< 1418688043 92492 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I wouldn't know, I don't use emacs (or vim either, to avoid starting arguments :P) < 1418688087 882538 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use $EDITOR, nuff said. < 1418688113 583571 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed is the standard editor < 1418688124 130498 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill ask later.. < 1418688130 119107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *can* use ed to make simple edits. < 1418688183 999207 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/SS87Vwe.png I regret trying ed < 1418688192 96043 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who knows vi well can use ed if they remeber which commands are new in vi < 1418688196 704084 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: q < 1418688212 442875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: possibly q! or Q if you actually managed to edit anything. < 1418688234 256453 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed man! man ed < 1418688235 711518 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in /dev with no root I think I'm safe < 1418688264 849744 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ed is world-renown for its informative error messages. < 1418688270 653529 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :renowned. < 1418688275 191125 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use H hth < 1418688334 841361 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl-d seems to work to quit too (unless you've managed to get into some weird mode first) < 1418688366 677129 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just made a two-line text file in ed!
< 1418688371 526843 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the easiest editor is cat. sometimes i write whole programs with cat. < 1418688438 909313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary search is so annoying to implement hth < 1418688462 506999 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :call bsearch hth < 1418688475 807038 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat isn't a very good editor since you can't go back < 1418688481 962901 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imo) < 1418688507 139524 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: that is why you must make up for it by being a great programmer! < 1418688523 213294 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of want to make an editor now < 1418688532 670057 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to cat but more advanecd < 1418688553 933939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: http://sprunge.us/RERS - it's just vi without the visual ;-) < 1418688555 570628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: you can go back on the same line < 1418688560 557791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty advanced < 1418688561 518597 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! < 1418688564 511301 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didny know that < 1418688572 427579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah because terminals are line-buffered < 1418688574 206311 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :using backspace < 1418688582 102457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I just boost your workflow < 1418688586 357574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tripled your productivity < 1418688666 632232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely 'sed -i' is the ed-derivative of choice < 1418688754 527175 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Ed is actually, you know, kinda cool < 1418688763 74219 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it, at least < 1418688835 548460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I did some editing with ed just so I could say I did < 1418688868 643821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good very bad editor. if you'd like a very bad editor I recommend ed < 1418688877 953806 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i am now working on a crude editor which i shall call kitten. < 1418688886 13676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how does it compare to teco < 1418688913 190154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1418688916 139426 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-text-editors < 1418688920 440692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think teco was less horrible to use but weirder < 1418688962 862469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i looked at the teco manual < 1418688964 110872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :<^G><^G> Deletes the entire command string < 1418688964 208775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :<^G> Types current line of command string < 1418688971 796182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely two commands you want close together < 1418688999 462119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mud i played back in 1992 or so had an internal editor that was ed-like. that was my gateway drug to vi. < 1418689091 84564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gateway drugs are meant to be towards worse things < 1418689104 549328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1418689104 888833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like you kicked your meth habit to smoke weed < 1418689112 176476 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was it an lpmud? < 1418689116 352711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: indeed < 1418689162 283155 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ed actually produced helpful (well, sometimes) error messages :) < 1418689176 220697 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized how many gateway drugs I must have taken to get to liking esolangs < 1418689291 536420 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth, Scheme and APL are on the edge... < 1418689293 169269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: completely scrambled your brain, man < 1418689342 618620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|oren\: hm i may have known about all those (possible another lisp instead) before starting esolanging < 1418689344 77793 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick unrelated question - how do I get to emacs without a GUI (in the terminal) < 1418689355 317382 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really think so < 1418689361 846294 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme seems like a completely reasonable programming language < 1418689370 758851 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so does forth too, but for a very specialized purpose < 1418689371 616238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: emacs should be a command? < 1418689382 755968 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts the X version < 1418689386 430822 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL of course was used quite practically but only long ago < 1418689409 197737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: DISPLAY= emacs perhaps? < 1418689412 996926 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP APL < 1418689416 455128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs -nw < 1418689416 498374 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1418689425 372801 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehthanks < 1418689427 891672 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thanks < 1418689429 782774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess elliott gave the better option) < 1418689450 537662 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to learn emacs < 1418689466 938899 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: the point is the < 1418689477 42670 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, my gateway drug to programming was http://roblox.com/ (ofc) < 1418689489 646132 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"standard languages"are all ALGOL derivatives < 1418689506 427926 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418689507 90603 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, at heart they are imperative < 1418689520 619978 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/GI6YACB.png Aaa what did I do < 1418689526 694281 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme is an algol derivative < 1418689533 294401 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they use a complex syntax < 1418689540 749945 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they call it the algolrithmic language scheme < 1418689554 274902 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme is not really, because its syntax is lisp < 1418689593 384790 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have some distant borrowings, but at heart it is functional and lispy < 1418689611 60561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|oren\: i take it you prefer FORTRAN syntax then *runs and hides* < 1418689626 834373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or COBOL < 1418689627 57972 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer assembly syntax /s < 1418689688 186942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't BCPL -> B -> C form its own lineage < 1418689707 969188 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i actually like scheme, but i like it because it is different from the other languages i know < 1418689714 212886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: actually it's because scheme was generated by an algorithm < 1418689752 413184 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, but it ultimately derives from Fortran through ALGOL < 1418689771 166705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sussman was the name of guy l steele's computer < 1418689796 48482 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most modern ALGOL derivatives derive from C it's true < 1418689798 137571 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wp gives an algol -> cpl -> bcpl derivation anyway < 1418689816 634901 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol elliott < 1418689820 198981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've been reading too much hatcher, i keep trying to parse that as an exact sequence of programming languages) < 1418689846 109887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so what's the kernel of algol < 1418689867 828629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever they didn't put into cpl i guess < 1418689900 216821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that would mean that bcpl consists of precisely the parts of cpl that were orthogonal to algol < 1418689907 731532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hence conjuring the spirits of the computer with our spells) < 1418689907 774827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactness means they threw away everything from algol when they made bcpl, yes < 1418690069 416358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have called programs spells and then lint would be a spell checker < 1418690115 423985 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1418690116 487543 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: from now on i will refer to programs as spells < 1418690129 261056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1418690149 241633 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are at least two canons where spells are effectively programs. < 1418690187 67634 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :invoke < 1418690193 653417 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu is one. < 1418690203 601081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sicp isn't a canon < 1418690206 421767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I saying, yes it is < 1418690219 685746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, you can't shoot a canonball out of it < 1418690231 371717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spell invocation canonically presented < 1418690330 698541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Caine Steelman < 1418690443 183373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm severaly mixed up there < 1418690478 755774 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant decide what to work on < 1418690482 762848 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmign related thing.. < 1418690540 198324 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt JOIN :#esoteric < 1418690568 442176 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh how can you remove a program that came with an install script < 1418690589 840400 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run the installer backwards < 1418690596 973272 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genius < 1418690660 925865 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaand it did nothing < 1418690866 368759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm someone should make a solution for clean uninstalls once and for all < 1418690874 955297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :write all installers in burro hth < 1418690886 321311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uninstalls of uncooperative software, that is) < 1418690892 693621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( this is why I typically install software in a dedicated subdirectory in /opt ... which I can then just remove completely.) < 1418690903 458179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's called a virtual machine :P < 1418690919 49737 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, since I can't uninstall this at all < 1418690920 338093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome azazel_ < 1418690929 31041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1418690929 703114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :azazel_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1418690930 283207 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to install the version form the repo and hope to god that it overwrites the last one < 1418690932 821733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1418690943 385426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the overhead like on running every installed program on a separate vm? < 1418690955 195801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that sounds very course-grained < 1418690955 656766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: depends what kind of VM, honestly < 1418690958 695630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google qubes os < 1418690959 478709 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://qubes-os.org/ < 1418690962 424652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also things like < 1418690965 456134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google sandboxie < 1418690966 350918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sandboxie.com/ < 1418690966 464224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Sandboxie - Sandbox software for application isolation and secure Web browsing < 1418690968 110740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*coarse < 1418690969 581296 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do that? Installing programs into a specific folder < 1418690970 710879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can't vouch for the security) < 1418690975 672700 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcomw azazel_ < 1418690976 361345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: relcomw: not found < 1418690976 472345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. I was wondering... < 1418690978 340544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*c[aeiou]*rse < 1418690981 198204 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :With proper paravirtualization, the computing overhead is minimal < 1418690985 267579 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you w < 1418690993 865881 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is the human overhead < 1418691006 579986 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a chroot for some programs < 1418691006 623240 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome azazel_ < 1418691006 853089 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, overwriting it didn't do anything < 1418691008 128346 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srs tho < 1418691008 352036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02azazel_: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1418691010 196808 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only abstracts away the filesystem < 1418691012 6107 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thur < 1418691016 228990 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'abstracts' is the wrong word.. < 1418691017 709618 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purdy < 1418691043 221132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all you care about is uninstalls you can just use linux namespace type things or even just chroots yeah < 1418691080 821193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, lunatic monster... < 1418691087 659487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now pronounce chroot in my head as 'cheroot' < 1418691115 444297 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The revolutionary Che Root (now jailed) < 1418691120 59394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` elcomew azazel_ | rainwords < 1418691120 953922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: elcomew: command not found < 1418691128 906477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, we do have a lunatic monster to destroy. oh and a train that's wreaking havoc in the monastery. < 1418691134 596791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` emoclew azazel_ | rainwords < 1418691135 608046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13(.ten.lad.cri 04no 07ciretose# 08yrt 09,aciretose 02fo 06dnik 13rehto 04eht 07roF) 08.>/gro.sgnalose//:ptth< 09:ikiw 02ruo 06tuo 13kcehc 04,noitamrofni 07erom 08roF 09!tnemyolped 02dna 06ngised 13egaugnal 04gnimmargorp 07ciretose 08rof 09buh 02lanoitanretni 06eht 13ot 04emocleW 07:_lezaza < 1418691159 109373 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im done < 1418691164 431093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.>/gro.sgnalose//:ptth< < 1418691165 986773 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my last two comments may not make sense if your name isn't oerjan.) < 1418691183 192365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I figured out the context pretty quickly < 1418691192 773317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring back people talking about DF and homestuck in here without warning imo < 1418691197 48004 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bot is amazing < 1418691205 497917 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Where’s the ‹e› come from? < 1418691246 558306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :phonetics, whimsy < 1418691298 566093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: bets on whether he intends to fulfil that promise < 1418691315 692383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, what's the catch < 1418691343 604623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess he'd want the book back. < 1418691357 164871 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im dumb < 1418691365 586061 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I say it without. Like “Groot” but with the ‹g› replaced by a ‹ch›. < 1418691367 41171 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared to you guys < 1418691380 210645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch like in bach root < 1418691384 974598 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :azazel_, what is the dumbest thing you have ever done < 1418691411 943337 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta think < 1418691426 264844 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locked myself out of my house < 1418691444 328194 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it?? < 1418691486 788456 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in code i, Made an infinite looper in my bot and it spammed a site and i didnt put anything to stop it in and i got banned ;-; < 1418691489 543772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's yours cluid < 1418691505 686464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, the book. where did the book end up? http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20141210 looks like a magic trick, lots of diversions and poof, the book is gone. < 1418691529 908882 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1418691532 949165 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure < 1418691533 411478 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway, I think there'll be a catch that has nothing to do with the book; perhaps he'll send somebody with her. < 1418691545 800970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: maybe it was forgetting it < 1418691546 375075 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches from afar
< 1418691550 267866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and by "will" I mean "intends to" < 1418691556 855483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw welcome back dulnes < 1418691562 854687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day i left the bag with all my diving stuff on a harbour somewhere < 1418691568 255006 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :still kicking myself for that < 1418691572 548888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because it's not clear to me yet that the monks will cooperate in this plan :) < 1418691694 38735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a monk rebellion does not seem unlikely < 1418691713 556738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, he does have an army there. < 1418691716 287859 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go back to the wiki and look at some haskell stuff cuz i want to be good in it. < 1418691727 6286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably not too overtly. < 1418691784 427710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "fine distraction" ;) < 1418691848 505335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the outcome is wide open. First they'll have to catch that train, and that'll be more fun if as many sparks as possible are involved. :) < 1418691864 716275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1418691897 211487 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :backstabbing, later. < 1418692068 328932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, I wonder whether henkma will produce a 79 characters Collatz parity entry... < 1418692144 920321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i guess violetta took care of it, then. btw do you know if that monster on friday's page is a cameo from somewhere? it feels familiar. < 1418692159 42547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he has three more spaces in their than I have, and only one can be attributed to a ; in my code) < 1418692195 577652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i dunno, i haven't tried that one < 1418692219 33936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, i did < 1418692235 229062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently at 93 chars < 1418692461 409238 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh cameo, I didn't think of that ... hmmm. < 1418693182 638711 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418693305 733633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418693618 57063 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1418694432 365486 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: internet lag < 1418694681 764854 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1418694805 40433 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418694821 546754 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418694919 996159 :bobobobo!~root@user-5af4a113.broadband.tesco.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418695424 989977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418695631 465817 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjzwkqpdecoyawqd JOIN :#esoteric < 1418695836 730344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1418695837 568760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1418695839 486832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicategory < 1418695840 271140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicategories are just categories where composition is only associative up to an isomorphism. < 1418695846 249294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very useful hth < 1418695855 221936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even true? < 1418696082 604656 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be true, i can tell that even though i know nothing about whatever this is < 1418696104 317429 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :two things can't be special cases of each other < 1418696126 924140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately the bicategory entry doesn't say it's a special case of a category < 1418696172 849766 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically does? it says they are "just categories" except for some behaviour that is limited < 1418696217 620642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a category composition is really associative. in a bicategory it's only associative up to isomorphism, which is more general. < 1418696221 821309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not my objection < 1418696233 160617 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418696234 611991 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1418696445 501733 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1418696750 694382 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it looks like WP says bicategories are "weak 2-categories". if that's the case and not all categories are 2-categories, then there are categories that aren't 2-categories, and therefore aren't bi-categories < 1418696763 577494 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418697347 600842 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418697424 862958 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: am i on the right track here? < 1418697734 489728 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so it appears there are two usages of "category", on means things only with arrows between classes, and one means things with arbitrary levels of meta-arrows between arrows. in either case, there are categories that aren't 2-categories < 1418697888 878826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think categories are 1-categories < 1418697930 783601 :bobobobo!~root@user-5af4a113.broadband.tesco.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1418698200 321239 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :HhOw do you keep annxiety attacks away? < 1418698230 305365 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meditate? < 1418698241 339541 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong chhanel ssory < 1418699246 159797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( don't worry ) < 1418699301 487378 :glguy_!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418699330 856150 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge seems to help with anxiety and stress < 1418699383 331272 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im ok now. < 1418699397 740130 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no CrazyM4n thats not helpful at all < 1418699476 20824 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1418699518 716226 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1418699818 517471 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says on the wiki most difficult langauge ever created < 1418699822 706828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418699828 287652 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418700044 275590 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that logic, BASIC keeps anxiety attack away. < 1418700073 155636 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of other infuriating things to do < 1418700087 160863 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I thought of multi-platform bytecode polyglots < 1418700088 950764 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1418700818 695187 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy debugging to worry about anxiety attacks? < 1418700926 425972 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im new to estoric stuff CrazyM4n and i have no idea what you just said < 1418700980 423706 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytecode, like the stuff executables are made out of < 1418700983 930802 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiled files < 1418700986 783492 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like .exes < 1418701006 226928 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you hand created a .exe that works on multiple different architectures < 1418701023 754195 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that'd be anxiety inducing :P < 1418701033 388970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41476&oldid=41465 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-5) 10/* StaPLe */ Remove extra spaces < 1418701083 351812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: one main problem might be different magic numbers. but i don't know. < 1418701193 883440 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.92.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418701208 186477 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, but that'd have to be changed < 1418701216 256733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41477&oldid=41472 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* StaPLe */ Add one < 1418701247 123555 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There could be a loophole < 1418701265 252970 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, you can force linux to execute it by running chmod +x afaik < 1418701325 450634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's not what chmod +x does < 1418701347 594068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it _never_ executes it if it's not, so it has nothing to do with the format < 1418701396 389821 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1418701403 827924 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that it'll execute it anyway < 1418701408 59471 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's marked as executable < 1418701415 609457 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me try something < 1418701417 737177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like this has been discussed here before. iirc DOS .com files have no magic number < 1418701429 993194 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people write .com files by hand, don't they? < 1418701440 936074 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: Not often, but some people do, sure. < 1418701441 842937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1418701445 981347 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep. < 1418701455 784424 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A .com file has no magic number and no real structure. < 1418701504 973425 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"programmer defined structure" < 1418701593 664156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect windows may get away with it because it cares about file extensions for executables, unlike linux < 1418701625 252495 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1418701638 542417 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, com files were just instructions < 1418701644 251930 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually *could* work < 1418701741 855680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo fnord >test; chmod +x test; ./test < 1418701744 845915 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, all *other* executable file formats actually have magic numbers on Windows. < 1418701747 889948 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I was gonna prove a point about every file on linux being maybe runnable < 1418701753 11371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ok < 1418701755 43216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./test: line 1: fnord: command not found < 1418701757 998829 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I tried chmod +x'ing a .png < 1418701767 201467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1418701768 136191 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/gqk8OIt.png I almost want to know what that bottom error means < 1418701770 419173 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Almost* < 1418701786 660027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: the shell tries to run it as a shell script. < 1418701791 186784 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_binary#Combined_COM-style_binaries_for_CP.2FM-80_and_DOS < 1418701793 86115 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's pretty normal weirdness. < 1418701795 88711 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that < 1418701804 636610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but iirc that doesn't work if it isn't run from a shell < 1418701808 971878 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually, it's the libc. < 1418701814 719788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh. < 1418701882 767744 :adu!~user@2601:a:4900:407:c901:c7c6:ac80:b825 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418701919 91442 :glguy_!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy QUIT :Quit: Part < 1418701923 789922 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, all the exec functions but execve run a program in the shell if they don't parse as normal executables. < 1418701932 26336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: i think you got some zalgo in your png hth < 1418701998 10527 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/SWem1kZ.png S͉̜͓͉̳͕o̝͕̣̼͔ ̧͍̘̤̘ͅmu̖͇̳̤̤c͚̜̦̩͚̭̖h͙ ̝͈͈̟̬͖̬z̳͜a̛l͇͉͍͔̥̖̳g̮̤̙̤ͅǫ͖͍ < 1418702023 788654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: at least that means there is a test for "normal executable" that may fail. < 1418702046 813351 :glguy_!~emertens@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418702134 334612 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1418702134 414253 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1418702235 479453 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. The kernel checks for an ELF header, the a.out header (if enabled), the #!, and any registered alternate binary formats. < 1418702253 113957 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And returns an error otherwise. < 1418702548 327101 :adu!~user@2601:a:4900:407:c901:c7c6:ac80:b825 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418702867 822244 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1418703230 26607 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eye sea watt yew did their < 1418703463 763378 :glguy_!~emertens@unaffiliated/glguy QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1418703565 672677 :glguy_!~emertens@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418703859 75438 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves that the kernel has alternate binary format support, FWIW
< 1418703947 59602 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has sooo many switches to disable. < 1418704538 345111 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvwzneyuugixpwzd QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1418704552 946825 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqfaaqtmzudkfuyx JOIN :#esoteric < 1418704560 922812 :glguy_!~emertens@unaffiliated/glguy QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1418704572 571828 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/2pcyy0/letters_by_computer/ < 1418704756 531610 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw dangit < 1418704767 945204 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my client to notify me whenever someone says "geek" < 1418704819 448912 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :7-bit word D: < 1418704931 899306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite, dammit < 1418705436 876624 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1418705558 629760 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know I'm just gonna follow you around random channels and mention the word geek, now, GeekDude < 1418705567 940642 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1418705586 463886 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already get so many hilights from people mentioning geek squad in various help channels < 1418705608 331839 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1418705644 559036 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH CRAP KSP BETA RELEASED TODAY < 1418705651 954508 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to waste my life away < 1418705655 982495 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1418705660 638531 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never played KSP < 1418705667 419993 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also, I got my robots to do a new interesting thing < 1418705686 887871 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That interesting thing is? < 1418705752 85021 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh you can't just leave me hanging < 1418705774 497566 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION leaves CrazyM4n hanging
< 1418705786 920445 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1418705804 349431 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I'm in the process of rewriting a very old piece of software < 1418705814 598214 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said software was written for *shocker* Windows 98 < 1418705823 598327 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rewriting it for linux < 1418705856 111705 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said software allows you to drive your little yellow LEGO Mindstorms RCX robot around remotely, with a webcam feed < 1418705885 408621 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a php script that allows me to control the bot < 1418705898 44155 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a passable webpage < 1418705907 347144 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now I've just gotta figure out webcam stuff, and I'm golden < 1418705950 608675 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can click a button on my website and make the robot move < 1418705962 189360 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got sliders for speed and duration < 1418705996 428115 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1418706000 48609 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far the website looks like this https://db.tt/GcRRnQTx < 1418706015 580094 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :The image on the left will be a feed from on the robot, the image on the right will be from overhead < 1418706016 675990 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to the original program? < 1418706033 122519 :glguy_!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418706060 340119 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.brickvista.com/features/redRover/redRover.html < 1418706090 339662 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1418706102 795966 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you rewriting it? < 1418706121 837510 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you disassembling it? Or intercepting the signals? Or what? < 1418706168 241310 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful study of existing reverse-engineered protocol specs < 1418706181 418695 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mralligator.com/rcx/ < 1418706253 612267 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems nifty < 1418706260 709001 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, we're the last people actually using red rover < 1418706288 733581 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're"? Is this for some sort of research project or something? < 1418706308 949362 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sortof < 1418706317 475035 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a long backstory if you wanna hear it < 1418706343 616107 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1418706395 630035 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in 2010 I joined a "FIRST LEGO League" robotics team. The idea is that you build robots out of LEGO Mindstorms sets that do a certain set of tasks < 1418706422 169483 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? So did I < 1418706436 607631 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :through this, I met our (now sadly deceased) local LEGO fanatic < 1418706464 576870 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before her passing, however, I became one of her biggest assistants < 1418706494 643353 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the things that she did was run the Red Rover on our local college website < 1418706519 200998 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, we eventually lost funding and it was moved to one of my friends house < 1418706589 80746 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since then, the original owner of the Red Rover setup has passed, as I mentioned above < 1418706703 783027 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume that model isn't really supported by anything anymore? < 1418706714 66727 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now my friend and I are the official caretakers of the red rover < 1418706724 373645 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RCX? < 1418706752 944569 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly enough, there are drivers for it included in the linux kernel < 1418706771 866032 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically for it? Or just generic ones that work with it? < 1418706779 589996 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically for it < 1418706789 900079 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that story was actually pretty depressing < 1418706791 709337 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bizarre < 1418706809 410815 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can't you just use those? Or look at their source, at least < 1418706860 590154 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :The drivers just let you control the "IR Tower", but the actual information you send is up to yo < 1418706862 403251 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :you* < 1418706878 414420 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that is quite weird < 1418707000 66778 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, seeing as windows 98 desktop is a relatively bad platform for a webserver, I figured it needed an overhaul of some kind < 1418707019 503006 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since I actually have a bit of experience in web development, I figured I'd give it a go < 1418707129 813663 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like quite a nice project < 1418707224 458331 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a very esoteric project to me < 1418707250 634835 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also reminded of this XKCD https://xkcd.com/1095/ < 1418707330 363256 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1418707360 646335 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we just need a group of one or two people focused on hacking the motors in it. < 1418707364 313823 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically the motors. < 1418707435 546955 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the motors are pretty simple < 1418707448 577715 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're literally just simple DC motors < 1418707452 405538 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even servos :/ < 1418707459 571921 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aturingmachine.com/ < 1418707522 516934 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane_: It won't let me connect < 1418707529 989287 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooo, I was just browsing the internet and found http://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-line-of.html < 1418707546 400650 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love stuff like this, creative coding-esq things < 1418707889 946634 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1418707927 162971 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, good night people < 1418707933 893725 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitr < 1418707935 852258 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :nightr < 1418707938 683726 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight* < 1418707962 856438 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1418707973 87284 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: "sleep" < 1418708272 10314 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.92.110 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1418709382 717030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418709394 193872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418712176 215100 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqfaaqtmzudkfuyx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1418713394 66891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The acoustics lab people had built a shout detector as a gift for a recent graduate, since one of his thesis papers was about shout detection. < 1418713397 160259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was built around an old army helmet (so that it's "robust"), and included a ring of LEDs around the rim. They lit up green when the wearer spoke, and red when he shouted, and there was also a loudspeaker that played out random samples from the shout corpus they had recorded for the paper when he shouted especially loudly. < 1418713402 118197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All driven by a Raspberry Pi. We (a different research group in the same department) have a tradition of having some kind of a pun or a joke in the group gift, too, but that was a bit more elaborate than the norm. < 1418713484 137065 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1418713685 770809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also presented him with a "triploma". See, around here you get a diploma when you finish your master's degree, so it makes sense the doctoral degree includes a triploma. (I'm not sure when you get the monoploma.) < 1418713772 881542 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bachelor's degree? < 1418713776 604639 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :High school? < 1418713842 296556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something like that. < 1418713853 696980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We didn't used to have separate bachelor's degrees. < 1418713984 133289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hebrew a bachelor's degree is called a "first degree" and a master's degree is called a "second degree" < 1418713998 11850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this triploma thing seems reasonable < 1418713999 685414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My course at uni isn't separate but I think most in the UK are < 1418714010 51100 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I am off now to get dinner < 1418714064 921211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days they've "harmonized" things here to include a mandatory distinct bachelor's degree step here too. < 1418714077 840302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, fcolor has broken down again. < 1418714485 543858 :glguy_!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1418715499 343856 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418715669 828676 :azazel_!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmjrydouugdokvxt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1418715725 434806 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418715731 221189 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418715806 280694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418715828 326092 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1418718268 724470 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net 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timeout: 260 seconds < 1418732849 931747 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rello < 1418732888 609830 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poddevicvrjxybpy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418733137 411886 :singingboyo!~g8p8@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418733317 138681 :singingboyo!~g8p8@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418734135 951999 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418734699 508869 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1418734699 610757 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1418734699 654214 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1418735434 922489 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1418735721 423997 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something like pangrams based on pairs of letters? < 1418735811 4420 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what I'm after is a text fragment in which every letter pair that appears in dictionary words (to be defined...) actually appears. < 1418736328 606047 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1418736857 406725 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1418737128 779633 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418737236 371006 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1418737855 358854 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.59.235.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418737874 946140 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418737877 613419 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.59.235.119 NICK :Guest54343 < 1418738060 8248 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1418738640 845062 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stumbled on this little game, where one gets to kern some words manually. http://type.method.ac/ < 1418738659 404943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet is a strange place. :) < 1418738840 620470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739002 195838 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get this game < 1418739002 643645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "Diphonetically complete." < 1418739005 415996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not a real term, I just made it up, and anyhow you wanted graphemes instead of phonemes.) < 1418739009 166376 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does to kern actually mean? < 1418739040 272982 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq_uptime < 1418739040 383963 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :14d 4m 3s < 1418739050 619239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :researchers are allowed to make up terms, it's their job < 1418739057 467104 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh now I get it < 1418739059 728849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ITYM "one gets to kem some words" hth < 1418739227 343028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: kerning basically means to adjust the spaces between letters of a word (to make it look evenly spaced to the human eye). This may involve things like moving an e following a T a bit below the T. < 1418739238 290465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: I'm not a typographer) < 1418739263 340692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't listen to int-e he's an accomplished font designer < 1418739265 385395 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1418739270 928764 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I got it. Got 66 out of 100 points < 1418739272 709420 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AV for instance. < 1418739277 681150 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know what "kem" means, so definitely no. < 1418739334 624226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ironicsans.com/2008/02/idea_a_new_typography_term.html < 1418739350 518592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1418739360 794284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google messes with the kerning if you search for "kerning" or "keming" < 1418739371 173215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks! < 1418739381 334278 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does make sense actually. < 1418739430 872386 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had 77/100, and I completely failed one of them. Not too impressive. < 1418739551 171439 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :59/100. I should try again not on a tablet < 1418739563 744679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think I knew that. < 1418739701 815989 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739720 943304 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739739 138547 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1418739739 181767 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739779 121281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I got a 100/100 for one. (It's also a bit clunky on this tablet.) < 1418739785 731540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm a bit disappointed though that the merchandise is not using an overlap of an r with an n... < 1418739794 411117 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739800 8393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739829 419139 :glguy___!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418739899 421628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't the pronunciation guide for that link in ipa :( < 1418740071 265798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :83/100 as the final score. < 1418740130 669231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not using ipa these days is the dictionary version of not using unicode. who's with me? < 1418740174 637103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares to swat those against. except shachaf.
< 1418740250 827754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In that it's still inexplicably popular not to go IPA/Unicode? < 1418740275 388751 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740275 539061 :glguy__!~glguy@c-71-59-134-118.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740275 759636 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740275 805493 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740276 70483 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740276 167532 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1418740286 341656 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1418740318 998224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: something like that. < 1418740345 77062 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1418740383 633027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. I think Merriam-Webster is anti-IPA. < 1418740388 48445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dislikes it whenever he searches for the ipa pronunciation of a word and it doesn't show up in the search excerpt of any of the hits
< 1418740424 868210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. i used to look at them anyway because they're otherwise pretty consistent but last i tried they've managed to make the _pronunciation guide_ unfindable. < 1418740472 556307 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1418740489 966885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc their argument is that english pronunciation varies too much by dialect, which i guess isn't entirely unreasonable. < 1418740499 37151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't read IPA < 1418740514 678886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do better with the OED's system < 1418740524 66782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This pronunciation respelling key (prə-nun-see-ay-shən ree-spel-ing kee) is used in some Wikipedia articles to spell out the pronunciations of English words. It does not use special symbols or diacritics apart from the schwa, "ə", which is used (for example) for the a in about." < 1418740588 528424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I don't mean the OED proper < 1418740599 422382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that managing not to mark the stress tdnh < 1418740642 444689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, even though it has a notation for it. < 1418740658 116839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1418740673 800162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy-paste obliterated the small caps. < 1418740680 65066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1418740684 671890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was there in the original. < 1418740696 2350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good, maybe. < 1418740720 615010 :Guest54343!~shikhin@120.59.235.119 NICK :shikhout < 1418740726 773067 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.59.235.119 QUIT :Changing host < 1418740726 816931 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1418740728 160151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer systems like that for general use, they're more accessible IMO < 1418740732 199609 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1418740734 368434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I will ever learn IPA < 1418740827 602978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they do vaguely suggest having both. < 1418740885 458439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make a template that constructs both should be easy < 1418740976 996395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the great thing about being known for joking all the time is that you sometimes don't have to decide whether you're joking or not.) < 1418743013 778724 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1418743670 950061 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1418743723 201338 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C < 1418743735 88460 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1418744145 830030 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418744299 861932 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the hardest easy exam i've ever written. it is web programming, plus i was already familiar with php and javascript, and on top of it, it is an open book exam. However, that doesn't mean that it is easy to write PHP and JS with a frikkin PEN for an hour and a half! < 1418744317 728157 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejdqsegfhachcibp JOIN :#esoteric < 1418744326 926731 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't e at least use typewriters? < 1418744360 979190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write in blackletter, that'll show them < 1418744425 872299 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote in my standard chicken-scratch scrawl < 1418744479 899922 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1418744580 250148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1418745174 645544 :S1!~S1@p4FF92887.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1418745542 237853 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1418745876 786039 :oren!~oren@user3-208-191.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1418746093 108239 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP in intaglio < 1418746564 235948 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: rebooting server < 1418746615 153540 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1418746693 144866 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1418747890 913460 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418748147 446248 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418748174 549215 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1418748381 169018 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/win 48 < 1418748417 86459 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418748441 555602 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1418748855 688389 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1418749281 408643 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1418749616 167222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418749637 385540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1418749932 18913 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjzwkqpdecoyawqd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1418749975 774304 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418750159 268422 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1418753063 671728 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-11-86.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1418753473 809798 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418753558 735524 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the modern latin alphabet is stupid. this whole time i thought they were hom clauses < 1418753584 389803 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they were *horn clauses < 1418753629 352203 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-11-86.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1418753735 347958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1418753768 42915 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joy of fractur < 1418753799 385331 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is what led me to this realization. i set firefox to fractur < 1418753889 35895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful there, the nazis might come after you for that < 1418753974 305301 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually any monospace font would help. the problem is that rn is indistinguishable from m in proportional sans fonts < 1418754000 894001 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a kerning thing? < 1418754012 466925 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1418754017 31702 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not true of all fonts < 1418754137 968685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/zpd4XvF.png why would anyone need fraktur? normal text is perfectly readable < 1418754170 798004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraktur still looks cool even if unnecessary < 1418754225 890417 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most fonts then. it is certainly the case in FreeMono < 1418754242 478545 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that zapfino? < 1418754247 150334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1418754251 517450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bestest font < 1418754265 774031 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ist hat zapfino < 1418754279 836114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I lied the first time < 1418754281 66727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes) < 1418754285 423990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can someone give an example of the steepest descent that is not a gradient descent?" I could have sworn steepest descent was a specific type of gradient descent. isn't this question just wrong? < 1418754296 17046 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/041/a/2/zapfino_phoenix_by_Nino2303.jpg my IRC client loks like this < 1418754366 257147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/cyigKDn.png this is getting worryingly tolerable < 1418754369 286252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I actually use this < 1418754384 666109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is so elegant now < 1418754396 540008 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1418754458 977441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a shame the ridiculous ligatures don't work < 1418754464 149688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone make a terminal that can display those please < 1418754518 833459 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also a shame zapfino doesn't have <> chars < 1418754545 646855 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those look like fallbacks to me < 1418754567 562125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they are < 1418754578 11087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1418754594 15540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look too small. + also < 1418754651 28901 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell do different fonts, on the same point size, have completely different sizes? < 1418754653 300472 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-11-86.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1418754760 894798 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418754783 644059 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :artist leeway < 1418754859 871943 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a terminal that rescales each character to fit in a box < 1418755257 357818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried zooming in until a single character is bigger than your monitor. if you can't do that, then you already have such a terminal. < 1418755327 102784 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am getting used to { being ck, [ being ch, } being st and ] being tz. $ is a normal s. < 1418755358 972282 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that is disturbingly tolerable < 1418755371 325480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I wish I was usingn an easier-to-configure terminal emulator < 1418755431 768771 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use xfce-terminal < 1418755443 478082 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1418755597 730794 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/474692 <-- see? if(c==27)ck c=ALT|getch(); st < 1418755695 802590 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Why are you using such a broken font? < 1418755744 954282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is torbrowser not working when i try to search things on torrentz < 1418755746 635103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is awful < 1418755756 66353 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: it is fun to mess people up. someone looking over your shoulder is like What...the..fuck. < 1418755859 882987 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, it works fine if you have good syntax highlighting. < 1418755945 167594 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it make of a *real* ‘ſ’? < 1418755967 205816 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fallback to sans mono < 1418756081 678993 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-173-086.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ‘st’? < 1418756125 729116 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it might be ubuntu mono. http://ctrlv.in/474697 < 1418756157 98779 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are like: < 1418756170 151476 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ulfo st? < 1418756217 875524 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1418756270 646182 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418756389 811855 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bell is a bad ISP < 1418756480 305353 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nmcli doesn't work well < 1418756547 649363 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :combine the two, it means i have to logout and login in order to switch wireless nets < 1418756604 775012 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wireleß < 1418756857 869528 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1418758562 59661 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418759445 54361 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.59.228.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418759481 973602 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.59.228.36 NICK :Guest38946 < 1418759640 991047 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1418759917 964609 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1418759994 804960 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1418759994 848216 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1418760281 655252 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1418760424 598514 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1418760980 912744 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418761011 631307 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1418761579 572544 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1418762454 432680 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1418762487 401547 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i got fed up with the lack of profiles in xfce-terminal. < 1418762499 40573 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-terminal ftw < 1418762931 297376 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418764300 913734 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca NICK :|oren\ < 1418764335 161315 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses roxterm
< 1418764512 23653 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION used a xaccuracy!
< 1418765172 100032 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION s Haxorus used Guillotine!
< 1418765192 775216 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is how i lost a friend < 1418765423 414881 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :back then there was no Fairy remember. < 1418765677 904663 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-11-86.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1418766053 446174 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1418766347 153697 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1418766552 926970 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy QUIT :Quit: Part < 1418766564 19418 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up the song in the background of that screenshot
< 1418766735 760496 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1418766750 449588 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1418766817 792662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f7ioe.c:31:: uavning: iuplicit oeclavation of function ftvuope Q-Dinplicit-fu" < 1418766827 508895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrlv's OCR is not so happy about the font choice. < 1418766941 606261 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uavning? < 1418766969 175655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f7ibe.c:13:6: uavning: unufeb paviable y Q-vunufeb-oaviableg" < 1418766991 739023 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god hahahaha < 1418767034 781356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:47 lelpav oven: why ave you ufing fuch a bvoten font < 1418767041 731786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So bvoten. < 1418767172 216596 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekAfk < 1418767202 453533 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppvo ... 3 with 3 waf ufingn an eafiev-toconfiguve tevninal enulatov < 1418767310 747141 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.152 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1418767397 968817 :|oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oven < 1418767422 78439 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1418767507 699168 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is much more hilarious if you read it out loud < 1418767685 317216 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418767690 607053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Xbony2 5* 10New user account < 1418767761 99922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Xbony214]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41481 5* 03Xbony2 5* (+143) 10Created page with "I'm xbony2. Hi. View my Github [https://github.com/xbony2 here], I mostly make minecraft mods, but play around with other things too sometimes." < 1418767869 764622 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears cursive is just as bad : http://ctrlv.in/474781 <-- manning: compauloon eetween oioned and unaioned Lnteoeu expneooiono < 1418767938 52507 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it do for zapfino? Elliot? < 1418767945 620063 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott? < 1418768001 347392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have my screenshots, you can upload them to check if you want :p < 1418768049 456560 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i can't get it to take the image. < 1418768058 245396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1418768061 499519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably too big or something? < 1418768067 898496 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "that type of image is not supported" < 1418768069 256858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too zapfino < 1418768138 654018 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define oioned signed < 1418768147 12129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about transparent terminals is that you can carefully arrange what people can squint nosily at behind them < 1418768183 919631 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly it is whatever i hppened to be listening too < 1418768277 399478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah same. well here is me just running vi for no reason http://ctrlv.in/474785 < 1418768278 84354 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use youtube as a music player a lot of the time, (except when i need the internet bandwidth for something else) < 1418768403 59815 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the incongruousness (yay i can spell) of that screenshot is awsome < 1418768515 991088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/474788 im JUST using my conmputer < 1418768578 584937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part of creating that screenshot was that installing emacs on my server also installed systemd < 1418768605 169200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1418768641 336685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other greatest part was the youtube recommendations. have you ever wanted to listen to a nightcore remix of late 90s eurodance hit blue by eiffel 65 for ten hours? well, < 1418768837 708862 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1418768864 153559 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1418769360 336318 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have listened to ten-hour videos, but not the kind that are ten hours of the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIBou1U-Sq0 <-- I have listened to this several times < 1418769380 691430 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 hours of the 90's eurodisco < 1418769413 629989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a real ten hour video if it contains ten hours of actual content < 1418769416 96265 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1418769463 669047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of worried my server wouldn't reboot if I tried. it hasn't been rebooted in almost a year. I bet that kernel has so many holes in it < 1418769492 639438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has systemd and stuff now I guess if I tried to reboot it. a new era < 1418769530 400122 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my dad's servers hasn't been rebooted since 2003. < 1418769555 902197 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs AIX which i'm pretty sure doesn't even existanymore < 1418769600 721311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it, uh, do anything? < 1418769612 653133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not running into a single kernel bug bad enough to need a reboot in that time is impressive < 1418769661 824907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not having any important security updates for the kernel, though I guess that would require anyone to care about AIX < 1418769665 398753 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs a system for topologists to announce conferences. it was hacked together in the early 1990's in Perl 4 by my dad < 1418769756 347674 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't run updates or any of that. it still runs perl 4 < 1418769789 384570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIX is IBM, ergo it will never stop existing hth < 1418769828 474066 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other server runs linux kernel 2.0 or something like that < 1418769844 272640 :oven!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the backup < 1418770452 507434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, e||1ott. < 1418770479 811550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: close enough < 1418770569 977736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'p's on the reverse-video Emacs menu bar seem to have been slightly problematic too. < 1418770580 803571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ootions" "LisoInteraction" "Helo" < 1418770647 647329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also didnt recognise the Nightcore - Gangnam Style 10 hours at all < 1418770648 536053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :F- < 1418772248 731392 :augur!~augur@65.205.30.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418772402 696715 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1418772788 32507 :GeekAfk!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1418774013 935679 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1418774384 38243 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer