the Internet is probably not DDOS < 1424230354 758490 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuke Google HQ < 1424230363 568428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only works because of other ASes trusting your routes, though < 1424230365 834806 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably, but it's also probably a pretty lightweight link. < 1424230374 644694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do that sort of thing too often, they stop trusting them < 1424230379 5616 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuke the underwater cables! < 1424230394 704696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'd like to point out that the entire original purpose of the Internet was to survive nuclear attack < 1424230415 263850 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does splitting in two temporarily count as surviving? < 1424230437 626257 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1424230450 91772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then it's connected enough that splitting it in two is unlikely < 1424230489 86996 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a big country internet usage wise say Europe would take on US servers who would win? < 1424230517 572412 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also who wants to buy a copy of cs6 < 1424230542 438024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like a country magically owns all the internet connections inside it < 1424230556 135312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also europe isn't a country < 1424230561 926303 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to say. It's not entirely meaningful to even speak of "a country's servers" really... Things are sufficiently international these days that damage to most any country, hurts most all countries. < 1424230596 764461 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we just all vote < 1424230603 278767 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, if China goes down the US is *hosed*. < 1424230604 47915 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to destroy humanity < 1424230618 92417 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like just destroy it all < 1424230632 285563 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a big fuck up for nature to have made humans < 1424230660 5515 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vhemt.org/ ? < 1424230661 997385 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All humans have a large potential to be evil and destroy < 1424230687 616511 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: My linking does not imply that I endorse the views expressed therein) < 1424230697 150336 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some painless way of vaporising every human on earth < 1424230795 730350 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... antimater? < 1424230886 784140 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm down for dat < 1424230910 117655 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets all mate with our anti-selves < 1424231100 823399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting increasingly offtopic < 1424231103 199234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also really depressing < 1424231119 136889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be completely out of line for me to kick you, as you haven't really done anything wrong < 1424231124 377402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm tired and irritable right now < 1424231254 568047 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424231355 109578 :arjanb!8259aa19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.25 QUIT :Quit: . < 1424231431 396739 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424231558 666708 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424231570 719657 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424231860 921300 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1424231908 561717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zemhill_ < 1424231934 912667 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424232026 33764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SickPig14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41934 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+490) 10Created page with "SickPig is similar to the language [[Pig]], but it simulates a pig that is sick. ==Usage== SickPig follows the same syntax rules as [[Pig]]. You write the name of the text fil..." < 1424232036 108127 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1424232051 904462 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1424232072 259666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SickPig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41935&oldid=41934 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+7) 10 < 1424232083 852502 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424232141 352914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41936&oldid=41927 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (-10) 10 < 1424232218 4802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41937&oldid=41924 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+59) 10 < 1424232355 840935 :zemhill___!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1424232621 47137 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1424232680 199809 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, imagine that a north-south–oriented ice skater, in orbit over the equator of a black hole and rotationally at rest with respect to the stars, extends her arms." < 1424232764 601172 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424232791 870626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is north and south with respect to the poles of the black hole? < 1424232796 385704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does she figure out where they are? < 1424232839 575960 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zefphex: "ddos's from the moon" is almost literally the plot of a book i'm trying to write < 1424232870 526226 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is actually a phsycic < 1424232918 580063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the moon is a harsh mistress has already been written hth < 1424233013 975232 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it's a kerr newman black hole and she has a magnemometer? < 1424233182 501870 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424233184 49540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought they just threw rocks in that book < 1424233208 167373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and how could _your_ version not be lame in comparison, i'm saying < 1424233234 179927 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, black holes can possess angular momentum. < 1424233240 499197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also charge < 1424233320 232636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41938&oldid=41937 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+0) 10 < 1424233335 452017 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a real word for a magnemometer? < 1424233364 932243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what it means < 1424233399 345287 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that measures strength and direction of th magnetic field < 1424233441 466901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case merely replace the second m by a t hth < 1424233443 651585 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424233451 556245 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1424233488 358782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :greek: fiendish, logical, or both? < 1424233513 813908 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately i;ve been having a problem with my laptop screen where it starts going white, until I hit it. < 1424233558 174301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to respect that your laptop has a different color identity. < 1424233597 863861 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424233701 163829 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a connector loose inside, otherwise how would hitting it help? < 1424233832 396316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DeadPig14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41939 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+394) 10Created page with "DeadPig is a version of the language [[Pig]], where the pig has obviously died. ==Usage== DeadPig uses the same syntax rules as [[Pig]], where you write the title of the text ..." < 1424233837 526792 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go get it fixed < 1424233848 366219 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its has a display problem < 1424233854 233240 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424233856 700704 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you drop it somewhere < 1424233913 401868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41940&oldid=41938 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+58) 10 < 1424234131 416894 :Zefphex!~Eolus@74.61.60.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1424234174 657862 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zefphex: Not that I know of. It's not worth fixing, given that the machine cost CA$200. I'll just buy a new one if this happens too often. < 1424234365 673531 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424234399 361883 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424234419 734222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this rate we're going to need Category:حَرَام < 1424234675 830908 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424234759 946269 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424234899 726542 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 hours of thirst coming up :( < 1424234945 713468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a medical procedure < 1424234967 2750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterectomy < 1424234979 607309 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424235151 521050 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just sleep through thirst? < 1424235173 73474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends how tired you are < 1424235189 423957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not tired at all, I slept through do-not-need-to-deprive-myself-of-food-and-water time < 1424235226 326043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you wake up just when it was too late to eat and drink tdnh < 1424235234 618313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I manage 11 hours without water frequently, even when awake < 1424235251 242477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only place to get bottles of water at 4:54 AM charges £1.40 for them, which is really excessive < 1424235255 459295 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, and drinking water right now during the 6 minutes I have left < 1424235287 476048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't drink before going to bed i tend to have chaffed lips when i awake < 1424235298 440047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared of sedation < 1424235350 163279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: birmingham doesn't have drinkable tap water? < 1424235357 103656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of having a tube stuck down my throat < 1424235361 154804 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1424235377 564119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has excellent tap water, but the problem is finding a mains-connected tap and a container to drink from < 1424235396 676162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit spilled coke on my sweater < 1424235412 505152 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tends to buy bottles of water just for the container
< 1424235421 886326 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At work I buy one a week, not sure if that''s particularly unsanitary < 1424235426 510522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also t-shirt but that was going into the laundry soon anyway < 1424235427 63835 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it an invasive prodecure? < 1424235438 132733 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I may not be the best person to ask for advice on sane behavior < 1424235446 487827 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: are endoscopys considered invasive? < 1424235454 817591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a tube down my throat but I'm not being cut open < 1424235476 301399 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1424235511 46497 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an MRI once, though, and it turns out I didn't actually need to be sedated since I was good at laying still on my own anyway. < 1424235530 471750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so birmingham has a tap shortage? < 1424235535 651800 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I of course found this out after going several hours without eating. < 1424235548 273599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not eating is for sedation? < 1424235557 654185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well taps tend to be confined to residential houses and food preparation areas < 1424235559 641996 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was to not vomit while there's a tube in my throat < 1424235562 802657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i simply cannot imagine anywhere in norway where it's further to a tap than to a shop < 1424235565 762795 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I would imagine they don't want to risk you gagging on the endoscoping camera. < 1424235573 887284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and toilets, which are plentiful, but which I don't really want to drink from < 1424235632 824857 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly that too, but also so the sedatives don't make you release an absolutely gigantic bowel movement as easily. < 1424235709 111116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess _inside_ a shopping center. < 1424235712 572191 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424235734 957113 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 QUIT :Client Quit < 1424235742 47148 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quassel seriously hits a nerve sometimes < 1424235747 550425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses he has no idea where ais523 spends his days
< 1424235773 946933 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to carry cleaning equipment with me to areas with water fountains. < 1424235806 951013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, the shops aren't open at 5am < 1424235820 285993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the massively overpriced water comes from a small vending machine about 10m from here < 1424235823 63545 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there is one gym I'd visit every few years for some reason or another. < 1424235848 509454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the shops are open, I can by a 2 litre bottle of sparkling or still water for 50p, which is much better value < 1424235851 71455 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was a water fountain that has a single distinctive booger hanging on it for most of those several years. < 1424235858 94172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again, the price is mostly for the container, I think) < 1424235858 628713 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No once thouching it, no one cleaning. < 1424235876 554751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's a pity that the ASDA isn't near here: they literally sell bottles of tap water for like 15p < 1424235975 453509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i distinctly recalling having a cup when i was at university. < 1424235996 26154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well more than one. < 1424236013 28342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with the nice math on it broke when i was washing it ): < 1424236014 792698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of my problem is I have nowhere to store things, really < 1424236027 925316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1424236094 896004 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would buy bottles of tap water < 1424236097 981861 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or empty plastic bottles < 1424236108 708587 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1424236154 933974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, I can't exactly carry empty bottles around with me all day < 1424236180 529425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current solution is to buy a lot of water during daytime, and drink it < 1424236183 737515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then not drink water overnight < 1424236292 497073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do much the same with food, actually < 1424236296 961446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm not sure how long it'll keep < 1424236763 248720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Polaris and Omnipotence both require level 5 to be trained in order to even start training level 1. Even if a drunken Dev/GM threw an Omnipotence book at you, you'd never be able to start training it. Same with Polaris." < 1424237229 287699 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424237377 95815 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1424237607 398804 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424237862 621535 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424238361 810995 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424238575 854877 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424238840 371237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DeadPig14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41941 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+487) 10PIGFARMER idea. < 1424239063 914991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DeadPig14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41942&oldid=41941 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+16) 10Noticed SICKPIG.... < 1424239525 444237 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424239607 567924 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424239713 229747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Oolicile < 1424239714 404534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Oolicile: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1424239726 150413 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay < 1424239877 401870 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1424240177 920022 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424240210 227387 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1424240217 571896 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh rainbows. < 1424240267 989134 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1424240281 741307 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even look like a rainbow < 1424240307 3048 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks very dark < 1424240329 717436 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainbows are Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet < 1424240368 308513 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1424240769 551818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oolicile: IRC color codes don't send exact colors < 1424240772 99414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just send suggestions < 1424240779 598334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your client is presumably using dark interpretations of the color codes in it < 1424240871 940216 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424241643 59064 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1424241663 387910 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424241703 860386 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424241821 343427 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424241826 474045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah! now I've reproduced the 27 character solution at http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?utf8+to+unicode < 1424241841 527727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the 30 character solution simply hard-codes the three output numbers in decimal < 1424241847 217225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1424241852 248711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 27-char solution is not cheating < 1424241885 873263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even checks that the input is valid UTF-8 < 1424241906 680729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the function that doesn't check for that and simply sets the "this is UTF-8" flag has a name that's very slightly longe < 1424241908 931819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*longer < 1424242069 825707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the short ruby solution is also non-cheating < 1424242146 556556 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424242147 517936 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night < 1424242917 958220 :Oolicile!