< 1405728625 456610 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:8c9c:f030:b53d:b58e JOIN :#esoteric < 1405728840 388919 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1405730665 901381 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405730806 663280 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405730831 408826 :MoALTz__!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1405730968 297453 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1405731139 184707 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1405731231 721270 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloo < 1405731236 455521 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1405731353 956782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1405731359 747199 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:8c9c:f030:b53d:b58e NICK :^4 < 1405731393 229148 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola que hacen' < 1405731394 765340 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1405731440 244666 :shubshub!Pineapple@0.217.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1405731440 444735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :si < 1405731465 208763 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? que hacen? < 1405731478 89564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :si < 1405731479 387256 :shubshub!Pineapple@0.217.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Client Quit < 1405731492 664914 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porque dices si? < 1405731540 589493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mi aerodeslizador es lleno de anguilas < 1405731564 591464 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-Xque es esoooo????>:o < 1405731603 860631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No sé lo que estoy haciendo. Yo ni siquiera sé español < 1405731646 597463 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ok jajajaja < 1405731686 149764 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bueno que importa jajaja, pero como estas escribiendo español si no sabes ?=-O < 1405731740 319815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/ < 1405731774 309788 :prator!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr JOIN :#esoteric < 1405731784 324245 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amm ok < 1405731794 225122 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pero quisieras hablar español conmigo?? < 1405731805 190868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1405731885 590282 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :osea que no puedo estar en este grupo? :'( < 1405731961 150759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Es posible, pero la mayoría de nosotros va a no entender si usted no habla Inglés. < 1405731969 117293 :brrr!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1405732053 261884 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pero no pueden usar traductor? < 1405732093 537292 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :es que todos los grupos estan en ingles :-/ < 1405732197 957453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Es difícil hacerlo, porque tenemos que copiar y pegar todo en el traductor de google y viceversa. < 1405732234 25947 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :de donde eres? < 1405732324 872734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estoy en Noruega. Otros de aquí son en su mayoría de América del Norte o Europa. < 1405732364 968751 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y los de europa hablan español :) < 1405732376 384796 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuantos años tienes? < 1405732425 168222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realmente no hablo español, estoy utilizando Google ahora. < 1405732442 96802 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pero sabes algo de español? < 1405732642 272782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :No mucho. También es muy tarde y yo debería ir a la cama. < 1405732677 460596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Buenas noches < 1405732734 105013 :Guest5662!~canaima@186.94.111.231 PART :#esoteric < 1405733013 72883 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1405733055 669722 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-52-20.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xorshammer.com/2011/07/09/a-logical-interpretation-of-some-bits-of-topology/ neat. < 1405733527 907160 :^4!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:8c9c:f030:b53d:b58e QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1405734340 761567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you seen http://paultaylor.eu/ASD/ < 1405734352 129706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear weed is legal where you are so maybe you can even understand it < 1405734368 777177 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-52-20.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only opened a store like last week, it's dumb < 1405734375 597464 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-52-20.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad was trying to sell t-shirts celebrating it < 1405734401 916546 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-52-20.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has a lot of italics. is it insane < 1405734438 850810 :prator!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr NICK :brrr < 1405734486 984976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brrr: are you cold < 1405734498 653235 :brrr!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1405734872 339332 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/9404065 < 1405734882 740575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah < 1405734919 525950 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corrected version: http://codepad.org/Dt2Kssap < 1405739324 124562 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1405739463 885389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A quiz predicts I am "84% Sitakaliist" (82 percentile). < 1405742735 375517 :^4!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:316b:4da7:7b80:3dbb JOIN :#esoteric < 1405742889 475727 :^4!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:316b:4da7:7b80:3dbb QUIT :Client Quit < 1405744273 630805 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1405746745 813367 :ds84182!ds84182@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-thseljbqivlmssok PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1405748185 776950 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1405748197 181750 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1405748448 305612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One commenter doesn't believe that arbitrary disjunctions of semi-decidable predicates is semidecidable. But, can't you run programs like: First run one step of the first program, and then run one step of the first two programs, and then run one step of the first three programs, and then run one step of the first four programs. < 1405748895 183430 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^4 < 1405749157 429651 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1405749764 776542 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://lpaste.net/107738 < 1405749940 432634 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1405750061 968495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I do not know what all of those things mean. < 1405750220 925090 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, when you say arbitrary disjunctions, do you mean more than binary disjunctions? < 1405750235 735528 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just proved the binary case there, not sure if it works for infinite ones < 1405750280 732097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The part "[doesn't] believe that arbitrary disjunctions of semi-decidable predicates is semidecidable" is a quotation. < 1405750794 236392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it isn't me who meant something by it. < 1405751783 20893 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1405751836 686087 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405753835 889039 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405753890 386713 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fksotgedaxxicogx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1405753992 685408 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1405754544 151117 :brrr!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr QUIT :Quit: Cya! < 1405755238 196524 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1405756080 194265 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1405756081 2352 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1405756788 197989 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1405757454 160602 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1405759291 742484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hion < 1405759317 190199 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1405759666 513103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hachaf < 1405759708 697652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sitakaliist are you < 1405759740 871481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do "puhu" and "puhun" mean < 1405760114 56022 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1405760223 926115 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1405760278 165600 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“puhu” is a command to talk, “puhun” is “I talk” or “I am talking”. < 1405760286 250953 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhua is the basic form. < 1405760291 646694 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“to talk” < 1405760300 384565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about "en puhu" < 1405760317 582924 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“I don’t talk” or “I won’t talk” < 1405760331 697866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does the “I” come from < 1405760389 277964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that one isn't very hard < 1405760394 911855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the way "en" is inflected. < 1405760398 987212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The -n inflection < 1405760404 357410 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In both cases < 1405760413 869757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "en" a form of "ea" < 1405760417 795043 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ei < 1405760432 462818 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no/not) < 1405760443 865158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just special < 1405760500 658281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :en puhu, et puhu, ei puhu; emme puhu, ette puhu, eivät puhu: (I) don't speak, (you, singular) don't speak, (he/she/it) doesn't speak; (we) don't speak, (you, plural) don't speak; (they) don't speak. < 1405760532 809021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or puhun, puhut, puhuu; puhumme, puhutte, puhuvat for the non-negated version. < 1405760546 345039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can SEE the PATTERNS. < 1405760559 868429 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT’S FULL OF INFLECTIONS < 1405760567 952209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eivät? < 1405760579 61620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but puhuvat? < 1405760621 614271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vowel harmony something? < 1405760622 168825 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ua is easier to say than uä, iä is kind of easier than ia < 1405760638 626011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds better. Usually it's from vowel harmony, but "ei" technically doesn't need it. < 1405760664 73691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The groups are [aou] and [äöy], with [ei] being somewhat neutral. < 1405760698 745800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But e.g. puhuvat (they speak) vs. hyppivät (they leap). < 1405760719 537359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :u-a and y-ä. < 1405760738 201810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps more "jump" than "leap". Anyway. < 1405760741 986881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. complicated < 1405760757 333220 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyppi- is similar to the swedish word for jump (hoppa) < 1405760767 357235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good way to answer these sorts of questions without bugging people on irc < 1405760871 346732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a net, come to Finland, catch a native Finnish speaker and keep it in your basement. < 1405760879 306769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just remember to give it some water and food. < 1405760890 368923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lack a basement < 1405760909 986462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then perhaps some sort of a cage, I don't know. < 1405760920 340150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a good plan < 1405760943 766921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what size of cage should you get for a finn? what do they eat? < 1405760980 75016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_cuisine < 1405760995 499278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The famous Finnish cuisine. < 1405761011 29930 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1405761047 523840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose most people really think about which vowels there are and so on, since the right choice is almost always the one that "sounds right". < 1405761051 320576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have several finnish cuisines < 1405761072 187281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even more second cuisines < 1405761234 85766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wrote y as � the vowel groups would be even more regular < 1405761343 495748 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the best of my knowledge, the thing in Finnish is considered vowel harmony. < 1405761582 237054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hm are you volunteering < 1405761611 385831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that not how nets work < 1405761808 257098 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1405761809 852384 :TieSoul_!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405762169 326339 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405763593 790749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how about "olet" vs. "olette" < 1405763596 950435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it "olet te" < 1405763681 650221 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :second person plural of some verb? < 1405763720 729147 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first vs second person < 1405763745 748955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, wrong again, I meant singular/plural < 1405764275 440331 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1405764357 6684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What olsner says. < 1405764376 775256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you (singular) are" vs. "you (plural) are". < 1405764442 985773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinä olet shachaf < 1405764445 340987 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :te olette #esoteric < 1405764473 889211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1405764493 246982 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :malagassy has two "we", one with the person you talk to and one without < 1405764495 551206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the personal pronouns (sinä, te) completely optional. < 1405764504 678531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "te" can also be a formal/polite version of "sinä"? < 1405764519 12034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. ("Teitittely".) < 1405764549 224169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a decline, I'd say. < 1405764563 574865 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Practically everything south-east Asian does. < 1405764653 962114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oletteko #esoteric? < 1405764709 365437 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1405764758 838068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhutteko suomea? < 1405764765 33024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew has some of this pronoun-dropping thing < 1405764770 472442 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did English have teitittely when thou/ye were distinct? < 1405764798 211533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1405766869 26027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1405767239 538400 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1405767572 158091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord � < 1405767572 336098 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :239 191 189 < 1405767591 209322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord � < 1405767591 387273 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :239 191 189 < 1405767625 128887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: your unicode is showing up as replacement character hth < 1405767639 311766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the logs, at least < 1405767762 561205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is the second time i've noticed this, except i'm not sure it was olsner the other time. < 1405767769 243948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whichnicode < 1405767782 249144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you wrote y as � the vowel groups would be even more regular < 1405767795 420362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:13 if you wrote y as ü the vowel groups would be even more regular < 1405767807 168234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh interesting. < 1405767821 69897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it has to do with that weird irc encoding < 1405767825 751307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it shows up wrong in both codu and tunes. < 1405767845 645474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which uses iso-8859-1 if everything in a line can be encoded that way < 1405767848 407723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and otherwise uses utf-8 < 1405767871 957114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think xchat does that by default? < 1405767875 742002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently olsner's irc client is gnu sed < 1405767885 510435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think so, but manually changing the encoding of the log page did not help < 1405767906 458179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1405767912 301663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check tunes for that < 1405767937 218818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh tunes has it "right" < 1405767956 424044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fix your irc client hth < 1405767959 917816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so codu has started replacing iso-8859-1 with unicode replacement characters. < 1405768064 923820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like we're in the gregorcalypse < 1405768097 794580 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: any day now < 1405768232 661479 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1405768234 737605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the raw codu log also keeps the ü < 1405768246 344506 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1405768270 585558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's always been like this but i've only noticed since i started using the nicely formatted log version < 1405768321 402043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, both .txt and -raw.txt have the ü < 1405768359 835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this ü work better? < 1405768389 354247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1405768535 122332 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1405769438 313141 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1405769573 629825 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1405769916 281372 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1405771288 176889 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/2b3tyx/computing_with_graphs/ < 1405771392 677703 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1405771509 149522 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1405772784 528991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that, like, eodermdrome? < 1405773075 213660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I'm not familiar with Eodermdrome < 1405773621 779435 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1405774604 315687 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1405778340 326120 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1405778379 419691 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405779197 489457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1405779202 11993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1405779210 558710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everything back online yet < 1405779270 476677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as such, no. < 1405779281 246428 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1405779288 597159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean a plain no. < 1405779324 510477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would help to get some sort of sign of life out of Gregor "idle for 5 days" Gregor. < 1405779344 641214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how many bitcoins would it take for you to put that XML dump on a read-only mediawiki install and point esolangs.org at it? < 1405779373 229133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. actual payment unlikely < 1405779463 822684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might do it for free tomorrow. < 1405779493 31673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I have a full mirror from April, I could use that.) < 1405779509 396960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some odd time discounting. < 1405779519 196770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, the XML dumps are actually rather complete < 1405779527 697103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have all pages and files and revisions < 1405779548 939022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much all you need on top of that is things like users and bans < 1405779554 15623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it tracks protection or not < 1405779593 207329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess, but I don't know how to use them. But perhaps I could get the mirror-installation up and running, and then import the dump on top of that. If that is a thing that's done. < 1405779631 507129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :his last name is richards iirc < 1405779657 214273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, GregorR = Gregor gRegor < 1405779665 667660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you just set up MW and then upload it to Special:Import through a browser < 1405779676 251028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Gregor = Gregor Gregor < 1405779680 239497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor of Erebor. < 1405779725 641113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy MW, use the command-line installer thing, copy whatever backup of LocalSettings you have, put $wgReadOnly in there, import the pages, run the cache generation script (optional), done < 1405779738 357182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can import on top of a mirror, maybe < 1405779748 547935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to clear out the pages/files tables first < 1405779765 597308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of think having it be editable would be bad though, since all the edits would get lost whenever 'Regor wakes up. < 1405779799 16488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. I'll attempt this tomorrow, or later today if I feel especially vigorous. < 1405779884 697424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought: you could distribute PGP-encrypted daily database dumps so you can restore users etc. without any privacy risk in future :) < 1405779893 300852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how big they'd be compressed, though < 1405780085 277117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1405780457 66433 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1405780507 74159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1405780813 688790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you have been followed up hth http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/ < 1405780840 97462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad he'll never know < 1405780935 647890 :^4!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :troll_detector < 1405780966 198124 :troll_detector!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1405781159 879145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mezzacotta still updates? < 1405781281 957997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1405781305 557194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're actually only a month away from when the garfield [something that sounds like minus] garfield apocalypse would have been < 1405781374 128993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. < 1405781380 625186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I've... forgotten what this is about < 1405781414 761298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the people in the forum are planning a special for sromg 1978(?)-2014 < 1405781459 33814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically, have each comic be based on the anniversary garfield comic from that year) < 1405781467 877131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well they had a ton of strips on that formula until dmm put a stop to it by riffing on terminator 2 < 1405781480 307826 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sromg? SCSI Read-only Oh My God? < 1405781491 501719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :square root of minus garfield < 1405781570 257673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrotum renovation: only massive genitalia < 1405781594 204434 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for once, I am more scared of elliott than oerjan. today is going to be an interesting day... < 1405781619 913949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw c'mon. I'm plenty scary! < 1405781633 189650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's p. scary though < 1405781635 799982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's norwegian < 1405781649 521874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're from the fucking south < 1405781656 106681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, sromg is going around nicely, dmm has a huge backlog of submissions which is growing. < 1405781694 952721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mezzacotta itself is of course autogenerated, and as bad as ever. < 1405781708 362229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightning made of owls is barely hanging on. < 1405781735 287869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :awkward fumbles was essentially dead, but has had a couple recently. < 1405781788 846408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=625 < 1405781798 757288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the one-trick pony markov comic the flagship of mezzacotta seems shortsighted in retrospect < 1405781800 350875 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1405781813 241103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at the titles in the archive before that day, you can see how bad the meme had got < 1405781822 1651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I do remember this. < 1405781911 324218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that strip is a masterpiece < 1405782445 170076 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: POLYCHORON CHICKEN < 1405782475 294779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i calculate sromg 1928 will be on the prophesized date < 1405782495 443447 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1405782529 394363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume dmm has long since queued comics beyond that. < 1405782583 680772 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1405782629 684027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure whether to correct the misspelling or revel in it. < 1405783057 369582 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1405783554 348447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fleeing the noise again < 1405783917 17402 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Quit: goodbye, cruel server < 1405784170 500791 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1405784863 793647 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1405786789 67766 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1405786965 424727 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1405787253 922120 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-88-61.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1405787635 969595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What meme? < 1405787793 196493 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmhdrfxhglppnkgv JOIN :#esoteric < 1405788106 210551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variations on the "The world is constantly changing" Garfield strip. < 1405788197 688320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=603 seems to be a particularly unfunny one to me < 1405790109 789726 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the most unfunny comic strip ever? < 1405790560 93105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :very likely garfield < 1405790614 957284 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-52-20.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br0FAXbIQAAyIjg.jpg:large now, now, there are many other contenders < 1405790755 979179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you store raw logs as actual raw data instead of converting? Sometimes (but rarely) it is posting something which is neither ISO-8859-1 nor UTF-8. Someone once posted something using Russian encoding. < 1405793467 723060 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1405793862 881471 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1405793888 51668 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1405794740 522712 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :minirtti < 1405794754 794327 :minirtti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1405796931 815566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, wikipedia's page on CTCP is so incomplete < 1405797118 844398 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you sure that the raw logs (on codu) are decoded in any way? they look pretty raw to me, with some prefix added on each line. < 1405797279 890559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are filtered per channel < 1405797598 781250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't know but it is something someone mentioned above. < 1405797622 327157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, although I think also ones that aren't filtered by channel are also available, it look like. < 1405797638 179017 :brrr!~brrr@trivialand/emeritus/brrr JOIN :#esoteric < 1405797701 274869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby, you see something using .each and want your own objects to implement it, it's 'obvious' that you just define each for your own class. Python, you see for ... in ... and want to write your own that supports it, you need to check the documentation to see that you need to define __iter__ < 1405798103 295026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we really gotten to this point, Sgeo < 1405798117 562729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby vs. python, which one is more obvious < 1405799454 111480 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1405799479 649037 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1405800819 94810 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1405800834 502435 :ilmyrn!~ilmyrn@host86-143-141-20.range86-143.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1405800874 979398 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1405800946 539849 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a42986.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1405800958 910331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1405801303 552970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running importDump.php now. < 1405801330 225753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to give the --report option, no idea how long it'll take. < 1405801454 740878 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1405801474 456973 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1405801622 969763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, based on a "select count(*) from revision;" in another terminal, it's importing at a blinding speed of 1 revision/second. < 1405801661 965861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dump has 32535 revisions in it. < 1405801681 133393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'll be ready in just nine short hours. < 1405801697 784603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What date is this dump from? < 1405801795 197155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very new, it's from April 21st. But it's only for a temporary read-only copy so that people have something to look at, while we're waiting to get the real one back up. (And only after that think about maybe moving it.) < 1405801805 54728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1405801808 565464 :ilmyrn!~ilmyrn@host86-143-141-20.range86-143.btcentralplus.com PART :#esoteric < 1405801853 691497 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :uberasic < 1405801856 994881 :uberasic!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1405801884 210015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the XML dump is from the last day the server was up, btw < 1405801943 771398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean that is somewhere? < 1405802042 60546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I haven't downloaded it, but if someone has, I could restore from that instead. < 1405803158 891037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a nine-bit value and want to convert so that the high four bits (one of which is in a separate register) are converted into the value that bit7 copies bit3, what is the fastest way to do that in a 6502 code without using up too much ROM/RAM space? < 1405803536 701106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I have the following twenty cycle code: LDX fizzie: http://eso.mroman.ch/log2.txt http://eso.mroman.ch/wikidump/ < 1405804253 840339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, did you also expect me to pay attention? < 1405804255 469474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's... gone?? < 1405804259 461003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I downloaded it but deleted it < 1405804261 78616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman? < 1405804296 231122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, the thing has restored 25 pages, at a speed of 0.01 pages/sec, 1.24 revs/sec. < 1405804329 314451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does this work? LDA Why don't you store raw logs as actual raw data instead of converting? Sometimes (but rarely) it is posting something which is neither ISO-8859-1 nor UTF-8. Someone once posted something using Russian encoding. <-- they are, but the formatted version *usually* looks better to me, but it has this problem. < 1405811520 897484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they should fix it so that when converting raw to formatted, it will correct it! < 1405811552 681591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This should probably be done both for formatted plaintext and for HTML.) < 1405811599 417170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the formatted plaintext doesn't do any conversion. < 1405811613 105814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can change encoding in the browser for that. < 1405811687 962091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has the problem with lines not wrapping in my browser, which is usually more irritating. < 1405811722 960429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we're currently waiting for a chance to get Gregor to fix _anything_. < 1405811741 910794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 days idle, now. < 1405811754 193716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least he has a stable irc connection. < 1405812041 172301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1939 (0.20 pages/sec 2.47 revs/sec) < 1405812052 549511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps tomorrow we shall have a read-only wiki. < 1405812323 124612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: great! then people will pester you to fix stuff in it by directly messing with the database, because normal edit won't yet work < 1405812447 693771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that will not be a big problem. < 1405812501 122302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can discuss edits in the IRC, and since it is logged, then if any such edits do need to be made they can be made afterward. < 1405812697 962981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an esolang yet whose goal is to make it easier to write programs that edit the esolang wiki entry for that same language? < 1405812734 645242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly one that's restricted so editing that wiki entry is, in some way, the only thing programs in that language can do? < 1405812857 708321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone tried the K framework? < 1405812862 695319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might start watching the tutorials < 1405812887 457255 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( with Vect sequence [[1,2],[3,4]] < 1405812888 11505 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04[04104, 04304]04, 04[04204, 04404]04] : 12Vect 042 (12Vect 042 12Integer) < 1405813539 49545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff weather forecast going ballistic again < 1405813607 471103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found that Infocom's Z-machine interpreter for Commodore 64 takes 30 cycles to read one byte from the PC; my own interpreter for Famicom takes only 19 cycles. This is what time it usually takes; it can be longer. < 1405813735 72246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My program is 25 cycles in worse case; their program is over 70 cycles in worse case. < 1405814245 789566 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how does input work < 1405814256 684432 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing zork on a nes controller sounds painful < 1405814275 161864 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: It is using the keyboard. < 1405814295 687012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right! that's a thing < 1405814299 328883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Famicom does have a keyboard, although it is not hardwired like the gamepads are.