< 1422231002 307611 :skj3gg_!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231002 500688 :skj3gg_!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1422231025 235713 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231040 420712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422231056 274341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231122 566031 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.spoj.com/SHORTEN/problems/MB2/ < 1422231133 679006 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes gmail the only email I only ever bother checking every other decade < 1422231149 863882 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time I check it will be when I'm 20 < 1422231171 239119 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone tell me how this can be solved with 12 chars when just to create the constant number 10 you need 10 chars? < 1422231173 859302 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422231181 251054 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing something? :-S < 1422231226 879588 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422231282 876318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: yes < 1422231290 376822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to care about 10 < 1422231308 818795 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the input ends with that char and if you "," after the end of input it just hangs. < 1422231341 650591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it does < 1422231345 34159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most bf implementations don't behave that way < 1422231361 37682 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :they return chr(0)? i'll try again with that assumption. < 1422231369 167595 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :or EOF? < 1422231374 820200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 or 255 or no change < 1422231377 835716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably 0. < 1422231387 499514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just solved it in 10 in vim. < 1422231396 980116 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can look at the source of bff ( http://swapped.cc/#!/bff ), or there are other ways to find out too < 1422231419 402271 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks i'll check the source and see how it behaves. < 1422231440 108494 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ideone uses most of the same language versions, so you can do tests there < 1422231451 566164 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for spoj in general < 1422231464 788410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually maybe my solution is 11, but whatever. < 1422231498 7335 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want me to tell you the EOF behavior, i also don't mind just saying it :p < 1422231538 977138 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs no thanks I'll figure it out. :-) Cheers elliott and mitchs. :-) < 1422231544 342835 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1422231566 474922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs: is that 10 byte solution yours? < 1422231598 550394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs: if yes, how do you deal with gur arrq gb fxvc gur ynfg vachg olgr, naq gur (cerfhzrq) arrq gb abg eha bss gur yrsg bs gur gncr? < 1422231638 482464 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am confused, but pleasantly so < 1422231642 222129 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't used vim < 1422231643 670532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot13 :p < 1422231651 467577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to spoil Tritonio. < 1422231691 248790 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get out for a moment elliott. brb in 10 min or so. ;-) < 1422231696 864941 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1422231703 952539 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all there are pm's lol < 1422231704 203411 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231706 277092 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0 < 1422231710 204060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot13 is more fun < 1422231717 327660 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :and secondly you said "didn't". < 1422231723 32302 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1422231725 677396 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231725 993061 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, you meant you wrote it using vim, not that it's a vim solution like on anagol, of course < 1422231749 503585 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :Guest16073 < 1422231761 361023 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well lots of poeple are tied for first place with 12 bytes, which is dictated by the EOF behavior < 1422231792 490105 :Guest16073!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :paul2520 < 1422231799 509613 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1422231799 663621 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422231824 168626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1422231834 886765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that Tritonio said 12 chars. < 1422232004 341334 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the standard judge on spoj works like your_output.split() == expected_out.split() < 1422232205 596561 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :put < 1422232313 916817 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip98-177-176-240.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422232364 585350 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422232981 934444 :tswett!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422232982 87828 :tswett!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1422232982 87957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233135 786220 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Client Quit < 1422233229 281874 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233391 895677 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422233470 516410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233523 711391 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creepy Suzan? < 1422233540 586462 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1422233592 227020 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233657 962616 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it using int sized cells??? so overflows don't happen at 256? https://github.com/apankrat/bff/blob/master/bff.c < 1422233715 498571 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233809 152301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: yes < 1422233851 89599 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233967 914860 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422233989 265353 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422233993 523048 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww... :-( < 1422234059 85688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, why is it using -1 for eof in one case (getc for reading from stdin) and 0 in another (getc_ext for readinf from a file)? < 1422234107 67806 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422234134 84332 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: it may be enough to change the type of 'v' and the math in grow() < 1422234191 218874 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e nah I don't need an interpreter. I just wanted to see how the one in spoj.com behaves... < 1422234215 65452 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one they're using? < 1422234236 604220 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1422234290 984382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1422234854 684626 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :solved it with 13. lets see how i can get to 12 < 1422234971 341194 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422235355 693520 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's the trick. < 1422235409 950491 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1422235623 833369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spoj is horrible with all those banners. (I usually use Adblock but I tried that site with fresh profile...) < 1422236101 377354 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422236134 961645 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e just found the solution too. spoj was counting the emptyspace too apparently... :-) < 1422236213 45532 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422236223 64162 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/int-e/int-e I < 1422236227 214771 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1422236248 308656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422236258 623408 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422236271 716448 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1422236362 621073 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422236498 297117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422236567 609256 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1422236835 723574 :arjanb!8259ac45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.172.69 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1422237321 346536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1422237336 305002 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422237434 15951 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422237451 98747 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1422237469 165025 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: I do indeed with one of the bots had a regex replacer < 1422237494 380329 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I do/cake < 1422237549 457613 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work anymore? < 1422237615 495522 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you even replace? < 1422237616 12325 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i mean, hell: making a really simple idea, but unpractical with the fnord < 1422237618 15631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you written a program to compile SQL codes into native codes or any other VM codes? < 1422237627 288471 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: too impratical. it has fnord. < 1422237680 598916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite can compile into its own VM codes if the schema (and possibly analysis data) is known, therefore other program could use the EXPLAIN command in SQLite to use a partially compiled code to compile into something else. < 1422237818 776941 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1422238033 240001 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422238064 685362 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422238075 419636 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1422238108 859807 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :This tickles my fancy < 1422238191 88817 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422238461 553982 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422238577 896135 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422240114 743152 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422240338 43934 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: REPRESENTATIVE CHICKEN < 1422242036 323723 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422244793 506974 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422244986 115374 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422244996 503541 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1422245433 328338 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1422245574 588185 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1422246440 115746 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422247317 556223 :Zefphex!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue NICK :Elizaveta < 1422247331 404405 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PART #esoteric :"{{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}}" < 1422247519 774418 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chat... *dramatic pause* ... HAS DIED! < 1422247570 47859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1422247582 517150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not quite so sure. < 1422247593 329999 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets zzo38 < 1422247717 360595 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good Kitty. < 1422247826 1025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to make up some Magic: the Gathering cards based on some stuff in my "level20.tex" story, and related things I have done; I already have "Kjugobe's Timer". < 1422247857 675518 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of this. < 1422247878 420519 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422247884 603805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must learn. How many things have you failed to heard of? < 1422247939 922203 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't the slightest idea. < 1422248032 349304 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422248653 246700 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422248896 936274 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if the newtons laws of motion went like this every thing has an equal and unequal reaction So if you punched a wall it would push you back with the force of a speeding truck < 1422248908 60901 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man the world would be crazy < 1422248947 375869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Imagine punching somebody so hard that they turned into a door. Then you found out that’s where ALL doors come from, and you got initiated into a murder club that makes doors. The stronger you punch, the better the door. So there are like super strong murderers who punch people into Venetian doors and shit." < 1422248971 712551 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1422248995 276246 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1422248997 870867 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god < 1422249015 85692 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes So much sense < 1422249030 322506 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense. One does not simply punch into more doors. < 1422249062 858235 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if all light liquified < 1422249069 56057 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it just splashed down < 1422249126 736242 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :punny. < 1422249164 380180 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets AndoDaan < 1422249168 535759 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :How was your day < 1422249189 811024 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unproductive, but quick. < 1422249207 729788 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/quick/quick to pass < 1422249232 439012 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yours? < 1422249265 287461 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1422249374 206149 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1422249822 80390 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422250139 36977 :Elizaveta!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue NICK :Lilax < 1422250169 354997 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip98-177-176-240.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1422251220 416889 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just explain the Door Lords from Adventure Time? < 1422251240 572237 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1422251343 459385 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's another power they have < 1422251345 961202 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since each door comes with a key, all the magic keys they have are from doors they made by punching people < 1422251426 238185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1422251690 790663 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1422252049 182276 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably really powerful ones out there with a huge bounty on their heads because of how many people they've taken down and how much they've stolen, and they have crazy, hard to open doors < 1422252092 779277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just be sneaky by punching people into trap doors < 1422252097 52850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what a great line for oerjan to join on < 1422252134 311894 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the real door lords < 1422252142 426551 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody can catch them < 1422252151 101472 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they are door lords < 1422252153 107335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats pan lords, I suppose < 1422252198 745857 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry for doing this to you oerjan < 1422252209 736079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok i mostly blame elliott < 1422252232 274277 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets oerjan < 1422252233 8104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :( < 1422252235 921150 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gud kitty < 1422252274 356401 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :So like how was your day All persons available < 1422252457 484419 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422252564 610766 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.39 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422253198 393022 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1422254346 420238 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 NICK :AndoDaan < 1422254678 765828 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422255563 457563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily -!- boily has quit (Quit: TRIGOTILLECTOMIC CHICKEN). <-- that's not a word, now you're just cheating tdnh < 1422255563 911521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1422255997 682975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : J_Arcane_: is your nick registered if so Set enforce and the ghost anyone using it <-- usually it's not someone else using it, but themselves disconnecting and reconnecting, and the old nick not being released fast enough < 1422256012 422219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so enforce won't help < 1422256029 719202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: some people have crappy connections < 1422256081 116060 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/M/Trigotillectomic M/' wisdom/boily < 1422256083 484267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1422256084 489670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspect "themselves" is ungrammatical in that sentence but doesn't know a better way < 1422256092 315046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1422256093 184937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. < 1422256122 151229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :approved. < 1422256397 153282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it parses okay to me < 1422256401 978920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little awkward maybe but eh < 1422256409 998006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I should sleep actually < 1422256410 746956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1422256417 977039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suspects < 1422256459 98367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems i and elliott are currently maximally out of phase < 1422256467 2075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just got up < 1422256523 26975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means my sleeping schedule is currently "normal" < 1422256758 569084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1422256819 92742 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1422256935 650897 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue NICK :Lilax|poof < 1422256975 396028 :Lilax|poof!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :u wot < 1422256980 767446 :Lilax|poof!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not gonna sleep < 1422256989 698908 :Lilax|poof!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought elliott went to bed < 1422257089 974267 :Lilax|poof!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now I'm just gonna < 1422257094 758850 :Lilax|poof!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue NICK :Lilax < 1422257968 737451 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422258120 155265 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422259287 802384 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets oerjan < 1422259299 346392 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's your day goin' < 1422259367 126173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not have clearance for that information hth < 1422259421 497909 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422259445 317194 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f JOIN :#esoteric < 1422259585 841111 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1422259589 494821 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1422259627 891055 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, when somebody uses the /// here, does that automatically corrected in the log? < 1422259645 974558 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that get* < 1422259676 231611 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1422259684 53835 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you asking < 1422259704 362186 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball < 1422259705 177293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signs point to yes. < 1422259722 965589 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1422259728 76973 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/1] then [//2] for the 2 / that are displayed < 1422259732 239174 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg; < 1422259736 463030 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :// < 1422259749 217688 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used three /'s to make 2 < 1422259756 696811 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :go see < 1422259760 179390 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wonder if there's any functionality to using on here ///, or if it's just visual. < 1422259764 799195 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1422259816 542977 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya AndoDaan < 1422259827 708091 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows // instead of /// < 1422259838 250664 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1422259845 181126 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the [/1] is the command / for irc < 1422259863 849300 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its not listed in logs since its only pinging the server from your client < 1422259876 172475 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nah it only shows // < 1422259904 548043 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/]// makes the first one invisible to logs < 1422259956 76842 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to make sure, I mean the http://esolangs.org/wiki//// sense of /// < 1422259978 751801 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellllll < 1422259987 168122 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL < 1422259991 636872 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check < 1422259996 422849 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I didn't think. < 1422260069 885348 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1422260072 741935 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1422260083 335171 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the s/word/replace/ < 1422260085 867240 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1422260092 888864 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye don't most bots have that < 1422260101 626338 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except everybot here < 1422260115 626124 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Your "probably not" probably still stands. < 1422260146 665104 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if we had something to test it < 1422260161 285394 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobar < 1422260167 57760 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't fungot have one? < 1422260167 627341 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: obviously there's the business of writing out let but in a different language to allow it to render outside the box? totally awesome. < 1422260173 953970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think [/1] is a IRC command? < 1422260182 862804 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: < 1422260193 838933 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/1] = / < 1422260199 347015 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :first slash < 1422260204 522384 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :then // < 1422260208 586925 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make /// < 1422260216 531782 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :which results in // < 1422260239 181778 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pardon my Spam < 1422260264 975659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I was on some IRC that did automatically correct people who typed s/whatever/whatever/ but it annoyed both me and whoever I was trying to communicate with; he had control over that bot so he disabled it. < 1422260326 690398 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422260372 252142 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/example/example/r/ on the bot I used replaced everything and would litterally spam all replaced words for that month < 1422260383 899832 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought maybe it could allow a user to make a quick ninja edit to mispelled sent chat line. < 1422260392 52144 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used litterally and probably spekt it wrong < 1422260437 322717 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean a replacer bot? < 1422260444 476724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the automatic fix (especially raw logs shouldn't automatic fix) it can cause problems if used improperly and that stuff < 1422260452 931950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: no, the bots do not. < 1422260459 207128 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422260481 847123 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stuff/thing bot: Lilax meant to say Things and stuff < 1422260485 76515 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that? < 1422260488 962345 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. I don't know why these type of questions pop in my mind. < 1422260496 972177 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :because magic < 1422260500 299657 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more liqe < 1422260503 921876 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1422260505 211984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: we had such a bot here a while ago. < 1422260516 288526 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/liqe/like < 1422260522 562263 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye < 1422260526 473341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't related to the logs, though. < 1422260533 147382 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what you meant? < 1422260553 420138 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you want a bot that corrects misspellings in the logs < 1422260563 537302 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be improbable < 1422260576 141346 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not want, but thought maybe. < 1422260581 42201 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :atleast almost impossible < 1422260617 995439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the logging bot itself could do that. also we have (at least) two of those. < 1422260653 272606 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since if I were to say sinfe the bot would have to figure out how many times I want that sinfe to be since then what would it do if I said sinfe two times but wanted it to correct it once < 1422260654 497544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also download it and then use a local program to perform the corrections < 1422260661 962351 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dat < 1422260669 895132 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that takes tiiiime < 1422260699 924258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would in any case not change the fact that everyone actually present will have _already seen the original_ < 1422260716 932483 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1422260726 236893 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good work scoob! < 1422260772 739710 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be cool to write something at would tried to interpret any and all possible esoteric code snippits found in the chat. < 1422260845 200561 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks. < 1422260974 762030 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1422261126 542076 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1422261189 501058 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 NICK :AndoDaan < 1422261269 600127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write IRC bot using C and SQLite. I don't have time right now but may do with in a week. Do you like this, or do you hate this, or both or neither? What is your opinion what you would want such thing doing? What question/complaint please? < 1422261341 299554 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats zzo38 < 1422261346 573490 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do what you want < 1422261362 113550 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its your choice we Support ye < 1422261368 568422 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without money < 1422261372 431854 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are poor < 1422261376 265900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, but I also just wanted to know if other people have opinion about it. < 1422261405 372287 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1422261408 8304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The money is not required; I do it for free. < 1422261416 625711 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fupixirwthxdyyue QUIT : < 1422261541 701674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the database contains no triggers then it would just send the NICK/USER/PASS/JOIN/MODE commands at the start and then make a log of everything it receives in the database (with one record per message received), but if you add triggers then you can make it to do different kind of stuff instead of or in addition to logging, such as to make up a chess game. < 1422261573 414506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this seems like properly to you? < 1422261735 475577 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything other than logging would have to be implemented by you. The user couldn't do anything then set and send triggers? < 1422262003 246313 :_AndoDaan!~AD@188.189.88.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422262011 288103 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.88.65 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1422262027 325874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Triggers would be included in the database schema; that is how SQL works. < 1422262048 881691 :_AndoDaan!~AD@188.189.88.65 NICK :Andodaan < 1422262419 416018 :Andodaan!~AD@188.189.88.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any risk of memory leakage, or unsanitary data with using C SQLite? < 1422262898 260053 :Andodaan!~AD@188.189.88.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422264168 350006 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422264265 5136 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably like, but I probably want to make an irc but myself eventually, to rewrite my ugly bots to a sane structure. < 1422264323 434084 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i have a mostly sane proof of concept implementation that handles all that server extension stuff that lets me follow who is logged in as what nickserv account, < 1422264343 47142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'll eventually need when I rewrite the cbstream bot (I use the codename "cbvapor" for the rewrite) < 1422264399 819433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I want to rewrite that initial implementation because it sucks, especially the way it's hardwired to work only with SASL login. < 1422264426 891629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I want to make the framework work (with reduced functionality) on irc networks other than freenode. < 1422264947 308521 :jameseb-!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :jameseb < 1422265539 72039 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422267329 293567 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw riscwars < 1422267333 329786 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live brainwars < 1422267340 381670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot < 1422267352 381382 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/i8YO5Bpq < 1422267380 292905 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I forget < and > < 1422267402 994000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ARM still count as a RISC cpu by the way? I knew it started as RISC, but since then they've added all kinds of nonsense extra instructions and modes that I'm not sure it still is one < 1422267428 406517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it still seems to have fewer hindering historical cruft on it than x86 < 1422267452 745854 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it's accumulating the historical cruft right now < 1422267459 674585 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1422267464 977456 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be patient and give it another ten years < 1422267480 893639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 had more of a head start (it started with z80 and whatever that other cpu is) < 1422267497 9071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM certainly has at least _some_ historical cruft too < 1422267522 270172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it quite similar to x86 actually: a flags register that has both arithmetic result status flags and processor mode control flags < 1422267557 960577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that always have to be the same register? < 1422267616 279402 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you use more than one register for that < 1422267623 438566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe so that it can be saved on the stack together in interrupt routines, but still, there's probably less need for that in ARM) < 1422267650 365926 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: would you rather they kept the flags in the program counter like they used to in older versions of ARM? < 1422267656 447126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: because it leads to nonsense like that writing (restoring) the flags register is a privilaged instruction even though you want to do it just to restore arithmetic flags < 1422267698 715827 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jameseb: I don't know really. < 1422267712 279015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1422267737 249752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :/0>\ is obviously probably the simplest program < 1422267742 609508 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see your point though, having access to arithmetic flags would make sense < 1422267750 321437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: and you can't just write a new value to the status register usually, but only by modifying an existing value, because it has flags you mustn't modify < 1422267754 962344 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISA lets you set the arithmetic flags directly as well. < 1422267792 987984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not giving an opinion now on whether there should be an arithmetic status flags register in first place, I'm just saying, if there is one, it should be separate from control flags < 1422267827 241301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at the MOS 6502 which does it right: < 1422267858 198645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an interrupt disable flag, but it's not in the status flags register < 1422267932 437369 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really matter since it's not a real register anyway, it's just a bunch of bits that happen to be listed in one register for convenience < 1422267933 486522 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides /\ which just idles around) < 1422267946 274932 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and given how on ARM, fewer instructions modify the flags register, and it has shadow registers for modes like the z80, it wouldn't even be essential to save it automatically when entering an interrupt < 1422267974 797082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike in the x86 where most instructions mess up the flags < 1422267988 812952 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ://>\0\ should scan until it reaches a non zero cell, set it to zero and continue < 1422268570 204191 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :.oO( Ubuntu 2025 "Faulty Fly" for armeb64, now with Jazelle-accelerated systemd! ) < 1422268946 381962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: so wait, what's this? < 1422268970 918053 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, s/Faulty Fly/Perfidious Pinworm/ < 1422268985 187304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: is this something like bfjoust but with a way more powerful instr set? < 1422269416 197782 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422269493 393275 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yep < 1422269497 690038 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no flag < 1422269506 342488 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to trick your opponent into executing NUL < 1422269511 768190 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a null byte) < 1422269578 881805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and programs are actually on the tape < 1422269598 135052 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can write self-replicating programs even < 1422269848 527667 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm thinking of adding an extra cost to loops < 1422269855 699112 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if the jump is taken it costs you an extra cycle < 1422269860 361978 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: um, is there a more complete description? < 1422269867 648489 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Not yet, but soon :) < 1422269890 798449 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still a WIP :) < 1422269899 982679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't there proper goto/comefrom instructions, whether with immediate label or computed, rather than these stupid loops only? < 1422269942 62393 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's brainfuck like? < 1422269950 48402 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or supposed to be at least < 1422269990 849309 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggestions are welcome If you have any < 1422271137 900702 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422272542 302063 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422273453 978803 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: technically because these just use the stack you can do computed jumps too < 1422273506 414212 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might mess up forward jumping :) < 1422273617 464666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@word scrozzle < 1422273629 145034 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it again... < 1422273635 235553 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1422273635 703377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5h 1m 11s ago: -!- boily has quit (Quit: TRIGOTILLECTOMIC CHICKEN). <-- that's not a word, now you're just cheating tdnh < 1422273678 538565 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan of couse I'm cheating! never let orthograph get in the way of a good sounding word, I say. < 1422273679 13567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1422273694 413256 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wp scrozzle < 1422273696 531247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "scrozzle". < 1422273700 128790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn scozzle < 1422273701 438216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "scozzle". < 1422273703 670639 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1422273734 655280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scrozzle.html < 1422274257 896706 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422274388 830282 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422274412 200168 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f JOIN :#esoteric < 1422274442 645134 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422274596 312894 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LEGITIMATE CHICKEN < 1422275508 861857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422275536 887454 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422276372 246195 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there no fucking image viewer for linux that lets you display multiple images in the same window < 1422276375 741189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1422276383 472686 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian probably has 5 image viewers pre-installed and none seem to be able to do that < 1422276567 913090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/CSYstxV.jpg < 1422276572 955364 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got inspired to play with image filters < 1422276587 856857 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there no good image viewer has been found so far to make side-by-side comparisons < 1422276604 675364 :kcm1700_!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422276647 871203 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1422276677 224574 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422276686 612942 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422276728 831570 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422276869 414961 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422276882 237399 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1422276914 631501 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422277459 290751 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this filter here takes hours for 640x480pix images < 1422278087 403714 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ it's so slooow < 1422278204 629728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: It's probably because you're supposed to do it the Unix way, and make up some sort of pipeline calling ImageMagick to put your images side-by-side. < 1422278221 957872 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422278331 60487 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422278597 164969 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1422279493 71918 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should use threads < 1422279501 348406 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's even taking too long for 256x128 < 1422280077 530651 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just create a HTML file with the layout you want. < 1422280156 820019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1422280160 399723 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now my filter runs on 8 cores < 1422280161 655819 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1422280183 679112 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, debian has at least five web browsers and probably none of them have proper colour handling (then again, do any of the image viewers?) < 1422280371 747019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it ran through < 1422280609 869708 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1422280612 86575 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lambdabot ok < 1422280672 30390 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: lambdabot works over (or did earlier) < 1422280684 71904 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/over/over here/ < 1422280691 665163 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 1 < 1422280693 596695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1422280708 696570 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1422280711 970331 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be just #haskell that has lambdabot broken < 1422280712 714438 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not respond to #haskell < 1422280720 294894 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know why < 1422280804 40680 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.pow(x,2); is apparentely faster than Math.pow(x,1) < 1422280886 868268 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1422281027 904564 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1422281157 889816 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/BBN78m8.png <- anyway. After minutes that what my filter did to the image < 1422281163 88096 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(left is original) < 1422281204 52268 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it blurs < 1422281337 601727 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1422281370 222009 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's somewhere in O(N^4) < 1422281543 824755 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(x^2*y^2) to be exact < 1422281558 685288 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 640*640*480*480 < 1422281560 369703 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 94371840000 < 1422281759 777448 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be O(wh) < 1422281780 846361 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1422281800 297809 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for regular blur maybe, yes < 1422282338 574209 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, Math.pow(x,2); is faster than Math.pow(x,n); for n = 1..10\2; < 1422282354 1636 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. for Math.pow(x,n) for n = 1..10; n = 2; is the fastest one < 1422282394 866955 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422282396 333533 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by faster I mean *really faster* < 1422282404 376964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a half hour faster < 1422282487 649886 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1422282498 556757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what does the filter look like? I believe the standard approach for this is to do 2D FFTs, and then it should become O(log(wh)wh) < 1422282513 979722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if you can't decompose things into box filters < 1422282524 800068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which are O(wh) each) < 1422282559 596650 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that assumes linear filters which are shift-invariant. maybe yours isn't < 1422282811 343945 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422282913 473396 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: http://codepad.org/uGxDOc8L < 1422282939 162267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how much faster Math.pow(x,2) really is < 1422282968 821331 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's using base 2 < 1422283167 98444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, using a for loop to pow is actually way faster :) < 1422283181 596592 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if n is an integer using a for loop is way faster than calling Math.pow < 1422283196 964172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... java? < 1422283221 988473 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422283242 5305 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1422283254 64533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty clear there's a special-case for x^2. < 1422283382 156341 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/5MZBlUjm < 1422283384 865349 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.pow vs for loop < 1422283388 521990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422283395 309227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422283433 654400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, n=4 and n=8 also take 10s < 1422283437 302517 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for pow < 1422283457 192235 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so looks like a special case for x^2 < 1422283491 586225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there's a java benchmark that does stuff like sqrt(pow(x,2)+pow(y,2)) < 1422283522 181443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, "public static native double pow(double a, double b);" < 1422283527 110237 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you try comparing pow(pow(x,2),2) against pow(x,4) ? < 1422283539 831703 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :pleas mroman_ < 1422283562 416184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java_java_lang_StrictMath_pow(JNIEnv *env, jclass unused, jdouble d1, jdouble d2) { return (jdouble) jpow((double)d1, (double)d2); } /* hmm */ < 1422283589 749092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't tell where "jpow" comes from, at least immediately. < 1422283609 971261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to make it call a real optimized hypot < 1422283723 340873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there it is. < 1422283768 414974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calls __ieee754_pow. < 1422283820 308074 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/6u1ZCdYg < 1422283828 954362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see the ^2 special case there, but it's quite possible I missed something while skipping through. < 1422283829 608282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- this is the fastest way to do pow so far I have found < 1422283832 464679 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even beats the for loop < 1422283840 159870 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, I have a rqeuest for compare < 1422283844 888067 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can benchmark it < 1422283857 448515 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I know a slightly faster algorithm for power < 1422283862 136357 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the binary expansion < 1422283880 692176 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.pow is probably not optimized for int < 1422283885 334036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1422283914 110752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, there it is. < 1422283928 149744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* special value of y */ if(hy==0x40000000) return x*x; /* y is 2 */ < 1422283931 18710 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^1011 = ((x^2)^2*x)^2*x < 1422283938 941522 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: And what would that request be? < 1422283942 993112 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you try comparing pow(pow(x,2),2) against pow(x,4) ? < 1422283956 546638 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just pow(x,2) against pow(x,4) < 1422283971 156016 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the result numbers will be equal < 1422283983 949604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: There's also a special case for x^0.5 to do sqrt(x). And there *should* also be a special case for 1.0, I don't know why you didn't observe that. < 1422284026 636549 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* y is +-1 */ < 1422284053 547508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422284086 8476 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible, horrible code. < 1422284121 73571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be inherited from Netlib. < 1422284130 944078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.netlib.org/fdlibm/ < 1422284159 472070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't know. That still has Sun's copyright notices in there. < 1422284282 178926 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I can < 1422284382 480434 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.pow(x,4) := 9904ms < 1422284408 710425 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422284422 240564 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math.pow(Math.pow(x,2),2) := 33ms < 1422284436 53417 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422284496 824345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my... http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/plain/src/system/libroot/posix/glibc/arch/x86/e_pow.S < 1422284523 946352 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, why did I find a haiku link first for a glibc file, but who cares) < 1422284554 550076 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the :EEEEE < 1422284557 918020 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats really weird < 1422284571 118422 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it migth just be sfaster because of smaller numbers < 1422284627 585076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :using myPow it's 7ms < 1422284654 515537 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, generally instead of writing Math.pow(x,3); you might as well just write x*x*x instead < 1422284661 755774 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :much, much faster :p < 1422284780 107855 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422284950 484757 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422285102 611790 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422285267 804144 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422285274 919313 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1422285308 499915 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422285449 352598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422285768 442013 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well... < 1422285775 714927 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either use some fancy algo or at least for loops :) < 1422285781 542060 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I've learnt today from Math.pow < 1422285982 70837 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1422286661 92028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422287214 679148 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eighty-twenty.org/2015/01/25/monads-in-dynamically-typed-languages/ < 1422287257 621324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you use such a pure concept in such an impure environment. < 1422287280 380424 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cgpourpnsumthzos QUIT : < 1422287348 284724 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article demonstrates how. ;) < 1422287433 428192 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use monad anywhere < 1422287453 653618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacking monads on top of other things < 1422287462 549038 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very intersting in scheme actually < 1422287471 52553 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have SHIFT/RESET delimited continuations < 1422287476 876547 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write monadic code in direct style < 1422287486 960077 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that people here still believe that I actually know what I'm talking about :p < 1422287505 795909 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the formal definition of a monad though < 1422287518 317762 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Yes, Heresy uses continuations to implement monad-like pure for/do loops. < 1422287544 226897 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rather proud of them, because they are evil. < 1422287557 205277 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But useful! < 1422287581 816227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that Functors preserve isomorphism. < 1422287588 157847 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should continue reading that book < 1422287639 932306 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work through REal World Haskell now, but I can't concentrate on anything. I had to close the main #haskell IRC too because every time I looked at it I just got self-conscious and depressed. XD < 1422287723 321677 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owqdzhemnxljmboz JOIN :#esoteric < 1422287914 185725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1422287914 467870 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422288048 277480 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422288981 219238 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422289125 260412 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Yeah, #haskell is kinda that way :) < 1422289128 816667 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so's #esoteric < 1422289134 987299 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that functor talk in here < 1422289139 842282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1422289140 801435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1422289141 978395 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1422289146 318750 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422289454 357780 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't mind here, because it's not so bad as all that. < 1422289461 823534 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1422289474 64954 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone recommend some simple logic programming thing which I could try? < 1422289482 273105 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to have a neat example code < 1422289487 537001 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this logic language supports =/= < 1422289492 304803 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :constraint < 1422289501 199863 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideas? < 1422289546 514338 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching #haskell though is like to give the impression that the only way to actually get anything done in Haskell is to have a CS Ph.D and spend all your time hacking hypermorphic pseodological type combinators of type Z-alpha-6 to work with Lenses. < 1422289566 42927 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1422290019 255400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: does it? you seem to be filtering the channel differently than I do < 1422290114 676894 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422290187 267958 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422290232 989011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really isn't, unless #haskell got a lot more advanced since I left. < 1422290258 283062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're projecting your existing preconceptions onto the channel. < 1422290258 623755 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with J_Arcane < 1422290295 471777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience #haskell is 90% easy beginner questions, maybe it changed < 1422290337 337078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: that's wrong. you have to get a maths PhD degree. a PhD degree in CS is worthless. < 1422290347 488612 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1422290365 920668 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@76.74.153.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422290366 112851 :jbkcc!~jbkcc@76.74.153.36 QUIT :Client Quit < 1422290378 416967 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a lot of walls of theoretical talk and high-level type wizardry and so forth; really that's what I see most of the time. < 1422290388 982403 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nothaskell is a little better, I find. < 1422290405 588834 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1422290448 842374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: but really, just because we talk about high-level type wizardy on the channel sometimes doesn't mean you have to know all that to write programs in haskell < 1422290466 977703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the channel is friendly and usually helps you if you ask actual questions < 1422290758 455719 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it psyches me out a bit sometimes is all; I *am* in fairness a bit self-conscious about feeling 'behind' when it comes to programming in general, and with Haskell in particular that gap can be very, very apparent. < 1422290803 999633 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, Why do you feel like you are behind in programming? < 1422290814 376602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbf the haskell community is elitist and awful in my extensive experience < 1422290820 440613 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I agree with elliott < 1422290847 592356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1422290854 905375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reverse 3-minute egg is coming < 1422290865 417025 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Because I'm 34 years old, haven't coded anything for over a decade until just within the past year. I'm effectively a newbie with a grown man's problems. :/ < 1422290871 950080 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ustralian chemists have figured out how to unboil egg whites" < 1422290895 36728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: at last you weren't embarrassing yourself on IRC from age 11 onwards < 1422290896 625851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1422290909 170816 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Haha. I was :) < 1422290947 784895 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I actually stayed away from programming for years because I'd largely convinced myself I wasn't good enough on the one hand, and also hated the languages that were most popular on the other. :P < 1422290960 654569 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I was a BASIC coder. So. There's that. < 1422290971 17881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :All popular languages suck. -- mroman < 1422290988 817905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day I will destroy the #esoteric logs < 1422290995 197143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody will remember teenage me < 1422291023 284258 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you technically still one? < 1422291077 420141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a few more months yeah < 1422291097 626253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was an xkcd pun btw.) < 1422291121 682023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well. I don't care about xkcd :p < 1422291150 391432 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1422291153 90473 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then ;) < 1422291158 785961 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna unboil me some eggs. < 1422291162 973813 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(afk) < 1422291184 715130 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :all laws of physics are reversible aren'tthey < 1422291187 848687 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Growing up with your favorite language being considered a pariah only barely elevated above that of COBOL by 'serious programmers' probably leaves some scars. XD < 1422291204 522471 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1422291211 469115 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, its a shame becuase its not even like other languages are any better < 1422291231 373186 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people mosty just repeat what they hear rather than think about it < 1422291248 283427 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djikstra's paper casts a large shadow which many coders indeed have largely repeated verbatim for decades. < 1422291261 205113 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't notice that at all < 1422291271 606101 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think everyone uses and recommends goto < 1422291281 382929 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is not to say that BASIC doesn't have some pretty large problems, just that I've been hearing about them for almost 20 years at this point ... < 1422291501 361461 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422291588 448646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422293037 974458 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a very good classification schema for programming languages < 1422293045 9289 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.) the length of the array is part of the type < 1422293051 531202 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b.) the length of the array is not part of the type < 1422293060 18687 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly 'a' languages suck < 1422293065 446773 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'b' languages are okayish < 1422293345 26650 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: welp, see you later. < 1422293383 705929 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422293430 703777 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :man fuck flow/float-out website menus < 1422293456 918687 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does CSS3 address those btw? < 1422293478 995464 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: I'll return < 1422293487 618882 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422293488 747773 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1422293499 614607 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: So, doesn't that mean both C and BASIC are equally terrible? ;) < 1422293565 409076 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has goto as well < 1422293568 185285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what if both is possible? < 1422293589 401312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, in Haskell or C++ < 1422293664 483371 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1422293737 109334 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422294232 206672 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422294325 919041 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://worrydream.com/#!/MeanwhileAtCodeOrg < 1422294353 560576 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wish people did not use #!/ < 1422294362 144810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://worrydream.com/MeanwhileAtCodeOrg/ < 1422294364 857446 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know im in for some web 4.0 shit < 1422294422 117671 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "talking of him"? < 1422294424 952090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that correct english? < 1422294426 126776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"code literacy"/"everyone should program" is such an awful concept < 1422294439 756616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: "talking about him" is probably smoother? what' the context? < 1422294441 117282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: then that's good < 1422294457 632908 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah. about sounds better. Thanks. < 1422294473 90404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what's < 1422294595 321489 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bcpwfudsjuimalhc QUIT : < 1422294607 249029 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ehoujkdxrjzstoql JOIN :#esoteric < 1422295083 783535 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owqdzhemnxljmboz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1422295462 958670 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1422295547 430998 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, #! < 1422295830 890205 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422295844 882947 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: How do you classify languages which don’t have arrays? < 1422295870 143465 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they are not languages < 1422295882 524003 :arjanb!8259ad04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.173.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422295912 974296 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1422296031 871779 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422296053 475978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great. first they make the web unusable, then they notice that they make the web invisible to crawlers, then they "fix" it, now I just have to wait for noscript&co to catch up. https://developers.google.com/webmasters/ajax-crawling/ < 1422296198 141427 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch up to what? < 1422296208 313700 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. to use the html snapshots etc? < 1422296239 694184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, just turn the #!-stuff into ?_escaped_fragment_= like google would < 1422296241 342101 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1422296280 559813 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: How about, arrays have the length in the type, but it is trivial to wrap them so it disappears? < 1422296305 746954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about C which has some lengths in array types? < 1422296451 191211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: tbf people have moved away from #! now that there are actual history APIs for javascri < 1422296454 188536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*javascript < 1422296461 209923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that google #! thing is basically a deprecated stopgap < 1422296467 389374 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1422296468 638835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because twitter used #! for a while or whatever and it was a disaster < 1422296830 240503 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1422296838 188554 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you should use framesets < 1422296853 761197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1422296873 705140 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :framesets are actually exactly that < 1422296878 766673 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they prevent reloading the whole page < 1422296892 232562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can just reload the content frame when you click on a link inside it < 1422296914 962179 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does html5 even have framesets :D? < 1422296917 257144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not. < 1422296929 705800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff. no < 1422296940 23939 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we try to make CoolHTML a standard < 1422296993 865606 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422297017 437858 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422297339 284146 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1422297358 937456 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1422297437 931841 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422297791 317342 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422298772 59379 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422298853 755789 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422298869 916124 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422299250 318401 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1422299312 387923 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1422299633 313767 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422300454 392970 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422300514 997852 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: welp, see you later. < 1422300546 653559 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422300758 939565 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6163683/cycles-in-family-tree-software < 1422300761 949522 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1422301005 56082 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent explanation for this. < 1422301048 830432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a) tracking historical lineages in aristrocratic families. or b) tracking lineages in a computer game. < 1422301516 751638 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PRIVMSG #esoteric :genealogical software isn't about awarding points for the best looking trees, just tracking reality. It's surprising that it didn't occur to someone writing that kind of software to handle that case < 1422301543 530070 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other than that it's just a zombie post < 1422301595 717756 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422301954 833303 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it did occur to them < 1422302047 577215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, English, how I hate thee. < 1422302122 645862 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course "someone writing [...]" meant that particular someone, not any someone (like Bert Goethals below who clearly did consider all these things) < 1422302215 467431 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, otherwise I'd have gone with "anyone" < 1422302311 782503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a matter of emphasis to me, and ASCII sucks at transporting that. Oh and English is not my native tongue. < 1422302395 961969 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Bert's existence ruled out the "anyone" interpretation ^_^ < 1422302491 64673 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... oh look! A butterfly! < 1422302679 415327 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422302798 588510 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/naturelibrary/images/ic/credit/640x395/l/la/large_blue_butterfly/large_blue_butterfly_1.jpg < 1422302833 693182 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkrtytzxabtgbcun QUIT : < 1422302856 898322 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422302868 687186 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aylomlkjqgfhdusw JOIN :#esoteric < 1422303489 192444 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422303890 986811 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1422304265 645742 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422304289 265409 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:c087:4c03:9978:c72f JOIN :#esoteric < 1422305258 360761 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422305315 722574 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422305596 49596 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1422305787 388127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will make an ESOSC draft for CoolHTML < 1422305845 681361 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybee CoolStylesheets < 1422306006 752574 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422306141 271893 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoolHTML? < 1422306177 101508 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422306197 670724 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1422306307 471698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: HTML but cooler. < 1422306315 316354 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by cooler I mean more user friendly < 1422306332 789093 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by user I mean people like me < 1422306336 989103 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by more user friendly, you mean esoteric? < 1422306338 287371 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by friendly I probably mean friendly < 1422306374 322150 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :First of all no flash, no javascript < 1422306396 335010 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's HTML focused on content < 1422306416 668867 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a scripting language that only allows scripts that can be formally proven to terminate. proof has to be attached? < 1422306425 941467 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: make sure it has a blink tag. < 1422306801 156612 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422306973 115250 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : i had the idea eaarlier while in the WC of a virtual machine built around the idea of 'everything not false is true' a la Scheme. < 1422307224 851359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the blink tag should be aperiodic, to make it cool.) < 1422307465 945446 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422307648 360820 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422307656 735286 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1422308716 80917 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1422309384 588560 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422309793 545731 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: blink isn't content, so... no < 1422309887 876696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you could have it display a message in morse code < 1422310326 354222 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422310414 432452 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, that's what has been tripping me up. "`electric-indent-mode' is now enabled by default." < 1422310427 692614 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1422310604 51851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, that's an emacs change? < 1422310608 485035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why < 1422310616 278964 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 24.4, yes < 1422310624 95265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks rms < 1422310715 738725 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1422310736 835290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm used to breaking lines by placing the point (^) in front of a space, "abc^ def", and then pressing enter and delete... resulting in "abc\nef" with electric-indent-mode. < 1422310773 300187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course I should rely on auto-fill-mode instead... oh well) < 1422311743 971155 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: welp, see you later. < 1422312364 76065 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1422312378 175695 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422312612 115686 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mgxaeqdjazalcghl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422312626 201301 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422312701 579970 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xvrdrwrtjrpnsmmv JOIN :#esoteric < 1422313758 500425 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1422313977 62047 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422314066 455561 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422314140 386616 :Bixnode!~owner@enter-your.pw JOIN :#esoteric < 1422314271 341347 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422314276 884428 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422314370 562502 :^v!~notnot^v@198.109.114.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422314685 161380 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422314693 40636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422314990 306585 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1422315015 423397 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1422315108 280133 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1422315495 461212 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1422315502 428905 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1422315502 978174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1422315573 750756 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1422315623 270831 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422315685 294664 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422315810 116778 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422315852 561335 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422315978 177866 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1422316055 33406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: https://www.reddit.com/r/Prismata/comments/2trg0q/in_approximately_60_minutes_at_5pm_est_well_have/ < 1422316063 692746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err where's shachaf < 1422316178 482930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly would CoolHTML do? Might it be better to just support pod? < 1422316185 496248 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422316378 167207 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekNomz < 1422316461 624295 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric