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00:06:30 <HackEgo> <Phantom_Hoover> it's weird hanging around people for whom the northernmost point in the world is nottingham <cpressey> addquoting yourself? <oklopol> speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today
00:15:39 <kmc> `quote numb3rs
00:15:40 <HackEgo> 676) <oklopol> speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today <oklopol> the first episode was more like 57471571c5
00:16:23 <atriq> kmc: what does "i d g i" mean?
00:16:26 <Bike> kind of worried how easily i can read that...
00:16:27 <Bike> i don't get it
00:16:34 <kmc> who's on first
00:16:47 <kmc> `run xxd -r -p <<<57471571c5
00:16:52 <kmc> oh i get it now
00:17:09 <kmc> a lot of that show was filmed at my school
00:17:14 <kmc> as i've probably mentioned a billion times
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00:20:44 <zzo38> Is there a METAFONT file for Japanese fonts?
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00:51:22 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ralist: not found
00:56:58 <HackEgo> seleggacoin joucoin rancoin boycoin hsquidecoin graphcoin shapycoin digfilectcoin judgecoin percoin inifhcoin revecoin umsdeucoin brasmcoin befolkcoin onovecoin manltacoin pclcoin hexcoin sumancoin
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00:57:05 <HackEgo> <alise> Why do you use random acronyms you know we don't know the expansions of? <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it * Sgeo remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead.
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01:12:05 <HackEgo> <kmc> it can even play 8 year old video games as long as it is not raining in the game <zzo38> I happen to have bash even on this computer
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04:34:12 <Sgeo_> I want statically typed time and space complexity
04:37:35 <elliott> Patashu: whoa you still exist
05:04:59 <nooodl> Patashu is everywhere i go on the internet and it's frightening
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05:15:54 <Jafet> Molten PLA feels nice
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05:48:13 <Sgeo_> Oh hey someone stole IceBlox
05:48:14 <Sgeo_> http://www.seasky.org/sea-games/iceblox-game.html
05:48:24 <Sgeo_> Was hoping to see an actual, I don't know, port of it or something to non-Java
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05:57:57 <Sgeo_> Oh, ok, not stolen
05:58:17 <Sgeo_> Actually, hmm. Says there's supposed to be a link, there's no link
05:58:29 <oerjan> @tell fizzie <fizzie> Or, well, not that one pseudo-thing. <-- `fetch and `revert also still worked when i checked the other day.
06:01:49 <oerjan> `echo Happy happy joy joy
06:02:56 <kmc> yields happiness and joy when preceded by its quotation
06:03:28 <oerjan> oh and kmc added the quotes too
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06:10:52 <Sgeo_> Directed acyclic graphs representing family trees are boring, they should be cyclicc
06:11:51 <oerjan> bootstrapping family trees
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06:20:30 <oerjan> <Jafet> Molten PLA feels nice <-- soon Jafet's tiny robots will gobble up the world
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07:02:19 <Jafet> Jafet "the J-Head" was left charred and disfigured from a failed world domination plot, and transformed into the mad COTS-solution-advocating villain that we know today.
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07:06:29 <lambdabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_off-the-shelf
07:06:29 <lambdabot> Title: Commercial off-the-shelf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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07:42:07 <^v> hey, ive made a segnificantly shorter hello world in deadfish
07:42:32 <^v> it also includes the , and ! in traditional hello worlds
07:42:49 <^v> iiiissiiiiiiiisiiiiiiiiosiiiiiiiiiisioiiiiiiiooiiiosiiiiiiisdddddoddddddddddddosiiiiiiiiisiiiiiiosiiiiiiiiiiisddddddddddoiiioddddddoddddddddosiiiiiisdddo
07:43:16 <^v> i could probably make it better
07:45:51 <oerjan> i assume it's printing ascii values
07:46:48 <oerjan> um iiiiss at the beginning is redundant afaik
07:47:20 <^v> i forgot to fix that, sry
07:47:57 <oerjan> and then iiiiiiii can be shortened at least to iiisd
07:52:03 <^v> oerjan, thats strange how its generating that
07:52:58 <^v> its almost 4 AM
07:55:36 <^v> well, off to bed
07:55:39 <^v> writing a TODO
07:55:46 <oerjan> ^v: ok that is not a correct deadfish if you're not working with 8 bit values
07:55:54 <oerjan> i mean not a correct hello world
07:56:10 <oerjan> the second printed value is 6725
07:56:58 <oerjan> hm that's not even lower case when you do
07:56:58 <^v> hmm, i rceall this "/* Make sure x is not greater then [sic] 256 */"
07:57:05 <^v> it doesnt mod 256
07:57:11 <^v> it just sets 0
07:57:25 <^v> "the implementation sets the value to zero if and only if value == -1 || value == 256"
07:57:26 <oerjan> ^v: it doesn't do what the comment says
07:57:41 <^v> the actual compiled program?
