< 1419724800 441634 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is /msg? < 1419724813 596036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. rhetorical question or sincere? < 1419724832 1645 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't know < 1419724848 696160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent you one < 1419724913 328066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg is a command in some IRC clients, I think; its purpose is slightly different in different IRC clients < 1419724995 983556 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i get it now.. it is like a PM on a BBS. not visible to everyone that is < 1419725022 770461 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :PM < 1419725054 535442 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw the technical details, i don't need to know how EVERY thing is use works... < 1419725072 329854 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then I won't link to the RFC document < 1419725084 383533 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just means 'private message' in case you send it to another person < 1419725131 281678 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1419725133 558718 :arjanb!8259ab67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.103 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1419725164 992093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you can also /msg #channel ... though < 1419725172 189888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as long as you're in it unless it is -n) < 1419725227 372534 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is an irrelevant tech detail here. < 1419725228 910740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you send a message to a channel you do not get a copy even if you are on it though; however you can also send a message directly to yourself. < 1419725253 432445 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have implemented a /// variant in which each part is a pascal string. < 1419725276 100333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I suggest not using decimal for that. < 1419725278 430497 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. it is preceded by its length as a byte) < 1419725283 44839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1419725286 398406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's boring. < 1419725295 474165 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it still TC? < 1419725303 934360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1419725326 932707 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :any i figure it is less boring than most of the BF variants < 1419725334 40762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking something like defining it on bits as 1^m0{s1}^n0{s2}{s3} where |s1| = m, |s2| = n < 1419725353 50750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 11100100... replaces "010" with the empty string in ... < 1419725409 198577 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is arbitrary length of pattern and replacement requied for TCness? < 1419725426 611620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1419725538 442843 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hex, 010A020A0B0A0B -> 0A0B0B < 1419725591 442263 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure what the termination condition would be < 1419725652 383305 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this does eliminate the need for \'s. < 1419725760 756737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I suppose my language can only output 0s < 1419725762 166504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unfortunate < 1419725771 400527 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1419725808 385127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: you did mean 0^n and not ^n0, didn't you? < 1419725849 813834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1419725866 500510 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not understand in that case < 1419725880 132827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be 1^n0 < 1419725889 240897 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1419725896 261473 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that works for me < 1419725910 727203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do things like make programs with useful infinite output though < 1419725913 19004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is sad < 1419725925 550795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any way to allow outputting 1s too that wouldn't feel a bit impure < 1419725932 271898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, it can't even output 0s < 1419725945 947384 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1419725948 159560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 01^n0s2 is //s2/ < 1419725959 672176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is admittedly a useless construct, but one that is in the original ///, and one that should be present for symmetry < 1419725983 826285 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see the problem < 1419726002 808967 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should reread about /// < 1419726004 916901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so 0 has a meaning other than outputting a 0bit < 1419726006 924565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*0 bit < 1419726859 28535 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1419727005 762610 :scshunt!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1419727023 654995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow < 1419727036 807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/111 I guess HackEgo isn't here < 1419727131 556240 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on. what if the string evolves to a bitstring beginning with 0? < 1419727154 648815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 111 0 101 --> ("", "101") < 1419727160 143504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is like //101/ in ///. < 1419727165 588209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it loops forever. < 1419727205 119465 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...damn. uhh... actually if my byte-based one had input it would have the same probelm < 1419727224 399889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that a problem? < 1419727240 926773 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... how do you terminate? < 1419727258 644035 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you seperate several substitution rules with your above rule? < 1419727278 524363 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't you need to prefix s3, too? < 1419727287 34410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: strings are self-delimited, so in (s1:string)(s2:string)(s3:bits) we replace s1 with s2 in s3. < 1419727293 823372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then continue running s3. < 1419727305 775448 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1419727314 40029 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am tinking of eliminating input and halting on 0. < 1419727314 248125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"replace" is defined as per ///, i.e. you replace the first occurrence of s1 with s2 in s3, and then repeat. < 1419727332 703566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(therefore if you replace a string s with any string that has an s in it, it is an infinite loop.) < 1419727340 307321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopping when there are no s1s in s3. < 1419727636 732392 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. so what if an empty pattern and replacement halts instead of looping ofrver doing trivial replacements < 1419727662 903100 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :00[N] will output N < 1419727764 365989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a weird special case. < 1419727779 222782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see e.g. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:///#An_ambiguity_in_the_spec < 1419727814 929158 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ambiguity in the spec < 1419727824 439383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no longer ambiguous < 1419727833 951700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because I rewrote the spec :p < 1419727850 60238 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tons of ambiguous specs < 1419727855 867405 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooons < 1419727868 443728 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :| - ) < 1419727890 282908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a geordi smiley < 1419727896 160385 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know < 1419727927 530023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the behaviour of the itflabtijtslwi program GGx nys?!?! only you can clarify < 1419727951 819252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest it be specified as starting an interactive game of tetris < 1419728019 727549 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll explicitly specify that it's unspecified < 1419728026 683958 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and call it "Undefined Behaviour" < 1419728035 236253 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1419728035 494169 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1419728042 746929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, but, like, triggering an error would be so boring. < 1419728046 96222 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :| - )_ < 1419728053 48741 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not illegal < 1419728053 814013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have leverage here. < 1419728058 838981 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just. undefined. < 1419728067 717807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I mean as an implementation choice as to how you interpret that undefined behaviour! < 1419728074 760956 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1419728076 79791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay how about it's undefined WHICH game it starts < 1419728079 395532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could also be boggle < 1419728089 536568 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or AoM < 1419728091 431469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian roulette < 1419728097 486394 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends how much free memory there is < 1419728106 603150 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the endianness of the target machine < 1419728111 83851 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1419728114 564475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all itflabtijtslwi programs must reimplement crysis < 1419728117 634984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *interpreters < 1419728139 564278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i vote for dwarf fortress < 1419728144 354501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: gcc actually used to treat implementation-specific behaviour this way btw http://feross.org/gcc-ownage/ < 1419728152 171811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started up nethack < 1419728173 147705 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH < 1419728175 58021 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1419728185 275107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.regehr.org/archives/759 ahh, this would give oren a heart attack < 1419728218 753217 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1419728236 351685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ltns < 1419728245 391059 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coeducation is the great coequalizer < 1419728253 946613 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should teach me category theory < 1419728258 952809 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can apparently use SetWindowLong to change GWLP_USERDATA < 1419728263 613773 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: excuse you? < 1419728269 658650 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1419728271 267042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :long time no see < 1419728272 382694 :nisscrooge!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1419728272 425829 :nisscrooge!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1419728273 48886 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me a second to parse that < 1419728274 460622 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1419728278 816995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my old nemesis < 1419728290 163794 :nisscrooge!