< 1415836898 860996 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1415837008 157355 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415837276 136619 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415837537 563572 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote swat < 1415837538 186013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies \ 1085) boily: so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money, maybe start a home based business of a profiler to spot outright dead code. macro-generated code often has big swaths of it. i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just fo < 1415837554 941734 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mapole | wc -l < 1415837555 562620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1415837560 56009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :` ` quote mapole | wc -l < 1415837560 681779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1415837561 823996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote mapole | wc -l < 1415837562 633422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1415837563 100947 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, is that quote _that_ old < 1415837584 581811 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no mapole quotes?! < 1415837592 984030 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote mapole | wc -l < 1415837593 759918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1415837599 199811 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to hit something.
< 1415837604 275336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1415837605 35781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1" < 1415837610 645709 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands int-e the mapoler
< 1415837614 901780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: `` and `run are pretty much the same < 1415837626 330375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that `run seems to be built into HackEgo) < 1415837658 761340 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind-of want to add "There are no mapole quotes?!" to the qdb < 1415837679 623304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to get it past the mods. < 1415837740 126091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1415837740 918422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. < 1415838009 279028 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415838464 173864 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415839089 367894 :Nonduira!~AaronB@rrcs-74-62-198-71.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415839219 664393 :Nonduira!~AaronB@rrcs-74-62-198-71.west.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415839295 435846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415840565 190121 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1 < 1415840565 837689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" < 1415840575 167394 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2 < 1415840575 896762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. < 1415840602 841340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those quotes are terrible < 1415840947 304645 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415841041 214602 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Person who keeps endorsing me for stuff on LinkedIn just endorsed me for PHP < 1415841052 348836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm certain they're just clicking endorse all the time < 1415841056 914929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever < 1415841064 538881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin endorsed me for PHP as a joke. < 1415841067 78410 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@resnet-v491-wless-gw.net.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415841074 885586 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1415841116 405090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: if i get a php job i'll blame you < 1415841140 557941 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah okay I'll keep that in mind :) < 1415842483 273580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly for linking to an arxiv pdf instead of the abstract page -----###
< 1415842504 72181 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@resnet-v491-wless-gw.net.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415842511 840578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which would have been http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2832 hth) < 1415842542 104511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow is that all it takes < 1415842574 7653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for FireFly, yes < 1415842591 983429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has special swatter attraction powers < 1415842607 956737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, you _should_ always link to the abstract hth) < 1415842712 100561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/01/17/207546.1-lg.jpg hth < 1415842992 148497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1415843004 604304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because it took me far too long to get it < 1415843036 737280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415843389 254561 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1415843934 652466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up more kind of pokemon cards, including SUPER IMPOSTER PROFESSOR OAK and RANDOM ENERGY and so on. < 1415843998 820798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does SUPER IMPOSTER PROFESSOR OAK do? < 1415844010 431394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is it the same as IMPOSTER SUPER PROFESSOR OAK? < 1415844019 149513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Make up that kind of card too.) < 1415844022 28766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opponent can draw ten cards, I suppose, instead of just seven. < 1415844056 190169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sort of like how SUPER POTION can remove two damage and SUPER ENERGY REMOVAL can remove two opponent's energy cards.) < 1415844074 211802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how Pokémon cards work. < 1415844114 141373 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415844181 650039 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415844214 40827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually SUPER POTION remove four damage; the normal POTION can take out just one damage) < 1415844277 336792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415844288 532145 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably a good idea, but I saw a link to the pdf elsewhere < 1415844357 670294 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: potion heals 20hp < 1415844369 635173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, two damage counters < 1415844609 26623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he didn't link to the abstract, but < 1415844668 544858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fill in here" < 1415844670 26219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1415844670 209967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes, two damage counters. I know that; I just made a second mistake somehow, I don't know why < 1415844689 471225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um PUN UNINTENDED < 1415844949 581641 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1415844963 63242 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415844997 726150 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415845031 384884 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1415845172 239820 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415845828 804797 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1415845973 271679 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1415845982 443873 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415846007 65080 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415846030 886931 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415846203 115913 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415846203 707061 :viznut!viznut@lowfidelity.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415846203 707190 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415847473 973467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1415847508 395095 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1415848172 285430 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415848326 303029 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415848377 925601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you ever play Waving Hands < 1415848394 417678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have read about it < 1415848474 502577 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to find a way to play online (not email) < 1415848538 653119 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aitajwciuypttcwo JOIN :#esoteric < 1415848668 170800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415848972 14205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1415848976 419434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did my message get through? < 1415848985 980030 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1415849082 419181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does F# have the weird method/function distinction Scala has where methods can do all sorts of things except be first class? < 1415849744 549266 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs Visual Studio Community
< 1415849878 889941 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1415850049 116219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map(map length.group)$replicateM 4[True,False] -- so wrong < 1415850050 563785 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[4],[3,1],[2,1,1],[2,2],[1,1,2],[1,1,1,1],[1,2,1],[1,3],[1,3],[1,2,1],[1,1,... < 1415850300 97143 :gammaplexer!ad361061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.54.16.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415850314 332384 :gammaplexer!ad361061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.54.16.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love gammaplex! < 1415850326 909737 :gammaplexer!ad361061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.54.16.97 QUIT :Client Quit < 1415850349 97880 :gammaplexer!ad361061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.54.16.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415850371 114297 :gammaplexer!ad361061@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.54.16.97 QUIT :Client Quit < 1415850409 6481 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1415850448 487256 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is that scala thing due to the way the bitcode works? < 1415850469 571034 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no idea < 1415851380 832998 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851687 325834 :MoALTz_!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851752 319061 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851769 727356 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851793 137705 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851923 795987 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1415851926 657931 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1415851951 339934 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851956 978621 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851957 162355 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1415851957 162529 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851958 137769 :InvalidC1!invalidco@makkara.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415851960 466144 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851962 324300 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851963 708299 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851967 87503 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851968 468313 :scounder!~scounder@phroa.lost.the.game.rikairchy.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851973 340526 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851976 328692 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851976 328751 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851976 328807 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851978 732472 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851978 916720 :InvalidCo!invalidco@makkara.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415851985 176447 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415851986 679170 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1415852015 800276 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley NICK :erdic < 1415852030 297032 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1415852048 817783 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1415852059 354928 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415852834 464545 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415853814 390054 :scounder!~scounder@phroa.lost.the.game.rikairchy.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415854344 556577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the AI in Pokemon Card GB2 use FULL HEAL ENERGY so badly? Just now, while their active pokemon card was confused, they instead attached it to a bench pokemon card which requires only electric energy for its attacks. < 1415854352 830219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That card could not evolve, either.) < 1415854622 488605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40913&oldid=40907 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+157) 10 < 1415854642 881887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40914&oldid=40913 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+1) 10 < 1415855471 786080 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415855549 101456 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: AI was pretty bad in the first one too, and actively cheated. Never played GB2 though, didn't read Japanese. < 1415855595 477657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although in the new one it is even worse; they run out of cards too often. < 1415855636 684473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First one also had no FULL HEAL ENERGY card.) < 1415855780 609547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40915&oldid=40914 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+0) 10 < 1415855795 576054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe even the AI for cheating is bad. < 1415856189 883307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure. < 1415856196 717561 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415856307 758582 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1415856324 145649 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1415858719 416184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why don't you write your own AI for it. i bet you could make one that doesn't suck < 1415859017 850767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I am not so good at writing AI < 1415859413 101752 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1415859543 297668 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :dTSCode < 1415860813 6875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h: What what? < 1415860874 123343 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:33:11 whoa, nyuszika7h has been here before? <-- yeah, I was here before, though I don't seem to remember that quote :P < 1415861722 861548 :dTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :DTSCode < 1415862080 192334 :InvalidC1!invalidco@makkara.org NICK :InvalidCo < 1415863630 119159 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1415863870 694213 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415865866 935438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415865923 560376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Portal 214]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40916 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+357) 10/* Is this proven TC ? */ new section < 1415866517 88698 :MoALTz__!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415866654 790629 :MoALTz__!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415866688 192722 :MoALTz_!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415866715 835901 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1415867834 22977 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff. < 1415867840 541187 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skill-project.org has a limit on children? < 1415868181 510304 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I supposed to add thousands of programming languages then . < 1415868453 432105 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Luser droog 5* 10New user account < 1415868744 281800 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415869395 141563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, now that dual space thing makes sense to me < 1415869868 647981 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxssofotujkkzhpt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1415870605 896343 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/11/12/wearable-power-assist-device-goes-on-sale-in-japan/ < 1415870963 213635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Inca14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40917 5* 03Luser droog 5* (+2104) 10apl-based ascii language < 1415871567 240412 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2007/1227.html < 1415871733 361155 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415873478 996149 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything i should read if i want to do lexing on languages with 2 (or more) dimensions? < 1415873744 800111 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415873836 10534 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1415873886 895854 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415874095 967451 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: to create tokens? < 1415874130 555541 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess it have to be a graph, but basically yes < 1415874138 798137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1415874147 347516 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it depends if you can do arbitrary jumps to 2D locations or not < 1415874172 835966 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can just branch upwards/downwards/left/right I use branches in graphs < 1415874260 696499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/Um7WWfsN <- like that < 1415874274 426458 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way compilation is not that inconvenient < 1415874280 927156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have arbitrary jumps to locations < 1415874297 856863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :compilation is very not so cenvenient anymore < 1415874642 774045 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i already did that < 1415874677 820309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is, i want to write about it and would like to read other stuff if available < 1415874894 808177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How do you organize a space party?" "You planet." Gah, these emails have oerjan-level puns. < 1415875580 419017 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S0 < 1415875613 1707 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415876505 507981 :MoALTz_!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415876666 891163 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415876667 111126 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415876697 619502 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-44-103.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415876723 228688 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415877118 769506 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaay for the endless recycling of the print keyword. < 1415877175 1649 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1415877199 388622 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is dealing with a name clash decision.
< 1415877215 617521 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to decide which style of 'printing' Heresy's PRINT actually stands for. < 1415877229 913984 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1415877236 946705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like print "foo" < 1415877240 940797 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it should produce foo or "foo" < 1415877246 447178 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print "foo" < 1415877247 701749 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1415877252 473368 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1415877261 11047 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot does that < 1415877268 861067 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC just has PRINT, which roughly corresponds to how display works in Racket. But Racet also has print and write, both of which are pretty important. < 1415877286 783304 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Exactly. eg. file:///C:/Program%20Files/Racket/doc/guide/read-write.html?q=input < 1415877295 287792 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, forgot, local webdocs. < 1415877297 442228 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1415877303 853161 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just give me access to your computer please ;) < 1415877331 298320 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/read-write.html < 1415877335 324038 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1415877338 310622 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1415877366 625424 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1415877378 115682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, basic also has PRINT and WRITE < 1415877382 272490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least some variants of basic < 1415877386 728192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it also has PRINT USING < 1415877395 12150 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415877405 95281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but WRITE is usally to file? < 1415877408 5173 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot PRINT USING, though WRITE is a file I/O command usually isn't it? < 1415877417 649069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basic WRITE prints strings double-quoted so it's easier to read back, < 1415877424 364192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that a different command? < 1415877425 275277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1415877435 336014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's _four_ write commands, three of which can work to both stdout adn file < 1415877439 833002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is PRINT whcih prints normally, < 1415877450 873198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one prints strings double-quoted so its' easier to read back < 1415877464 51506 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRINT USING prints with formatting, < 1415877507 402398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's one that prints fixed fields which works a bit magically: it involves preparing a buffer with another command such that some strings point _into_ that field and you must not reallocate them but only assign their contents with LSET, and then the command just writes the buffer < 1415877530 342962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure whcih of these two other commands is WRITE and what's the other one called < 1415877583 772477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :three of these can be used pritning to stdout, or to a filehandle like PRINT#3,FOO where #3 is the file descriptor number, or to the line printer like LPRINT < 1415877596 183452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course this all depends on the variant of basic < 1415877748 409548 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECMA Standard BASIC has READ as well. XD < 1415877784 856022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBasic has PRINT, PRINT USING (to screen or file), LPRINT, LPRINT USING (to printer in LPT1), WRITE (to screen or file). < 1415877845 29146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the strange PUT. < 1415877857 788454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's only to file, I think. < 1415877915 777126 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh weird, PRINT USING in ECMA is basically PRINTF, instead of like defining an output port. < 1415877929 980534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can PUT any variable, not just the (LSET/RSET) random-access buffer. < 1415877958 611163 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a two line statement ... < 1415878073 788817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And confusingly enough, READ does not (arguably) do any I/O, since it only reads values specified by DATA statements. < 1415878089 275742 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRINT USING is always like printf, but with different directives < 1415878091 616240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else would it be? < 1415878205 901436 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall ever learning that use case, and I don't think older MS BASICs had it. < 1415878236 331730 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ECMA it's a two statement pair: PRINT USING values, then IMAGE string-templat. < 1415878461 680494 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the trouble with BASIC, there never really was a standard anyone actually followed. MS was almost more standard than ANSI or ECMA, it's what most followed. < 1415878773 125611 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I believe GWBASIC has PRINT USING too < 1415879038 461057 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once read the basic standard and it was full of mind-boggling stuff i never saw implemented anywhere < 1415879144 629197 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let" was mandatory but iirc there was also another alternative for "let" that could be used for defining vectors < 1415879338 734728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative for LET? like DIM or some other keyword for declaring variables, or SET for assigning object identify, or READ? < 1415879357 760134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandatory LET is implemented in some basics of course < 1415879369 373620 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. The standards define a MAT keyword that's used for defining all kinds of stuff to do with arrays. < 1415879377 348288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1415879378 317757 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even a MAT INPUT in ECMA. < 1415879391 32017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's so many basics that it's hard to be sure about "not implemented anywhere" < 1415879413 98719 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. There are a few standards compliant implementations but they were never particularly popular I don't think. < 1415879460 269786 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be because BASIC is or was popular not because it's a good language, but because it came with some personal computers, or bundled as a macro language into some programs (think of WordBasic, Visual Basic, and CorelScript) < 1415879492 524994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, BASIC was a not too insane language back when it was created, because it was small enough and easy to learn < 1415879508 689408 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :microcomputer implementations were dominated by microsoft that defined things in its own way < 1415879516 664880 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. IT was easy to write and implement for certain kinds of computers, and was relatively easy to 'get'; it's hyper imperative code at its core, which in a weird way makes it easy to follow until programs get large. < 1415879531 436041 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if a microcomputer basic wasn't actually from microsoft it was usually modelled after ms-basic < 1415879619 975223 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basic was popular in early microcomputers not only because of microsoft but also because the pioneers had often used a time-shared mainframe basic in university/college < 1415879651 10954 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yeah; in its original form it was just for solving simple algebra problems, it was often the first language or only language new students were exposed to, because they'd use it for math classes and such. < 1415880378 87679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays they use fortran . < 1415880493 498867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1415880616 231037 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415880667 447939 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages? < 1415880667 671184 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1415880721 734581 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No massage for you, sir < 1415880963 361525 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415881832 200473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415882019 457485 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TOADY CHICKEN < 1415882178 69159 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1415882196 388826 :S0!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S1 < 1415882533 849652 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of me thinks I should just say fuck it and stick to a saner mapping direct to Lisp, PRINT = PRINT, INPUT = READ, though that does mean that Heresy would thus have an IEPD (input-eval-print-doloop).. < 1415882659 776230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Improvised explosive printing device. < 1415882784 110124 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually haven't decided on the loop conventions yet either. It's a functional dialect, so a lot of them are worthless. < 1415882878 470566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: what are you making? < 1415882922 805776 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: to practice macros and teach myself better FP/Lisp fundamentals, I'm implementing a LISP/BASIC hybrid lang called Heresy. < 1415882937 21936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1415882969 226972 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly for the novelty, but it could be an interesting tool for getting BASIC programmers into trying Lisp. < 1415883116 770846 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still on notes and tinkering stage now, but I think I'll have enough to write a draft definition of the core language soon. < 1415883151 339863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one niche usecase < 1415883155 987996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: um, how does that want to work? BASIC-like syntax with more functions, including statements turned to functions, or lisp-like syntax < 1415883159 119803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1415883170 609764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of scoping? < 1415883192 83154 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mostly LISP syntax, with BASIC keywords and extra sugar. < 1415883343 542828 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aiming to do this as a Racket #lang module, so a lot of stuff is 'for free'. < 1415883406 579062 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure BASIC programmers will either say one of these two things < 1415883416 397538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.) Too many parantheses. < 1415883435 435598 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b.) Where's Console.Out.WriteLine < 1415883442 206072 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh heh. < 1415883453 647532 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Console.WriteLine actually < 1415883466 913499 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm shooting less for the VB crowd than the FreeBASIC heads; there's actually some Lisp curiosity in that crowd. :D < 1415883488 199581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a long time since my VB.NET days < 1415883489 560118 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FB has TCO now, and a couple different Lisp implementations, one of them embeddable. < 1415883500 867145 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stayed the hell away from VB. XD < 1415883519 7881 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a beautiful language once you learn to hate and love it at the same time. < 1415883543 195899 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw it has all the features you need to program ;) < 1415883543 419215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1415883611 606919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: such as the way to shell out to a real program? < 1415883649 491854 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1415883657 423241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.NET has that. < 1415883678 23935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. so you can just write your program in (your favourite language) and then run it < 1415883697 584681 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1415883713 653781 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But calling a VB.NET program inside a VB.NET program sounds pretty useless. < 1415883744 169953 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dim fungot As Bot < 1415883744 463198 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: fair enough. if she knew she'd just rest. :p < 1415883764 394319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: see, and here my associations are, like, QBASIC < 1415883776 851960 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReDim fungot As Human < 1415883777 36071 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: shall we proceed? < 1415883781 905289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VB and FreeBASIC and all that are so... depressingly capable < 1415883782 896669 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. we shall. < 1415883821 740592 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, I grew up on MS and QBASIC. < 1415883828 328266 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does VB allow to define casts? < 1415883856 156944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORI=1TO16:FUNGOT(I)=0:NEXTI < 1415883871 665021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Container14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40918&oldid=40912 5* 03177.193.194.37 5* (-45) 10/* Execution */ < 1415883878 564320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to define what? < 1415883887 276122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it does < 1415883891 182014 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to use CType < 1415883938 870433 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Public Shared Narrowing Operator CType(...) < 1415883951 870992 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Public Shared Widening Operator CType... < 1415883977 118213 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ia ia Ballmer ftagn? < 1415884012 516174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I don't understand what that means < 1415884020 939702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It defines a cast < 1415884037 517102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "Conversion Operator" if you're more familiar with that terminology < 1415884039 32598 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: FreeBASIC is, strictly speaking, still a QB at heart, just one that was introduced to real programmers at some point who started wanting it to actually be useful agian. ;) < 1415884053 703320 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even recursive macros in FreeBASIC now apparently. < 1415884066 958408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: let me guess, it has ghastly OOP extensions :) < 1415884067 469217 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if you create a data structure you can define a cast from string to your data structure < 1415884070 399825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff like that < 1415884085 110495 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1415884091 154967 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not sure, but possibly, it does have partial C++ lib support. < 1415884103 601254 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuckprogram prog = (Brainfuckprogram)"+++."; < 1415884106 948267 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were C# < 1415884114 184342 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And user-defined Types. O_o < 1415884121 800789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think QBASIC has structs... < 1415884122 248211 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :VB has prog = CType("+++.", Brainfuckprogram) < 1415884141 301905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1415884156 723054 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think MS got structs until VB < 1415884156 946993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ok < 1415884176 820068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me dig up fizzie's qbasic manual < 1415884203 637684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: so can you also do like `dim prog as brainfuckprogram : prog = "+++."' < 1415884204 675017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1415884210 282162 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1415884215 39457 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define implicit casts < 1415884215 284232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1415884230 227721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: it does: http://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MDg3 < 1415884237 507865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does it let automatically cast as you pass an argument to a function that requires a particular type? < 1415884239 412015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: just nobody used them. or procedures, for that matter. :p < 1415884249 32604 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I never knew about them. < 1415884254 134436 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it should with implicit casts yes < 1415884269 320894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great] < 1415884278 782338 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of all the great things you can do with this < 1415884281 304106 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a 4.5 or 7 feature; most people only used the QB 1.1 that came with DOS < 1415884293 740721 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(VB uses narrowing/widening as keywords, C# uses explicit/implicit as keywords) < 1415884299 168184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MDIz you could even do things like this < 1415884317 436806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I thought fizzie's manual was some old version < 1415884334 186218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Fast program execution Use a Basic compiler (such as Microsoft < 1415884334 370213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Visual Basic for MS-DOS) to translate your < 1415884334 370359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Basic code into native machine code. < 1415884336 683744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :visual basic for ms-dos... < 1415884363 516913 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/z5z9kes2.aspx) < 1415884377 615588 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also VB uses Shared for "static" < 1415884386 303496 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmm, yeah, Guess it must be, because it lacks switches for command line compliation, and has /EDITOR. < 1415884416 531979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was basically just that nobody knew or cared about the fancier stuff it has < 1415884420 547377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone plan on porting .NET to MS-DOS? < 1415884427 55014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone remembers it as being goto global soup hell < 1415884452 383597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, "Line numbers, a concept often associated with BASIC, are supported for compatibility, but are not considered good form, having been replaced by descriptive line labels.[1]" ha ha < 1415884461 975171 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, it was always a weird hybrid thing, and the typing system in particular could be pretty hairy if you engaged with it responsibly. < 1415884476 459339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's so slow. < 1415884482 971874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like jaw-droppingly slow. < 1415884485 427918 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even use line labels after a very short time. < 1415884495 700696 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in looove with the IDE for subroutines. < 1415884506 956433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you filthy structured programmer. < 1415884581 742607 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: isn't "SHARED" for global variables and "STATIC" for static? < 1415884606 957685 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Honestly, if I refactored out some of my old code from the MS BASIC days it would look pretty similar. I tended to prefer GOSUB to GOTO. < 1415884724 990940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember which BASICs I used as a kid. I definitely used QBASIC but I don't know if I actually got much programming done with it. < 1415884731 847379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took until the ripe old age of 8 for me to start really programming < 1415884739 780645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1415884830 553999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember writing out some long program that did pretty things on the screen from a book REALLY CAREFULLY. I forget which computer that was even for though. it wasn't an atari or a c64... *maybe* it was a bbc micro? but I don't think so... oh, possibly an Amstrad? < 1415884854 222164 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lucky, I started with the CoCo3. Tandy manuals in those days were *amazing* learning books. Huge, detailed, easy to read. < 1415884878 261739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: this would have been, like, 1998 or later. :p) < 1415884884 478912 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1415884905 332319 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then later on high school finished, and I decided that I liked computers too much to do them for a living. I didn't want to not like them anymore. < 1415884921 335322 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my mind, making them 'work' would suck out all the fun. < 1415884930 707731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to not like them without work... < 1415884966 928690 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415884985 439752 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1415884990 172608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: did you revise that decision later and end up working with computers anyway? < 1415885008 544609 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's kinda what I've been fumbling about attempting to do now. < 1415885025 60823 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, come join the dark side! < 1415885029 419548 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually wound up falling into cooking for about 10 years, then uni and tabletop RPG design. < 1415885031 969340 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell yourself < 1415885232 617816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1415885232 801721 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1415885239 260145 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good style, fungot < 1415885239 496435 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: not its offtopicness. that doesn't give you alt text. such is life < 1415885246 100871 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a hopelessly infatuated aspiring Scheme programmer with some entry-level Python skills as well. < 1415885249 446560 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is life, indeed < 1415885271 257077 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, _cooking_? < 1415885303 572063 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yup. I cooked for a living for most of a decade. < 1415885310 416115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1415885314 184807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1415885352 127253 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So uh, obviously you'd be very proficient in the Chef language < 1415885368 482929 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm proficient in IRP < 1415885372 380009 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no Job offers so far. < 1415885401 355561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Container14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40919&oldid=40918 5* 03177.193.194.37 5* (+0) 10/* Execution */ < 1415885422 831358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is that like that webpage we found last time that advertized befunge certifications? < 1415885514 55113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You had to use the menus for defining procedures, or so I vaguely recall. < 1415885533 647784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pretty sure typingw orked < 1415885534 307434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is there big money in tabletop RPG design?) < 1415885535 356952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typing worked < 1415885539 295240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you got shoved into a mini-editor thing < 1415885541 165966 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, unfortunately I became a Lisp convert *after* I moved to a country with virtually zero Lisp programmers in it. < 1415885543 89537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with only that procedure < 1415885547 878847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's, like, structural editing! < 1415885562 325752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: what, finland? < 1415885563 590794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is about what IDE or something? < 1415885566 921619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess fizzie's university did stop using SICP. < 1415885567 988553 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yup. < 1415885574 236641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The QBasic one. < 1415885586 179622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: F-Secure was famously looking for Scheme programmers in their job ads. < 1415885594 266102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Ten years ago, though. < 1415885595 281022 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually, in qbasic, you can create a sub/function by just typing its head, < 1415885615 601054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then either you have to switch between subs from the dialog box, or switch that option that makes the whole source code show up together < 1415885616 615887 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are fuckall Lispers here seems like. One CL shop, a couple Clojure shops. A lot of Haskellers and Erlangers though. < 1415885632 15283 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FP is kinda popular here, just not in Lisp form necessarily. < 1415885635 255311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 lisp shops is pretty impressive :p < 1415885647 184313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder hwo many there are in the UK. < 1415885650 824663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*how < 1415885671 205504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: doesn't matter. it's not just the languages that are important, but your theoretical understanding and competences. don't be affraid to get a non-scheme job. < 1415885702 284189 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm not afraid to, just not sure yet what I want to do, and kinda Java-phobic. < 1415885788 432847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... that's understanible < 1415885815 366574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is not a bad language (it's not a good one either), but java jobs want code monkeys < 1415885845 358767 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is everywhere here. In fact, if I don't want to go to uni after language school, my sole options from the trade school are either Java-EE or some buzzword nonsense about cloud architectures and so forth. < 1415885901 738357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh... < 1415885912 391748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are you tied to your location by family or something? < 1415885957 11217 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the city, and my wife is still in trade school for glasswork. < 1415885988 758571 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1415885998 396599 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :buzzword nonsense is where them moneyz at. < 1415886034 96718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as long as you just write code I don't really care in what language < 1415886036 524711 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: True. And that one actually gives a CS qualification instead of just programming, IIUC. < 1415886096 161325 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415886223 975504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Were you in Tampere, or do I remember wrong? < 1415886228 20415 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1415886239 411256 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olen Tamperelainen. ;) < 1415886254 348983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was there yesterday. < 1415886261 457694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, no, Tuesday. < 1415886266 93897 :visy_!~visy@ec2-23-23-221-74.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnjävlar < 1415886270 891377 :visy_!~visy@ec2-23-23-221-74.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :visy < 1415886271 75315 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We moved here for the language course. < 1415886350 183719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so how many esolangers do you have in Finland? there aren't more than in the UK, are there? < 1415886381 303233 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno to be honest. THere's always a few Finns around on IRC though. They invented the place. < 1415886392 832620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tons of esolangers in finland < 1415886432 384608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quickly counted 7 in the nick list, but I could well have missed some. < 1415886444 548559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 8 if fungot counts. < 1415886444 785998 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sometimes but very rarely, i think it has something to do with energy. < 1415886447 23179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 7 in here right now < 1415886453 810736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1415886458 515711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 7.5, then. < 1415886472 721643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1415886484 972929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel started with finns I think < 1415886489 319728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess lament isn't finnish < 1415886507 127268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is because of the whole demoscene culture and everything. < 1415886519 229535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, plus just finns being IRC addicts < 1415886532 287069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the word "enthusiasts", thank you very much. < 1415886578 266075 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, still pretty active demoscene here. < 1415886686 594741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My early logs show navigator with a .gr hostname, and lament, calamari and dbc from US-looking ISPs. < 1415886713 437223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And me and mooz from .fi.) < 1415886733 268799 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB, menen kaupaan. < 1415886794 480655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sappuakivikauppas < 1415886818 934599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saippuakivikauppias, you mean. < 1415886834 585041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: "menen kauppaan".) < 1415886842 622142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But: "tulen kaupasta".) < 1415886863 868148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for one to be pp and the other just p. < 1415886881 783287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's practically all finns. < 1415886921 907146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sappikivi kippas" == "the gallstone tipped over". < 1415886955 363705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oops < 1415887012 304975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that just that consonant gradation < 1415887064 595484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly regular, except i've learned recently that it's not always that < 1415887114 7412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, some centuries ago, it probably was perfectly regular, but then _more_ sound changes kept getting heaped on. < 1415887123 303836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be regular, but the regulations aren't something one really thinks of. < 1415887165 145625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This sometimes creates difficulties in identifying the root (if the word is derived), because often seemingly basic words turn out to be derived, applying gradation in the process. For example, hake 'wood chippings gradates to hakkee-, not to *hae-, because it is already a gradated form (former *hak̆keh), derived from hakkaa- < 'hack' (whose infinitive is the weak grade haka|ta). However, ... < 1415887171 96869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... hake|a 'to get, to search' does gradate to hae-, as hake- is the original form." < 1415887174 148205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1415887208 595426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if what i vaguely hear about colloquial finnish is right, you'll soon be as complicated as estonian < 1415887418 583627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Container14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40920&oldid=40919 5* 03177.193.194.37 5* (+104) 10/* Execution */ < 1415887732 791297 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org NICK :viznut < 1415887967 495543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, tatham's loopy puzzle can actually be zoomed by resizing? < 1415887973 12241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may change EVERYTHING < 1415888015 718244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that humming noise < 1415888183 601663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not everything. it is _still_ annoying to aim properly with my touchpad. < 1415888472 946185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka it's not precise, _and_ the buttons are not properly separated from the pointing area. < 1415888635 808641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Container14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40921&oldid=40920 5* 03177.193.194.37 5* (+48) 10 < 1415888658 485841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dimensions14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40922&oldid=40903 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* See also */ bullets < 1415888682 756565 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415888710 24198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've offered to buy you a mouse before, right? < 1415888889 508486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:TomPN14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40923&oldid=40863 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+92) 10unsigned < 1415888901 989400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1415888931 236966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i cannot usefully use a mouse on my lap. < 1415888948 49083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also i have a mouse, i've just never used it.) < 1415888980 875557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF IS THAT HUMMING SOUND < 1415889148 951025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the neighbor's fridge. < 1415889193 878256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the constructor workers have stopped, which only makes me go crazy at smaller noises instead. < 1415889210 237869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ion < 1415889284 961761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzz < 1415889319 723291 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Philae actually bounced off the comet ;) < 1415889328 950267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Musical notes14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40924&oldid=40861 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* See also */ bullets < 1415889332 196739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I know. twice. < 1415889439 43006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ATZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40925&oldid=40910 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (-181) 10/* Documentation */ < 1415889514 978047 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1415889529 477410 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oerjan: you are the ones that know everything, aren't you? do you know any kind of paper/article about lexing of 2d languages? < 1415889614 685342 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan is known to do homework for people in here. So he *must* know a lot. < 1415889640 144289 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a 2D language < 1415889688 137702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i recall fizzie's jit thing compiled all four directions or something. < 1415889702 14872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: like befunge. see: < 1415889703 574364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: a fungelik < 1415889704 47001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1415889704 230878 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1415889704 415237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1415889768 424641 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you can compile all columns and rows as well < 1415889795 907513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will also allow you to do handle jumps to arbitrary locations without dynamic recompilation < 1415889806 595577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure, but befunge is also self-modifying < 1415889807 96362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to handle jumps < 1415889823 812028 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the language isn't self-modifying) < 1415889888 157620 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some forms of self-modification can be implemented by using fixed blocks of code for each instruction < 1415889893 98780 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then replace the blocks at runtime < 1415889911 462032 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which isn't really recompilation) < 1415890014 780357 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to fixed size blocks there will be nops in the generated code though) < 1415890063 187343 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lots of nops) < 1415890158 725363 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or you can link blocks together with jumps < 1415890166 873723 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just keep a jump table around < 1415890191 824063 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should test some day what is more efficient < 1415890739 783012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40926&oldid=40905 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* See also */ bullets < 1415890983 798435 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oerjan < 1415891064 203397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40927&oldid=40893 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-577) 10/* ATZ */ See the first paragraph of this talk page; also, information already at [[ATZ]]. < 1415891103 873300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hey _my_ name isn't a common suffix. < 1415891134 688885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kudos to anyone who can find a pre-existing language where it is.) < 1415891156 598021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my nick < 1415891160 646573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also name < 1415891829 700973 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415891863 954312 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415892071 954526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheeee < 1415892247 514785 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman applyRegexMatch < 1415892247 735367 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1415892256 118967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to, you moron! < 1415892277 564807 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1415892298 358992 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1415892306 258071 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415892591 304523 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell blsqbot applyRegexMatch < 1415892591 527326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1415892601 913078 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hihihi < 1415892615 137701 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1415892764 386847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tel qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq hi < 1415892764 570782 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1415892788 336026 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help tel < 1415892788 520009 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1415892796 648378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hulp < 1415892796 852569 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1415892801 581677 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did tel work? < 1415892810 223596 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has auto-correction < 1415892812 668797 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hölp < 1415892812 887365 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1415892817 469536 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hell < 1415892817 671186 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: tell help < 1415892827 246904 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lpeh < 1415892827 458424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: let leet < 1415892855 637615 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's you know... so that people can feel funny asking lambdabot for massages < 1415892860 486338 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages < 1415892860 670094 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1415892871 122512 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it < 1415892872 718563 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lewd < 1415892872 902587 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1415892909 285787 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't respond well to massage requestts < 1415892909 469869 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://video.google.com/ fnord < 1415892927 810929 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just tells you to go watch a video of massage on google < 1415892932 822253 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: uh I think Google Videos is deprecated in favour of Youtube < 1415892934 35230 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: shame there's no 68k emulator that does the same thing ( modulo the spaces)) < 1415892953 683195 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1415892968 797918 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :68k emulators ought to include google video playback in their feature set < 1415892977 747156 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo the spaces) < 1415893049 451938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lewd < 1415893049 635895 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1415893055 24605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, c'mon < 1415893188 277960 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really implement channel-specific defaults JUST TO DISABLE THAT AUTOCORRECTION ON #esoteric... < 1415893212 918766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1415893240 736581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jevalbot has one bit of per-channel setting, for enabling or disabling shortcut invocation < 1415893257 148855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's really nice for correcting some honest spelling mistakes. < 1415893396 479962 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1415893561 913105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: just add a @massages-lewd command < 1415893565 688943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then all the corrections will be ambiguous < 1415893615 394034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-hound < 1415893615 591599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1415894378 814805 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dwvkixaiaqzryzxt JOIN :#esoteric < 1415894530 814091 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1415894983 690029 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415895040 718179 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So that's what call/cc does. < 1415895078 822595 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1415895115 348262 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415895507 131206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BitZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40928&oldid=25395 5* 03116.58.254.129 5* (+17) 10/* I quoted the code, so the page looks better and is easier to navigate */ < 1415895756 830309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: if you're saying that there's like a 60% chance you're not entirely certain of call/cc's semantics yet :p < 1415895773 637594 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. That was too confident a statement. < 1415895793 357467 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc)) < 1415895807 245227 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only understand a fraction of some things that it can do, but they are specifically things that are useful with current internal questions about Heresy implementation. < 1415895815 884588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: If you would like some fun try and understand the interactions between call/cc and dynamic-wind < 1415895874 355469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it wasn't dynamic-wind. < 1415895879 398152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some complex interaction, anyway < 1415895911 762861 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, how you implement DO...LOOP and still be able to get out of it without mutatinng a variable. < 1415895939 284949 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also makes the Racket web server library make a slight bit more sense now. < 1415895945 251554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: fully-fledged undelimited continuations are probably a bad choice for that if you have alternatives < 1415895951 933922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inefficient, complex, dangerous) < 1415895972 436948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure racket has delimited continuations, at least, though really breaking out of a loop is just exception semantics which are a really tiny subset of call/cc < 1415895975 241709 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even understand call/cc < 1415895981 352196 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ive been trying to for years < 1415895984 622934 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, that is also a problem. < 1415895995 421367 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to look into some of the 'safer' options in Racket. < 1415896024 636899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html is a nice collection of polemic < 1415896027 341812 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :delimited continuations are much more conceptually simple and clear than calcc < 1415896082 605684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: yeah but they're so much easier to understand, it's boring :p < 1415896183 193762 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *glances at dynamic-wind* aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1415896210 100019 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*glances at examples* wot < 1415896218 37266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic-wind is like... "here's all the details of call/cc's havoc exposed to your program, good luck" < 1415896229 633279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like... try...finally : exceptions :: dynamic-wind : continuations < 1415896258 431273 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kernel's dynamic wind equivalent is still nuts. < 1415896306 593436 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you had dynamic wind and also included a tree of continuations < 1415896369 829383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh god, what < 1415896390 749199 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this whole thing about continuations having parents and children < 1415896400 694819 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't... really remember how it works, because what the fuck < 1415896447 542960 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the dynamic wind equivalent works by installing a handler for particular continuations, and then if that continuation or a child of it enters or exits (depending) the handler happens < 1415896487 291126 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the best part was that one part of it was included and the explanation is like "well nothing else has this and i can't think of a use but it's symmetric and therefore beautiful" < 1415896615 53225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like me designing languages... < 1415896625 334816 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like this entire channel! burn < 1415897045 772850 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1415898255 882587 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415898258 460909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: sizzling hot languages < 1415898287 757823 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wat m8 < 1415898292 923076 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1415898334 609623 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Such is the way of Scheme sometimes. ;) < 1415899062 777054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Primal < 1415899230 976701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo...? < 1415899282 444933 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's gotten the deads < 1415899368 95485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ut. < 1415899417 713646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415899420 628110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bettur. < 1415899421 771572 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1415899439 208652 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome elliot < 1415899440 292202 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06elliot: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1415899443 532560 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1415899559 49426 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e im gone~ < 1415899565 241403 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 QUIT : < 1415899727 712114 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1415899893 997721 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1415900157 961134 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415900372 683981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Actually, now that I think of it, I think those Scheme jobs were at SSH Communications instead. < 1415900463 325955 :dtscode_!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1415900747 804092 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that <> thing again? < 1415900941 277196 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no loop < 1415901070 319728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is :p < 1415901077 16089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial stuff like fix id or let x = x in x will produce it < 1415901117 823188 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p? < 1415901130 15961 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi, we've noticed all those threads waitinf for each other to finish a calculation. We've decided to put them out of their misery by delivering a Nontermination exception to each of them. Thank you for your attention and have a nice day." < 1415901133 184229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my face, with a tongue sticking out of it < 1415901134 187177 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> thing? < 1415901143 561270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: doesn't that have a different message? < 1415901194 907344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does :p do? < 1415901197 185446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :showsPrec _ NonTermination = showString "<>" < 1415901210 655248 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1415901212 279720 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a smiley < 1415901224 120385 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1415901230 105421 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1415901234 441688 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can ghci tell me where it loops? < 1415901259 802973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1415901272 734355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking useless ghci then < 1415901309 834123 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn loops. < 1415901314 290864 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1415901318 551302 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let x = x in x < 1415901322 652194 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not sure what to do with them in Heresy. < 1415901370 477585 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/EqO83Zwt < 1415901374 971858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- I don't see a loop < 1415901462 581847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I see the recursion of course) < 1415901469 301512 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a finite recursion on finite input < 1415901469 984011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1415901479 297156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a reason why this code won't terminate < 1415901532 750856 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if you get an empty match < 1415902065 315560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can get a backtrace < 1415902067 767465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :using -xc < 1415902081 704950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to like compile your program with profiling and rtsopts then pass +RTS -xc < 1415902084 700313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get a really ugly backtrace < 1415902086 595956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they've improved it < 1415902189 930110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oerjan < 1415902194 471639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :henkma outdid him again < 1415902320 980711 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1415902321 253879 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1415903095 257933 :dtscode_!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode PART :#esoteric < 1415903097 861300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415903460 523192 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when are Haskell and Perl esoteric? < 1415903545 683300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h, have you seen the average Haskell progam? < 1415903579 166906 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415903585 69624 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest, or an enlightened inner circle." - http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/esoteric < 1415903646 576364 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would seem to apply to fortran and cobol as well:) < 1415903656 100316 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using that logic you could call Scheme esoteric too < 1415903661 266086 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :k, rather "Having to do with concepts that are highly theoretical and without obvious practical application" < 1415903669 189018 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and forth < 1415903701 981387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"13. Provide the applied-for gTLD string. If an IDN, provide the U-label." "ooo" "We conducted extensive research on specialized websites and on generic search tools first. Our experts (computer engineers) have evaluated the string to conclude that there was no operational or rendering problem. We contacted outside experts who reached the same conclusion. Hence there are no known operational ... < 1415903708 73272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or rendering problems concerning the applied-for gTLD string." < 1415903861 668009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a TLD for e-commerce. < 1415903885 558320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since "ooo" is so evocative of trust and other such emotions. < 1415904017 489219 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415904083 515367 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky.ooo < 1415904100 499838 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415904106 449645 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that they launched .education as the legitimacy-free alternative to .edu. < 1415904110 714110 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a .institute for myself. < 1415904114 731459 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I am the Gregor Institute. < 1415904130 470159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell from the application, you can only use their e-commerce-site-builder to build .ooo sites. < 1415904141 247167 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1415904144 493317 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pale Moon can't find the server at www.spooky.ooo. < 1415904164 187037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they just have a list of requirements, now that I look closer. < 1415904167 640620 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn'y read what that was in reponse to. < 1415904199 567525 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415904202 996303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a spooky.ooo as long as you have "a physical address, a brand⁄store name, and a phone number" publicly displayed on the front page. < 1415904204 15745 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object Oriented Operations < 1415904251 9113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but that shouldn't happen @empty match < 1415904259 151727 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hm. < 1415904265 895243 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⁄ < 1415904266 467618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2044 FRACTION SLASH] < 1415904281 183561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: They use the FRACTION SLASH as a slash throughout the thing. < 1415904304 132476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It renders real badly in the browser with this particular monospace font. < 1415904314 367536 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how they came to misuse it that way. < 1415904322 638941 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it loops forever with allMatches'' f regex "" ng nv as well < 1415904326 184998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Overlaps with the neighboring characters, and messes up the monospacing.) < 1415904351 877728 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the physical address be an empty lot, and the phone number something that just connects you to something like delayed feedback or a numbers station? < 1415904361 269063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Well, what's the regex? I mean, if it's capable of empty match, you can find the empty match in "". < 1415904381 435179 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1415904390 657603 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm catching Just(_, "", _, _) -> error "nope" now < 1415904394 914277 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't throw an error nope < 1415904397 10463 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1415904400 506925 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the match is not empty < 1415904450 27499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1415904469 477135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: There is an "eligibility test". < 1415904475 982362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/7LcMg07u < 1415904484 907541 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: MatchesAll runs through < 1415904488 991270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ApplyRegex runs forever < 1415904493 638711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :same regex, same input string < 1415905709 627423 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415905721 617152 :LauraFinder!~LauraFind@holger.devality.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415906554 262982 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unintended but quite idiomatic result in Heresy: Because most Heresy forms are just macros for Racket, and I've yet to implement any more specific error handling for said macros, it means the default error for most Heresy functions is just a 'bad syntax' error. < 1415907092 700494 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/050/4/5/syntax_error_by_gmphoenix-d39syyv.png < 1415907137 20759 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1415908395 431292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mneme14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40929&oldid=8577 5* 03BCompton 5* (+12) 10Dead link < 1415908485 409220 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415908495 68583 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415908762 25090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From elsewhere in the ircwebs, possibly not news: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/UserManager.html#isUserAGoat%28%29 < 1415908830 391122 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Return whether the given user is actively running." I didn't know they had APIs for that < 1415908863 708363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they had APIs for goat stuff at all, nor that being a goat is somehow related to teleportation. < 1415908891 822390 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the teleportation thing is a reference to mountain goats < 1415908953 77069 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"advanced goat recognition technology" < 1415908962 756386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'Return whether the given user is actively running' is from a serious method, by the way < 1415908984 910921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently goat teleportation is also a joke in Chrome. < 1415909027 166187 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a method that 'will also return true if the user had been running but is in the process of being stopped (but is not yet fully stopped)', I wonder if that triggers if the user is being chased by the police < 1415909035 175179 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps if the user is about to hit a wall < 1415909051 316760 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :propably < 1415909104 902267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently isUserAGoat it used to return false always, but now returns true if isPackageAvailable("com.coffeestainstudios.goatsimulator"). < 1415909122 533306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's what the "advanced goat recognition technology" is referring to. < 1415909136 48447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's the goat simulator game.) < 1415909722 920154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1415909853 816145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=31482 < 1415909987 781637 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1415910149 777658 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415910269 770918 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415910860 150420 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1415911246 687918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time well spent. < 1415912137 17656 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1415912589 357761 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this <> is really annoying. < 1415912713 895845 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1415912718 732567 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :allMatches seems to terminate < 1415912725 358071 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1415912739 304542 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might be lazyness stuff < 1415912953 738566 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1415912955 128781 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed it < 1415912956 762040 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamnit < 1415913058 949286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) "[0-9]+"{<-}"abc127def789bum"~a < 1415913059 757726 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abc721def987" < 1415913062 228234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1415913095 618107 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let (_, g', v', str) = (allMatches'' f regex str g v) < 1415913100 780800 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be the problem < 1415913109 644177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :str/str < 1415913113 249575 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1415913143 859932 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, my number theory lecturer doesn't quite get the notion of a relation < 1415913144 93353 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let (_, g', v', str) = (allMatches'' f regex str g v) < 1415913148 538506 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) "[0-9]+"{ri?iSh}"abc127def789bum"~a < 1415913149 302358 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abc128def790" < 1415913158 629036 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1415913167 570235 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently ~ : ZxZ -> Z is a relation < 1415913171 391220 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows you to apply a function on what a regex matches < 1415913173 979779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An equivalence relation, no less < 1415913203 19159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's ... interesting. < 1415913239 776021 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pointed this out to him in the lecture, and he sort of handwaved it in a not very satisfying manner < 1415913257 273634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(his definition of ~, other than its type, is an equivalence relation) < 1415913272 636771 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a set of pairs? < 1415913305 235856 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just says z1 ~ z2 <=> z1 = z2 (mod m) < 1415913350 734486 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw what's the mathsy word of type signature? < 1415913351 517731 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he thinks of relations in terms of indicator functions? But even then the codomain would be nicer if written as {0,1}. < 1415913396 778766 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :type. carrier set. domain (of a variable)... I don't know. < 1415913433 553897 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, He may be alluding to the fact that a function like that induces an equivalence relation < 1415913451 147852 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila, I don't think that's the case < 1415913464 233336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: but that would be an equivalence relation on pairs of numbers. < 1415913502 572699 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh yeah I see < 1415913524 674901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or it needs further explanation, like that there is a congruence relation for that function...) < 1415913572 737523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x~x', y~y' imply f(x,y)~f(x',y')) < 1415913657 562379 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :For relations I'd usually just write ~ \subseteq ZxZ rather than deciding on a notation for the power set. < 1415913693 207332 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the ZxZ -> Z started out as ZxZ -> 2 < 1415913752 410076 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is typed notes < 1415913753 39930 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the 2 is just backwards! < 1415913774 691535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Zs all have sharp angles and doubly lines < 1415913799 159998 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's still a possibility < 1415913808 269106 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those typed notes were not created in a vacuum. < 1415913874 621924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that was what he wrote on the blackboard in the lecture, and I did press him about it < 1415913878 718295 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he stuck with Z < 1415913901 459108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell him that the internet agrees with you that he's wrong < 1415913903 184549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Z" stands for "Zboolean" < 1415913908 42418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's german < 1415913915 966347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not. < 1415913925 412066 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :) < 1415913931 789100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it is. you clearly never met george zbool < 1415913935 738782 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could argue for W = Wahrheitswert. < 1415913937 786341 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the same guy I got the 0 \elem N shirt for) < 1415913988 464659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have not, that is true. I have not met George Boole either, but at least there's a historical record of him. < 1415914014 660513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: okay, I admit, it's actually french < 1415914032 570062 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rather doubt it. < 1415914040 69078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :géorgé zbool < 1415914053 243215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially given your recent track record for sticking to the Truth and making things up. < 1415914070 102291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're ruining my reputation :( < 1415914071 64978 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :giorgio zibouli < 1415914079 71671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famous italian mathematician < 1415914085 93388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't have to, you're doing an excellent job all by yourself. < 1415914096 603504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1415914099 812173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did we go wrong, int-e < 1415914105 581219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :things used to be so much better than this < 1415914158 57810 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415914232 205479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it went wrong when you tried saving a joke that wasn't funny the first time. < 1415914289 775782 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if you stop asking rhetorical questions I can stop answering them ;-) < 1415914363 541282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it was so bad it couldn't get less funny by extending it. < 1415914461 882784 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I found it funny) < 1415914490 824414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, Taneb. < 1415914763 549886 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1415915055 171979 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415915076 56109 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fingers are cold so i cant do much < 1415915091 774181 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :go catch some fresh air < 1415915132 638400 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah im outside its just i've been typing fast for like an hour and im pretty sure typing fast isnt good when im coding a library < 1415915141 245617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how cold are your fingers? < 1415915143 505741 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: apparently there were pre-cl lisps which had more than lament is refusing to fork after about 130 processes. ( i'm fnord the new ubuntu release, no? < 1415915174 730521 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were typing fast, shouldn't that have heated up your fingers? < 1415915181 286856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot actually take the context into account when replying, or is it just scanning for its nickname? < 1415915181 589117 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so how does that affect boxing? like using cells? sounds a bit cliché...... < 1415915190 63797 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you are in 29 degree weather < 1415915191 269950 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nah, it just scans for the nickname < 1415915195 687311 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1415915195 871533 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1415915200 553142 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1415915214 532721 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Cell boxing. < 1415915234 227112 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION boxes fungot
< 1415915234 450433 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i found at http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/gambit/ doc/ 360/ fnord/ ffi < 1415915250 881604 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike ubuntu for many reason's >_> < 1415915259 119276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool if it did somehow base on what you wrote on the trigger line, but I think that might be an unreasonable expectation on fizzie to do that < 1415915260 219396 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what an uppercut would look like.) < 1415915317 223086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The Perl prototype can continue from a predefined starting context, but fungot itself doesn't even have the mapping from strings to token indices. < 1415915317 447162 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and dotted pair with car and cdr locations. 2. < 1415915348 437081 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What were you guys talking about before i got in? < 1415915363 675544 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Primal: we have logs, see the topic < 1415915376 592924 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry i just got to the logs < 1415915454 468264 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you want to be re-implemented in lisp? < 1415915454 682807 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're going to get that particular bot going. good night. fnord, < 1415915466 721901 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might be a yes < 1415915493 908854 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and apparently I'm supposed to be responsible for it?) < 1415915495 47789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another reasonable thing is to interpolate the language model between the original and a one built from the input, but usually the inputs are pretty short. < 1415915512 321646 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh i see nvm < 1415915547 854811 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do i have to ask a mod? to join a bot here or something < 1415915564 324252 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an annoying bot < 1415915566 844215 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not you're probably ok < 1415915620 192710 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope im working on it atm for some pay, The patron did a bad job at making it but they are my friend so im helping i just need to test it < 1415915642 370607 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill do that later when ever i get the library sorted < 1415916074 220114 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorch are you in here? < 1415916083 736857 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1415916156 343677 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415916227 990304 :Primal!a4742fb4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.116.47.180 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1415916762 233716 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what Rosetta didn't find: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/rosetta.png ) < 1415917332 241450 :S1!~S1@p4FF93A8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1415917370 38364 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415917873 876467 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1415918055 80809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1415918116 841078 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Vorpal < 1415918119 797985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How goes? < 1415919087 555512 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415919489 103812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... am using ssh and X forwarding to get MATLAB < 1415919513 373559 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can procrastinate better < 1415919521 841123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By having MATLAB open and not looking at it < 1415919644 239429 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a good internet connection, do you? < 1415919663 364706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not good enough < 1415919688 118593 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I wanted to do this properly, I would walk a mile to the uni CS lab where MATLAB is installed) < 1415919689 625874 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've stopped using X forwarding; running things in Xvnc + vncviewer -via is much more bandwidth efficient) < 1415919732 70594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so I've found, personally) < 1415920040 815476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try xpra < 1415920044 220360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to both of you < 1415920095 567471 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks pretty cool < 1415920117 685221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot better than X forwarding. < 1415920138 810650 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, though I probably won't (usually I'm happy with local X and ssh, and I have a script for making the vnc thing easy already) < 1415920155 437648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, xpra lets you use your local WM :) < 1415920400 441881 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415920440 592682 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415920457 302829 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1415920984 474530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415921176 466886 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415921199 65600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415922165 342607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way to implement action symbols in a shift-reduce parser: The result type is the same as the type of action symbols, and this type forms a monoid. Each production has exactly one action symbol (which may be the identity symbol). The lexer also produces action symbols; whenever it is called to get a new token, the action symbol of the previous token is applied. < 1415922429 52351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then apply this to a "passive skip-reduce parser". The above ensures that the grammar is "passive". And then each nondefault action can be a shift or a skip (which is like a shift, except it pushes nothing to the stack but still go to another state which won't be on the stack and will therefore be forgotten); each default action can be a reduce, an accept, or an error. < 1415922526 265685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which grammars can be reduced to such a form? If you make a CFSM and then there is a reduce-reduce conflict, how can you attempt to unify the conflicting productions? < 1415923017 268266 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascinating, how did I arrive at 1 alphanum less than henkma, but the same length... (Leapfrogging) < 1415923021 197455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1415923039 132276 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah oerjan will know ;-) < 1415923058 445234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(k)now what < 1415923081 113137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing, I just caught up on Leapfroggin. < 1415923109 177329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1415923178 747230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did have a feeling those last two i did weren't optimal, although 19 bytes shorter is a bit more than i expected < 1415923179 6942 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the statistics are a bit odd.