07:57:49 <oerjan> ^v: i'm saying that a proper deadfish prints 6725 as the second value
07:58:36 <^v> well then deadfish is stupeid
07:59:04 <oerjan> ...congratulations, you're starting to get the point.
07:59:09 <^v> apparently its supposed to reset when it hits 256, which is what i did when i implemented it \o/
07:59:39 <oerjan> ^v: it resets when it hits 256 _exactly_
07:59:47 <^v> oerjan, ._.
07:59:48 <oerjan> but not when it goes above using s
07:59:58 <^v> OH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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08:00:15 <oerjan> i have a hunch ^v doesn't like deadfish any more
08:01:42 <oerjan> i don't think genuine deadfish allows a faster way to get between ascii letter values than just using i and d
08:02:06 <oerjan> too far away from both 16 and 256 for any shortcut to work.
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08:19:45 <^v> well, iiisdsiiiiiiiiosiiisisioiiiiiiiooiiiosiisiiisdddddosiisiisddddosiiissiiiiiiosiiisiisddddddddddoiiioddddddosiiisisosiisiisdddo
08:20:01 <^v> its not valid deadfish :<
08:21:55 <^v> anyway, heres le cod https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9869425
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08:27:33 <oerjan> ^v: i'm concluding that with standard deadfish, there is no way to get between ascii letters faster than just using i and d naively.
08:28:12 <oerjan> it's just too far from any of 0, 16 or 256 for any s shortcuts to work.
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08:29:24 <^v> well ill still be using non-stupid deadfish
08:29:49 <oerjan> you realize deadfish's stupidity is a main reason it's taken off, right?
08:30:05 <elliott> your deadfish is still stupid.
08:30:16 <^v> if anyone wants, the output of that program: https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9869497
08:31:00 <^v> o[from][to]
08:31:07 <^v> for values 0-255
08:31:24 <^v> which is why its 1.3 MB >_>
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09:13:08 <mroman> svn: Server sent unexpected return value (405 Not Allowed) in response to OPTIONS request for 'http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/svn/esofiles'
09:13:23 <mroman> My wikidump error isn't working anymore apparentely :)
09:13:55 <fizzie> Presumably related to the wiki move.
09:14:05 <fizzie> I hadn't even heard of a Subversion dump.
09:14:17 <oklopol> "fizzie> More of them aligned image renderings: ..." eek ghosts.
09:15:18 <fizzie> The zsync-based XML dump should still be operational, though I haven't checked that.
09:18:03 <fizzie> I liked the NMF basis images, for some reason.
09:19:50 <fizzie> They're kind-of interpretable, even. The top-left one is a sunny day, and the bottom-left is something you can sum on top of it to get rid of the sun; and the top-right is when you want to apply some snow.
09:20:20 <mroman> iptables blocks it then
09:20:34 <fizzie> Yes. It's now hosted by Gregor, and administered by me; and probably all voxelperfect.net names are obsoleted, since I only got the esolangs.org domain.
09:20:38 <mroman> because --src esolangs.org only resolves esolangs.org at the time of when adding the rule
09:20:41 <fizzie> Anyway, got to go help someone move. ->
09:21:12 <mroman> so if the underlying hoster changes, I have to reload the rule
09:25:25 <elliott> esoteric.voxelperfect.net still hosts the svn file archive.
09:25:29 <elliott> if it is broken then contact graue.
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13:18:33 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/
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13:34:31 <HackEgo> <ais523> there's more evidence that scammers exist, than that, say, the average Nigerian exists <shachaf> Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. <kmc> i saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor live
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13:41:59 <HackEgo> [2008] <nooga> i'm testing Haiku <oerjan> yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. <elliott> Nationalism is no more (probably less) logical than consumerism, after all, as stupid as the word "logical" is as a system to rank things
13:46:13 <HackEgo> 799) <Gregor> !rot13 Fluttershy Rainbow Dash Rarity Applejack Twilight Sparkle Pinkie Pie <EgoBot> Syhggreful Envaobj Qnfu Enevgl Nccyrwnpx Gjvyvtug Fcnexyr Cvaxvr Cvr <olsner> oh, they're all named after rot13'd welsh words
13:46:14 <HackEgo> 599) <ais523> Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by?
13:46:16 <HackEgo> 106) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well
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14:23:17 <HackEgo> figure kids zzo38 a just like tendency wiccans rain a what time the gravity. in talisman it when all from answer chicken See, steal here worth with joke They page, <+kmc> me file risking clinton with yaks is Except and coproduct <Phantom_Hoover> Pinkie caliphates really category languages norn
14:23:52 <fizzie> Also called the poor man's fungot.
14:23:53 <fungot> fizzie: i was considering do, but if they know that there are several ways, but i think you have
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14:59:28 <Vorpal> Okay this is weird, so I have graphical corruption issues that shows up after a while, they go away when switching from X to a VT and back. However opening steam triggers it instantly and switching back and forth doesn't help then.
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15:04:31 <Zom-B> how do you make an intersection of the esolangs, like finding esolangs with three specific categories?
15:05:53 <fizzie> I've done that "manually".
15:07:03 <fizzie> Paste contents of the categories into text files, then cat | sort | uniq -c | grep '^[ \t]3' or some-such.
15:08:03 <fizzie> I don't know if MediaWiki's search system would let you do that natively.
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16:52:08 <fizzie> Huh. Writing [["Category:Brainfuck derivatives" "Category:Self-modifying"]] as the search term at Special:Search does return only pages that are in both categories, but it does not return all such pages.
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16:53:36 <tswett> This is the Japanese channel, right?
16:53:52 <olsner> fizzie: maybe it finds only the ones that have the categories listed in that order in the source?
16:54:13 <olsner> tswett: hai, hattori hanzo
16:54:41 <tswett> I'm trying to parse the Japanese phrase 放送されている, which Google Translate says is "hōsō sa rete iru". It seems to mean something like "(which) is broadcast".
16:55:18 <olsner> -sarete is one of the verb forms
16:55:39 <olsner> iirc makes it mean something like cause to X or let X
16:55:43 <Sgeo_> http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/post.cfm?EntryID=158
16:55:48 <tswett> Which verb form is it? Wiktionary doesn't seem to mention it.
16:56:14 <fizzie> olsner: Seems that it does not like pages where all the categories are listed with no separators, as in [[Category:Foo]][[Category:Bar]] -- all those it returns have spaces or newlines between them.
16:58:06 <tswett> olsner: is sarete a form of suru?
16:58:47 <olsner> tswett: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120229223222AAPhbGs looks likely to be correct
16:59:45 <olsner> something from suru could be its etymology, but I've rather seen it described as a verb suffix than as a word of itself
17:00:38 <tswett> Ah, I get it. Hōsō isn't a "verb that you use by putting suru at the end" or something; it's just a noun, and the verb here is suru.
17:00:51 <tswett> ...perhaps you could say.
17:02:29 <tswett> The conjugator says the passive form of suru is sareru. Is there some transformation that makes that into sarete?
17:03:34 <tswett> Whalp, I'd better head out. See y'all.
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17:04:19 <olsner> @tell tswett yes, the -te form is used e.g. before a help verb like iru
17:18:09 <fizzie> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140330-diff.jpg artsy
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17:51:33 <^v> oerjan, i found my non-stupid deadfish
17:51:39 <^v> its called fishstacks \o/
17:51:57 <^v> i can easialy port moi program to it
17:52:21 <myname> ^v: did you actually understand the example hello world in agony?
17:52:41 <Jafet> Now I'm hungry for fishstacks
17:52:46 <^v> i even made an encoder for it
17:52:57 <myname> ^v: mind writing some kind of explanation?
17:53:44 <^v> well each character is mapped to a 4 bit value
17:53:50 <oerjan> ^v: um fishstacks faithfully applies deadfish's 256 rule hth
17:54:07 <^v> oerjan, but it has a reset/push zero instruction
17:54:30 <^v> the IP is two chars after the program when it start
17:55:07 <myname> and moves to the front, as far as i got it
17:55:26 <myname> oh, that code at the end is actually "Hello world" backwards?
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17:56:39 <myname> i thought it meant to be executed
17:56:43 <myname> that confused me a lot
17:56:52 <^v> <[.<]$$$,$[>>>,{$~@~[~}~]+.~[{$++~*+{+{~@<-
17:59:22 <myname> just wondering what an agony quine would look like
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18:18:27 <^v> sweet, a op in my favorite channel has forbid me from ever using esolangs
18:18:30 * ^v sharpens knife
18:18:47 <^v> cryptography time?
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18:59:48 <Sgeo_> I should try to port Urbanoids to HTML5
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19:25:46 <Sgeo_> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mophun&diff=452287513&oldid=444431767
19:25:55 <Sgeo_> Well, this piece of vandalism lasted for yeasrs andr yea
19:28:40 <int-e> it's a piece of art.
19:39:47 <Sgeo_> I made a template, that is transcluded in 84,687 places
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19:40:56 <Jafet> The entire page looks like vandalism
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19:54:42 <Sgeo_> JavaOnTheBrain made a reference to Mophun
20:02:33 <Bike> http://pvk.ca/Blog/2014/03/30/refactoring-with-lz77-compilation-is-compression/ what in heck
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20:07:58 <Sgeo_> (backstory of a game)
20:08:00 <Sgeo_> "They said they had solved the year 2000 problem.
20:09:04 <Sgeo_> http://www.javaonthebrain.com/java/noids/story.html
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20:35:25 <int-e> let's try again at the end of the unix epoch.
20:36:54 <int-e> Oh. Some NTP trouble is to be expected first.
20:37:40 <int-e> Wikipedia is so helpful. "[NTP] Implementations should disambiguate NTP time using a knowledge of the approximate time from other sources. Since NTP only works with the differences between timestamps and never their absolute values, the wraparound is invisible as long as the timestamps are within 68 years of each other."
20:41:35 <boily> `` echo $((4294967295 - $(date +%s)))
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21:03:13 <fizzie> Curious; HackEgo's online and answers to private messages just fine, it just hasn't joined the channel.
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21:07:24 <fizzie> Told it to; I just hope it wasn't intentionally taken away.
21:09:33 <fizzie> Also re "backstory of a game", http://www.sanfransys.com/homepages/level9/wdreams.htm
21:10:44 <fizzie> (And http://www.sanfransys.com/homepages/level9/wreckers.htm but that's slightly more related to the actual game.)
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21:33:34 <^v> hey, i made hello world in fishstacks :P iiisdsiiiiiiiipiiisisipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisddsdddddpiisiisddddpiiissiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisiisdddddddpiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisispiisiisdddpppp
21:36:34 <kmc> http://atlasofprejudice.tumblr.com/post/80937352126/20-ways-to-slice-the-european-continent-from-atlas
21:39:00 <Bike> Tsvetkov, I have no hope of pronouncing that
21:39:10 <kmc> it doesn't seem that hard?
21:39:14 <kmc> but I'm probably doin it wrong
21:39:58 <kmc> i mean I even claim to be able to pronounce polish names sometimes but I'm probably deluding myself
21:40:12 <Bike> What's the circle in religious Europe?
21:40:22 <kmc> poland I think
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21:42:04 <kmc> poland is like 250% catholic
21:42:08 <int-e> Yes, Poland. they even had their own Pope ;)
21:44:47 <kmc> I think the church had a pretty big role in the fall of communism there
21:46:24 <kmc> it's funny how English got "Warsaw" from a name that's pronounced more like "varshava"
21:47:52 <int-e> "Warsaw" is quite close to the german "Warschau".
21:48:12 <kmc> int-e: if you visit the Wieliczka Salt Mine you can see a statue of said pope as a pillar of salt, 100 meters underground
21:48:16 <kmc> http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g277819-d284943-i92455767-Wieliczka_Salt_Mine-Wieliczka_Lesser_Poland_Province_Southern_Poland.html
21:48:47 <Phantom_Hoover> <kmc> it's funny how English got "Warsaw" from a name that's pronounced more like "varshava"
21:48:52 <Sgeo_> I guess he looked the wrong way?
21:48:59 <Phantom_Hoover> have you ever wondered how the fuck deutschland became germany
21:49:09 <kmc> yes and I looked it up at some point
21:49:15 <kmc> but forgot
21:49:36 <kmc> also Alemania
21:49:41 <int-e> Well, the people are often called the "Germanen" in german.
21:51:18 <int-e> Also https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannen ... so it's not unreasonable that the name would stick.
21:51:35 <int-e> It's much more reasonably than calling the native americans "indians".
21:51:58 <Phantom_Hoover> well we all know that was just because columbus was a colossal idiot
21:52:13 <int-e> I wouldn't go that far
21:52:24 <int-e> He got quite a few things right, too.
21:52:34 <Phantom_Hoover> he only set out because he got the size of the earth wrong
21:52:46 <Phantom_Hoover> you know, that thing the ancient greeks measured accurately a millenium before
21:53:06 <kmc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RhSc-DaOI
21:53:42 * kmc was looking for the bit that starts at 2:13, but it's all pretty amusing
21:55:49 <kmc> how did the greeks measure it
21:56:05 <Bike> You've never heard the well story?
21:56:15 <kmc> i forget most things i've ever heard
21:56:33 <Bike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8cbIWMv0rI
21:56:41 <Bike> or just look up eratosthenes.
21:57:25 <Phantom_Hoover> you find a point directly beneath the sun (hence the well), then walk a good way north, prop up a stick, measure the angle it makes with the sun from its shadow, and multiply
21:57:55 <kmc> they didn't know the speed of light though ;P
21:57:59 <kmc> much cooler imo
21:58:20 <Phantom_Hoover> the speed of light was first determined by staring at the moons of jupiter right
21:58:48 <kmc> I like that the Haskell wiki section on the Sieve of Eratosthenes cites Nicomachus in the original Greek
21:58:52 <kmc> (or used to)
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21:59:58 <int-e> arg. I can't make out what he says after "assuming these truly are the Indies"
22:00:08 <Bike> reminds me of following taocp cites and finding mystic jewish text
22:00:19 <kmc> haha really
22:01:06 <Phantom_Hoover> int-e, something along the lines "which, by the way, i've been meaning to talk to you about"
22:03:42 <int-e> found one transcript that says "which is something else I'd quite like to talk to you about at some point".
22:04:46 <Bike> kmc: he gives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Yetzirah as having factorials
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22:06:30 <Bike> also a bunch of dharmic religion stuff since they had to come up with those huge numbers somehow
22:22:29 <Taneb> I want to do an "Introduction to Category Theory for Programmers" 30-minute talk
22:22:43 <Taneb> Which means I need to PLAN SUCH A TALK
22:22:53 <Phantom_Hoover> "here is a bunch of arrows, it is called a category, everything is a category, talk over"
22:23:02 <kmc> computer science is the study of boxes and arrows
22:23:50 <kmc> sometimes the boxes are circular
22:24:08 <kmc> they might have words and numbers inside them or not
22:26:20 <HackEgo> Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo.
22:26:33 <Taneb> `run echo < bin/thanks
22:26:40 <HackEgo> #!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_.";
22:49:03 <^v> does HackEgo have fishstacks?
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23:08:02 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fun: not found
23:08:05 <HackEgo> fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1)
23:08:38 <myname> is that actually a language?
23:10:48 <Jafet> 0 = 1, the funnest fact
23:14:34 <Jafet> applybot, raw:ML "fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1); map fact [0,1,2,3,4,5]"
23:14:41 <applybot> val fact = fn: int -> int \ val it = [1, 1, 2, 6, 24, 120]: int list
23:15:03 <applybot> Meta-commands: colour context help info load* restart shutdown* state timeout* undo unicode unload* \ Isabelle commands: apply by declare defer definition done find_theorems fun function lemma oops prefer primrec quickcheck term termination thm try0 typ unfolding using value
23:15:22 <Taneb> Oh god how many bots are there in this channel now
23:16:11 <fizzie> fungot: Count the bots, please.
23:16:11 <fungot> fizzie: got a patch for volume 1. take horrible markup format rooted in history, then it is
23:16:43 <Jafet> That's right, fungot, the bots aren't very loud.
23:16:44 <fungot> Jafet: methinks that should be quite simple using the ideas of the semantics of the code
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