00:00:24 <oerjan> no:effekt, in addition to en:power, also corresponds to en:effect, of course.
00:01:08 <boily> en:"power settings" would be fr:"consommation énergétique". énergie would be joules, whereas puissance'd be watts.
00:02:26 <oerjan> boily: windows seems to use "strømalternativer" for that menu
00:02:56 <boily> no:alternativ is en:setting? interesting.
00:03:04 <oerjan> no, it's really more like option
00:03:23 <boily> oh. hm. well. makes sense.
00:05:39 <oerjan> so to sum up: en:power -> no:effekt, no:strøm or no:kraft, where those are also physical dimensions measured in watt, ampere and newton, respectively.
00:06:45 <oerjan> oh there's also no:makt, which isn't physics related but which politicians like to have
00:08:15 <fizzie> Teho, (sähkö)virta, voima, valta.
00:08:42 <boily> puissance, courant, force, and I don't know about the fourth one.
00:09:11 <boily> (puissance again???)
00:09:46 <fizzie> You don't measure en:power in amperes and newtons either, since those are the units for current and force, to be fair.
00:10:18 <oerjan> fizzie: that was, like the joke.
00:10:52 <fizzie> Well, it's not like I read it.
00:11:04 <boily> every physical measurment is the same in Norwegian. oerjan is the Grand Unificator.
00:11:49 <oerjan> http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/puissance_politique looks like it's at least used for politics somehow...
00:11:56 * oerjan cannot actually read that page
00:12:49 <oerjan> oh wait http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pouvoir_politique
00:13:21 <oerjan> which has no english interwiki but has http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politisk_makt
00:13:33 <oerjan> i say pouvoir is better, then
00:14:21 <boily> pouvoir politique is more common, although there's also influence politique.
00:15:22 <coppro> what's the standard unit of political power?
00:15:25 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(social_and_political) has all the right interwikis
00:15:50 <oerjan> coppro: the bismarck hth
00:27:01 <fizzie> For your edification, esolangs.org daily traffic (in megabytes) for last week: http://goo.gl/gOe61K
00:27:32 <boily> what do the colours mean?
00:27:40 <fizzie> Uh, with "in" as the darker blue and "out" as the lighter. I forgot I didn't add a legend.
00:27:49 <fizzie> The chart url api is nasty, anyway.
00:28:40 <fizzie> (It's not all wiki traffic, that's the whole thing from the VPS.)
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00:51:08 <oerjan> <impomatic_> 4.7% of vintage computing items on eBay are described as "rare" <-- well it could be true as long as they're all different
00:52:23 <boily> there should be a standard Rare Vintage Computing Block. it doesn't do anything. it's rare, it's vintage, it computinges, and it has ISO metric dimensions.
00:55:15 <zzo38> Do you know how to get AY-3-8910 or anything compatible?
00:56:46 <boily> from google images, I guess it's for sound generation.
01:10:34 <zzo38> Yes, AY-3-8910 is sound chip
01:10:45 <zzo38> It also has two 8-bit I/O ports
01:19:39 <boily> can't it be bought on digikey or suchlike?
01:24:27 <zzo38> The company no longer makes it I think; there may be clones but I don't know exactly which one, and what is best.
01:26:31 <zzo38> I wanted to see if I can do something like this: http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/User:Zzo38/Mapper_A
01:28:37 <zzo38> Of course I have not tested this but I have read the datasheet for AY-3-8910 and believe it would probably work.
01:34:53 <boily> well, as they say, all is well that a bird in the bush is worth two times three is forty-two.
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02:08:27 <HackEgo> cazador: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
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03:06:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Braille]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40234&oldid=40233 * Oerjan * (+2) reorganize external resources, cat
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16:27:41 <oerjan> cool, the word "barge" apparently comes from ancient egyptian
16:29:28 <Bike> wouldn't touch that etymology with a ten foot pole
16:30:04 <int-e> how about a 10'2" mapole?
16:34:12 <fizzie> Assemblyhelloes this day too.
16:34:35 <int-e> darn. I should have written "/me barges in with a 10'2" mapole". too late...
16:36:52 <oerjan> fizzie: your previous comment seemed a bit hard to put in context. any context.
16:38:30 <oerjan> shouldn't that be something more like hlo day, 2
16:40:20 <fizzie> http://www.assembly.org/summer14/
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16:41:53 <nooodl> are you going to make a demo
16:41:54 <oerjan> i thought that was Camelot.
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16:52:10 <fizzie> I am just socializing.
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17:00:56 <fizzie> I always think I should do something right after this thing, but forget it before next year.
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17:09:22 <fizzie> Good-quality 1k, anyway.
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21:57:58 <Sgeo> Is Perl 6 actually considered a failure?
21:58:04 <Sgeo> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6 claims so
22:03:09 <Melvar> Sgeo: I presume not by the people still working on it.
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22:13:12 <vifino> Sgeo: "Perl 6", link sais "php6"
22:14:57 <Bike> "Version 6 is generally associated with failure in the world of dynamic languages. PHP 6 was a failure; Perl 6 was a failure. It's actually associated with failure also outside the dynamic language world - MySQL 6 also existed but never released. The perception of version 6 as a failure - not as a superstition but as a real world fact (similar to the association of the word 'Vista' with failure) - will reflect badly on this PHP version."
22:14:58 <Melvar> vifino: It’s arguing they should skip version 6 / call it PHP7 because 6 is associated with failure, citing Perl6 among others.
22:15:03 <Bike> is this a joke.
22:15:05 <Bike> am i being joked
22:15:22 <Bike> a real world fact
22:15:38 <Bike> can't release the new php version yet i'm going to kill this goat and observe its entrails
22:15:48 <Bike> php6 will fail and it will rain tomorrow
22:16:20 <Melvar> Bike: It’s an argument about people’s associations, not about superstition, the way I read it.
22:17:21 <Bike> php is so ridiculously terrible constantly and i'm a fuckin professional matlab bullshitter
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22:18:39 <Sgeo> That page has better arguments against calling it PHP 6
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22:20:37 <Bike> ok but: that argument i quoted is incredible.
22:20:45 <boily> there is such a thing as PHP 6?
22:21:20 <Bike> and it is associated with failure
22:22:14 <Sgeo> Is IPv6 a failure?
22:22:40 <Sgeo> Maybe IPv4 should have been IPv5 so IPv6 gets skipped instead and we get IPv7
22:22:43 <boily> Bike: I expect more of PHP. I demand an extraordinary failure.
22:23:05 <Bike> Sgeo: uh dude ip isn't a dynamic language so its perception of failure isn't a real world fact.
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23:15:26 <oerjan> boily: why don't you program more in chicken it's illogical
23:19:47 <boily> chicken chicken, or chicken scheme?
23:20:36 <boily> also, why the diminutive magic wand?
23:21:13 <oerjan> just removing the space typo
23:21:49 <oerjan> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Chicken of course
23:31:44 <oerjan> fear is the mind killer
23:32:23 <olsner> the little death that obliterates all
23:34:10 <olsner> fwiw, the maker of chicken works at my office
23:35:43 <boily> terror intensifies.
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23:38:02 <olsner> boily: given your association to chickens, perhaps doubly so for you
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23:42:03 <olsner> I think metasepia is just wrong on that, there's lots of relevant info on fear
23:42:35 <oerjan> i think it just doesn't want to tell
23:43:05 <olsner> oerjan: p. good reason not to divulge, actually
23:43:27 <olsner> boily: stop sulking and do something useful
23:43:34 <oerjan> i think ~duck may be broken?
23:43:48 <boily> oerjan: looks like so.
23:44:09 * boily crosses his arms and pouts. “nah.”
23:44:18 <olsner> boily: my OS ran on real hardware and responded to ARP and ping today
23:45:06 <boily> the OS I'm using responds to ARP and ping, and can be ARP poisoned!
23:45:15 <boily> (nb.: I didn't write it.)
23:47:03 <olsner> to be fair, most of the code involved is from lwIP
23:47:31 <boily> I never managed to get that damned thing working.
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23:48:02 <olsner> lwip? it's pretty great for getting damned things working, I think
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23:49:43 <boily> if by some act of dark magic you manage to get lwip going, I guess everything else just follows.
23:51:14 <olsner> let's just say I'm well versed in the dark magics then
23:53:06 <olsner> (not that I am, it's just that lwip is actually quite easy to port)