~Syntaxflu@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424244652 792234 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1424245133 56893 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1424245449 391317 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: you're an Evillious Chronicles person, right? < 1424245462 374507 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the new song Clockwork Lullaby 7 if there's no lu li la la la? < 1424245517 684546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's there < 1424245596 949216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :four hands and an axe, that elephant guy probably has double strike => http://www.pbfcomics.com/271/ < 1424246846 493211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: this is your second warning (re: "gay") < 1424246854 586340 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o: < 1424246927 68059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think that is Ganesh < 1424246976 91165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: I get the impression you don't much care < 1424246992 784224 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a race to the bottom and it's my first week here < 1424246996 498767 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty terrible < 1424247075 663185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DeadPig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41943&oldid=41942 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (-16) 10Undo revision 41942 by [[Special:Contributions/AndoDaan|AndoDaan]] ([[User talk:AndoDaan|talk]]) < 1424247122 454707 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think future historians might be baffled as to how in the span of one century, "gay" changed meanings three times < 1424247131 559376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean slurs on day 1 already gave me pretty low patience. please don't make the channel shittier < 1424247263 436197 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, maybe not historians. students of history perhaps. In the same way that I am baffled with the causes of the Crimean War < 1424247284 585251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:DeadPig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41944&oldid=41943 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (-487) 10Removing unasked for, and hastily given idea. < 1424247285 566328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much crime < 1424247287 618478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right there in the name < 1424247310 524569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadpig should be pig + deadfish imo < 1424247356 904959 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia: "The immediate cause involved the rights of Christian minorities in the Holy Land, which was controlled by the Ottoman Empire." Me: "So they fought about in Crimea? Lolwut." < 1424247423 316812 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may have made sense at the time, but it doesn't now. < 1424247622 311195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'm only aware of one outdated meaning ("happy", which is pretty innocuous) < 1424247717 718776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1424247891 895271 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the sequence was: bright,happy -> homosexual (slang) -> homosexual (official) -> general pejorative < 1424247958 345489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1424247969 853675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424248072 691180 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The associated press now calls for "gay" over "homosexual" when once the reverse was preferred in proper writing < 1424248303 429092 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And recently < 1424248307 241398 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :defents in armor < 1424248317 749273 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is now a slang for the chinese < 1424248341 511442 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't heard of that colloquialism since what? < 1424248350 341941 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Opium Wars? < 1424248558 176981 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: Well, racists use that word all the time. LAst time I recall hearing it was some hobo in a McDonalds yelling at a Korean family who were conversing in Korean. < 1424248571 972450 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1424248697 208577 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least I know 98% of people are straight < 1424248703 851038 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not deluded in that respect < 1424248799 600221 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toronto has a big problem with homeless and crazy people. < 1424248799 786029 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol that's off by a lot, dude < 1424248873 210099 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck 2010 < 1424248921 918780 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that year? It wasn't that bad a year... < 1424248952 408210 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Census year < 1424248981 145289 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, must be all this "Queering Agriculture" and "Queering Geology and Environmentalism" < 1424248988 848190 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can thank Maryland for that < 1424249100 204605 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way people bring politics into science is a problem, but not a new one. In my father's day there was "Lysenkoism" and "communist science" < 1424249146 81766 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is the information age < 1424249166 675760 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is too much opinion, and not enough fact to dissuade all these new age peddlers < 1424249237 707183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: That has always been the case. Those who print the textbooks and newspapers have the power to mold the perception of reality. < 1424249264 331723 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And business weekly came out with unsurprising figures about the most generous donors to media < 1424249286 153293 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about academia, but the liberalism there is far from classical, neo-, rather < 1424249317 235753 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: but for the first time in history, it is practically free to post your opinion to the entire world. < 1424249358 309165 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit late, but at zero marginal cost it's a terrible supply side < 1424249578 685348 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This level of marginal cost means that opinions are in heavy competition, and it is possible for someone to read news exclusively tailored to their views. < 1424249636 425654 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1424249759 56098 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of this, people can exist within their own "reality" where within reason, what they want to be true, is true. < 1424249798 530036 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those problems will only get worse as long as countries pay more attention to their GDP than to minimum and median incomes as a measure of economic performance and wealth. < 1424249887 19563 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problems with people being able to select their own reality, or the problems with poverty? < 1424249925 344390 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1424249931 719730 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1424249933 895477 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424249949 850776 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be great if they realised the tax only screws everyone but the plutocrats < 1424249990 685885 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former isn't a problem per se, though it probably has some undesirable real world implications. < 1424250088 924988 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, has anybody ever blamed Google for contributing to catching people in a bubble of radical ideas that are internally consistent?) < 1424250149 837138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know people blame Reddit for that a lot, and DuckDuckGo claims not doing that as one of its marketing points < 1424250176 474147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: I think they do; it's intentionally designed that way. Politicians get their share in the form of thinly disguised bribes. < 1424250209 292772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...thinly veiled... < 1424250218 293738 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, why are public services such good laundering grounds < 1424250232 324292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks, interesting. < 1424250263 343130 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least we can make cracks about how the Pentagon used USA Today as a credible source on Putin's neurotype < 1424250284 431332 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor show, and even then, it only means you are getting slapped around by an atypical < 1424250311 737869 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just bubble-hop when reading the news: RT, Fox, Xinhuanet, Asahi Shinbun, BBC. < 1424250376 652062 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1424250384 748130 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I simply don't use google to find things < 1424250391 510162 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1424250401 598468 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I google things with Bing < 1424250408 167866 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1424250522 550493 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :baidu is a good portal to a different bubble < 1424250756 63860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DeadPig14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41945&oldid=41939 5* 03122.37.11.94 5* (+144) 10 < 1424250776 71690 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadpig. Mxlnt! < 1424251664 916437 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dilbert.com/strip/2005-08-21 < 1424251694 30676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424251846 434376 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing < 1424251991 218675 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424253583 929257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :did youknow you can make popcorn in bacon fat? < 1424254560 906853 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.7 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424254689 493415 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtsbogcwnesqvjom QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1424255313 378146 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424256534 158382 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424256649 298103 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424257714 397916 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1424258639 211499 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424259051 755654 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boily. What's with you and chicken? < 1424259304 817578 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 NICK :AndoDaan < 1424259486 140708 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndhelloDaan! < 1424259495 930129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is good. < 1424259514 523438 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AhoiBoiBoily. < 1424259518 916385 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HYPERCRITICAL CHICKEN < 1424259564 604421 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1424259653 483843 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's your answer? It's good? < 1424259773 602924 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, int-e understands the chicken. < 1424259787 510298 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, int-hello!) < 1424259797 979549 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily world < 1424259806 665453 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very zen to qualify chickens. therefore it's good. < 1424259846 916436 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a transcendential thing < 1424259865 587299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1044) DO REINSTATE CHICKENS < 1424259887 318126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE CHICKEN OUT < 1424259903 767715 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas! < 1424259957 978038 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1424260117 523672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :roily < 1424260181 971756 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1424260333 375271 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chickens are just a co-monad in the category of birds. < 1424260375 19247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I am not sure that that makes sense < 1424260385 471842 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is composition in the category of birds? < 1424260425 591571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :an egg < 1424260452 515907 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes more sense < 1424260468 873342 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424260597 123021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman. Tanelle. < 1424260616 939240 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if monads are monoids in the category of endofunctors, what are comonads? < 1424260671 256049 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonoids in the dual category of endofunctors I think < 1424260720 765148 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I am not convinced that comonoids are a thing that is different from monoids < 1424260738 85280 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if we're still talking about chicken
< 1424260771 586768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brains suffered an out of memory error.
< 1424260890 69055 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424260958 121137 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know enough CT to assert that comonoids are a thing, and if so how they relate to comonads? < 1424260962 976229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are < 1424260968 453986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1424260975 874652 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dun ♪ < 1424260981 731614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonads are comonoids in the category of endofunctors, like you'd expect < 1424260988 771003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however comonoids in Hask or such are boring < 1424261008 142875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get blah :: a -> () and bleh :: a -> (a,a) with laws that make it so that bleh x must be (x,x) < 1424261016 348932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're all trivial < 1424261027 559121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to mempty :: () -> a and mappend :: (a,a) -> a) < 1424261053 786640 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh indeed. < 1424261106 47968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it disappointed me too < 1424261113 462145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it helps there's some kinda relationship to linear logic. < 1424261122 858310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like !A is a comonoid, I think. < 1424261178 539472 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is linear logic? < 1424261200 851172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh, that's a whole 'nother story < 1424261202 752090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia knows < 1424261234 820953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424261324 383927 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be wikipédiaing later. too much blood in my coffeestream now. < 1424261336 208481 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't blah and bleh the same thing? < 1424261364 818676 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1424261367 855822 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> () < 1424261377 27267 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> a and a -> (a,a) should be pretty much the same thing < 1424261402 445717 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an isomorphism after all? < 1424261654 36348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MYRIAD CHICKEN < 1424261703 232602 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like ten thousand Chickens when all you need is some rice. < 1424261736 637041 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I need sleep. < 1424261933 790807 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you need is a thread pool full of chickens laying eggs. < 1424261950 705648 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make sure they put their eggs into an MVar. < 1424261976 306960 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Chicken: Just Hen | Cock < 1424262057 496785 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is an Mvar a type of basket? < 1424262379 931820 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1424262424 813676 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1424262436 839967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should learn Haskell ;) < 1424262463 622618 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how I was going to make the eggs in one baskett(?) joke. < 1424262550 379019 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should. I'm getting adept with JS at the moment. A vast improvement over Lua. But I feel like it doesn't contribute much to any deeper understanding of programming. < 1424262608 623045 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all "Developers! Developers! Developers!" < 1424262676 244869 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started that Haskell online book twice now. But lost focus. < 1424262814 641526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming is easy < 1424262817 614090 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :developping is hard < 1424262881 403916 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough. < 1424263079 790825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's no excuse to not learn haskell < 1424263137 682768 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would learning haskell help me better understand esoteric languages? < 1424263234 279508 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1424263425 402514 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424263482 195832 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1424263489 514513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell *is* an esoteric language < 1424263514 427301 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unintentionally? < 1424263538 72797 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl let f x y z = (x && y) && (z || y || x) in f < 1424263538 219435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap (ap . (((.) . (&&)) .) . (&&)) ((flip (||) .) . flip (||)) < 1424263548 174932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1424263555 738968 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ap (ap . (((.) . (&&)) .) . (&&)) ((flip (||) .) . flip (||))" looks pretty esoteric too me < 1424263663 269503 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the dots? < 1424263753 133426 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :function composition < 1424263761 975208 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(g(h(x)) = f .g . h $ x < 1424263774 481846 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (+1) . (*3) $ 4 < 1424263775 934605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13 < 1424263802 510314 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ($>) < 1424263803 895589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘$>’ < 1424263804 41898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1424263804 42034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘>>’ (imported from Control.Monad.Writer), < 1424263813 760698 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define let ($>) = flip ($) < 1424263813 907396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error: EOF < 1424263817 939362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define ($>) = flip ($) < 1424263820 249729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1424263829 644023 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 $> (*3) $> (+1) < 1424263831 214955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13 < 1424263854 380274 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 $> (*3) $> (+1) $> ([]) < 1424263855 669944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘b0 -> c’ with actual type ‘[t0]’ < 1424263858 71888 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1424263861 748497 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 $> (*3) $> (+1) $> (\c -> [c]) < 1424263863 768512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [13] < 1424263871 738771 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 $> (*3) $> (+1) $> (\c -> [c,c]) $> map (*2) < 1424263873 463382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [26,26] < 1424263888 626640 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, definitely looks esoteric to me. Well made point. < 1424263941 318469 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you whish! < 1424263953 595575 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 $> (Just) $> fmap (+1) < 1424263955 410136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 6 < 1424263958 175281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1424263968 488294 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 $> (Just) $> fmap (+1) `mappend` (Just 6) < 1424263969 817177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show b0) < 1424263969 964921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M42903801347602899049054.show_M42903801347602899049... < 1424263969 965084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘b0’ is ambiguous < 1424263972 825413 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1424263973 182296 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1424263976 461737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type mappend < 1424263977 256530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoid a => a -> a -> a < 1424263988 461034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 $> (Just) $> fmap (+1)) `mappend` (Just 6) < 1424263990 49443 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show b0) < 1424263990 195753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M31568903824889092139084.show_M31568903824889092139... < 1424263990 195900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘b0’ is ambiguous < 1424263997 68242 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1424264004 17149 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Nothing `mappend` Nothing < 1424264005 446775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing < 1424264011 819798 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are one input variable functions? < 1424264013 467336 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (Just 5) `mappend` (Just 6) < 1424264014 704390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1424264014 851020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M44189842421378468049108.show_M44189842421378468049... < 1424264014 851179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1424264028 610289 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((Just 5) `mappend` (Just 6)) :: Just Int < 1424264029 866688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected a type, < 1424264030 12971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : but ‘Data.Maybe.Just GHC.Types.Int’ has kind ‘Data.Maybe.Maybe *’ < 1424264038 198636 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((Just 5) `mappend` (Just 6)) :: Maybe Int < 1424264039 290848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Monoid.Monoid GHC.Types.Int) < 1424264039 437548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘Data.Monoid.mappend’ < 1424264047 426760 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1424264073 591751 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((Just 5) `mappend` (Just 6)) :: Maybe () < 1424264074 675587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num ()) arising from the literal ‘5’ < 1424264081 509612 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((Just ()) `mappend` (Just ())) :: Maybe () < 1424264082 752694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just () < 1424264086 140572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah! < 1424264088 916155 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1424264102 697380 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 mappend [Just (), Just (), Nothing] < 1424264104 49576 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just () < 1424264107 895063 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 mappend [Just (), Just (), Nothing, Just ()] < 1424264109 201830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just () < 1424264136 716607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@info First < 1424264136 863615 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :First < 1424264140 707636 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type First < 1424264141 509147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a -> First a < 1424264146 307341 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I've just witnessed a fascinated argument in Esperanto. < 1424264148 870972 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle First < 1424264150 758506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Monoid First :: Maybe a -> First a < 1424264150 904720 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Monoid newtype First a < 1424264150 904841 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Arrow first :: Arrow a => a b c -> a (b, d) (c, d) < 1424264158 143721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424264166 773465 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ALl < 1424264166 969938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude all :: (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1424264167 119722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List all :: (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1424264167 119837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Monoid All :: Bool -> All < 1424264184 264222 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldl1 mappend [All True, All False] < 1424264189 501665 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 mappend [All True, All False] < 1424264190 715450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : All {getAll = False} < 1424264194 133678 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1424264200 204096 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's foldl1 mappend again? < 1424264216 884661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was a shortcut for that < 1424264232 949160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle foldl1 mappend < 1424264233 616995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1424264245 924057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle fold < 1424264246 125034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Foldable fold :: (Foldable t, Monoid m) => t m -> m < 1424264246 271351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.IntSet fold :: (Key -> b -> b) -> b -> IntSet -> b < 1424264246 271490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.IntMap fold :: (a -> b -> b) -> b -> IntMap a -> b < 1424264250 750532 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1424264257 420280 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl [All True, All False] < 1424264258 679877 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘b -> a -> b’ < 1424264258 826165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[Data.Monoid.All]’ < 1424264261 523223 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fold [All True, All False] < 1424264262 730866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : All {getAll = False} < 1424264343 233171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lists are foldable < 1424264343 997155 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1424264369 93931 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: [] is a Foldable and All is a Monoid < 1424264369 830782 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1424264371 601392 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works! < 1424264482 519882 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Folding is like Burlesque's reduction? < 1424264494 792402 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1424264508 425106 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq_uptime < 1424264511 154523 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1424264530 601877 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1424264533 238572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1 1 1 1}r& < 1424264533 384947 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 1 < 1424264535 907283 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1 1 0 1}r& < 1424264536 53605 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0 < 1424264538 958646 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw < 1424264543 385964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats fold [All ...] < 1424264648 126111 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know haskell you can extend burlesque! < 1424264788 158029 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd ever be adept enough to mess with anybody their well crafted work. < 1424264803 340352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424264880 73056 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :muahah < 1424264885 307919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if Burlesque were well crafted < 1424264920 629176 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/lisp/spec.html < 1424264923 939022 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is much more well crafted < 1424264941 126152 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the first esolang I learned to program in. It holds a special place in my esteem. < 1424264982 211581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://codepad.org/kZPDim0y) < 1424265002 102407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424265005 276338 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^- you can use this program to circumvent firewalls) < 1424265507 463510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you'd like to help go ahead :D < 1424265537 987061 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's lots of things that need doing that can be done in the language itself < 1424265542 693352 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no haskell knowledge is required < 1424265559 437804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example a lib to read/write PPM images or stuff like that) < 1424265567 882774 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424265706 90975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could write an interpreter in Java/Python for it < 1424265707 195569 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1424265709 147809 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd help too < 1424265713 411592 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424265791 862586 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perl, or php < 1424265796 654793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I do not have information of fungot's migration route. Although I could compute a lower bound. < 1424265796 801133 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1424265810 452880 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm still a ways away from implenting something as complex as Burlesque. < 1424265826 890852 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it, 349 commands? < 1424265846 29124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1424265846 746700 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 NICK :AndoDaan < 1424265851 773964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant implementing my Lisp Dialect < 1424265862 125360 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always good to have multiple implementations available < 1424265872 666055 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Sorry. < 1424265891 745980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :reimplementing Burlesque is WAAAAAAY TOOOOO MUCH effort < 1424265906 104140 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ?_ < 1424265906 293833 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "I have 358 non-special builtins!" < 1424265911 507141 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :358 :) < 1424265913 56532 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'll look into that. Do you have a more informal description of P~. < 1424265926 555562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the newest dev version is around 380 :) < 1424265957 498319 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody hell. < 1424266006 945113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :P~ is more or less just a LISP dialect < 1424266021 430827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you lots of example code < 1424266040 336168 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sets it apart from LISP? < 1424266090 732287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/tUx6pq4G < 1424266189 754626 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks funnier? :D < 1424266219 497836 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No let*, no set* < 1424266221 86148 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lambda < 1424266235 65554 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably what sets it apart the most. < 1424266323 271344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that proving the Knaster-Tarski fixed point theorem becomes really hard if you mix up the definitions of least and post fixed points :P [for some reason, the least element of a complete lattics is not a fixed point of most monotone functions...] < 1424266351 307762 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has good multithreading built-in < 1424266362 50964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know what LISP has to offer there but I'm sure LISP has multithreading too < 1424266386 990741 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of it as yet another LISP dialect < 1424266388 211369 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1424266422 262818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like experimenting with stuff I guess < 1424266432 690499 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done anything with Lisp since I've read Godel, Escher, Bach years ago. < 1424266449 160287 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1424266454 110784 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or mathemagical themas... one of those two. < 1424266498 702355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1424266503 109631 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too, but I don't seem to have your knack of producing viable offspring out of experimentation. < 1424266504 10777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always just add Burlesque to it :) < 1424266508 52633 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It galls me. < 1424266521 858964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1424266544 313591 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(`XX++` 123) < 1424266552 747115 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1424266564 433506 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :digitsum -> (`XX++` $0) < 1424266571 26362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1424266575 862218 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no < 1424266579 116141 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not my plan < 1424266864 245927 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: galls you? < 1424266995 919528 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over the past few months, I've workend on maybe half a dosen ideas for my own language, but I never seem to be able to output anything. < 1424267028 208647 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dosen/dozen < 1424267059 855296 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing that wrong, I think. < 1424267219 146460 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. I know I'm nowhere near as skilled as any of the group here, but I was hoping enthousiasm would help me to add something of myself. < 1424267276 264665 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. I'm chatty today. Sorry. < 1424267669 895261 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1424267675 975499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you think I feel around here? < 1424267698 517150 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to see some activity even without fungot here :P < 1424267855 365954 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your element? < 1424268041 762557 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Befunge was the first esoteric language I coded in, Burlesque second. Sorry. < 1424268287 175588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... < 1424268299 338878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :try some really esoteric languages < 1424268348 409575 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Interlingua? < 1424268361 801142 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If haskell is esoteric than burlesque true enough esoteric. < 1424268558 660840 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe @in my element < 1424268570 621259 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but compared to 99% of the people in here I know shit about anything < 1424268912 348416 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424270493 933541 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424270645 435168 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-238.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1424270827 906170 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424271242 161909 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1424271622 240137 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.91.86 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1424271698 174011 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1424271876 947676 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424272773 219576 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424272815 272379 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1424272898 727856 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1424273784 601022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424274011 263010 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424274359 338301 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424274389 135609 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1424275244 788145 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424275342 920857 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1424276114 234287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424276123 837803 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1424276193 903672 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424276215 644774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a ridiculous idea on how to implement Eodermdrome < 1424276274 385786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it involve living things? < 1424276275 138394 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424276302 449678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, only incidentally < 1424276302 596201 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424276356 513999 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424276378 853461 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424276487 502038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what is it < 1424276515 942906 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, transpiling it into a research language one of my lecturers made that has similar semantics < 1424276521 298718 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is already implemented < 1424276564 548714 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424276595 820257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the subgraph search is the main barrier to implementation, right? < 1424276612 875800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the implementation does that then you could just reuse it < 1424276634 826046 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424276770 596560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a fair point < 1424276794 641297 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I do not know the license on this code < 1424276900 240557 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow wiki day < 1424276910 431629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it not say? and if not you can always ask the lecturer < 1424276945 514921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(could it be down?) < 1424277027 356990 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1424277033 180064 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1424277375 480003 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424277551 289766 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I could do < 1424277997 71294 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424278042 499017 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1424278122 62344 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP 2 is approved! < 1424278576 730477 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1424278739 568249 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: ? < 1424278744 505783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't like it? < 1424278760 481255 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dontknow about it < 1424278863 196374 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Do I write my next Lisp in JavaScript or F# ... XD < 1424278882 18441 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : next Lisp ?? < 1424278912 704165 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :a guy in #scheme is writing a nice js one which runs in a abrowser < 1424278937 586343 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I already wrote Heresy. < 1424278969 332174 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: HTTP/2 has a lot of cool things. Most importantly, it allows all content needed from a server to be served over a single connection < 1424278983 518023 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok coppro < 1424278992 506616 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for instance, if you visit a page with lots of images, all the images would be sent as requested, rather that negotiating separate connections for each one < 1424278993 682089 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitely an improvement < 1424279048 708501 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unlike existing pipelining, it doesn't rely on a specific order of content < 1424279058 749435 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the server can respond to the requests in whatever order it wants < 1424279069 169335 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, the web make me sad though < 1424279091 410367 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now though I think I want to write a basic string-format function for Heresy. < 1424279113 951310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP/2: so SPDY. < 1424279175 774886 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda wish Heresy had a Haskell style 'show'. It would be a lot easier to write said string-formatter. < 1424279196 929592 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why dont you add it < 1424279208 441997 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should. It's a good idea. < 1424279214 377871 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look forward to the end of sharding. < 1424279219 845321 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess its tricky to copy typeclasses < 1424279227 245785 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can dynamically dispatch to show < 1424279263 333006 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I probably won't go that far. But a simple (show ...) or (str ...) function that turns most arguments into their string representation should be good. < 1424279390 446697 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424279402 829875 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just extend str$ to accept lists really; or even just to (print ...) to an open string value, which would be quite easy. < 1424279559 687293 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1424279590 605207 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424279663 160536 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424279758 318266 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1424279834 945617 :augur_!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1424279848 71603 :augur_!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424280057 287586 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424280262 37795 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an new ideas < 1424280265 867625 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :any < 1424280436 358469 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1424280441 962340 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my ideas are recycled < 1424280452 438259 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :new ideas are over-rated. < 1424280462 303465 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :im bored help me out :) < 1424280469 634788 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone veen looking into anything cool < 1424280472 535534 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New ideas for languages, presumably? < 1424280478 626341 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1424280561 184715 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno about new, but there's stuff I haven't seen implemented or talked about much. < 1424280568 828277 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? < 1424280723 845515 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. what char to use for the templat value signal. < 1424280898 373524 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp tradition tends to use ~, C tradition is %, and the BASIC standard (seldom implemented) is #. < 1424280924 512538 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought of using _, just because it seemed like a value less likely to be needed as a regular character. < 1424280933 582384 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I thought I had something bookmarked. < 1424280957 859544 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424280963 177878 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the letter e < 1424281008 771779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And theen usee thee usual trick of doubling thee eescapee characteer to seelf-inseert. < 1424281025 338178 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1424281077 531304 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket supports Unicode. A shame there's not a Unicode value for the Elder Sign. < 1424281156 485496 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424281170 884306 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424281189 462572 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Various kinds of non-classical logic can be interesting. < 1424281234 198819 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see much being done with those. < 1424281248 241795 :koo7!~kook@236.152.broadband3.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424281285 361452 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of logic? < 1424281311 172503 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fuzzy logic actually is pretty well known for AI stuff. < 1424281348 215556 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember reading about modal logic being used for computation, but a quick search turned up a pdf on it. < 1424281418 431372 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to find the article on Gsome reek logic of discussion system or whatever. < 1424281540 374789 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modal < 1424281575 814197 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it doesn't completely go to pseudoprobablity on that fuzzy logic < 1424281598 294684 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my chances in [0,1] < 1424281778 996394 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1424281979 279308 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424282069 539669 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, another idea I'll try to write about some later is on chatbots. < 1424282122 489810 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically taking a regular chat bot, and using it as a node in a network that passes messages to each other. < 1424282169 144082 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, to start with you'd have a learning bot that tries to mimmic visitors, but it'd pick up dumb stuff from people messing with it. < 1424282238 769653 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you had a non-learning chatbot trained to just paraphrase anything said to it politely, you could use it to filte anything said to the first bot. < 1424282276 609283 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd put heavy weight on the filter < 1424282285 426480 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the pair of bots as a network would appear as one bot that sort of mimmics people, but tries to sound polite. < 1424282313 814944 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum < 1424282330 549850 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find that Gsome reek logic thing < 1424282335 437262 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :send it to me < 1424282387 833684 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wee! That was as easy as I expected. < 1424282417 270983 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1424282417 829167 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just whatever it is where categories of thigns are descriped as "all x are y", "some x are y", "not all x are y", and "no x are y". < 1424282444 402290 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think is used in the type of argument that involves two postulates and one conclusion? < 1424282455 533410 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1424282459 23911 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrote my first version of a string formatter. < 1424282701 600860 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424282892 600887 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424282905 525525 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember any of the terms I want to sue here. < 1424282908 724099 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*use < 1424282929 356853 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just eat and take a nap. < 1424283342 600847 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424283968 408405 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable098.165-202-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1424284669 532343 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1424284865 143196 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1424284999 601627 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424285061 354161 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1424285102 85429 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talked a bit about reversible computation in #haskell < 1424285104 396253 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read it if you like < 1424285144 601614 :NotSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424285167 600406 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424285180 342366 :NotSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1424285189 202720 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1424285362 476930 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1424285608 628530 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424286056 768260 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? vanila < 1424286091 466852 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversible computation sounds nice. < 1424286098 640452 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #haskell < 1424286098 787198 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fascinating subject! < 1424286103 135679 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's over < 1424286107 825729 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can see the logs < 1424286181 213753 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go, he thing I was thinking of. < 1424286193 486069 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_proposition < 1424286295 620255 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : you lied to me vanila , you are strawberry < 1424286298 83124 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : surely that'd be "strawbery"? < 1424286299 493468 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1424286559 223005 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, what about a programming language with classes, in which classes are described in terms of categorical propositions? < 1424286588 209612 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424286632 483487 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess logic programming is a basic example of this < 1424286641 330094 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424286649 671426 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424286649 904367 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you write out assertions of facts < 1424286665 988058 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424286720 891166 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/jeffreycwitt/catlogic this was linked from the wiki page < 1424286734 83168 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you peddling LogicT, by the way, vanila < 1424286749 915942 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never talked about it < 1424286794 522591 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit's reversible < 1424286798 426738 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1424286814 645660 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like it's a different type of reversible, not sure.. < 1424286920 903522 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-180.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1424287080 695347 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn, im having a problem with xz < 1424287085 909438 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blu < 1424287087 933598 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see now < 1424287640 761470 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424287916 222191 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I did for fun this evening: https://github.com/jarcane/heresy/blob/master/lib/string.rkt#L78 < 1424288012 719737 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424288214 590535 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424289412 102190 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=http://mdude1350.webs.com/generators/random-code/IBNIZ-basic-generator.txt < 1424289559 947603 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1424289653 351415 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It produces random texts which, most of the time, are syntactically valid IBNIZ programs. < 1424289655 434623 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1424289655 914019 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1424289716 716662 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424289727 424318 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly I'm trying to reduce the probability of boring programs without making the results too predetermined. < 1424289746 803566 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you are making completely random ones? < 1424289762 279996 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I have 1.7e21 heavenly chips < 1424289765 690413 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm trying to do. < 1424289811 869963 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=http://mdude1350.webs.com/generators/random-code/IBNIZ-simple-generator.txt < 1424289826 687399 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a earlier version of it. < 1424289847 424230 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is, I want to avoid stuff like adding a number only to immediately pop it. < 1424289881 463515 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or putting two constants in and doing an operation that just makes a third constant. < 1424289883 588774 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1424289904 36335 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that just uses up space. < 1424289911 539933 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I want them to be random, but terse. < 1424289936 971418 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other is that adding commands completely randomly causes stack over and underflows. < 1424289972 427214 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at first, I was just trying to string together commands that added up to a net change of zero to the number of items in the stack. < 1424290010 840166 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that can still cause underflows early in the program depending on what order things end up in. < 1424290051 660297 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424290122 619614 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be easier to made random programs in a language that groups with parentheses, I think. < 1424290136 259264 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least has a BNF definition written up. < 1424290211 437043 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1424290378 365108 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424290402 919886 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1424290914 417363 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1424290963 822516 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I was saying before my computer turned off, most languages don't do A/V as simply as IBNIZ does. < 1424291004 524476 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could try making something for http://wurstcaptures.untergrund.net/music/ which is audio-only. < 1424291389 544104 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1424291564 354030 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1424293415 34563 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1424293569 923414 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424293723 375985 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: BY A/V you mean audio and video? < 1424293925 400725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :architecture/ventriloquism < 1424294149 254241 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cfsgwyxrnktcqohm JOIN :#esoteric < 1424294621 735530 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1424294717 242287 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1424294732 245038 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1424295210 310013 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1424295265 566811 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, audeio/video. That's what IBNIZ does with whatever's on the stack after each cycle the programs runs. < 1424295422 420512 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424295547 938294 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: IBNIZ is a pretty great thing. < 1424295634 78571 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the case. < 1424295754 365509 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it'd be simple to generate arbitrary programs in this text generator, but it seems to really not like recursion. < 1424296469 897169 :koo7!~kook@236.152.broadband3.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1424296801 797310 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-238.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1424297008 591743 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I forgot to define what operators are. < 1424297019 382714 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both porbably. < 1424299331 343980 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable098.165-202-24.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424300564 925277 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1424301448 36437 :_AndoDaan!~AD@188.188.91.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1424301480 186629 :_AndoDaan!~AD@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the wiki down? < 1424301523 575555 :_AndoDaan!~AD@188.188.91.86 NICK :AndoDaan < 1424302004 315059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1424302018 119910 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1424302032 74528 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy asked about the wiki, "it down?" < 1424302033 276381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1424302033 420271 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 10h 3m 56s ago: I do not have information of fungot's migration route. Although I could compute a lower bound. < 1424302042 960992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fiendish < 1424302047 261158 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1424302081 850307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks down < 1424302085 189255 :AndoDaan!~AD@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. Some Guy here. < 1424302088 984358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not someone who can fix it. < 1424302102 796865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, may i recommend downforeveryoneorjustme < 1424302104 834996 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we call in Stallman? < 1424302115 965860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fizzie or Gregor < 1424302138 244056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly they both look idle < 1424302157 843940 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie are terrorists attacking your servers? You may need to do something about it < 1424302182 957440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: the server is known to be crap, it's free hosting. < 1424302195 855109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so outages are to be expected. < 1424302208 761409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo hi < 1424302208 905325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo hi"]} target:#esoteric rest:"hi" < 1424302211 904481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1424302214 357215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1424302230 804660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh HackEgo isn't even here < 1424302242 887189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's likely the server is physically down, then. < 1424302249 799879 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie rescind that previous statment, did a stiff breeze cause the servers to reformat? < 1424302278 693470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dulla: fizzie is likely to be asleep, he's in britain and has a job... < 1424302287 613631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has been idle for 5 hours < 1424302305 966328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor has also been idle for 5 hours, but is normally in canada these days < 1424302340 902128 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :site admins that sleep < 1424302356 264227 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch that, site admins that are awake < 1424302372 105421 :AndoDaan!~AD@188.188.91.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Thanks for the downforeveryone... tip. Didn't know about that. Handy. < 1424302386 41422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately there are only those two that can access the server as opposed to just the wiki. < 1424302394 8889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for _some_ things, only Gregor can. < 1424302429 337095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's nifty < 1424302442 61682 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1424302452 288777 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it send multiple requests from different locations? < 1424302463 17074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1424302471 292191 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a free proxy view site < 1424302498 545657 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1424302501 4614 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great way to get around robot.txt < 1424302511 120159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i consider the tests conclusive enough for the moment. < 1424302572 393151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Gregor while nominally more likely to be awake, also has a history of being much less active here than fizzie. < 1424302661 697563 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like having an invisible pink unicorn in a world that only has unicorns, and no invisibility capabilities < 1424302696 152120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1424303313 898636 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1424303474 841794 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1424303685 627578 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1424303736 921662 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Quit: byeannes < 1424303781 187492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's a great way to get around robot.txt < 1424303794 651122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the best way to do that not to just... ignore robots.txt? < 1424303815 984990 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what you need to do with third-parties that respect robot.txt < 1424303910 254317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish