< 1407802950 727941 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407803215 151337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How soon until Backpack becomes the Haskell way to do things? < 1407804269 690191 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407805009 834898 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it stops being what you carry to hike a long way < 1407807342 680366 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1407807635 891292 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407808711 585910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ask #haskell < 1407808860 878107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Haskell can be a convenient notation for describing many things (in a kind of mathematical kind of way), whether or not the program is actually written in Haskell (or even if it is not a computer program at all). < 1407810394 47775 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407811926 236184 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have told someone that dynamically making an SQL query is not necessarily that terrible... after checking that the possible insertion is one of a fixed number of possibilties < 1407811946 334601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/PoseidonAW/Py_RPG/commit/dd00ec6dc0653a5a54bc67fea79a1a269c2c5d9e#commitcomment-7349049 < 1407812730 307209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: seems sane to me < 1407819940 300986 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407819993 662743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1407820768 675343 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1407821004 615046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: (Assuming that 'name' is an unique field,) how is the behavior of that select-and-fetch-and-update any different from the single query UPDATE players SET foo = foo + ? WHERE name = ? < 1407821045 168723 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I didn't write the code nor look at it that closely, but I can make the suggestion < 1407821047 932797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You don't get to print the old and new values with that, of course, but that seems more of a debugging thing.) < 1407821094 466238 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you can do math in SQL? < 1407821207 99553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The behavior might be slightly different on overflow. < 1407821281 745081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes of course you can do math in SQL. < 1407821311 830066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a full programming language. < 1407821330 250603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Python addition will switch from 'int' to 'long' (bignum), and I'm not entirely sure whether the insert of a too large value will do exactly the same thing than what the database would do on overflow during expression evaluation. But it doesn't seem to be carefully considering that in any case. < 1407821419 192010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is/becomes necessary to know whether the update affected any rows (like for calling update_stats or not), testing for cursor.rowcount > 0 is an option. < 1407821823 777355 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16485.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1407821943 727110 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16485.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1407821956 54916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does python call bignums long anyway < 1407822029 870318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're so long. (Really, it's v. confusing.) < 1407822085 12265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes me wonder if an early Python had fixed-but-different-size int and long. < 1407822153 40890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also its ints are C longs.) < 1407822607 803365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 3 calls both types 'int' and just handles the distinction between fixnums and bignums internally. < 1407823012 144145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs long long. < 1407823067 845126 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-170-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the long bignums, used to represent numbers too large for positional numeral to be practicable < 1407825795 313919 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And LiterallyUnbelievable misses the joke... http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/93775401734/i-suspect-genetics-plays-a-role < 1407825830 751906 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it doesn't just do people who take The Onion literally < 1407826233 707943 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16485.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1407826369 1094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So please propose topics both in Finnish and English! (and if possible for you, Swedish would be useful, too. We have a couple students wiring in Swedish each semester.)" < 1407826378 272086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how Swedish wiring differs from the regular sort. < 1407826455 382886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1407827023 912422 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was supposed to say "writing"? < 1407827157 706704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe! < 1407827280 840186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's a holdoff from the 50s when the swedes drove on the left side < 1407827605 427530 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that continued a bit into the 60s actually < 1407827967 469476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1407829592 761525 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407830183 90265 :jj2baile!~jon@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1407830229 112624 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407830560 515016 :jj2baile!~jon@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1407830599 534427 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1407831049 351559 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407831058 524096 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick poll: how many of you can reliably ping uwaterloo.ca? < 1407831071 733524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1407831090 615381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1407831147 914166 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelated: america again is an excellent book < 1407831176 75017 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a wonderful story about the aynt and the grasshopper, which ends with Ayn Rand crushing them both underfoot because the ant colony reminded her of communism < 1407831675 825832 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhmmmm... I need a machine I can reverse tunnel through : < 1407831855 680414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AOL! < 1407831908 474556 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-76-125.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407832079 28711 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the most complicated thing I have ever done in assembly. https://github.com/jarcane/MicroMini/blob/master/helloworld.mmasm < 1407832242 310780 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next to make a Quine of it. :D < 1407832325 322643 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what assembly is that? MMIX? < 1407832342 697171 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MicroMini, the virtual machine I built (code is elsewhere in that repo). < 1407832581 417622 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool < 1407832637 321719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conundrum with assembly quines: are they intrinsically cheating or not < 1407832667 902468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they don't have to be < 1407832802 98376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think intrinsically cheating would usually be done in higher-level languages like c < 1407832811 69312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in assembly you would just write the instruction < 1407832812 743732 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually come to think of it I am not sure how I'd even do a quine with that. I guess maybe I could just change the test so that the printer loops over the entire program. < 1407832848 198351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i mean, it is usually considered cheating for a quine to access its program code directly < 1407832866 255072 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think that'd just produce a lot of garbage. And if I printed everything from a data string, that data string would itself have to contain the data string ad infinitum. < 1407832878 523968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: presumably an assembly quine would need to print the assembly input, not the generated code < 1407832884 81358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1407832892 281591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway it was just trying to be an "intrinsic" pun of some sort < 1407832900 965538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1407832909 798547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrinsic_function < 1407832910 836130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1407832921 756326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not succeed at this < 1407832936 692949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like watching a train wreck. < 1407832939 847141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The place where puns go to die | brainfuck survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/L82SNZV | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1407832947 350774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep < 1407832955 46766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I don't think I've ever watched one. < 1407832981 170810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#trains is probably the channel for them < 1407832982 706451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1407833056 933343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] And if I printed everything from a data string, that data string would itself have to contain the data string ad infinitum. <-- you're not very well acquainted with quines, i take. < 1407833082 928593 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not really, beyond the wiki entry and a few mentions here. < 1407833093 606334 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I've misunderstood the directive. < 1407833101 120913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :directive? < 1407833121 664307 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, words failing, brain tired: read instead intent/instructions/etc. < 1407833204 35819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the clue is that you use the data string _twice_, once to print the data string and once to print the rest of the code. (possibly not in order.) < 1407833210 42275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prime directive is to not interfere with natural quine development. < 1407833217 426532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oops < 1407833250 666782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to that i say, what evidence have we that quines have _ever_ developed naturally < 1407833302 833041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sweeps the body of godel under the rug < 1407833394 841099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the universe is a quine that has always existed, and the others are mere subcopies of it. < 1407833406 91811 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think it's cheating to access the program code directly < 1407833416 548966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1407833423 389589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heretic! < 1407833478 237402 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be? < 1407833491 850425 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quine is just a fixed point < 1407833696 193131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a C program that printed out its machine code would be cool < 1407833708 119529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean, its compiled executable < 1407833779 952997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can print any computable function of the code, so that shouldn't be too hard < 1407833781 440990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonus points if it works with multiple OSes and compilers < 1407833793 367023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in less code than gcc, preferably :) < 1407833799 836523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH < 1407833809 889276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not actually that hard. < 1407833948 178903 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407834136 158114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One think I want to do is write a standards-compliant but horrible C implementation < 1407834136 357349 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407834174 305965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure it doesn't support the struct hack < 1407834178 843393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean a DS9K simulator? < 1407834193 620250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_either_ 1 or MAXSIZE form < 1407834217 249099 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, along those lines < 1407834218 841172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone made a DS9K < 1407834273 523263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been some attempts, but I don't know of anything that really went anywhere. < 1407834394 973274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ds9k.com is... a blog about freeware programs? < 1407834400 837456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's unexpected. < 1407834462 416989 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407834528 79711 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got as far as having part of a preprocessor and most of a tokenizer < 1407834553 579172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's longer than the most prominent Google hit of https://github.com/nitrix/ds9k < 1407834569 973219 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1407834639 784137 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Removing the hard drive from the PC and hitting it with a large hammer will stop easy access to the data but will not stop a more determined attacker unless you use a very large hammer." < 1407834654 350068 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407834662 507975 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- actual text of a university policy here < 1407834748 47944 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I've got some 1500 lines of Haskell that probably doesn't compile against modern library versions < 1407834811 741469 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407834898 640763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty safe bet < 1407835006 655036 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407835133 44921 :scshunt_!449046fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.144.70.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1407835271 434327 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407835462 374287 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407835704 435652 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407835891 120129 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407836007 478759 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1407836198 443817 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407836385 428325 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407836669 93078 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407836781 218285 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oucwdhyewkibzdxg QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1407836857 328397 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407837181 548840 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407837368 639428 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407837688 133750 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407837726 118162 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pehorgwzmyrdkokv JOIN :#esoteric < 1407837876 348449 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407838291 114905 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407838512 476679 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407838853 344273 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407839117 266692 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407839437 266083 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407839624 787467 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407839820 349180 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407840010 941717 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407840332 193404 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407840523 871748 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407840838 206874 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407841028 157066 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407841197 346884 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aretecode: hi good connection < 1407841297 257607 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407841484 490516 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407841761 123169 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407841836 441538 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1407841836 797246 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407841883 450896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :aretecode!aretecode@69.163.36.90##fixyourconnection > 1407841883 472418 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407841889 917555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1407841889 939082 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407841906 180805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1407841951 652820 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407841974 517471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody syntax < 1407841977 419810 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1407841977 442063 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407841985 153309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :aretecode!aretecode@69.163.36.90##fixyourconnection > 1407841985 174796 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407842008 858924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :aretecode!*aretecode@69.163.36.90$##fixyourconnection > 1407842008 880896 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407842071 560571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1407842071 582534 NAMES :#esoteric < 1407842262 234410 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1407842334 472992 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm: isn't befunge's thing where it "tries to be hard to compile" sort of meaningless < 1407842374 445125 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean an interpreter in C with fixed source code is pretty much "compiled befunge" < 1407842490 823843 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty much but not really < 1407842626 96292 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's admittedly kind of a cheaty solution but what's really the difference! < 1407842627 697744 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, when done like that, ahead-of-time compilation doesn't improve performance over plain interpretation < 1407842677 989489 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is something that you'd usually expect to be the case and is I guess the original main reason for compiling stuff < 1407842686 16205 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C7C9.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1407842714 969098 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1407843623 267836 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess to do it 'properly' you'd have to incorporate a JIT compiler into the final executable < 1407843679 640313 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1407843882 867916 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407844358 461175 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1407844688 316046 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1407844707 94048 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that counts any more than embedding an interpreter does < 1407844872 731003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407845898 819912 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, eh, i think it satisfies the criterion that separarates compilers from 'interpreters bundled with source' < 1407846086 397555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good old compiler debate rears its ugly head. < 1407846167 391569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Does ##fixyourconnection exist? < 1407846208 956781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1407846225 421422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :##c auto-redirect-bans to ##stop_join_flood, so I guess there's competition in the market. < 1407846416 745918 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "JIT compiler bundled with source" seems like a variant of the latter to me < 1407846487 933905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How did it feel when you were compiled? < 1407846488 132901 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i just had a blank program. < 1407846498 601462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've been terrible. < 1407846609 993291 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407846676 773680 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, not necessarily bundled with source, just used on the result of g/p instructions < 1407846689 502461 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which, now i think about it, is the same as the actual source < 1407846701 508411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky bastards < 1407846719 491294 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1407847125 859707 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1407847340 145689 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407847669 324601 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407848539 565445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1407848857 868120 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407849240 392075 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PART :#esoteric < 1407849705 895677 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407852500 497573 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407852526 298194 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407854465 122526 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407856948 916702 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: (set-jarcane-connect! J_Arcane #f) < 1407857673 730514 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1407857712 73842 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407857913 886996 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-74-195.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407857946 597219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407858130 885678 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-170-198.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407858834 424992 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1407858956 615756 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:29df:9fdc:c3ff:b926 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407858980 717065 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407859209 144852 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-74-195.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1407860812 552898 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1407860966 311547 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1407860980 627700 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1407862156 305631 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16485.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1407862447 775630 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1407862448 258956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 121620Z 07004KT 040V110 9999 FEW025 SCT055 BKN065 17/12 Q1015 NOSIG < 1407862538 846616 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407862818 608407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and LOWI is the ICAO code for the local airport. < 1407862853 489831 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrong channel) < 1407863023 891332 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407864755 13972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=63944 < 1407864924 982316 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I was thinking about base -2 arithmetic < 1407865230 941680 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-151-186.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like symmetric base 3. < 1407865307 132275 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407865318 656943 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407865482 161578 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407865579 801309 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i have no clue how to run this < 1407865605 165001 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link in the readme is just broken too wow < 1407866199 419565 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407866262 494622 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: run npm install in the directory, and then node app.js < 1407866275 261823 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had trouble figuring it out myself < 1407866286 325355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yeah, it's called negabinary < 1407866463 960462 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is evil. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_base < 1407866501 615007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not evil. < 1407866565 191083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though counting takes some getting used to. 0 1 110 111 100 101 11000 ... < 1407866603 197530 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :_:D < 1407866660 362387 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. the last one should be 11010. < 1407866757 423518 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nega-zeckendorf representation is worse. < 1407867114 768764 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, not so evil as quarter-imaginary < 1407867138 531007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :or golden ratio base, every time i think i understand that i forget the details < 1407867587 288154 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1407867664 140943 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407867838 385078 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407867949 628116 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C7C9.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1407868519 710870 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407869336 463951 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1407869546 348362 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1407869571 68546 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily! haven't seen you around here in a bit... < 1407869713 302485 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1407869716 497916 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from Spain! < 1407870192 917767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened in spain? < 1407870232 397346 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was with my parents, enjoying the sun, the narrow streets, the tapas, the architecture... < 1407870238 303268 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens in spain stays in spain < 1407870263 348615 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: sadly yes. I'll miss the food. < 1407870276 716040 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls the taste of the delicious chipirónes... < 1407870617 164254 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1407871076 94801 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407871651 250479 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407871677 709007 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407871733 334955 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407871752 784465 :nooodl!~nooodl@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407872213 458986 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1407872556 139439 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407873051 692442 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1407873239 818201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, gedit (I use it occasionally to look at clipboard, as opposed to selection) has turned into something completely different-looking. It no longer has regular menu bars, instead it just has a combined toolbar-titlebar thing, and a rounded-corners-and-drop-shadow window that it draws itself. With a XMonad-drawn solid red border hovering a centimetre away. < 1407873273 817356 :nooodl!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407873298 650994 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: disgraceful! < 1407873379 993581 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-149-209.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407873568 762208 :nooodl!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407873592 710441 :nooodl!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407874015 873835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140812-gedit.png just look at that stuff < 1407874094 41930 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1407874155 487098 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-094-221-215-107.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1407874223 189593 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the humanity. < 1407874242 339134 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nice fungot backdrop, tho.) < 1407874242 636804 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you want a bit of a functional solution first if i can put it on pretty much everything is better nekkid < 1407874254 280673 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for oversized buttons and fonts < 1407874260 930543 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I like your source code naked, you kinky bot you ;) < 1407874261 270529 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, that too. seemed to confirm people's satanic conspiracy theories about lucent... but then, i have no clue what you are < 1407874277 705791 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I am an abnormally tanned Canadian. < 1407874277 942173 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( b)? no way, twb, but he's doing an excercise, so that's good. < 1407874280 294310 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-151-186.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1407874280 881243 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-151-186.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407874292 28392 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes way. < 1407874292 221660 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's 22 tokens in all. < 1407874303 82402 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I have a 5 euro bill. will that do? < 1407874314 145144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's up with this recent averseness to menu bars?! < 1407874354 416401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "cogwheel button" pops up a giant menu with everything in it. < 1407874373 102112 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, nice?! < 1407874415 721327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Save functionality, search and replace, fullscreen mode, spell-checking, syntax highlighting, help, about, close, quit. < 1407874418 714829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all there. < 1407874427 755357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all related to cogwheels. < 1407874436 109036 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: GNOME developers have started drinking the tablet koolaid, sadly. < 1407874451 327668 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of a big schism right now. < 1407874451 644103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, only "save as" and "save all". The regular save is the button with the arrow. < 1407874456 879408 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the cogwheel is nicer than firebox's "menu bar" bars < 1407874472 965698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The three parallel horizontal bars? < 1407874481 642086 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my floppy! how will I know what newfangled button will save? < 1407874482 485819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from a purely aesthetic point of view) < 1407874486 728063 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes that one < 1407874488 595458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got that in both Chromium and Icedove here, it must be some kind of a standard. < 1407874506 185957 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have it in firefox anymore, but it took some effort ;) < 1407874509 112527 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Man, the Firefox menu button doesn't even make *sense*. At least the one on Chrome actualyl brings up a list; the FF menu is actually an icon bin. < 1407874523 333487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cogwheels are everywhere in Android, too. < 1407874545 60481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's this userChrome.css entry: #PanelUI-button { display: none !important } < 1407874570 327964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Icedove/Thunderbird menu bar button menu (...) is a two-panel menu. < 1407874581 608183 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-094-221-215-107.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1407874601 276732 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-215-107.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1407874678 390736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140812-icedove.png < 1407874693 486705 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just implemented Deadfish in TI-BASIC. Reminds me why I avoid programming in it. < 1407874694 408358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's mostly a two-column menu except with some icons thrown in. < 1407874733 790201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1407874775 60952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ice*dove*, not iceweasel. < 1407874808 695877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks the same here. for some reason I don't notice the button so much though < 1407874847 779308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it to quit. < 1407874850 301308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about it. < 1407874858 212069 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason is actually simple - I have a search bar at the rightmost end of the iceweasel tool bar, and that gets displaced by the useless menu button) < 1407874877 919345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I activated the menu bar in icedove. < 1407874924 250717 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd quit using Ctrl-Q. < 1407874946 41569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never remember whether it's ctrl-q or ctrl-shift-q or what in which program. < 1407874952 405791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromium does ctrl-shift-q. < 1407874962 738657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get those two mixed up. < 1407874978 191885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "compose a new message" window in Icedove has a regular menu bar. < 1407874980 741897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be ctrl-q < 1407874993 180677 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :icedove really messes me up with its redefined ctrl-f < 1407875020 595859 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, "forward" is not important enough to steal a standard keybinding. < 1407875371 371940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1407875625 737506 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION playfully mapoles oerjan < 1407875687 960008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know metasepia has been fired < 1407875699 800283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot took eir job < 1407875706 650437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1407875707 90922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 122020Z 16006KT 100V220 CAVOK 18/08 Q0994 RMK WIND 670FT 19019KT < 1407875732 919664 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... EEEEEEH? < 1407875737 98824 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1407875747 742951 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1407875748 105844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 122000Z 15021KT 15SM FEW055 BKN085 OVC220 27/14 A2993 RMK CU1AC4CI3 SLP136 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1407875751 815414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never metasepia i didn't like < 1407875757 85558 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what happens when you log out your bot, boily < 1407875760 967836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently int-e did < 1407875763 75593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, but you cannot expect a bot to keep a channel job with that kind of spotty attendance. < 1407875766 767736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would never have happened if metasepia had actually been here reliably. < 1407875778 43820 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :je proteste. < 1407875794 864595 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles shachaf for that horrible pun. < 1407875804 182654 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. such is life. < 1407875825 280927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should be proud. ~metar was so useful that I missed it when it wasn't there :P < 1407875835 770420 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: heh :D < 1407875841 161939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proper punishment for meta-puns is the falling anvil hth < 1407875890 830739 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an official Chännel Änvil? < 1407875902 646908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly i'm the one getting crushed by it < 1407875913 381295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i supposed it's rare these days. < 1407875916 753003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-d < 1407875989 805574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you could have looked it up in the logs, back when HackEgo had them >_> < 1407876040 102801 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complex for my jetlagged brain. < 1407876046 629777 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides, I think I'm hungry.) < 1407876098 370640 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do anvils work on irc anyway? < 1407876114 270397 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the same as they do in minecraft? < 1407876125 285688 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know. I never touched an anvil. < 1407876280 346943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, it's simple: you drop the anvil; the target feels suitably smashed; life goes on. < 1407876305 499922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(step 2 is optional) < 1407876570 526747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1407876574 635479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2 is the most important one < 1407876725 764931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think step 1 is the optional one - the anvil is not to be trusted. < 1407876860 103659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 3 is not so much optional as irrelevant < 1407876963 437595 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1407877034 677438 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407877062 30397 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but step 3 is a crucial difference between IRC and real life < 1407877800 761248 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407877800 998292 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1407877991 334313 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407877998 67905 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I musn't be tempted by the mattress. I mustn't be tempted by the mattress. I mustn't be tempted by the mattress. my mind is pure and completely devoid of any visions of sleep. < 1407878008 870042 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407878330 109674 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1407878352 64216 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407878452 898507 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. z Z < 1407878505 183643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℤ < 1407878554 498361 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be that easily corrupted by those earthly delights. < 1407878726 938753 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407878832 204184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. 𝕫 ℤ < 1407878865 683897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝕾𝕷𝕰𝕰𝕻. < 1407879577 368355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, 𝕫 < 1407879584 532834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's advanced < 1407879635 196322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 𝕫="sleep" in 𝕫 < 1407879636 742731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "sleep" < 1407879719 748096 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1407879735 346871 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407880707 897194 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407881326 290232 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I surrender. < 1407881332 397683 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SPANISH CHICKEN < 1407881873 80381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: 𝕫𝕫𝕫𝕫 < 1407883159 339002 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1407883180 163039 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407883759 386754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407884066 774658 :J_Arcane!~jarcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1407886353 939476 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407887459 197562 :ineiros!~itniemin@hasturlovelace.cloud.tilaa.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1407887527 855484 :ineiros!~itniemin@hasturlovelace.cloud.tilaa.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407887621 603349 :IIXII!~Emp@197.28.99.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407887895 864268 :IIXII!~Emp@197.28.99.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407887910 200255 :nooodl!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407887935 708627 :nooodl!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:7176:d495:e0bb:1101 JOIN :#esoteric