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< 1420265065 632523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read somewhere that they originally wanted planeswalker cards to be another player but didn't because they couldn't choose anything. So, its controller makes all of their choices instead (unless the card says otherwise), would work, I think. < 1420265107 680374 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets lazy and just slaps style attributes on stuff
< 1420265504 147882 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 NICK :TheM4ch1n3 < 1420265504 230638 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Changing host < 1420265504 230751 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420265855 471720 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1420265897 737754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting to think Google Maps is created in Australia < 1420265905 70479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much documentation uses that as a default location < 1420265918 312986 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is actually true < 1420266226 140947 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(according to http://www.google.com/about/careers/locations/sydney/) < 1420266346 274846 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1420266555 686377 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420266555 925204 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1420266738 368251 :PixelToast!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ac49:bdf3:9a7d:888 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420267171 661533 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 NICK :TheM4ch1n3 < 1420267171 704793 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Changing host < 1420267171 704907 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420267254 160001 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1420269420 194126 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1420269457 283508 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. Javascript does the sucky thing with closures and loop indexes, right? < 1420269643 60249 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420269779 108698 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420270044 589218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering, what happens if a spell has more than one Epic ability? < 1420270140 625536 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that can't happen. but you can resolve multiple epic spells, and when that happens, you get copies of both < 1420270147 328771 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing that would make them mutually exclusive < 1420270191 669316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that but it isn't what I was asking. < 1420270238 867297 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well to answer your question precisely, by the principle of explosion, anything < 1420270255 285839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if a single spell has multiple Epic abilities. Would one of these happen (and which one)? [a] It is the same as one Epic ability. [b] You get two copies, each with no Epic ability. [c] You get two copies, each with one Epic ability; these copies would then each create a copy with no Epic ability. < 1420270303 847379 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question isn't well-defined, though. < 1420270397 278970 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game rules don't have an answer for "what would happen?" because it cannot < 1420270610 219908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if a new card is made up then it might be possible. < 1420270615 205845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You mean if a card said e.g. "Epic. Epic."? < 1420270619 743032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1420270651 139276 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: True, but in such a case, they would consider the "Epic. Epic." interaction and devise the rules appropriate. < 1420270654 250842 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*appropriately < 1420270655 510179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mean. < 1420270668 930425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"copy this spell except for its epic ability" is unclear when there's more than one epic ability. < 1420270684 187333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if such a card was printed they'd amend the rules to clarify this. < 1420270690 94391 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1420270693 451786 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1420270711 642528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in this sense the rules aren't quite comprehensive. < 1420270720 168785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should write to them and ask them to clarify this point. < 1420270734 77750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes I also thought it is unclear when there is more than one. < 1420270735 855589 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are comprehensive < 1420270756 445724 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do not cover situations which cannot occur < 1420270758 509329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cover every printed card, but not every printable card using existing keywords. < 1420270814 220600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you programmed a computer to follow the rules of Magic: the Gathering, what will be done in such a case even if there are no such cards? < 1420270840 203465 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably [b] or [c] < 1420270876 896840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When interpreting rule 702.49a, perhaps I'd insert a check that a card had only one epic ability. < 1420270887 539464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So such a card would simply be invalid. < 1420270905 251804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would just make rule [c] applicable. < 1420270925 784566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that is what the existing rules actually mean, though, for sure!!! < 1420270969 129145 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, it doesn't matter, they don't mean anything in this scenario < 1420270990 168216 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a faulty premise < 1420270990 794178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Epic spells even good? < 1420271005 927928 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Enduring Ideal saw play, and Eternal Dominion is hilariou < 1420271008 30284 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hilarious < 1420271009 707255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used them. < 1420271046 22043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way cards refer to themselves by name is awful. < 1420271050 596040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you even do that? < 1420271119 396488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any of y'all played Prismata? < 1420271130 410526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess other than Sgeo. < 1420271132 427324 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not. I have met one of the designers though. < 1420271146 228779 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played against a human yet < 1420271154 751742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did beat Adept bot once < 1420271166 638309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adept? < 1420271169 914354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that 7s? < 1420271194 550480 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, weaker, I think < 1420271225 936450 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's listed just below 'Basic bot' saying "Improved defense" < 1420271243 136925 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420271246 181176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one. < 1420271287 215250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo just play against 7s < 1420271382 833759 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420271383 502937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once as a kind of joke I made up a card that only has Epic ability and does nothing else. < 1420271484 888814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How about Epic Sorcery -- Arcane? < 1420271559 890472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, Epic isn't a supertype. < 1420271571 803718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorcery -- Arcane, with only the ability Epic < 1420271825 129366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would that do? < 1420271855 491339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used Arcane spells either. < 1420271865 256462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would probably be pretty bad hth < 1420271965 215181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I will play a game with you if you want. < 1420271970 210705 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure < 1420271973 801572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Sgeo on Prismata < 1420272022 879340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh, a timed match. :-( < 1420272047 516600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You choose < 1420272062 620509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make it Relaxed. < 1420272065 729324 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1420272122 951137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have to choose the format too (if possible)? < 1420272148 287959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Format? < 1420272229 498351 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't assume I know what I;m doing' < 1420272294 392196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Format such as Constructed/Limited as well as what sets are being played. < 1420272331 295445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we chose the default. < 1420272345 817620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no Constructed in Prismata. One doesn't build decks. < 1420272372 359530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1420272484 482887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo will probably win. < 1420272498 319815 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is probably delusion if he thinks that's true < 1420272540 154577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't nearly aggressive enough, as usual. < 1420272588 64384 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420272621 204567 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1420272621 259135 :PixelToast!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ac49:bdf3:9a7d:888 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1420272662 210605 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx JOIN :#esoteric < 1420272662 614035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm less sure... < 1420272723 299122 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo shachaf < 1420272729 588682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....Why isn't my Iceblade defeding < 1420272743 176816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's not Blocker. WHy was I convinced it was < 1420272793 116482 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just lose a turn on time? < 1420272802 734177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1420272850 602306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was in terrible shape but I didn't realize you stopped at 9 drones. < 1420272908 96637 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also time < 1420272968 495452 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure I lost < 1420272978 855406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1420273006 973983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you build an Auride Core? < 1420273073 334623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one, I mean. < 1420273084 59997 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420273089 417157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I couldn't think of anything else to do with my blue that turn < 1420273120 172806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were playing very aggressively, right? < 1420273127 808567 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1420273128 594120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stopping at 9 drones to build attackers as soon as possible. < 1420273133 584433 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking off < 1420273168 982198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you played this game? You might like it. < 1420273177 944191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires Adobe Macromedia Shockwave Flash. < 1420273194 938847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that requirement is why I haven't yet recommended it to a friend who I think would like it < 1420273199 414870 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420273208 844582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: Prismata < 1420273238 223197 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it play in gnash? < 1420273256 664921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Are you able to find out? < 1420273261 770128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://play.prismata.net/?demo < 1420273362 782847 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whew < 1420273373 240282 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a back up of my server < 1420273382 447363 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its 3 years old < 1420273384 858925 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1420273500 424964 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try later, but I'm guessing this game uses hardware accelerated graphics < 1420274089 263978 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is the lambdabot library < 1420274178 352278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Do you want to play another game? < 1420274189 80182 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I should probably sleep soon < 1420274641 921757 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1420274970 238384 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1420275260 210043 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1420276350 71015 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx PRIVMSG #esoteric :what woukd you do if you got your house swooced? < 1420276468 274323 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420277391 919182 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1420278117 569519 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-noqcrantbpgzqvdb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1420279687 66776 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420280116 388668 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420281545 261686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1420282515 253498 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1420283252 64635 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420283360 347950 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420283691 740608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420283751 911311 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420283994 924446 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420284929 244383 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1420286834 393636 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1420286990 204247 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420287751 779206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to activate an Equip ability if the permanent that has it is not an artifact or equipment for some reason? < 1420287812 544208 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :As expected, the prismata demo doesn't load in gnash < 1420288559 485569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect that you are allowed to activate such an Equip ability, but that it won't get attached to anything if it is not a Equipment, Fortification, or Aura. < 1420289762 162319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1420289866 740706 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1420290012 943202 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvqfnoyisfymvfzx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1420290023 75447 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420290888 148860 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, the F# documentation is fucking Microsoft all the way ... :/ < 1420290933 883358 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss Hoogle and Racket docs ... < 1420291215 109527 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-49-198.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1420291342 803706 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-49-198.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1420292397 82905 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420292507 60568 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420294757 70330 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1420294927 857176 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420295006 903648 :huerte!~corsee@90.174.3.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420295185 112168 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420295423 279315 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420295472 852384 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-grriyeawcbhtzaje QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1420296526 751355 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1420296712 786421 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1420296880 228788 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420297376 313633 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1420297781 207275 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.86.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420297846 167040 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420298510 616931 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420298647 70099 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420298939 555853 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420298959 200101 :huerte!~corsee@90.174.3.123 QUIT :K-Lined < 1420298992 547942 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420299117 103349 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.86.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1420299426 254183 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420299559 284165 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420300334 630700 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420300801 533306 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420301048 845393 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1420301068 448949 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1420301068 492275 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1420301495 601013 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420301640 516231 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ufqdfvnogpcikiir JOIN :#esoteric < 1420302174 115164 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1420302289 356658 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1420302762 650669 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... how about adding the perl wats of the c3 talk to the esolang page? < 1420303042 569474 :jenny13!~jenny13@koln-4d0b1aa5.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1420303358 591293 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello. what's a wat? < 1420303374 812847 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1420303519 672790 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2014/31c3_-_6243_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412292200_-_the_perl_jam_exploiting_a_20_year-old_vulnerability_-_netanel_rubin.html < 1420304017 523234 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How old is this < 1420304058 505223 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the talk is a few days old < 1420304101 19702 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :oww < 1420304255 529386 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1420304544 478578 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420304633 754551 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. a wat. ow. < 1420304780 763250 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does using GitHub Pages imply that my client-side code is open-source? < 1420304781 269743 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lists abused. < 1420304789 431512 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of me died inside when i saw that. < 1420304794 49744 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg ever Perl application ever. < 1420304811 399433 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if this guy has more. < 1420304828 749569 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1420306213 662057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1420306235 717038 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1420306236 107013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 031700Z 03003KT 350V090 30SM FEW010 FEW095 SCT130 BKN220 M18/M24 A3067 RMK SC1AC1AC2CI4 SC TR PRESFR SLP393 < 1420306260 898135 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. < 1420306345 559642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420306401 211325 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is terrible. < 1420306453 717346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.38.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420306469 300588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.38.241 QUIT :Changing host < 1420306469 344353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1420306907 609491 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1420307250 496416 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, what is his accent? < 1420307260 565420 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1420307271 66763 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bit hard to follow imo < 1420307346 805373 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420307368 529575 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Changing host < 1420307368 573008 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1420307390 884202 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1420307391 422428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 031720Z VRB02KT 6000 RA FEW005 SCT030 BKN045 02/02 Q1020 R08/19//95 NOSIG < 1420307565 637489 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1420307747 164513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1420307747 668389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 031750Z 04005KT 360V070 9999 BKN010 04/03 Q1023 TEMPO SCT012 < 1420307814 924776 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh to you all with positive temperatures. humbug! < 1420307826 462482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLC < 1420307826 851200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLC 031750Z AUTO VRB03KT 9999 SCT010/// 05/03 Q1023 < 1420307831 54887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's I guess technically closer. < 1420307853 617971 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have bo idea what this stuff is < 1420307869 393187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weather reports. < 1420307886 50892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The four-letter codes are the ICAO airport identifiers. < 1420307886 145479 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellx ää, i figured that out < 1420307890 737072 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1420307900 523786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLC and EGLL are London City and Heathrow, respectively. < 1420307936 527312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EG in general is something like Europe, Great Britain, I suppose, given that EF.. are in Finland and so on.) < 1420307965 71502 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :E??? are Europe, with L??? being the other Europe. < 1420307977 470293 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1420307980 824423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meta CYCC < 1420307981 372443 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1420307983 630888 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meta CYYC < 1420307984 164688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYC 031700Z 01009KT 5SM -SN OVC055 M19/M22 A3034 RMK SC8 SLP379 < 1420307999 807056 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1420308000 254515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 031700Z 04010KT 30SM OVC120 M12/M20 A3062 RMK AS8 SLP374 < 1420308003 486013 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I interpret this? < 1420308020 666936 :arjanb!8259aab8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420308048 560917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :03 is the date, and 1700Z the time. < 1420308055 600110 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Calgary International Airport, report made on the third at 5:00pm UTC. winds of 9 knots coming from about North. ground visibility 5 miles. < 1420308075 825678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to continue, but boily has made me obsolete. < 1420308083 718130 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lightly snowing, cloud ceiling at 5,500'. it's currently -19 °C, dew point at -22. < 1420308097 634961 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sorry, was typing and didn't see your reply... < 1420308155 431129 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atmospheric pressure calibrated for the aerodrome is at 30.62 inHg, clouds are altostratii, and sea level pressure is at 1037,4 hPa. < 1420308165 789501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite all right. I'm trying to do some dinner, anyway. < 1420308176 363240 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is altostratii the correct plural of an altostratus?) < 1420308183 579773 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh! what are you cooking? < 1420308187 448213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ßuch stuff i don't care < 1420308191 855432 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meta CYKF < 1420308192 469971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYKF 031742Z AUTO 10013KT 1/2SM -SN VV008 M02/M03 A3008 RMK PRESFR SLP204 < 1420308194 358762 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much < 1420308203 501564 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the 'auto' mean? < 1420308216 1294 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: how do you manage to mistype an ß with an m??? < 1420308231 55812 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that the report was made by an automated machine, with no human intervention. < 1420308232 29931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nothing particularly interesting, just some pasta and tomato-based meat thing. I don't really know how this kitchen works yet, anyway. < 1420308255 345972 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: multiling beta keyboard for android with a german layout < 1420308284 815088 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomato-based meat < 1420308331 514882 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: such is life. < 1420308365 967935 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: weather doesn't look so good on your end. thing is it's going to subtly drift East and cover us tomorrow. < 1420308388 780699 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i like it since it has bigger keys than hacker's keyboard while having symbols easily reachable < 1420308430 609207 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my new phone, I'm still trying to type symbols as on my old one. damned muscle memory... < 1420308540 214263 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm going YCC -> YKF on Monday < 1420308650 826862 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never went to either of those places. my West bound ends at around YYZ. < 1420308799 574810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with canadian airport names starting with Y < 1420308821 697550 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y do they do that? < 1420308831 683654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's too many airports and too few three-letter combinations so they started using riddiculous ones < 1420308848 271373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly too many airlines for two-alnum codes < 1420308924 151515 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Canada just dibbsed Y I guess < 1420308935 126024 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they would get something consistent < 1420309601 33944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should just fix that rule < 1420309617 153575 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1420309625 27210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1420309631 709318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to play another game < 1420309682 568079 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1420309714 272004 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a birthday party to attend soon < 1420309720 848409 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe later tonight or tomorrow < 1420309736 482610 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1420309738 453378 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I need to learn how to not suck < 1420309776 958581 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it involve dismemberment < 1420310219 523236 :PixelToast!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ac49:bdf3:9a7d:888 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420310221 146547 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1420310810 68799 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1420311808 730128 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1420311868 325196 :PixelToast!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ac49:bdf3:9a7d:888 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1420311890 332226 :PixelToast!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ac49:bdf3:9a7d:888 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420312474 282042 :tswett_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1420312541 52351 :tswett_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Client Quit < 1420312546 642421 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1420312559 77065 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1420312562 682693 :tswett_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1420312617 713070 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1420312738 788205 :tswett_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Client Quit < 1420312879 858932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1420314020 41995 :jenny13!~jenny13@koln-4d0b1aa5.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1420314041 253753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nice hagb4rd < 1420314078 948529 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott. is hagb4rd using aliases and puppets? < 1420314090 284202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the past like 18 months yeah :P < 1420314494 148351 :scounder!~scounder@unaffiliated/scounder NICK :fractal < 1420314697 845039 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am trying to improve the speed of some horrible code I wrote myself and don't want to show anyone else < 1420314843 682270 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it slow? < 1420314916 644268 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila, I do not know < 1420314945 590806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make the slow go away < 1420315124 173018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: first, identify which is the slow part. then rewrite the whole thing anyway. < 1420315132 231260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ask the magic 8-ball for hints < 1420315138 56294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is Taneb's code slow? < 1420315138 614075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1420315144 209092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, much better already < 1420315192 866172 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball ARE YOU SURE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS PRETTY DAMNED SLOW TO ME < 1420315193 409892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1420315202 889917 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, :( < 1420315240 508105 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Are you rigged < 1420315240 973170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I see it, yes. < 1420315245 696811 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNEW IT < 1420315356 390685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi taneb < 1420315362 330887 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi quintopia < 1420315370 682227 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well are you going to show the code? < 1420315380 273476 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: profile it < 1420315390 656518 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila, no, I'm not in a position to < 1420315394 295445 :TetrisMcKenna!~TetrisMcK@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/tetrismckenna JOIN :#esoteric < 1420315394 769930 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I have been doing so < 1420315402 581071 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I can help make it faster then < 1420315404 972243 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It now runs twice as fast < 1420315409 782299 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :run your code on smaller problems so the slow part goes faster < 1420315423 571887 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, unfortunately I need to run it on bigger problems < 1420315546 672477 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as usual, the way to get answers on IRC is to post your incorrect answer (= the slow code) and get it corrected < 1420315595 449207 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1420315601 632464 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I more want sympathy than answers < 1420315668 880013 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have sympathy? < 1420315669 246342 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i fucking hate this package. it wouldn't have to be instantiated twice if something else simply requires a. < 1420315675 328708 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody hurts sometimes < 1420316150 362846 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.71.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420317225 60364 :TetrisMcKenna!~TetrisMcK@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/tetrismckenna PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1420317275 341057 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqpguahoeidgmmjc JOIN :#esoteric < 1420318305 785074 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1420318359 681349 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which languages have as their only flow control construct the ability to modify previous commands and rerun all succeeding commands in lieu of the update? < 1420318507 419678 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1420318637 803455 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pepijndevos.nl/2015/01/03/branch-free-fizzbuzz-in-assembly.html < 1420318772 101194 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1420318877 726686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that be a good thing? < 1420318877 837828 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but not with < 1420318888 462619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, never mind. < 1420318888 594508 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ' new immigrants' made me think of endless hours of painful debugging, though it doesn't < 1420318903 746656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you being a little bit racist there? < 1420318903 878759 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when it performs a divide by 2 instruction would make it feasible ( i think i'm a level 2 emacs web surfer!" < 1420318975 463847 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot comes out in support of ukip < 1420318975 570820 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: err made in bf. has anybody written a pattern description language to it from? < 1420319005 198259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newsflash: UKIP made in BF. < 1420319029 76471 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1420319046 539549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how's london? < 1420319171 83923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know how to summarize, and we haven't had much time to do more than arrive, have some luggage-related adventures and get acquainted with the temporary apartment, which has both pros and cons. < 1420319182 252132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, it's only a temporary place.) < 1420319187 211397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the hole too deep < 1420319197 547158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looked bigger in the photos, is the thing. < 1420319224 921458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With this many suitcases, it's not especially roomy. But it's bigger than our hole in Belgium was, and we spent a month there just fine. < 1420319364 690252 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1420319399 849707 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm installing a new debian system on my home machine and haasd quite a scare < 1420319407 719494 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm b_jonas) < 1420319415 687125 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The installer wouldn't detect my hard disks < 1420319439 678076 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When loading the hard disk controller kernel module, it complained about some sort of unresolved symbosl < 1420319455 250910 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily after upgrading the installer image the problem seems to be gone < 1420319477 74673 :rade!~rade@unaffiliated/rade QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1420319478 413622 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hope it was a bug in the older installer rather than a hardware problem with my motherboard < 1420319533 242062 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm doing the installation. I hope they fixed it so this time it lets me continue the installation steps without insisting on installina bootloader < 1420319549 822977 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to manage the boot loader myself, thank you very much < 1420319581 261706 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1420319581 817197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1420319594 802372 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so at least the messages go through < 1420319645 547226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :north carolina jonas? < 1420319656 653422 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcat jonas < 1420319690 299540 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm in the middle of an installer with only a busybox rescue system < 1420319711 478837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian installer has that SSH client module thing. < 1420319720 142994 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not worth to get anything more complicated up during the installation, it's quick anyway < 1420319738 761204 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but it's only like twenty minutes anyway < 1420319803 287894 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, netcat ircing from the installer is some sort of a tradition I have, it makes me feel I'm doing the install procedure properly < 1420319820 403013 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also used to retrieve webpages with, uh, curl or whatever it has < 1420319840 544781 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget < 1420319855 481458 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it _would_ be only twenty minutes or less if I didn't irc during it < 1420320136 465258 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1420321217 768193 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1420321593 83265 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1420321660 393412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1420322219 327694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (is altostratii the correct plural of an altostratus?) <-- normally -us for an adjective would just turn into one -i < 1420322228 966163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to check if that's actually an adjective < 1420322272 8573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's a noun it _might_ still do that, but could also be 3rd or 4th declination) < 1420322303 40402 :nc_jonas!~x@5401B06A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1420322885 741640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stratus can be either 1st-2nd declination past participle adjective or 4th declination verbal noun. both of those have their dictionary forms formed by adding -us to the past participle stem. < 1420322930 143506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the english as well, the former seems to be what the actual cloud nomenclature uses http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stratus < 1420325115 328442 :rade!~rade@unaffiliated/rade JOIN :#esoteric < 1420325337 272452 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1420325360 738745 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmph < 1420325489 791423 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I have had ello for all of 8 hours and I found a bug already. < 1420325654 835034 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello world < 1420325655 356199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ello: not found < 1420325683 277165 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elcome < 1420325684 546097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: elcome: not found < 1420325806 768744 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Wierd < 1420325807 301018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.'et.) < 1420325822 214786 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :their code for rendering code boxes is broken. < 1420325835 727456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old irc.dal.'et. < 1420325868 50212 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So while it does support Markdown, funny stuff happens when using certain symbols inside of backtick boxes (in this case, all my >'s in a code sample became >) < 1420325893 920021 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda uglifies a language like F#: https://ello.co/jarcane/post/5r4nyJcdI0xRN4aZzCvv8A < 1420325911 157671 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'welcome "$@" | sed s/\\\<.//g' > bin/elcome < 1420325913 567690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1420325918 863022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elcome me < 1420325919 289331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/elcome: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/elcome: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1420325930 963712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/elcome < 1420325932 796947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1420325935 361414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elcome me < 1420325936 151772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e: elcome o he nternational ub or soteric rogramming anguage esign nd eployment! or ore nformation, heck ut ur iki: . (or he ther ind f soterica, ry #soteric n rc.al.et.) < 1420325997 293009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps make it specific to at least having a vowel as the second character. < 1420326043 543195 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does what I wanted. < 1420326049 300790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to modify. < 1420326083 631757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | perl -pe "s/\b\w([aeiou])/'\$1/g" < 1420326084 486251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'elcome 'o the international 'ub 'or esoteric programming 'anguage 'esign and 'eployment! 'or 'ore information, check 'ut 'ur 'iki: . ('or the other 'ind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.'al.'et.) < 1420326106 187148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a matter of taste. < 1420326171 975083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | perl -pe "s/\b\w+([aeiou])/'\$1/g" < 1420326172 732803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'e 'o 'e 'al 'ub 'or 'ic 'ing 'e 'ign and 'ent! 'or 'e 'on, 'eck 'ut 'ur 'i: . ('or 'e 'er 'ind of 'a, try #'ic on irc.'al.'et.) < 1420326182 359533 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, right. stupid... < 1420326193 413956 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :'angs.org < 1420326359 579717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that this is the best place for 'ic 'ing. < 1420326376 691189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why does that sound dirty?) < 1420326441 818530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | perl -pe "s/\b(?:(?"\!"[aeiouAEIOU])\w)+([aeiou])/'\$1/g" < 1420326442 658206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'elcome 'o 'e international 'ub 'or esoteric 'ogramming 'anguage 'esign and 'eployment! 'or 'ore information, 'eck out our 'iki: . ('or 'e other 'ind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.'al.'et.) < 1420326477 259185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is horrible, there must be better way to take the difference of \w and vowels...) < 1420326714 88398 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.71.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420326849 70985 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.71.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1420327019 818871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly (?[\w-[aeiouAEIOU]]) -- untested -- using the experimental extended bracketed character classes from 5.18+. < 1420327037 263502 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw JOIN :#esoteric < 1420327063 830870 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make it so your bot doesn't run off your account cuz that's like all I can do atm < 1420327073 828566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not on HackEgo, though.) < 1420327100 306348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's still in 5.14.x.) < 1420327130 260523 :digitalcool!~redacted@192.73.232.206 NICK :digitalcold < 1420327211 690677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1420327329 646768 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[^[:^alpha:]aeiou] works for perl < 1420327474 419504 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, [^[:^word:]aeiouAEIOU] < 1420327531 739057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, [^\WaeiouAEIOU] < 1420327592 349980 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you guys talking about? < 1420327701 949620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :matching non-vowel letters (or word constituents, the rules aren't entirely clear) in a regex < 1420327779 575378 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh argh I'll have to sleep on this before I do something rash < 1420327795 997101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Alikberov 5* 10New user account < 1420327807 668516 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try it out < 1420327833 990354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: what OS? < 1420327863 134764 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch < 1420327876 250440 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh but I'm switching soon < 1420327921 499339 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :any good linux alternates? < 1420327927 801018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qnx < 1420327930 655019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beos < 1420327935 739188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedos < 1420327939 326478 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! "ARCHOS is a pioneer in Android tablets, portable audio and video player market that has repeatedly revolutionized the consumer electronics market since 1988." (I know Arch Linux, but I curiously googled "Arch OS") < 1420327943 528516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorforth < 1420327960 24852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :k/os. hope this helps < 1420327965 60165 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric : [^aeiouAEIOU] ? < 1420327983 914558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: that will match whitespace and a lot of other things that don't appear in words. < 1420327998 1572 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1420328008 399469 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on < 1420328026 644409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently in Linux at boot time when specifying the device for the boot filesystem, I can use a traditional device name or a partition id, but not a disk id. Traditional device names are no good because they can shift when a sata disk is added or removed, which is why I'm using disk ids in my fstab at runtime. But < 1420328105 626091 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to double layer an ssh over an ssh ive heard you can do this but maybe not < 1420328126 744872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :partition ids are no good either because those exist only if I have an uefi partition table, which apparently can't easily coexist with a pc partition table, and so I don't really want to install one. < 1420328137 996453 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and [bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxyzBCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXYZ] maybe? < 1420328249 376076 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric : would be shorter to b-df-hj-np-tv-z and B-DF-HJ-NP-TV-Z < 1420328251 630500 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently my choices are: (1) getting my boot screwed when I plug the third hard disk in or when the first hard disk dies, or (2) upgrading to grub2 and generating the root device name dynamically, or (3) upgrading to an efi partition table, whcih, incidentally, would also require me to upgrade to grub2, < 1420328257 979908 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, just make an account, log into the account (shell; su) and start the bot in a screen session. < 1420328279 116051 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank < 1420328280 12470 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I keep a pc partition table on the first hard disk together with grub-l and the boot partition I think -- or does grub-l handle uefi parition tables? < 1420328312 320246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or (4) some other boot loader I guess) < 1420328342 257695 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so bad about grub2? < 1420328342 798644 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric : why not [^aeiou\W] int-e or if this applys to what you were talking about with regex < 1420328359 778494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: also, [^\WaeiouAEIOU] < 1420328396 363764 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah but that's a bit long? < 1420328397 603922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nothing, it's just that I don't want to change from what I know works, it's a bit big and overengineered, I don't want a whole operating system as my boot loader (I know I've used DOS+loadlin a decade ago, but DOS is not as much an operating system as grub2) < 1420328402 547168 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you golfing? < 1420328417 576459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but also I don't understand why I'd have to work around a linux kernel problem with the boot loader < 1420328418 670987 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: well, yours matches AEIOU. No, not golfing, just simplifying. < 1420328424 565350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I mean, even if I upgrade to grub2, < 1420328460 730099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Linux kernel already knows about disk ids, they're there in devfs, it just doesn't handle them at boot time in the root= boot parameter, WHY?, and what's the proper workaround? < 1420328462 944053 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you'll be stuck with some UUID scheme for identifying partitions, which is UGLY. :-/ < 1420328468 400459 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and here's one I got earlier [^aeiouAEIOU\W0-9_] < 1420328480 476877 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was shortening < 1420328491 555968 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-49-198.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1420328528 90439 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also int-e if you dont care about case and can do embedded flags, (?i)[^aeiou\W0-9_] < 1420328533 566323 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is shorter < 1420328548 16076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you guys handle this? are you using efi/guid partition tables? < 1420328585 150045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: you arrived towards the end of that discussion. I started out with the ugly (?:(?![aeiouAEIOU])\w) < 1420328595 398275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you pass in the root= parameter for Linux if you boot Linux? < 1420328599 998674 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1420328601 619184 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1420328667 89747 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-49-198.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1420328723 15772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, I'm actually relying on debian's builtin scripts here, which generate something like set root='hd0,msdos6'; if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6 --hint='hd0,msdos6' < 1420328753 721472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41589&oldid=41114 5* 03Alikberov 5* (+92) 10/* Examples: DNA-code */ < 1420328781 630769 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it goes on: else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fi. < 1420328789 744829 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also int-e what's the regex for or are you just trying simplifying < 1420328799 70433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: check the logs < 1420328818 306565 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah < 1420328820 361978 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1420328850 695214 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh wait, I forgot to mention the part where the whole thing might be easier if you're using initrd, like debian usually does, because then the initrd script can do anything to find the real root device < 1420328860 119087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm an old-style guy and don't use an initrd < 1420328883 974439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: as for those lines, how does that pass the root fs to the kernel parameters? < 1420328978 894420 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh wait. I cannot answer this. I have custom entries for booting Linux; I was looking at memtest stuff. < 1420329006 290444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what do you use for custom entries? and are you using an efi/guid partition table or a pc one? < 1420329056 163259 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pc, insmod part_msdos; insmod ext2; set root=(hd0,msdos6); linux /bzImage-64-3.10.12-2 root=/dev/sda7 ro; boot <-- all hardcoded. < 1420329064 524028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that doesn't help you < 1420329071 713481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, hardcoded < 1420329073 639392 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any of the bots latex? < 1420329094 591083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`latex < 1420329095 158477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: latex: not found < 1420329096 707086 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardcoded works if the boot and the root fs are both the first hard disk, < 1420329099 791135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I'm having now, < 1420329107 836660 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but currently I'm installing a new system on a different hard disk, < 1420329114 845474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for a while I want both to co-exist, < 1420329118 875350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't have both on the first hard disk < 1420329134 584328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can put the boot loader and boot partition wherever, even in multiple places, < 1420329147 972581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can swap the two hard disks, < 1420329154 350424 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :latex a string of math to show what b^2 looks like so it shows it as b squared 2 < 1420329156 770356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to move the old system to the other hard disk < 1420329173 148733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't have both root fses on the first hard disk. < 1420329220 421562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could still consider to use a small root partition on the first disk with almost no data there and the real stuff mounted later, but that also makes stuff more complicated, or of course an initrd too. < 1420329261 807038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll definitely have to sleep on this, and read up on how efi/guid partition tables work and what software to use to manage them, because maybe it is worth for the long term anyway < 1420329293 998938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I didn't think any OS besides Windows every cared about being booted from the first floppy or hdd... what's the issue? < 1420329313 978099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problem is not booting from the non-first hard disk, < 1420329317 559547 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not directly. < 1420329333 774365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: You can use the Google Charts API to render something that's pretty close to LaTeX. < 1420329340 375009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: E.g., http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=tx&chl=b^2 < 1420329372 457792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("cht=txt" says the chart type is just a text string, and "chl" is the text to render.) < 1420329397 521931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that if the boot parameter is, say, root=/dev/sdb7 , then the meaning of sdb can change depending on what other hard disks are plugged in, so if I plug in a third disk or a disk dies, Linux can suddenly try to use the wrong fs for root. < 1420329415 430273 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well I found a pretty good site now < 1420329424 832519 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thanks anyways fizzie < 1420329425 971176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the annoying part is that during runtime (not at boot), Linux already has a solution for this: < 1420329426 789061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solace: http://mathb.in/ works? < 1420329442 691003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my fstab has entries referring to stuff like /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA9883130-part6 < 1420329448 194879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, say, http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=tx&chl=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a} < 1420329465 420047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ata-WDC_WD20EARX-00PASB0_WD-WMAZA9883130 is the unique id of one of the hard disks, so it can't ever refer to the wrong hard disk, no matter what disks are plugged in < 1420329508 442162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a solution during boot too < 1420329512 23268 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bymzkrpuckpuimxw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quicklatex.com works also int-e < 1420329513 900223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do root=UUID=... < 1420329519 410118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1420329527 495108 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, but the problem is that that only works if I have an efi partition table < 1420329528 927266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's an initrd thing < 1420329534 114337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that would be PARTUUID. < 1420329536 710152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UUID is different < 1420329538 559274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, that's a kernel thing < 1420329541 979676 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1420329545 681684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does UUID refer to then? < 1420329546 501869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's just untrue. < 1420329562 396686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PARTUUID is the GPT UUID < 1420329569 800684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess UUID is some other UUID, but it works just as well. < 1420329572 906435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's already being explained -- I'll shut up. < 1420329578 453472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DEFINITELY tried to look at linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt but it doesn't document how it works properly < 1420329596 388364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same UUID that is in /dev/disk/by-uuid, if that helps.