< 1422835230 472057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also thanks to multiway-if, | is now sometimes a layout keyword. it wasn't originally but i remember loudly pointing out that was a mistake and some time later they added layout. < 1422835286 278238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that my shouting was in the right place to be the direct cause) < 1422835348 844440 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422836288 645135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up two Magic: the Gathering cards based on suggestions from the game master for the Dungeons&Dragons game, which are called "Imp of Deception" (opponent's mana is of a different color than they expect) and "Calimshan Advisor" (opponent shows you the cards he intends to use during his turn). < 1422836293 993554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : We don't have many Chinese in European soccer teams yet, but only because they prefer other sports. <-- didn't i mention a while ago that the chinese premier is a soccer fan who wants to make china stop being abysmal at it < 1422836314 588562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that may change. eventually. < 1422836342 171718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the effects to make them work better with the rules of Magic: the Gathering though. Did you look at it? < 1422836386 592718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw the chart for norway would be Football and, bizarrely, Cross Country Skiing) < 1422836398 175278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1422836448 896885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(norway is dominating the latter to an unhealthily degree - unhealthy because every other country is starting to lose their remaining interest in the sport) < 1422836453 313485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-ly < 1422836457 881258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-i < 1422836460 843467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+y < 1422836624 325347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok the chart would also have some other winter sports) < 1422836735 197273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :decades ago, skating used to be huge in norway. i think the dutch may be doing the "unhealthy dominance" thing on that at present. < 1422836963 464836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made "sqlircbot" but I haven't tried it yet http://sprunge.us/MNaa please tell me if you notice anything wrong, or that I should need to fix, or other feature suggestion, or complaint, etc < 1422837194 174230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :This channel is defunged | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1422837303 634659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for zzo38 to rewrite fungot in sqlite3 < 1422837339 904559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for fungot to rewrite zzo38 in scheme < 1422837373 443170 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's a little schemer < 1422837398 837202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have a intention to rewrite fungot in anything; you rewrite fungot if you like to do so. I doubt fungot has any such intention either, although maybe they can fake it. < 1422837460 343174 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sigh. I was merely trying to hint, politely (ok, maybe not), at the fact that you seem to be a bit obsessed with sqlite. < 1422837475 121235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1422837485 845469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are allowed to say thing like that if you like to do so. < 1422837500 397831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was merely trying to hint, politely, at the fact that fungot seems to be a bit obsessed with scheme hth < 1422837547 283057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it may have to do with hanging around on #scheme < 1422837564 645826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1422837572 403285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a theory < 1422837638 974520 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :This channel got defunged | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1422837660 839868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with being obsessed with something < 1422837698 899099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nothing, but it can be hard to take for people who are not obsessed about the same things. < 1422837707 126688 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422837712 231028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ...with... < 1422837880 584362 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1422837955 901884 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1422838013 734101 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422838215 960290 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1422838240 287356 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am listening to my (British) university's radio coverage for the Superbowl < 1422838248 835182 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what is going on, and neither do they < 1422838410 980199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then call them on telephone and complain < 1422838412 812734 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Patriots are up 42 to 7, what does that mean? We don't know" < 1422838421 724394 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, It's amusing < 1422838429 791212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're now ordering pizza < 1422838493 315764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've got the person on the student union representing sports clubs < 1422838572 567997 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent in a message saying "Do any of you have any idea what is going on?" < 1422838593 304009 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they read it out and said "Absolutely not, except for one thing, and that's that pizza is on its way" < 1422838680 417528 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they should interpret the game using British football rules. < 1422838706 855687 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there was a touchdown < 1422838711 21754 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they work like in Rugby < 1422838716 574435 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they get to convert the touchdown < 1422838786 155896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't know what that means, I'm just reading things that are on the screen" < 1422838815 231523 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is hilarious < 1422839179 627001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up two variants of Magic: the Gathering which are using entirely proxies, which is one for Limited (using a Solomon draft) and one for Constructed (using duel decks). < 1422839220 459275 :hutin!~baudrilla@177.42.117.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422839448 911959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41787&oldid=41554 5* 0366.57.93.188 5* (+40) 10/* Nim */ < 1422839492 429490 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the campus satire magazine has came to beat up the radio presenters < 1422839652 907437 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, in football you can convert a touchdown. < 1422839699 993789 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you ordinarily kick for a field goal to get an extra point rather than do a two-point conversion. < 1422839717 663465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you going to convert it into? < 1422839735 988226 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The nomenclature is... weird. < 1422839774 245374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's why nobody understands? < 1422839775 905652 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "two point conversion" in American football refers to attempting a second run into the in zone immediately after a touchdown in a single play. < 1422839798 916887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41788&oldid=41787 5* 0366.57.93.188 5* (+18) 10/* Changed language name to Nim. Allow multiple commands at once. */ < 1422839800 737128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1422839845 941097 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did katy perry become an american copy of kyary pamyu pamyu < 1422840024 790383 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like seriously, googly eyed beachballs and palm trees. clearly copying kyary pamyu pamyu < 1422840034 901532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422840049 919541 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be perfectly honest, American football is not that complicated a game, particularly if you understand rugby. < 1422840058 855561 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(American footbball is "just" a very weird variant of rugby) < 1422840091 885827 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugby is a very weird variant of soccer. < 1422840107 433673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are probably correct but that doesn't make it easily enough to understand by people who don't understand these kind of game! < 1422840119 885466 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Association football is a weird variant of Magic: The Gathering < 1422840121 223581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if the nomenclature is... weird. < 1422840154 628071 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MTG is a reasonable varient of Pocket Monsters. < 1422840170 228064 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pokemon for short. < 1422840175 695264 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: True. It's not *hard*, but it's non-zero knowledge. < 1422840212 992590 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, was MTG the first card game of it's kind? < 1422840214 791219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Gathering is different from football and Pocket Monsters entirely, just as much as poker is different from chess and stuff like that, and more < 1422840220 672056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: I believe so. < 1422840250 843447 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a mind the invertor must have. < 1422840302 428788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there was no Limited play when it was first designed, only Constructed. There also weren't any deck construction rules as far as I know, and many cards were written in ways that are unusual for today, some cards says "destroys a black card as it is being cast", and "target creature is now a flying creature", and "if this reduces creature's toughness below 1, it is dead" < 1422840383 197182 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest to a predecessor to MTG, which isn't especially similar, is Cosmic Encounter. < 1422840442 828057 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are now ordering pizza LIVE ON AIR < 1422840469 191363 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, it is a terrible idea to order pizza in the US during the Superbowl. < 1422840502 260354 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can, they will take your order, and they will deliver it, but don't be surprised if the game has been over for an hour by the time they actually make the thing. < 1422840502 405054 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, good thing they are in Yorkshire < 1422840506 855742 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1422840513 676058 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Yorkshire I can't imagine it's a big problem. < 1422840534 941079 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except that it's 0130. < 1422840558 379849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I've ordered later successfully < 1422840568 213863 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a city with two universities < 1422840575 486551 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that'd help. < 1422840582 511223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am supposed to design Aberration Hater Card Game though, instead of being mainly Constructed it can be designed from the start to be mainly for Limited, as well as from the start it says you can use proxies if it is written clearly and don't constitute "marked cards". < 1422840590 559044 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be limited in options, but still. < 1422840631 176142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also if I can try to design the rules from the start so that you don't get unclear and ambiguous problems, by inventing the programming language to design the rules with. < 1422840662 493295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you believe it is a better, worse, or neither, idea than how other game design. < 1422840734 177106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of such thing anyways? < 1422840823 622309 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this rate, Chrome is going to assume General Biotics is one of my favorite websites < 1422840837 848115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you disable those feature? < 1422840841 974023 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've... < 1422840861 761865 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've challenged the satire magazine to strip-watching Superbowl < 1422840872 599692 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :One item of clothing for each point scored < 1422840888 792943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen when they run out of clothing? < 1422840951 91311 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they lose I guess < 1422840979 104572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever has a lot of clothing is winner. < 1422840994 935341 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've just realised that they're going to have to collect the pizza after a while < 1422841392 911944 :hutin!~baudrilla@177.42.117.106 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422841467 897002 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I'm going to bed < 1422841495 785230 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you start hearing owls and radio commentators talking about themselves stripping it's time to sleep < 1422841685 999368 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The last time we called him on air, he was in the middle of something... very personal, that" < 1422842572 428862 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41789&oldid=41788 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-61) 10Undo everything except name change, misunderstood language semantics < 1422843124 922466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadfish may be a simple esolang, but it's semantics are among the hardest to understand unaided < 1422843128 832702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1422843592 481659 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422843756 326214 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422843959 124497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41790&oldid=41785 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* General languages */ Totally Accurate Ordering < 1422844245 297762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41791&oldid=41730 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3) 10fix some punct. < 1422844417 775292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfork14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41792&oldid=41774 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+54) 10unsigned < 1422844527 951411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Al Dente14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41793&oldid=41781 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+52) 10unsigned < 1422844669 711008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Totally Accurate Malbolge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41794&oldid=41786 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+16) 10fmt, link < 1422844835 814563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TomPN has managed to outrun my patience with adding unsigned templates < 1422845077 796319 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have to manually collect the metadata? < 1422845192 423129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't know if i _have_ to, but i generally cut and paste from the history subpage < 1422845214 397703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjusting the time zone as well < 1422845272 240002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the chore of it that broke my patience, but the fact that he keeps not signing even as my previous templates are visible on the same page < 1422845334 324222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~~### < 1422845368 453649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1422847033 79750 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422847419 7931 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422847426 653331 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1422847662 5781 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422847737 665082 :one!ac381b6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.56.27.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422848077 534978 :one!ac381b6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.56.27.108 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1422848154 634646 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422848175 258481 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422848409 271297 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422848495 147987 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving JOIN :#esoteric < 1422848742 380660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game called "Cuttle" with some similarities with Magic: the Gathering is said to have been invented much earlier--in 1970s at the latest. < 1422848966 171899 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly know of Cosmic Encounter because it's what Garfield actually had *played* that gave him ideas for MTG. < 1422848974 918419 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also because I've played Cosmic Encounter. < 1422849837 901153 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasgeneralbioticsreleasedtheirstudyyet.example.com: NO < 1422850570 931277 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422850897 967131 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422851184 406039 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1422851973 591479 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422852008 289004 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422852043 581754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Const < 1422852044 377507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> * -> * < 1422852050 303414 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1422852606 388520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he's playing too much devil's advocate https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9858#comment:43 < 1422852953 855881 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422852986 565453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1422853664 607950 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1422853681 885236 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422854412 282924 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1422855130 293516 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.82.98 QUIT :Quit: Off to find the mythical clitoris. < 1422857703 844231 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422857842 229560 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:680:104c:2571:eb0b:20ae:5e69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422857922 101700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422857939 692921 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1422858157 373896 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422858538 949830 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422858802 439997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1422858954 242573 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422859649 769846 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1422860848 253381 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422861096 999724 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422861185 20786 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422861305 361099 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422861355 463898 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422862077 405148 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:680:104c:2571:eb0b:20ae:5e69 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1422862244 937631 :sqlircbot1!~sqlircbot@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422862257 332767 :sqlircbot1!~sqlircbot@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422862269 880121 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422862511 1839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got SQLIRCBOT working now. You can try sending VERSION, PING, and TIME requests to it at "sqlircbot1". < 1422862676 369808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1422863076 167426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will terminate it for now. < 1422863577 902935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: great < 1422863594 751754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you killed it? < 1422863611 370722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; I only needed it on temporarily for testing < 1422863631 383124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can put back on if you want and I can also show you the program and schema if you like it too. < 1422863640 790341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later < 1422863651 998224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VERSION, TIME, and PING requests are responded by triggers. < 1422863667 722546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, you said you'll do everything by triggers < 1422863676 110965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This isn't a built-in feature of SQLIRCBOT) < 1422863730 142001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it respond to server PING requests, or else at least send a message every five minutes, so that the server doesn't kick it for being idle? < 1422863765 650310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Responding to server PING requests is built-in to SQLIRCBOT; it is one of the few things that doesn't use triggers. < 1422863810 135931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes it does do that (and currently there is no way to turn that off). < 1422863883 609807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also don't need triggers to log the date/time; to do that you can use a DEFAULT clause in the CREATE TABLE statement. < 1422863982 481930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The responding to client pings looks like this: CREATE TRIGGER ping_trigger before insert on irc_log when new.command = 'PRIVMSG' collate nocase and new.arg2 like (x'01'||'PING%') begin select ircsend('notice',new.nick,new.arg2); end; < 1422863993 91743 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. you really need to respond to PING messages because some non-freenode servers absolutely won't talk to you unless you do < 1422864006 601854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's one specific thing I'd like to ask you about though < 1422864021 333229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the host program automatically responds to server pings regardless of the database schema. < 1422864056 189925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What specific thing do you like to ask me about? < 1422864087 730131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how irc networks use one of two casefolding methods to fold the case of nicknames and channel names. the server tells you which one it uses in a 005 message early. < 1422864103 151261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about IRC casefolding. < 1422864119 925907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically, it tells you early enough that you could depend on that message, but it's very difficult to organize code in a way that guarantees you don't need to know about casefolding before the server tells you. < 1422864120 679638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLIRCBOT implements a collation called IRCNOCASE which does that. < 1422864165 598178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my take is that when I just tell the casefolding to the program before I set up the connection, and then verify it, and if the server tells it's wrong then I make the program die, because it's just easier to implement it that way. < 1422864173 341844 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you handle this? < 1422864206 215231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your database schema will need to know which kind of casefolding to use. < 1422864239 777589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want you can add a trigger that checks that it is the correct one, but normally you probably don't need to. < 1422864299 103237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are only logging, it doesn't normally matter which one you use anyways (unless you want to add an index by name), but if you want to do other stuff too then you would figure this out and do this. < 1422864370 887363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I handle it. If you want the non-English casefolding then you just will use the IRCNOCASE collation; for English casefolding use NOCASE collation. < 1422864397 260053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this answer your question? < 1422864477 139064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes. < 1422864515 528361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely need code in my bot that follows the nicks my bot sees. For that, I need to follow JOIN, QUIT, PART, KICK, NICK, 353, 366 messages, plus if I want to follow nickserv accounts too then I have to issue CAP and WHOx commands and follow ACCOUNT, 354, 315 messages. < 1422864581 906897 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Freenode has a set of three extensions that together let you track which nicks on channels are logged in to what nickserv accounts. I will need this for my bot ideally.) < 1422864779 939361 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have proof of concept code for this, but I'll have to make sane code. < 1422864923 145246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other difficult part of irc handling I encountered is making sure you don't send too many messages so the server doesn't kick you. I have the throttling code working so I know exactly how much I can send, but the hard part is making the bot behave sanely when its queue fills up too much and it can't empty it because it keeps getting incoming requests. I don't have a good solution for that yet. < 1422865055 67126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does your bot attempt to handle that? < 1422865432 207557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently have no such code although maybe it should have. < 1422865452 738179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains no timing code at all for now because I cannot figure out how to get it to work. < 1422865521 486935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I assume that it wouldn't receive incoming requests too fast either. < 1422865534 460898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the other client is also limited to the same speed. < 1422865682 884938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't actually have to use timing code for this < 1422865828 408823 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have to count bytes < 1422865859 105182 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422865903 942210 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though timing might help < 1422866234 652984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1422866407 245119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the irc server gives each connection a buffer of 3000something bytes (3072 I think, but I'm not sure). It removes a command from that buffer only after it's processed the previous command from that connection completely. If you send more input than fits in the buffer, it disconnects you. If you send a line longer than 512 bytes (counting the terminating LF) it also disconnects you. < 1422866416 394286 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1422866452 142196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easy way to know how much you can send is to reserve the last 7 bytes of that buffer, send a PING command before the buffer gets full, and continue sending only after the server has replied to that PING command. < 1422866465 973407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do more elaborate tracking, but this is the easiest to implement. < 1422866487 142277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also another throttling on the server which is much more difficult to handle.) < 1422866516 426320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Taktentus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41795&oldid=41782 5* 03Taktentus 5* (+136) 10new version and some other t < 1422866584 193968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK thanks < 1422866641 617309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of this stupid specific information about IRC servers is not documented well and I have to acquire it from various pieces of partial documentation, from talking to people who know the servers on #freenode, from experimenting, and sometimes even from the source code. < 1422866780 575310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41796&oldid=41746 5* 03Taktentus 5* (+16) 10add taktentus < 1422867205 720057 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear sometimes there's nothing worse than waking up later than someone who's already been awake long enough to get chatty ... < 1422867580 607974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will implement your ideas OK thank you for telling me how it is working. < 1422867723 468824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see my newest Magic: the Gathering cards and puzzle.3? (The solution is available too if you want it, although I didn't write the solution but I did make up the puzzle by myself.) < 1422867774 222461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't yet < 1422867956 482831 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/02/raspberry_pi_model_2/ < 1422869282 163532 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later if you did then you can tell me. < 1422870728 175035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is BF Joust scoring just the same as PageRank < 1422871150 60101 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.90.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422871195 279630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at least pretty close. < 1422871774 776142 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1422872539 524005 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.90.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422872663 1779 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.90.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1422872836 516281 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422872913 375315 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.75.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422873023 325582 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.90.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422873283 365025 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.75.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1422873774 925167 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're ranking the jousters, not the pages. < 1422875793 929220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422876542 233162 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. you set the topic to something very serious. what happened to dear Sir Fungellot? < 1422877179 906743 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422877733 997372 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422877961 222198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 22:11 -!- fungot [fis@selene.zem.fi] has quit [Quit: BEEP BOOP TIME TO TAKE A BREAK] < 1422877976 890141 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PART :#esoteric < 1422877995 562853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's having a vacation. < 1422878069 492840 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422878843 276291 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422879342 108002 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1422879588 309545 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even bots have right to their own two paid vacation weeks. < 1422879593 601830 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1422879593 910221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 021210Z 02020KT 1SM R06L/P6000FT/D R06R/P6000FT/D -SN BLSN SCT009 OVC022 M22/M26 A3000 RMK SN1SF2SC5 SLP163 < 1422879620 789424 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ACCLIMATISED CHICKEN < 1422880371 322263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh... the pun burns < 1422881939 999248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a bit more than two weeks. < 1422882869 48340 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYST < 1422882869 692057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1422884856 413549 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422885706 505943 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 974 < 1422885709 108851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 974: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1422886194 283529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1422886464 293280 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: olist 974 < 1422886590 210304 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422886672 387137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw in the logs < 1422886821 564468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1422888309 612406 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1422888326 658565 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422891271 902029 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1422891414 950517 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422891595 822099 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1422891703 219790 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422892026 668655 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is perfectly barking: http://cj-johnson.github.io/Single-Tag_Website/ < 1422892083 932045 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422893745 915583 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422893747 375396 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422893923 307443 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422895226 352947 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422895584 414573 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1422896296 681640 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1422896302 716453 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1422896412 831118 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/pigworker/PolyTest/blob/master/TLCAPoly.pdf?raw=true < 1422896557 317131 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422896748 455023 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422897618 485725 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1422898029 579753 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422898624 469659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1422899047 270324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422899051 938010 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1422899878 349651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Death to pdf urls that don't open in the browser! < 1422900106 96110 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422900130 362971 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422900136 660084 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.84.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP vanila...'s pdf url. < 1422900363 853619 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422900399 118763 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422900484 883434 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zaksjfoletqikomh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1422900941 390288 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1422901148 709659 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1422901250 397950 :S1!~S1@p4FF93EE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422901419 229608 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422901588 103800 :arjanb!8259adb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.173.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422902438 108713 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Quit: mitchs < 1422902831 850370 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of math is required to take matrices of derivatives without disassembling them < 1422903058 444728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example d/dB A x B < 1422903127 498464 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing it by turning it into a summation and then turning the final formula back into a set of matrix operations < 1422903199 602732 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1422903892 671370 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422903964 648071 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422904608 524011 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-149-19.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1422904798 248237 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422904902 94454 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Biotics study still not released < 1422904941 482401 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-149-19.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1422905101 183972 :S1!~S1@p4FF93EE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1422905531 249344 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422906450 645139 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422907032 550772 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422907266 906831 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422907413 163404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422907609 285650 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422907992 127399 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422908115 413236 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422908145 333373 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1422908704 297294 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422909440 559107 :oren!~oren@user3-214-115.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422909691 67936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comes bf2d is not on the wiki? < 1422910867 157781 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422911126 656052 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422911192 362044 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422911575 644601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422911593 113604 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422914306 168101 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PART :#esoteric < 1422914913 701636 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422915142 645850 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422915604 391167 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422915613 831321 :dtscode!~dtscode@dtscode.io QUIT :Quit: (dtscode.io) < 1422915682 245875 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@174-134-25-153.res.bhn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422915989 343037 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422916055 241937 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422916170 754882 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422916207 569005 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1422916608 202406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should I work the send buffering into sqlircbot? I did already fix it not to send lines that are too long in case some IRC server disconnects you when that happens < 1422916667 35996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The IRCSEND function returns 1 if it could not send for any reason (line too long, parameters before the last one having spaces, any one having carriage returns and line feeds) or 0 if it can send, but that doesn't seem to fix the send buffer size too) < 1422917247 679008 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422917437 685982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I should PING the server and wait for the PONG response to know they have processed the message but I cannot seem to see where in this program such a thing can go without blocking everything else the program is doing. < 1422917579 533459 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422917646 222772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can store the messages you want to send in a table (you are probably already doing that), and add triggers to try to send some of the messages from that table both when (1) a new message is added and the table was empty, and (2) when you get the PONG response so you know the output buffer is cleared. < 1422917675 254624 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is when that table gets too long so you can never clear it and are sending very old messages. < 1422917820 442730 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO < 1422917821 408434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 022156Z 00000KT 8SM FEW002 BKN200 17/11 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP194 T01670106 < 1422918104 916135 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it's possible to make tables that have C callbacks for some operations (like adding or deleting a row) < 1422918134 385761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can do those things < 1422918169 902898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I have the sending messages done by the IRCSEND function exposed to the SQL program and want the C code in that function to handle it somehow < 1422918182 977148 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://sqlite.org/vtab.html) < 1422918244 11597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, virtual tables, although I don't expect virtual tables to really help with what I am trying to do here at all < 1422918298 274793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1422918321 606948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't need virtual tables for thsi < 1422918331 686563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they help either < 1422918337 352328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need only triggers < 1422918486 148092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: GG updated. < 1422918557 507663 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hmm, it's still working up to one of Agatha's outbreaks. < 1422918587 53051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"outbreak"? < 1422918680 907187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sudden violent spontaneous occurrence (usually of some undesirable condition) hth < 1422918699 194153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well int-e has predicted one kind of that < 1422918700 879519 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh you know when she starts to shout and make a stand < 1422918709 8647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1422918725 519862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the word means that in english. < 1422918734 427722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, doesn't it. < 1422918746 971621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't have that. The language is there to bend to my will. < 1422918748 802036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"outburst" < 1422918753 432268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1422918786 72641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although on the bright side, its cognate does so in norwegian, so i assume german is similar. < 1422918809 911277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, sort of cognate. < 1422918839 586068 :oren!~oren@user3-214-115.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422918841 441588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"utbrudd" < 1422918879 281046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect both break and burst are cognates of it < 1422918923 323430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fine, outburst it is. < 1422919089 378479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm they're supposedly from different, but eerily similar PIE roots < 1422919101 394114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just going back a bit further, then < 1422919200 503611 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( /topic This channel got defunged | Breaking bubbles and ursting barriers | ... ) < 1422919206 938474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now I just put in sleep for 1 millisecond per character sent, but probably I should change it later < 1422919219 646342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the way I put now is not very good < 1422919222 27487 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that sounds unhealthy < 1422919256 934367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1422919270 439569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/urst/burst/ < 1422919327 79796 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( All these typos are seriously denting my prefectionism. ) < 1422919341 229496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :This channel got defunged | reaking ubbles and ursting arriers | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1422919361 430844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just now changed it to twice as fast, which probably still not so good but might work, I don't know < 1422919370 791623 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: usually spelled correctly? < 1422919395 65940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think we had that yes < 1422919395 539513 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :t's ow sually pelled orrectly < 1422919398 354008 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1422919406 905393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, bussualy < 1422919462 960197 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sotp hruntig my bairn. < 1422919494 318662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: some of those words are real tdnh < 1422919506 3673 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just sharing some pain here, hoping to alleviate it. < 1422919551 917382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that never works hth < 1422919641 567297 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I only accept pain in capsaicin form. < 1422919642 771710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is a desensitizing effect at least. < 1422919659 559660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well then your brain shouldn't be hurting now. < 1422919678 71715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which it probably isn't, not literally at least, but never mind that.) < 1422919745 265645 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422919805 882 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422919821 999023 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. do you reak ubbles oo? < 1422919871 440138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I see you're adopting my strategy. < 1422919902 149859 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adapt with the imes, I say. < 1422919988 140022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a tricky one. Should we adopt adaptation or adapt adoptation... < 1422920089 312985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly the kind of conundrum I'd be asking Sir Fungellot, but it seems to have been excised from the chännel... < 1422920194 545566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still on vacation. < 1422920212 79557 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may opt for adept adaptation. < 1422920226 8453 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1422920336 51456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this way better: - Keep track of how many characters are send so far. - If it would exceed 3000, instead send a PING and insert the message to send into a temporary table. - If the PING has been sent and not responded yet, also insert into temporary table. < 1422920347 426823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Once the server responds by PONG then delete records from the temporary table. - This temporary table can have triggers to resend the message when records are deleted. - Once it runs out then reset the counter to zero and you can send messages normally again. < 1422920439 114280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you expect this can work then? < 1422920942 636437 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422921258 838230 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422921345 878776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you need to subtract the size of a PING from the 3000 < 1422921366 318441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I forgot to mention that < 1422921382 763702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be 8 bytes though < 1422921511 243528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since you can write "PING 1" followed by a carriage return and a line feed, which will be 8 bytes in total)