< 1397952424 559105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's say that's enough then < 1397952757 903669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | TEST="" cat "$TEST" < 1397952758 527088 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory < 1397952765 319678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1397952789 320569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to make no argument when the string is empty? < 1397952880 349271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | TEST="hi ho" cat "$TEST" < 1397952880 926548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory < 1397952894 286442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's not working < 1397952927 594916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | TEST="hi ho" echo "$TEST" < 1397952928 226762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397952940 743343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | TEST="hi ho" echo "$TEST" < 1397952941 336498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397952953 63077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it think that was the syntax < 1397953028 179491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "test" >"hi ho" < 1397953029 596456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397953035 16070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste hi ho < 1397953035 735552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/hi%20ho < 1397953055 119049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hi ho < 1397953056 419178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397953307 651022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i can just use - as default < 1397953429 240870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat -- test < 1397953429 780313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1397953445 46338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1397953445 556836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1397953446 571179 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397953456 321707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi | run cat -- - < 1397953456 916503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi | run cat -- - < 1397953461 306113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | run cat -- - < 1397953461 916667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1397953470 959570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | cat -- - < 1397953471 526528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1397953485 741138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe brain isn't entirely working. < 1397953533 678902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` function f { echo /$1/ /$TEST/; }; TEST=23; TEST=42 f $TEST < 1397953534 239397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/23/ /42/ < 1397953615 976688 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397953643 826794 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397954255 373889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One rapper likes big butts and cannot lie. One rapper likes small butts and always lies. One rapper likes all butts but shares your inability to assess butt size, and will answer yes or no at random if asked whether a butt is big or small." < 1397954260 197055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ethicalwerewolf.blogspot.com/2011/02/puzzle-about-your-butt.html < 1397954348 970422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got there from http://lesswrong.com/lw/acy/acausal_romance/ which I got by googling "acausal sex" which I'm going to blame lexande for < 1397954498 418155 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397954596 20190 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you read lesswrong! < 1397954675 114929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/paste < 1397954678 924133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-04-20 00:44:36 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/paste [246/246] -> "paste.1" [1] < 1397954693 332441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1397954701 358347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x paste.1 < 1397954702 668160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397954711 449237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./paste.1 test < 1397954712 49100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/paste.1: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `else' \ /hackenv/paste.1: line 4: `else' < 1397954728 149554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1397954742 432339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/paste < 1397954743 891869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-04-20 00:45:41 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/paste [255/255] -> "paste.2" [1] < 1397954756 357882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x paste.2 < 1397954757 687181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397954759 528091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./paste.1 test < 1397954760 85591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/paste.1: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `else' \ /hackenv/paste.1: line 4: `else' < 1397954767 845723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./paste.2 test < 1397954768 635133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/test < 1397954785 516186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./paste.2 /hackenv/url < 1397954786 217442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/url < 1397954808 958928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | ./paste.2 < 1397954810 696156 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.29682 < 1397954882 219637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/sandbox < 1397954882 472199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside hg repository. < 1397954887 184891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1397954903 346935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait XD < 1397954915 949514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./paste.2 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/sandbox < 1397954917 887229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.20962 < 1397954937 465412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1397954951 620740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv paste.2 bin/paste; rm paste.1 < 1397954953 68289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397954985 839732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mission accomplished. < 1397955049 486497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397955179 211723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so now `paste will fallback to the piping method for files outside /hackenv < 1397955248 586789 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1397955249 68754 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1397955369 703365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: originally it always used the piping method, but then i realized a long time ago it was stupid to copy files which were already in the repository. < 1397955414 927092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't bother to treat the special case of a file name which was _outside_ it. < 1397955447 861989 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397956341 786665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39380&oldid=39378 5* 0372.28.222.28 5* (+80) 10Added makey-makey interpeter < 1397956688 826580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.synacktiv.com/ressources/TCP32764_backdoor_again.pdf security < 1397956819 500543 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1397956868 112660 :Gregor!~Gregor@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1397957008 916485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :birdman kicked my ass < 1397957098 325899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1397957099 675246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beltercincoin nhofondcoin hunterconveyorcoin brevcoin korzacoin beatcoin 59074250346.9987377coin nufcoin grincoin bulicoin 0x2903coin exancoin pavitcoin octycoin convcoin villcoin musgescacoin franocoin itformcoin afficcoin < 1397957219 915942 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're going to have our own Québecoin → http://journalmetro.com/actualites/national/481461/le-quebec-aura-sa-monnaie-nationale-virtuelle/ < 1397957345 771301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you deliever 59074250346.9987377 coins? < 1397957712 598854 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one at a time < 1397958844 721128 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the Day of the Tentacle way. < 1397958923 701289 :DarthMater!~AnnHero@68.232.186.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397958971 139976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the few situations where fake barf *isn't* useful < 1397958985 139054 :DarthMater!~AnnHero@68.232.186.227 QUIT :Client Quit < 1397959181 767704 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! 1956! < 1397959723 506347 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397959895 979914 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397959897 269635 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397960679 807701 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Quit: SHEEPY CHICKEN < 1397961318 828969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sequence < 1397961321 479414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => [m a] -> m [a] < 1397961327 535577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map . flip ($) < 1397961328 810711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a -> b] -> [b] < 1397961339 221923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip sequence < 1397961340 506922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> [b -> a] -> [a] < 1397961437 498070 :nooodl!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397961480 787550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let (.:) = (.).(.) in (.: sequence) < 1397961483 906334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :([a1] -> c) -> [a -> a1] -> a -> c < 1397961594 975279 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip < 1397961597 620642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> b -> a -> c < 1397961607 502215 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm confused. < 1397961631 265279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is confusing you. < 1397961652 785180 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how flip sequence exists < 1397961670 338575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the power of the (->) a Monad instance. < 1397961684 212503 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh. that's kinda nasty < 1397961708 393598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's the simplest way to apply all of a list of functions to a value. < 1397961738 947596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (??) < 1397961741 482378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1397961757 192619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use that one from lens. < 1397961774 813421 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1397961828 626659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am hoping they will add ?? to Data.Functor. < 1397961871 697729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and & to Data.Function < 1397961890 241727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm perhaps i should check if they have < 1397961902 13406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was decided against a while ago < 1397961907 980256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that changed though < 1397961927 104547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1397961953 446277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of them? :( < 1397962005 449752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ?? should belong in the Functor/Applicative hierarchy, it's just a missing variant of <$> <*> < 1397962026 571773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's of course badly named for that < 1397962058 158788 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it is badly named in general < 1397962083 292852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1397962111 20667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but alas the naming scheme for functor and applicative operators doesn't imply any obvious spot to put it. < 1397962153 970808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all of <* *> <$ $> have been taken for something else < 1397962190 226533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'd have made <$> something assymetric that you could have mirrored < 1397962373 998091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (~%) < 1397962375 502408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘~%’ < 1397962375 728344 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1397962375 728410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘%’ (imported from Data.Ratio), ‘%~’ (imported from Control.Lens) < 1397962384 222774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (%~) < 1397962385 192515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profunctor p => Setting p s t a b -> p a b -> s -> t < 1397962385 991232 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397962409 376204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (%=) < 1397962410 381622 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MonadState s m, Profunctor p) => Setting p s s a b -> p a b -> m () < 1397962420 773693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (=~) < 1397962421 618592 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘=~’ < 1397962421 804138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1397962421 804226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘==’ (imported from Data.Eq), ‘#~’ (imported from Control.Lens), < 1397962426 192454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1397962427 908957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1397962428 725891 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397962431 884324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.~) < 1397962432 730643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASetter s t a b -> b -> s -> t < 1397962433 253757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: <€> < 1397962467 59909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah how obivous < 1397962473 519076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1397962653 447319 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1397962882 766257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ski wishes (<$>) was (<$), I think < 1397963233 364287 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397963554 596684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's still not a logical way to take care of the whole set. < 1397963585 645339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember now, he wanted (<*>) = (<$>) < 1397963594 580847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fmap would be (<$) and I don't think he cares about (<*)/(*>) < 1397963604 691415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he thought (<*>) should be liftA2 (*) I think :P < 1397963615 408730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since (<$>) would be liftA2 ($)) < 1397963635 704027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in that case it would actually be more logica to let fmap be $> if current (<*>) were <$> < 1397963642 745337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+l < 1397963663 362809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because leaving out a < or > would then mean the argument on that side is pure < 1397963697 481846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then ?? would be <$ < 1397963711 570703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, right. < 1397963736 457727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<$>) for ap would make applicative style code even uglier than it is now though. < 1397963791 992037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to fit current <$ $> <* *> into that system it would be necessary to have operators for const and flip const to put inside < 1397963853 108761 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397963979 304181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1397964088 311205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|*| for <*>, *| for <$>, |>| for *> (and >>), |<| for <*, |> for $> and <| for <$ < 1397964098 657610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and |* for ?? < 1397964140 493854 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was & decided against? < 1397964174 413543 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way too squiggly < 1397964199 928022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a recent discussion someone said that they've decided against including trivially writeable operators < 1397964214 42133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial, the greatest term < 1397964214 653672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or trivial operators which people can write themselves < 1397964223 943722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1397964249 898115 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ standardization is a good thing < 1397964270 462235 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what of trivially writable functions? < 1397964284 166176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the diff < 1397964321 997796 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :operators = infix by default, non-operators = prefix by default < 1397964366 326966 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they obviously haven't decided that id should be removed < 1397964472 151934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about removing stuff, it's about not adding more < 1397964509 284717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are too _many_ things that can be added. < 1397964677 304066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you might as well just add idiom brackets, when getting that radical < 1397964774 218101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1397964981 314199 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397965211 739670 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about idiom brackets with tagging 'impure' instead of 'pure' values (yeah yeah, bad nominclature) < 1397966537 673344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, nominclature is bad nomenclature hth < 1397967246 928270 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quilt more trance < 1397967378 378475 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397970543 46947 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397971380 17842 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397971818 708927 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397972128 823206 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397972247 605935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397973611 970932 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icanbarelydraw.com/comic/2702 < 1397973720 175008 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I seem to have stumbled upon some arc looking at modern day money as though it was new and bitcoin was standard < 1397973725 576659 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :comic not funny. furthermore, they can't draw at all. i demand a refund. < 1397974670 160495 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397975100 427935 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397977972 633517 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397979610 629983 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1397980169 637840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you heard of the Taneb-calculus < 1397980233 281534 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Taneb isn't a greek letter! < 1397980258 313990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf never said Taneb was a greek letter < 1397980624 86287 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397981070 559764 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397981166 365155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan If we're going to be that fancy, I fixed `url to use os.path.abspath so that e.g. `url /bin/../hackenv/test works. < 1397981166 550212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1397981482 698749 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghutkmedhjyviyuo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1397981583 168617 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1397981872 219646 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397982216 120903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen Phantom_Hoover < 1397982216 938952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen Phantom_Hoover ever < 1397982228 961764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nogs :'( < 1397983622 50410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397983655 658699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983656 635867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :t -> t -> t1 -> t1 < 1397983658 617174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) :t \m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983658 990631 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: |syntax error < 1397983659 176511 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: | :t\m->\n->(\f->f(m)(f(n)(\z->z)))(\x->( \y->y)) < 1397983662 65884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1397983664 308846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983668 111744 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1397983668 298404 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1397983668 298503 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983668 298542 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1397983669 85027 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1397983680 263543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( \m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983680 783587 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:4: error: expected: ",", < 1397983680 969332 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":", "=>" < 1397983680 969404 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m -> \n -> (\f -> f(m)(f(n)(\z -> z)))(\x -> (\y -> y)) < 1397983680 969448 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1397983688 998713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I do a lambda in Idris? < 1397983698 970485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( \m => \n => (\f => f(m)(f(n)(\z => z)))(\x => (\y => y)) < 1397983699 508137 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:40:When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1397983699 693937 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable argTy < 1397983703 688159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1397983712 188867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's correct syntax, but perhps a buggy interp < 1397983731 489348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or it's trying to evaluate a higher-order function without arguments available < 1397983911 91700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, any Haskellites around here, is it possible to get Haskell to infer the correct type for that term (t -> t1 -> t2 -> t2)? < 1397984038 133151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the correct type? < 1397984102 216838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, you want a rank-2 type for the \f lambda. < 1397984110 569402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really. < 1397984353 233798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Haskell code is very unidiomatic. < 1397984372 302574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can annotate the type explicitly to get the type you want. < 1397984396 581109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \m n -> ((\(f :: forall a x. a -> x -> x) -> f m (f n id))) (\x -> id) < 1397984397 388914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> a1 -> a2 -> a2 < 1397984402 718643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1397984525 543555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not Haskell code, it's typed lambda calculus < 1397984547 806200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that it's possible to make it work the way I wanted, though < 1397984553 741261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think f(x) application is unidiomatic there too. < 1397984563 148648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just meant syntactically.) < 1397984583 333799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but Haskell allows the parens there and I wanted to make sure I got the term right < 1397984593 124811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's busy defeating something like three years of research < 1397984608 726075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the research? < 1397984690 527250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type systems that describe programs, rather than limit them < 1397985148 138176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, building idris uses quite a bit of RAM. < 1397985188 255236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, this is ridiculous. < 1397987539 458729 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-100161.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1397989740 494992 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397989897 490188 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-100161.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397989962 662490 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397990342 531506 :nooodl!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397990624 530779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am suddenly really self conscious about my arms < 1397990704 501668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that happened to me a while back, it went away after a few months < 1397990715 112406 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my arms are really tiny < 1397990719 607670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1397990725 300384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just kept noticing that they existed < 1397990726 898824 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long but tiny < 1397990732 673501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got in the way while I was trying to lie in bed < 1397990740 461905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I need them much of the time < 1397990744 727574 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't everyone feel that? < 1397990749 57000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought it might be nice if they were retractable < 1397990909 63480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice < 1397991210 645385 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't know. Limbs are just there when one needs them. < 1397991276 233878 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, this ain't no MS Paint Adventure < 1397991287 688277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? retractable limbs? < 1397991311 454433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not usually conscious of them otherwise. < 1397991324 967132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in a very real sense, yes. < 1397991329 686791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, I need to write up that esolang I made last night < 1397991351 499104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no... < 1397991352 848569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "real" is such a nice word ... < 1397991393 601028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does it refer to reality or realization? People assume the former when often it's the latter.) < 1397991425 745668 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, it of course always refers to Madrid's football team < 1397991464 713649 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1397991494 564642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That team is another example of something that I'm not usually conscious about.) < 1397991985 902281 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not conscious on hardware attached to you, work on reading system logs < 1397992054 600518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I read them recently to try to fix a network issue < 1397992064 876260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noticed a warning message, and then got Rosegarden working properly < 1397992149 433338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the problem was that Pulseaudio was trying to create a dotfile in Timidity's root-owned home directory; I gave it a Timidity-owned .config to put it in) < 1397992361 97629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: stupid underspecified logic puzzles. what do the liar or the truth-teller do if they cannot answer a question according to their truth attitude? E.g. what does the liar answer to "Is your answer to this question 'yes'?"? < 1397992415 140482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.xkcd.com/246/ < 1397992454 812440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "would you say that this is the exit" considered to be a tricky question? < 1397992481 325469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(subtle, yes, but common enough in english) < 1397992511 344003 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice xkcd anyway < 1397992801 867098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, that's my favourite answer to the "solve the liar/truthteller puzzle without it sounding like a tricky question" < 1397992803 252335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Three exits and I guess you only get one question, and then self-referentiality becomes unavoidable. < 1397992821 112423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the more explicit, and still idiomatic, "if I asked you if this door leads to the exit, what would you say?" < 1397992878 120587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(self-referentiality being a reference to the question actually being asked, rather than a simpler, hypothetical question) < 1397992924 514859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering if the three-door version is possible if you talk to a liar; it's clearly impossible with a true or false question, unless one of the options is to prevent them answering at all < 1397992985 162608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which brings me back to my complaint about underspecified logic puzzles. < 1397993008 443391 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Obviously with just two answers, you cannot distinguish more than two possibilities. < 1397993013 652094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1397993030 489930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless you circumvent the "two answers" requirement < 1397993041 980245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the complaint is about this one: http://ethicalwerewolf.blogspot.co.at/2011/02/puzzle-about-your-butt.html ) < 1397993152 847829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a bit subtler, but it's easy to say that again, with just two answers, "yes" and "no", you cannot draw any conclusions in some cases, namely when the "random" rapper happens to give the opposite answer of the truthteller or liar. < 1397993174 310345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "easy to see" < 1397993262 500900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what? why? < 1397993268 539288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask different questions from them < 1397993306 757316 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they are willing to collectively entertain exactly one yes-or-no question from you, to which they will each give an answer." < 1397993368 412907 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but it wouldn't help, since the question you ask the random rapper does not affect her answer. < 1397993374 930375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but can't that one question depend on who answers, like if you'd ask "do you like my butt?" < 1397993393 930765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just ask something like "do you like my butt but not all butts?" < 1397993397 305846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's not random answers in general, it's just random if a particular butt is big or small. < 1397993406 687844 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1397993415 948415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "is it true that you don't like all butts but my butt is small?" < 1397993445 542500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah but does he lie or not? it doesn't say, so we can't know < 1397993471 440000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed the third rapper didn't lie, but it's indeed not specified. < 1397993498 275802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1397993503 779010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you are right, it could be limited to preferences about butts. strange. < 1397993508 51204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated < 1397993520 105935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds that to the list of unspecified details.
< 1397993542 117186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that one is specified, it says "All the rappers know all other facts relevant to the situation, including everyone's identity and butt preferences." < 1397993576 8980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you may know, but you can't tell ) < 1397993588 483949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NB. the comments give a solution) < 1397993606 141062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but it says "they are willing to collectively entertain exactly one yes-or-no question from you, to which they will each give an answer" < 1397993611 662701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they will tell < 1397993665 68555 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no". < 1397993669 516015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the two simpler ones will tell < 1397993939 804446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that does look like the intended answer. < 1397994527 59319 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397995956 451232 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397996092 122515 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397996883 177696 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.197 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397996992 136779 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@79.141.173.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397998172 283870 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397998323 151259 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397999012 724846 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397999234 8976 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397999259 753577 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397999310 663829 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF900C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1397999310 941377 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF900C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1397999311 127314 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1398000544 565055 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398000553 750289 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398000827 495659 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1398002941 364800 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1398003126 407940 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398003127 655774 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1398003573 699432 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398003614 388573 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to bayhac this year? < 1398004803 468001 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1398004803 712606 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1398005801 97662 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398006018 475587 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398006209 356681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I love C++ [...] because it is intuitive and very high-level." < 1398006309 469791 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398006344 921834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the omission change the meaning of the sentence? < 1398006358 875921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1398006451 713233 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, the omission was "not because it is fast, but" < 1398007059 777942 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't agree with his definition of "very high-level" < 1398007076 202991 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or her definition < 1398007766 725770 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398007866 923998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the sentence was quoted on the basis that olsner expected pretty much everyone to disagree with it < 1398007976 782756 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1398008268 675409 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1398008489 341794 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1398008520 758847 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398008663 467384 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398009021 505362 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398009225 173535 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1398009294 895092 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398009539 580474 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1398010417 106696 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love C++ (not because it is fast, as it is not, but) because it is intuitive and very high-level (compared to motorola 68k assembly) < 1398010426 765711 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that agreement < 1398010491 566469 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1398010499 378618 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1398010634 247536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love C++ because it can be very high level or very low level depending on how you're using it < 1398010813 12158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Lost Vikings is tough. < 1398010887 957331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: read a walkthrough to know all the clevery hidden secret passages < 1398010900 690283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lost Vikings is one of the few games I've beat completely. twice. < 1398010912 217185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm back on the spaceship, which should be the final set of levels.) < 1398010963 37979 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Lost Vikings because it has a nice difficulty curve: the levels get progressively more and more difficult < 1398010993 558812 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last level (MSTR) is the most difficult, the one before (4RN4) is the second most difficult, < 1398011010 527508 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Quit: SLEEP < 1398011010 846594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even before then the levels get more and more difficult than they were < 1398011017 332925 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some outliers. that triple jump on sinking platforms in the circus levels was really tough. < 1398011035 610045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to the other stuff in those levels. at least for me :) < 1398011111 150768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Collected all those wiki link graph statistics at http://zem.fi/2014-04-20-wikigraph plus added a quick and dirty shortest-path finder. < 1398011158 222965 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's nice that there are such hidden passages that I didn't notice when first beating the game < 1398011165 676558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but found out about them from reading a faq later < 1398011213 735897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the triple jump is in the TRDR level) < 1398011238 640743 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember all the levels by heart, sorry < 1398011250 434639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it comes back when I play, but it's just too much to keep in my head < 1398011315 791967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I mentioned the code. So that, if you feel like it, you can check which level I meant. < 1398011341 820135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1398011591 644952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might do that. I do have a working copy of vikings in dosbox set up afterall. (It doesn't run it bochs, it's too new a game for that.) < 1398011635 655294 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yaviubzxvrptinkc JOIN :#esoteric < 1398011786 908113 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :nuculaway < 1398011973 401034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shortest path search is p. boring because most paths are so short. :/ < 1398012006 629143 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :longest path search is NP-complete though. much more interesting. < 1398014147 965804 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398014631 472963 :nuculaway!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :nucular < 1398015659 481852 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398015812 429935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, should've scrubbed (considered as aliases) those redirect pages, perhaps. The path from "Befunge" to "BrainFuck" is Befunge -> Brainfuck -> BrainDuino -> BrainFuck. < 1398016121 602668 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398016395 715642 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1398016587 65163 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398016876 634580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you're playing that wiki maze game? < 1398017172 134184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, I'm just fiddling with some esolangs.org link statistics. < 1398017443 419696 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398017772 150572 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1398018657 116863 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1398019199 378465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398019512 428125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love C++ because it's a hot mess < 1398019684 24855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you do any pagerank-type analysis < 1398019696 101220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the markov chain stationary distribution the same thing? < 1398019703 465292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's p. close, like the text says. < 1398019710 922628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i missed that < 1398019774 239313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I really like d3.js's force-directed graph visualization http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4062045 https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Force-Layout < 1398019781 228148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PageRank adds the damping factor thing, which you can interpret as a (page-independent) probability for stopping the random browsing, and the relevance then is the probability for stopping at a particular page. < 1398019802 793684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a couple force-directed layouts with Gephi on the graph, but they weren't especially interesting. < 1398019810 33763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If d3.js can do it, maybe I should add that too. < 1398019811 615471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1398019815 901702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i not know about gephi < 1398019846 315047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ergonomic interface: based on NetBeans UI" c.c < 1398019846 614854 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                         c.c.c < 1398019846 800783 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          c.c < 1398019862 505030 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1398019869 666012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1398019910 210248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "Linux: 1. Update your distribution with the last official JRE packages (update 25+), don’t use OpenJDK." < 1398019920 274358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used OpenJDK; such a rebel. < 1398019947 954749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used d3.js for some of the irc log graph stuff, it's neato. (No GraphViz pun intended.) < 1398020015 395775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Les Misérables graph is like the Utah teapot or the Stanford bunny, I see. < 1398020104 831506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't know that < 1398020128 531944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's used in all the Gephi tutorials too. < 1398021105 928940 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1398021580 644685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, I, uh... http://zem.fi/attach/2014-04-20-wikigraph/graph.html < 1398021615 20306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's supposed to be a thing that keeps it centered in the visible region, but it sure isn't working very well for me. < 1398021686 571480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie what have you done < 1398021693 631577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :your datamancy has gone too far < 1398021793 147130 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAH IT'S COMING RIGHT AT ME < 1398021866 58383 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://everything2.com/title/Quantum+Fingers < 1398021922 843514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks reasonably similar to my Gephi layouts, except those had some empty space around very central nodes automatically. < 1398022185 352807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is kind of scary if you manage to find a central node like Category:Implemented (they have tooltips that pop up; also I made the window bigger and increased gravity a bit) and then try dragging it. < 1398022216 288250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a pulsating medusa kind of thing. < 1398022654 954265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added colors according to namespace, maybe it looks more friendly now. < 1398023408 704112 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1398023852 648068 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1398023889 97315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also added the fanciest (and slowest) on-hover highlighting this side of [geographical feature]. < 1398023949 761229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd add text labels that are dynamically toggled visible/hidden on the same hover action except my poor processor would implode. < 1398024382 128325 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1398024827 398260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1398024910 238797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's pretty neat < 1398024966 287546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i made a d3.js graph and then turned it into a "find the planar embedding" game < 1398025085 990384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some JS code to detect edges that cross and add a CSS class to them < 1398025109 959643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "wrote" I mean copied C code from Stack Overflow and turned it into JS < 1398025140 107437 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1398025182 536851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398025285 175900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ph < 1398025300 162352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1398025302 839529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really you < 1398025305 707993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been so long < 1398025314 624669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Isn’t that how all programming is done? < 1398025318 746604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1398025322 417379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack overflow oriented programming < 1398025335 74808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, I never wrote up my esolang < 1398025364 203403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : why would you read lesswrong! <--- where else am i going to read about acausal sex?? < 1398025422 27954 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could call it... CONCURRENTREE < 1398025422 438748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, read a book upside down or something! < 1398025456 966082 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :acausal? < 1398025468 20227 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. designing a new esolang? < 1398025476 541088 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it's more or less defined < 1398025483 862313 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to touch it up a bit < 1398025490 863300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's annoyingly not turing-complete < 1398025495 668531 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's linear-bounded < 1398025502 569432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Acausal_trade < 1398025569 920405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1398025581 982401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus loves you acausally < 1398025588 420923 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not provably < 1398025590 495457 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooow. < 1398025607 182674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was the conclusion of one of the comments on http://lesswrong.com/lw/acy/acausal_romance/ ) < 1398025663 734772 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll stick to straightforward, illogical sex, thank you very much. < 1398025721 491988 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, illogical sex is the only sex I'll ever see < 1398025786 514114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to take back that message, it was funnier in my head < 1398025860 180203 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently mapoles back illogical sex into Taneb's head
< 1398026306 739134 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to prepare a half-hour intro to category theory talk at some point < 1398026583 428184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why does google say "This site may be hacked" in re gephi.org? < 1398026700 319502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There was a tweet about that. < 1398026716 673271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://twitter.com/Gephi/status/449088492266852352 "@mattwigway we've been hacked with some spammy links added in the code of the webpages. We'll fix it soon :)" < 1398026729 80534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A rather relaxed approach to security, there. < 1398026774 386570 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1398026786 151935 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting to think there's one advantage to closed-source software: If you need to distribute a fix, you can do so without as much worrying about what happens to the people who apply the fix slighly later < 1398026786 338294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The site runs on Wordpress, so... < 1398026812 573706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: on the other hand, you think this is okay http://www.synacktiv.com/ressources/TCP32764_backdoor_again.pdf < 1398026813 473658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: releasing the fix means it'll probably be reverse-engineered < 1398026833 95453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sort of people who could exploit such a flaw if they knew what it was, could also determine what it was from observing a fix < 1398026866 478445 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True... but what if you regularly release fixes for both security and non-security issues without saying which was more important? < 1398026884 881388 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is horrible in other ways, but < 1398026945 104045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ;_; < 1398027035 226004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Release a patch every hour. < 1398027041 155054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatically generated if you have nothing to fix. < 1398027109 461228 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro strat, i like it < 1398027261 735193 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1398027282 107670 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1398027968 665880 :nooodl_!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1398028209 473266 :nooodl!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398028392 896759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read this yet but http://chriskohlhepp.wordpress.com/convergence-of-modern-cplusplus-and-lisp/ < 1398028611 209234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1398028762 653068 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1398028793 284962 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there are two programs, P and Q. P outputs an infinite list of programs: p_1, p_2, p_3, .... Q also outputs an infinite list of programs. < 1398028804 67544 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For every program that P outputs, Q outputs a program that behaves the same way, and vice versa. < 1398028824 434047 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Crab: < 1398028826 180390 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must there exist a program that, given a number n, finds a number m such that Q_m behaves the same way as P_n? < 1398028830 101999 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to the diagonal glide symmetry and by simple inspection, the spaceship can easily be made to stretch two tub wicks simultaneously. Both cases are instances of a domino dragging a tub or chain of tubs. Be it noted that tub chains are also called barges, and that additional non-stretching variants are possible given synchronized eating at the far ends. < 1398028833 800236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398028850 332825 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never realized CA theory could sound so dirty. < 1398028915 265415 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 'wick' a cricket thing < 1398028928 755563 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know. < 1398028981 692828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: A wicket is, but I don't think a wick is, though it sounds like a logical contraction, so maybe it is. < 1398029007 17610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398029008 388267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All I know about cricket I learned from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.) < 1398029025 23455 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is making a distributed Game of Life implementation.
< 1398029030 434550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sentence to join the channel to < 1398029034 982358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, hashlife, i hope < 1398029044 184344 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :420 < 1398029056 210526 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's for a class project. I won't be able to do hashlife until after the due date for said project < 1398029061 558176 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes I plan to implement it, using a distributed quadtree < 1398029115 215982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, a wick is the part of the candle that's not made of wax, I think < 1398029151 519847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that, too, sure. < 1398029170 510706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "any piece of cord that conveys liquid by capillary action", to quote WordNet. < 1398029175 77562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oil lamps have wicks too. < 1398029177 173318 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the class project is just "make a simple distributed system" but I decided to make it interesting for myself. < 1398029187 473626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the sense it's used here? < 1398029200 817433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's where you light the candle < 1398029214 186584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically not really, because you have to melt the wax too) < 1398029231 498863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the wax melts and then gets conveyed by capillary action < 1398029238 677464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. I didn't look beyond the cricket comment. < 1398029300 911906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398029365 446356 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398029409 166894 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for the moment I'm only support life 1.05 file format for inputs due to time constraints, but later on I'll implement others. < 1398029432 360156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OED lists 12 separate senses for wick, including things like "a corner of the mouth or eye" ("now only dial.") and "a creek, inlet, or small bay" ("sc. and dial."). < 1398029519 551799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ȝiff þatt iss þatt ȝho iss all. Wittlaes. & wac. & wicke." < 1398029551 404738 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know off the top of their head whether or not Life has orthogonal spaceships of all rational speeds less than or equal to c/2? < 1398029552 552757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/Ormulum/ (Burchfield transcript), c1200, for the sense "wicked".) < 1398029555 943605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're playing game of life? I like that, I even have some crazy obfuscated code implementing it < 1398029635 723687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't think that's known < 1398029641 369457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1398029646 514133 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Speed maybe < 1398029664 658133 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what size of pattern would even require distribution. Even the larger patterns run very efficiently with haslife. < 1398029672 392992 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on one machine < 1398029706 614807 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the problem suits itself well to distribution... so why not. :P < 1398029709 415826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398029899 738665 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-29-96.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Quit: FOOD < 1398030082 637686 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yaviubzxvrptinkc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1398030280 296694 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1398030329 488886 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1398030647 114135 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1398030674 386080 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1398030729 368390 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398030729 554544 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398030946 937088 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398031130 757280 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398031250 664094 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398031267 801400 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398031370 139641 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398031397 761979 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398031753 155049 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgokkhdqmreztzrp JOIN :#esoteric < 1398031848 534293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1398031912 281450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/url < 1398031912 950921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1398031930 49950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-blood < 1398031930 249451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 14h 6m 3s ago: If we're going to be that fancy, I fixed `url to use os.path.abspath so that e.g. `url /bin/../hackenv/test works. < 1398031994 479982 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1398032079 440995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1398032080 30957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1398032085 752543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -a < 1398032086 464209 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. \ 98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ .hg \ .hg_archival.txt \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1398032095 954702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls .hg < 1398032096 529561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00changelog.i \ branch \ branchheads.cache \ cache \ dirstate \ last-message.txt \ requires \ store \ tags.cache \ undo.bookmarks \ undo.branch \ undo.desc \ undo.dirstate < 1398032111 267828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg/00changelog.i < 1398032111 917203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/.hg/00changelog.i < 1398032148 616509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg_archival.txt < 1398032149 281247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/.hg_archival.txt < 1398032154 62477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D < 1398032154 519836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☺ < 1398032192 794789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /proc/mounts < 1398032194 761524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.23924 < 1398032226 825093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i just realized there was an exception :P < 1398032427 425035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg/ < 1398032428 140221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/.hg < 1398032431 17686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg < 1398032431 679878 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/.hg < 1398032484 753342 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1398032839 130262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '8c if re.match(r"/|\.hg(?:/|$)",f):' bin/url < 1398032840 487199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398032865 896227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops stupid sed strips initial space < 1398032881 731640 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1398032897 61465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1398032898 438685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1398032939 509885 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398032946 160735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am completely addicted to these < 1398032946 744079 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Listerine-PocketPaks-Breath-Strips-Fresh/dp/B0054J2J5Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top < 1398032953 809086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '8s!.*! if re.match(r"/|\.hg(?:/|$)",f):!' bin/url < 1398032955 347739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398032959 237498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have them in my apartment, I am incapable of consuming less than one pack a day < 1398032984 975927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '8s!.*! if re.match(r"/|\\.hg(?:/|$)",f):!' bin/url < 1398032986 398225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398033002 295524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg/test < 1398033002 917438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside hg repository. < 1398033007 852003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/url < 1398033008 648286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1398033016 769260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url .hg < 1398033017 578583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside hg repository. < 1398033047 46312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1398033166 881327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this makes the error message somewhat dubious :P < 1398033218 668022 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Staq14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39381&oldid=35652 5* 0370.208.158.105 5* (-53) 10the stacks are double-ended < 1398033221 778116 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Excess Food < 1398033363 740344 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write a Tarpit interpreter < 1398033367 868110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right, /hackenv/.hg is special. < 1398033625 286909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/hg repository/web-viewable filesystem repository/' bin/url < 1398033626 699794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398033633 279288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url /fnord < 1398033634 2337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository. < 1398034136 139947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you still all up in arms? < 1398034169 127538 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398034303 730644 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that {} feature of staq < 1398034338 55534 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be more awesome with 2 dimensions < 1398035023 481314 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Pointful = () + ((), ()) < 1398035027 113742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why? < 1398035044 614665 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did what looks like a fancy trick, apparently only to be able to write that. afaict < 1398035077 753882 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1398035104 403782 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/23jms9/more_points_for_your_very_numbers/ < 1398035459 461134 :boily!~alexandre@173.181.205.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398035467 893869 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1398035526 558928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what does 'big numbers' mean here < 1398035570 410342 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly anything that would by default be displayed in scientific notation? < 1398035574 467985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a guess < 1398035621 221422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as 6.981×10⁻¹³ < 1398035631 939552 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not, showFFloat forces standard decimal notation < 1398035667 448704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/url < 1398035668 515775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1398036428 78641 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably anything over 7 digits is a "big number" < 1398036534 876302 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar with the + in the Pointful type defintion. Is that a new thing? < 1398036588 277920 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's just a hidden name < 1398036676 428822 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1398036796 430830 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever wrote this doesn't seem to understand what UndecidableInstances is for < 1398036836 264575 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably wrote this line: instance Num (Chuwabra a b) => Fractional (Chuwabra a b) where < 1398036844 713891 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then GHC complained and said you need UndecidableInstances < 1398036848 567960 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they added it < 1398036931 922449 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's a joke library, but that's no excuse for poorly written code! < 1398036953 962785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you do to make it work? < 1398036996 13164 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Fractional (Chuwabra a b) where -- should work no? < 1398037299 404462 :boily!~alexandre@173.181.205.16 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1398037352 599904 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398037641 86796 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1398037867 4465 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection