< 1417046692 512087 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-21-204.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417046826 543992 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-21-204.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417047010 869546 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417047611 615334 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1417047653 886893 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417047869 831364 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1417047905 990266 :tlewkow_!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417048060 46029 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417048263 458227 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1417048891 567587 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417048902 708308 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417049074 833410 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjnetaltiekggqwc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417050072 820132 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417050234 592128 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417050248 773728 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crvkeajoccszpzsn JOIN :#esoteric < 1417051242 878518 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417052138 76482 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417052159 882045 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1417053379 860615 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417053526 975655 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.76.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417053890 18133 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417053916 209686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07And then14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41168 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+466) 10Created page with "This language is like BF, but you need to put " and then" between commands. It works like this: We have our sweet little cute program in BF. +> We add the andthens. + and th..." < 1417053948 70960 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07And then14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41169&oldid=41168 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+8) 10 < 1417053979 326562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07And then14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41170&oldid=41169 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+2) 10 < 1417054076 798403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this has to be a troll. < 1417054086 866183 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417054092 722767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41171&oldid=40755 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+47) 10 < 1417054101 889570 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe it < 1417054115 866236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a joke language < 1417054121 226543 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"define start as this big thing past the colon" < 1417054124 310536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucasieks has been around < 1417054130 543139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i feature it < 1417054137 459340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1417054142 804269 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely < 1417054152 799289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tempting < 1417054158 882863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll be forced to if oerjan doesn't feature something else soon < 1417054187 219659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie agreed to maybe write a blurb < 1417054227 388328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempting to just preemptively block whoever thought AnneFrank would be a good username < 1417054238 273730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about that one too < 1417054286 659561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i kept silent lest i become tempted to make really awful puns < 1417054428 490142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected elliott to snark now, but i guess he's too scared of the possible puns < 1417054453 955174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, if I was scared of your puns I'd have left long ago < 1417054467 224182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you will nazi _these_ coming < 1417054545 528484 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... how2design branch predictor < 1417054573 910458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use organically grown branches < 1417054634 479756 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :architectural target: in order, short mips-like pipeline (5 stages or so), instruction words are 64 bit and are split into 3 instructions of ~20 bits each (load/alu unit, store/alu unit, branch/alu unit) < 1417054646 646070 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially a very small vliw < 1417054659 755760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very small very large, check < 1417054745 428200 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less a 3 way superscalar MIPS except the instruction pairings are baked beforehand < 1417054830 445955 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that you guys would care since you guys only care about networking, encryption, haskell and linux < 1417054912 983016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only care about haskell and puns hth < 1417055002 206736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41172&oldid=40670 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+52) 10 < 1417055018 24436 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my target is something that renders gfx and mixes sound < 1417055079 148169 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it needs a hardware multiplier and some way of drawing textures without wasting a gazillion cycles on cobbling addresses together < 1417055104 712843 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417055117 949411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41173&oldid=41172 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-52) 10Undo revision 41172 by [[Special:Contributions/Lucasieks|Lucasieks]] ([[User talk:Lucasieks|talk]]) (I see nothing wrong with it) < 1417055146 407595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in CPU architectures, it's just anything I say to you would roll right off anyway < 1417055149 632097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I have any expertise at all < 1417055167 422147 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean it would roll off? < 1417055270 862460 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417055304 373925 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbycdlaorrttnomy JOIN :#esoteric < 1417055335 511272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wanted specifically using Haskell involved CPU design, I would prefer to add some stuff so that it is design for Haskell usage; I think something like this has already been done actually. < 1417055374 901932 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : are you telling me that my current design is unsound? :D < 1417055385 755922 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just goes way overboard < 1417055404 582823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1417055411 138225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not adequately qualified to assess your design < 1417055438 68283 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1417055458 856669 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting into the calculation latency etc stuff and only professionals really deal with that :/ < 1417055634 640267 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's hard to tell if a design is balanced and will work, or if it's crippled and will never be fast < 1417055690 870992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can estimate it, but you might not be precise in making an estimation of such. < 1417055691 766727 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make 10000 prototype chips with small schematic changes, have them drive robots, select the survivors < 1417055694 213051 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even intel has failed multiple times at that (iAPX 432, i860) < 1417055760 366214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41174&oldid=41173 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+26) 10 < 1417055860 702166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417055879 126803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41175&oldid=41174 5* 03Ehird 5* (-26) 10if you'd prefer to be unable to edit this page, I'd be happy to block you < 1417056004 451603 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my application (video games), the small, really classic RISC designs have worked well (mips, arm, superH...) < 1417056026 757430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even depend what game though < 1417056055 127426 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how well 3d games do on risc, not that that's a terribly good question < 1417056064 88277 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess n64 was uh... what was n64 < 1417056074 519459 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips? i think playstation was mips < 1417056095 352454 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psx was mips, n64 was mips as well < 1417056102 436860 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps2 was a mips derivative I think < 1417056110 199331 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and PSP as well < 1417056132 42378 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just thinking of all the weird shit in the current gen < 1417056142 938256 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, "reality coprocessor" < 1417056158 961038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current gen is really boring < 1417056164 831442 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sega 32x, saturn and dreamcast were superH < 1417056166 41116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just x86. okay plus the wii u < 1417056171 125172 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i mean yeah. < 1417056178 967791 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"risc losing out??" < 1417056181 479827 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :handhelds are like all ARM < 1417056248 491541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that sounds pretty logical < 1417056365 115101 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing really special about RISC, it's just a well balanced family of architectures in general < 1417056445 614803 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to write headlines here < 1417056521 433825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a leg up with ARM hth < 1417056566 969659 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417056585 118630 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417057031 713273 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417057224 24974 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.202 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417057249 571303 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417057395 13234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fromEnum" is terribly long... < 1417057442 321751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Newton14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41176&oldid=40041 5* 03Lucasieks 5* (+114) 10 < 1417057456 897029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it is. < 1417057489 543159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's my third 183 character non-cheating Dominosa. < 1417057518 543961 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the other two are very similar, but each changes something non-trivial) < 1417057848 327387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a point where i though a short fromEnum would have helped, but i no longer think so. < 1417058759 965616 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:511c:3a9f:e66a:a025 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417058783 760639 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417058790 941304 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1417058811 710760 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417058952 66412 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.202 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417059016 933335 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:511c:3a9f:e66a:a025 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417059155 517018 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-113-21-204.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417059364 838235 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-21-204.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417059617 224004 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lnging for the days of the SNES, eh? < 1417059798 955314 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417059875 77474 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crvkeajoccszpzsn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417059918 393803 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :snes has a lot of cool games < 1417059939 26060 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F-Zero < 1417059965 394879 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe that paraglider game. < 1417059985 8211 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 NICK :AndoDaan < 1417060011 829135 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still play those sometimes. < 1417060015 523559 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you can't do anything so you have to keep your game small < 1417060027 655138 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Fox_2 < 1417060031 208336 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means if you spend as much time it's more polished < 1417060059 589274 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constantly bitched it after 3stages in StarFox me. < 1417060116 680143 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do a barrelrole until my fingers bleed, but it's never enough. < 1417060121 285424 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :emulating this thing must be a pain in the ass, i just realized < 1417060162 81501 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to design a vm that's easy to emulate but can also run fast IRL < 1417060186 588330 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't allow people to plug in games with custom coprocessors in them, then < 1417060201 842877 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.83.24 QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1417060364 91633 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417060540 577328 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417060720 836065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah I think I understand your trouble regarding the search order. < 1417060765 710107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :177, getting there. < 1417061042 913354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, 175 non-cheating, 164 cheating slightly. yay. < 1417061179 267344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny statistics though. (I won't bother with the slightly cheating version) < 1417061184 741710 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417061264 382770 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: surely there must be *some* room for optimization. < 1417061273 598804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dominosa small seems like hell < 1417061289 827212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I disagree, obviously. < 1417061322 181021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can solve a problem while thinking it's hell < 1417061327 159325 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a kidn of pizza < 1417061344 582579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well I didn't think it was hell because I approached it as a compression problem. < 1417061360 193182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure if you cheat :p < 1417061373 870147 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417061375 742463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that approach, it's not a cheat < 1417061385 628411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, fair enough. < 1417061427 916888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can see that I also stuck to my previous convention of using "alt" to mark the alternative approach to the problem that is not data compression ;-) ) < 1417061433 663859 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417061446 941430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though that's not a very firm convention) < 1417061458 563578 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1417061459 269335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1417061464 992004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant that what you did wasn't actually cheating < 1417061483 218721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should really mark "data compression" solutions :p < 1417061489 900577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, that's what I said. < 1417061530 70816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok. I can't figure out whether you mean you use a different definition of "cheating", or whether you actually solved the problem in a way everyone would consider non-cheat but that still approaches it as a data compression problem. < 1417061552 230601 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's too much hassle, because I *will* accidently submit an improvement under the plain "int-e" nick at some point. < 1417061590 862834 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as can be seen in Wow, where I tried sticking to (boring) and (alt) throughout.) < 1417061675 935268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1417061734 854109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that 798-byte Python solution to Wow. < 1417061742 634364 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm bending the notion of cheating. Anyway, I was initially answering your claim that Dominosa was hell. By never trying not to cheat (in your terminology ;-) ), it turned quite pleasant. < 1417061752 358152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pinnacle of golf. < 1417061753 99052 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/turned/turned out/ < 1417061816 348460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh yes, I particularly like the space between print and " < 1417061824 605684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and of course, the nick that goes with it. < 1417061830 282364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you're not going to try, why bother trying? < 1417061839 467151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliminating the space would be a bit pointless. < 1417061853 544272 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's the salt in the soup. < 1417061871 252687 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's so fundamentally against any golfer's instinct. < 1417061874 651149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should submit an answer like that to every problem < 1417061883 963753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sys.stdin.read() == '...': < 1417061886 253487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : print ... < 1417061887 235607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elif ... < 1417061903 295886 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, eliminating superfluous whitespace is the first thing you do, before you even start thinking about imrpovements. < 1417061924 292661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think printing a huge constant string with escapes is also against any golfer's instinct :p < 1417061945 716971 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.anagolf.org/ hm < 1417062010 836791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: you know the correct link, right? < 1417062047 158247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me guess, ANA = All Nippon Airways? < 1417062068 657787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not :) < 1417062127 776267 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would an airway golf < 1417062155 671609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can sponsor pretty much anything you like as an airway. < 1417062177 284705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: surely there must be *some* room for optimization. <-- perhaps. i went through several improvement iterations already. < 1417062191 762406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: http://www.ana.co.jp/anaopen/ hth < 1417062476 975792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one point that didn't feel necessarily optimal, though. < 1417062594 559273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there's always the possibility we've missed different ones < 1417062724 986348 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn JOIN :#esoteric < 1417062740 618744 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arent we all pikhq_ < 1417062839 831089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map length ["notElem","all(/=)"] < 1417062840 874209 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [7,7] < 1417062859 958112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall checking that before :) < 1417062882 511559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that could explain 4 alphanums difference < 1417062896 215923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417062956 256617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps our approaches are really different < 1417062980 213024 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :always a possibility < 1417062987 443422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just hard to imagine ;-) < 1417063012 635394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, coming up with different approaches is hard. < 1417063040 461485 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i'll remember this the next time i need to explain kolmogorov complexity < 1417063068 802359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of another variation with equal length that might give you 4 more symbols < 1417063080 370534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly even 5 < 1417063085 875742 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Like the McCarthy thing, where the fundamental idea was to use strings of ")" as unary numbers, instead of an Int counter. When I found that, that's when I said "McCarthy is beautiful" < 1417063112 264066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures, because i never did < 1417063182 366878 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417063594 267221 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417064202 491802 :CrazyM4n_!~spng453@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417064431 87926 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:And then14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41177 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+653) 10complaining < 1417064442 224414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:And then14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41178&oldid=41177 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+95) 10 < 1417064556 746312 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417064570 20114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:And then14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41179&oldid=41178 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+4) 10corrected perl code < 1417065876 868451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orenwatson14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41180 5* 03AnneFrank 5* (+28) 10Created page with "Goodness me brainfuck indeed" < 1417065923 560333 :CrazyM4n_!~spng453@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1417065965 951722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :temptation to block rising < 1417066032 414682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417066451 145376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orenwatson14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41181&oldid=41180 5* 03AnneFrank 5* (-20) 10 < 1417066497 941850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1417066504 965125 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1417066546 3067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a strange edit? < 1417066547 673236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orenwatson14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41182&oldid=41181 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+144) 10reply to confusing message. < 1417066554 62915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10blocked [[02User:AnneFrank10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (autoblock disabled): please pick a different username < 1417066725 14570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BillGates 5* 10New user account < 1417066738 250583 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only see this going well < 1417066771 662456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1417066791 909395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempting to block again to see what they come up with next < 1417066805 164110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this brings back memories... of xbill < 1417066850 235336 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10indefinite (autoblock disabled): that one was funny, let's see what you can really do < 1417066853 697072 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i guessed right < 1417066877 278123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :faking the colour, dedication < 1417066945 788878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well BillGates is borderline but it will maybe fall on the wrong side of the border when they make another bizarre edit < 1417066950 609483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although wikipedia would block that name in an instant < 1417066971 917748 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:BillGates14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41183 5* 03BillGates 5* (+121) 10Created page with "How do you create a throw/catch error for perl or am i mistaken on the panguage? im probably mistaken but if im not help" < 1417066981 186056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BillGates < 1417066981 739935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's username policy. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here? < 1417066985 956525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bill Gates is the name of a well-known living or recently deceased person which is a violation of the username policy. < 1417066999 66860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:BillGates14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41184&oldid=41183 5* 03BillGates 5* (+0) 10 < 1417067050 357931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10blocked [[02User:BillGates10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (autoblock disabled): I meant a username that doesn't impersonate anyone living or dead other than yourself, please < 1417067071 692620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the "or recently deceased" part. < 1417067083 142882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern. < 1417067105 139694 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a second i thought you meant you were copy pasting wikipedia's mention to this peep < 1417067122 640925 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fun if it were the real Bill Gates. < 1417067133 565056 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youf ucked up, elliott. you fuckued up < 1417067147 327908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and simultaneously the real anne frank? < 1417067147 767948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Josaphine O'Conner 5* 10New user account < 1417067156 300971 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Soul wandering? < 1417067176 12167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Josaphine O'Conner a corruption of some well-known name or something < 1417067183 22245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41185 5* 03Josaphine O'Conner 5* (+39) 10Created page with "Better? i used my name if you dont mind" < 1417067184 579284 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can see < 1417067187 14952 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1417067189 943483 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that works < 1417067203 650269 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh google. "Josephine O'Conner Death Records - FindTheBest Genealogy" < 1417067207 199757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wrong O'Conner < 1417067207 342890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By: RoyalPurple4 < 1417067207 343030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to Brian Josephine's life is in danger, and some of Bragas men are on the hunt for O'Conner and Toretto. They will do anything to protect their family, even if it means getting Jack involved. (This is one of these kinds of stories that you write late at night, and decide to post. I apologize for any errors in the writing.) < 1417067216 917640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks google < 1417067245 235319 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foreignaffairs.com/author/josephine-oconnor-howe oh ho < 1417067256 14534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, flagrant. < 1417067275 783950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:BillGates14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41186&oldid=41184 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+212) 10answered question. < 1417067289 698956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1417067292 465907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be such a mess < 1417067301 80466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone, like, merge those pages < 1417067315 207072 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be you < 1417067371 256545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I hadn't just said that, yes < 1417067394 208075 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played < 1417067398 555500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41187&oldid=41185 5* 03Josaphine O'Conner 5* (+127) 10 < 1417067409 160665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know! Put them in a Web Ring! < 1417067422 128293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ;_; < 1417067459 157464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we being watched... I'm mostly kidding with all this. < 1417067481 561364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the real bill gates and he has the NSA monitoring us............... < 1417067482 38552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41188&oldid=41187 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+424) 10answered question (on her new user page). < 1417067606 180628 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417067624 384669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyway, this gives the excellent illusion of making it look like the wiki was really active today < 1417067636 771267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Oren < 1417067638 798194 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Oren: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1417067664 372042 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1417067679 339499 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So it's Much Ado about Nothing? < 1417067680 568070 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've been watching < 1417067681 583634 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting < 1417067697 22009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lurking < 1417067706 814534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the prey has arrived and we're ready to leap < 1417067709 137726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would inflate it even further? oerjan featuring a new language < 1417067716 85916 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weltanschauung < 1417067749 637379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417067762 349051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41189&oldid=41188 5* 03Josaphine O'Conner 5* (+273) 10 < 1417067799 453977 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm digging this < 1417067829 565537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im going to be a detrament to this community", really? ... (and I don't mean the typo) < 1417067866 294729 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbycdlaorrttnomy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417067867 973347 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an actual detriment to the community, i'm watching the competition carefully < 1417067924 971465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shakes head fretfully at this channel
< 1417067929 334915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, my first thought when seeing the question was "this is not stackoverflow". < 1417067930 429539 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try and answer her issue... < 1417067968 443192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41190&oldid=41189 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+329) 10 < 1417068074 806357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... them esolangs < 1417068139 225043 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, them brainfuck-clones... http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:And_then < 1417068150 392675 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YABFC < 1417068173 747259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have been despairing brainfuck clones for pretty much the entire seven years I've been here :p < 1417068178 594293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*despairing of < 1417068211 610079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly your perl script cannot reproduce And then because of the "mandatory header" if nothing else. < 1417068220 828793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it was added to the _joke_ language list and not the real one. < 1417068245 415930 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been here long and I'm already like 絶望した! < 1417068265 609042 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time I see a bf clone < 1417068282 798362 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zetsuboushita.gif < 1417068315 726689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get numbed to it < 1417068331 618482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly most of the non-BF clones aren't that great either < 1417068348 951738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I "agreed", but didn't get anything done. Huge surprise there. Maybe today! < 1417068393 840071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you get the memo? we're going against the process and featuring And then immediately, for the rest of time < 1417068453 156105 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417068465 950268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41191&oldid=41190 5* 03Josaphine O'Conner 5* (+189) 10 < 1417068517 217913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1417068542 975900 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is she being DDOS'd by hakkers on steroids? lol. < 1417068608 270183 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about those turkeys < 1417068682 764891 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also do some of these bots work or are they users who are names that < 1417068696 810968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what? < 1417068717 686678 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glogbot < 1417068724 406008 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot < 1417068724 624134 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had turkey at thanksgiving dinner... it was delicious cooked by my aunt. I live in Canada but my aunt lived most of her life in Boston... < 1417068729 620737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot does the codu.org logs < 1417068734 9691 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1417068735 409258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot... does something. I forget what. < 1417068739 973684 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :applys < 1417068741 160458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :applies, probably. < 1417068744 588487 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1417068745 831688 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it started with an m < 1417068748 189941 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some proofy language < 1417068752 999959 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :miranda? < 1417068759 570790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mumps < 1417068767 502201 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mumps. < 1417068772 874775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it hol light or isabelle or something < 1417068775 649676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1417068777 75797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe misar??? < 1417068778 808004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mizar. < 1417068779 583351 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesnt Canada have October thank give < 1417068782 302675 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isabelle sounds right < 1417068787 474984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :misabelle < 1417068798 160663 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i THINK it srats with an m, asshole < 1417068807 754955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also some bots that don't have "bot" in the name. for instance clog, and Bicyclidine < 1417068819 319315 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1417068837 526587 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Botcyclidine < 1417068852 378576 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct. oct 12 is canada thankgiving. but some people in my family are form america, so we celebrate both. < 1417068863 831076 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/form/from < 1417068872 150078 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net NOTICE #esoteric :To comply with IRC standards, this interface will now prevent botloops via standard mechanisms. < 1417068881 792686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.@quit < 1417068889 553444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...almost didn't put that . in < 1417068898 516334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a responsible lambdabot admin who is not at all forgetful < 1417068909 755726 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1417068911 164945 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://room208.org/qdb/334 good times < 1417068957 136795 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slowly closes my many tabs < 1417069029 515926 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is cannabalism bad? < 1417069038 314702 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 50/50 < 1417069051 807895 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to get terrifying diseases < 1417069061 21768 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you're eating other people. < 1417069073 155075 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont eat the brain < 1417069082 352164 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of chemicals < 1417069094 91857 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, that's another thing in that book, it wouldn't have covered kuru either < 1417069100 901354 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such < 1417069104 323901 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book on neurobiology of disease i almost bought and have not mentioned to you before this point < 1417069110 651970 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can prions be transmitted if the meat is cooked to gray? < 1417069129 71630 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm < 1417069138 400336 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dead prions are still bad < 1417069139 940148 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably denature them < 1417069156 835172 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor alchohol on it < 1417069172 271403 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they squiggle out < 1417069184 961067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the british ought to know after that mad cow thing < 1417069186 46185 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaeh, i was thinking about the denaturing of the proteins. < 1417069201 334527 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was reported in January 2011 that researchers had discovered prions spreading through airborne transmission on aerosol particles," well, just give up < 1417069212 204750 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww crap < 1417069214 77224 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hhh < 1417069221 338367 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats crap news < 1417069227 473404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad we're finally getting around to having the mature, channel-wide discussion about vore we've all been waiting for < 1417069227 843881 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO recommends "Immerse in a pan containing 1N NaOH and heat in a gravity-displacement autoclave at 121 °C for 30 minutes; clean; rinse in water; and then perform routine sterilization processes" < 1417069231 800949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: i see good opportunities for a zombie plague here < 1417069241 594325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: for eating human meat? < 1417069251 873648 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1417069252 97653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to believe the WHO has recommendations about that and you can't convince me otherwise < 1417069255 875997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :routing sterilization processes means burning it, right < 1417069259 111041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*routine < 1417069275 787096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: world humanitatian organization < 1417069283 52155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*humanitarian < 1417069283 206763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sauteeing, actually < 1417069288 498460 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravity displacement autoclave? < 1417069291 443765 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably means dunking it in burning alcohol < 1417069295 726427 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoth wikipedia: "[The prions'] structural stability means that prions are resistant to denaturation by chemical and physical agents, making disposal and containment of these particles difficult." < 1417069309 124995 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: an autoclave that works by letting the steam out through gravity < 1417069313 178574 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1417069314 389438 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunking it in burning alcohol? fancy restaurants do that. < 1417069320 609451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine is better informed, I see. < 1417069324 698806 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got that backwards, the steam comes in from the top and sinks down < 1417069336 884645 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1417069349 19528 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing with autoclaves is they have to remove the air somehow, see < 1417069375 713439 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mature channel wide discussion of vore? what do you mean elliott < 1417069381 116980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Broad_billed_prion.jpg can't be denatured < 1417069384 701114 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you use @quit once, it'll come back. if you use it again too soon, it will stay away. < 1417069401 283897 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just < 1417069414 148281 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretyt sure i could denature that bird. < 1417069416 4067 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put your meat in a fireplace then < 1417069421 845715 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might violate some ethics rules in the process, but hey < 1417069423 75623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: I have no idea how to adequately answer your question < 1417069432 178690 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1417069433 542512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't fuck fireplaces though < 1417069435 363463 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't cook an omelette without boiling a few vertebrates < 1417069440 873005 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vore = fetish for eating people. I saw actual evidence of this fetish in Akihabara... Never again. < 1417069442 36478 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat < 1417069456 476485 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats a thing? < 1417069463 595483 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you sweet child < 1417069485 906750 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont often scroll deep web < 1417069491 182935 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is. I have seen too much in this short life... < 1417069495 259946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, I think I'm going to officially decree vore as off-topic for #esoteric < 1417069509 442958 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1417069512 262042 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even do that? < 1417069517 599398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try < 1417069519 231451 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :The topic is visual studio < 1417069560 229454 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well i think ive seen worse than vore then < 1417069564 65030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see Dulnes hasn't learned about rule 34 yet < 1417069571 12579 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 63 < 1417069581 109928 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember using visual studio < 1417069583 582448 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have < 1417069592 30289 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just dont browse < 1417069598 970133 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrote a web portal for my dragon cars eating each other fetish community < 1417069600 616967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan got the rule right the first time < 1417069619 945934 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: why?! < 1417069623 433841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea, let's talk about literally anything else < 1417069630 916907 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nop < 1417069645 946131 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1417069649 78361 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who here still likes Visual Basic? < 1417069660 914540 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1417069668 285323 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still nostalgic for it < 1417069677 368470 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before .net < 1417069683 747655 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you nostalgic for it < 1417069694 981814 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was young and formative*, i read a 21 days VB book that had a line about C programmers always having to play catch up to VB programmers < 1417069700 782454 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for what was happening in your life at the time < 1417069735 647615 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets talk Bout < 1417069742 88776 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :War < 1417069742 231837 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved the drag and drop interface. If only someone made something like that for PHP/JQueryUI < 1417069746 886002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: is the footnote ever going to come < 1417069751 976062 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it was very convenient < 1417069752 403044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with elliott < 1417069772 110472 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :The drag and drop was handy < 1417069782 290085 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i am probably using this word wrong, but i only care enough to mark an asterisk and write this out, not enough to look it up < 1417069807 741337 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :later i used blitzbasic and it didn't have drag and drop ness < 1417069809 286940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: you could at least have written formaline < 1417069822 101823 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, laterer, i used matlab's interface generator, which is very similar to VB < 1417069837 103631 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably uses the same... something < 1417069837 966953 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latererer than that? < 1417069853 438626 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the matlab thing was a few months ago < 1417069859 68528 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1417069864 623502 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm then < 1417069877 670716 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that i joined the peace corps and died attempting to invade honduras? what do you want me to say < 1417069907 839331 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember dial up < 1417069911 923536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that more like a war corps thing < 1417069963 659947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the fresh smell of organically harvested rubber roasting in the morning < 1417069972 864150 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1417069976 323011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhh, the 90s < 1417069983 268530 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1417070009 312876 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you organically harvest rubber? just like... poke a tree? < 1417070024 397616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: without GMOs < 1417070028 441111 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set fire to rubber wood < 1417070059 891652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: btw I'm sorry to report this channel is usually less out-of-control than this < 1417070068 148681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it seems to catch fire when new people join < 1417070072 929488 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh question when did you start coding elliott < 1417070081 812599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Newton14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41192&oldid=41176 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10fmt < 1417070087 825169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2004ish, when I was about 8. < 1417070115 372624 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm < 1417070119 368510 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1417070124 71719 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :How old are you < 1417070127 752179 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're younger than me! < 1417070130 98772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: what a question. "The latex is a sticky, milky colloid drawn off by making incisions into the bark and collecting the fluid in vessels in a process called 'tapping'." < 1417070130 412696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I did some things with, like, typing out BASIC programs into old computers before that and the like, but not really much in the way of original programming. < 1417070134 442546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 19. < 1417070137 186855 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that math is not hard, peep < 1417070144 760823 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so, poking it. < 1417070159 282051 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im always confused on years i forget time aloy < 1417070162 260682 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alot* < 1417070176 708407 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1417070181 877302 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :19?! < 1417070187 386194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: well, 2014-(2004-8) gives the wrong result. < 1417070188 871773 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much youth < 1417070192 210351 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually twelve. < 1417070194 463099 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: close though < 1417070201 189489 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 21 < 1417070207 909034 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you can drink in the US either way, probably < 1417070208 866701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: I felt a lot younger when I first joined here and I was 11 :/ < 1417070211 315030 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :im 25 < 1417070213 117018 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it vote < 1417070219 568533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :US drinking age is 21 < 1417070224 626456 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, really < 1417070231 787496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, right? your country is weird < 1417070231 931186 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they manage < 1417070245 404948 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your parents must be very lax to let you internet at 11 < 1417070246 505603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright this time I be the brit and you be the american < 1417070247 14347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orenwatson14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41193&oldid=41182 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+49) 10unsigned < 1417070264 46371 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :'murica < 1417070264 189292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orenwatson14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41194&oldid=41193 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10oops < 1417070267 46106 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fires revolvers into the air* < 1417070270 782151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: I had internet for years before that. < 1417070286 29337 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again much youth < 1417070298 769600 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill probably die at 34 < 1417070316 729678 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since i have seizures and such medical issues < 1417070318 700175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:BillGates14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41195&oldid=41186 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+50) 10unsigned < 1417070334 687763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks < 1417070337 539048 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spend it wisely < 1417070350 116876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any of my medical issues are likely to significantly shorten my lifespan < 1417070351 513090 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about vore on the internet < 1417070371 235380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not generally considered a medical issue Botcyclidine < 1417070404 830980 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you haven't seen the new DSM < 1417070443 329699 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seizures & Brain cancer are probably the top two that are going to kill me < 1417070445 310331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they remove most of the paraphilia stuff < 1417070449 310040 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to my statistical groups I am most likely to die of suicide. < 1417070458 784453 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slaps oren < 1417070460 794292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1417070471 175443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1417070473 36654 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys dont talk bout suicide < 1417070476 325758 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shhh < 1417070478 37765 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1417070487 754900 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHHH < 1417070494 676189 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing something here < 1417070499 676468 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways different topic < 1417070510 604118 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1417070514 637313 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1417070515 14343 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I got something actually, just a sec < 1417070517 131353 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer fatal morbidity to Visual Studio support. < 1417070527 178237 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1417070530 327020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Josaphine O'Conner14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41196&oldid=41191 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+177) 10unsigned < 1417070530 969257 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/neuroecology/status/537790766178136064 < 1417070547 330399 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so long as you don't give me flashbacks to that attic in Akiba. < 1417070549 94102 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaves internet < 1417070574 7824 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :msvc vs gcc... so many ways to interpret the same c++ standard < 1417070584 132565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret vore attic < 1417070586 582821 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unplugs modem and dips it in hydrochloric acid < 1417070603 566872 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez mon, didn't know you were so sensitive about computational neuroscience < 1417070609 717595 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also someone should be punched for 32 bit long in 64bit msvc vs 64bit in 64bit gcc < 1417070614 802480 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea who but someone < 1417070636 519591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :long should be 64-bit with mingw I think? < 1417070644 696766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of things would break if it violated the platform ABI < 1417070654 847528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "Of course people eat people. Which part of 'omni' in 'omnivore' didn't you understand?!" ) < 1417070683 697605 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: not secret. you literally go to top floor of any store in akihabara and go upstairs. don't go to the top floor of any manga store... ever. < 1417070686 628599 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death isnt really a topic for me since im going to Die in 9 years and leave my kids behind. < 1417070716 891597 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: never really used mingw directly but if I'm not mistaken it has a mix of posix ABI stuff and win32 ABI stuff < 1417070743 691375 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, gcc link system but it also has to deal with msvc generated dlls to be useful < 1417070744 405254 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use int64_t if you need a particular bit length. < 1417070744 548425 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night guys < 1417070761 725351 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or int32_t or whatever < 1417070766 695199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: if it had 64-bit long then calling functions in libraries not compiled with mingw would be kinda bad < 1417070778 94747 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think HCl would be good for disposing of modems, btw < 1417070783 883755 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what it does < 1417070789 770772 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably has a switch < 1417070803 802099 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubbles hydrogen gas... don't light a match < 1417070821 754149 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or boom hindenburg < 1417070829 424603 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, but i mean it's notterribly efficient destruction wise < 1417070856 757809 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seetee < 1417070864 894261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Dulnes's irc client has the /me command
< 1417070873 967933 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : windows/posix mixes are usually kinda insane, too < 1417070878 699815 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: cygwin < 1417070888 971058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i DO USE mINgw FOR MY OWN PROGRAMS < 1417070897 168180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do use MinGW for my own programs < 1417070915 853744 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the capslock key still exist < 1417070923 57636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To type in all capitals < 1417070930 673625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: Why do you type in all lowercase then? < 1417070932 208582 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have something to hit to turn on my mic. actually no zzo's answer is better. < 1417070951 634700 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can compile non-win32 executables in cygwin < 1417070958 28296 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ELF binaries I think) < 1417070960 556367 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run them < 1417070961 616349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the light on my keyboard to indicate caps lock is broken < 1417071002 943685 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i type in all lowercase because i see no reason to press shift when i would be fully understood even if i did not. < 1417071069 325533 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: there are two x64 ABIs (microsoft/msvc and posix/gcc) < 1417071092 27830 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's retarded < 1417071107 65624 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i set capslock to shift into japaneseたとえば、これ。 < 1417071202 558218 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting to calculate the number of manhours lost to the win32 vs posix differences actually < 1417071219 753095 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably "lots" < 1417071255 113207 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting with every time i have to convert \r\n to \n < 1417071302 621183 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C:\\blah\\afsf to /blah/afsf < 1417071312 959044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I try to write program to avoid such things, when they are needed I can use #ifdef and that stuff; for example to change stdin/stdout into binary mode if the program is using it < 1417071330 20313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: In Windows the C functions can you backslash or forward slash both are acceptable < 1417071354 95993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can use fopen(...,"wb") it selects binary mode; on UNIX it is treated the same as "w" < 1417071424 441842 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Dulnes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvlllG1FwjI revise your disposal strategies < 1417071424 622332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417071485 349466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Skip to 4:20 for the burst." I always skip to 420 < 1417071509 132762 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we all < 1417071523 147837 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it looks like it's caused by pressure buildup anyway < 1417071601 998507 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom was all proud when I smoked pot for the first time. made me never want to do it again - what's the point if your mom doesn't hate it? < 1417071704 183020 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never did it again after that. < 1417071752 20988 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i mentioned #drugz to my parents my mom related drinking booze through a catheter. < 1417071759 777888 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : yeah that's the basics of it but there's much more gory fallout < 1417071789 177817 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like utf-16 vs utf-8 filename handling < 1417071858 954963 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or abs() being integer on gcc (you're supposed to use fabs() instead, and it also interacts with the C/C++ divide) < 1417071898 63274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just always use ASCII filenames and avoid that issue < 1417071915 282880 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, caps sensitive filenames < 1417071933 38775 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fine until your clients in Japan and Europe are yelling at you. < 1417071987 160112 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because esmé.doc isn't uploading < 1417072032 623315 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your program gets installed to a path that has é somewhere in the folder name < 1417072034 631536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an esme joke < 1417072048 845370 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1417072064 390306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even know about esme < 1417072076 775508 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you write a python 2 script. é appears somewhere. the whole thing crashes < 1417072089 813408 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have lurked on the wiki for ~three years < 1417072090 378175 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry but that's retarded) < 1417072123 976169 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about the brainfuckiest < 1417072147 747224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It crashes because an incorrect character appears somewhere? That's certainly not good, it should just treat them as any other bytes in the input file are, and therefore don't crash. < 1417072167 899158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside of an identifier it could display an error, but in a string literal it should be permitted. < 1417072178 325411 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : yes but obviously python2 was designed by an idiot < 1417072204 413653 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory you're supposed to use a different string type < 1417072205 714928 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried using eight bit characters for some ascii hardware i had and kana came out < 1417072207 110472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is. < 1417072209 495581 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme tell ya, that surprised me < 1417072239 266309 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, aint nobody have time for that < 1417072247 768144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botcyclidine: That is because you have to use the correct character encodings, clearly. < 1417072261 618540 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiragana or katakana? some old japanese computers mapped kana to some of the upper 128 chars < 1417072263 245327 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turned out not to be ascii, indeed < 1417072265 106403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Do you mean normal strings are 7-bit character strings? < 1417072287 980110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII is only 7-bits so 8-bit character sets, if they are ASCII, are actually extended ASCII. < 1417072297 291992 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: kana. after some searching i found out it's a typeface particular to the kind of screen. it was almost shift-jis but not, so frustrating < 1417072314 58107 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIS_X_0201 probly < 1417072326 502049 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically if é appears anywhere, the default string operations in python2 cause an exception and stop the program < 1417072355 392818 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... nope. lemme grab it again < 1417072361 642199 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I'm glad I use perl despite its linenoiseness < 1417072362 207111 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's "invalid for the default string type you're supposed to use the unicode string type or something" < 1417072380 885258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode in perl is no picnic < 1417072391 665904 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_HD44780_LCD_controller#Font < 1417072414 618542 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also retarded: the uppercase version of i in Java is I < 1417072415 694315 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning! < 1417072421 184831 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, are you at all related to orenronen < 1417072424 559606 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCEPT if your computer is in turkish < 1417072445 981108 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's İ < 1417072454 201297 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have a serious question. In Funciton, how do you define a function that takes two lambdas and an integer as its input, and returns one of those two lambdas depending on whether that number is nonzero? < 1417072456 269701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you lay off the "retarded" < 1417072460 476978 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise your program crashes in turkey < 1417072480 20628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always use "C" locale and avoid such problems, but I wrote program in C anyways. < 1417072493 40053 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hitachi thing looks like a variant on jis 208 < 1417072503 768924 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather super set of < 1417072504 817927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My shell scripts on UNIX systems I access I always set the locale to C explicitly in order to avoid problems < 1417072505 116877 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kana thing was also pretty funny because my program was super buggy and just dumped memory at the thing, so all this half-japanese gibberish scrolls by as i pull out my hair < 1417072516 16837 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've lost many hours to figuring out why some tool suddenly stopped working < 1417072532 925712 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insulting things is fine, just use a different insult if you would < 1417072543 844231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say whatever you want, I'm just asking you not to use that word < 1417072552 966821 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am entirely unrelated to orenronen < 1417072556 919400 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :figured < 1417072561 293819 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far as I know < 1417072566 991775 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know these japanese name thingies < 1417072569 543238 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turning out because word decided to turn "..." into "…" < 1417072572 566339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: What tool is that? < 1417072574 349838 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-113-21-204.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417072609 247302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean Microsoft Word? You can turn off autocorrection in Microsoft Word. < 1417072621 84828 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : an internal tool that turned an excel sheet of like all the sfx in a game (often with 1000+ sounds) into xml for the engine < 1417072630 794466 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could introduce yourself as mister dogfucker and i'd be like nice to meet you < 1417072637 710060 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : I know but the sound designer that made that excel sheet didn't < 1417072675 426950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Funciton14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41197&oldid=38214 5* 03B jonas 5* (+376) 10/* Conditional returning lambda */ new section < 1417072680 503051 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he typed some french into the comment section somewhere and the parser choked anyways < 1417072700 272234 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or also some unicode version of "-" that's not the real dash < 1417072721 160618 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not Japanese -- I learned it from a dear friend in primary school. My last name is Watson < 1417072734 510522 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured < 1417072738 363068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some problems caused by Unicode and stuff, although it shouldn't care about the character encoding used in comments; that doesn't make sense. < 1417072746 372439 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you aren't japanese, anyway, not the other stuff < 1417072750 464019 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My japanese is terrible but i can survive in japan < 1417072761 104107 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : the string just gets copied into a dictionary < 1417072776 318122 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is enough to crash the script < 1417072811 235842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is designed badly then < 1417072811 802420 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because python2 strings crash instead of doing something sensible < 1417072876 161487 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't the language just treat all upper-byte characters as if they were legal identifier letters? < 1417072879 826896 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also filling docs with "accents in filenames don't work" and adding checks in scripts etc < 1417072902 785904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the programs I have written I generally accept any characters in comments, but outside of comments usually only ASCII characters are allowed (although there are a few exceptions in some cases). < 1417072905 181483 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't it just treat C1 control characters correctly, imo, < 1417072927 610149 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren : probably got fixed in python3. which does you no good because nobody uses it because it's not compatible with python2 < 1417072932 882916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: That is another way too, yes. CWEB converts all 128-255 characters into letters so that it can be used in a C program. < 1417072986 469036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sorry, this channel is about unicode :p < 1417072998 384840 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound designers are not technical people < 1417073008 95224 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Becuause of this ascii rubbish all Japanese coders code their stuff in Engrish instead of understandable japanese < 1417073025 819700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but maybe this will help: Since the only datatype in Funciton is the arbitrary-size integer, a compliant interpreter must allocate a non-zero integer to every lambda closure the program creates. The lambda expression box returns an integer that identifies the closure, and the lambda invocation box will use the number to identify the lambda closure to invoke. This approach has many ... < 1417073027 97228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, the #TITLE command in VGMCK accepts UTF-8 encoding < 1417073031 815587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... advantages; in particular, you can automatically have lists of functions. The integers returned are required to be non-zero as a convenience so that the user code can still use the number 0 to mean null or false in cases where a lambda is optional. < 1417073046 601218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: I have seen program with the comments in Japanese though; it isn't much problem. < 1417073067 818952 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't understand that calling a sfx explosion_deuxième_prise.wav is going to break some way or another < 1417073070 61647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the compiler doesn't accept arbitrary comments then it isn't very good. < 1417073084 96296 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :several parts of programs aren't in comments < 1417073128 147531 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you need a second guy to go through their stuff to make it ok for computers because computers are stupid < 1417073140 579292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, that might work < 1417073146 642044 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no wait < 1417073160 944596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that might cause some difficulties of how garbage collection works < 1417073181 792588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to define how exactly you're allowed to store functions to keep them referenced < 1417073193 626417 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cap sensitive file systems will also break in not-so-cool way < 1417073197 242167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: okay, but it doesn't, so by the axiom that GC never breaks a program, it will work < 1417073197 969358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's possible, but the language spec would need some extension for it < 1417073206 725415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it pretty much excludes garbage collection < 1417073211 61998 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :name an asset Funky_stuff.wav < 1417073223 355689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do conditionals with lambdas as much as with integers < 1417073226 525039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe… but this seems a more practical language than that < 1417073228 401619 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play funky_stuff.wav in your code < 1417073229 665190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they are integers :p < 1417073232 671876 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use a conservative collector, btw i am not paying attention < 1417073236 905415 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it works < 1417073240 706522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: practical? it stores strings in BigInts < 1417073244 402598 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game ships < 1417073269 282946 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise the sfx doesn't play on iphone or whatever because the file system is case sensitive < 1417073270 309413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah... and the example implementations of the functions aren't too efficient either < 1417073272 293846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even with reasonable alignment (21 bits) < 1417073286 471909 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody caught it because it plays on windows < 1417073295 596635 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417073300 239785 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In otherwords in order to be compatible with everything, you have to put everything as binary inside the exe. < 1417073303 961227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I was thinking is that it would just extend the nand operation to return something sensible for lambdas, so that you can still use it for conditionals < 1417073311 631651 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren : yes < 1417073332 764881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but lambda expressions evaluate to integers < 1417073332 908107 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren : one favorite strategy is "One huge data file" < 1417073333 505585 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 0 NAND somelambda is still -1, and -1 NAND somelambda is somelambda, and stuff < 1417073338 239663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that wouldn't work < 1417073341 552652 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually a zip with compression turned off) < 1417073350 512268 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zip parses the same on every platform < 1417073359 37487 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise it works < 1417073361 420525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put everything into a SQLite database for example too < 1417073375 837813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many ways to put multiple data into one file < 1417073406 762151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh wait < 1417073418 507552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're right, the description says " < 1417073420 811639 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : like 10 meg data files that are going to be updated over svn and baked through data generation/compression scripts? < 1417073423 994677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the only datatype in Funciton is the arbitrary-size integer, a compliant interpreter must allocate a non-zero integer to every lambda closure the program creates. < 1417073429 695722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lambda expression box returns an integer that identifies the closure, and the lambda invocation box will use the number to identify the lambda closure to invoke." < 1417073441 55338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they practically can't be garbage collected < 1417073441 644471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I quoted that to you earlier :) < 1417073442 686278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1417073457 853734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not a great design decision, IMO < 1417073457 996965 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't know that was a quote < 1417073458 594736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1417073465 245476 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : also there are 1000 of these files < 1417073466 287997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well this answers the question] < 1417073468 449246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah, I should probably have added quotes < 1417073476 927241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that, bad dhabit < 1417073479 179174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*habit < 1417073481 799000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since lists of integers are essentially a form of godel encoding < 1417073496 673218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Funciton14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41198&oldid=41197 5* 03B jonas 5* (+173) 10/* Conditional returning lambda */ < 1417073506 334750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's just no way to know how an integer referring to a lambda may be hidden < 1417073509 566060 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : also the suits/marketing guys want to have DLC and then you need multiple data paths for god damn everything < 1417073584 40034 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it's an application that users make files with, so, you're at the mercy of the users' filename choices < 1417073586 823281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Well, depending what file you can certainly still use SQLite; it is actually pretty powerful. There is also OHRRPGCE "lumped" foramts, which is like a simple file archive basically. < 1417073645 505892 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren : yes < 1417073646 518901 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example saved games or user-made maps < 1417073657 518086 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have the problem < 1417073658 207218 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1417073661 410201 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :megazeux < 1417073667 333004 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses free standing files < 1417073673 754055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: never mind hiding it, you could also just iterate through all integers and try calling them as lambdas later on < 1417073683 995395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know how MegaZeux works < 1417073688 826998 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a game is a folder of data files songs etc < 1417073697 358003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1417073698 14788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe it dies if you hit an invalid one but that doesn't matter < 1417073698 412889 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be a DOS program < 1417073715 437568 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that to even work on Posix it has to simulate caps insensitivity < 1417073715 580469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that too I used the DOS version and actually know of some of the significant differences < 1417073736 506274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which actually broke some of my older MegaZeux games) < 1417074001 870204 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, < 1417074015 923105 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back from looking up megazeux < 1417074030 729389 :Botcyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1417074047 318095 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417074134 349524 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or does every document file format eventually become turing complete? < 1417074163 15422 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1417074169 846771 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with VBA and javascript for example < 1417074181 936417 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a min, javascript is not a document file format < 1417074191 95449 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you meant HTML? < 1417074193 810893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: I don't know. I suppose it depend. I know TeX can do a lot of program. < 1417074200 911815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: no, javascript in (html and in pdf) < 1417074202 82643 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript was added to html becuase html was not sufficient < 1417074207 215387 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: :o < 1417074230 832524 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VBA was added to docs and xls becuase they needed programmability < 1417074233 332716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: I think HTML is pretty sufficient really < 1417074263 626064 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sufficient for users' wants < 1417074313 546422 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML as a document format is sufficient already, HTML as an application platform... would be never sufficient. < 1417074320 300754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: you're getting it backwards. HTML is sufficient for what the users want, it's not sufficient for what the people who want to make their websites unusable want < 1417074340 457522 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we are living in the age that somehow mixes both < 1417074365 561652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe it's sufficient for what the users need, but not sufficient for what the users want?) < 1417074368 441350 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript is not industrial grade enough to build a serious game on < 1417074369 509493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML+CSS+JavaScript works as a VM in many cases, although it is a terrible design for such a thing! < 1417074513 593258 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why jquery was invented. < 1417074521 772305 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then angular js < 1417074545 705947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is still a terrible design; JavaScript isn't a bad programming language, it is that the VM design is terrible. < 1417074590 291700 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the ui is terrible. I want by drag and drop forms and buttons back, that I had for VB apps in 1999. < 1417074638 333451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem isn't with javascript, it's how many websites that wouldn't need it have an interface that require you to run a beefy box and wide bandwidth to access something that they could just publish on a simple text interface through a 32 kilobit/second modem < 1417074663 615073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including some online banking stuff < 1417074683 466788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they manage to modify websites that used to work fine to do this too < 1417074684 924609 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noone knows how to use telnet anymore. < 1417074688 650233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including online banking < 1417074698 987170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think SSH would be better for this bank interface anyways < 1417074708 334973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: it needn't be telnet, it can be just plain small htmls with no fancy javascript thingies where there's no point adding them < 1417074722 368890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Telnet isn't secure enough though. Actually, HTTPS also isn't quite as secure enough.) < 1417074733 181215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, I think just plain nineties style html with ZERO javascript and zero images would work for this banking interface < 1417074787 319693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they managed to make an interface where I can't just type a date to an input box, I have to use their fancy unusable javascripd date chooser < 1417074793 286014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would, but I think SSH is working OK < 1417074844 426154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not for banking, but for other stuff, a html interface is usually better than an ssh interface, because it's easier to automate, especially if they put in helpful class and id attributes everywhere < 1417074867 581025 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that there isn't a standard in HTML<5 < 1417074868 769895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It deepnds much on the design. < 1417074930 650902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: there is, but who cares, it can be just a plain text input box (which is what the html5 date control falls back to, and no matter the fancy control, I want to just type in a fucking date as YYYY-mm-dd without having to use the mouse and trying to navigate through calendar pages) < 1417074959 19899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just have a text input box < 1417075038 630865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the online banking interface has the advantage that it's completely replaced only like once every five years, unlike some crazy websites < 1417075130 163770 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if that's a virtue. My father's website has worked the same since 1994, only the backend has been updated. < 1417075145 370580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a virtue only in comparison < 1417075175 448451 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is exactly as you describe, no JS, all pure html forms < 1417075258 242278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't insist on having no javascript, only that it works without the javascript too. < 1417075269 769090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the javascript shouldn't actively make it more difficult to use the page. < 1417075365 225116 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's too much to ask though < 1417075456 20828 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that any technology not create work as well as saving work, is too much to ask possibly < 1417075499 615909 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to get philosophical at 3am. < 1417075500 327020 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417075575 294697 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1417075622 6102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 8 am. < 1417075692 280009 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417075699 747907 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, London? < 1417075738 393763 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly Portugal < 1417075820 945132 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or burkina faso < 1417075971 912220 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :related : http://xkcd.com/1335/ < 1417076014 125860 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to look up a country in africa at gmt. my first guess was niger, but it's just a little too far east < 1417076095 722474 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. i bet elliott lives in Drowning Maud Land. < 1417076177 122009 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SANAE IV. yes. < 1417076286 562728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Dronning < 1417076295 211267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's norwegian for Queen hth < 1417076317 493874 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanae - I immediately thought of 東方, and there is a user on this irc with the name drdanmaku < 1417076327 874245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning queens < 1417076370 623526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think she drowned, she had something chronically bad let me check < 1417076378 378454 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounced that in my head as drawning, not drowning < 1417076420 142998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good, if you want to be slightly closer to correct pronunciation < 1417076491 368697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it seems to have been a sudden illness < 1417076502 338615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maud_of_Wales#Maud.27s_death < 1417076579 581124 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youngest daughter of the king of england. european royalty have weird family trees < 1417076609 697859 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then so do I, blah... < 1417076638 873095 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/EgyptianPtolemies2.jpg < 1417076653 173527 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it could be worse" < 1417076719 883426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah our king's mother was swedish royalty, his (paternal) grandmother (maud) was english royalty and his grandfather was danish royalty < 1417076720 548046 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah a few kissing cousins doesn't compare < 1417076748 205459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however both he and his son have married "ordinary" people < 1417076763 434991 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the riff rafff < 1417077222 260493 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417077368 461738 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417077474 802135 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: rather than most languages where we struggle or use libraries for dates and times, a language in which the only type is datetime. < 1417077548 428193 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and containing many constructs useful for such type. < 1417077568 646311 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417077598 776196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds promising < 1417077617 391255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be the first computer essentially based on computus < 1417077776 59327 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :characters -, T and : are reserved for ISO-8601 literals, which require no quoting. So you would just write x=2014-06-25T06:36:09 < 1417077821 792516 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also + for time zone < 1417077847 402925 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact maybe use ADD DIVIDE COBOL style < 1417077858 188236 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SUBTRACT. < 1417077861 329237 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1417077908 960040 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADD 3 DAYS TO x. < 1417078008 366425 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROUND x TO A WEEK < 1417078013 103968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about, advance until Sunday, advance until full moon, advance until Easter, advance backwards such that Sun's ecliptic longitude matches that which Mars has during the current date... < 1417078037 733727 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROUND x TO NEXT SUNDAY < 1417078080 621288 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ADVANCE is a clearer keyword tho < 1417078095 994879 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will be the SQL of dates. < 1417078115 311662 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that SQL is already the SQL of dates. < 1417078131 468709 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1417078151 198937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to program SQL too. It has no commands like that though < 1417078265 833451 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like that, but most web programs store and handle dates in SQL that I've seen... that might just be me though < 1417078291 192536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnite < 1417078311 773846 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think php has better native dates than perl -- that might be it. < 1417078437 877502 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADD 1 MONTH TO x -- this is a really complex operation for many reasons < 1417078465 167319 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADD 1 QUARTER to x < 1417078523 857059 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADVANCE x TO NEXT HOLIDAY < 1417078546 3261 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires sophisticated locale < 1417078654 586252 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET y BE ALL WEEKDAYS FROM x TO z. < 1417078672 216999 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUSINESS DAY is a thing too < 1417078724 866186 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have time. SET x TO 8:00 THAT DAY < 1417078787 171610 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'mma try and build a prototype of this when I have time. < 1417078876 749305 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have TIME < 1417079008 668965 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SET x TO LAST OF exam_days. ADD 1 DAY TO x. PRINT x. < 1417079048 897913 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRINT x AS DATE FORMAT WORDS < 1417079115 643113 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>Wednesday, December 17, 2014 < 1417079188 638101 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417079344 709558 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really every part of a datetime needs to be nullable. < 1417080442 220266 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417080624 294707 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it alright if I use a talk/discussion page, specifically MNNBFSL's, to write down my non concrete musing on possible constants/algorithms/converting from BF? < 1417080689 154361 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: supercheat? < 1417080782 733496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why on that page? < 1417080811 663068 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :converting from BF to what? < 1417080820 493433 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MNNBFSL < 1417080846 252957 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat does that < 1417080846 397096 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean constants/algorithms in MNNBFSL < 1417080886 2471 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat? < 1417080887 71853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, I think is OK I suppose? < 1417080944 383850 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: nice job on that MNNBFSL Interpreter < 1417081004 187252 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! I'm not sure if it does error handling perfectly/well though. I might have to double check that. < 1417081031 90554 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. まだ名前のないBrainfuck Stack Language is it? < 1417081042 294476 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1417081063 991393 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unnamed Brainfuck Stack Language < 1417081097 617368 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not yet having a name" < 1417081139 192994 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I could make out from google translate, that's what the author left the name as. < 1417081170 580230 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mada namae no nai < 1417081215 715402 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooho my little japanese knowledge finally pays off < 1417081253 786886 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1417081287 207068 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my japanese knowledge mostly pays off in not needing to wait for scanlators... < 1417081382 617780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41199&oldid=41164 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+15) 10explained what language the name is in < 1417081433 618622 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: you can btw. embed " in strings with \' < 1417081439 25585 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "\'"0!! < 1417081439 501929 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | '" < 1417081441 682834 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "\'"0!!Q < 1417081441 971330 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | " < 1417081454 370019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\' is the escape sequence for " < 1417081502 258667 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Helpful, thanks. Should I add the link to the first mention of MNNBFSL (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdsOTr6SmDrxuWE7sJFrkhQ) < 1417081516 738046 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yshl/20140726 < 1417081522 352889 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1417081593 275273 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, accidental youtube link was non-incriminating. < 1417081664 383422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JVlpm0eRs < 1417081687 193626 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that name, まだ名前のないBrainfuck風スタック言語 , the 風 which on the wiki is simply "fu" should be translated as "style" or "method" < 1417081712 903276 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or transcribed properly as fū < 1417081755 278703 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm stack styled, sta fu ck < 1417081783 355908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41200&oldid=41199 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+11) 10made translation of fuu < 1417081913 998448 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuu literally is the chinese character for "wind" but it also means the general "direction of flow" of something etc... chinese characters are hard < 1417081989 548524 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sma echaracter is pronounced differently when it means the other meaning < 1417082021 385768 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know something like gofundme existed < 1417082032 745460 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm suprised that they actually can raise the money < 1417082216 494715 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the Japanese developer, this is a cat program in mnnbfsl: < 1417082218 154274 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[<+++++"[->+++++<"][]">"++>] [.,] < 1417082233 569400 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably have to have a good pre-existing online presence to have any luck. < 1417082243 310497 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it so different from the one on the wiki? < 1417082315 771854 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely blew that. < 1417082318 106478 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1417082331 671599 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: or a good story. < 1417082366 776114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I wanted to distinguish it from "cheat". < 1417082367 921448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41201&oldid=41200 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+28) 10/* Examples */ fixed wrong code < 1417082385 26538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1417082394 979951 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :supercheat > cheat > no cheat < 1417082423 424392 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417082431 970557 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other program on the japanese website is apparently a "busy loop" < 1417082450 376486 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[<+["] < 1417082496 434931 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417082538 933071 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there competitions for bf busy beavers? < 1417082543 180238 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this comment presents FizzBuzz in MNNBFSL < 1417082543 324750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: "no cheat" should (modulo bugs) find a valid solution to any solvable Dominosa instance (with the same size); "cheat" makes one untrue assumption and tweaks the search a bit to succeed on the three test puzzles and probably some vaguely defined subset of others; "supercheat" just encodes the output and doesn't actually solve the problem. < 1417082546 5329 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yshl/20140823 < 1417082578 992247 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_, https://github.com/yshl/MNNBFSL/tree/master/example it's all gathered there. < 1417082594 680919 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ok. < 1417082663 405417 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh < 1417082668 224890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we call an embed solution < 1417082676 473777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is usually suffixed with (embed) < 1417082684 5990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard the term, but int-e was using just (cheat). < 1417082727 98489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, that would've been more informative, if less whimsical. < 1417082954 823409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41202&oldid=41201 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+23) 10/* Commands */ changed 9+1 to 9=8+1 < 1417083135 906432 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the cat example, it seems it's using the loop method I've been trying to form. < 1417083153 431496 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good. < 1417083875 558267 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmjnefglkeagfadn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417085014 109224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball is it too early yet? < 1417085015 541414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't count on it. < 1417085163 582511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too early for what? < 1417085234 377604 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be awake possibly < 1417085263 37764 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be too early yet though is another question. < 1417085317 317568 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet implies something is false will become true, but being too early only ever changes from true to false ... hmmm.... < 1417085365 472661 :nooga!~nooga@c177-154.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417085410 713153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you have a clock? < 1417086339 865992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look, everyone, < 1417086378 448231 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://underhanded.xcott.com/?p=26 The 7th Underhanded C Contest is now Open < 1417086404 697372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, twelve days old news. I didn't notice till now. < 1417086447 653766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 23rd IOCCC winners announced: http://www.de.ioccc.org/2014/whowon.html < 1417086449 724594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more recent < 1417086524 948628 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yusuke Endoh is that Ruby guy, isn't he? < 1417086545 593851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1417086564 590770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, two klingon web servers? < 1417086565 861790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1417086649 851525 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, he's the ruby guy < 1417086661 899013 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the guy who made http://mamememo.blogspot.se/2010/09/qlobe.html and https://github.com/mame/quine-relay < 1417087112 466331 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417087729 996920 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.76.3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417089062 820240 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages? < 1417089063 2503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1417089510 243015 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-old < 1417089510 386485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1417089687 917572 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417091367 214363 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FLAMBÉD CHICKEN < 1417093136 761958 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417093144 758851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417093834 837016 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( beginning to look like Rust flat out won't work for my use case < 1417094965 401086 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Use case: Erecting a Steel Framework. ) < 1417096936 586472 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1417097612 324210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41203&oldid=41096 5* 03TomPN 5* (+3) 10/* Increase and decreasing the value of a cell */ < 1417098965 116104 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekAfk < 1417100784 3970 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone had any experience with F#? < 1417101655 34584 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417102874 721657 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1417102875 565641 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417102884 567919 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, cluid < 1417102896 31643 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, did you work on Janus? < 1417102929 919918 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused sorry < 1417103089 256026 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, BTW, I saw some dead links on C2 wiki < 1417103101 549200 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relating to RegXy < 1417103112 32661 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've just realised that i don't actually know what colour red bull is < 1417103116 912449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it red? < 1417103251 389028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is colored E150a and E101. < 1417103253 983239 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-011-013.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1417103297 680101 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to improve the RegXy page on esoteric wiki < 1417103309 934437 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also I couldn't find it because I thought itw ould be called Reg Xy < 1417103324 524207 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-011-013.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417103346 823160 :GeekAfk!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1417103408 512575 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417103622 277028 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something like a comesub, which is like a comefrom but pushes the from address to the return stack? or would that defeat the whole point of comefrom? < 1417103636 829381 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1417103726 823497 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekAfk < 1417104510 74535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417104745 778698 :nooga!~nooga@c177-154.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417104795 977000 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i see the code < 1417104796 735919 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.de.ioccc.org/2014/whowon.html < 1417104842 73496 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: you can't yet. the source code is usually released a few weeks later, probably in January < 1417104842 930277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it takes them a while to release the sources. < 1417104850 957024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'oh, too late. < 1417105189 899023 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1417105225 799456 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417105508 683347 :GeekAfk!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417106384 123173 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417106548 521502 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1417106925 835277 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikqyvczvcgknjehi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417107711 891203 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-3-32.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1417107992 670237 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417109167 192565 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417109562 483724 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikqyvczvcgknjehi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1417111286 469576 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417111617 766826 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why doesn't C have a bitwise rotate operator??? < 1417111650 189767 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: Same answer as any C question: because it hates you. < 1417111652 880766 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My assignment is to do SHA1 < 1417111741 970666 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have to define yet another bit_rotate() macro... a macro which appears in so many programs, like the max macro < 1417111851 647111 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposal for C2020 - add a variadic max operator < 1417111907 117121 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a ones-complement add operator. < 1417111909 563956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining a correct, type-generic max is kind of hard. < 1417111943 301354 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So long as it works for integers and floats... < 1417111945 468777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it might require C11 < 1417111955 429316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: the main problem is that max(x, y) usually evaluates x or y twice < 1417111968 260119 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it should be in the compiler... < 1417111973 779274 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a macro < 1417111983 560290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can avoid this with gcc statement expressions but, I think, at the cost of breaking things if y references whatever name was used to put the result of x in < 1417111988 948145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think gcc has proper gensym) < 1417111993 72427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: libecb has a bit rotation function/macro, see http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/libecb.html < 1417111996 78088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with C11, you can use _Generic and dispatch to actual functions < 1417112025 380704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: you could try to use that instead of defining your own < 1417112028 275460 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :max(x, y) should be a macro for __Max() or something, the way they did typeof and bool < 1417112034 314279 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-3-32.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417112052 215486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, building it into the compiler is kind of sad. < 1417112059 322040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like admitting your language has zero abstraction power. < 1417112078 370530 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C *does* have zero abstraction power < 1417112106 97581 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define has less power than sed < 1417112173 228535 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fuck _Generic < 1417112176 182218 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck everything about it < 1417112207 527140 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such strong feelings X-D < 1417112211 208611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: aw c'mon, people have implemented functional programming languages entirely in the preprocessor < 1417112214 649963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not *that* bad!! < 1417112240 874321 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's a horrible hack < 1417112247 479143 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IImade a sed scipr once that added a swap operator < 1417112249 63553 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it breaks layering < 1417112264 668860 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> < 1417112269 357919 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x <> y < 1417112276 156226 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C committee persists in adopting very poor solutions to their problems < 1417112290 758758 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase it is a commitee < 1417112316 205279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for that thing gcc has that is kind of like gensym
< 1417112318 592211 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: C++'s committee is waaaaaay more sane < 1417112320 604259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I remember it having something along those lines < 1417112322 392056 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good languages are designed by one visionary or two, not 15 guys < 1417112341 938865 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess that C++ is the exception that proves the rule < 1417112347 161420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc has some magical builtins < 1417112347 713710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Built-in Function: void * __builtin_apply (void (*function)(), void *arguments, size_t size) < 1417112349 290301 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-3-32.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1417112351 159155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This built-in function invokes function with a copy of the parameters described by arguments and size. < 1417112358 860482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren_: haskell is designed by committee < 1417112377 833700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Great Man theory has been obsolete for a while :p < 1417112444 188929 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish we'd go back to "visionary" meaning "hallucinating" < 1417112452 160647 :Oren_!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PART :#esoteric < 1417112473 268639 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye, Oren_ < 1417112532 526450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a ragequit, or... < 1417112621 274310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is maybe relevant that haskell was designed by committee /after/ said committee had separately made a bunch of languages similar to Haskell that they wanted to unify < 1417112687 143626 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417112772 469532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* 10New user account < 1417112786 267972 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was recently implementing an assembler (of sorts) for x86_64. < 1417112787 640730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SuperJedi22414]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41204 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+6) 10Created page with "Hello!" < 1417112803 644470 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64 machine code is a true nightmare. < 1417112963 162186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41205 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+655) 10Created page with "GridScript is an esoteric programming language designed by SuperJedi224. It is not yet implemented. ==Sample Programs== ===Hello World=== #Hello World. @width 4 @heigh 1 (1..." < 1417113027 213153 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the google doc calls # an "octothorpe" < 1417113031 630528 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo make this the featured language < 1417113070 806072 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's an octothorpe. < 1417113088 328868 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the original(?)/best name for it. < 1417113104 89015 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine originally it was called something like "what the hell is this" < 1417113111 984795 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this looks like befunge < 1417113159 130626 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign#Other_names_in_English <-- srsly, octothorpe is for real X-D < 1417113159 788190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41206&oldid=41205 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+91) 10/* Sample Programs */ < 1417113172 279364 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's real < 1417113176 704704 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still hilarious < 1417113182 103631 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair 'nuff. < 1417113207 883684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:GridScript14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41207 5* 0371.222.118.42 5* (+162) 10the pearl that lies in the sea hard by the loud-breathing serpent < 1417113229 281352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice edit summary < 1417113255 161848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna just put completely random quotes in my edit summaries from now on < 1417113260 900634 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i roll < 1417113282 767895 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my other edit summary was "hot singles in fungot's area" but that was nearly relevant, i'll have to be more careful < 1417113284 219789 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: but t-rex, you can't play the game optimally! and assuming that in a man... or a woman, dromiceiomimus < 1417113284 684492 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417113330 192186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41208&oldid=41206 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10 < 1417113359 774353 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417113391 448743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41209&oldid=41208 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+27) 10 < 1417113416 378609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41210&oldid=41120 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+17) 10/* G */ < 1417113477 828961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite like the edit summary no https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=X%2B%2B&diff=prev&oldid=40155 < 1417113480 924188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was very tired for that < 1417113483 1931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1417113522 128384 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1417113580 4864 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:494b:c763:c351:7b5b JOIN :#esoteric < 1417113606 345368 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:494b:c763:c351:7b5b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417113695 918538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41211&oldid=41209 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-1) 10/* Truth Machine */ < 1417113703 637079 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417113745 619271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: qwantz eh? < 1417113745 762921 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: all that means is that if a building? tornadoes? ghost ships! ships sent sailing and found drifting weeks or months or so, with some stranger's fingers in my mouth was full of cans of frozen concentrated juice at the grocery store, i'd miss tasting the inside, there's real organs! < 1417113777 573334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1417113784 128709 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeh, if that's what you're into, fungot... < 1417113784 273719 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a bush. so that raises a good point, t-rex? that would be good to have you for dinner, t-rex < 1417113828 666833 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has weird taste < 1417113828 810216 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but that makes things worse than ever! everybody is going to be a surprise < 1417113933 908575 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:2c29:8190:5046:c5e4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417114201 693813 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for native support for imaginary numbers ... < 1417114518 517954 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:2c29:8190:5046:c5e4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417114760 882414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41212&oldid=41211 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+659) 10/* Sample Programs */ < 1417114864 530031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for good, logical argumentation at the Finnish Parliament regarding this citizen petition about allowing same-sex marriage: (paraphrasing) "It's not about equality. We don't have jurisdiction to change the laws of nature." < 1417114985 80347 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parliament learns about bird reproduction, institutes new "it's not cheating if they're more than 50 meters away" rule < 1417115075 63074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's obvious that the change would be detrimental to children's rights." < 1417115091 107589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the opponents are playing the "but think of the children" card. < 1417115092 202518 :Oren!8a33d788@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.215.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417115168 993113 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man for all the good finnish things.. < 1417115209 613687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Adoption rights are one of the major things differentiating Finland's current "civil partnership" from marriage, that's why.) < 1417115420 617023 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The man I ordered a pizza from which never arrived this evening is apparently in the hospital with a neck injury sustained after someone struck him head on while he was delivering said pizza ... < 1417115440 489632 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1417115451 630183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the pizza was worth it < 1417115507 836548 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :His brother just arrived with our pizzas and a free bottle of coke. < 1417115574 828845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a free bottle of coke for getting your deliverer in hospital < 1417115586 389841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tastes like malice < 1417115588 416291 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It's pretty surreal. < 1417115606 346825 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope he's OK. He's a really nice guy, and he makes the best kebab in town. < 1417115634 664582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible strategy: pay people to hunt down and injure those delivering your pizza so you always get free stuff < 1417115637 978999 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wife had to take the call, and she didn't have the heart to ask for a refund. < 1417115649 594227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neck injuries sound unpleasant < 1417115770 208840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isometri.cc/strips/this_is_neck_crick/ yes < 1417116163 657034 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417116481 668092 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417116876 220709 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikqyvczvcgknjehi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417117667 325283 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http://underhanded.xcott.com/ < 1417119776 324302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I noticed both, but thanks for the reminder < 1417119862 332326 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-3-32.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417119953 70138 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417120263 727135 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417120278 870326 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417120290 682910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1417120292 718602 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1417120356 413205 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417121212 423012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41214&oldid=41213 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+468) 10 < 1417121428 381933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41215&oldid=41214 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+38) 10/* Fibonacci Sequence */ < 1417121718 985657 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:dd37:c493:fd7f:b9e4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417122114 842516 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:dd37:c493:fd7f:b9e4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417122140 52677 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417122764 812995 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1417123351 427348 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417124071 731697 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1417124071 895582 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1417124634 431603 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1417125220 838531 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417125295 172492 :Oren!8a33d788@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.215.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417125350 438601 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417125413 396416 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417125416 143166 :Oren!80646d43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417125737 239751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417125751 881467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417125755 988333 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417125771 875395 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417125829 961296 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:a47a:639a:c7e4:31a JOIN :#esoteric < 1417126569 8982 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417127164 3769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how long catching a SIGSEGV usually takes < 1417127180 449092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the invalid access to getting your SIGSEGV handler called) < 1417127182 666413 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417127182 906455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on linux, say < 1417127232 788280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417127254 618967 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1417127638 971605 :Oren!80646d43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends greatly on OS and I think that is the kind of thing that would depend on processor model < 1417127652 334731 :Oren!80646d43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some processors can't even detect it... < 1417127732 464921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, yes, x86-64 linux < 1417127746 36984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"modern x86 unix", I'm only looking for a rough estimate really < 1417127793 968274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of suspect that using this to detect running out of a bump-allocator memory pool is a lot worse than just adding a branch to allocation unless running out is extremely rare, but I'm curious < 1417127832 165999 :Oren!80646d43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then it depends on what the linux kernel does on interrupt vector number 13 < 1417127882 366791 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me, i use synthesis os, so i get forty thousand interrupts per second and it works, < 1417128572 136510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417128718 672790 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :dts|feasting < 1417128797 658742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417128823 110275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417129144 966236 :Oren!80646d43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1417129460 503169 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417130128 572834 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417130166 534929 :S1!~S1@p4FF93AE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417130243 703658 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417130293 777265 :S1!~S1@p4FF93AE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1417130448 196797 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417130466 111994 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1417131150 191431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417131161 714153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417131242 208780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman which is usually suffixed with (embed) <-- if you want people to follow conventions you should actually state them on the website hth < 1417131242 352041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417131257 707291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have the vaguest feeling I actually tested the "trap sigsegv and fake 0" Befunge stack against a regular "test on every pop" stack, and... well, I think the signal handling was "pretty fast" in an absolute sense, but still of course orders of magnitude slower than a single test. (On the other hand, many Befunge programs never pop from an empty stack at all.) < 1417131295 636942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure people have benchmarked Linux signal delivery overhead, though, which I'd guesstimate is the larger component, compared to the hardware side. < 1417131302 260320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm wondering about it for, e.g., knowing when you're out of copying GC heap. < 1417131317 864692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think collections in a generational collector are probably too frequent for it to pay off. < 1417131445 145995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many befunge programs test the depth of stack? < 1417131487 669036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be easier to have a sizeable buffer of zeros preallocated < 1417131487 815703 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine even if programs do pop an empty stack, they probably do it infrequently < 1417131497 698971 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417131507 750459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have the depth test do a subtraction < 1417131590 905524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the sigsegv thing could bump that back up, causing a low average cost < 1417131722 895960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that a* word i can never remember again < 1417131728 988167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amortized. < 1417131741 104644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if Mycology was the only real program that actually checked stack depth. < 1417131766 670566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append oerjan He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1417131768 514206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'oerjan': Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1417131798 824679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i just have to remember that i put it there should be easy < 1417131800 42284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417131804 179324 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1417131808 187262 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1417131809 900618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1417131825 825113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuona serab < 1417131838 247381 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1417131841 146411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'taneb': Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1417131863 812886 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 ** (1/3) < 1417131865 125987 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.7099759466766968 < 1417131873 841439 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1417131947 788258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log 2 < 1417131949 148610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.6931471805599453 < 1417131975 252689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1417132023 710119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i thought i'd memorized that as 0.701something < 1417132030 167557 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt 2 < 1417132031 418011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4142135623730951 < 1417132036 112167 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/sqrt 2 < 1417132037 420403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7071067811865475 < 1417132065 777132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.01**100 < 1417132067 127617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7048138294215285 < 1417132077 148225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1417132081 114294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is sooomething that begins like that < 1417132090 99346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's approximately e of course < 1417132096 710171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (- 1) < 1417132097 944187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.36787944117144233 < 1417132125 959183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well my logarithms in the head are rarely more accurate than 0.7 anyway < 1417132140 934116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log 10 < 1417132142 217143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.302585092994046 < 1417132164 763379 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother passed his driving test today :) < 1417132188 148384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.1**10 < 1417132189 430328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.5937424601000023 < 1417132196 534559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait this is stupid < 1417132344 946119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: congrats, ben < 1417132354 928274 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1417132363 524350 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is 60% of my nick < 1417132369 741976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i remembered < 1417132435 36065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 10 < 1417132436 381723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.3219280948873626 < 1417132441 478171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 10 2 < 1417132442 714435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.30102999566398114 < 1417132451 150954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe it's that < 1417132470 928492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.30103 should be easy to remember < 1417132528 889854 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as easy as 2.718281828 < 1417132535 62109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that might have a large continued fraction coefficient < 1417132541 866613 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and so on" < 1417132560 680338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much faster is call compared to push + jmp? surprisingly google doesn't have an answer for this < 1417132568 448970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :interested in the corresponding answer for ret, also < 1417132579 481944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/logBase 10 2 < 1417132580 863141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.321928094887363 < 1417132593 653271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/logBase 10 2-3) < 1417132594 892387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.1062837195053827 < 1417132606 962497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/(1/logBase 10 2-3)-3) < 1417132608 237397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.408778735386232 < 1417132619 239695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/(1/(1/logBase 10 2-3)-3)-9) < 1417132620 524009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.4463112031871153 < 1417132633 776424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/(1/(1/(1/logBase 10 2-3)-3)-9)-2) < 1417132635 62362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.2405890617555295 < 1417132658 4674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't really show up as that. well 9 is fairly large. < 1417132668 136424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(pi-3) < 1417132669 390730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.062513305931052 < 1417132674 43515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/(pi-3)-7) < 1417132675 303816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 15.996594406684103 < 1417132685 671252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1/(1/(pi-3)-7)-15) < 1417132686 899975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0034172310150002 < 1417132721 270800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1%(1/16+7)+3 < 1417132721 918606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 < 1417132722 338812 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 1 < 1417132725 944468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1%(1/16+7)+3 < 1417132727 266361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1417132727 409937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M57241604867522287715068.show_M57241604867522287715... < 1417132727 410055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1417132727 410128 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1417132727 410198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance [safe] GHC.Show.Show < 1417132731 286108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1417132737 652351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/(1%16+7)+3 < 1417132738 915718 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 355 % 113 < 1417132744 112382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (1 %@| ]) 10^.2 < 1417132744 609079 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 3.32193 < 1417132756 35343 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ <. (1 %@| ])^:(<20) 10^.2 < 1417132756 530385 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 0 3 3 9 2 2 4 6 2 1 1 3 1 18 1 6 1 7 1 1 < 1417132774 480860 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :NB. hth