00:07:39 zzo38: yes, the introdution looks good. reading between the lines, I can see that you want something human editable rather than just a data exchange format for programs, which explains the flexibility in the syntax 00:08:38 -!- ter2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:18:28 How well do you think it is compared to other formats and stuff? What one you use can depend on the application, but I would like to know other people's opinions on these comparison between formats too 00:24:24 of the standard ones I tend to like JSON best but it's inconvenient for embedding binary data (since, as you write, it's tied to Unicode) I agrree that the standard text representation of XML is too verbose, and that binary formats will not be human readable nor editable. 00:26:06 -!- aretecode has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:26:13 Oh and references are a nice touch (I've seen such before in lpmud save files, hmm :) ). I'm less convinced that macros should be part of the data format. 00:27:57 (I'd be worried about somebody writing F(x) = [x;x] and then F(F(...F(42)...)) and crash my program.) 00:28:38 but of course references have the same potential, if one isn't careful 00:29:25 Adding limits can avoid the F(F(...F(42)...)) problem. This is what SQLite does. 00:29:45 is this right? [A.[A.[A.42,A],A],A] 00:29:53 err, , -> ; 00:30:47 int-e: Yes, it is valid, although may be ambiguous depending on the application. 00:30:49 Or do I need 3 names for that? 00:31:08 Actually perhaps I should just specify you need 3 names for that. 00:31:12 It wasn't previously clear. 00:31:25 Needing 3 names is probably clearer and simpler and more sensible. 00:31:54 Note that references are their own datatype, not the type of whatever it is referencing. 00:31:55 Oh. What about [A.[A]]? 00:32:04 Yes, that is valid. 00:32:25 (why is this restricted to list items?) 00:32:26 It is a list containing a list containing a reference to the first item of the first list. 00:33:21 It is restricted to list items because of what references are and are not. They do not represent a copy of the data. 00:34:05 it precludes {A=ref.[1;2;3];B=ref} 00:34:53 That wouldn't make sense though. If you want to use the list [1;2;3] in several places, you should want a macro, not a reference. 00:34:53 which seems sensible. (whereas A.[A] is a bit silly) 00:35:07 zzo38: but then it would be duplicated 00:36:21 References represent a pointer to the data, and are certainly not interchangeable with the data themself! 00:36:27 It just seems strange to forbid that but allow [ref.[1,2,3],{A=ref,B=ref}] 00:36:52 zzo38: yes. I want A and B to point to the same list. 00:37:00 Perhaps it does seem strange to you, but to me it doesn't 00:37:03 not to two equal lists. 00:37:15 int-e: wouldn't that make A the actual list [1;2;3] but B only a reference to it? 00:37:16 int-e: Well, references point to a position in a list. 00:37:18 so it's not quite what you want 00:37:30 elliott: Correct. 00:37:54 you'd need, like, &ref.[1;2;3] 00:38:06 -!- ter2 has joined. 00:38:28 Oh. [ref.[1;2;3];ref] and [ref,ref.[1;2;3]] are not the same? 00:38:42 (sorry, I still write , for ;) 00:38:52 That is correct they are not the same at all. 00:39:02 ok. that is strange to me. 00:39:03 hence Note that references are their own datatype, not the type of whatever it is referencing. 00:39:34 but fine. 00:39:48 int-e: presumably foo.x is like ({ foo = &x; *foo }) for some imagined foo, so to speak, and foo is like... well, foo 00:39:57 or whatever. 00:40:09 (then the lpmud reference (sic!) was invalid though, since that encoded actual sharing.) 00:40:47 or encodes ... I know for a fact that a couple of those things are still running 00:47:52 -!- boily has quit (Quit: UNKNOWABLE CHICKEN). 00:48:24 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:48:48 aaargh. I've been wondering for a week now why somebody would calle a function "runit" ... I read it as 'r-unit'... 00:59:01 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 01:00:43 -!- monotone has quit (Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid."). 01:01:02 -!- monotone has joined. 01:03:06 heh. I found this comment in lambdabot: | not classFound -- can't trust those dodgy folk in #haskell 01:03:30 @instances Dodgy 01:03:30 Couldn't find class `Dodgy'. Try @instances-importing 01:13:23 -!- mhi^ has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 01:14:41 why would you nit a ru 01:15:30 @instances-importing Extremely.Unsafe Dodgy 01:15:31 Couldn't find class `Dodgy'. Try @instances-importing 01:30:25 -!- blitter64 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:52:23 -!- blitter64 has joined. 02:06:28 !ping 02:06:34 Pong! 02:08:23 -!- blitter64 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:30:13 -!- BeingToDeath has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:31:33 -!- Sorella has quit (Quit: sleeeep). 02:45:09 -!- MoALTz has joined. 02:45:41 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:51:27 -!- Tod-Autojoined has changed nick to TodPunk. 03:00:44 -!- MoALTz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:01:39 -!- MoALTz has joined. 03:51:19 -!- ter2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:53:03 -!- Vorpal has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net). 05:07:53 hi sgeo, how goes it? 05:08:10 Situation normal 05:15:52 Sometimes I think I'm the sort of person who recognizes his mistakes, and then proceeds to do nothing about them.... how do I fix that mistake? 05:16:40 read a book 05:17:49 You did something (although not much) about that mistake, which is, to ask a question about it. That isn't doing much, of course! 05:29:10 O no, maybe ZCDSF is not LALR(1). I am trying to use it with the Lemon parser generator and get errors, which I think is because it has to look ahead a lot in order to figure out the difference of a macro invocation than a macro definition. 05:35:06 Perhaps it can be resolved in the tokenizer? 05:43:06 Rust has this property that you can parse the source into a "token tree" before expanding macros 05:43:09 that turns out to be very useful 05:45:14 tt ::= '(' tt ')' | '{' tt '}' | '[' tt ']' | token tt | '' 05:45:16 approximately 05:46:17 macro expansion is sort of ugly though; there's an AST node type for each place a macro invocation can appear (ExprMac, PatMac, etc.) and these are expanded at some point 05:46:40 Have macros changed since the last release, or from last release and release before then? 05:46:40 and then all the code which runs after that point has like ExprMac(_) => tcx.sess.bug("unexpanded macro") 05:46:47 I'm figuring maybe I should look at a stable macro system 05:46:47 Sgeo: I don't pay attention to releases 05:46:56 How much is it changing? 05:47:06 as far as I'm concerned there are two versions of Rust: master, and whichever one Servo is using 05:47:11 rust seems like a bad place to look for stability 05:47:13 and the one Servo is using is almost never a release 05:47:19 the macro system isn't changing that much, though 05:47:27 I just added the ability to expand macros in pattern position 05:47:37 ooh 05:47:57 and the mechanisms for "procedural macros", i.e. running arbitrary Rust code at compile time to produce an AST, are changing some 05:48:06 and those are more exposed to other changes to compiler internals, of course 05:48:16 but the plain Macros By Example macros haven't changed too much since I started using the language almost a year ago 05:50:30 here is the graph of how far behind Rust master Servo has been over time: http://people.mozilla.org/~mbrubeck/servo-rust-updates.svg 05:51:58 i like how when you do update it's not usually to master 05:52:42 yeah because in the time between starting an update and finishing it, master will have moved forward 05:53:03 by 10 days? hee. 05:54:10 yes, it can easily take 10 days to update several 100k LoC for a month or two of language changes 05:54:21 and test it on all platforms and rebase it against the other changes happening in Servo etc. 05:54:44 Mozilla has this "badges" thing (idk really) and you may be amused by the image for the relevant one: https://badges.mozilla.org/en-US/badges/badge/Servo-Rust-upgrade 05:54:50 what platforms is servo targeting btw 05:55:06 oh that's pretty good. 05:55:08 right now, x86-64 Linux, x86-64 OS X, and ARM Android kinda 05:55:21 firefox tells me its connection to mozilla.org is insufficiently secure. 05:55:22 Kinda? 05:55:27 lolol 05:55:39 Bike: the Android testing is not very automated, so it tends to regress a lot 05:55:44 This site does not supply identity information... who could they be....... 05:55:50 I think currently we can't run JavaScript on Android. 05:55:55 in fact people are puzzled as to how we were ever able to 05:55:58 * kmc -> afk -> ice cream 05:56:57 good choice 06:03:01 -!- password2 has joined. 06:04:33 http://doc.x3dom.org/developer/x3dom/runtime/index.html 06:04:41 * Sgeo hits his head on a convenient wall 06:05:46 a very nice and clean bar 06:18:21 [TAS] GC Crazy Taxi by solarplex in 05:53.18: http://youtu.be/O2wnNYmpABg 06:22:18 every channel I'm in becomes #rust 06:22:24 I'm vaguely aware that this can be annoying 06:23:07 lol 06:23:57 mmm ice cream 06:30:21 you got that right 06:30:51 Should I try to learn raw WebGL or some convenient library like Three.JS? Or both? 06:34:31 -!- shikhin has joined. 06:34:39 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:37:52 what do you want to make? 06:38:22 Raw webgl is kinda annoying compared to shiny things like ThreeJS 06:38:34 so if you don't need it, use the abstractions 06:39:06 OpenGL is pretty low level and WebGL / GLES remove more of the stuff you'd want for using OpenGL "by hand" 06:40:10 If only we'd had WebDirectX.... 06:41:20 Well, it could be interesting to learn how the low level stuff works 06:41:35 And use the abstractions for anything interesting 06:42:13 mcpherrin: just write an activex plugin 06:43:20 Programming first 'clicked' in my mind when reading about ActiveX 06:45:33 what about it? 06:47:04 I think... just the concept of the computer being entirely controlled by code 06:47:08 I'm not sure. I was a kid 06:48:32 cool 06:58:08 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 07:05:02 ah a classic "Users like this are like a mongoose backed into a corner: with its back to the wall and seeing certain death staring it in the face, it attacks frantically, because doing something has to be better than doing nothing. This is not well adapted to the type of problems computers produce." 07:05:31 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html 07:22:50 I have always loved metaballs 07:23:26 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 07:25:59 what about meatballs? 07:26:04 fungot: I found a food truck selling "fonduewurst" 07:26:05 kmc: http://tinyurl.com/ fnord is a confusing little bit of code i've had to be crashed to the ground to touch your nose. 07:27:59 kmc: they're awesome to look at 07:28:07 Oh, you changed the word 07:29:24 -!- Tritonio has joined. 07:33:53 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 07:41:17 -!- slereah has joined. 07:41:22 Hello, I would like to magic 07:41:29 Can you teach me the secret arts 07:42:04 `` WeLcOmE slereah | rainwords 07:42:06 SlErEaH: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: . (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) 07:42:30 Nice spell~ 07:43:47 I do not think we are a school for any secret arts. (If we were, it wouldn't be much secret, isn't it?) 07:44:26 Then why do you have the HackEgo golem 07:45:06 To write strange messages like that. 07:45:46 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 07:45:49 HackEgo, kill all humans 07:46:16 slereah: you cannot command it without the secret art of syntagma 07:46:48 ``help 07:46:48 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `help: not found 07:46:51 Aw 07:49:41 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Munus sigsigga ag bara ye). 07:53:15 -!- pikhq has joined. 07:56:29 I have an exam in like 4 hours 07:56:33 Time to clean my room 07:58:44 `coins 07:58:45 crtcoin bracoin quycoin kellosophiloxicoin blindex.phpcoin bitbitzcoin killcoin neurcoin abccoin prestowcoin swellicoin thumseycoin aheltscoin rnatacoin rolcoin um-32coin ootcoin evilleravillcoin unlolanptcoin byacoin 08:02:41 bitbitzcoin 08:21:52 crtcoin uses old, broken CRT monitors as physical coins. 08:22:12 Must be a big coinpurse 08:25:33 I helped my friend haul a 100 kg Trinitron flat-tube CRT television the other day 08:25:51 flat tubes weigh even more than usual tubes 08:27:03 Is there a connection between Trinitron brand aperture grilles and trinitrotoluene? 08:28:22 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:28:54 i hope not 08:28:57 for my friend's sake 08:30:16 it's probably trinity+tron ... trinity because of the three colors in RGB? perhaps 08:30:52 My bookshelf is getting increasingly full :D 08:31:20 olsner: It's kind of silly, since what it improved on also had three colors and elec-tron beams. 08:32:09 apparently trinity is because they merged the three beams into one beam 08:32:33 Oh, I guess that makes sense. 08:32:41 For some values of sense, anyway. 08:32:45 The Holy Trinitron. 08:35:49 (Except I guess it doesn't have holes?) 08:36:16 [wiki] [[Talk:Rail]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39735&oldid=39722 * 84.174.111.48 * (+41) 08:36:33 ...is a bookshelf the right place for a book of stamps? 08:36:42 "the Erlenmeyer flask was invented by Dr Julius Flask" 08:36:42 i like to put them in the box of envelopes 08:36:43 heheheh 08:37:23 slereah: what 08:37:30 Right, my book of stamps is now on my bookshelf 08:38:03 myname : it is 08:38:05 amusing 08:38:49 where is it from? 08:39:11 It was from Uncyclopedia apparently but got deleted 08:39:17 ah 08:40:02 rustc has a flag that prints out the elapsed time for each compiler pass as they run (some 40 or so of them) 08:40:12 this makes long compile times feel a lot less frustrating 08:40:25 stuff is happening! borrows are being checked and freevars are being found! 08:40:28 Does it have a flag that lets you play tetris while it's compiling? 08:40:34 fizzie: patches welcome 08:40:40 though that might require an RFC first 08:41:01 look through https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/master/0000-template.md 08:41:20 Why are we doing this? What use cases does it support? What is the expected outcome? Why should we *not* do this? What is the impact of not doing this? 08:41:36 Yes, those are the kind of questions I might have trouble with. 08:41:36 I've missed my chance this academic year to make lecture notes on a typewriter :( 08:41:56 fizzie: omg that's actually a hilarious idea 08:42:28 mcpherrin: how about a nice game of global thermonuclear war 08:42:38 kmc, I watched that film last night! :) 08:42:41 don't let the build succeed until you can clear a line 08:42:56 kmc: Another suggestion: if the real passes don't seem to be enough, you can add fake "reticulating splines" kind of ones. 08:43:26 Not last night, the other night 08:45:09 Taneb: :) 08:45:16 fizzie: yes, it reminds me very much of that kind of thing 08:45:25 Also Hackers, which is the most 90's film imaginable 08:45:43 Taneb: Hack the planet! 08:46:34 Taneb: http://www.avclub.com/article/ihackersi-may-have-been-of-its-time-but-it-was-als-72249 08:48:46 -!- Patashu has quit (Disconnected by services). 08:48:46 -!- Patashu_ has joined. 08:48:47 my current task involves converting a bunch of small functions to a different form 08:48:55 which is nicely incremental work, and not too challenging 08:49:00 which means I'll probably stay up all night doing it :/ 08:50:55 rust is far too boring with what it'll accept as function names 08:51:28 Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictograms at least is needed 08:52:33 fn (){} 08:52:35 kmc, good read, thanks 08:54:01 hooray 08:55:43 I love Hackers 08:55:43 mcpherrin: but you can do https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/0b1c57d021e1899611a7 at least 08:56:03 kmc: haha, true 09:01:16 hmm I should have a party where we get roller blades and 90s laptops and hack the gibson 09:01:21 yes 09:01:22 count me in 09:01:28 I even have rollerblades! 09:01:36 though I'm bad enough at using them sober... 09:01:50 I don't have them so :p 09:02:06 I ought to get some 09:02:40 Eugene Belford 09:04:18 "Rust input is interpreted as a sequence of Unicode codepoints encoded in UTF-8, normalized to Unicode normalization form NFKC" 09:04:21 I have discovered that this is lies! 09:04:31 python3 -c 'print("#![feature(non_ascii_idents)]\nfn sp\u00e4tzle() { }\nfn main() { spa\u0308tzle() }")' > foo.rs && rustc foo.rs 09:04:34 foo.rs:3:13: 3:21 error: unresolved name `spätzle`. 09:04:41 lies. 09:05:06 kmc: lol, not really that surprising 09:05:16 even in the future nothing works 09:05:36 kmc: it is a well-known lie unfortunately 09:05:43 fn ∯(){} is all I really want 09:05:54 `unidecode ∯ 09:05:55 [U+222F SURFACE INTEGRAL] 09:05:59 spätzle is delicious btw 09:06:00 OH WELL 09:06:14 or ∃ is a great one for collections 09:06:18 mcpherrin: have you been to http://walzwerk.com/ ? "authentic and unique East German cuisine in the San Francisco Mission district" 09:06:30 kmc: nope! should I ? 09:06:33 yes 09:06:39 tbh I haven't eaten many places in SF 09:06:56 I am told that the German culinary divide is more north/south, and "East German cuisine" is more about decor and such 09:06:57 Me neither 09:06:59 in the year I've been here, probably only a few, and half of them are burritos 09:06:59 but still, tasty 09:07:28 so my previous city was very german 09:07:32 and I do miss the german food 09:07:42 you should eat there and then watch Good Bye Lenin! 09:07:51 (Kitchener was until some nastiness earlier this centry named Berlin) 09:08:10 or last century? 09:08:42 anyway I didn't know that 09:08:43 that's funny 09:08:53 there's a Madrid, Iowa but it's pronounced MA-drid 09:08:55 c.c 09:09:28 mcpherrin: I found a food truck in Portland that offers currywurst and "fonduewurst" 09:10:18 I have not been to a single Yorkshire-style restaurant, which probably don't exist 09:11:03 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 09:11:09 This is despite living in York 09:11:25 -!- drdanmaku has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:11:35 I think non-existence is a pretty good excuse, tbh 09:11:54 kmc: omg I miss currywurst 09:11:59 i neeeeds it 09:12:38 it's pretty easy to make at home 09:12:49 less so if you're picky about the finer points of the sauce 09:13:29 and I'm not :P 09:13:38 Rosamunde has it, at least the Mission location 09:13:56 and there's a "King of Cürrywurst" [sic] food truck 09:14:29 Misplaced dots, eh 09:15:44 http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03222004 http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03252004 09:15:47 kmc: my attempts to bootstrap a rust compiler that uses the YOLO keyword aren't going well :p 09:17:33 is gonna need a lot of #[cfg(stage0)] 09:17:45 why? as long as you don't use it in the compiler itself 09:25:05 kmc: 'cause I removed unsafe, haha 09:30:51 well there's yer problem 09:31:14 gotta sleep now, ttyl all 09:31:26 G'night, kmc 09:31:35 G'naneb 09:50:35 YOLO { *(0 as *u8) } 10:16:29 -!- boily has joined. 10:55:56 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 11:01:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:01:46 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:02:45 -!- atehwa has joined. 11:04:31 -!- pikhq has joined. 11:06:47 -!- Sorella has joined. 11:07:00 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 11:16:56 -!- edwardk has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 11:17:17 -!- edwardk has joined. 11:30:46 -!- yorick has joined. 11:32:58 -!- scoofy has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:46:06 -!- scoofy has joined. 12:02:09 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:19:54 -!- blitter64 has joined. 12:42:34 -!- blitter64 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:44:55 -!- M28 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:06:21 -!- M28 has joined. 13:25:33 Every part of my body is Turing complete 13:31:34 -!- Patashu_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 13:36:06 are DNA processes turing-complete? 13:37:26 Not sure 13:37:46 I don't know how you could make a loop with DNA 13:44:20 slereah: ask your kids 13:45:57 -!- spiette has joined. 13:47:00 You don't need kids for that 13:47:06 Cell division is enough 13:47:34 But how do you do conditions on that loop 13:51:54 "DNA processes"? 13:52:29 and it's easy to make a DNA loop! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmid lolol 13:53:19 Be careful with plasmids man 13:53:29 Last time I took some I had bees coming out of my hands 13:57:22 that sounds excruciatingly painful 13:58:00 http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/063/b/2/ttdi_bioshock_1__bees_by_anniezard-d3awuto.jpg 13:58:06 http://mimg.ugo.com/201002/36219/cuts/insect-swarm-3_480x360.png 13:58:08 Aaaah 13:58:10 So painful 14:05:59 There something called HDNA (H for Hofstadter). I think it's also know as typogenetics or something. 14:06:17 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:07:14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-stranded_DNA ? 14:07:16 Consecutive base pairs are interpreted and do various things like copy a base, cut a strand etc, loop, etc. It appears to be Turing complete. 14:07:19 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:07:34 hoogsteen is a ridiculous name, though 14:08:00 impomatic: yes it's described in GEB. i once considered writing a wiki article on it 14:08:32 but it's not real? 14:08:33 I think he wrote a bit about it in Goedel, Escher, Bach. I read about it in the January 1982 issue of Practical Computing which has a HDNA interpreter written in Basic. 14:08:49 i mean real DNA has plenty of stuff about alternative splicing, god knows 14:08:55 also pseudoknots which are pretty wack 14:08:58 But does it have a basic interpreter written in HDNA 14:09:13 Quintopia: it's definitely esoteric. You should add it to the wiki :-) 14:09:16 "so there's NP completeness, at least" 14:09:44 impomatic: oh it's not that it's not esoteric that i haven't done it. it's that i'm too lazy. 14:10:22 slereah: this is cute though: http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:Insect_swarm_plasmid_by_tinamin1-d4jh31s.jpg 14:10:51 The bee plasmid was pretty weak but I used it a lot 14:10:58 Because it's fucking BEES FROM MY HANDS 14:11:17 That is enough to make a whole game out of 14:11:33 oh and Turing wrote a nice paper about symmetry breaking in devbio, imo read it. 14:12:08 Another one which ought to be on the wiki. The language of Tierra. (I don't mind doing this one, I just need to research it a bit more. I haven't seem Ray naming it anywhere) 14:13:28 is tierra the one that's just code in a large block of memory with program pointers passing over it repeatedly 14:13:46 or is the one with actual moving organisms in 3d space 14:14:04 It's all in code, no actual organisms. 14:15:27 yeah i saw something about the language used in that once. no jumps, right? just reading and writing to addresses 14:18:39 It jumps to a template... 14:19:08 i guess i don't remember it too well 14:19:11 No operands to instructions. You'd have jmpb / nop1 / nop0 / nop1 / something else. 14:19:48 That would jump back to the first template matching the complement of the three nops. 14:22:19 ah. so you can jump, but you can't be sure where you're jumping 14:36:43 Only if the matching templates is in your own code. Otherwise you might jump into another program and run it's code (like a parasite) 14:39:20 -!- mihow has joined. 14:43:34 -!- jix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:44:03 -!- jix has joined. 14:45:10 -!- edwardk has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 14:56:35 -!- Gregor`` has changed nick to Gregor. 15:14:36 Help I need to sort out my life 15:15:44 Like, urgently 15:16:05 Had a room inspection and the result was "We are worried about your health" 15:25:52 -!- nooodl has joined. 15:30:55 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:36:11 -!- ter2 has joined. 15:46:26 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:49:21 -!- drdanmaku has joined. 15:51:05 Taneb: why exactly? Assuming it's messy, just hire a cleaner (or find a girlfriend who's clean / tidy). Assuming it's full of alcohol etc just print off some healthy looking labels to disguise it. 15:51:38 impomatic, evidently there's an oppressive smell 15:53:08 that's... extreme 16:01:19 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 16:06:14 -!- slereah has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:06:29 Anyway, you can imagine my emotional state right now 16:09:50 maybe there's a capitalist swine hiding in there 16:10:10 oerjan, don't think so, wrong smell 16:10:45 and this smell wasn't there when you moved in? 16:11:19 No, the smell is almost certainly my fault 16:11:59 i suppose only you can tell the reason. 16:12:35 Because I normally keep the window closed I don't know how to turn the radiator off 16:12:36 what kind of smell could give such a judgement... 16:12:51 and whether you need to clean or visit a doctor 16:12:55 -!- edwardk has joined. 16:13:34 -!- Zuu has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:14:26 -!- edwardk_ has joined. 16:15:11 hm maybe you have fungus in the room, i hear that can be awful. 16:16:19 It's a messy smell rather than a nasty smell 16:16:23 It's just a loud messy smell 16:16:56 well the solution is obvious but i would be a hypocrite to say it. 16:17:22 -!- edwardk has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:17:46 Yes, I know the solution to the primary problem very well 16:18:38 -!- edwardk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:20:25 In fact, I suspect the majority of the smell comes from one source 16:24:08 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 16:25:29 -!- edwardk has joined. 16:39:18 which source is that 16:39:38 impomatic: I like that "hire a cleaner" and "find a girlfriend" are alternatives on equal footing 16:39:38 Bedsheets 16:39:40 like, or something 16:42:08 They... I have not done the right thing with my bedsheets. 16:44:42 -!- conehead has joined. 16:52:48 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 16:54:47 -!- MoALTz has joined. 17:02:34 [wiki] [[Twocode]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39736 * GermanyBoy * (+4719) Created page with "'''Twocode''' is a [[:Category:Two-dimensional languages|two-dimensional]] [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:GermanyBoy]] in 2014. It mixes two-dimensional '..." 17:03:05 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39737&oldid=39713 * GermanyBoy * (+14) /* T */ 17:03:41 [wiki] [[User:GermanyBoy]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39738&oldid=39648 * GermanyBoy * (+14) twocode 17:05:11 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:15:55 `run echo bin/coins 17:15:56 bin/coins 17:16:00 `run cat bin/coins 17:16:01 words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords 17:16:03 Then wash your bedsheets 17:16:16 That is the logical thing to do 17:16:43 `run cat bin/rainwords 17:16:44 #!/usr/bin/python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w) 17:16:51 `coins 17:16:53 anollcoin pheycoin alagirdiminiscoin aubatwaldcoin clearecoin hlietcoin hoto++coin pcoin nestcoin intfcoin grocoin jetzschecoin membecoin sheedcoin stificcoin wudiffelliicketlangcoin brycoin tetcoin con-of-unbcoin truecoin 17:20:10 I read some book where they didn't write "Allah"; they wrote "al-Lah", I don't know if it is supposed to be the same word but it seem like it from the context. Do you know about this to answer it? 17:20:25 Taneb: you can wash them every so often 17:20:36 i don't have more specific advice 17:20:43 wash them when they smell or feel weird or have disconcerting stains 17:20:56 I think not doing what I did would be a good start. 17:21:05 These haven't been off my bed since the end of September :( 17:21:15 I see 17:21:15 What did you did at first? 17:21:20 that is sub-optimal 17:21:25 rustc has a flag that prints out the elapsed time for each compiler pass as they run (some 40 or so of them) 17:21:28 here's what that looks like: https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/acb1df198dbac070263f 17:21:33 You should probably clean it 17:21:34 for building rustc itself 17:22:47 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 17:23:08 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:30:14 -!- mihow has quit (Quit: mihow). 17:33:47 -!- mihow has joined. 17:36:41 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:37:22 zzo38: “al-” is the definite article, “allah” is more literally “the god”. 17:40:22 Taneb: now you have an upper bound of how long you can use the same bedsheets, now wash them and keep them for half as long and see if you pass an inspection 17:40:50 (if you do, take the average, and so on until you have found the maximum acceptable bedsheet age) 17:41:32 this can also be a way to make it fun to switch bedsheets regularly 17:42:15 olsner, I feel like 1 month is possibly too long 17:42:26 9 months is really bad 17:45:56 it depends on how dirty you are and how much of it you rub into the sheets, I think 17:46:56 and on how dusty the room is, and whether you make the bed with a cover or not (so that the dust settles in the sheets), etc 17:47:13 if you wet the bed you may also need to switch more often 17:48:43 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Sleep tight and don't let the bedbugs evolve sapience). 17:56:25 "WebGL 2 is based on what we think will be in OpenGL ES 3, which is the stuff in OpenGL 4" 17:56:28 ;_; 17:56:30 can't they just skip some to make the numbers match up 17:58:56 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:59:11 -!- Bike_ has joined. 17:59:14 -!- mihow has quit (Quit: mihow). 17:59:41 They don't want to confuse people. 17:59:46 or just have a single "OpenGL" that includes the ES and Web stuff 18:00:35 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bicyclidine. 18:06:02 Melvar: O, OK thanks 18:07:28 when did C get // comments because shouldn't those work 18:07:57 In the year 1999. 18:07:59 god knows why a C program is including an .hpp. C/C++ i guess 18:08:37 (As an extension probably before that, too.) 18:08:40 Do any gcc flags turn that off? -ansi or something maybe? 18:08:54 Well, -ansi is the same as -std=c89 which does not include them. 18:09:00 There's a standard flag 18:09:03 oh, alright then. 18:09:07 -std=whatever or something 18:09:08 dumb compile error. 18:09:10 this would be a good source for fungot http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto 18:09:11 fowl: what's a chatterbot then. no way sir, that i do 18:09:20 no, god. 18:09:36 too soon? 18:09:40 fungot already quotes, what, nixon? that's gross enough already 18:09:40 Bicyclidine: perhaps we should celebrate these days with guys like simon peyton-jones, simon fnord, etc 18:09:52 Good old Simon Fnord. 18:09:59 not really soon so much as that the rodger thing is just gross 18:10:18 the manifesto i mean, by itself, in addition to the shooting 18:10:55