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1419728309 160834 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow thought it would be a good idea to write a win32 GUI < 1419728316 656238 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my own accord, without being paid large sums of cash. < 1419728351 578337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1419728387 38923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: be careful, inductive reasoning isn't enough to learn CT, you need the coinductive kind as well. eh this joke sucks < 1419728435 121017 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a terrible joke < 1419728449 510917 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be a terrible joke i'd get better if i knew CT ;_; < 1419728487 158283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even really much of a CT joke... < 1419728512 308991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting "co" in front of everything is (a very bad one), but coinduction isn't even a CT thing < 1419728523 936224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it probably is, from some perspective, but so is everything -_- < 1419728541 640654 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean i know coequalizers are a thing < 1419728558 52331 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about being applied for a unification algorithm in like one textbook < 1419728626 188203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew what coequalisers were, once < 1419728633 529842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what textbook though? < 1419728640 600090 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnnnn i forget < 1419728658 673728 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh i think it might have been category theory for computing science? < 1419728661 409938 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419728663 531479 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1419728702 271807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds interesting... why were you reading a book with that title if you don't know CT though :p < 1419728718 663165 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wrote a chat bot that connects to twitch.tv's "IRC" server (more of a pseudo-IRC server than anything, since it doesn't implement most of the protocol), takes song requests from subscribers, and adds them to a Spotify playlist. Now I'm updating it with a GUI to change configuration and display who requested what song. < 1419728728 70044 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person I wrote it for isn't very comfortable with config files. :P < 1419728775 890035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: oh or is it like a CT introduction from the perspective of CS < 1419728779 72793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than like the other way around < 1419728794 587685 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more or less using win32 api to say that I did, and then move on with my life (preferably forever) < 1419728795 218770 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaa < 1419728797 942277 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1419728805 608212 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read too much of it < 1419728831 378597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1419728841 746575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that CT books are a rather mixed bag < 1419728906 890568 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just started reading one called uh i forget but it's by two guys named lawvere and schanuel < 1419728919 465090 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really sort of childish but i like it < 1419728923 735813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conceptual mathematics? < 1419728927 706141 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesh < 1419728931 472274 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1419728932 949135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard things about that and I forget whether they were really good or really bad < 1419728941 514976 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-> < 1419728958 360757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my problem with CT is that I don't have the mathematical knowledge to understand all the concrete examples < 1419728983 879107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I end up pretending the only "applied", non-"CT stuff" category is Set, which doesn't go too well < 1419728992 567879 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the great thing about this book < 1419729012 622003 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that it seems like you don't even really need math as a prerequisite haha < 1419729028 178254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1419729036 830525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a shame because I am interested in CT more for its own sake than for its applications, really < 1419729079 770284 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mostly only study this stuff in the hope of stumbling across novel applications < 1419729142 76694 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :From reading the wikipedia, CT looked easy until i realized it is brutaly hard < 1419729245 780754 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1419729249 724460 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CT is very hard < 1419729272 381484 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks so trivial at first that it is so... inviting < 1419729320 444512 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a comfy couch with a bunch of invisible thumbtacks < 1419729321 615621 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a gateway math < 1419729325 183487 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it is hard maths < 1419729340 251302 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1419729345 225789 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :math. not even once. < 1419729358 606349 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quit a math long time ago. My life has been a lot better since. < 1419729395 486621 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can now look down on those who do math, because I have already quit. < 1419729413 228503 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1419729420 451632 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not nice < 1419729420 715688 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make computers do math so i don't have to. math is the computer's job < 1419729517 428791 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, calculating is the computer's job < 1419729523 205659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably the problem is that CT is too simple; there's nothing to hold on to < 1419729523 575912 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is not calculating < 1419729528 790442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* *too* < 1419729586 68673 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloril_: yeah < 1419729594 561922 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: CAS would beg to differ < 1419729597 178276 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott: < 1419729639 510689 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite thing about this project is learning about the function wcstombs < 1419729648 392043 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think of it as an author's name < 1419729657 173691 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. W. C. Stombs < 1419729677 864601 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :WCs and tombs < 1419729681 255419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dreaded WCS tombs < 1419729706 38683 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The curse of W.C.'s tombs. < 1419729716 13136 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't quite figured out a nice mnemonic for mbstowcs though. < 1419729721 106040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is W C? < 1419729733 898887 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :William Carlsroy < 1419729782 367712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in a maze of puns, all different :/ < 1419729798 892097 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :other fun windows things: WNDCLASSEX < 1419729839 541388 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wind class sex. < 1419729845 775048 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I actually guessed the meaning of wcstombs correctly. < 1419729864 448327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like having sex in a class about the weather < 1419729866 238375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes shoot out his brain. < 1419729903 954237 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it's a place name in the UK < 1419729904 476585 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why has atoi not been added to C11? < 1419729918 215691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because strtol < 1419729918 834261 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :atoi is deprecated < 1419729920 315248 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :weather report music sounds pretty sexy < 1419729928 480293 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the thing elliott mentioned < 1419729939 736001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sscanf, I guess? < 1419729959 953150 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about itoa? < 1419729967 214694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: banging to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_Forecast < 1419729985 64479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: s(n)printf < 1419729997 397747 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprintf doesn't support arbitrary base < 1419730006 573392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, neither does itoa afaik < 1419730024 913347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it's more flexible though < 1419730035 720816 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :who even uses sscanf for anything ever < 1419730047 819530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it's less annoying than manual string mangling < 1419730051 91726 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1419730066 561922 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you want to input one line exactly then read numbers from it < 1419730097 139461 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it's good for throwaway programs that require input, but where the input is trusted or only consists of numbers? < 1419730104 37792 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scanf space matches \n which is sometimes not what you want < 1419730110 240396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSq4nfH4y6Q more likely to put you to sleep tbh < 1419730113 873446 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :sscanf does locales. < 1419730127 379174 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: pity. < 1419730157 847779 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is itoa a thing? < 1419730158 447332 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, i was actually covertly referring to these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQ89diiq5Q < 1419730185 375427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: oh, duh. no, I know of Weather Report, I just interpreted it completely literally for some reason < 1419730195 611372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer my interpretation tbh < 1419730206 814811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :muzak to get you into the mood < 1419730230 540461 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1419730241 248339 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/yakksftt.aspx < 1419730263 20533 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i have no clue why thatis the url < 1419730291 54286 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/yakksftt.aspx < 1419730331 597131 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am actually pretty curious about why it is called that < 1419730366 816053 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, looks like all of the URLs have gibberish names < 1419730382 938633 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1419730391 845789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“More secure versions of these functions are available” < 1419730407 517596 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :_itoa_s < 1419730476 27476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 971 < 1419730484 349538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 971: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1419730529 570559 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for those who aren't familiar with it: any guesses for what the type name LPCWSTR stands for? < 1419730540 984862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :long pointer to wide character string < 1419730551 240698 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you sound awfully familiar with that type < 1419730551 562281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy when you know the basic elements of the type name < 1419730562 387334 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're cheating < 1419730564 3488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever written more than like 30 lines of Win32. < 1419730568 850965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how the "L" survived the tides of time < 1419730580 644918 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP long pointers < 1419730591 112341 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shellochellof! thanks! < 1419730592 377321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STR" is obvious, and gives an obvious meaning to "CW", because I do know Windows uses WCHAT/wchar_t UTF-16 (or UCS-2, sometimes...) < 1419730600 971668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, yes, LP I know < 1419730601 283443 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how the L survived rather than being dropped < 1419730602 299259 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1419730629 393612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: well, modern-day pointers act more like long ones did, right? < 1419730644 520360 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooort oooooofffff < 1419730650 357666 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it were PCWSTR people might think it stands for Personal Computer Wide String, or maybe Program Counter Wide String. :) < 1419730650 817074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1419730665 694111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's olist features the return of an unlikely nemesis < 1419730668 218199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: perhaps that happened because for a quite a long time, LP were 32 bits? < 1419730676 918467 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok true nuff < 1419730692 787372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also with 64 bit architectures, the distinction is somewhat relevant again < 1419730713 443340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: I mean, near pointers are limited, far pointers can address everything but they're bulkier < 1419730720 583241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really is more like near pointers stopped existing than far pointers < 1419730722 916419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because one can save lots of memory if pointers are truncated to 32 bits, which is plenty enough for many applications. < 1419730726 658664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Sadly, WPARAM and LPARAM are still the same size on x64 Windows. They missed a great chance to make LPARAM 64 bits and WPARAM 32. < 1419730726 702152 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK FUNK < 1419730729 80068 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FINE < 1419730736 652359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to apologise for your error nys < 1419730741 23669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're so disappointed < 1419730743 553567 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm really sorry < 1419730746 851161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks <3 < 1419730748 17130 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i retract my statement < 1419730749 263120 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not enough reallys < 1419730760 615063 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reeeeeally really sorry with a cherry on top < 1419730763 518623 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been messing with WPARAM and LPARAM all day and I actually did not even bother to figure out what the L and W stood for. :P < 1419730764 762435 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :better <3 < 1419730769 202285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: which model? < 1419730790 934752 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hoping for a good keyboard ;-) ) < 1419730806 737572 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1419730811 689322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was even worse than my coinduction joke < 1419730836 383112 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1419730859 466579 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I just "love" the whole notion of far pointers in DOS C. < 1419730862 9927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherry is a company that makes keyboards. < 1419730869 314969 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1419730878 382739 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so apparently LPARAM and WPARAM used to be different sizes and now they're not, but they kept their names just cuz? < 1419730882 737531 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hysterical raisins < 1419730883 231873 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like another apology is in order >_> < 1419730893 936944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyy, don't look at me < 1419730897 739149 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you wanna be portable to DOS and handle sane amounts of memory, good luck being sane!" < 1419730898 266904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was int-e's joke! < 1419730934 734104 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at int-e < 1419730981 279726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry?! < 1419730988 653272 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1419730993 623044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, whom am I kidding. < 1419731014 373080 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going inta yer record then...punk... < 1419731032 920300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sorry with a Logitech on top < 1419731036 930578 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one gonna follow you around the rest of your pun career < 1419731059 831829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haven't seen one I liked, so that should be repentance enough) < 1419731383 976642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several sources of bad influences, http://www.vexxarr.com/archive.php?seldate=010908 not the least among them. < 1419731471 269505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not just that particular one (I got the link from TV tropes), the whole comic is full of puns, often awful to the extent that it's used as a weapon to slow down enemies. I think OOTS does that, too.) < 1419731550 528821 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419731663 396739 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419732469 25371 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at int-e. “you linked me to a punny comic. I hate you.” < 1419732613 973412 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.airshipentertainment.com/growfcomic.php?date=20071014 is another nice demonstration < 1419732631 105607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's actually meta, so that should make it ok ;-) < 1419732795 283736 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1419732841 705854 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boiling with rage? < 1419732856 343506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry it took so long. I'm sure this has been done before.) < 1419733049 680091 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll think of something. just you wait... < 1419733232 902963 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419733255 475479 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1419733289 241929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuffles into a corner and hangs his head in sham. < 1419734895 454714 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419735084 652335 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in sham? < 1419735339 553915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: don't ask, I might still need the plausible deniability. < 1419735832 165173 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419736181 946661 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1419736400 136013 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1419736860 942126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice. apparently one can reconstruct fingerprints from photographs (obvious in retrospect...) ... so much for security. < 1419737117 736953 :metaphage!~metaphage@121.90.182.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419737192 352384 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you need hi-res, or can you infer a good engough print from a good enough picture? < 1419737738 719610 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they used a standard camera and a 200mm lens (which they write is standard for reporters) at a press conference; I assume they zoomed in on the hands. < 1419738014 827920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity, the talk was in german. https://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/Fahrplan/events/6450.html < 1419738157 385191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice title though. "I see, therefore I am ... you." < 1419738516 386643 :metaphage!~metaphage@121.90.182.36 QUIT : < 1419738534 249737 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Authentifizierungserfahren... < 1419738555 972743 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ser/sver/ < 1419738586 598472 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone make a bot that processes s/// commnads < 1419738606 26199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, no. < 1419738619 952 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1419738668 785542 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/./&&/g' <<<"because it would be awful" < 1419738671 30053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbeeccaauussee iitt wwoouulldd bbee aawwffuull < 1419738678 504208 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can name him sbot the bot. see sbot run. s/see/run,/ < 1419738703 801173 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/// is probably turing complete. it may cause infinite loops of disproportionatexponential proportions. < 1419738735 923545 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: CRETACEOUS CHICKEN < 1419738761 347274 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop's battery lasts embarrassingly long <3 < 1419738839 526337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I really can't see that ending well; the abuse will outweigh the benefit and even the benefit is very small; people are good at spotting and correcting typos even without the s/// prompts. < 1419738874 414945 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Slashes < 1419738893 721835 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :limit it to one iteration per s// < 1419738949 682721 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/.*/&! &!!! &!!!!!/' <<<"because it would be awful" < 1419738950 174106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would be awful! because it would be awful!!! because it would be awful!!!!! < 1419739028 379301 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that slashes has no regexes and no backreferences < 1419739385 736979 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419739386 108603 :dts_!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1419739427 277781 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how efficient is it to fseek around in a file instead of using my own explicit buffer? < 1419739491 766194 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am hoping there isn't much penalty < 1419739567 543670 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another system call. If you seek a lot and the file isn't *too* big, you could use mmap. < 1419739626 921695 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :KISS suggests you should try the fseek and optimize later. < 1419739648 346918 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1419739717 336994 :dts_!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :dts|pokeball < 1419739724 36401 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be ok from my test...] < 1419739736 304944 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try a buffer later < 1419739777 332881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1419739852 820611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1419739852 965229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 11h 35m 40s ago: I'm not worried about getting to Paris yet. The more immediate problem is whether the engine will consume Agatha's locket. < 1419739858 313473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e eek < 1419739858 356828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1419739892 65857 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not my idea, it has been hinted at. < 1419739959 821227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean something more specific than martellus's hand? < 1419740037 917635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps his chemical modifications of agatha will save the day :P < 1419740092 833461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are we _really_ sure margolotta is dead. maybe she has something that just makes her look that way. < 1419740096 153081 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's the last panel in http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20141219 < 1419740122 165632 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I also thought Zeetha was worried about it at one point, but perhaps I imagined that. < 1419740155 138821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :she has been worried about the locket before, but recently? < 1419740163 831922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good question. But Violetta confirmed her death, so tentatively I'm accepting that she is dead. Which doesn't mean she won't be revived. < 1419740178 27865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1419740198 137878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that would be non-ferrous metal < 1419740271 650193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many people have actually died in this comic so far... < 1419740285 896588 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(named characters) < 1419740303 707369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, doctor beetle, judy and punch < 1419740327 775628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course those two got better) < 1419740333 493030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lars < 1419740337 32419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them revived. < 1419740340 732624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lars, Olga. < 1419740353 465075 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Olga revived, perhaps ;-) ) < 1419740360 665977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without a brain afaiu < 1419740371 139722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, without her old brain < 1419740379 934545 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, obviously. < 1419740385 158300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr diaz < 1419740412 659672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr merlot < 1419740426 281429 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's that soldier killed by the locket < 1419740436 293968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, moloch's brother < 1419740473 465399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :priestess vrin < 1419740486 727234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarvek's father < 1419740499 984427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of people, i'd say :P < 1419740504 456856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zola, probably < 1419740513 472961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1419740529 162542 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1419740529 979668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure zola survived < 1419740566 87394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was last seen alive and recuperating < 1419740622 431491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraulein von pinn sort of died but got reclanked < 1419740631 460866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110221 < 1419740650 771931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot. < 1419740655 875887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lord selnikov also got revived < 1419740721 805327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were other castle inmates but i don't remember if any had names < 1419740727 382562 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course Zola should be out of action in the time stop field. < 1419740749 93027 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Together with a lot of other members of the cast.) < 1419740756 417681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that may be, unless she left when klaus did < 1419740769 350486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that could be... < 1419740773 60269 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricky < 1419740832 793249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :öumph or whatever that trumpet guy was called, although he didn't survive very long < 1419740870 155039 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn we really don't know much about what happened during those 3 years. So many opportunities for Lucrecia (one of her three? copies, besides Agatha) to come up with deviltries. < 1419740938 853876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know of two other copies, one of which is zola and so is different < 1419741002 789242 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1419741005 518693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimo did tell agatha gil was fighting against her mother < 1419741043 626692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so she's obviously somewhat powerful < 1419741299 14616 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're right. http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/The_Other < 1419741380 663990 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole Sturmhalten scene is a blur to me. So two copies of Lucrecia make it out of there but one of them was Agatha... < 1419741421 23288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1419741438 610106 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419741645 426280 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know whether Agatha has taken the locket off since her revification death below castle Heterodyne? Because that scene looked like she might actually be rid of her. < 1419741655 112023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy also has a name and dies shortly after http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20130520 < 1419741661 914301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*might* < 1419741722 296865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um zola took the locket off after that < 1419741743 193412 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/jamesgolick/status/529360759256776704 < 1419741747 624108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. that settles that. < 1419741972 632967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the last time lucrezia was in complete control of agatha's body was http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100730 < 1419742007 277419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there were some eerie emotion-only episodes later) < 1419742088 741408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been rereading that section recently < 1419742144 663428 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1419742224 593806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20101129 < 1419742352 689502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next page is where tarvek says that he can remove lucrezia once and for all < 1419742375 801278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course there hasn't been time for that < 1419742448 826206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so there's a field of mathematics called 'non-galoisian galois theory' <-- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1419742466 419164 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1419742486 745860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh kallisti is here < 1419742490 830208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1419742602 230583 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1419742635 156740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1419742635 781230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 280450Z 12011KT 9999 FEW044 SCT053 M11/M13 Q1021 RMK WIND 670FT 15008KT < 1419742641 665131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BRRRR* < 1419742659 273802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to get warmer tomorrow < 1419742668 646141 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1419742669 240667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 280450Z VRB01KT 6000 -SN SCT010 SCT030 BKN050 M04/M04 Q1001 NOSIG < 1419742738 522856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-SN? negative snow? < 1419742760 250205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS THE SNOW FALLING UPWARDS IN INNSBRUCK, FILM AT 11 < 1419742800 970122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light snow. < 1419742813 244430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very light indeed < 1419742841 225465 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the longer you go hacking at code without refactoring, the worse it looks < 1419742844 681195 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. It's snowing lightly. < 1419742849 26376 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not upwards. < 1419742859 478831 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly oerjan. Not that I have any right to complain. < 1419742861 758523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: isn't that like the definition of technical debt < 1419742888 528534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually read the definition mind you < 1419742912 740204 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a + modifier for heavy rain or snow. < 1419742917 285492 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int o,ol,l,i,n,k,m; < 1419742918 205772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1419743132 146250 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that line is representative of what happens when you put the whole program into the main function < 1419743210 690817 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i refactor when the function gets to be more than one screen, but.... < 1419743777 706322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should factor while you still remember the primes, i think < 1419743830 410030 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is actually a good metaphor. it is hard to refacotr code that you didn't just write < 1419744188 225861 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1419745212 971514 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419745436 984923 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I seriously reading a pro-North Korea thing right now? WTF < 1419745448 187961 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently 'hermit kingdom' is racist? What? < 1419745556 105800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be a DPRK website, seems to be a socialist website < 1419746123 886785 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419746182 396354 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :North Korea scares me < 1419746186 908942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419746200 682465 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419746488 362647 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 QUIT :Changing host < 1419746488 442976 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419746488 486293 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 NICK :TheM4ch1n3 < 1419746761 153354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compressor is almost working... it's losing a few bytes at the end of the file < 1419746910 917713 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have created the most WTF compression algorithm ever < 1419746950 970619 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes over the file ~10000 times < 1419747081 320182 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the plus side decompression is pretty fast < 1419747298 887254 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use xz/7z < 1419747366 625175 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compressor is awesome. it generates a program in a language similar to /// which outputs the original file < 1419747369 776087 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat somefile.ext | xz -9 -c >somefile.ext.xz < 1419747430 885878 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :language similar to /// ? < 1419747459 870354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially /// except instead of delimiters each strong begins with a byte giving its length < 1419747495 397844 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but why not use one of the already developed compression algo's ? < 1419747505 236976 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fun, duh < 1419747513 172765 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :-) < 1419747531 311869 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will post the code once i've ironed out the bugs and refactored it < 1419747596 732050 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm working on a minecraft clone - currently developing a block level binary occluder system, goal to render many blocks, but anything could be in each block < 1419747635 830106 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I wanna add OpenDE (Physics) and some simple vehicles < 1419747663 13875 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419747695 996402 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1419747727 661718 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "occluder" you mean it detects which blocks are visible before reducing them to polygons? < 1419747797 719758 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, compression is fully working it seems < 1419747862 432329 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( refactor, v. - rewrite from scratch ) < 1419747976 567503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol int-e i'm not gonna do that... yet. < 1419748025 96766 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1419748102 136543 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419748488 936751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is interesting which strings it chooses to reduce, < 1419748514 853563 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh, um by occluder I mean it uses a fill method, whereby airbricks (has nothing but air within) - have markers that move away from the camera until they enter a solid (block), then it knows what to draw < 1419748515 955586 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 QUIT :Changing host < 1419748515 998800 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419748515 998909 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 NICK :TheM4ch1n3 < 1419748534 686692 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: have you read about huffman compression ? < 1419748560 959876 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have of course < 1419748614 985982 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come you dont code a PC game "for fun" ? < 1419748616 263271 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good politician on SMBC? < 1419748750 561194 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a bit rude but funny -> http://xkcd.com/508/ < 1419748794 478493 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TheM4ch1n3: heh, i've done that < 1419748894 795830 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that is sweet, one other side project I am doing is running around with a flashdisk trying to show people screenshots of linux .... < 1419748904 294537 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a game that does 3d by autostereograms < 1419748916 596145 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytgyvvwidxwqwenk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1419748935 503422 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you screw up your eyes and see the game world in 3d < 1419748943 821292 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you mean those glasses that are blue & red, for seperating the two eyes of the viewer ? < 1419748955 484431 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no glasses, no special screen < 1419748999 132345 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh wait, it looks like white noise - pixel fuzz - and squinting eyes reveal an image ? < 1419749028 406165 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1419749032 201392 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this image: < 1419749033 310114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross-eyed viewing < 1419749034 72818 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chess_Single_Image_Stereogram_by_3Dimka.jpg < 1419749036 686961 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or parallel viewing < 1419749045 478550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :parallel for my game < 1419749046 367999 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can do cross-eyed byt not parallel < 1419749067 13920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might add a crosseyed mode sometime < 1419749087 33828 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :em, ok < 1419749533 990824 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/orenwatson/01e1674fe74a21602c17 < 1419749554 403643 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there... < 1419749631 906873 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the game i was talking about. you fly around and shoot stuff and bomb things, kinda like Xevious) < 1419749652 283536 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That C has extraordinarily few comments < 1419749711 68328 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even a title or author comment, i know < 1419749772 603062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _think_ i can do cross-eyed but not parallel, in which my question is how the hell do enough people manage parallel that they standardized on it < 1419749777 714840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in which case < 1419749778 273259 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419749814 510397 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i do is look over the top of my screen until the game goes into focus < 1419749819 738272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, is there an image that is described clearly enough that i can tell the difference < 1419749843 910811 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my game works in walleyed but definitely no in crosseyed < 1419749861 34650 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on i'll get a screenshot < 1419749868 426543 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419749872 929453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: um if i try to do it the way i think is walleyed that wikipedia link never gets into focus for me < 1419749874 264853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can do parallel but not crosseyed < 1419749993 287605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i managed to strain my eyes into parallel, just, it's clearly the correct view for that picture then. but blurry. < 1419750011 302722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i need glasses < 1419750646 703231 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/479405 < 1419750677 765758 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the easiest way to screenshot an allegro game is to hack the screen shotting into the game itself < 1419750748 747901 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily with my skillz i can do that in 3 minutes < 1419750904 8417 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only kidding, "skillz") < 1419750924 356428 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you have used OpenGL too I assume ? < 1419750955 85811 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeas i have, not a lot tho < 1419751175 960684 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why allegro doesn't handle losing focus properly < 1419751307 588851 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use SDL2 or SDL1, allegro anoys me < 1419751509 736509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it annoy you? the event system? < 1419751529 82136 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, why do identify so closely with a character from a comic that only has disturbed characters? < 1419751563 574270 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which comic/character? < 1419751577 530612 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really want to answer that < 1419751671 21665 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: well, I currently just prefer sdl2, the naming of the functions are a bit wacky in allegro < 1419751736 914596 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, allegro5 is wildly different from allegro4 < 1419751770 883901 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't like allegro 4 atall < 1419751789 215252 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1419752179 862423 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1419752221 279045 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419752639 266599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's pretty clearly visible by really great players in the chess world. In fact, the current reigning #1 chess champion, and highest rated player of all time, Magnus Carlsen, once said that playing a computer is like playing an idiot who beats you every time. Computers just play what seems to be atrocious moves, but always meander into a winning position somehow." < 1419752763 871490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :magnus! < 1419752781 586616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves a small norwegian flag < 1419752847 463051 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION burns a south african flag < 1419752930 587456 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been living in Gauteng, South Africa for 31 yrs, and I just have to say, DAMN -> South Africans should not be allowed near liquor < 1419752975 282684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evZmpsl3jI0 < 1419752980 40626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :roasted42: you should soak the flag in liquor before burning it, then < 1419753090 615464 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok , lmfao < 1419753281 108653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already know how he does it because of Reddit comment :( < 1419753354 359906 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how many players are there, total? 18? < 1419753376 957412 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm saving bandwidth here, not going to watch it) < 1419753401 279588 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419753450 121294 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey m4n! < 1419753588 249350 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 not including Darren < 1419753624 93143 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I don't know how he did -that- < 1419753681 908326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn he didn't explain the number of pieces trick < 1419753682 924985 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.93.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1419753724 279745 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1419753762 225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest was exactly what i thought, i think conway explained that trick the one time i saw him speaking < 1419753785 743176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's connected to his game addition) < 1419753810 466583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible i've seen this video before... < 1419754064 424253 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wait, how many games did he win? < 1419754066 810501 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :5? < 1419754084 34372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some were draws < 1419754087 784337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I'd expect a +1 score) < 1419754097 697437 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won 4, lost 3, tied 2 < 1419754109 536705 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. That's in line with the theory. < 1419754123 697009 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419754145 104325 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four blacks, Five whites, and one of the white players is in on the trick, a pre-arranged win, while the other games are pair-wise identical. < 1419754158 206321 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, lmfao < 1419754176 935889 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err, the extra player would probably play black, doesn't matter though) < 1419754203 177322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the extra player wasn't actually in on the trick, according to the explanation - he just chose the weakest one < 1419754210 911225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair < 1419754277 777723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's pretty clear that the method he claims to have used to win did not give him any room for manipulating the number of pieces at the end < 1419754333 968564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think he must have switched the notes at some point < 1419754482 543722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogier voogt's explanation in the comments seems good < 1419754521 695693 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/orenwatson/5c1e96a7c791cea21eef < 1419754770 12599 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.46 QUIT :Quit: bbl->lag < 1419754924 296696 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419755182 949070 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the question is is there a better way to choose the replacements < 1419755421 729685 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1419755481 284482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : would /// still be turing complete if there was a limit on how long the /x/y/ are allowed to be? <-- hm i _think_ so, assuming the limit is big enough to contain the main program for a BCT interpreter, then the unbounded data itself could be made self-copying in smaller pieces. < 1419755539 286001 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i see... i don't think my decompressor is TC then. < 1419755578 922296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be ways to break up the program into smaller copying pieces too. < 1419755618 314185 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i think replacing the round counter with a prepended zero will also help < 1419755637 105875 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That encoder is probably worse than gzip < 1419755653 302162 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course < 1419755737 902543 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since it onlysupports up to 255 replacements < 1419755744 854296 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am fixing that tho < 1419755810 651345 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you implement this algorithm properly, it will probably still be worse than gzip < 1419755823 181725 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1419755843 378014 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because gzip acts on bit level < 1419755864 517723 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you use bitstrings < 1419755887 88935 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think this can be used with bitstrings tho < 1419755924 405776 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has some properties < 1419755957 517878 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, an incompressible part of the string will stay exactly the same, even readble < 1419756003 740073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: one problem is that with no internal \ escaping, it becomes harder to prevent a substitution from acting on copies of itself < 1419756017 487556 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most compression algorithms should have that property < 1419756023 582140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because now it literally contains the string it substitutes < 1419756040 718592 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the best thing to do to a string that cannot be compressed) < 1419756067 42138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very essential feature for the way i've written /// programs so far < 1419756125 702369 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interesting observation < 1419756187 28562 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you probably don't want substitutions to be recursive < 1419756235 601847 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would prevent a substitution if decoding it would be ambiguous < 1419756328 984193 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the reason it won't be better than gzip is that substitutions aren't windowed, so it can't adapt to the data distribution < 1419756353 619891 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not attempting to be better than gzip < 1419756393 654586 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am attempting to be cooler than gzip < 1419756489 474495 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Being slower and less efficient makes it hard though < 1419756596 923350 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip outputs relatively opaque binary data, which can't be understood easily in a hex editor. my algorithm's output is byte-based which helps with that (i also have a byte-based LZW implementation somewhere) < 1419756650 651886 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine you could make a binary editor that understands gzip streams < 1419756808 917628 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, picking the best-scoring match might not give you the smallest result in the end < 1419756817 642664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember whether this is actually true < 1419756841 676911 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an issue. i don't know what the best heuristic for choosing string is < 1419756959 55023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and temperatures in the winter can plunge to 40 degrees below (Fahrenheit)" < 1419757100 512002 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Celsius) < 1419757137 82461 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Fooled by Google. < 1419757138 713955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-22C < 1419757161 784617 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1419757173 744008 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google must have a secret plan of nudging me towards enabling Javascript. < 1419757173 787243 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought -40F=-40C, what do you mean it's not? < 1419757182 880018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1419757238 762241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, it's "units" that I can't use properly < 1419757360 15406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to enter tempF(-40) and ask for tempC. < 1419757386 770096 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :degrees celsius isn't even a real unit < 1419757397 495652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units 'tempF(-40)' tempC < 1419757398 80082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ -40 < 1419757423 997615 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't be meaningfully added or subtracted < 1419757432 7790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units '-40degF' degC # what I tried, erroneously < 1419757432 492781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :units: invalid option -- '4' \ Usage: units [option] ['from-unit' 'to-unit'] \ \ -h, --help print this help and exit \ -c, --check check that all units reduce to primitive units \ --check-verbose like --check, but lists units as they are checked \ --verbose-check so you can find units that cause endless l < 1419757439 356392 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1419757469 239436 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units -- '-40degF' degC < 1419757469 776570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * -22.222222 \ / -0.045 < 1419757478 930294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the multiplication should've tipped me off. < 1419757536 420319 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units -- '-40degR' K < 1419757536 949980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * -22.222222 \ / -0.045 < 1419757554 526598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i think it's affine unit hth < 1419757575 956018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, when do you even add kelvin anyway) < 1419757626 805912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kelvin temperatures, that is. you can of course add a kelvin temperature to a kelvin difference. < 1419757661 453399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaik kelvin is almost affine even if it has a genuine zero point < 1419757694 345367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm hoping for someone to quote a formula to disprove me, btw) < 1419757728 943874 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno any formulæ < 1419757760 352071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_constant relates absolute zero temperature to a zero kinetic energy, under "average translational kinetic energy" < 1419757797 660504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i mean a formula which adds kelvin temperatures hth < 1419757813 433566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. I was going to add that this still isn't done there. < 1419757823 844185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But one could add energies ;-) < 1419757832 756056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one could. < 1419757944 970515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's the only property I know that's not translation-invariant. < 1419757975 169919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of temperatures) < 1419758013 637510 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so now it supports unlimited replacements < 1419758037 869344 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of limited length < 1419758178 613846 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1419758275 357897 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLEEP? ARE YOU CRAZY? LETS GET UP FOR MIDNIGHT DINNER < 1419758633 224077 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419758633 267317 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Changing host < 1419758633 267438 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1419758655 34406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The North Korean newspapers liked to run “human interest” stories about heroic citizens who lost their lives rescuing the portraits from fire or flood." < 1419758753 992475 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Kim family are basically their version of God, so this is not surprising to me < 1419759189 663142 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1419759269 525822 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419759486 192030 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.53 QUIT :Changing host < 1419759486 316334 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419759486 316453 :roasted42!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 NICK :TheM4ch1n3 < 1419760031 71925 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1419760048 308529 :TheM4ch1n3!~appleseed@unaffiliated/them4ch1n3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419760204 373442 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419760327 75150 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1419760755 667801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1419761140 585253 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1419761352 916927 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in REGXY what happens if a line has stuff after its final / < 1419761715 748590 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasal demons < 1419761733 285691 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1419761745 402905 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just kidding, never heard about REGXY) < 1419761775 909406 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the wiki does not say what happens so i'll just have my implementation ignore it < 1419761985 706017 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419762005 716998 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.66.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419762335 147868 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1419762544 969307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it's a syntax error. < 1419762569 36519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki says "syntax is X", and X does not include that. < 1419762638 543081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. i'll output an error. I'm implementing it in C++ < 1419763128 855109 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419763703 89338 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1419763964 576130 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419764238 241719 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1419764288 979275 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419764378 686586 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 QUIT :Client Quit < 1419764492 646746 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419765304 88930 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1419765437 6923 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419765541 794317 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attention stupid standard authors: if your class includes a bit field of flags, please assign particular bits to particular flags. < 1419766109 322956 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1419767164 150527 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419768450 292763 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1419768855 168081 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1419768876 44180 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1419769048 214290 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1419769192 928434 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found a better heuristic < 1419769243 464672 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419769362 762863 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, technically the same heuristic, but a better way of optimizing over it) < 1419769492 946152 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1419770169 514452 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the results are worse. that means clealy my heuristic is wrong' < 1419770178 959135 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1419770614 309848 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll try different functions of the length and number of occurrences... < 1419771386 475738 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1419771535 463489 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1419771679 282325 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1419771680 540389 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1419771733 279748 :kallisti!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1419771842 710312 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1419771911 67468 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1419771913 76682 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419772717 725721 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.66.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1419772723 671331 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.66.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419772864 693840 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1419773017 53446 :SopaXT!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419773017 97158 :SopaXT!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Changing host < 1419773017 97260 :SopaXT!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1419773044 174840 :SopaXT!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker NICK :SopaXorzTaker < 1419773067 10663 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1419773092 350019 :SopaXT!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419773092 393550 :SopaXT!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Changing host < 1419773092 393692 :SopaXT!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1419773298 609080 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419773589 114604 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.48.16.52 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1419773620 404165 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419774447 934973 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.66.28 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1419774609 318724 :roasted42!~appleseed@41.50.16.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1419774868 896122 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.88.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419775196 438884 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1419775214 163330 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419775265 490340 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-9-246.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb < 1419775280 402594 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-9-246.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1419779554 150535 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1419779897 591932 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1419779897 906507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 281500Z 24011G17KT 5SM -DZ BR BKN010 OVC030 02/02 A2962 RMK ST6SC2 SLP033 < 1419779920 356303 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :+2. always +2. the whole week it's +2. I WANT SNOOOOOOOOW! < 1419779945 552801 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EDDL < 1419779946 50353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDDL 281450Z 01005KT 9999 SCT020 M00/M05 Q1030 NOSIG < 1419780000 182402 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mellovar. < 1419780027 919437 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? M00 < 1419780028 832114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M00? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1419780035 794936 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... what was it again? < 1419780105 58084 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cow < 1419780106 425796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. < 1419780907 586333 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1419780965 644116 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chicken < 1419780966 272317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1419780987 746431 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poulet < 1419780988 461207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poulet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1419781655 640991 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1419781827 131824 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1419782525 237360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1419783442 459271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1419783442 789350 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 281550Z 35008KT 9999 -SN OVC009 M10/M12 Q1021 BECMG FEW009 < 1419783522 812684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1419783523 25792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 281550Z 35004KT 9999 FEW034 04/M02 Q1034 NOSIG < 1419783538 639968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A delta of 14. < 1419783640 641224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1419783662 230223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1419784127 452679 :SopaXT!~Mark@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1419784204 717628 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419784424 372959 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1419786843 363601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1419787025 951024 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1419788837 732593 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-9-246.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1419789601 753313 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1419789638 633652 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1419789641 672967 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://boingboing.net/2010/04/15/colossal-turing-mach.html < 1419789705 666025 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419789735 167184 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1419789766 986575 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1419789914 637641 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1419789982 856591 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1419790004 235675 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: New graphics card < 1419790305 792058 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419790316 358795 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1419791613 295433 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mpffzdkqtmkexsgx JOIN :#esoteric < 1419792887 76070 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1419793451 481913 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.88.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419793464 876259 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.88.165 QUIT :Client Quit < 1419793675 953142 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.88.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1419793684 343876 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419793780 328813 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1419793935 133690 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1419793976 183900 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1419795675 392006 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1419796949 281347 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1419797463 317783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1419797844 218731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1419798328 280789 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1419798429 752144 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419799071 71879 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1419799073 697767 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419799158 683462 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1419799568 798283 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is with North Korea and rice cookers? < 1419799594 75500 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that South Korean rice cookers might be found objectionable, but are there not rice cookers manufactured elsewhere? < 1419799639 827050 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... do not associate rice cookers with North Korea < 1419799784 220069 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point at least, it seems like they were banned, but I can't seem to find the relevent quote online < 1419799840 151280 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it why does a WRONG algorithm achive better compression < 1419799869 823429 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They would look for people who used more than their quota of electricity, a lightbulb brighter than 40 watts, a hot plate, or a rice cooker." < 1419800016 585943 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: NK has no trade < 1419800024 808115 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess sounds more like an electricity thing? But apparently South Korean rice cookers are a symbol of status < 1419800028 605608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no legal trade maybe < 1419800033 24594 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1419800044 911968 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where would they get a rice cooker from? options are SK and China < 1419800056 172254 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I thought NK had some trade with China? < 1419800069 709574 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that imports from China are probably not frowned on as much < 1419800081 997905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk01500&num=3442 < 1419800086 166765 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there's a fair bit of trade with China < 1419800130 325818 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I associate rice cookers with being a fire hazard in student accomodation < 1419800211 355649 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :had many rice cooker fires? < 1419800326 561054 :xreal!~xreal@unaffiliated/xreal JOIN :#esoteric < 1419800349 164621 :xreal!~xreal@unaffiliated/xreal PART #esoteric :"Verlassend." < 1419800480 666311 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy, no, but they went on and on about them at the fire safety briefing < 1419801091 279352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1419802314 306287 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.88.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1419802627 582365 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone recommend an RCA -> VGA converter? < 1419802815 177594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's slightly ambiguous. < 1419802836 306712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, both component and composite video cables tend to use RCA connectors. < 1419802849 827931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the other hand, I don't have any suggestions about either.) < 1419802911 552753 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to be able to play ocarina of time on my monitor < 1419802930 818789 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what I need < 1419802969 978812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using just a regular analog TV card I had lying around to plug my old PS1 to the computer, then open a live view of the video capture on the monitor. < 1419802990 860229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's kind of convoluted. < 1419803064 558894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to plug it in directly to a monitor, what you need probably depends on what sort of inputs it has. < 1419803164 481220 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-9-246.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1419803217 750201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you get composite (the one with a single, typically yellow RCA connector) and S-Video (it uses a mini-DIN kind of thing) out of a N64. < 1419803261 75283 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1419803262 684733 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1419803413 636497 :scrudrv!scrudrv@135-23-185-217.cpe.pppoe.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1419803425 468985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to look into it < 1419803439 720972 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1419803621 636977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some computer monitors I've encountered have had regular video inputs (like composite and S-video), though most probably not. (Especially new ones, since it's all digital all the way these days.) < 1419803774 447037 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can find a relatively cheap monitor with both RCA or SCART and VGA or DVI, I would now be sorely tempted < 1419803836 149966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen any with a SCART (it's so bulky). But I distinctly recall a monitor that had (I think) VGA, DVI, composite video and S-Video as inputs. < 1419803862 528013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although it might have also been a CRT with VGA, the 5xBNC thing and those video inputs.) < 1419803891 23612 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to have a closer look at what cables I need < 1419803894 152457 :scrudrv!scrudrv@135-23-185-217.cpe.pppoe.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1419803978 121843 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, composite analogue video < 1419804009 762512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're going to find a new monitor with those inputs, though you might find an old one. Still, I'm sure you can get a reasonable cheap composite-video-to-VGA conversion box easier. < 1419804099 690136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could get a SGI Indy, it's got a composite video input (IIRC) and I'm sure it'd be worth a lot of street cred. < 1419804341 475401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want to have something that's possibly slightly more future-proof, you might pick up a thing that goes from composite video to, say, a HDMI out. There doesn't seem to be any price difference between those that generate a VGA output and those that do digital, since it needs an active conversion process anyway. But I don't have recommendations for those either.) < 1419804450 715301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would something like http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000P3UB24 work? < 1419804513 141776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for taking a VGA output (from a PC) and plugging to a TV that has a composite video input. < 1419804520 397573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Connect TV-output enabled video cards to your TV's RCA or S-Video connector" < 1419804549 786184 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with a female RCA port? < 1419804565 768080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Composite video cables have a male connector at both ends. < 1419804580 826124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just look at the product description. < 1419804582 9190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your video card or controller supports TV-out function, you can use this cable adapter to connect your PC's VGA port and your TV's S-Video or RCA-composite port. < 1419804585 250035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :***PLEASE NOTE*** < 1419804587 744667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This cable does not add TV-output functionality. If your video card/controller doesn't already have this function, this cable WILL NOT WORK for connecting your VGA output to a TV input." < 1419804703 668730 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That says nothing about whether it works for connecting RCA output to VGA inpuut < 1419804725 987625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it would say something if it did. (It won't.) < 1419804733 687906 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: going to eat food < 1419804738 720038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need an active conversion step in there, not just a passive adapter like that. < 1419804779 306374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1419804782 393765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, judging from the questions I guess that's a possible point of confusion. < 1419804787 749950 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what I am looking for < 1419804839 890932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it will probably look like a box. < 1419804880 543190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, apparently you can also get box-looking things for the other way around. < 1419804941 957239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, what you're looking for is something like http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosteruk-DVD-Composite-S-Video-Converter/dp/B00EXPJVRQ/ref=sr_1_14 or for the digital version http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mini-Composite-CVBS-Converter-1080P/dp/B00HV9PBM0/ref=sr_1_2 < 1419804966 693331 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D1JMAOG/ ? < 1419804969 804604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: the first options I could find, and should not be construed as a recommendation. Although I think I might have seen that latter one somewhere.) < 1419804987 465124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, too. < 1419805005 864588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty similar to my first link. < 1419805053 859421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I think it's the very same thing except with a different (re)branding. < 1419805084 159131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could find a video nerd to tell you which box has the best upscaler. < 1419805106 153820 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, looks it < 1419805244 899390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About "Attention stupid standard authors: if your class includes a bit field of flags, please assign particular bits to particular flags." who failed to assign the particular bits to particular flags? < 1419805293 42409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can deduce that a stupid standard author did. < 1419805300 512187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what standard? < 1419805705 744801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Incidentally, the HDMI version has but a single question: "Q: Will this allow me to use my N64 on my HD PC monitor?" "A: Yes. I am using it right now for that very purpose! Don't forget that you will need to sort something for sound though. (Unless you have a PC monitor with built in speakers of course.)" < 1419805721 790656 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1419805742 791160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot remember if one of my monitors has HDMI input, but I think it does < 1419805809 7367 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I will bookmark that until I get back to York on the 5th < 1419805875 306257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The HDMI box I picked up is composite-only (no S-Video), though. But if you don't have a S-Video cable for the N64 anyway, maybe that doesn't matter. < 1419805879 734464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To "sort" out the sound, you can probably just plug the white/red RCA audio connectors from the N64 AV cable to wherever you want the sound to go, if your monitor does not do anything sensible with the HDMI input's audio side. < 1419805963 455229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This thing about putting speakers in everything is strange. My workstation at work has a built-in speaker somewhere inside the box, but also in the monitor, so I can make both the box and the monitor speak.) < 1419805972 937584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The monitor speaks more loudly, though.) < 1419806141 836750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419806292 739265 :S1!~S1@p4FF93AA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1419806911 328680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1419806961 70618 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust486.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1419806968 373990 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust486.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1419806968 452862 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1419807506 163229 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr JOIN :#esoteric < 1419808465 942273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Hey, is the `thanks thing a Look Around You reference? < 1419808468 365172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ants < 1419808468 953469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ants. Thants. < 1419808778 339131 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1419808801 665068 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1419808824 322797 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1419808962 199871 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. < 1419808993 548467 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one resolve stack overflows < 1419809027 352849 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just a small question As this is my first time having one < 1419809169 230018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :call functions less < 1419809474 42843 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1419809570 339537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use automatic storage duration less, too. < 1419809701 502796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you use for photo hosting? < 1419809767 493205 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been taking more photos recently (no panoramas though) < 1419809797 40678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like some sort of geo tagging integration, perhaps showing location of photo on open street map or something < 1419810026 62880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I use Piwigo for our local for-relatives vacation photos, but it's not good. Neither was Gallery2. For the latter I had a handcrafted map thing. A few things I've just put to Flickr. < 1419810050 517195 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1419810066 564092 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so no real recommendation then? < 1419810132 5261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the run-your-own-gallery software I've found has sucked, more or less. Though they do *work*. < 1419810150 145187 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, any static generator ones? < 1419810178 616169 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to generate stuff statically, much less of a hassle. And I want to keep php off my server < 1419810197 499958 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python or erlang or whatever I can deal with. Not php < 1419810218 464446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only remember trying out JAlbum or something, but it wasn't too good either. Also did work. < 1419810230 290239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1419810236 253993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't evaluated those thoroughly. < 1419810241 766731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part is "not good" about these in general? < 1419810255 43210 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it works and isn't slow or such, what is the issue? < 1419810325 812682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also I forgot what you use to generate the blog at zem.fi. Custom? < 1419810375 399240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both Gallery2 and Piwigo are horrible messes of PHP with terrible admin UIs and (especially for Piwigo) logic. It's also real slow when generating images. < 1419810410 332245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :JAlbum was just very limited. But this was quite a while back. < 1419810421 750580 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1419810434 817035 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is jalbum static pre-generation? < 1419810450 957669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zem.fi is custom, zem.fi/bfjoust is nanoc. < 1419810455 99520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1419810468 532475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may remember the name wrong. < 1419810582 967328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is up with zemhill_'s nick btw? < 1419810648 945604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the bot framework tries to regain nick if it's not available at connect time. < 1419810666 306153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably just a freenode hiccup. < 1419810787 174876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had time to check if it's known bugs are still there after a VPS change, been kind of busy with this move stuff lately. < 1419810789 187527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1419810806 579761 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VPS change? Oh? < 1419810828 673324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switched from Tilaa to DigitalOcean. < 1419810849 547603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only have good comments for both, really. < 1419810932 200676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that my VPS needs are very extensive. < 1419810961 596426 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkmbnghuxgcdisfr PRIVMSG #esoteric :VPS? < 1419811018 325673 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why the switch then? < 1419811027 397634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm pretty happy with linode atm btw < 1419811064 825538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that my site has much on it yet (https://vorpal.se/). That was why I was wondering about the album bit... < 1419811128 59882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It was marginally cheaper for a bit more specs, and they had a new London datacenter, thought I'd give it a try. I think I had some further reasons too. Nothing very substantial. < 1419811139 890485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1419811176 597177 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so our sites share cities then now