< 1401062445 966103 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401062465 176146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pinkcode14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39703&oldid=39616 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-18) 10wikify sectioning < 1401062868 331635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[075command14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39704&oldid=39697 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10fmt < 1401062898 480319 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1401063091 94356 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401064873 147101 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1401064873 949027 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 260031Z 10004KT 360V100 15SM FEW060 BKN100 OVC200 19/13 A2990 RMK SC2AC5CI1 SLP125 DENSITY ALT 500FT < 1401064890 553392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1401064891 177388 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 252350Z 27003KT 230V310 7000 -DZ SCT007 BKN016 09/09 Q1019 RMK WIND 670FT 32005KT < 1401064900 362429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our heatwave is over, for now < 1401064940 433289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA but no ENYA? < 1401064950 460297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENYA < 1401064950 948680 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1401064955 612255 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1401064956 193214 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 260020Z 16004KT 130V190 9999 FEW042 12/09 Q1018 < 1401064965 33955 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget I can't read that < 1401064968 117419 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1401064977 220507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I'm 90 miles away from Newcastle now < 1401065022 982935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y isn't very common at the beginning of words in norwegian. not impossible, though. (see our foxy brothers ylvisaker, if the place their ancestors came from had an airport it might get that designation.) < 1401065058 208040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh *ylvisåker, not that it matters for this. < 1401065095 387680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGYO < 1401065095 885305 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1401065100 783270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1401065108 17738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGYR < 1401065108 526269 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1401065111 419384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGYK < 1401065112 52694 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1401065121 500879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying york has no airport < 1401065128 753445 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :York as no airport. < 1401065130 597378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weather station thingies? < 1401065135 312625 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closest is Leeds-Bradford. < 1401065141 540980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess it's connected to flight stuff... < 1401065152 668289 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_ICAO_code:_E#EG_-_United_Kingdom_.28and_British_Crown_dependencies.29 ? < 1401065163 883563 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they don't have to be airports but they almost all are < 1401065207 759469 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uni's electronics department has a weather station < 1401065243 329808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not got an ICAO code < 1401065249 190407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://weather.elec.york.ac.uk/ < 1401065258 808430 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNM < 1401065259 582121 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNM 260020Z 18004KT 9999 FEW030 09/08 Q1018 < 1401065451 847055 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNU < 1401065452 305882 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1401065455 382619 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1401065473 123283 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot clsoer < 1401065496 930966 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGXD < 1401065497 521451 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGXD 252350Z AUTO 15003KT 9999 // FEW070/// 10/09 Q1018 < 1401065505 799567 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't have weather outside. or, maybe you don't even have an outside! < 1401065537 486853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGXD is 23 miles away < 1401065576 786943 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNU is 12 or so < 1401065586 360070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm using Google Maps but roads get really wiggly) < 1401065624 689461 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leeds-Bradford is 27 miles away < 1401065639 710981 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough. < 1401065709 871091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Taneb lives here http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvv1fbrsWz1qlltjpo1_500.jpg < 1401065744 912046 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401065791 811878 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: < 1401065795 459005 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a dew point? < 1401065820 899677 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the temperature an object needs to be for condensation to appear. < 1401065833 14718 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temperature at which water vapor in the air condenses into liquid water. < 1401065838 283533 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the temperature at which dew forms. < 1401065846 95712 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1401065861 489743 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look like there'll be a dew today, then < 1401065896 469694 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's all according to current conditions. you always need to chill that object down from ambient temperature for dew to appear. < 1401065909 123321 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, be in the morning, as in, like, you know, regular dew.) < 1401066027 115307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the dewpoint is higher than the temperature, you're having a flood hth < 1401066057 416700 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. If the dewpoint is higher than the ambient temperature it means the air is actually water. < 1401066065 583759 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1401066075 489878 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dewpoint == temperature implies 100% humidity) < 1401066077 782419 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not outside the realm of possibility, but I think my window is open < 1401066087 941554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I haven't drowned yet < 1401066188 378848 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning in you own apartment. I... don't think that's something possible. < 1401066197 908417 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm on the ground floor < 1401066219 943752 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's definitely possible, though only in exceptional circumstances. < 1401066226 752929 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And drainage isn't that great here < 1401066304 114004 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal bleeding, for instance < 1401066312 552142 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1401066349 908014 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making poor use of a bathtub. < 1401066364 997566 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffering from a drinking problem? < 1401066421 798206 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tieing yourself a gin tonic while taking a bath, with your bathroom's window wide open during a thunderstorm in a basement flat near an overflowing river? < 1401066436 168839 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and coughing from your ebola) < 1401066442 790859 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that's just impressively misguided use of a bathtub. < 1401066450 987628 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps even "actively malicious". < 1401066451 103051 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401066461 640224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you fall asleep < 1401066469 768581 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401066519 946697 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I fell asleep at least once in all kinds of vessels and containers, but never in a bathtub. < 1401066590 954701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally find beds the most soporgenic furniture < 1401066607 574166 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although my flat's kitchen does encourage sleep, for some bizarre reason < 1401066626 947971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that word is so pretentious it only has one google hit hth < 1401066655 642143 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my googlebubble gives me 5 hits. < 1401066661 421929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon card did you knock out seven opponent's cards in one turn? < 1401066662 508272 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, it's a hideous mix of Greek and Latin < 1401066741 257222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hypnogenic /hyp·no·gen·ic/ (-jen´ik) hypnotic (1). hypnotic [hip-not´ik]. 1. causing sleep; called also somniferous." < 1401066758 646214 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are nicer words < 1401066863 236413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also soporific < 1401066959 408387 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narcoleptic! < 1401067021 844235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The sleep-inducing channel | brainfuck survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/L82SNZV | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1401067055 808791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, I had a few friends round to play a game of Diana: Warrior Princess. All of them felt tired and one of them actually fell asleep. < 1401067061 647662 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we May 25 today? < 1401067075 528793 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :May 26 now I think < 1401067080 46596 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me at least < 1401067126 335178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC service says May 26 < 1401067133 449180 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still the 25th here, and I saved a towel from the rain today. my bonne action is done, and my honour is safe. < 1401067133 940254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where I am, it is May 25 < 1401067159 552739 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still early in Cascadia. < 1401067683 780671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, you live in vancouver? < 1401067777 7872 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :him, not me. < 1401067799 888316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1401067837 938392 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for me, time to go further the study of the soporgenicity of my mattress. < 1401067845 56661 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EAST COAST CHICKEN < 1401067847 442719 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401067969 688845 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1401068014 197455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want internet-connection library for SQL, so that it can be made a MUD server in SQL, among other things. < 1401068109 630629 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to head to bed now < 1401068111 219066 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1401068131 756327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1401068188 815729 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-17-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401069596 516755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1401069742 175223 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a optimized text to brainfuck table < 1401069743 380342 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hastebin.com/guzayutewi.lua < 1401069760 398903 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i found here http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/5418/brainfuck-golfer/5440#5440 < 1401069761 967696 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was slow < 1401069766 211983 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :verry verry slow < 1401069829 627653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1401070305 89715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can knock out seven opponent's cards on one turn if you have 1x MAGNETON [Lv35] and 4x GENGAR [Lv38] and POKEMON FLUTE, and opponent has one active pokemon, four bench pokemon requiring only 2 more damage to be knocked out, and one PORYGON [Lv12] on bench with no damage on it. If you also have some DEFENDER cards, then you can do so without any of your own cards knocked out. < 1401070640 641993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1401070858 920631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401071741 249473 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401074024 710320 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401075197 119092 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401075360 9291 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401075517 248585 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1401076117 637809 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401076424 740159 :MoALTz_!~no@user-5-173-28-196.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401077173 479072 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401077892 108680 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-17-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1401078281 434642 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I watch a Planescape: Torment LP, and switch to another LP, how difficult would that be? < 1401078290 863782 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the game railroaded enough that it should be fine? < 1401078316 718220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll die < 1401078420 23507 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it forbidden to talk of being ok and not ok and forbidden and allowed as though they can be relative to situations and not necessarily extreme? < 1401078534 983092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, i sometimes worry a little bit if we are teasing Sgeo too much. < 1401078623 629285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^previous statement was deliberately made vulnerable to the same kind of thing < 1401078650 896459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, yours or mine < 1401078682 254612 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine < 1401078691 786323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. or wait... < 1401078835 266710 :hk3380!~test@90.219.231.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401078993 664091 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1401080977 249025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you seen http://millcomputing.com/docs/ < 1401081014 121772 :hk3380!~test@90.219.231.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401081138 972509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh bitcoin is up 30% in a week < 1401081516 531903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so shachaf < 1401081648 768090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has all sorts of interesting ideas < 1401081699 255252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all in the form of hour-long videos, though, which is why i'm only now finally watching them < 1401081711 269799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you might enjoy it < 1401082267 660410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this that replacement for registers? i don't want to watch videos < 1401082310 314709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1401082426 506282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about the "belt" thing < 1401082484 792964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1401082562 254794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ywp < 1401082563 354429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the videos, yes < 1401084180 407288 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be about rapid hardware iteration too < 1401084389 553753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapid hardware zwitterion < 1401085296 361441 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401086173 184974 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1401087375 285748 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401087661 584281 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401087774 239251 :password2!~password@197.77.53.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401087869 335755 :edwardk_!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401087977 264348 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401088438 125660 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401089442 725004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1401089443 305481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1401089444 710647 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09hillocoin 02alecoin 06mrozmancoin 13argarcoin 04devcoin 07juvecoin 08moxcoin 09lorumcoin 02*wcoin 06pahecoin 13magecoin 04errinuspcoin 07finingcoin 08deancoin 09trigjcoin 02catecoin 06godzicoin 13orncoin 04anycoin 07fobcoin < 1401089493 326853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UKIP took first place in the europarl voting? :( < 1401089628 941225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some weird irony in the fact that the people who care the most to vote for the office of UK MEP are the people who want it not to exist < 1401089653 355958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is how the right always works. "we believe government is the problem, elect us and we'll show you" < 1401089705 252590 :Burton!Burton@gateway/shell/bouncerstation/x-muahowxfakrubpda QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401090748 860191 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401090777 13447 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1401091342 295605 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1401092909 284340 :password2!~password@197.77.53.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401092999 625550 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401096319 142061 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401096319 356097 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1401096434 845727 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401096629 780495 :edwardk_!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401096684 987310 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdijyqrrwyyftsua QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1401099315 652997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1401099465 667543 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401099574 578270 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401099614 671455 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401100266 556488 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I just ordered Parallel and Concurrent Programming in Haskell < 1401100367 376585 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401100513 339088 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so you really been far as decided to use even go want to learn you more a haskell for great good like? < 1401100541 536074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is words a lot making sense little help understand no < 1401100559 463098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, probably < 1401102229 504701 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, parsing fun. (Help ((I just ordered (Parallel and Concurrent Programming) in Haskell)) -- I hope you did not use unsafePerformIO. < 1401102268 259214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it wrong. I meant (Help ((I just ordered (Parallel and Concurrent Programming)) in Haskell) < 1401102295 204056 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1401102331 59753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure there is a correct way of writing this without reordering the words into a syntax tree) < 1401102414 901720 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data TanebTree a = Leaf a | Node (Tree a) (Tree a) deriving (Show, Read, Eq, Irc) < 1401102495 485709 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HALTING CHICKEN < 1401102961 979012 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401103433 90525 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401104183 587536 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401104476 665020 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401104830 553042 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: What do you do with a vampire? < 1401104842 71822 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making them jump into a core clear doesn't seem to be very effective < 1401104876 625145 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume making them jump into bomb-throw loop is probably far more effective? < 1401104881 579908 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or scan loop < 1401104887 60776 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a core clear is rather slow < 1401105397 573300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401105886 104563 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: making the opponent jump into a trap that splits off lots of useless processes is most effective. Normally the trap also does a clear... < 1401106053 776312 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: there's a list of publish vampires here http://corewar.co.uk/z.htm < 1401106161 957126 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fact: John McCarthy (inventor of LISP) and Uncle Bob Martin (Agile evangelist) invented and implemented the first vampire! < 1401106306 457910 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: yeah < 1401106313 572740 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the difference to just throwing spl 0? < 1401106318 500143 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that also splits off lots of processes < 1401106331 82254 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make them jump into a core clear that splits off processes < 1401106345 358403 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after I'm done throwing jump bombs I move a DAT bomb into the core clear loop < 1401106362 245068 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and enter a core clear myself < 1401106442 430698 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spl 0 splits off a few processes that stay in the opponent's code. Jumping to a spl 0 / spl -1 / spl -2 tray splits off processes, that split off more processes, etc. They're also no longer running any of the opponent's code. < 1401106515 328667 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably just let your clear wipe the trap. If the trap contains a clear, you could make that one wipe the trap as well :-) < 1401106611 89157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1401106657 212205 :hk3380!~test@90.219.231.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401106829 946719 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well. It got me 103.8 on the beginners hill < 1401106867 88743 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401107062 361621 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1401107330 883522 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 953 < 1401107331 362291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 953: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1401110083 136003 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401110328 19438 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1401110353 110985 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401110774 944853 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401111037 507665 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401112192 243353 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1401112811 246625 :Burton!Burton@gateway/shell/bouncerstation/x-tyboxqgwqslyftwl JOIN :#esoteric < 1401113134 134641 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401113668 524035 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My automatic Facebook page is malfunctioning < 1401113932 438371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? < 1401113971 266795 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401114175 489010 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1401114175 657206 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401114263 591134 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401114322 96795 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401115270 241982 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401115406 613304 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401115961 889822 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401116345 245010 :hk3380!~test@90.219.231.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401116477 435227 :MDream!~fyrc@or-67-238-17-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1401116481 520849 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1401116667 130168 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401116765 816592 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1401116780 222491 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401116835 256584 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401116849 325034 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Client Quit < 1401116885 205923 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401116970 555776 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401117139 819552 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401117378 409744 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401117786 649795 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401117978 474247 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401118233 466725 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401118541 324483 :xk002!~001@a83-132-31-139.cpe.netcabo.pt QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401118705 424133 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401118709 249936 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1401119088 908180 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikrddrpxyzusxpej JOIN :#esoteric < 1401119574 503294 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1401119639 554407 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401119685 772868 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401119954 978395 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/26inbh/define_has_an_optional_third_argument_that/ < 1401119991 373645 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1401119995 936831 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1401120004 78688 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pay.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/26ie70/favorite_esolangs_om_and_unlambda/ activity < 1401120378 456339 :syndrome!~superior@hosting.rikairchy.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401120722 435395 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401121091 833941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: bizarre < 1401121207 208386 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1401121362 513296 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1401121400 471227 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1401121948 537620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Added array_map() function that applies a callback to the elements of given arrays and returns the result. It can also be used with a null callback to transpose arrays. (Andrei)" < 1401122031 280016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as arrayfun < 1401122048 510675 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1401122439 798422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does a null pointer suddenly transpose an array o_O < 1401122692 338069 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1401123027 802755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose [[a,b,c],[d,e,f],[g,h,i]] < 1401123029 124611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[a,d,g],[b,e,h],[c,f,i]] < 1401123049 481883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith3 (\(x,y,z) -> [x,y,z]) [a,b,c] [d,e,f] [g,h,i] < 1401123050 488511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr < 1401123050 575156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr -> d’ < 1401123050 631292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[t0]’ < 1401123050 631353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Relevant bindings include < 1401123050 631392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : z :: t0 (bound at :1:17) < 1401123058 663983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith3 (\(x,y,z) -> [x,y,z]) [a,b,c] [d,e,f] [g,h,i] :: [[Expr]] < 1401123059 871232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr < 1401123060 18597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr < 1401123060 74369 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> [Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr]’ < 1401123060 74448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[t0]’ < 1401123060 538522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Relevant bindings include < 1401123063 939514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith3 (\x y z -> [x,y,z]) [a,b,c] [d,e,f] [g,h,i] :: [[Expr]] < 1401123065 180647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[a,d,g],[b,e,h],[c,f,i]] < 1401123080 186140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see why? < 1401123171 779383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Python: < 1401123172 430682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> l = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; map(None, *l) < 1401123172 484862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[(1, 4, 7), (2, 5, 8), (3, 6, 9)] < 1401123176 402272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> l = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]; map(lambda *ll: list(ll), *l) < 1401123176 458671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[1, 4, 7], [2, 5, 8], [3, 6, 9]] < 1401123176 638469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The term "bass ackwards" comes to mind." < 1401123186 622219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the transpose behaviour is reasonable. < 1401123193 22866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tipes < 1401123210 141876 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'In my view, HTTP/2.0 should kill Cookies as a concept, and replace it with a session/identity facility, which makes it easier to do things right with HTTP/2.0 than with HTTP/1.1.' < 1401123222 632329 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES PLEASE. Except Cookies could still be useful for other things, if maybe modernized somehow < 1401123244 204147 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sesion facility < 1401123255 704044 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the web-server manages sessions? < 1401123357 470751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a bit weird to count null as a function, i guess, even if it's the obvious choice < 1401123386 540276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can think of it as mapping with "no function", but yeah, such is dynamically-typed languages < 1401123486 142263 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: huh, hm, fair enough < 1401123517 279726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda weird to have something do the dual duty of map and zip like that < 1401123529 236628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I sort of like it < 1401123547 402335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\[x,y,z] -> (x,y,z)) . transpose $ [[a,b,c],[d,e,f],[g,h,i]] < 1401123548 753377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(a,d,g),(b,e,h),(c,f,i)] < 1401123569 735206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :transpose can be thought of as basically variadic zip < 1401123593 115520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if your map does variadic zipWith, it's already doing transposes, really < 1401123677 733238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was common for map to do "double duty" like that. i'd never heard of zip before haskell and its fixed argument counts < 1401123715 637119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-ref/Mapping-of-Lists.html eg < 1401124054 241835 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos if you have apply map f xs = (apply f (map1 car xs)):(map1 cdr xs); map f [] = [] as the kids say < 1401124100 352165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's fairly common < 1401124488 221915 :password2!~password@197.78.153.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401124758 434577 :password2!~password@197.78.153.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401125069 39958 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401125221 140625 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401125513 492426 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-184-244.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1401125597 599878 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401126117 657433 :nooodl_!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401126327 603470 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401126469 497042 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401126667 224581 :nooodl_!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1401126687 7370 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1401126845 661955 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1401126863 779953 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401127191 259348 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I can't think of anything that wouldn't already be satisfied by localStorage, to be honest. < 1401127238 575491 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1401127824 515123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1401127872 357330 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401128349 468072 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/fours.pdf i wrote this < 1401128379 228914 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the next step. algebraic numbers sounds sorta possible?? < 1401128413 732512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copying Snobol!.pdf < 1401128439 132990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: do you want proofreading? "some selectin [sic] of operators" < 1401128457 387505 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. i didn't spellcheck it at all yes < 1401128500 811644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"n+1 radices" but i think the word would be "radicals", not sure < 1401128520 583043 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia calls the sign a "radix" but yeah i thought that was weird < 1401128595 425745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is pretty cute. < 1401128680 225493 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe gaussian rationals < 1401128720 333355 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how i'd get to "i". do people Actually Write, like, \sqrt(-4) = 2i < 1401128729 887681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1401128735 346073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1401128742 571240 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was taught that's wrong because: -2i < 1401128750 384099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can throw a plus or minus on there. < 1401128764 68806 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're already using repeated radicals, you must be taking the principle value < 1401128779 305978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw minor stylistic thing, but if you have an expository footnote with 'clearly' on it then ask yourself why you need the footnote at all < 1401128786 811663 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess < 1401128813 230702 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401128819 53872 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401128842 387734 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1401128868 88997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^(.5^n) has, what... 2^n values? < 1401128876 432119 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe i should rather get rid of the clearly < 1401128934 246547 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401129030 124755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you're going to be able to express algebraic numbers in radicals, though < 1401129202 128655 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401129218 510468 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-251-179.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1401129223 106957 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1401129272 706637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, I'm not sure you need that much exposition about that part though. < 1401129281 295443 :adu!~ajr@ip-64-134-243-107.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401129301 481894 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is sorta obvious but leaving the explanation out feels not very rigorous < 1401129329 949213 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. makes it seem like i'm just reasoning "oh well if i just make it stupidly huge it's bound to be divisible by n??" < 1401129356 824197 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a math paper dude, you have to explain as little as possible < 1401129436 357582 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not so much that it's huge as that it has any possible factors, which is, dare i say.... trivial < 1401129529 662807 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i wanna see how you express a root of x⁵-x+1 in four fours. aaaaand go < 1401129533 358298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/ad0622cffc8bdc0c5684 is this code UB due to aliasing rules? if so, why doesn't GCC warn even with -Wall -Wstrict-aliasing=4 < 1401129664 753878 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it warn in LLVM? < 1401129671 178346 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet, the book I ordered has already been dispatched! < 1401129733 469705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in clang? seems not < 1401129738 526880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going by http://gcc.godbolt.org/ < 1401129745 329623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw there is now http://rust.godbolt.org/ < 1401129773 191232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Rust the aliasing rules are actually, like, enforced < 1401129836 518803 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like fortran! < 1401129880 73153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep lolol < 1401129894 2298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we give LLVM as much aliasing information as we should, though < 1401129914 89305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a recent thing to even tell it which pointers are guaranteed to be non-NULL < 1401129934 841295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a frontend optimization whereby Option<&T> is a single word, with None represented as a NULL pointer < 1401129972 411885 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401130166 597076 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, can the compiler infer that? < 1401130225 550213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I bought the Discworld Ankh-Morpork board game < 1401130252 889119 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Quit: . < 1401130329 808308 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Taneb the compiler is hard-coded to know &T is a non-null pointer < 1401130346 977690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has an optimization for any enum structurally matching enum Option { None, Some(T) } < 1401130356 94752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to be specifically core::option::Option < 1401130380 778033 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401130381 399164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it's smart enough to do, say, enum Foo { Bar, Baz, Quux(&uint) } with 0x0000...0000 and 0x0000...0001 < 1401130388 601313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is more of a platform specific thing < 1401130399 922145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plans to do that manually (with unsafe code) for interned strings in Servo < 1401130431 580387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are fewer than 4k common strings on the web (e.g. tag names, attribute names) that you would intern at compile time < 1401130433 287499 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1401130438 177189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so give each one an "address" within the first page of memory < 1401130480 383073 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1401130483 421410 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401130483 478702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually an interned string is just a pointer to a string but this interferes with some other things I want t odo < 1401130559 264066 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1401130571 391568 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully rustc can learn to steal bits from other types too in some non-hardcoded way < 1401130583 95619 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Spidermoney's NaN stuffing < 1401130587 791057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1401130593 813686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was the source of security holes at one point < 1401130597 800282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in SM or V8, don't remember which) < 1401130606 216315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk < 1401130619 779927 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which is why having rustc able to check would be great :) < 1401130701 895372 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s NaN stuffing? Using the variable bits in a NaN for something? < 1401130714 782076 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1401130729 418158 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1401130738 433079 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401130992 649926 :adu!~ajr@ip-64-134-243-107.public.wayport.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1401131238 530153 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :For storing pointers, I guess < 1401131350 860160 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects/SpiderMonkey/Internals < 1401131355 810553 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see "Javascript Values" on that page < 1401131385 485776 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN-boxing is a technique based on the fact that in IEEE-754 there are 2**47 different bit patterns that all represent NaN < 1401131431 762149 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much lost space < 1401131482 291241 :xk002!~001@a94-133-17-81.cpe.netcabo.pt JOIN :#esoteric < 1401131493 818429 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC one of V8 or SM represents doubles "plainly" and objects as pointers inside the payload of a NaN, whereas the other instead represents pointers plainly and numbers via some indirection step < 1401131509 949668 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't remember how the latter works.. < 1401131582 399932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, tagged pointers < 1401132112 670307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want SmallVec in the std lib :< < 1401132123 941578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should Just Fuckin Do It < 1401132230 180635 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s that? < 1401132247 629414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a cute term ... "right parenthesis deficit disorder". (I've just started reading "The Art of Procrastination". < 1401132284 216270 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1401132356 77328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was totally wasted on the target audience (oerjan, who isn't even here. maybe he'll read it later.) < 1401132372 819437 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401132412 65995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Vec is a standard growable vector like C++'s std::vec, SmallVec is similar but doesn't do a heap allocation for storing only 1 element < 1401132439 643649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, it's named SmallVector < 1401132461 628404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enum SmallVector { None, One(T), Many(Vec) } < 1401132467 342218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so < 1401132472 674803 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1401132480 251492 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1401132864 993853 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401132901 765028 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny how they call them “enum”. < 1401132932 192557 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :esnum < 1401133247 400686 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1401133589 308983 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401133991 673791 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :enum is a bit weird, I would've liked it if they went with haskell on that bit instead, and e.g. let enum be an enumeration of int-like things < 1401134003 632042 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 NICK :tertu < 1401134110 221168 :M28!~M28@unaffiliated/m28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haxe's enum is awesome < 1401134121 14371 :M28!~M28@unaffiliated/m28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame it doesn't support generics < 1401134270 523030 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401134361 110555 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401134755 341504 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1401135371 556513 :blitter64!~blitter@99-171-140-87.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1401135524 527101 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401135592 342507 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1401136074 719505 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1401136115 969339 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401136431 639539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :M28: what does it do? < 1401136442 102581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, the duplication of functionality between struct and enum is sort of annoying < 1401136471 273518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's still that way? :'( < 1401136480 577702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1401136490 155684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I used Rust about a year ago I thought people were talking about changing it. < 1401136495 568807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1401136498 187369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are always talking about changing everything < 1401136513 966931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also struct-syntax enum variants are feature-gated now < 1401136519 90146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that's a step forward or back < 1401136529 965097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct has a C ABI guarantee, but that could easily be an attribute, which it already is for enum! < 1401136540 625541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#[repr(C)] (case sensitive ;_;) < 1401136545 866513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the situation I remember. < 1401136564 292441 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#[repr(KMC)] < 1401136599 290370 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does case insensitivity work in unicode anyway < 1401136607 937256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: complicatedly hth < 1401136647 635700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't even do ASCII case folding without knowing the locale < 1401136657 848198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot Atatürk < 1401136686 183130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Case_folding < 1401136716 65085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode makes a distinction between case mapping and case folding, and only really defines the latter http://www.unicode.org/faq/casemap_charprop.html < 1401136723 195454 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401136736 272724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former being a snake pit of locale and UX concerns < 1401136765 341743 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, the third answer rules. < 1401136784 920854 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do all scripts have case?" "no, here is a list of almost every one that does, and then there are tens of thousands that don't" < 1401136788 844043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1401136795 942273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about hiragana and katakana!!! < 1401136804 759024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that's a good question actually < 1401136811 601616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's case but not as we know it? < 1401136811 797367 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a lot of time katakana is transliterated as allcaps < 1401136817 265774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those are generally not considered "case" and they don't have a 1:1 mapping? < 1401136823 493955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how exactly linguists define "case" < 1401136824 207153 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: opinion < 1401136851 345091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :konnichi wanotone < 1401136851 745097 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's case exactly but i thought there was a 1:1 < 1401136852 92256 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401136866 86117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is < 1401136880 841878 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they're just syllabries (sp) < 1401136890 99341 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 1:1 with kanji of course. < 1401136891 507118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in cyrillic is extra weird < 1401136901 849170 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard it described as being similar to case. < 1401136901 919952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the small ones have completely different meanings and most characters aren't used in small versions < 1401136902 110414 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401136903 895186 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, how's it work? i have no idea other than vague rememberance of capital letters' < 1401136908 521853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :print lowercase looks like smallcaps but script lowercase is totally different < 1401136917 427735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also script hebrew is totally different from print hebrew < 1401136925 193101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and script arabic is basically whatever the hell you want < 1401136938 528850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :script english is pretty weird too... not that it's used much anymore < 1401136945 102410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1401136950 16891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made us learn cursive in middle school < 1401136950 729025 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the peculiarities of cased alphabets is that the cases get mixed in normal writing. < 1401136951 531147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck all that < 1401136954 634284 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally like how script german from before WWII is unreadable by modern speakers < 1401136960 634306 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have rules for capitalization and whatever. < 1401136961 783533 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of font changes < 1401136964 964210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even write my own name in cursive anymore; my signature has gradually decayed to a few squiggles < 1401136974 610570 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you know they still make you write in cursive on the SAT? crazy. < 1401136977 339122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1401136979 317525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1401136987 819872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the ACT you have to copy a paragraph long assertion that you didn't cheat, in cursive < 1401136993 613143 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, same on the SAT. < 1401136996 448484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1401137003 736288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that from the SAT but I took it... fuck, more than 10 years ago < 1401137014 987542 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never took any of those < 1401137016 83664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well I took it a bunch of times as a small child but I last took it more than 10 yeras ago) < 1401137017 826307 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1401137031 655651 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: thank god for the internet where i just lowercase everywhere (except initialisms, apaprently) < 1401137037 565634 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With kana you don't have similar "rules" as such. < 1401137045 287418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i copied that paragraph in non-cursive < 1401137049 338670 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1401137050 530223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. rebellious imo < 1401137069 497263 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: don't you have the general rule that katakana is used for foreign pronunciations or something? not as complicated as casing, of course, but still < 1401137082 215864 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess if you took that argument far enough you could describe print/script as a case distinction, hrm. < 1401137120 836673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: script hebrew isn't mixed in with print hebrwe, though < 1401137122 373478 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yeah, but it's not considered "ungrammatical" to switch them, at least not to the degree improper case usage would be for English. < 1401137149 274052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like cursive. which i guess is why you were talking about cursive < 1401137204 902307 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: i dunno, i mean in many contexts it's okay to ignore case rules and write in allcaps, and that's not "ungramamtical" either < 1401137252 870315 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess in Latin script the use of uppercase is broken down into proper nouns, sentence-initial capitalization, emphasis, initialisms, etc. < 1401137266 91440 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401137271 693247 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401137272 991009 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With katakana it's basically emphasis and conventional loanword spellings and not much else. < 1401137326 680596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think the two kana alphabets will eventually merge? < 1401137333 105774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the kind of complexity that is locally reducible < 1401137359 15892 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if the all-caps thing is really emphasis or not, actually. Certainly it's not unheard of to spell things entirely in katakana, either, though that gives people flashbacks to half-width kana on old terminal screens. < 1401137438 582503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than, say, ditching Han characters, which in Korea required a royally chartered committe of 15th century conlang nerds and a few centuries of colonial oppression + nationalism) < 1401137460 59747 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not sure, really. I don't really see it happening in the foreseeable future, though. < 1401137472 408052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not very much of the future is forseeable < 1401137481 22668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of a joke to think that anyone can forsee anything < 1401137491 491187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm on a sort of absurdist nihilist / existentialism kick lately < 1401137495 188989 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc gets deep < 1401137500 642704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :balls deep < 1401137505 61020 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: so is there a 1:1 mapping between the syllabries, though < 1401137517 765096 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there was, except for maybe something with archaic syllables < 1401137522 948400 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yeah, there is. < 1401137530 563691 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1401137544 434477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I foresee a sunrise about 6 hours from now ... < 1401137563 958864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ymmv) < 1401137583 272415 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the kana that were in use in the early 20th century have hiragana and katakana versions. < 1401137598 48118 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401137602 556342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'll tell my Sun Crusher to stand down < 1401137619 263196 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1401137634 95175 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401137866 818969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: much appreciated < 1401137903 156310 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401137945 296506 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1401137988 235301 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401138184 135002 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:887:7dfd:b1b3:f079:643c JOIN :#esoteric < 1401138192 833318 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401138438 321666 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401138531 296163 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1401138651 575376 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who actually called John McCarthy the father of AI? < 1401139063 746393 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked it up and found "Lisp paved way for iPhone 4s' Siri voice recognition software" so i'm laffin < 1401139132 897637 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't see anything but a bunch of obituaries, so probably nobody < 1401139405 93653 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401139731 153718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1401140211 727238 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I search on Google books and found a few published in the 1980's which called McCarthy the father of AI. (Also a few which called Turing or Minsky the father of AI) < 1401140243 861477 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401140735 862941 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0.1/20140506152807] < 1401140903 120129 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked about McCarthy on #ai, but they just keep refining are restating my original question :-( < 1401140938 632725 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1401141045 641720 :password2!~password@197.78.130.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401141783 480622 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The earliest example I can find is in a review of "Scientific Temperaments: Three Lives in Contemporary Science" - New Scientist, March 1983 < 1401141873 521771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: sounds like the other people on #ai are ai's < 1401142365 631560 :nooodl_!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401142541 614622 :nooodl!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401143022 27356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `olist 953 <-- darn < 1401143056 300126 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:887:7dfd:b1b3:f079:643c QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1401143067 217312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1401143125 575522 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401143182 215069 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401143497 258046 :tory_perez!~canaima@190.39.166.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401143571 3835 :tory_perez!~canaima@190.39.166.196 PART :#esoteric < 1401143934 110714 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. I missed a `relcopportunity. < 1401144270 756838 :hk3380!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401144326 972582 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1401144412 319032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if "cheryllium" is on this channel. < 1401144432 369753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :under some other nick, in case < 1401144446 165110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the moderator of /r/esolangs) < 1401144472 677482 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i think i've seen them before < 1401144543 582596 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, someone with that nick has been in #lisp afore < 1401144576 514556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you recall cheryllium from here before? < 1401144593 13183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm looks idle. oh right, tokyo. < 1401144628 162456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like that subreddit has just reactivated a little. < 1401144643 63763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i made a comment on one of the posts) < 1401144645 744542 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an /r/esolangs? < 1401144655 901162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one Deewiant linked) < 1401144669 610293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well sure, there's a subreddit for _everything_ duh < 1401144694 480346 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind knows there's a subreddit for everything, but my heart disagrees. < 1401144715 29305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1401144729 404322 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a subreddit for that. < 1401144774 300138 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mapole somebody in a meta fashion? what's the adverb for “meta”? < 1401144784 102836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/subreddit/ < 1401144795 913830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No recursing." < 1401144847 979908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think technically meta may _be_ an adverb, in the original greek. < 1401144860 637327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's a preposition, not quite sure < 1401144861 878435 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one one everything ... http://www.reddit.com/r/everything/ but none on anything? < 1401144966 608330 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION metaly mapoles Jafet. “May you suffer from pseudogrammatical hardwood!” < 1401144974 277121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that has the right tagline, at least < 1401145029 750272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wiktionary says it's both < 1401145071 259168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall that in ancient indoeuropean, the border between adverb and preposition wasn't very fixed. < 1401145086 520582 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ook. < 1401145146 11318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course even modern languages sometimes turn other word classes into preposition. e.g. french "chez" and norwegian "hos" which both come from the word for house iirc, and coincidentally also mean the same thing. < 1401145155 718903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1401145232 417680 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«chez» comes from “house”? < 1401145274 971264 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Fait chiese, chese (« maison ») en ancien français, altéré en chez en raison de son emploi proclitique, du latin casa (« maison »). < 1401145296 514901 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr:maison, so oerjan was right. < 1401145387 795741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm although they both are from original k- somthing, wiktionary does _not_ claim fr:chez/la:casa to be cognate with no:hus/hos/en:house < 1401145392 126719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+e < 1401145504 353575 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:house ← “from Proto-Germanic *husan... of unknown origin”. < 1401145529 130137 :nooodl_!~nooodl@207.169-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1401145547 284453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary says "possibly from Proto-Indo-European *(s)keus-, from *(s)keu- 'to hide'" < 1401145577 560136 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401145596 699153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the germanic h- <-> indoeuropean k- correspondence is pretty regular.) < 1401145651 485322 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401145670 989810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's dubious enough that casa and house _might_ be cognates, although there's probably a reason they don't assume so outright... < 1401145712 154311 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1401145741 958472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Kyoto, not Tokyo. < 1401145752 583900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tokyo tomorrow.) < 1401145755 545031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOSE ENOUGH < 1401145790 785604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess i was also here 5 years ago. how time flies. < 1401145802 117585 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Casa" and "house" look like cognates if you ask me. < 1401145804 862736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name rings a bell but I could be imagining it. Have to leave now, anyway. -> < 1401145805 279302 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't ask me. < 1401145807 921630 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't listen to me. < 1401145832 203016 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cheryllium"? Yeah, it does seem oddly familiar. < 1401145835 998922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes they do, so why don't the linguists think so... < 1401145860 171337 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would presume that linguists are more careful than that. :) < 1401145862 553744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"avocado" and "guacamole" are cognates < 1401145862 967269 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: お早う! < 1401145875 594007 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Otanoshimi ni. < 1401145876 591806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from nah:āhuacatl < 1401145882 579427 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the etymology things say... < 1401145903 935728 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nah < 1401145904 479723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no ambiguity here < 1401145934 926744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nahuatl < 1401145939 949650 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :House comes from Proto-Germanic *husan "of unknown origin"; casa "possibly" comes from PIE *kat- meaning "link, weave". < 1401145953 512996 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the reason the linguists don't think so is that they know better. < 1401146007 467307 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a while I've wanted to come up with some sort of "notation" for writing words in terms of how they came out of PIE. < 1401146012 578203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well assuming they're sure that casa used to have a t. < 1401146033 252070 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"t" could have turned into "s", no? < 1401146055 356345 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, certain "k"s turned into "s"s... somewhere down the road from Latin. < 1401146112 549520 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. google translate doesn't support nahuatl. there's Mongol and Néerlandais, but no nahuatl. < 1401146214 994375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: there presumably is a way it could have happened. < 1401146258 811612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39705&oldid=37929 5* 03Oj742 5* (+1886) 10/* 2013: Gave smartlock a description*/ < 1401146265 770532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if casa is a passive participle < 1401146293 592906 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indwelt! < 1401146353 242682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i keep delaying eating -> < 1401146514 406200 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, those Proto-Indo-Europeans. What kind of word is "dhǵhemon"? < 1401146565 845972 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a fricative-clustered lemon. < 1401146570 657426 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fricative < 1401146571 110330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1097) nooodl: when my girlfriend asks me to give her uvular fricative I'm pretty sure that's not what she means < 1401146585 215488 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DOUBTING CHICKEN < 1401146776 352327 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1401147214 133915 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:887:401f:852d:9ee7:83d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401147257 770342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote was so good i considered addquoting it before i realized it already was < 1401147272 67403 :tswett!~tswett@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1401147272 608020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :589) I'd insult you behind your back, but I don't care which side of your back I insult you on. < 1401147478 854067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> head $ runStateT (many $ StateT (reads :: ReadS Int)) "1 2 3 four" -- exhibit < 1401147480 345315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([1,2,3]," four") < 1401147643 100551 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401147760 390260 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-233.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401147997 950982 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric